Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 386

Episode Date: April 4, 2025

This week on the Drive Thru, Jim reviews WWE Raw and Smackdown! Plus Jim previews AEW Dynasty, plays Guess The Program, and talks about Bill Mercer, Mickie James's comments about ring attire, and much... more! Also, the story of another incident on Jim's lawn, and songs! Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: CornyDriveThru@gmail.com  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Merch! https://arcadianvanguard.com/ Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello again, friends! And you are our friends. And welcome back to another edition of Jim Cornett's drive-thru on another sunny, funny day, here for another sunny-fony drive-thru. I'm your host, The Great Brian Last. It's going to be a ring of ding-dong dandy today. Here he is, the leader of the cult of Cornette.
Starting point is 00:00:40 We have reviews, and of course he'll be answering your questions. Mr. Jim Cornett. oh for heaven so after that in a godda divida intro and the morning i got going on and the things that you you know brian people say that i never admit when i'm wrong and i never change my opinion and there's no way to i'm rock solid on everything there's no way to get me to deviate or variate or perpetrate in any way anything different. And I say every year, spring is my favorite time of the year.
Starting point is 00:01:18 I love to spring. I love to sing about the springa. And the birds start chirping and they lay in the eggs and the little babies come up out of the nest and the leaves sprout and the dogwood blooms and everything's so beautiful. Well, I was wrong. spring sucks because after we spent the winter time being encased in a goddamn block of ice for like a month straight
Starting point is 00:01:51 with all of that horse shit then it hasn't stopped rain and not just raining but storming storming lightning thunder tornado warnings wind blowing deluge of rain over and over and over again. And just Sunday, we had the severe weather go through. A tornado passed. I'm going to say eight to ten miles as the tornado flies south of the castle here. And here wasn't even as bad as the storm we had last August
Starting point is 00:02:28 and toppled that giant tree over in the back. But there was a tornado down the road. And that was one of three or four, I believe they're still doing the surveys around here. One of them down in, and I believe it was Mead County, was 500 yards wild, 500 yards wide
Starting point is 00:02:45 and stayed on the ground for like 30 miles or whatever the fuck. They were way out of the metropolitan area or other shit would have taken place, but nevertheless. And we just got finished with that, and they're saying that tomorrow night, another goddamn line is going to come through,
Starting point is 00:03:09 that has twice the wind energy and looks a lot worse on the radar. And if it comes through late at night, it's going to be bad enough. But if it speeds up and comes through when it's real warm, because this morning it was 35 fucking degrees, but tomorrow it's going to be close to 80. If it comes through when it's real warm, I believe the weatherman's exact words were, we're going to be in big trouble.
Starting point is 00:03:35 They're saying that shit on television. And once that that happens sometime overnight tomorrow night, then for Thursday and Friday and Saturday and Sunday, it's going to rain. The storm front is going to sit on the top of us, and they're forecasting 10 to 15 inches of rain in some areas of this particular beleaguered part of the fucking country, which I believe has never happened before in four days.
Starting point is 00:04:16 So I get up and I watch the weather this morning, Brian, and I get that good news to really lead me to be chirpy first thing out of bed. And then, of course, I've, you know, got the pleasure of been able to watch Raw this morning from last night so that we can talk about that. and I look out to front window at 8.30 in the morning or whatever, when I, after I've taken my morning Russo and brushed my two-fers and done, but I come down,
Starting point is 00:04:46 I look out to front window, what do you think is in my front yard? Pulled off the road is a giant pickup truck and a big van sitting on the grass in my yard right outside of the other side of the fence. A pickup truck and a van? A truck and a van. It's like it's a goddamn, What is the fucking, is there a press camped out?
Starting point is 00:05:09 Have I done something overnight I wasn't aware of? And then I look down there and I see some guy in one of those fluorescent outfits digging a hole in my fucking yard. And so I go down there and I, you know, it's, as I mentioned, it was 30 something degrees. It's brisk. Had I go down there and I said, excuse me, what the fuck are you doing? who say you can park in my yard here and why are you digging this hole? And he stared at me. And I said, hello?
Starting point is 00:05:46 And I mean, he's standing knee deep in a fucking hole about 20 feet off the edge of the fucking road in my yard. And I'm obviously asking, why are you doing this? But he can't speak English is what he manages to communicate with. He's pulling out his phone and he's calling somebody. and he's given me the like the one minute fucking gimmick. And I said, you can't speak English, no. And it's not his fault he can't speak English,
Starting point is 00:06:17 but whoever sent him to somebody's property and park in their fucking yard and start digging holes without being able to tell said property owner what the fuck he was doing, that guy got a problem with. So I said, call this guy over here. I said, in the meantime, stop digging. And somebody get these trucks out of my yard, right?
Starting point is 00:06:38 It's already rained two inches yesterday or whatever the fuck. You're going to tear up my goddamn grass. Well, then two other guys in the fluorescent come around the corner of the bush from the, they're over on the neighbor's yard. And they come around it. I said, the trucks, I'm pointed the trucks, and they're going that way. I said, get the fucking, I'm Vamuz, right, trucks out of here, off my yard. And they get in the van and back up and start pulling out.
Starting point is 00:07:06 out and then I'm telling the guy in the hole, he's still digging. I said, no. Stop digging until somebody tells me what's going on around here. And he nods and then turns around starts digging. So I took his shovel. I pitched his fucking shovel. I said, no, stop of the dig. Wait, what do you mean you pitched his shovel?
Starting point is 00:07:26 You threw a shovel? I grabbed his shovel. I pitched his fucking shovel away from the hole so that he could not dig anymore until somebody told me what they're doing around here. Because I don't know what he's Even if I can't speak Spanish I could have told if he was telling me in a similar situation if I was in his front yard
Starting point is 00:07:51 digging a fucking hole and he was gesticulating in the manner that I was I could have understood stop digging You weren't afraid once you grab this shovel and then threw it that he was going to get up and try to fight you or anything? He's in a fucking hole! I've got the king of the hill have you ever played brian for heaven's sake but i don't believe he
Starting point is 00:08:13 wants to fucking get in a goddamn fight over whatever job it is that he's doing it i've yet to discover so then down the hill comes a truck and pulls in the garage and i's or not the driveway and i said is this the guy i'm pointing it yeah yes okay great he gets out i said why are all these vehicles parked in my grass and what are you doing digging holes here. And you know what he said? I said, you speak English, right? Yes. Okay, then I asked that question. You know what he said to me, Brian? This is a guaranteed mood settler. He said, first of all, sir, you need to calm down. Number one, that's not a good thing to say to me under any circumstances, but B, I was calm compared to obviously what was about to transpire of what would normally
Starting point is 00:09:08 be transpiring when you see somebody in front yard desecrating your property. And I said, I am calm. Who said that it was a good idea to park these cars on my grass? And what are you digging his hold for? Well, we're putting in a fiber optic. I said, what does that have to do with making my place a parking lot? And what do you mean? Oh, like, oh, fuck this.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I'm going to go down there and cut it soon as they, fucking put it in out here to you that. You can't do that. That's a federal offense, but I was thinking faster internet is what I was thinking. Oh, fuck you. I'm thinking faster way to fucking sing-sing. But anyway, back to this fucking guy. I said, again,
Starting point is 00:09:53 does anybody go tell me without asking or telling me what to fuck, you just started to start digging holes and parking in my fucking yard? And that's what we're putting in the fiber optic and we have a 28-foot easy
Starting point is 00:10:08 and I said, okay, again, your truck's farther in, the truck is farther in, because the fence is 40 feet back. Again, and he said, so with the easement, we can do whatever we want. That's the second. I said, well, I got a fucking hammer. And I can do whatever the fuck I want. And if you don't get that truck a dig whatever you're going to have to goddamn dig around here but if you don't get that truck out of here five minutes i'm taking fucking hammer to it and
Starting point is 00:10:43 then as i start to go he said go ahead and do that or some words to that effect i'm like motherfucker you know what we're right there and the little voice is going hit him get him hit him right in face right there because i'm still bigger than this guy is too and he and him standing in a fucking hole hit him but at the same time there are many witnesses and i can't go to jail i got to record today. You know what? Turn around. I went on the other side of the fucking fence, the fridge drain,
Starting point is 00:11:15 grabbed the fucking rock out of the, you know, the round gravel you're putting the French drain. I said, this is my right away around on this side of the fence, and I chook that fucking thing. I was aiming for glass, but unfortunately, it dinged off his fucking bumper. He said, I'm a hosta linguine, whatever the fuck he said, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:37 And I said, now I'm going to. now I'm on my right of way and here you are coming around here this way and talk about it, where at least I have the right of property apparently, according to what he said. I'm farther than 28 feet back. He wouldn't come around there and I wasn't going to go back over there. So I said, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, and fuck all of you. And move that fucking truck. And I come back up the drive because also did I mention it was 35 degrees and I'm out there
Starting point is 00:12:04 flip-flops. Come back up to drive and fucking stew for a minute and look out the window and the truck's gone and the guys were gone too. Everybody, they were, now there was some guy up in the neighbor's yard
Starting point is 00:12:20 to the right at the top of the hill in his front, digging some hole in his fucking place. But all of my people left after digging a couple of fucking holes. What the fuck? Well, then just as we were starting to
Starting point is 00:12:35 goddamn record, I look out and there's a goddamn machine in my neighbor's yard that they've got, it looks like a fucking giant chainsaw in the back of it and they're digging a fucking trench in his yard. But then
Starting point is 00:12:51 they went 10 feet and then I looked out again and they're gone again. The fucking thing 's sitting there but you can't find the people. There are no people, Brian. So I don't know what the fuck they're doing around here. I don't want the,
Starting point is 00:13:07 they can hop-scotch me on the fiber optic. I just got the goddamn blistering speed internet. And I don't want to, I've just fucking got the drainage fixed down there and put the nice fridge drains in and fucking grass is growing now. They're trying to come and dig all the shit up again. Have any of your neighbors said anything?
Starting point is 00:13:31 I don't know that they're around. because I definitely know that the fellow next door would have been down there snooping. He's not as volatile as I am. He's an elderly gentleman, whereas I'm still in the piss and vinegar stage of life. But he'd be asking a ton of fucking questions. So I don't know. This is all just sprung on me this morning while I'm trying to do my job here. Is there anything worse than the arrogant city worker?
Starting point is 00:14:01 the dead city worker would have been worse worse for you if I had a hammer in my hand and the voice had been loud the voices talked to me and if it had talked a little louder I'd have hit him in the head with a hammer
Starting point is 00:14:18 what do you think so? I don't even leave the property they come to me when is the last time I had a fucking issue with anybody in any public place or anywhere except right fucking here
Starting point is 00:14:30 where they won't leave me alone I think Stephen would have a good defense saying that he is known for wielding a racket, not a hammer. This sounds like it could be anybody. Yeah, it could have been a fucking, you know, miscellaneous hammer villain fellow from down the road. It's been committing all those hammer crimes. I was hoping they would send the cop and it would be the same guy from Mustang Hill. You're the guy yelling? Yeah, see, you could have heard me now from the new precinct over there. So you still have these giant holes? Can you see
Starting point is 00:15:00 them from your office? Well, it's right on the other side of the, there's four. There's four 40 feet in between my front fence and the road, which I did specifically to give all the electric people and the fucking water people and everything room. But once they've finished all of their work that we assumed that everybody was going to be doing, we didn't count on this fiber optic business. Who gives a shit? Put it on the goddamn, there's a pole down there. There's poles all over here. If you want to run something, there's already wires there. Just put the wires with the other wires.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Why are they digging everything? Why are they digging up the road, Brian? Have you ever seen that movie? Falling down? Oh, of course. I haven't seen it in years. That was a great movie, Michael Douglas. Yes, every time I've watched that with anybody, especially Stacey, they have likened me to the central character in many, many ways.
Starting point is 00:15:57 You said every time I've watched that with someone, how many times have you watched that? That's not really like a, hey, let's share a good night movie. You got a movie. No, if that movie happens to be on, it's on the TV regarding whatever we're doing. But I love it when he takes that there. Yeah, fucking tell me, rude-ass motherfucker. I just want a fucking burger. You're a fan of vigilante justice.
Starting point is 00:16:23 The way he does it. The way he does it. He did it with a flare. Oh, Charles got a little too fucking cool for school with it. What does that mean? Michael Douglas was more like, I'm just, if you just leave me alone, I'm not even hunting you. You're bothering me. I'm just trying to, I'm going home.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Whereas Bronson was like, I'm going to get even with every motherfucker in sight. So is it, you know, I'm just trying to, I'm trying to stay home here. Just leave me the fuck alone. I'm home. I won't yell at anybody if you leave me the fuck alone on my own home and property. So you think they're going to come back? Sounds like they have incomplete work. Well, I don't know what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:17:07 They do something and then they leave and then they brought another piece of equipment and do 10 feet of work somewhere. And then they go away and there's flags down and then there's not. I don't know what's happening. And it's the city? It's not a utility or anything? Well, who is in charge of the fiber optics of the situation? I don't know in your area. I mean, over here years back in a lot of places, Fios by Verizon had the fiber optics everywhere.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Well, I mean, they did. I don't know if the executive that runs the company is the one who's out here digging the fucking trench. But who, whoever is doing this, they're using the county right of way of 28 feet or whatever the fuck. And you ever received any kind of notice? Nothing was like sent to you in the mail. Well, they can't. They have, but they've stuck flags in the yards of all up and down the road and the next road and the road over and they're doing all. But they're orange flags and yellow flags.
Starting point is 00:18:02 And I looked at my. and it said gas line. And I'm like, okay, the gas line may be buried here, but I don't have any fucking gas. So they're checking for something, but who knows what? And then they show up and start digging fucking holes. I guess we'll see how this go.
Starting point is 00:18:22 How close were you to having a hammer? Was there a hammer nearby? If I could hammer in the morning and then I could hammer in the evening all over his head, I had a hammer on the forehead. I had a hammer on the chin. and I had a hammer on his
Starting point is 00:18:39 noggin between his ear and his other ear all over his head. All right, well, you guys wanted songs to return to the show, there it is, if I had a hammer by Jim the Hammer Cornette. But this is happy talk. So this is the, yeah, this is called the bitch fest episode of the drive-thru here.
Starting point is 00:19:00 And hopefully we'll do a show here in a few days if we haven't either blown away or washed away. With what's in. I didn't even think about that. If they're giant holes there, I mean, they have to do something quickly if the weather's about to really turn.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Well, that's another thing. I'd say, oh, thank you for bringing that up because I said, as wet as it's been, you're parking on my yard and you're digging holes when it's about to rain a foot.
Starting point is 00:19:22 What are you fucking doing? So now they've, at least, so far, they've dug a 10, 12, 15 foot trench in my neighbor's yard unless they fill up by tomorrow is going to have a foot of rainwater in it.
Starting point is 00:19:36 over the next four days where it will be severe weather and unsuitable for anybody to be out there doing any fucking thing. So they're going to make a goddamn mud trough. You needed to see the visual of this, and just be in the moment, Brian, to understand why I wanted to throttle this motherfucker around his goosele pipe. I can understand. No one wants an outlaw mud trough.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Nobody wants an outlaw mud trough. That's for sure. And I'll tell you what. Well, let's, you know, this is your show, and we got all kinds of new and exciting things to talk about. But I've, again, before we get anywhere else, I've got to go to my email here, Brian, pardon me. I'm not as quick as you are on the switching around and everything, but we have an update on the mystery that has taken over our lives over the past couple weeks. Elijah from North Cross, Georgia, whose father was from Nigeria, swore that Jerry the King Lawler was part of the IWA television show
Starting point is 00:20:42 that was broadcast over there in the 80s. And we said, well, everybody else, Ernie Ladd Mill Moschorus, by Igor, everybody else you mentioned, but Lawler never worked for them. And then he, along with a couple other people, had sent the clip, cut and paste results of an IWA event at Roosevelt Stadium in Jersey City, New Jersey. And there was Jerry Lawler in the preliminary match.
Starting point is 00:21:10 And we said how, again, we debated how this was possible. Well, this is from Chris from Texas. Because he went to the newspaper archives, whichever ones he was studying also. And the report on that show on August 7, 1975, it tells about all the matches that we spoke about and everybody that was there and then it said, Daisy May, upset Maria DiLeon,
Starting point is 00:21:42 and Jerry Lawler, L-O-L-L-E-R, Jerry Lawler was an unpopular victory by a pin over Dan Sharp. And I have no explanation for why, was a Thursday night, Lawler was just again coming back into the Memphis territory. He'd been gone since January. He was there in Memphis that Monday. Remember, we found that show. Yeah. And,
Starting point is 00:22:13 and when they would have had to have flown him. It's not like he was going to drive to Jersey City, New Jersey. It's not like he had just come back to work for Jerry Jarrett, who still technically was part of the NWA with Goulis, who was not working with anybody that was going to run opposition to Vince Sr. or eventually Crockett in the Carolinas. So it's still, I'd love to know if anybody actually was there and saw him. And the thing is, a lot of people are saying, well, stars made appearances in different places, you know, shots here and there,
Starting point is 00:22:55 but this was before. No, this is different. No, nobody besides, and I'm not belittling Lawler, but this was in 1975, except for the Tennessee territory and to a lesser extent, never having been a main event guy in Florida and Georgia,
Starting point is 00:23:11 he'd never been anywhere. So this was so odd. And he would apparently, to the best of our ability, never worked for him again since we didn't know we worked for him this time. So that's the oddest thing
Starting point is 00:23:29 that I've ever seen. Just wild, weird, wacky stuff, Ed. Also because you think you would have heard something about it. You know, the various issues that Jared and Lawler had over the years, you know, they talked about it. You know, they both had, they both had no problem talking about it, never heard, and then Jerry came back and went to work outlaw in New Jersey that week, and then he came back again the next week.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Now, this is the only thing we have found, because I found a few listings last time, I think it was from when it was cool.com. No mention to Jerry Lawler, had the other matches. This is a mention of a Jerry Lawler. Now, I guess if you had heard the name by the ring announcer and you never saw him or read his name before, that could be how you spell it,
Starting point is 00:24:16 but it doesn't even say Lawler. Well, and this is a newspaper article. It has a byline by Mike Rowan, doesn't mention what news, it's from, but it's local paper coverage, probably not even the New York Times, the Jersey City Journal or whatever, but it has the rundown of the card that kind of seems like it would be written or helped out by one of the promoters. To the wild cheers of the crowd, the South American pair defeated the Mongols, but the excitement was just beginning. He reached for the microphone
Starting point is 00:24:55 and blah, blah, blah. Eighty-one, five. Eighty-one hundred fans. he goes into detail on all of the matches. And then also Daisy May upset Maria Delion. Jerry Lawler was an unpopular victor by a pin over Dan Sharp at 440. And that's the only line about that match. So they flew Lawler from fucking Memphis to New Jersey to beat Dan Sharp in four minutes and never return. I don't.
