Episode 376

January 20, 20250 comments♥ 0
00:09That's right. Hello again, friends. The great Brian last here. What show is this? Hello again, friends. That's how we usually begin it. Welcome to another edition of Jim Coronet's Drive-Thru. Another action-packed edition with reviews, questions, fun, hijinks, files, and so much more. With this man, he's in a great mood today. Let's keep that spirit going. Mr. Great Mood himself, the leader of the cult of Cornette, Mr. Jim.You know, the problem is, Brian, is that this, you're the leader on this program.And if that introduction gives the people any indication of where it might be going and maybe,I'm telling you, I'm, I'm just, I got to be silly today.I got to, I got to be silly and have the jocularity flowing to overcome the, I'm getting,it's not cabin fever.I've been out.unfortunately have been out more than I wanted to be but you know that it is Sunday the 6th so it's been
01:1712 days now or so that Louisville Kentucky and its surrounding environs have been covered in snow andice now yes they've cleared not all of the roads I mean there's people out in aand not only in the suburb suburban suburbs but also out in a countryas we say down here, that the only snowplow they may have seen is their own,but people are out and about and commerce and activity is going on,but the ground is covered and they're still in the parking lots,five, six foot high mounds of snow that they've scooped up and got out of the way of everythingexcept the turning lanes.
02:01So the parking lots are like goddamn bobsled runs.the fucking maniacsbut it's depressingand now it's going to be above 40 degreesfor a couple of daysmiraculouslyit's the first time it's been above freezing since it happenedand then we're going to get rain
02:20so that should hopefully melt awaymost of thethe slush and everythingand then the cold is going to come againand the wind chill like Monday and Tuesday is going to be10, 15 below zeroso it's going to be like askating rink. But it depresses me
02:40when we're covered in, how do the people inwhat is it, what to fuck Alaskaor up in the upperreaches of the provinces of Canadawhere they got snow like fucking what, six months out of the year?How do people not go out of their minds?They go out of their minds. That's why they move to Tampa and becomewrestlers.
03:04Well, you got me there.But I'm not even talking about the specific Canadians that we all know and love,but just general people.It just,isn't it depressed when you just go out and it's cold and it's slushy?You can't sit on anything.It's all wet and it's icy and it's disgusting.And you'd be broke and drunk and a gutter.
03:26You can't sit on anything like what?What are you talking about?Well, if I want to go out and sit in the backyard,you're still fucking ice or shit all over my goddamn furniture.You want to sit that bed.My yard furniture.If you want to sit that bed, we just get some waterproof pants.Well, I'm wearing those underneath my sweatpants, but that's for a different fucking
03:46complaint I have that we won't go into now when we're talking about the weather.What does that even mean?What complaint is that?Take it as you like.But anyway, I just, I hate it.And the other, yesterday it was when the sun started finally perpetrating through all the shit on my roof,and it sounded like a goddamn Santa's sleigh and all the reindeer had landed on my roofwhen an iceberg slid off out into the hinterlands.
04:15And shit like that, as we slowly fucking defrost from this goddamn eagle,I feel like a Swanson frozen dinner.Remember those kids?No, the kids don't, but we do, kids.I always like the seafood.Were you a fan of TV dinners?Oh, my God.when I was a kid anything you could eat out of aluminum
04:38was a big fucking dealand I got hot whenat whatever point they switched from the aluminum traysit looked like you were actually beingat least served a meal in prison or somethingto the goddamn thispansy ass fucking plastic they got nowif you try to put it under the broiler
04:58or get a little singe on a top of your frozen goodiesit'll melt and fucking give you cancertumors. Well, either way, they now say that anything we have with plastic water bottles, anythingthat food has served in, all of it, there are tiny little particles of plastic that areentering our bodies and that we have more plastic in us right now than obviously ever before,and we don't know really how that affects the brain and everything else.Is that why that I've been able recently to extend my arms at least a foot longer than theynormally used to be? I didn't mean it would give you the qualities of the classic plastic.
05:34or anything.But here's another question for you.One of the least heralded superheroes, plastic man.Well, yes, but why did they call him plastic man?Because he could stretch and bend into all kinds of shapes when you can't do that with plastic.You'll break that shit in a fucking second.What should his name have been?Rubber man.
05:54Do they think the kids would confuse him with a condom?See, but it doesn't add up.That's why he was unheralded.I guess so.Because even the kids said, well, fuck all this shit, we got plastic, it breaks in a fucking heartbeat.Why is this guy so fucking stretchy?Like, even on like super friends as a kid, when you'd see him, like, teaming up with a Superman to solve a crime or to do something.Like, man, that's a weird partner for Superman to have.
06:19Plastic man, just doing his own thing.He could go where he wants to go and do what he wants to do because he's plastic man.He can assimilate any shape or I bet he's been in some interesting places.But you like the TV dinners in the aluminum?Oh, that's what we were talking about.Yeah, in the aluminum, I enjoy the television dinners.It, you know, gave an air of fucking class to the proceedings when your tray was all shiny.Was Mama Cornette cool with you eating while, like in front of the TV, not at the table or anything?
06:52Well, no, the TV dinner was, you know, not an everyday thing.That's another thing when you're a kid.It's a special occasion thing.We're like, you know, early on when I was.very little in my mom and dad would go to dinner, I'd get one with the babysitter or whatever.Or then later, when we were coming back from fucking wrestling shows late at night,and I popped this in the oven, that type of thing.I wasn't a kid then, but I still liked them.
07:23But it was every once in a while.Were you eating habits what they were before you were a manager, but you were alreadylike, you know, you were already in the business.You were a photographer going to multiple shows and doing multiple shows.Oh, yes.shows. Were you eating habits the same or once you were on the road did they change?No, just the volume.But the things, no, I've always been a cheeseburger for that.
07:42The only fast food restaurant, if you call it that, when I was a kid in our littlesuburban neighborhood was Jerry's restaurant.It was Jerry's drive-in and you actually drove up and they hung the speaker on the dealand you orderedand they brought it to youand they hung it on the tray on the side or whateverit never broke the window out like it did in happy daysI don't know what they were doing
08:10and you get eaten in a carwell that was just just swellright I'm five years so that was the thingI was a Jerry's Jay Boy fanaticwhich was the friscious big boy of thisapparently fuckingrival potentiallya plagiarous chain
08:28of Jerry's Jay boys aroundtown. But so I always like the cheeseburgers. I just had access to them on a daily basiswhen I started traveling and fucking passing by goddamn burger joints. Why are you always sofascinated with my goddamn eating habits? And now Jay Boys is an annual New Japan tournament.No, I was just curious. I was thinking about it just in terms of talking about the TVdinners and everything. You know, again, you were kind of on the road already, although it was notnecessarily as strenuous a schedule.I was just wondering in terms of what you would actually eat when you got home, if that changed.
09:05Well, and also, when we started going to Evansville, Indiana, every Wednesday night,I was a summer of 79.My mom took over selling the merchandise such as it was at Evansville.They only needed one person.But I was not only taking pictures there, but that's where I would probablyget the guys because they were bored out of theirfucking minds in a locker room in Evansvilleto do interviews
09:33on cassette tape on a fucking tape recorder to give toteeny for the spot shows.They'd send them to the radio station.They playedin Russell Springs, Kentucky, they wouldplay an audio cassette recorded on a taperecorder by a fucking 17 year old kidtalking to a fucking wrestler for 60 seconds.
09:52If it benefited the fucking JCs or the boosterclub. SoI'd do that and sometimes I'd fill in ring and ounce way and thenwhen everybody started getting music I would use the same recorder to plug into thePA system and I was in charge of playing the music so I would be up there ready I'd playthe fucking music I'd shut the thing off I'd run down I'd take pictures at ringsideand then I'd go and repeat the processes where was I going with that oh so we would go tothe rockabar in Evansville the original location I understand is no longer
10:27there, what it looked like in1979, I wouldn't have bet it had beenthere in 87, but itlasted until just a few years ago, apparently.The neighborhood mightnot have been, you know,equally as tastyas the pizza by the time they closed.
10:44But we would go therebecause they were the only thing reallyopen in Evansville, Indiana, thatwasn't out of the way ofteeny and whoever her driver wasgoing to Nashville and us coming backto Louisville, or potentially they were coming backwith us because we were going to Lexington.
10:59But we would stop at the Rockabarand they knew we were comingso the nice old Italian couplewould keep it open a coupleextra minutes because they knew we were going to eatlike we were going to the chair.And occasionally some of the boyswould go over also just to get something
11:14if they were headed back to Louisville or whatever.And then I got smart to the factthat not only was the pizza fucking incredibleand the guy ground his ownsausage and madethe little balls and he cut it in the square pieces but somehow theyartistically arranged it so there was a sausage ball on every fucking squareand boom and they made the dough by hand and I don't know he may have put his own
11:43piss into the goddamn mix to make it special I don't know what the fuck they didbut I let I'm sure this this guy in 1979 was probably 70 years old soI'm not saying it's the same these daysdays. But whatever he did was a great pizza and he would pre-cook these pizzas for you if you wantedto take them home and you could put them in the oven and heat them up a little bit all the way oryou could freeze them and then pop them in the oven for like 15 minutes or whatever and boomgoes to dynamite. And I started getting about three of those bad boys to bring home. He'd wrapthem in aluminum foil and I put them in a freezer
12:27that way for the next week if I was outafter a show and we got back latewhatever I would popthe rock a bar pizza any of itso that's why I did put onabout 10 or 12 pounds in a couple of yearsbefore I started managingwas from eating
12:42rock a bar pizza four nights a weekdid that answer your questionand so much moreand so much moreI'm sorry I don't mean to digressabout these things but speaking ofwhich, what's the last show we did the experience?My show.
13:00I told the people I'd been to the doctor,and apparently there was nothing wrong with me,and I was, you know, catching up or checking off the list of my vaccinationsand scans and fucking probes and anything it needs to be done to me,and I got the results of my blood test back,and I've got bad news for some people,and that there's still nothing fucking wrong with me.there's one thing
13:27that I've foundyou know back in theback in the old daysyou know when they still were using leechesand things like that in modern medicinethe doctor used to come in and you'd piss in a cupand they'd take your blood and then you'd go backsometime later and they would have got the results
13:49and he'd sit there with a fucking piece of paperand he'd say okay well you're goddamn you're about to have a strokeor your fucking left kidneys up your assand needs to be removed or whatever the fuck.But now they send you the results of your blood teston the internet with graphics,with like pie charts and fucking level meters and shit.It's amazing.
14:17And they have analyzed your blood right down to the fucking nuband it's like if you're,I can't remember what the color was.Well, I say yellow if you're low and green if you're fucking good and red if you're high, right?And I was all green, baby, except for the one thing.And actually, I tell a lie, I think then you're yellow if you're a little high and then you're red if you're dead.But the only good red is a dead red.Isn't that what they used to say?
14:48Tommy Cornett's back, I see.Well, nevertheless.The point is, I got to.cut down on the cake.I got to cut down on the cake,the cake and the Reese's.Because every single categoryI was
15:03guns blazing,green light ahead, ready to goand then it's like, no, yeah,about six fucking points higher.I don't know, they used to call it blood sugarback in my day. But now there'sa glucose and a bun and all theseother things, but on this reading,
15:22I need to drop about12 points or whatever the fuck it is.So I'm cutting down on the cake and the Reese's.You know where the money is?You've got to write a book, The Cheeseburger and Sprite Diet,My Keto, Long Life.Well, I...No one's ever written that book and you keep getting these results
15:42and you're in better shape than you've ever beennow that you're not on the road.I've started trying to, you know,not just binge and gorge and flummocks aroundand just, you know, wallow in feed bags for the past number of years.But at the same time, the complete crap that I ate for so many years should have played a part in something.But so far it has, it is not.And I'm pooping well, I'll have you know.
16:12No complaints with the poop.And that's a big part.You know, if you got complaints with the poop, that's a sign of bad things to come, Brian.Have you ever complained about your poop?No, I'm good, but that's what Austin Idol used to always say a lot.He used to always talk about fiber.Watch your poop.You want it to be mush.
16:32You just, if it's mush, you're healthy.If it's mush, you're good.And you know what, Dunn, Donovan, you know what Ronnie Garvin used to say.He said people, when he's at the gym, people would say, oh, you know, how do I, the accent,how do I lose weight?And Ronnie'd say, well, how many times a day do you eat?three how many times day he a shit once reverse the procedure you know there aren't a lot ofCanadians that have a natural tough guy accent ronnie garvin everything he said he sounded like it was
17:06like almost standoffish yes and and you know not only with the accent but the expression onhis face and then you'd watch him in the ring and you'd go fuck i'll just be over here i don'tpiss him it was scary to work with him and i knew he was working with mebut goddaywhen he made his comeback in Charlottehe's already I've thrown powdered his eyeshe's already gotten juice for me for the nucksso he's bleeding
17:32and we're inside a cageand finally he jerks me down off the cageand he gets on top of meand he's standing over meand he's going to throw the fucking hands of stonedown to the forehead rightand as I looked at the look on his faceI swear to God that must have been
17:48what Jack the Ripper looked likewhen he was about to dive inon fuckingit was like,God damn it,I'm scared.And boom,he threw three of them.
17:58I never felt any of the three of themand he snatched me around the neckthrottling me with the intent to killand I never felt that.And then the referee counted threeand the doors openedand the boys came in to save me.But he was very believable,
18:13very convincing.Which Ronnie Garvin do you prefer?Ronnie Garvin with kind of the floppy hairor Ronnie Garvin with the flat top?You know actuallyRonnie fromwhat was in1983 maybe
18:27in Georgia that period of timethrough the end of thecrockett yearswas the closest thingto the real Ronnie Garvin because hedroppedthe gimmick he'd had in the 70s as a heeland then in
18:43southeastern he kind of lookedsometimes like a fucking hippie and he haddark hairbut a hippie and turvey dressinga fucking tie-died t-shirtand jeans, whatever the fuck.But Ronnie Garvin of that 80speriod when he was
18:58just working out in the gym and going in the ringand stretching job guysand having those physical matches with flareand working that style,that was the clothes, the hands of stone,the whole nine yards.He was an incredible workerto make you believe
19:16two guys were having a,fucking struggle. And those matches with flare, even in a TBS studio, where it sounds like rifleshots when they're smacking each other. And just the, it looks like you're trying to gougeeach other's eyeballs out like this fucking match has gotten out of hand type of thing. People haveoverlooked that because it's not as celebrated as some of the other stuff. It's not just Flair.The other day after we heard about black bar and I went to look for some black bar footagejust to, for the first time in a while, watch some. And it was him against Ryan Garvin at theTBS TVS TV.
19:48Ronnie Garvin slappinga shit out of him.Just bam!Bam!Bam!And, you know,and that's the thingis that the people
19:57believed in him somewhatand he believedin a lot of that too.And he and Orndorffand Spokyvout Wrestlinghad great in-ringphysical matchesbecause the Orndorff liked
20:10that shit also.But they knew how to work tooand blah, blah.Anyway, I like thatbecause it was morenatural but I meanremember he wasyou know really bleach blonde
20:23with Ron and TerryGarvin with manager Jim Garvinthere's Terry in a goddamn negligeeand Jimmy Garvin is dressed in likeyou knowlike a skinny Oliver Humperdink because he's just happyto be there he's 18 years old and there'sRonnie probably
20:41one of the toughest guys in any locker roomand he's got the combed overlong blonde hair and wearing a fuckingpurple jacket. It just, it didn't, didn't fit. When he finally blossomed as a single, I thinkthat was the best Ronnie. When I first became a fan in 1989, one of the first feuds, in the middleof all the big things like Ultimate Warrior v. the Heenan family and Hogan versus Savage andZeus, Ron Garvin, rugged Ronnie Garvin versus Greg the Hammer Valentine. You know, which isinteresting. When you think about like 1989,
21:151990 WWF,those gimmicks, you never think about thosetwo, but they had a program where alla sudden on TV, they had a match.I think it went like this. They had a match.For no good reason, Chavani was at ringside.Because they were trying to find a way to use them on the shows.And he interviewed Greg Valentine. He challenged Ronnie Garvin
21:33to a loser leaves town match. A loser must retirematch. Ronnie Garvin loses. They makehim a referee, a troubleshootingreferee, which was entertaining.He was good as the baby-faced referee.fucking over the heels.Then they made him a ring announcer at SummerSlamwhere he started to insult Greg Valentine.
21:50And then they finally had the blowoff match at SummerSlam.And again, in a sea of gimmicks,to me as a kid, that match worked, that match registered.And it had the one funny momentwhen Ronnie Garvin blocked the figure fourbecause he had one of those,what was it called, the Grig Valentin?The shingard.
22:10No, but Greg Valentine had a specific name for it.I can't remember what it was.Oh, God.Yeah, I know what you're talking about.But he had one too, and he was, you know, making faces at Red Valentine while in the figure four.But, yeah, underrated feud, I think, Ronnie Garvin and Greg Valentine.Here's another that some people may not know that Ronnie Garvin's nickname in Southeastern wrestling in, what, 79, well, 77, 77, 78, 78, and then he broke off and went to ICW was the one-man gang.Yeah.
22:41One Man Gang, Ronnie Garvin.They broke inBig kid named Crusher Broomfieldand when he left and went to Mid-South Wrestling,that's when he started using the name One Man Gang.But that's where it came from.You want to talk about One Man Gang, Ronnie Garvin,specifically in Knoxville,
23:01and the footage ended up being used forever on ICW TV,the footage of him and Andre the Giant,which is like the biggest ass kicking I've ever seen Andre takefrom Ronnie Garvin in that matchand Ronnie Garvin's a tough guybut what was he 510, 511 maybe?No, no.I don't want to swear
23:20but 59 is what I would saybut, you know, well,maybe 510but at the same time230 pounds or whateverin fucking shape.He wasn't in the lean shapein Knoxville that he was later on
23:36for Crockettbut he was always in shapeand he could alwaysgo and he could do that shit.He could, but here's the thing.It was, as I recall, and I'm willing to let a Knoxville historian correct me, but RonnieGarvin had been working a deal with Roy Lee Welch, remember the Welch family.He was, Roy Lee was, God damn it, the nephew of always, never mind, it'll take us too long
24:03down a death of death row.Roy Lee was Lester's son.Roy Lee was Lester's son.There you go.And Ronnie Garvin.and somewhere or anotherRonnie Garvin said,I could beat you and any of your fucking friend
24:16one of those type of dealsand they booked it Andre the Giantand Roy Lee Welch against Ronnie Garvin.It's the only time Andre ever had a handicap matchwhere he was the two-guy team, right?But they didbecause Andre andAndre was French and Ronnie was French-Canadian
24:35and he respected him,he got him to do a little dealI don't know that Andre knew that that film camera was up in the fucking bleachers.That's the thing.He may not have known when it was filmed,but he also liked Ronnie Garvin because they were both French-Canadian.Well, not French-Canadian, but French.Well, and Andre had moved to Quebec and lived there for years, so blah, blah, blah.
