Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 408: Jim Reviews WWE Clash In Paris

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

This week on the Drive Thru, Jim reviews WWE Clash In Paris, as well as CM Punk & Becky Lynch's confrontation on Raw! Plus Jim talks about Dave Meltzer's star ratings for AEW Forbidden Door, The Rock's weight loss, PowerTown Wrestling, Mr. T's daughter, Buford Pusser, and much more! Also, Jim plays Guess The Program! Thanks to our episode sponsors: PRIZEPICKS: Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/JCE and use code JCE to get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! RAYCON:  Go to buyraycon.com/jce to get 20% off the fan favorite Everyday Earbuds Classic! Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: [e-mail]  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Merch! https://arcadianvanguard.com/ Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Let me roll back over here. Hello again, friends! What is hell? And you are our friends, and welcome back to another edition of Jim Cornett's drive-through right here. It's the end of summer, the beginning of a whole new thing. I'm your host, The Great Brian Last. We got all sorts of action today. We've got the big clash in Paris.

We have Monday Night Raw's highlight. We have history and so much more. with this man, the leader of the cult of Cornett, he's feeling good today. Mr. Jim Cornett. I tell you, Brian, I'm all right now, but last week I was in rough shape. You know, no, actually, this is last week,

because I'm still in rough shape. You started out there. See, last week, you kind of led into it like the dean. I think I mentioned it, the preamble to the intro to the live version of Hotel California, where they build up to it. All right, I didn't say, go back and do it again.

Those words never escaped my lips. But last week you built up to it, kind of like an overture to get people in their seats. And this week you just, we're all over the place. Oh, it doesn't sound like that. Taking a circus calliope and shoved a bunch of high-grade bathroom meth in the pipes.

Wow. Bathroom meth? They can't say a thing about that now. Bathroom meth. That's the worst kind. Well, that's where you're right under the sink. That's right. You know, that's, I'll tell you what, I went in one night.

This was years ago to the, what was the, it was the Walgreens, the people over at Walgreens that have the drugstores. Because Stace had a cold. And she, I don't remember whether it was pseudofed or whether she had wanted some specific brand of over-the-counter anti-cold medicine. And I went in there and it was locked up behind the counter. So, or behind the glass, right? So I go up to the guy behind a cash register. I say, I need to get to, you know, can you get the key to the thing and get me the deal, right?

Oh, no. Why not? Well, it's after 9 o'clock or whatever. what can you only have a cold between the hours of nine a.m. and nine p.m., what does that have to? Do you're open? Yeah, but we can't get in that until in the morning. Cold medicasa, why, because they make meth with it in the bathroom sink or in the toilet bowl or the bathtub or wherever they mix these things up when the trailer park explodes. And I said, so my wife has to have a cold all night. before I can buy one, even though your store is open, before I can buy one package of this, which probably wouldn't make, I wouldn't think enough meth to fuck up more than three or four trailers.

But there you go. I mean, they can't just have the general people working at the store running the pharmacy section. You have to be a pharmacy. I didn't ask for goddamn Oxycontin. Give me some fucking suit of it. It's in a goddamn box with a barcode. we don't need a degree to dispense this shit

if I didn't have needed an AK talk no if I'd have needed an AK-47 to protect the meth factory I could have goddamn gone down to the flea market and got that and they'd have carried it to my car but I can't get the goddamn suit of it. You could probably get the meth there too. Well and it'll just eliminate the middleman

and having to know chemistry. All right, well this has been chemistry. Let's move on now. Well, no, hey, this is, no, I've got some big news here, Brian. You just, you took me in another direction there, because this is your show, and so it reflects on you instead of me. But there's big news here at Castle Cornett. The Coronet family has received a major award.

Did I tell you about this yet? No, I have no idea what you're talking about. No. We have received a major award. We've been notified in the mail that the coronet, have been invited to become a Nielsen family. Get out of here. If I'm lying, I'm flying, and my feet ain't left the ground.

But hold on you, there's details. See, oh God, it's been a few years ago. I got an envelope in the mail from Nielsen, whatever, the, you know, corporate name of the thing is on their return address, Nielsen. and it had a questionnaire with like 10 questions you could feel. What's your favorite radio station or what type of show? Just basic generic questions, you know, like that. And wrapped up in that was I'll have, you know, I believe it was a $5.

Yes, a $5 bill, a crisp $5 bill like they just printed it. It hadn't even been circulated. I said, well, I'll answer here. 10 questions because I remember it happened in the 70s. My mom got, they sent you two quarters. I still have the thing that the quarters were stuck in for you to just write down your favorite TV station or whatever the fuck, right? So I got to $5 put it in my pocket, went on my mailed a thing in, went along my way.

And here a few months ago got the same thing. We got a two page questionnaire, eight or ten, ten. in generic questions, right? Do you like comedies more than, or do you watch this? Blah, blah, blah. $10. Crisp, $10. See, they're hooking me, Brian, right?

And I do to flee. Kept that $10 and mailed that thing in because why not? But guess what I got in the mail? You hear that? You know what? That is the sound of an invitation, Brian. from Nielsen it says

great news you've been chosen now give me a fucking dramatic organ well it could have been better drama but we'll go with it

what the fuck anyway you open this brochure up they sent a brochure along with the cover letter and they've enclosed another crisp

$10 bill I'll have you know and it says right here we've been closed a thank you gift for taking the time to read this letter if your household takes part in the ratings you'll continue to receive cash gifts wow these gifts are to thank you for your help so this is my retirement Brian right here it is I don't have to leave the house or do nothing but hold on let's go back to the brochure. You know, it gives you a little bit about what the ratings are. They're used by broadcasters to learn more about what programs are being listened to or watched across the country,

blah, blah, blah, about advertising for media companies and other businesses. Few are chosen to participate in the ratings, taking part as your chance to have your listing and viewing choices included in the audience reports provided to radio and TV stations, cable and satellite providers and other businesses. Participating in the ratings costs absolutely nothing. In fact, we provide cash rewards for people that participate in this important research. Important research, Brian, at this stage of my life, I'm now being asked to do important research. Well, this is on the heels of you coming back from your research at Notre Dame,

so it makes sense. Well, there you go, I'm now a noted researcher. Having searching, having searching every way, yeah, yeah. Searching for the key. Jesus. Now, well, I'll find it sooner or later.

If you cover enough ground, eventually, you'll hit that mole. But now, Brian, how do you, do you, have you ever been a member of the, how are you now or have you ever been a member of the Nielsen party? No, I'm chosen from a different tribe, but I'm a member of the Nielsen family. I've never seen an invitation. I've never received any mail to the best of my knowledge from them.

As we've talked about television and ratings quite a bit, and you've been in the entertainment field. How do you, let's put it this way, what was the last you heard of how that if you're an official Nielsen family that your viewing choices are measured? You know, as I'm thinking about what I remember talking about, I'm sure someone sent in an email saying something else at some point along the line, but I think you're supposed to log, maybe even by hand, what you watch and when you watch it.

Now, that wouldn't make sense because we want the ratings quick, so it must be online at this point. Well, see, that's silly boy. Silly boy, that was back in the old days. That was back in my time. In those days, yes, they would send you a book. and you were supposed to write down what TV show you watched at such and such time and it's like a Nielsen diary they called it, I believe.

And here's Tuesday from whatever time to whatever time, blah, blah, and most time there's only three or four TV stations so it wasn't as outlandish as it seems. But then now I'm going to jog your memory. You've heard the Nielsen boxes. Now does this jog your memory? that's right yeah this is what they came up with to get into the modern age and this was years ago where somehow a demographic sampling of the community that they were trying to measure

based on whatever calculations would get a box that they would have hooked up to their television or their cable box however it worked and never had one of those and that would measure and keep track and report what shows you were watching, which sounds like kind of a state-of-the-art way to do it, right? But that makes sense now. And here the thing is, it was supposed to be a representative sampling, but we used to joke what I was watching, the ratings for Louisville at OVW. I can't remember the TV station, I think, told me at one time. I don't know if that guy was supposed to know.

but it was like the entire city of Louisville, the demographic sampling was like three or four dozen boxes, maybe. And so we used to joke when the ratings would suddenly drop like by a third from one week to another week. Oh, shit, two of our boxes went on vacation. But that was the last that I heard of how they would do it, that if you were an official Nielsen family, and there's fewer of those than the people that just do the paper questionnaires and etc. you'd have some kind of box wired up to your,

you'd have a box wired up to your gimmick, Brian. Well, guess how they do it now? Because it's right here in this brochure. Your personal meter makes it easy. Being in the ratings is simple. We will give a personal meter to you and each member of your household age six or older. All you do is where your meet is, where you're meeting,

as you go about your day. Wait, what? And there's a picture of this little, it looks like a goddamn, like an ankle bracelet if you're on home incarceration kind of thing, or maybe a garage door clicker. I'm not sure.

But it says the meter identifies the media you encounter by looking for special broadcast codes and sound wave patterns to match against a library of media content. This method collects media choices without saving or sending any actual audio. Yeah, okay.

What else does it collect? Well, that's what I'm saying. You know, are they going to, is there also going to be a goddamn, we're getting incredibly high ratings for Cornyd has a screaming argument with his fucking neighbor. That shows going through the roof. My apologies to Tony Con. I thought your ratings went down because of the product. It's just people saying, I'm not doing this.

I'm getting rid of the issue. The picture of the thing that I said, it's like a mouse. It looks like a computer mouse. Now that this meter is small and lightweight, like a fitness watch. It comes with three ways to wear a clip, a wristband,

and a lanyard. Oh, my God. So you've got some kind of high technological goddamn monitoring device, either strapped to your body or hung around your body, neck as you go about your day encountering media.

What do you think for $10? Well, no, no, this word now up, we're into continued cash rewards. Ongoing type of thing. Otherwise known as cash. Yeah, cash rewards.

Again, if it just picks up anything you're around, what if you're at a job all day where they play horrible music that you would never listen to, or you're stuck in front of a fucking TV at Wendy's working a counter that's on Fox News.

What if you're like a porn fiend? Well, that would be another thing. What would the ratings be of Dumbo does it donkey style since that flick has been in release for quite some time? Yeah, what other metadata do they have? You know, could it be, is it songs? Is it, so they're basically tracking what you watch across any platform, whether it's cable,

whether it's streaming, up some sort of signal that the movies and TV shows are giving out? Yeah, send Barnard over there, send him some more ads for porn shit. He seems to, he is ejaculated 17 times this week, and it's only Tuesday. So you're not going to do this, right? No, I'm not going to. I'm just, I'm still got my stethoscope out trying to listen for those people that were in my walls till we got the

service to take them out. And now, no, I'm not going to... Six years old and up. So what are you, like, so your kids are walking around with this giant lanyard around their neck with a, not even a listening device. The kids, you'd want some kind of wristband or a clip. So just clip it to them, like clip their mittens on one side and the, the monitor on the other.

