Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 381

Episode Date: February 28, 2025

This week on the Drive Thru, Jim reviews The Rock's confrontation with Cody Rhodes on WWE Smackdown! Plus Jim talks about Ryan Nemeth suing Tony Khan & CM Punk, and much more! Also, Jim plays Guess The Program, as well as WWE trademarked name or porn star?  Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: [e-mail]  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Again, friends! Yeah, you're going to have to work on a new audio apparatus for that one, uh, Liberacee. It's the Xanax episode. I wish I was on it. It'd make things a lot easier. I'm your host of Great Brian Lass. This is Jim Cornett's drive-through another fun edition. I already messed up the intro, but it gets better from here.

We have lots of talk. We have a rock, maybe a hard place, so much more. With this man, the leader of the cult of Cornett, the man will be answering your questions, Mr. Jim Cornett. No, no, no, no, Brian, last. Don't, don't be introducing me like that anymore. And don't be talking to me like that. And now that I'm a big-time movie star, I'm in the show business,

I'm trotting the footlights and thespianing against the limelight and up on the silver tensile for all of people to screen, you need to start calling it Jimmy Baby Jimmy Baby sweetie Really? You know hey hey we got to do lunch Your people get with my people and they'll have more people And it will do a blockbuster and it'll be a mega hit And you know and and we'll be working for MCA

So it's more of that now because I'm you know I'm fixed to be a movie star here Very shortly you know whenever the people are listening to this Whenever MCA comes back yeah Well, you know, well, hey, when Ronnie Van Zett comes back, MCA will come back. The Queen of the Ring is being released nationally, as they say in theaters near you on March the 7th. And by the time that the people, the Cult of Cornett,

hear this program, I will have attended the world premiere. We get it before anybody else because it was shot here in Louisville, Kentucky. I'll have attended the world premiere and we'll have a report on that possibly some video as well because Hotchkis Featherbottom may be attending is Dagum

theater Stony Brook where the debut is taking place it's so close to that school that Hodgkis is afraid he might be within five hundred but he's going to try to be on one side of the theater don't even make that kind of joke I know he's a weirdo and a nutcase and just completely incompetent

when it comes to computers, and the last person you would ever want to trust with your computer or anything else, but let's not go too far. Well, no, because he did that school's computer system. And they've got a very large financial judgment against him, and he doesn't want to get too close because they could have one of the security guards can tackle him. But anyway, we might have some video on a YouTube channel, but as well, the premier will have premiered, premiered, What did you say?

Premund? The premiere will have premiered is what I was, but I was about to say, Primerd, and I tried to stop myself, and it came out. Fromunda. But anyway, the premiere will have taken place,

and we'll have a report on that upcoming on the programs as well, but in theaters near you, March the 7th, Queen of the Ring, where I play, I get a small, but can I not stress, a pivotal, pivotal role. I'm thinking, that's the point here, Brian. I'm thinking maybe you have best supporting actor?

Do they have an Oscar, an Academy Award for Best Cameo? No. I don't mean the kind of people buy individually. I made a cameo, a small appearance and a major motion flick. So you've watched yourself on TV for years. How do you think you're going to deal with watching yourself on the big screen? well my my forehead has gotten bigger even on television over the years at least at least taller so i think it'll just be a case of you know my head being larger is good because more people can see me more

clearly see me more clearly day by day i advise people to go and see the movie every day it'll get the get the gimmick as isn't this is amc the ones that nearly bankrupted themselves with that gimmick where you could buy the card or you could see any movie any amount of times you wanted, and then they had to cut back on it and people got hot because they were losing their ass. Do you have any idea what I'm speaking of, Brian? It sounds familiar. Well, how long of you bars, if you'd like me?

But anyway, so yes, the movie, the movie, and we're going to go to the premiere, and we're going to come back and tell the people about it and maybe there'll be video and you've maligned Hotchkiss all that you're going to. But back to me, because that's always a safe subject. Now that I'm in the show business, you know, we've got to gear things up around here because the show is going to explode even more than it has already. I'm going to be known now as the final boss of podcasting

because I'm going to be on TV. I'm going to be in the movies. I'm going to be on the podcast, on the YouTube. You'll be picking me up on the fillings in people's teeth. So address me into the manner to which I'm one of the, I'm one of the movers and shakers now that has a pinwheel or a flywheel that reaches all of the branches of entertainment. What was it a flywheel or a pinwheel?

It was a flywheel, and obviously we'll talk later on about another delusional person who who's part of the flywheel. Part of the flywheel and calls himself the final boss. Or possibly the flywheel. the fly in the ointment. Oh my God. I don't even say anything because I have not talked to you about it. I have no idea what you're going to say and everyone's been bombarding me because

whenever it started, whenever the Rock started reappearing and I started calling him out for his shit, there were a lot of people who really didn't like that. And slowly but surely, and in large part, thanks to the Rock, people have come along. You couldn't ever have done it without the Rock, Brian. I couldn't have done it without him. I want to thank Juan Johnson. But more and more people are seeing it,

and I don't want to say anything until we review it, but whatever the hell he did the other night on Smackdown deserves a full recap, and we'll get there. It's deserving of something. Well, we'll get there

after we get to Cornets, collectibles. Well, hey, well, actually now, at this point, where are we in the year? Brian, is it still February, or the people are going to hear this right at the the ass end of the month of February, aren't they? The tail end of February, correct. So they may have been left out and hopefully you haven't been because there'd be no recourse then.

Your life would be ruined because you'd never make it up to yourself if you got left out of the February sale at Jimcornet.com amongst the Cornett's collectibles merchandise. But if it's still February, then you can still get $20 off every heavenly bodies or Midnight Express tag team action figure set. And if you buy a four-sad set, you can also get any of the remaining non-sold out Jim Cornett action figure variance for half price, and they're all autographed. And if you spend more than $50, you get a free classic wrestling two-hour DVD from the wrestling gold series. And also, again, Hotchka's Featherbottom's loving care.

in shipping these things to you. And believe it or not, as I promised, by the end of February, we will be within about a five to seven day turnaround of me signing stuff and it actually being shipped. And some potentially quicker than that. So we're catching up or we've caught up. Whenever you hear this,

it's either present tense or past tense, Jim cornet.com. And do you know? I do. Who, you don't know. what I'm going to say yet. I thought it was like Jeopardy. I'm supposed to jump and try to get it first, but okay.

Well, and you still didn't phrase it in a form of question. Who is I know? Well, I'll tell you the idea. How is I know? Well, not doing very well. They're dead. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Do you know who's dead?

I do, Jerry. See, now you're laughing because you're, you're embarrassed because you've made mockery of the dead. Jerry Butler, the Iceman. I was very sorry to see that this past week. I think his version of Moon River is like one of the greatest recordings ever. Well, that's not the person I'm talking about. Somebody else died this week around the world.

Two people dying on the earth in the same week is shocking enough, but who this was, you don't know. I don't know. I'm not sure where you're going, no. Do they have the Jeopardy, Final Jeopardy music? fucking say Roberta Flack Roberta Flack was 88 years old

and she just apparently died according to Twitter and is it killing me softly or killing me silently I didn't hear anything about it well have you been on Twitter and the last I got on the Twitter trying to find this

fecocked new fucking audio apparatus you got going on here and saw that that's what they're saying so if she's still breathing she needs to hurry up and die because Twitter can't be wrong. But that's a shame. Killing me softly with this.

I know what you're going to say. I'm killing you with all of my songs. But no, nobody else in the world could have sung that song as flawlessly and brilliantly as Roberta Flack. A virtuoso performance. And I saw a live clip they had on Twitter and it sounded exactly like the record.

She was amazing, amazing. But do you know, Brian last, that she did not write that song? The whole song is centered on her heart being ripped out by hearing, apparently an ex-lover, singing a song about her deepest, darkest,

horribleest thoughts and feelings, and it's just heart-wrenching to it. She didn't write the song. But that is a lesson to the people out there because sometimes the writer cannot perform, and the performer didn't necessarily have to be the one to write if they can interpret it. It's a collaboration.

It's a give and take, but it's, Brian, it's an intercourse, is what I'm saying. So the thing about that. Okay, so that's one down. Who was the second person that died this past week? Well, whoever the fuck you just said, Jerry Butler. I thought he was a porn star from the 70s.

The Iceman, he started out with Curtis Mayfield. He had find yourself another girl. He don't love you like I love you. Wait a minute, he did, he don't love you like I love you. If he did, he wouldn't break your heart? Yeah, Jerry Butler. Well shit, no, I'm sorry. Yeah, but his version of Moon River is one of the most beautiful recordings ever.

The song's great and Andy Williams got all the credit for it because he got to do it at the Oscars or whatever it was. But the recording that Jerry Butler put out, the guitar tone, everything about that is just a perfect record. And then along comes Andy Williams like the, what was he, the Pat Boone of movie themes, stealing other people's work? Yeah, the whitest of the white guys came and stole. Got all the... You didn't steal it. I mean, it wasn't like Jerry Butler wrote the song, but his version is the best record, I think,

the best sound that you'll ever hear of that song. But Jerry Balder is... How do you think that stacks up against Buddy Landell's version? Of Moon, the one... You know, I've never seen the footage, so I can't tell you. Somehow, when I got the commercial tape, some Joker took all the good stuff out of it. I didn't get to see any of that.

The listeners may not know what we're talking about, but us tape traders, though, we were ripped off. I will elaborate in a second, but to answer that, I'm pretty sure that that didn't make TV or the VHS tape. But ladies gentlemen, what it was, was, and in hindsight, we could laugh about these things after, let's see, it was 33 years ago. I think we got to the laughing part about, oh, six or seven years ago.

No. Was that the first fire on the mountain? Yes. Ninety-two. Johnson City, Tennessee, Freedom Hall. And it was an I-quit match between White Lightning and Tim Horner and nature boy Buddy Landell. And Buddy couldn't stand Horner at the time,

and nobody particularly blamed him, especially in hindsight. But Buddy was also in the, he was, his needle was heading toward the bad buddy side of the gauge instead of the good buddy that came back and worked for us much longer in 95 he couldn't stay in Horner and they're working his program and I had plans for Buddy to do bigger things but we needed to keep everybody busy we had 14 guys to territory so you know this is going to happen so they're working a little program it's an I quit match just because it's a big show, blah, blah, blah. And Horner gets even a, I can't remember what it was.

A fucking arm bar submission or a fucking some kind of abdominal stretch or whatever. And Hildgren's a referee, I think. And he takes the microphone and puts it down in front of fucking Buddy's face. Do you give? And buddy goes, Moon River. God damn it. Oh, damn it. And so that's when I, unfortunately, we had to part ways for a while,

because even though I'd rather, even then, I'd rather have kept Buddy if his head was right and got rid of Horner. Buddy was the one that was exposing the business when the company wasn't six months old. So he had to go after TV the following Monday. In hindsight, that was just his way of saying I quit. It was, yeah, that may be the first, I quit matching history where the guy actually quit the company. That was the thing about Buddy, he was such a good heel in different roles.

Like with Butch Reed, he was kind of like the goofy sidekick. And not goofy, but just the, I don't know how to describe it, the, he was, he was, Trumbemaker. Well, here's the thing, he was like the fucking, and Eddie Haskell and Lumpy Rutherford rolled into one. He was the high school kid that hung around the guy that was really the badass because he had a big mouth and that way the badass could back him up.

But he wasn't a goddamn nerd, but he thought he was greater than he was and wanting to hang out with the cool kids type of thing in mid-south, in that locker room atmosphere, I guess, for lack of a better term, That's kind of where he was at with Butch and everybody. Because he was still only 22 years old. So it was perfect because he was always that fucking guy.

He excelled in a lot of things on his own, but he always had that big mouth that he wanted to be, you know. See, that's the thing. He was always a heel, but he was a heel that even if you hated heels, he would make you laugh. Now, Moly River is a bit of a step too far, but the Bill and Buddy show the stuff in Mid-South, him and Butch reading the gym.

I used to hear a story from Philadelphia fans. Yeah, and by the way, that was the thing, the same thing in real life. He was a healer would make you laugh. You could be so fucking mad at him for his goddamn various actions and faults. But at the same time, it was buddy. It softened it so much because he always made you laugh or how can you just want to choke him, really. I'm sorry, go ahead. Oh, but what I was going to say is Philadelphia fans have always talked about him,

and J.T. Smith and they're working and J.T. Smith was the young guy, the local guy that worked for Goodhart and Todd Gordon. And he's working with Buddy. And the crowd got quiet enough. Buddy just yells, but he doesn't yell. Buddy just says very loudly, sell you bitch and chops him. And that's the thing that the fans remember. They don't remember the chop or the selling. They remember sell you bitch. Oh, and I mean, that's the thing. You know, he would, buddy would come into the goddamn room whether it be the lobby of the hotel or the fucking locker sometimes he'd come in a locker room dragging his bag long trip

look like shit but whenever on a plane whenever he could make somewhat of an entrance he would come in the equivalent of flare would always have the three-piece suit on and the sunglasses and he'd have the belt bag in one hand and he'd be brushing his hair with the other hand buddy would be sometimes in flip-flops and gym shorts and a fucking tank top

and have an old fucking gear bag draped over his shoulder but he'd have the sunglasses on it. He'd be brushed his hair. He would act the same way like Flair did in this $5,000 suit walking in and whatever the fuck and have a bank bag that they started carrying before the fanny pack and he'd tuck it under his arm.

Hey, baby, I'm here. You ready to go? it just I got to see both sides and one day once in New Jersey it was when it was one of the Eddie Gilbert Memorial brunches lunches whatever it was

that Dennis did in Cherry Hill New Jersey was it a holiday inn I forget exactly what it was I think it was and buddy during the day three piece suit or maybe not three piece

but suit talking about religion has his shit together on his best behavior Bill Watts is there Bill Watts is I was there I was there.

