Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 386
Episode Date: April 4, 2025This week on the Drive Thru, Jim reviews WWE Raw and Smackdown! Plus Jim previews AEW Dynasty, plays Guess The Program, and talks about Bill Mercer, Mickie James's comments about ring attire, and much... more! Also, the story of another incident on Jim's lawn, and songs! Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: CornyDriveThru@gmail.com Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Merch! https://arcadianvanguard.com/ Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello again, friends!
And you are our friends.
And welcome back to another edition of Jim Cornett's drive-thru
on another sunny, funny day,
here for another sunny-fony drive-thru.
I'm your host, The Great Brian Last.
It's going to be a ring of ding-dong dandy today.
Here he is, the leader of the cult of Cornette.
We have reviews, and of course he'll be answering your questions.
Mr. Jim Cornett.
oh for heaven so after that in a godda divida intro and the morning i got going on and the things that you
you know brian people say that i never admit when i'm wrong and i never change my opinion and there's
no way to i'm rock solid on everything there's no way to get me to deviate or variate or perpetrate in any way
anything different.
And I say every year,
spring is my favorite time of the year.
I love to spring. I love to sing
about the springa.
And the birds start chirping and they lay in the eggs
and the little babies come up out of the nest
and the leaves sprout and the dogwood blooms
and everything's so beautiful.
Well, I was wrong.
spring sucks because after we spent the winter time being encased in a goddamn block of ice for like a month straight
with all of that horse shit then it hasn't stopped rain and not just raining but storming
storming lightning thunder tornado warnings wind blowing deluge of rain over and over and
over again.
And just Sunday,
we had the severe weather go through.
A tornado passed.
I'm going to say eight to ten miles as the tornado flies south of the castle here.
And here wasn't even as bad as the storm we had last August
and toppled that giant tree over in the back.
But there was a tornado down the road.
And that was one of three or four,
I believe they're still doing the surveys around here.
One of them down in,
and I believe it was Mead County,
was 500 yards wild,
500 yards wide
and stayed on the ground
for like 30 miles or whatever the fuck.
They were way out of the metropolitan area
or other shit would have taken place,
but nevertheless.
And we just got finished with that,
and they're saying that tomorrow night,
another goddamn line is going to come through,
that has twice the wind energy and looks a lot worse on the radar.
And if it comes through late at night, it's going to be bad enough.
But if it speeds up and comes through when it's real warm,
because this morning it was 35 fucking degrees,
but tomorrow it's going to be close to 80.
If it comes through when it's real warm,
I believe the weatherman's exact words were,
we're going to be in big trouble.
They're saying that shit on television.
And once that that happens sometime overnight tomorrow night,
then for Thursday and Friday and Saturday and Sunday,
it's going to rain.
The storm front is going to sit on the top of us,
and they're forecasting 10 to 15 inches of rain
in some areas of this particular beleaguered part of the fucking country,
which I believe has never happened before in four days.
So I get up and I watch the weather this morning, Brian,
and I get that good news to really lead me to be chirpy first thing out of bed.
And then, of course, I've, you know, got the pleasure of been able to watch Raw this morning from last night
so that we can talk about that.
and I look out to front window at 8.30 in the morning or whatever,
when I,
after I've taken my morning Russo and brushed my two-fers and done,
but I come down,
I look out to front window,
what do you think is in my front yard?
Pulled off the road is a giant pickup truck and a big van
sitting on the grass in my yard right outside of the other side of the fence.
A pickup truck and a van?
A truck and a van.
It's like it's a goddamn,
What is the fucking, is there a press camped out?
Have I done something overnight I wasn't aware of?
And then I look down there and I see some guy in one of those fluorescent outfits digging a hole in my fucking yard.
And so I go down there and I, you know, it's, as I mentioned, it was 30 something degrees.
It's brisk.
Had I go down there and I said, excuse me, what the fuck are you doing?
who say you can park in my yard here and why are you digging this hole?
And he stared at me.
And I said, hello?
And I mean, he's standing knee deep in a fucking hole about 20 feet off the edge of the
fucking road in my yard.
And I'm obviously asking, why are you doing this?
But he can't speak English is what he manages to communicate with.
He's pulling out his phone and he's calling somebody.
and he's given me the like the one minute fucking gimmick.
And I said, you can't speak English, no.
And it's not his fault he can't speak English,
but whoever sent him to somebody's property
and park in their fucking yard and start digging holes
without being able to tell said property owner
what the fuck he was doing,
that guy got a problem with.
So I said, call this guy over here.
I said, in the meantime, stop digging.
And somebody get these trucks out of my yard, right?
It's already rained two inches yesterday or whatever the fuck.
You're going to tear up my goddamn grass.
Well, then two other guys in the fluorescent come around the corner of the bush
from the, they're over on the neighbor's yard.
And they come around it.
I said, the trucks, I'm pointed the trucks, and they're going that way.
I said, get the fucking, I'm Vamuz, right, trucks out of here, off my yard.
And they get in the van and back up and start pulling out.
out and then I'm telling the guy in the hole, he's still digging.
I said, no.
Stop digging until somebody tells me what's going on around here.
And he nods and then turns around starts digging.
So I took his shovel.
I pitched his fucking shovel.
I said, no, stop of the dig.
Wait, what do you mean you pitched his shovel?
You threw a shovel?
I grabbed his shovel.
I pitched his fucking shovel away from the hole so that he could not dig anymore
until somebody told me what they're doing around here.
Because I don't know what he's
Even if I can't speak Spanish
I could have told if he was telling me
in a similar situation if I was in his front yard
digging a fucking hole and he was gesticulating
in the manner that I was
I could have understood stop digging
You weren't afraid once you grab this shovel
and then threw it that he was going to get up
and try to fight you or anything?
He's in a fucking hole!
I've got the king of the hill have you ever played brian for heaven's sake but i don't believe he
wants to fucking get in a goddamn fight over whatever job it is that he's doing it i've yet to
discover so then down the hill comes a truck and pulls in the garage and i's or not the
driveway and i said is this the guy i'm pointing it yeah yes okay great he gets out i said
why are all these vehicles parked in my grass and what are you doing digging
holes here. And you know what he said? I said, you speak English, right? Yes. Okay, then I asked that question.
You know what he said to me, Brian? This is a guaranteed mood settler. He said, first of all, sir,
you need to calm down. Number one, that's not a good thing to say to me under any circumstances,
but B, I was calm compared to obviously what was about to transpire of what would normally
be transpiring when you see somebody in front yard desecrating your property.
And I said, I am calm.
Who said that it was a good idea to park these cars on my grass?
And what are you digging his hold for?
Well, we're putting in a fiber optic.
I said, what does that have to do with making my place a parking lot?
And what do you mean?
Oh, like, oh, fuck this.
I'm going to go down there and cut it soon as they,
fucking put it in out here to you that.
You can't do that. That's a federal offense, but I was thinking
faster internet is what I was thinking.
Oh, fuck you. I'm
thinking faster way to fucking sing-sing.
But anyway, back to this fucking guy.
I said, again,
does anybody go tell me
without asking or telling me
what to fuck, you just started to start digging holes
and parking in my fucking yard?
And that's
what we're putting in the fiber
optic and we have a
28-foot easy
and I said, okay, again, your truck's farther in, the truck is farther in,
because the fence is 40 feet back.
Again, and he said, so with the easement, we can do whatever we want.
That's the second.
I said, well, I got a fucking hammer.
And I can do whatever the fuck I want.
And if you don't get that truck a dig whatever you're going to have to goddamn dig around
here but if you don't get that truck out of here five minutes i'm taking fucking hammer to it and
then as i start to go he said go ahead and do that or some words to that effect i'm like
motherfucker you know what we're right there and the little voice is going hit him get him hit him right in
face right there because i'm still bigger than this guy is too and he and him standing in a fucking
hole hit him but at the same time there are many witnesses and i can't go to jail i got to record
today.
You know what?
Turn around.
I went on the other side of the fucking fence, the fridge drain,
grabbed the fucking rock out of the,
you know, the round gravel you're putting the French drain.
I said, this is my right away around on this side of the fence,
and I chook that fucking thing.
I was aiming for glass, but unfortunately,
it dinged off his fucking bumper.
He said, I'm a hosta linguine,
whatever the fuck he said, I don't know.
And I said, now I'm going to.
now I'm on my right of way and here you are coming around here this way and talk about it,
where at least I have the right of property apparently, according to what he said.
I'm farther than 28 feet back.
He wouldn't come around there and I wasn't going to go back over there.
So I said, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, and fuck all of you.
And move that fucking truck.
And I come back up the drive because also did I mention it was 35 degrees and I'm out there
flip-flops.
Come back up to drive
and fucking stew for a minute
and look out the window
and the truck's gone
and the guys were gone too.
Everybody, they were,
now there was some guy up in the neighbor's yard
to the right at the top of the hill
in his front, digging
some hole in his fucking place.
But all of my people left
after digging a couple
of fucking holes.
What the fuck? Well, then
just as we were starting to
goddamn record,
I look out and there's a goddamn
machine in my
neighbor's yard that they've got,
it looks like a fucking giant chainsaw
in the back of it and they're digging a fucking
trench in his yard.
But then
they went 10 feet and then I looked
out again and they're
gone again. The fucking thing
's sitting there but you can't find the people.
There are no people, Brian.
So I don't know what the
fuck they're doing around here.
I don't want the,
they can hop-scotch me on the fiber optic.
I just got the goddamn blistering speed internet.
And I don't want to,
I've just fucking got the drainage fixed down there
and put the nice fridge drains in
and fucking grass is growing now.
They're trying to come and dig all the shit up again.
Have any of your neighbors said anything?
I don't know that they're around.
because I definitely know that the fellow next door would have been down there snooping.
He's not as volatile as I am.
He's an elderly gentleman, whereas I'm still in the piss and vinegar stage of life.
But he'd be asking a ton of fucking questions.
So I don't know.
This is all just sprung on me this morning while I'm trying to do my job here.
Is there anything worse than the arrogant city worker?
the dead city worker
would have been worse
worse for you
if I had a hammer in my hand
and the voice had been loud
the voices talked to me
and if it had talked a little louder
I'd have hit him in the head with a hammer
what do you think so?
I don't even leave the property
they come to me
when is the last time
I had a fucking issue
with anybody in any public place
or anywhere except right
fucking here
where they won't leave me alone
I think Stephen
would have a good
defense saying that he is known for wielding a racket, not a hammer. This sounds like it could be
anybody. Yeah, it could have been a fucking, you know, miscellaneous hammer villain fellow from down
the road. It's been committing all those hammer crimes. I was hoping they would send the cop
and it would be the same guy from Mustang Hill. You're the guy yelling? Yeah, see, you could have
heard me now from the new precinct over there. So you still have these giant holes? Can you see
them from your office? Well, it's right on the other side of the, there's four. There's four
40 feet in between my front fence and the road, which I did specifically to give all the electric people and the fucking water people and everything room.
But once they've finished all of their work that we assumed that everybody was going to be doing, we didn't count on this fiber optic business.
Who gives a shit?
Put it on the goddamn, there's a pole down there.
There's poles all over here.
If you want to run something, there's already wires there.
Just put the wires with the other wires.
Why are they digging everything?
Why are they digging up the road, Brian?
Have you ever seen that movie?
Falling down?
Oh, of course.
I haven't seen it in years.
That was a great movie, Michael Douglas.
Yes, every time I've watched that with anybody, especially Stacey, they have likened me to the central character in many, many ways.
You said every time I've watched that with someone, how many times have you watched that?
That's not really like a, hey, let's share a good night movie.
You got a movie.
No, if that movie happens to be on, it's on the TV regarding whatever we're doing.
But I love it when he takes that there.
Yeah, fucking tell me, rude-ass motherfucker.
I just want a fucking burger.
You're a fan of vigilante justice.
The way he does it.
The way he does it.
He did it with a flare.
Oh, Charles got a little too fucking cool for school with it.
What does that mean?
Michael Douglas was more like, I'm just, if you just leave me alone, I'm not even hunting you.
You're bothering me.
I'm just trying to, I'm going home.
Whereas Bronson was like, I'm going to get even with every motherfucker in sight.
So is it, you know, I'm just trying to, I'm trying to stay home here.
Just leave me the fuck alone.
I'm home.
I won't yell at anybody if you leave me the fuck alone on my own home and property.
So you think they're going to come back?
Sounds like they have incomplete work.
Well, I don't know what they're doing.
They do something and then they leave and then they brought another piece of equipment and do 10 feet of work somewhere.
And then they go away and there's flags down and then there's not.
I don't know what's happening.
And it's the city?
It's not a utility or anything?
Well, who is in charge of the fiber optics of the situation?
I don't know in your area.
I mean, over here years back in a lot of places, Fios by Verizon had the fiber optics everywhere.
Well, I mean, they did.
I don't know if the executive that runs the company is the one who's out here digging the fucking trench.
But who, whoever is doing this, they're using the county right of way of 28 feet or whatever the fuck.
And you ever received any kind of notice?
Nothing was like sent to you in the mail.
Well, they can't.
They have, but they've stuck flags in the yards of all up and down the road and the next road and the road over and they're doing all.
But they're orange flags and yellow flags.
And I looked at my.
and it said gas line.
And I'm like, okay, the gas line may be buried here,
but I don't have any fucking gas.
So they're checking for something,
but who knows what?
And then they show up and start digging fucking holes.
I guess we'll see how this go.
How close were you to having a hammer?
Was there a hammer nearby?
If I could hammer in the morning
and then I could hammer in the evening
all over his head,
I had a hammer on the forehead.
I had a hammer on the chin.
and I had a hammer on his
noggin between his ear and his other ear
all over his head.
All right, well, you guys wanted songs
to return to the show, there it is,
if I had a hammer by Jim the Hammer Cornette.
But this is happy talk.
So this is the, yeah, this is called
the bitch fest episode of the drive-thru here.
And hopefully we'll do a show here in a few days
if we haven't either blown away or washed away.
With what's in.
I didn't even think about that.
If they're giant holes there,
I mean,
they have to do something quickly
if the weather's about to really turn.
Well, that's another thing.
I'd say, oh,
thank you for bringing that up
because I said,
as wet as it's been,
you're parking on my yard
and you're digging holes
when it's about to rain a foot.
What are you fucking doing?
So now they've,
at least,
so far,
they've dug a 10, 12, 15 foot
trench in my neighbor's yard
unless they fill up by tomorrow
is going to have a foot of rainwater in it.
over the next four days where it will be severe weather and unsuitable
for anybody to be out there doing any fucking thing.
So they're going to make a goddamn mud trough.
You needed to see the visual of this,
and just be in the moment, Brian,
to understand why I wanted to throttle this motherfucker around his goosele pipe.
I can understand.
No one wants an outlaw mud trough.
Nobody wants an outlaw mud trough.
That's for sure.
And I'll tell you what.
Well, let's, you know, this is your show, and we got all kinds of new and exciting things to talk about.
But I've, again, before we get anywhere else, I've got to go to my email here, Brian, pardon me.
I'm not as quick as you are on the switching around and everything, but we have an update on the mystery that has taken over our lives over the past couple weeks.
Elijah from North Cross, Georgia, whose father was from Nigeria,
swore that Jerry the King Lawler was part of the IWA television show
that was broadcast over there in the 80s.
And we said, well, everybody else, Ernie Ladd Mill Moschorus,
by Igor, everybody else you mentioned,
but Lawler never worked for them.
And then he, along with a couple other people,
had sent the clip, cut and paste results of an IWA event
at Roosevelt Stadium in Jersey City, New Jersey.
And there was Jerry Lawler in the preliminary match.
And we said how, again, we debated how this was possible.
Well, this is from Chris from Texas.
Because he went to the newspaper archives, whichever ones he was studying also.
And the report on that show on August 7, 1975,
it tells about all the matches that we spoke about
and everybody that was there
and then it said, Daisy May,
upset Maria DiLeon,
and Jerry Lawler, L-O-L-L-E-R,
Jerry Lawler was an unpopular victory by a pin
over Dan Sharp.
And I have no explanation
for why,
was a Thursday night, Lawler was just again coming back into the Memphis
territory. He'd been gone since January. He was there in Memphis that Monday. Remember,
we found that show. Yeah. And,
and when they would have had to have flown him. It's not like he was going to drive to
Jersey City, New Jersey. It's not like he had just come back to work for Jerry
Jarrett, who still technically was part of the NWA with Goulis, who was not
working with anybody that was going to run opposition to Vince Sr.
or eventually Crockett in the Carolinas.
So it's still, I'd love to know if anybody actually was there and saw him.
And the thing is, a lot of people are saying, well,
stars made appearances in different places, you know, shots here and there,
but this was before.
