Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 394: Jim Reviews AEW Double Or Nothing

Episode Date: May 31, 2025

This week on the Drive Thru, Jim reviews AEW Double Or Nothing and WWE's Saturday Night's Main Event! Plus Jim talks about Dave Meltzer's battle with AI, WWE running against AEW, Ric Flair's new liquo...r products and much more! Thanks to our episode sponsors: CORNBREAD HEMP:  Save 30% on your first order and free shipping on orders over $75! Just head to cornbreadhemp.com/jce and use code JCE at checkout. SHOPIFY:  Sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at shopify.com/jce MD HEARING:  Shop MDHearing.com and use promo code JCE and get a pair for hearing aids for just $297 Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: CornyDriveThru@gmail.com  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Merch! https://arcadianvanguard.com/ Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:18 again, friends! And you are our friends, and this is my show, and it's packed today. Welcome to another edition of Jim Cornett's Drive-Thru, filled with reviews, and who knows what else, here today. I'm your host, The Great Brian Last, and here he is. We almost made it. The leader of the Cult of Cornett, Mr. Jim Cornett. Yes, here I am, and there you are, and you are you, and I am we,
Starting point is 00:00:46 and we are all together here today for this program, which you've still just blown my mind, because you've, right as we are about to go on the air, as they say, right as we are about to record this for posterity or posterior or whatever goddamn receptacle list goes in, you say, okay, countdown for Jim, I'm like, wait, what, this is your show? Why is it countdown for me? and then you realized that you'd had a brain fart over there. And then you, and it's, it's just, it's just,
Starting point is 00:01:20 it's thinking actually. Yes, exactly. But you know what? Wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first, as Mama Cornett used to say. Did she really say that? Yes, she, she would say poop. But, uh, the meaning was the same. Why don't you do a book of just all of her sayings with our, Because I just think of them when the occasion calls for it, because some occasion comes up in front of me,
Starting point is 00:01:48 and it instantly triggers that in my mind, but otherwise I can't remember it. I just can't remember all of them just on the sperm of the moment, like recite them like a goddamn IBM computer. What do you think I am? Kind of like a human computer. What I was going to say is, what would Mama Corvette make of the recent weather in Louisville?
Starting point is 00:02:12 Oh, she would be all up in arms over this. Not because as a matter of fact, it's raining today since you asked. It had rained a little bit over the weekend. It's going to rain some more than a couple of days. And she always watched the severe weather, but she would be remarking constantly about the constant rain. We are like almost a foot or 10 inches, whatever heavy, depending on the part of even this area of,
Starting point is 00:02:42 Kentucky. A little south of us, I think, is two or three inches heavier than we are for the year. They're like a foot ahead for the year so far. And I'll remind people that next week, a year ago, I planted 15 trees to front yard. It didn't rain a drop for three and a half weeks. I was out there in that 90 degree weather with that fucking hose every morning. And so, yeah, she would be cursing the rain at this point. It's good for the trees and the flowers and the birds and the bees and the I did that backwards. The birds and the flowers and the trees. And the sky's up above.
Starting point is 00:03:19 It's made everything just greener than goose shit around here. It used to be a phrase in the wrestling business, but now all the people that would use it about all these people that are in it are dead. So that's one good byproduct we've got going for us, but otherwise, the weather has been somewhat dreary, a little dreary. So it's your show there, Maestro.
Starting point is 00:03:47 You set me up with such positivity. Let's get in the mood for fun, wrestling talk, and so much more. Well, yeah, this program that we're about to do here today, we are going to compare and contrast, juxtapose, if you will, the major offerings of the last few days of the two major conglomerates involved in the profession of wrestling. The WW and AEW, the Saturday night's main event and the double or nothing,
Starting point is 00:04:24 it's like a tale of two cities, Brian, which, as opposed to breast augmentation surgery, which is a sale of two titties, but we're not comparing those things. We're talking about, I dare you, Travis. No, I dare you, Travis don't. No, have... Don't you dares if it's going to get you in trouble. Why would you do that? Have me at the fruit market, buying some prize-winning melons.
Starting point is 00:04:52 It's not fun if you just tell them what to do. People like to try to figure out what the hell he drew. Well, I thought I'd make it easy for the sick and shut-ins that are listening to us here on the program. One day we need to do something just to show some of the artwork that almost got on. It's like, well? They're not quite. Just almost. but not quite.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Just the tip. Just a tip. But anyway, what I was saying, we're going to compare these two things, these two products. One that you maybe you wanted just to see a little bit more, and the other that you were jumping out the window to avoid seeing ever again, kind of that kind of thing. but nevertheless, that's what we're going to do here today on the program, right?
Starting point is 00:05:45 Listen, if you're willing to jump out the window, just sign with AEW. I'll give you something to jump off or jump through, and that's really what you want to do. I don't know if I trust those catchers, though, because they look a little emaciated. Well, at least they have enough time to get situated. They're there for a while. They get there. They're planted and ready. What does it look like to the people not watching the television feed, but just in the arena?
Starting point is 00:06:09 When suddenly they see a group of like a dozen guys in black shirts clumped up together and just running from one place to another and then soon after someone falls on them. See, my favorite thing is because they have time and they're standing there, they have to do something. So a lot of them, the move is just pick up your arms and just move them around while you're mouthing like, no! No! Hey! Oh, stop! No! Oh! Just move your arms like back and forth. You know what, if one of the enterprising video editors out there in the cult could send us a compel or put it out on Twitter or whatever of all of the security waving at the end. Wave your arms in the air party like you just don't care. Because they don't care.
Starting point is 00:06:55 And then someone crashes down and misses all their arms and lands right on someone's head. He landed on his head and then he kicks someone else and everyone goes down and. I wish it, you know, they ought to be bowlers, pro bowlers, the divers, because they get knocked those pins down. And if anyone's interested in trying this out, just join a wrestling school. You'll get called up to the main roster to be a security guard before you know it. Barely have to be there. How many retrospectives are we going to have in 20 years of here is my first day in wrestling.
Starting point is 00:07:32 It is a fucking miscellaneous catching guy. Really, when you think about it, how many people who are stars for either company have we seen footage of them like 10 years ago, 15 years ago, where they were just a security guard? I'd escorting someone. There's a clip of MJF. When he first started, Samoa Joe pushes him as a security guard. Yes, I remember, yeah, I remember seeing that. And obviously you don't notice at the time because they're not people that you would notice in that role.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Maybe that's why now all of the fucking... All the people backstage, like the building employees and random fans and security guards, they get beat up, they all try to launch themselves into the wall like they've been flung by an elephant's trunk and take some preposterous bump because that's the path to start them. And to be fair, I think Rosie O'Donnell did it for MJF. That was what catapulted him into the public eye. But you bring up the guy jumping into the thing. We've seen that a lot.
Starting point is 00:08:32 We've seen that with professionals where they're thrown into like a, a wall and they just jump five feet in front of it right into it. We saw it the other day with the Hurt Syndicate, and again, I'm going to guess those were wrestling students or indie wrestlers who haven't done anything. If you weren't it? Lashley barely touched even the guy fucking flew 10 feet into the wall before Bobby had chance to throw him anywhere.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Plus he got called for traveling. The guy was running too. The guy ran and jumped into the wall. But my point was, if you are a young, wrestler, an indie wrestler, a wrestling student, and you get called to do something there, what do you do? Like, you don't want to be just, do you want to just be in the background? Is it doing your job just to kind of not be noticed at all, or do you want to do something
Starting point is 00:09:18 to... Well, no, it's hard to not notice somebody if they're getting powerbombed through a fucking table, right? No, if you're there as fodder for a star to lay waste to you in some kind of fashion, then you need to take that bump well to the feeling that the people need to get that have watched that is, holy shit, look how Hart Lashley Powerbomb that guy. Not, oh, look at that guy. He was waving his arms in the air or he had the wacky waving arm inflatable tube man or he did something to comedically call attention to himself.
Starting point is 00:09:57 he took the bump well and hopefully safely and the attention's on Lashley. So there is, that's a major part to play, but you can, you can detract from the situation if you do the comedy bullshit or go too far with it or try to reenact, you know, your favorite bump from the Indies or whatever. It's just, if they want you to get power bomb through the table,
Starting point is 00:10:26 then give power bomb through the fucking table and sell it like, you know, you just got power bomb through a fucking table. But if you could do like an extra jump and bounce and flip yourself over the rope on a good day, should you try it there? It didn't know, because then here, one of two things.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Then you've just taken the attention. It's great to take a good bump for the fucking Cody Cutter or whatever the fucking finish is these days. It's great to take a good bump for it, but when you bounce up and you do the Sean Michaels over the top rope with a chair around your neck and on the way down, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:10 you fucking hopscotch three times on one foot, then you've taken the attention, and you're a nobody, you've taken the attention away from the bump. It didn't make the bump look good. It's trying to make you look good. and then you distracted or detracted or whatever the fucking phrase I used a minute ago was.
Starting point is 00:11:31 So just take a big bub for the fucking stunner or whatever. Hey, when you look back on that Sean Michael's Hulk Hogan match and feud, because that's what you're referring to. I mean, that's the best example of him just going over the top to sell Hogan stuff in such a ridiculous manner. Yeah. That he's, it's impressive that he's doing it, but it helped nobody. and he did a Larry King segment dressed as Hogan,
Starting point is 00:11:56 pretending to be Hogan, really made fun of him when you look back now. Was Michael's the baby face all along? Well, I didn't say everybody was in universal disagreement, you know, with the thought behind the actions. But no, because it was just, again, more childishness on television, involving backstage stuff that now is usually restricted to the AEW crowd
Starting point is 00:12:30 because the childish minds have gravitated in that direction. But no, it was unprofessional because of the import of the show and the overall meaning behind what Michaels was doing was just to shit on Hogan amuse himself. He was so good he could almost get by. with it, but that doesn't take away the fucking overall intent, right? If this was a courtroom, would there still be some intent that we could convict him of? And remember, I believe the story was Michaels, who, again, the Brett Hart thing was in the air. I mean, there's always a trust issue with some guys and Sean Michaels.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And you could say the same thing about Hogan. There's always trust issues with Hogan. Michaels, I want to say the suggestion was he would say. somehow win the first. And then something would happen in the second. Either one of them will win, and then Hogan will win in the end. And Hogan returned with, I'll win the first, the second and the third. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:34 And then they had, you know, the one match where Sean Michael's made Hogan look like a fool. Let's see again, you know, they knew they were going to have two out of three or three or two or whatever. They knew they were going to have the one match. And the shoe was on the other foot. This time, I'm not going to do a job for that guy, was on the other fucking. guy's foot that was about to drop the fucking leg. And so, you know, Michael's reacted differently when the,
Starting point is 00:14:01 when the shoe or the boot was on the other ass. Well, speaking of the other ass, the other ass that works for Jim will be at Cornets Collectibles. Ah, mailing stuff. I don't know how to transition here. I'm trying to come up with something. Well, no. Hockus feather bottom.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Hachka's feather bottom. bottom could classify as that other ass. He would appreciate being thought of. Everybody needs to mention Hodgkins every once in a while. And I will have you know, Brian, and all of you Cornuts Collectibles customers out there over the last month where we had the May sale, that everything that has been ordered through May the 28th has been signed and has been handed off to the feather bottoms for processing with the labels, shipping labels and the like this weekend. And so the first week of June, as we promised everything, all up to date,
Starting point is 00:15:00 will be winging its way to the fine customers out there. And that means you can order now with impunity, whatever that you would like at Jimcornet.com, whether it be the DVDs, the books, the miscellaneous items that are still left from the May sale, the action figures, the autographed photos, the I've got some used underwear on there but that dog that's it I'm sorry that's my only fans that's a different account but check anyway just in case Jim cornet.com at the fine collectibles page that's that's what we're doing over then and I got to plug the again the WHS
Starting point is 00:15:42 crusade for children for those of you in the metro Louisville area or anywhere that would like to donate via the internet is June 7th and 8th is the telethon and the this year's 70 my god I've lost it now I think second possibly crusade so June 7th and 8th what's you doing Brian right now well yeah right now I mean what do you got your hands underneath the table or what's going on there yeah I got really turned on by that Randy Atcher talk that's what makes me hey come on now hey Randy in his day, the singing cowboy had sex appeal back in that era. You'd be amazed at number of women that would write the station, asked for the autographed black and white eight by 10 gloss.
Starting point is 00:16:30 I would be amazed. You're right. I would be absolutely amazed. Well, this is your show. No, it's not. But you keep thinking that. It cannot, I can't take on any more responsibility. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:43 I've got a family, damn it. We have a lot to get to, obviously, you have Saturday nights, main event. We have AEW double or nothing. We have some you know various little things coming out of there comments from Tony Kahn. Why don't we start real quick with an off topic thing if we can call it that?
Starting point is 00:17:02 Apparently Dave Meltzer and I only say apparently because everyone sent this to us. Yeah. It was on Twitter yet people start sending it to us on other platforms on Facebook. Here, have you seen this? Yeah, I'm on Twitter. I saw it. They were sharing the various screen
Starting point is 00:17:19 shots of the different methods that the kids communicate with each other on is what they were doing of this exchange that Uncle Dave had. Apparently Dave got into a fight with AI. That's the headline that everyone's talking about. Twitter or X have their own in-house AI called GROC. Every now and then you may see someone say, you know, at GROC is this true? And their internal AI responds to your question, which you would hope would be right. but I haven't really used grok
Starting point is 00:17:49 so I couldn't tell you just on the name alone I thought at first when I saw it pop up on my screen I never did know what it was until this came up because I thought that was their version of spam that's grok we don't want that around here
Starting point is 00:18:03 it just filtered shit out well apparently Jim someone was talking about Raw's debut on Netflix and the number it pulled and they got into somehow a debate with Dave Meltzer and the person or someone
Starting point is 00:18:18 said, hey, Grock is this true? And we have part of Grock's answer here. It's clipped. The decline in ratings on Netflix in 2025 likely stems from multiple factors. Viewership dropped 35% in the U.S. with the May 12th episode at 2.7 million global views, down from 4.9 million at debut.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Dull storylines like weak heel Cina arcs. Dot, dot, dot, dot. So the AI is now saying what they think the problem is. Right, right. To which Dave quote tweeted, debut was 5.9 million, not 4.9 million.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Also, 5.9 was a legit. 2.7 million would only be legit if virtually nobody watched live and we know that's not the case. To which the story became, why is he arguing with AI? And is he winning? If he writes that,
Starting point is 00:19:17 does that mean that then that Grock updates its information with this information? Does he have to believe it? Because Dave's a real person, but Grock is artificially intelligent. Dave is arguing with a goddamn machine that just generates comments based on all of the other people who have added their two fucking cents worth in or got their shit in on the internet before that. Are they not?
Starting point is 00:19:48 Is he not? Is it not? What are they? He, it. There. Well, again. Who is that there? Well, again, we've seen a lot of Dave fighting with people on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:19:58 just retweeting their things to, in a very condescending manner, kind of insult people by just hitting them with things, sometimes not even what they're talking about. In this case, he did it with Grock. Now he's actually arguing with the internet himself, not somebody on the internet. But is this kind of like the Russian. champion playing the computer and chess? Wait a minute, which side's which?
Starting point is 00:20:24 I don't know. I don't know. Because it's Grock, you know, so it's not like it's, you know, the people at IBM. Grock didn't know what they ran into until they met Bobby Fisher. You know, again, even if Dave is right, because I guess what Dave could be arguing, 5.9 was a legit number. Grock is saying 4.9. Was Grock pulling the number from their press release or something?
Starting point is 00:20:53 Where would Grock get that number? I don't know. Does it matter that he is trying to create a machine, or create, he is trying Dave, he, too many pronouns, pal. Dave is trying to correct a machine generated response rather than a person that can say, oh, all right, I'm sorry I got the numbers wrong. I read this on fucking Happy Doodles wrestling report.
Starting point is 00:21:23 He's trying to change the mind of Grock. Yeah, I don't know if Grock responded. Grock may have taken their beating. Can Grop? Well, Grock can respond because he was responded to the question he was at. Do you have to ask it a question? Otherwise, is he he can be seen but not heard type of child, but if you ask it, it will pipe out with its thoughts and opinions,
Starting point is 00:21:50 or can it just go back and forth with you, Lai? And here's another thing, Jim, Grock said. Can he just start adding shit and say and really tell you off? I think Grock responds, and then if you want Grock to reappear, you just say, at Grock, help, or is this true? And I assume... Is there a GROC version of a spouse? A GROC version of a spouse?
Starting point is 00:22:14 What the hell you're talking about? We'll just respond whenever you ask it something and otherwise leave you the fuck alone? I don't know. Actually, I don't know. Why don't you go to your Twitter machine and ask Grock a question? Well, I'm thinking how, you know, like Google, how do GROC a spouse? How to grow up?