Yeah, I filmed it. You were there, too. Yes. And Bill Watts is putting over Buddy is how he's got his life together, but he was such a rascal back in the day. Later on that night, I'm hanging out with Mark Harleuzo and Donnie B.

And I'm in front of the hotel. I don't know where they got a pickup truck. A pickup truck shows up in Cherry Hill, New Jersey. And I don't know who was driving. I don't remember which stooge it was. But buddy's in the passenger seat with Don Marie on his lap. And he's, and again, you know, two sides of buddy. with, he goes, hey Brian, you got any pain pills?

And I said, buddy, I'm 16. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. No, buddy, don't worry about it. Have fun. I don't know what's going to like that. I'm not old enough to hurt yet. I don't know what's going on to that pickup truck over there.

But funny guy. And you know what? The saddest thing is we never got to see what was going to happen. He wasn't going to become the world champion, but they brought him in the wrestle flare. I mean, you brought him in, really. I mean, it was you behind it. And he got hurt right away, and we never got to see.

Buddy Landel on a national stage at that point. How funny could he have been at that point? Well, and now you say they brought him into Russell Flair, which time are you talking about? I said Flair, Brett Hart. Excuse me, Brett Hart is what I was thinking of. Well, but there's that. That was what, 95? That was December of 95 because here was the thing, before we knew or before I was sure

that we were closing Smoky Mountain, already arranged one way or another that we got somebody in the Royal Rumble. Because remember, in those days, they didn't have a roster where it could just be, you know, 30 of their regular guys, a Harvey Whippelman would have been in the thing at one point. And they would always have maybe a legend and a surprise from so blah, blah, blah. And so since we were working together, I got to have somebody. that was going to be in the Rumble and to expose them on television

you know, leading up to it so people would halfway know who the fuck they were and we did a deal in Smoky Mountain, I think. I think that may have been one of the last things we did. No, we didn't get that far because Rumble was in January. But we were going to do something where the winter blah, blah, blah,

between him and Brad and whatever. Point I'm making with this rambling story is he goes up to do the TV in December. And I think this was the same infamous WWF TV taping with Boo Bradley as Santa Claus. Oh, that's right. Yeah, that was around the same time. I think you made me right.

Yes. And it's fucking wherever we were, they flew into in and out of Philly. So Buddy is going to the Philadelphia airport to the hotel there. I won't call the brand name. I don't remember which one it was. Not Jermaine to the point.

of the story. It had snowed. It was icy. He got damn some way or another. Now, he said it was snowy and icy, which it was outside, whether it was right underneath him or not. But he slips and falls. And when he does, the power hotel door somehow opened out instead of in or whatever. and in a freak deal, he got his leg caught between falling and the door opening on it, and it fucked his knee up. And he did have to have some kind of surgery. And I mean, this certainly wasn't a deal. He was trying to get out of work.

He missed a Royal Rumble because of this fucking thing. And he tried to sue somehow, and I don't know where that went, that was 30 years ago, and his buddy, not necessarily. the most reliable witness. But that's what fucked him up and he never got another chance at that.

Because he called me with Jeff. I see you, what? The door opened out and I slid under it. I said, oh, God damn it.

He came back to. But anyway, he was back in WCW briefly in 1990, but I think it may have been right after you left the booking committee. Did he ever come up from like 89 until 90

when you were on the team with Flair and Sullivan? did you ever bring up buddy or did anyone ever bring up buddy what did Flair think of Buddy I think of that guy. I think everybody was scared to bring up by not scared to but at that time remember

Flair was the Booker when I was on the creative team and Flair was the fucking champion that was supposed to be shooting an angle with goddamn buddy the last time he had fucking no showed him on a more important spot that they were willing to give him at that point

so I was hey you know buddy the fuck he had taken a hammer to my head it that that's the thing is that you know buddy always got the chance in memphis because they were forgiving of everyone because talk about a fucking politician at various points either jarritt or lawyer or lawyer jerryt or lawler especially jarritt would qualify there as a politician but they could make up with anybody and also out of necessity but in a lot of other cases it had to be somebody in a position of importance that you hadn't previously done the same thing that you're probably about to do again to for them to so i don't think buddy didn't come up in that short period of time and then

it was jr when flair had quit as head booker it became more of a committee I think that's J.R. kind of as, well, let's give him another chance. And I mean, you know, I don't, I can't remember he was any, you know, more responsible in his personal time, trying to figure out a way to say that at that point that he was at some points, but he, I think, made all of his shots for quite a while. Do you think it would have been different if he had had all the same substance abuse, issues at different points, but he had stayed in really good shape. Like in 84, he got an amazing shape.

And it never was really in that shape again. If he had been, would that, would he have had other opportunities, like with WWF or something, even with his problems? No, I don't think, I don't think he would have had more opportunities if he looked physically in any of the other years, like he did in 1984, because again, stories about the spectacularness of buddies' behavior sometimes precluded. They knew he could work his ass off and all you need to do was let him talk. And if he had his shit together, he was going to be dressed and look good and do the nature boy thing.

Or you were going to get to fucking, you know, a bruiser bedlam fucking gym, not T-shirt, but fucking tank top, whatever. buddy with the flip-flops and the hay if it don't snow we can't go and that you know then he needs to be in a little territory where he's driving everywhere because he doesn't need to be in hotels and planes on a regular basis that type of thing so his immense talent the reputation it didn't matter about his physique that was they knew he could look good if he wanted to All right, well, rest in peace, Roberta Flack and Jerry Butler And buddy And buddy, of course

Jim, as we move along here with the show Before we get going too far because of popular demand We haven't gone anywhere yet Because of popular demand, let's do it one more time Briefly to get us in a good mood WWE trademark name or porn star Ah, oh shit I have a list of names here of

Adult Film Actors and Actress allegedly. And I also have a list here of names that within the past two years, WWE is trademark. Now, some of these names might have gotten on NXT TV. I really don't know because it's a bad show. I don't care what any of you say. The NXT fans are like early AEW fans. It's great. Shut up. It's great. Watch the girls. You'll love the girls. Shut up. It's a bad show. But Jim, are you ready for this? Yes, I am ready to determine which, uh, which person is in which profession. Kendall Gray.

Is that a wrestler or a porn star? That sounds like a kind of a generic NXT girl name. I'll go with it. It doesn't have any provocative ozity, a provocativeosity. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to mispronounce that, of any kind of porn star

that would tickle your taint. Well, apparently you are right. That is a WWE trademark name. See? Very good. There you go. Jim, what about Laney Reed? Lainey, how is Lainey spell? I'll spell the whole name for you. L-A-I-N-E-Y-R-E-I-D. Okay, I'm thinking that's also an N-X-T name because that violates the rule that I just talked about today. she's got to have more whys.

Wouldn't have had an I but a Y in her last name if she was a porn star. They like WISE. Okay, that is indeed a WWE trademark name. You're two for two today. Boom! Jim, what about Carly Bright?

Oh, Carly Bright. That sounds very, very suspiciously like a porn name. And I think, her probably, she's probably got the librarian gimmick with the studious glasses and a book bag slung over her shoulder and a short skirt with potentially a lollipop and some bows in her hair.

Do you have a sketch artist to be taking this down? Again, I can't confirm or deny what you're saying here, but it's interesting. But yeah, so I'm going in that direction. What direction is that? She's a porn star. Carly Bright is it. a WWE trademark name. Well, maybe that was still the gimmick.

I'm taking submissions for sketches. All right, Jim, wrestler or porn star, Dragon Lee. No, I'm kidding. Let's go to another name here. Jim, wrestler or porn star, Jada Fire. Oh, now we get to the porn stars. Well, it makes you say that. Well, because she's fire.

She's probably, she's a red head and she's got the Bam Bam Bigelow flames tattooed up, up her yingangs to the malfunction at the junction. And she's got the, you know, the leather Zabadas. Yeah. She's a porn star. She's hot. Well, you're right and you're wrong. Jada Fire is indeed a hot porn star. She's an African-American woman.

here's a bio. Does she still have the fire? There's no fire. There's no red hair. Does she have the red hair? There's none of these things that would incorporate with fire. Jada fire, a legendary figure in the adult industry, was born in 1974. She built an impressive career with over 400 films to her name and numerous awards recognizing her exceptional performances.

Though she retired in 2012, her influence remained strong. captivating fans and inspiring many. Actually, you know what? I take it back, even though the picture here isn't show it. With her striking red hair and electric... But the picture here doesn't have red hair. An electrifying presence on screen. Jada Fire isn't just a successful adult film star.

She's also an entrepreneur, a passionate advocate for sex education, and a trailblazer in the industry. It sounds like you should have gotten that one. Well, you did, that's why I did. You did? All right, let's get it. I even, see, even you had to back up on the red hair deal. Jim, Danny Daniels.

Danny Daniels, that's, that could be a, a boy, or it could be a girl, because you got the D-A-N-N-Ys and you got the D-A-N-I's. eyes. And Daniel, that's kind of a bland, boy, that's too bland for porn. That's got to be an XT. Danny Daniels is an adult film star. Beyond adult film, she hosts dinner with Danny on Amazon Prime. What the fuck? A roundtable discussion on porn sex and relationships. Every time I watch her anal scenes, I want to go to P.F. Chang's and eat. Jim Alexis Texas She's a porn star

All right Sounds like you may be familiar with Myth With Miss Patrick Hey Don't you Put Miss Texas's name In your mouth there fella

I'll take that personally She has around 3.8 million Instagram followers She's a member of the AVN Hall of Fame At 21 while working in a restaurant She was offered an opportunity to enter the adult film

industry marking the start of her career. She's a net worth of $3 million. All right, Jim, what about? That's a lot of fucking adult films. Jim, well, there's two other people on this list of next people. This one has a net worth of $3 million. This one has a net worth of $3 million. I don't know how accurate this is.

Let's go here. Uriah Connors. Uriah Connors. That has to be an NXT. name. That is indeed an NXT name. I'm not even going to. Can that even, can you, that's a, that's a male oriented name anyway, right?

Like Uriah Heep. There were no girls in Yariah Heep. We're there? I don't think so. All right. Jim, what about, Jim, what about Cutler James? Well, again, now, are these male people? Are we considering them as poor?

stars also because aren't the men in porn are basically just you know they're they're the they're the cake underneath the icing they're just they're just flour there to hold the fucking good stuff up so should we you know but sometimes you can't tell like the dannies well once again cutler james i think that's got to be an x t that's that's also fairly black Cutler James is indeed, well at least a WWT trademark name. I don't know about NXT itself. What about Layla Diggs? Layla Biggs or Diggs? Diggs, Diggs, DIGS. Layla Diggs. Boy, that might be a porn name.

I'm going to go with the porn. All right, well, unfortunately, Ms. Diggs is a WWE trademark name. Jim, what about Nicole Aniston? Okay, that's WWE,

because there's a lot of syllables in that. And it's, well, now think about this. How many great porn stars have multisyllabic names like that's

first and last. Don't it, you don't have time. You got to get the dick in the mouth and everything. So just a... So what do you say?

Lela Diggs? Hi, I'm Sika. So... Well, Vanessa Del Rio took a little more time to spit out of your mouth, Jim, but what about Laila Diggs? Well, but now at the same time, she'd kick your ass if you didn't fucking... No, you said another name here a second ago. I did? It's what I was reacting to.

Oh, I thought. I thought you were reacting to Lela Diggs. No, I thought you said it. Oh, that's right. Nicole Aniston, excuse me. Nicole Aniston. That's the eyes too long. It's got to be a W.W.E.

name. Nicole Aniston is a porn star. Oh, well, no wonder she had never gone anywhere. Jim, what about Caden Cross? That I disqualify myself from because that's a W.W.E. name. I've heard that name. What do you mean you disqualify yourself?

Why would you have to disqualify yourself? yourself, as opposed to all the other ones? Well, because I have prior knowledge. The rest of these motherfuckers are about as goddamn familiar to me as the dark side of the moon, but I know that name. Well, tell me about Caden Crosse. I don't remember. We've seen Caden Crosse on TV. I think we have, wasn't she a little short girl? It was with the other girl. It was a little taller, but still not too tall because she was short. Caden Cross is a porn star. What? She's worth apparently 4.5 million. I don't know why it has everyone's value here on this list. What if it, Jesus Christ, if I'd have known this, I would have got into porn.

Maybe you're confusing. Is it Caden Carter and Kieran Cross? No, Carrie, Cross the Mercy. It was it, it was Caden. Now, what's her name? Caden Cross. Well, there was a Caden, something that was a little

short girl it was partners with the other short girl in NXT. Well, no, what are people are confusing the two. Oh, I know you're talking. My Katana Chanson and Caden Carter. That's what you're talking about. Whatever you just said. Yes. What happened to them? I don't know. I thought that was her.

Jim, what about Shiloh Hill? Shiloh Hill, that's got to be a fucking poor name. Give your reasoning for such a... Well, it's like a fucking, it sounds like, you know, San Juan Hill, Shiloh. Shiloh Hill.

You know, I don't, I can't see that as a wrestling name. Shiloh Hill is a W.W.E. trademark name. Ah, Christ. And Jim, our final name here today, Violet Myers. Oh, now you've got me shell-shocked. she wouldn't be the granddaughter of Jim Myers, a.k.a. George the Animal Steel. Violent, man. I'm, it's an offensive name unless...

