Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 404: Jim Reviews SummerSlam 2025

Episode Date: August 8, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 They're long and sloppy this week, like the wrestling. Hello again, friends. And you are our friends. We may have missed a few notes, but we're here to recap all of them today. Welcome to another edition of Jim Cornedge Drive-Thru, a special edition, Jim's deep dive into SummerSlam, 2025, two nights of spectacular action, the best weather we've had all summer here in New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:00:59 I'm rambling. Yes. I'm your host, the great Brian last, and here he is, the reviewer himself, the leader of the cult of Cornett, Mr. Jim Cornett. The best weather you've had in a while and you spin it like that, suckers, and as far as a deep dive out of there, there's no water in the pool. I could hoist myself. You know, I was ready to say going into this thing that at least, the W. At least the WWE,
Starting point is 00:01:38 see how I rewound that. At least the WWE had the kindness and the compassion to do their six and a half to seven hour show in two parts instead of AEW where they just shat it all out
Starting point is 00:01:53 like projectile diarrhea. But I'm not sure, because then you get a break in a middle where you think you're almost free and then you have to go back to it and you see more of the same thing that always happens. A.W's paperviews, I should say, are like going out with your best friends and having the greatest, wildest night of your life and you're going to sleep late the next day. Who are you friends with? And you're going to sleep
Starting point is 00:02:25 late the next day and you're going to have a really bad hangover. But then the day after that, you'll be back to back to normal. W.W.E's are, you go out for a few drinks, but somehow you feel really woozy and you get a shitty night's sleep and then you wake up and you do it all again,
Starting point is 00:02:40 knowing there's more right around the corner. It's a different feeling. So it's, what you're saying is, is AEW is binge drinking, whereas WWE is more like a habitual problem, a systemic pattern of abuse. Yeah, I think there's a difference between
Starting point is 00:02:59 abuse and addiction. And I think AEW is like wrestling addiction for their fans, and then WWE is like wrestling abuse for its fans. I think that's a very good distinction. Oh, it's abusing me. I'll tell you what, it's abusing me, ladies and gentlemen, SummerSlam weekend is come and gone, and I feel used and abused.
Starting point is 00:03:27 I will say, before we start talking about this epic that we witnessed from the swamps of New Jersey, as I believe Michael Cole said, I had a wonderful time Saturday. I had a wonderful day Saturday because Saturday morning, it was like 62, 63 degrees outside about 7 o'clock at the castle. It had not been below 70 degrees the entire. month of July at any time of the day or night here in this town. And we dropped the dew point, got the humidity out of here, and I had one of the Monroe brothers, Alf Monroe. Ralph couldn't come. She was on vacation and Pigeon Forge.
Starting point is 00:04:14 But Alf came over and I got outside for the first time in three months since it's been so miserable and oppressive and hot and swampy. and I did yard work and we weeded the flower beds around the house and I got my limb lopper out and he was up on the dagum roof cleaning the leaf gunk off of the fucking area of the roof there that comes to guy
Starting point is 00:04:39 I don't know what you call that angle and just work, work, work and I had my sweatshirt on and my sweatpants because even though it was not that chilly I don't know if I'm crawling underneath the evergreen bush I don't want to get the poison ivy and you got ticks and various
Starting point is 00:04:59 assorted fucking giant spiders and all types of things out in the wilderness and I sweat it off some poundage Brian and by about four o'clock came and I felt like that I had just been
Starting point is 00:05:14 the pedestrian victim of a hit and run accident on Broadway because I don't use those muscles. I was down on my hands and knees and gripping and pulling weeds and clawing and wheelbarrowing and such. And I don't use a lot. I use my brain muscles more often.
Starting point is 00:05:34 So by the time I finished with all that and took a shower and I weighed myself, guess how much weight I lost Saturday in an eight-hour period? You already skinned bones, eight-hour period of Saturday, pounds. You are a little bit off, five pounds. I lost five pounds. And then I'll have you know that because then I couldn't turn my head, I couldn't lift my arm up, I couldn't bend over, everything heard I was sore. Stacey got me a big bag of dairy queen. And I had some bacon cheeseburgers
Starting point is 00:06:17 and some onion rings and some French fries. And I got one of those big old insulated mugs that they have with the metal mug thing. Well, you put one cube of ice in it and put the top on it, set it out in the Sahara Desert. A week later you come back to cube still. I got one of those and filled it up with ice and kept pouring Sprite zeros in there.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And guess how much weight I gained back by the next morning? six pounds five pounds the same thing i lost i gained it exactly back of course one time i weighed i was wearing socks that might throw the that's five pounds of sprite zero well a couple of double baking cheeseburgers and onion rings and a french fries did probably didn't hurt any but i felt i'd earned it after going out and doing honest toil in the soil considering how healthy for jim cornet you've in, do you ever have one of these celebratory, I don't know if that's even the right word, any of these burgers nowadays and you take a bite and you feel like gross, like, you know, I'm doing such good work.
Starting point is 00:07:28 No, oh God, no way. I don't want to eat this and mess up the progress. No, but besides that, I'm still, I eat a burger of some kind, either self-concocted or something that's been prepared out, you know, regularly still these, I'm just not as is overdoing it and is constantly and I don't have to lose a significant amount of weight now. What are your self-concocted burgers like squirrel and chipmunk?
Starting point is 00:08:00 No, I'm talking to this. I'm the same animal. I'm self-prearing it. I'm cooking it at home. I'm making it to my specifications. Or I can just order out because every burger is different. You can't, you can't duplicate. burgers are like snowflakes, Brian.
Starting point is 00:08:19 You can't duplicate. Everybody's burger is different. Every restaurant, every individual. You can start with the same ingredients, but it's the way it's prepared. You're going to come completely different every time. That's why only God can make a tree, but he can't make everybody's burger for them.
Starting point is 00:08:42 See, you've heard that old saying. I've never heard that expression ever. Well, that's what they used to say when I was a kid. I don't know. Who are these people? All of the people. The people used to say this. All of the people.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Wow, we were a united culture around this saying. I had no idea. Most people agreed about things back in the old days. It's only when Twitter came along and we realized everybody was a goddamn idiot. Your hamburger sucks. Fuck you. I hate anyone who eats hamburgers like you. Die hamburger boy.
Starting point is 00:09:18 All righty then. But yeah, so I had a wonderful day Saturday. I was getting ready because I knew my next 48 hours, and it hadn't even been 48 hours yet. We're still early on the Monday. I knew that was going to be just hell on earth from the overabundance and overindulgence and oversaturation of the thing that happens over and over again.
Starting point is 00:09:48 All right. happy talk. And Jim, we have a lot of modern wrestling to get to. And today, this will be a special drive-through. That'll be pretty much all we get to, because there's a lot to talk about and things coming out of this. Well, don't say that. It's going to take us so long to delve into this.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Basically say it's a big pay-per-view spectacular show. And then we're going to be coming back with more before you know it in the next few days. That's the way you, you pray. You don't say it's, you watch. just all we're going to do today. Well, there's going to be a lot of action. Like, we're just sitting here with our dicks in our hands. We prepared for this shit.
Starting point is 00:10:27 I got notes. All right. Well, good. My dick is in my pants, ladies and gentlemen, for the record. Before we get to the contemporary action. Your hands in your pay, your hands could be in your pants. My hands are right here on the desk. Or is that my dick?
Starting point is 00:10:41 You'll never know. Put your hands on the radio, ladies and gentlemen. and All right, well, Jim, before we get to the contemporary action, as I was saying, a couple of quick mentions here because some books landed on my desk.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I just want to give everyone a mention. Sean Delaney has a new book The History of Professional Wrestling in Evansville, Indiana, 1970 to 1971. It's been up for a few weeks. You're just getting it now? It just arrived. Sorry for the delay, it says.
Starting point is 00:11:15 But there it is. And also, he sent another book. I don't know when this. came out, worked. The true story of a professional wrestler caught between the FBI and the Tennessee judge, they wanted to take down.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Well, that sounds like it's even worse than getting caught between the moon and New York City. Well, there it is. Check them out. And thank you, Sean, for sending it. I do appreciate it. And we would talk more about the Evansville book, but we already did. Just Brian didn't have it at that point. And I want to mention this. The old address gimmick.
Starting point is 00:11:45 This is right down my alley, and I'm so in love with these. Not Teal just put out three books, professional wrestling and comic strips, illustrations, cartoons, and clip art, volumes one through three. I know it just rolls right off the tongue. But these are incredible. If you are a nerd, a mark for old newspapers, old newspaper comics, wrestling's coverage in old newspapers, wrestling art, these are extraordinary.
Starting point is 00:12:19 back to the turn of the century. And I don't know if you've received it. The turn of the century before last, as a matter of fact. Well, that's right. Two centuries ago, that turn. Yes. It was a big turn, ladies and gentlemen, it was the biggest turn of the year. Turn of the century.
Starting point is 00:12:35 It comes up to more modern times. It's chronological is what it is. It goes in order. But I agree, it is fascinating. They are fascinating. and in more explanatory terms, Scott has taken not only just like stories from the newspaper on wrestling or illustrations, like,
Starting point is 00:12:58 but also comic strips that had an ongoing pro wrestling storyline from various eras and or posters that have been drawn that were, the old-fashioned, try to figure out how to describe these now, the old-fashioned sports collages that the artist used to do of the famous baseball player or the football player or whatever, what it pertains to wrestling. So it's for illustrations and comic fans, art fans, and wrestling fans, it's a very, as you said, nerdy conglomerate there. I love it. It's fantastic. I have it here in the office.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Three books set by Scott Teal, Crowbar Press.com. Check it out. If you're someone who enjoys the wrestling history lessons like, you know, Ed Strangler Lewis and Jim Landis and Frank Gotch, the terrible Turk, that time and so much more. Check out these books. I'm such a big mark for these, I have to say. Well, yeah.
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Starting point is 00:14:56 to this big weekend of action from WWE here in the tri-state area. They were in New Jersey for SummerSlam, but there's one thing that we have to talk about on Friday on Smackdown in Brooklyn. This was, in some ways, astounding. this was an about face. This was talking about time of the century.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Bobby Ewing in a shower? Bobby Ewing in a shower, perhaps. Yeah, Bobby Ewing in the shower, I think is a good example. Unreal is on where they show everything that set up the heel turn for John Sina, but on Smackdown, we got to see them take down the hill turn for John Sina. What are your thoughts on all this? This is the first time that I've ever seen I think anywhere, them just come out and basically without saying the words say,
Starting point is 00:15:47 yeah, we, we fucked this whole thing up so far. And they did say the word crazy idea. We listen to this dip shit, his pimply-faced fucking accomplice that slunk in, and it fucked up all of our shit, and now we just, we're just, we're going to drop it. folks if you didn't know john sina and cody roads had their last confrontation or discussion as it turned out before somerslam before the big title match the big street fight the big grudge settler they fucking seda kicked him in the balls and stole his belt and fucking said awful horrible thing remember brad when i said that one promo he did about the fans was so goddamn brutal and personal. And I said, how do you ever apologize for that? What act could he ever commit that would, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:50 would possibly atone for saying that about those people? He didn't even worry about it. He just, you know what? I'm going to take my head out of my ass now. I don't know what I was thinking. And that was it. he can't Cody you've been saying that you want the real John Cena
Starting point is 00:17:12 you've been saying that I'm bad or whatever I thought about it you're right okay this is over what was that it was so weird now let's have a street fight no I forgot about the stipulation that's right
Starting point is 00:17:30 here's the here's this oh god damn it oh god they finally broke me they're coming to take me away ha ha ha he he So Sina comes out, he does the entrance, and they pop for him, but they still sing John Sina sucks, you know, in the mix chants and everything. And he's the stone face where he just milks his big introduction and gets the cheers and the booze, and then they chant again.
Starting point is 00:17:58 And he does say a word, and then they play Cody's music. And here's another long-ass entrance where they sing his song. and whoa and Cody Cody Rhodes Cody Rhodes and we're 10 minutes into the show before the first word that one of the talent says and it's John Sina he said I got to tell you something Cody I told you
Starting point is 00:18:25 I was too tired for SummerSlam I was exhausted I didn't know I didn't want to have a street fight but you assaulted me had you forged my signature on a contract for the most dangerous match in the WWE thank you this was the boot in the ass I needed he has impressionable people if he had said to them personally what he said to people all over the world on TV
Starting point is 00:19:03 the last six months, that my guy, they'd have been hospitalized with mental anguish. But you know, I made a reputation on hustle, loyalty, and respect. And now I realized I just flushed it down the toilet to follow somebody's crazy idea to make shocking television. And then they all left, they went back to wherever they came from, and I'm here. Basically,
Starting point is 00:19:33 and in Rock, it is fucking retinue, the Rocky Retinue. They fucking bail because of the rapper and all these fucking people. Because they're, whatever the fuck. And I'm left alone pretending
Starting point is 00:19:50 I'm something I'm not. Because as we will recall, apparently the Rock was so adamant about Cody Turner. And Cody was equally adamant about that would be, insane. And then they went to John and John's like, okay, I'll try anything.