No, this is different.
No, nobody besides, and I'm not belittling Lawler,
but this was in 1975,
except for the Tennessee territory
and to a lesser extent,
never having been a main event guy
in Florida and Georgia,
he'd never been anywhere.
So this was so odd.
And he would apparently,
to the best of our ability,
never worked for him again
since we didn't know
we worked for him this time.
So that's the oddest thing
that I've ever seen.
Just wild, weird, wacky stuff, Ed.
Also because you think you would have heard something about it.
You know, the various issues that Jared and Lawler had over the years,
you know, they talked about it.
You know, they both had, they both had no problem talking about it,
never heard, and then Jerry came back and went to work outlaw in New Jersey that week,
and then he came back again the next week.
Now, this is the only thing we have found,
because I found a few listings last time,
I think it was from when it was cool.com.
No mention to Jerry Lawler, had the other matches.
This is a mention of a Jerry Lawler.
Now, I guess if you had heard the name by the ring announcer
and you never saw him or read his name before,
that could be how you spell it,
but it doesn't even say Lawler.
Well, and this is a newspaper article.
It has a byline by Mike Rowan,
doesn't mention what news,
it's from, but it's local paper coverage, probably not even the New York Times, the Jersey
City Journal or whatever, but it has the rundown of the card that kind of seems like it would
be written or helped out by one of the promoters. To the wild cheers of the crowd, the South American
pair defeated the Mongols, but the excitement was just beginning. He reached for the microphone
and blah, blah, blah. Eighty-one, five. Eighty-one hundred fans.
he goes into detail on all of the matches.
And then also Daisy May upset Maria Delion.
Jerry Lawler was an unpopular victor by a pin over Dan Sharp at 440.
And that's the only line about that match.
So they flew Lawler from fucking Memphis to New Jersey to beat Dan Sharp in four minutes
and never return.
I don't.
It doesn't.
make too much sense.
And again, I'm tempted to
just call the king. I've talked to him
ages, but just call the king.
But like I said, he probably wouldn't
remember.
And because he
was like, do we do that
last week? Forty years ago.
Whatever.
And he always talks about it. I can't
remember. The thing
was, it's not like he's mentally deficient.
He never gave enough
of a shit about a lot of this
to remember. You know who
may know if it was him or not Bill Apter.
I don't know if he shot...
Son of a bitch!
I don't know if he shot that show or not,
just because I don't know how it would have been
looked politically.
Yeah, I don't know if Vince McMahon-Signor
would have said, okay, you can't shoot the garden
because you shot that show.
But if Jerry Lawler was in the New York tri-state area,
by 75, would Bill Apter have already met him?
He might not have met him,
but he would have known who he was
because the first articles in the
after magazines about Lawler started in about 75
after that big run in 74 where it's like, holy shit.
So that he started running stuff in 75 and the
God damn it, what year was the Bert Reynolds centerfold?
Oh, that was before that.
Yeah, that was before then, I think, right?
Well, but yeah, but no, but Lawler did the takeoff.
Oh, I thought you meant Bert's one.
Yeah, I know.
Well, I kind of, I kind of did both.
but what I'm meaning is,
is it,
and for the kids out there,
what magazine was it,
was it,
was it,
was it Playgirl or was it Cosmopolitan?
I thought it was Playgirl,
but now,
probably Playgirl,
yeah,
but, you know,
they all wanted to see Bert's wing a ding.
And Bert Reynolds,
a sex symbol movie star of the era,
did a nude centerfold for the newsstand magazine,
and it just got so much,
news. Covering his parts, though. Covering. Covering. Well, yes. Because Lawler did a play on that.
Well, yeah, I'm about to, hold on. Who's, who's fucking his dog? You're just holding his head.
Lawler did a play on it. Whereas, whereas Bert Riddles was, of course, yes, he was covering his bits with, what was it, the cowboy hat?
Or whatever the fuck he had over his, over, you know, is, what did they call it, twig and berries?
Lawler used the crown, and he did a takeoff on the bearskin rug of Bert Reynolds' nude center.
And not only did after run it, but actually they had black and white prints,
because there was a black and white magazine anyway, prints made eight by tens and tried to sell
them at the fucking table.
And teeny saw him the first week, I got one.
But teeny saw him the first week.
He's like, no, we're not doing it.
Put him back in the fucking suitcase.
but anyway where were we going with that who would know if lawler was there who would be aware of
we'll after we got we got we got I'm writing down a note Willie if you're listening but I'm
going to send you an email yeah we hear from every now and that when we mention them
re loller all right we're just making this up now as we go a lot well we're going to get to
the bottom of this kids that's right Hawaii well it's your show uh it is
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That was my show. And I'll have you know that we had more viewers on Friday night at 10 o'clock on TBS that they do now on Wednesday night and Saturday night put together.
Well.
Because it was my show. Before we get to some of the shows that took place, Ron SmackDown.
and there's things to talk about.
Let's talk about a few things first.
Jim, something we did not have an opportunity last week to talk about
because it happened during a period of time.
We were getting ready for these shows,
and we had a lot of things planned,
but the passing of Bill Mercer last week.
Yes, and 99 years old, I guess he, except for a fellow from Mexico,
he may have been the oldest living wrestling personality,
or something to that effect.
but it was great to see they covered a lot more than his wrestling involvement in, you know, the articles.
Obviously, most of it was wrestling websites, but he was famous at other circles,
and they covered him primarily for his other exploits.
He'd been a teacher at North Texas for like 40 years in broadcasting journalism.
He had been a reporter.
He'd done wrestling back into the 50s.
and then took a break for quite a while because he was a real life news reporter and broadcaster.
He is the guy who actually officially informed Lee Harvey Oswald that he was being charged with the murder of John F. Kennedy.
He was covering it on the scene for one of the local stations.
He broadcast all kinds of sports.
That's how Fritz got him involved again.
He had done it in the 50s, but then Fritz brought him back because he was so,
well known in the community and he was a real sports voice to those people it was like having your
you know your major football or basketball commentators and whatever your market is doing the
wrestling show too and he did uh the world class show up until almost to the end but my god
40 years ago when i knew him he was almost 60 that's just insane i mean
he's had an incredible life going from, you know, early television and broadcasting to real news,
to multiple sports, to fame in wrestling and being a teacher.
He's got everything in the world named after him and broadcasting and journalism and things
like that in Texas.
It was just, he's a really nice guy and really, like, like Lance Russell.
for the people of Texas. Does that make any sense? He was just a nice guy. He was kind of local,
but still they knew he was a big deal, and they could believe him when he talked to him.
And he wasn't a professor like Gordon Solie. He wasn't really teaching him anything. He was just
letting him know what was going on, and he had the inside scoop. I almost feel like credibility-wise,
maybe not a perfect analogy, but similar to Ed Waylon.
with fans of Western County.
Oh yeah, but much less pomposity.
Right, just in terms of the credibility.
Ed Whalen was a, was credible before wrestling and beyond wrestling.
He brought that to wrestling.
Bill Mercer, same thing.
The comparison of Lance Russell,
I almost feel the comparisons better to talk about
two guys that started as outsiders
that never looked down on wrestling,
that understood it,
that could talk to it.
Whenever I saw a Bill Mercer interview,
whether it was in any of the Von Erick documentaries or
various things throughout the years,
he never looked down on wrestling.
He understood that it was an important part of his career,
and, you know, I think some people
do, and I think the people, you know,
I always found his perspective very interesting,
because he was such a credible guy doing
something that a lot of people, especially then maybe,
would mock every now and then.
He did it, and he had no problem with it.
Well, you know, and it's a good comparison with Lance,
and both they both lived to be 90, you know, whatever also.
And just went so many eras of broadcasting.
But Bill was even more,
Lance got, once he got involved with wrestling and Jarrett's company,
that had been 25 years later or whatever.
He was mostly a television executive.
And then Jarrett's company took off.
And he just hired Lance, you know, full time at that point.
Well, full time, Lance still was more closely.
involved with the promotion. He did the Saturday morning
TV, the Monday night announcing
another house show once
a month and
you know, that was full time for Lance
but he didn't
again go back out and
go into real television
again. So Mercer
was just, you know, is amazing he kept
his finger in everything.
But at the same time
this guy, he's such a
experienced broadcast
at the time I'm there, I'm what, I'm 23 or 24 or whatever.
And he did the local promos.
So, you know, he was trying not to break,
but everyone's why you could see he had the twinkle in his eye when I'd try to do that.
I'd try to break him because Mark Lawrence was impossible.
It was like Mark Lawrence.
I told him one time, I said, you look like he ought to be stand on top of wedding cake.
He was just like a kin doll.
He never broke that nice guy, but he had just that dry,
monotonistic mood that he had.
Well, it seems that the chainsaw has just penetrated
Sunshine's abdomen.
The winner of the match, Kevin.
Kevin.
Yeah, and, you know, I think he's a preacher, like in real life,
but he's just the most even person you've ever seen,
and you couldn't get him to crack or do anything.
But Bill Mercer ever once in a while,
and the freebirds tormented him,
but I just tried to get him with one liners,
and he'd get the twinkle in his eye.
What'd you think when he went full C, Everett, C, Everett Coupe?
And he had just the beard, no mustache.
Oh, that I was, I was, I was, he had the regular face when I was there,
and then he started doing different hair designs.
I don't know, it was a little, he was just experimenting,
maybe as he turned 60.
He wanted to see what different type of face warmer.
See, I always liked him on world class.
When I first started seeing that as a kid on.
ESPN, the reruns. I liked him even though he was different. And, you know, when I first started
reading various newsletters, a lot of the smart fans didn't because he didn't call the moves. And,
you know, again, it's a very different style than a Jim Ross, let's say. But I always liked it.
I always liked it. A sleep hold. A sleephole. I always liked the way he called it in the credibility,
but especially in the vignettes and world-class TV eventually had a lot of those. My favorite always
being him going to Jimmy Garvin's house. Jimmy Garvin? Jimmy Garvin? Jimmy Garvin?
open the door.
And then Precious and Jimmy Garvin are in there.
Like Chris Hanson.
It's Chris Hanson with Daylight or whatever.
And that was, and then you would see sunshine in the bikini or the robe or whatever.
And you'd almost see Bill Mercer's face turning red.
That was precious.
Answered the door in just a shirt.
Just a shirt, just one of Jimmy's shirts.
And then Jimmy Garvin said door and said, Bill Mercer, I can't believe you came to my house.
The funny thing was the shirt.
fit perfectly. And it was amazing.
But yeah, because he was the straight guy. He was a straight guy like Lance was, like,
you could, this, the announcer was not a gimmick. So you could trust him. He's the same one with
these crazy people. And it put the attention on the talent. But you had to play it straight.
You couldn't wink it to people. Or it would be like it is today. And it would just be,
but for all the funniest thing
I ever heard Bill Mercer say wasn't on purpose
because he he wasn't a funny guy on the air
but remember when John Nord was Nord the Barbarian
and he was from Minnesota
John Nord but the Barbarian
he's a Viking right kind of gimmick
not as gimmicked up as the WW Vikings were here lately
but he had the helmet with the horns on and he's got the goddamn Viking fucking chest thing or whatever.
And Viking, Bill Mercer is trying to say he's introduced from Norway, right?
And Bill Mercer, of course, the thing is trying to recall his home country and trying to remember where this fucking Viking is from.
And he said, well, there you have it, Nord the Barbarian from, from Norwayja.
And I said, God.
This is a guy who's done major fucking news,
and it can happen to anybody,
but it was so fucking funny from Norwegia,
nor the Barbarian.
I always wish he had gotten a chance to be the one to call
the Flair, Carri Von Erich title change,
instead of Mark Lawrence.
I guess Bill Mercer, he had something else that day,
so we got Mark Lawrence,
and not that that match was the greatest of their matches,
but I always felt like Bill Mercer should have been the one doing it.
Yeah, and,
And that was the thing.
There was something even then he was doing,
I can't remember what it was if I ever knew,
but it was some type of either the mainstream sports
or mainstream or something with the college maybe
that he was affiliated with or whatever.
When you think about all the tragedies that hit world class,
at least the ones they talked about on air,
he was always the one delivering the news.
I can almost visualize him sitting there.
You know, we've reached another sad milestone here.
Yeah.
You know, it was always Bill Mercer.
He had that credibility.
and it was a different show when he was...
You know, if you think about GWF,
you know, Pedicino and Beyond,
it was always like Doyle King or, you know,
just different people, especially after the Atlanta boys left.
And I love Doyle if he's listening, by the way.
No disrespect.
But he wasn't Bill Mercer.
You know, just, you know, think about what it would be like
if Bill Mercer every now and then showed up and, you know,
called some of the matches with some of the characters of the GWF.
There it is Bill Mercer, world-class announcer,
Texas Broadcasting Legend, Beyond Wrestling.
And, yeah, I guess go to YouTube,
check out some of the footage of World Class TV
if you've never seen it.
If you're one of the younger listeners
who's never seen world-class TV,
see what Bill Mercer was all about.
But Jim, let's move from there
to why don't we go to Smackdown,
get Smackdown out of the way,
and we'll talk about some other stuff.
Boy, you make this next section of our program
sounds so entertaining. Let's get this out of the way.
Ladies and gentlemen, let's go from the obituaries to
international travel. Endless international travel.
And you know what? We're going to change it up a little bit
to be honest with you in the way that I talk about some of these
segments on this program because
even if they're good, if I try to tell this story,
then I'm just recapping like a goddamn Shakespeare,
soliloquy.
The verbosity has
is off the charts now. There's some good stuff
going on. There was some nice, violent,
bloody, gutty
material
going on this week, but there's a lot of talking,
and they're still in Europe on Smackdown,
March 28th, and
I think today may be the day
as we're talking about this, they finally get to come back
up, but they were still there for Smackdown and Raw.
In London, this is
London. They need to
at Edward R. Murrow to do the fucking
could you AI
Edward R. Murrow doing the cold open
to their, fucking, that would
have been great.
But there at the O2 Arena, what
a crowd. I didn't hear whether they mentioned
the number on SmackDown. I'm pretty sure it was sold
out and it was 16,000
something on Raw. So
again, Jesus, H. Christ.
But this, and we may need to
talk about this later on in the program,
three weeks six shows of this to me has kind of it's great to have an atmosphere like that right
you want oh yeah but not six shows in a row where they won't stop singing and chanting to let
the people talk do people need to talk with the microphone and but i mean it's so easy
Cody was his entrance was first on Smackdown and they're singing and they're woeing and they
would let him talk and then finally he says of five words or whatever mentions John Cena's name
and boo and whoa I'm going to go face to face with John Cena on Monday and then Orton music
and they sang his song and they chanted it was three minutes from the time he started coming
out before he spoke.
And then they started chanting for both
of them. And then
Orden cut a great promo,
putting Cody over, he needed to
leave and prove himself, and then they did
more singing. Are you noticing
a pattern here, Brian?
Especially with SmackDown, and I'll let you actually
respond to that, but Smackdown's three
hours, and it ain't been as
exciting as Raw as been. And
if you condensed the singing,
you might get a two-hour show.
I'm so, go ahead.
No, yeah, I mean, I'm sick of Boni M.
Enough of this.
Well, you're sick of Bonin, who?
What, what did you?
I'm not even going to try to correct this.
Boney M.
Sick of Bonin him.
Daddy cool. It's what they've been singing.
Well, he don't now, don't try to suck up to me now.
I may be cool or I don't know whether I'm your daddy,
but who are you talking about Bonin?
This was the worst.
Yeah.
All right, Lou, go on back to the fucking show.
You just completely derailed me, MVP.
Let me think what I was trying to say.
The chanting, the singing.
The chanting, the singing.
Enough, that's enough.
I'm ready for some bored AEW fans.
I'm sick of jumping singing fans,
especially when no one could get through a promo.
And again, it's against the wrestler's law to cut people off when they're making noise like that.
And I understand that for those people in those cities, this is a special deal of them.
They paid a lot of money and they ought to be able to have as much fun as they want to have.
But God damn, it's almost like there's too much response for television.
And it's just, and again, I'm going to ask you by the end of this show, I'm going to ask the cult of Cornett out there to tell me
whether there was an overrun or whether or not they just went off the air on the main event thing
because I'll get there.
It's our new game, overrun or no overrun?
Well, yeah, because it's, they never overrun, smack dad, nevertheless.
Orton does a great job.
He told Cody's history and he put him over.
He's really comfortable speaking.
And he said, I respect you, I love you, I'm proud of you.
And then you're going to beat fucking Sina and I'm,
I'm going to beat Owens, and then I'm going to want to go for number 15, but I won't kick you
in the balls.
I'll look you in the eye and say, I'm coming for that belt.