What? No, it's... No, it's... I'm sorry. I mean, it's, it's an inoffensive name. I was going to say, what am I missing? What did she do to you? Well, no, no. It's an, it's an offensive name. It's not like there is a porn double on Tondra going on here unless she comes out in all of her movies with violets hanging out of her hoo-ha. And it sounds like one of the young peppy, cheerful WWE trainees. So I'm going to go with the final one is a WWE trademark name. Violet Myers is a porn actress. So she does come out with violets hanging out of her hoo-ha.

Or maybe she's a wrestler. known for her curvy figure and cosplay performances. Narrow it down. Violet has quickly garnered a large following. She's a big anime fan and often incorporates that into her performances. Narrow it down. We still don't know wrestler or porn star. Well, this has been edition two of wrestler or porn star.

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a big episode. Seemed like it was never going to end. And there's one thing everyone's talking about from the episode. I don't know how much other stuff you watched, but one of the more fascinating segments in a while, it took a while, but watching it live, it was watching a train

just about to fall off the tracks, but it never exactly goes. Let's talk about Smackdown. Well, this was kind of like your introduction, a long and rambling segment in a long and rambling show. It was February 21st, and it's a three-hour show.

It's become what Raw used to be. Before Raw had to get good because it went to Netflix, and now we've just, we flip-flopped. We used to get two hours of kind of exciting Smackdown and three hours of a long-ass raw, and now we get two and a half hours of an exciting raw and a three-hour long-ass Smackdown. And they were in New Orleans, and they had breaking news,

and we'll lead with this, and then we will go back and, just talk maybe a minute about the bloodline issues, because otherwise there's no, it's not like there's anything, it's shaking the earth in the way of news from this program. But otherwise, the news of this program was they had released earlier in the day, The Rock,

Dwayne Johnson is going to be here tonight or is going to be at Smackdown. And however it was phrased, they put the word out and so they've announced this at the top of the program and then you know later I think finally Rock pulled

up in his truck like haven't we established he lives in Miami or whatever does he just drive this truck like a nomad from place to place that we would it would establish there's Rock's truck forget about that did you see him speed around the corner no left or right turn indicator

no complete disregard for the traffic laws of the city and municipality but then finally at 9.45 so they milked until an hour and 45 in and I think rock might figure the third hour the second coming

with cartoons and of travel log couldn't save this fucking thing so 945 the place goes dark and then if you smell and there's a big fucking pop because it's the rock he's going to get one and then have they changed his music again

it was rapy of some description in there but at the same time there's elements of the boom boom they changed it up but even like at his peak they were doing that where they would keep the intro and then kind of modify everything else. Also, I don't know how much, he's super over, or at least when he first came out, and he gets a big pop, but I think some of the pop is built into the music the way they do

would Osprey and Omega and other people. Well, at least Osprey. I don't know about Omega, at least Osprey. They sweetened the pop, but he still, he's going to get a pop because it's the rock, and he hadn't had time to piss these people off personally yet. For a second. So by the time that the music and the entrance and he milks, you know, it's five minutes and everybody's up to say because it's the rock. They just found out they were getting this today.

And then he gets on a microphone and he gets bleeped in the first 30 seconds. I'm not sure what all he was saying because he speaks quickly for a novice lip reader such as myself. but he gets a pop live in the audience for saying something he gets bleeped on network television in which it works every once in a while but remember when he did it at NXT it was just he does it every time now over and over it's his way for a cheap pop I mean based on the way

this whole promo went you would have to watch this and think this is a guy that has all the skills or has had them in the past and there's something completely off right now at disconnect. And I think that is a crutch. It's a cheap pop. I'll come in there and immediately curse because I'm not supposed to.

And it works. And it works. I think also this is like a guy who has all the tools or skills as you said, however it was, and also has Tourette's syndrome because he's saying everything

at the same time. He's saying shit for people to cheer for him. He's saying shit for people. people to boo him. Are we supposed to, that's part of the problem here we'll get into. Are we supposed to like him? Are we supposed to hate him?

What the fuck is? There's a difference between, remember we all, we're always talking about, oh, it's so great. We're guessing about is he going to be this match or that match or who's going to win this thing? That's great.

Keeping them guessing is great. Confusing them is not the same thing and is not great. He announced that, WrestleMania is coming back to New Orleans, which got the expected big pop from people that came to see this show to begin with. And there at the Superdome, April 11th and 12th of 2026.

And then the fans start shit, holy shit, holy shit. Well, whoever Mr. Audio at the network is, the sensor guy is trying to mute shit out of holy shit. So it's just in and out sound, in and out sound. And then Rock says something. It gets bleeped again where they just completely mute whatever he fucking said. And then he started singing when the saints go marching in.

I mean, it's like coming to fucking Louisville and singing my old Kentucky home. But then he starts healing on the crowd. telling him to let him sing and calls him STD having trailer park trash. And he gets booed. And I wrote, what is happening? But the thing is, he's not even saying that. I can't believe I'm saying this. In an affectionate joshing way, he's instantly going back to the heel rock.

And, but he's just, he's, is he a thing he was going to get heat for getting shared because he's a glory hound and had to be the one to come out and introduce that or introduce announced that WrestleMania is coming to New Orleans and then he can call him fucking syphilis ridden perverts or what is what's happening here Brian before we even get to his cohort in this before I got to the part of this before we get there where I thought he wanted to fuck Cody my first thought was I think the rockman may be drunk. And I'm not joking. Anyone thinks I'm just out here joking? My first thought was,

I think the Rock may have enjoyed some spirits tonight, but I don't know. The whole thing was bizarre. He went from baby face to heel to baby face to heal to I'm an executive to whatever. I'm one of the people. Cody once again, you know, I know that the Rock apparently said that him and Cody have this great chemistry together. You don't really see any kind of chemistry. You see a confused wrestler, I don't know what this was. I see the warmth between Cody and the rock of formaldehyde.

It's no chemistry at all. There's no, it's like peanut, butter, and fucking sardines. But so he, the rock being he, too many pronouns, pal, calls out a man that he respects and admires our WWE champion

Cody Rhodes and Cody gets the entrance and now remember we started at 945 Eastern Cody gets the entrance and Cody comes in the ring and they hug each other

and they smile at each other and the rock kisses Cody on the cheek was that where the part where you thought that Rock was going to fuck Cody no it was the whole just talking to him like he was Oh, you didn't mean sexually. No, I didn't mean sexually. It was just the whole tone of, like, talking to him, like, puff daddy trying to recruit a rapper.

It was that whole fucking vibe. Do you think that Rock has been to any of Diddy Daddy's parties? Who knows? I'm sure we will find out. I'm sure a lot of people. Well, how would he know the verbiage for the pitch of being pitched to be one of the Diddy Daddy? I'm not exactly sure, but again, I, there's still so much more to go with this, but

this is another appearance by the rock coming off that NXT one that went nowhere. And the one before that, and the appearance at the pay-per-view, at the end of the pay-per-view with war games where he just came out for no reason, and they disappeared. There's a weird thing going on with him where he's just kind of doing his own thing. And the other thing is none of his stuff that him and Gowertz, or him and himself, come up with, none of it's really working beyond the star power of him being the rock of years old.

Everything he seems to be trying to do isn't working. And then he started repeating himself. And that was the point where you're like, what exactly, what did he have in his mind? Because maybe he needs to start writing down the promos on his hand again. I really don't know. Well, that's the thing. It was like he was workshopping to use a term I've heard before. some of that was like he was workshopping the shit

instead of actually doing it on TV because he went back and reiterated so many points sometimes in the same verbage, sometimes he would change it up a little bit but it was rambling, but that's the point. By the time they hug and kissed, it was 10 o'clock. So 15 minutes for WrestleMania's coming to your town,

I'm going to sing and y'all have syphilis. and then the Rock pitches how he and Cody have become such good friends after WrestleMania last year and he showered praise on him at the Netflix debut and he said Cody's a great champion and they showed a picture of their mothers together smiling in happier times they're friends but Cody needs to understand that the Rock is on the TKO board. And then at one point, Ari Emanuel owns the WWE,

but Ari tells the Rock that he's the most powerful guy in the WWE. But he's in with all of the, it's kind of a rounded about. But the Rock pitches that he wants Cody to be more than our champion. He wants Cody, in Rock's words, to be my champion. And of course, then people are like, so they don't trust this. And Cody's confused.

Your champion. I'm their champion, points to the fan. And yeah, now they're chanting Cody, Cody. Should they have said he's the people's champion? I mean, that's kind of what it was all, you know, the Rock is supposed to be about the people, and now all of a sudden he's doing this thing. Well, but then he, remember, he had to reiterate later on,

and I'm the people's champion, in and out of blah, blah, blah, kind of slid it in there. But the, I don't know if, if Cody, you know, came up with this whole thing and he twisted everybody's arm to do it,

then I apologize to Cody for shitting on this segment. But the only thing that Cody could say to make the point that they're trying to make here, vague though it may be, is that Cody would say, I'm not your champion or the company's champion. I'm their champion. that's a logical thing to say.

And that also got him chanting Cody's name because the fans like that, because the rock is rapidly getting under their fucking bonnet here. And again, Rock's always going to have fans, and there's so many people just with the movies that don't even know what was going on with the wrestling. But for this, again, you're going to see a backlash from the audience that buys tickets goes, makes the effort to see it live, especially on pay-per-views, that type of thing.

Now is going to start getting the sour belches in larger numbers when the Rock shows up because he's going to get in away of something that they've been invested in and confuse the fucking issue. But I digress. The Rock knows that here's, I'm trying to jot down the reasoning. What is this story? And he said, Cody's goal is to bring happiness to people around the world. And he's got millions of followers on Instagram.

Well, Rock has half a billion. Do half a billion people follow him on something, whatever the fuck the Instagram is? I think he said Instagram. I don't know about legitimately. I'm sure there's a ton of people across the world, but I'm also sure that that number has to be padded. well however that works but anyway rock gives him the big pitch he wants Cody to be his champion so he can open the doors for him

every dream will come true Hollywood he'll be in the show business Brian they'll be calling him sweetie and daddy and mama and brother and sister and oh yeah maybe maybe him and his wife could ruin Cody's career like they ruined the guy who played Superman's career oh who was that? It must have ruined him. I never heard of him.

Henry something. I forget what his last name. Oh, good old Henry. So the Rock gives the big pitch, right? If you're my champion. And Rock, one thing I've never had is a brother. Now, hold on.

There are a couple of... There's like a half dozen siblings out there that he doesn't acknowledge. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, they might not have had someone that he felt was a brother, but they've had

enough siblings that he'd have, he'd have a brother by geneticism. He always wanted a brother, just not one actually related to him. Just not one that was actually the same dad as him. That's what he's saying. Yeah, then that's what Cody can be, a brother from another mother.

And, you know, then he goes into the story. Last year, my goal was to face my cousin Roman Reigns for the title, was what was best for business. The biggest match ever. And what did you do? Well, we'll never know, ladies and gentlemen,

because then the Rock said, you, audio mute. And people react, but it was completely blanked out. And he said, you stood up to me and you slapped me and nobody gets away with that. And that's why you should be my champion. What the fuck is happening here? and then a repeat about Cody's dreams coming true.

And then he says, don't give me an answer tonight. Think about it. I'm like, for more time, I'll meet you in Toronto at the Elimination Chamber for your answer. Answer of what, he's the world champion. They're fighting in the elimination chamber to see who gets a shot at him, and it's already obviously,

or gets a shot at some title or whatever the fuck is going on. on he's in the fucking mix if he just pledges allegiance to the Rock he can meet the Hollywood agents what is the big pitch to go to the dark side here

I don't know but anyway then then he the Rock turns around and he thanks the crowd yeah you've been a great audience you've been a great disease ridden

syphilous face audience. And I really appreciate it. And then he looks and says to Cody says, what I want more than anything is that. And he points at the belt, you think. He's pointing at Cody there with the belt over his shoulder. And Cody says, you want my championship? No, no. I don't want your belt. I want your soul and the crowd mildly booed and

rabble rabble and Cody has to look confused which everybody else actually kind of asked to also and the rock said see you in Toronto and he walked out to mild booing again but he stopped

dramatically twice in the aisle way to look back over his shoulder at the distraughtness and dumb foundery that was on Cody's face and seen 28 minutes for that fucking segment and I turned off the show after that

I didn't realize till the next day there was still more to go that went so long and it went past 10 o'clock I forgot it was a three-hour show Hey, you couldn't wait to get out of there. That was... You didn't realize they were coming back on stage for an encore. I got killed a few years back when I said the Rock can't do good promos anymore. How could you say that?

He's the Rock! I got killed when I said the Rock's instincts suck. Oh my God, did I get killed for that? I stand by everything. I have said, in fact, I expand upon it. And I think everyone else sees it too. This is embarrassing shit. and I said it before and I'll say it again,

they've got a rock problem. And the rock problem is Ari Emanuel doesn't know wrestling. Ari Emanuel knows Dwayne Johnson and he knows Nick Kahn. So if W.W.E. Smackdown written by now,

Brian James is the head writer, the road dog, under Paul Leveck, if all of a sudden they get told days out, two days out, whatever it is, the rock's coming, he wants to do something, you have to change everything. this is like having Vince there again. All of a sudden you have a chaotic agent

who, not to say the Rock isn't a big star, not to say if there was a chance to build him up for something in Mania, they should. They shouldn't, I mean, not to say they shouldn't, they should. However, if it's just him showing up at random times to be jammed in to the show to act like some heel authority figure

from another time, that ain't gonna work. said it when he showed up in NXT and said nothing, if he keeps showing up and either saying nothing or just being so bizarre or saying too much, it's going to start killing any

buzz he has around, not buzz, it's going to start killing the idea around wrestling that you have to see the things that he's doing for the right reasons. Well, I mean, he meandered badly in NXT like he had absolutely nothing prepared. I think he even said that, and I believe him.