Starting point is 00:25:28 It doesn't. make too much sense. And again, I'm tempted to just call the king. I've talked to him ages, but just call the king. But like I said, he probably wouldn't remember. And because he
Starting point is 00:25:42 was like, do we do that last week? Forty years ago. Whatever. And he always talks about it. I can't remember. The thing was, it's not like he's mentally deficient. He never gave enough of a shit about a lot of this
Starting point is 00:25:58 to remember. You know who may know if it was him or not Bill Apter. I don't know if he shot... Son of a bitch! I don't know if he shot that show or not, just because I don't know how it would have been looked politically. Yeah, I don't know if Vince McMahon-Signor
Starting point is 00:26:11 would have said, okay, you can't shoot the garden because you shot that show. But if Jerry Lawler was in the New York tri-state area, by 75, would Bill Apter have already met him? He might not have met him, but he would have known who he was because the first articles in the after magazines about Lawler started in about 75
Starting point is 00:26:33 after that big run in 74 where it's like, holy shit. So that he started running stuff in 75 and the God damn it, what year was the Bert Reynolds centerfold? Oh, that was before that. Yeah, that was before then, I think, right? Well, but yeah, but no, but Lawler did the takeoff. Oh, I thought you meant Bert's one. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Well, I kind of, I kind of did both. but what I'm meaning is, is it, and for the kids out there, what magazine was it, was it, was it, was it Playgirl or was it Cosmopolitan?
Starting point is 00:27:09 I thought it was Playgirl, but now, probably Playgirl, yeah, but, you know, they all wanted to see Bert's wing a ding. And Bert Reynolds, a sex symbol movie star of the era,
Starting point is 00:27:22 did a nude centerfold for the newsstand magazine, and it just got so much, news. Covering his parts, though. Covering. Covering. Well, yes. Because Lawler did a play on that. Well, yeah, I'm about to, hold on. Who's, who's fucking his dog? You're just holding his head. Lawler did a play on it. Whereas, whereas Bert Riddles was, of course, yes, he was covering his bits with, what was it, the cowboy hat? Or whatever the fuck he had over his, over, you know, is, what did they call it, twig and berries? Lawler used the crown, and he did a takeoff on the bearskin rug of Bert Reynolds' nude center. And not only did after run it, but actually they had black and white prints,
Starting point is 00:28:12 because there was a black and white magazine anyway, prints made eight by tens and tried to sell them at the fucking table. And teeny saw him the first week, I got one. But teeny saw him the first week. He's like, no, we're not doing it. Put him back in the fucking suitcase. but anyway where were we going with that who would know if lawler was there who would be aware of we'll after we got we got we got I'm writing down a note Willie if you're listening but I'm
Starting point is 00:28:41 going to send you an email yeah we hear from every now and that when we mention them re loller all right we're just making this up now as we go a lot well we're going to get to the bottom of this kids that's right Hawaii well it's your show uh it is Have you told the people about our shirts? I haven't had an opportunity yet, but, uh... We'll jump right in. It's been such an interesting show so far. Why not?
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Starting point is 00:29:42 But thank you so far to everyone who has purchased one of, or in some cases every one of the brand new products. Or all numbers in between of those products. You got the drive-through logo, you can proudly proclaim your loyalty to this program, or to me personally, you can get corny. And we got on the shop app. That's a big deal, right?
Starting point is 00:30:07 You can't just be some jackleg running around, riding a Ferris wheel at the County Fair and be on the big shop app. That's only for the distinguished merchandisers such as ourselves through our friends at Shopify. Well, we should probably, why don't we just talk about them right now? Because actually, Jim, anybody could,
Starting point is 00:30:27 do that for only a dollar a month to try it out. Wait a minute, you mean the guy running the Ferris wheel at the county fair if he goes to Shopify for only a dollar a month, he can have the same kind of commercial platform as you and me, big stars, the magnitude of us
Starting point is 00:30:43 such as we are? Well, I don't know what products he would have, so I can't just say generic person with nothing to sell goes to Shopify, becomes millionaire. I don't know if that's necessarily an honest story, but I think we could say, if this Ferris wheel man somehow has parts that he legitimately acquired
Starting point is 00:31:00 that he wants to sell for other Ferris wheel operators, he can open up a store, and it can be powered by Shopify. Well, we'll see about that. There are our friends. Now, folks, I'll tell you what, if you've got a great idea for a business, if you want the number one checkout on the planet, if you want the big boys handling your dreams to make them realities,
Starting point is 00:31:22 then you've got to go with Shopify, except if you're going to sell parts for Ferris Wheels to county fairs in which case, sorry, pal, we put the Iggy on you. They're not going to deal with you because you have pissed me off. But everybody else, you can, you can sell ice cream to Eskimos, you can, you can sell sand to people in the desert. You can sell everything in between as long as you're with Shopify and you get on that shop app because that means you're playing with the big boys. And right now, you can sign up for your $1 a month trial period by going to shop. Shopify.com slash JCE.
Starting point is 00:32:00 That's all lowercase. Shopify.com slash JCE to upgrade your selling today. And I forgot you know what you're going to hear, Brian. Well, that's going to be all over the place. Your ears are going to be ringing when you deal with these people. You'll think you've got tinnitus in a positive fashion. Shopify.com slash JCE. That's right.
Starting point is 00:32:26 On mute. That's right. and off mute. That's right. Shopify, they power hour store. They could power you. Check them out. It's the power hour. It's the power hour. You hosted the power hour a few times, I believe. That was my show. And I'll have you know that we had more viewers on Friday night at 10 o'clock on TBS that they do now on Wednesday night and Saturday night put together. Well. Because it was my show. Before we get to some of the shows that took place, Ron SmackDown. and there's things to talk about.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Let's talk about a few things first. Jim, something we did not have an opportunity last week to talk about because it happened during a period of time. We were getting ready for these shows, and we had a lot of things planned, but the passing of Bill Mercer last week. Yes, and 99 years old, I guess he, except for a fellow from Mexico, he may have been the oldest living wrestling personality,
Starting point is 00:33:26 or something to that effect. but it was great to see they covered a lot more than his wrestling involvement in, you know, the articles. Obviously, most of it was wrestling websites, but he was famous at other circles, and they covered him primarily for his other exploits. He'd been a teacher at North Texas for like 40 years in broadcasting journalism. He had been a reporter. He'd done wrestling back into the 50s. and then took a break for quite a while because he was a real life news reporter and broadcaster.
Starting point is 00:34:04 He is the guy who actually officially informed Lee Harvey Oswald that he was being charged with the murder of John F. Kennedy. He was covering it on the scene for one of the local stations. He broadcast all kinds of sports. That's how Fritz got him involved again. He had done it in the 50s, but then Fritz brought him back because he was so, well known in the community and he was a real sports voice to those people it was like having your you know your major football or basketball commentators and whatever your market is doing the wrestling show too and he did uh the world class show up until almost to the end but my god
Starting point is 00:34:51 40 years ago when i knew him he was almost 60 that's just insane i mean he's had an incredible life going from, you know, early television and broadcasting to real news, to multiple sports, to fame in wrestling and being a teacher. He's got everything in the world named after him and broadcasting and journalism and things like that in Texas. It was just, he's a really nice guy and really, like, like Lance Russell. for the people of Texas. Does that make any sense? He was just a nice guy. He was kind of local, but still they knew he was a big deal, and they could believe him when he talked to him.
Starting point is 00:35:39 And he wasn't a professor like Gordon Solie. He wasn't really teaching him anything. He was just letting him know what was going on, and he had the inside scoop. I almost feel like credibility-wise, maybe not a perfect analogy, but similar to Ed Waylon. with fans of Western County. Oh yeah, but much less pomposity. Right, just in terms of the credibility. Ed Whalen was a, was credible before wrestling and beyond wrestling. He brought that to wrestling.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Bill Mercer, same thing. The comparison of Lance Russell, I almost feel the comparisons better to talk about two guys that started as outsiders that never looked down on wrestling, that understood it, that could talk to it. Whenever I saw a Bill Mercer interview,
Starting point is 00:36:24 whether it was in any of the Von Erick documentaries or various things throughout the years, he never looked down on wrestling. He understood that it was an important part of his career, and, you know, I think some people do, and I think the people, you know, I always found his perspective very interesting, because he was such a credible guy doing
Starting point is 00:36:44 something that a lot of people, especially then maybe, would mock every now and then. He did it, and he had no problem with it. Well, you know, and it's a good comparison with Lance, and both they both lived to be 90, you know, whatever also. And just went so many eras of broadcasting. But Bill was even more, Lance got, once he got involved with wrestling and Jarrett's company,
Starting point is 00:37:12 that had been 25 years later or whatever. He was mostly a television executive. And then Jarrett's company took off. And he just hired Lance, you know, full time at that point. Well, full time, Lance still was more closely. involved with the promotion. He did the Saturday morning TV, the Monday night announcing another house show once
Starting point is 00:37:32 a month and you know, that was full time for Lance but he didn't again go back out and go into real television again. So Mercer was just, you know, is amazing he kept his finger in everything.
Starting point is 00:37:51 But at the same time this guy, he's such a experienced broadcast at the time I'm there, I'm what, I'm 23 or 24 or whatever. And he did the local promos. So, you know, he was trying not to break, but everyone's why you could see he had the twinkle in his eye when I'd try to do that. I'd try to break him because Mark Lawrence was impossible.
Starting point is 00:38:13 It was like Mark Lawrence. I told him one time, I said, you look like he ought to be stand on top of wedding cake. He was just like a kin doll. He never broke that nice guy, but he had just that dry, monotonistic mood that he had. Well, it seems that the chainsaw has just penetrated Sunshine's abdomen. The winner of the match, Kevin.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Kevin. Yeah, and, you know, I think he's a preacher, like in real life, but he's just the most even person you've ever seen, and you couldn't get him to crack or do anything. But Bill Mercer ever once in a while, and the freebirds tormented him, but I just tried to get him with one liners, and he'd get the twinkle in his eye.
Starting point is 00:39:01 What'd you think when he went full C, Everett, C, Everett Coupe? And he had just the beard, no mustache. Oh, that I was, I was, I was, he had the regular face when I was there, and then he started doing different hair designs. I don't know, it was a little, he was just experimenting, maybe as he turned 60. He wanted to see what different type of face warmer. See, I always liked him on world class.
Starting point is 00:39:25 When I first started seeing that as a kid on. ESPN, the reruns. I liked him even though he was different. And, you know, when I first started reading various newsletters, a lot of the smart fans didn't because he didn't call the moves. And, you know, again, it's a very different style than a Jim Ross, let's say. But I always liked it. I always liked it. A sleep hold. A sleephole. I always liked the way he called it in the credibility, but especially in the vignettes and world-class TV eventually had a lot of those. My favorite always being him going to Jimmy Garvin's house. Jimmy Garvin? Jimmy Garvin? Jimmy Garvin? open the door.
Starting point is 00:39:58 And then Precious and Jimmy Garvin are in there. Like Chris Hanson. It's Chris Hanson with Daylight or whatever. And that was, and then you would see sunshine in the bikini or the robe or whatever. And you'd almost see Bill Mercer's face turning red. That was precious. Answered the door in just a shirt. Just a shirt, just one of Jimmy's shirts.
Starting point is 00:40:21 And then Jimmy Garvin said door and said, Bill Mercer, I can't believe you came to my house. The funny thing was the shirt. fit perfectly. And it was amazing. But yeah, because he was the straight guy. He was a straight guy like Lance was, like, you could, this, the announcer was not a gimmick. So you could trust him. He's the same one with these crazy people. And it put the attention on the talent. But you had to play it straight. You couldn't wink it to people. Or it would be like it is today. And it would just be, but for all the funniest thing
Starting point is 00:40:58 I ever heard Bill Mercer say wasn't on purpose because he he wasn't a funny guy on the air but remember when John Nord was Nord the Barbarian and he was from Minnesota John Nord but the Barbarian he's a Viking right kind of gimmick not as gimmicked up as the WW Vikings were here lately but he had the helmet with the horns on and he's got the goddamn Viking fucking chest thing or whatever.
Starting point is 00:41:29 And Viking, Bill Mercer is trying to say he's introduced from Norway, right? And Bill Mercer, of course, the thing is trying to recall his home country and trying to remember where this fucking Viking is from. And he said, well, there you have it, Nord the Barbarian from, from Norwayja. And I said, God. This is a guy who's done major fucking news, and it can happen to anybody, but it was so fucking funny from Norwegia, nor the Barbarian.
Starting point is 00:42:06 I always wish he had gotten a chance to be the one to call the Flair, Carri Von Erich title change, instead of Mark Lawrence. I guess Bill Mercer, he had something else that day, so we got Mark Lawrence, and not that that match was the greatest of their matches, but I always felt like Bill Mercer should have been the one doing it. Yeah, and,
Starting point is 00:42:22 And that was the thing. There was something even then he was doing, I can't remember what it was if I ever knew, but it was some type of either the mainstream sports or mainstream or something with the college maybe that he was affiliated with or whatever. When you think about all the tragedies that hit world class, at least the ones they talked about on air,
Starting point is 00:42:42 he was always the one delivering the news. I can almost visualize him sitting there. You know, we've reached another sad milestone here. Yeah. You know, it was always Bill Mercer. He had that credibility. and it was a different show when he was... You know, if you think about GWF,
Starting point is 00:42:58 you know, Pedicino and Beyond, it was always like Doyle King or, you know, just different people, especially after the Atlanta boys left. And I love Doyle if he's listening, by the way. No disrespect. But he wasn't Bill Mercer. You know, just, you know, think about what it would be like if Bill Mercer every now and then showed up and, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:16 called some of the matches with some of the characters of the GWF. There it is Bill Mercer, world-class announcer, Texas Broadcasting Legend, Beyond Wrestling. And, yeah, I guess go to YouTube, check out some of the footage of World Class TV if you've never seen it. If you're one of the younger listeners who's never seen world-class TV,
Starting point is 00:43:37 see what Bill Mercer was all about. But Jim, let's move from there to why don't we go to Smackdown, get Smackdown out of the way, and we'll talk about some other stuff. Boy, you make this next section of our program sounds so entertaining. Let's get this out of the way. Ladies and gentlemen, let's go from the obituaries to
Starting point is 00:43:54 international travel. Endless international travel. And you know what? We're going to change it up a little bit to be honest with you in the way that I talk about some of these segments on this program because even if they're good, if I try to tell this story, then I'm just recapping like a goddamn Shakespeare, soliloquy. The verbosity has
Starting point is 00:44:23 is off the charts now. There's some good stuff going on. There was some nice, violent, bloody, gutty material going on this week, but there's a lot of talking, and they're still in Europe on Smackdown, March 28th, and I think today may be the day
Starting point is 00:44:41 as we're talking about this, they finally get to come back up, but they were still there for Smackdown and Raw. In London, this is London. They need to at Edward R. Murrow to do the fucking could you AI Edward R. Murrow doing the cold open to their, fucking, that would
Starting point is 00:44:57 have been great. But there at the O2 Arena, what a crowd. I didn't hear whether they mentioned the number on SmackDown. I'm pretty sure it was sold out and it was 16,000 something on Raw. So again, Jesus, H. Christ. But this, and we may need to
Starting point is 00:45:15 talk about this later on in the program, three weeks six shows of this to me has kind of it's great to have an atmosphere like that right you want oh yeah but not six shows in a row where they won't stop singing and chanting to let the people talk do people need to talk with the microphone and but i mean it's so easy Cody was his entrance was first on Smackdown and they're singing and they're woeing and they would let him talk and then finally he says of five words or whatever mentions John Cena's name and boo and whoa I'm going to go face to face with John Cena on Monday and then Orton music and they sang his song and they chanted it was three minutes from the time he started coming
Starting point is 00:46:11 out before he spoke. And then they started chanting for both of them. And then Orden cut a great promo, putting Cody over, he needed to leave and prove himself, and then they did more singing. Are you noticing a pattern here, Brian?
Starting point is 00:46:32 Especially with SmackDown, and I'll let you actually respond to that, but Smackdown's three hours, and it ain't been as exciting as Raw as been. And if you condensed the singing, you might get a two-hour show. I'm so, go ahead. No, yeah, I mean, I'm sick of Boni M.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Enough of this. Well, you're sick of Bonin, who? What, what did you? I'm not even going to try to correct this. Boney M. Sick of Bonin him. Daddy cool. It's what they've been singing. Well, he don't now, don't try to suck up to me now.