24:59But anyway, yeah, Ronnie's beating him up in the corner and Andre selling,and then Ronnie hit him with the table at the table in the ring and fucking all this shit.And we used that and spoke about wrestling 15.years later that footage topublicize Ronnie.Yeah. But neverthelessso that's the thing is thatRonnie was very legitimate
25:20and you knowand also if you go back and dolook at the matches he had with Flairin 86, 87 onTBS or house shows or whateverI don't know what's out there on YouTuberemember he's inhis early 40s
25:35at that pointand in that kind of conditionand going that hard for that long.He was just, he was amazing.That's why he'd take the job guys.And because he didn't want to work with a guy that was just coming in, you know,flabbier than a fucking flat tire.And Mike Jackson is, you know, smarting him up and giving him a ride up there, right?
26:03He did not put it.How did Thess put it?He didn't brook that type of shenanigan.So he would take them down and put him in holes, whether they liked it or not,and take their own fingers and stick them up their own noses and make them pick their own,you know, because nobody fucked with Ronnie Garvin, right?He'd slap the sugar on you.And then when you got Garvin and Windham against the Midnight Express or Garvin v. Flair
26:31or any of his main event matches on television, then he was one of the best workers in a fucking locker room.He could sell and he could fight him.back and his shit looked good.And you knew it wasthere whenwhen he was exchangingthe chops with Wahoo McDanielor whatever.
26:51They were fucking hitting each other harder than I'dcare to be hit. But like I saidwhen I worked with him,he's throwing punchesat my head that I'm selling because I canfeel his hand and they look like they'rekilling me.But I'm okay.
27:08He was just, he was very, veryvery good. How did we get started with that? Well, we were talking about Ronnie Garvin,but hey, you brought up Royley Welch. You know, the first time I ever heard of him,Eddie Mansfield's IWF aired in New York in like 1992, 1993, and they're building him up on thatshow like he's a legend I should know. And I'm like 12. I've never heard of this guy.And I don't even know what his name is because they keep going, Royley Welch. I'm like, he's a royal?What are they saying exactly? Royally, is that one word? I never knew.you know, until years later, his name was Roy Lee Welch.
27:45I had no idea what the fuck he was.They were talking about it.He was an all-time legend.Well, he was in Eddie Mansfield's I-WF or whatever.I think that's, he was, that would have been late in Roy Lee's career,and he was probably trying to help him get it off the ground because he was in Florida, too.I didn't even see him Russell.I didn't even see him Russell.
28:05It was just like they were building up he was going to be there.Like, this was a big thing.I don't think it lasted that long.It wasn't that big of a thing.But Roy Lee's brother, Jackie,wasn't a bad worker. He was a good baby face.He spent some timeworking for Jarrett in 78,
28:23I think.And he was a nice fellow.What did you think of Ricky Fields?You know, I never saw much of them,the Fields brothers,because they were in Louisville,like sometimes,in 72, 73
28:40before I startedgoing to the matches live and they weren'treally featured in Memphisafter Jarrett took overthe book, maybe for who knowswhat reasons. So I never sawmuch of the Fields Brothers.All right, well this has been happy talk.
28:57Well, of course it has.Hey, you want to get happy?Come on. Let me get... I'll make you happy.But no, you know what? We started the wholegoddamn thing.I'll put a period on this.We started the whole thing talking about my health.How's your health?
29:13My health is good.As much as it may frustrate some people,I'm going to be around for quite some timeto point out your flaws and inconsistencies.Because I'm all right.Nobody worried about me.They didn't say anything about your vocal cords.Any issues with your vocal cords?
29:33No, they say after, you know,I had to quit singing years ago because of my throat.when the guy threatened to cut it, but it's, right now it's fine.Where is that man?Can we find that man?Is that man available?He's locked away.I'm in the best singing form I've ever been, is what the doctor said.
29:52Well, you know what else the doctor says?The cure for anything is Cornett's Collectibles at Jim Cornett.com.That's where I was going to say, I'm trying to find my notes here because February is a big deal, a big month.big things going on it's valentine's day that was the last thing on your mind when i queried youabout that subject a few days ago but valentine's day is february 14th you know you you mightwant to tell your sweetie what to get you for valour you might be the sweetie that is going toget something for somebody or you can tell your sweetie to get something for you and that waythe sweetness is passed around you know like god damn sugar but
30:35bowl.But one way or another, we are going to, what, do you know, when you pass around sugar bowl?No, I do not know, do I know?Sweetening things when you're sweetening your oatmeal to make the sugar go down,or the spoonful of sugar that makes the world go round and round.Will it go around in circles?We don't know.But at Jimcoronet.com in February from the first through the 28th.
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32:52And I think it's going to come in a jewel case.So right there, there's a quarter.You mean diamond or ruby?No, plastic.Oh.But it doesn't stretch your bend.That's why I can't figure out that whole thing about plastic man,but that was a previous conversation.
33:10Anyway, Jimcornet.com in February is the place to go.And, of course, we're open for business.If you don't want the action figures and save the money there,then you can go ahead and order whatever you like.And especially, we thank you for your support.All right, Cornett's Collectibles.Jimcornet.com, get in there and get your wrestling gold.With everything else.
33:37And plastic.Jim, we have a lot to get...We have a golden plastic.Keep going.Golden plastic is what you're going to get from me.And that's just all I had to say.You just keep rushing me.Is this important?
33:52Keep rushing you?You're a Russian?Comey Cornette?You see?You kept...You chastised me earlier for going into too much detail about certain things that you had askedabout.So now I'm scared to open my mouth.
34:05No, well, we have to hear what you have to say,because the next thing we're going to talk about herebefore we get to the fun stuff later on,although I'm very curious to hear what you're going to say about a few things here.A.E.W. Dynamite on January 15th.In Cincinnati, Ohio,was the Louisville show going to be dynamite or collision?Which show got moved from Louisville?
34:25I swear to God, that's what I was going to ask you.Because they were apparent, and now, are they doing collision live?are they coming back on Saturday or did they report it the next night it's been taped okay soso the Wednesday and a Thursday they were both nights they were in theRogers and Hammerstein music center whatever the fuck it was in in Cincinnatione of them was supposed to be Broadbin arena in Louisville the Andrew J. Brady music centerisn't he the fucking guy that got shot next to ReaganAndrew Brady?
35:05No, that's, uh, that's, um, the Brady bill.What's his first thing?James Brady.The Brady Bunch?James Brady.I thought it was Robert Reed.Uh, but anyway, one of these.He liked getting shot in the face.
35:17Just, hey, y'all, come on.Oh.Anyway, one of these was supposed to be in Louisville, and I just, thank goodness for the healthand welfare of my city that if it wasn't,this one.But the problem becamethen that they hadto find a...
35:42I don't know whyand it hasn't been talked aboutand I assume it's probablythere's an NDA involvedwhy they movedfromyou know,Broadbent Arena and Louis
35:55besides that it might have smelledlike a fucking stock showbut now they had toon short noticeput people in thissmall,building in Cincinnati two nights in a row when, you know, the only thing they had going for himin Cincinnati is it's John Moxley's hometown. He's probably been to a concert there and said, oh,
36:19you ought to run this because, ooh boy, point is, we'll talk about it more in the review hereat a second, but can you Google our friend Thurston Howl? Did anybody say how many people theyhad in this place becauseI'veseen game showtapings that practicallyhad more fans that you could see on cameraexcept when they went back
36:43to the concession stand and shot overeverybody's head with a wide anglebut thegeneral admissionseats looked oddbecause there was aI don't knowit looked like people were sitting in a
36:59chicken coop up there. There was awire apparatus in front of them that, you know, looked odd.And then there was only like three rows of general admission or bleachers or whateveryou, upper deck, whatever you would call it.And then it was a big flat room, right?You know, I like rooms like this, and I think it gives you better energy.It's kind of like the Hammerstein, if you have a good hammerstein.The issue was the way was laid out.
37:27And I think if they had shot the camera a little off center,wouldn't have been so bad, but dead against the camera was just a black wall.And they didn't put anything there.And you kind of needed something there because it felt a little, it felt a little blank, I guess.Yeah, well, and that's the thing is, I think part of the problem may have been,it looked like when they were shooting from the back that some of the floor people were underan overhang.And if you'd have shot the other way, you wouldn't have, I don't know if you'd have seen
37:57a minute.is it's a concert fucking music venue.It's not necessarily a te.I don't know.I just thought it,it sort of looked like a giant pole barn.According to Russell Ticks,1,570 tickets distributed,
38:14which I think would have been a selloutor approximately around there.And, you know, again,if there were that many people there,you couldn't tell.And a lot of it's just the waythe building, too, was laid out.Yeah.
38:24You looked at the first, I don't know what it would be,the loge, the first section above, the loge.The loge reserved.If you look there, there were people sitting, and it looked like they couldn't put anyoneelse there, but it also looked like there was a big gap between them and the next person,almost like they were seats for, like, a single person with a lot of space.I don't know.I thought that, I think that it was bleachers rather than individual chairs, and I think people
38:52just didn't want to hump the person next to them when there wasn't, because...I'm not talking on the floor.floor. I'm talking about up.No, I mean up, up, yeah. That's the thing is that if they distributed 1,500 tickets,but if all of them didn't come, the farthest away seats would probably be the ones thatyou would have some vacancies in. One would assume.Speaking of vacancies, what's in between Dick the Boozer's ears?So they opened the show with an artistic video.
39:27A lost cue tip.there you goDick, you and the horsemanwere explainingwhy we should care aboutwhat the fuck's going on tonight with HobbsI guess rightthis again
39:44every Moxley promo is terriblehe has words he wants to sayand clearly in his headit all kind of comes togetherit's not coming together for a single other human being right nowI don't know why his friends aren't honest with him about itYou know we've been saying it they're the bore horsemanIt's the most boring faction of killers
40:05Because they've tried to kill peopleIt's not like I want to put him out of actionThey wanted to suffocate him so he couldn't breatheI like the bleach betterThey all yeahThen they wouldn't the poor bleached at his throatIt was security by the point but whateverThis was a complete example though
40:23Of polar oppositesand you had the boozer and the horsemanjust he's rambling and they're showing the footageof whatever they're doing but it doesn't explain anything about what the hellhas been going on or what this whole thing isbut then they transition to Hobbs and he's speakingand he looks like a starand in probably 30 seconds and maybe it was edited
40:51but what's the fuck at least it came off on televisionhe cut a great promo in plain language explainingkind of why he wanted Moxley, how he got to Moxley,and why he wants to kick his ass.And it was, that's, you know, I knew,I don't know what the fuck's going on with these other people at the start,but that big fucking mean-looking guy wants to kick this guy's ass.He got my attention and I,
41:23they didn't say anythingI was goingwhat the fuck is happening hereand I agreebut the problem isas I was watching thisall I'm thinking ishow are they going to do the match
41:33if he losesit kind of takes awayeverything I've donein the last week and a halftwo weeksto try to build him upand if he winsyou have a new world champion
41:43so I wasn't sureand the way they wentwell there are there are shades of grayin between that they could have doneif they knew what they were doing and they didn't do any of them,but I understand your point.And that was it?And we'll get there because that's our main event, ladies and gentlemen,
42:04of this.Do we mention it was on January 15th or did we even hear?Yes, I said that.Well, you willing see?Well, I'm just making sure.I got to keep an eye on you.So, and they plug the other main matches for the night.and then our opening match is Brian Cage
42:24and our friend Kenny Olivierreturning to the ring in AEW.Brian, is this a lesson in context and venue?When, you know, Brian Cage comes out to the ring, fine, good.I still think he's a lost causebecause he don't get this mentally.He looks like a million dollars.He can do all the shit,
42:51but he just does too much of.it, et cetera.But when Kenny comes out with the ridiculously over-dramatic entrance, and at least they cutthe running gag where Justin Roberts would give him the, you know, allocades, as Lugarwould say, you know, in the whole, that whole mouthy thing.But he's got pyro and lighting and the fucking screen, and Justin Roberts,herniates himself to announce him.You know, if he was a guy that was over currently in the WWE, in the venues they're running
43:35with the production they have, something like that, would not look out of place.But does it look ridiculous when they're coming out, as I said, to what looks like in someangles a glorified pole barn?if you deserve all this shitwhat the fuck are you doing heredo you see what I'm saying I see what you're sayingI mean I'm not gonna nitpick it that muchjust because it was his return match obviously he was the most over guy
44:05in the entire show and they missed himit's interesting that like Moxleythey've changed his musicand with Omega I don't think it's helped himlike he used to have music that kind of got you pumped into itit's different now and it's not working.But again, it's a minor thing.I've noticed it the last few times.
44:25The people were happy to see Kenny,and they got classic Kenny.Well, it certainly was.And that's as dramatic as theentrance is, it can't come to thephysical drama that ourfriendly neighborhood Harpo Marxlook-alike winner, you know,
44:44goes into when he gesticulates and finger pointsand,gasps for air, but, I mean, this was, you know, the atmosphere of the crowd was you can hearindividual people expressing emotions, right, in between the moves.Then they're sitting there and a random fuck Don Callas chant broke out.I think that's what they were saying.In the first couple minutes, can he try to do a thing where he fucking jump,up, turn around and pick a bail of cotton, jumped up and flipped over cage off of cage's shoulders
45:26onto his feet, but he over rotated and face planted in the goddamn mat busted his own headopen.It wasn't a cut.It was a mat burn that trickled blood and had kind of a bloody spot.It wasn't a stitches or anything, but he just face planted, boom.and you know, I don't.They like these kind of matches,but I saw the same thing as they usually do,
45:56and they got heat on Kenny,and they fought on the ramp,and it's every Japanese video game matchand the finger pointing.And then, again, at one point, Cage,I had to go back a couple of timesand just see how obvious this was.Cage climbed up on the turnbuckles
46:21while Kenny was on the apron.But Kenny was next to him.He wasn't trying in any way to assault Kenny.He just got his feet on a second ropeand leaned over the top turnbuckleand held on to the fucking post.And just bent over like that.And then Kenny standing right next to him.
46:43slaps him about 15 times in the head like he's trying to stun himand my little used to shoe flies harderand then Kenny jumps from the apron of the top ropeand flips over and power bombs cage off the top ropewhere that's what position cage has been in for the previous 15, 20 secondsand I'm like what I doesn't when they watch this backdo they not see how rotten and stupidstupid and phony that looks.
47:16Has, does nobodypointed out to them? Hey,dumb shit, why did you put yourselfin that position?Wouldn't a guy that you'refighting is a foot and a half to the left of you?Then Kennyran and missed a knee lift on a stationary
47:34target. He hit cage in the armand sock face had to, well, it was aglancing blow.At first he said direct hit,I think.And then when the replay showed that he hit his shoulder,then they had to say, oh, it hit his cheek.No, you know what?
47:50I think, I think, first he said, oh, a direct hit,and then he realized, and somebody else said a glancing blow,and then they fucking compromised in the middle.I don't know.But at then, at one point,Kenny points to the ropes,and he points to the sky, and he hits the ropes,and he runs right past cage,
48:12he's trying to do like a duck and roll up from behind or whatever,but he just ran right past him.And Cage picks him up.He tries to drop behind.He went sideways.They went back and forth.And Kenny hit a big knee lift that looked good.And then Cage is on his knees and the ropes and he hits another knee lift.
48:33It looks like shit.Because there's no place for the guy to take a bump.And then instead of doing anything else to like,or just covering the fucking guy,he leaned cage over the ropesand got in between his legs.Maybe I'm not like it sounds.Let me back up.
48:56He picks Cage upwho's supposed to be halfway stunnedinto incoherencyand leans him over the top ropeand Cage is having to lay therewhile he leans his head,Kenny does,in between Cage's lips,
49:12and then Cage can hold on to the top rope and help Kenny pick him upfor his fucking finish, the one-winged angel or the one-winged fairy.I forget which it is.Lazy cover, one, two, three.That's the only finish in AEW they've ever put over strong.If you really think about it, who else has a finisher?I guess Moxley choking people to death.Who else has a finisher that no one kicks out of?
49:42it's Omega, that's the only one.I dare one of these guysto start doing that movein the middle of a matchand kicking out of itlike you do with everyone else's finishes.There you go.Except I...
49:53It looks a little dodgy to meon one spinal column.I don't know if I would betrusting this guyor anybody else to fucking do that.But it...I was always taughtnever take a bump
50:08completely folded upbecause you've got nowhereto fucking absorb the shockand that's exactly what these knuckleheads do.Real quick before you get to the post-match stuff,so obviously your feelings aside,any thoughts I have than a negative aside,Kenny Omega,
50:24maybe the most popular in-house guythat have an AEW with the fans still.What do you mean in-house now?I mean, the most popular guy in the companythat when he makes an appearance,you know, Will Osprey's popular,but Omega, it's a different reaction.Well, because he's been gone for a fucking year.
50:40Let him hang around for about,four months. Well, that leads into my question. If you know he's coming back andI'm going to assume he, well, let's see what kind of schedule he works. If you don't thinkhe's going to be wrestling that often, do you have this match on Dynamite or do you savea Kenny Omega match for it people could pay for it? Because he's proven. He's one of the guysyou could say has proven in the past. He's been a pay-per-view draw for them. So if you havethat, you have a match here. It was a pretty long match more competitive than it probablyshould be for a Kenny Omega return match.
51:13Well, of course.But why would you give that away?Should you hold that kind of match back for pay-per-view?Well, there could be the thought that, well, then, if he appears regularly to promote the matchthat we're holding back for pay-per-view, then he's got to talk.And even I will admit that of two things to see Kenny Omega talk or to see Kenny Omegafucking wrestle, I'd probably rather see him wrestle, which shows how much I want to see himtalk. But it's not like that he's proven that he can talk to people into the building.