And right then, Drew's music hits, and here we had more singing and chanting.
But I love Drew, again, a couple of Nepo babies, having a love fest.
Drew McIntyre has joined Gunther in my top five.
I don't even know if I've awarded the other three spots yet.
but Drew's,
Randy doesn't deserve a title shot.
You ought to get to the back of the line.
The fans start chanting for CM Punk.
WrestleMania should be Drew against Cody,
but it isn't because of priest.
And they started singing again.
And then by the time Drew got to the ring,
he said, I'm going to take the title from Cody
and told Randy that his back is hanging like a thread
and he's going to break it.
And as for you, Cody, and Cody just fucking, he just did the,
he booted him and fell on his back and upper cutted him.
And Orton went for the RKO and Drew slipped it and they played the music.
And we were 25 minutes into the show.
I'm not critiquing anybody's performances.
They're all doing great here.
You can't have a goddamn ambulance angle every week.
I always say that either
but it just takes so fucking long
because everybody's so over
they won't let them do anything.
Are you speaking to me?
I'm not speaking.
I don't know what to say.
I mean, they're stars,
the people are going crazy,
they're enjoying being there,
but yeah.
You know, I'm not,
I think I said it to you off air.
I'm starting to really hate Smackdown.
Again, it's the three-hour show now
and that's not forever.
But, you know,
when you think about
what was on Raw this week,
which we'll talk about later.
There's a few different things
that I want to talk about,
that I want to hear what you have to say.
With SmackDown,
there's a whole lot of show,
and it takes forever to fill up,
and I haven't enjoyed it in a while,
and I don't know if I'm the only one feeling
a little bit of burnout.
And again,
the WrestleMania buildup this year is ridiculous,
and because there's another three weeks,
because they did it at the end of April,
it kind of has extended things
in an unnatural way.
They're doing the same things
on both shows just to make sure everybody catches it
and it stretches it out double the time.
But yeah, it's a rough show to get through.
So yeah, it was an opening segment.
I like Drew McIntyre.
I agree with you.
I like him a whole lot more in the mic than in the ring,
not to say anything bad about his end ring,
but on the mic you have to watch and listen to what he's going to say.
But, you know, it was a fine segment, I guess.
Future Cody, Orton, stuff at some point down the road.
A fine, a fine segment.
Is that like three stars?
Is that what fine is?
I would say middle of the road.
Yeah, middle of the road.
It wasn't great.
It wasn't awful.
Well, the middle of the road would be two stars.
That'd be like very good.
If you're great in comic, good, very good, fine mint.
If I'm going with a five car, five car system,
if I'm going with a five star system,
three is middle of the road.
Well, who said you're going with a five star system?
I was using a five star system in my head
when you said how many stars would you give it, three stars?
Well, no, I just, I think we ought to go with the original
that was created by Leonard Malton.
and Norman Doolie.
Well, it was ripped off by me and Weasel Doolee.
Four stars, the movies get for you.
You can also have a dud.
There was a lot of fucking old monogram pictures
were duds in Leonard Malton's movie guide.
I've still got one on the shelf of somewhere.
I'll find that later.
Anyway.
But there's something about them
that when you start watching them,
you can't look away.
You have to see what that.
How did this get put on film?
Yeah.
Or was it was it film?
Middle of the road, I would say.
All right.
Well, they're inducting Stone Cole, Steve Austin, and Brett Hart from
WrestleMania 13 into the WWE Hall of Fame as a, what did they call it,
some kind of moment, monumental moment or whatever the fuck.
A moment to get Austin and Brett on the show somehow.
Well, they'll be there, apparently, they said, at the Hall of Fame deal to.
And I mean,
somebody was making fun.
Have they inducted a match before?
It seems like that's not a new thing to me.
I thought they had done that before.
They've not done that before,
but I believe the UFC with their Hall of Fame,
they've had matches that were big matches
in the history of UFC going.
It's not a crazy idea to do it,
but we'll see the first match that's like,
what the fuck?
When that goes in,
that'll be a moment.
Well, and that's the thing is,
I guess I heard it from there,
but the point is I'm not against the concept,
because that was maybe the greatest wrestling match.
I mean, you know, the the WWF of the 90s was mostly, you know,
the pretty ladders with Sean and, you know, all of the other falderall.
But I've always said Austin and Hart could have been the main event at Starcade
or in the mid-Atlantic territory or in the Omni or whatever the fuck as a wrestling match.
So that's a good place to start.
I'm not against the concept.
I'd rather see them induct a match
between those two guys like that
instead of, you know,
some random celebrity
that did a fucking guest host on Raw some night.
You know, when you're really thinking about a match
that would be the first match they put in there.
Obviously, there'd be a lot of picks,
Hogan, Andre, whatever it may be.
They may want to keep Hogan far away from this.
But when you think about matches
and the result,
or specifically what came out,
of it, is there a match that caused an industry to explode?
Not that it was the lone thing, more than Steve Austin coming out of that match and the
fan reaction and that kind of triggering everything.
You know, as much as Austin 316 and the King of the Ring, it was the Brett feud.
And to me, it was that match.
And coming out of that match, it was clear that Austin was the top guy in the company to me as a
kid, as a teenager.
Yeah.
Well, it was, to me, as, as, uh,
as a backstage minion.
And that's what caused Vince to be able to go public was Steve Austin.
And now, see, some people are going to say,
well, Sting and Flair are the first clash of champions,
which is same principle,
but different application in that that got Sting over as a main event guy.
It didn't boost the intent.
The business at that point was still doing well.
Overall, Crockett's.
And, of course, you know,
his buying up of territories and everything
and put him in the hole by that point, but there was not
a ton of difference in the grosses at the houses
and or the ratings after Sting and Flares
matched the clash of champions, but Sting was a main event
talent in the people's eyes because of that and was elevated
into that. Whereas Austin was the catalyst to
kickstart business that had been wounded over the previous couple years.
And while things were looking up from two years before, as you said, everything exploded
under Austin.
And that's, you know, that was the catalyst.
But they're going into Hall of Fame.
We'll see if the scaffold match gets into this division of the Hall of Fame.
Oh, come on now.
Well, it has to be the one with PN News where they captured the flags.
What if they said we want to put you in the Express in the Hall of Fame,
but you have to do it from a top of scaffold.
Yeah, I'll put my drone up there.
I'll have a drone broadcasting from up there.
You know what?
That was as if we'd have had a scaffold match today,
we could have our drones flop there and peck at each other.
Did anyone say to you when you were having those matches,
like this is the future?
Are they going to be doing this match forever going forward?
We're going to do this with you guys,
and then we're going to try to do it again in a few years,
and then we're never going to do this ever again.
No, none of those things.
ECW did it too, though.
Well, obviously Dusty knew that we had done it
because Dundee had us do it in Mid-South
and because Dundee had done it in Tennessee,
so there was some element of it stayed in a family.
And then Dusty just said,
oh, we'd do a scaffold match, baby.
and but at the time we were doing them they never they never either said we're going to have
other people do these or not do the they didn't talk about any others in the future besides
what we were doing at that and then we did some with fantastics in 88 and uh but but a lot of the boys
the universal response from everybody that wasn't involved in it was what the fuck are you
guys doing or rolling the eyes or we ain't going to be doing that shit or some combination of all
of that oh are we still on raw or smackdown back to europe what are we talking about smackdown
yes there there was a girls tag team match involved somewhere in there poor l a night defended
the u.s title against brown strong man and i just want to mention this because
fatu came out and just beat the shit out of everybody
It just gave L.A. Knight to Samoan drop and a couple of moonsaults to Mr. Strongman
and, you know, got over like a million dollars, but they only went three minutes to begin
with in this match. And I was thinking maybe L.A. Knight won the lottery, only having to go
three minutes with his giant, fucking chest of drawers. He's a giant shiffrobe is what he is.
He's very awkward to move around. Probably won't go into doorframe.
but now solo and fatu are having words Brian did you catch this because afterwards
the solo they fatu said some things and solo was telling her hey lower your tone
and basically the the last statement was I'm going to be the last man standing
and win the U.S. title with or without you so the better not make that another three way
Oh, God.
I did.
But, but.
But now, poor, poor Tongaloa.
They apparently, they just...
Where is he?
Well, he, did he break his toe in that match?
And that was a convenient time for us to never see him again.
There's people come back from fucking heart transplant.
That's the same match.
Didn't Jimmy Fatu?
Jimmy Fatu?
Did Jimmy Uso break his foot in that match or something?
Well, yes.
And somebody else.
fucking, I can't remember, nearly died from asphyxiation or some shit.
But the point is they got rid of Tonga Lois,
so Solo had Tommy Tonga.
And Tommy is the fall guy in all of this,
but Fatu is a baby face in terms of the people are awed by his athleticism and fury,
but he works better doing that.
as a heel. I don't think it's the time to particularly make him a baby face, but if the problem
that I'm thinking is even if they just, okay, we're going to have Fai 2 versus Solo,
is some similar styles that might diminish Jacob and or solo, because it might make Jacob's
shit look less special and it might make Solo look like he can't do all the shit Jacob can do. Does
that make sense to you? I don't know where exactly they're going.
Obviously, Jacob could be the leader if he beats Solo, but I don't know if that's...
I mean, it's weird the way they've minimized the bloodline story over the past half a year or so.
It was the main thing on Smackdown.
Everything revolved around the bloodline being there.
If they weren't there, Haman was.
Then there was the second version of the bloodline with Solo, the Tongas, and Fatu.
That was kind of doing something.
Now, like, the bloodline's a non-entity.
I mean, Roman Raines calls himself the...
OTC, there's kind of nothing happening and he's barely on the shows at all.
Now he is a little bit because they're weeks away from WrestleMania and on Smackdown,
the people want to cheer Fat 2, they're teasing something, but Solo means a whole lot less than
he used to.
Yeah, he's just kind of hanging out in a parking garage bitching at people.
Yeah, they had Roman beat him a few times and then all of a sudden no one cares about Solo.
Who knew that was going to happen?
So I don't know.
It's weird that the bloodline was the main thing.
And now it's not.
And I don't know.
I mean, I kind of want them to do something and just get it over with already.
Here's the thing.
You can't have a bunch of top guys.
You can only have a few top guys because if you have a bunch of top guys,
then you obviously you're watering shit down.
And sometimes when you're lucky enough to have an abundance, a plethora, if you will,
of top guys, you don't need to see all of them.
So I don't mind Roman being gone for a while,
and he comes back for the big thing.
That's probably better because the other newer, fresher,
sparkly or shinier things may outshine him
that people got a chance to miss him.
How can I miss you if you won't go away?
That whole fucking thing, right?
So that I don't have a problem.
But the actual, like you said,
the diminishment of the whole bloodline.
I don't think Roman should be necessarily in the bloodline anymore,
but I think the mud line, as we call it,
the outlaw mud line, the evil mud line,
they got mixed up in the transporter,
and they all came out evil with facial hair.
That could have been,
could be a bigger deal with Jacob Fatu still in it
and Solo doing something,
and Tommy there to,
be flunkies for a while longer
and it seems like that
I'm not arguing they put their eggs
in the fattu basket
but there's poor
Solo and Tommy over there.
See you can't turn on I would hope they wouldn't turn
him baby face yet either because I feel like there's money
to be made with him and Roman.
I don't even have money to be made as an expression you use anymore.
It's going to be on a show that was sold to a local
municipality for millions of dollars
and everyone's going to make money. No, no, no, we're
we're going to sell it to the Saudis.
Yeah, well,
Someone will be paying so much.
But Roman and Jacob Fatu,
it's been teased.
They've had moments,
but as a one-on-one feud,
that could be something.
But again, Roman's barely there.
How many matches is he work in a year?
He's on the Young Buck's schedule.
Well, and he,
well, that's actually apropos
because he's same size as both of them.
But that's, I see Jacob and Roman
for something like,
SummerSlam-ish or Survivor Series-ish or things like that.
I'm not saying that that's not a thing,
but I don't think they need to have Jacob and Solo nattering at each other right now
because people are going to choose sides.
Solo comes out looking, nah, whatever.
They should make Jacob the evil bloodline chief,
and Solo loses to him and falls in line behind them,
and they got Tomatanga, and they got Hicolayo and developmental.
And then all of a sudden you're building up something to confront the OTC.
Who the hell are you to call yourself the OTC?
TC. I'm the T.C.
Right now.
How about the NTC?
I'm the new tribal
chief. Yeah. I mean,
something, but otherwise. Or the
FTC.
The fucking tribal chief.
I hate to say it because I like LA night,
but otherwise you're just people running into
these LA night segments where
WW uses the fact that he's over
to hide the fact that they're doing like worthless
segments a lot of the time.
Yeah. And he happens to be there
when other people come out and beat other people.
You know the fans are going to react for him.
You know, he's going to get a big pop,
and then, you know, someone's going to beat him up.
That's clearly what it's come down to,
but we'll see where they go with the bloodline.
All right.
Well, and then, you know, I've skipped over.
Naomi with dramatic music was crying.
That what she had to do.
And then they had Naomi beat up Mia Yim and B-Fab.
and then Jade came down and helped
old BFab up
and was helping her out
and Mia Yom was there in the rain
and she just left her for dead
and then Charlotte comes out
as ready to kick the shit out of Mia.
What the fuck?
Played goddamn favorites, didn't you?
But that's drama.
As I heard Conan say one time in TNA,
but that's drama for another day.
That's the girls' drama.
They can cover that on the podcast that center on the girls' drama, can't they?
Conan.
Hi, Conan.
Conan.
Did you sign this card?
Conan!
Remember what the video?
I mean, the vocal was funny enough, but just him getting tackled by that guy.
Yeah.
Conan!
Conan!
What the hell?
What's going?
Hell.
The guy's trying to stretch him, and he's just there going, what the hell?
What is this guy trying to do?
fans for complete information on that one.
That was a few years ago.
But it's on the YouTube channel.
Maybe Brian might think of the title of it.
But yeah,
what a fucking Mark photographer
took fucking Callis down in Mexico.
Oh, man.
Jim Cornett on Dodd Callis in Mexico
or something like that.
That's what it would do.
Anyway, then at 10 o'clock at night
in the USA time slot,
they had Randy Orton versus Drew McIntyre.
And I watched this one because again,
this is what, this completes the look.
When you have, and besides the,
and notwithstanding, as the chairman would have once said,
notwithstanding the crowd singing,
delay and everything, when you've got a building,
it looks like that in a major international city
with 16,000, whatever,
people in it and a major league production and then you've got two top guys that are stars that
look great that are great workers that are smart and serious their shit looks good they this
these international audiences are a dream audience for if you're in the wrestling business
since a dawn of time before television you dream of a crowd where everything is so over you can
go out and just fucking promo each other
and do the bare minimums in the matches,
but make the shit look professional
and fucking get the people involved in it
and they're reacting.
And then do your finish or your angle
or whatever you're going to do
and get reactions like this.
That is the dream of everybody in the wrestling business.
It didn't used to be where you would go out
and do it for 25 minutes verbally
and then seven minutes physically.
It was kind of the other way
around but this is even better.
But Orton
and fucking Drew
and they don't get hurt.
They're in front of
WrestleMania. They're too important.
They do some professional shit.
And then Owens comes
down the aisleway and distracts
Orton and Drew
hits the Claymore, one, two, three.
And then
Orton and Owens have their
obligatory dust up
where Owens is going
to pile drive him on the desk and Orton
trips him and goes for the punt and
Owens bails over the rail
and he runs off.
So it's just, it's,
it's a 25 minute
talking segment with these stars
and these stars are going to go out and have a five
minute match to lead to a little fucking tease
where everybody takes two
bumps and off we go. It's that
kind of show. Yes, you have any
incisive thoughts on this
piece of business? On this match, no.
Nothing I could top your incisive thoughts.
Okay, well,
then we get to the meat of the matter.
Because they go to the back and, of course, there's Drew McIntyre, he's leaving the building,
he's celebrating with old Jackie Redmond of what he's done.
And as he goes out, I guess it goes through the door into the park garage, there's Damian Priest.
It just jumps him and they have a big fight.
And coincolinkidinkly, Drew McIntyre was wearing a leather jacket.
And Priest choked slammed him through the windshield of a car.
I'm not sure if it was real glass,
but nobody was crying a river.
And then it's, boom, he's done that,
and he's laying there and he's selling,
and the officials are there.
And so we, you know, we're still in that direction for mania.
But then the deal is,
as he's laying there selling McIntyre,
by he is what I mean.
Punk walks in with his security guards
that just looks in snickers at him.
and then fucking walks off smiling.
You know, it's become commonplace,
these aggravated assaults
and attempted homicides in the back.