Starting point is 00:20:08 He's that kind of guy, right? What the fuck, I guess? Differ's it make. But he thought, I'm sure they were going to follow up on it with some shit they told him that apparently has never come to pass. And then the Rock never came back.
Starting point is 00:20:24 And instead we get to see trailers for his movies on the pay-per-view events. And Travis Scott, the word is, even though it seemed like it did not help them. It didn't get them any buzz. There weren't Travis Scott fans diving into wrestling. The word was, he's a really big fan.
Starting point is 00:20:41 We want to embrace this. You won't believe what a big fan he is. And unlike Jelly Row who apparently moved into the developmental center to train, Travis Scott couldn't be found again. And now Drew's calling him with some fucking asshole. All the wrestlers, I saw Biggie or maybe it wasn't Biggie. It was someone I just saw on WWTV. Same thing, running them down for taking five.
Starting point is 00:21:03 minutes to get to the ring. So they're all just going to town on them now. But so, so basically then Cody is standing there and Sina launches into the, and Sina can talk for God's sake and has the expressive face and fucking knows what to do. And you try to tell me, Cody, but I didn't listen and you forced me into a fight. and then he he did the fired up baby face promo with his voice cracking by the time he was finished the fans cheered it and started chanting sina sina and he says the fans are the real winners on sunday you want some come get some the only well as a matter of fact then he said the only platinum rapper showing up is me and he actually dropped the microphone literally and the people
Starting point is 00:21:59 went absolutely crazy. And Cody's standing there. He looked like the cop on the first day on a job that I described in the story about Vince peeling off and throwing gravel at his face, only it was shit. He was like, what is he going to say?
Starting point is 00:22:17 So he didn't say anything. He asked for two beers apparently now. We know that the fucking ringside crew is just down in the real Americas in the commercial break, right? because they had two beers standing by at ringside. And he said, welcome back John Sina,
Starting point is 00:22:35 and they shook hands and drank two cans of Hulk Hogan's beer. And Cody left, and the fans were cheering John Sina. And what the fuck is happening? So now they just came out and said, we fuck this whole thing up. We're sorry. We're just going to... We decided the day before the pay-per-view that,
Starting point is 00:22:58 we're just going to change things up right now. The whole thing was bizarre. Cody Rhodes managed to be in an angle with John Sr. here on Smackdown, which was the main thing on Smackdown, in the main event of SummerSlam, winning the title, and on both occasions he's an afterthought. He's not the interesting party in any of this. Well, and he's being booed when he gets his belt back that the gas stole from him
Starting point is 00:23:29 after he fucking kicked him in the balls and all that shit. And then they figure out a way to make he gets his belt back. Oh, fuck. I mean, they cheered him still, but they were booing him in the match. And again, do you think on unreal next year, whatever, are they going to tell us what this was supposed to be before the last couple weeks? And were they just, say, what the fuck? Well, again, we do need to still watch the rest of the first run of that show.
Starting point is 00:24:05 They just renewed it. Well, yeah, but I have a feeling, and if that show has been finished and edited for the past week, even, that they might not have had the same outcome in mind. I'm serious, though. Cody's an afterthought. Your whole thought coming out of that was, this was the turn? It wasn't even about Cody at that point. It was just, Tina just said, okay, I'm a baby face again.
Starting point is 00:24:29 the day before SummerSlam, well, two days before their match. And then he wins the title. Nobody's talking about it. Nobody gives a shit that he won the title. And who's he going to work with? I mean, I think it just creates something, you know, tonight on Raw or whenever.
Starting point is 00:24:49 But is there anything that they've set up for him to do, anyone for him to work with other than, like if Roman decided he wanted a title, but then you have baby face for his baby face again. So wouldn't be... And also, let's clarify... because I saw a lot of people before, after
Starting point is 00:25:05 the Smackdown promo, but before the match at SummerSlam, it's going to be a double turn. This was not a day, even though the people were booing Cody during the match, it was not a double turn. I think it's worse, because at least if Cody had come out of it,
Starting point is 00:25:23 if he'd kicked him in the balls and left him for fucking Brock to chew his carotid artery or whatever, that Cody may be better off than now. Now, because it wasn't a double turn. Cody didn't turn.
Starting point is 00:25:39 He just became the fucking also ran. Second place, sad kick in this whole thing. But he did not turn, so therefore he's just, the people just wanted to see the guy that kicked him
Starting point is 00:25:54 and the balls win more. Is the dream over now and now he's back to being a baby face scene? Or is it not over really until he officially has his last match in a few months. Because after that point, he's gone, like, he's right now the center being, what they did at the pay-per-view, that's what you want to see what's going to be next with this. But in a few months, it's over.
Starting point is 00:26:17 In a few months, Cody has to step up again, not that he has to step down, but they need Cody ready to be a top guy again. And right now, more people are booing him than any time in WWE since he returned. Well, do they, you know, we'll talk more of the, at it. We get to the finish of the last thing, but do they have Brock somehow make himself such a heel by savaging Sina before his retirement that then Brock, Cody feels that he has to slay Brock to close this whole thing up? I don't fucking know. Who sent Brock? At this point, we're one step closer to Vince being back on TV. Maybe Vince is behind.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Vince is behind the whole Sina year, we'll find out. Sable sent Brock. Oh. Sables said, get out of the fucking house once in a while. Go make $10 million. Well, that was the John Sina baby-faced turn. I guess that's the only thing we can call it. A very interesting thing.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Jim, John Sina brought up platinum rappers. Yes. And whether it's platinum rappers or platinum pop star. Platinum rock stars. I don't think there are any platinum classical stars, but whatever kind of music you like, Platinum Max Caster, you could listen to that music
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Starting point is 00:32:19 That's right. Buy raycon, let's just stress that. Buy raycon.com slash JCE. Yes, that's stressed. Well, Jim, a stressful weekend. If you are a wrestling fan running around, of course, if you're in the more
Starting point is 00:32:33 wrestling. There were wrestling conventions in different parts of the country. They were all sorts of independent events. But the main event, of course, SummerSlam, according to them, the biggest summer slam of all time. Two nights in East Rutherford, New Jersey, MetLife Stadium. Let's talk about night one. Well, it was definitely the longest summer slam of all time and attendance wise, because they get to count two nights, you know, it'd be hard for one of the one-night summer slams to have a bigger attendance than a two-night, wouldn't it? When you get right down to it, if you're just talking factual, what did SummerSlam do? Well, is SummerSlam in the, in the, the big SummerSlam they had in the 80s?
Starting point is 00:33:26 Where was it in Wembley Stadium? That was in 1992. There were only two summer slams in the 80s. Madison Square Garden for the debut in 88, and of course the second one in East Rutherford, New Jersey, SummerSlam, 89, feel the heat. All right, Randy McNally. I'm just saying it, when 92, they had 70,000 people or whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:45 For Bulldog and Brett, right? That's right. Well, is it fair to their incredible achievement to be able to add the total attendance from two nights and beat that? It still doesn't seem fair. Well, the other thing is beyond attendance, and this may sound like a crazy thing to a promoter like you,
Starting point is 00:34:10 but beyond attendance, sometimes, you know, what's the biggest event? It's more than just the attendance, it's the actual matches and the things that matter and people are buzzing for. And it didn't feel like this was the biggest SummerSlam ever in that respect. Well, that's part of it also is, I've said this before, but on pay-per-view, on television, every moment used to count. And even though
Starting point is 00:34:36 what entertained Vince McMahon sometimes wasn't necessarily entertaining to the rest of the world, he got mad when you had TV where nothing was happening and nothing entertaining was going on at that particular time. You know,
Starting point is 00:34:52 they had a wonderful hour and 45-minute fucking show each night. took them three hours, 15 minutes to do it. But I think part of it you can't get a flow between the commercials and the travel logs and the spots for the sake of the spots and the little advertising placements
Starting point is 00:35:14 and the reads and the guests and the drawn out entrances just by the fact that they got to walk fucking three and a half miles in a stadium to get to the ring. It just, it brings the the energy down and then there was a couple of big things
Starting point is 00:35:36 that you mentioned Brian where people wanted to see what was going to happen with Sina and Cody. They wanted to see to some extent what was going to happen with jelly roll, I'm sorry to say, but because it was spread out over, it was diluted so much
Starting point is 00:35:52 but just let's have 12 matches and we can have everybody on the card because we've got two nights to fill. There's no urgency anymore and there's no like, God damn, this. We used to attack angles, even in the 90s, WWF days, much less than the 80s when it was really important, attack angles and issues and the card and have we got it right
Starting point is 00:36:16 because it meant success or failure and feast or famine and baloney or fucking fillet. And now they're making sense. so much goddamn money, and I'm not talking about the boys, not trying to talk about everybody. They're making so much money, and they can just do this shit, and let's just, let's spend a couple minutes on pyro here. Do you see what I'm saying? Do you understand what I am saying?
Starting point is 00:36:45 I do. That's the way I felt, too. I mean, there are moments. WWE is now built on giving people big moments, big surprise pops, more than, I don't know, more than the matches or anything else. there were certain things that click but a lot of stuff is just happening and people are staring at it
Starting point is 00:37:05 but it doesn't seem, again, it doesn't seem as hot, doesn't seem you use the word urgent. It doesn't seem to be a lot of that. I've said it for a while this whole year since the beginning, since the Royal Rumble, has kind of felt off. Some of that's the rock, some of that's the scene of heel turn,
Starting point is 00:37:26 but it's more than that. they're almost just giving you enough to propel things to the next thing but they're barely giving you anything like they used to it seems like meanwhile they're charging more they're selling more they're doing great business and maybe down a little bit from the peak
Starting point is 00:37:46 but they're doing extraordinary business and not giving away too much well and what do you say down a little bit from the peak as far as selling live event tickets maybe but the TV money and all the sponsorship and the bribes that the cities are giving them to please come here and all that's that's why I say it's just if you every once in a while you'll have a good little wrestling match if you can just wade through all this stuff and speaking to which oh who is Breeland who is Breeland who is
Starting point is 00:38:17 Breeland who sang the national anthem it's like listening to one of the chipmunks slowed down I'm not too familiar with Mr. Breeland why couldn't they had Cardi B because she's a singer, right? Why couldn't she had done the National Anthem and we could save some time because she was the host because she's a singer who didn't sing. She's more of a rapper than a singer and also rapping in the studio is a little different
Starting point is 00:38:41 than singing the national, not even the national anthem, America the Beautiful. Or whatever the fuck it. Well, Breeland did it. It wasn't like just because he couldn't sing. It meant anything to him. It's so awkward too when they have some people like Breeland and there were two young ladies
Starting point is 00:38:56 who did a country rendition of the national anthem again of God bless America the next night. And then later on they show them in the crowd. I guess before they're shuffled away so someone else could sit in those seats. The crowd doesn't react. The crowd reacted a little bit more to WWE icon Stephanie McMahon naturally. But like the people they have singing there, they don't react to. And then they go to like a commercial for something else.
Starting point is 00:39:24 I mean, there was a lot of commercials and some of it seemed like had nothing to do with wrestling at all. It's just like, oh, this is a commercial. And, you know, again, they're with a company that represents a lot of different people, a lot of different talent, and there's a lot, there's a lot going on. There's no skyline of East Rutherford, New Jersey, the thing, so they showed the view of New York City from East Rutherford. I've seen that many times, but back to Cardi B. I'd heard the name before. So nobody could say I didn't know who Cardi B. was, I knew that there was a Cardi B. I just had no visual
Starting point is 00:40:02 reference and I've never heard her speak. So I have two questions. One, is that who Mercedes Mone is trying to be? And secondly, is her gimmick that she screams incoherently at people
Starting point is 00:40:18 that she's never met just because she's so excited. I don't think Mercedes is based on her. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. And secondly, I don't think she does too any promos, so I don't think that's really your gimmick. I think she just... I get these people sing and do the thing, but not too many people give them a mic and say, here, go out there and do a
Starting point is 00:40:36 promo. So she was excited. She seemed to be in doing. She was wearing a preposterous dress. She said nothing, contributed nothing, screamed like a banshee. We had to listen to some of her rotten
Starting point is 00:40:52 song, and then it was over. And she couldn't even be bothered to sing the rotten song on her way out. What good is she? What did she do here? What purpose did she serve? Again, did they sell a bunch of tickets when they say,
Starting point is 00:41:10 Oh, Cardi B is going to be here. Oh, shit, got to go now. Wouldn't have touched it with a goddamn 10-foot pole before. No, they used to use any celebrity they could, like in the old days, but they would really hype them up to be bigger than you thought they were. Bob Euker will be that. You would think Bob Euker was like the biggest actor in the world. world. And he was great. You know, but they would hype people up. And I think the goal was that
Starting point is 00:41:35 people would actually want to see this person somehow involved in the wrestling. Liberace, Muhammad Ali, whatever. They barely built up the Cardi B thing. They announced she was hosting a while back. And I don't think anyone gave a shit. And it's not even about her at that point. Well, that was pretty much it for her, right? The open thing here? Because I've tried to get through. They showed her in the crowd. That's where she ought to be. So then we started out with the tag team match. And it was a bright-ass day in New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:42:08 The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, it doesn't have the nice ambiance till he gets dark up there. But by the time that Jay Uso yeeded through the entire stadium and got to ringside, and thank God he must have felt like, because thank God Roman was next, because he got like five more minutes to breathe, Jay. And Roman was in about five minutes later, and then here came the
Starting point is 00:42:35 bronze, read and breaker. And they rang the bell for the first match. It was already 20 minutes into the show. But again, I think they started off with probably the, definitely
Starting point is 00:42:54 the future of the company and probably the best athletic display and they kind of tapered down from there over the course of the weekend. But I love Bronson Reed and Bronbreaker as a tag team with Paul Heyman. And whether or not Seth Rawlins, we'll get to that, whether or not Seth Rawlins was involved in the group, that strengthens it.