Starting point is 00:22:33 Or will I get some kind of agency coming down on you? What? See, if that's in your Google history, if they find a random, spouse groked somewhere. They may blame you. Once again, ladies and gentlemen, Codecademy slash JCE. I'm not exactly sure where we've gone,
Starting point is 00:22:56 but Dave Meltzer versus the machine. Yes. We will stay on top of this story and see what develops from here. Obviously, there are other companies with their own AI. Maybe Dave will form a close relationship with one of them.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Jim, let's move on to the reviews because we got to. W.W. Saturday night's main event, the first one we've seen in a little while, and they had a big show live on NBC. A really big shoe. I thought Ed Sullivan was on CBS.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Now, oh, this was on NBC. It's the first one. It's been like three months. It hasn't been 40 years now. They've come back, but they were in Tampa. sun was shining, the birds were saying, the weather was wonderful. Hogan couldn't be there, the sun was getting married. Yeah, they're right down the road from Hoganville, but Hogan didn't make an appearance again.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Well, how many children does he have now that he's admitting to? You know, multiple weddings could occur. It's May, but they're in Tampa and they're really, they're leaning into the wall, walk-ins. Boy, they love the, everybody walked in. We had a camera on everybody that walked into the fucking locker room. And old Joe Tessitori with the voiceover like he was prefacing the Super Bowl. Did you get the feeling that the Goodyear blimp should have been fucking
Starting point is 00:24:33 crossing back and forth in the sky across the building? It was very grandiose and verbose, et cetera. But they're making it a big event, right? And then I like the open that they do where they do the retro VCR 80s footage. Of course, that's a 70s TV that they're using there. I mean, there was snazzier TVs in the 80s, but the retro VCR 80s open that they do with the old stars. And they go into the modern footage. The modern footage looks better, but the 80s had more stars.
Starting point is 00:25:15 I think. But in the modern footage, to be honest, there's a nice shot of a guy wearing a cornet-faced t-shirt, which now that I've said that, it probably won't make the fucking cut to next time around. Oh, I didn't see that in the open of the show in the VHS part of the was. I didn't see that. Yeah, they go to the modern footage,
Starting point is 00:25:33 goes to a crowd shot and boom, and there is the fellow exhilarating himself with his arms up in the air, not down anywhere down, his arms were up in the air. where everybody could see his hands. But he was exhilarating himself. Hey, real quick on that topic,
Starting point is 00:25:50 thank you to everyone who's a member of the cult of Cornett, who has gone to these events over the last few days, including Saturday Night's main event, and sent in pictures of themselves at the event in a Jim Cornett shirt. We've had a few of them on the Cult of Cornett Facebook group, but it's very cool to see. Yes, and I've been wondering where all my shirts went.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Several people are on Facebook wearing my shirts, and I want them back. I'm getting cold here. It's fucking chilly. Dropped them off the dry cleaner. Next thing I know, they're gone. Anyway, so let's talk about Joe Tessitori and who,
Starting point is 00:26:33 now he has, his background is, he has admitted to being a wrestling fan in the past. I don't know how far back that goes, but he was a regular sports announcer type fellow, correct? Came from ESPN or one of the... Still is, I believe. Is he working on the side now?
Starting point is 00:26:54 In the real sports, along with the WWE? I wouldn't think he'd have time. Oh, I don't know if WWE's his only gig. I think he still does real sports. Real sports. I hate to say professional wrestling. But now that there is such a fucking divide now. But anyway, I'm wondering, does he understand
Starting point is 00:27:14 he's got to be standing there and he's got to be standing there next to Jesse Ventura going my God they have paired me to try to get a broadcast out of the Crip Keeper why is does he understand Jesse's cultural significance or is he
Starting point is 00:27:29 I'm wondering is he coming into this going what the fuck if he's a wrestling fan he should well but I'm not I don't know he's been a wrestling fan since the fucking was he an old days wrestling fan or has he come along in the modern times? He seems to be an older fellow.
Starting point is 00:27:50 See, Jesse Ventura needs someone to play off. That's the best way to use him. That's the way Vince McMahon worked with him. That's the way Gorilla Mansoon worked with him. And some of these guys may not really know how to play off him. And it was an interesting journey for Jesse Ventura. Well, to be fair, what way is there to play off of this? Ha ha, we should get grandpa's meds.
Starting point is 00:28:12 early next year or next time. Oh, how do you, it's, I don't, is, is, are people writing some of these little comedic lines that Jesse tries to drop in and he's just not delivering them right? Because I can't imagine this would be in the last, in the final script as the, as they say in showbiz. He's meandering off into fucking tangents and I knew, I knew Brian, I, knew Brian, I I can feel it in my bones. As soon as he did the intro, the stand-up where he said,
Starting point is 00:28:48 talking about the cage match, they're going to stay inside there. Somebody's going to win inside the cage. I said, he doesn't know what they're going to fucking do, does he? And he worked there. But is it like he can remember the cage matches in Portland in the 70s, but he can't remember 1987 in the garden? Well, we could just talk about this here, even though it took place later when he was on commentary.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Well, let's just flip. I'm going to flip ahead in my notes to that. He made a few comments about how, you know, NBC would never allow a cage match. He was doing commentary for the cage matches. Orndorf and Hogan was one of the more famous things from that era. They used that on a bunch of commercial tapes. Hogan and Bossman. And then Hogan and Bossman in 89 when,
Starting point is 00:29:42 I was a kid, that's all people talked about. He superplexed him off the top of the cage. Even when you say it, it sounds ridiculous. Like, no way. And that's what he did. He fucking did it. Yeah, hey, if you think only the kids were talking about it, fucking I, because it was Bubba, I watched it,
Starting point is 00:29:57 and he called me the next day. He said, did you see the superplex? I took off the top of the cage. That bump made him like fucking $25,000 or whatever the fuck it was. And Ventura was there. I mean, that was a really memorable Saturday night's main event. Zeus was in front of the cage to confront Hogan before the match. So since we are into talking about this,
Starting point is 00:30:25 to keep the not to be broken up with the subject matter, so Jesse had prefaced that, and then of course they pitched to Cole and McAfee, who do the broadcast at Ringsside, and you got Joe and you got Jesse at the point. podium up there. But then apparently the deal is they put
Starting point is 00:30:47 Jesse on color in one match per show. And so they showed video by the way of Jesse in 1986 and the WWF working with Plowboy Frazier. Did you see that? Uncle Elmer. Remember the match? It was the hillbillies against Jesse Ventura
Starting point is 00:31:03 who had already been a commentator. It was one of his last matches, if not the last match, and Piper and Orton. And bless Plowboy's heart that he still makes network television in the 2020s. If somebody had told him that in the
Starting point is 00:31:19 eight, actually he was egotistical enough he would have believed it. But anyway, so crazy to think of Jesse Ventura versus Plowboy Frazier on National TV. Oh, and my God, and what should the penalty have been for booking that? But
Starting point is 00:31:34 when Ventura at ringside joins Cole and McAfee, the first thing, he wouldn't stop talking over the ring announcer. What's her name? Can't remember her name. But nevertheless, she's trying to lay out the rules of the cage for the people, Brian, for the people.
Starting point is 00:31:56 But Jesse was nattering back and forth at Cole and McAfee. And so he wasn't listening. So here's another thing. They're having the cage match with Damien Priest and Drew McIntyre, where he at the start, he obvious, but why did the producer, whoever is producifying these things in the truck, not in the first break or when they got off camera with Jesse,
Starting point is 00:32:23 not say to Jesse, remember they could escape the cage or whatever, who knows? So now he's glossed over the fucking instructions again. Plus it's bad television because he could, she was on the PA system. She was talking to the people. Why would the commentator not stop fucking talking? Help me.
Starting point is 00:32:48 To be fair, McAfee chirps up a lot when other people are on the mic or talking or other things are happening. That's happened a bit lately. With Jesse Ventura... Well, no, this was again. Entire stream of conversation. Do you remember what he was arguing about? I don't even know if arguing is the word. He said from the Uncle Elmer clip,
Starting point is 00:33:04 I was the only announcer to ever be an announcer and wrestle and then announce. Yes. And then McAfee's... like, well, you know, McAfee did it. And then he turns to Cole not knowing anything about Michael Cole's history. And he's, and Michael Cole's like, well, I did too. And Jesse goes, who did you wrestle? And Cole should have said the answer.
Starting point is 00:33:20 He didn't, because the answer would have been Jerry Lawler. Yeah. And he didn't say it because Ventura would have flipped if he had heard that. That was a WrestleMania match, Michael Cole versus Jerry Lawler. But it started off. You could tell that there was an issue meshing, and the issue is not Cole. and McAfee who, you know, I'm not a big fan of them necessarily, but they have good chemistry together. Jesse was on another, Jesse was, no one was on the same plane as Jesse, seemingly.
Starting point is 00:33:55 No one was on the same plane because I think the plane has run out of gas. Was there no one in the headset? Like saying, Jesse, Jesse. Again, that's, you would, it's hard to think that there's not, because of the professionalism normally associated with his broadcast unless is that part of the deal that you can't fucking tell Jesse what to say or whatever or you got to give him this
Starting point is 00:34:21 in writing six hours beforehand. I don't know. But again, so there the cage match starts by, they have a jump start at the door where Drew jumps him and they fight on the floor and then, of course, they got to throw a couple of chairs into the cage,
Starting point is 00:34:44 and then the door gets closed. And they have a back and forth fight. Okay, here we're going. And they go to break in two minutes. And, you know, this is going to be a theme throughout this show. But here's the first comparison with the two products. there were a couple matches on this show I would have liked to have seen a little bit more of
Starting point is 00:35:14 not necessarily for them to be longer just not to have a fucking four and a half minute commercial break in the middle to where you at least saw what the fuck and on the other promotions offering I was willing to fucking turn to crime and mug senior citizens to goddamn get some of these matches to fucking stop so there's a wide
Starting point is 00:35:40 there's a wide gap in between the two there that somebody could certainly fill that hole but when they came back you know to the after the break you know they're kind of already going into their fucking you know they're finished priest made a comeback and priest
Starting point is 00:36:04 again was climbing to the top he was obviously trying to escape. And here's where... And I don't know why Jesse wasn't picking up on this yet. But also, what the fuck? The baby face is trying to get away from the heel. This doesn't... No, you don't want to see priests try to fucking get out.
Starting point is 00:36:32 And Bruno got away with it because he was soundly thrashed fucking... the heel, the villain, and then walked out the door, triumphant when the guy was fucking laying there, because that was the rules of that time. But now that there's a pin involved, that that's part of the fucking deal, and especially if you haven't convincingly beat the fuck out of the guy first. I'll get to that a minute.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Drew Superplexed priest off the top of the cage, which basically the way they did it that way is because priest was the one that wanted to take the superplex and Drew was the one I said okay I'll give it but who's the I wrote who's the baby face and then you know they had
Starting point is 00:37:21 the big one too and some false finishes and Drew beat the shit out of priest with a chair and then priest came back with a chair and then priest went for the concerto and hit it on Drew McIntyre. And it looked fake as it always does
Starting point is 00:37:45 whenever anybody hits anybody with that fucking thing. But priest has got, okay, Drew McIntyre is this fucking asshole. It's been tormenting young priest. And he's got him there, and he caves his head in with a chair. and he can't turn him over and cover him with a fucking hand on his chest or a finger in his fucking nose or whatever.
Starting point is 00:38:14 One, two, three. He stands up and walks out the door. And, well, he stands up and he walks to the door. And as he's going through the open door, he thinks about it. The fans in the building are booing. Like, no, where's the fuck you're going? Beat the fucking guy. and he thinks about it
Starting point is 00:38:35 and then he steps down and wins and Brian before we before we talk about Jesse Ventura's reaction to that I've got to get your thoughts on the match and the finish you almost felt like it was a double turn executed really poorly
Starting point is 00:38:53 because priests certainly seem like a heel and I had nothing but sympathy for McIntyre at the end was it a double? Was it a double? turn? I don't think it was supposed to be. Him walking out of the cage, just that alone, the way he did it.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I don't know. He deprived the fans. The announcers were like trying to sell it as well, he has gotten his revenge by soundly thrashing yonder varlet or whatever. But
Starting point is 00:39:27 there was hardly any of the match on fucking television, and what we saw that made priest look not weak, just stupid, confusing, prickish, possibly cowardly a little earlier, then at the end just, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:39:49 Blah. I think this whole feud has kind of been blah, and they've had like big matches and seems like several blow-off matches, potentially. It had been a part of several multi-man matches, but... Drew McIntyre is a star. Why would you do...
Starting point is 00:40:04 Isn't it better to have fucking Drew McIntyre get outsmarted in some kind of way and fucking dives into the cage and fucking bounces off. It gets pinned in a flash by Damien Priest than have him laid out, have his fucking head came in and walked off on like a goddamn yesterday's Twinkie rapper
Starting point is 00:40:27 and the fucking street of life? Wouldn't it be? I don't, how, What amos? Should McIntyre be a baby face right now? Just based on the way everyone's currently aligned on the roster? No, because I like him so much more is what he's been doing, just not this. Why, again, why give him fucking alleged brain damage and just leave him laying to save him from getting pinned?
Starting point is 00:41:00 What? And I feel like it's two years straight. of saying this or maybe a little less, I don't know. How many times can you say they've got to do something different with priests now? They've got to do something different. I still don't care. At this point, put him in a different color, just anything different. And what's he going to do now?
Starting point is 00:41:19 Maybe as a heel, he can get fired up. I kind of think we're exhausted at him as a baby face who doesn't really do anything. Well, I think that this wasn't meant to turn him heel, but it might have, so maybe they can figure out a way to further that. But, you know, much like many of the archdiocese around the country, we need a new priest. But anyway, back to the finish of the cage match, Jesse Ventura watched Damian Priest walk out at Boom and the bell ring,
Starting point is 00:41:57 and it was like aliens from another world had landed. What the fuck? if he could have said, fuck, how do you win, this is a quote, I wrote it down, how do you win it
Starting point is 00:42:08 going out the door? What kind of, this is another quote, what kind of BS is that? You can walk out the door? And they're doing it like this for 40 fucking years. I can't take it. And he wouldn't get off it.
Starting point is 00:42:29 And you know at that point, unless he's just turned, there's a thing where you can, they're trying to talk to you in your headset from the truck, but you can turn their volume down and he had to have because he was going on and on. And then he started rolling his eyes, boy, that was exciting, wasn't it? That's a quote.
Starting point is 00:42:51 That is a quote, boy, that was exciting, wasn't it? Why did he have his limo driver pull up and pick him up at the door? And they couldn't stop him. They couldn't talk over him. Oh my God. Yeah, that was the greatest shit I've ever heard. He just shit all over it. It was,
Starting point is 00:43:14 I've heard wrestling promoters do promos on TV about the opposition running against him in a town that was more professional and fucking favorable. Then that fit. Jesse didn't like that fucking finish. What? You, you set on the first couple Saturday nights made of it. Oh, but Jesse makes it. He's the era.
Starting point is 00:43:36 You know, the name. It's the fan. Do we need to maybe ask Jesse to watch it home next time? I don't know. It did seem like he aged like 10 years between the last. It's been a man in this one. He was dehydrated. Somebody needs to put a garden hose up his ass and fill him up with another 60 pounds of water.
Starting point is 00:44:02 He got there. He was a part of the opening thing with Joe Testator or whatever. his name is. I think that is his name. Joe Tessitori. Yes. Yes. Tesitori. And then later on, so there's a gap right there. Where was he a catering? Where was he? Later on
Starting point is 00:44:19 he comes out for commentary where he seemingly has no idea the rules of a cage match including the ones he called. I believe Hogan. Hogan used to try to make a dramatic and go over the top. Bruno always left through the door and just lifted his arms up. Andre left through
Starting point is 00:44:35 the door. I mean, we've seen a lot of these matches, Jesse called some of them. He had no idea. No one clued him in. And then Jesse just decided, I mean, it's so over the top. I mean, it would almost make you think they were okay with it. But during that entire match, no one gave him a heads up like on what's going on
Starting point is 00:44:55 or anything. It's questionable just the way it happened. But it was great. I can't explain it, but I guarantee you when in the truck they were hearing what kind of BS is that you can walk out the door. Boy, that was exciting one. And the fact that the other announcers are trying to go somewhere else, somebody was saying,
Starting point is 00:45:17 lay out, Jesse, lay out, Jesse. They should have them do more commentary. The voice of the fans, he tells it like it is. This is BS. It would be great to be asked for a refund. You should get the fans back their money. It's nay on the e funder. Listen, Jesse, you succeeded in running Hogan away, but now we got to let you go.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Anyway, but the problem, okay, here was my summation of this in the notes. There wasn't 10 minutes of the match on the air. It was a rotten finish. It switched priest heel, and they beat Drew McIntyre. Well, holy shit. But that was in the middle of the show. We just, we wanted to lead with that because of Jesse's absolute astonishment and gobsmackery that they would allow such thing to happen in one of their matches on the program that he's been,
Starting point is 00:46:21 a company he's been associated with on and off for 45 fucking years. They should have had him on every match on this show. Oh, good Lord. All right, but what they opened with, Brian, I'll have you know. good sir. They opened hot. They wanted to catch people right off the bat. Here comes Seth,
Starting point is 00:46:44 Franklin Rollins, and his henchman now, Bronbreaker and Paul E. Danger Heyman. And they look fucking great together. They look just, just fabulous,
Starting point is 00:46:59 just swell. And this is the new top heel statement. This is going to be the new bloodline without being a bloodline. But it's a new top heel stable, which we're fortunate to live in these times, Brian. And then they bring Sammy out because he's,
Starting point is 00:47:19 he's very popular. And then, and they start chanting right away. C.M. Punk. C.M. Punk. And then, come on Salini. And Tampa Bay. He was very close to that. The bay is very close to where they are. The building is very close to where they are.