In this case, was this over-prepared? He was trying to sell this story, and in some way was... He was trying to remember everything he memorized. He was trying to remember everything in the single words memorized, and that's the problem. There's no instincts. There's no letting things breathe or feel natural. Everything with Dwayne Johnson in front of the camera, even if it's not a movie or a TV show, it's all performance.

He doesn't know how to be real. and because of that in this day and age, that starts bleeding into these promos where, again, it's so unreal that you could tell there's almost like a problem with the guy. But go ahead. But how can it be inconsistent if it's so carefully fucking written?

How can it be so inconsistent? Every time he shows up, is he going to kiss somebody? Or is he going to fucking whip him with a weight belt? Is he, he has been... alternately fucking playing up to the audience and calling them, you know, sexual deviants with diseases, he's kissing Cody on the face,

but he wants to own his soul. But last year, this whole thing started with him kicking a shit out of him, and they never really made up made up. We just saw him rock come back and start kissing him. Well, no, they said that that was another thing. After the match last year, you and I got together, drank some of my tequila and needed a cheap free plug.

So when did that happen? You guys hated each other last year. You were drinking tequila after a match? Even if you were, why are you saying that here? A lot of these guys can't... I mean, again, this is the same show that in the middle of a wrestling show is showing you clips from this training show

that gets 150,000 viewers on A&E, exposing the business. So it's not like that's a big deal to them, but the rock can't, like, keep things straight. He wants to be too much at once. He can't just be a heel character. Well, that's the point I'm making is this, and that's what's happening here is they're confusing people and numbing them to what's going on because we can't keep track of it. It's not like the goddamn again.

The smart fans are upset because it doesn't make sense and because they don't want the rock getting in the way of their, the things that they're really wanting to. see amongst all the people they've been watching regularly all year, right? Blah, blah, blah. But also the average person, if they keep doing this, it's going to start saying, oh, there's the rock, but I thought they were mad, or I thought they were hugging each other. It just breeds familiarity, and that breeds blazee. I don't care.

I don't care. If I'm not successful, it won't be. distrustful because I don't care, he's still going to be on the board so he don't care, but for his ego's sake, I don't know what the fuck they're doing. That's the thing. I say there's a rock problem. It's just back and forth. There's a rock problem at some point if this continues down the road.

It won't be now, but there will be a conversation where Nick Con and maybe even Paul Levec have to go sit down with our Emmanuel and say, this guy can't just show up and do whatever to fuck he wants, especially if it's not working. And this didn't work. People were interested in it for all the wrong. reasons. Nobody came out. I shouldn't say that. There are people trying to defend it saying, oh, you got to let it play out. You got to see where it goes. I mean, it's the same argument as a lot of the AEW crap. No, this was a bad promo that went nowhere and confused people. People want to

see where it goes for the wrong reasons. They want to see how they're going to fix this. They don't want to see anything else. Also, they want to see where it goes. It doesn't matter where it's going if this is just keeps stopping and starting and changing in the middle of what they've already seen and instead of being consistent with everything that everybody's been doing over the past several months when their business has been on fire and suddenly out of an helicopter as Jim Hurd would say they drop the rock and yes he's the biggest star in the world and I said for a lot of people he just get out there and bend over and fart into the microphone, it'd be fine and dandy with them.

But, you know, it's fucking shit up. And remember, we didn't we talk a few weeks ago? They don't need the rock at WrestleMania this year, or they didn't. Maybe they're not even getting him now. We don't know what, he just comes in now and confuses the issue and muddies the water at the top level, the top program right at rest of the time. right at WrestleMania time again. And this time is later than it was last year.

So do they have as much time to course correct if there's backlash and four lash and all kinds of different lashes. Well, Jim, before we completely move on from this, I have to bring up to you the press conference because a lot of other people were talking about it. It's a long press conference after Smackdown, about a half hour, a little less than a half hour, and it's pretty much all the rock?

You know, the rock should go to AEW because he and Tony both love these long-winded press conferences where they get to talk more about the talking they've just done. Well, let's listen to this and judge this versus a Tony press conference. We know how Tony does it. We've listened to dozens of them at this point. I bet this one will be a little smoother, just verbally. Let's see, who's more full of shit?

who's smoother? Who do you believe? Who do you trust here? Here's a question for The Rock. Apparently this is about the whole Cody thing. It's been good. Right after this. Rico Andre with WBOK Radio. So tonight you had a big proposal for Cody Rhodes.

What does this mean for you and him as past rivals and our respected peers? With Cody, oh, I love that. I got to tell you, you know, for those of you guys who don't know, I grew up in the world of pro wrestling, my dad, my grandfather, and to be able to come back in this way as the final boss, and to be able to get in the final boss's skin and be able to become that in this venue here in New Orleans. And really, I think, take the audience on a fun experience and ride where I'm singing, I'm dropping the announcement of WrestleMania. Here we come, 2026. I'm singing, oh, when the saints go march.

in that I'm telling you can't sing with me. The final boss will finish thing and then bring Cody Rhodes out and offer him this big ideology of you know, you are a champion and you're amazing, but I want so much more for you. And at the end, the final boss says, I want

your soul. And I think what that does in this wild crazy world of pro wrestling is that... Let me stop it for just one brief minutes. I'm just, I'm stunned, yes. I was trying to figure out if he was ever going to come to any kind of point.

Well, there's a little more here, but this is Jericho disease, isn't it? Well, but also, it's just, he really is in love with the smell of his own brand. He's, he doesn't realize that he's coming in and for the most dedicated followers of this brand, he's disrupting all the shit that they think that they're getting and that they're getting and that they want to get and they want to see. He's inserting himself in everything, but at the same time, if he wants to be a heel, he wants to be a heel and a baby face,

and he wants to be an obnoxious heel, and then he wants to immediately turn baby face to tell you how good he is at doing that. And it's just, it's smar me at this point, and it's just, please get over yourself. And you're not taking me on a guy, damn thrill ride like I'm at Disney. You're confusing the issue at this point.

You're wedging. You're a third wheel here. I thought this was the guy that said he didn't do WrestleMania a year or two ago because they couldn't come up with something a long-term plan that was different that had been done before and was captivating and wow. Well, now is he just coming up with ideas and flying into the fucking town? He's gone to too many movie pitches.

That's what it is. He's trying to pitch everyone on all this happening, but he's the genius behind it because he understands it. Deep, deep inside his mind. Let's go back to The Rock. To me, it just becomes something that's unpredictable. In the world of pro wrestling, as we all know, like everything will culminate to a match.

Like, whatever happens, it will end up in the ring. What I really love about this rare airspace that we've gotten to with the character of the final boss. It's like this white whale unicorn in that with Final Boss and Cody Rhodes. Hold on. Now, wait, just hold the phone here a second. First of all, the character of the final boss. He's goddamn James Lipton here inside the actor's studio,

but also a white whale unicorn? Is that even a god? Did he just make that up? Has anybody ever said that before? are white whales and they are unicorns, he just combined them both to make it ultra rare. Well, it's about as rare as hen's teeth. That's what Uncle Harold would have said. Let's go back to the white whale unicorn himself, Joaquin the Rock Johnson.

Sounds like a fucking song. What I really love about this rare airspace that we've gotten to with the character of the final boss, it's like this white whale unicorn in that with Final Boss. It's not about the WWE title. It's not about having a match. It's not about punching or kicking or bleeding or any of that that is so part of our world. It never has to culminate to a match. That's a really special place to be, I think, creatively.

And we just think character-wise and how much fun you could have. I grew up in the business. So as did Cody, his dad and my dad were friends. They're no longer with us. but I think to be able to have a storyline and two characters who are very popular to never have to get in the ring for a match but yet still hold this really unique, compelling,

like off-putting and it's kind of weird and he wants his soul, what does that mean? I love it. I loved every moment. And Cody did too as well. If you can, stop it for a breath. Let's stop it. there and again.

But again, he's all around this thing about how praiseworthy this whole story is while telling people that it's a, it's a gaga story. And if they don't have to have a match, then what would Cody, for some reason, sell his soul and turn his back on his fans for the rock? I doubt it very highly. but if he was some way put under the yoke of oppression of the rock, then wouldn't he, by tradition and wrestling, have to at least beat the guy up one time to get out from under it?

Or when he throws off the shackles of slavery of the rock and stands up for himself, does the rock just say, oh, okay, my bad, and go make a movie? And Cody's standing there with his dick in his hand? Where's the come up and say, as Larry Latham Spot the Moondog would say Where's the heat?

And again, the rock At this press conference is almost talking down to the world Because, you know, he's trying to explain The genius behind this And in case anyone didn't know, he's from a wrestling family. Who the fuck didn't know that? In case you didn't know my dad and granddad were wrestling,

Who doesn't know that? They literally just had a fucking network television show about it. But well, but then it didn't get renewed, so maybe there's still a lot of people that didn't get the word. The pomposity and the arrogance and the out-of-touchiness of the rock is going to catch up very, very soon if he stays around for too long. And this shit better make sense. They're in Toronto. That'll be a harsh crowd if this doesn't make sense a little bit better. they can't end the segment with Cody looking confused in the ring Cody's just standing there in the ring he looks awful throughout this whole thing

like there's nothing that makes him look better it somehow took him and the title down a notch and went nowhere in the process and again right after it's over he wants to sit down and talk about hey Cody was happy too and I was happy and what the fuck how does that help anything yeah you know because I know that

since I am on the board of directors and I do know the owner and jet around with him or whatever the fuck, I know Cody would have said, boy, this fucking sucks, you need to get the fuck out of here if he really meant that. But he enjoyed it.

You know what the problem is? These scrums are more for the people doing them than for the actual media. The scrumers instead of the scrumees. I feel sorry for the scrumees. They got to listen to the scrumers. So that was a scrummy press conference from The Rock, and we'll see where we go from here. What is your gut telling you?

You optimistic about where we're going to go from now to Mania with the Rock, or do you think, do you think based on the last few appearances, Netflix, NXT, and this, and before Netflix it was that pay-per-view Survivor series, where it just showed up at the end and was never explained or referenced again? No, that was bad blood, wasn't it? because it was in Atlanta. Oh, was it? I thought it was the War Games.

I think. Oh, God, well, I can't remember because... Maybe you're right, no, you're right, because War Games with CM Punk was on the team, not Cody. You're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get used to saying that now that I'm a fucking Hollywood superstar. But point being, I don't think we're getting rock wrestling at WrestleMania.

I think he's just confused. the issue somehow. I mean, he might have a plan for this to go forward, or maybe he just wanted to go to New Orleans. But I think we would already, one would think that you would have already announced or had in the works far enough that it would be known if the rock was actually wrestling

because he has to get in the physical shape. He can't just do that at that level once a year. you know, at least that's been his track record of getting in shape and, you know, being serious about that part of it. So, but that's why I'm wondering, does he take someone else's side? Is he playing someone else against Cody at the, you know, the next step? Or is, or does he just go home till the next big show? I don't fucking know.

Well, it's the confusion like this that makes the road to WrestleMania so, so confusing confusing every year more about this when more actually happens when anything happens when anything's explained whatever it may be

it may be here but Jim on that topic the big news that broke concerning AEW have you been forward with this hold on hold on here a second hold on here a second I wanted to go back here a second

and just make reference make mention oh I forgot it wasn't over It was over for me. Yeah, I forgot. We only talked about the one 28-minute segment or whatever, but there was, also on Smackdown, there's tension. Remember we took a break about a week and a half

where we didn't watch the, I didn't watch the wrestling. But there's tension between Solo and Jacob Fatu now. And there's being pointed words exchanged. and Fatu and Solo were the tag team that were in the main event against the baby faces, who were, did I write this down? Where are the notes of this? Ah, priest and strong man. And basically, that's the thing, is Jacob Fatu, remember when I was saying,

when they first introduced Solo as the enforcer, the, street champion, whatever was going on there. That's this great idea for a gimmick and a great spot, you know, in the bloodline. You know, it's different, but it ain't solos too clean. Boy, they need that Jacob Fatu. I believe you'll recall me saying that, even though I'm not a person to talk about the various times that I'm always right.

I would venture to guess that there's a large audience of wrestling fans that learned of the name Jacob Fatu from you. well, now they are learning from Jacob. But so I guess the thing is now there's some tension between the two of them as to who's calling the plays. And you get the idea that Tommy Tonga will probably go with the winner. And then they had the main event where to be honest, it proved that a brown strong man isn't very good. Damien Priest style badly clashes with solo

Finally we have proof We've been looking for proof That's what we've been missing And Fatu has overshadowed solo in the ring He's been working longer and he's better at it And he's wilder and more unpredictable Solo is still a little green and has the You know that but it wasn't a real good match

But finally you've got solo milking the fucking spike. Jacob did a double team where he snapped priest's neck on the rope and into Solo's rock bottom. He got a two count. And then Solo was milking the spike, but Priest stopped him. So they got in position where Jacob was coming with a kick and Priest moved and Jacob kicked solo and knocked a fuck out of him. and in priest Chuck Solo and Brown took him out over the railing

or the desk or whatever or top roped Fatu, I'm sorry, and they were out on the floor and priest choke slammed solo one, two, three. And they just got it in. My DBR froze. I don't know if anything else happened. But now I'm wondering

is it's going to be hard for solo to be in the group but be subservient. But at the same time, Jacob is a natural baby face because of his charisma and the way he impresses people with the shit that he does and his element of danger. They don't get to see that much these days. But this is the intriguing kind of shit where you don't know where it's going to go and you're guessing. not like, well, I'm fucking confused, because they're telling this story, you know, reasonably and logically.

