Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 403

Episode Date: August 2, 2025

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Hello again, friends. Our chuckling friends and all of our friends, you are our friends indeed. Welcome back to another edition of Jim Cornedge Drive-Thru here, AKA Friends, here in the hottest summer, at least this year. Last year was pretty hot too. Actually, it's just another hot day, and it's only going to get hotter today with hot wrestling talk. I'm your host, the great Brian last. And here he is, the man delivering the heat, the leader of the cult of Cornette, Mr. Jim Cornett.

I'm sorry Brian I couldn't hear you I'm down on my knees hold on let me get back up here I'm down on my knees just begging and a pleading and urging and cajoling the the next two days to be over with because I don't know about you up there but in two days from now the heat wave it's going to break we're having a heat wave a tropical heat wave well it's going to go away we're going to have highs in the 80s with dew points in the 50s instead of highs in the 90s with dew points in the 80s. We got 80 degree dew points here in the metro Louisville area all around the big radar viewing area they have on my WDRB weather. And it's like it's a swamp. It's a swamp. When you open the door to walk outside, you hear Creedons Clearwater revival music. Disgustifying as well.

what it is. So if you get what we're going to get in two more days and then you'll get it a day later, I'll be down on the corner. Then you'll have some relief. All right. Well, have you checked your due point? I haven't. I know it's up there because it's one of those days. It has to be up there today. If it was ever going to be up there yesterday, today, and tomorrow are the days. Can I just be cranky here at the top of the program? I don't know whether I'm cranky. I don't know whether I'm bum-fuzzled, as Aunt Lola would say. I'm regusted. as the Kingfish would say, I don't know what to say, or as Mama Cornett used to say,

I just don't understand people. Can I elaborate Brian here at the top of the program? Maybe you can try to help me understand what's gone on. Here are the, we have a lovely audience in a cult of Cornett. And I think that we've proven, and previous clinical studies have shown, as a matter of fact, some of the surveys that we've done, that our base fan base, as they say,

is one of the more educated and the more high performing and high earning and high thinking and they're all high. Hi. Hi. Want to get high? Hi. I can't come down ever since you came.

But nevertheless, they're very level-headed people, the majority of the cult of Cornett, but as we've all said at one time or another, there's an SOB in every crowd. But what has happened in the last several days, I don't understand, I don't know if there's a moral to this story. I don't know if there's some type of conclusion to be drawn about crowd psychology. I don't know if there's a simile or a homily or a homily or. or I just don't understand people.

Everybody knows at this point, I believe that's safe to assume that Ho-Kogan passed away last week as we're sitting here now, several days ago, not even a full week. And we did a, I don't know it wasn't a, what did we do?

It wasn't a tribute nor a necessarily an obituary. It was a discussion of, his life and career as we saw it on the last program you and I did. And that was controversial already because literally as soon as the news was out, people were starting to tweet us and they were starting to put comments on a YouTube and a blah, you're not going to talk about Hogan? and some people were like, I can't wait to see them roast Hogan now that he's dead. Like we had somehow been concocting voodoo dolls

and waving spells over them on a daily basis. If I had that power, I'd use it on somebody else and do the whole world a favor. When have we ever waited until death to roast somebody? Exactly. And they're more succulent when they're still alive. The meat's fresher. But nevertheless, I'm not trying to go down that path.

Point is, some people say, oh, I can't wait to see them roast him. And some people are saying, oh, you're not going to talk about it? Three hours later, as I mentioned on the program we just did, I was in the dentist chair and I was shot full of Novakane and came home mid-thursday afternoon with a fucking numb face and got this news. So I called you as a... So we waited a respectful time until I can get my feeling back and recorded the next day and rushed it out.

And by that point, we had people scrape it. I can't believe they're not going to talk about it. Like there were some kind of vultures who, for the sake of, oh, we'll get 50,000 more views if we talk about this dead person right now and scoop everybody. we're not that crass leave that to the to the crass people we're we're higher crass than that i always wanted to be high crass first crass first crass all the way baby but it was so then after they had supposed we were going to roast him or i can't wait to see how they're going to

defend him there was that and then you know you're not going to talk about it like it was goddamn going to be so we sit here on the anchor desk and then we release the clip and brian i don't know what it said this is the point i'm going to make about human relations human beings the way the people cognitively assimilate information we released this clip talking about the life and career of hokeogan as we saw it you and me you and me and it's had well it's probably by now we're sitting here past 600,000

it certainly will be by the time people hear this views and thousands of comments but they've all listened to the same clip and there are people going

I can't believe that they actually took up for that no good son of a bitch and there people saying, you need to tell me that they couldn't even be respectful to this man when he's dead now and they still have to trash him? Yeah, we can't win.

And there are also people, I can't believe the mental gymnastics they went through to try to justify, it's the same fucking clip. It's the same fucking clap. What's the, I think, uh, I think, uh, uh, I get your thoughts on what the fuck is the matter with people? Mama Cornett didn't never say that. I think most of the listeners, the majority, the vast majority, were probably in the same boat as you and I.

You know, two people just discussing this major star beyond wrestling who just died and evaluating everything. We didn't take any sides and anything. But again, people, there are people who are so, deep-seated on one side or another that they don't even want a discussion to be had. That's the sickness. It's like you can think what you want, believe what you want,

not want to hear what you don't want to hear, but when you don't even want a discussion to take place, and again, it was on both sides. It was the people that thought, because we've had so much fun laughing at the conduct of Hulk Hogan, remember, it was a few months ago, he called him Benjamin Shelton. I mean, that just happened.

Of course we laughed at that. They thought because of the tone of those clips, we couldn't have an honest discussion about the biggest star in wrestling history. And then there are other people who thought, he's so awful. And it admitted racist, how could you give that much time to him?

You couldn't win. And I think we actually did a great job. And I think the conversation was similar probably to a lot of conversations, a lot of fans were having around the country. And there was an element of Trump botism also, I noticed, because as soon as he's associated with that subgenre of thinking, then everything else is, that's fine now.

But I just, again, and we encourage everybody, if you want to see for yourself or hear for yourself, or decide for yourself, or play with yourself while you're listening to it, it's on YouTube and look at if you don't even want to listen to the thing read some of these fucking comments and tell me how are these people listening to the same goddamn

same exact discussion and bringing away completely diverse viewpoints on the subject I saw someone post because they posted this in several videos it was like such a deep thought they had to share it

across several videos either share it or shit it if it's that deep Clearly, Brian's a Hulkomaniac. That was your takeaway from the discussion we had there. All right. Sure. And it meant a lot to you.

You can't make everyone happy, but there are plenty of people, the vast majority of the audience, were happy with the discussion, I think. Well, yeah, but some people are just, they're just contrary, contrary, as Uncle Tommy used to say. Yeah, they're quite contrary. as a matter of fact. Are you surprised by the level of coverage? Still, I mean, you know, it's Monday or it's Tuesday now, but Monday Night Raw happened yesterday,

and obviously they did something there, but it's still been in the newspapers. To a point, New York Post had, like, you know, Brutus Beefcake quotes. So they can get another article out of it. No, seriously. The last time he was in the papers up there. He was in Boston, wouldn't he?

I'm sorry. I apologize. I apologize. But, uh, completely different news cycle. Are you surprised? Again, biggest wrestling. star ever, that's one thing, but a mainstream star that people who weren't even wrestling fans knew. Are you surprised how much coverage and how big the coverage was?

I'm actually thinking, yeah, because it will talk about this here in a minute, maybe, but Ozzy in the same cycle, I don't think Ozzy Osborne didn't get this level of attention or positive. I was out of town for the first couple of days, though, so that might have hampered my consumption of everything. But I get not only because for wrestling fans, but as we mentioned, and this drives at home even more, because he got on all the mainstream talk shows, had the movie parts, had the television,

and what was my quote that people liked, when people looked at him at when they first saw him, they'd look at the fuck that. At the visual sight of him, he was magnetic, and he drew your attention. And so to anybody, and I learned this on a regional level, but it applies on a national level. When you think about it, when I was trying to get television

and for Smoky Mountain Wrestling in East Tennessee, people didn't know who the current big stars were, even though they were on TBS or WWF or whatever. They knew Ron Wright. Because that's who they grew up on, but the people they grew up on, or the people that grew up were now the ones in decision-making positions. They were heads of programming or heads of TV or heads of companies that would sponsor something. You see where I'm going with this. So to, you know, whatever period of time from, if you were of whatever age from 1983 to 1983 to 19.

1998, you know, Hulk Hogan was on everything. And now those people are in, you know, positions of power in media and, et cetera, to where that was a, you know, a legendary figure and an icon of their generation. I think that's well said. And again, major star. That's why I said it. you know, I think we kind of seen the beginning in terms of at least the wrestling end of it, although it went beyond wrestling, the coverage of Hogan and, you know,

the different viewpoints. More than likely we're going to keep seeing this replay over the next few years when some of the big legends of wrestling age out. That's a less severe way to put it, isn't it? Yeah, but I think if you think of, you know, who's left of a certain age group who or a certain star level, you know, every passing is going to become this going forward. Here are all the amazing accomplishments,

here are all the good things he did, and here's why he's terrible to the core. And I think we're going to keep seeing that over and over. Oh, well, everybody gets an opinion now, too, because they can, remember what I've always said, Brian, people were always this stupid, we just didn't have Twitter. You brought a Basie Osborne before. Any thoughts on the passing of Ozzy Osbourne?

I was surprised how many listeners actually got in touch and asked for your opinion on this. Well, yes, and that's the thing. Again, when I was on the trip, we were at the library all day, and then we'd come back and, you know, just freshen up as old people do, and it went and had dinner, and I'm going to sleep, right?

And I, you know, didn't even really pay attention to television when I was nodding off. I was reading a book. So I come home and the first thing, Stacy says, Ozzie died. I don't know, what the fuck? Because we had just seen the clips of him doing the final performance. And yes, he did it sitting down,

but he did it from a goddamn, a cool-ass-looking throne or whatever. So the point is, I was surprised because you wouldn't think that he was that near, what did you say, aging out to, a minute ago, the euphemism we used when he's just been able to do a a fucking show.

A fucking show. It's Ozzy. He did a fucking show. That was Ozzy. I don't know what you're doing. What is that? What voice is that? That's Ozzy, right?

They did the fucking show. I'm the fucking Prince of Darkness. Do you remember, did you ever see the jerky boys movie? No. It's not, I have more pride in myself than to go. even to see something titled that. Who knows what made me happen

in those aisles in the theater and when the lights go down? The jerky boys. Well, it's a bizarre movie that I can't even recall. It's been a while since seeing it if it's good or just bad, bad, bad, but Ozzy has a cameo in there. There's a few cameos.

He plays the manager of some, like, I think it was like a nightclub act who one of the jerky boys convinced to leave. And Ozzy goes like, Hey, where is he? And the guy goes, he joined the monkeys. The one line I remember The fucking monkeys

I used to watch the Osbournes. I used to watch the Osbournes Stace and I as a matter of fact Would sit and watch the Osborne I forget what night of the week it was on Or whether it was probably on multiple times Even then it was on cable

But we would sit and watch the Osbournes 20 years ago or whatever Because Ozzy was was that wacky Ozzy Osbourne Kelly and the other kid I can't remember his name they were both pudgy and fairly inoffensive and Sharon had cute dogs

it's a great tribute well they're not dead yet so I can give my unvarnished feelings that's basically where they were at and then the puppies the puppies and that was good for a couple of years

but you know I guess how the fuck old was how the fuck old is Ozzy because when you think about it with the the various I guess he's been on various types of drugs and alcohol and fucking lived on Neptune I don't know what the fuck all Ozzy Osbourne's done 76 Jesus Christ that's like it met 98 to 104

with the heat index for the average human being that hasn't swum in chemicals for their entire life? Kills all the bacteria. There's so many chemicals in there. You know, well, what they do? We need to, have they donated his body to science or donated to science fiction? But no, the music was wonderful.

The Osbournes was a nice light diversion for a couple years, but Ozzy seemed to be the charismatic one there. I'm sorry to see that he's passed on, but I'm amazed that when you think about it, that he had not only lasted this long, but sat there and remembered all the words and done all the fucking songs here a couple weeks ago.

Of course, he had an involvement with wrestling, WrestleMania 2 in Chicago, Ozzie and Captain Lou Albaano managed a British Bulldogs when they won the tag titles from the Dream Team. It's one of those weird moments where dynamite takes one of the craziest bumps of his career the camera misses it

and then the Bulldogs win and as they're down on the ground just got their ass kick but they're the champions the only attention is being paid to Ozzie and Captain Lou the Bulldogs are basically ignored while Ozzie and Captain Lou are interviewed and wasn't that the bump that Dynamite fucked himself up on it was

it wasn't the one where he went down the one where he gave up but it was the or gave out rather, but it was the one kind of that you figure was what the cause of it was. Footage emerged that after years of hearing the rumors about like, you know,

Dynamite Bluet is back here or there. The footage, it was like a house show, want to say maybe Hamilton, Ontario or somewhere in Canada, it was the Bulldogs against Morocco and Norton, I think. Yeah.

And he was just running the ropes and I think Morocco put his knee up and he went down like he'd been shot. Just it was that simple. I remember, I remember, I think that was the spot. But I've seen the clip, but it's been a while,

but they were doing a crisscross spot. He was hitting the ropes. I remember that. And I think they were going for that. But I think as he, it may have been even as he stepped over the other heel, he just something snapped or something collapsed or he just fell into that thing and just crumpled and never got back up. I think it may have happened just on the jump over.

And when he landed, blah, blah, little, them. And that was, well, nevertheless, we're getting sideways here because we're talking about Ozzy, not dynamite, but Ozzie, to me,

the biggest connection he ever had with wrestling, he didn't probably know it for probably four or five years, maybe somebody smartening him up. The Road Warrior's music. The Road Warrior pop. How much of that was the music?

The Road Warrior pop. Yeah, it was perfect. Believe me, of anybody that's going to speak to you, to you people, to the people this week or this month, I'm probably the last one left that's been standing in the ring this many times. Hearing the fucking music hit and hear the people go crazy

when they would fucking come out, it was the perfect match of music and talent. And that's what, you know, I've always appreciated about music is sometimes it may not be everybody's favorite song they want to come out to, but you have to fit the fucking presentation. And that was the perfect match. And I'm not even saying the music got them over more or they, you know, got the music over what it just matched perfectly.