So it's just, it's a snickering thing.
But that was a nice little touch.
And then we got to the main event,
which was the contract signing.
And I'm going to say this now
so we can get not bogged down later
before breaking this down.
But this is what I'm trying.
to figure out.
Did the USA Network do an overrun?
My DVR froze when they were still in the middle of this.
Now, no, because it was in London, it was on, well, what the fuck was it on from London in
this country?
Was it on Netflix or was it on in this country?
It was on, in this country, it was on USA Network at 8 o'clock, like it always is,
and I think it may have streamed on Netflix somewhere, but I'm not even sure.
Well, but that's the thing is.
people saw it before it would have aired here, but I didn't think it'd be on Netflix,
so I was wondering if those people would be in another country because Raw is on netflip.
I don't understand anymore, Brian.
It's become too complicated.
But the point is, my DVR cuts off for some reason, and I can't change it, at 10.59 p.m.
on Smackdown nights for the show.
Now, normally they've done everything they're going to do, and maybe you don't miss the last few kicks,
from the heel or whatever.
But in this case, it froze up when Seth was still pitching his fit.
And when I went and finally got to YouTube and watched the entire thing,
they went another three or four minutes.
So for anybody who watched it as it happened,
did USA do an overrun or did even they?
The Almighty WWE and Lee Fitting, our production God,
did they run over time because people wouldn't quit singing
and get cut off the air in this country on USA?
That's my question.
Because I don't know at this point, which is the case.
Have they ever done an overrun on SmackDown on USA
since it's been on it?
Not that I remember, but I don't know for certain.
Anyway, and they put the little bug for the credits,
executive producers, Paul and Lee,
They put that on while fucking punk was down on bended knee or whatever,
maybe even before that at the end of the thing.
But nevertheless, the contract signing was between Roman Rain,
C.M. Punk and Seth Rollins.
And the intrigue has been how's Haman going to play into this?
And, you know, they've been costing each other thing, as Punk said,
neither one of you have ever beat me except with the other one's help.
They've got this three-way mutual animosity society.
going on. So now we're going to have the contract signing for
WrestleMania. And Aldous is in the ring and he
introduces Roman and Paul.
And they go to the break on the entrance. I'm thinking,
okay, they won't, they won't take a break for the rest of the show. That's
great. And when they come back,
the fans are singing Roma and Roman Rains
and chanting OTC.
And he says, acknowledge me. And they
chant again and then they sing again.
And then Paul is classic.
He takes his handkerchief out.
He wipes off the chair for Roman to sit,
wipes off the armrest,
and Roman sits down in the big chair
at the head of the table and Paul kneels beside him
with that beaming smile.
And they start singing again and then Paul sings.
And I'm starting to look at the goddamn clock.
here because they're, you know, they got a long way to go at a short time to get there, right?
Because it's like 10 minutes and less at this point now that's on the air.
So Roman was there to be acknowledged and to sign the contract and he signs and then Seth's
music plays and they start singing again.
And the whole arena is the whoa, whoa, or whichever tune he's got.
and then Cess promo
he was supposed to start out with
you know you and I Roman we landed on the roof of this place
in a helicopter 12 years ago and go through their history
and I'm thinking my God
they won't quit fucking singing and he's trying to recite
you know their entire lives
and we were born poor children in a fucking log cabin
and the crowd started singing again
and Roman was looking, and then the crowd started chanting
see him punk while Roman looked bored.
And then Roman has to respond to Seth.
We died a long time ago.
I made this place.
And, you know, I made it what it is today.
And they argued for a little while.
And Seth was like, you let the biggest snake into the garden.
And he was mad that Roman didn't let him finish punk off.
And now he's going to have to clean up Roman.
man's mess again and he signs it and then like Mussolini with four minutes lefty the big pop and they sang his song and the
see him punk chance and a thing Brian before I go into the rest of this did you notice that besides for the fact that
they were enjoying singing and chanting that the people weren't particularly enthralled by the content of
what Seth and Roman were going through,
it was dragging just a bit
until punk came out.
Do you agree?
To an extent,
I thought Seth did a good job.
I didn't like Roman here at all.
I thought it was the most unnatural,
and I know he's not necessarily Mr. Natural on the mic
in terms of,
unlike punk and even Rollins when he gets fired up,
it comes across like a guy playing a role,
but I thought that was,
I just didn't believe him at all here.
And I thought it was,
I thought he was the one kind of slacking out of the three of them.
It was, it was a little, it, it took a while.
And then punk comes out and
I've come here to chew bubble gum and sign a contract.
And they chance see him punk.
And punk is trying to fucking read it.
And I'm looking at the clock, I'm like,
there's like two minutes fucking left on the air.
but the deal is he is looking for something he's supposed to be looking for something and
Paul comes over and tells punk I know what you're looking for and it's in there
and he kneels down with punk and they have a moment where you are closing the show at
WrestleMania yeah you get to live your dream you're a WrestleMania main eventer and
Paul kissed him on the head punk ought to see if Larry's vet can maybe give him some spray
for that.
But that was a fucking meaningful
thing.
And right there,
Roman again says, that's right.
We're checking all the boxes. One man's
dream is another man's favor.
Check.
And Seth loses it.
He doesn't deserve it.
It's sacred to me. And that's where my
DVR froze. And when I went
to look at the YouTube clip, they went
another, like I said, three or four minutes.
So,
the best part was either in an overrun or not on the air on USA.
So check it out on YouTube if that happened to you.
But that's where...
I think it was on USA.
I think it may have just been your DVR.
Well, but did they do an overrun?
Because they had to have done an overrun.
My DVR cut off at 1059, they won another four fucking minutes.
That's the point I'm making.
Somebody needs to clarify this for me.
but nevertheless punk got into it and he was teary-eyed and he was overcome with emotion but at the same time he stood up he wanted he said i want to thank london
chicago and louisville kentucky and brian did you know that there was a study done that there are more cm punk fans per capita in louisville kentucky than there are in any any other town in the united states did you realize that
They did that study.
Down to Courier Journal.
There's one guy who lives down in Shively.
He's a Mormon.
He's got like 18 kids.
Skewed the average or elsewise it would have been Peoria.
But he thanked London and Chicago and Louisville.
And he said, it may be corny.
But I want to thank you all for getting me, putting me in this position, etc.
And then Roman said, well, you ought to be thanking me.
So punk gets down on his knee in front of Roman.
and he sarcastically thanks him.
And he lays it on thick with, oh, thank you, my tribal chief,
for allowing me to share your ring in this whole spiel.
And he says, and I will see you at WrestleMania.
And he stands up and he says, and by the way, that's not the favor I'm owed.
Oh, and then Roman look, what the fuck?
And you see Paul kind of, huh?
and then they play the music
and then they're done with the thing.
This was the,
I wish they'd have put this on at the top of the
fucking 10 o'clock hour,
so they could have,
they could have milked this for 20 more minutes
and it wouldn't have got old, I don't think,
but some of the other shit got old in about five.
What'd you think?
I thought,
you said everything really picked up when punk was there,
but I thought Rollins was great here.
This is the Seth Rollins I like.
Yeah, he did fire up.
He showed a lot of oomph.
He just had to.
to go over all of those details while the people wanted to sing and chant.
He delivered the irrational hatred of punk perfectly.
Because it's consuming him and it just eats him.
I mean, he's really good in this.
I really like it because a lot of it's probably real.
He's really good.
Yeah, he's really good when he's irrational.
I think punk was great here.
And in terms of the favor, what do you think the favor is?
Is the favor having Heyman walk him to the ring?
Is the favor?
It couldn't be, you will cost,
throw me in the match and help me.
I mean, what do you think it is?
Well, I mean, it's going to be more than just walk me to the ring.
He's not giving him away at his wedding, right?
I don't have you would ceremonially walk me to the ring or, you know, what, don't we?
Well, I'm just telling you.
You know, and then kiss me like he kissed me the other night when you gave me the news,
kissed me on my forehead and spank me and called me sunny boy.
obviously it can't be yeah
fuck the guy or whatever
I don't know where they're going with it
one would think
that it would be some type of manipulation
that punk would want
that a business manager
or advisor could give or do
or sign in some way
but I don't know where they're going with it
now that's the good part about it
and that's why it got the big ooh
just as something as simple as that
you know, punk and Drew had to people
screaming and yelling when they were fighting over a fucking plastic bracelet
and now just who, what is the favor and
who's going to do what for who has become a thing.
Because it's something everybody can understand.
That's why it's getting over.
Well, that was WWE Smackdown continuing this European jaunt
and we shall return with jet lag right after this.
All right.
what that means, Jim, it's time to move on.
I was already ready without the organ.
I want to ask you about a couple things.
I know we still have questions.
We still have maybe some guests to program,
and we have raw, of course,
but a few topics before we get there.
Have you been following the Mickey James?
I don't even know if you would call it a controversy,
but she made some comments on, what is it, LFG?
Is that what it is? Is it LFG?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I always think lifetime goals, but that doesn't even work.
But legends and future greats of America, Lego, or Lego My Leg.
The last time I heard about Mickey James being controversial or being in the middle of controversy
was when they were switching places with her and Michelle McCool on next season of that program
to apparently justify
Mikkel McCool.
McHale McCool's status as a trainer and legend.
Well, apparently on this past weekend,
Mickey James was speaking to Zena Sterling,
who is a mentee of Bubba Ray Dudley.
And she had just had a match with...
Is mentee? No, minty is not a word.
It would be protege, protege and mentor.
Well, apparently...
Or maybe she has minty fresh breath, but go ahead.
Well, apparently she's been training under Bubba Ray Dudley and had a match.
Oh, that kind of thing.
Under it, is she always underneath or every once in while she on top?
Again, here we go again, but she had a match with Tamara May Steel.
Real quick, Zena Sterling and Tamara May Steel, do they pass the name test?
Well, it sounds like both of them are pretty sharp.
I don't know about
who was Tamara May
Mary Sterling who
Golden
May Steele
Tamara May Steele or she may
lie
or she
might
she might very well
fuck around I don't know
I don't
I don't know I'd have to see the entire
package so to speak
I'm only hearing these names
verbally, but it sounds a little over the top
for people who ain't in a business yet.
Well, apparently we have a quote here.
There may be some audio, but let me read the quotes.
It says the audio cuts off the quote.
Here's what Mickey James said to Zena Sterling,
questioning her in-ring attire,
I lived during the Diva era,
and we fought very, very hard to not have to wrestle in lingerie anymore.
Since I'm a female, I could speak on this.
It's very frustrating when women go out there and wrestle,
and all I see is their ass.
And I can't look past it.
It's all I see.
I can't look away.
It's very distracting.
So you want to be taken serious as a wrestler,
but you're wrestling in pretty much jazzed up lingerie,
and that's my opinion.
And that's coming from someone who's had
to wrestle on TV a lot.
I actually don't have any issue
with what she just said there as far as
you are proof of that.
Because how many times have we been talking about a match?
But did you see so-and-so's ass cheeks hanging out?
Yeah.
I mean, I see, you couldn't look past that.
I don't disagree with what Mickey James is saying.
And that isn't to say...
Not very inflammatory.
That isn't to say that every now and then
you can't have someone whose gimmick is, you know, here's my ass, I guess.
Well, yes, every once in a while, you've got to have ass as a gimmick.
But it seems like it's become a thing where you have to just have a thong and a wedgey
and all sorts of under-ass support to lift the ass up higher.
It's all focus on the ass.
They hide the tits, but it's just all ass.
And there are matches.
Mickey's right.
There are matches you watch.
You want to pay attention.
how talented the person is or isn't.
And it's just ass. It's just nonstop ass.
Just right there in your face. Just the ass.
Yeah.
Not to say that...
So why...
Not to say that Moor's girls didn't have asses, but they hid them.
They wore fucking bathing suits like it was the 50s.
I'm not saying you have to do that, but...
Some of them, it was, I think, demanded by the public officials that they cover up some
of those buttocks, but there were...
But I get your comment.
But when you go out there, when you go out there with a wedgy and you have things under your ass, like, I don't even know what you would call them.
They're just fucking threads under their ass to lift their ass.
If you're putting the focus on your ass, you can't be mad when people want to pay attention to that ass.
And back that ass.
There's a lot of ass.
I mean, it's just a lot of ass.
A lot of ass.
If you're into ass, you should be watching wrestling.
Can we put an ass?
Wait a minute.
Every time we say ass,
But let me ask you this.
And let me ask you this.
What's inflammatory and controversial about that?
That's kind of what we're just saying is, yeah, everybody's got their ass hanging out.
I have an article here.
This is from Essie Scoops and the quote here.
James's comments have sparked a discussion among fans about ring attire and the progress female talent have made,
especially in WWE over the past decade.
Some argued that James is right to criticize what they perceive as an over-sexualized attire.
Others believe that it is ultimately Sterling's choice to wear, W-H-E-R-E, to wear what she feels as best.
What?
To wear?
Where?
To wear what she feels is best, and that James has also worn similar attires.
Well, and hold on now, to be fair, that's kind of what she said, too.
I came through that era where we had to put up with that.
So it wasn't like she was saying, hey, I think I'll go out in this fucking teddy
from dressing for pleasure in Montclair, New Jersey or something.
Velvet Sky tweeted out, I feel attacked.
Laugh.
Laugh out loud.
Wait.
Nothing wrong with sex appeal and wrestling.
Diva era or not.
I personally find nothing wrong with her gear.
Just my opinion.
But what do I know?
A emoji of someone crying with laughter.
Let those pigeons loose, Zena.
And another emoji.
And also, let's bring up another thing.
This is a fucking reality TV show.
They've got producers and
it's built for,
drama. So did the producer say, hey, Mickey, cut a promo on the girl's lingerie outfit. Let's
get something to whatever. I mean, I'm not saying that she's lying through her teeth, but maybe she
might not have given two shits either way. And they just, well, let's, let's run with that. There's
something there also. But I don't again see anything to make any, besides the people who were
currently or formerly wearing lingerie, nobody else should be particularly,
pissed off about it.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know why
apparently a lot of people got upset with me, a lot of people,
a lot of fans, a lot of crazy fan.
How dare you tell you what to wear, don't you?
What do you know?
Let's not call those fans people, whatever we do.
But, you know, is there anything to be said about,
you know, if a woman had a great ass
in the eyes of, you know, me?
Or, you know, in the eyes of whoever,
in the eyes of society, if everyone agrees.
In the eyes of the Lord.
If everyone says, wow, that's a great ass,
does she have to expose it if she was a wrestler?
Is there anything that she could do?
Who's the last person with a great ass who didn't have it?
Like, out.
Just all the way out.
Like, it's, I mean, it's true.
I mean, Mickey James is not saying anything wrong,
but it's also true that she wore revealing outfits.
But you seem to be taking it as her saying,
we did that in my era.
That was the battle we had so that you didn't have to do that.
Right.
And there's some truth to that.
And as well, there's also some truth.
to just with everybody with their ass hanging out,
then that's all that.
I can understand why the ladies,
especially the ones at the top,
want to be taken more seriously as athletes.
They understand that the glamour
and the sex appeal is part of the overall package.
But if everybody's thing is to just,
I'll get noticed because I got a good ass
and I'll wear lingerie and show it,
it's the same thing as when there was one guy doing a pile driver,
oh my gosh, now when there's,
20 or when there was one guy doing something else and then there's 20 it's it's just now it's
too much from everyone so I think that may have been part of her point also do you think maybe
they should go the other way and embrace this like a best asked championship you know what if they
just have everybody you know you always hear about topless dancers what about bottomless
wrestlers see in some cases they can wear anything it looks like they're almost bottomless
some of these girls well that's what I'm saying they can wear anything that's the point they can wear anything
they wear an alpaca sweater down to the waist,
but they got to be completely naked
from between the waist and the ankles,
and then they can wear shoes
so they don't break their toes.
And then let's see how all those fucking figure-eightes look and everything.
Well, that is the update on that.
We will stay on top of this story,
and we'll see if Mickey James is anything to say
once the time on the show ends.
So you're volunteering to stay on top of Mickey James?
I'm volunteering.
She's married to Nick Aldous.
He's a general manager.
I'm volunteering to stay on top of the store.
I'll stay on top of him.
Okay, this took a turn I did not expect,
and I guess those will be the whitest teeth
that Jim comes across today.
It's been on every show that joke lately, Jim.
Let's get to another thing here.
Let's preview the upcoming AEW Dynasty.
Oh, boy, howdy.
That is another thing, isn't it?
Which is taking place this weekend
as we are recording April 6, 2025, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Well, how many matches?
13, 14?
What's on tap for this big event?
Right now, there are six matches listed on Wikipedia,
but if I go to AEW's page, they only have five.