Starting point is 00:43:23 But if you made Bronn Breaker and Bronson Reed, the tag team champions and make them a regular tag team while Seth Rollins is in a group as the world champion. And then later on, there can be tension because they've clearly, well, first, with the tag team champions, then they could just mow down all of the other tag teams that were in that stupid ladder match on the roster
Starting point is 00:43:56 because they've made all of them equal and meaningless on the mid-cart. Just beat them all. And then top guys would have to start teaming up to try to face and conquer Reed and breaker. And that might even be something that renovated the Uso's for a short run to help Jimmy out a little bit, if nothing else. There's my yard mowers.
Starting point is 00:44:26 But then you'd have a tag team, set of tag team, champions that meant something and you'd have some action in the tag team division that you could put at the top of the cards and at the same time then because they've clearly placed Bronbreaker ahead of Bronson Reed in the pecking order because they know he is of the future star and he can talk and blah blah blah then eventually you could have issues between Bronbreaker and Seth Rollins over who is the dominant guy in the group, much less tag team or single or whatever. And then you could do whatever you wanted out of that.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Do you see where I'm going with this, Brian? I like the idea that they could do something to elevate these guys and put them in this group and elevate the tag team title at the same time. And, you know, with tag teams like Roman Reins and fucking Jay Uso, then as baby faces to challenge them or the Uso's or whatever, you might start making people think the tag team belts are important again. Yeah, I mean, I agree with you. I mean, I'll just say it here.
Starting point is 00:45:40 I'm kind of not enthused about more Rollins. I was really looking forward to him being out for a long time with a knee in. Even after we started thinking it could be at work, I was like, no, I really just want him off Raw for an extended period of time. I had really sold myself on liking the idea that Paul gave the case to Braun Breaker. It would have been better. Hey, listen, if night one ended with Bronbreaker coming out there to cash in, I would have been happier. I know people were happy because they heal whose song they like to sing one.
Starting point is 00:46:10 But I think, I was really looking forward to an extent. God damn, in that case, Elton John could have been a hell of a wrestler. But anyway, this tag team match, I'm not going to go blow back. by blow. But they all four know what they're doing to some extent. Jay, again, the timing issues and the, you know, the whole thing, but they're over. Bronbreaker is the future of the business. You know, again, they set up at one point. They set up what I thought was going to be the hottest hot tag that I'd seen in a while in this whole company. Jay was about to make it to Roman and the heels with perfect timing.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Right as Jay dove, they jerked Roman off the apron of the ring, so that Jay missed. So it was a great hot tag attempt and a great foil. But then when Jay turned around and a minute later, DDTed Bronson Reed and Roman got back up to the apron and they just did simultaneous tags. I mean, it was a big pop for Roman anyway because they wanted to see him come in. But they made the perfect hot tag just seconds earlier, except they didn't actually make it. It was a false hot tag. And then the real hot tag was,
Starting point is 00:47:34 blah, simultaneous. There you go. I was like, fuck. But nevertheless, you know, the same shit, the pattern starts where there's a, you know, the big dives. and Roman hit a big dive where he actually went over both of the heels
Starting point is 00:47:55 almost. It took a giant backdrop to the floor and it got back up. And they teased Bronbreaker and Roman Rains, which everybody wants to see at some point. But then they would get broken off into some other combination but there is some more
Starting point is 00:48:14 dives where Bronson Reed I think it was dove on both of the baby faces and went right threw him face first, but thankfully he was okay. And the Braun Breaker brought out the old Steiner Bulldog, they gave it to Uso. But they just... What did you think of the Roman dive where he cleared both
Starting point is 00:48:37 Braun and Bronson. Well, yeah, no, that's the one where he took that big, it looked like he took a giant backdrop, just a big double backdrop over to the floor. But that's the thing is that they're all doing these fucking things and they've set in a pattern that nothing can stop anybody. And I liked
Starting point is 00:48:56 Bronbreaker. He had taken the straps down once to fucking, you know, go crazy. And then he got mad and he put him back up to take him back down again. I mean, this kid is going to make tens of millions of dollars. It's just, it's insane.
Starting point is 00:49:11 I haven't seen anybody this good in fucking 20 years. But nevertheless, after all of that, you know, they're almost kill each other. they fucking, you know, the finishes over and over. Then Uso hit Reed with a super kick and splashed him one, two, three. So I wrote at the bottom, a pleasure to watch Braun Breaker so good, so young,
Starting point is 00:49:38 rest of it, too many stunts, and a little long over 20 minutes. I forgot about the spear through the barrier. They did that. Remember when you had never seen anybody get speared through the barrier? Oh, shit. Look at that. It's every week. And now it's the same place every time too.
Starting point is 00:50:00 And they think, it's, I know when people go to see the fucking Rolling Stones in concert, they want to hear Jump and Jack Flash, but how can the most shocking thing that's ever happened happen at every show? But nevertheless, I'm being nitpicky already. Brian, your thoughts while I regained my composure. I thought it was okay. You know, it was the opening match.
Starting point is 00:50:26 They wanted to get people going. Braun Breaker. I agree. So impressive. Jay Uso was really pissing me off. He was just calling spots. I thought he was just talking to the person while throwing punches. Just standing here talking.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Is, you know, it's a problem show wide. Cina's always been bad. I haven't saw Gunther do it. Is it that guys are sloppier now or lazier now or just don't protect it now? Or is it that everything being an HD? and mics so well, even though it's more visual than audio, that we see it more than ever before. A combination of all those things.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Because you definitely, well, that's one thing. When we got to world class, me and the Men I Express in Dallas in 85, the guys that told us they've got microphones on the ringposts. And that was one good thing about working for working for, working with, I wish we were working for the fantastic, working with the fantastics every night for six months. We may not have gotten matches with the Von Erick's worth. Big money was, but we didn't have to talk to Bobby and Tommy.
Starting point is 00:51:35 They didn't call shit. We knew it already. We just did it every night, right? But that was, that was an anomaly at the time where you didn't have microphones like they, and especially like they do now, all around the ring on the posts and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:51:53 So part of it is that, yes, you can hear more of it now, but still, and the visually, HD has a little bit to do with it, but when they've, they've had great camera work for 25, 30 years, whatever, and guys have gotten, I think, more in the habit of it just being accepted or something they have to do because they're having to go from one pre-planned thing to another. 30 years ago, you could have seen something. Some guys calling spots, but they weren't calling that many spots. There's a difference between calling spots and reminding someone what they have to do next and shit.
Starting point is 00:52:35 We don't have time to sit here in this chin lock and hide it. We're going. We're rushing now. So 30 years ago, the guys were actually calling logical, simple shit for the most part that they could hide and that there wasn't pressure on them to do this ridiculous and who's going to be in the right place and there's 15 people need to catch me or is the furniture here or whatever so that's causing guys i think to have to talk more you can hear it better you can see it better and guys are honestly just looser about it and not not as concerned about it as we would have been back
Starting point is 00:53:20 in the day when you'd have got fired for it Does that make any sense? It does. Well, and it made more sense than the rest of this shot. Now, but anyway, so that was that match. And then they had another match. The women's tag team title was up, Brian, with Roxanne Perez and Rochelle,
Starting point is 00:53:47 defending against Charlotte and Alexa Bliss, one person on each team's six feet tall, the other person's four foot six. People like Charlotte now because she's with Alexa. This is what I'm, the reason why they're cheering Charlotte now is because they like this tag team. To me it looks like Celine Dillon or Celine Dion,
Starting point is 00:54:13 whatever her name is. Celine Dion and Courtney Love is what I'm trying to say. Sure. Is it the, the odd couple? pairing that they like is what I'm trying to find out because why do they they suddenly like Charlotte now because she's teamed up with this this little Chuckie doll carrying pixie. Is that a question? Yes. Yes. I think why would that be? I think Charlotte needed that whether it's Alexa Bliss or someone else
Starting point is 00:54:50 Charlotte needed to be put with someone the fans are predisposed to cheering for for whatever reason to help her and it has and it's kind of again it's exactly what she needed and it's bringing out you know the best in her I think not having to deal with that well I watched a few minutes they were going 100 miles an hour but they were doing it well
Starting point is 00:55:13 it wasn't as sloppy or indie level as you would see the women's matches in the other company and everybody looked like an athlete except Alexa Bliss cannot weigh a hundred pounds, can she? Is she five feet tall?
Starting point is 00:55:32 You're asking a lot of questions, I would assume. Roxanne Perez looks like a luger next to her. She may be in the range of five feet, maybe a little bit bigger than that, and maybe a little bit bigger than a hundred, but that's the general range, I would assume. All right, well, what happened here? Because I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Charlotte and Alexa Bliss won the tag titles to a huge, huge, huge. pop from the fans, and now Roxanne and Raquel, who have enjoyed together, I think that's actually one of the best things on WWATV right now. Now the judgment day does not have the women's tag titles.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Well, that's a shame. And those were lives, and those were Liv's tag titles. Now, see, just by the way, so that everybody doesn't think that oh, he just irrationally praises Charlotte, I didn't watch this because I don't care about the women's tag team title.
Starting point is 00:56:25 But I would like to see Charlotte back in singles competition at some point again against one of two or three other girls on the roster. Otherwise, there's a lot of girls, a lot of girls on this roster, as we've seen. All right. Are you ready, Brian, for the, you've heard of the shot clock in basketball. We've got the bump counter on carrying cross. Did you keep a bump counter? You know, it was taken too long, so I gave up my town somewhere in there after like two. Well, I kept it.
Starting point is 00:57:08 And by the entrance with Carrying Cross and Scarlett, it's shot well and it's very creative, but it seems like kind of a waste of time on, he's going to be where he is right now, isn't he? If they wanted to elevate him, they've had a few chances, it seems like lately, and they decided to not do it. one of those things where he's getting himself over with the fans and WWE saying, not now, just not now. Not now, not now.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Well, Sammy Zane and Carrying Cross, and of course, as we did last time, because it was brought to our attention, that the rumor was, we don't know if this is fact, but a lot of people saying it, but the rumor was that they didn't want to push Carrey and Cross because he was afraid to take bumps. as silly as that sounds, it's unusual. One would think that choosing that line of work, you know, you'd already kind of be past that,
Starting point is 00:58:04 but maybe with the stupid shit they do with furniture, it may have something. If he told them in a past, I'm not going to fall through a bunch of fucking tables, I'm a wrestler. Well, then in that case, I would have respect for him. But nevertheless, for the sake of it,
Starting point is 00:58:21 we thought that last time we would, check and see and he went through the entire match with sammy who is obviously is very easy to work with but he went through the whole match and took like three fucking legitimate bumps right do you remember and what did we say last week when we previewed this i said okay i'm going to say five did i say five maybe i think i said nine you may have said five i don't remember i think because it was summer slam i figured he'd go to five whatever but well here we go ding ding ding ding This is every time that he left his feet, except like if he fucking, one time he slipped and kind of went to a knee, I didn't count that, right? We're talking every time he left his feet, whether it was to deliver an offensive or defensive move, we're going to list it.
Starting point is 00:59:14 And you're going to notice something, Brian, because I notice something now that's added new depth to this potential fucking rumor we've heard. Number one, he got clothes lined over the top rope. He landed on his feet and then collapsed to the floor. But that's a keep track of that. That's one bump he took, right? Number two, he's on the floor. Sammy jumped up on the barrier and did the moonsault. And he caught Sammy.
Starting point is 00:59:47 And as Sammy landed on his feet to the side carrying cross counting, went down easy to the floor. Yeah, is that a bump? Well, that's, technically he caught the guy on the moon salt and went down, so that's a bump, but, but it's very easy, very easy. So there's two. But then he gave Sammy Zane a Death Valley driver. And he gave Sammy Zane a suplex. And he hit the ground really hard on giving those, but we can't count them because they ain't bumps.