Starting point is 00:47:38 The building is very close to the water. And a baby face has hit the ring and jump started, and they get in a four-way. And I mentioned this earlier, but especially if you're just popping in on the YouTube, folks. They've had a little flurry, and they stop Sammy and Braun clotheslines him over the desk, and they go to the break. and like what a minute to fucking half or whatever. And by the time they come back, they've gotten the heat on Sammy, but Sammy hits a hot tag and it's a hot tag.
Starting point is 00:48:16 I'm not just saying that sarcastically. He set it up and boom, he hit it, they got a big pop. And punk makes a comeback and goes through some false finishes. But Seth fucking caught him with a pedigree and sideline him and Sammy saved and it was Sammy and Braun, and he hit a dive, and there was another break.
Starting point is 00:48:40 I'm going to what, they just came fucking back. And by the time they come back, they're ready to go. I'm like, God damn it. This is like when the reception used to be bad late at night, Brian, when I was trying to get Bruisers TV from Channel 4 in Bloomington, Indiana, and I hadn't put my big antenna up yet, and I was still dealing with the rabbit ears, and it would waver in and out
Starting point is 00:49:09 when Baron von Rasky had the claw on Bob Ellis. But finally, then they hit some simultaneous cold tags, which I wasn't as thrilled about. And Sammy made the big comeback on Braun and went for the kick, and Paul grabbed his leg. Managers are interfering again.
Starting point is 00:49:31 It warms the potential pimple, on my taint to see stuff like that. And so as the referee and Sammy are with Paul, Bronson Reed appears at ringside and spears CM Punk through the barricade. And then Sammy was aghast and alone and Bronbreaker speared Sammy, boom, one, two, three. And I enjoyed what I saw of this.
Starting point is 00:50:02 And I actually, I could have, I could have, I could have seen maybe three or four more minutes of it if they would have been so kind as to give it to me. But, boom, they did that. And then Reed came in and Seth hugged him. It got a big pop because now people can see this modern, you know, new faction forming. And Bronson Reed shook hands with Braun Breaker.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Of course, this assess opening line always for, now and every week has to be this is my friend brawn and my other friend bron and they all raised their hands and punk went after paul he was going to pull him down by the leg and the heels grabbed punk and held him out and bronson reed splash oh bronzen reed no bronson no they don't want to kill punk for fuck sake he's still he's still got time on his contract they let bronson reed do it if they want to get rid of somebody, they'll let Hayman fall on. But it was, it's okay. Like I said, I'd like seeing a little bit more of it.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Because that was kind of the thing I was interested in of the night. But your thoughts? You know, I never really thought about it. They really should use Heyman's girth and have him, I do a splash. Even if he can't get off the ground, just standing and just kind of fall. No, no, no, no. No, the injury rate would be, hey, he, he's, he's, He could find some way to fucking be dangerous when he weighed 196 pounds.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Unintentionally, but still. I thought the match was all right. I liked the Bronson Reed. Surprise, because it was a surprise to me. I forgot about him. Not in a bad way, but he had been gone for a while. He's been injured. I wasn't thinking like, oh, he's due to return.
Starting point is 00:52:00 So that's the kind of surprise that I like when I don't anticipate it at all. And, of course, there's the history with him and Rollins. He's the one who took out Rollins when Rollins was off for a while, injured for a while. Yes, and that's why they had, they teased the little stare down there for a second and then had the big hug to show everybody they're all on the same page and it's a shocking formation of this group and everything. And there's Paulie again smiling. The jowls are flapping into breeze.
Starting point is 00:52:29 He's happy about this whole thing. So I like the group and I know it's a network TV special. I know it's basically to promote their regular programs, but they could have easily eliminated having to go to Zelina and Chelsea Green and given that six minutes plus entrances to another one of these matches. Well, probably two, because I think the main event might have got four minutes on the air, but we'll get there. Anyhow, allow me to turn a page to the aforementioned.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Is punk injured? Is they going to do a, I mean, when I say injured, not for real, but is punk going to be off for a while? Well, I don't know. I haven't checked in with him. He usually emails me his schedule for the month so I can, you know, know how to book his limos. How do I know what they're going to do?
Starting point is 00:53:29 Well, they brought Bronson Reed back and he gave him the big splash. The last time we saw him do that, he took Seth Rollins out of commission. Well, no, I think they built it up as being a dangerous move that could hurt. It took Braun Stromen out of the company. Well, no, part of that was, you know, self-inflicted by Braun from being too highly paid, I think. Too brown from Braun? No, didn't they, he splashed Seth about three or four times.
Starting point is 00:53:58 He just gave Punk the one here. So I think he'll be okay by next week, won't he? in about a week per splash. Unless he has like a film roll or something. Well, in that case, then they ought to go and see him show up to shoot the movie with his ribs taped up. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:54:19 But back to the exciting Zelina Vega versus Chelsea Green match you were going to go to. Yes, it only lasted about six minutes. And did you see, now I guess they say it's broken, or at least they said that on the Twitter, but, at the finish, Zelina tries a 619 on Chelsea
Starting point is 00:54:39 and she got completely hung up in the ropes to where her feet didn't go anywhere near Chelsea's face so as she's hanging there in the ropes she just reached her right foot out and boom just kicked fucking Chelsea right in a
Starting point is 00:54:55 goddamn nose, right in a fucking face boom and Chelsea grabs it and goes backwards and in a second she's bleeding she got a debit of bloody nose and apparently they've diagnosed it on Twitter
Starting point is 00:55:11 she did at least as being broken but it was so funny because she's already there's no way that anybody's going to buy this that she's already missed this thing and gotten hung up obviously and then she just said well there she is
Starting point is 00:55:26 bam it just kicked her right in a fucking face and then Geyer a sunset flip power bomb off the turnbuckle one, two, three. So that did her wonders too, I'm sure. I wonder if she could break her nose and give her brain damage in the same match.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Did I miss anything about that, Brian? No, I don't think so. Tell me that Jimmy Hart at ringside did not look exactly the same as Jimmy Hart on a clip from Saturday Night's main event in 1986. I mean, for the most part. There was no difference.
Starting point is 00:56:03 He's aged incredibly well. is that the same Jimmy Hart who was last seat on the show getting booed with Paul Morgan? Yes. He had to have some of the heat washed off him. So he got to be there with Butch Wachker Luke.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Bush, Jesus Christ, Bushwacker Luke at ringside or butch, which was it, Butch or was it Luke? Jesus Christ. It was Luke. Butch is dead. It was Luke. You all that, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:56:34 but when I said butchwacker, as to the bushwhacker, that threw me off, god damn deal. Oh, man, you know what I loved in Memphis, uh, real quick aside here?
Starting point is 00:56:42 When they had the thing where Jimmy Hart, with Bobby and Coco, had a little mini feud with the sheep herders of Boyd and Williams. And they're like, they're in the, like they're cutting promos on each other, like face to face in a sense. Jimmy Hart's in the ring and Jonathan Boyes on the mic by Lance.
Starting point is 00:56:58 It was great. It was heel versus heel, but I loved it. Well, Jonathan Boyd was so, cranky. He was believable that he would be mad at anybody. He old baby face or anybody else.
Starting point is 00:57:11 And Jimmy, again, people could like him as long as he was saying something that he would normally say about people that they didn't like, but then he could turn it around. But nevertheless, they were at ringside. And so was Vikingo.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Old Vikingo has made the big jump over there to the big time. And it was 9 o'clock now after those, seriously, after the tag team match, which we barely got 10 minutes of on the air, and Chelsea and Zelina, it was a 9 o'clock hour. And it was time for John Cena's entrance. And John Cena sucks, John Cena sucks. and the match with our truth.
Starting point is 00:58:03 And Brian, I will defend for a second, why that I'm not offended by them having this match, booking this match, et cetera, in theory and principle. Because they want to be able to advertise John Cena on network television special in primetime for ratings and also to promote what they've got going on with his retirement tour and the whole nine yards. But at the same time,
Starting point is 00:58:41 they don't want him going out there and wrestling a goddamn strenuous pay-per-view main event fucking match against a top guy and give that away for free or burn him out or it out or somebody gets hurt. So, there is some level of connection from the fantasy universe that our truth lives in somewhere there within the more overall broad
Starting point is 00:59:12 WW universe and seen it where they can have the match and it's an easy short match where John doesn't get hurt he beats a popular guy you don't waste a money match but I think boy having said that even that underperformed the in-ring expectations. Because, I mean,
Starting point is 00:59:34 Sita can't throw a punch anymore. And the slow, deliberate heat was both slow and deliberate. And then when Art Truth would foil an attitude adjustment and give him
Starting point is 00:59:51 the shoulder tackles like Cina does and the spinning suplex, he, our truth picked him up and sput him around and was holding him almost till he was about two feet off the mat and John still had his fucking arm down like block this giant fall
Starting point is 01:00:07 I believe Aunt Lola could have taken that bump and but the people that were there were buying this. Our truth went for the you can't see me and got a huge pop and he hit it and then he hit the attitude adjustment
Starting point is 01:00:26 and he hit the, he got the STF and seen it had to get to get to the ropes. And then it was time for them to walk, to walk, time for them to go home, which after they pretty much walked, as I said walked through this thing, the match, I mean, again, the people
Starting point is 01:00:47 live liked it. It was let's go Sina, Sina sucks, and you can't wrestle, yes, you can. But boy, they should have just gone ahead and rolled some bubble wrap out on the canvas. So finally, Sina posted Our Truth and got the title belt and the referee was just
Starting point is 01:01:09 staring at him. He wasn't even going over giving him many bullshit. Like, don't you dare use that. He was just staring from the corner like, and Art Truth then saw Sina coming at him with the belt and Sina froze and they had
Starting point is 01:01:25 like a stare down. And it was like Sina was she, fish like oh i don't want to hit you after all and sina gave the belt back to the referee who turned to hand it out and sita kicked our truth into balls and hit him hit him with the attitude adjustment one two three and i'm thinking you could have done that without bearing the referee just kick him into fucking balls i don't and then he knocked him out with the fucking belt and left, the end. Eh, is that all there is?
Starting point is 01:02:08 You don't want the Sina comeback or the match? Well, all of it. I mean, it makes sense to do something with our truth, in a sense, to finish it off if this is Sina's last year. You know, I forgot how soft Sina was working the last several years as a regular performer. It really stands out. Always has great facial expressions. Yes. It's just you're looking at what he's doing, and you're like, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:34 that's kind of how I wrestle with my kids. Like, you know, no one's going to get hurt now. And to be quite honest with you, with the amount of money he has at his aid, I don't blame him. I wouldn't do things I used to do either. But I'm starting to count down those dates. I'm getting a little fed up with a lot of the,
Starting point is 01:02:56 the booking has just been off this whole year for me as a fan. I know a lot of other people are just as happy as they've ever been. And there are things that on the horizon could be great, the Heyman group, whatever it is. The H-H-D-H-H-G group, wasn't that what it was? That's right. The corporate owners of ECW at one point. Jacob Fatu. I mean, there are things I like and things I want to see how they're going to play out and big events I'm sure will be great, but by and large this year for me, and it's all really centered around the scene of booking. And it's not just all the rock. The rock thing threw it off in the wrong direction, but
Starting point is 01:03:33 but Cina's had strong performances as a heel, that the more and more you see them, the more they feel like performances. Because we've had a lot of them that go on way too long. And there's just nothing really exciting. I mean, we'll talk about what happens later on, later on, but him interacted with Cody again, okay, there's something, but it feels like there's something lacking from the Cina stuff and from just everything show wide for me right now.
Starting point is 01:04:07 It's just a little... Does it feel off to you the whole scene of run? Or at least since WrestleMania, I mean, just what do you think? Well, not necessarily off, just uninspiring. Uninspired, maybe. Uninspired. And that's the thing as we're, you know, we're illustrating here. You got one show where there's a few things.
Starting point is 01:04:32 you might like to have seen a little bit more of, but it's mostly like, eh. And then as we'll get to, the other show, it's like, oh, my God, please make it stop over and over hours and hours. We've seen everything. My God, you've desecrated the corpse. If there could just be something in that happy little sweet spot,
Starting point is 01:04:55 you think, right in the middle. Anyway, speaking of a sweet spot, Lelani Kai was at ringside. Nice to see her. and Barry Windham and Mike Ratunda, both of them were looking very retunda. I'm the only guy in a wrestling business. They got out of the business at a lost weight.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Now I'd, amongst all of my contemporaries, I would be one of the fucking people that would tipple the scale at the least amount these days. It was nice to see Layloni Kai. I don't think they've ever really had her at one of these things, but she seemed delighted to be there. or as happy as could be.
Starting point is 01:05:35 She's a happy person. I was glad to see it. Yeah, it's always nice when you see someone who's not one of the usual suspects and they actually seem like they appreciate being there. And Windham and Rotunda, it's just nice to see they're still here. Well, and it all said, it was close
Starting point is 01:05:48 because they're right down the road. Are they? Does Barry Windham? I don't want to get into where he lives now. Yeah, I'm not allowed under court order to reveal that at any rate. So then, and you can tell, I think they were running a little long because most of Jay Uso's entrance was in break.
Starting point is 01:06:07 You saw him coming in and he had a long way to go and they had to get this thing going because they had two hours and this was the fifth match. And by the time they got him in and rung the bell, Jay Uso and Logan Paul for the world title, the bell rang it at 9.50 p.m. Eastern. We're barely 10 minutes on the air left, so they opened up fast, went one minute. Logan Paul did a dive and they went to the break. There was eight minutes left on the air when they went to the break.
Starting point is 01:06:45 And they came back. It was a short break, I believe only about two, two and a half minutes. But when they come back, Jay had already made the comeback and the ass in the face. and they're doing false finishes. And they did a number of false finishes. Logan Paul got one and Jay Uso got one and got another one. And then they had pulled the turnbuckle pad off Logan Paul had on one of the middle turnbuckles. And Logan Paul ran Uso into that and then hit him with the knockout punch and got a
Starting point is 01:07:25 a two count. That old knockout punch ain't what it used to be. And then Uso hits a super kick and goes to top and hits a big splash at one, two, and all of a sudden the referee gets whisked out of the ring like a tablecloth and it's John Sina, pulled him out on the floor, and jumped into the ring and started beating the shit out of Jay. And then music plays.
Starting point is 01:07:51 And here comes Cody. And he hits the ring and he gets. on John Sina. And he hit the crossroads for the first time ever when he hit his cross, when he hit his back, meaning Cody,
Starting point is 01:08:06 Sina still had about another 30 seconds before he landed. He just landed on top of a boom and walked off. And then Jay speared Logan Paul and hit the splash off the top and the referee counted one, two, three, despite being pulled out on the floor
Starting point is 01:08:23 by the aforementioned John Sina. And then so Jay won and Cody got on a microphone and says you've ruined enough and my DVR froze. So they were right down to the nub on time. Have you ever seen a more rushed match than this as a main event on a network TV special?
Starting point is 01:08:50 Well, it definitely seemed like they were going long when they went to the main event. and I looked at the clock, I was like, oh my God, what's on at 10? And then I realized, yeah, there is programming on at 10, and it's NBC's like, it was Dateline or something. And they were right at the limit, if not a little bit past it, and they set up the match for money in the bank. Cody Rhodes's return match will be teaming with Jay Uso
Starting point is 01:09:11 against John Sina and Logan Paul. What do you think? Well, that's all fine. I'm fine with that. I would have liked to have seen more than four minutes of this fucking match on the air and try to get the angle in at the end when you've got two fucking hours. Get the angle in at the end with enough time that the announcers can reinforce it for 30 seconds and my DVR can have a chance to fucking do its temperamental shit,
Starting point is 01:09:41 but this was right down to the nub. Yeah, you know NBC put a lot of commercials in when TKO said, this is too commercialized. But that was Saturday night's main event, and I would like to see the tag team match. I'd like to have seen a little bit more of some of these things, just for the sake of it. It was, again, it's like you're either starved or you're force-fed to the point of nausea. Well, we'll see what happens. Of course, we're on the road to money in the back.
Starting point is 01:10:13 We'll hopefully see Jesse Ventura again on this show. That would be an awful way for his swan song to transpire. I think if to see Jesse in the future, I think we need to find that particular home that he'll be residing in for dealing with some of his dementia-related issues. Oh, stop it. Will you stop it dementia-related issues? I think there'll be a day where we can bring Governor Jesse some peach cobblank.
Starting point is 01:10:41 I've got more important things on my mind, like MI-5. Yeah, well, he's going to have some M-I's up his ying-yang as they're testing him for the cognitive. decline that he's suffering. So I think we need to bring Jesse some peach cobbler every Sunday afternoon in the new home they're putting him in. Well, maybe I would still watch him as a commentator,
Starting point is 01:11:03 but that was Saturday night's main event. And of course, Jim, if you watch John Cena here, you may watch him and go, that man is not snug. That man does not squeeze a headlock. That man does not grip a cross face. It's wonderful for his opponents. they don't have to worry about a cauliflower ear from working with Mr. Sina. And if they had one, they may have hearing loss.