That was the vibe. That was the feeling you wanted everybody to have. And it was that violent, don, down, down, and it wouldn't have worked if you'd have. And it didn't work. When they, various places would change their fucking music because they had to, rights fees, whatever. Back in the good old bootleg days, we were on, think about this, Brian, 1986, 87, it's not like they're just doing it in territories where they're on six, seven,

eight mid-market TV stations or we're on TBS. here we got 70, 80 something fucking, no, maybe 100 by the end, 100 syndicated stations, and Krog is just playing this music and they never paid anybody. How the fuck did we get away with that for so long now in retrospect? Vince, how did Vince get away in New York, doing a lot of business in California, doing business with the record companies eventually,

championship wrestling, began with thriller. It was coming to the ring the thriller. Piper's Pitt, like the unofficial theme the Piper's Pit is honorable lonely heart, like the instrumental version of it. Oh, that's right.

The biggest song of all time even then, and that was the intro to the show for like two years, two and a half years. And, you know, and the only time that they said anything about it, in Atlanta was in 89, when they bought the company and somebody figured it out that, hey, should we be playing all this shit? And then they'd still play some shit, but they wouldn't play other shit.

They made us change our music with the most obscure fucking track possible. And then they had the Steiner's coming out to Welcome to the Jungle. Yeah, as soon as they changed the Midnight Express music was Steiner's. Skyscraper's music was real music. Flying Brian came out to Def Leopard for a while, I think. Yes. it seems like we'll just selectively figure out who might not find out so you mean georgio had a problem with you guys but not eddie gilbert

the same producer would be the same problem oh and remember when dusty hill of zizi top was it lived in houston and was a big wrestling fan and when the fantastics were there of course since it was a fabulous one's homage they were doing the same thing they'd stand and Steve had done in Tennessee they did the ZZ Top style videos with the girls

and the old car and they came out to Sharp Dressed Man and Dusty Hill came as a fan one night and ended up Bobby and Tommy went over to his house and visited him with him a number of times while they were in territory whatever but they heard Dusty Hill was to you. They're dead. He's suiting us. He didn't give a shit. He didn't tell the record company, I guess.

But he was a fan. He liked it. What were we talking about? The Adventures of Ozzy and Harriet. No, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy. It's a shame that he's gone. But it's a miracle that he was here that long. What do you think of the idea of knowing your time is running out, your family knowing your time is running out and doing a show like he did. I mean, I saw clips of fans crying while he was singing, Mama, I'm Coming Home, which,

you know, actually of all the songs considering how sick he looked, that's the one that would get you. What do you think about, like, just knowing, all right, you know, like, the doctor says, I only have X amount of time. I'm going to do something with, like, all the different players throughout my career and all the different people, you know, what do you think of that? Well, it was nice. He could.

I wonder, did they know he was like this close? Oh, shit. Well, you know, hopefully we won't have to fucking postpone this date. I mean, in his health just of late, I assume they knew that if he's going to do it, he probably should do it now. And I think that was a touching thing. And from the clips that I saw also several of his bandmates were, you know, emotional and everything. So that was great, but I wonder if they knew that it was two weeks away.

They're like, shit, they might keel over on the stage. I don't know if I'd want to cut it that close or not. If I'm, if I'm two weeks away, I'm like, just don't know. No, no, no flash photography, please. G.G. Allen always said he was going to die on the stage and then he overdosed on St. Mark's place. So it didn't happen. Well, hey, but just think about it. You know, many comedians have lived that dying on stage and survived.

All right. Well, this has been Death Talk, Jim. Any thoughts on the passing of Malcolm Jamal Warner? What happened to him? I'm not even aware of this. This must have happened during your trip. He drowned, apparently saving his daughter from scary conditions in the water, and unfortunately he drowned from the Cosby Show and Malcolm and Eddie and a musician.

Well, I've heard the name. I never saw the Cosby show because that coincided with the 80s with my, I never saw 80s primetime TV until I would go search things out later. And by then we all knew about Cosby. But I've heard the name. I couldn't pick him out of a lineup. But I'm sorry to hear that that happened. Where were they?

Where there's another one of these beach undertow type of situation? I can't say for sure. I didn't read all the articles about it, but it was something like that. There's something to be said for swimming pools. With clearly marked heights and depths and things and such, I don't know if I was a beach. Well, you're a beach person,

but they don't let you swim in the radioactive waters of Long Island, do they? But like if I was in Florida, California or whatever was used to the beach, it may be one thing. But that's, just swimming out there in the middle of a bunch of water scares a fuck out of me. That was one of my final straws with Long Beach. It's like, I've been swimming in this ocean my entire life. I swim in the winter.

I'm a good swimmer. I get swimming pools too, obviously. You all let me go out there with my friends because it's too dangerous. I just saw a six-year-old with a fucking surfboard run out there. They let the surfers go out there, but they don't let the body surfers go out there. What are you saying now? They only let children go to play in the ocean now up there? They'll let anyone with a surfboard go out if it's a little rough,

but they won't want anyone who actually is in the water all the time go out. So what do you consider a little rough? Waves. Just waves. Waves. Waves. That's what you wait for. That's what you wait for all year.

When can I get some good waves? Why do you want waves? That'll jostle you about and create dangerous conditions. where you might be sucked in by an undertow and fucking flung out to see like a goddamn piece of human garbage or a fucking plastic condom that's been discarded off the edge of a fucking broken pier. It may feel good, Jim. Any thoughts on the passing of Chuck Mangiote? He don't feel so good, does he?

I did hear about the, how did you say at that one time, Chuck Manjohn? And it's terrible, but I get, how old was he? How old was Chuck Manjohn when he stopped feeling so good? Do you have that information in front of you? He had to be, because if he was feeling so good in the 70s. 84. Okay, well, I was going to, oh, geez, that's even older than I thought. Well, maybe I was going to say he might have had some kind of aneurism

from blowing that hard and fucking stressing his head off. that time, but maybe it was strengthening his lungs at the same time. But he, Chuck, we're gonna miss you, Chuck. We hope you feel better. Are there any other recent deaths you wish to talk about?

I don't know. You're the one that keeps bringing up fucking people dying one right after the other. There's a goddamn plague out here. Can't you talk about anything aspirational and uplifting? Well, of course. course, Jim, when one passes, you really just hope that your plans are followed. You don't know what's going to happen with your estate.

You won't be here. What's going to happen with your money? So while you're living, you've got to spend that money and spend it right. What about Cornett's collectibles at Jimcornett.com? Right. Well, if you just have anything left over at the end of the month, folks, and you don't know what to do with it, send it to me at Jimcornet.com. you can see the finest in merchandise from the action figures to the books and DVDs,

the certificates, the autographed photo, everything's autographed. I sign anything but a check, pal. And you can go to Jimcornette.com and see all of that and wonderful, wonderful things on sale right now and wonderful announcements to be made in the future. We're already planning just a wonderful holiday season at Jim Cornett.com. All right. Well, it's your show. Yeah.

No, it's not. Not one lick of this is my fault. Well, we'll see what happens, but Jim, as we get back to the grind, let's talk about whatever recent stuff you have watched up to now from WWE television. All right, well, basically, since we have gotten back to our regular schedule after my out-of-town, trip and obviously the the Hogan news has taken all the air out of the room in all wrestling circles especially they're continuing to do programs because we're just days away from the biggest two-night event of the summer folks summer slash summer

slam summer slam summer slam I still say Rocky Cronode a lot of trademark that for it's too late. But we'll talk about just briefly about Smackdown and Raw. Folks, don't think this is going to be a long dissertation because the point is going to be made by talking to you about what we didn't

see. But the point is, do you think is it just because I took a week or so out of town and didn't pay attention for a week or two? But is anybody clamoring for some slam like it's the like even like it's summer slam but much less like the first two night and the

the second only to wrestlemania type of oh god yes for the fans is it am i just am i just i'm not figure i'm kyle the lonely jew on christmas i mean as you're saying that i don't know what you want me to sam agreeing with you you're talking me and this being unenthusiastic about this It's not, you know, we felt the same way about WrestleMania. And again, that was a weird build. It was extra weeks. No, I didn't. I still knew it was going to be WrestleMania and there's a lot of big shit going on.

This is worse. Well, we'll talk about the lineup. What, I mean, just the anticipation, the antipation. It doesn't feel like there's too much. Maybe for a match or two, not to say that various things won't blow people away, but I don't know. I'm not really... It's been a weird year for WWE.

It's been a weird year of building things. The TV isn't as strong as it was, I don't think. This Unreal show's about the drop, and we may have to talk about that and watch that because... Drop may be a word from some of the previews I've seen. I was afraid you were going to say we're going to watch that,

but there's going to be some demand for I can already tell you right now I'll just blow one of our surprises this unreal unscripted behind the scene whatever the fuck I've already seen one instance in one of these previews where I know

the way that a couple of people involved in this thing talk or react in certain situations and it seemed to me that they weren't very surprised by the surprise so we'll go into more detail whenever we see this thing.

You know, there is a big difference between documentary and reality TV. Reality TV just in its name would almost indicate that it's real and it almost never is. It almost always is a put-on for the cameras. Again, we'll see what this is. They're very excited about it.

Tune in to watch us expose to business this week on Netflix. But there may be stuff coming out of this apparently about the scene a heel turn and various things behind the scenes. I wonder if there's anyone who would refuse to participate. It would be refreshing, but I think at this point, you know, why? Right.

Why? You're, you know. When they did the Cody and Brandy show and like the Young Bucks were like, they were there, but they were like blacked out, like their faces were like, you couldn't see who they were and everything. Well, but nobody in the WWE is allowed to have anything personal against people. It prevents anything involving their business. So that would be the difference maker there.

But let's talk about Smackdown and Raw. They did two different Hulk Hogan tributes. And there was some similarities, and there were some differences. But let's talk about that. And I didn't even, in the rush of things over the weekend and trying to catch up, I didn't even notate what towns they were.

Oh, Cleveland, they were in for Smackdown. I don't think I know what city they were in for Raw. But they opened the SmackDown show. Raw was in Detroit. Detroit. Okay. Cleveland, Detroit. But they had two fucking days in between.

Oh, Jesus Christ. That'd mean they all had to stay in Toledo? Anyway, that's a Midwest joke if you didn't get that one, Brian. So all the talent and the officials were on the stage for SmackDown. and then you saw Brian Blair, Ted DiBiase, Jimmy Hart, Bruce Pritchard, Gerald Briscoe, Sergeant Slaughter, Jim Duggan.

And I gotta be honest, I was grasping trying to think of anybody else from that generation that's still around is what I'm trying to say, not that, you know, the Bishop said he couldn't make and he was at Mondays. We'll talk about that in a minute, but in the WWF somebody tweeted out like out of the first 10

WrestleMania's there's like three or four guys still around that were in those matches or some shit and Tito and Tito's always around but he was in the first but he wasn't here first eight WrestleMania's and nine if you consider the dark match no I meant the main events

the WrestleMania main event there's only like three or four guys left. Arriva. But he wasn't in the main event. But it doesn't matter. He worked his heart out. He's still ariva. All right.

Anyway, you're going to die on this hill. I'll move on. Point is, they're all on the stage, is what I'm telling you. And Triple H was in the front and center. And he did a speech. And when at first there had been

kind of light Hogan chances, as they zoomed in because they had the graphic on the screens in the building and everything. And I just noted as I was listening to AAA speak, as they're kind of panning and or, you know, just seeing the whole stage, a lot of the guys were looking like we're enduring this, but we've been sadder.

Is that a good way maybe to say what it looked like? Because these guys weren't the contemporaries of hope, and he's probably not been the most endearing figure in his brief pop-ins over the last few years to the locker room so they weren't, I mean, Jimmy Hart, yes, his close friend and Briscoe's one of the people that discovered him 50 years ago or whatever. But did you get the impression a lot of the talent was like, okay, we're supposed to, this is like a school assembly thing. Well, you know, the first thing you look for is who's in the front line.

You know, Randy Orton was there, and Randy Orton didn't seem like that. He seemed like he actually genuinely was, I don't know, moved is the word, or just observing the memorial. But again, there's a different relationship there. His father wrestled against Hogan in the prime era. He grew up seeing Hogan. And also he, at least 20 years ago, was in the locker rooms with him. So he's kind of the bridge of those two generations where, you were with the guy every night

and it graduated to we never see this guy except when he pops in and you know fucking sells beer from what we've heard publicly you know it's not like some of the guys have hidden it

I mean Seth Rollins was very vocal about it thank God he wasn't there for this would have made it awkward but it was the contemporary wrestlers the wrestlers of today that were the ones who didn't want him around or at least not everyone

but you know that's the crowd the wrestlers who are in the the locker room what Hogan didn't feel that way. At least in WWF, I don't know about, you know, Brett may have something to say.

But, you know, like, you know, the wrestlers... Brett, Brett never, never has anything bad to say about anybody. Come on.

But I think, you know, there's a difference there. And when you see the people in that front line, you know, Jimmy Hart, Brian Blair, who, you know,

that Tampa connection, they started together, I believe. You know, it was interesting to see who was there and how they were reacting. they brought Sergeant Slaughter in.

You know, Cody front and center next to Triple H. He is supposed to be the baby face face of the company. That is the job. That is the role, you would think. That's a required position in that, you know, respect. And again, who knows what Cody thinks? Cody could probably see things like we did on the show from various perspectives. And, you know, but still, he is that guy.

that is the role and that's a role that Cody takes very seriously. You know, we talked about, and we'll talk about it a little bit later, AEW's reaction, but we talked about in the past on that last show, you know, they banned Linda Hogan. I forgot what the actual tweet was. It was a tweet from Tony saying, you join your husband and being banned. And I think that says a lot about what the modern wrestlers, especially the people that were there when AEW started.

Well, it's not just there. Actually, somebody just retweeted that, so I saw that I actually know Linda a Hogan tweet, but she had, I can't quote it chapter and verse, but she had said, well, if these people out there rioting want to be taken seriously and used a little bit possibly more racially descriptive language, not a big slur or anything, but if these people want to be taken seriously, then they can't be, because it was during some riots because of, I think, George Floyd. My point was, they didn't say you're banned for being ignorant. They said, you join your husband and being banned.

That was the first time anyone had heard that. Her residual goofiness was transferred over to him in that effect. And it inflame it. It basically made people think, oh, the whole fucking family. They began the show Friday and Monday. We'll talk about Monday shortly with the tribute. You had Triple H there. You had the video.