Starting point is 01:00:24 He didn't take a bump, he gave a bump. And then he took a standard flat back bump from Sammy's accent. That's number three. And then he took a flat back bump off the axle handle again. There's number four, right? Then he gave Sammy a fisherman suplex. Every time he gives these things, boy, he throws the guy, and he lands with authority.
Starting point is 01:00:57 But when the guy's giving him something and he's just taking it, he just boop, just boop. So then after the fisherman suplex, he took a clothesline and took another flatback bump. There's five. So now that's my estimate. And then he came back and gave a Saido suplex and a bam, just fucking planted Sammy. and then Scarlett handed cross a three-foot-long, quote-unquote, lead pipe that he was supposed to try to secrete underneath him until she could draw the referee.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Like when Tommy Young used to say, Brute Bernard was like just a crazy man. It would go out and get a board from underneath the ring and stick it in the back of his tights. and he'd be sticking six inches up over his head. He'd get back in the ring and tell him, don't see it. So he's got a three-foot lead pipe. She draws the referee. He swings at Sammy Ducks and hits the blue thunder bomb.
Starting point is 01:02:09 And there's number six. And he had to take that son of a bitch because that's Sammy's deal. And then as he's selling, Scarlet comes around and hands the pipe to Sammy. I was saying, well, what a fucking bitch. With girls like that, just hand the guy that wants to beat you up a lead pipe. It's part of the mind games that they're playing,
Starting point is 01:02:37 which don't make any sense. Because then if it was a normal human, Sammy would have just hit the fucking guy with the lead pipe and then shoved it up her ass and called it a day. But instead, he's thinking about it. And then he tossed it out. and cross schoolboyed him, one, two. And then Sammy suplexed
Starting point is 01:02:59 cross into the turnbuckle where he kind of hit. So that's seven, so I'm already shot. And then he took the crumble bump on the haluba kick, one, two, three. So there, so you were closer.
Starting point is 01:03:19 You said nine, there was eight, I said five. but the only times that he ever actually hit the fucking ground hard besides the blue thunder bomb were when he was giving something instead of taking it. And it was eight last time too? No, last time I think it was, well, I'm trying to remember what number we came up with. I think it was only five or six, but only two or three of them were actually legitimate bumps. The other were Oxbakers. So point is, it's fascinating.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Until I see this guy get backdropped over the top rope through a goddamn refrigerator case, I'm going to be convinced that he's the best worker in the business because he's having these matches, and nobody ever sees that he never takes a fucking decent bump. So bravo to him. No one ever sees him get a decent push either. Again, it seemed like he was getting over.
Starting point is 01:04:17 The fans have been into him. He lost to Sammy last time, too, didn't he? Yeah. Okay. Well, I mean, hopefully, Sammy said it's over. Hopefully it really is, because I kind of don't want to see Sammy for a while. It will never be over. And Carian needs, if they're going to do something with him, now's the time.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Either now or never. It's now or never. Well, I think they need to carry on with Carian. Carry on my wayward, son. Yeah. All right. Well, what was next on this? Summertime extravaganza.
Starting point is 01:04:57 Well, one of the many women's championships was up for grabs there with Jade, Cargill, and Tiffy. Tiffy Storm. Our girl Tiffy Tiffy Time. Tiffy Stratton. Tiffy Stratton. Yes. Tiffy, well, I thought she was Lance's daughter.
Starting point is 01:05:16 I didn't know. There was a storm because Jade, she brings a storm with her because she looks like storm from the X-Men. Well, I thought it was because she spent the night in a haunted house and it turned her hair gray. It was a dark and stormy night. Anyway, I'd like, this is your regular reminder.
Starting point is 01:05:37 The ring announcer's hair is ridiculous. I would find her if she showed up to television with that bride of Frankenstein do on. You know, I understand why she left. I understand people wanting to do their own creative things, especially if they are a creative person. And obviously, her husband isn't there anymore and that plays into it. But I really do miss Samantha Irvin on these shows.
Starting point is 01:05:58 She really did. She really did amp things up the right way without making... I know people thought she made herself the show, but I kind of thought it was the opposite. Well, at least she didn't have that hair and she was good at it. But why don't, why don't Shawnee want to do the ring an ounce anymore? That's what we need to find out. She's working on her music. well let her sing them and in this corner
Starting point is 01:06:21 then this magic moment we have the contender see it could be a whole new thing this magic moment I don't know how you threw that in the middle of this the drifters let's go uh let's drift back to this review I could have been singing from under the boardwalk so Tiffy is back to be in a heel even though they liked her a while back
Starting point is 01:06:45 And I know they're going to say, oh, Cornette, you don't pay attention to the women's matches. They did this. Now, you're right. I don't. I don't care. Was she a heel? Well, she's the heel because Jade Cargill was the baby face. I don't think Tiffy's a heel.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Well, she was working like her Tiffy, Tiffany, Stratton. Well, whatever the fuck. Nevertheless, they did fairly. well, this was Jade's best match, I guess, ever probably, because she didn't just, you know, go off the reservation or noticeably, you know, confused or whatever. It wasn't the most complicated thing ever, but they did a number of things.
Starting point is 01:07:32 So there was a pretty rotten-looking, yayboo. But Tiffy did the moonsault and Jade raised the feet and hit her finish. They got the foot on the ropes. And then, of course, Jade had to try to do the finish off the top, and Tiffany had to help climb up there, obviously, because they've all got to do these top rope things that there's no conceivable way you could do without cooperation.
Starting point is 01:07:58 But at least she did the forward roll and foiled Jade, and then out of kind of, sort of nowhere it seemed like, hit the moon salt, boom, one, two, three. but you know I didn't know whether they would beat jade or not but I think they've come to realize that you know she still needs help and tiffy may be not only more accomplished more further along but also just as popular and you know but at least jade didn't she didn't jade it up too bad it obviously they had practiced it beforehand and walked through it many times of whatever but It wasn't rotten.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Am I just, am I getting easier in my old age? No, I thought it was pretty good. And again, I expected the worst. I don't know why, maybe that's unfair, but I thought it was pretty good. Jade getting pinned, cleanly, says something. It was a good competitive match. Obviously, they may not see Jade the same way they did when they first got her from AEW. But it doesn't mean she can't do other things, but she just is not going to be Bianca or Ria.
Starting point is 01:09:12 or any of the top people probably. Now, how old is she? Did we ever talk about that? I mean, we may have a long time ago. Hold on. The Flying Fingers of Google. 33. E. By the time, because we won't count any of her time in AEW against her
Starting point is 01:09:37 because she wasn't learning anything. She's been there for what, about a year, year and a half now? By the time she really gets, any kind of decent experience, she's going to be in her late 30s. But she looks in wonderful shape. I'm sure she takes care of herself and jogs regularly.
Starting point is 01:09:56 So, who knows? Maybe she'll get it one of these days. All right, you know what that means? SummerSlam continues. Oh, all right. And we are still in night one, and now we got a good... Come on, now it got you going.
Starting point is 01:10:15 I got a good attitude going. Night one continues. Well, let's talk about Jelly Roll. You don't talk about jelly roll? You know, I have to, it's an accomplishment. We have to recognize the effort that the man made.
Starting point is 01:10:34 He lost 240 pounds to get to 299 pounds. Did you hear this story? I heard them talking about his weight loss, yes. And I don't think he's been doing it. He didn't start at the performance. and lose 240 pounds in what three months or whatever, obviously. But one of the big feature matches for SummerSlam was Logan Paul and Drew McIntyre against Randy Orton and Jelly Row.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Now, I will say in his defense, he does work better than the other jelly. He is at least somewhat believable. Jelly Roll's life. Jelly Roll's wife is named Bunny X-O. Did you see Bunny, Brian? I'm not familiar with her. No, on mute. I'm not familiar with her.
Starting point is 01:11:36 I don't know anything about Bunny. You didn't see her when they got to- I saw her there and I was the first time. That was the first time I ever saw or heard of her in my life. Well, that's what I'm saying. Did you see her there? Because she's a podcast host. You ought to, she's our competition.
Starting point is 01:11:50 You ought to know who the fuck she is. Better watch out, Bunny. I'm, she's, if you took a picture of jelly roll and you took a picture of Bunny X-O, would you put them together and say, yeah, I bet these two people would be married? Not trying to criticize either one of them.
Starting point is 01:12:12 We'll get back to the match in one second, and this isn't anything about Jelly Roll the person, because I'm, he actually seems like a very nice guy. He actually seems like a perfectly fine, good person. He does. You think somebody held him. down and put all them tattoos on his face? Well, I guess musically is my issue and some of these characters.
Starting point is 01:12:29 I would just, my biggest hope in life is that somewhere right now there's just a group of kids that will grow up and it'll be that era's punk rock and they'll just rebel against all of this, all of this, all of this, all of this sound, all of these people. Just, it's completely out of step with, I don't know, with me and with others. I just, it has to be a punk rock for now that I have. has to be kids saying, fuck all this country glam want to be rap bullshit. Fuck it all.
Starting point is 01:12:59 And fuck these people. I bet you from the looks of Bunny X-O. She said, I'll fuck it all. Man, they used to at least have good gimmick names. John Doe. Oh, okay, that's good. Bunny X, and now it's just letters put together. You don't even know how you're supposed to pronounce it.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Ah, see, you're behind the times, Brian. You're old. Goodbye. You're right, I am. and goodbye to all these people. That's what I say. I need just somewhere some kid has to come up with
Starting point is 01:13:28 good songs and say fuck you to the system and these people. Write about these people, right about get off my TV, you people. Just write that song. Well, there you go. I want to know why you don't look like Bunny X-O. Bunny X-O.
Starting point is 01:13:45 She's a podcast host. How come I don't get her? I get you. Do you think, how much money does Jelly have in his role? I don't know. You know, the money right now is in touring. And I believe he's been touring for a while, and I believe he's opened for some big act,
Starting point is 01:14:00 so he's probably made some good money. Well, to keep Bunny and her podcast, he better. Holy mackerel. He made enough money to say, I'm going to walk away from this for a while and move the Florida to go to the training facility. Walk away from all of what? Bunny and...
Starting point is 01:14:20 The jelly or the rolling? Bunny and the road and the band. Looks like Bunny went with him. If I was him, I wouldn't let Bunny out of my sight. Should we talk about this match? We better. Oh, God, damn. And Logan Paul, again, he is a fucking, he's incredible because he's got to the point now where he knows how to bounce off the guy already.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Because he did, here was the thing, but Jelly's offense for a celebrity wasn't that bad. because the other guys were so good they could bounce off of him, they could feed him, they could bump, they could be in a right place. If you notice, Jelly was most of the time when he was doing things actively, was standing in the same place and other people were coming to him and etc. And that wasn't horrible. But every time, something that required experience, or knowledge or just being good at this.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Mainly when he was on defense, he couldn't sell. He was trying, but he sold like a guy that can't work. It's awkward, it's stiff body movements. There's no flow. But, you know, when a guy never has had a match in front of people and you're trying to get him to work with two of the top guys in the business in front of 50,000 people, he wasn't the most offensive thing I saw all weekend was they can't have a goddamn match in this company without destroying an entire Home Depot.
Starting point is 01:16:05 But, you know, while I would have much preferred him as a special manager to counteract the, you know, the evil Bobby the Brain Heenan, that would have been lovely. he's wrestling but it wasn't it wasn't as bad as it could be but it's still kind of preposterous I guess I don't know compared to some of the other stuff and the following night this wasn't nearly the worst thing of course he did get blown up doing all that stuff but anyway what happened I can't remember somebody oh yeah Logan Paul splashed jelly through the fucking desk at ringside so that could be the viral moment. And everybody's going, oh, look what Jelly Roll did. Jelly Roll fucking laid there.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Logan Paul, the goddamn, he flew 25 feet. It was a frog splash. That guy's insane. Yeah, no, he's incredible. He's one of the great naturals we've ever seen. But I don't know if I would give Jelly Roll any credit for, except for being stupid enough to lay there underneath it because he thought, oh, wow, this will get me over with the boys.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Hey, that was my biggest problem with the match. I liked the match. I actually thought it was all working and the fans were into it and jelly roll, I think, did a really good job. But though, like 10 minutes of him selling that and then walking out of there where they convinced me he was about to keep over and die.