51:48He's the guy in the ring. But I certainly would have either book him against somebody,not one of these comedy job guys either, but a competent, middle-level fucking predominantlyheal that he could have had asix or seven minute match with just as like a tune-up thing.He really wants to prove he's going to start the beginning of whatever,then do your fucking angle afterwards.Or maybe not even do your angle afterwards.Maybe do that once or twice or three times on TV
52:27and then do your angle afterwards.And then let him have a competitive matchon pay-per-view that people need to pay to see.and but they've already wastedthe goddamnthe gut everybody's hitting him in the stomach nowthey've already done thatand haven't even got him advertised
52:48in a fucking main eventstyle match so there's your angleand you've done itoh Kyle has punched himsomebody else fucking punched him the other dayor vice versauh no it was in thisafterbirth this is where they did the angle
53:04already and I'll just say this beforeyou go to the angle, a couple of things real quick.Don Callis is like a parody of a manager.And I don't know how anyone would ever take him seriously.And that's the problem.If you get to have managers, you have to have good ones, serious ones.Not that they can't be funny like you were, but people took you seriously.Don Callis, it's like a guy performing.
53:24He's playing at it.Playing a manager.He's performing as a manager.That's one thing.Second thing is, his stable sucks and none of them know how to do a beatdown.If you watch, and it wasn't even just here.Later on with Pack, I noticed it too.No one knows how to just stomp a guy on the mat.
53:38And then when Lance Archer started throwing shots at him on the mat, he couldn't do that either.I know, I don't know what has gone on.I don't know what.Again, you need snapping your kicks and you need to make a little fucking noise with them.And not kicking the guy, but kicking the mat, making noise with your movement, putting oomph into it, with the punches.They need to, these weasels need to open up and you need to know how to throw a fuckingpunch. It takes two to fucking tango.And he needed to punch people
54:08at a believable fashion.And justshow some aggression andsome body language and someurgency when you're trying to get heat.But Archer and Doncame in onKenny. I wrote phony
54:24kicks and weak punchesand then old Kyle came inand hit the big gut punchin which they already havedone in an angle here not long ago.right when he first came back he should have never cut his hair i'm sorry oh boy and then but here thencomes osprey and he hits the ring and he and kyle are going to have the one two one two and he'sgonna fucking dump kyle and they trade punches that are fake because they don't change their facial
54:57expressions they don't register them with their body language they throw them i'll i'll iI hit, you hit, I hit, you hit, next to,or in the vicinity of the guy's fucking head and face,but it doesn't even change their expressionbecause they're going through the motion of doing this.And that's why it looks like shit.And then Osprey dumped Kyle and staggered Archer.And by that point, Kenny,
55:29whose surgically repaired gut just took the big punch from Kylewho must fucking hit like my Aunt Lola.Kenny was already up and knee lifted him.And then Osprey hit that shitty elbow that he,for whatever reason he uses as his finish,that this time it was his armpit that hit Archer in the back of the head.And then Kenny started kind of arguing and confrontingand being as aggressive as he usually as normally ever is verbally
56:06with Osprey, who's the guy that helped him,but then he shoved Osprey out of the way and dove out on Kyle,who apparently was going to try to jump him.And so I don't really know why that Kenny would be so ungrateful,but we didn't find out because as soon as he did the dive,music hit and here cameTegas shit. And hejust got in the ring and he and Kenny
56:38just started tradingforearms and punches withoutselling him. And it was a smallramp. It was kind of ridiculous to hit his musicfor the running. Well yes, it wasfucking 50 feet from thecurtain to the goddamn ropes.And
56:54so thenKylegave Kenny thethe snap dragon, the begonia suplex,the marigold suplex, whatever.And thentake a shit, close-lineKenny, I had to take notes.
57:11Take a shit, close-lineKenny, but Osprey got back inand fought Kyle and Take,but they stopped himand then gave both guys brainbustersnext to each other.And then all the heels stood thereand celebrated while nobody
57:26came to helpeither baby face or evenreferees coming outto wave their arms.They just did all that.What'd you think?I mean, I thought the match went too long.I'm not a Brian Cage fan.
57:46Every time I want to give the guy a chance,the match goes too long and I get to see too much, I guess.The fans love Omega.And I don't know if that meant they wanted to see him go backto a feud with Don Callis.You know, it's like MJF.When he came back, people didn't want to see him go back to the Adam Cole feud.When Adam Cole came back, they didn't want to see him go to the
58:06MJF feud. I don't think it's to that level. I think people were hoping that Omega right out of thegate would be used really strong on top. And, you know, right now they're going to do somethingwith him and Osprey, a frenemy kind of situation teaming up. Why? But why were theyarguing with each other or about history? Because they have a history. Because they have a history wherethey didn't wait a minute. No, wait a minute. Ossprey didn't even get here after Kenny was already outhurt last year. Remember.Osprey wrestled Kenny at the Tokyo Dome, I think.Oh, Christ. I want to say, it's been a while and they do so much stupid shit. I want to say
58:44they did something with him in AEW. Remember, Osprey was originally with Don Callis.Well, yeah, but that was also after Kenny left, wasn't it? Yeah, maybe it was. I don't know.And obviously, obviously Scalber did not do a good job of explaining any of this.Well, but besides that, they're worried about who was mad at who in Japan seven years ago,instead of what they might be able to put togetherto make anybody interested right now.And the last thing they needwhen they got two popular baby faces
59:15is to have either one of themarguing or teaming and splitting upto have a big dream matchwhich will inevitably cause somebodyto pick one over the other.Then you're devaluing one of your fugginsthe Bruno Andre fucking principal.That's why they never had the match.
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01:05:41It was like Golden Rivers by IP Freely.Did you ever read that book?So speaking of draft kings,it wasn't Rickashay the king of something at some point?Wasn't he king ricochet?Was that in the other company?Well, it wasn't here, yeah.well boy now he's
01:06:03he's gone from being the king of his own domainto an inhabitant of swerve strickland's guest househe comes out to the ringand the fans booing but again this is almost kind of like they'rethey're kind of enjoying booing the guybecause they don't really like him I guess is what I'm trying to saybut they love saying swerve's house.So now that he's messing around with swerve Strickland,
01:06:36they can say swerve's house.And he milked it for a while,but it wasn't like one of these epic milks on raw,you know, that goes on forever,and the people are,it wasn't that overwhelming besides swerve's house.And he comes out in a suitwith the golden scissors in his pocket,
01:07:00is the breast pocket of his jacket.Did you see that?I did.What does he have to do with golden scissors?Besides the fact that he previously tried to or did stab the guy, I can't remember.It's just, you know, one of many felonious assaults.But am I missing the brutus, the barber beefcake connection to the fucking hedge tremors herethat why ricochet is not?
01:07:30noted for stabbing people with scissors past two weeks ago?Until we first saw it, from the first time we saw it, that was the first time I saw it.I don't remember having a connection to scissors.He has no hair.This could be the first time, maybe the last time, I don't know.Just butcher the Rolling Stones, but okay.So, well, they're old, and I can get away with it.But they're alive, and you should have some respect.
01:07:59well pahak pitouy mick-a-jack i humbled you but nevertheless the golden scissors were in his pocketand his first words after all this dramatic milking of the kind of tepid response wasyou know what and i'm like what the fuck this fucking guy and he's he you know what uh yeahwhatever you think pictures speak louder than words and it showed a picture ofpicture on a screen of him overswerve and swerves bleedingbuckets and everythingand then suddenly swerve's music
01:08:37plays and while he's looking for swerveNana slidesin behind and hitsRikishay with a chair and knocks himgoofy. So nowNanahas been and I haven'tbeen an advocate of this but Nana's been
01:08:53punked out and back down with a coldicy stare by every fucking heelbut Rickashie getsin with a chair just knocks a shit out of him.And then swerve comes from thefrom the other side, from the entranceway,and has a logging chainand takes a big swing
01:09:11is going to whip ricochet with the chainand ricochet rolls out on the floorand does the stumble thingpretending like he can't get to the exit,which is the exit door on the other side of the arenais 50 feet from the ring.And so he throws ussecurity guard at swerve and then takes off out the door into the snow and ice.
01:09:35They've just made ricochet the biggest fucking flunky in the world, have they not?I mean, not just with this, but just he came in with the big fucking hooplaand was going to be a major baby face that is the, you know, one of the top guysbeating the other top guys. And has it been six months?And he did, bleh.If Swerve had run in there and attacked him, it's one thing.But for him to take a chair shot from Nana, who then starts dancing.Nana's never done anything to show that he's a pair of balls as a character on the show.
01:10:16And then this, I...That's the thing, it's like, I want to lean into the ricochet thing and like it,because, okay, he's all of a sudden dressing like a nerd, and it kind of matches the voice.But he gets beat down by the fucking manager of Swerer.I mean, everything is...do it's like one step forward five steps back every time you want to give him a little bit of credibilitythey treat them like a jerk off don't usually don't to baby faces switch heel because theyfeel like they can do better they've been wrong somehow he was as a baby face people were
01:10:47cheering him and he was just beating everybody and oh he opened his mouth yeah he started doingpromos and people heard him talk yes and then when people told him on twitter about how bad theydidn't want to hear him talk, then he started fucking cussing him out individually.And now he's a fucking heel that gets laid out by the manager.Anywho, should we even talk about the Mercedes Moone video package?She was on a talk show?Is this a recognized show?I didn't catch the first run of it.
01:11:28There were clips on this package, and she should.was she was shopping.We know she can shop.And I didn't see her dropping.So she didn't shop until she dropped.But she,you know, for people who don't know anything about wrestling,she does come off like she ought to be somebody
01:11:50because she's convinced,but I mean, I just, I couldn't.Like a character. She comes off like a personwho's convinced she's playing this character full time,not like someone who's really that person.So, you know, there was that.I don't know if we can really delve into any detail on that.No, it's been a few weeks when out Mercedes-Mone.
01:12:12Maybe she's looking for Camille.Maybe she can't find Camille.And she said, where's Camille?I can't be a TV, Tony.Give me your charge card.I got to go shopping.Because I need to have nice clothes on when I find Camille.That's right.
01:12:27Well,why did they do what they did?I wonder. Oh, I wonder, wonder, oh, but oh,why, why, Tony, why?MVP wrestled in a six-man tag on this television program.Already, it was Bobby Lashley, Shelton Benjamin,an MVP against Private Party and Mark Briscoe.they put MVP in the ring with what did they announce this on Twitter or maybe on collision or whatever the fuck
01:13:04but a cold TV match against midcard talent they put the manager the only one that has anylegitimate I don't know if you can call it heat now overnessand they put him and he wrestled most of the match it instead it that waswas a pay-per-view money match if they'd have done anything right, including waiting on it.But this didn't do these guys, I mean, Mark Briscoe was a great pro, but he's been renderedsomewhat meaningless, but private party ain't ready to be in this position.And the match wasn't good.a lot of times there was silence from the fans
01:13:55because they're like, what the fuck?These three guys could obliterate.You know, and they kind of like Mark.Neither private party guy got inuntil I think they'd gone through a break.It was a mess.It looked like at one point,Shelton Benjamin gave the green-haired private party guy something,
01:14:20but Shelton sold itand got covered for a table.count.And then Lashley gave upMark Briscoe would a credible belly-to-bellythrow on the floor.But it was just in the middle of all of thismess. Private Party number one
01:14:37jumped off Private Party number two'sback to do thelike big leg lariatback kick in the corner and almostflew through the ropes and fell out of the ringand barely touched Shelton Benjaminwith the kick.and then Lashley chokeslammed one and Shelton suplexed another
01:14:57and Lashley speared one and Sheldon Germaned the otherand super kicked him one, two, three.But the MVP did not need to be in the ringand just some fucking match.That is something you should have saved for a legitimate pay-per-view draw.Private party shouldn't have gone honestly,five minutes with SheltonBenjamin and Bobby Lashley
01:15:28they're not ready to be in thatand it was too longbesides it just started indicating thatthere was going to be some kind of thing withLashley and Shelton as a tag teamagainst private party. We were just talking about itlast week.We were talking about how exciting it is.
01:15:46You know what? That could be something for the tagging division.You were talking about how exciting it was. I was talking aboutgood and they can put the belts on Sheltonand move on.I'm saying it would be a different look for the tag team division and it would be a whole new set of matches like them against FTR, things we've never had.Then the next week they put him in a six-man match with their manager who was not wrestled in AEW before.Again, MVP was like an Intercontinental Champion stuff a while back.He's a fantastic manager.
01:16:12I don't even remember the last time I've seen him wrestle.Well, they said it was two and a half years since he'd had a match or whatever on commentary.But again, the point is that's why I should have been saved for a pay-per-view main event.where and not with private partywith the next morecredible tag teamhopefully out there that Lashley and Benjaminwould be working with and then
01:16:37MVP does something thatthey have to go and get another guy and he's forced into the thingand blah blah blah we've done this drill many timesin many ways over the years and this ain't it brobrobroDid you see the little sit down with F.T. Cope?The comments from the media scrum.
01:17:04Actually, I did not see this.I missed this.Well, they just, they put it in there.It was like a minute from the media scrum with some, you know,B-roll of some highlights or whatever.But the whole point of the thing was that they were all best friends.Oh, yeah, I love to be able to do this with my friends.You know, Edge said when, you know what I was training to come back.
01:17:26I trained with what we live in Asheville.we're great friends and Dax and Cash said, yeah, he's a great friend of ours.We all, but it's a rib at this point.The baby faces should be friends, but now all friends wrestling has become everybody,the whole bone of contention from the start is, are you, my friend?Would you be my neighbor?But anyway, should we get into it now?It's time for it.
01:17:58next segment, which started at 8.55 p.m. Eastern, went across the top of the 9 o'clock hour,and for all we know is still going on today, was with Jeff Jarrett and MJF.And by the way, I would like to acknowledge that the fact that there was a Dick the Boozer signheld up on television during this segment, even though the Boozer wasn't in this segment.but he got it on TV before they took it away,and we'd like to thank, I'm just going to give his first name,Dylan from up in Florence, Kentucky.Florence, y'all.
01:18:40Dylan, thank you very much.You are the winner of the Dick the Boozer sweepstakes,and Brian, what does he win?A hearty hand clasp or a pat on the back.You win 48 hours with the boar horsemen.Spend time with them as they drive endlessly to nowhere.All along, you go nowhere.with the bore horseman
01:19:00courtesy your friends of AEWand of course Dick the Boozerand by the way folksthat was totally unprepared copythat he just recited therebutuhin Ontario
01:19:12there certainly is one thereum AEW securitydid not like the signthey they confiscated itabout 15 minutesafter he got thereor held it up or whateverbut he attached the photos of the sign that was held up in the,
01:19:33and I saw it on the camera, so I saw it on the camera.The funniest thing is not just the sign being held up.It's when you see the person's face and they're having the time of their lifeholding the sign up.And you know that Tony and security are like, oh, shit, get the sign, get the sign, get the boozer sign.They're the happiest fan in the fucking room when they're holding up the sign.But anyway, so, but back to this, I'm just trying to prolong.boy when you
01:20:01I've personallylike one person hereand well I can't say I've obviouslypeople know that I have worked with MJF in the pastso I personally like both peoplebut professionally Jeff especiallyand professionallyyou know MJF has
01:20:18has such talent and had suchpromiseandJeff comes out and says fivewords and then MJF music and that used to be okay we're on autopilot for the next 20 minuteswhatever happens we're going to enjoy it and it ain't it ain't there no more because i don't knowwhat is going on here but they jeff is i like the idea of jeff and we talked about this and you said youwere even somewhat interested in the idea of jeff making some you know last run
01:21:00the last outlaw at winning the titleand being an important person and theyhad Dustin come out later on and give him a peptalk about, you know, we're a last ofa dying breed and you're a veteran and blahblah, blah. I said it could be something ifdone well. I'm not a fan of Jeff Jarrett and I'venot been a fan of him in AEW and I think
01:21:16AEW should bring him in and make him an on-air character.However... But it's a story.If it was done well,again, at the same time, WWE'sdoing the Sina thing, if it was donewell, it could be good TV.That's what I thought. And at the samepoint
01:21:31for meMJF and JeffJarrettbecause MJF is aworker and astudent of thegameand they
01:21:42with all thetricks that Jeffknows and allthe thingsthat MJFhas theaptitude forcould put
01:21:48together a heckof a matchwithout thehavoc ofConronasand theflipsaround the
01:21:52fuckingperipheryand I'dlike to seethatbut afterthispromo
01:21:58I don'tdon't want to see any of it.Because what they did herewasit was the promoequivalent of the indie matchthat goes too far andgoes too long and
01:22:15there were too many devastatingmaneuvers in this interviewand you could seethat if this againif all things were equaland this was on WWF orWWE televisionand it was the Tawasina or punk or Rollins or whoever their top cunning linguists are that were cutting
01:22:37drew edge to the bone promos at each other that one of these 10 or 12 lines that they utteredwould have go oh and then the other one may have come back with one more line or just started the fightyou see what I'm saying yeah but this was a goddamn completeyou know fucking friars club roast evisceration of both guys practically but i meanMJF says the leads off with jeff jerrit is the last thing you see before your favoritewrestling company dies again maybe a true statement but maybe not the thing you should sayyeah but yeah the guy you're about to work with and some allegedly main event program but alsoactually theoretically, no, not correct.
01:23:32Because Jeff Jared wasn't the final champion in WCW,TNA wrestling still exists to this day.Global Force didn't make it,but I don't think that was anybody's favorite wrestling company.Not even Jeff's.There you go.But it's for the insiders.This was, and Jeff went right along with it.
01:23:56But MJF called Jeff a raging alcoholand talked about sending him back to rehab.Oh, but I'm a big fan of that sexy milf, Karen,while you're in rehab, you know, tell her to call methat way later on she can show youwhat a generational talent and an Olympic gold medalist balls taste like.And Jeff is in the corner and he's just having to smirk and laugh it offbecause he's going to come back with all this stuff.
01:24:32but again a little insidekind of bad tastebut also it's so muchthey're in a pole barn in CincinnatiHey can I ask you a questionI know that Jeff's not hidden the fact that he had aissue with substances and I guess you would say substance abuseand he's clean
01:24:57but has that ever been talked about?Well I don't know if it was alcoholit wouldn't beWas it just alcohol?Well, I believe that was the case.I mean, unless you count vodka and bourbonas two different things or whatever,I don't think he was on fucking crack and mushrooms,
01:25:13but go ahead.See, I don't know.And again, I don't think mushrooms are really a problem.Mushrooms are a wonderful thing that can enlighten.All right, Dr. Leary, let's stay on topic.But, no, but crack is bad.Crack is whack.Crack is what I'm trying to say.
01:25:27Yeah.But has that been established on TV?Has that ever been talked about the fact that he's been doing?no that's what i again this is all for the people on the internet but what i'm saying to you is ifsomebody in the wide wide united states of america happened to be turned on to tbs on a wednesday nightto see these two guys in in a wrestling ring but there's the entrance way 50 feet away and itlooks like a nicolade elodean game show set and there's not 15 hundredpeople there because there's only 1,500 tickets out.