And there's another TV to come, so who knows what'll happen?
How is their own website behind Wikipedia?
Well, Wikipedia may not be official.
It could be people guessing.
Let's see what we can figure out here.
for the AEWTNT Championship
with no time limit
and no outside interference
Daniel Garcia
the champion versus Adam Cole
oh boy so it can go all night
and nobody can interfere
that means we got to look at just these two
and for a long time
do you predict the title change or what do you think
happen. Oh, good Lord. I don't. I mean, they seem to be in love with Garcia, even though we
haven't been subjected to him as much lately as we were there for a while. Poor Adam Cole,
I don't know what else to say. I feel so bad for him. He's a nice young man.
Could they have this before they open the doors and just say, we couldn't hold them, folks?
Here's a package for two minutes. Well, Jim, another match announced. This is on Wikipedia, but not
on their page, title versus mask
for the Ring of Honor World Championship,
the champion Chris Jericho
versus the mask, Bandito.
Oh, boy. Thank you, Maskman.
Yes.
Maybe Bandito will steal away into the night,
and we won't have to worry about that.
I mean, Jericho's going to try to do
some Lucha, and Bandito's going to try to do
some American and
people ain't going to really
give too much of a shit except for the
most diehard of the fans.
And it's for the Ring of Honor title
which is
not exactly
as prestigious as it once was.
Imagine how much territory that takes in.
So there you go. Well, Jim, the next
match listed here.
For the AEW World Trio's
championship, the
Death Riders.
Claudia Ocastignoli,
PAC and Wheeler Uta
versus rated FTR
Coop, Cash, and Dax.
Cope Cash and Dax.
My God, it sounds like some kind of formula
for taking drugs.
Cope CACCash and Dax.
I mean,
what more is to be done with this?
Is Dax going to be
pissy at edge are they turning FTR heel we said that probably wouldn't be the worst thing that
ever happened but the death riders are death to people's attention so it is what it is hopefully
there'll be some type of turn on the on the baby face team but then who's going to be on edge's side
if FTR turned on him and if they turn on each other I don't
would suggest both Dax and cash maybe apply for Social Security while it's still in existence
because that'd be the end of both of them right now.
Did you see that footage going around of them on Collision?
It was FTR versus Kyle O'Reilly or Roger Strong.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
And they, one would think both those teams would have been amongst the most technically
proficient performers in the company and they couldn't get out of their own way.
I fucking died laughing.
It was, it's like a minute and a half clip.
And I mean, it was just, it was a, they couldn't get together for some reason.
And it just kept botching and botching and they couldn't stop themselves.
But I think once they got off, they just got rattled.
Cash had tried a leapfrog at one point.
And Roddy didn't go down far enough.
And Cash was jumping sideways because he didn't think he was going to get over him.
And they kind of crumbled.
And then they were trying to do an old,
a heart attack, heart foundation, bear hug clothesline,
but every time Dax would run to one side of the ropes,
cash would turn to the other side.
They were just crisscrossing around and couldn't figure it out.
It was bad.
Then they, you know, they kind of got back on the same page,
but it was brutal, yes, for a while.
I felt bad for them.
Well, we'll see what happens next.
For the AW World's Women's Championship
or World Women's Championship,
women's world championship,
timeless Tony Storm, the champion,
with Luther versus Megan Bain.
Well, I'm thinking that they like Megan Brain
because she's the new flavor of the moment
and she's a striking-looking physical specimen.
We still haven't figured out
because now, as somebody told me,
somebody sent an email,
Oh, remember I mentioned that to you, saying that, well, she just like broke in a year or two ago
and they saw her and signed her before the WW had seen her.
Then somebody else has said, no, this, she's been wrestling since maybe 2017 or whatever.
So I don't know what the story is.
Someone sent me something that says she was out of OVW.
Yes, and I saw that also.
But now that would be more recent OV.
and obviously you don't know what you're getting these days.
But I, again, if she's been around seven or eight years and she's not in the
WWE, something's wrong with her.
Maybe it's mental, I don't know.
But if she's only been around a couple of years and they just signed her up early somehow,
then there will be hope for her, but it ain't going to fucking happen here in any way,
because they take women who are really over in the world of wrestling and put them under.
So much less one from scratch.
Tony Storm has been the exception,
and she's apparently decided that the audience for the funny, ha-ha, ironic wrestling
is what AEW's got and it's worked for.
So apparently she's right.
I can't see him switching the belt.
Why do the match?
I mean, I guess they don't mind beating Megan Bain,
but I wouldn't beat her yet.
But we'll see what happens.
Well, would you spanker?
Jim, in a three-way match for the AEW International Championship,
the champion, Kenny Omega versus Rickettsay
versus Speedball Mike Bailey.
Is the Hong Kong-Fouye TV show theme under public domain yet
that we could play that for him?
I mean, this is going to be that there's,
self-indulgent, you know, uneven parallel bars routine,
where the three flippy fellas get to do all the flips and say what you want,
and I have about Kenny,
at least in this environment he's looked at as a main event guy.
And ricochet, they thought would be,
and he became an annoying nerd.
and so they kind of made him a, you know, Dick Heel,
but he's still somewhat athletic,
and he and Kenny could certainly do the,
play the parts of Olga Corbett and Nadia Cominici
without having some fucking tiny little grinning goof job guy
muddy this up just because he can do a bunch of fucking gymnastics routines.
He looks like he would have been a hell of a cheerleader in high school.
he might even have made the men's team.
But how is this fucking underneath goof in the middle of a top guy
and a guy they're trying to make a top guy?
Just because he can cartwheel?
Help be out with this.
I don't have an answer for you.
I am not Tony Kahn.
Do you think he's going to cartwheel his way into a championship?
No.
So you think they're going to beat him already?
I guess the three way you get around that, you can just beat Rickokosha.
Or Rickshaw beat Kenny.
Well, I don't believe
I don't think anybody of these two
is going to beat Kenny, but if it was one of them
it'd be ricochet or else
wise spitball might
fucking pull out a goddamn
ball peen hammer and wrap somebody over the head
but no, they've done that here
that doesn't work either.
All right, you with the hammers. I apologize
for any noise behind me. There are gardeners
somewhere in the vicinity. Oh, good God.
I'm worried about being blown off the face
of the map and then washed away into
a sea of goddamn floodwaters.
and you've got gardeners out there.
Are we interrupting?
Do you have a cookout scheduled later on?
They are not my gardeners.
They are some ones, as I said, in the vicinity somewhere,
but Jim, the main event, AEDW dynasty in Philadelphia,
the city of brotherly love.
For the AED World's Championship,
John Moxley, the champion,
versus swerve Strickland with Prince Nonna.
I mean,
don't you think that,
that it would be just out of nowhere and what the fuck if swerve is the one who just brings this
all to an end and then they just go away or whatever.
The catch 22.
Do you just wanted to go away so you do it and swerve wouldn't be outrageous with their fan base
or is it something where you've invested this much time and things aren't completely dead?
Let's hold off until Texas Stadium.
Yeah, yeah, there's still a pulse.
and if we hit it with the defibrillator every once in a while,
you know, we can get a heartbeat.
Let's hold off to the stadium show to put an end to this fucking lunatic
and the way he's tanked the company.
Swerve ain't going to win this because, like I said, it's not time.
They haven't built, I mean, there's past time for Moxley to lose,
but they haven't built this up where this would be the culmination of anything,
and they're supposed to be in a stadium in a couple of months.
So I don't know.
They'll probably just puncture him with something.
Swerve, it's his turn to get skewered.
Remember, he got the syringe and then Moxley got the nails.
So this time it'll be a red-hot poker.
They'll just impale him on the, somewhere, you know,
like on shoulder skin or something, it won't hurt too bad.
How many minutes into the match or how close to the finish you think Wheel or Yuta will do his running?
and give somebody
Danielson's knee
I'd say six minutes before the finish
takes place
right before they call for an extra blood transfusion
well again those are the matches
announced so far for AW Dynasty on the 6
this weekend as we are recording nothing with Christian Cage
and Nick Wayne so maybe there'll be something there
to settle their father's son
or whatever the hell it is feud
and yeah that's the show
Well, yeah, six matches announced last time they had 13.
I can't wait to see what they're hiding from us.
They spring on us at the last moment.
Jim, before we get the raw, one question here.
We'll have more questions later on, but this is from the Cult of Cornette Facebook group.
This was sent in by Dave Parsons.
In Jim's opinion, who would have the better podcast?
Bobby Heenan or Dusty Rhodes?
Oh, my God.
Bobby, without a doubt.
And that's not, that's not disparaging Dusty.
Dusty would be one of the great podcast guests.
But whereas Bobby, Bobby was not only witty and quick and funny,
but he could, as a manager, he could kind of drop back and be the host a little bit
and, you know, do some bits with some other people where they would get their chance
to shine.
and just different personalities.
Also, I think Bobby would have given more oomph to it as a program,
whereas Dusty would be, I'd just come out and do my thing, baby.
It wasn't it even if he just Dusty was good at creating things for other people or being dusty.
I can't see him as the host interviewing people rather than being the personality that comes on.
you know, Johnny Carson brought on fucking Bob Hope.
Bob Hope didn't really bring on Johnny Carson.
Does that make any sense?
Who do you think would have been a better podcast host in their prime?
Bobby Heenan or Jerry Lawler?
Oh, God.
Now, again, Lawler did a good job because he had that talk show.
And, well, talking, I won't say variety show,
but a talk sports-oriented show, wrestling,
variety, local events,
the Jerry Lawler show in Memphis for years.
And he could kind of draw back and play the host
and be the guy to do the banter with some of the other guys.
I think Bobby would still have been the best of the bunch.
Lawler would be second and Dusty again.
I see Dusty as the guest rather than the host.
All right.
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Okay, Jim, let's move on here.
Let's go back.
Once again, across the sea,
to the endless run through Europe,
WWE Monday Night Raw.
Well,
I mean,
go back and if the folks can,
depending on what manner that they're listening to us,
consuming our show here,
because what we just said for SmackDown,
it's old at this point.
And I mean, it worked with Sina and Cody.
I like the crowd was into it also.
But again, this is a two and a half hour show.
And by the time that the singing and the chanting
and the woeing and the cheering
it's a dream crowd, but God damn it makes it a schlog to listen to or watch some of the television programs.
But having said that, they tried a lot harder with Raw.
Raw had more oomph to it.
Raw had more shit going on.
Raw had more mayhem and chaos and build to these big matches than Smackdown did.
I think we can say that without fear of contradiction.
Yeah.
It's just between the commercial.
and this is on Netflix between the commercials and the travel logs and the spots and the long entrances
and the backstage people chatting with each other just to fill up time.
I got no on screen fast forward and I'm trying when they go to break I'll come back in three
minutes they're still in a commercial.
I come back in two minutes.
They're still in some kind of fucking spot.
It's like trying to drill for oil.
you don't know where to go when you're going to hit a gusher
and actually see something you want to see.
Are you having this problem?
Or you just leave it on and multitask, don't you?
It's become that, yeah.
It's not must watch.
There may be a must watch segment,
and they've started off the show with Sina.
It's interesting that's been starting the show.
Yeah.
But there's a lot of stuff that you kind of pay attention to,
but you don't have to stop doing what you're doing on the computer while it's on.
And then there's other stuff you really want to see,
and you want to see everyone's reactions,
and you want to see everything.
Again, the fans are singing to everything,
so everything just feels like it's at one level.
But, uh,
well, this one was,
I'll go ahead.
No, that's all I have to say.
Well, this one was even better because they,
they had more words to the song and they did more of it.
But again,
they were in London for Raw this March 31st.
They announced the number on the show,
I think 16,566.
If they were full last Friday,
there's 33,000 tickets
in two nights in the same city.
And the arena shot,
before they even played any music,
before anybody even came out,
they're panning this giant packed arena
and the fans are going,
let's go, Sina, Sina sucks.
Before anything's even happened.
And then they play,
Sina music and then John Sina sucks. John Sina sucks. And he comes the ring and they bring the music
down and the crowd makes various chance and noises. And he raises the microphone like he's about
to talk and Cody's music plays. And now we start this process all over again. They're singing his
song and the whoa. And he's hugging fans and kissing babies on the way down the aisle. He's dressed in
Al Capone's Halloween suit.
I don't,
and the music comes down so the whole arena
sings the final verse,
acapella.
Oh,
Acpella.
You didn't know I could sing Acapella, did you?
And then they sing, period.
Oh, come on now. You're just jealous.
And then they sing,
Cody, Cody Rhodes.
And more sweeping crane shots of the Pact
arena. We're 10 minutes in this fucking program. People have walked to the ring to be sung to.
But then finally, Cody started. And his whole thing was how you, how are you going to make fun of me?
How are you going to, you know, blister me here with the, are you my Lisp? And the fans chanted
Stardust and the neck tattoo and the fans chanted Cody, Cody Rhodes. Are you going to say I got
booed in the company that I created? And they kind of glossed over that.
Let's go Sina.
Sina sucks.
And Cody demands to know why.
Tell the people why.
Why?
Let me jump in here before you review the rest of it.
What did you think of this, that this is kind of the tact they've taken?
This is the road they've gone down.
The idea that Cody got his ass kicked by Sina,
who turned on him, betrayed him,
and beat him up, choked him out in front of the rock.
and they've done these promos
these last few weeks
and now it's tell them why they deserve to
like I don't know
I don't know that's the best
I'm more mad that he parked on my grass
and dug a hole in my yard
than what he said to my neighbors
what
there's a bigger
there's a bigger offense here
Cody should be more than whoever told him to wear that suit
well that's another thing entirely between the buttons that were rolling stones what the hell was that
but that's that's the thing is they they kicked him into balls and he humiliated him but then
they still had two months and they can't beat each other up every week and they're excellent promos
both of them can talk their ass off but i get what you're saying is that it's and plus they have to
just stand there and look at the other guy that, you know, they're kind of mad at or whatever
have the issue with for while that they're sung to for so long.
It does take some of the urgency away from these exchanges.
I want Cody to be mad that someone kicked his ass.
I want Cody to be mad that his hero in his own words, that his friend turned on him.
Not you have to tell the people what this is about.
Like, that's where, give me a fucking break.
You know, just be human.
That's why Sina, it was the ultimate heal promo
because he told the truth.
They got this whole thing,
and Cody stood there and heard it.
The other problem is, you know,
I'll let you go back to this at a second.
You just need someone in between them.
The fact that Sina keeps getting right in Cody's face,
right in his face.
And that's another thing,
even when there's an announcer that's
allegedly conducting the interview
and gets interrupted,
and there's a back and forth,
just visually and subliminally.
there's somebody there that's still in control.
They can't just begin fighting,
but they've been conditioned that there's nobody there
and they can just begin fighting.
And then it's a letdown when they don't just begin fighting.
But Sina goes back because he said, yeah, he cuts the promo.
I'm not going to cook you.
I'm going to bury you.
I don't bury talent.
I am talent.
I bury mediocrity.
And he answered all his critics.
And said,
the only is because basically I've been too good.
it's not that I buried anybody else or kept anybody else down.
Cody's a manipulator, was riding my coattails.
And I made this company so great that the WWE can hand the reins to my chauffeur
as Cody used to drive him around.
You stole all my secrets to be undeniable, but you're underwhelming.
You're too perfect, polished, rehearsed.
You got a catchy tune that trick these people into loving mediocrity.
but you're a generic mix of every star you've ever loved
all in a big confused blob.
Man, and I mean, he nailed it, honestly?
Yeah.
I mean, again, Cody's the baby face,
but he said everything that's kind of true about Cody here.
Well, and that's the thing, and I was waiting,
and he's not quite done,
and I was waiting to see what Cody was going to say
and how he was going to say it,
but Sina basically ate his lunch there,
and we can't do it word for word.
it took a while, but I'm the last real champion
and I'm taking that belt home for good
and exposing you as an errand boy that got lucky.
There's your why, pal.
And then Cody, I mean, it was pretty fucking close
because he fired back up
and he started eating fucking Sina's lunch.
And maybe I was chosen, but they chose me.
Who chose you?
The one guy in an office that's not here anymore
and we don't talk about him?
and if anybody's a company creation, it's you, not me, you, you've got more dick in your promo
than you do in your jorts.
It sounded stern, but I'm not sure if you break it down exactly what it's fucking meant.
I don't know.
But easy, you create a lot of disgusted fans, disenfranchised fans that made it easy for me to leave
and create something.
and finally he said between you and me between the two of us in the ring which one sold out to the rock and that got a big pop and then it you sold out and that's the first mention of the rock since the royal rumble in terms of these two guys doing stuff and that was the only one that they made also the announcers will drop it in every now and then but they won't i think they're placating mr mr johnson first name rock with him being mentioned but this is
being personal between these guys
because that's what they need for this match.