Starting point is 01:17:31 I did for him to make a comeback. I thought that was too much for someone who's not a wrestler. That's when they leaped fully over the Great White Shark is what you're saying. Because that's, again, he didn't do bad and Orton did a lot of stuff and blah, blah, blah, the big splash boom, they're carrying him out or taking him out,
Starting point is 01:17:50 helping him out. And that's when the heels just did nothing forever, but laugh at him as they're so slowly taking him out that you know he's not leaving. And then he turned around and he wanted to come back and got up to the apron of made the, then I'm like, okay, now we can't even hurt a goddamn,
Starting point is 01:18:11 formerly fat, now just chubby singer. and he makes a comeback. End of the clothesline and the choke slam and the Bubba slam. And the people were buying it. But, you know, basically boom, boom, boom. Well, finally, Orton, R.K.O. Drew and Logan Paul posted Orton and then splashed jelly one, two, three. So they beat him, but not until after he made a company.
Starting point is 01:18:44 back like he was dusty roads in the Miami Beach Convention Center. Uh, yeah. But it was an attraction. He got pinned. He seemed to have the right spirit about the whole thing. I thought he wasn't bad in there. And again, the selling, the length of time selling for him to make the comeback, I mean, even though he got pinned, I thought that was too much, but Logan Paul is so impressive.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Yeah. He's just so impressive. and I actually ended up really enjoying this much. Well, then maybe that made up for some you didn't like it at all just because of the celebrity or
Starting point is 01:19:29 no, no, no, I know. That's what I'm saying is I didn't want to like it. He wasn't as bad as I was afraid he might be. It did get over with the people. They did their right shit up until the time that he was murdered and still had to come back and get another comeback. but you know, I just, I just don't know if it was on a more local level.
Starting point is 01:19:54 And I can see, you know, an old fashioned heel team like Wayne Ferris and Larry Latham taking bumps for the, you know, fat local singer or whatever. But it's come to this. Yeah, but he was the smallest person in the ring. That shocked me too. Drew Towers over him, Orton Towers over him. Logan may have been the same height, if not a little bit taller than him. He was the smallest guy in there.
Starting point is 01:20:22 Well, but now we, you're measuring wrong. Instead of from the ground up, measure from the belt buckle around. Oh. See, there it is. There he is. Yeah, I mean, I guess, you know, in some occasions they've won with jelly roll, with bad bunny. Whatever you want to say, they took their celebrity, they came in with the right attitude,
Starting point is 01:20:42 they took it, it seemed like more seriously than some of the people who work there who were just ready to break K-Fabe left and right. And then there's Travis Scott, who came there with the attitude, smacked the champion of the fucking face, and they never came back again. I've been one of these days, Cody's just going to hunt him down
Starting point is 01:21:02 on the street somewhere to get that fucking receipt because he thought he was going to get it in a ring. I bet you some wrestler will, one day. Well, anyway, are you ready for the main event, Brian, of night one for the world championship, one of them, at least. C.M. Punk and Gunther, I will say that the stadium looks better after dark. I've got to mention that.
Starting point is 01:21:32 And we were two and a half hours in. It wasn't that long of a show. The people were up for it. The crowd had been somewhat mild in a lot of spots, except for the holy shit moments. and they loved a jelly roll. But this, again, it started, I was really liking things, and then sometimes they take a turn. But it was the first wrestling match of the night, actually, where they started locking up and shit and wrestling,
Starting point is 01:22:08 and punk was working an arm. And I see what they were going for because of what was going to happen at the end. end. But they had to, they were telling the story that punk just got that shit kicked out of him through this whole thing. He would still keep fighting, but he would get turned back. And finally, after a long and vicious war, he would win by the skin of his teeth and have absolutely nothing left. But I still think they could have told this story about 10 or 12 minutes shorter, don't you? when it came down to it took a while it took a while and i mean at one point punk was down on the
Starting point is 01:22:57 ground for such a long time talking to the referee i was like did something go wrong but then everything continued as normal but it took a while it seemed like they were drawing it out i you know again love gunther and it's the it's his style that he's the dominant physical guy and that he and that the other guy fights from underneath the baby face and punk did that fight he sells you can feel the pain because of the face that he makes and the body language and gunther's chops are vicious but punk would fight back and gunther would bully him and trash talk him
Starting point is 01:23:36 and everything that they did made sense everybody reacted to it in a proper ways and both guys did their trademark stuff, it's just it went so long, possibly because they felt they had to because of the afterbirth they were doing. But otherwise, the one spot,
Starting point is 01:24:05 Gunther climbed up on the ringside desk to gloat and punk jerked his feet out from under him, and bam, he went down and rolled under the desk and came back out bleeding. Poor Gunther, He didn't want to be seen, but that must mean he's not confident in his sleight of hand. So there is possibly a small notch knocked out of his armor. If I could only think of another way to say that.
Starting point is 01:24:31 They sold it as the blood coming from his nose. That was his nose. And he was selling it good too, because covering his nose and trying to, you know, so that part, it looked in. That was a pretty nice little touch there. nevertheless, they got into it from there with the punk made the comeback, the elbow off the top, Gunther got the sleeper, punk got under and hit a GTS, and then fucking Gunther staggered, but he didn't go down, so punk got under him and hit another one, boom, one, two, three,
Starting point is 01:25:06 and won the belt and got a huge pop. That worked just fine. And he's the new champion, and he's crying. You can see the tears. He's handed the belt. He hugs the belt. The people are chanting, see him punk. Gunther is rolled out to attend to his bloodiness.
Starting point is 01:25:27 And suddenly, burn it down. They did it anyway. And Seth comes out on crutches and a knee brace, but of course that he drops the crutches and takes the brace on. And I got a bunch of people on Twitter. Say, Brian was right. right, they did it. And I apologize for being wrong.
Starting point is 01:25:49 I had no idea that that many experienced bright, creative people, including Heyman, would sacrifice a network TV special to do really bad, rotten, awkward television
Starting point is 01:26:10 on purpose for the sake of the particular cash end that they just did here. I'm not opposed to the cash in. It was perfect time because punk was beat to shit and a blah, blah, blah. But to go
Starting point is 01:26:28 to all that trouble of stinking the joint out to make people believe it was real, to show them that it wasn't, what about working the boy? What about working the well, like I said at the time, I can understand,
Starting point is 01:26:48 working to boys these days because if you didn't, yeah, I'm surprised everybody's personal phone number's not out on Twitter. These bunch of loose-lipped bastards. But for if something as insignificant as that, and then when people knew about it anyway or thought they knew about it or everybody was talking about it, but I was wrong and that I didn't believe that they would purposely do rotten television on a network special just to do this. If they'd have done it in some type of wave where it didn't stink the show up,
Starting point is 01:27:31 then I would be just happy as a client. Right before the Goldberg retirement match. Right before the Goldberg retirement match, which then turned around and the end of that stuck to show up where they didn't even fucking get the speech. But nevertheless, And Jim, one more thing about Rollins coming out there. Again, isn't part of the problem he's doing this all baby face style?
Starting point is 01:27:55 He comes out there and dramatically turns around, drops the crutches, removes the knee brace, all for pops while they sing his music. Isn't that part of the problem? How could you be a heel of everything you do is a baby face or baby face style? Well, that's, I mean, I don't think they care anymore because they're just, They're just doing, holy shit. Holy shit over and over. What's a guy going through furniture or he's not injured after all? Maybe is it?
Starting point is 01:28:26 We don't. There was no sneakiness and underhandedness in what they did here. And it's hard to get heat on a guy of number one when everybody likes to sing his song. but when they've told people, oh, he's injured, he's going to be out for months. Well, they don't want him to be hurting out for months. So when he comes back, yes, their cheer. Oh, he's back.
Starting point is 01:28:57 He's not hurt after all. Yay! Now he'll go in and beat up CM Punk. We beat him over the head with a briefcase seven times. Give him the curb stomp, one, two, three. Now they've seen a happening. I don't know if it got that much heat. But you see.
Starting point is 01:29:17 what I'm saying is when they've told, you know, the only thing that could have said, well, unfortunately, he's dead. You'll never see him again because he's died. And then the next year he's, oh, thank God, he's not dead. And now we get more punk Rollins. Yes. Is that what you want?
Starting point is 01:29:39 Is that what you want? That's the thing is I was kind of hoping down deep in my little heart of hearts that it would be Paul Handing the Briefing, the briefcase to Braun Breaker, and when Seth did come back after a number of months as a baby face to get his property back from his evil fucking backstabbing former manager, you could get Seth Rollins as a baby face and Bronbreaker for the world title. That kind of kind of liked. And they set something up too.
Starting point is 01:30:10 I mean, if you think about it, Gunther lost the title and then immediately Punk is screwed. They also set up dissension between Gunther and the Hamer. group with Bronn Breaker on Raw. Well, and here's another problem, because when Haman's other guys came in to celebrate, Braun had his knee wrapped up and was limping somewhat. So hopefully they...
Starting point is 01:30:34 Yeah, there was footage that was going around of him limping backstage after his match. Again, a lot of stunts. I didn't see anything in the ring that should have injured him. So is it all these goddamn stunts? At this point, if anyone in the Haman group cries knee injury, are you going to believe him? Well, and there's
Starting point is 01:30:56 the problem also. Yeah, and again, John Pollack had the story. He was told exactly what was going to happen with Rollins going down with a knee injury, and that's exactly what played out. So we'll see where they go. Seth Rollins,
Starting point is 01:31:12 the new either world champion or WWE. What is he? He's either world champion? World champion. World champion. And of course, Jim, after the first full night, full day of SummerSlam, nonstop wrestling action in the sun, you may want a good night's sleep,
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Starting point is 01:33:46 ever once in a while she kicks the mailman and the balls he happens to be there i don't know about any of that and again this is not advisable if you live in a tenement or something but jim but if you live in a tenement you need you need to even more help getting to sleep to forget about the fucking hovel you live in once again let's talk about the choices that brought you there let's focus on the sleep you can't where you want when you have a good night's sleep there's a way you can't just sleep on a goddamn just on a mound in the middle of the interstate.
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Starting point is 01:37:41 But Jim. Yes. Uh-oh, you know what that means? What is it? The SummerSlam train rolls on. We go to Night 2, East Rutherford, New Jersey, SummerSlam 2025, Night 2. Well, the first match on that card, after Triple H came out and asked everyone, Are you ready?
Starting point is 01:38:02 He does have a growl to him, doesn't he? Yes, Amy. That's also now, I'm getting sick of that phrase, because then they had a promo for, like, what was the promo for? Was it, SummerSlam next year in Minneapolis? and then it ends with, I got one question. Are you ready? Yeah, I saw you do that earlier, man.
Starting point is 01:38:22 Yeah. Can't just do that in every single thing you do. Everybody can't be ready. Some people are always going to be caught unawares. Give them the price. You want to find that if people are ready? Give them the prices. Are you ready?
Starting point is 01:38:34 Rigside, $5,000. Are you ready? Or do you need a credit app? All right. So the opening content, on night two, a triple threat match for one of the women's titles, the other one that they didn't have a match for the night before,
Starting point is 01:38:56 with Ria Ripley versus Naomi versus E.O. Sky. And again, I know a lot of people, oh, Eio, Eo, Eo. Her name is EO, and they love her on the mat. but I don't know why, because I don't know where she's at. She's the genius of the sky, not the mat. Yeah, well, you know what? Here's the thing. If she's the genius of the sky, I'm not even arguing with that.
Starting point is 01:39:31 But do you want to see, and will you buy a ticket to see Olga Corbett beat the shit out of Nadia Cominici? How much are tickets? Where is this? Well, down at the rec center and their 50s. $15 bucks, first come first serve. Maybe. Maybe I'll see that. All right. I would have rather seen Naomi versus Ria,
Starting point is 01:39:52 but I figured Eo was there so they can beat somebody, right? That's what I was thinking. What happens when the genius of the sky, like, runs into the genius of the sea? What happens when the genius of the sky's face runs into the mat and she's on the ground? And I wonder if it's that smart down there, is she? All right, we get it.
Starting point is 01:40:12 You hate Eoskeye. Jim? Well, again, I agree EO can do the moves, but why would anybody want to see her in a fight? When Naomi and Ria, they have the look. I'm wanting to see more. I assume we'll get that match because the finish they did. But the three-way, stuff, men's three-way, women's three-way. You can't critique it. You can't explain it. You can't tell whether anybody's work is good or not because it's no DQ as well, become a pattern here. They're doing the choreography. One girl grabs the other girl's head.
Starting point is 01:40:51 The other girl kicks the one girl. So the one girl goes down and gives the other girl a DDT. And it's just, Ria can work like a guy. So that's why I like to see her in singles matches without all the furniture. And Naomi as a heel is getting over with me. So,
Starting point is 01:41:12 they ain't bad together. When it's E.O. and Ria, it looks like Joan Jett beating up a sixth grade cheerleader. And she makes more faces and points more than Kenny Olivier. Have you noticed that? Why? What is it? The Japanese influence?
Starting point is 01:41:28 They make odd faces and point at everything. I don't know what influences her. I didn't even notice the odd faces, but I'll pay attention next time. The odd faces. She may also be the genius of the sky, but what about the phony-looking upper-cut punch
Starting point is 01:41:47 which is exaggerated, doesn't make contact, and then held for the people's vision afterwards with her hands straight up there. Why won't she stop screaming? Maybe a Cardi B versus E.O. Sky. She uses the power of sound.