01:26:04That includes the freebies people didn't fucking show up for.And these guys are talking about what each other's balls are going to taste like to theirfucking wife and you're a raging alcoholic.And then Jeff comes back and he's trying to, after that evisceration, he still has a story to tell.where he knows his best years are behind him.But when he entered the Owen Hart Cup,the fans woke up a desire in him.Could he do it one more time,
01:26:41got a blah, blah, blah, and that type of thing?Could that put me on track to be the AEW champion?But you think you hurt my feelings?All that's been said before,so apparently everybody talks bad about Jeff.But he said,I've done all your shit better than you.now here's the problem
01:27:00is thatyes Jeff was a heelfor most of his nationaltelevision exposure but I don't knowthat anybody thinks that hewas the verbal linguist equivalent of whatMJF does but at the same timeJeff's done a lot more dirty things
01:27:20physically because he's been allowed towell noI mean in anglesthat meant somethingwith main event talent because he was in a company that allowed that type of thing.But to point is, he's telling that story.It's like he wants to get sympathy behind him as a valiant veteran trying to,but then he comes back with, I don't know if you're a dumbass or a scumbag.
01:27:51Because your family life, you were raised by a call girl mother at an ambitial.chasing father.Where did that come from?That's why I don't fucking know.When your father knocked your mom up,did she still make him pay for that shit?What is,I mean, suddenly we got, you know,
01:28:13the goddamn Comedy Central roast up here.The other problem is,MJF, no matter what lines he's saying,he'll try to get into the intensity of itand he tries.Jeff's deliveryBeyond the materialHe was doing Hitty Youngman
01:28:32But his delivery suckedLike JeffI thought one of the issues here wasThe overall segment there were a lot of issuesBut Jeff'sI just didn't think Jeff was reallyI don't know what good that could have been doneBut Jeff was not doing good here
01:28:45Jeff is not an insult comicAnd he saidAnd your old ladyA girlfriend, not motherYour old lady is a Canadian call girland I actually wrotewhat is happeningwhat is happening
01:29:01and then Jeff saidwhy youwhile you were going 60 minuteswith Osprey your wife your old ladywas out in the parking lotbanging 10 guysand you're a scaredlittle boy you're scared of everything
01:29:18you're scared of being a one hit wonderand so then nowif you think we're done you know ladiesJop comes back and here's asaid MJF always tries to sound like he means it.The problem is he's too mad too often for it to register or land, as the kids say,as impactfully as it once did, because now he's always up like that.And he said, I didn't need my daddy or to start my own company to be a main event guy.
01:29:50I've got Wembley. I'll always have Wembley.and the records I setand I got screwed out of my title and my reputationand I wrote this is so longand MJF saidno wrestling fan has ever given a shit about youway to build up probably the guythat's had more national television exposure
01:30:10over the years than anybody else on your programit's a different thingthan no wrestling fangives a shit about you today old manthat fits the story.No wrestling fan has ever given a shit about youonly registers with thehonestly the fucking wrestling observer marks
01:30:35that because Jeff didn't do moonsaultsand even Dave liked him when he was a fucking rookie.So it doesn't,this whole thing is not for anybody otherthan who they've already gotand not a lot of them.And then, well, I'm just going to say, and then MJF has to, then, you know, kind of get on Owen Hart in a roundabout way by getting on Jeff because you're just a leech riding your friend Owen Hart's goattails.And that's when Jeff nailed him at the 12-minute mark of this thing.
01:31:12It took.And there's more, but let me stop you right there.Yes.And I may want to ask you questions about some of the other stuff, but the Owen Hart thing.Again, they have a deal with Dr. Martha Hart.They have Owen Hart tournaments from men and women.Even with that being the case.What about the midgett, by the way?
01:31:28Come on now.Talk about discrimination.Well, they have to take them out of the heavyweight divisionand give them their own division first.But with that said, they still have dropped people from the ceiling.You know, even though I guess they obviously did it a lot safer than WWE did,the point is, I don't know if I'd be doing that.Now they're using Owen Hart in this kind of situation.
01:31:49here, what do you think about that?Is that something that should bother people?Well,again, and Jeff and Owen really were friends.And that part is true,and people know that. That's why they're trying to playon this, but it,the point I was going to make about the tone of the whole thing,
01:32:08and it applies to using Owen'sname also, so it's answering part of your question.This was likethe dying day of a territorywhenthey werethey'd do anythingFritz von Erick having a heart attack
01:32:25and the advance of reunion arenaor whateverdepending on whether he was getting betteror getting worseor the closing daysof the Sheiks TVwhen he'd be strangling a bloody guywith a fucking 10 foot snake
01:32:40and it still didn'tit was in a TV studionobody caredthe venueany of these lineson rawspoken amongst the top guyswould get the big ooh the big pop
01:32:55but there were dozens of themthey just eviscerated each otherbut alsoit was so smart and so insidebecause so much of this stuff didn'tapply to any storythat had been told on televisionwe didn't know for example
01:33:10thatMJF's mother was a fucking whorewe weren't aware of thatit hadn't been brought up beforethe fans they can give a shitI mean Jeff show saying all this stuff to MJFand the fans you knowit was it was almost like they were thinking
01:33:27well is Jeff just trying to say all that stuffto see if he'll get MJF to hit himand give him a taste of his own medicinewhich may have been the point of the whole thingbut yeah that was the thing I think justI'm going to do what you doand show you how ridiculous it isbut it kind of you know
01:33:40didn't really connectit was a small roomwith fans that weredisinterested in a lot of thingsand of course the programit looked desperateit looked oh my God we got to say anythingkilling puppies
01:33:55remember the skit on Saturday Night LiveDan Aykroyd is the radio talk hostso I want you to talk back to metonight we'll talk about the Secretary of Stategives the phone number nobody callswell also we'll talk about abortionnobody callswell so we'll talk about gun control
01:34:17here call this number and talk back to menothing finally he's likekilling puppies I'm for itwhat do you thinkand then the phone rings it's a fucking wrong numberit's dead they were it was desperate hereit's desperatethey're they're having a heart attack
01:34:37in a three quarters empty buildingto say that I justit didn'tI don't know.The other thing is, like I said to you,I think for two previous segments,maybe three,leading up to this,
01:34:52if Jeff Jarrett's last yearwas done right,it could really be something.It could be good TV.If you were going to do something with him and MJF,I would have to think there were other waysyou could have made it different than this.Well, but, you know,
01:35:10besides that,battle. That wasn't what Jeff Jarrett needed to be in the law. No, no, this was a kind of a one-sidedthing, but again, with the material, maybe MJF wrote some of that material. It's not Jeff'snormal style, but it doesn't matter. Besides that, if you were going to do something like thatwith Jeff, why would MJF be the first fucking thing? Because MJF still one of your morevaluable commodities shrinking fast on the exchange, but why would we?wouldn't you give Jeff somebody that he would succeed against in some three or four week deal or whatever the fuckon his, or maybe a couple of them? And then MJF, where that goes to a pay-per-view and you have some type of
01:35:59ability to monetize interest that because you've got to show Jeff capable of doing part of thethe marathon before the people are going to believe he might be able to complete a marathon, right?He hadn't started yet.Well, speaking of a marathon, we weren't even done with the segment.Well, yeah, because then finally, when MJF said that about Owen and Jeff pickled him,he got on him and started beating on him and security came in.And actually the people booed a little bit security, the idea of they were going to break it up.and then Karen comes in
01:36:38and she's trying to pull Jeff backand as MGF gets up he grabs Karenand hides behind her and thenbales out of the ring and runs off.What I thought they were going to do for a secondand at this point my god they might as wellhave shot somebodyis I thought MGF was going to come out of the corner
01:36:55with the diamond ring and Jeff Duckand him pickle Karenbut I bet that crossed somebody's mindbut againend this, it, it's all like, oh, Jeff has signed for one more year and he's going to try tomarch to the title.Well, here's MJF.Well, goddamn.
01:37:17I don't really see that Jeff should come out on the winning side of a feud with MJF, buthe didn't do anything to prove he was capable of any of this yet.Timing, timing.I think the material was an issue.I think the way this is going is not connecting with people,but also I think Jeff specifically,even if he was given bad material,his delivery and the way this all came off did not work at all.
01:37:48And unfortunately, I think a lot of fans feel that way.And, you know, I can't keep saying this,but you know, you can't keep saying restartor get this guy away from this guy, but it's like every feud,everything happening here.You're just like, I wish they could take this guyand just haven't worked with someone else.Yeah.
01:38:04Every one of these son of a bitchies ought to be put in isolation.Just get everybody on the roster away from everybody else on the roster.Do you think if MJF retires, Jeff,that maybe he'll set up a new online store to sell wrestling goods and wrestling gearand maybe, uh,he'll find some call girls he could sell out?Well, I understand they've got to be in Canada.Hookers, what?
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01:43:20Shopify.I don't know about any of that,but Shopify's there for you one more time,Shopify.com slash JCE.Yes, that is it.Well, back to the land of Tony Khan, AEW Dynamite in Cincinnati.Oh, boy.They did a brief package on Okada and Ishi coming up.
01:43:47Did you hear the voiceover on this?Well, that's why I was going to mention it, because they had old sockface.It sounded like he was recording it in his hotel room at 2 a.m.And he didn't want to wake anybody up.And he was somed.and he was reading the copy for the first time ever.But otherwise not, it really got me hyped up for the match.When does that match take place?
01:44:07I don't know.And again, Okada and Ishi, who cares?Why? For what purpose?And they're going to do the same shit that they always, everything that Ishi does and everythingthat Okada doesthat we don't like to see individuallythey're going to do it togetherbut yeah
01:44:33I mean that's not even trying to beand I'm your manageryou know Gary Burbank or whateverthat was justyes and O'Connor will faceis she like they did last yearyeah that was the worst voiceoverI've heard this side of Chris Jericho
01:44:52that was terriblewell and he's not supposed tobe a professional andthere's no qualifications to be.And the other one isn't a professional.He's a goof.No, the other one's supposed to be a professional.Keyword of a possibly allegedly.
01:45:08Impersonating and?I don't know.All right.Should we talk about Christian and Hook?No.No one should watch this or talk about it is really my opinion.But go ahead.Boy, howdy.
01:45:18I got to, in the spirit of trying to help a young man,we were going to see Christian versus Hookwell Christian enters withNick Plain's mom she's right along with himand Hook jumps Christian on the ramp before they even getsand the ramp as I said was 50 feet longand they fight on the floorand Christian goes to the entrance way leaving
01:45:46and Hook brings him backand ithook needs to work on hisI don't know if you call him strikes or the punches and the chops.He has awkward shoulder and upper body movementwhere he puts you in mind more like he's trying to make an unnatural gestureand throw it and pull it rather than an actual real chop or punch or whatever.And I know maybe certainly somebody has said something to him before now.
01:46:24but he gets on and the the square footedness also when he's just hammering on somebody he'skind of hopping up and down he needs to be more fluid he needs to move a little smootherand and that would make his stuff look better maybe do a few less things and put moreemphasis into each of what you are doing but if his stuff looked better to the peopleit would be a better visual disguise to his still thinnessand lightness of weight and his greennessbecause you see guys that are still somewhat greenmoving in the square-footed, squared-off-shouldered manner that I'm talking about.
01:47:16And Christian, you know, is trying to do a lot of same thingsChristian's always done.But there was, you know,it was a fugging match.And finally,I got distracted,actually zoned out whatever,but I don't know what they did
01:47:36the last couple minutes, but Hook got the choke.And all of a sudden, Pip Sabian,and Nick Plain came in and got the disqualification.Remember when they wouldn't have a run inin a DQ on a pay-per-view main event that could haveto a rematch in the early days,but now they'll just DQ random TV matches.No bullshit finishes, no ref bumps.
01:47:56Those are the early days in AW.Well, that's before they found outthat they couldn't go without them.Then they do too many of them at the wrong time.Anywho,they start to get heat on hookand they got a couple of chairs.And actually, you said Kenny
01:48:13was the most over guy on the showand I will acquiesce to you that.But I think the highlight,moment got the biggest pop was when Taz stood upand was about to, I'm not going to let this happen.The people came up and then suddenly music hitand it was Samoa Joe's music. And then they went ballistic.And then again, Joe
01:48:42got the reaction of the night to me.He threw the heels around and the fans were channed Joe, Joe, Joe,and he beat up.and he shit-canned Nick.And then he heldPip and Shabbata was there for somereason. Shepoopeeand Shepoopee kicked
01:49:01him and the heelsbailed and the people went crazy forSamoa Joe. And how long has hebeen gone? It wasDecember of 23, wasn't it?Well, he beat MJF at World Zend, right? That was the beginning of the year.And then he lost the belt a few monthsafter that. It's been almost a year. Yeah, it's been a year.
01:49:21That's right. He was.won it in December of 23 and lost it notterribly long afterwards.We just said this about Omega and Don Callas,and we said it about MJF and Adam Cole.Wasn't Samoa Joe doing somethingwith a hook right before he left?They were friends, yes.
01:49:38And the choke and the, you know, the mentorship.Right back to that, all right.Well, they're trying to be consistent.They had now multiple guys from Omega to Samoa Joeshow up in the last few weeksthat the best thing for their business would bethem just instantly beating John Moxley,getting a monster pop.
01:49:56Yeah.And a restart with one of those two guysas the world champion.I'm sorry.That's the truth.And they ain't done it.And they ain't gotten that.All right,
01:50:06you son of a sea cook.What?You told me,oh, you got to watch the women's guys.I did not try to watch this program live.Because I nodded off on Raw.I would have probably gone into a coma.for this, it's not, I can't be up past 9 o'clock
01:50:24Eastern time at night.I'm too old.So I watched this the next day and you already say,well, watch the women's gauntlet.It's not that long.Oh, fuck, that's like saying the Batan death march wasn't that long.Oh, come by, compared to everything else on this showis relatively short.
01:50:41No, it wasn't.Only the height of the participants.No, there were some tall women in there, it seemed like.Well, no, there was.And that's another thing.you're going to have to identify for me who, well, hold on a second.They had a women's gauntlet match.And obviously people come in at random times apparently and it's, you know,
01:51:05it can end at any time like the announcer said.Well, it certainly could have.As far as I was concerned, I was in agreement with them.It could end at any time.But the first two were Chris Statlander and Jamie Hater,which last time I checked weren't those both baby facesbut they had to wrestle each other for however longuntil Stantlander gave Jamie a big move of some description
01:51:33and music played and here camewhat looked like a fuckingwhat was the female Vikings were the Valkyries rightshe's dressed in a goddamn headsetlooks like someBob Mackey 70 sharebusiness going on here.Megan Bain!
01:51:54And I'm like, who in thewide, wide world of sports isMegan fucking Bain?And apparently she isaforementioned, she's a Viking.We know by the way she dresses, but she'sfrom stardomin Japan.
01:52:11How come...At first, all the Japanese girls werefour foot nine, weight, 80,pounds andlook like, you know,Japanese fuckingAdrian's from Rocky.And now all the girls from Japan
01:52:27are six feet tall,English women, or Americanwomen, or Caucasian women,however you would term it,with long, fucking hairand big upper frontal protuberances.You know, she had a look.I mean, she was all right in the ring
01:52:45as best you could tell in a chaoticmatch like this.But she had a look.If you had someone like that you were bringing inand going to do something with,we just debut them like this?That's why I thoughtduring Stantlander and Hader
01:52:59the announcer's push,well, it could end at any timeof a pinfall, nobody else will get to come in.I thought Megan Bain, here she comes,look at this, Amazon.She's going to beat these other two upand they're going to put her overand nobody else, it's going to end, right?
01:53:14Oh, no.nothing ever ends in AEW, no program or nothing ever ends.She got in the ring and Hater was on the floor somewhere selling the one bump that Stantlander had given herand Megan Bain and Stantlander fight.Well now Stadlander is the biggest girl otherwise in a match so now immediatelyMegan Bain's size is somewhat normalized and she gave Stantlander a big moveand covered herand then Jamie Hayter saved.
01:53:47So then Stantlander rolled outand Megan Bain andJamie Hater fought.And thenhere's the problemthe longer thatMegan Bain went. At first you thoughtoh shit put her over now. Boom, new
01:54:03women's champion. Yeah, boom.And then the longer this wentthe more you're likemaybe not.She picks Jamie Hater up for a verticalsuplex and holds her, and thenit looked like they were tryingto do the spot where Jamie rolled through
01:54:19with a small package because she'd let herdown or lost herand then Jamietried to roll through, but MeganBain landed on her fucking headin the small packageand Jamie Haderjust rolled away and then Megan Bain rolled
01:54:35out of the ring.And in here came Julia Hart.So now a Haterjumped out on the rampstarted fighting Julia Hartand we went to the break and that was MeganBain's windowand the windowsill
01:54:51slammed on her knucklesbecause now she's one of the girlsso they came back and Willowand Willow was trying to fightwith Megan Bain and nowshe was kind of wanderinga bit Meganand they were fighting in the ring and on the floor
01:55:09at the same time as now's turned into a messand Tony Storm comes in,and now it's back and forth with all of them,and people dove off the stage.And then Harley Cameron,what in the world, Brian?Do you see in Harley Cameronfor this fine wrestling program?
01:55:32That's not what I said when I put her over to you last week.I didn't say she was fine for the wrestling program,although I did enjoy her here.I thought she did a good job with what they gave her.but she is a talented, good-looking woman.When I say talented, how many good-looking women in skimpy outfits do you know that are good ventriloquists?What?She is incredible as a ventriloquist.
01:55:55She could play guitar, she could sing.If I was managing her...Hold on, wait a minute.Just has anybody ever asked that question before?How many good-looking women and skimpy outfits are good ventriloquists?Exactly.If I was managing her, I would turn her into a national star.not wrestling get away from the wrestling but back away slowly from the wrestling exploiting everything else
01:56:18about her from her character to her ventriloquism it will focus on that exploiting everythingfrom her character to her honor to her integrity to her morals very talented woman very talentedthey would all be exploited if i had a talk show i would have her on at least once a month if i had aharley i'd talk her in the more no but see the problem is someonehas to write her skits. See, that's the thing. She has the ability, but someone needs to actuallybe able to write her act. So you just want her to be a mere puppet that you can just stickyour hand up her and make her do things? That is not what I'm saying. That is what she's saying.And that's not even what she's saying. That's what the dummy says. You can't see what she says.