Starting point is 00:47:05 I may be cool or I don't know whether I'm your daddy, but who are you talking about Bonin? This was the worst. Yeah. All right, Lou, go on back to the fucking show. You just completely derailed me, MVP. Let me think what I was trying to say. The chanting, the singing.
Starting point is 00:47:29 The chanting, the singing. Enough, that's enough. I'm ready for some bored AEW fans. I'm sick of jumping singing fans, especially when no one could get through a promo. And again, it's against the wrestler's law to cut people off when they're making noise like that. And I understand that for those people in those cities, this is a special deal of them. They paid a lot of money and they ought to be able to have as much fun as they want to have.
Starting point is 00:47:57 But God damn, it's almost like there's too much response for television. And it's just, and again, I'm going to ask you by the end of this show, I'm going to ask the cult of Cornett out there to tell me whether there was an overrun or whether or not they just went off the air on the main event thing because I'll get there. It's our new game, overrun or no overrun? Well, yeah, because it's, they never overrun, smack dad, nevertheless. Orton does a great job. He told Cody's history and he put him over.
Starting point is 00:48:31 He's really comfortable speaking. And he said, I respect you, I love you, I'm proud of you. And then you're going to beat fucking Sina and I'm, I'm going to beat Owens, and then I'm going to want to go for number 15, but I won't kick you in the balls. I'll look you in the eye and say, I'm coming for that belt. And right then, Drew's music hits, and here we had more singing and chanting. But I love Drew, again, a couple of Nepo babies, having a love fest.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Drew McIntyre has joined Gunther in my top five. I don't even know if I've awarded the other three spots yet. but Drew's, Randy doesn't deserve a title shot. You ought to get to the back of the line. The fans start chanting for CM Punk. WrestleMania should be Drew against Cody, but it isn't because of priest.
Starting point is 00:49:25 And they started singing again. And then by the time Drew got to the ring, he said, I'm going to take the title from Cody and told Randy that his back is hanging like a thread and he's going to break it. And as for you, Cody, and Cody just fucking, he just did the, he booted him and fell on his back and upper cutted him. And Orton went for the RKO and Drew slipped it and they played the music.
Starting point is 00:49:53 And we were 25 minutes into the show. I'm not critiquing anybody's performances. They're all doing great here. You can't have a goddamn ambulance angle every week. I always say that either but it just takes so fucking long because everybody's so over they won't let them do anything.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Are you speaking to me? I'm not speaking. I don't know what to say. I mean, they're stars, the people are going crazy, they're enjoying being there, but yeah. You know, I'm not,
Starting point is 00:50:29 I think I said it to you off air. I'm starting to really hate Smackdown. Again, it's the three-hour show now and that's not forever. But, you know, when you think about what was on Raw this week, which we'll talk about later.
Starting point is 00:50:42 There's a few different things that I want to talk about, that I want to hear what you have to say. With SmackDown, there's a whole lot of show, and it takes forever to fill up, and I haven't enjoyed it in a while, and I don't know if I'm the only one feeling
Starting point is 00:50:58 a little bit of burnout. And again, the WrestleMania buildup this year is ridiculous, and because there's another three weeks, because they did it at the end of April, it kind of has extended things in an unnatural way. They're doing the same things
Starting point is 00:51:10 on both shows just to make sure everybody catches it and it stretches it out double the time. But yeah, it's a rough show to get through. So yeah, it was an opening segment. I like Drew McIntyre. I agree with you. I like him a whole lot more in the mic than in the ring, not to say anything bad about his end ring,
Starting point is 00:51:26 but on the mic you have to watch and listen to what he's going to say. But, you know, it was a fine segment, I guess. Future Cody, Orton, stuff at some point down the road. A fine, a fine segment. Is that like three stars? Is that what fine is? I would say middle of the road. Yeah, middle of the road.
Starting point is 00:51:42 It wasn't great. It wasn't awful. Well, the middle of the road would be two stars. That'd be like very good. If you're great in comic, good, very good, fine mint. If I'm going with a five car, five car system, if I'm going with a five star system, three is middle of the road.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Well, who said you're going with a five star system? I was using a five star system in my head when you said how many stars would you give it, three stars? Well, no, I just, I think we ought to go with the original that was created by Leonard Malton. and Norman Doolie. Well, it was ripped off by me and Weasel Doolee. Four stars, the movies get for you.
Starting point is 00:52:18 You can also have a dud. There was a lot of fucking old monogram pictures were duds in Leonard Malton's movie guide. I've still got one on the shelf of somewhere. I'll find that later. Anyway. But there's something about them that when you start watching them,
Starting point is 00:52:32 you can't look away. You have to see what that. How did this get put on film? Yeah. Or was it was it film? Middle of the road, I would say. All right. Well, they're inducting Stone Cole, Steve Austin, and Brett Hart from
Starting point is 00:52:48 WrestleMania 13 into the WWE Hall of Fame as a, what did they call it, some kind of moment, monumental moment or whatever the fuck. A moment to get Austin and Brett on the show somehow. Well, they'll be there, apparently, they said, at the Hall of Fame deal to. And I mean, somebody was making fun. Have they inducted a match before? It seems like that's not a new thing to me.
Starting point is 00:53:14 I thought they had done that before. They've not done that before, but I believe the UFC with their Hall of Fame, they've had matches that were big matches in the history of UFC going. It's not a crazy idea to do it, but we'll see the first match that's like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:53:28 When that goes in, that'll be a moment. Well, and that's the thing is, I guess I heard it from there, but the point is I'm not against the concept, because that was maybe the greatest wrestling match. I mean, you know, the the WWF of the 90s was mostly, you know, the pretty ladders with Sean and, you know, all of the other falderall.
Starting point is 00:53:55 But I've always said Austin and Hart could have been the main event at Starcade or in the mid-Atlantic territory or in the Omni or whatever the fuck as a wrestling match. So that's a good place to start. I'm not against the concept. I'd rather see them induct a match between those two guys like that instead of, you know, some random celebrity
Starting point is 00:54:17 that did a fucking guest host on Raw some night. You know, when you're really thinking about a match that would be the first match they put in there. Obviously, there'd be a lot of picks, Hogan, Andre, whatever it may be. They may want to keep Hogan far away from this. But when you think about matches and the result,
Starting point is 00:54:33 or specifically what came out, of it, is there a match that caused an industry to explode? Not that it was the lone thing, more than Steve Austin coming out of that match and the fan reaction and that kind of triggering everything. You know, as much as Austin 316 and the King of the Ring, it was the Brett feud. And to me, it was that match. And coming out of that match, it was clear that Austin was the top guy in the company to me as a kid, as a teenager.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Yeah. Well, it was, to me, as, as, uh, as a backstage minion. And that's what caused Vince to be able to go public was Steve Austin. And now, see, some people are going to say, well, Sting and Flair are the first clash of champions, which is same principle, but different application in that that got Sting over as a main event guy.
Starting point is 00:55:26 It didn't boost the intent. The business at that point was still doing well. Overall, Crockett's. And, of course, you know, his buying up of territories and everything and put him in the hole by that point, but there was not a ton of difference in the grosses at the houses and or the ratings after Sting and Flares
Starting point is 00:55:50 matched the clash of champions, but Sting was a main event talent in the people's eyes because of that and was elevated into that. Whereas Austin was the catalyst to kickstart business that had been wounded over the previous couple years. And while things were looking up from two years before, as you said, everything exploded under Austin. And that's, you know, that was the catalyst. But they're going into Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 00:56:24 We'll see if the scaffold match gets into this division of the Hall of Fame. Oh, come on now. Well, it has to be the one with PN News where they captured the flags. What if they said we want to put you in the Express in the Hall of Fame, but you have to do it from a top of scaffold. Yeah, I'll put my drone up there. I'll have a drone broadcasting from up there. You know what?
Starting point is 00:56:46 That was as if we'd have had a scaffold match today, we could have our drones flop there and peck at each other. Did anyone say to you when you were having those matches, like this is the future? Are they going to be doing this match forever going forward? We're going to do this with you guys, and then we're going to try to do it again in a few years, and then we're never going to do this ever again.
Starting point is 00:57:05 No, none of those things. ECW did it too, though. Well, obviously Dusty knew that we had done it because Dundee had us do it in Mid-South and because Dundee had done it in Tennessee, so there was some element of it stayed in a family. And then Dusty just said, oh, we'd do a scaffold match, baby.
Starting point is 00:57:29 and but at the time we were doing them they never they never either said we're going to have other people do these or not do the they didn't talk about any others in the future besides what we were doing at that and then we did some with fantastics in 88 and uh but but a lot of the boys the universal response from everybody that wasn't involved in it was what the fuck are you guys doing or rolling the eyes or we ain't going to be doing that shit or some combination of all of that oh are we still on raw or smackdown back to europe what are we talking about smackdown yes there there was a girls tag team match involved somewhere in there poor l a night defended the u.s title against brown strong man and i just want to mention this because
Starting point is 00:58:22 fatu came out and just beat the shit out of everybody It just gave L.A. Knight to Samoan drop and a couple of moonsaults to Mr. Strongman and, you know, got over like a million dollars, but they only went three minutes to begin with in this match. And I was thinking maybe L.A. Knight won the lottery, only having to go three minutes with his giant, fucking chest of drawers. He's a giant shiffrobe is what he is. He's very awkward to move around. Probably won't go into doorframe. but now solo and fatu are having words Brian did you catch this because afterwards the solo they fatu said some things and solo was telling her hey lower your tone
Starting point is 00:59:12 and basically the the last statement was I'm going to be the last man standing and win the U.S. title with or without you so the better not make that another three way Oh, God. I did. But, but. But now, poor, poor Tongaloa. They apparently, they just... Where is he?
Starting point is 00:59:39 Well, he, did he break his toe in that match? And that was a convenient time for us to never see him again. There's people come back from fucking heart transplant. That's the same match. Didn't Jimmy Fatu? Jimmy Fatu? Did Jimmy Uso break his foot in that match or something? Well, yes.
Starting point is 00:59:57 And somebody else. fucking, I can't remember, nearly died from asphyxiation or some shit. But the point is they got rid of Tonga Lois, so Solo had Tommy Tonga. And Tommy is the fall guy in all of this, but Fatu is a baby face in terms of the people are awed by his athleticism and fury, but he works better doing that. as a heel. I don't think it's the time to particularly make him a baby face, but if the problem
Starting point is 01:00:36 that I'm thinking is even if they just, okay, we're going to have Fai 2 versus Solo, is some similar styles that might diminish Jacob and or solo, because it might make Jacob's shit look less special and it might make Solo look like he can't do all the shit Jacob can do. Does that make sense to you? I don't know where exactly they're going. Obviously, Jacob could be the leader if he beats Solo, but I don't know if that's... I mean, it's weird the way they've minimized the bloodline story over the past half a year or so. It was the main thing on Smackdown. Everything revolved around the bloodline being there.
Starting point is 01:01:14 If they weren't there, Haman was. Then there was the second version of the bloodline with Solo, the Tongas, and Fatu. That was kind of doing something. Now, like, the bloodline's a non-entity. I mean, Roman Raines calls himself the... OTC, there's kind of nothing happening and he's barely on the shows at all. Now he is a little bit because they're weeks away from WrestleMania and on Smackdown, the people want to cheer Fat 2, they're teasing something, but Solo means a whole lot less than
Starting point is 01:01:45 he used to. Yeah, he's just kind of hanging out in a parking garage bitching at people. Yeah, they had Roman beat him a few times and then all of a sudden no one cares about Solo. Who knew that was going to happen? So I don't know. It's weird that the bloodline was the main thing. And now it's not. And I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:03 I mean, I kind of want them to do something and just get it over with already. Here's the thing. You can't have a bunch of top guys. You can only have a few top guys because if you have a bunch of top guys, then you obviously you're watering shit down. And sometimes when you're lucky enough to have an abundance, a plethora, if you will, of top guys, you don't need to see all of them. So I don't mind Roman being gone for a while,
Starting point is 01:02:30 and he comes back for the big thing. That's probably better because the other newer, fresher, sparkly or shinier things may outshine him that people got a chance to miss him. How can I miss you if you won't go away? That whole fucking thing, right? So that I don't have a problem. But the actual, like you said,
Starting point is 01:02:53 the diminishment of the whole bloodline. I don't think Roman should be necessarily in the bloodline anymore, but I think the mud line, as we call it, the outlaw mud line, the evil mud line, they got mixed up in the transporter, and they all came out evil with facial hair. That could have been, could be a bigger deal with Jacob Fatu still in it
Starting point is 01:03:19 and Solo doing something, and Tommy there to, be flunkies for a while longer and it seems like that I'm not arguing they put their eggs in the fattu basket but there's poor Solo and Tommy over there.
Starting point is 01:03:35 See you can't turn on I would hope they wouldn't turn him baby face yet either because I feel like there's money to be made with him and Roman. I don't even have money to be made as an expression you use anymore. It's going to be on a show that was sold to a local municipality for millions of dollars and everyone's going to make money. No, no, no, we're we're going to sell it to the Saudis.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Yeah, well, Someone will be paying so much. But Roman and Jacob Fatu, it's been teased. They've had moments, but as a one-on-one feud, that could be something. But again, Roman's barely there.
Starting point is 01:04:08 How many matches is he work in a year? He's on the Young Buck's schedule. Well, and he, well, that's actually apropos because he's same size as both of them. But that's, I see Jacob and Roman for something like, SummerSlam-ish or Survivor Series-ish or things like that.
Starting point is 01:04:28 I'm not saying that that's not a thing, but I don't think they need to have Jacob and Solo nattering at each other right now because people are going to choose sides. Solo comes out looking, nah, whatever. They should make Jacob the evil bloodline chief, and Solo loses to him and falls in line behind them, and they got Tomatanga, and they got Hicolayo and developmental. And then all of a sudden you're building up something to confront the OTC.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Who the hell are you to call yourself the OTC? TC. I'm the T.C. Right now. How about the NTC? I'm the new tribal chief. Yeah. I mean, something, but otherwise. Or the FTC.
Starting point is 01:05:07 The fucking tribal chief. I hate to say it because I like LA night, but otherwise you're just people running into these LA night segments where WW uses the fact that he's over to hide the fact that they're doing like worthless segments a lot of the time. Yeah. And he happens to be there
Starting point is 01:05:23 when other people come out and beat other people. You know the fans are going to react for him. You know, he's going to get a big pop, and then, you know, someone's going to beat him up. That's clearly what it's come down to, but we'll see where they go with the bloodline. All right. Well, and then, you know, I've skipped over.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Naomi with dramatic music was crying. That what she had to do. And then they had Naomi beat up Mia Yim and B-Fab. and then Jade came down and helped old BFab up and was helping her out and Mia Yom was there in the rain and she just left her for dead
Starting point is 01:06:05 and then Charlotte comes out as ready to kick the shit out of Mia. What the fuck? Played goddamn favorites, didn't you? But that's drama. As I heard Conan say one time in TNA, but that's drama for another day. That's the girls' drama.
Starting point is 01:06:23 They can cover that on the podcast that center on the girls' drama, can't they? Conan. Hi, Conan. Conan. Did you sign this card? Conan! Remember what the video? I mean, the vocal was funny enough, but just him getting tackled by that guy.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Yeah. Conan! Conan! What the hell? What's going? Hell. The guy's trying to stretch him, and he's just there going, what the hell? What is this guy trying to do?
Starting point is 01:06:53 fans for complete information on that one. That was a few years ago. But it's on the YouTube channel. Maybe Brian might think of the title of it. But yeah, what a fucking Mark photographer took fucking Callis down in Mexico. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Jim Cornett on Dodd Callis in Mexico or something like that. That's what it would do. Anyway, then at 10 o'clock at night in the USA time slot, they had Randy Orton versus Drew McIntyre. And I watched this one because again, this is what, this completes the look.
Starting point is 01:07:37 When you have, and besides the, and notwithstanding, as the chairman would have once said, notwithstanding the crowd singing, delay and everything, when you've got a building, it looks like that in a major international city with 16,000, whatever, people in it and a major league production and then you've got two top guys that are stars that look great that are great workers that are smart and serious their shit looks good they this
Starting point is 01:08:07 these international audiences are a dream audience for if you're in the wrestling business since a dawn of time before television you dream of a crowd where everything is so over you can go out and just fucking promo each other and do the bare minimums in the matches, but make the shit look professional and fucking get the people involved in it and they're reacting. And then do your finish or your angle
Starting point is 01:08:36 or whatever you're going to do and get reactions like this. That is the dream of everybody in the wrestling business. It didn't used to be where you would go out and do it for 25 minutes verbally and then seven minutes physically. It was kind of the other way around but this is even better.
Starting point is 01:08:54 But Orton and fucking Drew and they don't get hurt. They're in front of WrestleMania. They're too important. They do some professional shit. And then Owens comes down the aisleway and distracts
Starting point is 01:09:07 Orton and Drew hits the Claymore, one, two, three. And then Orton and Owens have their obligatory dust up where Owens is going to pile drive him on the desk and Orton trips him and goes for the punt and
Starting point is 01:09:23 Owens bails over the rail and he runs off. So it's just, it's, it's a 25 minute talking segment with these stars and these stars are going to go out and have a five minute match to lead to a little fucking tease where everybody takes two
Starting point is 01:09:39 bumps and off we go. It's that kind of show. Yes, you have any incisive thoughts on this piece of business? On this match, no. Nothing I could top your incisive thoughts. Okay, well, then we get to the meat of the matter. Because they go to the back and, of course, there's Drew McIntyre, he's leaving the building,
Starting point is 01:10:00 he's celebrating with old Jackie Redmond of what he's done. And as he goes out, I guess it goes through the door into the park garage, there's Damian Priest. It just jumps him and they have a big fight. And coincolinkidinkly, Drew McIntyre was wearing a leather jacket. And Priest choked slammed him through the windshield of a car. I'm not sure if it was real glass, but nobody was crying a river. And then it's, boom, he's done that,
Starting point is 01:10:30 and he's laying there and he's selling, and the officials are there. And so we, you know, we're still in that direction for mania. But then the deal is, as he's laying there selling McIntyre, by he is what I mean. Punk walks in with his security guards that just looks in snickers at him.