Do you agree? That's what they should have done. That's how Smackdown needed to begin. or what do you think? If they were going to do anything, it had to be at the start. So the placement is, the only question was what they were going to do, but whatever they did, it had to be at the start. You couldn't, because that's what everybody's waiting for

and they would zone out for anything else. They had to see what they were going to do. They had to see what they were going to say. And again, in the, and I can hear the meetings now in Stanford, or wherever they're having their meetings these days, they're saying that we can't, you know, go into his personal situation because in our universe, in the canon, as they say, of our programming,

the world that we have created, we are going to celebrate the biggest star in the business at it and how he was a mainstream icon for a lot of people and had this long career. We're not going to delve into a goddamn adjudicate his personal issues. And that's what they did. And they did it well. I thought the video, we'll talk about them both together because there's something

interesting. I'll go into in a second, but I thought they did a better job with the video on Monday because they had more time to put it together, but still the Friday video was longer. and it had the triple-H narration. And I think that, I don't know whether that's something that he wanted to do

or whether, I mean, he wanted to do it because he did it. But I don't know if it had been his idea or if someone, you know, in production who was putting this thing together said, hey, you ought to do this to make it even, you know, bigger gravitas, more important, whatever. But they just did like a seven-minute career retrospective chronologically all the way through Hall of Fame, et cetera, and then came back out. The biggest thing to me was the people in the arena.

There was, I think Detroit was better than Cleveland for him. When they did the tin bell salute, there was nice applause and got a bigger Hogan chant than the one they had going before when AAA started speaking. And then after the video, nice applause. And there was a short Hogan, Hogan. But I'm wondering, could you tell that not only was there a little heed? Because, I mean, these are the modern hardcore fans. He's not a hero to that audience.

because of his controversies and, you know, in and out of the business and exaggerations and tall tales, whatever. But also, it's just not the age group anymore. If this was Austin, would they have been, I guess what I'm saying is would there have been a big chant? because they get a bigger fucking chant when he shows up, Austin. Have we just, have we removed ourselves too far timeliness for the average wrestling fan, even if they haven't formed a negative opinion of it? I don't know, because I think Detroit, it seemed like it was a pretty strong reaction. Again, there are some...

It was stronger there. There are some booze mixed in with the Hogan chants, and you do have to, you know, equate for that. You have to take into account the idea that there are fans there that may not react at all or may stand there silently or may boo. But again, in terms of the audience, they're hitting with that video. And I thought both videos were very well done with some very interesting things put into the second video. But I think the fan base that goes to the shows, a lot of them may be people that at a minimum caught the tail end. of Hulkomania 20 years ago in WWF, maybe even WCW. Look, if I'm a fan, I'm not going to the shows,

but there are plenty of fans my age who grew up in the same era that I did, and the fans a little bit older than us who were watching Saturday night's main event in 1985. So I don't think it's outrageous to think that it's the audience. It's not like it's just all young kids going. You know, again, you can't get around the self-induced issues that, that were front and center, and some fans just never are going to look past it. And I think that was kind of the sad thing.

And I don't know, maybe it's just, you know, like Dundee used to say about me when I first started, Cornet, if we ever smarten you up, it'll kill your gimmick. Dominic on Raw Monday night was standing in the front row chewing gum and just looking around like, when will it bullshit be over with? How about Champa? through the whole thing.

How about Tamaso Champa out there on Smackdown with no shirt on? Well, but I said, did they put him out there because he's bald and people from a distance would think Triple H was out there? Could more on that a second. But the point at Dominic did not look upset is what I'm saying. And I now probably put heat on him, but he was on goddamn television. But the talent again didn't seem broken up on Raw. Except this time, Bischoff was able to be there.

there were again few people in front and center Bruce has been on on front and center on everything and they did a different I'm sorry I just said representing Vince and the role of Vince yeah yes big fat Bruce uh and they did a new video to a song who I'm sorry I

I do not know the artist or origin of but as I said they had more time it was a nice more nicely edited piece I thought a little more succinct, just because they had a little more time to work on it over the weekend, but highlights of his career, etc. And he got a better Hogan chant, but the thing that was different about Raw,

it was disorienting to me at first because they had all the talent on the stage again, all the Raw crew, and Triple H started speaking, and then I realized Triple H wasn't on stage. They played the audio of the speech he made, from Smackdown Friday night. Yeah.

It took me a second, too. I'm like, where's Triple H? I hear him. It sounds like he's saying the same thing he said the other day. Yes, and he stumbled over the same word. And then I realized, that's why I like, is Tomaso out there?

There's the people at a distance. I'll think it's him. But that was what was a little disorienting, to me, censorily, at first, is like, where the fuck is he? And then I really, when he can't be there

because he's not saying these things. So he was with us in spirit and on audio tape. But that was the, those were the tributes to, and they played a few other clips with statistics of how many times he'd been at WrestleMania or did this or that, the other thing. But those were the main two tributes, and I think they had to do that.

Because of what he meant to the company, it would have been, I'm not saying, don't acknowledge it at all, but they could have just said, oh, golly, you know, we're sorry to hear Hulk Hogan passed away, and now here's Chelsea Green. So I think they had to do that because of the level of magnitude that he presented to, you know, to the fans of the company.

You know, it's also important to note they're still in the Hulk Hogan business, although he's passed. They're going to be working with his estate. They have new action figures. They just announced. They already sold out the pre-order for the new LJ. N's. WWE heard that other companies

were making LJN style figures for like 50 bucks a pop and they said, watch this, we're going to kill you guys and they released everything for $25 trying to destroy the independent toy market as part of what it is, I think.

But those figures sold out already. There are other lines of toys they have with Mattel and there are plenty of Hulk Hogan figures in the pipeline and there are plenty out there right now. They have lots of merch up there money going to a good charity, the Hogan family.

No, money going to his family, of course. Oh, good Lord. Wait a minute now. You're going to kill their business. People say, my money's going to go to the rest of the family? Well, no, I mean, his family. Maybe Brooks doing all right. Well, that's my pull.

Whoever's running his estate, whoever it is, they're going to more than likely be in business with WWE going forward. Just like, you know, there are people who work the estate of Marilyn Monroe and James Dean and Elvis Presley. it's going to be like that. Michael Jackson. Think of everything Michael Jackson was accused of. And he still made, you know, a billion dollars since he died.

The estate did at least. So they're going to still be in the Holkogen business. He's the biggest star in company history. They had to do something along the lines of what they did, I think. What do you think about the second video having, and if it was in the first video, I just didn't see it. Hulk Hogan and Vince for a second there. Vince raising his hand at WrestleMania 9 at the end of the night

while Brett was in the back saying, what the fuck did these guys do to me? But you have a problem with that, with the idea they included a picture of Vince in there, or do you think it belongs? They had two. Again, and I might have missed it. I didn't see it on Friday,

or they might not have done it, or they might have second-guessed themselves after they didn't do it or whatever. But again, it's a bigger story. you ignore that if anybody knows who the fuck halk hoghogan is and it meant anything to them and or the w w f slash e they know vince was around for a while 40 years or so and they were synonymous with each other it's yes you know in dean martin's obituary they had plenty of pictures of him but they had to have a

picture of Jerry Lewis, just one. Lady. Whatever. Yes. No, of course. Yeah. You see, you see what I'm saying, Laney. So, no, it would have been a bigger deal if they hadn't, then people would have just called attention to it.

It happened in the world that existed at that time. So, sorry if we can't, if there's a picture of fucking John Wilk booth jumping out of the goddamn box seat at the Ford Theater. You know, we can show that, too. It's a thing that happened. Anyway. I wonder where Mr. T is.

We haven't heard anything from him. Well, he better keep his head down the way things are going because anything could happen. And Brian, you've already, what you've done here, you realize what you've done here. I haven't done anything. What are you talking about? I'll tell you what you've done here. You've established that sometimes it's easier. to make a living by dying

than it is by living and a lot of people out there are dying to make a living. It seems like you could you need to co-vice those two things. What is this delivery you got going on here? Well, no, that's the thing. You ought to get these two things together.

You shouldn't have to die to make a good living, but you shouldn't be dying to make a living. You should be living to make a real killing. It's all about making money while you're still alive to spend it and or enjoy it, feel it, put it in your pockets, stick your hands in your pockets. Play with the money in your pockets.

You'll feel a little crazy. You go a little deeper, you'll feel a little nuts. Another, we've got to figure out a way for the people to make some money out there, Brian. You see where I'm going with this? There you go. Is that where you're going? There you go, baby.

Your little biking? I'm just to doodling down the neighborhood on the sidewalk on my bike. Totally. And I'm throwing paint bombs at all the little kids with the lemonade stands because I want to ruin their business and corner the market in the lemonade business. What's a paint bomb? That's where you take paint, you put it in a fucking plastic bag, you tie it off, and you throw

it at the goddamn lemonade stand and boom, and then they're out of business. Well, once again, let's just say that we don't want to encourage any other adults to go around there with paint bombs looking for lemonade If you're about the age of leave it to beaver, this is the thing you can get away with, kids. Leave it to beaver. Here's the thing. You want to quarter the market on the lemonade stands, and then you want to buy lemonades that are only a day or two older than they're supposed to be from the store,

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And then you've quartered the market on those two-day-old lemons. And then you're getting every kid in a neighborhood from those unemployed stands to come begging for a payoff from you. And then you've got them in your network. And they're selling their trucking your lemonade all over town in their bicycles with the basket in the front. Ding, ding. Listen, listen. There you go.

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and listen to the Calliope. I'll take Oregon over. Do they still, did the kids still enjoy a good Calliope these days? No. Well, that's something else that's missing in their child. We wouldn't have all these delinquents running around on the streets if there was more

kids and calliopees. All right. The philosophy of Jim Cornett and of course most people know him for his wrestling knowledge, not his street knowledge. and on the topic of wrestling knowledge, Jim, let's return to the street known as WWE TV, whatever. What? I guess you watch both shows.

Just give it to me. Just give it to me. It's a safe move every time. Because what I'm talking about to you is I raised the point a few minutes ago that SummerSlam, it didn't seem like we're on edge waiting for this big mega event because after the on Smackdown, just so you know, it's not like we're going to completely ignore this stuff, but we want to explain to you why we're not going to go into a lot of detail either. After the Hogan promo on Smackdown, we got Logan Paul came out.

Okay, big star, got some heat. They, they don't like him. He healed on Cleveland because it's his, one of his hometowns and his weird life. but he's got great heel delivery. He's cooking along and suddenly here comes Jelly Roll. And Jelly Roll came out and, boy, he's been waiting all his life to cut a heel promo.

And I've heard a lot worse, but not cut a heel pro, but cut a baby face promo, cut a wrestling promo. And I've heard a lot worse, but I think he has been saving all this, for, you know, a while. He got it all out.

But it's Jelly Roll. And here's Logan Paul who's been knocking out all these top superstars. And so Roll told him off. But then here come Drew McIntyre. Because Drew was yet to leave the country where he apparently has been not allowed to return. We may talk about that later on. And now it's Drew. and it's Logan Paul against old jelly roll.

And Jellyroll does the old baby face thing, where he says, you don't think I came alone, do you? And he starts singing Orton's song, I hear voices in my head. See, I sound just like that. And here comes Orton for the big reveal. He was standing on the stage 10 minutes beforehand. Everybody in a building knew he was there.

Maybe he had to go to the bathroom. Well, he almost took a piss and left Jelly Roll to get fucking slaughtered, but instead they have a big fight. They stopped Roll for a minute so Logan Paul could beat him up, but Orton got Drew out of the way, and Jelly Roll finished up by giving Logan Paul above a slam in the middle of the ring. And that was the highlight of the rest of the show, Brian. I don't know, do you have comments on Rolls technique before we go any further?

I thought you were to comment on the head palm shootoff. That was the first thing I noticed that all Jim's going to go crazy when he sees him. Oh, well, I was trying to get through with it, but I wasn't really going to critique it like he's actually doing this for real. But yes, the head palm shootoff followed by Erdell that were prefaced by some weak-looking strikes. See, that's the thing. We started seeing people on social media like, look, he can work. Look, he really has put in the work at the training facility. He really can do it.

And I thought, like, it wasn't the worst thing ever, but it was a guy very conscious that he doesn't want to fuck up. Like, it didn't look natural. And I don't know. Yeah, well, and I don't know why that the guys are encouraging him. Just put your hand on the back of my head and I will fling myself into the ropes for you. can't they just say here's the way you shoot me off i mean i don't but that's you know so that's where it's it's got to folks in the commercialization of the modern world and yes i've i've seen

DJs and matches and celebrities and matches and guys from other sports in matches and all kinds of different things and some of it took place exactly where it belonged which was in small venues on a localized fucking level but this as they say is going to be out in front of god and everybody at somerslam and when i was a kid i had a basketball goal in the driveway and i like to occasionally shoot a basket, Brian. Did you know that about me? I did not, no. And I had an ABA ball, the red, white and blue ball, which is still to me the only

basketball. That looks so cool. Yeah. And I, and I, while I was, when were the Kentucky colonels still in existence? What was their last season? 72. When I was 10 years old and I was out with my ABA ball shooting at my back. basket. I thought, well, that would be cool. But here's the thing. I was a dumpy, vertically

challenged for the most part average height white kid that couldn't play basketball. So I didn't pursue it. And I don't know even if somebody said to me, if I became a multimillionaire, famous person could buy it or get it done for publicity or whatever. Hey, you ought to play a game with the Kentucky Colonels, even if I was young enough where I could run up down to court without having a heart attack, I don't know if I would have put myself in that position. Wouldn't that be disrespectful on some level and otherwise opening myself up for a lot of people to say, what the fuck is that fat white fuck doing on the court?

You never know. or the opposite happens, and you're the next Larry Bird. I have a feeling there'd be a lot of birds, but I'd probably be on the receiving end of them. Magic versus corny. Who knows how things would have worked out? Do you think you would have played well for Bobby Knight?

Well, I think we would have probably gotten along. I think, in Indiana, well, I think because he, you know, they're in Indiana, maybe he had learned something from Professor Roy Shire

about his talent relations. because when I watched the documentary not long ago, he reminded me a Watts. All right, well, this has been the jelly roll Logan Paul confrontation. The jelly roll Logan Paul mashup. All right. And for the rest of the damn program, 30 minutes in now we got a girls match

between Alexa Bliss and Roxanne Perez, which led into Jade Cargill versus Chelsea Green, so at nine o'clock we'd had two tribute videos to hogan two girls matches and a fight with jelly roll Cody Rhodes did a promo Cody Cody Cody Cody Rhodes Cody Cody Rhodes Cody Rhodes oh ha ha ha ha ha ha Cody Rhodes I love that song and he did a great baby face promo and he had fire and delivery and the fans sang his name and he wants the re-a-haired

old John Sina at SummerSlam. Not this guy that's ready to leave and et cetera, et cetera. He wants him in his best. He's another guy wants him in his best. I want the fucking guy I'm going to fight to crawl in a goddamn paraplegic. But even it's a good promo,

but it's a two-hour show to watch Cody do a good promo. The thing is, Brian, I had an epiphany. When I was watching these shows, remember the wrestling that we that was easy to watch. That was one hour a week

and not only for the fans, it was easy to digest, but for the boys, we knew we had two to three minutes on a fucking promo to get over and make a fucking point, sell some tickets. And even if we had

a goddamn main event match, you got eight to ten minutes maybe with entrances to get out there and have this match and get the thing done. and it was faster-paced. It was more a sense of urgency. It was goddamn more exciting to watch.