01:57:01She's that good. Blame it on a dummy. She's that good. You big dummy, well, I'll tell you who the big dummy was.Julia HartAnd Paul WinchellAnd did you ever see Paul Winchell in skimpy clothing?Paul Winchell lived in Point LookoutSo I grew up hearing all aboutKnucklehead Smith and Jerry MahoneyDid you ever go up and ask Paul to throw his voice
01:57:24And if you did, did he throw you out?He was in the Three Stooges movieWhat was it?Stop Look and Laugh?Was that it?Yes, he was the hostThat's right.The compilation of fine stooge efforts.
01:57:37We are making all the 70sold listeners feel like kids again right now.Over here at the Alzheimer's home, they are rolling in a fucker.We're probably going to flatline some motherfucker over there.Well, he shouldn't have been listening to us on a ventilator.Folks, if you're intubated currently, please turn off the program.Julia Hart, this time, remember last week or whenever it was she spit,missed that nobody saw that the announcer's called and the girl sold,
01:58:07but that you couldn't see anything on anybody?apparently she somehow took a swig of a 16 ounce black food coloring and spit it in Harley Cameron's face.It colored her whole fucking head.And then when she did that, Tony Storm, small package Julia, one, two, three, and one the fucking thing.So, and thanks for coming, Megan Bain.Tony doesn't have to get people over.I mean, that's what it comes down to.She was in the middle of a seven-girl
01:58:45gauntlet match that she didn't winin her debut appearance.She came out, she looked terribly impressive,and... Then she looked terrible, and then she was gone.And then most parents were saying, what was her name?The girl that wore the headdress.Tony Storm versus Mariah Mae Grand Slam in Australia,which apparently would be available on Max, I believe.
01:59:07What are your thoughts on them going back to Tony Storm and Mariah May?Well, but it's not a grudge match anymore because Tony Storm doesn't remember Maria.Or she's saying that.This could be a performance by timeless Tony Storm.She's playing the role of a naive Tony Storm.To what purpose would...To get the title.To get the title?
01:59:30What about if she came back and said, I'm Tony Storm, I'm the former champion.You screwed me around.I want my rematch.Why does she need amnesia?The women's division needs some psychological games.Well, that was the first.women's gauntlet match aren't you glad you watched it yeah i'm going to talk to you off air aboutrecommending things to me here in a future it was better than what else was on the show well we're
01:59:55about to we're to the last thing right now poor poor will hobs poor house hobbs that's his newname poor house hobbs the last poor hobbs i knew him well horatio a man of infinitepossibilities.Here came Hobbs, and then here came Dick the Boozer with Marina Schaefer, and the arena was sosmall the idiot had to walk in from out on the sidewalk out on the street, in the snow.And at least he was wearing a little hoodie, but she was bare-shouldered.Could have caught her death of cold.And that was the only way they could get farther than 50 feet from the ring.
02:00:38They walked in the front door, and literally that was the gorilla position.and boom here you goanddoes anybody mentionthat are we tired yet ofSmiley Roberts and that ring announcinghe sounded on Moxley'sintroduction like he was giving a breach
02:00:55birthwhat more can you doyou can't make up for the factthat nobody gives a shit about a guyand there's no people in the building by screaminghis name and elongating itto the point where youpass out from oxygen deprivation.
02:01:14Is that an attractive part of the presentation to anybody at this point?If you remember, I got a lot of heat early in AEW when I suggested that never shouldhave hired him at the very beginnings.I said, he's not very good.It's just that he was on WWE for a while because Vince McMahon had a really not very goodprogram and he was the ring announcer.And they went with him.I wanted Dasha, if you remember at the very beginning to be the ring announcer.
02:01:36I thought she was better.Well, I think they should...And then she started forgetting everyone's name, and maybe she wasn't.I don't know.But they should, well, they can give her a card.They should dash back to Dasha.But anyway, so the main event is Hobbs and Moxley for the title,and Hobbs got the, won the match and the opportunity, I should say,
02:01:59to get this match.And then before the bell even rings, here's Pac and here's Claudio,and they're surrounding the ring and getting up on the apronand trying to get like they're going to get in the ringand the referee is staring at himand then he turns around and calls for the bell anywayand that's when Hobbs runsYeah, Moxley wasn't even in the ring when he called for the bell
02:02:23Yes, but he saw a cue apparentlySo he rings the bell with the heel fucking stoogeson the apron acting like they're about to get in the ringto where Hobbs runs at one of themand Moxley jumps Hobbs from behind.But then Hobbs comes right back.Moxley slumps in the corner,lets Hobbs beat on him,
02:02:48and then they went to the floor.And herein lies the problem.Hobbs is still not an experienced leader.Think about how often these guys work or don't workand how little they've used him,even though he's been there five years,and you don't see, you know, Powerhouse Hobbscompeting on a lot of independent shows.
02:03:11You don't see reports of that, I should say.So he needs a good worker and a good leaderto call the match for him and get him overbecause he has a lot of talent.And they need to set the pace until he gets more experience.And Dick the boozer ain't any of those things.Poor Hobbs may, and I'm sure he's a very nice,nice guy and a respectful youngster.
02:03:38He may think becauseMoxley's been into business and makes all thismoney that he knows what the fuck he's doingand unfortunatelyI bet you nobody in that company willpop that bubble for him.But theyfought into the arena and wandered
02:03:53through the fans and then came backto the ring where Hobbswas biting Moxley's earso they could go to the break when they come back fromthe break. Moxley has bladed hisear. Butis bleeding profusely.He's covered with blood from the fucking ear.
02:04:11And why did we need biting the earring out?And then they trade forearms.And again, a really experienced veteran that's overas a heel that could call a matchto accentuate Hobbs' strengthsand keep him on the right pace,don't let him rush, don't let him wilt.Those type of things, you got something here.
02:04:41But if Moxley's going to have him do all of this fucking goofy shit that Moxley likes to do,you've just, you've done damage.Hobbs picks Moxley up, he's standing on a second rope,and gives Moxley a power slam off the second turnbuckle.And when they landed, Moxley grabbed an arm submission.He'd sell a fucking power slam, this unprofessional,outlaw-lookingfucking prick.
02:05:10He looks like he ought to be digging a ditchon community service.And thenHobbs rolls out to the ramp.Moxley draws the referee's attentionand here comes Wheeler uselessout of nowhereand does the flying big knee
02:05:27to Hobbs on the ramp.But Wheeler took a bigger bumpthan Hobbs did.He splatted on that fucking hard service,popped right up and ran off.and then as soon as fucking Hobbs is rolled back in the ring he's spinebusters Moxley so why did this fucking morrow i just run out and fucking give me the big knee and the next thing that Hobbs does is offensive what the how is this and then Marina Schaefer hits Hobbs in the head with the briefcase and it staggers him and moxley schoolboys him and gets a two-countsand then Moxley hits him with his double-armed DDT and gets a two-count.And then Moxley got the choke on him and choked Hobbs out.
02:06:20They did this completely backwards.He should have hit him with his finish, the DDT.One, two, kick out.He should have got the choke.And Hobbs stood up underneath him.and was walking him across the ring.And when Hobbs got to the ropes,the referee made Moxley break,
02:06:43and then as Hobbs is catching his breath over the rope,Schaefer hits him with a briefcase.Down he goes.Then cover him, one, two, three.You fuck the baby face, you fucking morons.You just choked out a giant black monsterthat could fucking pick his teeth with youand leave the fucking remains for a goddamn,
02:07:06birdshe choke him out because you fantasizeit your goddamn ramboyou fucking baldingfucking moronithow can thishow can this be done
02:07:22and then all the otherboar horsemenjumped inand got fake looking heat on hobbsand took his knee brace offand hit the leg with a chairand then pilmanized the leg with a chairand then finally music played and here came edge and FTR they didn't wait till they amputated the leg
02:07:47they just shattered it and with the heels bailed out and the fans are like eh what took you so longso they again this 40 year old and he looks 10 years olderfucking delusional prick that is the wordpushed worker in a wrestling business today,choked out this giant monster guy that they could make a baby facethat people want to fucking like,and then they beat him up and crippled him.And again, too, if you're going to do this match,
02:08:36and they set it up last week,where they said that,apparently unbeknownst to us,John Moxley got him his job at AEW.and he's going to make John Moxley his bitch.We've been waiting for any baby face to say that,something like that, that attitude.We're still waiting for one to do it, though.
02:08:54And the match happens in John Moxley's hometown.It happens in the place most susceptible to cheering the heel.That's where they did the match.And then they choked them out.And they just did this.It's not the exact same thing.Big Bill just got choked out by Edgeto build up to, you know, him and Moxley could choke people.
02:09:14Right now, if you're asking me who I'm going to push,Powerhouse Hobbs or Big Bill or Cope and Mocks,I'm trying to find the way to get those other two guys overand do more with them.Yeah.And get Big Bill away from Jericho.Yes.Then this, choking out Powerhouse Hobbs killed him.
02:09:31It killed him.They have not done a single goddamn thing for the booking of Will Hobbs since he got there.He got there.He's like, wow, this guy's impressive.And then they made him a heel like, okay,they're trying to do something.They made him powerhouse Hobbs.That was it.
02:09:47That was the last momentthey ever did anythingfor this fucking guy.They made him Powerhouse Hobbs.Jim Ross kept calling him Willieon commentary, I think.Willie Hobbs, baby.But he was a heel.
02:09:59He was doing the stuff with Ricky Starks.And then, like, everything just has not,it's like two years now,just nonstop stupidity.They built him up.And even AEW fans were a little hopeful.because they want this moxley shit to end.And it's not ideal.
02:10:16I'm not saying you should be the world champion.Remember we talked about this a week or two ago that when Powerhouse Hobbs came back as a baby face,it was because his manager forgot about him and he was the baby face partner of the big baby face ricochet.That's right.And that was two months ago.So that's all worked out apparently.Terrible.Terrible.
02:10:40They,the fact that they're still going with this moxley shit.We'll talk later on about some of his quotes in the media the last few days.Oh, boy.That Tony Khan thinks this is good is astounding.This is some of the worst wrestling TV we've ever seen, ever.Oh, you can't compare it to WCW?Yes, I can.
02:11:02Yeah.I can compare this to the worst of T&A.I can compare this to the worst of WCW.I can compare this to the worst of WCWE.This is really bad TV.This is the worst modern TV.for any major wrestling company.I'll put it that way.
02:11:18Just terrible.The wrong guys get pushed.They went from pleasing their fans.Like you said, clean finishes, no ref bumps,athletic matches that in their own weird, led by Tony Conway,all kind of made sense in a weird way.You kind of had to stretch things.Now they have guys all over the place.
02:11:38The baby faces never win.We've had multiple pay-per-views nowwhere the baby faces lost almost every single match.and the crowd reactions and the crowd sizes and the crowd energywell and and also even after they lose those matchesthe heel still then jump on them and beat them up moreand nobody comes out to help most of the timebecause to see that's the problem Tony is the sounding board
02:12:00and Tony will never just come out and say I have no idea how someone gets heatI don't know how heat works he'll never say that he'll gooh yeah I've been reading a match this for so many years here's how you do ithere's what I used to do in my fucking message board here's what he doesn't knowanythingHe doesn't know anything about booking.It's just, it's amazing.Some people are like, oh, no, it's W.W.E.'s hot.
02:12:20No, it's that Tony's a fucking nincompoop when it comes to booking.Some people watch Mid-South wrestling and just focused on, wow, these matches are great.And those matches are great.Other people realized, man, the commentary was a major part of it.Those angles were so hot you had to see what would happen.And the promos.The finishes and the promos.All the things.
02:12:43that were important.None of that is applied here.I'm telling AEW is getting worse and worse.Even the people I like, they're starting to do worse and worse.I hate this.This fucking show.Meanwhile, Penta, who I've never liked,went and had the best match I've ever seen him, haven't ever,
02:13:00on Monday night, where he's the biggest baby-facedthat children are crying in the fucking crowd.It was his kids, though.If they didn't say that, I would have just thought this child's emotionalabout this scary demon man.It doesn't count unless it's other people.people's children who don't know you.But, oh, and people are mad at me.
02:13:18Because I said, it was, thank Chad Gable.And I said, Gable was the perfect opponent.Gable got his shit over, and some of it was still sloppy.But it's not that people say, oh, he doesn't like Mexican wrestlers.No, I don't like sloppy ones, a la Eddie Guerrero, Hector Guerrero.Hector got the fuck over with me in 1979.Ray Mysterio, back in the day, if we want to go Pure Luchero,Wasn't Negro Casas pretty fucking sharp?
02:13:47He's still pretty good.He's like 65 or something.Jesus Christ.Well, but I, you know, I remain to be fully convinced about old Penthouse.But we shall see.He did look much better, but that would be hard not to.Well, that was AEW Dynamite.Another big week, another big Cincinnati show.
02:14:07We'll see what happens the next time they go to Cincinnati.Maybe there's a barn.But Jim, let's talk about ratings, as I think,turn this piece of paper over. We have ratings for AEW Dynamite as I drop my pen makingnoise all over the place, ladies and gentlemen. You know, you're going to get in trouble for makingall that noise over there. I already am anticipated that's why I'm trying to give myself an out.Let's talk ratings, Jim. How you doing? Well, I'm doing pretty good ratings. How are you?I'm still trying to get this piece of paper over. Hold on here we go. The ratings.
02:14:34You can't turn a piece of paper over. You need to be exercising. I turned it. And then it turneditself over because of the wind from when I punched a table and thenAW Dynamite Jim yes January 15th January 15thin Cincinnati Ohio from 8 to 1007 p.m. on average679,000 viewers. Holy moly so they made up for having nobody there live byhaving an extra, what, 40 or 50,000 show up this week on television?Well, that's, hold on here a second.And while you're applauding, according to Russellnomics, this was up 10% from last week,
02:15:19which was 615, and 13% from the trailing four-week average, which is exactly 600,000.So do you think they're mounting a big comeback?I don't know.I think O'Kenni Omega came back.I mean, that's the one thing we could definitely say happened on this show, and Ithink he does cause a little bit more interest, but I also think they've had a stronger lead-in,right? For a while, wasn't the lead-in like getting lower and lower? And I feel like the last coupleweeks it got in higher. It was. Higher and higher. It's coming higher. I'm higher. Your lead-ins
02:15:52lifting me higher and higher. Now, Jackie Wilson is easy. Well, Jackie learned a lot from me.besides that, it does show that being on Max has not siphoned any of the cable viewers away,so they have alleviated those fears.Do we have any knowledge that anybody that wasn't watching before is now watching on Max,or is that yet to be determined?I have not heard anything public, but I also have not checked.I can check a little bit later on, but as I told you,I didn't think it was going to really be a factor one way or another.
02:16:29It's not Netflix where they're going 100% to for Raw.This is just a simulcast.This is another cable outlet if you really want to look at it another way.Yeah.So I don't think it's really doing anything.And again, I don't know if the archive's doing too much either.Let's go to these quarterly numbers.These were compiled by WrestleMania.
02:16:52And it says, by the way, doesn't include viewership on Max.So this is not including Max numbers.Well, we figured that.We never thought it would be.Quarter 1, 8 to 8.15 p.m.Kenny Omega versus Brian Cage with picture and picture.831,000 viewers.Ooh, that's bigger than they've been in a while.
02:17:17We go to quarter two, the continuate, 815, 8.30 p.m., excuse me.The continuation of Omega versus Cage, the post-match with Osprey, Fletcher,Archer, and an ad break, and the Chris Jericho promo,703,000 viewers.Oh, okay.Well, because the end of the Omega match came in quarter two,but there was still more stuff, and boy, Jericho will run people off like nobody's business,but it doesn't look promising that they lost 128,000 people before.
02:17:59before Kenny's match was over with,or right about the timeKenny's match was over with?Well, we go to quarter three,8.30 to 8.45 p.m.The Rickashay live promo,and Dangle with Sorb Strickland and Prince Nana,the Mercedes Monet video,
02:18:19and the start of the Hertz Syndicateversus Mark Briscoe and the privateswith picture and picture.683,000 viewers.And there goes another 20,000.They're down now to within 4,000 of their average,so we know that they've got further to fall.But, holy mackerel, maybe they should have handled those privates a little quicker.
02:18:44We go to quarter four, 845 to 9 p.m.The continuation of the Hertz Syndicate versus Briscoe and the privates,an ad break, and the start of Jeff Jarrett and MJF's live promo,649,000 viewers.Oh, good Lord!This is also the low point in the key demo.It went from 234 to 212.Well, they've almost got to pick some up
02:19:11at the top of the 9 o'clock hour Seg 5,which would still be mired right in the middle of theMJF and Jeff Jarrett character assassination segment.But just that they're down this far, this quick,ought to be somewhat disheartening. What is quarter five?Quarter five is the big nine o'clock hour.Nine to nine to nine, fifteen p.m.The continuation of Jared and MJF Live,
02:19:37the Hook v. Christian Cage match with picture and pictures, at least the start of it,675,000 viewers.Key demo bounced back up to 246.So that probably can be attributed pretty much to MJF, but now it's 26,000.viewers and less than that but still something in there or maybe about that in the key demoit's one of those things you worry about when a lot of people see something or you know a goodamount of people see something that may not be the like it's done i think like almost 300,000views on youtube so far but it's like do you want is that the video you want people to watch
02:20:17you know what I mean but we go to quarter and the problem is also just the MJF effect is notthere like it used to be where he could instantly command a bunch more people topay attention because of all of this folder all that's going on. Go ahead. I'll go back towhat we said months ago. MJF should only be working with top guys. And JeffJared has not been used as a top guy. We can't treat him like a top guy. He's a close to 60 years old.So, I mean... Hey, watch out now. It's the same problem. He's only 54. Oh, okay. I thoughthe was... He turned pro in 19. Well, hold on. 86? He turned pro in 19. Well, hold on. 86? He turnedTurn pro in 1986, but when he started refereeing, had he turned 18 yet?
02:21:02But he's born somewhere around 1969, which would make him 56 this year, but I can'tremember when his birthday is.55.You'll defend him over anything.I said 57.Don't make him 60.Well, Jim, we go to where are we?Quarter 60.
02:21:20Six.It's quarter six.It's 9.15 and 9.30 p.m.it's Christian versus Hook continuedand the post matchwith Samoa JoeA Casino Gauntlet recapan ad break
02:21:35and Jeff Choward and Dustin Rhodesin the back642,000 viewersand there's our low points so far and we gottwo more quarterswe're going out of quarter 7930 to 945 p.mthe women's casino
02:21:55gauntlet matchwith picture and picture673,000 viewersHoly shit, what an insult to Seg 6that they got 30,000 extra peopleto watch that women's messAlso the high point of the key demo, 265How many of them were males?