Why isn't this a bigger scandal? Like why isn't every single network and content producers screaming that this is an inadequate way to go about getting an accurate rating for the nation? Well, joking aside, as we've done the porn and the various other stuff, how the fuck does this work seriously? Yeah, seriously. And in what way is this in any fashion? Again, I could understand the representative sampling of a community. and then you've got the boxes wired up so it's not like they can tinker with it. Is it no, honey, don't let them know.

I watched Gilligan's Island all fucking day. Put it on the fucking C-SPAN or where you can't do that. But this is, and again, we'll send you cash rewards is our way of saying thanks. Earn weekly cash rewards. Everyone can earn money each week just for wearing their meter every day. Three weekly. That's how the conversation starts. order too like you go to the bank hey what's that around you're like this is my meter yeah i'm i'm getting

i'm getting 37 cents an hour for this son of a bit three weekly see a sweepstakes yes you're seeping if you're seeping from your monitor three weekly sweepstakes add dollars and fun wearing your meter can also qualify you for all three of the weekly sweepstakes drawings you could win five hundred in the Monday through Sunday sweepstakes, $250 in the Saturday sweepstakes and $250 on Sunday. And, Brian, again, this could be a retirement plan. Several times per year,

you'll have the opportunity to earn entries into sweepstakes where the grand prizes are $10,000 or more. How does the device know it's on a human being? What if you put on your dog? You know what? That may be a fucking loophole. how we see videos like cats watching TV. Put it on the cat.

That's, you know, as a matter of fact, if we, you know, Tony Kahn is going to pick that up because think about this. He could just outfit all the dogs and cats at all the shelters with one of these meters and have them turn AEW on and just listen to the soundtrack. With a lot of, meow, well, there's a lot of pussies on AEW already. I was going to say it's crazy to do this, but these wonderful cash rewards. It's tempting.

And sweepstakes. That sounds great. On the letter here, there's a star at the top of the letterhead and it says you count in the ratings. So I've been entrusted with some type of goddamn responsibility here. With great power comes great responsibility. Should I do this? Well, if you do AEW's ratings would go up because you watch AEW for the show. Oh shit.

NXT's ratings will go down because you never watch NXT. You could really change the future of wrestling by you and your family, your extended family, all signing up and becoming a Nielsen family. If I tell them I have like six kids, can I put to hang the things around the deer's neck

and the skunk? They think, boy, the people in Louisville, Kentucky are into the nature programs. We hear a lot of crickets. That's crazy. Speaking of hearing. Crickets. Hey, I'm only asking you because I figure that this is one of those things. There's nobody else on the line. That's why you're asking. No, because I figure this may be one of those things that you might have asked along the way. Because it seems like a logical question. And I don't know the answer. But why can't they just track what you watch through your cable box? Everything is now digital anyway. Why can't they just track, you know, I have a cable box here or I stream on my computer. The cable company I would think knows exactly what I'm watching.

Well, let me just let you know something about that there, fella. Do you think that these cable companies owned by these billionaire TV conglomerates actually want people to know how many people is really watching? And also, that would mean that they would charge Nielsen probably more than the cash rewards that they're giving out to fucking Joe Jackoff and his wife Jill. Yeah. To utilize their cable information in their company. So Nielsen is going directly to the people to avoid a conflict of interest

and also, because they've got a whole different kind of fucking who shot John scam to make up numbers. If I worked at like the morgue, I'd sign up for like 40 accounts. Wait a minute, they got to hold on. I'm looking at this brochure again here and of course they have a body temperature minimum. How would they know? How would they know? Well, it's the monitors on your body. You have to have

a pulse and a body temperature of over 88. It's what it says right here. It does not say that. It doesn't have to touch your skin. Obviously people wearing a lanyard or a clipper to whatever is. God damn if I'm wearing a goddamn ear of corn on a string around my neck and I walk next to a goddamn radio station and hear the fucking album version of Inagata DeVita, it would

have the same capability of picking that up as some fucking box around your neck would be able to tell what your fucking body temperature is. The whole thing is preposterous and you're trying to pick holes in my goddamn theory. I really think you should do it. Just think of the content.

Just think of how much fun we could have when they yank this back away from you. They're going to issue of press release. The Cornett family has in no way ever been a part of the Nielsen family, only by marriage. It'll come right after that scandal where MeTV becomes the most popular station of the country.

Yes, Me TV is now charging $1 million per 30-second commercial, and it goes up on Saturday evenings for Svangouli. Well, I guess we'll see what happens. I think you should do it. I think you should do it. But Jim, thinking speaking, is going to do one of those shows. Why don't you think before you speak? Ladies and gentlemen, of course.

Yes. No matter what kind of family you are, you're a family that probably needs fine merchandise from Cornett's collectibles at Jim Cornett.com. It's amazing that you brought that up because I was just thinking about that. And folks, I am being led to believe by Hotchka's Feather Bottom

that we're going to get those pictures that I've been talking about for the last week or two up on Jimcornet.com this week. Well, he's really been sludge under with the other project that we've been doing that I'm going to have ready to announce the people, announce to the people on this week's Jim Cornett experienced the new holiday sale at Jim Cornett.com. It starts in October with discounted prices and a brand new crown jewel piece of

merchandise and all these type of things. Jim's Nielsen monitor. Yes. Yes, I autographed Nielsen Monitor with a clear. lip. But in the meantime, go to Jim cornet.com and look for those cool unseen pictures of me that are now on sale that can be autographed

for a very nominal fee. Almost a subliminal fee, as a matter of fact, now that you think about it, Jimcoranet.com. You know, I just found a really cool 8x10 in the file. It's horizontal. It's Adrian Street, Linda on the left, and Jesse Barr on the right, and you're kind of on one knee in the middle pointing to your back and you have a dynasty of champion shirt on.

Do you know who took that picture? I don't. Brian Hildebrand. I did not know that. Brian Hildebrand was down for one of our early group shots. Well, not group shots. He took a group shot, but what of the first times when the whole group was together there? It's what I'm trying with me.

The gang was all there. He was down and took some of those with actually with my camera. So that was trivia. Yeah, there you go. There's some trivia. Cool shirt, though, and cool picture. And there were pictures of you at ringside taken by Paul Heyman. That's kind of interesting, but more about the files.

Well, you know, the kid, he used to look at me under those magical ring lights and try to figure out a way to emulate the magnitude of me. Well, Jim, as we said, there's a lot to get to today. So why don't we... Did you hear about our friend down south? Are you going to lead with that? one of the most legendary figures in southern wrestling that never actually was a star in wrestling of all time?

I presume you're speaking about Buford Pusser. Well, old Buford, as we used to call him down in these parts. Yes, can you believe what has been announced about Buford Pusser? Do you want to tell the people? I kind of know who he is. I've never seen the movie, either the original or the remake of Wayne Johnson. I never saw either. No, but there was no remake with Dwayne Johnson.

It was a movie titled the same and is a whole different person, a different story and a whole goddamn thing. Just like what he did, the Black Adam. Very interesting. No, I did not. Yeah, I just changed everything. Just changed everything.

I did not see it, but I know who he is. I know that allegedly he was a wrestler, although I don't know if I've ever seen anything like with him on a card or anything. Oh, well, they're actually, buddy Wayne, not the, Seattle buddy Wayne, but the Memphis original buddy Wayne, and I say original because he was much older

than the other fellow. He knew him. And Buford Pusser, for the kids out there, who may have been laboring under a false misapprehension and consumption like you just were, Brian, that walking tall with the rock was a remake about the, it was the same characters and et cetera. No, it was completely changed around.

But Beaufort Pusser was the sheriff of McNary County, Tennessee and gained some notoriety in the state and, you know, northern Mississippi, that area down there, because it's toward West Tennessee. And then they made a movie about a very glorified version of his life, but that's where that whenever Bill Watts would say, look at Hacksaw Duggettie's walking tall with the two before or whatever. There was a Beaufort Pusser reference because walking tall the movie,

again magnified it. What Buford Pusser was known for legitimately in real life was more of potentially an oversized billy club, but they made it a goddamn just a two before that he just carried around and just bashed up stills with. and broke up bars and et cetera. But that was the walking tall. And he had so much problem with the criminals and the prostitution and the illegal gambling

and the alcohol and the moonshiners that there were attempts on his life. And one of the big scenes in the movie is where people apparently, this way the story went, ambushed him while he and his wife were driving down the road with shotguns and whatever and the way they portrayed it in the movie

it was like the lower half of his face was shot off he was wounded in the chin somehow but it killed his wife and this was in like 1967 and now 60 whatever year well 50 some almost 60 years later the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation came out with the news that based on new evidence and new investigations,

Beaufort Pusser killed his wife and made up a story. And if anybody was still around and alive today, they would have sufficient evidence to bring charges and put the thing in front of a jury. Can you believe this? you don't have any idea, Brian, because you're not old enough, first of all. But if you've never seen the movie, especially in the state of Tennessee,

the movie Walking Tall with Joe Don Baker, 1973 version, was a goddamn, people saw it multiple times. It was, you know, the legendary Beaufort Pusser, blah, blah, blah. I saw it, as a matter of fact, at the drive-in when we were down in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, was visiting my uncle Harold in 1973. And you could hear in the drive-in with people from the cars or whatever he'd take the stick and beat up the bad guys,

they're fucking cheered. It's like a wrestling crowd. And he was a big deal to the people of Tennessee and the memory of him because he's been dead since the early 70s, I think. But anyway, so that came completely out of left field and nobody would have ever dreamed that, but you can't get away with anything anymore,

even if you're Buford Pusser. So he shot himself in the jaw? Apparently, to make it look good. I mean, I know he might have learned about blading in the wrestling business, but that's going a little bit far. But no, because his whole story has been shot full of holes and that either apparently she was shot out,

outside the car, which completely contradicted the whole thing that he was saying and blah, blah, all this other stuff. But right after Bobby and Clyde came out. Yeah, there you go. They made an official announcement about this. But no, the story always was that Buford Pusser had been a rest, a small time pro wrestler, Buford the Bull, and then in the Chicago area. that's you know and then had come back home i believe i believe he was from

tennessee to adamsville wherever the fuck he lived and became sheriff of mcnery county and then went through all this shit because there was a lot of backwards hillbilly crime in that part of the state in those days and then he started getting booked on the the actual the ghouless welch wrestling show as special appearance by or special referee. I've seen a number of clippings over the, from the 60s of Beaufort Pusser being a special attraction there

because it wasn't that far from Memphis. And, you know, in between Memphis and Nashville, everybody would have known who the fuck he was. But he was, if he had any real wrestling background, it could have been made up bullshit. Who knows with this guy now? But there was nothing on any level until he became sheriff, and then he would be asked to come to the shows and be a guest of some description.

You know, I brought it up before because I think of an ambush, and I think of the end of Bonnie and Clyde, which was a big deal. Bonnie and Clyde opened, it debuted in Montreal, August 4th, 67, opened throughout the United States starting August 13th, 1967. Beauford Pusser's wife was shot August 12th,

1967, the day before. That's crazy. Well, you know, it was like it was going around. It's like, remember back in the fucking 60s, you had about a 50% chance of dying in a quicksand fucking pool.