Am I crazy? Or is this what has happened? And now that they know, we got 15 minutes for every promo and we got to go 20 with entrances and commercial breaks in the match. So what to fuck? Slow it down.

Milk everything. AEW won't slow down. WW won't speed up. Yeah, you need something in between. If only there was a billionaire out there. Oh, there's plenty of them now. There's, unfortunately, they're too busy trying to take over the world. Well, what am I saying?

Trying to keep control of the world. But nevertheless, Ms. was competitive with Jacob Fatu for a while, before he got beat. And then taller Tonga came in with the rest of the bunch, and they just beat the shit out of Jacob. and I mean, they put, they, the taller hit him with the clothesline while Solo was sitting there with the chair over his head. They had to go over and take the chair off Solo's head that Jacob had put there. But they closedline him and chokeslammed him and spiked him.

And truthfully and honestly, none of that was really as good as it sounds. because I'm I'm thinking this is the new solo bloodline group of Tongas, whatever the fuck is sort of like they've just done that because they used to have the Samoan group that was over and now it's kind of guys.

I think Jacob would stand out more if he wasn't dealing with them am I crazy? No, he should be interacting with the other main event or is like Gunther, CM Punk, Bronbreaker and like that crowd,

but he's just tied in all this and this is all he's really done since he's been there. Something for solo. Everything with solo has been around this universe. Is it like late era NWO?

I don't know. But the crowd reaction here was quite telling. They weren't really reacting at all to the beatdown. And when Jacob Fattu started making his comeback, it took a few

took a few rounds for the fans to get into it. It took his shake or whatever you call that he does. So I don't know if the fans are really into it. They're into him. But you got to get him away from all of this sooner rather than later. Yeah. And Talatanga, I guess he's almost seven feet tall. I don't know.

It's like he's not really that imposing. I'm telling you, his head is way too small. he needs a bigger head he does not have a giant's head he's got a normal little peanut head up there on that fucking big tall body do you think giant Silva could have gone further looks like a little softball do you think giant Silva could have gone further you know actually everybody's going to say he's crazy he could have if we'd have found him about 15 years beforehand because he I can't remember exactly what his age was, but he was older. He had to be 40 at least when first got him.

And he started being able to do some things where you could tell that if you had a few years to hide him in a couple of small territories back and forth, whatever the fuck. You could have got something out of him if he was younger. But as it was, that was about what was going to happen. well, the whole his presentation and the whole oddities thing didn't didn't help anything. You could have stolen a couple of shows

out of him before he made him figured it out, but not the way that they presented him. Again, I never thought about it before. I didn't know too much about his background in Brazil. He was born July 21st, 1963, 62 years old now. So yeah, he was already in his 30s. There you go. Well, okay, 62 to

1990, what was that, seven, yeah, he was 35 years old, and I mean, and that size. So it wasn't like he was Diamond Dallas Page, you know, motivated middle age type of thing. But old taller needs a bigger head, I'm just telling you. And then the main event on Smackdown was Andrade and Ray Phoenix against the Wyat's, and I tuned out. And with Raw, I got to be honest with you. I cheated and read the recap because of the Netflix,

the streaming business, I hate it. And besides for the Hogan tribute, and I understand Jay Uso and Heyman had a lovely interview session, I'm sure it was very good with Heyman, he's a master. And I understand that Gunther and Punk had a nice long segment where they spoke to each other, and they're two of the best promos in the business. But I didn't feel the need,

and again with you can't fast forward through the commercials for some length of time after the fact, apparently on Netflix, and I got stuck after the Hogan tribute on three minutes of baby wipe commercials or whatever. So I didn't feel the need for those two segments to try to wade through Seamus versus Grace

and Waller, Wild and Cruz against J.D. and Finn, a girls eight-man tag, a six-person tag with girls and guys. And that was what the middle of the show was for almost three hours. And so I concentrated on the main event, Jay Uso and Bronson Reed, because that's where they finally gave you a reason to watch the show. Was I crazy, Brian? No. Well, I would appreciate it a more full-throated thing. How in the world, Jim, could you possibly think that you might be mentally impaired?

How can you review it if you don't watch it? How could you say you'd get rid of them from your roster if you don't watch? You hate girls! I can't review it because if I don't watch it, that's why I'm not reviewing it, because I didn't watch it. but Jay Huso and Bronson Reed they took a step forward

in something that we've been obviously calling for for some time and also predicting they were going to do from the way that things were looking they're elevating Heyman's young guys in Seth Rawlins' absence

Bronson Reed and Bronnbreaker they're elevating both of them but they're elevating Braun as the guy and they're elevating Reed as the main henchman just with subtle positioning, but that's exactly what they should be doing. You don't want to get both these guys over for the exact same position in the same way because then you don't get either.

But clearly, Breaker is the star of the thing. And they had a nice match. As I said, there was an element of the thing is they got to fill a lot of time on this show so nobody's in a hurry. And then they got to get out of the match. Jay makes a comeback, hits a dive on Reed on the floor. Bronson Reed, or Bronson Reed, or Bronzen Breaker, comes down the aisle and hits he with a spear.

Disqualification. Boom. Because it's the angle. That's what they're concentrating on. And they started and it didn't start promising when they got a little weak heat on Uso, but then Roman's music hits.

And Roman is the thing, if they're going to play music for a guy to come out, he can't walk out if his fucking, what's Jay relation, his cousin,

whatever is, he's down. Now, the heels are supposed to just stop and stand there slackjawed. Well, Braun Breaker said,

fuck that. I'm still kicking his fucking guy. and Roman rains is just walking it this is what I'm saying all these angles need to be treated with more urgency

but nevertheless Roman makes comeback clears the ring helps Jay up they nail the heels off the apron they go to run around the ring to double spear the heels and they get speared instead it. And then they just destroyed the baby faces. Braun speared Hussaud and Reed splashed him.

And then Braun clotheslined Roman over the desk and tossed him back in the ring. And they splashed Roman and Braun trash talked him. And then as they had kicked him out of the ring, Braun ran around and speared both of the baby faces through the barricade at the same time. How about that? that's a hell of a statement yes and and one of those guys is roman rains who was a pretty big fucking deal and then reed stole roman's tennis shoes which was a nice touch and you know but the point is they need to elevate the young guys and they're doing that and these are the right guys to do it

and haman being with them gives them more credibility the only thing i didn't like about this because are doing exactly what they should, but it's so, it's so modern wrestling that nobody's trying to stop. And there's no sense of urgency. They do the thing they're going to do back and forth, and then the heels just take their time. It's not like they're getting away with a crime or they're, you know, do you see what I'm saying?

It's so sports entertainment, it distracts me that, they want their fans to accept. it is, you know, it's always been this way, which I guess now they do, it's been so long. But goddamn, somebody would be trying to help these people. And there's ways around that where you still do all this shit. We all always did. They just must think it's a distraction when to me it's a distraction that tells me, well, nobody gives a shit or this is supposed to happen.

am I just the odd duck Brian I don't know you may be the odd duck in terms of it not happening but these are all things that should be considered and probably should be applied or you can have the other attitude with it's wrestling you know it doesn't matter who cares we just move on

what do you think I mean the way they built up Braun here specifically Bronn yeah Bronn the other one's Bronson I'm sorry I got a little confused for us. I get my own head here. Well, and that's a thing they might need to address. The way they're building him up, the way they built him up here, you know, to any argument that Seth Rollins isn't as badly

hurt and he'll cash in soon, it would almost negate some of this stuff because I feel like they've really done a good job of finally getting him away from the pack a little bit, even though he's in the pack. Well, yeah, again, that's the thing is we'll find out at SummerSlam, but I don't believe that Seth Rollins is going to be showing up turning any cartwheels and doing any cash-ins or anything. And, you know, cheerio if they fool me. But it just seems like an odd thing at this point that would just stick out somehow.

Okay. Do you think Bronbreaker will cash in? I don't think they're going to do that yet. I don't know that they By that, I mean, have it. That's almost right. Yeah, Paul giving Bronbreaker the case. I don't think they'll do it yet.

But I think there's more chance of that happening than there is a Seth showing up and doing it. How about that? How about them apples? I'm not disagreeing with you. Well, and we both got apples and we don't have to worry about those pesky kids with their lemonade stand. We can sell apples on. street corner. Let's get away from this analogy, whatever, you and this stand that you want to have out there for

the kids. Well, it's a stand-like structure. I had one when I was nine. It's a long way down there to the road, and traffic was nothing like what it is now back then. So me and a little girl that lived next door, we made 25 cents and called it a day after about four hours. All right.

Well, it's time to take a stand, and that is to say that was raw. Yeah. Jim on the topic of WWE and they've got a lot of lemonade stands set up for this weekend, SummerSlam two nights August 2nd and August 3rd

at MetLife Stadium East Rutherford, New Jersey. Beautiful tropical East Rutherford will be hosting this... I've been told that that was named after Rutherford B. Hayes, is that correct? Who told you that? Well, when I was up there last.

Oh, okay. Somebody said, oh, it was named after Rutherford B. Hayes, the 12th president, wasn't he? Was he the 19th? I forget. It may be. I actually don't know. I don't know. You know who Edison, New Jersey is named after? Yeah. I certainly do. Edison fucking McKenzie. He was that Irish guy that pioneered the thing back in a 1600s. Well, Jim, let's go to this lineup. This is from what's on Wikipedia. Oh, boy. He's an matches. Night 1, August 2nd, Sammy Zane versus Carrying Cross with Scarlett.

Oh, geez. Zane can make almost anything watchable in the ring. I know a bunch of people have been saying, oh, well, now Cross is great because he's cutting the promos again. I do, yeah. Well, you know what, but we've got to watch. You know why, Brian? Remember, we got to put the bump meter, put the clicker on the bumps. If we're doing that, I feel like based on the fact you did it previously and you are an expert, you should predict right now how many bumps will take.

Well, what was it? Last time the total was eight, but we worked it out to where about five of them were of the Ox Baker variety, where he went down, but there was no chance of potentially anything going awry. So let's say it's SummerSlam, he's got something to prove. He's going to take five solid bumps. five solid bumps in the match. I'm going to go with nine. It's SummerSlam, like you said,

and I think we'll debate what's a solid bump and what isn't, but I'm going to say nine bumps. Let's see what happens. Jim, in a tag team match for the WWW. Women's Tag Team Championship, the Judgment Day, Raquel Rodriguez and Roxanne Perez, the champions, versus a team, I don't think you've really seen,

but they've actually really gotten over big with the fans. Alexa Bliss and Charlotte Flair. Well, son of a gun. Oh, Charlotte's back in town. This has been the past couple of weeks when I've had my attention diverted, right? Is that now they like Charlotte again, suddenly. So who are the favorites here?

Are they going to put the Bliss Flay? connection over or are they going to be turned away by the heels? You're asking me? Well, I've said, is there any smart money on this? What's the over and under? What's the vector, Victor? Well, let me ask it this way. If Liv Morgan's going to be out for a considerable bit of time more, and again,

she separated her shoulder, do you want to keep the belts on them because of the story that is there or are they not even needed for the actual? idea that Roxanne has just replaced Liv and Liv and she's trying to steal his boyfriend and everything. That's a very interesting question and I think that I would answer that if I gave a shit. But right now I really don't get to flying French fried titty fucks what they do with the women's tag team title there, but Charlotte and Alexa

that's the long and the short of it. I'll take them. Jim, a tag team bout, Roman Reins and Jay Uso versus Bronbreaker and Bronson Reed with Paul Heyman. Well, the heels need to win because they are, this is the, you know, elevation process of these two young guys for the future that are going to be on the top level.

And the cheap way to do it would be beat Jay, but I think since Heyman's involved, they'll figure out some way for Breaker to beat Roman. Because that's what I'd do if I were me and Heyman's almost as smart as me. So he'd probably do it too if he were him. Because he's Heyman.

Well, Jim, our next contest for the WWE Women's Championship, the champion Tiffany Stratton versus Jade Cargill. I'm intrigued to see what this will be. Yeah, there you go, because Tiffy has been very popular. You know, she's one of the people where her gimmick was supposed to be healish and annoying in nature, and it was so endearingly so apparently to some segment of the population that they started liking her. But point being, Jade don't do a lot of jobs, but Jade is also not that experience.

and neither is Tiffy when it comes down to it. So what you're saying, Brian, is that you are interested in this because this could, this needs to be fairly brief. I'm not talking three minutes or whatever. They're not going to go 20. And it needs to be heavily discussed beforehand and there is a potential that at some point something could go sideways, is what you're saying.

What I'm saying is I think Tiffany Stratton's really good. and I think Jade needs the right person to be in the right spot Jade needs to be like presented almost like the ultimate warrior or something like it just if she's not she gets exposed yeah but I don't know maybe they'll surprise us but I'm untrifying and that's the thing and I'm not saying that Tiffy isn't you know any good but at her level of experience or anybody's level of experience just about you not only have to be good for you, but you have to be good sometimes for the other person.

And that's where they got to watch out for putting Jade with anybody. But we shall now, who's going to win this thing? Will they put Jade over Tiffy? Can that happen, Brian? I'll be upset. How can you treat Tiffy this way? It only works if Tiffy gets screwed over by someone else. And Jade losing could work.

If Jade gets screwed over by someone else, I don't know. Well, who's going to screw these girls? That's the question I'm asking. Who is going to screw either one of these girls? I don't know. Naya Jax is not on the card. I don't know.

I'm not going to answer who's going to screw anyone. Well, somebody's going to need to screw somebody. Listen, let's screw all here. Jim, the continuation of our preview of night one of SummerSlam, Randy Orton, and Jelly Roll. versus Drew McIntyre, maybe, and Logan Paul. Well, do we need to first discuss where in the world is Drew McIntyre? We need to have a plan A and a plan B.

First, we have to let people in on where he is and what might be happening with him. Do we not? It was certainly going to be a topic here on the show. I don't know we're going to do it right now or later. We can't put the horse before Drew, can we? Well, we can. I think that's exactly what's happening right now, but let's get back to Drew and you could explain how he got drawn into this situation.