But otherwise, it was kind of boring. I'm sorry. I didn't see it, obviously, but what would you do if you have everything going on right now? Is it too early to turn Jacob Fatu baby face? And otherwise, do you just reunite the heels with some kind of central cause, whatever it may be? I think it is too early to turn, Jake, because there's so many matches that they can get money out of

with him on the heel side right now. If I had to do anything for the sake of long-term business, I might reunite solo with Roman because they've got another, they've got another Samoan coming back. He broke his fucking toe, right? Oh, that's right, but he's not even Samoan.

He's Tongan. well but you know what i'm saying in the bloodline in this bloodline cast of characters uh the fatu solo and the two tongas were originally together so even if solo for long-term business i might reunite solo with roman and make jacob the leader of the rogue band because they still have a couple that they've signed that you haven't seen including a giant. Well, I'm just telling you. They're hiding a giant down in developmental. They're hiding a giant in Atlanta.

You've got the shelves are stocked with all kinds of surprise Samoans they could bring out. But this is a good little palace intrigue here with what's going on. But I've just, again, if you now, everybody's liking Jacob and Jacob's getting over. but this is what I was talking about so you can see it visually now without having to go too far research this shit on the internet a guy that comes in

that has that wild unpredictable look that you can kind of lose yourself in the disbelief of this guy might not give a fuck enough not to go into business for himself and do some stupid shit and his athleticism is off the charts and his shit looks good

and it is that, you know, Jimmy Snooka-ish, even when he was a heel, people were starting to get with him and get behind him because he was just awesome. And it wasn't like his promos were going to strong enough to influence him either way that Jacob can talk also. And he could be just as big of a wrecking ball as a baby face with a valid reason as he is now as a heel. but I'd wait a year, year and a half and get a bunch of matches that you can get now while it's fresh and then turn him when he needs a little paint up. But that's what I'm talking. The level of aggression that he shows,

and you can tell he wants it and he's into it, that's what I was talking about coming in and making an impression. If he was nervous, he didn't show it. Well, but it's your show. We shall see what happens and show it. or tell you about it. Oh, and here's an update on something we talked about. Remember Ludwig Barga gets his own episode of Dark Side.

Dark Side of the Ring this season, the incomparable Tony Holm. And I said, I couldn't remember, but he had a tattoo that had to be covered up by his ring gear in some fashion because it wouldn't fly on television even in 1999, five or whatever that was, four. And it was the, I don't even know what you call this, but an eagle with its wings spread with the SS lightning bolts. Oh, that's nice. In the middle of a circle around the, yeah.

So that was forwarded to us on Twitter to, per our discussion. But that was what they had to wrap up on him. And from this picture that I see, I can't tell what limb this is, but I believe it may have been a leg or possibly a fucking breast, a thigh, a wing, not sure what part. On the topic of follow-ups,

we had a question the other day on the drive-thru about the Milwaukee midget, Charles Fisher. Turns out he was a wrestler. He wasn't even a midget wrestler. He was just a shorter wrestler. and I got to read up more and as a biography of him I just got it so I haven't had a chance to look through it apparently he lays claim to have invented the pile driver but we'll have more about this in the future oh good lord but he wasn't a midget he was just a short man he was just a short man they called him

the midget you know what I told you that story Bobby Fulton told me didn't I which one about But when he, you know, runs shows wrestling events. It has for years. And he booked on one of his matches. He booked this midget that he knew, midget wrestler, to have a midget match. And he said, can you get somebody to work with? Oh, yeah. So he's expecting them to show up, show up.

Then all of a sudden, they said, Bobby wasn't in the locker room. He was in the box office or whatever. somebody else was in the locker room this little old man he was like five foot two inches and adivis in his 50s or whatever carried a bag tried to come in a locker room and said who are you so i'm one of the wrestlers no who the fuck are you we don't know you i'm wrestling with so-and-so whatever the other midget's name was and they went and got bobby he came in there he said look at you you're not a midget he said but i'm not that tall and the midgett couldn't find another midget so he got the shortest

regular-sized fellow that he knew to come and and he was going to put a mask on him so they couldn't tell he was fucking 50 years old or whatever but he was Bobby was like god damn it you told me you were going to bring another midget you tell me you're going to

bring a little old man when I first started watching triple A like a 93, 94 I guess 93 I started watching Ray Mysterio was such a standout he was like five foot two. There was another mini Gerito Estrada,

the mini version of Jerry Estrada. He was like 5'4. He was bigger than Ray, but Ray wasn't in the mini division. All these other guys were in the mini division. He was almost as big as Jerry Estrada, Gerito Estrada. They either needed,

the minis either needed one like Mini Vader that was so bulbously large around or taller than most as the catcher of the of the payer in that type of situation. Well, Jim, one more follow-up before we move on. A friend of ours, a friend of the show. We've had him on the show in the past.

Scott Teal, Crowbar Press, a brand new book just came out. Raising Kane, if you like wrestling history, Raising Kane from the Inferno to the Great Mephisto by Frankie Kane and Scott Teal, the, I guess, part two of his autobiography slash biography slash interview. It's fascinating stuff with the great Mephisto. Just came out. Well, yes, I've seen it. As a matter of fact, Scott sent me an advance copy.

The first volume was Frankie Kane had a fascinating life and career, and because he started really young as a teenager involved in this world of boxing and wrestling and carnivals and everything. I mean, he knew Jack Feffer, but at the same time, he was still working on top, and as a booker in the early 80s, it was on, you know, Georgia wrestling on TBS.

So, you know, a variety of eras. The first volume was from when he was just a kid and boxed, and he's from Columbus, Ohio, and through breaking in as a pro, and this kind of carries it from, as they say,

the inferno to Mephisto. because Frankie Kane was one of the original masked inferno tag teams. They were ripped off in the 70s, but in the 60s, he and Rocky Smith were the originals, and he pioneered the gimmick, the loaded boot. And he was one of the first people before the sheik

that threw fire. Of course, Saul Weingroff had been doing it with the cane gimmick with the Germans and et cetera, but a lot of the territory wrestling, you know, cliches that you might see, a lot of them originated with him. He was a great booking mind. He just, I think from reading this book, I think unfortunately he thinks he's a little greater than he was, which probably led to some of the promoters not wanting to suffer.

They wanted some ideas, but they probably didn't want to deal with him full time. He was booking Mississippi for the Cokens when they were on the outs with Watts. That's when Michael Hayes, Terry Gordy, Percy Pringle. Yeah. And he, you know, had a big run as the Great Mephisto in Florida with Eddie Graham. And he became a manager later on after injuries and et cetera. But anyway, it's an interview that Scott does. It's transcribed, but he sits down and goes,

in chronological order Scott does great research and I will say there is there's definitely some wrestlers embellishment as there is with any time you ever talk to a fucking wrestler but just the

everything that he says is rooted in reality because Scott has found the newspaper clippings or the program articles or the ads or whatever that you know prove that he was there at these things when they happened in the way that he remembers him.

So it's a great book. Anyway, if anybody likes old time 60s and 70s and 80s wrestling territory history. That's right, and a lot of behind-the-scenes stuff, as well as other books from Crowbar Press. Check it out, crowbarpress.com, Scott Teal, and of course,

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Yes, well, keep your hands clean and your hands to yourself. but meanwhile Shopify is going to be in the dark corners where you need them to be and they're going to be making sure some people go away that are in your way they'll get people out of your way and then you'll corner of the market on those widgets and wingdings and then the people will be forced to give you money as tribute they'll be bringing you buckets of money and currency and goods and and corn corn on the cob and snap peas

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But jail? Well, now, I don't know if I would go around promising their friendship, but they'll do business with you. On the topic of friendship, that has always been one of the central tenets of AEW. And unfortunately, this past week, one of the friends broke ranks. Ryan Nemeth, we've talked about him before in his issues that he talked about publicly with AEW, has reportedly, according to Fifell, filed a lawsuit. against AEW, Tony Con, C.M. Punk.

I'm trying to see if there's everyone else here. The full complaint is not online, and I'm going to guess that's also, no one's been served with this yet. It's just a... Wait, but what about me and Home Depot and The Rock? I don't know. He has not... Did they name us? He has not announced that he has teamed up with Rocka Khan,

although she may have helped write this. Again, we don't have everything. We only have what's been made. public. Let me read you some of what's been reportedly made public from this complaint. Ryan Nemeth is a successful actor, comedian, and stuntman. That wasn't a joke. That was a statement of fact under penalty of perjury. Oh, that may make it a little more touchy there. They filed that with the court. Ryan Nemeth is a successful actor, comedian, and stuntman.

Nemeth also followed his older brother, Nick's career, and has established himself as a star performer on the professional wrestling circuit. Nemith was under contract with AEW. AEW is owned by Shad and Tony Khan. Shad Khan is the owner of the NFL franchise Jacksonville Jaguars. When his son Tony managed to alienate most everyone within the Jaguars organization, including star NFL players, Tony was moved to a leadership role in the Khan family-owned Fulham Football Club.

Tony ended up mismanaging Fulham, leading to multiple lawsuits against the club. This is in the lawsuit complaint? This is the opening paragraph. Since he was a child, Tony loved professional. wrestling and had an obsession with certain wrestlers. That sounds like the opening of a Halloween sequel. The Khan family formed AEW to provide Tony with something to do, safely away from the father's other ventures.

Tony serves as AEW's chief executive officer. Phil Brooks was another wrestler under contract with AEW and a member of the AEW management team. Let's stop there. That's the first time we've seen that. Officially that he was a part of it. Well, but again, this is there.

We've already seen how facts can be stretched like spandex on Oprah Winfrey's ass in other aspects of this thing, by what we've just read. So it will probably come out if this goes anywhere. But are they claiming he was part of management because he was given the responsibility

or by Tony verbally of overseeing collision or did he have some type of contract where it stipulated that he was an official part of management? That remains to be seen. We don't know that. Well, let's see what it says. here, Tony had a deep fascination with Brooks. Brooks undertook a campaign to terrorize and intimidate plaintiff, including physical assault. A.E.W. and Tony Khan did nothing to protect

Ryan Nemeth and other wrestling performers from despicable conduct on the part of Brooks. A.E.W. turned a blind eye to Brooks' conduct because of Tony's deep admiration for Brooks. And because he was their most popular wrestling performer at Brooks and Tony's insistence, AEW and Tony Khan have undertaken an effort to Blackball Nemeth so we can never again, it says we, yeah, so we can never again work in the wrestling business. So let's stop there. The accusation is that Tony Khan and Phil Brooks conspired together to Blackball Ryan who I believe has been on dynamite, is it three times, four times?

Well, but isn't he now, isn't he working for T&A, or I saw him doing something at some point recently for T&A, or am I just making that up? He, I believe, was doing something with his brother in TNA, because his brother has been a star in TNA for a bit. Okay, so his case here is, besides the fact that it's worded in such a ridiculous way, and it's so ludicrous on the face of it. He was there before CM Punk came into AEW. He's been on and off there for a few years.

And remember, at one point I say, you know, I admire his self-promotion. He's trying, unlike a lot of the other goofy indie guys who would come in and try to have the Arena, Mexico main event, you know, with whoever he knew he was being used as a job guy, and he was taking the bumps and doing the job but still trying to get his personality noticed instead of doing a bunch of fucking moves. And he was all over Twitter

and the social media with the Hollywood hunk and he's trying to get a gimmick over. He was working hard at that. Kudos for the effort. And I think honestly, the way this is written and with no facts behind it, instead of a serious document, it's a way to get attention,

you get himself over. And potentially have Tony who has more money than he can fucking burn in the goddamn furnace to just get him to go away because he's a distraction. But point being, the story is that he was a guy that was there forever and they used him five times on TV and he never won a match. And he was in a group of other job guys that maybe got to speak every great so often.

and punk comes in and works there for however long he was there and nothing really changes and then punk tells him to take a fuck off out of Dodge in Greensboro or wherever it was because Nimith is a friend of the lollipop guild, the California Raisins. And since they had been so childish in this whole thing that separate shows, separate crews had to be created for Saturday and Wednesday, that punk told him to have Nimith hit the bricks because if his crew can't be on Wednesday

then their crew can't be on Saturday and he's a fucking job guy and well we have details well I'm about said that punk's been fired so how the fuck for the past year and a half for however long it's been so how the fuck are Tony

and punk still conspiring to fuck with this guy's career when Tony fired his co-conspirator two years ago, a year and a half ago, and also, while we're at it just to wind things up, it's completely ridiculous to think that he's blackballed in wrestling when he is currently working in T&A, which is, I guess now technically the third biggest promotion, in the country that has a deal with the WWE that's the biggest promotion in the world.

So they did a horrible blackballing job. But I think that's all the points I had off top of my head. Again, we don't have the entirety of the complaint, but let's go with what we have here, according to I believe, Fightful's reporting. At all relevant times mentioned herein, Brooks was also

an employee of AEW, serving a role in executive leadership. In early 2003, Brooks assaulted and battered two fellow wrestlers known by the stage names Matt and Nick Jackson. Brooks is known to have an uncontrollable temper and often lashes out and violent tirades against others. Thus, defendants were on notice regarding Brooks's violent proclivities.

Let's stop there for a moment. As a matter of fact, Dr. Lou, came in and told him, I spent the first nine years trying to reach him, those black soulless eyes, and then I've spent the rest trying to keep him locked away. Why, they even got a fact wrong, though. The fight wasn't early 2023? Wasn't it like September? It, well, it was in, the years are blurring now. Forget about the year. No, it was in, it was in September 2022. Yeah.

Because then by the time that, because punk was hurt, came back early springish, whatever, 2023, had the summer of collision where it was the best wrestling show on television, then he was gone, and so was that. Besides the fact that it's now an illegal filing that the bucks got their ass kicked, I would argue it says battered two fellow wrestlers, battered two company executives. Not two fellow wrestlers. It's a big difference. They were executives who walked into that room.