Starting point is 01:42:05 Put the decibel meter on. Anyway, E.O. power bombed Ria on to Naomi on the floor and seconds later Ria was up and got Eio and a rip tied off the top rope and covered her
Starting point is 01:42:20 but Naomi came from behind and schoolboyed Ria and pinned her one two three. So okay, it keeps it going between Ria and Naomi, can we please lose the sky now? I'm asking you
Starting point is 01:42:39 will you not book Eyo Sky in this anymore? I am not the booker. I said this a while ago. Like Ria has to stop losing. We don't see her win anymore. Yeah. Once again, we see her on the mat, like, ready to cry or whatever the hell was happening there at the end. I do want to see some one-on-one matches. This is a triple-h thing at this point. Non-stop three-way matches. It's just, again, and you can't really tell how anybody's doing because it's just, you know,
Starting point is 01:43:09 and then they have the crutch being able, oh, you can do anything in front of the referee because no DQ and it's just contrived shit and blah blah blah and it's constant and it's everybody everywhere three way four way six way whatever case but again Ria Ria needs to win something fairly important fairly soon because they just think that she's so over that they can just get everybody else over by giving them the rub and sooner or later that backfired and she's more valuable than almost the rest of the women's division put together. Take your other top two or three and who gives a shit, right, in the overall scheme of things. So they need to do something.
Starting point is 01:44:01 But you know something, Brian, at least now we didn't have to watch a three-way on second. We had to watch a six-way with 12 guys. Did you watch this thing? Oh yeah, I thought it was the highlight at night too. Tables, ladders, chairs, and horseshit with all six of the mid-card teams that fight for the tag team title with no disqualification. And I saw the highlights. How many tables did they break?
Starting point is 01:44:35 Was there any way to estimate? Or do you remember? I don't remember. It happened over and over. More than carrying crosses bumps. less than a fortnight. I don't know. So they climbed a bunch of ladders,
Starting point is 01:44:49 they fell through a bunch of tables, everybody almost broke their fucking neck, and what was the best bump of the whole match, Brian? Ooh, you know, there were a couple really, really good ones. The Angelo Dawkins one was good. The one you probably would have enjoyed the most
Starting point is 01:45:09 was Candace Lurray going from on top of like the biggest ladder in the ring to the floor through a ladder arm first. That was probably the one that people will be talking about, maybe. Yeah, did she get up and walk away? I have to say, this match was more entertaining than I thought it would be.
Starting point is 01:45:27 I got really into it. Andrade and Ray Phoenix, I think it looked like they could win at one point. Motor City machine guns have really annoying music when they come out, so I'm glad they don't win. Gargano and Champa and Candace Lurray did their damnness to cripple each other. I think they're okay.
Starting point is 01:45:49 The Bray Wyatt group or not the, what are they? The Wyatt 6 of Dexter Loomis and Joe Gacey, they won. And it was a lot of fun. They introduced the Hardees and the Dudleys before the match. Two of the three tag teams in the match that put TLC matches on the
Starting point is 01:46:07 on the wrestling radar. So we know who to blame then for this horseshit. One team couldn't be there. They'll be on die. Who couldn't be there? What would be more important in their schedule? Edge and Christian, I'm not sure, but apparently the Dudley's and the Hardee's will be wrestling in TNA, having a reunion match or an anniversary match or a last match, something.
Starting point is 01:46:31 Yeah. Well, this thing went about 30 minutes. Who won? You remembered a couple of the bumps? You remember who won? I said that, the Wyatt Six. Oh, did they win? I didn't pay attention, like the match.
Starting point is 01:46:43 You know what? I like the street profits more and more, and the more I like them, the more they lose and never win. But there's something that could still be done with them. The rest of the tag teams are there to have big bumps and do big spots because those tag team matches kill the crowds when we watch Smackdown. You know, they never get big reactions, the DIY and Motor City Machine Guns, no matter how talented anyone in the match.
Starting point is 01:47:09 Well, I knew I wouldn't go to sit down and try to watch this and in any way keep track of it because it would give me such a bad taste in my mouth after they finished taking every bump known to man and breaking every piece of furniture that I wouldn't want to see any of the rest of this show and there was still the majority of the show left. But at an hour and 15 minutes into the show, we got to match number three. Jesus Jesus Christ They not only won't quit doing shit
Starting point is 01:47:45 But then it takes forever After one match for the next one to come up And then We have gone from The opening match Which was, wait a minute, what did we just talk about? I just fucking forgot Oh, the opening match is a three-way with the girls
Starting point is 01:48:03 That's right Then they have 12 guys on six teams do over a half an hour full of stuntman spots with these fucking furniture and then we come to another girl's match for another women's title or something that is no DQ
Starting point is 01:48:24 and a garbage match too and it starts an hour and 15 minutes into the show we've only seen two matches then we see this and I'm thinking my God there's a street fight in the main event. Why are they doing this? Who wants to see Becky Lynch
Starting point is 01:48:43 and lyric in a match with chairs and Kendo sticks and tables and fucking zip ties? What? They shouldn't even have a performance center.
Starting point is 01:49:00 Just send them to Hollywood to fall off the fucking balcony of the fucking saloon with the stuntmen. there are no regular matches. Have I made this point clear? You have. So at one point, and I didn't watch this, but I went back on some of it,
Starting point is 01:49:21 because after I told Stace, she said, oh, God, did you see Becky Lynch? I said, no, you got to go back. So I went back at one point, Becky Lynch had zip tied lyrics hands together and they were working spots. She had her hands zip tied together for a couple minutes, and then she gave Becky a suplex,
Starting point is 01:49:48 and her hands came untied. Obviously, clearly, everybody in the building saw it. The announcers called it, oh, look, the zip ties broke, and then she stuck her hands back together and worked for another four minutes with her hands in the zip ties on purpose and the answer had to say,
Starting point is 01:50:08 oh, I'm sorry, I thought I saw that. I was wrong. And she did four more minutes with the zip ties until she goes under the goddamn ring, gets her hands loose, and does a fire extinguisher spot. And then started wailing on Becky with the Kendo stick again. And this went way past 20 minutes.
Starting point is 01:50:35 And then Bailey comes out and beats the just teetotal shit out of Becky right in front of the referee. Nobody doing anything about it. No DQ. Then the lyric put Becky through a fucking table with a goddamn giant leg drop, ass drop, whatever part of her anatomy she dropped.
Starting point is 01:50:57 And then seconds later, they were back in the ring. Becky was fine and hit her finish, one, two, three. Did you see the zip tie gimmick? Oh, yeah. that was going to be the big thing you would talk about, obviously, even before the hands. I thought, wow, she's a magician, you know, slight a hand trick.
Starting point is 01:51:17 But, yeah, I saw that. And, you know, the fans get into when big things happen. They'll pop for a fire extinguisher. That's been proven for a long time. Well, yeah, that's one of my favorite spots until the girls started doing it. God damn, how can you do street fight spots to people take seriously when girls do them? But I've been thinking about a lot of the things. you've been saying, and they showed, like, different people showing up at the building, walking in,
Starting point is 01:51:43 and they show Lyra Valkyria, and, like, the place barely popped. Again, you're just watching videos that people enter, but other people got, like, reaction. And she just looks like an average person. And this whole feud has been done because Becky wanted to work with her, and now they've set up something naturally with Bailey, because she can't challenge Becky again for this title, so she has to be mad at somebody. But I don't know, this, you know, there's a lot in the WWW women's division I've grown to really like.
Starting point is 01:52:14 The Raquel and Roxanne thing, the Liv Morgan stuff. Ria, obviously, I've always been a big Bianca fan. Naomi is a heel. And there's other stuff I just don't like, and all this Becky Lynch comeback stuff with Lyra Valchuria has not been for me. It's, again, we've heard that they're friends, they're from somewhere across the pond together, wherever the fuck. I don't care. Point is, people have lots of friends that shouldn't be on the program.
Starting point is 01:52:44 And you're right, if this girl does Indies, that's fine. But she looks out of place on the main roster with all of these, you know, various characters on the women's roster,
Starting point is 01:52:58 and there she is just wearing these fucking hokey-ass wings. But I understand using Becky Lynch, because she's been a big name and has been, drawn money there people know who she is to use her
Starting point is 01:53:13 to get someone else over but not just because she picks somebody because it's her friend it has to be somebody that actually has a chance to be over this is just wasting time wasting Becky and speaking of time an hour and 50 minutes into this show
Starting point is 01:53:32 that is a Sunday night show we've had three matches all of them were no DQ two of them were girls' matches and one of them was a 16-12-man garbage match with the preliminary guys. How is this fucking SummerSlam? Plus lots of commercials. There's lots of great movies coming to a theater near you at some point in the future, and you can find out all about them on SummerSlam.
Starting point is 01:53:57 Yes, in between the travelogs and the chicken commercials. Drumstick, just don't call us ice cream. Legally, you're not allowed to call us ice cream. When you said Drumstick, I was thinking about, wing stop because there's there's all kinds of chicken being eaten up
Starting point is 01:54:16 I got hungry they had Papa John's too all over this thing just nonstop commercials and again we all want to make money we all have commercials in our content but it's a step beyond
Starting point is 01:54:28 with WWE right now every table has slim gym on it oh that's yeah every time that they pulled out another one of those slim gym tables in the main event I'm like how fucking hokey is this gotten
Starting point is 01:54:40 Just it's sad. We'll get there in a minute. Let's go to the cage match for the United States title. This would be match number four, all of them, with no disqualification ruling. And now we got a cage, Jacob Fatu and Solo. I think this brought it out. What we were talking about, Jacob Fatu is amazing.
Starting point is 01:55:07 He's got charisma of the people like him. But the drawbacks of the matches with solo it's like they're too he is solo is too similar style but not as good he is because they have similar styles and they're in the family they're related they also have kind of the same
Starting point is 01:55:29 drawbacks and solo's drawbacks kind of to me point out Jacob's drawbacks and some of his work they don't have a good match solo is not over to the level that he was in the in the group originally when the group was still somewhat the same group instead of now the Tongan embassy is taken over and it was they did the escape the cage rules it under 10 minutes it was already dragging it was not a good cage match out of brian am i being too critical i love jacob fatu no i don't think it was very good
Starting point is 01:56:14 again, the fans weren't super into it. In terms of the solo reaction, remember a couple of years ago, all you'd do is put his thumb in the air and people would scream. They don't react to the thumb at all anymore. Yeah. They give the thumb the finger.
Starting point is 01:56:29 And then the faction, you know, I've always liked Jeff Cobb, but the faction, you know, Tonga Loa, Jeff, J.C. Mateo and Hicolay, or I'm saying everyone's other name, or Talatanga, it just seems like a step below or it just doesn't seem like you should care.
Starting point is 01:56:49 I don't know. Great value. Timu. And then Jimmy Uso got involved in this too. I mean, it's like all of these guys are all involved in stuff together would probably help everyone to work with other people. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:02 Yeah. And that's, and unfortunately, I don't see that happening by this finish because Jacob did a couple of moonsaults and then all the Samoan stooges or the Tongan stooges came to the ring, and Jimmy came down to fight the Tongas, but taller Tonga, threw Jimmy over the desk, and Solo hit the spike, got a two-count, climbed up to the top, I guess like he was going to leave.
Starting point is 01:57:32 When he spiked Jacob, got a two-count, but Jacob is still selling, so instead of just walking over to the door, he said, I'll climb over the top. which is another thing I've always hated about the WWF cage matches. It's just nonsensical, but nevertheless. Jacob went after him solo drop down and Tongaloa climbed up and came over the top of the cage. And he's in the ring while taller got handcuffs and cuffed Jacob to the top of the cage. And then I'm thinking, and the referee seeing this other guy in the ring, has no DQ, but then also, by the way, female referee in a cage match with two 300
Starting point is 01:58:18 pounds Samoans, how dangerous can it be that destroys the visual? I'm sorry, does anybody even see that anymore? How ridiculous that looks? I think they've trained people not to think about it. Can you see a female referee to a goddamn cage match in Greensboro in, 1979 between Rick Flair and Blackjack Mulligan. Who's the female? Anybody!
Starting point is 01:58:49 I can see like Stella Mae French doing it. Well, Stella May wasn't cheap. And so could you, because I can tell by your reaction. Stella May, Stella May wasn't available. She was working at the dry cleaners in Irving. I told you that, right? You did, yeah. She was by dry cleaner.