Well, no, he's not drawn into anything now. He's actually in it. Explain what he's done. Apparently, Drew McIntyre, after Smackdown, I presume, left the country to go to the UK for a friend. friend of his wedding and then tried to come back and they wouldn't let him on a fucking plane because he he the description and he he's doing promos about it like said oh jelly rolls using his pull trying to block me out of the country or whatever see i sound just like through

but apparently he had his UK passport but he didn't have they wanted his US passport and even said the guy that wouldn't let him on the plane knew who he was and he was and and still said, no, how, Brian, if you know, how does that work? Yes, he's got to have a UK passport because he's, I guess, still a UK citizen, right? But he's been working in this country for so long with obviously all the documentation and all the paperwork. And he's on national goddamn television once or twice a week. So it's not a secret he's here. It's not been a wrestling promoter thing

where they're trying to get out of paying some kind of fucking tax or doing paperwork, whatever. So why would they not let him on the fucking plane? I really don't know. It is an interesting thing. You know, the jelly roll excuse he gave. It would all work a lot better of Drew as a baby face.

And you could say that dastardly heel was trying to keep me away. Yeah, yeah. As opposed to the heel saying, Yeah, that baby face you all like. He's the reason I can't get into the country. That really doesn't. That country music guy that used to be a fucking inmate

has big connections with the, but nevertheless, well, he met a lot of people in law enforcement, from what I understand. But Drew McIntyre has been doing this, traveling internationally at a high level for a long time. So it's not like that he doesn't know how this, works or he's just some tourist and he had said that he never had any problem with this before but is they have they changed some regulation or whatever or what the fuck but apparently the w w e office is having to work on but then again if he didn't have the right passport

okay in one day you can fucking overnight a goddamn maybe two days right whatever part of the UK's in. So there must be... You can pay enough to get it there overnight. Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. There's, there's got to be some other fucking issue going on, or maybe he's exaggerating for the sake of... But he was denied, denied entry, denied boarding or whatever to come back to the United States. Like, he could potentially be some terrorist masquerading as somebody. You know, considering how many international wrestling there are right now, and now there's a deal with AAA.

So we're going to have more wrestlers coming from Mexico. There are so many wrestlers from Australia, the UK, all over Europe, Gunther. That'd be an interesting gimmick for a heel, like the guy who steals everyone's passports. The guy, like, when guys wrestle, the only thing he's going for is their passports, so they're stranded. I like it.

Hey, and, but that's the thing is, without a, without showing proof that you have a contract with some company that's doing business legitimately in the United States, you can't get a permit to work as a wrestler in the United States. So the vast majority of those guys on Indies years ago that were coming back and forth, we're just driving across or flying through and say, oh yeah, I'm going to fucking Lollapalooza or whatever. the fuck. And that's, remember what time we had, Davy Richards, we had to fucking call him from the Ring of Honor Office, say, dumb shit, take down your goddamn Twitter, whatever it was

then, his post on social media. He was trying to put Kyle O'Reilly over as what a dedicated hard worker he was. And one of the comments was, he's come back and forth illegally into the country over and over again to pursue his craft. He didn't have any papers then right at that second. We had to get delirious is on the phone with him. Dumb shit. Take that down. Anyway, back to what's Drew doing at SummerSlam, maybe?

Well, once again, going back to this, Drew McIntyre at SummerSlam, teaming up with Logan Paul maybe, against Jelly Roll and Randy Orton. Teem up with Logan Paul, maybe. Call me, baby. I mean, I have. hate to say it, but

if they've gone this far, jelly roll is going to get the fucking pin over somebody unless just he refuses and is allowed to just in some type of potentially inoffensive way save the day for Randy so he can hit an RKO and then jelly can get on top or whatever or something.

But I don't think they're going for a riot here on a heel fuck on the finish. Do you? And it's going to be Logan Paul because he's the kind of heel that can take it. Do you think he's going to use some of the traditional big man, fat man, kind of like hold the guy in the corner with his belly or a splash? I don't know. I'm waiting to see if they do him like the McGuire twins and take the bottom rope off so he can roll into the ring underneath the rope.

Should he do a belly bump? If you have a guy that big, do you want him doing that spot? Does it make sense? You've almost got to. Well, that's the thing is he's not as big as he's. used to be. And so that they should have caught him when he weighed 500 because then he could have just studied Big Daddy's greatest hits and done that.

But now he's only, what, 325 or whatever he may be? Well, fuck, that's neither here nor there. Drew can slam him if he wants to. Well, so can Logan Paul. So he should have started a couple weeks ago eating cheeseburgers and milkshakes. Get back up to at least four for heaven's sake. Well, let's get back to, we're almost done. You have a prediction.

He could have his lower belly removed later on, surgically. We still haven't gotten past night one. Finally, Jim, the main event at night one or SummerSlam. For the world's heavyweight championship, the champion, Gunther, versus C.M. Punk. I'm looking forward to the match. I bet you it's good. It's not only it's going to be logical and sensible

and lyrical, sort of like Super Bowl. Tramper. But also, those two guys are creative and they know what they're doing. So it's going to be a great match as to calling the finish. I don't see Gunther losing, but punk, you know, should have some type of legitimate out, bitch, gripe, whatever the kids are calling it these days, where you can point to if that hadn't happened, Smithers, but I think Gunther will retain. Well, there it is, night one of SummerSlam, 2025. We'll get to night two in a second. You know, Jim, we probably didn't expect night one to go as long as it did.

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versus Andrade and Ray Phoenix, versus DIY of Johnny Gargano and Tom. Camaso Champa, versus Fraxium of Axiom and Nathan Frazier, versus Motor City Machine Guns. Oh, for God. Alex Shelley and Chris Sabin versus the street prophets, Angelo Dawkins, and Montez Ford. You know what that tells me, Brian? That tells me that I can save 30 minutes right off the top of the bat. Oh, come on.

SummerSlam night, too. Oh, first. There's only six matches. There's only six matches. You've got to watch this. You have to. There's six teams in the one match. This is a big night for them.

Everyone waits for your big multi-man summer summer. He's only going to part the Red Sea six times. For heaven said, no, no, no. Ladders, tables, chairs, 12 guys, six teams, no, DQ, lazy booking. I think not. Well, we'll see how you feel the day of. Maybe you'll get into the spirit of it. For the WW.

I have a feeling I'll turn to Buddhism before I'll get in that spirit. For the WWE Intercontinental Championship, the champion Dominic Mysterio versus A.J. Stiles. This one should be a fun match, as the kids say. A fun match. They're both good workers. Dom has heat. AJ's a baby face.

He will know how to foil him and at the same time he'll sell his ass off for him. And I think Dominic has to come out on top in some nefarious fashion, but I believe that he will probably emerge victorious. Jim, in a no disqualification, no countout, last chance match, for the W.W.E. Women's Intercontinental Championship,

the champion Becky Lynch versus Lyra Valkyria. If Lynch wins, Valkyria can no longer challenge for the intercontinental title as long as Lynch's champion. I was about to say, how about as long as any of us are still alive? Becky Lynch has to win that because at some point sanity has to prevail.

and young lyric may be a fine girl and a friend of Becky's, but there's no charisma, there's no personality, there's no, I don't know what, how else to say it. And on a big show like that, Becky Lynch, the bigger star needs to win and hopefully we will, I'll not be watching this match. I've saved an hour. See, you can't do that.

Now you're skipping two matches. There's only six matches. Yeah. Good, that'll give me more time to digest the ones that actually mean a fuck. Do you think Lyra will Iro have special wings, like big wings for the pay-per-view, for SummerSlam, outdoors? The only way I would like her right now is if she had chicken wings. Jim and she had chicken wings and plenty of ranch, I'd like her. Otherwise, no.

Jim in a steel cage match for the United States championship, the champion Solo Sacoa versus Jacob Fatu. And this has got to be Jacob. Does it not? And I wish I was more amped for it because it's Jacob Fatu, but we've talked about the matches with him and these other guys, it's family, it's similar styles, it's similar weakness. They've all got some of the same weak points also,

which become more glaring when they're both doing them. it's like is this kind of like Flair and Buddy Landell Battle of the Nature Boys? No, that drew money. I'm not looking forward to the match. I don't think they're a good matchup.

I think they ought to have different opponents for each other instead of each other because a lot of punch kick head butt and head palm shoot off, open hand punch. They don't play to the, their strengths. They do the same shit. I'm, I'm droning now. Jim in a triple threat match for the Women's

World Championship. The champion Naomi versus E.O. Sky versus Ria Ripley. This I'll watch, not only because Ria's in it, but because it's an actual main event, Naomi has been a lot more interesting as a heel than she was beforehand, which was me.

And Eos guys in the middle of something else, I'd like to see two young women to settle amongst themselves. And it's probably going to look like the, you know, exchange student or, you know, delinquent child that they've adopted from the reform school. Ria Ripley has to win, does she not? Or potentially, you know.

Naomi's just, got the belt. Well, that's true. It's been, it's, they need to give Ria something big soon, but it's too quick to take the belt off Naomi,

but again, you know, at least somebody will beat E.O. You know what that means? It means EO's going to win. Finally, Jim, a street fight for the undisputed W.W.E. Championship.

The champion, John Sina versus Cody Rhodes. All right, Brian. What there is September, October, November, there are four months left in the year for them to do something else

with John Sina than have him just retire as a as a heel. And we thought that that would probably be what they do is he'd run for most of the year and he'd switch back at the end, but then he said a lot of things

going to, it would be hard to say, oh, I was just pulling your fucking leg. But it's, is it kind of got old already that he's the heel with the belt? Cody needs the dagum thing back from Sina. And or elsewise, I think it damages Cody after Sina's gone.

So figuring that they're either going to do it here or would they do it? a rematch after a street fight? Do they think they have some finish that can draw people back to see an even more severe stipulation? But Cody's got to be the one that beats Sina for this thing, or they've just shot everybody in the foot. Would you agree with that?

You know, I don't know how helpful this year has been to Cody. It feels like he's the coldest he's been since he got in there. there have been issues with the Sina heel turn, the title run. When's hell in a cell? I guess whenever they want it to be. There's no set like month. It's not like a September thing or anything.

It's just whenever they want. I'm sure that, you know, somebody out there who, you know, pays more attention than I do could might tell you, but I don't know. Then you would have four months or so with Sina without the belt. What's he doing? He's a heel chasing for the belt? just turns back baby face. And how does that help anything if that happens?

It kind of makes it Bobby Ewing, you know? Well, but is there some fashion in which somebody... Where's the rock? Well, good Lord. I'm not sure we need to go through that whole thing again. But is there somebody that could potentially try to... And again, poor Seth Rollins,

but can try to interject themselves in this thing and in some way switch Sina baby face to assist Cody. But I don't know what they're going to do past. They're making a drastic mistake. I'm not saying they have to do it at SummerSlam, but if Cody's not the one that beats Sina for the belt, then they've made a mistake. Well, that is SummerSlam, Night 2.

A big two-night extravaganza. SummerSlam 89 was at the Meadowlands in East Rutherford. This will be a lot longer, a lot bigger, and so much more than that. Jim, before we move completely on, well, actually, and it's not going to do with any of this, so we're moving completely on. Let's move completely on. I sent you an email because a ton of listeners have sent it over. they've emailed at the corny drive-thru at gmail.com.

They tried to post it in the Facebook group. Of a battle royal on the water, people want to know your thoughts on it, on the concept. It's about 12 seconds. I've sent you a link for you to check out this. Well, I appreciate you sending me this, but I've already seen it because it was all over Twitter. And if it's 12 seconds, the same thing I've seen.

Apparently, it went on for longer than the video, which is only 12 seconds. But did any of it? give any explanation for how this came to be a thing that was happening and why they were doing it and where I know it's in France but it was this like at a summer festival there was some some type of context toward having a ring out in the middle of a lake a floating ring at that that wasn't floating very well. But it seemed that was the intention.

It seemed that was the intention. You kind of wanted it to go from one side to the other, and then you'd have to run from one side to the other. See, I don't know anything about it. In terms of details, people just started sending it. And like, Jim's going to lose his mind about this. I'm like, I don't know, actually, if he will. Well, yeah, there's a thing.

There's people in a rowboat or some type of inflatable pontoon or whatever in the goddamn lake next to. of the ring. There's like 18 people on the bank of the lake or whatever sitting in lawn chairs watching it. And there's as many wrestlers in this ring that's on spare tires and floating whatever. But when a couple of them go too far past middle, it tips sideways. the one ring post goes all the way down to where the apron of the ring is underwater.

And then they all slide that. And there's a girl in it, too, now that I'm looking. I don't, I don't. And it's raining. Come to think of it. Now, no wonder, there's nobody there. These dumb shits are out in the rain in the lake. My God is not lightning.

What do you think of the concept? Is there any applicable way of using this for anything legitimate? I can see that if you had some kind of spring break thing where it was a, I'm not talking about kids getting together and deciding to put on a show. I'm saying if it was some hotel or resort area and they've got a big spring break thing, all in our pool or our water feature or even, you know, next to our beach, we'll have a ring floating of some description. but this looks not only so low budget,

but low rent outlaw. It just, you know, so I could see that there could be a context where you could do something like that if you had a special attraction at a water-centric event or somewhere on the water, but just putting people out in the lake and the rain for 18 people to sit there and watch them fuck around.

I don't, I don't know. if that was well thought through. All right. Doesn't it remind you a chill, Halley Park at all? No, because there was a lot of people. Those people would come, they were used to it. Les Thatcher said on one night it was him and Whitey, I think, is either Don and Al Green or maybe the Wright brothers.

They had 5,000 people come in a rain to sit there. They put one preliminary on and then the main event so the people could see that and then canceled the rest of the card and people went home happy. They had more patience than the people in France. Okay, the Battle Royal has ended. And we are all the winners here today

because we have more time, more questions, more fun here on the show, Jim. Several listeners have been sending in questions. I'll ask one for everyone. Apparently on Collision, I didn't see it, I know it's going around. AEW had a segment. I was told it was a very nice word or two from Tony Chivani about Hulk Hogan's passing.

Some fans were really upset, it seemed, or at least saying they were, that there wasn't an official AEW post and AEW tribute. Anything like that of any kind, Ron Smackdown naturally began with Hulk Hogan tributes. TNA began impact with a Hulk Hogan tribute. Again, Hulk Hogan worked in those places. Was AEW obligated to do more than they did? Did they just do fine?