Starting point is 01:11:28 And of course, hearing loss inflicts so many. If inflict is in fact the word we want to use here, all throughout the land. It inflicts. There are so many who have hearing loss from everyday activity. And of course, some are, I guess, just born with it. Well, not, I guess. They are. We're talking about you, mom and pop, or whoever you are at home, all alone.
Starting point is 01:11:50 maybe you're by yourself. But hearing is something that could escort you throughout the rest of your way, listening to music, podcasts, and of course everyday conversation. Jim, I'm sure you have something to say about MD hearing. It's hard to hear things when you can't hear. That's why that you need to hear me now. Well, that's a good question, Brian. How are the folks hearing me now if the folks that need hearing aids
Starting point is 01:12:19 because they can't hear, how are they hearing me now if they still need the hearing aid? So I can tell them about the hearing aid that they so desperately need. It's all a vicious catch-22, ladies and gentlemen. But I'll tell you one thing, regardless of the stiffness of the headlocks, I don't know if somebody can just take a good slap
Starting point is 01:12:41 to the side of the head and be benefited by MD hearing. But if you're like so many Americans, or other peoples of other lands around the world, and you can't afford gas and food, and everything's getting more expensive, and everything's inflation, and you just say, I'm going to put off the hearing aid things,
Starting point is 01:13:04 too expensive. Well, that's where MD hearing comes into play, because the prices may be crazy at the clinics or the doctor's receptacles, that the very is that a word, Brian, like inflicts? If you're having inflicted doctors receptacles, no, you don't need to do that anymore. MD hearing.
Starting point is 01:13:30 You don't need to do that anymore, no. You don't need to do that anymore because MD hearing is featuring low-cost, high-quality hearing aids, $297 for a pair of hearing aids. This good is absolutely just burjork, just completely. crazy go mad nuts. And they've recently cut their prices to make these more affordable to the general
Starting point is 01:13:55 public because the general public can't hear at Thunder. That's why you're seeing a lot more people run down in the streets, Brian. Because they can't hear when the guy honks his horn or screams, get out of the fucking way, I'm going to run you down and a boom! For the record, we don't
Starting point is 01:14:12 have any evidence to show that there is any direct cause. Oh, statistics prove that most people that are run down at a high rate of speed don't know i'm telling you if you had those statistics it could possibly prove that you don't this is true this is true the statistics are that most people that are run down at a high rate of speed by motor vehicle do not survive i'm just telling you that's just that's science right there it's the science of the lambs so folks it's it sounded serious you actually made me believe you for a second and then the science of the lambs well because it's true think about it and the folks at md hearing wants you
Starting point is 01:14:46 to be able to afford these. And as I mentioned, I've given a pair to Stacey's stepfather who has a little problem with the hearing there. And now he hates the whole family. He hears everything that we say about him. But folks, MD hearing was founded by an E&T surgeon who saw how many of his patients needed hearing aids but couldn't afford them. And that's why he wanted to make his mission developing a quality hearing aid that
Starting point is 01:15:13 anybody could afford. And he has done so here. because they've sold over 2 million hearing aids. Did you know that 2 million people were not just trying to imitate Steve Austin when they said, what? Two million hearing aids they've sold. Those were potential clients for MD hearing
Starting point is 01:15:33 and hopefully they hear this transmission. They couldn't hear her, goddamn, they kept saying, turn it up, what? What, turn it up? We can't hear you, goddamn it. I tell Stace that all the time. She believes me, too. You know, I hate that cost us any business, but MD hearing should probably contact Steve Austin about doing commercials.
Starting point is 01:15:50 Just based on the whole thing. But he would charge so much that they would take the money they're paying us and pay him, and then we'd be out in the cold. And then we'd be saying, what? What? Folks, they offer a 45-day risk-free trial with a 100% money-back guarantee so that you can sample this fine product before you fully commit to a lifelong relationship. and you have confidence that they're not going to horn swoggle you. And they were just selected to be the hearing aid supplier for top Medicare Advantage plans,
Starting point is 01:16:25 so they're a brand you can trust because they're hooked in with the baby face part of the government. Medicare. Get the high-quality, affordable hearing age you deserve with MD hearing, folks. Go to shop MD hearing and use the promo code JCE to get a pair of, hearing aids for just $297. That's $150
Starting point is 01:16:50 bucks less an ear, for heaven's sake. As a matter of fact, if you have recently lost an ear in some type of wrestling ring-related catastrophe like McFoly, contact them and see if they'll just sell you one because why the fuck would they
Starting point is 01:17:06 penalize you? That'd be anti-discrimination laws of some kind. One-eared people unite. shop mdhearing.com and use the promo code jCE hearing aids just $297 if you need both and a free extra charging case that's a $100 value they're throwing that in there Brian do you think if you only needed one will they work with you well you buy the pair you have the pair of course a lot of us have hearing loss I have hearing loss from I go into concerts and being way too careless
Starting point is 01:17:48 about my ears and of course now I have a way to hear everything. You just let your ears go when you were younger just go everywhere. Unaccompanied and associate with a lower class of people. Now they have MD Hearing to accompany them. Jim, what's that promo code? One last time. J.C.E.
Starting point is 01:18:09 M.D.hearing.com slash JCP. No, shop MD.hearing.Horeing.com. but you asked for the promo code. You didn't specify you wanted to hold shabang there. Jim, what's that Shabang website? Well, Shapoopy, go to shopmdhearing.com and use the promo code JCE to get the pair of hearing aids
Starting point is 01:18:30 and a charge of case, $297. That's $149 per ear. One-eared people in choir separately. All right, we now move on to the next portion of the show. Obviously, based on that music, It's the clown show portion of the show. When last we left Wopinger Falls, old widow Trudel was busy baking cookies
Starting point is 01:18:58 while Mr. Trudel was fiddling in the corn shed with fucking the maid. Or something like that is exactly what transpired on pay-per-view. Jim, let's talk about AEW double or nothing 2025. They certainly, on commentary, were making out, like, this is their big event. I always think all in or all out is the big one, but I guess this is their big one.
Starting point is 01:19:23 And it happens. Aren't they all? Aren't they all the big ones? They're the long ones. They got to be the big ones too. Or what they don't have in girth, they make up for in length. Well, and sometimes that can be painful.
Starting point is 01:19:38 And boy, howdy, that prophecy came true here. My God, I would, as we were talking about the, Saturday night's main event, boy, it would have been nice to see a couple more minutes of a few of those matches that we, between commercial breaks and time constraints, only a two-hour program, we got like six minutes of match. Over here, they got no shortage of the matches. This pay-per-view, and you say it's their big one, again, Memorial Day weekend is how they've chosen their big one, and they're still all.
Starting point is 01:20:18 the gambling motif, regardless of what location that they're in, whether it's casino oriented or not, but four and a half hours on the official pay-per-view. And then the countdown show, as it's listed on my cable provider, where they're zero hour, whatever. There's another hour and a half. They only had two matches this time. Sometimes they've had four. You didn't see any of the pre-show? No, I've got the results here.
Starting point is 01:20:52 No, but did you see any of it? I did not see any of it because I've got the results. Well, beyond the results, there was one moment I have to mention. So, you know, it's hosted by RJ City, Renee Piquette, and Jeff Jarrett. And, you know, that's Jeff's role now. He didn't get his retirement match, so it said he's doing the pre-show. He's one of three. and as this triad is talking about the night's events
Starting point is 01:21:22 in between video packages and stuff all of a sudden they're joined by Lance Archer the big bad heel from the Don Callis family and then he just starts doing a preview for the paper I wanted you to see just that one thing because I found it's so funny because he's big and mean but then he's just like and that should be a big bad match he just starts talking about the pay-per-view like they are
Starting point is 01:21:45 Well, and let's analyze these contests, Renee. And he wasn't bad, other than the fact he's seven feet tall, so it kind of throws off the camera has to move back a little. He wasn't bad. Well, on the pre-show, Harley Cameron and Anna Jay beat Megan Brain and Penelope Pitstop. And then I really, I wanted to have time to go back and watch this one, Brian. Apparently, AR Fox, Commander, Hologram, and Bandito took the measure of Trent, Leo Rush, Action Andretti, and Rocky Romero.
Starting point is 01:22:26 Just to get people warmed up into the mood to see the 11 matches they're going to see on the pay-per-view. And did I mention, it was four and a half hours long, the pay-per-view. every match was it was like it was like they were stalling for time until the next match got there in the bad weather it nothing can end anything
Starting point is 01:23:00 that's funny well no think about it that's the only time I would ever encounter a situation like this where you made your show go four and a half hours on fucking purpose is it just me or is this Jim Powers match 45 minutes Yeah, I think
Starting point is 01:23:17 At the Super Bowl of Wrestling in Knoxville, I think we went four hours because I couldn't get anybody to goddamn calm down because the place was packed. But nevertheless, they were in Glendale, Arizona, I guess that's Outer Phoenix. And, Brent, the theme of this show,
Starting point is 01:23:39 to me, to be quite honest with you, was jackass wrestling. Not a description of, of the, I'm talking the television show. The, the childishness of it, the,
Starting point is 01:23:51 yeah, what would stupid people do on video to get on jackass or ridiculousness or TikTok or whatever the kids are on these days doing stupid things? You go from the wrestling that is obviously making money
Starting point is 01:24:12 hand over fist, but also is so, produced and professional and homogenized and you know time to where you get to see everything but the fucking wrestling with all the stars that know what they're doing or you come over here to mostly indie-minded guys are going to do the indie-minded things and there's no control over the show whatsoever
Starting point is 01:24:40 from corporate so you've got complete anarchy literally, which is why they're making jokes about it, where these guys are just allowed to go out and do every goddamn thing it's ever been done in a fucking ring, endlessly for as long as they want, and everybody gets to be the star of the show, which means there ain't no fucking stars. And by the time the shit that you actually sold people a ticket to maybe see happens,
Starting point is 01:25:10 they've seen so much other shit go on, that they just want to get out of it. of there, get home and fucking take these goddamn tight fucking underwear off. Yeah, you know, I don't know how much of it there really was. Sometimes you see stuff and if it's like by an account that typically is just making fun of AEW. Sometimes you think, okay, maybe this is not the genuine artifact. But there was a lot of footage of people after the anarchy match before the main event
Starting point is 01:25:40 of the show, the Owen Hart tournament final, just leaving. I don't know if everyone was just going to. into the bathroom because the experience they just went through. Because they had an upset stomach. Well, no, after the anarchy match, I wanted to leave and I was in my house. That was pretty tired by that point.
Starting point is 01:26:02 So there was no coming back at that point. But that's, it's just so much. So point being, they started out with something that we could ease into because it didn't take much of our time. the Owen Hart Tournament Ladies Division final with Mercedes moaned against Jamie Hader and it looked like an emaciated stripper fighting a kid's birthday clown
Starting point is 01:26:29 and I'm sorry, but I knew we had a long row to hoe and I wasn't going to watch. I see I'm not even going to make a fucking pun but I wasn't going to watch either one of these two. when we had four hours this shit to go. But I'll tell you, Brian, I stopped the fast forward twice, and every time one of these two
Starting point is 01:26:56 was either potato and the other one or landing on their head. And that's what the finish was. They went 22 minutes, bell to bell. On a show that was going to be four hours long plus, it's just it's ridiculous that there's no more structure or professionalism put in place but Mercedes after they'd done every goddamn thing you could do she small packaged her and super dd teeter with a speed this is the first time i've ever seen
Starting point is 01:27:37 an attempted small package nearly lead to the end of a career she just drove over down right on top for fucking head. Boom, one, two, three. I'm sure. Could have probably counted to 12. If it'd been me, I'd just be like, fuck, I give, get the fuck off me. Did you see that small package?
Starting point is 01:27:58 Oh, I did. That was one of several spots that looked incredibly dangerous or close to dangerous over the last few days. I know you haven't seen Raw yet, but there's a spot with Chad Gable in that three-way match where it looked like he came as close as you can get, getting spiked on your head.
Starting point is 01:28:15 Yeah, I saw it here. And this went a while this match. Yes, 22 minutes. I counted. And Josephine Camel wins with the small package. But that's otherwise an aunt. Owen Hart tournament winner. She's now the Owen Hart tournament winner.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Well, and that is expected because the match that they apparently have that they think is their golden goose of the women's division is her and Tony Storm, right? That's all in. That's the match happening at Texas, yeah. Yes, so that's, you know, what's going to happen. But I, you know, I hope she doesn't fucking small package Tony Storm like that, for heaven's sake.
Starting point is 01:29:02 Luther will need to be an orthopedic surgeon. He's a brain surgeon already, but I don't know about the other. Who do you put over in that match? Oh God In terms of importance to AEW Not necessarily expense to AEW Who do you put on? Tony Storm
Starting point is 01:29:18 The people sit And in some cases Closer she is to Boston They politely tolerate her But they sit on their hands When this Again self-indulgent insufferably egotistical
Starting point is 01:29:35 fucking Mercedes Moon is inflicted on them for all this length of time. They like Tony Storm. I think it's fucking goofy as shit, but they like Tony Storm. I would obviously put Tony Storm
Starting point is 01:29:53 or anybody else right now over Mercedes. All right, well, not take a turn. Just anyone can go over her now. Or just anybody. Just beat her. Just beat her. Well, I'm sure this kind of negative cover... Whip him.
Starting point is 01:30:06 Whip him like a dog. That's David Crockett. would say, that's right. Yes, as David Crockett would say it, a Monet Mag is a rag. How about that? It was written as a gag. You know, everyone makes fun of that line from David Crockett. It's you he's talking about, right? You're the one he'll guess. Whip him, whip him like a dog. He got excited. Whip him like a dog. That could be, that line could be, and by the way, it's from superstars on the
Starting point is 01:30:35 superstation, the TBS special in 1986, but it could be superimposed over some type of German porn and get a whole new fucking thing going on. Well, we didn't get to watch German porn next. We got to watch FTR against
Starting point is 01:30:56 Danny Garcia and Nigel McGinnis. And again, if this wasn't a four-hour show, I would have paid more close attention to this because I did think going in it, it could be the only decent wrestling match tonight, except for Garcia's involvement.
Starting point is 01:31:15 But again, this is more about what they're not doing than what they did. FTR's got Stokely, Garcia and Nigel have Daddy Mac. That fat-faced fuck. It's such a waste of FTR. They're wrestling, they've got a manager that hasn't been proven to be affiliated with any main event talent in the past. I know everybody's got to start somewhere, but you would hope that the guy that the starting manager got,
Starting point is 01:31:47 or the team or whatever, the entity that the manager got put with would be the thing to elevate him, but they're trying to rehabilitate FTR, who have been so misused and marginalized and just negligent. And they're wrestling Danny Garcia, just because I guess, because he's got nothing better to fucking do. and they still haven't figured out
Starting point is 01:32:11 that that ain't never going to fucking happen. Garcia is in no way ever a money fucking guy. He's not a legitimate main event talent. And all of the guys working with him, it's ridiculous, like he's at the level of that. Nigel is a better fucking worker Garcia,
Starting point is 01:32:32 but he's a fucking announcer and has had like two matches in the last 15 years. and they've done an angle like that, yes, I could understand if this was the days of, you know, some territory where the beloved, you know, Lord Layton in Detroit for the sheet came off the commentary desk to get back in the ring because he was such a big star. FTR is one of two tag teams on the roster that could perform in a main event, setting.
Starting point is 01:33:12 And they're doing this, and they're like the Hurt syndicate, where they have no opponents that would mean anything in a money match, so they, you know, fucking come up with this shit. And if it had been a TV match for eight to ten minutes, there you go. But 20 minutes. 20 minutes. And again, they had not, Tony come in. No, I'm sorry it was 22 minutes now that I'm checking my notes.
Starting point is 01:33:44 But they've got Tony awkwardly trying to check on Nigel on the floor, and FTR is trying to bully him, but Tony looks like he doesn't know what to do because he doesn't know what to do. And Garcia fought both FTR members in an awkward way, but then they grabbed him and Dax pile drove him and got a two count. And then they spike pile drove him and got a two count where he got his foot on the ropes. Why do they do pile drivers? You're pile driving the fucking stagged dime's neck fucking blase mid-card guy multiple times to get two counts.
Starting point is 01:34:27 And then they get the sharpshooter on Garcia and cash kept Fat Face and Nigel out, or Nigel was already on the floor. but Dax had to hold on to this forever until a referee rang the bell. So they'd done all this fucking up and down stuff throughout the match and then they finally, after going 22 minutes with an announcer and a middle card guy, they do a stationary finish
Starting point is 01:34:59 where pile drivers can't stop him, but a glorified Boston crab. They just, why did they just, beat him with a spike pile driver. Then he's got it out. And then it was more exciting than what they got. Help me understand this. I can't understand it.
Starting point is 01:35:24 I don't understand why it went so long. I don't understand why they keep trying to elevate Garcia when it ain't going to work. Someone wrote in because now he's wearing yellow trunks and red boots. What's this guy's name? Let's give him credit. Sean from New York.
Starting point is 01:35:36 That should call him Salk Hogan. Not bad. But I mean, how did it even help him to, to, yeah, I kicked out of the spike pile driver, but then the fucking sharpshooter. That was just, oh, my gosh, I laid here for a minute and finally referee said, well, he ain't going to do shit. Because there's no supervise. Who's supervising all this?