Starting point is 01:59:05 Anyway, so solo crawled to the door. and J.C. whatever opened it, but Jacob Fahtu broke the cuffs, which they missed the shot of, replayed it later. Jacob caught him, and here came old taller and gave the cage door a big boot
Starting point is 01:59:27 which flew into Jacob's head. He had momentarily earlier in the match done a deal where Solo ran him headfirst into the cage, and he no-sold it because of his hard head. And the door, the frame didn't hit him like they did in the famous, you know, Michael Hayes slams the door on Carrie Von Eric's head and Reunion Arena Christmas night. The wire hit him.
Starting point is 01:59:53 And he took a big bump and Solo dropped to the floor. Not good to gimmicked, gimmicked up for no reason. And they need to get Jacob away from Solo, but now Jacob's got to beat him first. So that was that. Yes, it was, and we're moving on. For that, I'm telling you. For that, the cage hung up above the ring for two nights of SummerSlam.
Starting point is 02:00:24 Yes, for ten minutes of blah. But if that taller Tonga had a big old fucking head with a goddamn giant crow magnin brow that finished would have got over. But as it was, he looked like a goddamn member of a boy band's head stuck on a goddamn giant's body. body. It's a little teeny.
Starting point is 02:00:49 It needs to be big and bucket-sized. Would a mask help? I mean, he can't do it now. He can't put, you know, back in. Then he'd look like Jerry Stubbs when he was Mr. Olympia. They used to call him Peahead because he was a big, jacked-up bodybuilder with his huge arms and his huge chest.
Starting point is 02:01:07 And when he put a mask on, he was bald anyway. It made his head look like his little goddamn pee sitting on top of these boulder shoulders. old taller Tonga would look like even more like a pea head because it would mash his hair down if he wore a mask.
Starting point is 02:01:23 Should he do anything different with his hair? Unless it was a padded mask. What if he changed his hair into like a fro so that it stood up as opposed to Jerry curled down? No, because it's not the size of the hair. It's the size of the head. Look, Andre added a couple of inches with his Afro style,
Starting point is 02:01:40 but it was still that giant, enormous brow and fucking jug head. If he had an afro, then he just looked like a guy with an afro on a peanut. I'm telling you, they need to do something to shoot him up
Starting point is 02:01:59 with some kind of hormones. Make his head grow. Do you block the pituitary or he opened the valve up? Open the pituitary valve up. His head will be big enough in a year and a half. He can make some money. All right.
Starting point is 02:02:18 I don't know about any of that, but on we go with SummerSlam. Yes. The Intercontinent. Hey. The Intercontinental title, lady. Lady. The Intercontinental title was on the line next with AJ Stiles and Dominic Mysterio. This is my favorite thing all night.
Starting point is 02:02:40 It's the only regular one-on-one match with regular rules that didn't involve furniture. they went 100 miles an hour for a lot of it, but the work was great, the action. Dominic has heat. I'm not sure if it was worth waiting two hours and 15 minutes into this show for. I think it's more like a TV main event. But at the same time, it was both the best match of the night to that point and the least important.
Starting point is 02:03:12 So Dominic pulled the pad on. off. The referee turned his back to put it on. Dominic got a chair, tossed it to AJ and took a bump, the old Eddie deal. So AJ put it around his own neck and fell down and the referee turned around. He said, I just keep wrestling. And AJ got to calf crusher and pulled Dominic's boot off and swung and Dominic ducked and the referee ducked to and Dominic hit AJ with his own, with his boot that he had had taken off and splashed him one, two, three. It wasn't offensive. It was a show of athleticism.
Starting point is 02:03:57 The personalities were over. The only fucking regular match on the show and it meant absolutely nothing. Your thoughts? Yeah, it was good. I'm a big fan of Dominic. I thought him and AJ worked well together. They had a good promo back and forth or at least AJ had an interesting promo on the post show.
Starting point is 02:04:15 So maybe this isn't over. but a good match. But that's the... Dominic's the most improved wrestler of the last decade from... Oh, yeah. Where we saw, to where he is, to where he could possibly go in the future.
Starting point is 02:04:28 Still young. But that's the problem is they have one legitimate wrestling match on the show and it's given the least amount of promotion, made the least important, and given the least amount of time. I could have watched them for another five minutes or so if I had to,
Starting point is 02:04:47 rather than seeing some more of these fucking dip shits falling through tables. But speaking of dipshits, Stephanie McMahon was out next. Introduced as a WWE icon. Huh. The attendance for night two was 60,561, which bring, Brang, which Brang, Brian, the two-night total, to 113,000. 722 people.
Starting point is 02:05:21 But how many of them do you think just came one night? Now, there are different numbers. So people, some people had to just be there for night too. But was, do you think that would be the minority? Most people had to go both nights, didn't they? If they're going to make the trip and the effort. If they made the trip or the effort, if they're just local, they may not have to do that.
Starting point is 02:05:43 Who knows? So that means there was about 7,000 local people that just came for night two. Maybe, who knows? What do you think of them pounding Stephanie McMahon all over this show every fucking week? What? It's an interesting choice of words. What do you think about them pounding Stephanie? Just nonstop Stephanie McMahon all over.
Starting point is 02:06:04 She's in the crowd. She's backstage. She's standing there. W.W.E. Icon. Her soft interview show. Like, just nonstop Stephanie McMahon. What do you think? Well, they have to.
Starting point is 02:06:17 Why? Because she and. and Triple Paul are going to be the new Vince and Linda in a few years. And then she'll be out there in a wheelchair with her kids fucking trying to put her in the home or whatever happened. Vince and Linda owned the company. Triple H and Stephanie don't. Well, it ain't stopping anybody, apparently.
Starting point is 02:06:41 I would have defended more voraciously until just here the last couple months, Triple H as the chief content officer and head of creative or whatever he really is behind the scenes, although that's starting to wear off on me. But I understand that his position is justified there. I don't really know why anybody gives a shit what Stephanie does or why they're foisting her off on us, except that she's no skills. She's telling Triple Age, you know, I want to be on TV again at this point. Yeah, she's like Connecticut Michelle McCool.
Starting point is 02:07:21 Well, stay off the Merritt Parkway, kid. Anyway, we have come to our main event of the evening. That beloved heroic figure that has been kept down by evil manipulations in the past is now going to triumph against the odds. Of course, we're talking about John Sina, who for the past eight months, has been telling the people go piss up a rope, how horrible they are, how pathetic their lives are. But he said he was sorry.
Starting point is 02:08:01 Cody came out and got the normal pop. But when Sina came out, they went bad shit. What did you think of the dusty audio? Well, I must have missed that part. They played... That's another bad side effect of not having proper fast forward capabilities on this goddamn peacock. because I couldn't watch it on real television on pay-per-view.
Starting point is 02:08:26 What did they do with Dusty? Again, you could have watched it live on Peacock and seen it. No, I couldn't have, because then I would have seen every single one of the commercials that I was able to fast forward through. That's when you get up. I couldn't see what I was fast-forward. That's when I go outside and smoke a joint. That's when I go to the bathroom.
Starting point is 02:08:43 That's when I go grab something from the kitchen. God damn, I could have a goddamn kidney infection. I wouldn't have to piss that much. You have to look at them as helpful breaks. They are there to help you the viewers. do other things. You're 20 years younger than I am. I'm running out of fucking time.
Starting point is 02:08:59 I'm being more goddamn judicious with everything these days. Well, they had audio... If I'd say 15 minutes here and there... Well, before Cody's music played, they had audio of Dusty, seemingly of Dusty, and I was told that
Starting point is 02:09:15 his daughter denied that it's AI. So that means at some point Dusty recorded some sort of audio that sounded like he was talking to Cody about like, go get him. I believe in you. I love you. You know, go get him. So they used that audio,
Starting point is 02:09:30 and then they went to Cody coming out there. I think they needed to do everything they could to get everyone to cheer them, and it still didn't work. Okay, well, see, that's why I missed it then, because I was trying to bridge the 15 minutes between the previous match and the start of this one, and I picked it up with Cody coming to the ring. Because I had no frame of reference, I just landed there.
Starting point is 02:09:50 but nevertheless the point was he got a nice pop and et cetera but when Sina's music played they went bat shit and then he came out and did the old John Sina entrance fired up and fired up ready to go and he asked the cameraman you got one more run left in you whatever your name is Chauncey I don't know what the fuck
Starting point is 02:10:15 and the people cheered when he audibly when he ran to the ring and instead of doing the slow walk he's been doing. And they were standing up. And on the introduction, Cody got cheers, but he also got booze, and Sina got big cheers and Sina chance. I don't, couldn't they have just waited two more days and then have Sina come out on Raw and say the same thing?
Starting point is 02:10:50 But when he's talking about his, newest nemesis, Nemesi, Brock Lester, instead of, did he had to switch baby face before Cody
Starting point is 02:11:00 so that the people would boo Cody trying to finish part two of his story? Well, that's an interesting. That's an interesting question. Now,
Starting point is 02:11:12 let me ask you that. If Cody, if the promo from Smackdown the night before hadn't happened, and they go into this match with Sina being defined as a heel, even though there'll be a segment
Starting point is 02:11:21 of the audience that'll cheer him no matter what, it's John Sina. Right. versus Cody, same finish. And then after the match, there's a moment. I don't know how it plays out. Can't really do a promo, or I guess you could, but it would seem weird.
Starting point is 02:11:37 He would do it the next night when he limped in with his face bandaged on a fucking crutch on Raw. And then he would apologize to everybody. But I guess my point is, did he have to do it on Smackdown for the Brock return to work? If he had done it after the match, you know. No. No, again, it's moments that they're booking for anyway. So if Cody had won the belt and vanquished the guy that kicked him in the balls and then left, the people would have still been saying,
Starting point is 02:12:10 thank you, Sina, because it's his last time. And maybe then you could see on John Sina's expressive face that he started to have the Grinch moment, where his heart grew three sizes that day. and just as he's looking up through the sweat and the tears and showing the effect of this match, but he hears the people that they still, after all he's said and done,
Starting point is 02:12:38 they still feel for him and he starts to brighten up and then fucking Brock Lester's music hits it and Brock comes down and bites his fucking jugular vein. And then he comes out, he says, after all I've done on Raw, after all I've done and all I fucking said. And you still wanted to thank me. And then this fucking guy comes out.
Starting point is 02:13:01 Well, fuck him. And there you go. I don't know. I don't know what the fuck's going on here. Cody just hard to get shit on by everybody for the past six months. But anyway, they had this again. I was loving it till I didn't. because okay this is a street fight
Starting point is 02:13:25 even with the fucking strange thing of Sina's turned baby face or whatever it's a street fight between two of the top guys to company previous generation present generation they're smart they can work and they've got the ability to use smoke and mirrors maybe to keep up
Starting point is 02:13:45 or keep away from maybe some of John's weaknesses as he's 50 years old so I got that I don't know why it has to be a street fight after Cina turned baby face, but nevertheless, they start fighting. And despite that they switched John so there was no reason to want to see him bleed or have a street fight, again, I wouldn't have had a problem with this if they hadn't gimmicked up everything else on the card with tables and chairs and kendo sticks, even the girls.
Starting point is 02:14:21 Brian Solomon tweeted, I wish I had it in front of me, I'd read it verbatim, but basically commenting on the insanity of knowing that your main event at a pay-per-view of this magnitude is a street fight and allowing the undercard that went on
Starting point is 02:14:39 is just ridiculous. But the more that it went on, they were doing, they were having a good match, even though Cody was getting, heat on Sina without cheating. Sina was fighting from underneath. Cody was getting two counts.
Starting point is 02:15:00 Cody worked his ass off. So they were doing good. The big yay boo, Sina got the yays. And then they started hitting some big moves and getting some two counts. And I'm like, well, this is, this is cooking pretty good. Of course, John pulled out the Slim Jim table. and Cody avoided it and set it in the corner, and then they immediately went to the floor,
Starting point is 02:15:27 and they fought out into the stadium, all over the stadium, forever. And then it became, that's the point, where I was loving it until I stopped loving it. Then it turned into a professionally produced AEW match with real stars, where they're just out in a building walk-fighting. And that's, normally I would fast forward to them to where they got back in the ring and it wouldn't really ruin it for me
Starting point is 02:15:56 but I have no on-screen fast forward on the cock so I had to fucking sit through this and by the time they got back to the ring it had taken me out of it. And especially when they came up on the elevator through the stage with Sina with Cody over his fucking shoulders. So now I just wanted it to be over.
Starting point is 02:16:21 And by the way, to be honest, since it went 40 minutes bell to bell, it was about time for it to be over. But that's when Sina unhooked, no. Cody, the baby face, hit Sina with a chair and unhooked the bottom rope, and then hit Sina with the buckle. He's hitting him with the turnbuckle. And the people booed him. And Sina struggled up.
Starting point is 02:16:51 up and Cody hit him again with it. And Cody's, the look on his face, I don't want to do this. Just stay down. I won't have that. Don't do it. Your goddamn baby face is fucking guy's groveling in front of you. Now you're beating up a senior citizen.