Starting point is 01:10:49 and then fucking walks off smiling. You know, it's become commonplace, these aggravated assaults and attempted homicides in the back. So it's just, it's a snickering thing. But that was a nice little touch. And then we got to the main event, which was the contract signing.
Starting point is 01:11:12 And I'm going to say this now so we can get not bogged down later before breaking this down. But this is what I'm trying. to figure out. Did the USA Network do an overrun? My DVR froze when they were still in the middle of this. Now, no, because it was in London, it was on, well, what the fuck was it on from London in
Starting point is 01:11:37 this country? Was it on Netflix or was it on in this country? It was on, in this country, it was on USA Network at 8 o'clock, like it always is, and I think it may have streamed on Netflix somewhere, but I'm not even sure. Well, but that's the thing is. people saw it before it would have aired here, but I didn't think it'd be on Netflix, so I was wondering if those people would be in another country because Raw is on netflip. I don't understand anymore, Brian.
Starting point is 01:12:02 It's become too complicated. But the point is, my DVR cuts off for some reason, and I can't change it, at 10.59 p.m. on Smackdown nights for the show. Now, normally they've done everything they're going to do, and maybe you don't miss the last few kicks, from the heel or whatever. But in this case, it froze up when Seth was still pitching his fit. And when I went and finally got to YouTube and watched the entire thing, they went another three or four minutes.
Starting point is 01:12:38 So for anybody who watched it as it happened, did USA do an overrun or did even they? The Almighty WWE and Lee Fitting, our production God, did they run over time because people wouldn't quit singing and get cut off the air in this country on USA? That's my question. Because I don't know at this point, which is the case. Have they ever done an overrun on SmackDown on USA
Starting point is 01:13:06 since it's been on it? Not that I remember, but I don't know for certain. Anyway, and they put the little bug for the credits, executive producers, Paul and Lee, They put that on while fucking punk was down on bended knee or whatever, maybe even before that at the end of the thing. But nevertheless, the contract signing was between Roman Rain, C.M. Punk and Seth Rollins.
Starting point is 01:13:35 And the intrigue has been how's Haman going to play into this? And, you know, they've been costing each other thing, as Punk said, neither one of you have ever beat me except with the other one's help. They've got this three-way mutual animosity society. going on. So now we're going to have the contract signing for WrestleMania. And Aldous is in the ring and he introduces Roman and Paul. And they go to the break on the entrance. I'm thinking,
Starting point is 01:14:02 okay, they won't, they won't take a break for the rest of the show. That's great. And when they come back, the fans are singing Roma and Roman Rains and chanting OTC. And he says, acknowledge me. And they chant again and then they sing again. And then Paul is classic. He takes his handkerchief out.
Starting point is 01:14:27 He wipes off the chair for Roman to sit, wipes off the armrest, and Roman sits down in the big chair at the head of the table and Paul kneels beside him with that beaming smile. And they start singing again and then Paul sings. And I'm starting to look at the goddamn clock. here because they're, you know, they got a long way to go at a short time to get there, right?
Starting point is 01:14:55 Because it's like 10 minutes and less at this point now that's on the air. So Roman was there to be acknowledged and to sign the contract and he signs and then Seth's music plays and they start singing again. And the whole arena is the whoa, whoa, or whichever tune he's got. and then Cess promo he was supposed to start out with you know you and I Roman we landed on the roof of this place in a helicopter 12 years ago and go through their history
Starting point is 01:15:34 and I'm thinking my God they won't quit fucking singing and he's trying to recite you know their entire lives and we were born poor children in a fucking log cabin and the crowd started singing again and Roman was looking, and then the crowd started chanting see him punk while Roman looked bored. And then Roman has to respond to Seth.
Starting point is 01:16:00 We died a long time ago. I made this place. And, you know, I made it what it is today. And they argued for a little while. And Seth was like, you let the biggest snake into the garden. And he was mad that Roman didn't let him finish punk off. And now he's going to have to clean up Roman. man's mess again and he signs it and then like Mussolini with four minutes lefty the big pop and they sang his song and the
Starting point is 01:16:35 see him punk chance and a thing Brian before I go into the rest of this did you notice that besides for the fact that they were enjoying singing and chanting that the people weren't particularly enthralled by the content of what Seth and Roman were going through, it was dragging just a bit until punk came out. Do you agree? To an extent, I thought Seth did a good job.
Starting point is 01:17:04 I didn't like Roman here at all. I thought it was the most unnatural, and I know he's not necessarily Mr. Natural on the mic in terms of, unlike punk and even Rollins when he gets fired up, it comes across like a guy playing a role, but I thought that was, I just didn't believe him at all here.
Starting point is 01:17:24 And I thought it was, I thought he was the one kind of slacking out of the three of them. It was, it was a little, it, it took a while. And then punk comes out and I've come here to chew bubble gum and sign a contract. And they chance see him punk. And punk is trying to fucking read it. And I'm looking at the clock, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:17:48 there's like two minutes fucking left on the air. but the deal is he is looking for something he's supposed to be looking for something and Paul comes over and tells punk I know what you're looking for and it's in there and he kneels down with punk and they have a moment where you are closing the show at WrestleMania yeah you get to live your dream you're a WrestleMania main eventer and Paul kissed him on the head punk ought to see if Larry's vet can maybe give him some spray for that. But that was a fucking meaningful
Starting point is 01:18:24 thing. And right there, Roman again says, that's right. We're checking all the boxes. One man's dream is another man's favor. Check. And Seth loses it. He doesn't deserve it.
Starting point is 01:18:39 It's sacred to me. And that's where my DVR froze. And when I went to look at the YouTube clip, they went another, like I said, three or four minutes. So, the best part was either in an overrun or not on the air on USA. So check it out on YouTube if that happened to you. But that's where...
Starting point is 01:19:02 I think it was on USA. I think it may have just been your DVR. Well, but did they do an overrun? Because they had to have done an overrun. My DVR cut off at 1059, they won another four fucking minutes. That's the point I'm making. Somebody needs to clarify this for me. but nevertheless punk got into it and he was teary-eyed and he was overcome with emotion but at the same time he stood up he wanted he said i want to thank london
Starting point is 01:19:34 chicago and louisville kentucky and brian did you know that there was a study done that there are more cm punk fans per capita in louisville kentucky than there are in any any other town in the united states did you realize that They did that study. Down to Courier Journal. There's one guy who lives down in Shively. He's a Mormon. He's got like 18 kids. Skewed the average or elsewise it would have been Peoria. But he thanked London and Chicago and Louisville.
Starting point is 01:20:07 And he said, it may be corny. But I want to thank you all for getting me, putting me in this position, etc. And then Roman said, well, you ought to be thanking me. So punk gets down on his knee in front of Roman. and he sarcastically thanks him. And he lays it on thick with, oh, thank you, my tribal chief, for allowing me to share your ring in this whole spiel. And he says, and I will see you at WrestleMania.
Starting point is 01:20:40 And he stands up and he says, and by the way, that's not the favor I'm owed. Oh, and then Roman look, what the fuck? And you see Paul kind of, huh? and then they play the music and then they're done with the thing. This was the, I wish they'd have put this on at the top of the fucking 10 o'clock hour,
Starting point is 01:21:01 so they could have, they could have milked this for 20 more minutes and it wouldn't have got old, I don't think, but some of the other shit got old in about five. What'd you think? I thought, you said everything really picked up when punk was there, but I thought Rollins was great here.
Starting point is 01:21:16 This is the Seth Rollins I like. Yeah, he did fire up. He showed a lot of oomph. He just had to. to go over all of those details while the people wanted to sing and chant. He delivered the irrational hatred of punk perfectly. Because it's consuming him and it just eats him. I mean, he's really good in this.
Starting point is 01:21:34 I really like it because a lot of it's probably real. He's really good. Yeah, he's really good when he's irrational. I think punk was great here. And in terms of the favor, what do you think the favor is? Is the favor having Heyman walk him to the ring? Is the favor? It couldn't be, you will cost,
Starting point is 01:21:51 throw me in the match and help me. I mean, what do you think it is? Well, I mean, it's going to be more than just walk me to the ring. He's not giving him away at his wedding, right? I don't have you would ceremonially walk me to the ring or, you know, what, don't we? Well, I'm just telling you. You know, and then kiss me like he kissed me the other night when you gave me the news, kissed me on my forehead and spank me and called me sunny boy.
Starting point is 01:22:19 obviously it can't be yeah fuck the guy or whatever I don't know where they're going with it one would think that it would be some type of manipulation that punk would want that a business manager or advisor could give or do
Starting point is 01:22:39 or sign in some way but I don't know where they're going with it now that's the good part about it and that's why it got the big ooh just as something as simple as that you know, punk and Drew had to people screaming and yelling when they were fighting over a fucking plastic bracelet and now just who, what is the favor and
Starting point is 01:23:00 who's going to do what for who has become a thing. Because it's something everybody can understand. That's why it's getting over. Well, that was WWE Smackdown continuing this European jaunt and we shall return with jet lag right after this. All right. what that means, Jim, it's time to move on. I was already ready without the organ.
Starting point is 01:23:29 I want to ask you about a couple things. I know we still have questions. We still have maybe some guests to program, and we have raw, of course, but a few topics before we get there. Have you been following the Mickey James? I don't even know if you would call it a controversy, but she made some comments on, what is it, LFG?
Starting point is 01:23:47 Is that what it is? Is it LFG? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I always think lifetime goals, but that doesn't even work. But legends and future greats of America, Lego, or Lego My Leg. The last time I heard about Mickey James being controversial or being in the middle of controversy was when they were switching places with her and Michelle McCool on next season of that program to apparently justify Mikkel McCool.
Starting point is 01:24:21 McHale McCool's status as a trainer and legend. Well, apparently on this past weekend, Mickey James was speaking to Zena Sterling, who is a mentee of Bubba Ray Dudley. And she had just had a match with... Is mentee? No, minty is not a word. It would be protege, protege and mentor. Well, apparently...
Starting point is 01:24:49 Or maybe she has minty fresh breath, but go ahead. Well, apparently she's been training under Bubba Ray Dudley and had a match. Oh, that kind of thing. Under it, is she always underneath or every once in while she on top? Again, here we go again, but she had a match with Tamara May Steel. Real quick, Zena Sterling and Tamara May Steel, do they pass the name test? Well, it sounds like both of them are pretty sharp. I don't know about
Starting point is 01:25:19 who was Tamara May Mary Sterling who Golden May Steele Tamara May Steele or she may lie or she might
Starting point is 01:25:32 she might very well fuck around I don't know I don't I don't know I'd have to see the entire package so to speak I'm only hearing these names verbally, but it sounds a little over the top for people who ain't in a business yet.
Starting point is 01:25:52 Well, apparently we have a quote here. There may be some audio, but let me read the quotes. It says the audio cuts off the quote. Here's what Mickey James said to Zena Sterling, questioning her in-ring attire, I lived during the Diva era, and we fought very, very hard to not have to wrestle in lingerie anymore. Since I'm a female, I could speak on this.
Starting point is 01:26:18 It's very frustrating when women go out there and wrestle, and all I see is their ass. And I can't look past it. It's all I see. I can't look away. It's very distracting. So you want to be taken serious as a wrestler, but you're wrestling in pretty much jazzed up lingerie,
Starting point is 01:26:40 and that's my opinion. And that's coming from someone who's had to wrestle on TV a lot. I actually don't have any issue with what she just said there as far as you are proof of that. Because how many times have we been talking about a match? But did you see so-and-so's ass cheeks hanging out?
Starting point is 01:27:05 Yeah. I mean, I see, you couldn't look past that. I don't disagree with what Mickey James is saying. And that isn't to say... Not very inflammatory. That isn't to say that every now and then you can't have someone whose gimmick is, you know, here's my ass, I guess. Well, yes, every once in a while, you've got to have ass as a gimmick.
Starting point is 01:27:21 But it seems like it's become a thing where you have to just have a thong and a wedgey and all sorts of under-ass support to lift the ass up higher. It's all focus on the ass. They hide the tits, but it's just all ass. And there are matches. Mickey's right. There are matches you watch. You want to pay attention.
Starting point is 01:27:44 how talented the person is or isn't. And it's just ass. It's just nonstop ass. Just right there in your face. Just the ass. Yeah. Not to say that... So why... Not to say that Moor's girls didn't have asses, but they hid them. They wore fucking bathing suits like it was the 50s.
Starting point is 01:28:03 I'm not saying you have to do that, but... Some of them, it was, I think, demanded by the public officials that they cover up some of those buttocks, but there were... But I get your comment. But when you go out there, when you go out there with a wedgy and you have things under your ass, like, I don't even know what you would call them. They're just fucking threads under their ass to lift their ass. If you're putting the focus on your ass, you can't be mad when people want to pay attention to that ass. And back that ass.
Starting point is 01:28:33 There's a lot of ass. I mean, it's just a lot of ass. A lot of ass. If you're into ass, you should be watching wrestling. Can we put an ass? Wait a minute. Every time we say ass, But let me ask you this.
Starting point is 01:28:46 And let me ask you this. What's inflammatory and controversial about that? That's kind of what we're just saying is, yeah, everybody's got their ass hanging out. I have an article here. This is from Essie Scoops and the quote here. James's comments have sparked a discussion among fans about ring attire and the progress female talent have made, especially in WWE over the past decade. Some argued that James is right to criticize what they perceive as an over-sexualized attire.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Others believe that it is ultimately Sterling's choice to wear, W-H-E-R-E, to wear what she feels as best. What? To wear? Where? To wear what she feels is best, and that James has also worn similar attires. Well, and hold on now, to be fair, that's kind of what she said, too. I came through that era where we had to put up with that. So it wasn't like she was saying, hey, I think I'll go out in this fucking teddy
Starting point is 01:29:57 from dressing for pleasure in Montclair, New Jersey or something. Velvet Sky tweeted out, I feel attacked. Laugh. Laugh out loud. Wait. Nothing wrong with sex appeal and wrestling. Diva era or not. I personally find nothing wrong with her gear.
Starting point is 01:30:19 Just my opinion. But what do I know? A emoji of someone crying with laughter. Let those pigeons loose, Zena. And another emoji. And also, let's bring up another thing. This is a fucking reality TV show. They've got producers and
Starting point is 01:30:39 it's built for, drama. So did the producer say, hey, Mickey, cut a promo on the girl's lingerie outfit. Let's get something to whatever. I mean, I'm not saying that she's lying through her teeth, but maybe she might not have given two shits either way. And they just, well, let's, let's run with that. There's something there also. But I don't again see anything to make any, besides the people who were currently or formerly wearing lingerie, nobody else should be particularly, pissed off about it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know why
Starting point is 01:31:17 apparently a lot of people got upset with me, a lot of people, a lot of fans, a lot of crazy fan. How dare you tell you what to wear, don't you? What do you know? Let's not call those fans people, whatever we do. But, you know, is there anything to be said about, you know, if a woman had a great ass in the eyes of, you know, me?
Starting point is 01:31:36 Or, you know, in the eyes of whoever, in the eyes of society, if everyone agrees. In the eyes of the Lord. If everyone says, wow, that's a great ass, does she have to expose it if she was a wrestler? Is there anything that she could do? Who's the last person with a great ass who didn't have it? Like, out.
Starting point is 01:31:51 Just all the way out. Like, it's, I mean, it's true. I mean, Mickey James is not saying anything wrong, but it's also true that she wore revealing outfits. But you seem to be taking it as her saying, we did that in my era. That was the battle we had so that you didn't have to do that. Right.
Starting point is 01:32:08 And there's some truth to that. And as well, there's also some truth. to just with everybody with their ass hanging out, then that's all that. I can understand why the ladies, especially the ones at the top, want to be taken more seriously as athletes. They understand that the glamour
Starting point is 01:32:26 and the sex appeal is part of the overall package. But if everybody's thing is to just, I'll get noticed because I got a good ass and I'll wear lingerie and show it, it's the same thing as when there was one guy doing a pile driver, oh my gosh, now when there's, 20 or when there was one guy doing something else and then there's 20 it's it's just now it's too much from everyone so I think that may have been part of her point also do you think maybe
Starting point is 01:32:54 they should go the other way and embrace this like a best asked championship you know what if they just have everybody you know you always hear about topless dancers what about bottomless wrestlers see in some cases they can wear anything it looks like they're almost bottomless some of these girls well that's what I'm saying they can wear anything that's the point they can wear anything they wear an alpaca sweater down to the waist, but they got to be completely naked from between the waist and the ankles, and then they can wear shoes
Starting point is 01:33:21 so they don't break their toes. And then let's see how all those fucking figure-eightes look and everything. Well, that is the update on that. We will stay on top of this story, and we'll see if Mickey James is anything to say once the time on the show ends. So you're volunteering to stay on top of Mickey James? I'm volunteering.
Starting point is 01:33:38 She's married to Nick Aldous. He's a general manager. I'm volunteering to stay on top of the store. I'll stay on top of him. Okay, this took a turn I did not expect, and I guess those will be the whitest teeth that Jim comes across today. It's been on every show that joke lately, Jim.
Starting point is 01:33:55 Let's get to another thing here. Let's preview the upcoming AEW Dynasty. Oh, boy, howdy. That is another thing, isn't it? Which is taking place this weekend as we are recording April 6, 2025, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Well, how many matches? 13, 14?