Remember because all the TV shows, the movies, everything, They've since, they did some telethons and they've eradicated the problem now. But back in the 60s, yeah, about 50% of all deaths were caused by Quicksand. I hadn't even thought about that in a long time, but there were so many things with Quicksand on TV here and I was a kid. I still haven't encountered it anywhere. Well, see, now that's because the world is a safer place now because, you know, of the

quicksand activists. All right, well, Beauford Pouser, pusser. Puscer. Puser. Boy, you are just a, just a Yankee. Just through and through our Beaufort Pouser. Beaufort Pusser. Beaufort Pusser, walking tall by gum.

He says walking tall. Another legend taken down by his own actions after his death. No, the actions he took were before his death. he was fairly inactive after his death. Jim, let's stay on the topic of death. Let's talk about the star ratings and the Observer for AEW Forbidden Door. You reviewed this last week,

but it's always interesting to hear how Dave rated it with his star ratings compared to your thoughts on the card. I can't remember anything it was on that show at this point. It's like when you just put a six-hour VHS tape on high-speed fast-for. it just flies by you. Let's let him remind us. Well, these are the pre-show matches. I don't think you saw these.

Yuya Imura. Alcom. And El Desperado and Roderick Strong and Kyle O'Reilly defeated Action Andretti and Leo Rush and Josh Alexander and Hecaccharo

12 minutes, 14 seconds, 3 and a half stars. Well, it was almost up there with a Kurt Angle masterpiece. Ricochet, Toa Leona, and Bishop Khan defeated Michael Oku, Kevin Knight and Mike Bailey, nine minutes and 56 seconds, four-star match.

Oh, Jesus Christ. Nine minutes and 56 seconds, four-star. This was super. See, you know, again, you know, these guys are so great because it took flare and steamboat like, what, 30, 40 minutes to get four stars. And these guys got it in nine. Megan Bain, Sky Blue, Tecla, and Julia Hart, defeated Willow Nightingale,

Queen Amanata, and Harley Cameron, and Chris Statlander. Oh, jeez. Eleven minutes, 15 seconds, three and three quarter stars. Well, they slipped in right in the middle. He didn't want to offend anybody, so he kind of slid them right in the middle. I'm just thinking, Brian, whether or not they have a big crowd, for the AEW shows out in the arena? Do they have to now start renting stadiums

just because of the fucking size of the locker room? It wasn't 116 people on a card. Well, that was just the pre-show. I remember they had a Ring of Honor show that weekend, too, I believe. But Samoa Joe is now the main car. You know what? It would have made it cheaper if Tony had just leased two 747 jumbo jets.

and just picked them all up and fucking took them over there and back instead of buying plane tickets. See what Tony should really do is start his own Jumbojet company and then at least the Jumbo Jets to AEW. Make money on both ends. Let's go back here. One more match on the pre-show, Jim.

Samoa Joe, Powerhouse Hobbs, and Katsuri Shibbada defeated Drilla Maloney. What? Defeated Drilla Maloney. Where the fuck? That sounds like a goddamn lumber company here in Louisville.

Where did that come from? With Robbie X and Clark Connors. Old Chuck Connors is back. Nine minutes, 59 seconds, three and a half stars. So is that an eight woman, an eight man, and two six man tags? I believe so, yes. So there's eight and eight, 16, 16, that's 28 wrestlers plus assorted periphery, hangar-ons at ringside on the pre-show.

Well, glad we got that out of the way so we can get the show started. Yeah, that's why it's such an insult when you're not booked. Because everyone is booked. Every single person's on this show. How can I not get on this show?

Where's A.R. Fox? Jim, the main show, Adam Copeland and Christian Cage, defeated Kill Switch and Kip Sabian. Oh, boy. Remember this turned dreary in spots. 13 minutes, 46 seconds, three and a half stars. Okay.

All right. Kyle, oh, go ahead. I was just about to say if he thought this was three and a half, I mean, I don't see any way in the world. Anything else is going to go below that, do you? Well, Jim will find out. Kyle Fletcher defeated Hiromu Takahashi 15 minutes, 27 seconds. Every single bit of it. Four and a half stars.

This was the little Japanese dough boy with the pink hair and the green genie pants and the green shoes. As Dave said it, this was excellent, and had to overcome the fact that nobody believed Takahashi had a chance to win. You think? I would have believed that somebody's grandmother could have rolled in and snatched it from him. What the, how's that four and a half stars? If you've got this alleged star you're trying to build

that takes 15 minutes to beat a guy's a foot shorter, a whole lot worse shape, and it looks like a fucking soggy bowl of Cheerios. Well, Jim, the next match, Mercedes-Money defeated Bozzilla, Persephone,

I really like Persephone better. Persephone has a better ring to it. And, oh, oh, there goes Tokyo. Oh, oh, Bozilla. And Alex Winser, 15 minutes, 28 seconds, three and a quarter stars. Oh, okay.

That's the low. He had to recognize. You better recognize. He recognized. This match was creative as hell. But not everything worked perfectly. See, there's the qualifier. But not everything worked perfectly.

Yeah. Such as three or four of the participants. Chip, the next match. Kyle Saber Jr. Who? Oh, excuse me, Zach Saber Jr. Yeah. They snuck another one in on him.

Zach Saber Jr. Who is this fucking Sabre guy? And how does he keep recreating himself? Defeated Nigel McGuinness, 17 minutes, one second. four and a half stars. Oh, good God. It was fancy. At this point,

he's giving the guys that are a higher rating that are they're imitating guys he would give a lower rating to. It's come to this. Well, no, there's still more. Jim Bandito and Brody King won a three-way over Shelton, Benjamin, and Bobby,

Lashley and FTR 16 minutes 4 seconds four star match. Ooh. Okay, we know that there were obvious problems with it and a lot of it stizunk and it didn't even put the belts on FTR so that they could build their own company's pay-per-view match with Edge and Christian in Toronto, their hometown. but it was a four-star match that just blistered the tour of the house down. Rarely see anything like it. Well, there's still more house here to burn down, Jim.

Kazushka Okada defeated Swerve Strickland, 16 minutes, 38 seconds. Okay, he's, Dave is genetically incapable about being honest about Okada. Four and a quarter stars. Ha ha ha ha! Tony Storm. I've seen matches with radio DJs where they tried harder and took better bumps. Tony Storm defeated Athena, 15 minutes, 14 seconds,

three and three quarter stars. Mercifully, I avoided that match and so I can't disagree with him and probably do, but I can't. Adam Page defeated MJF, 31 minutes, 16 seconds, 4 and 3 quarter stars, which is as good as 5, I believe Davis said. Yes, it's just, we're arguing about nothing if it's between 4 and 3 quarters and 5. Why do you go into 25 percentiles? But nevertheless, she's...

Again, this, the MJF tried. I did mention it was the best Adam Page match in a while, which is not a huge compliment, but they did veer off into nothing can beat anybody, but not as bad as most of the clowns in this territory. But the idea that this somehow ranks with the great matches of mankind is a little fucking, Blah.

Well, Jim, finally, a lights-out cage match. Kenny Omega, Will Osprey, Coda Ibushi, Darby Allen, Swami, barking at the metalman, Hiroshi, and Hiroshi Tanahashi. Swami has more aggression than most of the people in the cage match. Defeated John Moxley, Gabe Kidd, Claudio Castignoli, and the Young Bucks 32 minutes, 26 seconds.

five-star match. Ha, ha, ha. Was it the gummy bears that put it over the top for him? Do you think that was it when they hauled out the gummy bears? Oh, my God, this is paradise. This is a greatest wrestling match I've ever seen. They've used the gummy bears. Serious question.

Do you think Dave feels at all guilty about, you know, when you look at the fact that Omega could barely work, Or he can only work a handful of matches, has to be hidden in tag matches. If he works at a singles match, he can't walk again for weeks or whatever it is. Osprey's out, back surgery, swerve out. I have all the guys that he ranks the highest, and that the star rating never goes down, it always just stays at that level, or the guys who can't work a regular schedule,

and you have to worry about their future injury-wise. Well, but again, that's... Dave shouldn't feel guilty because... If somebody who's stupid or a mark or easily swayed and bamboozled by flattery takes your words and lets get in the way of their business, it's not really your fault. They shouldn't pay attention to Dave in the first place in that degree. but I saw a comment on the internet recently where they quoted old swerve

and say, well, if I get the five stars, that's great, but I just want to go out there and entertain people or whatever. But you know, I didn't get the chance to have five stars till I came here. He's doing a bad job of hiding. He was really going for the five stars. He just couldn't do it at the other place

because they, I don't know, had fucking sense, logic, reason, whatever. There's an attitude that you can only have a five-star match if you could do whatever you want to do. Exactly. And that's exactly wrong. And you only get a five-star match from Uncle Dave. And unfortunately, as we see, that does not reflect the viewpoint anymore, if it ever did, of even a casual wrestling fan. It's just this subset of, oh, God, we want to see the jumping bomb angels reunite and whatever the fuck that he's been preaching to for 30 years.

It's come to this. But nobody else thinks that's a great match when you don't know who the fuck the people are in it. You don't care what the fucking issue is. You don't goddamn believe half the shit that's going on. And then they pull out a flamethrower and set somebody. on fire. That's not the greatest wrestling match ever to most people.

I like the jumping bomb angels for the record. Very talented tag team. Have you seen them lately though? I have not. One of them had a restaurant. They might bomb. I don't know if they'll jump. One of them had a restaurant actually on St. Mark's Place for a good while.

But how was her clam? How do we end this on a positive note? Is the question a lot of you may be asking, Let me ask you about this. A popular story, a lot of people are sending it over. It's mainstream news. Have you seen The Rock?

Yes. What? We have pretty much solved the riddle of whether he's going to wrestle anytime soon, which that would be no. He's lost 50 pounds. Didn't we see him just a few months ago? He looked normal? Or how...

What's normal? How long has it been? Well, normal for him. Or is he looked normal six months ago? No, okay, normal for the rock would be big and jacked up and muscular, and normal for a normal person would be not, but now he looks like a normal person instead of the normal rock. So what happened here?

Well, again, he's in the smashing machine, got a standing ovation, which caused him to cry. I saw Tom Cruise got a standing ovation for a mission impossible not too long ago, so... But he was standing on a couch. Show up, you'll get a standing ovation. But that's, again, he probably lost it for a role. He needs to, he's now all about trying to prove that he could act, not that he's just a big steroid freak doing action movies that have a diminishing audience.

But he's just, he was just the smashing machine and now he's the, you know, goddamn, you know, slim trim, slim Whitman. I don't know who he is. He's very, very thin, very small. Well, if you remember how thin he got when he first went to Hollywood, like in 2003, 2004, he got very, very slim. And for a while, that was kind of his look in Hollywood. And then he realized that the bulked-up look was the one that made him money, and he went with that.