It's not really their thing they don't need to dive in, considering the past comments about the Hogan's from AEW? Well, I mean, I was banned one time according to Jericho, but I'd like to think that if I kicked off, old Tony would mention it at least. But here's the thing now. Are you saying because I know they just did the brief, you know, mentioned by Tony Chivani, and it was a minute or whatever the fuck. It wasn't just like, yeah, this is what happened.

But did they not make like an official Twitter post or statement from AEW as a company? You know, we're sadden to hear about the passing of Hulk Hogan or whatever, just the generic thing that everybody does. They didn't do that as a company officially? I don't believe so. I'm going to double check that right now, but I don't believe they did. that's you know you kind of have to do that in that situation even if it's a corporate statement I mean think of how many people they've passed that the W.W.E made a statement on and they were

on the outs with them or they had been on the other side during some type of promotional war in the past but the thing is with a video tribute what could they have played what could they show they TNA is affiliated with with WWE now WVE owns the WCW library what would they have would they have gone back and showed him in Memphis that's almost the only thing they could do isn't it? New Japan but even New Japan

I don't know if they could just I mean that's the TV that's not the company that old footage is not owned by New Japan now so it would be possibly an issue. That's right it's the network that that's why I've been told in the past that there was not more things done with some of that footage because the network owns it and they have somewhat grander expectations than most wrestling promotions over here would have wanted to pay for rights.

So Tony has to buy the network. It's that simple. So they had two or three days try to find some footage that they probably can't get and wouldn't be able to get the rights to. so I don't think they should have done a big video thing, but they're, you know, they probably should have covered their bases on social media. Even though they had that previous tweet where, again,

Tony Kahn told Linda Hogan, your band, you know, whatever it was, just like your husband, you're banned, which was the first time anyone heard that Hogan was banned. Well, but it was the, you know, the whole thing. They were trying to appeal to their audience that was predisposed not to like Hulk Hogan anyway. and as I said earlier in this program, then Linda opens her yap and

gets heat all over the whole family. But there's a difference between, no, we don't want a guy coming to our show that he wasn't going to come to anyway. And, you know, when he's dead, not saying, oh, we, you know, we recognize the passing of old John Henry there, whatever the fuck.

All right, Jim, well, let's move on here with the show. this question was sent via email to corny drive-thru at gmail.com from David Croft in 96 South Carolina. What? Oh, that is a town. That's right, 96 written out, not the number, right? That's a real town, really? Yes, I believe it is. With a few exceptions, I generally dislike it when a wrestler wears some form of denim jeans

leather or biker pants, baggy athletic wear, or what have you, as their ring gear for regular matches. I find it to come off as unprofessional and Bush League. Also, in my mind, it also weakens the presentation

as a legitimate sport. My question for you, what is your opinion? On non-tites legwear in professional wrestling, Do you know the time frame of when it became acceptable in mainstream wrestling to wear non-tights for regular matches? Did sports commissions have a say on ringgear for wrestling?

Well, believe it or not, it has not been unheard of in the distant past for there actually to be athletic commission rules as far as, you know, guys and girls had to wear certain, you know, types of things in order to cover up or whatever, but for this purpose of this exercise, it started being a thing along with 90s indie wrestling and then ECW grungy. And also because a lot of the guys on the outlaws couldn't afford fucking tights to begin with.

And everybody's look was supposed to be, oh, he's whatever the fuck you. What were they? They were all in the 90s. All the guys were disgruntled. and, you know, alienated from society. And what it looks like then is, as the, as the caller describes, is a bunch of outlaw, indie, low-budget goofs.

Now, there's a reason for all of those things to be worn. Blue jeans, if it's a street fighter, a bunkhouse match, well, then there you go, it's explained. You're coming dressed for a street fight. Or if it's a guy's gimmick, there's been guys that carried off leather pants. If it's a guy's gimmick and part of a slick looking presentation, there's reasons that you can, you know, get away with wearing different types of fucking, if it's an impromptu match where guys are jumping in the ring from an interview

and they're still in their street clothes, that used to add an element of immediacy to it. But when guys just repeatedly over and over come out on indie shows or whatever with Zubaz and fucking baggy t-shirts because they think it's all about the performance, well, you look like shit. And it makes the show look like shit. And the other people on it who are at least trying, there's an element of shit on them too. Okay.

Well, that was the question about wrestlers and pants. Pants apparently with shit on it. with shit on them. Well, I think it's time now. We move on to another question here, Jim. This one, Jim, was sent via the cult of Cornette Facebook group by Harris, Sub-Romanian. Oh, come on now. Off topic, has Jim ever been to India?

That certainly departs from the normal topics that we discuss here on a program. I would think that if the fellow was a long-time listener there, he would probably have known the answer to that question because I think I talked for weeks and weeks before I took my two trips to the United Kingdom and afterwards weeks and weeks about how I'd never been, that's why I didn't know about the Drew McIntyre stuff, how that worked. I was Xanaxed when I entered and left the United Kingdom because I was coming off of and about to be on a plane.

And that was twice in my life, and that's the only time I've ever used a fucking passport, and I no longer have an active one and don't need one. And I've never been to any other place that required me to have one. Because when I used to go to Canada, not like that'll ever happen again, all you needed was your driver's license. So I ain't been to India. But let's say you had your passport handy and travel was a lot easier.

It's a new time. I don't know how it would work. Some sort of total recall kind of situation. Is there a transporter tube where I could just be beamed to India? Is India where you would go? Do you think you would enjoy visiting and traveling to the land of India? Well, hold on now. Is India where you'd rather go?

That means I've got a choice. And if we're working down the list, then that means I would have to do some research to find out if there's any place on the world, on the globe, that I would go after India. because not to again inflame the sentiments of the the questionnaire but wasn't that where that the guys went when William

Regal got that intestinal thing that almost killed him? What was it? I'd like to know what it was because I watch all these videos that pop up on Facebook whenever I go there of like I think it's India, some of it's India, like just street food and it all looks delicious except for how they make it with their hands which are never washed or no gloves, just grabbing stuff, there's flies.

Well, no, but besides that, there... Did he eat shrimp food? That's my question. Well, no, but again, no, there, while I was there in the office... In India? Oh. No, while I was there in the office in the WWF, this is, that's where they had the tour. And I remember him being reported as sick, but also there's guidelines for some countries, and I'm not trying to, if it's not India,

then I'll be more than happy to correct myself. Somebody smartens me up, but there are some of the countries where they say, don't open your mouth in the shower. Don't drink anything but bottled water. Don't have ice in a goddamn drink. I mean, you know, what the fuck?

I don't want to go to those places. Wherever they may be, Either they say, you know, that everything may be poisonous or give you a long-lasting, fucking virulent illness. Thank you very much. I'll stay here in Kentucky and fight the deer ticks. All right, Jim, our next question here was sent to corny driver through at gmail.com

from Randy Barrett, Stafford, Virginia. Mr. Cornett, I have a quick question for you. A co-worker of mine is a huge wrestling fan who attended Gardner Webb in the 1980s. He mentioned a time when you and the Midnight Express wrestled there in late 84 or early 85. He was a pretty big guy sitting up in the front row and remembers jaw jacking back and forth with you. He said you took the wind out of his sails when you announced to the crowd that you'd seen bigger arms on a chair. Rich was six foot two and 275 pounds or so at the time.

So I was wondering if you remember this interaction with this big man. He also mentioned that he talked to the security guard a day or so later and was told that you had been watching from the back because he was so vocal yelling at the wrestlers. You supposedly asked if he would be any trouble and the security guard said no, he's just a wrestling fan. That was before you and the Express went out and immediately zoomed in on him and gave him a lot of shit. The guard gave him a crockett business card that you left for him. He still laughs about the good time he had going back and forth with you. Does this, does any of this ring a bell? Thanks for all you've done for wrestling. God bless you and your family.

And it got best you and your family, sir. So it just happens at old, what was this fellow's name that's writing in from Virginia? This is Randy Barrett, Stafford, Virginia. But obviously the person in the story is not Randy. Well, yes, but Randy was not present when all these things happened at Gardner Webb. At Gardner Webb, by the way, is a college that I'm trying to remember. You could maybe Google it, Brian, but it's somewhere in the Charlotte area, either North Carolina or South Carolina, a garden. It's one of the colleges that has a small gym that we used to do spot shows and

TV tapings around the Charlotte area. It is a private Christian university in Boiling Springs, North Carolina. Boiling Springs. There's Gardner Webb. There's promos with Tony Chivani in front of the orange background at Crockett's office talking about Gardner Webb. So Gardner Web exists. Now as for the rest of the story, it's fucking or shit. I hope, you know, rich, maybe Rich is dead. So that way he won't suffer the indignity of, no. Number one thing, bigger arms than on a chair has never been in my, my fucking repertoire of witty, repartee and snappy comebacks.

I don't remember, I remember a lot of big guys in a front row of all these towns, but I never left a Crockett business card for anybody because I never had any. I didn't have my own business card. If I was watching from the back, it was because we were bored in the locker room because there was nothing to fucking do and we were watching the matches.

I wasn't paying attention to the big fellow that was 6-2-275 because Lord knows there was nobody in the locker room for Crockett at that point, anywhere near that size. But what it was, as was this fan went to the matches. And instead of telling his friend from Virginia, yeah, you know, I sat there in the front row and watched everything.

He, as was the common in those days, was trying to make himself more the center of attention, the center of the story, the, he caused some stir. Look at me, pal. You should have been there. You missed all kinds of, I'll tell you what you missed, because you weren't there. You see what I'm saying, Brian?

Why would you leave a business card? Like, hey, kid, you did great. Call the office. Like, why would you do that? Well, that said and say, yeah, he left me a business card like, hey, you know, you ought to be a wrestler like us. You look at you. That's what a lot of guys in those days would go to the matches

and they'd go back and tell their friends that they made some type of impression on somebody for doing something. They know not to mess with me down there. it, you know, that's just what they did. You know, all the stories you talk about with like riots or even just fan interactions with the towns that you were going to regularly in, I guess primarily mid-south or actually Mid-South Crockett or Smoky Mountain, forget about like I knew this instance there would be a lot of heat.

Were there certain fans that you knew because you saw them regularly like, that's the fan, that's the trouble fan, that's the fan? No. Or were they gone usually? quickly. No, well, no, because, well, for one thing that they didn't last long enough, but no, the people that you saw every week, and of course, there were still some, you know, old ladies that would get carried away and whack you at the purse or throw a cup at you or whatever, but the people you saw every week were not going to cause the trouble.

The people that hit the ring or the people that got overly into things, tried to get you on the way back, or whatever, they were the ones that just, came they were probably weren't sitting ringside they probably were general admission but they got closer to the ring when shit started happening or they just you know the he just he's there every once a while he wants to get drunk and watch the matches and he lost control of himself you know the the regulars not only i won't say even say they had all figured it out but they'd seen enough that it took more to get them really pissed off and they didn't want to fuck things up

because that was their thing they did every week or every two weeks or every show or whatever. But now having said that, one night at the gardens, the way that we originally got front row tickets before Teeny had started, you know, just letting us in, were part of the, me and my mom, part of the show at that point.

This lady that had four front row tickets reserved, because that's in those days, the first three or four rows was all reserved, same people got them every week. Well, a couple of the people that came with her moved out of town or whatever, and she said, hey, would y'all like these? Okay, we'll take them. Well, this woman, she'd known Fargo for years, used to bring him bottles of whiskey as a present every now and then or whatever. She'd been sitting there all this time

and she was fairly smart to the, she didn't know anything about Booker or booking or whatever, but she knew somehow they were not trying to kill each other. She brings her son-in-law one time. He's sitting front row by the end of the night, the last match.

I'm taking pictures. Guess who shot past me under the ropes, getting the ring, get the shit kicked out of me. Her fucking son-in-law. What the fuck of that? And she's trying to grab him, hold him back. They beat the shit out of him, tossed him back. He never came with her again.

That's an interesting thought, though. How many fans who hit the ring or try to attack the wrestlers on their way coming and going are regulars versus people who came as a one-off? I mean, these people, I'm not saying they never came. a lot of people went to wrestling what now would be termed as constantly back then if it was a weekly town and you went 15 times a year,

you were only going a little bit more than 25%. But they were generally, again, you know, the ones that are sitting up in a stands, milling around, a little bit too much to drink. Most of the ringsiders, but even then, one night in a lot in Oklahoma the guy on the front row was who picked up the fucking chair

we're going to come after me in the midnight when we were leaving the ring from the fantastic and Bobby grabbed a chair and 15 other people in the same section of ringside picked up a chair so Bobby put the chair down and everybody else put their chairs down

and they just beat the shit out of his hand to hand on the way back all right Jim what was the question The question was about Rich, who was a big fan. Well, fuck Rich. Fuck Rich. He's a big bullshitter.

Well, I'm sure he meant well, and I'm sure he was really proud of that story. Thank you for setting your email. And if he's going to lie about me, give me better material. Seen bigger arms on a chair. All right, Jim, let's talk briefly about some recent retro figures that have come out from various toy lines, including WWE's Mattel deal. Well, I was about to say, are the companies while they last since WWE's trying to run them out of business, too. Well, here's one, and I believe I heard he may have signed a new WWE Legends deal or his family may have, but before that, at least this deal was done.

From a new company, TRT, Title Run Toys, this is a Paul Orndorf-Hasbro-style figure, and it's so that he's doing the double bicep pose, but you could also sit down almost a pile-drys. drive someone. What are your, and the finishing move here is the devastating driver. Comes with its own optional hemorrhoid. You're surprised. You're surprised there aren't too many Paul Orndor figures. It's about to change.

But there haven't been too many Paul Orndor figures throughout the years. It was the original LJN and then there was a big gap. Well, and that's, you know, we were talking about this off air the other day and that a lot of these, you know, smaller companies are making small. Orr Runs, but I assume they're going through the families and getting rights and etc. But it's a chance or it's been a chance for not only people to have figures of guys like Orndorf that hadn't been done to death, but also family makes a little money.

But now suddenly, as you said, the WWs just releasing all kinds of shit. And they're doing it for half the price, as you mentioned earlier in the show. on some of these things. And I hope it works out. But it's it's sort of like that who are the power train, power house,

power, who are these people? Power Town. Oh, oh, Power Town, yeah. That group, and they tried to get me in the midnight involved and we didn't for the simple reason that you can either be, in the figure business, it seems to me, you can either be in the

WWE system and you might make X cents off of each figure that are sold, but the theory is hopefully they'll sell just a bloody million of them. Or you can do it yourself or do it on a limited basis through one of these smaller companies and, you know, maybe not sell a lot of figures,

but the talent might get more per figure. But the power town type of people, you're in the middle there where, and that's why I've talked about when the Middut Express figures that are available at Jimcornet.com came out, that we were eliminating the middleman and going directly to the consumer

and the boys were getting the money. and by the way again, Stan Lane, Dennis Condry and Bobby Eaton's kids, thank everybody that has bought the Midnight Express figures. And there's some still available, Jimcornet.com. But that's the problem is you either take a deal with one of the bigger companies. And Jesus Christ, if they're selling these things for 25, I think Powertown, you know better than I do, was it 30? Oh, it was a little bit more than that, yeah.