But Cody told him, you're still my hero,
but you're also a piece of shit.
And the fans chanted, piece of shit, piece of shit.
And then Sina fired back up at Cody
and said no matter what kind of garbage they gave me,
I made it great.
Me, that's why you had to leave because I make empires
for billionaires and all you've ever done
to steal money from their kids.
And that got the
because even if
the normal audience
for the WWE television tapings
in this country in
Butte, Montana
probably doesn't ooh
at any AEW
references because it's a
wider, more casual audience.
But with people in London, they knew what
fuck was happening there. And
they got it.
and then Cody also said, wait a minute, before you go, they've never chanted at me, you can't wrestle.
And that's what gets Sina mad, and he turns around to have the face off and then he's going to turn back.
But then he swings, but Cody ducks it, hits him with a crossroads.
One crossroads, Sina's laid out, unconscious, dead, potentially with no pulse.
And Cody stood over him and picked up the belt and walked.
out. And it was 20 minutes long. The content was great. That would have taken maybe about seven or
eight. But now they've got another heat angle coming up before mania. They have to because this
isn't the way you'd go in. So remember you asked me last week, what do you think they'll do?
And I didn't think, I didn't think they needed more than one physical angle between now and then.
or maybe a physical angle and a freshen up.
But since this was a physical angle light, one move,
but the baby face came out ahead.
I have a feeling.
Sina's going to do something to beat the fuck out of Cody
coming up here before too long.
Again, they got a few more weeks to have to do something else physical.
And it can't be Cody gets the only physical thing in Toll Mania,
unless that's the justification of a Sina walking out with the belt.
You know, I really enjoy the Sina stuff.
I do have a problem with him getting right in Cody's face over and over again,
but if you watch him while he's doing it, the intensity, it's incredible.
And the smile, there's a few points where Cody thought he had him,
and then Samoa just shifted to a smile.
It was perfect.
We've never seen this kind of intense heel promo from him on a big stage.
I've liked it.
A lot of fans haven't.
I've been surprised in this WrestleMania season,
the amount of people we've heard from who think we're being too kind to the John Sina promos.
And what do you think?
I mean, is it blur?
Is it talking too inside?
Is he making for a John Sina, he will run?
Is he doing enough?
Is it enough?
Is the direction of this and the reasoning for the feud with Cody enough?
What are your thoughts on the people who don't think this is really a great build?
it's probably because they don't like Sina.
It's a generational showdown between the previous era and the current era.
I know obviously why they would want to have it,
but at the same time,
they needed a heel, baby face dynamic of some kind for WrestleMania.
And so we were surprised that, you know,
they would switch Sina during his retirement year,
but now they've done it.
I don't think he needs to come out.
out and talk to people and be a, be a heel as he's being with the goddamn, finally,
I don't need you people anymore.
Now I'm, now I'm telling you what I really thought of you.
All this time, because fuck you and here's why.
And all the things he said, you took and took and he's crying, he's whining.
I'm liking the promos.
They don't need to cut each other's heads off with swords.
And, I mean, what other match right now would you want Cody to have against any heel?
They're not going to put Cody at WrestleMania against another big baby face.
They're not going to do that, I don't think, without a heavy personal issue.
So who would it be if not Cody and senior?
Well, that's the question.
Do you think they've made the issue big enough?
Have they made it make sense enough?
I mean, Cody came out here this week and said,
tell them what this is really all about,
which is, you know, over a month after everything originally happened.
Yeah, but I think it was going to draw anyway
because it's fucking Cody and Sina.
And I think now they're just letting them cut to promos.
It's not the hottest angle in the history of wrestling,
but having said that,
maybe the guys just want to come home.
They've been in overseas,
selling out arenas everywhere, grossing millions of dollars.
Now they're going to come back and have two nights in a fucking stadium.
I don't know that they need to do the Dibiasi and Murdoch angle on Mid-South
Wrestling to draw.
I think that's, honestly, I think that's what they're doing now,
is they're just, they're sitting back.
And like I said earlier, they're doing enough in front of this crowd or they're doing
enough in front of the fans to get them interested without anybody getting hurt
and anybody going crazy.
Have they successfully made this make sense?
If you're a wrestling fan and you have a friend who's a wrestling fan and they say,
hey, I've missed all the Sina Cody stuff.
Explain to me what their problem is.
Would you understand it?
Now possibly.
Beforehand, it was just that, you know, Sina sold out to the Rock and kicked Cody into balls,
but we don't really know why because what Rock offered Cody when he turned him down,
Seena already has.
he's a movie star and a millionaire and all that stuff.
But once we got past that
and the Rock quit showing up
every once in a while they mention him, but it doesn't
really get in the way. Now, you know,
I don't mind it too bad. There's the problem.
If the whole thing is built around the idea,
and this is what it should have been built around
probably from the beginning, that Sina resents Cody
for all the reasons he laid out here.
I don't know about long-term how much damage it will do
when you say a lot of real shit about your top baby face.
I don't know, but there's at least
something there. If between
now and WrestleMania, the Rock and Travis
Scott show up again on TV and do something,
does it ruin all the progress
of this? Yeah, probably.
It depends on, it depends
on what it takes away from it one way or another.
Whether it helps or hurts, it takes away
in terms of attention
being taken away from it. I don't
want to see Rock and or especially
Travis Scott
show up anymore because he gets
in the fucking way. When everything
makes sense that they're going to a
direction that everybody seems happy with.
I'm talking about the fans with what, and then he shows up,
and then there's fucking controversy.
And things start getting put together in different order and fashion.
Well, we shall see what happens.
Again, we still have a few more weeks.
You know, WrestleMania would kind of be right around now.
It would either be this past weekend or this weekend coming up traditionally.
And here we are.
We have weeks to go.
And, yeah, I really hope they get back to the normal scale.
schedule. I think the gap between the rumble, then the elimination chamber in
WrestleMania, it was way too long. We are living it. It is way too long as we are
living it right now. Well, actually, now, I haven't missed having to watch another four
hours of fucking wrestling to talk about it. It's been refreshing, but it is for their
purposes a little long in between. That's why they're kind of repeating and they're stretching.
Phil, Phil. Anyway, there was another deal before we get to the to the main event of the
evening or whatever we're coming up on.
Jimmy Uso and Gunther.
And this was another one where I was trying to,
I was trying to fast forward through commercials and the match was already in
progress when I found it and I didn't want to lose it again because I love
Gunther.
As I say, him, Drew McIntyre, two of my top five.
He's unique today.
I don't get tired of watching him and he can make something out of anything.
But obviously Gunther is going to defend the title against
Jimmy's brother Jay, so they had a match, and then Goethe hit, boom, a drop kick and a power bomb
cover, one, two, and pulled him up. And then started taunting Jimmy and hit him with a big boot,
hit him with a clothesline and cover one, one, two, and pulled him up. And I haven't seen this deal
done in a long time, and I haven't seen it done properly in even longer than the
that but they did it here jimmy was selling and trying to crawl pull himself up with the ropes and
gunther grabs him with a sleeper and puts him out and wins the match and puts on the belt with his music
playing and then he goes back to jimmy and puts the sleeper on him again and won't let go and then here
jay's music plays and jay hits the ring and they have a fucking fight and gunther takes off through the
crowd and then Jay goes to check on Jimmy and that was a great deal but when they go to the
break when they come back they're showing Jay helping Jimmy out and you know trying to
recover from what happened previously and here comes Gunther again and attacks them from behind
and security's trying to stop him and he power bombs one of them on the stairs and then he
post J and then gets zip tie, a zip tie from one of the security guys who,
one of the announcers dropped.
Well, yeah, they're known to carry the zip ties.
These fucking security guys didn't look like they were allowed to carry anything but
plastic sporks.
But he zip ties Jay to the rope and then beats the shit out of Jimmy while taunting Jay.
and hit Jimmy with the title belt and taunted some more,
and Jimmy came up bleeding.
And then when they got kicked into it,
Gunther just beat Jimmy bloody and choked him out right in front of Jay,
and Jay couldn't reach,
and Gunther was covered in Jimmy's blood.
And that part was a great heat angle.
But when Gunther got the zip ties out and then started the taunting,
and I don't know whether he was waiting for Jimmy
because Jimmy wasn't coming or what,
but it took too long in the middle
where Jay was zip tied and just trying to reach and pull
and Gunther was taunting.
And even then when he got a hold of Jimmy,
the officials, the referees, the agents were around ringside.
And one of them, the security guy,
already got power bombed,
but there was people wearing suits and ties around ringside.
if they weren't going to be trying in vain frantically to free Jay so that he could help Jimmy,
then they should have all fed in and let Gunther chop the fuck out up.
Because with them standing around the ring, that part,
when there was not a lot going on with the talent,
again in the arena and even subliminally to the people on,
in the television audience,
the focus of their attention goes from,
oh my God, look what he's doing to Jimmy in front of J.E.2.
Well, why don't those motherfuckers do something?
They're just standing there.
It took a little sharp off.
It's like the thunderstorms when they don't come through at peak heating.
They come through in the middle of the night when it's a cooler
and it's taken a little bit of the fuel away.
It takes a little bit of your fuel away in the presentation
that you're trying to create without people,
frantically trying and failing whether they're jumping up
and Gunther's kicking them off and then going back to Jimmy
or whether they can't find anything
they'll cut through that heavy plastic and they're sawing with something.
There has to be an attempt.
Do you see what I'm saying?
This was great, but the pace should have been picked up
and the middle tightened up.
And because this is the kind of angle that they used to do
to get fucking fans in the ring.
And they really could have created some jeopardy there.
But it was a little bit long and a little bit long.
little bit slow.
Tell me what you think.
I thought it was a lot of bit long, to be honest with you.
Well, and in English next time?
Yeah, maybe.
It took a while.
It was a good angle.
It was the best thing with Gunther in a little while.
What do you think you're going to do at WrestleMania?
Oh, Jay's winning that belt.
You think Jay Usso's winning the world title?
Oh, yeah.
Well, if not, then he'll be ready to have some sad singing and slow walking, as Troy
Graham would say, and let him be laid out and have words.
spoken over him.
The whole thing, they made Jay look like a clutz.
He slipped on a dive a couple weeks ago, so now they're doing the deal where all he's,
you know, he's lost his confidence.
Gunther's in his head or however they're phrasing it.
And Gunther's beating his brother bloody in front of him.
I mean, you know, if he's not winning the belt at WrestleMania, then Jay has been significantly
damaged as an attraction to him.
me. However, if he does win the belt at WrestleMania, at this point, I don't know that it hurts
Gunther. It might be time for Gunther to do something else, but he's kind of established at this point.
He always turns in a bravura performance, whereas Jay needs to win the big one because he's a lot
of gimmick and a lot of flash and a lot of music and a lot of yeat and not a lot of, let me see 30
minutes of this guy wrestling hard.
Does it hurt him if he doesn't win?
Oh, definitely.
I mean, that's the thing.
It doesn't hurt Gunther.
I don't think badly.
And at this point with him setting records,
big deal if he loses, but it
fucking kicks Jay into balls if he
loses, if he doesn't win that belt.
So that would be my
unless they've said, well, maybe,
Jay, you want to take a year off?
Okay, we'll do this angle just like this.
Then Gunther will beat you.
Thanks for coming.
That's the only, otherwise he's winning.
What do you think of fans who are upset, and I kind of think it's a non-issue, but
Jay Uso and Charlotte Flair win the Royal Rumble, some fans think that it's not about getting
your title match at WrestleMania, it's by getting the main event at WrestleMania,
and obviously the main event for night one or night two is going to be Cody versus
Sina, and then the three-way match with Roman Punk and Rollins.
Fans, there are some fans who think Jay Uso and Charlotte got jipped out of being in the main event.
well as much as i even like charlotte no sorry that wouldn't go to be the goddamn main event to begin
with um and the to me the the tradition has been the main event is at least for the last couple years
since they've had it the main event should be for whatever world title you know each night
and or last year they did the tag team thing but no you were never Charlotte doesn't
have an opponent right now, whether it be Rio Ripley, my other favorite or anybody else that
would deserve main eventing over three or four of these matches. And so I can understand being people,
I can understand being upset that it's not one world title the other night and the other
world title of next night because technically the world title match usually is the main event.
But no, when you look at business, which is going to be a bigger attraction?
CM Punk versus Seth Rollins versus Roman Reins or Gunther versus Jay Uso, there's not a contest there.
It's got to be the three way.
So that is the main event because it is the most anticipated match,
the match that will create the most interest, sell the most tickets,
or the most views or whatever for that particular night.
And you can't argue with that.
So then it just becomes, are you mad that, you know,
Jay Uso is not a strong enough challenger against Gunther
to be the world champion and fucking main event the show.
It's not my fault.
Would you want to close the show with a big Yeet celebration?
If you're going to do it, if you're going to do it
and you're going to have whatever,
I don't know what ticket sales are, 45,000 people
standing up doing the Yeat,
do you give them, do you end the show with that kind of celebration?
I don't think it needs to end the show to get,
get a massive, you know, great feeling and a feel good moment and all kinds of highlights and
footage out of that.
I don't think it has to be on last.
And it depends on what they're doing in, because have we, have we figured out nights yet?
Because whatever night that the Jay Uso and Gunther match will be on, make them feel good,
especially if the main event, what goes on after might not make them feel good.
they might not be happy about that.
So it just depends on what else is going on that particular show.
All right.
Well, speaking of particular shows, you mentioned the main event.
Oh, did you see the tag match before you get to the time?
Oh, yes, Braun and Pinta and Finn and Dom.
And again, you know, they didn't give this very much time.
They did the, you know, maybe two minutes to the break deal.
I let Braun Breakers come back where he gave Finn and Dom a double vertical
suplex and held them for a second.
And then
Braun and Penta, I will say,
meshed better as a team than what you might
have been a feared that they might.
And they even did the old Steiner
Bulldog off the top rope tag team move.
But again, basically
they went kind of an awkward
setup at the end of the thing, but
Braun was coming with a spear,
trying to spear Finn, and Finn moved
and he speared Penta instead,
and then Finn double stomped Pinta, one, two, three.
So like you said, I think last week or on one of the shows,
his brother's coming in, Penta,
and maybe that's an excuse to,
I need somebody I can depend on,
because this was just a,
I didn't want a team with Bronbreaker anyway, that type of thing.
And it keeps that alive.
Braun's not particularly a baby face,
but they like him probably as much as anybody here.
But was that what you were talking about?
There was that match.
There was also AJ Stiles and Logan Paul.
Did you see that?
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
I was a fan of Logan Paul's when I said,
wow, this guy's a natural and holy shit,
he's exceeding his time in the business and his experience level.
And boy, he can really talk and be a heel.
And then we found out he is just a fucking dick and person.
so he's not even really talented.
He's just playing himself.
He's very Trumpy.
But A.J. came out.
Does A.J. look lost to you like he's from another time,
and he's just landed after a fucking space warp.
And he used to be a big deal,
but everything's passed him by.
And now they've picked him to have the big high spot match
with douchebag Logan Paul because that way they can do a bunch of spots with each other
and Logan will be happy and be interested.
Did that what it say, was that what it seemed like to you when they exchanged their awkward
scripted verbiage and at one point Logan Paul just broke into a tirade on the audience and
ignored AJ, just walking past him and insulting each audience member individually.
And then they get in a fight and Logan Paul nuts him.
and gives him a big, flippy move that looked great,
and AJ was laid out at the end.
I think that they're there, they're there to give Logan Paul
a nice match where you can do high spots and be happy
and talk about it on social media.
Prove me wrong.
I don't know who's going to prove you're wrong.
AJ doesn't.
AJ hasn't done anything interesting in a long time.
And then he's been in and out a few times because of injuries.
He's older now, too.
So much to cut his hair.
whatever why does everybody have to have their hair cut i'm proud of him he's that age he still got his
hair but no that's what it's not anything against him as a talent it's just that it seems like
wow this is so long ago when everybody else is fresher and it's not his fault he hadn't done
anything interesting because they didn't tell him to do anything interesting but he still
it's it's like you know he's left over from the previous administration
Well, once again, possibly an
underwhelming WrestleMania buildup
to what will be on WrestleMania, but there was a main event.
There was a main event on Raw.
There certainly was Ria Ripley versus E.O. Sky for the women's title
with Bianca Bel Air as the referee.
And boy, how do you, I tell you, they started Bianca to the ring
from the time that we left AJ Styles being laid out
through Bianca's entrance and commercial breaks
and Ria's entrance at EO,
it was over 15 minutes by the time they started this match
from the previous deal.