02:22:15Listen, I'm all for at this pointtrying things, make the entire showWomen's Gauntlet, just two hours of women's gauntletand let's see what kind of damage you could do to the business.Let's go to quarter eightI remind you, seven minuteoverrunQuarter eight, nine, 45 to 10 p.m.
02:22:33An ad breakand the start of Powerhouse Hobbsversus John Moxleywith picture and picture606,000 viewers.Oh, good Lord.Seven minute overrun, continuation of the matchand then the post match with FTR and cope
02:22:51611,000 viewers.And that was supposed to be impractical jokers this week, instead of modern family.And it was after this.And it was impractical jokers.The world championship match is by far the lowest rated portion of the program.And that's an accomplishment.Bravo!Boozer?
02:23:18Yeah, I'd say the interesting things here are once again, because it's not a new thing.John Moxie and the Death Ride is.drive-off viewers and no one's coming back to see them.You have a problem. You have a world champion. People don't want to watch.The women's match, a big surprise there. It popped both numbers, the key demo and the overall number.The MJF Jeff Jarrett thing got a big improvement in the key demo number, but that's probablythe best thing you could say about that. And at least the biggest audience, I guess,we're there to see Omega do his moves with Brian Cage. Well, but they didn't see all of them.
02:23:52That's true.quarter two they'd lost a bunch but again maybe they they hung on for three or four minutesand then everybody just turned it off i don't know every wrestling show is different obviously butwhat do you think about starting a show with a long match versus a shorter match and getting apromo or just something else so you have more things in the first quarter well it again it's it's notany formula it's what do we have if you've got stone cold steve austin and mr mcmand in the dayyou'd just give them 15 minutes, first quarter, or whatever.They'll talk, it'll be better.
02:24:27But sometimes you might want to start off with a hot match,but you don't want to make it, you know, last a half an hourunless it's a match that's going to go.You know, in the old days, the hour,it would be most of an hour or whatever.There's all kinds of different ways to do it,but with this program, no matter what they do,they can't keep the audience they start with.
02:24:52They never do.So I don't blame them for wanting to put one of the bigger things that they want people to see on first.But at the same time, they can't let that go on forever while you got that big audience at the start,get the point across, and get somebody else out there that may be able to hook them too,and maybe you can keep a few of those.I don't know.again this is a unique problem in my time in wcw or w w w f or wassmoking about wrestling on a local or ovw on a local broadcast level or just the ratings
02:25:34that we report on now with the wwee you never had a wrestling program that lost20 30 40 percent of its audience from start to finishIt just didn't happen.And this is an odd thing.And so I don't really know how you format around this.Well, that was the ratings.And now we will see how we format around this.We'll be right back after this short timeout.
02:26:06All right.We are back.A short timeout.We had to talk to station management.There was a lot going on here in the house.I understand.They were trying to drop turkeys for a Thanksgiving promotion.But we stopped.
02:26:19that. Were you a big fan of WKRP? I love WKRP in Cincinnati. Lani Anderson? What was there not to love? Dr.Johnny Fever? Herb Tarlick. Les Nesman. What a cast. What a crew. What a show.You know, and a lot of people haven't seen it because it was tough to see for a lot of years. It may still be because of the music rights issues.Because they used real music on that show. Well, they could dub it over with stuff from thework, couldn't they? We'd still see the comedy and frivolity.What do you think of the Midnight Express music they use?Oh, I don't even know what that shit is, but it's obviously allpiped in because it mutes some of the crowd noise and et cetera.
02:27:05And, you know, I think everybody realizes they've, you know, it's a bad edit to coverup shit they don't have the rights to play.Then we didn't have the rights to play, but by God, we played it anyway and we liked it.See, that's the thing.talks about you going into theWWW.E Hall of Fame, the conversation becomes,who should induct them? Should it beSam Punk or should it be Paul Heyman?
02:27:27No one ever says, Georgio Moroder.Push him out on stage, let him talk aboutthis song that he didn't get a cent for the use of.Yeah, and he can cuss us and everything.Casablanca Records could get in on it.Oh, no, they're out of business.Well, somebody owns the intellectual property, don't they?What's, where's old Neil, Neil Bogart?
02:27:49is he these days.Neil Bogart.He died in like 1982,1983?Well, see,that's why we got away with it.And then he lost Casablanca by that point.Didn't he start another label,
02:27:59boardwalk?I don't know.I think after he lost Casablanca,he started Timbuktu.All right.Well.Okay.My attempt to steal a drink of water
02:28:10in between all that.Yeah,quick banter.Let me talk for five minuteswhile you just drinkand have a fucking banquet over there.eat your pitted prunes.Jim, I have a press release, January 16, 2025.
02:28:28WW and TNA wrestling announced multi-year partnership,NXT superstars and TNA wrestling starsto appear across weekly WWE and TNA programming,WWE Premium Live Events, and TNA pay-per-views.So let's stop there to talk about the headlines.and of course, TNA has paper views coming upas we talked about a few weeks ago.Los Angeles and New York
02:28:56makes a little more sense now, doesn't it?Well, maybe, maybe not still yetbecause it depends on the talent crossing overthe way it was worded.I get the idea that it's going to be NXT talent.Yes.And I'm not against this concept or this dealbecause it's the same kind of thing.
02:29:18Vince worked with Memphis and Smokey Mountain Wrestling in the 90sbecause we were not ever going to,we're not designed to try to take business away from him.We weren't going for national advertising.We weren't trying to do pay-per-view.But it was a place where he could get talentand potentially have a pipeline.If we help them out, then we can get their guys,
02:29:44which they did from us.They got Lawler and Jeff.and a couple other people from Memphis,they got a lot of people from us.And it's same kind of thing with OVW.It was designed more as a wrestling school slash territorywith a local television than an actual regional territory.But it was somebody that they could work together with
02:30:12because we weren't trying to compete with pay-per-view,national advertising, blah, blah, blah.with TNA, I think they have proven that whether you like them or not,they're not trying to put the WWE out of business,nor would they be capable of doing so.But they do have the capability to sign for decent money,some talent that could be developed later on for the WW.So instead of those people potentially being on the market to go to AEW and being
02:30:46wasted and not available to them.They're saying, hey, we'll do business with T&A.And if there's an official relationship, we'll get, I would assume, first crack,first pick at anybody that we would want that comes through their system.And at the same time, the reason they're still in business is because the parent companybought them for programming for their television network, access, which is the samekind of deal that Sinclair did with Ring of Honor.But, you know, I think it benefits the W.W.E. in terms of getting access to young talent that
02:31:29they may potentially find and some they've already got there. And also, it starts setting upa defense for the independent contractor, antitrust, monopoly, however you want to phrase it,defense that might be necessary at some pointof future without givingany legitimatecompetition, anyammunition, and we know whothe, maybe I ought to call
02:31:56him illegitimate competition.One guy's got a lot of fucking moneythat he's willing to spend.We don't want to fucking be beholdento him because he's a fucking nutand he don't know how the business worksand he's fucking everything up.So we'll bolster
02:32:12the smaller groupsthat don't want to get in our wayand help everybody.Well, the other thing, too,I said this a few weeks back, it cuts off the pipelineanother pipeline for Tony Kahn.And remember, he had that relationship first.I mean, they existed first,
02:32:31but when he started up AEW,pretty quickly they had the relationship with TNA.Don Callis was with TNA.Scott DeMore was running TNA.Remember?And it was even weird,because Tony was doing like promoswith him and Chivani running down TNA.
02:32:47Yes.And then Omega was there.And then that relationship ended and now look at this.I think Don and a few other people were just looking at a way to get to fuck out of thereand work for the billionaire that had deeper pockets.But it's going to be good for T&A because, as I said,it still may be a chore for them with somebody from NXT exclusively to fill these big buildingsthey're talking about running in New York and Los Angeles.
02:33:14we thought they had to have something besides what they normally have, and they apparently havethat now.Well, let's get a little bit from the press release.That isn't just verbatim what I read before is the headline.Here's a quote from Alliel Schnare, the senior vice president of content and distributionfor TNA wrestling and Anthem Sports and Entertainment.Remember when it was just Tutsmont promoter?This historic relationship demonstrates that collaboration.
02:33:44and competition do not have to be mutually exclusive.Our partnership allows the TNA wrestling brandand its incredible athletesto reach a significantly wider audiencewhile giving W.W.E and NXT starsan opportunity to cross the lineand gain value.You've gone too far now.
02:34:09You've gone too far now.You went to TNA.All right, when we go back, they will cross the line and gain valuable experience as they join forces with one of the most talented rosters in professional wrestling today.Again, this was something that AEW needed more than WWE in terms of having another company with other wrestlers that you could funnel in and out.Former T&A knockouts champion Jordan Grace and Joe Hendry frequently appeared on NXT programs.last year, and manyNXT superstars alsocross the line
02:34:51into TNA wrestling,including Wesley's short-livedreunion with the rascals.Short-lived with the rascals,and they just couldn'thit the notes on Good Lovin.Yeah, Felix dropped out pretty early on thatfrom what I understand. Charlie Dempsey
02:35:08and the no-quarter catch crew,Riley Osborne,Dante Chen.GallusArianna GraceTatum PaxleyIzzy DameHe wants in a worst fucking name
02:35:25Izzy A I ZZIDameIzzy DameIzzy a dameIs he a dameWendy Chewand Brinley Reeseand more
02:35:38So I don't know if Brindley Reeseis going to pack them in in New Yorkat L.A.But it's a step in the right direction for these fine, fine business organizations.We applaud them.You know, there are people that say that one of the reasons the AWA was so importantwas Vern Gagne, who had been an NWA guy, NWA United States champion when it was treatedas a, as the top title, that, yeah, he didn't get the NWA title, but also him being
02:36:10cooperative with them and owning such a large territory and such a large country and such alarge part of the country with Wally Carbo,it destroyed the argument of antitrust.Yeah.Of a monopoly.And that is that.Well, that's what I was saying earlier is that they are also at the same timewhen they let one of the guys that wants to do that type of thing go and work,
02:36:36you know,an independent show or they're working with TNAs and other promotions.They're getting the benefits that.they want to get out of the deal, but also they're laying a potential future defense for,no, we're not a monopoly and we're not, there's no antitrust.And they are independent contractors where they get to work for these other people.So that figures into it also.Jim, a bunch of the listeners have sent over several different articles from different places,
02:37:07all centered around and they open one of these.Action Bronson.I don't know if you remember Action Bronson.Wait,Action Bronson was one of thecelebrities that they haddo a match in AEW at one point.Well, he does Hooks theme music.
02:37:26Okay.Entrance music, theme music.Like, he's Batman.Yep.His entrance music.Well, he's got a hook signal.That's right.But he did the hooks in the song.
02:37:37Action Bronson.And he was the one,he was bigger than all the boysand fucking, it was, handled himself pretty well from what I remember.And that was a local show, local.I mean, it was a New York show and he's a New York guy.Here's some quotes.He was on the Ariel Hawani show.
02:37:56That's usually where trouble starts.Every time someone's on that show.Here's the quote.Asked if he wanted another match.He was dismissive.And then he said, you know what they do?They don't call you back.I never got called back.
02:38:13There was an angle there.I'm ready right now.I'm ready for whoever.Oh, my God.Ariel asked him...Now, he thinks he can come in and be a contender.Harry, Ariel asked him if he liked being backstage at AEW.At first he said yes, and then here's what he said.
02:38:32Actually, no.I enjoy the act.I don't like the...The backstage is weird over there.It's just weird.it was just like everyone's clicky.You could tell it was weird vibes.So...
02:38:49Wow, even the novices can kind of pick up on this shit.If you have a celebrity, and we've seen this time after timein just the last few years alone with WWA,if you have a celebrity that really wants to be a part of it,you end up using them, it kind of works,they're over and they're willing to do moreand they set up an angle?You don't call them, you ghost them too?
02:39:17Well, well, but hold on.Like they're jelly and a tella?But hold on here now because this guy also sounds like he's there.Well, I'll go in there and, you know,I can have a pay-per-view match with so-and-so.We don't know how he was to deal with.And I'm not trying to defendby any means the talent management skills
02:39:38and etc of the AEW company as a whole over therebut does this guy sound likedoes he realize it was kind of a giftbecause he's a celebrityor does he think he's ready to be a championship wrestler?I don't know, but again, bad bunny.Yeah, but I remember bad buddy being better than bad Bronson.But we didn't know that.
02:40:01You know what I mean?That's a case of someone who was a wrestling fanand WWE embraced itand he ended up really involved for a while there.I'm sure he'll be back at some point.But you can tell.You can not only if you work the guy out just to see where he's at physically,but attitude-wise and the way he...
02:40:18But you've got to have a professional organization in placebefore you can expect the amateurs to come inand understand what the protocol is.I have some things here from the Observer website article on this,but there's no actual quote.In his lone match in September 2020,as part of Rampage Grand Slam.It wasn't even on Dynamite.
02:40:38on Rampage Grand Slam,he teamed with Hookagainst Matt Menard and Angelo Parker.During the interview at Ariel Hawani,he intimated, he wanted to do more in the match,but that his opponents didn't want to take some of his offenselike a top rope splash.Oh, okay.
02:41:00Or a face buster.Oh, yeah, well, hey, come on bust my face, Bronson.See, that's what I'm talking about.about these, because it's such aHey Kids, let's put on a showatmosphere, these peoplethink they can come in and I'll do this and thatbecause it's all, you know, and I'm sorry
02:41:19but a lot of guys, even some of these guys from theIndies don't want a 280 pound fat fuckthat's never wrestled before to jump off the top ropeon their fucking bodies.Well, Bronson, a big wrestling fan, said he trainedI'm sure he is.Said he trained for eight weeksfor the match at Arthur Ashe State.
02:41:38in Queens, New York, with Taz and Hook.Okay, and by the way,guys used to train longer than eight weeks in OVWto get on the show at the flea market,and this guy trained for eight weeks to be at the Arthur Ash Stadium.On television.He said he was in the ring for two to three days a week,and he was training on the off days,
02:41:59and that MJF even showed up on some days.He 100% wants to wrestle again,and that if he gets the call for a big show,he's there.How old is this guy?He also intimated he would wrestle for WWEand mention fellow musicianand occasional WWE wrestler Bad Bunny
02:42:17as an opponent.Okay, so maybe this guy's justsaid of his own angles all over the place.That's what I'm saying.Bunny versus Bronson, book it now, baby.I don't know.I get gas from all these people.Did you ever have that happen to you?
02:42:34You leaned in a little bit to someonewho was a local celebrity.or just a celebrity or anyone like thatand they got too close, they wouldn't leave?You know what I mean?Yes.Yes.There was one here in Louisville.
02:42:47It was an attorney that was the son of an actually well thought of attorney,but the son was nuts.And but he had a sheriff's deputy or he was some law enforcement official.I don't want to misquote it now.That had kind of, I think, had some intimate.knowledge of wrestling on a limited basis and, oh, this guy can sell a bunch of tickets andwe could do this and that because the lawyer was a Mark 2, so I put him on a show and they wantedto, the lawyer wanted to tackle the cop afterwards and do something.
02:43:22I said, no, you can't do anything to look like shit, don't.So he did it anyway, and it looked like shit.He tackled the guy and fell off him and they did some phony-ass bullshit.When he got back, I was screaming, cussing at him.and he was standing there slack jawed like I can't believe somebody's talking to me this way I say you fucking idiot you fucking exposed to the goddamn entire business we said don't do anything physical what the fuck I said I'm gonna walk over here when I come back don't be here I'm gonna fucking kill you and I turn around and left I think one of the boys said I think he's serious and he got mad and fucking left but the guy and the cop wasn't a bargain because he had his own entrance music on it because he had his own entrance music on it because he's serious and he got mad and fucking left but the guy and the cop wasn't a bargain because he had his own entrance music on it becauseset or a CD, whatever the format was then, years ago, he brought it in, and even had a voiceoveron the entrance music.What?
02:44:16He is here.He has arrived.Officer Yancey, I've kept this.I kept this CD.He is the law enforcement officer of the year, and he served on this thing, and he is here, he is here,and he has arrived.God damn it.I'm like, we sold 250 tickets, but fuck.
02:44:41Anyway, that was that was that.Yeah, what was your question?I'm sorry, he has arrived, got me.He has arrived.And he is here.He did both.He arrived and got here.My question was about guys who got very close to the business and wouldn't leave.
02:44:57Well, there, there you go.There was one of them.All right.Well, Jim, let's get another.He left after I cussed him.Let's get another, uh,question here, Jim, speaking of people won't leave the business. Have you been following theTony Con, Kevin Kelly, well, it wasn't even a back and forth, it was really just Kevin Kelly
02:45:14tweeting out about Tony Con. Well, I saw something to this nature, but filled the fans in andme at the same time on the exact quote and refresh me. I believe first was this quote. Now,this is a weird thing because I have not read up on this or asked anyone or followed it at all.So with that caveat, we're going to give our expert analysis.With that said, there's something going on with Corey Graves in WWE, and I don't know.Okay, well, I know this, yes.I don't know what parts of work and what part is Corey Graves needing a timeout,or I don't know what's going on.
02:45:49And then there's other people saying he's having a mental health thing,so then you feel like, oh, he's having that, I really feel bad,but I don't know what, I don't know, because then there's people say it's an angle.But in the middle of that.He seems to be a sharp young man that would be a,good self-promoter and probably unless he was ready to go and go somewhere else he wouldn'tmalign the company to any great degree. I have to say I was not a fan of his in his lesbianMax Hedroom days, but he has gotten better and I actually think his work lately has been the best
02:46:19work he's done. But Kevin Kelly tweeted out, put me and Corey Graves together at the desk.Corey would become the biggest commentary star in wrestlingbecause I would actively try to get him over.Let his star shine.So let me stop it there, because again, that's not directly about AEW,but it's more about, I guess, the philosophy of a commentator.What are your thoughts on that?Well, there has to be a partnership, teamwork,
02:46:49between the play-by-play guy and the color guy,whether it was Gorilla Monsoon and Bobby Heenanor Jim Ross and Jerry Lawleror myself and Jim Ross,any commentary duo, Vince and Jesse.The play-by-play guy, the host, the straight man,can't just disregard or shit all overor not go to his analyst and ask questions.
02:47:18There has to be back and forth.And if a good play-by-play guy with experience knowsokay, my color guy, he's good at this type ofcommentary or this type of thingor extrapolating in this area, but he's not really good on,I don't know, you know, the nuts and bolts of that or whatever,you'll pitch more of the stuff the guy can be entertaining at.You see what I'm saying?