Starting point is 01:34:16 What's on tap for this big event? Right now, there are six matches listed on Wikipedia, but if I go to AEW's page, they only have five. And there's another TV to come, so who knows what'll happen? How is their own website behind Wikipedia? Well, Wikipedia may not be official. It could be people guessing. Let's see what we can figure out here.
Starting point is 01:34:39 for the AEWTNT Championship with no time limit and no outside interference Daniel Garcia the champion versus Adam Cole oh boy so it can go all night and nobody can interfere that means we got to look at just these two
Starting point is 01:35:02 and for a long time do you predict the title change or what do you think happen. Oh, good Lord. I don't. I mean, they seem to be in love with Garcia, even though we haven't been subjected to him as much lately as we were there for a while. Poor Adam Cole, I don't know what else to say. I feel so bad for him. He's a nice young man. Could they have this before they open the doors and just say, we couldn't hold them, folks? Here's a package for two minutes. Well, Jim, another match announced. This is on Wikipedia, but not on their page, title versus mask
Starting point is 01:35:42 for the Ring of Honor World Championship, the champion Chris Jericho versus the mask, Bandito. Oh, boy. Thank you, Maskman. Yes. Maybe Bandito will steal away into the night, and we won't have to worry about that. I mean, Jericho's going to try to do
Starting point is 01:36:05 some Lucha, and Bandito's going to try to do some American and people ain't going to really give too much of a shit except for the most diehard of the fans. And it's for the Ring of Honor title which is not exactly
Starting point is 01:36:22 as prestigious as it once was. Imagine how much territory that takes in. So there you go. Well, Jim, the next match listed here. For the AEW World Trio's championship, the Death Riders. Claudia Ocastignoli,
Starting point is 01:36:37 PAC and Wheeler Uta versus rated FTR Coop, Cash, and Dax. Cope Cash and Dax. My God, it sounds like some kind of formula for taking drugs. Cope CACCash and Dax. I mean,
Starting point is 01:37:00 what more is to be done with this? Is Dax going to be pissy at edge are they turning FTR heel we said that probably wouldn't be the worst thing that ever happened but the death riders are death to people's attention so it is what it is hopefully there'll be some type of turn on the on the baby face team but then who's going to be on edge's side if FTR turned on him and if they turn on each other I don't would suggest both Dax and cash maybe apply for Social Security while it's still in existence because that'd be the end of both of them right now.
Starting point is 01:37:43 Did you see that footage going around of them on Collision? It was FTR versus Kyle O'Reilly or Roger Strong. Oh, God. Yeah. And they, one would think both those teams would have been amongst the most technically proficient performers in the company and they couldn't get out of their own way. I fucking died laughing. It was, it's like a minute and a half clip.
Starting point is 01:38:07 And I mean, it was just, it was a, they couldn't get together for some reason. And it just kept botching and botching and they couldn't stop themselves. But I think once they got off, they just got rattled. Cash had tried a leapfrog at one point. And Roddy didn't go down far enough. And Cash was jumping sideways because he didn't think he was going to get over him. And they kind of crumbled. And then they were trying to do an old,
Starting point is 01:38:34 a heart attack, heart foundation, bear hug clothesline, but every time Dax would run to one side of the ropes, cash would turn to the other side. They were just crisscrossing around and couldn't figure it out. It was bad. Then they, you know, they kind of got back on the same page, but it was brutal, yes, for a while. I felt bad for them.
Starting point is 01:38:57 Well, we'll see what happens next. For the AW World's Women's Championship or World Women's Championship, women's world championship, timeless Tony Storm, the champion, with Luther versus Megan Bain. Well, I'm thinking that they like Megan Brain because she's the new flavor of the moment
Starting point is 01:39:22 and she's a striking-looking physical specimen. We still haven't figured out because now, as somebody told me, somebody sent an email, Oh, remember I mentioned that to you, saying that, well, she just like broke in a year or two ago and they saw her and signed her before the WW had seen her. Then somebody else has said, no, this, she's been wrestling since maybe 2017 or whatever. So I don't know what the story is.
Starting point is 01:39:52 Someone sent me something that says she was out of OVW. Yes, and I saw that also. But now that would be more recent OV. and obviously you don't know what you're getting these days. But I, again, if she's been around seven or eight years and she's not in the WWE, something's wrong with her. Maybe it's mental, I don't know. But if she's only been around a couple of years and they just signed her up early somehow,
Starting point is 01:40:25 then there will be hope for her, but it ain't going to fucking happen here in any way, because they take women who are really over in the world of wrestling and put them under. So much less one from scratch. Tony Storm has been the exception, and she's apparently decided that the audience for the funny, ha-ha, ironic wrestling is what AEW's got and it's worked for. So apparently she's right. I can't see him switching the belt.
Starting point is 01:40:57 Why do the match? I mean, I guess they don't mind beating Megan Bain, but I wouldn't beat her yet. But we'll see what happens. Well, would you spanker? Jim, in a three-way match for the AEW International Championship, the champion, Kenny Omega versus Rickettsay versus Speedball Mike Bailey.
Starting point is 01:41:21 Is the Hong Kong-Fouye TV show theme under public domain yet that we could play that for him? I mean, this is going to be that there's, self-indulgent, you know, uneven parallel bars routine, where the three flippy fellas get to do all the flips and say what you want, and I have about Kenny, at least in this environment he's looked at as a main event guy. And ricochet, they thought would be,
Starting point is 01:41:55 and he became an annoying nerd. and so they kind of made him a, you know, Dick Heel, but he's still somewhat athletic, and he and Kenny could certainly do the, play the parts of Olga Corbett and Nadia Cominici without having some fucking tiny little grinning goof job guy muddy this up just because he can do a bunch of fucking gymnastics routines. He looks like he would have been a hell of a cheerleader in high school.
Starting point is 01:42:28 he might even have made the men's team. But how is this fucking underneath goof in the middle of a top guy and a guy they're trying to make a top guy? Just because he can cartwheel? Help be out with this. I don't have an answer for you. I am not Tony Kahn. Do you think he's going to cartwheel his way into a championship?
Starting point is 01:42:50 No. So you think they're going to beat him already? I guess the three way you get around that, you can just beat Rickokosha. Or Rickshaw beat Kenny. Well, I don't believe I don't think anybody of these two is going to beat Kenny, but if it was one of them it'd be ricochet or else
Starting point is 01:43:05 wise spitball might fucking pull out a goddamn ball peen hammer and wrap somebody over the head but no, they've done that here that doesn't work either. All right, you with the hammers. I apologize for any noise behind me. There are gardeners somewhere in the vicinity. Oh, good God.
Starting point is 01:43:20 I'm worried about being blown off the face of the map and then washed away into a sea of goddamn floodwaters. and you've got gardeners out there. Are we interrupting? Do you have a cookout scheduled later on? They are not my gardeners. They are some ones, as I said, in the vicinity somewhere,
Starting point is 01:43:37 but Jim, the main event, AEDW dynasty in Philadelphia, the city of brotherly love. For the AED World's Championship, John Moxley, the champion, versus swerve Strickland with Prince Nonna. I mean, don't you think that, that it would be just out of nowhere and what the fuck if swerve is the one who just brings this
Starting point is 01:44:04 all to an end and then they just go away or whatever. The catch 22. Do you just wanted to go away so you do it and swerve wouldn't be outrageous with their fan base or is it something where you've invested this much time and things aren't completely dead? Let's hold off until Texas Stadium. Yeah, yeah, there's still a pulse. and if we hit it with the defibrillator every once in a while, you know, we can get a heartbeat.
Starting point is 01:44:32 Let's hold off to the stadium show to put an end to this fucking lunatic and the way he's tanked the company. Swerve ain't going to win this because, like I said, it's not time. They haven't built, I mean, there's past time for Moxley to lose, but they haven't built this up where this would be the culmination of anything, and they're supposed to be in a stadium in a couple of months. So I don't know. They'll probably just puncture him with something.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Swerve, it's his turn to get skewered. Remember, he got the syringe and then Moxley got the nails. So this time it'll be a red-hot poker. They'll just impale him on the, somewhere, you know, like on shoulder skin or something, it won't hurt too bad. How many minutes into the match or how close to the finish you think Wheel or Yuta will do his running? and give somebody Danielson's knee
Starting point is 01:45:28 I'd say six minutes before the finish takes place right before they call for an extra blood transfusion well again those are the matches announced so far for AW Dynasty on the 6 this weekend as we are recording nothing with Christian Cage and Nick Wayne so maybe there'll be something there to settle their father's son
Starting point is 01:45:48 or whatever the hell it is feud and yeah that's the show Well, yeah, six matches announced last time they had 13. I can't wait to see what they're hiding from us. They spring on us at the last moment. Jim, before we get the raw, one question here. We'll have more questions later on, but this is from the Cult of Cornette Facebook group. This was sent in by Dave Parsons.
Starting point is 01:46:11 In Jim's opinion, who would have the better podcast? Bobby Heenan or Dusty Rhodes? Oh, my God. Bobby, without a doubt. And that's not, that's not disparaging Dusty. Dusty would be one of the great podcast guests. But whereas Bobby, Bobby was not only witty and quick and funny, but he could, as a manager, he could kind of drop back and be the host a little bit
Starting point is 01:46:45 and, you know, do some bits with some other people where they would get their chance to shine. and just different personalities. Also, I think Bobby would have given more oomph to it as a program, whereas Dusty would be, I'd just come out and do my thing, baby. It wasn't it even if he just Dusty was good at creating things for other people or being dusty. I can't see him as the host interviewing people rather than being the personality that comes on. you know, Johnny Carson brought on fucking Bob Hope.
Starting point is 01:47:26 Bob Hope didn't really bring on Johnny Carson. Does that make any sense? Who do you think would have been a better podcast host in their prime? Bobby Heenan or Jerry Lawler? Oh, God. Now, again, Lawler did a good job because he had that talk show. And, well, talking, I won't say variety show, but a talk sports-oriented show, wrestling,
Starting point is 01:47:54 variety, local events, the Jerry Lawler show in Memphis for years. And he could kind of draw back and play the host and be the guy to do the banter with some of the other guys. I think Bobby would still have been the best of the bunch. Lawler would be second and Dusty again. I see Dusty as the guest rather than the host. All right.
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Starting point is 01:54:03 We love them here. You will love them there. In your ear, that is. We'll love them everywhere. Oh, you'll love it near. Oral stimulation. Okay, Jim, let's move on here. Let's go back.
Starting point is 01:54:17 Once again, across the sea, to the endless run through Europe, WWE Monday Night Raw. Well, I mean, go back and if the folks can, depending on what manner that they're listening to us, consuming our show here,
Starting point is 01:54:37 because what we just said for SmackDown, it's old at this point. And I mean, it worked with Sina and Cody. I like the crowd was into it also. But again, this is a two and a half hour show. And by the time that the singing and the chanting and the woeing and the cheering it's a dream crowd, but God damn it makes it a schlog to listen to or watch some of the television programs.
Starting point is 01:55:06 But having said that, they tried a lot harder with Raw. Raw had more oomph to it. Raw had more shit going on. Raw had more mayhem and chaos and build to these big matches than Smackdown did. I think we can say that without fear of contradiction. Yeah. It's just between the commercial. and this is on Netflix between the commercials and the travel logs and the spots and the long entrances
Starting point is 01:55:35 and the backstage people chatting with each other just to fill up time. I got no on screen fast forward and I'm trying when they go to break I'll come back in three minutes they're still in a commercial. I come back in two minutes. They're still in some kind of fucking spot. It's like trying to drill for oil. you don't know where to go when you're going to hit a gusher and actually see something you want to see.
Starting point is 01:56:00 Are you having this problem? Or you just leave it on and multitask, don't you? It's become that, yeah. It's not must watch. There may be a must watch segment, and they've started off the show with Sina. It's interesting that's been starting the show. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:17 But there's a lot of stuff that you kind of pay attention to, but you don't have to stop doing what you're doing on the computer while it's on. And then there's other stuff you really want to see, and you want to see everyone's reactions, and you want to see everything. Again, the fans are singing to everything, so everything just feels like it's at one level. But, uh,
Starting point is 01:56:40 well, this one was, I'll go ahead. No, that's all I have to say. Well, this one was even better because they, they had more words to the song and they did more of it. But again, they were in London for Raw this March 31st. They announced the number on the show,
Starting point is 01:56:56 I think 16,566. If they were full last Friday, there's 33,000 tickets in two nights in the same city. And the arena shot, before they even played any music, before anybody even came out, they're panning this giant packed arena
Starting point is 01:57:18 and the fans are going, let's go, Sina, Sina sucks. Before anything's even happened. And then they play, Sina music and then John Sina sucks. John Sina sucks. And he comes the ring and they bring the music down and the crowd makes various chance and noises. And he raises the microphone like he's about to talk and Cody's music plays. And now we start this process all over again. They're singing his song and the whoa. And he's hugging fans and kissing babies on the way down the aisle. He's dressed in
Starting point is 01:57:57 Al Capone's Halloween suit. I don't, and the music comes down so the whole arena sings the final verse, acapella. Oh, Acpella. You didn't know I could sing Acapella, did you?
Starting point is 01:58:15 And then they sing, period. Oh, come on now. You're just jealous. And then they sing, Cody, Cody Rhodes. And more sweeping crane shots of the Pact arena. We're 10 minutes in this fucking program. People have walked to the ring to be sung to. But then finally, Cody started. And his whole thing was how you, how are you going to make fun of me? How are you going to, you know, blister me here with the, are you my Lisp? And the fans chanted
Starting point is 01:58:47 Stardust and the neck tattoo and the fans chanted Cody, Cody Rhodes. Are you going to say I got booed in the company that I created? And they kind of glossed over that. Let's go Sina. Sina sucks. And Cody demands to know why. Tell the people why. Why? Let me jump in here before you review the rest of it.
Starting point is 01:59:10 What did you think of this, that this is kind of the tact they've taken? This is the road they've gone down. The idea that Cody got his ass kicked by Sina, who turned on him, betrayed him, and beat him up, choked him out in front of the rock. and they've done these promos these last few weeks and now it's tell them why they deserve to
Starting point is 01:59:32 like I don't know I don't know that's the best I'm more mad that he parked on my grass and dug a hole in my yard than what he said to my neighbors what there's a bigger there's a bigger offense here
Starting point is 01:59:52 Cody should be more than whoever told him to wear that suit well that's another thing entirely between the buttons that were rolling stones what the hell was that but that's that's the thing is they they kicked him into balls and he humiliated him but then they still had two months and they can't beat each other up every week and they're excellent promos both of them can talk their ass off but i get what you're saying is that it's and plus they have to just stand there and look at the other guy that, you know, they're kind of mad at or whatever have the issue with for while that they're sung to for so long. It does take some of the urgency away from these exchanges.
Starting point is 02:00:38 I want Cody to be mad that someone kicked his ass. I want Cody to be mad that his hero in his own words, that his friend turned on him. Not you have to tell the people what this is about. Like, that's where, give me a fucking break. You know, just be human. That's why Sina, it was the ultimate heal promo because he told the truth. They got this whole thing,
Starting point is 02:00:59 and Cody stood there and heard it. The other problem is, you know, I'll let you go back to this at a second. You just need someone in between them. The fact that Sina keeps getting right in Cody's face, right in his face. And that's another thing, even when there's an announcer that's
Starting point is 02:01:15 allegedly conducting the interview and gets interrupted, and there's a back and forth, just visually and subliminally. there's somebody there that's still in control. They can't just begin fighting, but they've been conditioned that there's nobody there and they can just begin fighting.
Starting point is 02:01:32 And then it's a letdown when they don't just begin fighting. But Sina goes back because he said, yeah, he cuts the promo. I'm not going to cook you. I'm going to bury you. I don't bury talent. I am talent. I bury mediocrity. And he answered all his critics.
Starting point is 02:01:49 And said, the only is because basically I've been too good. it's not that I buried anybody else or kept anybody else down. Cody's a manipulator, was riding my coattails. And I made this company so great that the WWE can hand the reins to my chauffeur as Cody used to drive him around. You stole all my secrets to be undeniable, but you're underwhelming. You're too perfect, polished, rehearsed.
Starting point is 02:02:14 You got a catchy tune that trick these people into loving mediocrity. but you're a generic mix of every star you've ever loved all in a big confused blob. Man, and I mean, he nailed it, honestly? Yeah. I mean, again, Cody's the baby face, but he said everything that's kind of true about Cody here. Well, and that's the thing, and I was waiting,
Starting point is 02:02:39 and he's not quite done, and I was waiting to see what Cody was going to say and how he was going to say it, but Sina basically ate his lunch there, and we can't do it word for word. it took a while, but I'm the last real champion and I'm taking that belt home for good and exposing you as an errand boy that got lucky.
Starting point is 02:02:57 There's your why, pal. And then Cody, I mean, it was pretty fucking close because he fired back up and he started eating fucking Sina's lunch. And maybe I was chosen, but they chose me. Who chose you? The one guy in an office that's not here anymore and we don't talk about him?