But anyway, let's continue. Rather than removing Brooks from the AEW roster of wrestlers, Tony Kahn made the decision to merely suspend Brooks for a few months. Brooks is one of A.A.W.'s most popular wrestlers, and Kahn did not feel that Brooks could be removed without a substantial loss in profit for AEW. further Khan has a very deep personal affinity for Brooks con made the conscious decision

their lifelong close personal friends con made the conscious decision to keep Brooks as part of AEW although he knew that Brooks is prone to lashing out in violent episodes and to injure others he's prone to doing it he's prone to that he made a habit of it

he's he ranks right up there with arthritis and polio is one of the three great cripplers. The list of men that this man is left in his wake a trail of broken bones and busted eyes and blood spilled, tears shed.

Oh, the humanity. Beyond his deep feelings for Brooks. Why did they put that in a fucking legal brief? You know, this is some kind of shit that Mike tonight would have to read with no inflection in his voice written by shit-stain at a T&A production meeting. Despite his deep affection for the man.

Beyond his deep feelings for Brooks, Khan represented to AEW executives and wrestlers that the TBS Network had produced the AEW Collision Show contingent upon Brooks's involvement as the show's star. This was all the more reason for Khan to keep Brooks in spite of his violent propensities.

There were violent proclivities before. At least they're changing it up now at each thing. Propensities and proclivities. Wait a minute. I thought proclivities was that spot on the female sexual organ that most guys can't find. No, no, no. Proclivity.

Let's go back to this. During his suspension, for unknown reasons, Brooks made it known that he despised Nemeth. Nemoth did nothing to Brooks whatsoever, but Brooks made it well known that he was angry with Nemith. Brooks has a notorious history for taking violent action against others for no reason. Fucking Al Capone got better pressed than this. What is the entire, have we come up with a number of people that punk has punched?

Is it two or three? Well, the Jackson's? Well, I guess okay, that counts as two, but it isn't the same. It's one fight. He got a two for that day. Is that like a three-point shot in basketball? I don't know who else got hit just, you know, getting in the way of a fight. That's what happens.

People get hit. Well, yeah, but, you know, so there's two. And then Jungle Jack off, he front face locked him. Right. Who else has he laid waste to? in the wrestling business throughout his 20-something year career now? I don't know. Are we looking something?

Can people Google this and send it to us? Again, the propensity may not have gone public, who knows, but let's go back to this. Hold on here a second. You know, Hotchkis rearranged my desk. I can't reach my dictionary. Good. Or I would look up propensity and see how many times you have to do something before it's a propensity.

On April 16th, 2023, Nemeth contacted executives with an AEW to tell his employer that he was worried. Brooks would come back to the wrestling circuit, following a suspension, and assault Nemmuth. When did he tweet that Siam Punk was the softest man alive? When was that?

Somewhere around that time. And that's the thing, okay, I've poked the bear, but I don't want to get in front of the bear while I've got peanut butter smeared all over my face. But at the same time, again, if Nick Nimeth ever thought, and this was before that punk front face lock, jungle jack off. So basically, punk had kicked the shit out of the two guys that busted into his locker room that night. That was the sum total of it. And why would Nick Nimith

think that he was important enough in the scheme of things, in punk's life or anybody else's for that matter, that his nattering on Twitter would get him more than cussed out or potentially as what happened told not to

fucking come around no more. Don't come around here no more. Because you disrespected me. Don't come around here no more. Blame it all on Phil. Knee, knee, knee, knee. I thought you were doing Tom Petty. It went in a completely different direction.

But let's go back to, oh, go ahead. Nevertheless, why would he think he's that important, and punk's going to beat him up? He'd probably just cussed him out. On June 21st, 2023, following Brooks's return to the wrestling circuit, he assaulted Nemeth in the male locker room. Excuse me, male talent locker room.

Wait a minute, I thought he was good. He assaulted Nimeth in the male. male parts. That's what I thought she were going. In a menacing manner, Brooke shouted at Nemith, quote, do we have a fucking problem? Do we need

to step outside and handle this like men? Nemeth was cornered by Brooks and did everything where was the, where's the assault? Nemith was cornered by Brooks and did everything he could in order to de-escalate the situation.

The next day. I'm begging off. Quit. No, man, you got it all wrong. I mean, is he saying that CM Punk's saying to him, if you got a problem with Step Outside, that's the assault? Not an assault, but that's the assault? Apparently, that's the assault.

And the pepper. The next day, Nemeth was contacted by Tony Chivani and other executives from AEW to explain what happened. Nemeth calmly and factually explained that he was attacked by Brooks in the locker room. Attacked. Following the assault, nothing happened to Brooks

as far as punishment from AEW. It is well known in the wrestling industry that benching a wrestler is a form of punishment. That is, the wrestling performer is not scheduled for a match and thus is not paid.

Benching a wrestler is a customary manner of punishing a wrestler. Let's stop there for a moment. What are your thoughts on benching a wrestler? Is it the same as benching the right fielder? I think, actually, it's probably the weight bench there where he's bench pressing all the weight that he can handle.

No, it's the lawyer's term. Nobody says, we're going to bench this guy. We're not going to book him. And again, Nick Nimith was on a per-night contract. When we book you, we will pay you X. dollars when we book you and you're and and again you're talking about a dispute with the highest paid contract star in the company at that time or if he wasn't he should have been so how is this even a goddamn discussion dipshit you should have kept your mouth closed whether they're your

friends or not he punk doesn't care but if you're going to call attention to yourself by being a smart ass, then you lose. It's Hollywood and you're a bit player going up against Gloria fucking Swanson. Following the incident with Brooks, Nemeth greatly feared being benched by AEW. Nemeth spoke with AEW's in-house counsel and attorneys from Latham and Watkins, outside counsel for AEW. All of the attorneys promised that Nemeth would not be benched. Following his June 22nd conversation with Tony Chivani, etc., at Al, Nemeth was not booked for a match for over two months. Because Nemeth was not booked for matches, his income stream from AEW dried up.

More importantly, his popularity and marketability faded from being absent from the professional wrestling circuit. Wait a minute, he's on TV like five fucking times. he didn't have to be absent from the professional wrestling circuit he was absent from the company that he was working for what do they they were running at that time two times of a week and maybe was he was he working every night for ring of honor on youtube or whatever the fuck that we weren't aware so at worst or at best case they would have employed him on a full time basis eight days a month and he wasn't on a

a contract which meant he could book himself anywhere that he wanted to on any other day. On June 17th, 2020, and by the way, four of those days are Wednesday nights when nobody else runs in the fucking country anyway. On June 17th, 2023, Nemeth again contacted A.W.'s Legal Department to complain that he was being punished for doing nothing. It was then that Nemeth discovered the real reason why he was being benched, Brooks had insisted upon this. Because Tony Kahn had such a deep admiration for Brooks, bordering on an obsession,

Khan went along. Con went along with... Wait a minute, of all the things that you could have probably rightfully accused Tony Kahn of being somehow mentally obsessed with, would punk have been number one on your... fucking list. For a while, maybe, actually. But, you know, still, his deep admiration for Brooks

bordering on an obsession, Khan went along with Brooks's desires to ruin Nemith's career. Wait a minute. Boy, he'd have stopped there with a period, went along with his desires. To feel the piss of another man running down his family. I'm sorry, I mean... On April 12, 2023,

Nemeth was finally booked for an event in Greensboro, North Carolina. To feel the piss of another man running down his... Oh, I'm sorry. On the morning of August 12th, Nemeth was walking through the hotel lobby to board a shuttle to the sports arena, where the wrestling match would take place. So the job guys get a shuttle bus now, huh? He saw Brooks.

Brooks immediately took out his phone and began to text. A moment after that text was sent, Nemeth received a text from AEW supervisor Pat Buck saying that he needed to speak with Nemeth as soon as he got to the arena Upon arriving at the arena Nemith sought out Pat Buck Buck told Nemeth that he needed to leave the arena immediately and that travel would be arranged for him to fly out of the same day

Not just get back on the bus and go back to the hotel but you got to get out of town now. You got to get the fuck out of this town now. God damn it. What kind of fucking trouble have you caused us here? We got a plane ticket for you. We don't care where you land. Just fly somewhere.

Nemith was embarrassed and humiliated in front of other wrestlers who witnessed him being kicked out of the arena. More importantly, fans observed. And they really did. He didn't have to throw his bag out on top of him. Fans observed him leaving the arena. Pictures were taken, and the expulsion became viral on social media. I remember, don't you remember all the headlines?

Nimmuth leaves arena. With all the pictures, all those paparazzi photos, the fans were taking him leaving the arena. But the thing is, if you just printed the negative upside down, it looked like he was walking in. This humiliation caused irreparable damage. I guess they missed the word too The marketability and reputation of Nemith The entire episode

was engineered by Brooks Brooks demanded that Nemeth be told to leave and that he would be flown out of Greensboro immediately Khan Did you say flune He would be flown out

He would be He would be flune out of Greensboro immediately Day. Con, for his part, went along with Brooks out of his deep admiration. And sexual desire for, to feel the touch of his testicles. On August 15th, 2023,

Nemeth contacted A.W.'s legal group and complained... This is the greatest lawsuit I've ever read. And complained about being ejected from the event at the direction of Brooks. A.W. lawyers were themselves stunned. and could offer no explanation for the conduct of Brooks and Khan. They were gobsmacked. That's what Tony wants.

My lawyers said, what the fuck? They don't know what the fuck I'm doing. Yeah, I got to talk to my lawyers. I talked to your lawyers. They said you don't know what the fuck you're doing. Nemeth continued to follow up with AWA's legal department. Oh, excuse me. On November 18th, 2024, Nemeth wrestled.

for the last time for AEW. Nemeth continued to follow up with AEW's legal department. But wait a minute. Punk's been gone for a year and a half. Punk got fired. So why is this, why are punk's black balls or blue balls or whatever color punk's balls are still applicable to Nick Nemus,

or not Nick Nimman, Ryan Nemus, continued employment at his company where the other guy that he's suing isn't even there anymore and left acrimoniously. Where is his leg to stand on? Yeah, and again, if you're working in AEW and you don't have a contract, you're not one of the guys being paid to stay home,

you're working on a per night thing. You've got to do something else. And does this suit, where do they get to where punk was fired in September of 2024 or whatever it was? No, 23. We're nearing the end of what is here. On November 18, 20, 24,

wrestle for the last time for A.W. Nick Nemmuth, Ryan Nemoth. Nemoth continue to follow up with AEW's legal department in the hope of trying to resolve this situation. What is the situation? We don't want you to work for us anymore. And to avoid further conflict. As in, there will be a conflict unless you give me money. That's what it is. I want to, I want to work for you. We don't want that. There's the conflict. In a bizarre email. A.E.W. Attorney Chris Peck reached out and threatened legal action against Nemith and accused him of employing a ghost writer in his emails. Clearly you're not writing this.

Who's writing these emails for you? We've talked to you before. We know you're not capable of spelling all these words. November 25th, 2024, Brooks left AEW to wrestle for the organization's main competitor, WW. Wait a minute. What date? A wrong date, November 25th, 2024. A year later. It was 2023 and it was didn't even last until November. Remember, it was warm weather. Well, he debuted at Survivor Series, but he was already gone from the company from AEW before that. That wasn't when he left AEW. Yeah, no, he left AEW right after the stadium. The stadium. was September, right?

Let me go back to the last few here. Khan was heartbroken by the departure of Brooks, his idol, and that he adored in every way. The first time ever I saw your face, the earth moved in your eyes. Khan was heartbroken by the departure of Brooks, his idol, and that he adored in every way, Khan was furious with Nemeth

Khan believes that Brooks left AEW because of Nemith It was Nemith Nimmuth The defendants have embarked on a campaign The blackball Nemith from professional wrestling Specifically Tony Khan blames Nemith for Brooks leaving

AEW and has used his significant resources To make sure that Nemith Can never again make a living in wrestling Well, wait a bit, shouldn't he be able to, besides the fact that as we just mentioned, he's in TNA, which is now working with WW, and he's probably making about the same thing there. He's making an AEW. But how can they blame, shouldn't they blame Jungle Jack for punk being, since that was the, Nimith had nothing to do with any of that. He, yeah, you want to talk about what killed your way to make a living in wrestling, this suit?

But it was Perry that you would have to blame, and that should be the word blame for punk no longer being there, because he's the one that actually caused the goddamn mess, because he couldn't fucking stop being childish and shut his dick liquor either. And finally here, the conduct of each of the defendants was malicious in that defendants intended to cause injury to the plaintiff. defendants acted willfully and with a conscious disregard for the rights of the plaintiff and that's all we have from this purported suit

Ryan Nemeth has filed against AEW Tony Khan, CM Punk et al um who is Al I've always wanted to know you know again we'll see what happens this reads like it's a shakedown of Tony Con and anyone else he can get a few bucks out of like C.M.

or Shad Khan. This just... Well, he ain't going to get any money out of punk. And if you get money out of one con, you get money out of all the cons. I don't even know if it's... The more serious attempt is just to get go-away money just from Tony to settle a lawsuit and avoid bad publicity and the fans not liking him, which we know is a sore spot with Tony.

Or if it's more just to get publicity anyway, because it's written in such a ridiculous way that we couldn't stop laughing, reading it. That any serious barrister... He didn't get a paragraph. The first sentence was he's a successful actor and we started laughing. Well, yeah.

I mean, on the other side of this, well, I would say with anybody, but maybe because it's AEW. I would say normally on the other side of this would be a serious attorney, experienced, level-headed, reasonable, and well-versed in all the different ways that you could pick this fucking thing apart.