Starting point is 01:35:58 Who's in charge? Who's in charge of the booking of all this? Who's the one saying what's going on? That's the person at fault. It's just none of it. And FTR, like you said with Stokely, how many start and stops has Stokely gotten in NXT
Starting point is 01:36:11 and now here where it's like okay this guy seems to have a rap all right and now he's kind of a joke character and now he's gone oh now he's here again and now he's managing women
Starting point is 01:36:23 and he's got some jokes some witty line and now he's gone and now he's with FTR it's a new thing but it's a new heel thing you don't have new baby faces to work with
Starting point is 01:36:35 and quite frankly mid-card Daniel Garcia and Nigel, who like you said, really hasn't done it, I mean, he hasn't done anything in 15 years other than two matches. It went forever. There was no reason for it to.
Starting point is 01:36:50 The finish made no sense. Well, speaking of things that don't make a lot of sense, they had a stretcher match between Rickishay and Mark Briscoe and the reason why that we were subjected to the
Starting point is 01:37:09 stretcher match apparently is because I think I told you this on the last show, but it was revealed on the internet that the first ECW show that Tony Khan went to or the first one he went to in Philadelphia or whatever, there was a stretcher match on the card so he
Starting point is 01:37:27 knew, right? He had to have a stretcher match. The Mark Booker saw one when he was a kid. So let's have a stretcher match with large amounts of blood and they're not going to use the ring at all on the undercard of a fucking 10 or 12-man conglomeration cluster fuck match where they don't use the ring at all.
Starting point is 01:37:57 What the fuck is wrong with these people? The ambulance was in the back of the arena. the stretcher was a gurney with wheels like that the fire department would have. And ricochet again jump started it and Mark Briscoe fought back and they went up the ramp and fought to the ambulance. And then they fought at ringside. And then Mark did an elbow off the apron onto the stretcher and he used a chair on him multiple times and pulled out a table.
Starting point is 01:38:35 it was five minutes in and I wrote they haven't stepped foot in the fucking ring yet and then but then ricochet with a heel move he pushed it back underneath the they have a goddamn garbage match later so they're having a two-man garbage match before they have the 10-man garbage match and they were I wrote still fighting on the floor
Starting point is 01:39:02 still fighting on the floor at seven minutes into this match they got in the ring with Mark Briscoe bringing in a bucket of spray cleaner and he got ricochet in a headlock, sprayed his head with Windex, and shined it with a cloth, and then hit him with a bucket. And then they got back out of the ring. And I started fast forwarding at that point because it's just they went back to the fucking ambulance. Mark Briscoe was bleeding buckets. I don't know what they attributed it to,
Starting point is 01:39:42 but he did the fire extinguisher spot where he sprayed the fire extinguisher out of the ambulance. They went back to the ring and did the elbow off the top rope putting the guy through the fucking table. And they fought on the floor and went back to the ambulance. And Briscoe got the golden scissors away from Rickashay, but Rickache found a second pair of regular colored scissors.
Starting point is 01:40:10 They may not have the same amount of powers, but he stabbed him with the second scissors and threw him in the ambulance and slammed the door. Out of 16 minutes, they spent one minute in the fucking ring, and they did the whole garbage match deal. before the garbage match that they had booked that was the main event. Again, Brian, help me in trying to understand.
Starting point is 01:40:44 I can't, you always ask for help when you know I can't help. Was this the bloodiest match you ever saw with Mark Briscoe? Oh, God, no. The briskos were, you know, free bleeders, but it's not the point. It's not the point besides the fact, and here's the thing, they're stabbing each other with scissors.
Starting point is 01:41:05 later on the plumber is going to stab Hobbs with what was apparently either a fork or some type of cutlery and Hobbs got a little pap smear. What would it have made if he'd have bled out because you've already seen Mark Briscoe look like he's bleeding out
Starting point is 01:41:26 and he's going to come back and interfere in the garbage match. That's right. Without getting cleaned up in the interceding hour and a half, but the point is it was it was the match before the match with the blood and the gimmicks and the not using the ring and the whole nine yards they have they can't just do one of anything even in the same night what about the tag team title match brian should we move on to
Starting point is 01:42:04 that the hurt syndicate dustin and sammy i think think this was the shortest match of the night at 13 minutes and maybe the only thing that actually accomplished anything besides repetition and boredom. But again, it illustrated this could have been a TV match. It was here so that MJF would be at ringside with the Hurt Syndicate for the first time and, you know, further that story. and get the Hertz another win because obviously there's nobody set up to remotely even beat them. But again, this is a TV match. It's not a World Tag Team title match for a pay-per-view.
Starting point is 01:42:54 But it's not like they had any other choice. There are no other teams. And I love Dustin's work, but I think this was better when Sammy was in because the Hertz don't care how far they throw him. You know what I mean? Yeah, I saw a little bit of that in this match. I thought Shelton worked with. Well, I mean, you can't be disrespectful to Dustin,
Starting point is 01:43:19 but Sammy, you can fling away. Yeah, this was quick and I was probably for the best. And I don't know who they're going to work with or where they're going to go next. Well, finally what happened was MJF had offered the ring, dynamite diamond ring to Shelton Benjamin, but Lashley told him, hey, get down off the apron.
Starting point is 01:43:43 And they went back and forth for a minute. And then MJF ended up gouging Dustin's eyes and went for the punch with the ring. But that's where Lashley stopped him and smiled at him and inspired Dustin through the rail. And then Shelton knee lift, super kick, Sammy, there you go, one, two, three. So at least they have avoided this trap of thinking, they need to hit people with 80 goddamn different things to beat them and killing everybody's finishing the process. But this, again, it was a TV match to further the MJF story.
Starting point is 01:44:20 Nobody thought Dustin and Sammy were going to win. Nobody should have thought it. And there should be a, if this is their big fucking pay-per-view, why is the World Tag Team title match meaningless? You dumb shit. sets final comments from you who will stop the hurt business
Starting point is 01:44:46 who will be able to get together an unexpected tag team and stop these men from conquering AEW forever well I think Vince McMahon stopped the hurt business but the hurt syndicate is doing did I do that that's what Jeff Jarrett did on a pre-show too they had to stop it
Starting point is 01:45:01 sorry guys the hurt syndicate all right is a monkey business Now there was a match for another title belt. What's it, the continental? What was the other belt they had that was, along with the continental, not intercontinental, but international? International.
Starting point is 01:45:26 Do they still have that? Who's that champion? That champion? Is it Omega? You can't look it up. That's not fair. I'm not looking it up. That was my pen.
Starting point is 01:45:38 That was my pen. Who is it? Is it Omega? I don't know. Who knows? But they had a belt. So they had a match for it. With Oblada, our friend from Japan, Oblada.
Starting point is 01:45:53 That's what somebody said on Twitter. And I think I like that. Oblada, because blah. And Hong Kong, Fui, they're trolling us now, Brian. As the kids, they are trolling. I can hear Ernie Lad say, you're trolling me now. Now, you are trolling mid-south wrestling.
Starting point is 01:46:15 Why would, I don't know why you would do this, but this, the one little hyperactive shit can't stop moving. And the other guy is the laziest wrestler in major league sports. I enjoyed this. And what the? I enjoyed this because, you know, usually I don't like matches when I know, you know, exactly who's going to win. Like, there's no chance. Nothing's going to happen. It's going to be Ocada winning. But watching Speedball do everything in the world to him. And Ocada, at times his way of
Starting point is 01:46:51 selling is just like kneeling and looking exhausted, but knowing he's going to win and eventually, you know, when they get there, knowing that people online are going to be like, O'Cada did again. Another fantastic Ocada performance. I got a kick out of this match, but O'Cada's a slug. what about what about that one time when he wiped his brow brian that's selling i mean that was over the top next level selling you don't even understand the sweat i just watched the the the one kid is is play acting i mean he maybe his childhood wasn't happy he was a lonely kid and he dreamed up this thing that he could fucking be in his mind where he's the martial arts hero of,
Starting point is 01:47:44 you know, fucking Roosevelt Elementary or something. No, he really is a black belt, apparently. Well, so's was my cousin Larry. In Kata. My cousin Larry was a black belt in Taekwondo. Did he ever use it? Did he ever just throw kicks like crazy, like speedball bag? Yeah, what day he tried to show us how he could break a board with a kick
Starting point is 01:48:07 and missed it and kicked the foundation, broke his foot. But he was a legitimate blackboard. belt he went through the course and everything. Well, you know, you pick on a lot of guys for being small and sometimes I think it's unfair in comparison to some of the other people they're around. You know, sometimes it works. This guy's really small. And that's one of the reasons I got a kick out of this match
Starting point is 01:48:32 was because it was just ridiculous. Because Okada's not the biggest guy, but an AEW is pretty big, I guess. Well, he's six foot three according to the announcers. But this guy's so slow. Yeah. Now he's dying his hair. Did he die at gray? Well, yes, that's what I was going to mention. When you talk about Hong Kong Fui being small, he is, he's microscopic, but also he's got a head
Starting point is 01:48:58 that's just a little bit too large for that small body, so it makes the body look even more comically tiny. But it's just, it's ridiculous. And with Oblada, yes, instead of being. bleach blonde now and looking like some kind of, you know, weird Japanese club employee. Now he looks like a fucking parking
Starting point is 01:49:22 attendant from Sapporo. He's, I didn't know you could dye your hair, salt and pepper. Because it looks, it's brown, but it looks like brown hair naturally going gray. Or did he just, has he been gone long enough that he was able to grow that out and we didn't notice it? I don't know what's, but he's.
Starting point is 01:49:42 It definitely goes with that new album. outfit of his, the oversized suit for an old man. Like it works together. If he was wearing waiters, he'd be ready to go out fishing. His new gimmick is he's an old fisherman from Okinawa. But anyway, so that's the point is, I mean, this is another little video game match on the one kid's part. I think they ought to put spitball in the women's division where it looks visually like
Starting point is 01:50:11 he'd have a chance. He makes pockets look like Stan Hanson. but he's treating it like a little video game thing and old Okada's treating it like I'm going to get another big check from this fucking mark for doing as little as possible and barely hitting the mat. He's the laziest bastard in wrestling
Starting point is 01:50:32 and he reacts and falls as slowly and easily as possible and then the baby face looks and acts like a complete douchebag. so in 15 minutes Okada won with a shitty clothesline he didn't cheat he just beat him but fucking this
Starting point is 01:50:54 this kid is so obnoxious on any level how would even the modern wrestling fan take this kid as a baby face when he's like a malfunctioning inner jazzer bunny at a comic con
Starting point is 01:51:10 have you heard his promo I can only imagine that it's delivered at a tone so high that only fucking seals in the Arctic can hear it. Well, it sounds like you've seen his promo. Yeah. You know, my thing has been, and I've said it before, if Tony's going to sign a lot of guys that are smaller, which it'll be funny when WWE to stop that just start signing all these tiny guys,
Starting point is 01:51:38 then he should literally just have a weight division and make it something marketable. you know, see the, you know, the young, small, tiny guys really get in there and they're faster and quicker than those big heavy weights we don't have. They can get into all those tight orifices, ladies gentlemen. They're so small and tiny, they can insinuate themselves inside. They announced him, I think, at 170. If they announced him at 170 pounds, how much does he actually weigh? He's not as big as Brian Hildbrandt.
Starting point is 01:52:09 Mark Curtis for the uninitiated. And, you know, that's again, but the thing is, it's not about the size with him. It's about the overall unmarketability of this annoying, obnoxious, goofy little kid that has been somehow let loose at the adult's fucking party. That he's just, he's like the annoying Comic Con cosplayer where he's hopping around on the floor of the convention,
Starting point is 01:52:39 acting like Han. Kong fooie and doing his pose with his fist and his hand and he's got a mouth guard, which I just thought those were the whitest teeth anybody had ever come across, but apparently it's a mouth guard. But again, I see he looks like Riggie Steamboat's daughter. What the fuck? It's just... But again, if they had a 150-pound weight division or something,
Starting point is 01:53:08 and you have him, you have Orange Cassidy. still wouldn't be no put connor mcgregor in the fucking thing or what he still wouldn't be an attraction at any weight unsafe at any speed is what this fucking guy is i've just did the whole thing is goofiness it's like the a e w equivalent of t l hopper this guy's gimmick it's so blatantly fucking stupid and he's hopping around with it on his bare feet somebody stomped his god damn foot stomp his foot kick him in the shin grab his fucking balls you beat you just won the match would you like to talk about the next match that didn't involve any balls brian another one of those stellar transitions i'm not sure i don't remember what the next match was
Starting point is 01:54:00 so i don't want to commit to anything well it was the women's title match with tony storm and mina melons you didn't you didn't want to see this Is everybody involved in this hokey horse shit on the cratum, Brian? Could that explain it that they are 80% like, like Jelly Nutella says, and boy, a more reputable source you've never found for information, ladies and gentlemen. You think 80% of these people are on some kind of fucking truck stop opiate
Starting point is 01:54:38 that is clouding their judgment-making skills? I don't want to get bogged down with this here we probably have to return to this on a later show but we've actually been inundated with feedback from people pro and against it people who say that it saved their life and they use it all the time and then people who said
Starting point is 01:54:59 it almost destroyed my life it says it's as a victim of his heroin literally the next email one email will say I owe my life to crate him and the other one will say stay away from this devil's drug it's horrible I was addicted.
Starting point is 01:55:15 So we'll return to that, but allegedly a lot of people may be on it. What did the point is, Tony Storm, okay, the people, that like AEW, they love her.
Starting point is 01:55:29 She's the most popular woman on the roster. I think it's so fucking over-the-top ridiculous that it could have been, it could have been something that was cool and got the same result if they had played, had the rest of the world play it a little straighter and let Tony be the, but nevertheless. But now they're trying to build her and old Mercedes moan,
Starting point is 01:55:56 but they've also, they've got to establish, you can still see Kenny's finger in the talent roster because they got to establish all these Japanese girls that have to jump around and and do the whole thing for people who want to laugh at wrestling. This whole show is for people who want to laugh at wrestling. People should laugh at this show, but the problem is this show makes people laugh at all wrestling. And the only thing to me that makes Tony Storm's gimmick any worse is that fat fuck Luther that has to be comedy on top of comedy.
Starting point is 01:56:41 because everybody's got a, it's slapstick, it's keystone cops, nobody can fucking help themselves. And so they had this match that they've built up for 15 minutes, Tony Storm hits a pile driver on her, one, two, three, at least a pile driver still works on to women. And then Tony Storm was apologizing that she had to do that to her. and the girl that got pile driven in 30 seconds was okay enough to be up and kiss and make out with Tony Storm. And this audience thinks there's nothing at all ridiculous about this whole goddamn thing.
Starting point is 01:57:28 Well, I think Tony Storm is like Orange Cassidy. It's an act, it's a comedy act that they really like being into. Tony can actually work. Tony's actually one of the best women workers out there. And she's developed this gimmick. And, you know, it works for them, I guess. It doesn't necessarily work for me. Her and Monet, I am interested to see that.
Starting point is 01:57:58 I'm afraid that Tony Storm will come out. Tony Storm compared to Mercedes Moon as far as a draw is 10 to 1, what little Josephine Camel will ever be. You think Mercedes-Money may have a tractor accident before the match? Well, no, what I'm saying is that Mercedes also has a high opinion of herself and her alleged abilities and apparently has her own writer and her own team that can't help her when she gets lost in the woods. But I have a feeling that Tony Storm will suffer because Mercedes-Mone has a bigger team and bigger pull and considers herself a bigger star
Starting point is 01:58:40 and Tony Storm is far and away the person who should win that match, but I don't see that the other bitch doing a job. All right, you really hate her. It's really coming out now. The money that she's getting for what she's contributing and the phoniness of her
Starting point is 01:59:00 and the insufferable douchebaggery of her? You know what I just heard the other day? Hold on, I'm going to look this up to make sure I got it right. I was shocked to hear this. Do you know how old Mina Shirakawa is? I do not have any idea. 37.
Starting point is 01:59:17 37. Well, that's a good round number to retire on. All right. Well, we're moving on now. In the old days of Japanese women's wrestling, they retired at 26. We now move on. Yes. To another thing here.
Starting point is 01:59:35 Another thing. What was next on this show? Well, I'll tell you what was next on the show. smiley roberts smiley roberts was in the ring and this began 45 minutes of pure indie wrestling delight there were people with chito stained fingers and sweaty jowls and potential boils on their perennium there were literally pleasuring themselves for the next 45 minutes minutes when all the kids got to come out and play and have fun. And Smiley set the tone as the ring announcer.
Starting point is 02:00:21 He's there at a goddamn dressed up suit. And he looks down in the front row apparently at some child and says, cover your ears and then says, oh, shit. They had the ring announcer say, aw, shit. He was more than happy to say it, it seemed. and oh he's always happy this is
Starting point is 02:00:46 anarchy in the arena why did they have to have this fucking the ring announcers say oh shit because oh shit this is a warning now get out with your sanity
Starting point is 02:01:00 while you still can't what if they had told Howard Finkel in Madison Square Garden Howard go out there when you plug the next card and say oh shit Undertaker's back So Can you see Finkels?