Starting point is 02:03:20 and if anybody's a company creation, it's you, not me, you, you've got more dick in your promo than you do in your jorts. It sounded stern, but I'm not sure if you break it down exactly what it's fucking meant. I don't know. But easy, you create a lot of disgusted fans, disenfranchised fans that made it easy for me to leave and create something. and finally he said between you and me between the two of us in the ring which one sold out to the rock and that got a big pop and then it you sold out and that's the first mention of the rock since the royal rumble in terms of these two guys doing stuff and that was the only one that they made also the announcers will drop it in every now and then but they won't i think they're placating mr mr johnson first name rock with him being mentioned but this is being personal between these guys
Starting point is 02:04:24 because that's what they need for this match. But Cody told him, you're still my hero, but you're also a piece of shit. And the fans chanted, piece of shit, piece of shit. And then Sina fired back up at Cody and said no matter what kind of garbage they gave me, I made it great. Me, that's why you had to leave because I make empires
Starting point is 02:04:49 for billionaires and all you've ever done to steal money from their kids. And that got the because even if the normal audience for the WWE television tapings in this country in Butte, Montana
Starting point is 02:05:07 probably doesn't ooh at any AEW references because it's a wider, more casual audience. But with people in London, they knew what fuck was happening there. And they got it. and then Cody also said, wait a minute, before you go, they've never chanted at me, you can't wrestle.
Starting point is 02:05:30 And that's what gets Sina mad, and he turns around to have the face off and then he's going to turn back. But then he swings, but Cody ducks it, hits him with a crossroads. One crossroads, Sina's laid out, unconscious, dead, potentially with no pulse. And Cody stood over him and picked up the belt and walked. out. And it was 20 minutes long. The content was great. That would have taken maybe about seven or eight. But now they've got another heat angle coming up before mania. They have to because this isn't the way you'd go in. So remember you asked me last week, what do you think they'll do? And I didn't think, I didn't think they needed more than one physical angle between now and then.
Starting point is 02:06:20 or maybe a physical angle and a freshen up. But since this was a physical angle light, one move, but the baby face came out ahead. I have a feeling. Sina's going to do something to beat the fuck out of Cody coming up here before too long. Again, they got a few more weeks to have to do something else physical. And it can't be Cody gets the only physical thing in Toll Mania,
Starting point is 02:06:40 unless that's the justification of a Sina walking out with the belt. You know, I really enjoy the Sina stuff. I do have a problem with him getting right in Cody's face over and over again, but if you watch him while he's doing it, the intensity, it's incredible. And the smile, there's a few points where Cody thought he had him, and then Samoa just shifted to a smile. It was perfect. We've never seen this kind of intense heel promo from him on a big stage.
Starting point is 02:07:10 I've liked it. A lot of fans haven't. I've been surprised in this WrestleMania season, the amount of people we've heard from who think we're being too kind to the John Sina promos. And what do you think? I mean, is it blur? Is it talking too inside? Is he making for a John Sina, he will run?
Starting point is 02:07:35 Is he doing enough? Is it enough? Is the direction of this and the reasoning for the feud with Cody enough? What are your thoughts on the people who don't think this is really a great build? it's probably because they don't like Sina. It's a generational showdown between the previous era and the current era. I know obviously why they would want to have it, but at the same time,
Starting point is 02:08:01 they needed a heel, baby face dynamic of some kind for WrestleMania. And so we were surprised that, you know, they would switch Sina during his retirement year, but now they've done it. I don't think he needs to come out. out and talk to people and be a, be a heel as he's being with the goddamn, finally, I don't need you people anymore. Now I'm, now I'm telling you what I really thought of you.
Starting point is 02:08:30 All this time, because fuck you and here's why. And all the things he said, you took and took and he's crying, he's whining. I'm liking the promos. They don't need to cut each other's heads off with swords. And, I mean, what other match right now would you want Cody to have against any heel? They're not going to put Cody at WrestleMania against another big baby face. They're not going to do that, I don't think, without a heavy personal issue. So who would it be if not Cody and senior?
Starting point is 02:09:09 Well, that's the question. Do you think they've made the issue big enough? Have they made it make sense enough? I mean, Cody came out here this week and said, tell them what this is really all about, which is, you know, over a month after everything originally happened. Yeah, but I think it was going to draw anyway because it's fucking Cody and Sina.
Starting point is 02:09:28 And I think now they're just letting them cut to promos. It's not the hottest angle in the history of wrestling, but having said that, maybe the guys just want to come home. They've been in overseas, selling out arenas everywhere, grossing millions of dollars. Now they're going to come back and have two nights in a fucking stadium. I don't know that they need to do the Dibiasi and Murdoch angle on Mid-South
Starting point is 02:09:56 Wrestling to draw. I think that's, honestly, I think that's what they're doing now, is they're just, they're sitting back. And like I said earlier, they're doing enough in front of this crowd or they're doing enough in front of the fans to get them interested without anybody getting hurt and anybody going crazy. Have they successfully made this make sense? If you're a wrestling fan and you have a friend who's a wrestling fan and they say,
Starting point is 02:10:22 hey, I've missed all the Sina Cody stuff. Explain to me what their problem is. Would you understand it? Now possibly. Beforehand, it was just that, you know, Sina sold out to the Rock and kicked Cody into balls, but we don't really know why because what Rock offered Cody when he turned him down, Seena already has. he's a movie star and a millionaire and all that stuff.
Starting point is 02:10:45 But once we got past that and the Rock quit showing up every once in a while they mention him, but it doesn't really get in the way. Now, you know, I don't mind it too bad. There's the problem. If the whole thing is built around the idea, and this is what it should have been built around probably from the beginning, that Sina resents Cody
Starting point is 02:11:00 for all the reasons he laid out here. I don't know about long-term how much damage it will do when you say a lot of real shit about your top baby face. I don't know, but there's at least something there. If between now and WrestleMania, the Rock and Travis Scott show up again on TV and do something, does it ruin all the progress
Starting point is 02:11:20 of this? Yeah, probably. It depends on, it depends on what it takes away from it one way or another. Whether it helps or hurts, it takes away in terms of attention being taken away from it. I don't want to see Rock and or especially Travis Scott
Starting point is 02:11:35 show up anymore because he gets in the fucking way. When everything makes sense that they're going to a direction that everybody seems happy with. I'm talking about the fans with what, and then he shows up, and then there's fucking controversy. And things start getting put together in different order and fashion. Well, we shall see what happens.
Starting point is 02:12:01 Again, we still have a few more weeks. You know, WrestleMania would kind of be right around now. It would either be this past weekend or this weekend coming up traditionally. And here we are. We have weeks to go. And, yeah, I really hope they get back to the normal scale. schedule. I think the gap between the rumble, then the elimination chamber in WrestleMania, it was way too long. We are living it. It is way too long as we are
Starting point is 02:12:23 living it right now. Well, actually, now, I haven't missed having to watch another four hours of fucking wrestling to talk about it. It's been refreshing, but it is for their purposes a little long in between. That's why they're kind of repeating and they're stretching. Phil, Phil. Anyway, there was another deal before we get to the to the main event of the evening or whatever we're coming up on. Jimmy Uso and Gunther. And this was another one where I was trying to, I was trying to fast forward through commercials and the match was already in
Starting point is 02:12:56 progress when I found it and I didn't want to lose it again because I love Gunther. As I say, him, Drew McIntyre, two of my top five. He's unique today. I don't get tired of watching him and he can make something out of anything. But obviously Gunther is going to defend the title against Jimmy's brother Jay, so they had a match, and then Goethe hit, boom, a drop kick and a power bomb cover, one, two, and pulled him up. And then started taunting Jimmy and hit him with a big boot,
Starting point is 02:13:33 hit him with a clothesline and cover one, one, two, and pulled him up. And I haven't seen this deal done in a long time, and I haven't seen it done properly in even longer than the that but they did it here jimmy was selling and trying to crawl pull himself up with the ropes and gunther grabs him with a sleeper and puts him out and wins the match and puts on the belt with his music playing and then he goes back to jimmy and puts the sleeper on him again and won't let go and then here jay's music plays and jay hits the ring and they have a fucking fight and gunther takes off through the crowd and then Jay goes to check on Jimmy and that was a great deal but when they go to the break when they come back they're showing Jay helping Jimmy out and you know trying to
Starting point is 02:14:28 recover from what happened previously and here comes Gunther again and attacks them from behind and security's trying to stop him and he power bombs one of them on the stairs and then he post J and then gets zip tie, a zip tie from one of the security guys who, one of the announcers dropped. Well, yeah, they're known to carry the zip ties. These fucking security guys didn't look like they were allowed to carry anything but plastic sporks. But he zip ties Jay to the rope and then beats the shit out of Jimmy while taunting Jay.
Starting point is 02:15:08 and hit Jimmy with the title belt and taunted some more, and Jimmy came up bleeding. And then when they got kicked into it, Gunther just beat Jimmy bloody and choked him out right in front of Jay, and Jay couldn't reach, and Gunther was covered in Jimmy's blood. And that part was a great heat angle. But when Gunther got the zip ties out and then started the taunting,
Starting point is 02:15:38 and I don't know whether he was waiting for Jimmy because Jimmy wasn't coming or what, but it took too long in the middle where Jay was zip tied and just trying to reach and pull and Gunther was taunting. And even then when he got a hold of Jimmy, the officials, the referees, the agents were around ringside. And one of them, the security guy,
Starting point is 02:16:01 already got power bombed, but there was people wearing suits and ties around ringside. if they weren't going to be trying in vain frantically to free Jay so that he could help Jimmy, then they should have all fed in and let Gunther chop the fuck out up. Because with them standing around the ring, that part, when there was not a lot going on with the talent, again in the arena and even subliminally to the people on, in the television audience,
Starting point is 02:16:36 the focus of their attention goes from, oh my God, look what he's doing to Jimmy in front of J.E.2. Well, why don't those motherfuckers do something? They're just standing there. It took a little sharp off. It's like the thunderstorms when they don't come through at peak heating. They come through in the middle of the night when it's a cooler and it's taken a little bit of the fuel away.
Starting point is 02:16:56 It takes a little bit of your fuel away in the presentation that you're trying to create without people, frantically trying and failing whether they're jumping up and Gunther's kicking them off and then going back to Jimmy or whether they can't find anything they'll cut through that heavy plastic and they're sawing with something. There has to be an attempt. Do you see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:17:19 This was great, but the pace should have been picked up and the middle tightened up. And because this is the kind of angle that they used to do to get fucking fans in the ring. And they really could have created some jeopardy there. But it was a little bit long and a little bit long. little bit slow. Tell me what you think.
Starting point is 02:17:36 I thought it was a lot of bit long, to be honest with you. Well, and in English next time? Yeah, maybe. It took a while. It was a good angle. It was the best thing with Gunther in a little while. What do you think you're going to do at WrestleMania? Oh, Jay's winning that belt.
Starting point is 02:17:53 You think Jay Usso's winning the world title? Oh, yeah. Well, if not, then he'll be ready to have some sad singing and slow walking, as Troy Graham would say, and let him be laid out and have words. spoken over him. The whole thing, they made Jay look like a clutz. He slipped on a dive a couple weeks ago, so now they're doing the deal where all he's, you know, he's lost his confidence.
Starting point is 02:18:16 Gunther's in his head or however they're phrasing it. And Gunther's beating his brother bloody in front of him. I mean, you know, if he's not winning the belt at WrestleMania, then Jay has been significantly damaged as an attraction to him. me. However, if he does win the belt at WrestleMania, at this point, I don't know that it hurts Gunther. It might be time for Gunther to do something else, but he's kind of established at this point. He always turns in a bravura performance, whereas Jay needs to win the big one because he's a lot of gimmick and a lot of flash and a lot of music and a lot of yeat and not a lot of, let me see 30
Starting point is 02:19:01 minutes of this guy wrestling hard. Does it hurt him if he doesn't win? Oh, definitely. I mean, that's the thing. It doesn't hurt Gunther. I don't think badly. And at this point with him setting records, big deal if he loses, but it
Starting point is 02:19:15 fucking kicks Jay into balls if he loses, if he doesn't win that belt. So that would be my unless they've said, well, maybe, Jay, you want to take a year off? Okay, we'll do this angle just like this. Then Gunther will beat you. Thanks for coming.
Starting point is 02:19:31 That's the only, otherwise he's winning. What do you think of fans who are upset, and I kind of think it's a non-issue, but Jay Uso and Charlotte Flair win the Royal Rumble, some fans think that it's not about getting your title match at WrestleMania, it's by getting the main event at WrestleMania, and obviously the main event for night one or night two is going to be Cody versus Sina, and then the three-way match with Roman Punk and Rollins. Fans, there are some fans who think Jay Uso and Charlotte got jipped out of being in the main event. well as much as i even like charlotte no sorry that wouldn't go to be the goddamn main event to begin
Starting point is 02:20:07 with um and the to me the the tradition has been the main event is at least for the last couple years since they've had it the main event should be for whatever world title you know each night and or last year they did the tag team thing but no you were never Charlotte doesn't have an opponent right now, whether it be Rio Ripley, my other favorite or anybody else that would deserve main eventing over three or four of these matches. And so I can understand being people, I can understand being upset that it's not one world title the other night and the other world title of next night because technically the world title match usually is the main event. But no, when you look at business, which is going to be a bigger attraction?
Starting point is 02:20:59 CM Punk versus Seth Rollins versus Roman Reins or Gunther versus Jay Uso, there's not a contest there. It's got to be the three way. So that is the main event because it is the most anticipated match, the match that will create the most interest, sell the most tickets, or the most views or whatever for that particular night. And you can't argue with that. So then it just becomes, are you mad that, you know, Jay Uso is not a strong enough challenger against Gunther
Starting point is 02:21:32 to be the world champion and fucking main event the show. It's not my fault. Would you want to close the show with a big Yeet celebration? If you're going to do it, if you're going to do it and you're going to have whatever, I don't know what ticket sales are, 45,000 people standing up doing the Yeat, do you give them, do you end the show with that kind of celebration?
Starting point is 02:21:57 I don't think it needs to end the show to get, get a massive, you know, great feeling and a feel good moment and all kinds of highlights and footage out of that. I don't think it has to be on last. And it depends on what they're doing in, because have we, have we figured out nights yet? Because whatever night that the Jay Uso and Gunther match will be on, make them feel good, especially if the main event, what goes on after might not make them feel good. they might not be happy about that.
Starting point is 02:22:31 So it just depends on what else is going on that particular show. All right. Well, speaking of particular shows, you mentioned the main event. Oh, did you see the tag match before you get to the time? Oh, yes, Braun and Pinta and Finn and Dom. And again, you know, they didn't give this very much time. They did the, you know, maybe two minutes to the break deal. I let Braun Breakers come back where he gave Finn and Dom a double vertical
Starting point is 02:22:58 suplex and held them for a second. And then Braun and Penta, I will say, meshed better as a team than what you might have been a feared that they might. And they even did the old Steiner Bulldog off the top rope tag team move. But again, basically
Starting point is 02:23:17 they went kind of an awkward setup at the end of the thing, but Braun was coming with a spear, trying to spear Finn, and Finn moved and he speared Penta instead, and then Finn double stomped Pinta, one, two, three. So like you said, I think last week or on one of the shows, his brother's coming in, Penta,
Starting point is 02:23:41 and maybe that's an excuse to, I need somebody I can depend on, because this was just a, I didn't want a team with Bronbreaker anyway, that type of thing. And it keeps that alive. Braun's not particularly a baby face, but they like him probably as much as anybody here. But was that what you were talking about?
Starting point is 02:24:02 There was that match. There was also AJ Stiles and Logan Paul. Did you see that? Oh, yes. Oh, yes. I was a fan of Logan Paul's when I said, wow, this guy's a natural and holy shit, he's exceeding his time in the business and his experience level.
Starting point is 02:24:20 And boy, he can really talk and be a heel. And then we found out he is just a fucking dick and person. so he's not even really talented. He's just playing himself. He's very Trumpy. But A.J. came out. Does A.J. look lost to you like he's from another time, and he's just landed after a fucking space warp.
Starting point is 02:24:45 And he used to be a big deal, but everything's passed him by. And now they've picked him to have the big high spot match with douchebag Logan Paul because that way they can do a bunch of spots with each other and Logan will be happy and be interested. Did that what it say, was that what it seemed like to you when they exchanged their awkward scripted verbiage and at one point Logan Paul just broke into a tirade on the audience and ignored AJ, just walking past him and insulting each audience member individually.
Starting point is 02:25:20 And then they get in a fight and Logan Paul nuts him. and gives him a big, flippy move that looked great, and AJ was laid out at the end. I think that they're there, they're there to give Logan Paul a nice match where you can do high spots and be happy and talk about it on social media. Prove me wrong. I don't know who's going to prove you're wrong.
Starting point is 02:25:45 AJ doesn't. AJ hasn't done anything interesting in a long time. And then he's been in and out a few times because of injuries. He's older now, too. So much to cut his hair. whatever why does everybody have to have their hair cut i'm proud of him he's that age he still got his hair but no that's what it's not anything against him as a talent it's just that it seems like wow this is so long ago when everybody else is fresher and it's not his fault he hadn't done
Starting point is 02:26:13 anything interesting because they didn't tell him to do anything interesting but he still it's it's like you know he's left over from the previous administration Well, once again, possibly an underwhelming WrestleMania buildup to what will be on WrestleMania, but there was a main event. There was a main event on Raw. There certainly was Ria Ripley versus E.O. Sky for the women's title with Bianca Bel Air as the referee.
Starting point is 02:26:44 And boy, how do you, I tell you, they started Bianca to the ring from the time that we left AJ Styles being laid out through Bianca's entrance and commercial breaks and Ria's entrance at EO, it was over 15 minutes by the time they started this match from the previous deal. And is it okay match? And again, people are going to solve,
Starting point is 02:27:08 fuck Jim Cornett, because he doesn't realize Eoskeye is the best women's wrestler in the world today. I don't care. Because I'm not saying that she should be run out of town and run out of the country never allowed to work and have gainful employment again. I'm saying, I'm not interested.