And it's ridiculous. But since it's AEW and their legal staff, holy mackerel, I don't, you know, I don't know. They picked a few doozies on that one since they've been in a wrestling business. Can I ask you a question, based on your experience in Titan Tower, and it was a long time ago, different company, a whole, everything, you know?

Is it the case that, any talent could just reach out to legal at any time, but any issue they feel they're having, they reach out to legal, not HR, not anything else, but legal? Why is he reaching out to their outside counsel and their inside counsel? I've got multiple occasions. What the hell is that about?

That's the thing. I guess technically, if any of the wrestlers back in the day had ever wanted to call the legal department, if they could pick up the phone call the office and asked for somebody and got put through and I don't know what the fuck they would have said. And unless there was some outstanding issue that they had with a contract or a, you know,

it wasn't common for anybody, especially that low on the food chain, to be calling the legal department discussing whether or not they were going to get booked. If they had an existing contract and they had an issue or something to do with royalties, it'd probably be the only reason I can think of when he'd be. but he would have ever been talking to the legal department. And since this guy didn't have a fucking contract, he was booked on a per night basis, which meant five times or 50 this year.

We don't know. And you'll find out when we do. Yeah, see, that's what I want to know. What kind of deal does he have? Because why would he, why would there be any expectations? Like whenever anybody else says anything or has a sob story, Tony gives them money or they give them attention or the fucking legal staff goes into turmoil and starts talking about they'll support them and die.

I'll love you till the end of time. Well, now they're praying for the end of time to hurry up and arrive because if they've got to spend another minute with you, they don't think they can barely survive. They will go overboard telling you, oh, we're going to work on this. And we're going to stay in touch with us. We're going to, instead of coming out and saying, you are a job guy, you are not important in the scheme of things in this roster.

You're on a per night contract. You instigated. of ill feelings with this guy, but he's gone, but we still don't want to use you because we got a million fucking wrestlers. So they have a nice life. But they were probably still going,

oh, well, we'll work out the situation or putting him off or just being mealy-mouthed. And so now he thinks, well, I'll sue these fuckers and they'll give me something. Or at least people will read this and it'll be everywhere. he gets to call Tony Kahn names in his lawsuit that everybody's going to read. The more people will read this because it's a lawsuit than if he'd have said this and

posted it on Twitter. So he gets to call Tony a fucking basically queer for punk. I wonder if he wrote this because I can't imagine a lawyer writing this. I mean, well, I can imagine a lawyer that would actually attach his name to this writing it because other people would have serious shit to do. do. This has no hope of anything other than an appeal to Tony Khan's sensibilities as far as I just want him to stop saying these things. Here, here, go, go. You were mean to me.

This is the only way you can get Punk and Tony Khan to talk just to go, this fucking guy. Well, I tell you, this fucking, are you talking about the first fucking guy or the second fucking guy? I don't even remember which number this fucking guy is. but yeah, it's publicity and it's a stunt and it's a Hail Mary. That's what I see it as a Hail Mary. I think Tony Khan, for all of his faults, he did not blackball Ryan Nemeth from, he's not the reason WWE's not going to hire Ryan Nemith. Tony Khan's not the reason.

You are correct. If Tony Khan could blackball someone, he would just send them to Bulgaria and pay them until they can leave. That's his way of blackballing people. But Jim, unfortunate for Ryan Nemeth, people like CM Punk, may have some friends, may know some attorneys,

may know the right attorney who knows wrestling, and will kick the shit at anyone who gets in his way. Well, you are correct about that, and that's why that back in the old days, back in the dark ages, the wrestlers weren't calling up the legal department, but now, if you've got a legal department,

the needs to be called to tell them that something's illegal, that they've legally done illegally, then we got a legal eagle that's going to be a beagle on top of your case, then he's going to turn into a bulldog and all those other aphorisms, and it's this man, the one, the only. Call Stephen P. News, an outlaw mud show for two. That's with the rest. That's right, ladies and gentlemen, the bulldog. that, well, he's got a warm and juicy nose like a beagle, but he's a bulldog in court,

and he will grab a bite of your milkbone underwear, and he will rip it to shreds until he gets what he wants. And I assure you, when Stephen P. New at newlawoffice.com, 8750, Steve, is on a suit of any kind, a leisure suit, a three-piece suit, a suit in court, or he's just going to suit you up, that suit will suit you is what I'm trying to say, Brian. Have you ever wanted to be suited by a suit?

You will be suited by the suits brought by Stephen P. New Law Office.com. 8750, Steve is the contact. Name a number for the person who can bring you to the promised land of justice. Oh, we have the time, but if I could only say what I want to say right here on the podcast, now. But more will be coming sooner or later, folks, about the various suits of Stephen. Much, much more than the suits of Stephen. The suits of Stephen are going to be more important than the coat of many colors.

I can't wait. I can't wait to tell you about what's going to come. There may be a whole line of new programming to tell you about what's been going on. But Stephen Pino, the man for you, 87750, Steve. Jim, I have a question here. sent the corny drive-thru at g-mail.com from John in Largs, Scotland. That hit where? He's in Largs, L-A-R-G-S, Scotland. Oh, I thought to you, Lards, like Criscoe, like fat.

Hi, Jim. Like Greece. Hi, Jim. I was wondering if there has ever been any protocol for if a wrestler suddenly has extreme diarrhea during a match. or even a manager, referee, an answer, anyone who is part of the show. And if you have any stories where something like this took place? Well, no, didn't we just talk about shitting yourself in a match not long ago?

Somebody had come up with that question and, and, and Dusty Rhodes had the muffler gimmick, and I talked about when I had diarrhea at the Smoky Mountain Spot Show and the principal of East High School, every time I'd take a bump or he'd land on me, I would shit myself. But it, I mean, I guess it doesn't happen as much in the old days, or as much now as it did in the old days, because people wrestle less often.

If you're working for a big company, if you're shitting yourself, then chances are they're going to say don't work, but you'll still get paid. Obviously, back in the day when a guy wrestled with diarrhea or stomach flu or whatever. It wasn't because he enjoyed the prospect because he needed to have the match to get paid. And if it was still, even today,

if it was a big pay-per-view match or something integral to television or whatever, I bet you, a guy would probably not reveal he was shitting like a goose every five seconds. He would try to get by with it regardless and wear dark colors. But it's going to happen as a course of life that sooner or later, you know, you're going to have eaten the Taco Bell or the Papa Murphy's calzone isn't going to be all the way cooked and shit's going to happen, no pun intended.

And, you know, then it happens. I mean, everybody would have a story. I have my personal story, but I would think everybody would have their own story of at various points when they had shit themselves either in training, more often now in modern times or in an actual match in front of people back in the old days. And it just, you went on with it.

Jim, several listeners have sent this in, so I might as well ask you. Vince Rousseau issued a tweet on February 21st. As my retirement plan now comes into form, I can tell you that on my 65th birthday, I will stop watching any and all WWF programming for good. So that leaves about 11 more months of me being one of the only podcasters who will be brutally honest with you about the poor, underachieving creative quality of the show. So enjoy the honesty and truth while you can.

Oh, my God. I think we have been fairly forthcoming in our thoughts and, opinions, but nevertheless, he's got to hog all the oxygen, take all the attention. He's going to be 65 and 11 months. Again, that makes me feel good because he's still a little, just a little inch older than me. One step closer to the grave there, pal. And he didn't say he wasn't going to watch any wrestling.

Does that mean that his new schick, as they say in the business, is how many movies as shit-stain been in lately. But nevertheless, is there going to be that he talks about the other wrestling and how bad he wants to work for the other companies if they would only employ him, but he's going to leave the WWE alone? Or is he going to be completely silent

and away from the fucking world where we don't have to suffer his presence? Is he retiring completely or just, I mean, I could say, I'm not going to watch any more wrestling that doesn't mean I'm not going to do any more shows. So we may not be rid of him yet. Well, there's the answer for everyone who says.

Or is this just another plea, another in the constant string, Daisy Chain, if you will, of desperate pleas for attention and look at me and somebody give me a fucking job that he has been doing for years now. He threatens to leave and go away, hoping someone will argue with him.

It's like the person that says, no, I don't want the last donut. And somebody else takes it and they get mad. Well, what are you? Well, there's the retirement update. We will now continue on with the show the stuff that people like. Jim, how about a little guest to program? Boy, howdy, I was thinking you'd never say that. All right, I got some programs here.

I got some interesting ones. I got some answers right over here. Let's start with this one. Make sure it has a date. Here we go. Yeah, we should mention just for the new folks, you take a program from your voluminous collection. My connection.

Or your connection. And you read me the card, and I, in my borderline mystical way, am supposed to get the place, the city or state, whatever, and the date of, same, the year. of saying. That is correct.

That is correct. And this first program here, there's a few things marking it up. Should I give you the card as it's listed, or should I give you the changes that were made? Give me the card that was listed. The opening bout, Jay Youngblood versus Dr. X. The second bout, Dale Lewis versus Dutch Savage. The third bout, Buck Vumoff. V-U-M-O-F-F

versus gorilla Steve Lawler all of those preliminaries one fall, 15-minute time limit a special bout Maddie Suzuki versus Playboy Buddy Rose and the main event

for a title I will not name the champions Lonnie Maine and Les Thornton versus John Anson and Sam Oliver Bass. And we are definitely in the Don Owens, Northwest Portland Territory. And just to go down the car, Jay Youngblood and X, I was thinking, are we going to the Mid-Atlantic here, the Carolinas,

but then Dale Lewis and Dutch Savage. brought me back and we stayed there because I remember Buck Zumhoff did have a run even though he broke in for Vern Gagne in Minnesota. He did have a run in Portland and Gorilla Steve Lawler. Didn't work that many places. I didn't remember him in Portland. But Maddie Suzuki and Buddy Rose again confirms it. And then Moondog Main and Les Thornton, John Anson and Sam Oliver Bass

note the initials there that was Ron Bass Outlaw Ron Bass and John Anson who why am I not remembering who he became

or why what I'm not sure let me look that up says Hollywood Hollywood California 263 pounds I swear we should know him as someone else

but nevertheless it's probably Portland I'm going to to say it was Portland at the sports arena. And the only thing I'm going back and forth on is whether the year was 1977 or 1978. And I'm going to go with 1977. Well, a good way to start today.

We are in Portland. Don Owen presents at the Portland Sports Arena. July 2nd, 1977. Boom! Because Jay Youngblood, was young. Dale Lewis and Dutch Savage were aging. Moondog Maine was still alive. Ron Bass had been Ron Bass the previous year and would be Ron Bass again. But yeah.

John, Hanson was also Carl Von Schatz. There you go. I knew he was somebody. And according to this, the turnbuckle, cruel weapon. The turnbuckle, 12 of them on every ring provided the callous wrestler with a formidable weapon. By running an opponent's head or back into the turnbuckle, he can cause considerable pain and often injury. Unfortunately, there is no way to remove the turnbuckle. They are a vital part of the ring,

providing the necessary resiliency and support. No one has yet devised a better way of supporting the ropes. But, in the hands of the underwomenes, earring wrestler, excuse me, uncaring, it's blurt out, but in the hands of the uncaring wrestler, or the unerring wrestler, they became a weapon almost as dangerous as a club. Really putting over their turnbuckles over there in Portland. Let's move to the next one here. This one is one of those ones that you'll probably get, maybe you'll get the year, it's more

of the story of what's on here. the opening bout The Hooded Terror versus Billy Graham Jesse James versus Big Rick Miller The giveaway match Pepe Perez

versus Hobo Brazil And finally the main event Wild Bull Curry versus Pat Sullivan Oh good Lord Well this has to be obviously a Jack Pfeffer production

and one would think with Bull Curry, it's Massachusetts, the Indies. Billy Graham, certainly that is not the superstar, one would think. Is there any picture to back that up? Certainly not the superstar. Certainly not. Okay.

And Jesse James, that was a real recognized wrestler for years and years. but yeah, with Hobo Brazil on the card, I've got a, Bull Curry is on top and an independent in Boston or the area and the year.

Would it be 64, 65? Is that your guess? Yes. The Boston Arena annex Thursday, August 18th, 1966. There you go. Tony Santos with Jack Feffer's brains behind him, but on the front cover,

Frankie Scarpa, the United States Heavyweight Champion, and it says, still no answer. And there's a picture of Bruno San Martino here. We are waiting, Mr. WWWA. That's interesting, not F, but A. Why won't Bruno meet Scarpa? Bruno San Martino, who did he ever really beat? Where did his belt come from? What value is it?

These are questions that fans have a right to know the answers to. Why doesn't he meet Scarpa? Is the WWWA afraid? Why does he wrestle the same wrestlers over and over? Come up with your answers, Mr. WWWA. Are you all afraid that the kettle might blow? the lid off. This is an open letter

to the New England wrestling fans, the pot, WWA, calling the kettle black. And under kettle, it says Santos. Well, and by the way, they'd only been calling at the WWWF for two years, so Femphor's probably,

ah, that World Fight Wrestling Alliance they got going out, the WWWD. Oh my God. I guess the same questions could be said about What was their champion at that point? The champion here is Frankie Scarpa. Frankie Scarpa.

Where did his belt come from? And what meaning does it really have? We would like to know. There's some interesting photos here. That's why they took Paul Bowser's goddamn greatest city, and they were running the Boston Arena Annex by 66. No wonder they were about to be absorbed by Vince Senior. All right, let's go to this one.

The first bout, Billy Parks versus Bobby Nelson, 60-minute time limit, two out of three falls. Jesus Christ, okay, we're going back a few years. The second event, Australian tag team bout. Billy Goals and Walter Palmer versus Rudy Kay and Benito Gardini. 60-minute, two out of three falls. Please refrain from smoking. The main event? Vern Gagne.