Now it's going the other way. That doesn't really work as well. And the Black Adam thing, I mean, I don't think you could really, you know, minimize the damage that did to his career and his psyche. That that thing bombed so publicly, not just the movie, but just everything they were trying to do to D.C. So I think now Maybe that's what it is

The worry has got He's got an ulcer maybe That's what he's losing weight Either that or he's got some kind of flesh eating bacteria Or he's off the sauce Maybe it's just the worry You think he's off the sauce?

You think he's off the sauce? The steroids The tequila or the The gas, the juice, the steroids The candy I mean, if he's taking him, I don't know why the fuck he would be because isn't that the goddamn

opposite of what, you know, what you would take him for? Let me take some steroids as he gets smaller. Does anybody do that? It's good for GoWertz and whoever, you know, carries his piss. What steroids? Well, no, I got to think the less shit he takes, the less piss.

Like throughout the day, that, like, unhealthy, like, hey, I'm taking all sorts of supplements. I'm pissing all over the place. he's not swigging the steroids out of a goddamn gatorade bottle of steroids are going to make you piss and supplements like the fucking protein bars and the energy drinks and the like that doesn't make you piss any

or whatever horse hormone he's on that got him to look the way he's looked for the last decade as unnaturally big as anyone I've ever seen in my life it's it's I'm telling you it's the genes from because out in the Pacific Island they didn't have pollution until about 30 years ago. So all those folks have better genes. All right.

Well, are you interested in seeing Smashing Machine? Getting good reviews coming out of the Cannes film festival or can. Coming out of the can? Get good reviews coming out of the can because he washed his hands. No, I'm morbidly curious because remember when we first saw the makeup and we did a report on that. And some people were panning the movie. from seeing the trailer that they had put out at that time, saying that it's like the movie's kind of like a parody,

but the Rock was playing it straight. What do you think they got everybody else in the movie to parody things just so that Rock would look like the actor by default? Or how do you get a 15-minute standing ovation? How do you get some people to stand up for 15 minutes? Well, again, it's not an uncommon thing at these film festivals. we'll see what happens once it gets to the states and how they market. Here's the thing, after you got to about seven minutes and 45 seconds,

even if you were the person they were applauding, wouldn't you start screaming? Can you sit down and shut the fuck up? Yeah. This is ridiculous. Do you know how long that would be to just stand there? Yeah. The only way it works is that they literally pick you up and carry you on their shoulders,

like walking down the street and people were just walking along, clapping and cheering. Not if like you're just standing on the steps looking at it. everyone and they keep clapping. Exactly, and they outlawed that because they kept having heart attacks. You can't carry people down the street anymore while you're clapping and cheering. Did you know that? It's against the statutes. What did you think about the fact that it became mainstream news that the Rock, even before,

you know, the standing ovation and anything else, the fact that he showed up looking the way he did, there were people that thought he looked sickly. There were people that, you know, right away, everyone's like, what happened to the Rock? What's different about the Rock? what do you think about the fact that that became news I will because any I don't think anything of it because anytime that there's some type of startling visually

either somebody looks remarkably different either to the positive or the negative that they used to that people remark on it but what I'm trying to fear is how the fuck did he do that again I don't remember when the last time we saw him on television was. I know obviously Unreal was recorded last spring.

It was February, right? We saw him in February, I think. Well, that Netflix was January. And so Elimination Chamber was the last time we saw him, right? Okay. But goddamn, it's not like he was a fat, sloppy fuck, and

he could just put the donut down and start working out and lose weight, because he had muscle to begin with. How do you go and work out to lose muscle? And how can you diet that many pounds off when it wasn't fat to begin with in that amount of time? That's what I am most stunned about. You know, back in my day, when I was built like that, when I was younger, it was easy for me, but I know, I got an inhuman constitution. All right. Well, we'll see what happens with the

Rock will see if he does show up, it'd be weird with the final boss, the man who he declared himself as the greatest heel of all time, if he showed up looking slimmer. It changes the conversation. He's not imposing anymore. That was one of the things. The Rock, even in his prime, he's never imposing, even though he's naturally a big guy. He became an imposing figure. If he shows up half the size, he ain't going to look like an imposing figure anymore. He's going to be a mere pebble.

He's on the Nikita Kohl-off diet. No, you know what? That did take away Nikita Kolozora when he lost that weight. Yeah. I mean, his whole, and think about it, that's another guy that Dusty took, just on a sideline here, the Dusty took from nobody'd ever heard of him, he'd not been in wrestling, to making him a major NWA world title contender that drew 25, 27,000 people, whatever it was in Charlotte at Stadium with Flair.

in like a year, maybe a year and a half. And that was remarkable, but it was his look. And once that he wasn't, God, I don't know what he was when he was his biggest, 300 pounds and just jacked. And he went to like 240 and looking healthy. People were like, eh, and the hair. Well, we'll see what happens with the rock gym. and of course,

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Wanted to play you some audio. A ton of people have been sending it over. I want to get your thoughts. Have you heard about Mr. T's daughter? I didn't have anything to do with it. What happened to her? Mr. T's daughter is a comedian. Her name is Erica.

Well, then wouldn't it be comedian? A comedian. Erica Nicole Clark. And I just saw, as everyone else seen me. That's an unwieldy name. It's very long. Erica Nicole Clark, was Mr. T? I thought he was Mr. T, not Mr. C, was his last name, Clark.

What was this is the second marriage? What's going on here with this woman? I haven't heard of it. Again, I don't know. I don't know why you're focusing on all this, but let's talk about before you rip her down for her name and everything else here. Some of her stand-up has gone out there, and it involves wrestling. So a lot of the listeners have wanted to get your thoughts on it, knowing that you love comedy. And, of course, she loved wrestling.

We'll stop this along the way and talk about it. But here's Mr. T. T's daughter, Erica Nicole Clark. My dad is Mr. T. What? Yeah. Um, yeah, Mohawk Colchang. Most people think I'm lying when I say that, but I'm like, why would I pick him?

Like, who the fuck is lying about Mr. T, right? And I grew up in the 80s and 90s, so either everyone believed me or no one believed me. Like, there was no in between. I grew up in a very wealthy neighborhood, so everybody believed me there because they were like, why the fuck else is your black ass here, right? Like, when I was a kid, we lived on the south side of Chicago. And like, I get it. Like, I'm a black girl at an all-black school.

And I'm trying to explain to my friends that the reason why they've never seen my dad before is because he's doing WrestleMania with Hulk Hogan. Right. Like, everybody was like, shit the fuck up, Erica, right? Let me stop her there for a moment. Any initial thoughts? She's funny, first of all. And secondly, that has to be true.

One would think. Yeah. You know, she's at some ritzie school or whatever. Where's your dad? Well, he's off doing it. He's Mr. T. bullshit. Let's go back to this. And this is from her Instagram, I believe.

Erica Nicole Clark. Those were the teachers, right? So I got this complex. And this is for real. My friends will tell you or like people I meet. If I'm on stage, I'll talk about my dad, but I never tell people like who my dad is or stuff I've seen, because no one ever believes me,

and they, like, really don't. Like, I will give you an example. Like, because, like, when I was in kindergarten, first grade, like, kids kind of, like, ostracized me and wouldn't talk to me because I was, like, little lion-ass, Erica, you know, like, they didn't believe me. And so this one weekend, all right, I'm telling you guys this. Don't tell anybody in the story. But this one weekend went to this WrestleMania event with my dad,

and he was partners with Hulk Hogan, right? And my dad was the first time I was seeing wrestling live, right? So my dad's like, don't worry about it. fake. He's telling me, I have a sister who's eight years older than me, he's like, oh, don't worry about it. It's all fake, whatever, blah, blah. He's in this wrestling match with this guy name Roddy, Roddy Piper. Do you guys

know who that is? Okay. We stop by there for a second. Any thoughts on him smartening up his kids? Well, I mean, I wouldn't really expect Mr. T to have the deep, abiding respect for the wrestling business that

he was just being in as a publicity stunt to not tell his kids that, you know, the other guys are not trying to beat him up. I wouldn't expect any different. But it's, I like, when he said at a WrestleMania event, like everything he was at was WrestleMania, TV, the whatever that she may have gone with. But, um, but no, I don't expect him to keep, keep the business secrets safe from, from his children there.

And by the way, it may have been WrestleMania. If it's about Mr. T, teaming up with Hulk Hogan against Ronnie. Well, yeah, well, I mean, whether, you know, again, whether she went to any of the other functions with them where they were doing whatever the fuck. Let's go back to this story. Oh, but also Piper, that's not a wrestling crowd, right? But Piper got a pop.

Yeah. Again, they live still as a cult following. But let's go back to Eric and Nicole Clark. And it's another dude or whatever, right? So my dad gets into the ring and immediately Roddy, Wadi Piper flips my dad in a way and he cracks my dad's ribs, right? So my dad has to go to the emergency room, right? and some, me and my sister are crying, whatever,

they take my dad to the ER, they bring him back to, he comes back to the hotel room, he's all bandaged up, and like, Hulk Hogan's in our hotel room, and Hawke Hogan's doing, like, lines of cocaine, right? And he still has the yellow shorts on, right? And he's like, T, I'm going to fuck him up when I see.

I swear to God, I'm going to fuck him up, and my dad's just like, oh, God, my ribs hurt so badly, right? And then there's a knock at the door, and it was Rowdy, Routy-Ridy Piper, right? And he goes, A.T., I'm real sorry about what happened. And Hulk Hogan's like, fuck that. And grabs Rod Riper and brings him into the hotel room, throws him against the wall, smashes the mirror.

They're beating him. My dad's trying to break it up. Hulk Hogan's wife, Linda's there. And she's like, Terry, stop, right? And I'm like, wow. I didn't know if that was his name, right? And my mom is trying to make my dad stop. And they're just beating and all this stuff is flipped over and shit like that.

Me and my sister are crying. And then we get on a plane. We come back to Chicago. I go to class, we're sitting in a sharing circle, and the teacher's like, what did you do this weekend? And I was like, not a fucking thing. All right, I will carry my car, thanks. Well, there it is.

There's her, the closer of her set. What do you think of that story? What do you think of her delivery? Well, her delivery is great. Like I said, she's funny. She got the timing and the blah, blah, blah. But I feel like I'm critiquing what of Paul Heyman's stories. Now we're faced with the choice of believing that she made,

it up for entertainment purposes or all these guys decided to do an angle in front of Mr. T's family specifically to scare his children. I have to believe that it's made up for entertainment purposes. Really? What makes you say that? Did they jerk him into the red, throw him up against the wall and start breaking mirrors and beating on him? Would Hulk Hogan or...

Or anyone who was closely working with Vince McMahon at that point in 1985, but we're talking about the period around the first WrestleMania, would they have been legitimately upset if, much like David Schultz going after Mr. T. in L.A., if someone actually hurt him and possibly scared him away? Well, if it was some fucking jackoff, but no, not Piper, not the people that were involved in the goddamn, is it? No. That, no, they didn't get in a fight in a hotel room for a legitimate shoot, which is what she's describing, or one would think felt the need to work an angle

just in front of Mr. T's children. And, no, and was it, and actually, I don't honestly remember, but I'm wanting to believe that Mr. T, if he did end up with cracked ribs, wasn't that from the goddamn boxing match that he and Piper had a year later at 86? Or was he, did he have cracked ribs there? Was he just blown up and ready to puke? Just about every time we saw him, he was blown up.