And is it okay match?
And again, people are going to solve,
fuck Jim Cornett,
because he doesn't realize Eoskeye is the best women's wrestler
in the world today.
I don't care.
Because I'm not saying that she should be run out of town
and run out of the country
never allowed to work and have gainful employment again.
I'm saying, I'm not interested.
She's small.
She does the, besides the fact that she does the ridiculous karate kung fu movie choreographed stuff
that there's Ria's a foot taller and has got to be stooging for it, et cetera.
I'm sorry, I see Bianca as a main event women's champion level person.
and so I see Ria, just because EO can do a lot of the wrestling moves.
She's still small, she can't cut a promo, and I don't see her in the main event
or in the women's title deal with these other two.
And there was a couple of times where both of them, I thought,
were going to break their fucking necks because they kept trying to do,
one was a reverse Hurricane Rana on the floor,
and then the other one they were trying to do something off the top rope.
and on the floor when EO went and lost Ria's head,
and then Rio went and fell on EO.
And then on the other one,
she almost lost her off the top rope,
but Ria brought her back up and they gave her a big wing ding off of that.
And then seconds later, EO was okay,
but the point I'm making is they go through a bunch of two counts.
They had a fine fucking match.
This was better than most of the men's matches on AEW,
much less any of the women's,
but I just don't care
that Eoskei can do a bunch of fucking moves.
So finally,
with Bianca as the referee,
she gets in a way
Ria catches Bianca with a kick
that's meant for Eio
and then gives Eo the riptide,
but there's no referee for the count,
and the crowd counted like 12,
then Ria's yelling at Bianca,
get back in here.
and she gets a cover and gets a two count,
and then she's still mad at Bianca,
but Ria gets back on EO and won't break,
so Bianca pulls Ria off of Eio,
and then Ria slaps Bianca,
but EO comes off the top rope with a drop kick,
but Ria moves and Eio hits Bianca.
And then Bianca calls for a double disqualification,
and the crowd booze that,
and not necessarily in the right way.
but as of this point they're still fighting but we've established that
the crowd likes eo and wants to see her succeed because they pull for the underdog
the crowd likes ria and likes it when she does shit whether it's to bianca
but they don't like it when anybody does anything to eo including they don't like
Bianca when she tries doing anything to you.
Have I described this just about right?
The fans like Eio, yes.
Well, yeah, but they're picking other people,
said they like everybody except when certain people
do certain things to certain other people.
And then they're not happy about that.
But Ria and Bianca fought on the floor while Bianca was throwing punches at Ria,
but she was looking at the ring because Eio was about to dive in on them.
he dove on them.
Each one of them
fought the other one and then finally
Ria headbutted and riptied
bianca and riptided
Eo and was going to leave both
them laying, but then the fans chanted one more time
so Ria went back in and got
Bianca and picked her up on the second rope
and gave her a riptide off the second rope.
And apparently now, obviously we're going to have
a three way, another three way.
for
WrestleMania with all of these folks involved.
Well, we knew it.
That was the direction they've been going in.
I guess this is another one we asked.
What would it be if they didn't have these extra weeks of buildup for
WrestleMania?
It feels like nothing,
I mean,
so far,
nothing feels like it's peaking at the right moment.
I don't know.
Something feels really hard.
It's already got there and it's starting to droop.
You're like,
two more weeks already?
Yeah.
Well, that was wrong.
But everybody has a reason for what,
they're doing and they got a lot of stars on the card, but there's still similarities with one
thing to another that, again, if I was punk and Drew and Scheister, Seth, I wouldn't want
women or any other men to have a three-way on the show except for me.
You mean Roman, not Drew.
Or not Roman.
Or not Drew.
You know what I'm saying.
Yes.
See, it's so confusing.
Just prove my point.
but if I was yes if I was punk and
Santh and Roman
having a three way I wouldn't want to have
anybody else having a three way on the same fucking show
well that was
WWE Raw
once again in Europe they're coming home
I guess soon
but with that we shall return
momentarily with more drive-thru
all right we have returned
time travel to return shortly
but Jim let's play some guests to
program
All righty
If that's okay with you
That's perfectly fine with me there fella
And of course this is where I go through programs
In my collection
Some that I've had for a while
Some that I've just obtained
But I'm getting ready to file them away
So I have them here
We go through them Jim guesses
The location
The date
The bell time
Oh come on now
And everything else
But all right
Let's get going here
I got an interesting card
I was a little surprise looking at the main event here.
The opening contest,
Big Moose Cholak versus Fred Atkins.
Ooh.
For a title I will not name,
the champion Johnny Case
versus Johnny Gilbert.
A ladies tag team match.
Shirley Strimple
and Corinne Cordero,
versus Betty Clark
and Babe Bittner
I can honestly say I don't know
any of those four women
Shirley Strimple I have heard of
I've heard of Strimple
and not Shirley Temple by the way
Shirley Strimple and not George Temple
but Dick Steinborn
versus the Mighty Atlas
a tag match
Sweet Daddy Seeky
and Seaman Art Thomas
versus the fabulous kangaroos
who are listed as World Tag Team Champions.
And the main event
for the world's heavyweight championship
Pat O'Connor
versus the Crusher.
Oh!
Well,
boy howdy.
At first I was thinking
when I heard Fred Atkins,
immediately I was like, what the fuck is Moose Cholak doing in Toronto?
Because Moose Cholak, one thinks of the Midwest, Chicago, Indianapolis,
but Fred Atkins was a wrestler and later a manager early on in the Northeast
and in Toronto.
But Johnny Case and Johnny Gilbert bring it back to Chicago.
The girl's tag is immaterial to this.
Steinborn and the Mighty Atlas,
Mighty Atlas was Morris Shapiro, and he was a big deal in the Midwest and in Chicago.
Dick Steinborn, because of the time era that this would be, was,
oh, he'd probably been in a business six, seven, eight years at this point,
was the son of Milo Steinborn, the famous strongman from the 30s and 40s,
who was a promoter for Eddie Graham in Florida for years and years.
and Dick Steinbord was also a noted photographer.
Did you know that, Brian?
Wrestling photographer.
Well, he liked to take pictures, but he did some wrestling photographer.
No, I did know that.
I believe Scott Teal has those,
and it may be because Dick Steinborn ended up owing him money
like he owed a lot of people.
I believe he was also known as a bit of a locker room.
What's the word I'm looking for?
Light-fingered Louis.
He didn't mind touching other people's stuff
and just leaving the building with it.
He would touch their junk.
And Sweet Daddy Seeky and Seaman Art Thomas, before he became Sailor Art Thomas,
Seaman didn't have as many connotations back in that time period,
were a popular African-American tag team about that time in the Chicago area.
And the kangaroos, they were the World Tag Team Champions.
They wrestled all over.
The World Heavyweight title.
with Pat O'Connor and the Crusher, this is what, and you said it's odd to you,
that would almost take you away from Chicago because O'Connor was not noted.
It wasn't until they had a bunch of NWA title matches there until Rogers won the belt in Chicago.
Of course, that's where Rogers beat O'Connor in 1961.
So we're in Chicago and it's 1960.
Are you talking to me on mute?
I'm on mute and it's 2025.
The program
The International Amphitheater
Hallstead Street, Chicago
May 26, 1961.
No!
See, the O'Connor being champion thing, if you assume that.
Again, you could have assumed it was the Crusher as the champion somewhere else.
Well, but no.
But you would only have a short window and that was the window.
So it was right before, this was, they were giving O'Connor a win over Crusher in Chicago to set up the match with Rogers, is what you're saying to me.
I presume so.
Let me see, I just put it down, but no, the results are not marked in this one.
Not marked.
There's a big cut in the cover, though, but all right.
Jim, the next program here.
The first match, one fall, 15-minute time limit.
Oscar Salazar 210 out of Barcelona, Spain
versus Texas Tiger Romo,
204, El Paso, Texas.
Okay, immediately, you stop there,
I can name this song in two notes.
Now, I'm kidding, go ahead.
A special event, tag team match,
one fall to a finish.
Bob Bomber Hamby,
205 out of Charlotte
and Mickey Sharp
206 the blonde bombshell out of Houston
versus Alejandro Cruz
200 pounds
the human rocket
at a Mexico City
and Ray Crosby
209 out of Albuquerque
Ray Crosby
I didn't know Bing's brother got in a business
the first main event
two out of three falls or 60 minute time limit
Paul de Gaulle
213 out of Paris
France the fancy Frenchman
claimant of the international junior heavyweight
championship
versus Goree Guerrero
210 world light heavyweight
champion
so finally somebody I've heard of
The second main event
2 out of 3 falls
60 minute time limit
The Mummy
211 from somewhere
in South America
weirdest wrestler in the world
versus Juan Garcia
210 Albuquerque
New Mexico
popular wrestler
And finally
Triple main event
Winner take all
Loser Leaves Town rematch
two out of three falls or a 60 minute time limit
Andre Drap
200 pounds
Mr. France
Paris
unsatisfied on last week's decision
issued challenge
versus the mad Mongol
227 pounds
claw hold expert
seldom lost rematch
That's it huh
Boy, howdy.
First match, obviously, never heard of.
I've heard the name Bob Hamby in that second match.
Obviously, Gori Guerrero, the father of Chavo and Hector and Eddie and Mando,
grandfather of Chavo Jr.
And Paul de Gaul, the mummy in this interview.
incarnation. I'm not sure, but the most famous mummy was Benji Ramirez. And with Andre
Drapp, who again, I've heard the name, the Mongol could have been anybody. This has got to be
either West Texas or New Mexico, especially with some of the hometowns. Gori Guerrero
may very well have had a hand in promoting the fucking thing.
But, got, if this was, if this was Ramirez was the mummy, it would have been 1970, 71, 72 that time period.
If not, I still maintain that it's West Texas, El Paso, or New Mexico, and with Andre Drap in the main event, it seems like it would be older back in the 60s.
I don't know.
1970 Albuquerque, New Mexico.
The date?
February 26, 1963.
No!
The program 15 cents.
El Paso Wrestling Program.
And this is a special one celebrating our first birthday.
Tonight marks the first anniversary of international wrestling enterprises,
bringing to the people of El Paso the wonderful sport of wrestling.
Thank you fans for making it possible.
That may have even been before
Gorey had part of the promotion possibly,
but if that's 1963, which, like I said,
with Andre Drap, I thought it would,
is that Benji Ramirez the mummy,
or is it just a regular old outlaw mummy,
or can you tell from the picture?
I can't tell, but I'll double check
against other things afterwards.
Four beautiful girls have been signed to appear here in El Paso next week.
The promoter...
Boy! And maybe we can talk them into
wrestling. The promoter, Dr. Gardia, received a good number of letters of girl wrestlers asking for a
chance to meet the peppery Miss Olga Martinez. Anyway, Dr. Gardia has signed up the following
girl wrestlers. Anne Casey, Olga Martinez, Brenda Scott, Judy Grable. We still don't know if the
promoter is going to book them in a singles match or tag team match.
And there it is.
All right, let's get our next.
I saw Anne Casey wrestle live in 1975.
She had her leopard print, one piece bathing suit on, and the big black hair and a whole nine yards.
All right, this one here.
Interesting program.
The opening bout.
Irish Danny McShane versus Jackie
Nichols.
Hmm.
As it says here, a colored girls tag team match,
Lulu Mae Provo
and Babs Wingo
versus Marva Scott
and Kathleen Wimbley.
An Australian tag team match
Dr. Jerry Graham
and Professor Roy Shire
versus Wilbur Snyder
and Chief Bigheart.
Tarzan Killer Kowalski
versus Zaya Nandor
at a Budapest Hungary
How do you spell that first one?
C-Z-A-Y-A
That's right.
N-A-N-D-O-R
Was he any relation to or was it even
the same guy Bob Nandor?
I don't know, I'll see if he's...
But he was Hungarian here, though, the Sia Nandor, yes.
Carl Von Hess
versus Eduardo Carpontier
and finally
the dream match of the century
Antonino
Rocca
Uncrowned Champion
versus Ricky Star
undefeated sensation
Greenwich Village, New York
Okay
um
boy how do you
when you said Danny McShane and Jackie Nichols,
I was thinking is this out in the Olympic Auditorium,
Danny McShane was all over everywhere,
Jackie Nichols, I seem to associate with California wrestling.
The girls tag,
Marva Scott and Babs Wingo were sisters,
as has been talked about with the new Queen of the Ring movie,
along with Ethel Johnson,
and Lulu Mae Provo and Kathleen Wembley
were I think the first two black girls that came along afterwards.
And damn, since the last one of the sisters didn't debut until 1954,
we've got Jerry Graham and Roy Shire as partners against Wilbur Snyder and Chief Bigheart.
Snyder, of course, I don't think debuted until 55.
He played pro football for the Edmonton Eskimos.
Jerry Graham and Shire would have been a team.
or at least able to be a team in the late 50s,
Kowowski and Nandor,
Von Hess and Carpontier,
Raca and Star,
is what, are you trying to fool me with a Madison Square Garden card?
Or is this, again, a, is it a Toronto or a Philadelphia?
I don't think it's Toronto,
even though a lot of these guys were over at that,
in that market.
it's either
oh god damn it
it may not be Madison Square Garden but it's a major city
in the northeast and it's
I'm just going to pick a year
it's 19
before Jerry got Eddie maybe
1958
very close
the date June 10th
1957
official program
Griffith Stadium, Washington, D.C., Vince McMahon promoter.
Yeah, it didn't look like a garden card, but that was the time period,
and it's just, you know, different matchups than what was drawing the big money,
except for Raqa and Star. They had a couple of matches in the garden, did they not?
I don't know for sure. I'd have to go back and check, but it is interesting.
You know, if you go back to the beginning of the century,
there were matches in boxing and wrestling called the Match of the Century.
Here's another one, the dream match.
Hey, here was one we had here in Louisville.
Austin Idol versus Jerry Lawler, grudge match of the year.
Guess what the date was?
What was the date?
January 4th.
The first show of the fucking year.
Yeah.
But this is the dream match of the century, Rocca versus Star.
It's interesting thinking about that being, you know, the big dream match.
Well, Rocka and Star, similar in style.
if anybody could be similar to either one of those guys.
Well, and now the people get the idea
they were jumping off the top rope constantly.
They weren't really high flyers as much as the Raca had the acrobatics,
the leapfrogs and the drop kicks
and the kicking the guy in the face with his foot
and the shoulder ride, whereas Ricky Starr legitimately
had the ballet background.
And he also was apparently a fairly salty shooter,
and combined that to do the spitting and the pirouettes
and the leaping and the kicks.
And he ended up for a couple of years in this country.
He was one of the biggest box office attractions in the business
and then went and had a long run in Europe
and kind of disappeared from the United States in the 60s.
But Raka and Starr, because both of them were so unique
and had that mutual odd style, that was kind of the two guys.
guys that were in fans' mind, oh, we'd like to see this guy against that guy. So they did it.
You've got to send you a picture of this. It's a picture of Dr. Jerry Graham. It says inside
dope. Dr. Jerry Graham, popular Matt Star, gives Morris Siegel, the nation's top TV sports
commentator, some inside information on wrestling over the Capitol Arena TV network.
Do you know too much about the other Morris Siegel, the one who's not a wrestling promoter?
Well, I thought that's the one you were talking about.
until you just said that.
And I was like, what is Morris Segal doing up there on the Capitol Wrestling TV network?
Yeah, I got to look for the...
I thought it was Lance Russell on first site.
We'll see what we can find out.
That's the Capitol program.
Let's get another one here.
This one's not a program.
This is a postcard with an attached pass that you can cut off.
Ah.
The two other big bouts that are not listening.
here. Let me just say that. Will Weidner
versus Gorilla Ramos.
Billy Hanson versus jumping Jack
Claiborne. Okay.
The Unmasked Golden Terror
versus Irish Pat Fraley.
And finally, by public demand and
edict, the Cougar
versus Vincent Lopez.
resume their feud.
Okay.
Will Whiten?
Was he in the first match listed?
Will Widener or Weidner, Wiedner, W-E-I-D-N-E-R?
Yeah, I got no idea.
Gorilla Ramos, there was an Apache Bull Ramos,
but this is way before his time because of a name in the next match.
I don't know who Hanson was,
but Jack Claiborne was one of the first
African-American male stars along with
the Black Panther Jim Mitchell and Seeley Samara.
He was of that same generation.
So this, to me, and again, the unmasked golden terror,
who the fuck knows?
Pat Fraley, again, a name that I've heard from the 40s
and the Cougar, no idea, but Vincent Lopez,
was not only the top baby face, the top draw in Los Angeles and a lot of Southern California
in the 1940s, he had one version of the world title out there.