02:47:43Gorilla was setting up some of Bobby's lines.So there needs to be...That's why Jesse Ventura didn't work in WCWand he worked in WWE because the interplay with a gorilla...Boom.sooner or Vince McMahon was much different than with the Jim Ross.Yes, because it was two different.First of all, Jesse's style was made for the WWF.
02:48:05That's where it was made, and it was made for that.WCW had a different presentation.JR and Jesse didn't particularly, to me, have personal or professional chemistry.But it's different context, different teams, different presentations.but on a level playing field,the play-by-play guy tries to work with the color guyso he can be entertainingbut still telling the stories,
02:48:32calling a match, disseminating the information,but you play to the guy's strengths,and because the play-by-play guy is usuallythe first one you hear on the program,the last one you hear before they go to a break,the first one you hear coming back from a break,he's the framework.So if he monopolizes it,
02:48:51and never goes to the color guy, or, you know, whatever, then, yeah, so I see what he's saying there.Hopefully, I've explained it right.Well, that tweet apparently caused someone named Kenny Jones, not the former drummer of theWho and the faces and the small faces, to tweet out.Yeah, after he got that glandular condition, his face really enlarged.It annoys me how AEW screwed you over and was so fun listening to you and Nigel together.At least they had someone calling the in-ring productInstead of telling us
02:49:26We'll be in bum-fuck ArkansasTickets on sale SaturdayWhat a monumental maneuverErgKevin Kelly retweeted thatAll I wanted to do was call wrestlingNever in my wildest dreamsDid I think I'd have to listen to a stuttering son
02:49:47Of a billionairefeeding me lines and then correcting himself and telling me I was doing great.They waited until I had a mental breakdown to fire me.Oh boy, well, that's pretty stiff.And can you imagine, I didn't even think that that was a possibility that Tony Kahn would bein the announcer's headsets telling them how to announce the wrestling.What do you think is telling Chavani every stupid thing he says?Oh, my God.
02:50:23So that tweet, I'm sure, landed well with the land of Lilliput.Well, that's been the first thing we've heard from Kevin Kelly in a while.And the first thing is saying the stuttering son of a billionaire, saying something and then correcting himself.Vince wasn't doing, Vince was just yelling things.He wasn't saying, stop, I got it wrong.I'm sorry.He never corrected himself.Even if you said, I just said that about 30 seconds ago, Vince, well, say it again.
02:50:47make sure to reiterate it.Actually, it looks like another person jumped in.This is Jose Marrero.Oh, Jose has an opinion.I understand why you thought it would be a good opportunity,having not met the guy,but I'm sure within weeks you saw what a disorganized mess that company is.To which Kevin replied,
02:51:08yeah, it took one day.No production meeting.Formats at 6 p.m. for a 7 p.m. start.Oh, my God.Now you obviously have more experience with wrestling production than any of us.Is that typical thing?No production meeting formats an hour before live broadcast?No way, you hear the stories all the time that Vince would, you know, tear stuff up at the last minute, rewrite it or whatever,
02:51:36and here's the new segment six or whatever, but not just no formats at all until 6 o'clock,and no production meeting never happened.now I've heard thatmaybe in thedying days of WCWthey were handing out hour 3during hour 1 or whateverbut no
02:51:57production even with anOVW television orRing Vaugh TV or anythingwith a minusculebudget compared to what they're doingif I had toI would say 30 minutes beforeBell get to fucking director out of the truck
02:52:14I need the camera guys, I need my audio guy, I need all the referees,and sit them down here, we're going to run through this fucking format.Usually, especially Ring of Honor when we were taping three and four shows in one night,we would do it at 1, 2 o'clock in the afternoon.And Vince is usually at 11 o'clock pay-per-views, 12 o'clock TV tapings in the day.but the idea that you never got the crew together to read through the formatnot only maybe that's why they pitch to the wrong thingsor the audio on a pre-tape doesn't come through to the house
02:52:55or the mic's not live or all the other thingsbut that's where all the various departments ask questionsyou can't just say well they magically appear at a Partridge family busokay what door are they coming through how long is my camera cable do we have god damn a light overthere we might have to there there are multiple departments that need to know how they'regoing to bring this to life the last production meetings i did were the n w a shows when theyfirst they did the studio taping infamously down in atlanta and they were using some guys that werenot terribly experienced in doing a live-to-tape television production.
02:53:46So that's why they had me in the production meetingsbecause I would try to ask the questions on their behalf.If I raise me, for audio purposes,when this guy interrupts, is he got his own micor is he picking one up or is it going to be live?What's the cue?Or for timing purposes,how much time do these guys need to execute this?
02:54:09before we're drastically over timeor whatever department it might be,let's see if we can figure outwhat might go wrongbefore it's in front of peoplebased on the reading of the television format.Does that make any sense to you?It certainly makes sense to me.
02:54:31So again, the idea...Or you can just go out there and okay, start shooting it.What?I would have guessed that it's hard to hit your timesif you don't have this all figured out.Well, they get overruns, so what the hell?Jim, let's get a few questions.This was sent via the Cult of Cornett Facebook group
02:54:53by Dallas Nelson.What does Jim think of the career of abyss?He definitely had a lot of highs and lows over the years.Where would Jim rank him as far as monster gimmick goes?Oh good LordI'm not going to answer even thateven attempt to answer that questionbecause then we'd have to go back
02:55:16Well monster heel let's start withGod damn man mountain DeanWhatever the fuckBut no I thought he was a tremendous talentI thought the abyss gimmick was a good gimmickThe first time that I saw himWas on the Ring of Honor shows he was doingBefore I ever went to TNA
02:55:36Or maybe before he went to TNAone of the other when I first started with Ring of Honorwas that 2004-5-ish whatevermaking a few shotsbut I thought for his size he could movewell and he had fluidityand his shit was safe at least to other peoplethe big backbreakers and the big
02:55:59spinning Bubba slam the black hole slamand you knowa very nice guyand I think I've toldthis story before, but it's been several yearsat least, but the problem becamethatI think he
02:56:15thought very highly of Mick Foley,mankind, Cactus Jack,as did we all.Sometimes people thoughtthe Abyss gimmick with thatmask was kind of a mankindish thing,but since Abyss'sstyle was totally different,
02:56:32that didn't bother me, but what hedid was hecouldn't, he made it toT&A and was making good money and was working with legitimate professionals in the samecompany was staying and Kurt Angle and Jeff Jared, etc.He couldn't get out of the outlaw indie garbage match bullshit mindset.That he wanted to have the thumb tax and he wanted to have the Monsters Ball Match.And one time when they brought, God damn, what was his name, from Puerto Rico, Judas
02:57:04messiaswho wasanother namein Puerto Ricobut he was aPuerto Rican talentthat came fromunder the ring
02:57:14dumped out abag of brokenglass and wasslicing upAbyss's armsin the fuckingstudio atUniversal Studios
02:57:24in Orlandowith all thepark goers and thekidsand Abysswas blading hisfucking armsand you could
02:57:32tell that hewas really cutYou didn't necessarily know how it was happening, but it was great.And I'm like, what the fuck?If we don't get kicked off Spike TV, we might get kicked out of Universal, but why would you do this anyway?The fans were just sitting there going, ugh, ugh.Because it was so indie garbage wrestling bullshit.And at one point, they gave Abyss, I think it was six months, it was an extended period of time off television,
02:58:04because he'd been taking bumps off the stage.He had been thrown into thumbtacks.He had done, his arms were carved up with broken glass,all this barbed wire bullshit.There was nothing left to do to him.But Jeff and Dutch, everybody liked him so much,and there was a talent in there.And, of course, they were letting him do too much,
02:58:26but he would do too much in the parameters they gave him.So they gave him time off television to refreshhim and bring him back new, and I swear to God.It was either the first or second TV taping after they'd brought him back fresh from thebreak that he had, that somebody threw him off the stage, through a table while it wason fucking fire.And he caught fire a little bit in the process.And he always said, well, what'd you think?
02:59:00After I said, I think you fucking didn't learn anything.I think, what the fuck?you justthey give you time offso you can come back freshbecause you had done everything to yourselfand now you've just set yourselfon fucking fire.
02:59:13So he was very savant-likein that he could rememberthe order of a match.That's when I saw a guystart actually calling the entire matchbefore they got in the ring.Where they'd call it practically move for move.I'm like, how the fuck do they remember this shit?
02:59:31When did this start?But he can remember all.this shit. He can remember other people's shit. He became an agent.But he just,I think in another company besides TNA, becausehe was a victim of shitstains creative, who likedall that kind of shit and encouraged him to do more of it, so they can havelast rights matches and
02:59:53fucking cool visuals, because Russo thoughthe was going to win some kind of Emmy back then.In the WWE,with a push and being produced as a modern day type of mankind,his work in the ring physically,he could have been a huge fucking star.And then I guess they made him a twin brother of himselfand he became a fucking lawyer or an accountant
03:00:19or a goddamn stockbroker or something.You know, that's pretty much it for Abyss, unfortunately.But now he's behind the scenes somewhere doing something.I forget where he is.WWE.That's, there you go.I believe, yeah.Well, maybe now he's calmed down.
03:00:35Does that surprise you?Is that surprise you?Oh, I'll let you go to your thing before you get to my question.What did he do to sting?He stabbed sting in the face.Because they had that goofy, because Rousseau not only went on the,he thought he could book wrestling, but then he went on the religious delusion where he thoughthe's a Christian, right?
03:00:54He's born again and he praises God and Allah and all the other people up there in thesky, on the clouds.And so he descended because Sting is Christian,we were looking everywhere for half of our main eventsat a goddamn pay-per-view one time on location,not even in Orlando.It might have been St. Louis.Me and Dutch looking everywhere.
03:01:13Where's the goddamn main event?Where's all of them?They were having a religious servicewith Craig Jenkins and Sting and a bunch of the religious,a bunch of the religious folks up in some meeting room in the buildingat 3 o'clock on a Sunday afternoonwith 7 o'clock bell time for a pay-per-view.I said, can they fucking go to church in the morning on their own time?
03:01:35We got to lay this shit out and it don't make any sense anyway.But nevertheless, so they have the last rights match where Sting versus Abyssand they've got the ring tricked out where they have fake Liberacei candelabras on the corner ring postsand they had the platform.I think they even had a fog machine where you would have to put.put your opponent on the platform and then he would be raised to heaven.That'd be how you'd win the match.And the guy had the last rights.
03:02:08I don't fucking know.That's where the fire Russo chance started.And that's when God damn Russo managed to convince Dixie that the fireRusso chance were about shit that he didn't have the idea of.You think Dutch Mantel said, let's get some candelabras on the corner post and do a religiousthemed match where the guythat loses descends to heaven.You fucking lying sack
03:02:33of shit. Usends, not descends.Well, no, this was adissent.So anyway,they worked a fucking spotwhere Sting shoots Abyssinto the fucking cornerand he's going to give him the Stinger splash
03:02:49and Abyss reaches back and grabs the candleobber and when here comes Sting he's going to whackhim over the head with it.Well, that cheap plasticprop bullshit that they'd got it broken at stab stig in the faceit like a puncture wound and a cutI can't remember which side of his eye it was on but it was likemaybe a quarter a third of an inch from his fucking eye
03:03:15and as soon as they and then they're chanting fire Russo in the crowdand then when sting got backfirst thing he did was go to the mirror to find outhow disfigured he would beand whether or not that he had indeed lost his eyebecause the blood he couldn't fucking see.Because this fucking moronis, oh, let's have a last rights match.
03:03:39I don't know how any of this worksand I've never done it,but I'll tell other people to do itand we can put their fucking eyes out.What were we talking about?I was going to ask you,are you surprised that Abyss is a producer for WWE?Well, no, because as I said,
03:03:56he's a nice guyand he was veryhe worked his ass offor was dedicated to anythingthat you would give him to doand he wanted to do welland he can remembermove after move
03:04:09like one of these mathematicalsavantshe worked with a lot of guysthat had great psychologyand of course this is 15 years agoI'm talking aboutwhen he was lighting himself on fireand sticking thumbtacks in himself
03:04:24on a regular basisso maybe he calmed down.I'm happy for him.All right, let's get another question.This was emailed to corny drive-thru at gmail.com from Todd.I was recently on a website.Oh, Todd.Oh, Todd.
03:04:40Just Todd, like everybody knows who Todd is.I was recently on a website that lists the history of WWE house shows.In May 1994, the WWE ran house shows in McMinville, Tennessee.and Lawrenceburg, Tennessee.Two relatively small towns in a regionwe Tennesseans refer to as Middle Tennessee.Yes.Geographically,
03:05:07neither town was associated with the USWAnor with Smoky Mountain Wrestling.Does Jim have any idea why the WWR ran house showsin these towns?Well, I think McMenville,maybe at one point,Memphis television would have reached therebut the schedule had been cut down by 1994
03:05:29and it was still too fartoward the western part of the statefor Smoky Mountain Wrestlingand I was going to sayMcMinville but it's Murfrey's Middle TennesseeState University is in Murfreesborobut they call that area Middle Tennesseethat is when
03:05:49as I recall ormaybe it was early on right before,but they were starting to try to run B shows again.Because the arena business was in the lulls.You know, it wasn't doing well 94, 95,but they had guys on the roster that weren't getting a lot of bookings,and back before they had everybody on guaranteed contracts,if you didn't get booked, you weren't making a lot of money.
03:06:18So they were trying to figure,out a way to run B-town, secondary townswith an A-town, the gardenor Philly or whatever, and thenwe're over here inturd blossom.That's also around the time, the first time I rememberW.W.E. ever doing, like, branded house
03:06:38shows as a tour. That was WrestleManiaRevenge. Remember right afterWrestleMania 10? Yes. That's whenthey had somebody in a studiothat was spearheading that kind ofpromotionand they were having Ed Cohen book the arenas on a loop that they could saythe WrestleMania Revenge Tour or the Summer Mania, Summer Mania, SummerSlam
03:07:01Clapback Tour, I don't know what the fuck they all were.But yeah, they were trying to just energize the live events and get,I don't know why they picked specifically McMinville and Lawrenceburgunless it may have been that they were in close adjunctto TV tapings that we had either done on the Monday and Tuesdayor we're about to do the following Monday and Tuesdaymaybe we were in Nashville and Memphisand they all well we'll send a small crew in early
03:07:33I can't remember the specifics but thenwhen I got up there in 96 they still had that's why I was doingthird party bookings with some of the guys road dog and Billy Gunncouldn't buy their way onto a WWF show but I could book themregular. But we went to Ed Cohen. I did and I said, why are we not running spot shows?Well, it was too expensive. And the way that they figured out, they had gotten in such ahabit of being Big League, they couldn't remember how to run a spot show at a college gym infront of 2,000 people and make money. And it was costing at that time like $60,000 to have a
03:08:14WWF house show no matter where they had it. I said, well, goddamn.then no wonder you're not running spot shows.But they couldn't figure outhow to change. I said drop the marketing.Take less trucks. Send one referee.You know, all the ways that you would have tocut costs if you had to cut costs, but theyhad progressed past that at that point.
03:08:40And so they suck some more pond waterfor about a year until the houses started coming back.All right, Jim. Well, as we begin toWrap up this episode.We'll wrap up after this.As your attention begins to wane.It's time for From the Files.Uh-oh.
03:08:57This is part two of the Dave Meltzer one.It could be a multi-part,but we're going to stop at two for at least now.This is a long letter, and I got a long reply.And by the way, the From the Files segmentfor the folks who haven't tuned in recently,Brian is going through the wrestling news files of Norman Kiteser and Jim Melbythat he owns and positions.
03:09:19has the rights to, and Norm Kitzerkept every letterand communication he ever gotand a copy of everything he ever sent out,much like the Jack Pfefferof the wrestling magazine industry.And on a recent program, we went throughDave Meltzer's attempt to
03:09:37sell Melby on the idea that he could do a storyon the San Francisco U.S. titleand the Japanese wrestling scenethat he was well connected with.This was from 1982, I think, right?And then Norm Kitzer's attempts in the 80s to get issues that the observer sent to him.Yes, even when he was trying to pay for him.Well, this one, we're going to take a step back.
03:10:01September 5th, 1984.So this is before WrestleMania.This is after Cindy Lopper.A little over a year after Norm Kitzer lost the WWF business.Dave Meltzer's observer's been going for a little while now.Let's go to this.Dear Mr. Kiteser, I received the most recent issue of your publication, October 1984, today, and had a few problems with it.Uh-oh.
03:10:29Which I thought it would be better to contact you personally about than air any of these gripes publicly.GRIP, now wait a minute, this guy, he was writing, Dave was writing a year and a half earlier.Please plug my newsletter that I'm going to do that I think will be the greatest newsletter ever.and also can you please let me write some articles for your magazine.And if he didn't complain about the $35 that he got paid for that one article,then what's he got to complain about now?A few minor points.In the fan club column, you have continued to list the observer as being monthly,
03:11:06when in fact it comes out every three weeks.The subscription price is $13 for six issues,with one issue for $2.The reason being...What, now wait, what?Back up, what?The subscription price is $13 for six issueswith one issue for $2.
03:11:29What if I just...If I send you $2 a week at the end of six weeks,I'm a dollar ahead, aren't I?That sounds like that's acceptable.Well, look, they're $10 each or $2.for 50.Well, the reason being that this, excuse me, that the mid-January issue will be the annual yearbook.The yearbook will be about 50 years.
03:11:58The yearbook will.Well, wait a minute.Again, I don't mean to bog you down here, but that fucking pricing scheme seems to be year-round.And we're not just talking about, why doesn't he have a set price for issues and thenin the add-on a la carte the annual.I'm just spitballing here.I don't know.The yearbook will be about 50 pages
03:12:20and individually cost $5.I've also asked a number of times recentlyto mention I am interested in tradingeither VHS or beta tapeswith anyone.Right now, especially if you have a good-looking girlfriend.Right now, especially the Mid-South area.Actually, I am now receiving regular tapes
03:12:42from every major circuit except Southwest and Mid-South,thus can offer WWF,AWA, Carolinas, Georgia, Florida, Memphis, world-class,all three Japan groups,when the third gets its TV outlet.Wait a minute.He said he's not getting Mid-South television in 1984.September 84.
03:13:09Had he moved from Wichita Falls, Texas,because he was there in a couple of the towns where we had the last stampede.He was working at a newspaper.I didn't know him then and had never met him and had him heard of him.But he has since talked about working at a newspaper,I think along with Mark Nolte for a brief period of time.Yeah, that's right.And he was watching the Mid-South TV in 1984.