So I don't know when the crack ribs would have been, but obviously if you have crack ribs, that would cause you to, at a minimum blow up in the match. Well, but again, regardless, no, if the boy, none of the boys would have taken Mr. T's side against Roddy Piper even if Mr. T. did end up with cracked ribs or whatever, which again, I think this is an entertainment story based on real events. Because we've never heard of the idea that Hulk Hogan slapped around or did anything to Roddy

Piper. And it was always heat between the two because Piper refused a job to him ever. There was never anything. There was that old-fashioned wrestling heat that there was like between a lot of the top guys in a few different territories that. and between Thess and Rogers, et cetera, that didn't mean that they ever had any actual legitimate physical issue that wasn't in a worked situation.

There could still be heat. You know who could maybe answer if this happened or not, Linda Hogan? Oh, well, the soul of veracity, if she says that I believe it, you can notarize her tongue. It's been out in the sun long enough, probably somebody already has. So Hogan's still in his trunks and he's doing cocaine. Linda's there.

Mr. T's kids are there just watching Hulk Hogan do cocaine. And then Piper knocks on the door to apologize. I mean, that's typically what would happen if a wrestler accidentally hurt another wrestler. Yes, they'd wait until everybody brought to TV star and his kids into the cocaine party before they'd come in and publicly apologize. Do we add this to the Hulk Hogan omnibus, or is this a separate thing because it's not really his story. This might be like a sad car.

This might be like, you know, is this one of the tour guides recreating a famous incident at a theme park type of thing? We'll make it Hulk Hogan adjacent. Well, we'll see what more, if anything, emerges about this story, probably nothing. But there it is Mr. T's daughter, The Comedian. Oh, rather abrupt ending, but Jim, you know what that means? that means it is time for the classy portion of the show. We're going to head over to Gay Paris.

Gay Paris! For WWE's Clash in Paris. Oh, my little flower blossom. Oh, come I will kiss your... I will kiss your arm. I will kiss your shoulder. I will kiss my money goodbye in the divorce. Let's talk about it.

Clash in Paris, WW's latest international extravaganza. Their last peacock premium live event. That even sounds like a parody. Our last peacock premium live event. See, you're just trying

to be a stick in the mud and rain me in, Brian, and I'm trying not to take any of this too seriously this week. The clash in Paris had 30,000 people at the event, and 28,742 of them love karaoke.

The Europeans are a singing bunch of folks. Is this a thing that is just, it's, it's completely that whole region of the world over there is just going to do this nonstop. It is now spread over here. You hear it now at American Wrestling shows, specifically because of these international events that have taken place and the fans just nonstop

singing, in this case, dancing. It was almost like they, like, conjured up a power from their dancing and caused things to happen. Yes, the lights flickered. I thought they were going to pair off into the goddamn, you know, the soul train fucking line there where they could dance down the middle individually, but they didn't. He was like, we're going to dance until what we want to happen happens.

Let's go and sing. Now, it's a lot. And they've got their own chance, though. And obviously some of it was in a foreign language of some description. What do they speak over there in France? French. Huh. Well.

See, at least they're logical people. So let's start at the beginning. I speak some French. You want to hear it? Oh, go ahead. I surrender. Oh, come on now. It's terrible.

What would Lebeau think of you at a time like this? He was fighting the good fight, and the first... French resistance. Vive la France. Vive la resistance. See, I can get somebody else a gimmick in the WWF just off an old Hogan's Heroes episode. Anyhow, so these singing, dancing,

son of a bitches came to see this show. And is it me, Brian, or did this magnify, again, the differences, AW? they can get a house still in London or whatever or for one of their big pay-per-view events, but they were in the fucking ECW arena last week and, you know, committed 17 acts of attempted

mayhem and homicide in front of 900 people and it never stops. And here they've got 30,000 people. And I swear to God, this was the slowest-paced wrestling show. Up top to bottom, there were good things. Now, that opening match, I mean, we'll get to it momentarily. That took forever.

But it just, the, the, again, I know people are going to say, oh, Cornette, you know, the territory days were the way. Well, they were. But I'm not even telling you, if you go back to what everybody still tries to praise and replicate what got us into this mess, the attitude era, those goddamn classic matches that drew all those huge crowds and sellouts and pay-per-views and blah, blah, blah.

They didn't go 35, 40 fucking minutes every goddamn night, multiple times per night. Austens and takers and bears, oh my, all those names, they got in there for their grudge matches, their main events, their title shit, the stuff that's set up with angles, and they fucking had a kick-ass, fucking fight. They didn't waste any time. They didn't let grass grow on them.

And they tore the house down and got to fuck out of there. And I just, they have completely evolved the style. I'm not saying that you should go 100 miles an hour, whether you're over or not in every match, whether you're getting any feedback or investment from the crowd or not and do just spot after spot after spot, like the indie folks. But Jesus Christ, I've seen guys boat down selling on this pay-per-view longer than some matches used to take. It would seem, again, there would be some type of happy medium is all I'm saying. Unfortunately, there isn't. Well, thank you very much.

That's what reality is smacking us in the face with. So the opening match was Bronson Reed versus Roman Reigns and you haven't lived until you've heard. You know, the best part of, to me, of Romans' entrance in this show because it takes a while, again, for him to get there. But his music has that slow groove and there were 30,000 really white people with no rhythm trying to sing Roman, Roman, Roman Rains.

to his music, which it sounded like trying to sing the Partridge family over Beethoven. It didn't fucking fit. No, the British fans are very good at it. The French fans haven't been able to successfully nail that part of it. Maybe there's some kind of, I don't know, problem with the French School of Music, all the famous French composers.

They didn't deal in funky Samoian. an entrance music. And anyway, then they sang with no music. And then finally, they rang the bell. And they didn't do anything, and the fans sang some more. And then they didn't do anything else, and the fans chanted. And then they did a collar and elbow lockup and milk and got some more chance. And I swear, I was like, for the, didn't there one tackle, two tackles, some

I said, it's a spot show match. This is not a grudge match. The guy stole his shit. He had his shoe La Fala. The whole thing with Heyman, this big fucking animosity they built up and they're doing the 10 punches in the corner in the first five minutes. Did this seem odd to you? This entire match and the match layout seemed odd to me. It was an endless match. with a very long post-match, even though that was better than the actual match, that too took a long time.

But this match... They certainly lulled you into thinking it wasn't going to happen, I'll agree with you. This match went forever. This was brutal. This was like these guys doing AEW's main events. Like, we'll do 30 minutes,

no matter what. They went forever. I didn't even write down how much time. It felt like it went 40 minutes this match. Well, hold on. I believe I did... It felt like 40 minutes. minutes. What was it? Uh, 40 minutes plus. Counting all of the various things that were going on

in the thing. This was brutal. And at one point, Michael Cole said, well, you know, Roman Raines only wrestled four times this year, but Bronson Reed's been in the ring every week. Do you think that'll play a part? Didn't he, wouldn't he off for like months with a broken ankle? Yeah. And he just come back not long ago? And by the way, this comes on the heels of them bragging again on commentary. Roman Raines held the title as long as almost anyone. Yeah, and he defended the title less times than anyone.

Barely wrestled. But I mean, they'd do something. They'd have a flurry at one point Bronson Reed rock-bottomed Roman Rains on the desk, but then I'm making notes like

Bronson Reed stops Roman Rains, gets slow-paced heat. Why can't anybody go all out for nine minutes and tear the house down and leave anymore. The fans were singing during a chin lock, long chin lock. Ten minutes in, I'm saying, hurry up. Imagine how wrestling fans would treat Big John Studd differently today if when he was putting someone in a chin lock, they all sang.

It changes the whole atmosphere. It makes guys seem better than they are. Well, actually, sometimes it doesn't. sometimes it seems obvious that people are just entertaining themselves at the expense of things in the match you're trying to get over if you're one of the guys in the match.

I mean, you know, Reed can get aggressive, but he's 300 and whatever pounds. He can't be aggressive for 30 minutes straight and he's more impressive when he is aggressive. But I really get the pace is glacial, nothing wrong, just slow. And then they started some, you know, big false finishes, whatever. Bronson Reed, fold a spear, hit a power bomb, got a two count.

And then finally they set it up. Roman Raines got a Samoan drop off the top rope and speared him, one, two, three. It's kind of okay, they just, they just finished. It didn't, the energy wasn't there. and that the match was 20 minutes plus and I wrote 10 would have been fine but then Paul is trying to comfort or resuscitate or whatever Bronson Reed and Roman Ray Roman Reed Roman that Roman rains sees Paul and his shoes and then Paul turns around and sees Roman reigns and he begs and pleads and oh my tribal cheese

chief, I've always loved you. And Paul handed over the Shula Fala, and that got a big pop. But then, oh, bless him, they had to get Roman reigns for what they're going to do, had to get his hands on the manager,

get his hands on Paul to some extent, but because of Paul's current condition, I don't know when he's ever going to have this thing. It may be twins or triplets by now. But Roman Rains grabs him in a front face lock while Paul is standing up and it slowly lets him go to his knees as he chokes him out.

Poor Paul. How old is Paul now, Brian? Is he 60 yet? What is he? Five years younger than me? We've talked about this before. Yeah, we have, and I don't remember. Let me check.

Paul Heyman. He can't be 60 yet. 59 years old. It says here, 231 pounds. Ha! What year was that written? 1997? Anyway, he front-face-locked him and he slowly slumped to the ground. Bless him, bless his little heart.

I would have gone for the big bump if it had been me. You know me, Brian. I was like the Chris Colt of wrestling managers. Can't give me too many bumps, but... Oh, well, we don't want anybody to get hurt. Anyway, so then... Roman Raines gets on the desk. He's celebrating.

He's signing the shoes and tossing him to the crowd. And here comes Braun Breaker with a spear, announced desk to announce desk. And just blistered him. And then they see Jelly Roll in the crowd shitting over there. Jelly Roll went to Paris for this show. Well, no, I think they did say that he is a concert there. It just so happens that he's there.

I think they said, no, it's just so happy. He's not a stalker. It just so happens he shows up in Paris. You kind of have to be an international celebrity to be able to afford these ringside tickets to some of these shows. Well, but it just seems odd that the scheduling would be. I think he's trying to follow them around.

I think he's got to fever now. He's got to fever in the morning and fever all through the night. You give me fever. Oh, boy. What is French jelly? Is there a cure for this fever? That's the question. Yes.

listeners are asking themselves. Well, anyway, here came the officials. The heels helped Paul up and milked it forever while Romans down and they're leaving. And then Braun came around and gave him another spear. And then they threw Roman in and Bronson Reed splashed him. And then all the officials and the security and everybody, they get the stretcher out, the EMTs and the heels again are taking forever to go. and you see the camera's on still going back and forth on everybody.