Starting point is 02:01:17 I'm trying to hear his voice saying Yes And oh shit Oh shit Oh shit Yes It's Ripo man Oh
Starting point is 02:01:29 I don't remember I don't remember if I ever Heard Finkel say the word shit Whose idea was it Was it Justin Roberts like Hey hey Hey boss I got a great idea Is it okay if I do this or was Tony like
Starting point is 02:01:44 Listen I got a great idea It came to me in hour 47 of my four days up And here's what it is Well anyway they started the entrances And here came swerve out Now he's wearing some kind of science fiction costume was that Some recognized character Brian
Starting point is 02:02:08 Or is he just having they're spending some of their extra money everybody's got a science fiction fucking outfit now. Did you recognize it from any pop culture or anything? Or did you pay any attention? Yeah, I didn't really pay attention to his outfit as he came out.
Starting point is 02:02:24 This is... What about him is their big thing? This is their big thing. This is like you know, they're Grammys. They're anarchy in the arena. So that's the night you get dressed up. That's the night you go out and you get your finest shoes and suit and... But what about swerve's gimmick is the most dangerous
Starting point is 02:02:40 man in AEW and that he does all these horrible. What about it is science fiction? What part of him is supposed to be in a video game? Then here came Willow, dressed like Plow Girl Frasier. And that's when I realized the girls are in this match too. And of course, since they never really actually all appear in the same place, the same time, you can't really tell who's on whose team, but the girls allegedly,
Starting point is 02:03:13 till the end, we're going to fight each other. But yeah, so this most dangerous match in the history of all danger, everybody comes dressed up in funny costumes and girls can play too. And then when Hobbs and Shepoope came out, Samoa Joe was introduced, but he didn't come out. And actually, when the other two walked out,
Starting point is 02:03:38 the people were chanting for Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, he didn't show up. He comes out later on when the fight starts. And then here came Kenny. And he came out with a garbage can, which was apropos. And the garbage can lid was painted like Captain America's shield, but with his insignia on it. And it's Halloween for all these kids.
Starting point is 02:04:08 They've always dreamed to do. doing this. And now they have found a guy with unlimited amounts of money that will let them play like they always wanted to. And then here came Dick the Boozer and Wheeler useless and Claudio and Marina Schaefer. They made their stagger through the crowd. And then, of course, because the EVPs are involved, they've even got more pull than everybody else. they not only get to wear funny outfits, but they get to be able to tell the ring announcer to do their own ring introduction,
Starting point is 02:04:45 and they get their own silly music. And they play the fuck, it's the fife and drum music, because it's Memorial Day, and there's silly verbiage that's supposedly comedy, but it's not funny, but they get a kick out of it.
Starting point is 02:05:03 The crowd doesn't react. And after, they joke with the funny music and the overdone introduction about how these people are our founding fathers, the buccaroos walk out dressed like Benjamin Franklin or like Jerry Seinfeld in the Puffy Shirt episode. And nobody cares. They're wasting minutes on this. This is the goddamn, this whole hokey outlaw bullshit match is the idea of these little jack-offs from kookamonga to get attention and do anything that their little hearts can desire and think of to do because the mark is paying for it all that was originally thought of to be the ultimate mud show bullshit to make up for and hide
Starting point is 02:05:58 their shortcomings that they can't work and they can't put matches together and they can't sell tickets on their ability. So we'll just throw a bunch of fucking bullshit out there, and it'll be a spectacle, and people will watch the car wreck, and we can take credit for that, but now they're parodying, their own parody.
Starting point is 02:06:24 They're making fun of the thing that they came up with to make fun of the business and bilk the billionaire money mark. Tony not only pays for this, shit but has to pay to put it on television. And they're just checking around. And pay for the music. I think it's five times the limit
Starting point is 02:06:48 before you have to pay a significant, more amounted rights fees. So they do 12 minutes of entrances. And then the baby faces jump started. Imagine that in the entrance way. And they go to a quadruple box. not a double box, not even a triple box, a quadruple box. Brian, I have an 82-inch television,
Starting point is 02:07:15 and I couldn't tell what was going on in four different pictures at the same time, when, especially because they were just using four different camera angles, but that didn't mean that the camera, where they was trying to shoot whatever scene was going on, was able to catch it because they obviously hadn't blocked this thing in a professional basis, it was like, yeah, we're going to go over there and over there and do that and that and you just shoot
Starting point is 02:07:42 it. So it was all over the fucking place. Joe and Claudio go out to the parking lot. They're still playing the fife and drum music. The girls are fighting each other on the floor. And then Kenny's got to be funny.
Starting point is 02:08:00 And so he says, gets on a microphone or signals to change the music and they start playing, I'm so excited. And then Kitty says, no, no, we want some 2000s alternative rock, and they play, let the bodies hit the floor five times through from that point on,
Starting point is 02:08:24 stopping and starting it over again. Tellingly, when the music stops in between until they can re-wrack it and start it again, there's usually no goddamn noise to build it. because it sounds from my description like a lot was going on, but it's still it's fake looking shit that you couldn't see or follow, not involving the ring, everybody walk fighting everywhere, and that's where the group of a dozen or so security guys came in
Starting point is 02:08:57 because they would go from place to place and then stand there, in a tightly packed agreement, group for somebody to jump off something into them. And then that's where Moxley was. Mark Briscoe bled to the point where you thought he'd need a transfusion in one of the preliminary matches. But Moxley is stabbing Hobbs with a fork in the head over and over and over and almost
Starting point is 02:09:31 nothing. And then the girls were in the parking lot. Willow quote unquote broke a bottle over Marina Schaefer's head and she didn't go down. Did you see that part? I did. She didn't go down from having a bottle broken over her head. Because they wouldn't, in the movie that they're seeing in their heads that they're getting paid by this billionaire manchild to star in. So it's supposed to be dangerous, but everything looks fake.
Starting point is 02:10:12 And nobody's taking it seriously. Finally, they stopped the music. As I said, maybe they got the goddamn signal they can't play it anymore. And then they chained Willow's ear to the ring post. They broke some more tables, some more pile drivers. that didn't hurt anybody. Marina Schaefer was bleeding, but she was beating up the guys.
Starting point is 02:10:42 And as I said, the music was helping. But after a while, everybody was just staring at this shit. Because it was on and on. And on. And then at one point, Nana drove swerve out on a forklift so he could jump off of it.
Starting point is 02:11:07 And then, everybody got a sleeper. And then they got out of that by getting the staple guns. And, Brian, unless you use it like a brass knuckle, what good is it? Why would you staple somebody
Starting point is 02:11:24 if you were in a fight with them? You know, of the whole match and all the problems you have with and everything, this was the stuff I had the biggest problem with, the staple gun. Not only was it stupid, but it just caused Swarrestrictle and nonstop want to stick out of it.
Starting point is 02:11:38 his tongue at the camera for the rest of the match. Yes, because this surgeon, and by the way, when we finish reviewing the roster, we get to the S's, I think I may have already kept swerve because he was a champion or is he a champion of something? I'm rethinking it because he's a fucking moron. He's a stupid, stupid individual because he's always doing some shit like this. He's in a blood drinking spot or he's letting somebody here. staple his tongue with a real staple gun and a real staple.
Starting point is 02:12:13 And there are some weird individuals who go, oh, yeah, that's cool. No, what that is is a stupid, stupid individual. And if you look up to people who staple their own tongues with a staple gun, you are a stupid, stupid person looking up at a stupid, stupid, individual. it's not going to win anybody a fight it just makes wrestling look like bite the head off the fucking chicken at the fair and get it over with if you want to be low-class jelling to tell a pond scum-sucking side show freaks but nobody used the staple gun like a brass knuckle
Starting point is 02:12:59 everybody stapled their tongues and their titties and then Moxley gave Will Willow and RKO, because it's pay-per-view, so he could. And then Kenny gave Marina Schaefer that begonia suplex. But I'm thinking if Kenny did it to Marina, that can't be called man-on-woman violence, can it? In the truest sense of the word, you choose not to answer me? I don't know why you're throwing this. It's a man, she's a woman.
Starting point is 02:13:34 It's man-on-woman violence. Well, it's where their hearts lay. So then the Buccarus double superkicked, everybody including Willow. Willow didn't go down from the Buccaro's double super kick. Of course, I could kind of understand that. It would have been unrealistic if she had. Hook showed up with a golf club and beat the shit out of Claudio with it and walked out. Thanks for coming down and throwing in your contribution.
Starting point is 02:14:11 Yeah, what was that? I don't know. He came down with a golf club and just beat up Claudio because he had the chance and plus his Uber was out back. So he needed to leave. They were running overtime. So then Joe got the joke on Moxley. And here came Gabe Kidd.
Starting point is 02:14:30 The true value of Josh Alexander. I swear to God, why don't they just be a brother team? If you put fucking a bald guy of kind of a slim build and a fucking beard, put the head gear on both of them, you can't tell them apart. And he piled drove Kenny and then Wheeler put tacks in Kenny's mouth
Starting point is 02:14:56 and gave him a shitty knee lift that was nowhere near his mouth. But again, let's put some tacks in his mouth. Why? They're both childish and again, this is an audition for jackass or whatever their modern version of it is. Hey, let's show everybody we're stupid people doing stupid shit on video and people will notice us. And forever will be known as that stupid guy that did that stupid thing. And In Briscoe came in and dove in and thought game.
Starting point is 02:15:37 kid and the girls were back up and still fighting. And then they locked Moxley's group in the ambulance so Kenny and Swerve could beat up the Buccane and then Nana gave swerve a pair of tennis shoes with thumb tacks on the souls. So the swerve could take time to, you know, that'd be a great song title. That's deep. Thumb tacks on the souls. Thumb tacks on the souls.
Starting point is 02:16:12 He took his regular boots off and put the fucking tennis shoes with the thumb tacks on the souls on. And then Kenny gave the one-winged fairy to one of the buccaroos off the stage onto an exploding table. It didn't really blow up like to kill all of them, unfortunately. but there was like a small amount of pyro wired to it so that when they landed and it broke in the middle you could see the shit that was wired underneath it where it went pow pow pow pow I swear to God they literally put a fucking table
Starting point is 02:16:55 wired with a minimum amount of pyro next to the stage for no other reason through the whole show than for them to jump off onto just so they got to take a bump and an exploding table, Brian. Yeah, you know, of all the stupid things in the match, and again, I hate the thumbtacks, and there are things I really hate in a match,
Starting point is 02:17:23 the random exploding table out of nowhere in the middle of nowhere. Yes. Who wired it? What is it doing there? Who put it there? So we could take our bump onto it. but it exists for no other purpose. Exactly what explodes.
Starting point is 02:17:44 Nothing goes in the air. So then swerve came off the top with a double stomp on buck number two with the thumbtack shoes and covered him one, two, three. And then stuck his tongue out and showed everybody the staple it was in his tongue. I want to have these people had their shots.
Starting point is 02:18:05 Tetanus, rabies, malaria, AIDS, whatever the random variety of communicable hepatitis. So I'm rethinking if I kept any of these fuckwits involved in this, poor Hobbs, he just lost,
Starting point is 02:18:28 trying to find a friend. But I'm rethinking it if they would take part in the 35-minute match, 45 or more with entrances, self-indulgent, stupid, not good for the business, takes no talent,
Starting point is 02:18:47 and they're all delusional. Did I cover all the high points? Sounds like a five-star match to me, if ever. Yeah, you covered all the points. We've seen them do their arena shows originally with no one there in the stadium. They're headed in that direction again.
Starting point is 02:19:09 Remember Matt Hardy transported. They've been doing this kind of stupid shit since the very beginning. I hate that fucking let the bodies hit the floor song. I know you used it for OVW, no disrespect OVW. I hate that fucking song.
Starting point is 02:19:21 We had a, Kenny Olegger called it alternative rock. That's not alternative rock in any way. What is he talking about? Well, Kitty, there's a lot of alternatives to Kenny, but we had a nice snappy video to the song. We didn't play it for 20 fucking minutes straight
Starting point is 02:19:36 while we were goddamn wandering around fucking throwing shit at each other. Yeah, no, I hate it. I hated it. it came out, I hate it now, I can't pretend that it's not an awful song. But this is what they wanted. Their big spectacle leading up to the big Texas show. Those dastardly heels were so foolish, they all got locked in an ambulance.
Starting point is 02:19:57 Why was the ambulance there? If the ambulance was there to, I guess it didn't take Brisco out. It just, he was in there and then someone took him out. And then they just forgot to move the ambulance. Hey, we got it for the night. Why not just leave it here? Yeah, it's not in a way or anything. It's a parody of wrestling
Starting point is 02:20:20 concocted by, you know, from the top down, kids who dreamed about doing this as children and all the cool things they'd get to do and then suddenly somebody's plopped literally a half a billion dollars in front of them and said, okay, go ahead. and the actual profession suffers because of it, but we get this. Well, Jim, before we plop along here, you don't have to a match like that, both the audience
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Starting point is 02:25:33 what's that special link cornbread hemp dot com slash JCE, use the code JCE at the checkout. All right, you know what that means? It's the downbeat portion of the show, meaning everyone left the building after anarchy in the arena, but we couldn't. And there was more, and it wasn't even, I forgot,
Starting point is 02:26:00 it wasn't even just the world title, and it wasn't even the world title. The Owen Hart Tournament Final is the main event. It was another match that I definitely didn't watch. I apologize to anyone upset. I didn't watch the next match. Well, after 45 minutes of the previous folderall, they thought, well, this will be a good time to put a six-man tag team match on with Adam Cole, Kyle O'Reilly, and Roddy Strong against Take a Shit, Josh Alexander, and our friend Kyle Feltcher. And I wrote seriously after that.
Starting point is 02:26:35 Now, even if people didn't leave you, they had to get up and piss. they had to go get a drink or something, probably eat again. I'm sure it had been days since lunch. So I can understand maybe since all of Tony's children's angles are important, you know, that, okay, put the six-man tag on that absolutely nobody bought this pay-per-view to see and give them eight to ten minutes with entrances and have a nice match and bring the people down to some kind of baseline a little bit so you can have your main event.
Starting point is 02:27:16 So instead, they had a 20 minute with entrances deal where everybody did everything. And then O'Reilly got a front face lock on Kyle and right in front of the referee, take a shit, just came in and hit Kyle with a fake forearm. He could have done a variety of things that looked like it made. contact, but he chose that. And then Kyle just muscled him up into a brain buster, boom, one, two, three. And by the way, Adam Cole's upper body now is so skinny.
Starting point is 02:27:49 It looks like it was CGI. It looked like somebody had made a rib thing for Twitter of Adam's head on like a Halloween skeleton. American baby baba. And I mean, he's still got some some, I won't say muscle, but some thickness around his thighs thick compared to the rest of him. But the upper body, what?
Starting point is 02:28:19 If he's sick, I'm so sorry at him. But it's like he's, it's science fiction level shrinking. But then that wasn't, that wasn't it. because even though they had another match where everybody did everything and it went 20 fucking minutes and blah, blah, blah. Then the heels and Lance Archer jump in and beat up the baby faces.
Starting point is 02:28:45 And then here comes Rocky Romero and Trent. And they jump on them and beat him up too. And then music plays. And Brody King and Ishii come out to the stage? That was a surprise, by the way. When the Hounds of Hell image hit, I was like, oh shit, buddy's back. That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 02:29:07 They're doing all this just for them. And that was Ishii E of Brody King. Yes, because they made the hounds of hell and the dogs never found hell. But then they part and there comes Hiroshi Tanahashi limping out. He was limping before anybody touched him. And Brody and Ishi get in a big sloppy fake. looking fight in the entranceway with some of the heels. Tana Hashi just hits one guy once and then walk to the ring.
Starting point is 02:29:45 And he was so crippled. He tried twice to roll into the ring and barely got it. And then somehow they, they dispatched the heels to where Kyle Feltcher, the only one, the only one at this point in this whole fucking group of wrestlers and runner-inners that could possibly make a fuck, right? They left him to take
Starting point is 02:30:16 Tanahashi's finish, which apparently is the guy running at him and grabbing him and jerking him down in a fucking heap. And then Adam Cole hit him with a knee. And off they went, well, hold on one, wait a minute, hold on. one, two, three, four, five, six. Six different people ran in after the match was over with.
Starting point is 02:30:45 And is Tony Khan running some type of motion picture country home for disabled Japanese wrestlers? If you were on the AEW roster and you did not do something on this event or pre-show, would you be insulted? No, actually, I'd be relieved to be. quite honest with you that my reputation would not be sullied by being a part of this but i know what you're saying everyone everyone was a part of it i mean why if i i understand that you know legends again i've said this a million time legends can draw you money in it on nostalgia theme shows and in limited quantities where it's not every show and it's special but these Japanese legends are completely unable to fucking perform.
Starting point is 02:31:45 And it's just wishful thinking and people smoke and opium. If you want to just see them in person, I'm sure there's a way to do that. But what the fuck? None of them can fucking wrestle. Ishi, Tanahashi, Oblada. It's just, it's over with, move on. Am I being too harsh? Not necessarily.