Starting point is 02:27:26 She's small. She does the, besides the fact that she does the ridiculous karate kung fu movie choreographed stuff that there's Ria's a foot taller and has got to be stooging for it, et cetera. I'm sorry, I see Bianca as a main event women's champion level person. and so I see Ria, just because EO can do a lot of the wrestling moves. She's still small, she can't cut a promo, and I don't see her in the main event or in the women's title deal with these other two. And there was a couple of times where both of them, I thought,
Starting point is 02:28:09 were going to break their fucking necks because they kept trying to do, one was a reverse Hurricane Rana on the floor, and then the other one they were trying to do something off the top rope. and on the floor when EO went and lost Ria's head, and then Rio went and fell on EO. And then on the other one, she almost lost her off the top rope, but Ria brought her back up and they gave her a big wing ding off of that.
Starting point is 02:28:36 And then seconds later, EO was okay, but the point I'm making is they go through a bunch of two counts. They had a fine fucking match. This was better than most of the men's matches on AEW, much less any of the women's, but I just don't care that Eoskei can do a bunch of fucking moves. So finally,
Starting point is 02:28:58 with Bianca as the referee, she gets in a way Ria catches Bianca with a kick that's meant for Eio and then gives Eo the riptide, but there's no referee for the count, and the crowd counted like 12, then Ria's yelling at Bianca,
Starting point is 02:29:17 get back in here. and she gets a cover and gets a two count, and then she's still mad at Bianca, but Ria gets back on EO and won't break, so Bianca pulls Ria off of Eio, and then Ria slaps Bianca, but EO comes off the top rope with a drop kick, but Ria moves and Eio hits Bianca.
Starting point is 02:29:43 And then Bianca calls for a double disqualification, and the crowd booze that, and not necessarily in the right way. but as of this point they're still fighting but we've established that the crowd likes eo and wants to see her succeed because they pull for the underdog the crowd likes ria and likes it when she does shit whether it's to bianca but they don't like it when anybody does anything to eo including they don't like Bianca when she tries doing anything to you.
Starting point is 02:30:18 Have I described this just about right? The fans like Eio, yes. Well, yeah, but they're picking other people, said they like everybody except when certain people do certain things to certain other people. And then they're not happy about that. But Ria and Bianca fought on the floor while Bianca was throwing punches at Ria, but she was looking at the ring because Eio was about to dive in on them.
Starting point is 02:30:46 he dove on them. Each one of them fought the other one and then finally Ria headbutted and riptied bianca and riptided Eo and was going to leave both them laying, but then the fans chanted one more time so Ria went back in and got
Starting point is 02:31:06 Bianca and picked her up on the second rope and gave her a riptide off the second rope. And apparently now, obviously we're going to have a three way, another three way. for WrestleMania with all of these folks involved. Well, we knew it. That was the direction they've been going in.
Starting point is 02:31:25 I guess this is another one we asked. What would it be if they didn't have these extra weeks of buildup for WrestleMania? It feels like nothing, I mean, so far, nothing feels like it's peaking at the right moment. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:31:38 Something feels really hard. It's already got there and it's starting to droop. You're like, two more weeks already? Yeah. Well, that was wrong. But everybody has a reason for what, they're doing and they got a lot of stars on the card, but there's still similarities with one
Starting point is 02:31:54 thing to another that, again, if I was punk and Drew and Scheister, Seth, I wouldn't want women or any other men to have a three-way on the show except for me. You mean Roman, not Drew. Or not Roman. Or not Drew. You know what I'm saying. Yes. See, it's so confusing.
Starting point is 02:32:16 Just prove my point. but if I was yes if I was punk and Santh and Roman having a three way I wouldn't want to have anybody else having a three way on the same fucking show well that was WWE Raw once again in Europe they're coming home
Starting point is 02:32:32 I guess soon but with that we shall return momentarily with more drive-thru all right we have returned time travel to return shortly but Jim let's play some guests to program All righty
Starting point is 02:32:51 If that's okay with you That's perfectly fine with me there fella And of course this is where I go through programs In my collection Some that I've had for a while Some that I've just obtained But I'm getting ready to file them away So I have them here
Starting point is 02:33:06 We go through them Jim guesses The location The date The bell time Oh come on now And everything else But all right Let's get going here
Starting point is 02:33:18 I got an interesting card I was a little surprise looking at the main event here. The opening contest, Big Moose Cholak versus Fred Atkins. Ooh. For a title I will not name, the champion Johnny Case versus Johnny Gilbert.
Starting point is 02:33:42 A ladies tag team match. Shirley Strimple and Corinne Cordero, versus Betty Clark and Babe Bittner I can honestly say I don't know any of those four women Shirley Strimple I have heard of
Starting point is 02:34:02 I've heard of Strimple and not Shirley Temple by the way Shirley Strimple and not George Temple but Dick Steinborn versus the Mighty Atlas a tag match Sweet Daddy Seeky and Seaman Art Thomas
Starting point is 02:34:22 versus the fabulous kangaroos who are listed as World Tag Team Champions. And the main event for the world's heavyweight championship Pat O'Connor versus the Crusher. Oh! Well,
Starting point is 02:34:46 boy howdy. At first I was thinking when I heard Fred Atkins, immediately I was like, what the fuck is Moose Cholak doing in Toronto? Because Moose Cholak, one thinks of the Midwest, Chicago, Indianapolis, but Fred Atkins was a wrestler and later a manager early on in the Northeast and in Toronto. But Johnny Case and Johnny Gilbert bring it back to Chicago.
Starting point is 02:35:19 The girl's tag is immaterial to this. Steinborn and the Mighty Atlas, Mighty Atlas was Morris Shapiro, and he was a big deal in the Midwest and in Chicago. Dick Steinborn, because of the time era that this would be, was, oh, he'd probably been in a business six, seven, eight years at this point, was the son of Milo Steinborn, the famous strongman from the 30s and 40s, who was a promoter for Eddie Graham in Florida for years and years. and Dick Steinbord was also a noted photographer.
Starting point is 02:35:56 Did you know that, Brian? Wrestling photographer. Well, he liked to take pictures, but he did some wrestling photographer. No, I did know that. I believe Scott Teal has those, and it may be because Dick Steinborn ended up owing him money like he owed a lot of people. I believe he was also known as a bit of a locker room.
Starting point is 02:36:13 What's the word I'm looking for? Light-fingered Louis. He didn't mind touching other people's stuff and just leaving the building with it. He would touch their junk. And Sweet Daddy Seeky and Seaman Art Thomas, before he became Sailor Art Thomas, Seaman didn't have as many connotations back in that time period, were a popular African-American tag team about that time in the Chicago area.
Starting point is 02:36:42 And the kangaroos, they were the World Tag Team Champions. They wrestled all over. The World Heavyweight title. with Pat O'Connor and the Crusher, this is what, and you said it's odd to you, that would almost take you away from Chicago because O'Connor was not noted. It wasn't until they had a bunch of NWA title matches there until Rogers won the belt in Chicago. Of course, that's where Rogers beat O'Connor in 1961. So we're in Chicago and it's 1960.
Starting point is 02:37:23 Are you talking to me on mute? I'm on mute and it's 2025. The program The International Amphitheater Hallstead Street, Chicago May 26, 1961. No! See, the O'Connor being champion thing, if you assume that.
Starting point is 02:37:51 Again, you could have assumed it was the Crusher as the champion somewhere else. Well, but no. But you would only have a short window and that was the window. So it was right before, this was, they were giving O'Connor a win over Crusher in Chicago to set up the match with Rogers, is what you're saying to me. I presume so. Let me see, I just put it down, but no, the results are not marked in this one. Not marked. There's a big cut in the cover, though, but all right.
Starting point is 02:38:21 Jim, the next program here. The first match, one fall, 15-minute time limit. Oscar Salazar 210 out of Barcelona, Spain versus Texas Tiger Romo, 204, El Paso, Texas. Okay, immediately, you stop there, I can name this song in two notes. Now, I'm kidding, go ahead.
Starting point is 02:38:46 A special event, tag team match, one fall to a finish. Bob Bomber Hamby, 205 out of Charlotte and Mickey Sharp 206 the blonde bombshell out of Houston versus Alejandro Cruz 200 pounds
Starting point is 02:39:08 the human rocket at a Mexico City and Ray Crosby 209 out of Albuquerque Ray Crosby I didn't know Bing's brother got in a business the first main event two out of three falls or 60 minute time limit
Starting point is 02:39:28 Paul de Gaulle 213 out of Paris France the fancy Frenchman claimant of the international junior heavyweight championship versus Goree Guerrero 210 world light heavyweight champion
Starting point is 02:39:48 so finally somebody I've heard of The second main event 2 out of 3 falls 60 minute time limit The Mummy 211 from somewhere in South America weirdest wrestler in the world
Starting point is 02:40:05 versus Juan Garcia 210 Albuquerque New Mexico popular wrestler And finally Triple main event Winner take all Loser Leaves Town rematch
Starting point is 02:40:19 two out of three falls or a 60 minute time limit Andre Drap 200 pounds Mr. France Paris unsatisfied on last week's decision issued challenge versus the mad Mongol
Starting point is 02:40:39 227 pounds claw hold expert seldom lost rematch That's it huh Boy, howdy. First match, obviously, never heard of. I've heard the name Bob Hamby in that second match. Obviously, Gori Guerrero, the father of Chavo and Hector and Eddie and Mando,
Starting point is 02:41:12 grandfather of Chavo Jr. And Paul de Gaul, the mummy in this interview. incarnation. I'm not sure, but the most famous mummy was Benji Ramirez. And with Andre Drapp, who again, I've heard the name, the Mongol could have been anybody. This has got to be either West Texas or New Mexico, especially with some of the hometowns. Gori Guerrero may very well have had a hand in promoting the fucking thing. But, got, if this was, if this was Ramirez was the mummy, it would have been 1970, 71, 72 that time period. If not, I still maintain that it's West Texas, El Paso, or New Mexico, and with Andre Drap in the main event, it seems like it would be older back in the 60s.
Starting point is 02:42:18 I don't know. 1970 Albuquerque, New Mexico. The date? February 26, 1963. No! The program 15 cents. El Paso Wrestling Program. And this is a special one celebrating our first birthday.
Starting point is 02:42:39 Tonight marks the first anniversary of international wrestling enterprises, bringing to the people of El Paso the wonderful sport of wrestling. Thank you fans for making it possible. That may have even been before Gorey had part of the promotion possibly, but if that's 1963, which, like I said, with Andre Drap, I thought it would, is that Benji Ramirez the mummy,
Starting point is 02:43:05 or is it just a regular old outlaw mummy, or can you tell from the picture? I can't tell, but I'll double check against other things afterwards. Four beautiful girls have been signed to appear here in El Paso next week. The promoter... Boy! And maybe we can talk them into wrestling. The promoter, Dr. Gardia, received a good number of letters of girl wrestlers asking for a
Starting point is 02:43:26 chance to meet the peppery Miss Olga Martinez. Anyway, Dr. Gardia has signed up the following girl wrestlers. Anne Casey, Olga Martinez, Brenda Scott, Judy Grable. We still don't know if the promoter is going to book them in a singles match or tag team match. And there it is. All right, let's get our next. I saw Anne Casey wrestle live in 1975. She had her leopard print, one piece bathing suit on, and the big black hair and a whole nine yards. All right, this one here.
Starting point is 02:44:08 Interesting program. The opening bout. Irish Danny McShane versus Jackie Nichols. Hmm. As it says here, a colored girls tag team match, Lulu Mae Provo and Babs Wingo
Starting point is 02:44:26 versus Marva Scott and Kathleen Wimbley. An Australian tag team match Dr. Jerry Graham and Professor Roy Shire versus Wilbur Snyder and Chief Bigheart. Tarzan Killer Kowalski
Starting point is 02:44:50 versus Zaya Nandor at a Budapest Hungary How do you spell that first one? C-Z-A-Y-A That's right. N-A-N-D-O-R Was he any relation to or was it even the same guy Bob Nandor?
Starting point is 02:45:12 I don't know, I'll see if he's... But he was Hungarian here, though, the Sia Nandor, yes. Carl Von Hess versus Eduardo Carpontier and finally the dream match of the century Antonino Rocca
Starting point is 02:45:30 Uncrowned Champion versus Ricky Star undefeated sensation Greenwich Village, New York Okay um boy how do you when you said Danny McShane and Jackie Nichols,
Starting point is 02:45:51 I was thinking is this out in the Olympic Auditorium, Danny McShane was all over everywhere, Jackie Nichols, I seem to associate with California wrestling. The girls tag, Marva Scott and Babs Wingo were sisters, as has been talked about with the new Queen of the Ring movie, along with Ethel Johnson, and Lulu Mae Provo and Kathleen Wembley
Starting point is 02:46:15 were I think the first two black girls that came along afterwards. And damn, since the last one of the sisters didn't debut until 1954, we've got Jerry Graham and Roy Shire as partners against Wilbur Snyder and Chief Bigheart. Snyder, of course, I don't think debuted until 55. He played pro football for the Edmonton Eskimos. Jerry Graham and Shire would have been a team. or at least able to be a team in the late 50s, Kowowski and Nandor,
Starting point is 02:46:52 Von Hess and Carpontier, Raca and Star, is what, are you trying to fool me with a Madison Square Garden card? Or is this, again, a, is it a Toronto or a Philadelphia? I don't think it's Toronto, even though a lot of these guys were over at that, in that market. it's either
Starting point is 02:47:19 oh god damn it it may not be Madison Square Garden but it's a major city in the northeast and it's I'm just going to pick a year it's 19 before Jerry got Eddie maybe 1958 very close
Starting point is 02:47:37 the date June 10th 1957 official program Griffith Stadium, Washington, D.C., Vince McMahon promoter. Yeah, it didn't look like a garden card, but that was the time period, and it's just, you know, different matchups than what was drawing the big money, except for Raqa and Star. They had a couple of matches in the garden, did they not? I don't know for sure. I'd have to go back and check, but it is interesting.
Starting point is 02:48:08 You know, if you go back to the beginning of the century, there were matches in boxing and wrestling called the Match of the Century. Here's another one, the dream match. Hey, here was one we had here in Louisville. Austin Idol versus Jerry Lawler, grudge match of the year. Guess what the date was? What was the date? January 4th.
Starting point is 02:48:29 The first show of the fucking year. Yeah. But this is the dream match of the century, Rocca versus Star. It's interesting thinking about that being, you know, the big dream match. Well, Rocka and Star, similar in style. if anybody could be similar to either one of those guys. Well, and now the people get the idea they were jumping off the top rope constantly.
Starting point is 02:48:51 They weren't really high flyers as much as the Raca had the acrobatics, the leapfrogs and the drop kicks and the kicking the guy in the face with his foot and the shoulder ride, whereas Ricky Starr legitimately had the ballet background. And he also was apparently a fairly salty shooter, and combined that to do the spitting and the pirouettes and the leaping and the kicks.
Starting point is 02:49:20 And he ended up for a couple of years in this country. He was one of the biggest box office attractions in the business and then went and had a long run in Europe and kind of disappeared from the United States in the 60s. But Raka and Starr, because both of them were so unique and had that mutual odd style, that was kind of the two guys. guys that were in fans' mind, oh, we'd like to see this guy against that guy. So they did it. You've got to send you a picture of this. It's a picture of Dr. Jerry Graham. It says inside
Starting point is 02:49:54 dope. Dr. Jerry Graham, popular Matt Star, gives Morris Siegel, the nation's top TV sports commentator, some inside information on wrestling over the Capitol Arena TV network. Do you know too much about the other Morris Siegel, the one who's not a wrestling promoter? Well, I thought that's the one you were talking about. until you just said that. And I was like, what is Morris Segal doing up there on the Capitol Wrestling TV network? Yeah, I got to look for the... I thought it was Lance Russell on first site.
Starting point is 02:50:25 We'll see what we can find out. That's the Capitol program. Let's get another one here. This one's not a program. This is a postcard with an attached pass that you can cut off. Ah. The two other big bouts that are not listening. here. Let me just say that. Will Weidner
Starting point is 02:50:48 versus Gorilla Ramos. Billy Hanson versus jumping Jack Claiborne. Okay. The Unmasked Golden Terror versus Irish Pat Fraley. And finally, by public demand and edict, the Cougar versus Vincent Lopez.
Starting point is 02:51:19 resume their feud. Okay. Will Whiten? Was he in the first match listed? Will Widener or Weidner, Wiedner, W-E-I-D-N-E-R? Yeah, I got no idea. Gorilla Ramos, there was an Apache Bull Ramos, but this is way before his time because of a name in the next match.
Starting point is 02:51:45 I don't know who Hanson was, but Jack Claiborne was one of the first African-American male stars along with the Black Panther Jim Mitchell and Seeley Samara. He was of that same generation. So this, to me, and again, the unmasked golden terror, who the fuck knows? Pat Fraley, again, a name that I've heard from the 40s
Starting point is 02:52:16 and the Cougar, no idea, but Vincent Lopez, was not only the top baby face, the top draw in Los Angeles and a lot of Southern California in the 1940s, he had one version of the world title out there. And I think he was probably the top guy right before the television era when Gorgeous George came in and that took over Hollywood wrestling. Would I be crazy to say that this is some kind of suburb? of the Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles in the Southern California area
Starting point is 02:52:53 sometime around the mid-1940s, 1946, let's say. You know, I mean, it was such a hard one to figure out. You came so close. That was actually excellent. It's at the Olympic. Okay.