35, whatever. where's the money for the talent when you've got all these people in the middle, you've got manufacturing, you've got put in it in stores, and percentages being taken, and et cetera. And with the WWE trying to crowd the smaller companies out, then are these guys really going to make any money, or is it just more gross revenue for the WWE is what I'm saying to you? Well, I think it's a couple things there.

In terms of like this specific figure I'm talking about here, the brand new title run toys Paul Orndorff. I really like it. Yes, back to that. But it's like this. They're trying to do something for the love of the game here, the smaller manufacturers, the mom and pop stores, getting the forgotten talent,

a little boost. My point was going to be this is a really cool figure. And so far, WWE and their Mattel deal have not figured out how to get the retro Hasbro feel at all. It's the biggest disappointment maybe in all the figures they do. They just don't get it. They're not really what collectors want, but they got Paul Orndorff coming out in a Piper's

pet, Piper's Piper's Pett set that's coming out pretty soon, so now they're working with Paul Orndor. Or Piper's pet shit. A lot of the guys that you see like, oh, they're going to have a new Hasbro Retro from one of the companies or something, the next thing you know, like, oh, that exact figure is now going to be coming out from W.W.E. And that's going to be an issue. A Power Town, I could say, because I've seen what they've offered.

and I know what they were trying to do, it didn't seem like a mechanism to make money for wrestlers. It was also based off pre-orders. So it's not even like, you know, I guess they ended up having inventory. But the plan, it wasn't like, and you'll get all these units and you could use your powerful shop app and sell them.

It didn't seem like a way for wrestlers to make money. And as we're speaking right now, I know a lot of people who pre-ordered their stuff, myself included, it has not come. There have been no updates. We have no idea what's happening. And it's not a surprise. But a lot of the people they announced that are coming out on their next line,

same exact people. WWE is putting like almost the exact same figure. I think we ought to just start announcing, Brian, that you and I are making a bunch of figures of whoever we want to make some money for. And then the WWE will run and jump on top of that. we can take 10% on the back end. Well, Jim, let me ask you about this next one. Let's give WWE's figures a mention here.

We grab this. This is one, I've got to say. This is like where they're marketing toys to me. From the WWE Legends line series 27, the elite collection, it says, Terry Funk, Bash 89 Terry Funk. In the blue and white stripes with the black trunks over it,

middle-aged and crazy. My favorite version, maybe a Terry Funk. Is there a branding iron? There's a branding iron. He's got the hat. He's got the entire thing. And there's a chase, which is like the short print that everyone has to find a way to get, of the I Quit Match, Terry Funk. So, 1989 Terry Funk, again, who's the market for this? Kids or me?

Yeah. Well, it's the same thing, actually. but yes, that's, again, you know, for people your age, maybe close it on my age. It's been 35 years ago or whatever, fond memories. Those variants, the raw debut variant of me or the bloody variant were some of my biggest sellers on the action figures, people like the specific time periods. What did you think of that look for Terry? Because you had always seen him whenever he came into Memphis.

I believe every time he was wearing his trunks, just like he did when he was the NWA champion, just like he did throughout the 70s, just like you did in Japan. Yeah, but now he's a 45-year-old man. Sometimes your legs, you know, turn on you at that point. He didn't want to... I'm not complaining. I'm asking, what did you think of that look? Because, again, it was a very interesting...

The pants didn't match the trunks, but it all worked together. It worked, though. And it became the Terry Funk look. What did you think when you first saw it? That was what I think he had just gotten those not long before he came to work dates for me in Smoky Mountain. Because that's how he showed up. But again, he kept changing because remember, he was more of the in the 70s, even when he wasn't the world champion, he was the blonde-haired cowboy with the hat and the goatee.

But then in the 80s, he had the curly hair and the skirm. and kind of scruffy beard because he was more roadhouse. And then toward the 90s, he was covered up the legs because he had dropped a little weight also from the 80s days. He needed for mobility, so his legs looked a little skinnier. So he not only covered him up, but he had the weird stripediness, so that would make him look bigger. It was all Terry. All right, Jim, one final round here from. Hastel Toys and their gimmicks and grapplers and gimmicks. I get it wrong every time.

There are several figures here. They have put out a Tully Blanchard and Arne Anderson Brain Busters's retro Hasbro figure. Again, if you're someone who was there when these toys first came out in 1990, it was really everyone that was a big star in 89, but there were several people not there, including the Brain Busters, so they finally get a Hasbro-style figure. Yeah, because they only were there for the one year, so they didn't have time to get in the production pipeline. But here's the thing with Tully had the robes when he was a single, and with JJ or with Baby Doll, the robes and the different things,

Arn just always wore a windbreaker. So wouldn't you just be able to take a Tully figure and just put a windbreaker on it and it'd be the Brainbusters? Unfortunately, these don't come with windbreakers. A lot of the toys coming out now, they come with soft goods. There are toys coming apparently any day now from England, from epic toys. They have Rick Flair in the green robe. It's a real robe.

Like Barry Windham. Like 88, Barry Windham is a heel with a claw hand. Steve Williams in his robe. So some people are doing soft goods. Well, what about if you just went to Walmart and got the smallest child sizes of windbreakers? For the real tolly or for the figure? Well, either one. That's the same thing both way.

All right. I jest, I jest. Tully and I always jousted. What did you think of the name the Brainbusters for them? Obviously, they needed something just because that's what Vince did back then. Every tag team had a name if they were serious tag teams in WWE or WWF at the time. What did you think of the name for them? Hey, did it?

The Brainbusters. What the fuck? I never thought of an alternate because it was never something that I was tasked with doing but goddamn one would have thought as good as they were and with Heenan

and they could have come up with the brain busters sounded like it would have fit warlord and barbarian more or something of that ilk See I was like the name with Barbarian and the movie Body Slam, the Cannibals. That's such a great name but no one else used it I guess

because of the whole stigma on cannibalism. The finishing maneuver is on this... You know, cannibalism is really a maligned practice. Now, in certain cultures... Metaphorically speaking. It's not frowned on. Again, I don't know about those cultures, and I hope you don't either.

On this figure here, the finishing maneuver for Tully, the pile driver punch for Arne, the spine-buster slam. The pile-driver punch? I guess he just likes the alliteration. I'm not really sure. And finally, Jim, a set of figures, three to be exact, of Tatanka. We have Tatanka.

Here's some soft goods in his woodstock-style shirt here thing with a tomahawk in his original white pants when he came in. And here's another one with the headdress that he received in a ceremony with Chief Wahoo-McDaniel and Chief Jay Strongbow. And finally, a third one here. with a heelish face holding a lot of money from when he accepted the million-dollar-man's deal. The Buffalo Bash, what are these other finishers here?

The Buffalo Bash is one of them. The Buffalo Bash? The Tomahawk Chop and the Sell Out Slam. Any thoughts on Tatanka, the Native American superstar? Well, I'm glad he didn't use those finishes, names of finishes, for real, but do you get like the three-fans? faces of Tatanka in the same package, or is it three variants, collect them all, kids?

Three separate figures. Again, one is the classic 1992 Tatanka, which is probably his coolest look. And then it's the more skimpier blue outfit that he started wearing in 1993. No, that's when they told him to sex his shit up. With the headdress. He started wearing a skimpy clothing. Yeah. And then finally, he has a little snarl on his face here for the million-dollar man version. I don't know that there is a little. a ton of call for multiple Tatankas. I think one Tatanka might cover it, but that's just

me. All right. Well, those are... I don't know that Tatanka ever reached the heights of Don Eagle or Chief Bigheart. Well, again, those are some of the recent retro figures, and of course, if you want Jim Cornett and a Midnight Express figures, there's one place you can go,

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Hey Derek. Good afternoon, Jim. I hope this email finds you well. I'll cut right to the chase. In years past, I was a security guard for the city of Louisville. Oh, good Lord. And occasionally worked the defunct Louisville Gardens.

One evening, I was killing time by browsing the gardens record room, records room, excuse me, and came across a 1979 letter to Jerry Jarrett from a group of angry Louisville mothers. It appears that someone associated with Louisville wrestling

swindled a group of kids out of their money by promising to train them as wrestlers and never following through. The letter is transcribed to the best of my ability here, Mr. Jerry Jarrett, we are writing to see if you can help us. We have tried everyone else.

So we're writing to you and Troublethooter. Again, I don't know if that's what it's supposed to say there. Well, and Troubletor, they had a troubleshooting Consumer Affairs column in the newspaper here back in those days. So maybe that's the way they worded that possibly. In July, the paper had an ad. for the kids that take wrestling training. We called, and a man came down.

His name is Ronnie Elligood. Oh, my God! He said he is your cousin. Oh, my God! Okay, I don't know who this man is, but obviously you do. Oh, boy, Ronnie Elligood. Ellie good. Okay, there it is.

We called the YMCA to make sure, and he said he worked for them. He didn't tell us to take them. take the money to the YMCA, he took it on August the 3rd and was supposed to bring our contract, and we didn't see him after that. We called the YMCA and even went up there and talked to a man by the name of Larry Palmer. He said if the kids got their money back, they could take the training, or he would get a hold of him. We keep calling, but nothing is ever done. They see Mr. Elie good at wrestling every week, and he keeps giving the runaround, but never the money. He said you and Jerry Lawler would help train them. How many more kids has he done this to?

All the kids are teenagers, and two of us are on social security and two out of work. Oh, good Lord. How would you like for someone to eat and drink at your table, then take their money on false pretense? I know, Mr. Jarrett, you would, wouldn't want someone to do that to your child. He's at wrestling every week and sells pictures, and he said he was a wrestler. That gives wrestling a bad name. Here are the names of the children, and there are several children. I won't give their last names.

Larry, $17, age 13. Ernest, $17, age 13. All of them, $17. Lester, age 14, Bobby, age 17. Donald. Oh, good. Age 18. and Barry age 17.

This is signed by three concerned mothers. I won't give their names here, Jim. Back to the letter from Derek. Jim, being the authority on Louisville wrestling that you are, I thought that perhaps you might know something about this no-good charlatan, Ronnie Elligone.

Do you have any knowledge about the cast of characters mentioned in the letter? Do you know if those poor kids ever got their $17 back? Or if they ultimately attended Mr. Elligood's wrestling training. I would love to hear your comments on the matter. Thank you for all the great work you do

and the countless hours of entertainment. Well, this is news to me and truthfully, I'm sure when they got the letter, you know, they just dismissed it out of hand because the only relationship that Ronnie Elligood ever had to Louisville wrestling was when he bought a ticket every week to come to the fucking matches

because he was the biggest mark in the world. And I don't know that Christine Jared or anybody would have even recognized his name because I had been a fan and had, you know, gotten to know some of the regular characters that came to the matches. That's why I immediately knew his name because he was, and I get, he's got to be dead by now. If I was, in 1977, if I was 16, he was easily 20 or 25 years older than me. So he's dead now, but it's not like I care about hurting his feelings anyway.

He was the biggest country dumb fuck goof in the Louisville Gardens. He had a bold kind of protruding forehead and he talked like this. Oh, yeah, I'm right. If somebody walked up to the merchandise table and asked one of the, other fans that had maybe been out in the back alley waiting for the guys to come in so they could see him, wave at him, whatever. They'd say, did Jerry Lawler show up yet? He would butt in and say, no, he's riding up here with one of my other cousins.

Because he was cousins with Jerry Lawler and he was cousins with Jerry Jarrett. He was cousins with everybody. And as I said, just the, you know, you could tell he didn't, I don't know if he had a job but he didn't have a job that required him do anything other than change oil or something. He was always disheveled and, you know, looked like a bum fuck. And his brother, Plowboy,

that's what we used to. His brother was like 325 pounds with this giant bucket head. And he made Ronnie look like a fucking MIT scholar. And we used to call him Plowboy after Frazier because he would just wander around like a god, him, Torr Johnson would have played him in a 50s science fiction movie. But that's, no, they never, he couldn't train anybody how to do anything. And these young teenagers, he sold him a bill of goods.

He said that he was cousins with all these big time wrestlers. Truthfully and honestly, the concerned parents, if any of these parents had ever seen this guy for 30 seconds. They were said, no, you're not giving this guy any money. And it wasn't some kind of ringboy deal. I'm not saying that was involved. It's just that this was another example of a guy that had to magnify his importance to all the other fans.

I'm related to these guys. I'm in with this. I can get your boys wrestling lessons. Why? Yeah, just give me seven. $17 eight times in 1979 and I'll get Jerry Lawler and Jerry Jared

to teach them how to wrestle. You wouldn't believe this guy. Yeah, you wouldn't believe this guy if he said he was going to walk your dog for a dollar if you saw him in person. So that's what that, but again, there was no way to find out about these things in those days. If you were

just a gullible person with kids that wanted to learn how to wrestle, shit like that could happen. if he didn't watch out. Was he there throughout, like, when you were managing? Was he still attending the shows? Oh, God, yes. I'm sure he might have just decomposed in the sixth row.

All right, Jim. And there was one old fan. They called him Grandpa. He was in the same seat, in the same row, in the same section of ringside for so many years that one week, he was in the hospital to have something done. And they had to announce at, at intermission. that he was just, he was sick this week, but he'd be back next week because so many people

were asking about it. Well, again, a different world that the relationship people had with wrestling when it was a weekly thing. That kind of sets us up for our next question here, Jim. This one was sent via the Coulter Cornette Facebook group by Tony Felice. At what point in wrestling history did promoters decide to start booking weekly towns? Was the demand for weekly events already existing? Or was that the man created via promotion, TV, newspapers, etc.?

Why was the weekly town concept limited primarily to southern territories, while the Northeast and AWA territories opted for monthly shows? Well, it's nothing new, and it wasn't caused by the TV revolution or modern communications or whatever. Louisville was oftentimes, there were some interruptions, but oftentimes was a weekly town in the 30s. In short version, the reason why that there's a kind of a southern or even a southwestern and northern break in that and Midwestern is because the bigger cities, the buildings, cost more to rent. and the expenses were more for promotion and et cetera. Even the Olympic auditorium in Los Angeles, big city, but they ran every week

because the fucking building was there and it was dedicated for the most part to boxing and wrestling. But if you got Madison Square Garden, even if there was a, in the hottest periods of the garden in the 50s under Raqa and Perez, you wouldn't have been able to put 20,000 people in there every week, even though they were doing it maybe every three weeks or once a month, and the expenses would quadruple.