So you're kind of realizing that something else is going to happen. And then finally, he gets on a stretcher and then Reed comes back another splash. And then Jay Uso comes out and makes a comeback. But they stop him and they get him down. And then they finally end up splashing Roman again. It's just that that last part, easily took another 10 minutes. So this whole thing was, and the bell didn't ring for the match till we were 15 minutes

into the show because the spots, the commercials, the travel logs and the entrances. So it took a while, took a while. Oh, yes. Was there heat? Did you feel it? It wasn't scolding. Was there heat? Singing isn't heat.

Smiling and dancing and singing is in heat. I think they enjoyed watching and singing to the show. It was what I think it was. It took forever. Then they'd the strap him to the thing. Then he just knew it was going to keep going and it did. But it also led itself to an angle for the rest of the show to get rid of everyone. I guess you could say that.

It almost got rid of me. Yeah. All righty then. Well, then we were treated to a tag. team match for some kind of tag team title where the Wyatt's face the street profits. Brian, your thoughts? Yeah, this ain't my tag team division. I like the street

profits too. I think they could be used better. Something that wrestling fans have been saying for a long time now. And sadly, that kind of phrasing runs out of time with certain guys at a certain point. So I don't know what's going on with them and I can't watch the Wyatt's. I can't take them seriously. It doesn't seem like the fans really react to them either. So I don't know. I mean, I know they have like some kind of themed Wyatt thing at Universal

Theme Park, like some kind of Halloween pop-up. So I mean, they're trying to do some. All of the Wyat's, were they big enough to ride the ride? Yeah, I'm not sure, but they're doing something to try to market them, but the fans don't give us. There's not one tag team in this company to fans care about. Well, the Wyatt thing, obviously, they wanted to keep it going because Bray Wyatt was over despite whatever we might have thought positive or negative or all points in between of his

whole fiendishness or whatever. This is like, I can't even draw a simile to a famous 60s or 70s sitcom where they replaced the entire cast and didn't replace the star of the show who also was never a part of it after the, it just didn't work. It was spooky for a while. What do you do with it? It's past the entrance and the spookiness and the lights going out. And it's a very well-lit show.

It's a hard place to be spooky. Yeah, yeah, there's really no place that ghosts and goblins and demons and succubuses and things like that can hide. I mean, the rings well-lit, they like the fans. I mean, everything's lit. Everything's lit up. It's hard to be a spooky demonic character in the light. Would that be succubi?

If it was more than one. What did you think of this match? You asked me my thoughts. You're the tag team expert. I'd love to get yours. I thought it was a good place to skip ahead of the next match. That's what I did. Do you think WW ever have a serious tag team division again

with tag teams that either fans care about or tag teams that actually can generate match heat? Again, they've got one, one at least right now, with Bronson Reed and Bronner. and if they would start now programming some of their top single baby faces to join together, even in a short term to do a little program with these guys and make the belts involved. And then you've got Cess, the world champion, you've got these guys tag team champions. You know, the horsemen come to mind, but any top heel stable, the Heenan family and the AWR,

whatever the case. And then you train the people that tag team matches can be important and the champions can be main event guys again. And then you might be able to do something. And then also that puts more spotlight on brawn and professional jealousy between he and Seth eventually in the same group. And we'll get to what Seth has going on here in a few minutes. But to me that would help.

if you don't, I don't care how they book the tag team division if all the tag team guys are just middle card guys, that's the way the people see all the tag teams. So you have to have main eventers in that mix. We'll see if that happens. Speaking of main eventers, Brian, these were certainly two people

that had been put in main events before. Becky Lynch and Nikki Bella. Oh man, match of the weekend. You know, I don't know that I've ever seen a Bella match in its entirety. I still haven't seen one in its entirety, but I've seen enough. But we asked the question a while back was, do you remember anybody saying, oh, the great Bella match or the great Bella promo or who the fuck, why are these people so revolutionary?

but Becky didn't do herself any favors in this one either yeah I was going to say you could say whatever you want about Nikki Bell but Becky wasn't too far behind well the two things that went viral as the kids say the two spots were one Nikki did something I can't hear what it was but booted Becky Lynch as she was running into the

turnbuckle and she goes down and Nikki turns around and does the Tom Zink Z man flying cross body to nowhere. She jumped up on the middle turnbuckle and did a turnaround cross body and Becky Lynch was nowhere. Nowhere. It wasn't even turned around yet. Wasn't even anywhere reachable. And Nikki Bella just crashes and burns and she was going.

passed her, Becky started to react like, oh shit, should I bump and realize that she had just whiffed and gone completely not even close to her. But that looked like she just decided, I'll turn around and commit Harry Carey now off the top turnbuckle. It will never not be a funny spot when that happens. The Tom Zink Brian Lee won, which was like the first and last time anyone saw Brian Lee in WCW.

that's the greatest one it could ever be just because it's shot perfectly. It's a wide shot. Yes. It's towards the camera. And Zink was so athletic that he just got all kinds of fucking height and momentum and distance and everything. The problem was Brian Lee, for those of you haven't seen it, it was a live clash of champions. Yeah. And Zink hip tossed Brian Lee all the way across the ring and Brian bounced up into the far turn

buckle and by the time he was back to his feet, Zink had jumped up on the turnbuckle that was all the way across the ring from Brian Lee and just did a turnaround crossbody into the void and fell and rolled to Brian Lee's feet and Brian just kicked him in a head. But then later on in this match, Becky and Nikki, Nikki was supposedly ramming. this was the other one that went viral. Becky's head into the announcer desk.

And actually she would bounce her off one desk and then the other desk and then the one desk and then the other desk. But not only was she just doing it with so little effort because Becky was doing the whole thing. So it was just like a blasé, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb. But Becky quit trying after two or three and was just slapping the day. with her hands in front of her face and going along with it.

And I think when Nikki went let loose of her, Becky went into the desk one more time just out of force of habit. And it's what. You see, that's Becky more than Nikki. Oh, yeah. No, that's, I'm sorry. But a lot of the, the girl wrestling of these days is a lot of this shit. but so is the guys, to be honest with you.

Because it's like that they have said, oh, we're in big buildings, the people are so far away. We'll just throw punches or kicks or whatever that just come in the vicinity. And the other guy will just cover up and make it look like shit anyway, even if it does make some kind of contact. And then we'll just act like it's just, because we'll slap our leg and people will go,

ooh, it's high definition television. The guys in the smaller buildings or in the smaller TV studio shows of the territories or just because even if they were in big buildings but it was still regular television, they made their shit look better and snugger and a little more credible to say the least.

then these guys that are on high definition 4K fucking TV with 27 different camera angles. And they think they can just kind of get close and it works. Finally, Becky Lynch rolled her up one, two, three. So you had that going for you.

Yeah, not a, not a good match and kind of embarrassing at times. Obviously, Antonio Onoki's quite mad about the whole thing. I'm going to get this to play that song. at some point. It will happen. Do you think he didn't want to slap both of them? Give him some fighting spirit. I don't know. Maybe, you know, when people aren't around,

he would say, please slap me. You never know with anoki. But, yeah, this match wasn't good. And obviously, Becky Lynch has bigger things in store for her, which they tease later on, but they become more official with the next night. Well, nevertheless, we will get there when we get there, because next up was a good old fashire. Donnybrook match with Rusev and Seamus. And again, this is so ridiculous.

They've taken the idea of a street fight in wrestling where you come dressed as you want and bring what you want and you've got a chair or you got a stick or you got a guy, whatever. And they have made it look so phony and silly and staged and like the set of a game show that you can't take it seriously. It's not about guys having a fight, settle an issue. It's about guys falling through furniture again.

The beer kegs set up around the ring, the Kendo sticks and chairs, these slim gym tables everywhere, the bar, because you had Seamus's shalas, Seamus's shal. Laley. It's like watching AEW where the indie kids are playing, except

this is, they're probably going to spend a little bit more money on getting professionals to dress this set, and they won't take as many bumps. It's like watching AEW except Miro came back to the States. Well, yes, they didn't have to film this

live from Bulgaria. But it's just, it's silly indie shit, which is why the the kids that grow up watching this shit think that somehow you can't have a wrestling match without furniture stacked around the ring. It's obviously there to be used in a phony endeavor. And this is all the same. And I realized that I was watching Rusev whack Seamus with a Kendo stick over and over.

And I said, anybody can do this. there's no sense in reviewing it. There's no talent to it. It didn't sell one ticket of the 30,000 that are there to see it. It's just stuck on the card to clutter shit up. And I got better things to do. So I skipped ahead about 10 minutes to see what would happen.

And Seamus gave Rusev his finish off the top of the beer kegs through two tables to the floor, and then they crawled back in the ring and Rusev got the shalely and turned around and Seamus hit his kick and covered him. One, two, kick. Oh, God damn it!

I fast forward at another ten minutes. It was over with, and we were ready for the title match. But what the fuck? What the ever-loving fuck? Well, this has been kind of their feud. They're having these matches that prove to the world that it's not a work. But again, I can even see, okay, he gives him the finish off the top of the beer kegs,

through two tables to the floor, they crawl back in the ring, the heel gets the gimmick, the baby face hits him with his kick, one, two, three. I can see that. That's the fucking false finish. That's a two count. Jesus Christ. Anyway, so yeah, I thought we were probably mostly done with furniture for the night. So I started back watching with the following contest.

So I don't know who won between Seamus and Rusev and I don't really care. You've never been a big Seamus fan. He's been there a very long time. Rusev had moments as Miro in A.E.W. where you started to kind of get into him and then he would just disappear off TV completely or do nonsensical promos in a studio. Are you surprised the way they've used him

or how they haven't used him since he's returned? It's almost like they just signed him to have him. He's in the middle of this, you know, Ron Garvin, Greg Valentine feud with Seamus. And I don't know if anyone really truly cares about him past that. What are they going to do with this guy? I thought that they would probably be

doing the monster push thing that they're they have done with either a jacob fatu in a different way he's not the same mirro's not there mirro rusev what's his name now rusev's not the same talent as jacob but a big unstoppable guy or the there but they're broncen reed now is that and jacob fatu has been that and brawn breakers kind of that and to be honest i think old ruseb is kind of lost in the shuffle because he's not as good as any of those guys. So now he's fighting Seamus. Well, so far it's been bangor after banger

here in Paris. Well, you know, Paris is the place to get banged. That's what I've always heard. Okay, now the time has come that we've been waiting for it. Apparently all the people in Paris were waiting for it too because it got the most reaction of the night and it was actually still long and still slow,

but the only one-on-one legitimate non-garbage wrestling match of the night, where they didn't rely either on furniture or multiple people or all the other sins that we have come to know. Because people just wanted to see fucking John Cena beat Logan Paul.

They just wanted to see John Cena. And they really wanted to see John Cena. And they really wanted to see Logan Paul. I'm not even sure they cared whether Logan Paul got beat. They wouldn't have liked it if Cena got beat. But it was a chance for them. The crowd got to cheer everybody, sing everybody's song, boo everybody,

chant for the people and wave for the people and whatever. And in this match, they got to do all of their greatest hits. they were able to do all of those things in the same match. And again, Sina from the time that his music hit, which they milked it forever, and then boom, he came to the fans sang his song and chanted for Sina and thank you Sina. And they chanted something that was to the Sizer me daddy tune.