Refrain from smoking the main event. Vern Gagne, 222 pounds, versus Hans Schmidt, 235 pounds. Oh, good Lord. We are obviously in the Chicago area. And in the early 50s, Billy Gales and Walter Palmer,

Rudy Kaye, and Benito Gardine. were straight off of the, you know, the Chicago television and Marigold Arena and et cetera. And as Vern Gagne and Hans Schmidt were two of the biggest stars for Fred Kohler at that point in time, and Billy Parks and his friend Ozzie Nelson or whatever the fuck, opening the card, that's not big enough for a Chicago lineup. Would I be wrong? I know you can't answer, but would I be wrong? thinking out loud that it's one of the

the smaller towns around the is it Angola, Indiana? Is it one of the like the other smaller clubs as they used to say around the Chicago area not just Marigold Gardens but Rainbow Arena? I will give you that it's a club, or at least a spot show around Chicago. I will give you that.

Okay. Very good. The way you're putting this together is very good. Well, and then, you know, I can't really just be a shot in the dark to go which one. Because they were running in the early 50s, the Chicago metropolitan area would have four live wrestling shows every week at the smogold and at rainbow and wherever. And then the, you know, the big shows were at the international amphitheaters. So narrowing it down would be fruitless. Now the question is, what year would it be? And, oh, God, I think just because it's Schmidt on top with Ganya,

Schmidt wasn't on top until 52 or three, or was it, or maybe 53, 54, but it's before the, let's go with 1950 fucking three in suburban Chicago. Once again, great job today. we are in Salem, Illinois at the Salem Elks Lodge number 1678 Ah, that old place. March 31st, 1953.

Boom! Very good. Got a run going today, kind of. You do, let's go to our next one here. The opening bout Art Valentino, Detroit, versus Jack Atkinson, Dallas.

One fall 15 minute time limit. The second bout, Gene Albert versus Benito Mata. The third event, Ted McKay versus Mara Duba. Oh, excuse me, this is a tag bout.

Ted McKay and Mara Duba versus Chief Lone Eagle and Alvin Jones. The semi-final from Louisville, Kentucky, Jack Bernard versus Pierre Renee, Montreal.

And we have a double main event from Death Valley, the demon, Jack O'Brien, versus out of Boston, Nature Boy. Best two out of three falls, 60-minute time limit. And finally, the other main event,

Johnny Dobbs, Omaha, Nebraska, versus Irish Jack Kennedy, Dallas. Two out of three falls, no time limit. Kennedy and Dallas, huh? Jack Kennedy. Well, we are in Dallas or that environment, Dallas or Fort Worth or thereabouts in Texas. And this is an example of the... The names that you wrote a Benito Mada, Ted McKay and Mara Duba, and alone it was Alvin Jones brother of Marvin Jones, who was later on become a referee that was famous for having a big belly

in those white t-shirts and all the old 50s wrestling magazines. You've heard of Jack O'Brien. He was a level of name at the time, and Nature Boy was not Buddy Rogers, I assume, because his full name would have been used. He wasn't from Boston. And Jack Kennedy from Dallas was a guy that was used on top in Dallas. In 1953 and 54, when the only lasting name on this card, Jack Atkinson,

who was in the opening match, was a Southern Methodist University graduate who was just starting to appear on local wrestling shows at the Sportatorium in Dallas, or at the Fair Park Coliseum, I think they called it, when the outlaws in Texas, there was a promotional war, had set fire to the Sportatorium and tried to burn it to the ground and burned half of it.

And they were out at the Fair Park with the wrestling matches every week, while that was being rebuilt. And the sportatorium that you saw in the 80s on world class wrestling was the rebuilt sportatorium. It used to seat, I think, 6,500 instead of 4,500 or whatever. But that would put this at 1953 or maybe early 1954 because Jack Atkinson was still in the opening match.

And you can see that wrestling in Texas at that time in Dallas, wasn't a big money proposition because there weren't any of the big national names really doing anything at that point in time, possibly because of the promotional conflict that was going on. So Dallas, 1954, let's say. Oh. No, no, is it still 53? I gave it away, but you had it. I was disappointed. The Dallas Wrestling Club, Ed McElmore promoter, the Sportatorium, Tuesday, March 3rd, 1953. Oh, God damn it. All right.

A few interesting things in here. See and hear Candy Candido. Radio, movie, stage, and TV star on the Big D. Jamboree, Saturday, March 7th, 815 at the Sportatorium. Be here or tune in, KRLD. And then there's a section here. Heavyweight champion Dunn reveals new claim to title. Roy Dunn, right?

Affidavits confirm his claim, and there are a couple affidavits attached here. Who is the real champion, Dunn willing to meet any other title holder? Who is the real world heavyweight champion? Is it the man who now actively defends the same belt worn by Jim Lundas, Ed Lewis, and Everett Marshall? Who is the man, ready and willing to meet any challenger? That man is Roy Dunn. if you do not believe that he is as good as the new alliance champion Lou Thess, then wouldn't you think that the alliance champion would meet Dunn and settle the matter?

That's all Dunn wants. In fact, he will wrestle Thes for nothing and donate a sizable sum of his own to a charity just to meet Thes and clear the issue. What more could he do? Can you blame promoter Ed McElmore for backing Dunn? Would you do otherwise if you were a wrestling promoter? True enough, the done situation wasn't brought to light until lately as far as Texas is concerned. But once it was, McLemore was quick to put it before the public.

You can see what happened. Macklemore was cut off from his regular supply of alliance wrestlers, whether the wrestlers liked it or not. If they violate the trust, they are automatically blackballed almost anywhere but in Dallas. McElmore believes that he now has a fine supply of wrestlers, new ones, and probably some of your former favorites, will return when they realize it would be best for wrestling, for themselves, and for the fans. Reconsider these facts. One, Roy Dunn has a real championship belt.

Two, it's the real alliance belt awarded by an earlier 1930 alliance. Three, Dunn won the belt from Everett Marshall, a fully recognized champion who followed Louis, Lundas, and others. Four, this is the most important. Dunn still has the belt. And five, I gotta go to page 14, read the above affidavits. And they will clear up the reasons why Fez will not meet Dunn. One of Dunn's managers, Billy Sandow, who celebrated 50 years of wrestling on his 70th birthday in Dallas last January,

can give you a much fuller story about the championship picture. There are no facts known to us that we are trying to conceal. In fact, our case could be made ten times stronger although it would harm past favorite wrestlers and wrestling as a whole, which of course shouldn't be the desire of any promoter. In other words, we could spill our guts about all these motherfuckers, but we don't want to totally shit our bed because we got to live here. No matter how he presents his side of an issue.

The affidavits should give you a different light of the matter, and there are two affidavits, one from Jimmy Frank Raymond, a notary Jackson County, Missouri. Oh no, excuse me, sound by Howard Siegel. That's the notary. And the other one's sound by Max Erigain with a separate notary. And it's all about how Roy Dunn is the champion.

And Luthes isn't, what can you tell the audience about Roy Dunn? Well, Roy Dunn was an old-time shooter. He didn't have the, you know, reputation of the Frank Gotches or the Strangler Lewis's of the world. He was on top a lot for Muchnik in the 40s in St. Louis. You would see the name Roy Dunn popping up before the television era. But this ties into the promotional conflict they were having that I mentioned a minute ago when they burned the Sportatorium down or half of it down.

And I can't remember all the details and it's worth again looking up in various research books we don't have time to go into now. but Ed McLemore had been the Dallas promoter for some time, and his name was still in the early 80s, I think, associated with the Dallas office, but he had gotten on the outs with the alliance, and you saw the talent that he had on that card was not exactly household names even for that era.

And there was opposition running, and they'd had the arson thing, and they were trying to run each other out of business, and this is a grandstand challenge of the old days of wrestling. My champion is real and can beat your champion. Your champion is scared to fight my guy. The guy that was scared is always the big name with everything to lose and they didn't want to put the underdog over.

But years later, McLemore would get back in with the alliance and Southwest sports as it existed in the 1980. when it was world-class wrestling, Jack Adkison started on these shows in 1953 and 54, and then, as we, everybody knows, moved on, went to Buffalo, became Fritz von Erick, became a national star, went back to Texas,

got over as the top guy, and ended up buying into the promotion, and owning pretty much all of it with a few minor partners by the time it was all over with. So that was another thing that Dallas was not a big money wrestling center in the 40s and 50s. It was another thing like Florida, when Eddie Graham went to Florida, got over as the top guy, bought into the office, built the fucking thing. Fritz kind of did the same thing with not, not as much success in terms of, what Eddie Graham did with Florida and the number of markets that were all firing for so long,

but Fritz made wrestling in Dallas Fort Worth a big deal and was drawing ballpark crowds, 25,000 for his world title matches in the 60s. That had never happened to Dallas, Texas before in wrestling. So it's kind of an interesting history is even though Dallas is noted in modern times for being a big wrestling market, it wasn't that way. It was certainly no Chicago for the first 50 years of the last century. Am I droning now? Not at all.

And according to this program every Tuesday, watch wrestling KRLD TV, 1230 p.m. and 7 p.m. Listen to wrestling. K-L-I-F 515 p.m. So they really packed it on Tuesday. You know, Annette's, this is 1953. I bet you maybe the nighttime show may have been the Dumont Network or Hollywood Wrestling or whatever,

but 1230 in the day, I wonder did they have a local program at that point that early in Dallas? We'll see what we can find out. And let's end with this program. One last program here. The opening bout, one fall, 15-minute time limit, Cyclone Anaya versus Leo Wallach.

I've heard of him. The second bout? The second bout? The second bout. The second bout? Jack Claiborne versus Buddy Jackson. Hmm. The third bout, the final one-fall, 15-minute time limit about, Ray Gunkel versus Aldobagney.

The next bout, the semi-final, it's a handicap match. Keamooka agrees to toss both men in 60 minutes or forfeit his purse. Duke Kiamuka versus Rita Romero and Black Guzman, or Guzman, I guess he would be Blackie Guzman. Guzman. Manuel Blackie Guzman. And the main event, two out of three falls, 90-minute time limit. Chris Tolus versus Bull Curry.

Oh, good Lord. Mm-hmm. Okay. I believe we have ended up in Texas again, but there's a strong case that could be made for a little Florida. But no, now that I'm looking at it, okay, Cyclone Anaya was a journeyman name that I would think would probably have been around in the middle of his career at this point in time. Leo Wallach, was he Chet Wallach's brother?

Chet and Leo Wallach, he later became a reference. referee, I think. Jack Claiborne and Buddy Jackson were both black wrestlers, and if you didn't read it on this lineup, I bet you they were billed as either top Negro stars battle or potentially

even some type of American or United States Negro championship involved. Let me answer that while you ask it. Gentlemen, Jack Claiborne, the Negro wrestler with springs of steel in his legs will make his bow in Dallas tonight when he faces

big and tough buddy Jackson and you just read me the goddamn the town oh goddust hold on we've still got a year I knew it was Texas you did I knew it was Texas to begin with

Ray Gunkel is a fish out of water here because he would be more noted for being a Georgia wrestler or in the southeastern United States but he was also an NCAA champion

before he was a pro, and he did travel a little bit in the various territories. And I'm going to say that this is probably before that he became a big star in Atlanta. Aldobogni was tag team partners with Bronco Lubich, who became the referee in Dallas, noted for not being able to go down and count because he was so old. Duke Keimoko would go on to greater fame in Florida, but again, this is before he became. an integral part of the Florida office. Rito Romero was a huge baby face in Texas and especially West Texas. And Manuel Black, Miguel, I should say, Miguel Blackie Guzman,

was one of the top names in the history of Lucha in the, I think, even late 40s and 50s. And he ended up at the end of his career in the middle, late 70s, for some reason, and living in Indianapolis and doing jobs for Bruiser. Chris Tolos and Bull Curry in the main event, Curry was a huge draw in Texas in this time period. And Chris Tolos was John's brother, but was often a single. And because of the people involved in where they are, this has to be the early 60s.

You tipped it to Dallas. I was going to go with Texas anyway. and would this be 1961, 1962? Huh, interesting. No, it wouldn't be. No?

This is Tuesday, January 9th, 1953. Shit, I was 10 years off. Let me read just something here on the cover. This is, by the way, Pappy Showland, where you see wrestlers a proven ability.

Facts. In case you have read or heard any grandiose claims about last week's comparative progress in the wrestling war, here are the facts. Pappy Sholand drew the biggest crowd it had to date. A capacity throng of excited fans. Better than $2,200. The other place failed to gross 600. And in case you have read false and misleading statements about Doc Sarpolis, being with the four, former Dallas promoter as a team,

mark it down as more propaganda designed to confuse you. And by the way, that's Doc Sarpolis was the promoter that the Funks always, you know, mentioned out in Amarillo in West Texas, and he was a early member of the NWA and blah, blah, blah, major name in behind the scenes in wrestling. And he had flipped over to the other fucking group at one point and then went back as I recall but that's why

the West Texas was invading East Texas and there was all this drama going on bet your money that Sarpolis is not with them never has been with them and never will be with them

and that's the card here so we have a one from each side the opposition Ray Runkle threw me the fuck off because I was thinking well I didn't remember he started so so early and I was thinking is this maybe

before he would have gone to Georgia somehow but yeah I fucked up majorly on that all right well we will end with that one you began with such success yeah so let's end on the fuck up all righty then well good day to you too you know we went a long time next week from the files returns we'll have another fun one next week and next week more the usual hilarity but until then the drive-thru is closed see just nothing's working today it's just not happening

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