03:13:36He was going to some of the shows, I believe, in Oklahoma City, I want to say.Yeah, Oak City is where it was.He was at the last stampede.Well, anywayAll right, he's trying to con somebodyWell, it says San JoseHe's back in San Jose nowThey ran him out of Texas
03:13:50And Calgary until it disbandsAlong with Portland in exchangeActually, the main issue I'm writingIs because of the nature of your past issueIn regards to the real storyAbout what is happening in wrestlingUh-ohNow, I'm sure my personal feelings
03:14:08About what Vinnie is attempting to doTo the businessHe's calling him Vinny already?Once again, now I am sure my personal feelings about what Vinny is attempting to do to the businessare pretty close to the same as yours.Since you have more of an economic interest, you probably feel even stronger about it.But being an avid fan and one who sees the business going into a major slump next year,my thoughts are similar.
03:14:38Wait.He called for a slump?In 85.Well, okay, I didn't know anybody in 84 was calling for a slump.They were calling for trouble, but things were just heating up.At the same time, I think your issue moved into Bill Apter journalismwith its making up facts in order to get across the point.I realize I take a very strong stance on the current state of wrestling,
03:15:07but never, and that's underlined, have I,I made up a fact or printed anythingthatI guess he originally wrote whatso he crossed that out. That's what screwed me up.Anything that at thetime I printed it.I didn't believe it to be the truth.
03:15:26It's wrestling publicity.Norm Kiteser was doing magazinesto be sold in the arenas by the promotersand on the newsstandsfor wrestling fans that wanted tofucking know about their goddamn favoritewrestlers. They didn't want non-K-Fabe shit that they didn't understand.
03:15:45Dave has been narrow casting since the start, hadn't he?I often make mistakes.And my buddies, and that's in quotes,at Titan Sports continue to swearI'm never right more than 50% of the time.But because of the nature of the business,it's impossible to print anything meaningfulwithout occasionally being an error.
03:16:08I certainly agree.it is insulting to fans to tell themthat the wrestling they have supported for years is minor league.I also agreeWWF has a horrid record for developing new talent,which I believe would be the worst effectif McMahon's pipe dream becomes reality.So let's stop there, that's interesting.
03:16:311984, McMahon's pipe dream,which was eating up the entirety of wrestling,which kind of happened,and a killing the pipeline for talent.Yeah.Which is exactly what ended up happening,which is why they needed OVW.And that's...
03:16:48Everybody was assuming that Vince was nutswith what he was trying to do.Well, not nuts,but that he wasn't going to succeed in 1984and running everybody out of business,but they were incensed that he wasnot only damaging the businessby running opposition to everybody,
03:17:08but by openly making it more entertaining and silly,which did her.I don't think that Vince running against some of the promoters,Mid-South, Crockett, Memphis, world-class,the strong territories,I don't think the bigger production or the major leagueis what swayed people.I think that the very point of Vince's product,
03:17:36that it's kind of over-the-top and silly,and not to be taken seriouslyand it's not a blood struggle for revengehurt the territories that were boomingwhere everything was a blood struggle for revengebecause it kind of took the head.It's like, maybe they're not as serious as we thought.You see what I'm saying?
03:17:54I do.A lot of the fans felt that way into Carolinaswhen I was actively speaking to themand seeing them walking into the fucking building every night.But that's the thing is,I don't think the promoters thoughtthat he was going to say,succeed until him taking so much of the overtalent and so many of the key places
03:18:15hurt the businesses to the point where they were on the verge of and then it was likeoh shit and by then everybody's getting smart not everybody now everybody's smartbut people are being smartened up and kind of entertainment wrestling was thething that was bulletproof because you already knew it was bullshitbut the other promotions were harmed by the revelation that it was bullshit.And again, this is that period of time pre-Ressalmania,just months before Mr. T would get involved,months before David Schultz and John Stossel,
03:18:52and they got a ton of publicity.Yeah.There was a perfect storm at the beginning of 1985.But how about Dave writing a guy that's been publishing magazines for 20 years,and he's like a 23-year-old journalism,graduateand he saidI had a few problems with your recent publication
03:19:12I'd be like motherfucker you were asking me if you could write for me a year agoand now you got problems with my publicationlet's go back to Davewhether the WWF has more top talentworking for it than the NWA,AWA and Mid-South combined is of course opinionand you are entitled to itI disagree however
03:19:31when it comes to meaningful talentwhich really counts, the few with real box office appeal,the WWF has a distinct majority with only a few real draws.Kevin and Kerry Von Eric, Rick Flair, Jerry Lawler,the Road Warriors, and a very few others left.Let me turn the page here.Your first knock against Titan is they have bought...So now he's holding up for him.
03:20:03Is that they have bought TV time at 4.from existing AWA or NWA promotions.While I'd rather the business didn't operate this way,I have grown accustomed to the business practices in wrestling,which are like an old-style Texas deathmatch.Anything goes until one man is left standing.The fact is, tracing history,the TV time slot the WWF bought from the AWA here in San Francisco,
03:20:33which is really the only direct theft, shall we say, KPLR TV in St. Louis.Yeah, KPLR is at St. Louis station.Was going to drop Geigle, whether Vince had come to town or not,was originally an AWA theft from ICW.He was probably going to pick up Matasik, though.They would have picked up Madisig, and then Vince came in,and they forced Vince to work with Madisig,and then Vince pushed out Larry Matasik.
03:21:01But again, to end the sentence,and there was a lot in between.He's saying that Vince,the TV Vince is being,that they're saying Vince stole,the AWA stole from ICWwhen the Pafos somehow got TV in San Francisco,if you remember that.
03:21:17Oh, good Lord, that's right.That's when they started sayingon TV in Lexington,they were having big matches at the Cow Palace.In fact,for all the multitudes of complaintsfrom the AWA when WWF first came to this area,the AWA came in,
03:21:33when an existing NWA group, Roy Shires, was still operating regularly.If you look at crowd figures from this area, it is obvious the wrestling public is quite happy with the change.At least at the present, I realize your publication will never print anything negative about the AWA,but when you realize the AWA only averages 800 fans monthly and WWF has topped 10,000 three straight times,you can see which side the fans have chosen.So I'm guessing Norm Kitzer wrote an editorialsaying they're not doing good everywhereand Dave's taken up for the San Francisco part of it?
03:22:14I believe so because Norm again, Norm lived in Minnesota.He had known that's how he'd got startedwas doing AWA publications and Vern and et cetera.So with Vern running the...But at that point in time,when Vern made money in San Franciscoand going out to Northern CaliforniaShire was really only running the cow palace
03:22:38his territory had fallen apartand he had stopped even producing his owntelevision was using another tape and bringing in talentand that's what Vern invadedand took over and did well for a whilein California and then Vince came inand snatched the whole roster.I always say, what side is Leo Nommolini on?
03:23:04And that's where I go.There you go.You can't go wrong with Nommelini.The next knock is Titans ticket prices.I lived in Texas and know that for a big show in Dallas,the best seats go for $30.I don't know anywhere McMan charges more than $20.$30, by the way, that would have to be front row at Texas Stadium.
03:23:25because you could still get front row at the sport of Torreman, Dallas in 1984 for like fucking $10.Well, yeah, the next sentence says McMahon charges no more than $12 for any tickets.$30 for 1984.It doesn't seem like a lot now.That's an extraordinary amount for ringside for a weekly territory or anything.I don't even think that that was front row at reunion arena for a Christmas or Thanksgiving Star Wars.He had to be talking about Texas Stadium.We'll see what we can find out about that.
03:23:52The Mid-South shows in Oklahoma Citycharged $12 for ringside for a normal showand $15 for a special showspecial show in quotesThe special meaningWhenever the Midnight Express was in a main eventThey got 15, babySpecial meaning any card after a previous sellout
03:24:10at $12.You know what?That's trueYeah, yeahThe AWA here was charging $12until crowds got so bad, they got so desperate and chopped $2 off.In most competing cities in the AWA region, the prices between both groups are comparable.WWF charges $3 more in Miami.
03:24:35Why is he telling Norman Kites are this who could give two french-fried titty fucks about it to begin with?WWF charges $3 more in Miami than the NWA group and charged $1 more in what had been Lauer's region,but your blanket statement is false.In fact, it was Bill Watts, not McMahon,who had to nerve the charge $50 for the recent Superdome show.Was that ringside at the Superdome?$50?Well, okay, at $50, then that would have been the front row at the Superdome.
03:25:10That's not ringside.That would just be the front row.Second row would probably be $25 or whatever.It was in Florida on NWA soilthat they had to nerve to charge $100 for the Orange Bowl show.Holy shit, really.I didn't know that.No wonder they didn't do a fucking major house there
03:25:27in addition to the fucking inclement weather.No wonder Dusty said, hey, Eddie, I'm leavingunless you give me the fucking money I drew on this fucking show.And you know what?When they gave Dutch Mantel the book in Floridaand he got things going kind of good,they had a sellout in one of the medium-sized towns.and they told him in the office they said,
03:25:51oh, well, you know, that's almost the best we've ever done.Well, fuck, if it was sold out,how's that not at least equal to the best you've ever done?Oh, well, we had a show there before.We raised prices.That was the first time Dutch had been to Booker.He said, hell, I didn't know you could raise the prices.Let me, we'll raise the fucking prices.
03:26:08Anyway, go ahead.Now, for action received, I agree.Titan shows are overpriced.which is why I will no longer attend them,but they aren't higher pricedthan all the other promotions as you indicated.Your knocks against Hulk Hogan,I won't waste space on
03:26:27because of how unimportant in realitywins and losses are.However, to my knowledge,Bob Backland never pinned Hulk Hogan,and I'm certain,Santana never pinned Hogan in WWF territory.And even if he did,those bouts took place
03:26:46three years ago, thus aren't valid in anyone's mind,except for the precious few wrestling historians.So probably Norman is doing the old thing where, well,Hulk Hogan has been defeated by Bob Backland and Tito Santana and this and that guy.And Dave's got to tell him, no, he hasn't.Norm probably knew he hasn't.Again, Jack Feffer, where do you think his shit came from?More interesting, he says it hasn't, then he says, well, even if it did,
03:27:15no one would care except for the precious few wrestling historiansthat's Dave putting down the historiansOh god damn itNextIn the past most topThis is a quote from NormanIn the past most top stars move freelyBack and forth between all the major organizations
03:27:33End quoteQuit spewing the party lineWhen it's a bunch of crockIf somebody writes youNo wonderNo wonderthere was heat, if somebody writes youout of nowhere, some fucking college kid
03:27:49to your man, well, quit spewingthe party line in your magazine.Are you going, what the fuck are you?Once again, quitspewing the party linewhen it's a bunch of crock.A bunch of crock?They moved back and forth only
03:28:05I thought a crock was the container.They moved back and forthonly. If you can't have a bunch ofcontainers, can you? You'd have to have a bunchof shit or a crock of shit,but the shit would be integral to be the stuff that's inside the container.I think he's trying to say shit, but he went with Kroc.But anyway, the wrestlers moved back and forth only at the whim of their controlling promoter.
03:28:28What?Don't talk about all the freedom these wrestlers have.He still didn't know how the business worked then in terms of if guy fucking then gave his notice and left,he could do whatever the fuck he wanted with anybody that would hire him.Don't talk about all the freedoms these wrestlers have,when in reality they have littleand McMahon's competitionactually gives them more options
03:28:51in your Georgia sectionyou stated howthrough a corporate takeoverand corporate decisionend quoteMcMahon got control of Georgia Championship WrestlingIncorporatedwhy don't you just say
03:29:09he bought the stock out from a majorityof the shareholdersand the courts ruledthere was nothing illegal in the way he did it.Vince may have done some crooked and unscrupulous things,but as far as legality is concerned,that certainly wasn't one of them.A lot of it seems like semantics too,
03:29:31but let's continue here.A lot of it seems like how much free time did he have to,again, Norman Kiteser had nothing to do with any wrestling promotion,and he was operating a...Nice little magazine there, and he didn't want to hear any of this shit.He didn't give a shit.The biggest complaint I have is your coverage of the Anoki Hogan bout from Japan.Oh, here we go. Don't touch Japan.
03:30:00First off, you left out several important details of the match,the two double count out endings.But even worse, you claim that the bout was for the WWF title.you must have known full wellsince you receive the same reports from Japan as I dothat this was billed as for the IWGP titleI realize your magazine apparently has a very personal grudge against Hoganfor reasons I don't know
03:30:31but this pathetic attempt to downplay his WWF titleusing non-factual material really bothered meDo you think that it may have been that since Hulk Hogan was the WWF championand they had pictures of him and Anoki in Japanthat since nobody in the goddamn United States of Americahad ever heard of the IWGP title?They just, oh, here's Hogan defending his title.Because it was fucking wrestling.
03:31:01See, that's the thing too.And I have to go back and check because I have everything.I have the finished copies and all the contents of everything that madeup the copy, but Coichi was sending all the photos and the reports, and, you know, again,I don't know.Well, we do have Norman Kaiser's response to this, but I don't know exactly what wouldhave caused this, but Dave was very upset, of course, as we...Very upset, perturbed even.
03:31:27I realize your magazine has a personal grudge against Hogan for reasons, I don't know,but this pathetic attempt to downplay his WWF title using non-factual material really botheredme.Hey, I wasn't complimentary to Hogan covering the same match,being that his massive ego forced a ridiculously contrived ending,which damaged the promotion greatly.Wait a minute, wait a minute.Wasn't that the fucking thing that everybody thought was a shoot where...
03:31:57I think that was the year before, because this is 84.That was 83, okay, I'm sorry.And by the way, 83, if you remember, it was a tournament,but technically the IWGP Championshipis separate from the IWGP tournament.In terms of what title he was talking about here, but anyway.Yes.You then say, quote,
03:32:17we are not sure where the claim originates,end quote, referring to Cobra's NWA Jr. title.Well, Cobra's belt is the same one less Thornton lost in Japanin 1982 to Tiger Mask.Does that refresh your memory?God damn it.And I ask you again, Mr. Kiteser, and I remind you, you're under oath.Dave has been an insufferable fucking spectrum rider since even before.
03:32:50I never saw this in his younger days, but I fortunately, apparently didn't have to have these marathon letters written to me.He liked your magazines.When Sayama retired, Cobra and Davy Boy Smith were placed in an elimination match and Cobra won.You also state, quote, in cities, WWF is going head to head, the crowds have been fair to poor in most cases, end quote.Okay, there have been some major failures, and there will be more for reasons I've outlined a million times in the observer.However, this area has been a major success.St. Louis is still generally doing better for WWF than NWA.In fact, even your beloved twin cities.
03:33:39Oh, damn.Even your beloved twin city that you ginia fleck to.Have shown the WNCityite.Have shown the WWF beating the AWA solidly two of three times.It was two out of three falls and the WWF got it.The Miami crowds are nothing great, but are about what the NWA does weekly.The Atlanta debut drew better than 90% of the Georgia Championship Wrestling shows had in that city over the past year.If you were going to tab WWF road crowds as fair to poor,
03:34:19wouldn't it be responsible journalism to mention the home promotion is doing poorly or fairly as well?My last disagreement...So he wants to freelance for this magazine and change their entire editorial policy and stance.To his slant on things, and again, if you're listening to this, he had a hang on a lot, but not as much of a hang as he would in a few years.We have to talk to a lot more wrestlers.So, let's finish this off, though.My last disagreement is your suggestion that McMahon has a staff of more competent announcers than himself, and his ego makes him take center stage.Well, yes, his ego makes him take center stage,
03:35:07but what more competent announcer are you referring to?Monsoon is even more obnoxious on the air than Vince.Gene doing play-by-play is setting standards for incompetence,and the rest of the crew are thoroughly worthless.The only more competent announcer on Vince's staff than himselfis an unnamed individual who, what?is an unnamed individual who he is keeping off the tube completely for that very reason.Who is that?
03:35:45I don't, the only more competent announcer on Vince's staff, so already working there in 84 than himself.But now announcer, ring announcer would be Howard Finkel, but Fankle was always ring announcing.But he's saying commentary and he keeps him off TV because he's better than McMahon.not talking about Patersonno and he had been removed from commentarya year and a half earlier or sowellboy Dave
03:36:14Dave leaves these teasersI don't know who that might be at thattime frameand by the way we're going to end with his last little bit hereand we'll pick up we will do a part three next timewith Norman Kiter's response to thismy last question will be answereddid it begin with hey motherfucker
03:36:33I'll get, go ahead.My last question will be answered probably in your next issue.Will you try and create a federal case when reporting the results of the July 25th matchwhen Jumbo Saruta beat Rick Martel via countout to keep a title, but not the AWA title?In fact, the whole match has been ignored by Ganya and his promotion here.And there was no interference in that match, nor two double count out endings prior to that.and he signs it about all.What?
03:37:09About, it's about all.Last time it was yours and wrestling.Now it's,yours and wrestling comma,now it's about all, period.Dave Meltzer, San Jose, California.So again,you know, I think
03:37:25in terms of communication skillsand interpersonal skillsand being able totake what you truly believe is the only way to see things,I guess what I'm trying to say is it doesn't seem too dissimilarthan the way he behaves on Twitter right now.Well, but he's been doing it since before he knew anythingor should have thought that he knew any goddamn thing.
03:37:50Because now he's all inflated because he's been doing this for 40 yearsand he's talked to everybody and smoked everybody, whatever.But then he was still, he was telling his guy's been doing this for 20 years,he doesn't give a shit about what he's saying.oh yeah you ought to do all this this way he's always been like that huh again noticeable is the endingyours in wrestling versus about all about all that's about enough of you is that's not whati got to think of you right now you're dismissed and i will call for you when i need you againwell like i said next time on the drive-thru norm kiteser's response from the files dave melzer
03:38:29Volume 3.But with that, the drive-through is closed.All right.Stay tuned.My new album will be coming out soon.Blow Jobs in Outer Space.You think it'll be a big hit on Arcadian Vanguard Records?We're looking for a good distributor.
03:38:52We'll let you know how that goes.Jim.I understand that MJF's old lady could probably handle that.She's distributed things all around the world.See, this is what happens.Christian starts talking about Moxley being a drunk.It unleashes this.He starts talking about the prostitutes in wrestling, and that unleashes you.
03:39:09I don't know what's going on.But we also don't know what's going on or how to get out of this.We'll be back on the experience in a few days.Next week, more questions.We just had a new thread with questions in the Coltokinette Facebook group,where more people are in than ever before, and we'll get more questions on next week.For the Files, Volume 3, we'll have more guests to program soon.Cornett's collectibles, Jimcornett.com.
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03:40:18Get even with stephenewlawoffice.com.But until the experience in a few days and next week back here in the drive-through for Jim Cornett, I'm the great Brian Lai.I messed upTallyho!