I don't know what the fuck these people are saying over there. But also, did you see the statistic? It was John Sina's first time wrestling in France. How is that possible when you think about it? A lot of these international priorities weren't priorities 10 years ago, 15 years ago, or 20 years ago. They didn't even run all these towns or all these cities. Well, yeah, but I know they didn't make a habit of it,

but first time ever thing. John Sina was in the main events, top level paper. if it was an important tour, he'd be booked on it for years and years, and they never once went to France while he was on a car. That's amazing when you think about it, just for that amount of time. And he's only had 19 matches in Europe. They've been in Europe fucking 19 times the last six months.

So anyway, this, I think, was the match of the night. it could have been better if it was it could have been better if john seen it was 20 years younger but he's not and i'm kind of amazed that he was able to do this well for this long at his age which nobody else has really been working this hard to this level for this long at that age but again it was a smart match there was no doubt john was calling it because you could see his mouth moving almost incessantly. But Logan Paul is just a natural. He just, again, so good and not only is moves, doing the moves,

but the timing and the attitude for having 23 matches or whatever in total. Citas wrestled in Europe almost as many times as Logan Paul's had matches. I liked a lot of it and a lot of it I didn't. Like I said, it's probably the best John Cena match we've seen of his comeback. Logan Paul is amazing with the heel attitude and the way that he's taken to this. The fans waving and singing and dancing incessantly, no matter what the fuck is going on in a lot of cases, to me distracts from what the guys are trying to do in the ring.

I know they're having fun. And they paid their money, they could do whatever. But it just, to me, it would be distracting and throw off momentum that you might be trying to build. And it was a little slow. But at least, again, they had an excuse, John's 50. But they got to take up a lot of time on these shows these days, it seems like. And they had nice false finishes. they didn't as I said have to break all the furniture in the building or set anybody on on fire

and the people were you tell me Brian where the people were into the match happening and seeing it and being there and seeing these people but were the people into the match or were they just entertaining themselves while the match was going on there definitely was a large contingent of fans entertaining themselves. I don't know if it was just because they were so excited over Sina. It definitely wasn't because there was any heat for Logan Paul. They were happy to see it. I mean, you know, that's the other thing.

You have this really talented heel in Logan Paul. He's not going to get any heat in a situation with those fans in this match for Sina, his first and last match in Paris. But yeah, they're distracted. I mean, to be quite honest with you, at points, especially when they started dancing or marching in place, whatever was happening there, the fans were more exciting than the wrestling

for some of this show. Well, yeah, see, and here's the thing, I'll be honest with you, from the time that I got in the business, and a lot of guys are told this, maybe still to this day, when the fans are fucking going crazy and making all that noise, either slow down or sell or lay out, let them make noise. Why, why get up and start beating yourself up when they're already screaming?

You know, take that as a cue to let them, but, but that was in the days when the fans were actually cheering the events that were happening in the match and raving about that rather than just they've all gotten together to where now they're going to do this chant forever. And it wasn't necessarily brought on by a specific thing that happened. in the ring. Does that make sense that it might be a different thing of laying down and letting them do that than not getting up and stepping on your pop for what you've done in your match the old way? Yeah. See what I'm saying? Yeah, it doesn't seem like a place to have

like a great match. Not that people won't love it. But. Well, let that say, you know, And a lot of the guys are going to go, Jesus Christ, we didn't have to take any bumps. Bowie, you still took all the bumps you called. You just took longer to do it. But anyway, finally, then after the fans were hopping and the waving and the singing, and then Logan Paul hit a crossbody off the top rope, Sina rolled through, went for the AA. They did a little doce doe dough back and forth, and Sina hit the AA, one, two, three.

and I wrote at the bottom allowing for Sina's age, and it was a great effort. The crowd liked everything. Didn't necessarily compliment everything, but liked everything, but it was not the Mid-South wrestling style. Let's put it that way. Nor has anything John Sina has ever done been. But, you know, that's that.

Logan Paul gets one of the farewell matches. It's a big moment in his career. and we're on to the next scene. When is him in Brock? I forgot all about that. Oh, that's, that's going to,

that has to be September 20th when they debut on the new thing that they started last week that they're paying a billion and a half dollars for them to do the thing for, don't they? Right? A lot of people don't think it be like it is,

but it do. Wait, when is the first pay-per-view on ESPN? September 20th against, oh, shit. All in, all out, all the time from the other, yeah. I just got used to Amazon Prime for AEW.

I still don't have this ESPN app for W. Oh, we've got to figure that out. Yeah. But now we'll have to be streaming. There'll be pissing out and pissing in on September 20th. And we got to record the next day after that because I'm getting teeth pulled that week. And I have a feeling some of these matches on these pay-per-views to be like pulling teeth. Well, we will note that.

I'm sure Jason will note that. there's still more clashing in Paris. There is. It's putty. Every little breeze seems to whisper Louise. So the main event and the reason why it was the main event was because they're doing the shocking conclusion. But boy, if I'd have had my druthers, I'd have dredder not gone on after Sina and

Logan Paul just because the crowd was so fucking tired from jumping. up and screaming. They still managed to sing and chant more, but it was not to the level of the scene of business. A four-way for the other world title between Jay Uso, L.A. Knight, C.M. Punk, and Seth Franklin Rollins. And boy, this was a big building for old Jay Uso's entrance,

wasn't it. And the fans needed no encouragement to wave and sing and yeat. God damn. Can you imagine what if those people were jumping and waving and eating and doing all that stuff, all night, they were sweating, sweating, as Chris Candido would say, they probably stunk like a man eating for Monday cheese in a septic tank of a slaughterhouse by the time they got out of there. It didn't used to be that you had to blow yourself up to be a member of the audience. Imagine how over Bruno would have been if he had come out dancing in the crowd. Holy shit, yeah, they'd have had to give the fans' oxygen. They'd have been so blown up.

Anyway, this was also the first CM punk match in France. Now, that would be moderately surprising, maybe not as surprising as seen it, but still, two of the biggest stars of the modern era, first time they've been to France. How come France kept getting fucked around. Vince hates France.

They gave us the fry. They gave us the fry. The least that we could do is give them our wrestling champions. Vince hates fries. Well, apparently Vince has changed his opinions about a number of things since I knew him. So I, you know what, maybe that's the thing. Maybe he doesn't want anybody to sue. He's trying to arbitrate, doesn't want to go to discovery because she's

got footage of him eating French fries. And a big old cheeseburger. I don't know about that, but let's go to yet another four-way match. He used to look at me when I would be dipping my big old double-bredded chicken fingers in a big old cup of ranch dressing. He would look at me like I was the one pooping on somebody's head. How the worm has turned. So anyway, Braun Breaker and Braun Breaker?

Braun Breaker? Bronbreaker? Brown Breaker Brunce one of my toys Bronbrinker Bronbrinker and Bronson and Red Hey Ben

I got a shit on your head Yes I'm going to shit on your head Bronson Red All right back to Bronson Red and Bronzen Red and Bronzen Red In a match But they weren't in this match They got

Yes no no I'm trying to tell you I was clear in my throat She tickled me. Bronringer and Brigger and Brigger and Bronson Red have been booted out of the arena. It's what's happened. They're not there anymore. And Paul is in the hospital from getting choked out. By Roman reigns in the first match.

That's what the announcers are saying. So Seth is, he's all by his lonesome. And he's one heel against three baby faces. That might make you sympathy. sometimes, but the baby faces, they're kind of mad at each other too, and that will come out, you know, through the course of the match. So, yeah, no matter how good everybody is or isn't in the match,

and most of the people in the match are very good, it's a four-way. And I'm saying it's just the laziest most repetitive shit. I'm not saying the guys are being lazy. I'm saying the creative team, the bookers are lazy. Because they just do them. And you can't tell a story throughout this thing that's uninterrupted. You can tell a story between two people and it comes out at the end or whatever, but guys just have to disappear for long stretches of time

while other guys get their shit in. It's unnatural. It interrupts the flow of an athletic contest. And you see it so often. This was a better one. Some really stink. and most are just blah. But I mean, I can give you a description.

Everybody did everything at some point. They hit all their shit. They did everything they were supposed to. It's just it's a four-way. And finally, they had wiped out Punk when he took a bump off the apron onto a table that cracked, but it didn't break. But then L.A. Knight tried to do an elbow drop on Seth

off the top rope on the announced desk and Seth moved and L.A. Knight went through the desk. And then Seth and Uso went back and forth forever and Seth had him, but punk came back in then and made the save. And then punk hit to go to sleep on Uso and covered him, but Seth stomped punk and got a two count. That was a nice false finish.

But then Seth stomped L.A. Knight and Uso on the floor to keep them down a little while longer. Well, he got a chair, brought it in a ring, set it up, put Punk's head in through the chair. Brian, I, even if you're dazed, if like a hand grenade goes off next to your head, wouldn't you be able to pull your head out of a fucking chair? Yeah, and you know, the whole time I'm thinking,

I just saw a clip of these two guys, Rollins and Punk, going over their WrestleMania match on Unreal. they thought all this was a good idea. They talked all this through and thought, yeah, this is the way we should go. Yeah, yeah, that's another thing. Seeing him talking about it kind of shits all over the post-toastys. But anyway, he goes for the stomp on the chair, but punk moves, says stomp the chair, punk hit a go-to-sleep, went for the second go-to-sleep, had him up,

and a black ninja came into the ring, a hoodie, and all wrapped up and hit punk into balls right in front of the referee because it's no disqualification. And then took the hood off and it was Becky Lynch. It was Becky. That no good Jezebel. And then Seth hit the stomp cover one, two, three. Now there were some good things about this, but again, here is you can't do shit like that in front of the referee and expect to get heat on the talent and make the point you're trying to make

because the first thing that the fan does, even subliminally, is sit there and look, well, that fucking referee ain't doing a goddamn thing. Or if they say, well, the referee can't do anything because there's no DQ, then it's the promotions fault. That's why this was not done until the modern age of wrestling were. Then it became immaterial whether you had any heat or sold any tickets because they're just going to pay you from the network. But if you want to do this right, even if it's no DQ, when there's interference to that level that decides the match in favor of the heel over the baby face, distract the referee in a meaningful and credible way.

You don't have to bump him and he'd be down for seven minutes. Don't let him fucking see it. But now that I've said that, this is brilliant with him and Becky. and we'll get to what they did on raw in just a moment, but I've said this before, and a lot of the fans, maybe they still don't get it. Yes, they've had some women's main events in the WWE,

and a few of them deserved it, and other ones were just there because they didn't want people to be mad at them for not being fair. But for the majority, of the women, the fans would see it as an insult, and probably some of these women would too, if instead of being a woman wrestler on the middle of the card, even in the women's title match, if you're a part of the package with one of the main event guys, then you're guaranteed to be figured into the main event of WrestleMania or the main event of two nights, one of the main

events of WrestleMania, or a main event of two-night summer slam, or main event of the Royal Rumble,

or whatever, if you're a package with a main event guy, and that would not only be preferable,

but also would extend your career if you can be in bigger matches and take fewer bumps, and you're still

a featured part of the fucking program, an even bigger featured part of the program rather than just

wrestling on the middle. So I love the pairing and I wouldn't, my feelings wouldn't be hurt if they would save Heyman's appearances for Braun and Reed and let Becky for the most part come out with Seth.