Starting point is 02:32:18 In 2025, not necessarily at all. With Adam Cole and to an extent, E.C.E., who, although he looks like he's very old, he's not that old, but he's five foot four. At Adam Cole is 102 pounds. I don't know how much he weighs. If there was a division for smaller people, I think it would make more sense. And I know it sounds like it's a joke, but if there was a division for people under, can't be under 200 pounds,
Starting point is 02:32:47 it has to be like under 175 pounds. But no, but then Ishi is over 200 pounds and the poor fella can't fucking turn his head. And Tanahashi, what's the matter with him? He doesn't wrestle here regularly, but he couldn't walk straight. He's now the president of New Japan, I believe. Okay, well, then let him come out in a suit
Starting point is 02:33:09 and sign some contracts. I, you, you keep up better than I do, is he crippled too? Look, every single person that worked for New Japan during those years is banged up badly, whether it's Okada, who may not be as banged up as bad as some of these other guys, even though obviously it's a different style he's working now. Ishii, Tanahashi's done. I mean, he's retired pretty much.
Starting point is 02:33:41 But a lot of these guys, I mean, we heard again that Abushi's training for a comeback. Naido's out. I mean, all those guys from that generation have all gone down hard. And, you know, Kenny Omega, although he got out a little earlier to go to AEW. He was there during those peak years and he was one of those guys just killing his body. You know, it's going to be a rough, it's going to be a rough time for a lot of people. and, you know, Japanese wrestling, an entire crop of, like, the, I guess, the new legends from that previous group of people, they're all banged up really badly. And, of course, I wasn't laughing at Ibushi's misfortune. I was laughing at, I just remembered that Tony Khan is still paying him.
Starting point is 02:34:30 He signed him to a contract because he was Kenny's friend. and before the guy had ever done anything, he broke both his ankles spectacularly, underwent multiple surgeries. And it's been, what, a year and a half? And I think he signed to a two or three year contract. He was with, um, it wasn't, I don't even know if it's technically NXT.
Starting point is 02:34:51 When WWE did their cruiserweight, it wasn't cruiserweight, light heavyweight classic, World Cruiserweight Classic, whatever it was. And they had all these people that were on the Indies at that time before AEW. They got a bushy. And he was jacked. He was ripped. He was cut.
Starting point is 02:35:10 Did all this impressive stuff. The next time I see him on American TV on AEW, he's completely out of shape. Looks like he doesn't know where he is. So then you're like, okay, let's see the work. And then the work wasn't there. And then he got a contract. And then he went home.
Starting point is 02:35:29 And then on some indie show or whatever he was working, and he broke both of his feet. and that was the last we heard of him. But he may be coming back. That whole generation of Japanese wrestlers, they beat up their body and they're paying the price a little younger than a lot of people used to. Well, no, now they beat up their body
Starting point is 02:35:48 and now Tony is paying the price. And they're spreading the word. Hey, we got a fucking great deal over here. Anyway, speaking of great deal, we've had a great deal of talk to get to the main event for the Owen Hart Tournament Cup and the chance to face the world champion Dick the Boozer of the Boor Horseman
Starting point is 02:36:11 at the stadium show in Texas. Hang nail Adam Page and Will Osprey. And I'll save the finish. But boy, howdy, just when you thought they were going to do something that made some sense and everything pointed to it, that flies out the window. So the main event started,
Starting point is 02:36:42 the entrances started three hours and 40 minutes into the pay-per-view. And they gave Osprey an entrance with stained glass and lighting effects and his voiceover playing in the arena, echoing the nonsense promo that they did last week. I am the greatest to you. You weren't lying. You said that Dave Meltzer said it
Starting point is 02:37:08 and I hadn't read anything that he had reviewed about it yet. It's not just him. There is a fan base who believed that was like one of the greatest promos of all time, one of the greatest face-to-face segments ever.
Starting point is 02:37:19 That's amazing. That was awful. And endless. Well, it wasn't the I have a dream speech, but they played it here like it was. It was the I have a drink speech. And I think he had
Starting point is 02:37:32 another because here he came Osprey and lyric Valkyri or whatever are going to the same costumer they come out in feathers they should be quacking look like when Jimmy Hard had to wear the
Starting point is 02:37:48 San Diego chicken outfit so they ring the bell for this match and suddenly after four hours of complete shit two guys are trying to wrestle everybody's tired after everything has been proven to be phony cartoon bullshit
Starting point is 02:38:11 then they go out there and they start trying to have a match to the best of their ability and I will put it over as far as physically these are two of the better and more credible guys in the ring on the roster. Both of them can do nice spots. Both of them need somebody else leading the match to put together something that doesn't reek of indie and is, you know, a higher level. Osprey has the problem with the voice and the more that you hear him talk, the less you like him, but he's got fire.
Starting point is 02:38:56 He could be produced. And unfortunately, Page, I think he's a shit promo and you don't believe him. He doesn't seem to have a pleasing personality to begin with. He was never a smiling baby face, except when he was interacting with the goddamn job guys in the dork order. But he's like a lot of these guys. You like him until you know him better and realize that he's a douche and realize. he's a douche in real life. But they had a higher level of athleticism
Starting point is 02:39:38 and professionalism and executing the moves here to aware that you wouldn't be embarrassed to show somebody this like you would the anarchy and the arena match or some of their other goofball indie shit, thumbtacks, whatever. But still this match, match as a pay-per-view main event, if you want to see a banger of a match after four fucking hours of other alleged bangers, then that's what they give you here. But as a money-drawn
Starting point is 02:40:12 money match on a program, if they're going to do baby face and baby face, these guys aren't really smart enough to have that match. They just do their moves back and forth to each other, regardless of who's supposed to be a baby face or a heel or a baby face. Or a baby face. or a baby face. It's going to be the same thing. Verbly, as we've seen, they can't cut the promo. This is for people who want to see guys
Starting point is 02:40:40 do moves and talk about who's going to be the one to be the greatest of all time and it works harder than the other guy, brov. And so, but they did it over and over for 40 fucking minutes
Starting point is 02:40:57 to the point where nothing beats anybody, and then they take you out of the athletic presentation because it's so ridiculous. And that's a thing when we did the talent roster and part of it so far, and people say, oh, he won't keep Kenny? How dare he? At least Kenny, the people like him and blah, blah, blah,
Starting point is 02:41:26 he won't keep Kenny. I said, well, between Kenny and Osprey, you've got two trained chimpanzees doing the same tricks. So you keep the younger, fresher chimpanzee. And that's Osprey, who I believed until, until I saw different that was going to win this thing and go on to win the title in the stadium.
Starting point is 02:41:53 Because it made the most sense, which is probably why it's not happening. But between, as I said, Kenny and Osprey here, how, if you're looking ahead to build a roster two, three years, five years, how could Kenny help a wrestling promotion? Wrestling? He's older. He's had bad injuries and his matches always looked like he was playing a video game. And Osprey, at least, is fresher and younger and more accomplished and less overly douchey. with the pointing and the face making it, et cetera.
Starting point is 02:42:34 But could Kenny help in other ways? Promos? He can teach people to do promos or do promos of it. Have you ever, Brian, call me a great Kenny Omega promo. No, I've actually always told you. I like him in the ring and I'm not a fan of his promos at all. Okay. I think they're counterproductive.
Starting point is 02:43:01 Washy, counterproductive. you don't want to hear him because he's because he's a douche. Could he do commentary? Can you imagine that, Brian? Could he step into the announcer's booth? I think he's done it a couple times. Not good. A producer or an agent.
Starting point is 02:43:20 He can't put his own matches together. The last thing you'd want is he's putting somebody else's together because then you get more of the goddamn video game shit. As a talent scout, he's a shit talent picker obviously. Anybody remember Michael Nakazawa or the Japanese indie girls that he has spent Tony Kahn's money on
Starting point is 02:43:47 ad nauseum over the last six years. That's his talent eye. As a trainer, as a trainer, he's been involved in the most disrespectful bullshit that has ever been done in wrestling, especially over the last number of years. He's been an embarrassment from the start with the sex dolls and the eight-year-old girls.
Starting point is 02:44:11 And the last thing that you would want is this bitch teaching young wrestlers how to not respect the business. Now, Osprey, I don't know that he's any different because he actually said in that interview here recently, well, brough, AEW smokes the WWE and every aspect of race. wrestling, except the part about making money and getting big numbers of people to watch it. But because he's of that mindset that, oh, we've got to do the poison run, mate. But he's 10 years younger and he's a lot newer and maybe you could teach him something. But now that I'm going to tear down what they did with this, I wanted to say that this match by far was not perfect.
Starting point is 02:45:00 But at least to show it to somebody, you wouldn't be embarrassed. They're athletic, the shit's crisper. They didn't use furniture to the ridiculous degree. There were no scissors, phony props, exploding shit. With this, there's something you could build on the sports-based presentation that we were promised at the beginning with athletes. But the problem becomes that you have athletes with minds like these guys that can't get them out of the indie level bullshit
Starting point is 02:45:34 and into the greater world. And also after four hours of the other shit has taken the wind out of everything for them to go out there and go 40 more fucking minutes and kick out of every goddamn thing in the world. They've got a story that's the same as every other indie fucking match story. I'm the greatest hottest worker.
Starting point is 02:46:00 No, it's me. Let's fight. And they haven't even had a misunderstanding. I want you at your best. Yes. Make sure you train and get eight hours of sleep. And they don't even have misunderstandings. They don't get the message wrong or somebody misinterpreted something. They just, oh, we haven't done this one yet, so let's book it.
Starting point is 02:46:21 So at 25 minutes into the match, I'm going to go through some of the high points. 25 minutes into the match, Osprey gives page a power bomb on the apron and then Stiles clashes him off the apron onto the floor. Now, they didn't land just flat, but as a matter of fact, Osprey could have blown his own left knee out the way he landed if he hadn't been lucky. But then they sold that. Osprey rolled in at eight.
Starting point is 02:46:50 Page got up and rolled in at nine and a half. Osprey hits a big Cody cutter on him. Two count. And then Osprey hit his elbow finish. Two count. After the guy's been styles clashed off the apron on. onto the floor and hit with two different finishes. Tuckout.
Starting point is 02:47:12 Then Osprey beats up on Adam Page and the referee pulls him back and they argue. And then Osprey boots Paige off the apron onto the desk, bashes his head on the desk, goes for a pedigree on the desk. Page tries to backdrop him and the desk breaks out from under him and they fall on a heap and page falls on top of Osprey. So then after they sell it for a while, instead of moving on, Paige picks Osprey up and dead-is him on the wreckage
Starting point is 02:47:46 to let everybody know what they were trying to do before the table didn't cooperate. And now bear in mind both of these guys in talking about this match called Stiles Clash off the apron and then 15 more minutes of match. and somebody let him do it. So at that point, now Paige is fine.
Starting point is 02:48:10 And he went for the buckshot, but Osprey fell. And, you know, so he couldn't deliver it. But then Osprey stood up and pulled off his elbow pad. Like, I'm taking off the gloves now. So then Paige pulled off his elbow sleeve. And they're like two gunfighters facing each other out in the street at high noon. The problem is Paige is ready to do
Starting point is 02:48:40 the buckshot and to do his move, Osprey has to run at the guy and put his elbow up and hit him with it. Well, when they both charge, Paige hits the buckshot, but fucking Osprey had just run right into it. He didn't try to do the elbow and cover
Starting point is 02:49:02 two count and then Tony Chivani said, well, it looked to me like Osprey just ran right into it. Because I think Taz was trying to say he didn't have time to draw his elbow back or whatever, trying to cover. And Tony's out of me and looked like he just ran right into it. So then Page tried another buckshot. And when he landed, Osprey hit his elbow.
Starting point is 02:49:31 And for the first time ever, that elbow looked great because the guy was standing on his feet and had a way to take a fucking bump. but then he's spinning suplex two count then osprey went for the elbow while page was on his knees and osprey her page collapsed and osprey went over the top of him with the elbow and osprey sold missing the elbow why and then i wrote if osprey doesn't win this soon he's dead he's done everything he's done everything he knows multiple times to page
Starting point is 02:50:09 page is not only as over as he's ever going to be he's not as over as he once was and osprey still has a chance to be the guy that's what i'm noting here and then osprey spends forever while his opponent is helpless pointing at him to now try to start impersonating fucking kenny and he hit kennie's knee it better than kenny does then he picked him up for the one-winged fairy like Kenny does. But Paige slipped out of that and dropped fucking Osprey on his head. Cover one, two, leg on the ropes. I wrote more question mark. And then finally each one of them foiled the other one.
Starting point is 02:50:59 And Paige out of nowhere hit a buckshot lariat cover. One, two, three. they beat will osprey page is the one who gets the title match with moxley page can't win the title then we're just in a shittier places we are with moxley a fucking guy that's not over that nobody gives a shit about that can't fucking talk has the title again and why do this to Osprey. He did everything he knows and he can't beat this guy. He can't beat Adam Page.
Starting point is 02:51:43 How is he ever going to be the guy when he can't beat this guy? 40 minutes bell to bell plus entrances. And they beat Will Osprey with Adam Page in a baby face match fair and square. So maybe Osprey doesn't have to worry about that fucking long, flight every week too much longer because there's not going to be that much call for his services after another baby face withstood everything he could possibly do for 45
Starting point is 02:52:17 fucking minutes and then beat him without cheating one, two, three. Jesus, age fucking Christ. Are you still there? Yeah, two questions for you. One, what do you do now with Moxley versus Adam Page? and two, hypothetically, because we don't know what Tony Con thinks about all this,
Starting point is 02:52:41 Will Osprey's been a really great cheerleader for the company publicly, and he's also complained about his flights because he doesn't want to move over here. Are you hesitant as a promoter, as a booker to make someone your top guy if they won't come live over here in the States? Does it matter? He's been there for a year or whatever,
Starting point is 02:53:04 it hadn't mattered so far they don't run house shows as a matter of fact i think that sometimes maybe the less you see of osprey definitely the less you hear of him the the the better of the idea is in your head but why spend all this money why sign the guy why they think they've pushed him they don't realize they've kind of buried him too but they haven't buried him as badly until now as as all the other guys on the roster. You're paying him a couple million bucks. All he has to do is come to work once a week, maybe. And he's fresh and he's athletic,
Starting point is 02:53:44 and he could be the guy instead of, again, this, what a punk call him, empty-headed dipshit, Adam Page, that boring shit over and over again. Or Moxley has ruined the world championship in this company, if that's even possible. and you buy his three high-priced acquisitions at the same time, as I recall, were Osprey, Mercedes, and Okada, right?
Starting point is 02:54:21 They all pretty much the same time. Yeah. So two of those have been a drastic fucking abysmal failure, Mercedes and Okada, but you had a chance to make you money back on this guy. And now not only can he beat the fucking top heels, he can't beat the other fucking baby face that ain't going to do any business for you that you ain't already doing.
Starting point is 02:54:49 The people that are going to come and pay to see Adam Page are already coming to pay to see everything else. He's part of the package with that base audience. But you could mark it, I don't care anymore do what you want to do Tony but this what the fuck pay all these guys to millions of dollars to in Okada's case have lazy nothing matches in Mercedes's case have her diddle the little man in the boat for herself all across your programming because she thinks she's a goddamn superstar she's Madonna or something that's been
Starting point is 02:55:29 rotten. And the one guy that you could actually use that you could get something out of, you've completely dumbed him out of goddamn position. So I don't know what the fuck they're doing. Well, we'll see what happens. It's interesting if they did all this for Adam Page. But we'll see what happens at Osprey and we'll see what happens at all in Texas. That was AW double or nothing. What if Tony Khan took some of this money that he spends on wrestlers And just went to the shop app And supported small businesses all across the land That would be a wonderful thing
Starting point is 02:56:12 What if he had a business I guess he does What if he had a business that people wanted to give him money to And he had product to sell He may want to set up an online store With our friends at Shopify Well you know what he ought to do is he ought to sell Well, although again, I guess then they'd bring him in for human trafficking.
Starting point is 02:56:32 You ought to sell some of the wrestlers on his roster he's not using. Certainly he could give people discounts, but folks, again, if you have a business, then Shopify could help you, but you know how Shopify can help you even more? If you don't have a business, if you've got an idea or a dream like Tony Khan once had, if Tony Khan had gone to Shopify, well then right now, instead of us screaming, please, Tony, stop this. We'd be doing that because he'd be making all kinds of money with a quality product
Starting point is 02:57:04 and a successful platform on which to market said product because Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world. 10% of all the e-commerce in the United States, guess who's on top of it, Shopify? And they're holding it like a stranglehold. and they're increasing their reach. They're spreading over the land like a pestilence and soon.
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Starting point is 02:57:56 If you need a hand with everyday task like enhancing product images, you know they could airbrush a picture of your wife. It looks like she doesn't have that wart on her left cheek. They enhance product images. They write product descriptions. They can write a description to your wife that would make even her sound appealing.
Starting point is 02:58:16 Listen, I don't know what you're focusing on here. And they can generate discount codes for your wife, apparently, if you'd like to market her. You can't market it. your wife that's against the rules and the protocols of Shopify, but if you're allowed to sell legally that you have the rights to or have made yourself, Shopify is there for you. I read it in a mirror and got it backwards.
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Starting point is 02:59:33 of being a successful entrepreneur and working out of your home and telling other people what to do on a daily basis, including possibly members of your own family. And hearing that noise a lot, you can do all those things.
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Starting point is 03:00:16 Again, websites, product descriptions, email and social media campaigns, they're going to start your business from scratch, and they're going to run it until the wheels fall off, and then you're going to be rich and successful and retired on a deserted island until one of these days they'll call you back into service, and you because of the little nodule implanted at the base of your skull, you will have no choice but to come back.