And I think he was probably the top guy right before the television era when Gorgeous George
came in and that took over Hollywood wrestling.
Would I be crazy to say that this is some kind of suburb?
of the Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles
in the Southern California area
sometime around the mid-1940s,
1946, let's say.
You know, I mean,
it was such a hard one to figure out.
You came so close.
That was actually excellent.
It's at the Olympic.
Okay.
The Olympic Auditorium, Wednesday...
It just didn't seem like a big enough card.
Wednesday, April 11th, 1945.
The day before FDR died.
Oh, wow, yeah.
And this pass here, which is, again, a postcard that has a preforated part that you could just rip off.
This card entitles you to a 50% discount on ringside and lower floor reserve seats.
Present this card at the box office Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday,
and exchange for your ringside and reserve seats.
No phone orders, please.
save and see a great wrestling show
void after 8 p.m. on day of show
and then it has here
reserve 50%
$1, federal tax 40 cents, state tax
10 cents total a dollar 50
or reserve 50%
federal tax 20 cents, state tax
5 cents 75 cents
but there it is the
Olympic Auditorium, April. And that was 1945. And I have, again, I mentioned Jim Mitchell's,
I have his date book. And I've talked about this before that John Cosper found when they,
he found the guy that had bought Jim Mitchell's house. And it was about a year or two later. I'm trying
to think, I can't reach it, 46 or 47, but Jim Mitchell came in and had a main event at the Olympic
with Gorgeous George and it caused a riot.
And that was a famous match in Los Angeles history at that point in time.
And his records indicate that he got paid $140 for that main event against Gorgeous George.
Now, with those prices that you just quoted, if the Olympic Auditorium drew 5,000 people,
that was probably what a $5,000 or $6,000 house
because tickets were around a dollar apiece.
Gorgeous George would have made $500 because he always got 10% at least, right?
Been on what the after tax was.
But point being, when you figure for inflation,
because I was doing this for another project,
$1946, a dollar today, it's almost 20 times.
Somewhere around, I think, 17, 18, 18,
dollars or whatever so jim mitchell would have got yeah he got like a $2,500 payoff but gorgeous
George got almost 10 grand in today's money in those days for a main event at the
Olympic auditorium what are your thoughts on the idea of sending out a weekly postcard to your
regular customers or i guess not your regular i mean your regulars probably don't need a discount
to come in they'll be well see that's the thing it was world war two it wasn't over you
yet. A lot of the guys were in service. Look at this fucking card. The unmasked golden terror,
the cougar. There's two people on the card that even we have ever heard of. Well,
Vincent Lopez was a big star. Yes, Lopez and Claiborne. But that's the thing, is that
Southern California wrestling and a lot of wrestling, anything that didn't involve while Bill Longson
during World War II was down. For some, that's where he vaulted ahead of everybody and he was old
enough they didn't draft him and he was drawing mega money in Toronto and St. Louis and Houston
and all these different places but in a lot of other locations wrestling was down it wasn't
set in the world on fire in southern California and there was no wrestling in Madison
Square Garden so they were sending out passes trying to revitalize what was going on out there
And then by the time TV came in and Gorgeous George,
then the Olympic was the place to be and they didn't need to give discounts.
But these things come and go.
All right.
This next one, we'll see how in your wheelhouse it is.
The big thing is for you to guess the year, I guess.
The opening bout.
I'm off on a years today for whatever reason.
The opening bout, Les Thornton versus Nick Kininski.
Knesski, excuse me.
Sivy Afi, or as it says here, Siva Afi versus Jake Roberts.
Billy Jack Haynes versus Hercules Hernandez.
Adorable Adrian Adonis versus Tony Mr. USA Atlas.
Corporal Kirshner versus Paul Mr. Wonderful Orndorf.
the Iron Sheik
and Nikolai Volkov
versus Mike Rotundo
and Dan Spivey
a tag title match
one fall one hour time limit
Dynamite Kid and Davy Boy Smith
the champions
versus J.J. Funk
and Hafunk
the challengers
for another championship
which I won't name
Randy Macho Man Sass
The champion versus Pedro Morales.
Oh my God.
And finally the main event won fall one hour time limit.
King Kong Bundy and Big John Studd
versus the super machine and the giant machine.
And a giant was Andre was super?
Was that Mulligan or was that Eaddy?
I think it was Bill Eadie.
Boy, how do you wait, one, two, three.
three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine matches.
Or if you want to do it this way, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, nine, ten,
eleven, eleven, fifteen, fifteen, seventeen, sixteen, sixteen, eighteen, nineteen, nineteen, fifteen, nineteen, twenty, twenty, twenty, twenty,
twenty, twenty, twenty, twenty, twenty.
Twenty-four stars on the card.
Did you notice, every time you do an old show, Brian, from the 40s or 50s, or
maybe sixties, there's like three matches, four matches, five matches, and today there's
like nine matches, ten matches, eleven matches.
The formula for paying the boys.
never changed. You're just cutting
instead of six slices of the pie,
you've got 24.
That's what happened to money in wrestling
as they had to make the cards bigger.
They just didn't increase
the fucking percentage
of the payoff. But nevertheless,
this is obviously the
WWF. Nick
Kinnisky was the son of Gene Kineski
and brother of Kelly Kineski. He
broke in
around the time we were in Dallas.
We worked with him some and
world class
uh
jacob everybody knows who all these people are
uh can't even really give me a trivia except
Jimmy jack and a haws funk were Jesse Barr
and Dory Funk Jr because
Vince didn't like the name Dory I guess and when Terry
left to care for his sick horse the first time they brought
Jimmy Jack in as the other brother
can imagine that conversation listen I hate junior
okay we don't do you use Jr no I hate Dory too
but Haas is okay
the Savage match was the Intercontinental title
because that's when Pedro was champion, right?
No, it's on Savage was champion.
Was Savage champion then? All right.
But nevertheless, the point is, this is the WWF,
it doesn't seem like it's the garden.
I don't remember the machines made of inning the garden,
but anything could have happened,
but the year would have to be
for all these people to be there
and in those positions,
wouldn't it have to be 1986 or late 85?
The day...
Oh, go ahead.
I'm saying, I'm just...
Philadelphia.
Man.
What?
The day, Monday, August 25th,
1986,
Madison Square Garden.
New York, New York.
You talked yourself out of it.
I talked myself out of it.
Because I, that,
all right.
Well, nevertheless.
A lot of matches, though.
I mean, that's the thing.
You don't see,
I mean,
nowadays it's TV tapings along promos,
obviously,
a different animal altogether.
But look at how many matches are on this show.
And it was televised.
And they were probably all still five minutes long.
All right.
Final program here today.
This is going to be a tough one.
Uh-oh.
Event number one.
K.O. Ken Yates
versus Danny Little Bear.
The second event
Evil Eye Valentine
versus Chief Crazy Horse.
Good Lord.
They will then be an intermission.
The third event,
Tito Carion
versus Pancho Rosario.
Gypsy,
uh,
Rosario also worked at one point in time as either Gypsy Rosario, and I think he may have even
tried to be Gypsy Joe.
And that's Bruno Sam Nartino, isn't it?
That's right.
He was Bruno San Martino.
Then there's Baby Blimp versus Dick Steinborn.
Okay, baby blimp is George Harris, George Two-Ton Harris, George Bunk Harris.
he wrestled as the baby blimp
because he was childhood friends
with Roy Welch and Buddy Fuller
and well with Buddy Fuller
and Roy Welch was already an adult
but he was friends with the Fuller and Welch family
and he broke in as a wrestler
and he looked like a littler version
of Martin the Blimp Levy
he was like 600 pounds
so he worked as the baby blimp
and then became a manager
George Two Ton Harris
but all the boys called him bunk
because of his stories he used to tell.
And he ended up being one of the maintenance guys
along with Clondack Bill for Crockett promotions.
And briefly, before he finally retired,
I think 1990, he worked for TBS.
So he went all the way from outlaws with the fucking Fuller family
in the 40s to working for Turner Broadcasting.
And who do you wrestle, baby Blimp?
Baby Blimp versus Dick Steinborn.
Steinborn. He's back again.
Okay.
Ray Gunkel versus Wildman Weeba.
Okay, Ray Gunkel obviously was the husband of Ann Gunkel,
and Ray Gunkel was an NCAA champion wrestler that became the top baby face in Georgia
and owned part of the promotion.
And when he had the heart attack and died,
and they tried to split the company,
and that's what led to the Georgia Wrestling War.
Jim Weba
Scandor Ackbar
Oh Jimmy Weba
Wildman Weba
Wildman Weba
The Butcher
versus Greg Peterson
There's not a picture here
So I can't help you with
If it's Paul Vashon or someone else
Another intermission
And then finally
Tag team match
Main event of the evening
Two different
sets of titles
I don't know if it's a giveaway
or not.
Ah, what the fuck?
What the fuck?
European champions
versus southern champions.
Both titles are at stake.
The Infernos,
managed by J.C. Dykes,
the European champions,
versus
Enrique and Alberto, the Torres
brothers. Torres brothers.
The southern champions.
Okay.
Well, you said this would be hard.
Actually, this one's easier than that other fucking fiasco.
He gave me Danny Little Bear.
He was just on the card at that point, but Danny Little Bear was big in the central states.
This is not there.
Kansas City area for a long time.
And he did a lot of work in Tennessee in the 70s.
He also went to, he lived in Western Kentucky for a while and went to jail for some type of improprieties.
I think carrying things around he wasn't supposed to have.
Tito Carion was an old-timer, as was Pancho Rosario,
the baby Blimp and Steinborn we talked about,
Ray Gunkel and Weba we talked about.
Greg Peterson was a baby face in a variety of the southern territories,
especially over in Mobile, Alabama and southern Alabama.
The butcher, I think was Paul Vashon rather than Abdullah the butcher,
because we are in Georgia.
and it is the late 1960s, I believe, possibly early 70s.
I haven't narrowed that down yet.
The infernos were Frankie Kane, and I believe his partner at that time would have been Rocky Smith.
J.C. Dykes was their longtime manager.
He was from down around Chattanooga, Tennessee and managed all over the south for a long time.
The Infernoes, Frankie Kane had the loaded boot, and they also threw four.
fire and the Torres brothers which two of the three were these this was
Alberto and Enrique?
That is correct.
And there was there were three Torres brothers but again they were two of the biggest
baby faces in the Georgia territory in the late 60s and early 70s as Hispanic talent but
they just they caught on.
And Enrique had been a major star on the West Coast, you know, over 10 years earlier.
Well, you expect that because California has a Hispanic population,
but in those days in Atlanta, that was like, wow.
So it is Atlanta, and I bet you it's the city auditorium,
and the only thing I'm looking for is the year,
and I'm going to just pluck something out of the fucking air and say 1968.
Oh, man.
Again, you give me that.
Atlanta's wrestling program, the Ringsider,
on the cover, Atlanta's favorite son, Ray Gunkel.
25 cents
Friday
July 8th
1966
Ah
well there you go
God damn I'm good on the places
I'm fucking up on the dates this time
Programmed subject to change
We reserve the right to change the order of events
The promoter is not responsible
If contestant failed to appear in the ring
Due to conditions beyond our control
Such as injuries, illness, accidents, etc.
When possible substitute matches
when possible there's no comma when possible substitute matches will be made the law forbids throwing objects into the ring do you like to have someone throw things at you we're sure you don't that's why we ask you not to throw anything into the ring or at the wrestlers throwing objects at a wrestler also is a violation of the city ordinance and anyone caught is subject to arrest fine and imprisonment no that used to be in a ton of programs
because people, we talked about this the other day on one of the shows,
people would bean the heels with anything they could get a hold of or get their hands on.
That's why they quit selling glass bottles in arenas,
but anything that was in a woman's purse or a guy's pocket or what they could pick up or wad up,
it was, you know, there's an issue.
On the back cover, we also have an ad.
There's lots of ads for local motel.
There's at the Atlanta Sports Arena, there's dancing and all.
the varsity advertising back then
with the rest. I don't see that.
Refrigeration mechanic
by Atlantic fixture and sales company.
The varsity is the
largest fast food
place in the state of Georgia.
Maybe it's a giant thing, a huge parking lot,
drive-in, burgers, dogs, that type of thing.
We have a nice photo here of Fred Blassie.
It says, Fred Blassie says,
by all means, come and see me
at all me.
I screwed it up.
By all means, come see me at Al means for, you can't say this.
Fred Blassie says, by all means, come see me at Al means Ford City.
1665 Scott Boulevard, Decatur, Georgia.
Get the Blassie deal on a new 66 Ford car or truck or good used car.
No other dealer can beat my deal.
They wouldn't dare.
And he was working there.
He was a salesman there.
Blassie had had kidney issues and had a kidney removed and retired from wrestling for what,
was it a year, year and a half, maybe that period of time who was living in Georgia and
taking advantage of his celebrity.
Because he had been a huge draw there as a baby face and a heel.
Well, that was this week's edition of Guest the Program.
and you know what?
We promised questions.
Questions next week.
We had a lot to go over
and there's a lot going on behind the scenes
and we in fact have phone calls
to quickly jump on soon.
Yes, and also I have fun guessing the program
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Well, if they want to sue,
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Why don't we start with that?
But Jim, why don't we get a few songs
and get it out of here, of course?
If you have a song you'd like to submit
an original song, a parody song,
nothing with AI.
Corny Drive-Thru at gmail.com,
about the show, something we talk about on the show,
not just, hey, I wrote a song about wrestling,
let me send it in.
Let's just go now.
Yeah, well, you're awful surly today.
Take you, take your, tell your story walking.
Just take your business on away from here.
This one was sent to Corny Drive-Thru at gmail.com by Stefan of Auburn, Maine.
Here we go.
This one is about Mercedes Monet, apparently.
Let's go to this.
A third word.
With all the lead, they love to bring a joshi girl.
Kenny's thing
Waves goodbye give this next gala try that morning
Went to work utilized like Reho undersized that's a morning
Bells will ring it don't mean a thing modern wrestling why Brian can tell ya
Well wait Mercedes Mone
Jimmy Sidney trailer
Oh, Bacabella
Superstall thinks she's cool
An imposter that bull that's a moaning
Take a chance now, Tony
With this clown bring monie
Plenty house
Like a bar in a church
Her promo's lurching, it's boring.
Jim scoffing to off and ship her up to Boston.
That's a morning.
All right, you know, I mean, he's trying hard.
He means well.
I'm now curious what his other songs are.
Hold on.
Here's another one he sent.
See what this is.
Hold on.
Let me see.
That wasn't me now.
That was me apparently in the past.
He has other songs here.
He attached to the end of the songs.
So why don't we, we'll just make it this one song for today,
because otherwise it's going to go for another three minutes.
Jim, any thoughts on that, Samone?
Yeah, yeah, yes.
It was, it was very different and humble and lovable.
All right.
Thank you, Stefan of Auburny, Maine.
Once again, Courtney Drive-Thru at gmail.com.
Leor, please, wherever you are, check in.
but this one was sent
to Corny Drawthrough at gmail.combe from
Donnie D.Giacomo
Let's go to this.
Oh, come on.
Di Giacomo.
This has to be A.I.
This isn't real.
What do you think?
Is this A.
I don't have any idea.
Maybe they're just, they're angry in the garage.
All right.
It seems to be repeating itself.
Yeah.
Once again, please send in your submissions to corny drive-thru at gmail.com.
Thank you, Donnie, for that submission.
Let's go to this one.
This one is about Tony Kahn and his tweeting.
This is person of a name.
I am the one that contacted you on Twitter about song submissions.
I hope you enjoy this.
The song is called...
I have no name.
The song is called Stop and Put Down Your Phone.
please credit as
Your Beliefs
and Jay Coogs
All right
Let's see
How this goes
So your Belinda and Jay Coogs
He's doing cum jokes
On Twitter
With random fans
Bebe
Funny enough
This song was actually sent in
by AW's producers and agents
Now's the time for me to go out there
And whip out my cock
What clip that's from?
Where did it do?
that come from? Well, thank you, uh, your beliefs and, uh, Jake Hoogs for sending that.
If that was not AI, then she's got a set of pipes on her there. I think that was a real
female singer. Well, a real female? Listen to this show. I think that was a real girl. I think
that was a real girl. Well, boy, howdy. She, she can sing. She can belt it out there.
It's so stupid, but I always think of the song multi. I don't know if you know that song by the barbarians,
about the drummer who lost his hand and they wrote a song about it.
And the rumor is that it's the band playing on the track.
It was when they were still doing stuff like studio work.
And they played on the track.
And at one point, at the very end, after talking about losing his hand and everything,
he's like, now I just need a girl, a real girl.
But real girl gets me every time.
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