Starting point is 02:17:09 He went for a third time and Sina got to fucking STF and wrapped the rope kind of around Cody and Cody reversed it and hit three crossroads and got to a two count on Sina. And Sina kicked out to huge cheers.
Starting point is 02:17:26 And what in the name of God are they doing here? And at first, again, the first part of the match, Cody was really waltz and Sina across Texas. And Sina was fighting from underneath. I thought, okay, they're showing that Cody's the new generation. He's 20 years younger, whatever the case, you know. That's with it. But now, fucking, he's hitting him over and over with his finishes.
Starting point is 02:17:52 Cetus kicking out. Cody got the title belt and brought it in the ring and swung that at him and Cena ducked and gave him two AAs, grabbed the belt and tossed it aside to make sure everybody knew that he was more fucking filled with moral fiber than Cody. And he hit the AA off the top rope and cover two count. And then Cina pulled out another slim gym table. and set it up and got Cody up on the top,
Starting point is 02:18:25 but Cody slipped it and jerked Sina off, and they said it was a Cody cutter, but it was, here, let's jump through this table. And they both went through it, and then he hit one crossroads, one, two, three. To it, and one to an okay pop. When did you think that we would say Cody will regain the belt to an okay pop?
Starting point is 02:18:52 In AEW. No, they've done a lot to damage Cody this last year. I mean, when punk beat Gunther, the place came down. And this is the more important belt. And Cody beat fucking the guy that fucked him for it to win it back. And they were like, oh, okay. And like I said earlier, Cody becomes an afterthought here. He leaves, gives Sina the attention in the ring because he just turned baby face two days before.
Starting point is 02:19:23 this. So he forgave everything bad that happened. He had to teach John Cena a lesson. And then the story goes on from there. Yeah, I like the way that they shook hands and drank beer with each other. But Cody said, but on Sunday now, I'm going to have to hit you repeatedly over and over with that turnbuckle. So anyway, it's inexplicable why that they allowed the undercard to be, the writers don't know the difference, but one would expect the actual wrestling veterans to have said, you know, fuck you.
Starting point is 02:20:04 But it was just a, every match was just tables and garbage and blah. And then Sina gave Cody the belt. They had an emotional hug. They blew off the pyro. Cody left. Sina's getting the thank you, Sina. And the music plays, and here comes Brock Lester. And Michael Cole, well, holy shit.
Starting point is 02:20:31 Michael Cole did do a one, they even put a camera on him and showed it on Twitter when he, it was like he had seen the second coming of goddamn woolly mammoth, that he never dreamed that Brock Lester would be there. And the crowd went absolutely batshit because it's a nut. other star that and this time it's not like oh golly set's back we we thought he was going to be gone for months we haven't seen him since last month they haven't seen this guy in fucking three four years so he went they went bad shit and he came down and seena just stared at him and he got in the rig and just big john sina up and gave him an f5 and then sina laid there and
Starting point is 02:21:20 Brock stood there and off the air we went. And I maintained that that would have worked just as well without the baby face turn on Friday. But nevertheless, they've got a lot of names and a lot of stars. And they just keep sending people out to do shit and break a table. But at some point, you know, they might actually have to start making the matches important again, just a thought for something for the future. No one predicted Brock coming back. Obviously with Rollins,
Starting point is 02:22:00 there was a segment of the fan base that thought there was a chance he could cash in or there would be some kind of cash in with Hayman or Bronn, something. No one was saying, and I bet Brock Lesnar will be there. So it was a big surprise. Michael Cole may have been surprised.
Starting point is 02:22:17 What do you think of Lesnar returning? Some fans have been upset about it because of his inclusion in the Janelle Grant accusations against Vince McMahon. She didn't sue Brock, but she said that Brock requested a bathroom video and
Starting point is 02:22:31 they were gonna meet up, but it didn't happen. So there isn't really, other than the exchange of that video, there's nothing against Brock really. Well, we didn't ever hear he got to video, did we for sure?
Starting point is 02:22:44 Did he get the video or he just asked for the video? I think he, from what I remember, Vince was bragging, according to what was in the complaint, Vince was bragging to everyone, including Brock, about his girlfriend. As part of the negotiations, according to Vince and text messages, Brock was going to have his way with her, and Brock was telling Vince how he was going to just tear things up
Starting point is 02:23:04 and whatever he was going to do. There was an exchange of a video, and then they were supposed to meet up one night in Connecticut, I think, and Brock got too drunk. So it never happened. No, no, no, no, hold on now. No, hold on now. I heard that he didn't make the trip.
Starting point is 02:23:19 There was some type of weather fucking postponement or something. Is the story that I remember that. I thought it was getting drunk. I didn't remember here. I don't know if Brock gets drunk. Unless he's drunk on that unpasteurized cow milk. I'm sure you can get drunk. Well, but no, no, I'm not.
Starting point is 02:23:41 I'm sure he can. I don't know whether he, you know, but point being, first of all, Let's say this. They just had the chief content officer, Triple H, standing in the White House next to the most reprehensible, repugnant, slimyest human being on the face of the planet. That's a 34-time convicted felon and an adjudicated sexual abuser, and everybody knows what all of his many faults are. So they don't care. Number one. And number two.
Starting point is 02:24:16 not that I'm a fan of Brock Lesnar as a person. I'm a fan of him as a box office attraction and is one of the biggest stars in the business, but as a person, I'm sure he's, I haven't seen him in decades. I'm sure he's just as Trumpy as the fucking rest of. So I could give a shit. But I will defend him in that,
Starting point is 02:24:40 no, he's not been accused of doing anything wrong in terms of, illegality besides humor and his fucking weirdo boss and asking for a piss tape. And I'll take asking for a piss tape over 34 convicted felonies
Starting point is 02:24:58 anytime. So Brock Lester is not nearly, not nearly even on the radar list of the reprehensible people that they deal with in the TKO WWE UFC fucking whole environment. there.
Starting point is 02:25:16 Everybody just needs to get off that. It's not about them bringing them back. It's about the reaction, pushback. You know, again, I was surprised how many people on social media, and it is just social media, were seemingly very upset about him being brought back while the Janelle Grant lawsuit was still ongoing. Well, yeah, and it's going to be ongoing for years
Starting point is 02:25:36 of what the fuck does. That's the thing. In my estimation, Brock was humoring his weirdo fucking boss, because we haven't heard he texts from Brock. We haven't said, you don't hear from Brock. As I said, Brock would rather be on his fucking farm in Saskatoon or wherever with Sable and his cows and pigs and horses or whatever.
Starting point is 02:25:59 You don't hear about Brock jetting off to Monaco and going to Epstein's Island and spending nights partying in Las Vegas and being out with Connor McGregor. He's a goddamn throw. back to the caveman, he lives in the woods. So I'm sure, yes, with Vince, you heard Vince's texts. We heard all of those descriptions.
Starting point is 02:26:26 I'm sure Vince is there. I got Brock and she'll do anything. I'll ever send me a piss tape. He's humor in the old fart. Laurenitis, I can buy as being enough of a toadie and a sycophant and a stooge that he'll jump in with both feet in Vince's various proclivities.
Starting point is 02:26:51 But trying to imagine Brock being on the scene when Vince's 80-year-old tallywacker would come out. I ain't getting that fucking picture. It wasn't that. It was that Vince was trafficking her. Well, no, I didn't. That's the accusation. Yes, but the point is,
Starting point is 02:27:10 the road was closed for the, traffic. Brock didn't actually take that road. He didn't go down that Hershey Highway. Vince, rightfully enough, is accused of trying to traffic her. But Brock Lester didn't hop on board the tramp train there. So he didn't do anything. And they've said he didn't do anything. So my point is, I think they're all assholes, but you can't just say we're not going to use Brock Lester forever because the creepy guy that used to own this company said, hey, Brock, you want to fucker? Sure, Vince.
Starting point is 02:27:47 Yeah, and five million dollars a match and I'll fuck her. But I want the five million dollars a match more. It wasn't like that was going to make a significant difference in Brock's, whether he was going to re-up his contract or not. It was Vince's fucking kinks that whether that that made more, it was more important to Vince that it was more important to Vince that it was. was to Brock for fuck's sake I don't
Starting point is 02:28:13 now if somebody if Sable had suddenly reported that Brock was making multiple trips to the New York metropolitan area for no apparent good reason then we'd have reason to believe something was going on but no I'm sorry if Sable came out and said he was making regular trips
Starting point is 02:28:30 to the barn we may have reason to be concerned well and I would I and you know what if the headlines came out that Brock Lester was accused of fornicating with his farm cows, I would put more stock in that, then I would, that he was actively engaging in all these other things with Vince McMahon and his illegal, paralegal, or whatever. It's just ridiculous. Vince was trying to push that on everybody.
Starting point is 02:28:56 We don't know what we don't know. But what I want to ask you is if you're going to bring Bach back, if you're going to bring Brock, if you're going to bring Brock back, do you think this is the appropriate way to do it for Sina who's leaving in a few months or should Brock have been used for someone who's active on the roster who could use a Brock Lesnar to help them get past a certain point or something?
Starting point is 02:29:23 Any issue with the way he's brought back who he's going to be working with? Well, but is this Sina's last match or just last big match or because he's done in December Survivor Series then he does something on TV? I don't know. John Sina has already put Cody over such as it was,
Starting point is 02:29:42 but I don't think John needs to put anybody else over on the way out, especially if he's now a baby face. But by the same token, they may have tied something in where maybe they just got Brock to come back once to give Sina the proper farewell. He beats Brock Lester and there he rides off of the sunset. Or does John want to contribute to a different layer, of something where Brock beats him in his last big match,
Starting point is 02:30:11 but he gets another match to win, but then Cody has to come and beat Brock. I don't know how long they got Brock for, how many matches or whatever. See, again, he's the guy who ended the streak, and a lot of people at the time had a problem with him being the specific guy to do it, who was basically a part-timer.
Starting point is 02:30:28 He was in semi-regularly. It's the same thing here, you know, him and Sina. He's doing something as two part-time guys you know, unless Brock's full time, which I doubt. Well, almost everybody's part-time now. That's only do this part-time. That's true. But, I mean, it's just, it's for big matches.
Starting point is 02:30:48 Is it going to be Saudi Arabia or WrestleMania or Royal Rumble or Survivor Series? Have they got one-match deal, two-match deal, three-match deal, whatever? I don't have any problem with him coming out and laying out John Cena, and he needs to be a heel. because they got more baby faces now than they used to. But we got to see where this goes to determine who gets the benefit out of it. In the end, somebody else besides John Sina or Brock Lester needs to benefit, somebody that's going to be their ongoing. But how do they get there?
Starting point is 02:31:24 That's what I don't know. But for all the people that said, no, if they brought John Laurinitis back, who has been named, yes, he participated in this. he went along with it. He tried to cover it up. Blah, blah, blah. Well, then there's a problem. But they deal with a lot more unsavory people on a regular basis
Starting point is 02:31:44 than Brock Lester who asked for a pee tape to fucking placate his goddamn horny boss. Possibly, we think, maybe. Who knows? Sounds like it to me. Back to the match. One last thing. You compared it to AEW, and that was the thought I had. It wasn't even from the fight walking around.
Starting point is 02:32:02 it was from the big move after big move after big move and everyone kicking out. I know that's the thing nowadays. You want that reaction from the fans where you think this really has to be the end, but it isn't, so you get the pop and you continue. I thought it was too much here. I thought it was way too much.
Starting point is 02:32:24 Well, when you convince people it has to be the end over and over and it isn't, then pretty soon, for a lot of people, they just quit believing anything's the end. And then there has to be a balancing act. You can't not ever do anything shocking and you can't do things shocking so often that nothing shocks anybody. There has to be something in the middle.
Starting point is 02:32:53 And I've seen enough furniture to last me a lifetime. I've seen enough multiple person matches and no disqualification bullshit to last a lifetime, when all the no disqualification furniture breaking street fight and shit is not anywhere near the level of animosity between the participants that was found 30 or 40 years ago. Show me that much animosity and I'll buy the goddamn furniture and the blood drinking.
Starting point is 02:33:24 But when it's just these phony ass, especially in AEW, but sometimes in WW, when it's just these phony ass scripted promos, or the delusions of the guys who think that people are buying their personalities they've concocted for themselves rather than ones they actually look like and nobody believes anybody's really mad because nobody believes the other guy burned the other guy's house down or ran over the other guy's fucking car with his tractor or whatever.
Starting point is 02:33:56 It's just a bunch of stunts. There's no legitimate feeling of these guys. hate each other. Until you get that, I don't see any more furniture. Well, there it is. Cody Rhodes, defeating John Cena, Brock Lesnar returns the end of night two, and that was the end of SummerSlam. Thank God. Well, this is my show, and with that... I'm about saying, it is yours. I am handing you the dog's head. Ladies and gentlemen, it may be a shorter dog this week than usual, back with more action later this week on the experience and next week on the drive-thru.
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