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Starting point is 03:01:05 Jim, let's get a few things in here before we wrap things up this week. News breaking as we are recording. Uh-oh. Rick Derringer passes away at 77 years old. No! Best known for Hang-on Sloopy!
Starting point is 03:01:20 And of course, rock and roll. Hucci Koo, and I guess we could add real American, passed away Monday, May 26th, peacefully in his sleep. Does everybody know that Rick Derringer, the rock and roll icon and guitarist and member of the Edgar Winter Group and et cetera wrote Hulk Hogan's Real American, not his beer. He didn't write the beer. He wrote the song, I am a real American, but we can't hold that against Rick, because he also did rock and roll hoochie co.
Starting point is 03:01:51 He also did Demolition Steam Song. That's right. Which was a bad, again, as a kid who grew up in that area, it was a badass theme song. Well, I hate to hear that about Rick, because I thought that he would rock and roll and roachy co for years and years and years. I was, when I was 14, he was 28. Well, that just doesn't seem right at all. Did you always know that it was Sloopy?
Starting point is 03:02:19 Did you ever think it was Snoopy? No, I always do. Because there were two songs at that period of time, the ballad of Snoopy and the Red Baron and Hang on Sloopy. But Snoopy, I don't care what your daddy do, because everybody here knows that I'm in love with you. At one point, I thought it was Soupy Sales, but I didn't think it was Snoopy.
Starting point is 03:02:43 Hang on Soupy? Hang on, hang on Soupy. Soupy, hang on. Bye, bam. Jim, let's get to a topic that a lot of listeners have sent in questions about and there's a couple things here I have. I have some audio from Tony Con at the scrum afterwards. Oh, good Lord. I must say he looks put together. What time did that scrum start? I don't know, but he seems like he's kind of, he doesn't look as wacky as he
Starting point is 03:03:08 usually does, so credit to him there for looking like he's together. But he spoke about something, he was asked a question about something that there may be something too. And let's talk about it. And I have a few other things here about it. Let's go to this audio. I'm not sure who asked the question. We'll find out now. Mark Oak 101.15 FM Las Vegas. How are you feeling about other companies scheduling events on top of and around yours on a consistent basis? It's pretty consistent. I'd say it's the most consistent event head-to-head scheduling I've seen since Jim Crockett promotions. Saw a lot of scheduling that went that way. and I can tell you this will go a lot differently than that did, Mark.
Starting point is 03:03:56 Thank you for asking. I appreciate you all being here. Well, there it is. How is it going to go any differently that it did before? He can't do anything about it. Before we even address that, newsbreaking also in the last day or so, all in Texas, of course, July 12, 2025, 2 p.m. Central start time. WWE has announced
Starting point is 03:04:23 the NXT Great American Bash will take place on July 12th at center stage in Atlanta and it will be going head to head with all in Texas this is on a weekend where there's also Saturday night's main event as well as the all-female
Starting point is 03:04:42 pay-per-view or premium live event evolution so what do you think about the idea the WWE is aggressively running after, running after, running against Tony Khan whenever he has anything going on. I mean, they did it here. There was an NXT event this weekend as well,
Starting point is 03:05:02 but what do you think about that? Well, here's the thing, like I said earlier, he's not going to do anything about it because he can't, because they can do that. It's not like he can file suit against him. You can't run. So it's not going to turn out any differently. And to be honest, that's not,
Starting point is 03:05:19 just running house shows are in the same market or, you know, that type of thing. That's not necessarily what killed Jim Crockett, nor even the running the pay-per-view or the free TV opposite the pay-per-view. That didn't help any. It hurts some, but that wasn't specifically all of it. He's going to have to put up with that. Now, here's the thing. I don't think they're going to do it, you know, if it doesn't make any sense. at all whatsoever for them to do something.
Starting point is 03:05:53 They're running center stage, which the rent is negligible, and they're going to broadcast through their own facilities and et cetera. So they're not spending a ton of money, and they're going to make money on that show, but it's going to be on the air against the big pay-per-view from Texas, whether that AW has a small and devoted diehard fan base, it's going to buy those paper views and et cetera. I don't know whether that's going to have anything in the terms of effect on their core
Starting point is 03:06:29 business or not, the big pay-per-view versus NXT. But WWE can and probably will if they run head-to-head against them in a specific market, take some ticket sales away from them because how much money do people have? so you knock off some of the casuals, but still for the people who want to see AEW, they're going to pick that over WW. For everybody else, they're going to pick WW, because they're not even really going to know about AEW.
Starting point is 03:07:00 But it's just, if he thinks he's going to, he's not going to win this, he's not going to somehow like, see, I told you we'd get to draw a bigger gate or, you know, do a bigger gross on the show or whatever. he's not going to win anything. So he shouldn't really be saying it's not going to come out the same way. I can see him saying, well, that shows that they're concerned about us.
Starting point is 03:07:24 But I think now at this point they're just peppered a downed opponent. Now they want to have a little fun and maybe, you know, run out the clock and tire their guy out, which I still think that many of, and in hindsight, can anybody prove me wrong that the WWB bid up several of the talents that Tony won just to make him spend more fucking money. So that's what I think about that. In terms of victories, you could always have small victories.
Starting point is 03:08:03 And Crockett was able to, with Turner, do Clash of the Champions against WrestleMania 4, and then that started a trend. What could Tony do right now if he wanted to say, okay, I'll do something of you guys, what could he do to affect them and one of their money-making schemes? There isn't anything. See, the people forget that in the Monday Night Wars and in the 80s,
Starting point is 03:08:32 with the clash of champions going against the pay-per-views or whatever, the companies were fairly close. There was a period in between the 80s and the attitude era where they were miles away. and when WCW signed Hulk Hogan and didn't make it appreciable dent in any
Starting point is 03:08:57 type of business aspect of anything the WWF was doing when they're close you can do shit like that you can run the same market you can run opposing paper views and TV specials and you can have a direct impact
Starting point is 03:09:13 on the other side people forget that yes you know, the clash of champions was the response for Vince getting Crockett knocked off a pay-per-view. But the clash of champions took a significant number of million people away from potentially watching WrestleMania at a point in time where you couldn't just easily watch both things or order this and that. and so there was damage being done on both sides and in the attitude era also because the sides were close. This is not close.
Starting point is 03:09:50 What the fight? Where is Summer, where is SummerSlam? I've gone blank now this year, the two-night SummerSlam. I think it's over here in New Jersey. New Jersey. Okay, so where is, what's Tony Kahn going to run to hurt SummerSlam in Jersey? A free show. in the parking lot.
Starting point is 03:10:14 A free show and he couldn't hurt SummerSlam if he ran a free show in the parking lot of the goddamn stadium they're having SummerSlam in. You can only hope to hurt SummerSlam really with the locals if you do that because if people are flying in and there's a lot of those people, they're going to SummerSlam. I mean, that's what I'm saying is that there's nothing at the point that the WWE's at right now,
Starting point is 03:10:39 there's nothing that Tony can do. to put something against one of their big shows, either pay-per-view or television or whatever, to hurt it that badly. Because Tony's television show on Saturday nights does record low ratings on free cable network television whenever they do a fucking pay-per-view in the WWE. It kills the fucking viewership.
Starting point is 03:11:06 So, no, I don't think that Tony can do anything, really. Do you? what would it be? I mean, he's got money and he can use his money quicker and easier than they can. Well, I mean, that's the thing is he's got enough money.
Starting point is 03:11:23 He could run some other type of event against the WW shows and probably do more damage because his wrestling shows aren't going to damage their crowds or their pay-per-views. Maybe if he brought in a goddamn professional football team
Starting point is 03:11:36 or something. Or maybe if he just, you know, hired fucking, thugs off the street go and beat the wrestlers up. That might be a better spending of money than booking a goddamn wrestling show against him because he can't get people to as many people as he had before
Starting point is 03:11:54 to just watch his shows when there's no opposition. They're just on. So should anyone who's running AEW right now, anyone who's running opposition to WWE, a company that cares enough about you, they're trying to run against you every chance they have, should he make the ticket price is an issue? Should he exploit the fact that
Starting point is 03:12:18 WWE is just trying to take all your money for everything actually show how much it costs to go to one versus the other? Should that be a part of the marketing? I don't know if I would... I don't know if I'd break down a lot of details you might be doing advertising for the goddamn for the other side, but I think making an issue of,
Starting point is 03:12:40 hey, we are, we're not only providing great world-class wrestling, but also we don't want to, can't say, you know, rape our fans. We don't want to price gouge our fans. We want everybody to be able to come and experience the wonderful live events that we put on or whatever the fuck. So yes, some way or another, you could indict the WWE for just being a ridiculous amount of money to spend on any entertainment. but that again...
Starting point is 03:13:15 You want to know how you hurt WWE? You have Shad Khan offer Nick Con $50 million to jump to AEW. Oh, just himself. Just himself. Come run this company for my son. You know, God damn it? That's the one thing that... It would start a...
Starting point is 03:13:32 It wouldn't happen overnight. Even if Tony Con quickly got it, everything's going to take time from this point forward, but you need someone who can come up with the plan and come up with the revenue sources. Well, and now, but how much money is Nick Con making now? We say $50 million like that's just fantasy land, but he might be close to that right now.
Starting point is 03:13:53 But if there was an amount of money that Shad would give Tony, that Tony could say Nick Conn come and run this company for me, then we would be having a different conversation about whether or not Tony could do anything to disrupt the WWE. And you know what else? Tony and Nick would become best friends. Well, and they wouldn't have to change the monograms in the bathroom.
Starting point is 03:14:20 I guess not. But, but I mean, you know, and that's the thing because I wasn't even thinking grand enough. Remember when they were first starting out and I said, my God, your father's a billionaire instead of signing all these goddamn goofballs from the outlaws, go after buyout contracts of people that are not
Starting point is 03:14:41 affiliated with the WWE but under any other contract any other promoter ought to be open for business to talk to a billionaire and buy he could have bought Jacob Fatu at that point in time. He could have bought any of these companies for a few million dollars. But that's the point is that if he really was going to spend the money to
Starting point is 03:15:08 combat and or eventually take over from the WWE then he would have gone for quality talent at the start and I wasn't even thinking about if you'd have made a play with Nick Conn come here, run this
Starting point is 03:15:24 whole thing, hire people to book it and write it and produce the television show and shoot the show and I'll give you the money and I'm going to have fun because I own everything but you're going to run me a real company while Vince was still over there and if this had been done five years ago, we might be having a different conversation about who the number one company was. Because I also think AEW kind of needs that image change.
Starting point is 03:15:54 I think if you all of a sudden showed there was someone serious running it, it would change to perception that some fans have with AEW, but also that a lot of wrestlers have gained with AEW since ADW first started and you first saw Tony and you heard about him. And then you've kind of watched him over the last five years. Like I said, he looks really put together here at the scrum. And hopefully that's a good thing because he has to win over wrestlers who have heard about chaos, a wacky boss, strange hugs, everyone doing whatever they want on these shows, production meeting issues, like all these things.
Starting point is 03:16:32 All that perception has to change. and even if Tony changed it, the perception is it's still Tony. And it always will be. Again, we're hypothetically thinking here, but... Well, yeah, but see, that's the thing is that how many sponsors or, you know, co-promotions have they missed out on
Starting point is 03:16:54 or that we haven't heard about because there were no real serious people there at the company today? I mean, when one of the Buccaroos wives was doing merchandise and does Tony talk to the sponsors himself? If so, who is it? And do major companies
Starting point is 03:17:12 think, what the fuck is going on here with these people? If there was a Nick Conn influence where rational, serious, legitimate experienced people that do these type of things, we're doing these type of things with all that money behind them?
Starting point is 03:17:29 I mean, that's been the whole thing. They've always been funded. We didn't realize. at the start that Tony would spend literally hundreds of millions of dollars to get to this point. But if they had used the money that they had access to from the start, instead of trying to fulfill Tony's adolescent fantasies, pick the right eight people to put on the talent roster and the two people to put in charge and they pick the six people that they're going to work. If it had been put together with no thought to money but thought to professionalism,
Starting point is 03:18:10 this could have been a whole different story. Well, we'll see what happens going forward with that. Of course, if you're Tony Kahn, you may want to sue. Well, in that case, he's missed the boat because the man that he should have called a long time ago to sue the stork that brought him for carrying dope is already otherwise occupied, helping helping find folks in the cult of
Starting point is 03:18:36 Cornet deal with legal difficulties that they've... I'm talking about this man. Play the music. All Stephen P. New a mud show for two. They'll sue their ass.
Starting point is 03:19:11 Yes, ladies and gentlemen, that stork suing son of a bitch Stephen P. New over there in the mountaineer state of West Virginia will sue who? at Stephen P. New, he'll sue you or anybody else to get even. Get even with Stephen. Whether or not
Starting point is 03:19:29 you've been wrongfully terminated or harmed or poisoned or given cancer or crotch rot in some kind of way, these horrible, heartless corporations, these horrible jail conditions in the state of West Virginia, the opioid-addicted baby, Stephen P.new at new law office.com
Starting point is 03:19:47 87750, Steve, has been helping people out from way back, and they can help you too if you call them on the phone. Steven's waiting to take your call right now. He's got nothing else to do, but help people in their time of need. 87750, Steve, that fucking stork. Well, Jim, let's get one more thing here. Before we get out of here, we ran a little along with the reviews. We'll have more questions and fun and hilarity next week.
Starting point is 03:20:17 but a ton of listeners once again have sent this over. What are your thoughts on Rick Flair's new line of alcoholic drinks entitled Rick Flair Spirits? As one of the listeners here, Seth emailed in, this is after Wu Energy Drink and Wu Wings. Now Rick Flair Spirits. Rick Flair's line of drunks, I mean drinks. I have a list here.
Starting point is 03:20:47 of the drinks they have, they now have Flair vodka, they have Flair gin, they have Flair bourbon, they have Flair tequila, and they have Wooski. Wooski.
Starting point is 03:21:04 Jim, what are your thoughts on someone putting up money for Rick Flair to have an alcohol? Is he the ultimate sponsor for an alcohol company, or is he the exact last person you want? Well, I'm not sure. Yes, our current spokesman, it was just several years ago that all the medical professionals told him quit drinking or he would die.
Starting point is 03:21:24 Now he can sell you some alcohol. The thing that I'm confused about, I understand there's corporate tie-ins and Rick Flair is a name and a brand, a lifestyle. And you've got the woo wings, and you've got the woo-weed, and you've got the woo-wiskey even. but is it usual even Connor McGregor has a vodka and the rock has tequila but but is it normal for the same the same entity to sponsor or be have their name attached to every goddamn alcoholic drink in the bar because I mean we make bourbon here in Kentucky right but they're noted for the bourbon whiskey from Kentucky that we don't have like vodka distilleries here.
Starting point is 03:22:17 But in Russia, in Mother Russia, you know, the home office of the United States now, they got the vodka, but they don't do the bourbon whiskey, but Flair's got, he's got whiskey, he's got gin, he's got beer, he's got fucking vodka, he's got one bourbon, one scotch, one beer. Is that normal, Brian, for any celebrity involvement in spirits? Just, let's do the whole goddamn wall.
Starting point is 03:22:45 Certainly a hard launch. We'll get them that. Where you go from here? How are you going to introduce from here? Wine. Get a sake. Oh, well, after what they had to edit out of the Kill Tony, Rick Flair, I don't know if they want them talking about anything with Asian people right now.
Starting point is 03:23:01 Oh, well, and what do they drink in Egypt? That's, you know, that one, that one is funny. I don't know what they drink, but that would be a natural feud, of course. not necessarily something he would want to embrace, but a feud. Because they were doing fine with the whiskey and the gin until the Egyptian showed up. Do you think this is a better or worse idea than Rick Flair behind a lending company?
Starting point is 03:23:27 Flair spirits. I mean, maybe they're thinking it because of the natural jocularity that can be had from conflating the two things, that maybe that will increase the brand awareness and everybody will be talking about it and joking about it. such as the Rick Flair North Carolina lottery ticket where he endorsed that and, you know,
Starting point is 03:23:53 the boys, the joke was that every ticket is guaranteed to win $5,000, but they cost $10,000 each. Maybe this is, you know, you can poison your liver in the same manner as your idol Rick Flair. And by the way,
Starting point is 03:24:10 apparently there was a company called Flair Bourbon, but F-L-A-R-E-R-E. but if you Google Flair Bourbon with the Rick Flair Spelley, it goes to Flair Bourbon, the other one. So now they're a competitor on the market with a similar name. Do you think they're opening themselves up to a lawsuit already? We'll see, but good luck, Rick Flair, with your brand new line of liquors.
Starting point is 03:24:34 Rick Flair's wines and spirits. What about some Rick Flair ripple? You think we could get some Rick Flair ripple? We're about a year away from that. And then he could combine some with his Rick Flair champagne and call it shampple. How far are we away from Rick Flair, like just trying to get you to buy gold and silver? I think that's why he's wearing those suits. When he walks in the room for $500, you can just pull an ounce off of him.
Starting point is 03:25:01 I'm Rick Flair. I want to show you this coin. All right, well, with that, where is this thing? Where is it going? Where has it been? Where are we? With that, the drive-thru is closed. That was so gentle. All right.
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