But by the same token, in the southern markets, the southern towns, the buildings were usually smaller. And especially in the 30s, 40s, and 50s before the major sports arenas began being built, wrestling was a more popular professional sport in the 30s and 40s than and certainly more profitable for the participants as we've been talking about. The wrestlers made more money than football players did in the NFL or the baseball players, etc, unless you were Mickey Mantle. But there weren't that many sports arenas.

So the southern towns would go weekly and try to get the same 3,000 people. they're more or less thereabouts to come every week. And we've talked about that the biggest arena in the state of Kentucky until the 50s was the armory Louisville Gardens that's seated in those days like tops out at 9,000 people for boxing and wrestling. And it wasn't until they built the memorial gym in Lexington. And then Freedom Hall in 19. 57 here that there was a arena in the state that ceded over 10,000 people.

So that's why a lot of times the, and the same thing in Dallas, the sportatorium, but they owned the fucking building, right? You established, there's geographically all over the country, there have been weekly towns in any area, but it would generally be a smaller building in the metropolitan area of a bigger city. and Brian, we're going to talk about stuff I learned at the Pfeffer collection of how even when they weren't running Madison Square Garden in New York in that period in the 40s, they were running five or six nights a week,

live wrestling events in the metropolitan area, just smaller buildings, but they were running weekly. So that was the tradeoff you made. Vern didn't want to run the smallest building in Minneapolis once a week. when he got bigger, he wanted to run the big building once a month. And that's the same thing that happened. In Atlanta, the city auditorium, seated six or seven thousand, cheap rent. Every Friday night, boom.

Once the auditorium's closed, they couldn't rent the Omni every fucking week. And that's what started leading to the downfall of Atlanta business when the only option they had was an 18,000-seat modern arena. that they had to run once a month. Does that kind of give the people an idea of what, it's not a rule of thumb. You could go anywhere, but the weekly towns were generally mid-sized markets

and mid-sized buildings and relying on regular clientele to where if you had Knoxville, Tennessee or Nashville, Tennessee or Louisville, Kentucky that would sell 150 to 200,000, tickets a year, there was, you know, a major linchpin in your territory. Jim, we received a couple of questions about the same topics, so I'm going to read you

both of them. This first one was sent to corny drive-thru at gmail.com from quiet, dignity, and grace. Is that a funeral home? I always wanted to know where the DDT came from. Is it named after the wrestler that came up with the maneuver?

Do the initial stand for something? Just a few thoughts that keep me awake at night while listening to your history lessons and then it says here is it don't do this? It's done dementing trauma? And then the second question on the same topic from James Yorkshire, England

I've noticed that most of the time the wrestler giving the DDT will slap the opponent's back before delivering the move. Why is that? I always figured it was a cue to the other wrestler but don't they always do it? And it seems very obvious.

Is there another reason I'm missing? Yes. Yes, there is. You're missing a lot. You're missing a lot. What's this fellow's name? Well, this was James. The first one was...

James, you've missed everything. No, well, first of all, the slap on the back, Jake popularized the DDT. There has been evidence that Black Gordonman was doing a maneuver like that, just as a maneuver in his matches before Jake. Jake says that, well, it was a mistake. He had a front face lock on one night, and his opponent was pushing him backwards, and he tripped.

That's bullshit. The thing is, when Jake popularized the DDT and used it as his finish, and it was most deadly and put over as, you know, the finish of the thing, it made sense when done exactly as he did it. Think about this. You put the guy in a front face lock. You're standing in front of him. He's been over.

You've got your arm around his neck. And you're going to fall backwards and you're going to drive his face into the fucking mat. And what visually would even accentuate that? Because Jake is a genius that, you know, as we've talked about it, being visual and making sure people get the idea until he, you know, know, in his later years got sideways. But what would accentuate that more is if you raise that long arm of Jake's all the way up in the air and then bring it down with somewhat level of violence and slap the guys back as you drop, it looks like you're even pushing him down more.

You see what I'm saying, Brian? So it, boom, the slap on the back combined with the fall and the guy of takes a bump right on his fucking chest and face, and that's it, lights out. That's the way Jake did it. Well, then everybody started to, oh, I can take the bump a different way. I can spike myself and do a headstand on my head, straight up in the air of my feet. Or I'll take the bump and I'll roll over frontwards like it turned me a forward roll. or now some guys are just slapping the back because they didn't even bother to think through

why Jake was doing and it just sounds cool or whatever. But that's why all those variations came about because they decided, well, we can we can do it better or different or make it prettier or whatever. And that's why we're still talking about Jake when we're talking about the DDT because he's the one that got it over and did it right and made it made sense and protected. What did you think about like when in WCW or when it just became WCW? You had both Arne Anderson and the Freebirds doing the rolling DDT where you don't go I didn't mind you go ahead.

I'm sorry. Well, yes. Well, I know the rolling thing where you kind of boom and you're going over. But I didn't mind when Arne did it because Arne was so quick with that and the spine buster and he'd snatch the DDT sometimes when people tried to duck his punch. of the freebirds doing the DDT is eh eh because that's the thing is

it that wasn't even the real free birds haze and Garvin I mean come on gorgeous Jimmy Garvin with precious was great Jimmy Garvin as a free bird was because he and Michael were friends and they talked him into it and Michael his work was best done outside managing buddy and Terry

as being the speaker as far as in the ring. So it was hard working with that version of Freebirds. The DDTs were nothing to write home about. And in terms of the name, it's based on DDT, isn't it? Oh, well, that's why I can't pronounce it. You might be able to Google it and work out phonetically, but DDT was a pesticide. I can't believe it's been so long now.

I'm having to tell the kids this. DDT was a pesticide that they were using in the 70s that was fucking dangerous and deadly and poisonous and caused cancer and all kinds of rot. And it was federally banned because it was too dangerous for humans to be exposed to. DDT, that was the name of the pesticide. So it became this perfect name for a wrestling move. You know, I'm going to screw up the quote, but I think once Jake was asked like, early on on TV, like, what does DDT stand for? Or what does DDT mean?

And I think his answer was, the end. That's great. Well, it was like an earlier version of, what was that stuff they were spraying on weed to kill weed 30 years ago, the government was? And then it was going to kill the people that were smoking to weed also, some kind of, it was the earlier version of that, but they were using it on actual crops that we were then,

going to digest. All right, that was a very pleasant note there. Jim, let's move on here with another question. This one, it's actually a couple of questions here, was sent via the Culta Cornette Facebook group by Anthony Muriel. I know you have spoken about the split between Jared and Goulas and a possible split between Lawler and Jared. Two things.

How would Memphis Wrestling be if the split never happened? Also, and this is a separate question, how would Georgia wrestling be if Anne Gunkel had won the Georgia Wars? Those were two pivotal moments in Southern wrestling. I'm curious how different those territories would be, given everything that took place. Good Lord, that might be an essay question that we shouldn't have tackled at the end of the program, but briefly... It's a great question. What ifs, yeah. Yeah, and that's the thing is.

with the Tennessee War, the thing that they were doing incredible business in both ends of the territory at that time, Nixon, Nashville, Birmingham, Chattanooga was still doing good business. You know, in 1977, 78, they were still doing decent houses in Nashville, but actually Chattanooga and Birmingham were always bigger towns for Nick going back to the 50s and 40s than Nashville because of the size of the buildings. But Jarrett had made Memphis and Louisville and then Lexington, which, well, he hadn't opened it yet in 77. He'd made Memphis and Louisville pretty much the number one and number two towns in the territory.

And so if they hadn't split, if Nick had still had. control, I don't know that what happened to Nick's towns, Nashville, Chattanooga, and Birmingham would have also happened to Memphis, Louisville, and later Lexington, because it was two different talent crews for the most part and two different booking operations, but it would have hampered the Jarrett's expansion to make his towns bigger because Nick's at the same time, time we're going down. So Jarrett divested himself of having to deal with the money losing half of the territory, and that's what Nick kept.

Jared's got bigger and Nick's got smaller. In terms of that split, what if the split doesn't happen? How do you see that? Well, that's what I'm saying is it may, the Nick's end may have eventually drug. I mean, they had to break up sooner or later, but Nick's end would have drug. Jarrett's end down more. Well, that's the big thing, I guess. Do you think the breakup had to happen, or is there a way that for the next four or five years,

Nick and Jerry Jarrett are partners and Jerry Jarrett's running the show? I don't think Nick and Jerry could have been partners because Nick would have rather been partners with George. That's the problem to begin with. George Goulis was the reason why Jared finally said, I'm not bringing George to Memphis. I've seen what he's done to these other towns. or what he's doing to these other towns. They were still okay, but they wouldn't be long.

Without Nick being able, even though it was two territories in under one basic office, Nick still had access to guys that were coming into work for Jarrett and vice versa. So his town stayed strong even if Jared wasn't booking him. But when it was a choice, you had to go to Tennessee to work for either Jerry Jarrett or Nick Goulis, all the talent came to work for Jarrett. And Nick's territory, same thing as Sheik and Bruiser. Sheik was making shots. It was Luke Graham, the Sheik, Abdullah the But it was the Over the Hill gang,

plus George and others that Nick could afford. And that's what killed Chattanooga, Birmingham, and he lost Birmingham to the Fullers. He lost Chattanooga to Georgia, and then he finally ended up selling Nashville to Jarrett for a mercy payoff three years after the split. Because he just couldn't get the talent, and the booking was old, the territory was stale,

and he was still featuring George. He didn't learn anything. Were there ever issues pre-split with Lawler? Actually, I don't know. How much was Lawler working? Nashville pre-split? And were there ever issues about him not working there enough considering how much he had in Memphis? He worked Nashville all the time when Nick owned it because he was still living in Nashville. Finally, with Jared split off, that's when he moved to Memphis

and he didn't want to work Nashville on Saturday nights. But he was at Nashville a lot in the days when he was working with Fargo and Dundee and all those guys. You know, he was an attraction in Nashville. And that's why 74, 75, 76 was really strong. And then 77, all the established talent people gave a shit about went to work for Jared and Nick was bringing in, you know, guys that he could afford and he had George and Bobby Eaton blessing. Do you think Jerry Jarrett's wrestling would have done better than as good as just about the same,

whatever it may be, to southeastern wrestling, which would get a lot of those towns. Yeah, you know, I think Chattanooga had been with Goulos and Welch since like 1950, I believe. But it made more sense geographically to be part of the Georgia territory. And the TV was after Nick and Roy had Harry Thornton as a partner, a local Chattanooga TV personality and morning show host, etc. That's where they had the great run, where they would do, they'd sell 20,000 tickets a month sometimes at the old Chattanooga Memorial Auditorium,

weekly shows. But by the mid-70s, Chattanooga's so close to Atlanta, they're seeing these big main event, all the top stars in the NWA coming into Atlanta, and they're still getting Nick's guys. And so Chattanooga just kind of, Nick started bringing in, Georgia talent to help draw, and they ended up taking it over. And with Birmingham, that was the same thing. The Fullers just took it.

They had better talent, a better show, and all Nick was left with was Nashville. The Georgia War, what happens if Van Gunkel wins? What happens if somehow, and, you know, it's crazy to try to figure out the scenario that it would happen, based on everything that did happen and the problems they had? But if by 1974, the NWA Georgia office was getting their ass kicked and Gunkle promotions was winning, what happens next? If Gunkle had been able to prevail in Atlanta, that still wouldn't mean that the NWA thought any better about them. And I think the problems would have existed that they still, let's say that the same talent, because you've said, and it's true, that Gunkel couldn't get any talent,

and it just got stale and stagnant, and she had nobody to bring in to replace the people that were over initially for her, right? That still would have been the case. Even if she'd won in Atlanta, even if those guys in Atlanta would have drawn money for the next five years straight, I think it would have damaged Atlanta

in terms of being a wrestling center. The TV ratings would not have stayed as high to keep the two-hour Saturday night block. And it certainly wouldn't have been the late 70s must-see cable TV show with stars from all over the country, from Florida, from Georgia, from the WWWF, from wherever, everybody from Dusty to Andre, if it had just been Ann Gunkel, and the rest of the promoters still cutting her off for major name talent,

So then technically, even if she'd been successful in Atlanta, it wouldn't have been a national product that would have sold on television that people who would have watched that would have turned into Georgia Championship Wrestling, the top-rated station on TBS that would have turned into Crockett's program that would have turned into WCW. So she may have won the war, but then there wouldn't have been the other two wars the next 20 years. What do you think? Do you see the NWA accepting her? If she wiped out Georgia Championship Wrestling, again, I don't know how that would happen.

If Barnett doesn't come back, and somehow she wins with the talent she has, if there's no one else running against her, and again, I don't know how that would happen. Would the NWA accept her, you think? well would she have wanted the NWA to accept her? Would she have applied? If she was still doing well, think about that. If it was the key to talent, if it was the key to more talent. Well, but then at the same time, the NWA'd be pissed.

See, the bruiser, nobody, he didn't really use NWA talent, but nobody fucked with him for owning his home state. It was coexistence, right? And that had happened in other places, but not. an NWA office hadn't been come, hadn't had some opposition come in and run them off and put them out of business and take over a market. Can you think of it? San Francisco, Joe Malkowitz got taken over by Ray Shire, or Roy Shire, rather.

Ray was his brother. Ray was his brother, yes. Well, it's late in the day. but at the same time I just saw letters I mentioned I think the other day from Gilsenberg to Jack Fepfer said I guess

poor old Joe's never going to use territory sorted out they knew that with Goulos and Jared they knew the NWA knew this our member is an idiot and he's going to lose this so we're not even going to fuck with it

but when when it was a legitimate office doing well and he's up starts take everything and fucking go off. They wouldn't have taken a loss very well of one of their major markets. They would have probably tried to fight. But I can't, I can't see An Gunkel prevailing and that company being the national powerhouse that the Georgia program turned out to be, that the Crockett program turned out to be, and then the WCW turned out to be.

so it might have helped her in the short run, but it would take it away a big opposing soldier in the war against New York. Well, one way or another, Tom Renesto was booking. Jim, one final question here this week. This was sent by Bobby Lamar Shea, or CA, I don't know what this is. Jim, what is the cure for the summertime blues? Well, there ain't no cure for the summertime blues. With that, we are out of here.

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