Starting point is 02:53:11 The Olympic Auditorium, Wednesday... It just didn't seem like a big enough card. Wednesday, April 11th, 1945. The day before FDR died. Oh, wow, yeah. And this pass here, which is, again, a postcard that has a preforated part that you could just rip off. This card entitles you to a 50% discount on ringside and lower floor reserve seats. Present this card at the box office Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday,
Starting point is 02:53:43 and exchange for your ringside and reserve seats. No phone orders, please. save and see a great wrestling show void after 8 p.m. on day of show and then it has here reserve 50% $1, federal tax 40 cents, state tax 10 cents total a dollar 50
Starting point is 02:54:07 or reserve 50% federal tax 20 cents, state tax 5 cents 75 cents but there it is the Olympic Auditorium, April. And that was 1945. And I have, again, I mentioned Jim Mitchell's, I have his date book. And I've talked about this before that John Cosper found when they, he found the guy that had bought Jim Mitchell's house. And it was about a year or two later. I'm trying to think, I can't reach it, 46 or 47, but Jim Mitchell came in and had a main event at the Olympic
Starting point is 02:54:48 with Gorgeous George and it caused a riot. And that was a famous match in Los Angeles history at that point in time. And his records indicate that he got paid $140 for that main event against Gorgeous George. Now, with those prices that you just quoted, if the Olympic Auditorium drew 5,000 people, that was probably what a $5,000 or $6,000 house because tickets were around a dollar apiece. Gorgeous George would have made $500 because he always got 10% at least, right? Been on what the after tax was.
Starting point is 02:55:30 But point being, when you figure for inflation, because I was doing this for another project, $1946, a dollar today, it's almost 20 times. Somewhere around, I think, 17, 18, 18, dollars or whatever so jim mitchell would have got yeah he got like a $2,500 payoff but gorgeous George got almost 10 grand in today's money in those days for a main event at the Olympic auditorium what are your thoughts on the idea of sending out a weekly postcard to your regular customers or i guess not your regular i mean your regulars probably don't need a discount
Starting point is 02:56:08 to come in they'll be well see that's the thing it was world war two it wasn't over you yet. A lot of the guys were in service. Look at this fucking card. The unmasked golden terror, the cougar. There's two people on the card that even we have ever heard of. Well, Vincent Lopez was a big star. Yes, Lopez and Claiborne. But that's the thing, is that Southern California wrestling and a lot of wrestling, anything that didn't involve while Bill Longson during World War II was down. For some, that's where he vaulted ahead of everybody and he was old enough they didn't draft him and he was drawing mega money in Toronto and St. Louis and Houston and all these different places but in a lot of other locations wrestling was down it wasn't
Starting point is 02:56:57 set in the world on fire in southern California and there was no wrestling in Madison Square Garden so they were sending out passes trying to revitalize what was going on out there And then by the time TV came in and Gorgeous George, then the Olympic was the place to be and they didn't need to give discounts. But these things come and go. All right. This next one, we'll see how in your wheelhouse it is. The big thing is for you to guess the year, I guess.
Starting point is 02:57:29 The opening bout. I'm off on a years today for whatever reason. The opening bout, Les Thornton versus Nick Kininski. Knesski, excuse me. Sivy Afi, or as it says here, Siva Afi versus Jake Roberts. Billy Jack Haynes versus Hercules Hernandez. Adorable Adrian Adonis versus Tony Mr. USA Atlas. Corporal Kirshner versus Paul Mr. Wonderful Orndorf.
Starting point is 02:58:10 the Iron Sheik and Nikolai Volkov versus Mike Rotundo and Dan Spivey a tag title match one fall one hour time limit Dynamite Kid and Davy Boy Smith the champions
Starting point is 02:58:28 versus J.J. Funk and Hafunk the challengers for another championship which I won't name Randy Macho Man Sass The champion versus Pedro Morales. Oh my God.
Starting point is 02:58:48 And finally the main event won fall one hour time limit. King Kong Bundy and Big John Studd versus the super machine and the giant machine. And a giant was Andre was super? Was that Mulligan or was that Eaddy? I think it was Bill Eadie. Boy, how do you wait, one, two, three. three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine matches.
Starting point is 02:59:16 Or if you want to do it this way, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, nine, ten, eleven, eleven, fifteen, fifteen, seventeen, sixteen, sixteen, eighteen, nineteen, nineteen, fifteen, nineteen, twenty, twenty, twenty, twenty, twenty, twenty, twenty, twenty, twenty. Twenty-four stars on the card. Did you notice, every time you do an old show, Brian, from the 40s or 50s, or maybe sixties, there's like three matches, four matches, five matches, and today there's like nine matches, ten matches, eleven matches. The formula for paying the boys.
Starting point is 02:59:43 never changed. You're just cutting instead of six slices of the pie, you've got 24. That's what happened to money in wrestling as they had to make the cards bigger. They just didn't increase the fucking percentage of the payoff. But nevertheless,
Starting point is 03:00:01 this is obviously the WWF. Nick Kinnisky was the son of Gene Kineski and brother of Kelly Kineski. He broke in around the time we were in Dallas. We worked with him some and world class
Starting point is 03:00:15 uh jacob everybody knows who all these people are uh can't even really give me a trivia except Jimmy jack and a haws funk were Jesse Barr and Dory Funk Jr because Vince didn't like the name Dory I guess and when Terry left to care for his sick horse the first time they brought Jimmy Jack in as the other brother
Starting point is 03:00:38 can imagine that conversation listen I hate junior okay we don't do you use Jr no I hate Dory too but Haas is okay the Savage match was the Intercontinental title because that's when Pedro was champion, right? No, it's on Savage was champion. Was Savage champion then? All right. But nevertheless, the point is, this is the WWF,
Starting point is 03:01:03 it doesn't seem like it's the garden. I don't remember the machines made of inning the garden, but anything could have happened, but the year would have to be for all these people to be there and in those positions, wouldn't it have to be 1986 or late 85? The day...
Starting point is 03:01:27 Oh, go ahead. I'm saying, I'm just... Philadelphia. Man. What? The day, Monday, August 25th, 1986, Madison Square Garden.
Starting point is 03:01:40 New York, New York. You talked yourself out of it. I talked myself out of it. Because I, that, all right. Well, nevertheless. A lot of matches, though. I mean, that's the thing.
Starting point is 03:01:52 You don't see, I mean, nowadays it's TV tapings along promos, obviously, a different animal altogether. But look at how many matches are on this show. And it was televised. And they were probably all still five minutes long.
Starting point is 03:02:04 All right. Final program here today. This is going to be a tough one. Uh-oh. Event number one. K.O. Ken Yates versus Danny Little Bear. The second event
Starting point is 03:02:22 Evil Eye Valentine versus Chief Crazy Horse. Good Lord. They will then be an intermission. The third event, Tito Carion versus Pancho Rosario. Gypsy,
Starting point is 03:02:43 uh, Rosario also worked at one point in time as either Gypsy Rosario, and I think he may have even tried to be Gypsy Joe. And that's Bruno Sam Nartino, isn't it? That's right. He was Bruno San Martino. Then there's Baby Blimp versus Dick Steinborn. Okay, baby blimp is George Harris, George Two-Ton Harris, George Bunk Harris.
Starting point is 03:03:13 he wrestled as the baby blimp because he was childhood friends with Roy Welch and Buddy Fuller and well with Buddy Fuller and Roy Welch was already an adult but he was friends with the Fuller and Welch family and he broke in as a wrestler and he looked like a littler version
Starting point is 03:03:32 of Martin the Blimp Levy he was like 600 pounds so he worked as the baby blimp and then became a manager George Two Ton Harris but all the boys called him bunk because of his stories he used to tell. And he ended up being one of the maintenance guys
Starting point is 03:03:50 along with Clondack Bill for Crockett promotions. And briefly, before he finally retired, I think 1990, he worked for TBS. So he went all the way from outlaws with the fucking Fuller family in the 40s to working for Turner Broadcasting. And who do you wrestle, baby Blimp? Baby Blimp versus Dick Steinborn. Steinborn. He's back again.
Starting point is 03:04:11 Okay. Ray Gunkel versus Wildman Weeba. Okay, Ray Gunkel obviously was the husband of Ann Gunkel, and Ray Gunkel was an NCAA champion wrestler that became the top baby face in Georgia and owned part of the promotion. And when he had the heart attack and died, and they tried to split the company, and that's what led to the Georgia Wrestling War.
Starting point is 03:04:40 Jim Weba Scandor Ackbar Oh Jimmy Weba Wildman Weba Wildman Weba The Butcher versus Greg Peterson There's not a picture here
Starting point is 03:04:57 So I can't help you with If it's Paul Vashon or someone else Another intermission And then finally Tag team match Main event of the evening Two different sets of titles
Starting point is 03:05:12 I don't know if it's a giveaway or not. Ah, what the fuck? What the fuck? European champions versus southern champions. Both titles are at stake. The Infernos,
Starting point is 03:05:27 managed by J.C. Dykes, the European champions, versus Enrique and Alberto, the Torres brothers. Torres brothers. The southern champions. Okay. Well, you said this would be hard.
Starting point is 03:05:46 Actually, this one's easier than that other fucking fiasco. He gave me Danny Little Bear. He was just on the card at that point, but Danny Little Bear was big in the central states. This is not there. Kansas City area for a long time. And he did a lot of work in Tennessee in the 70s. He also went to, he lived in Western Kentucky for a while and went to jail for some type of improprieties. I think carrying things around he wasn't supposed to have.
Starting point is 03:06:15 Tito Carion was an old-timer, as was Pancho Rosario, the baby Blimp and Steinborn we talked about, Ray Gunkel and Weba we talked about. Greg Peterson was a baby face in a variety of the southern territories, especially over in Mobile, Alabama and southern Alabama. The butcher, I think was Paul Vashon rather than Abdullah the butcher, because we are in Georgia. and it is the late 1960s, I believe, possibly early 70s.
Starting point is 03:06:48 I haven't narrowed that down yet. The infernos were Frankie Kane, and I believe his partner at that time would have been Rocky Smith. J.C. Dykes was their longtime manager. He was from down around Chattanooga, Tennessee and managed all over the south for a long time. The Infernoes, Frankie Kane had the loaded boot, and they also threw four. fire and the Torres brothers which two of the three were these this was Alberto and Enrique? That is correct.
Starting point is 03:07:19 And there was there were three Torres brothers but again they were two of the biggest baby faces in the Georgia territory in the late 60s and early 70s as Hispanic talent but they just they caught on. And Enrique had been a major star on the West Coast, you know, over 10 years earlier. Well, you expect that because California has a Hispanic population, but in those days in Atlanta, that was like, wow. So it is Atlanta, and I bet you it's the city auditorium, and the only thing I'm looking for is the year,
Starting point is 03:07:54 and I'm going to just pluck something out of the fucking air and say 1968. Oh, man. Again, you give me that. Atlanta's wrestling program, the Ringsider, on the cover, Atlanta's favorite son, Ray Gunkel. 25 cents Friday July 8th
Starting point is 03:08:13 1966 Ah well there you go God damn I'm good on the places I'm fucking up on the dates this time Programmed subject to change We reserve the right to change the order of events The promoter is not responsible
Starting point is 03:08:29 If contestant failed to appear in the ring Due to conditions beyond our control Such as injuries, illness, accidents, etc. When possible substitute matches when possible there's no comma when possible substitute matches will be made the law forbids throwing objects into the ring do you like to have someone throw things at you we're sure you don't that's why we ask you not to throw anything into the ring or at the wrestlers throwing objects at a wrestler also is a violation of the city ordinance and anyone caught is subject to arrest fine and imprisonment no that used to be in a ton of programs because people, we talked about this the other day on one of the shows, people would bean the heels with anything they could get a hold of or get their hands on. That's why they quit selling glass bottles in arenas,
Starting point is 03:09:21 but anything that was in a woman's purse or a guy's pocket or what they could pick up or wad up, it was, you know, there's an issue. On the back cover, we also have an ad. There's lots of ads for local motel. There's at the Atlanta Sports Arena, there's dancing and all. the varsity advertising back then with the rest. I don't see that. Refrigeration mechanic
Starting point is 03:09:45 by Atlantic fixture and sales company. The varsity is the largest fast food place in the state of Georgia. Maybe it's a giant thing, a huge parking lot, drive-in, burgers, dogs, that type of thing. We have a nice photo here of Fred Blassie. It says, Fred Blassie says,
Starting point is 03:10:03 by all means, come and see me at all me. I screwed it up. By all means, come see me at Al means for, you can't say this. Fred Blassie says, by all means, come see me at Al means Ford City. 1665 Scott Boulevard, Decatur, Georgia. Get the Blassie deal on a new 66 Ford car or truck or good used car. No other dealer can beat my deal.
Starting point is 03:10:38 They wouldn't dare. And he was working there. He was a salesman there. Blassie had had kidney issues and had a kidney removed and retired from wrestling for what, was it a year, year and a half, maybe that period of time who was living in Georgia and taking advantage of his celebrity. Because he had been a huge draw there as a baby face and a heel. Well, that was this week's edition of Guest the Program.
Starting point is 03:11:07 and you know what? We promised questions. Questions next week. We had a lot to go over and there's a lot going on behind the scenes and we in fact have phone calls to quickly jump on soon. Yes, and also I have fun guessing the program
Starting point is 03:11:21 even if I fuck it up. But Jim, if people feel they were ripped off and the show wasn't long enough today, they may want to sue. Well, if they want to sue, I'll tell you what, they can go ahead and try because we can do anything we want.
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Starting point is 03:12:46 had the highest death rate in the country and their regional jails from two thousand nine to 2019, 50% higher than the national average. And these are people in most cases that haven't been convicted of anything. They've been arrested in their awaiting trial, whether they're guilty or innocent has not even been determined, but they can't afford bail. So they get stuck in these jails and they end up dead. And as a result, Stephen P. New and his law office have been trying to, to bring some accountability, and he's very proud of that that so far, in addition to pissing
Starting point is 03:13:27 the ex-governor off at him, he's been awarded over $12 million in these judgments and more are to come. But you don't have to go to jail to retain Stephen P. New. It helps, but you don't have to. Just call 87750 Steve or go to new law office.com and find out what he's all about and what he's up to. I don't know if I would say it helps, but once again, new law office.com.
Starting point is 03:13:55 Well, it can't hurt. 87750, Steve. Try to stay out of jail. Why don't we start with that? But Jim, why don't we get a few songs and get it out of here, of course? If you have a song you'd like to submit an original song, a parody song,
Starting point is 03:14:09 nothing with AI. Corny Drive-Thru at gmail.com, about the show, something we talk about on the show, not just, hey, I wrote a song about wrestling, let me send it in. Let's just go now. Yeah, well, you're awful surly today. Take you, take your, tell your story walking.
Starting point is 03:14:26 Just take your business on away from here. This one was sent to Corny Drive-Thru at gmail.com by Stefan of Auburn, Maine. Here we go. This one is about Mercedes Monet, apparently. Let's go to this. A third word. With all the lead, they love to bring a joshi girl. Kenny's thing
Starting point is 03:15:04 Waves goodbye give this next gala try that morning Went to work utilized like Reho undersized that's a morning Bells will ring it don't mean a thing modern wrestling why Brian can tell ya Well wait Mercedes Mone Jimmy Sidney trailer Oh, Bacabella Superstall thinks she's cool An imposter that bull that's a moaning
Starting point is 03:15:46 Take a chance now, Tony With this clown bring monie Plenty house Like a bar in a church Her promo's lurching, it's boring. Jim scoffing to off and ship her up to Boston. That's a morning. All right, you know, I mean, he's trying hard.
Starting point is 03:16:21 He means well. I'm now curious what his other songs are. Hold on. Here's another one he sent. See what this is. Hold on. Let me see. That wasn't me now.
Starting point is 03:16:28 That was me apparently in the past. He has other songs here. He attached to the end of the songs. So why don't we, we'll just make it this one song for today, because otherwise it's going to go for another three minutes. Jim, any thoughts on that, Samone? Yeah, yeah, yes. It was, it was very different and humble and lovable.
Starting point is 03:16:53 All right. Thank you, Stefan of Auburny, Maine. Once again, Courtney Drive-Thru at gmail.com. Leor, please, wherever you are, check in. but this one was sent to Corny Drawthrough at gmail.combe from Donnie D.Giacomo Let's go to this.
Starting point is 03:17:12 Oh, come on. Di Giacomo. This has to be A.I. This isn't real. What do you think? Is this A. I don't have any idea. Maybe they're just, they're angry in the garage.
Starting point is 03:17:43 All right. It seems to be repeating itself. Yeah. Once again, please send in your submissions to corny drive-thru at gmail.com. Thank you, Donnie, for that submission. Let's go to this one. This one is about Tony Kahn and his tweeting. This is person of a name.
Starting point is 03:18:10 I am the one that contacted you on Twitter about song submissions. I hope you enjoy this. The song is called... I have no name. The song is called Stop and Put Down Your Phone. please credit as Your Beliefs and Jay Coogs
Starting point is 03:18:27 All right Let's see How this goes So your Belinda and Jay Coogs He's doing cum jokes On Twitter With random fans Bebe
Starting point is 03:18:54 Funny enough This song was actually sent in by AW's producers and agents Now's the time for me to go out there And whip out my cock What clip that's from? Where did it do? that come from? Well, thank you, uh, your beliefs and, uh, Jake Hoogs for sending that.
Starting point is 03:21:50 If that was not AI, then she's got a set of pipes on her there. I think that was a real female singer. Well, a real female? Listen to this show. I think that was a real girl. I think that was a real girl. Well, boy, howdy. She, she can sing. She can belt it out there. It's so stupid, but I always think of the song multi. I don't know if you know that song by the barbarians, about the drummer who lost his hand and they wrote a song about it. And the rumor is that it's the band playing on the track. It was when they were still doing stuff like studio work. And they played on the track.
Starting point is 03:22:24 And at one point, at the very end, after talking about losing his hand and everything, he's like, now I just need a girl, a real girl. But real girl gets me every time. But those were the songs. And this is the drive-through. Hold on. Where is? There we go.
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