And we've established that Becky can take better bumps than Paul. So I'm just saying I like that the pairing, but it was, was kind of just a, just a cheap way to get out of it fucking finish. Yeah, and I'll save a lot of my thoughts about the intergender feud, as it looks like it will be for when we talk about Raw.

Obviously, it was her as soon as she got in a ring. It was clear that it wasn't a guy, and it didn't take too long to figure out, oh, that's clearly Becky Lynch. Well, yeah, she's 110 pounds. Do you think in this day? day and age, and with there being so many wrestling couples, especially in this company, but it's everywhere. It's all over. It's in the Indies. It's in AEW. It's here. I don't know about what goes on in New Japan. But do you think it's smart to acknowledge it, lean into it,

to use it? If everyone knows these two are a couple. If when they're not on wrestling, they're on red carpets together, we saw them at the Kentucky Derby together on TV. You know what I mean? If it's a thing that's real and they're not hiding it, is it a smart thing to lean into it? Yes. I mean, you know, part of the reason why this works is because everybody knows that they're really together. They've already been together. Now, that's not to say that they couldn't have done this same thing if they weren't really a real life couple.

They could have done this same thing on television. and I think the two of them together because they can talk and they got chemistry, whatever, that would work whether they were a real couple or not, but it adds a lot to this that everybody has already known that they were together. Forever, together.

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notably yelled very loudly right into the camera, right into the mic. Well, not into the mic, but the mic, they miced it up pretty good so you can get it. I hate you. I hate your whole family. So they were bringing the family aspect into this. And that continued on Raw, and coincidentally enough,

it's the only thing we watched from WWRWA this week. Well, because we wanted to keep a positive outlook. We wanted to be upbeat. This was the greatest thing that I've seen in a week or two on wrestling television. This was the best interview segment in months. This was, they're going to make money with this thing. This is setting up for, I don't know what premium. live event that it might all culminate in or whatever,

but this is a big time fucking deal. Because it works and people know it's real and they want to see the women fight and the whole nine yards. This is the way to have a personal issue and to use, not intergender, but mixed tag team matches to draw money instead of just to take up space on the card. Punk was there. They're still in Paris.

They'll never leave Paris. They'll always have Paris. There's a lot of people there. When you saw Punk come out and you saw the size of the stage, it's like, Jesus Christ. Yeah. And again, punk comes out. It's the night after he's got screwed. You know, the title, Becky, hit him into nuts, whatever, and he's pissed off.

And he calls Seth Rollins out. I want to see, I want to talk man to man. and Seth's music hits and the people are going crazy and they're whoa and it's Becky. Becky comes out dressed as Seth Rollins and they woed anyway. And this, both of these, I was about to say both these guys, both of these people, actually one person and a woman, they believed what they were saying.

It was natural. They were having an argument. Punk didn't want to do that. I'm not going to do this with you. What is this? I know what you're trying to pull here. He didn't want to be sniping with the guy's wife that he hates. But the guy's wife is just eating him up verbally.

You know, I'm pissed that you lie about my husband, the father of my child, and blah, blah, blah. punk's like your husband is a coward but both of them had passion and the fans were into it and they were listening they were reacting to what was being said they weren't chanting for people and amusing themselves or fake booing over the heel because that's the cool thing to do the Becky was getting heat with these people because she was doing a great and she was losing it. I started a revolution. And the fans are like,

shut the fuck up. And they're still trying to bleep the fucks. This is Netflix. We're getting fuck bleeped, but over on TBS, they just say fuck 40 times. And, you know, so anyway, it was a great confrontation. When she got finished,

punk fired back at her. The fans were with him. and he lowered the boom on her. He's hiding behind him through her. He's a coward. He's hiding behind his wife. And the only thing you did wrong was you got bad taste

and you married a bum. And he said with me and him, it will never be over. And then Seth walks out in the entranceway with no music. The fan still woe, right? And I've been looking for you all night. Punk, come here and say it to my face.

And punk tries to get out of the ring to go and Becky's blocking him off. And punk finally gets around Becky, but he sees that Seth has turned and walked out. And as punk gets her head turned back around, Becky slapped him about 174 times. At first she slapped him in the face hard, then she slapped him a couple of lighter ones,

then she paint brushed him like I did to Santino Morella. then she hammered on his chest, then she headbutted his sternum bone. She was trying to get him to hit her. And the great thing about this was instead of being that goofy, phony, oh, Cody's got the belt and a chance to level the guy that's fucked him around, but he's too moral to do it and he throws it down. You could see from Punk's face that he was thinking, I'm going to hit this fucking bitch.

Oh, God damn it, there's witnesses. he wanted to he would have if they'd have been alone that just that on his face and by his reaction saved him from being a goddamn pussy and as he turns to leave he says I'm going to make Seth regret cashing in on me and you're going to regret putting your hands on me and the people are like whoa and he turns around to leave and she taunts him all the way out on the microphone. Get out of here. Go on. Get out. You're nothing.

What an annoying bitch. I mean, it was like every domestic argument that any guy has ever had. You wanted him to turn around and just choke the fucking life out of her. And shut her the fuck up.

And that is exactly what he can't do because he's a guy. If only he had a wife that knew how to wrestle that could come in there and yank a knot and Becky Lynch's tail while he was beating up Seth Rollins.

Well, that would be swell. This is perfect. This is when they swerve everyone and reveal that he's married that Nia Jacks. Hey, no, God, God, oh, come on now. But no, this is perfect. This is money. This is the best promo second.

segment's been on TV and forever. And they can make this the main event of WrestleMania if they want to. Because instead of four ways and goofiness and fucking furniture and stupid shit, we get a guy

and his wife mad at a guy and his wife. That's all you need. You know, I was prepared to not like any of this because I haven't been a fan of the CM Punk Rollins stuff in a while. I've said it before. I think Rollins is almost a weak link in this whole Heyman, Braun and Bronson thing.

They've kind of excelled when Rollins isn't there. However, you know, just when I was prepared to say enough of this, you know, this certainly isn't Punk and Drew, the Becky thing. And at the pay-per-view, I wasn't really into it. But the- It was a rotten finish. The idea of putting them together, okay, but it was just a rotten and finish the paper. You know, they tease the AJ thing as soon as Rollins yells out about, you know,

I hate your whole family. Because who else could that be? Unless, you know, all of a sudden, it's a cousin junior. I never told anyone about him. Poor Larry didn't do anything to anybody. So they teased the whole thing there. But Monday night, it came together. And at the same time, I've been sick of Becky Lynch.

And part of it may be that she was in that feudal, Lyra Valkyria, that just didn't do it. Is anyone clamoring for Lyra right now? You don't hear anything. So I haven't really, and Becky's match with Nikki Bella was a fucking atrocious spectacle. However, she won me over, not like, not even just what you said, just the nagging and the getting on him and especially when he was leaving and his face. But when punk started telling her off, she had a facial expression. I can't even explain it. but it was the most real looking,

bitchy, angry, yet still trying to keep control. It was an incredible look that she was giving him, and she wasn't talking, and I was just blown away by this thing. Now they have to deliver. You know, for a while, fans have been clamoring for AJ Lee to return. I don't know if they'll call her AJ Lee. I don't know what they'll call her exactly.

Maybe they will. Well, wasn't that her name the last time she was? she was on his program. But if you were bringing her in as the wife of someone. What is it, Becky, Becky Rollins? Well, he's not even Rollins, but I get your point. Well, this isn't that even, even better then. Let's just call him frickin' frack.

I don't care, just book the match. You know, this is like world class-esque, the good of world class. Like 83 Jimmy Garvin with valets-esque, like you believe it. You can get into it. It's not everything silly, but AJ Lee has to return and kick some ass. She can't come out skipping. That's my only other thought. That was her whole thing like skipping that.

She needs to come out there looking for blood. This woman's gone. I mean, you know, even if she was advised otherwise by anybody else, her husband is the mastermind behind this type of thing. I would think that they will have the proper responses. You had an interesting thought. You know, I said it before. I think Haman and the other guys have excelled

Rollins isn't there. Do you think they should use this as a chance to separate them? You know, not like in an obvious way, but Heyman's, I guess, hurt. I don't know. We don't really have a medical update on Hayman after he got choked out, but if he has Becky, unless Becky's going to be managed by Hayman too, but it seems like that's unnecessary. Well, see, that's the thing. They don't need to separate, but does the chairman of board of Exxon pump the gas too?

Does Paul have to be everywhere? Even if he's the oracle behind the group or whatever, Becky is with Seth. Paul is with the bronze. Occasionally they have a group picture taken. I mean, there's, you don't see Paul or you don't need to see Paul out there two or three times a night. What happens when Bronson Reed has a match? Bronner has a match and Seth Rollins has a match. Poor Paul have a stroke.

You can't overwork a man in his condition. Let him come out with the bronze to get them over as main event guys. He's got an alliance with Seth, but Becky can be Seth's dedicated corner person, and she doesn't have to come out with the bronze. But it just, it's a great package. Again, that's a way to take a girl that can talk that is still, she's been wrestling a while.

She might not want to do this a lot longer. She's very slightly built. But God damn, she can get some fucking heat. That's a main event package. It's more important than her being one of the 30 girl wrestlers when she can be one of one doing what she's doing. I thank God she laid in those slaps, because if she hadn't, it wouldn't have worked.

Oh, yeah. And that's the thing is that she's, it was instead of trying to be a girl wrestler working each individual hard slap, it was like she's a girl that's gone off and now I'm gonna fucking hit you like that type of thing. Like that type of thing.

There you go. Like that type of thing. That was WWRWA seemingly setting up the Rollins and family versus punk and family series of matches. We'll see what happens. But Jim, yes. We have a few more things to talk about here today, and one of them is a topic that we've heard from some listeners about. I've mentioned them a little bit, I think in passing, or you did, when talking about retro figures.

But it's becoming a little bit of a story, Power Town, which was the figure line launched by the former executives, I believe, from Remko in the 80s. Yes. along with Greg Gagne of AWA fame, Minnesota fame in the 80s, 70s, and Magnum TA, legendary Mid-Atlantic Star of the 80s, and they were starting up a figure line. I heard about it because I heard from several people who were approached by them, who actually asked me what I thought of the contract and asked me what I thought of the deals. and at the same time, or maybe even before then, you had heard of them.

Yeah, I did, Lance. Go ahead. But the story now is that here we are a few years down the line. They put out a series of figures, a few additional ones after that, announced a deal with TNA, announced a series of Remco, 1980s Remco-ish figures, announced the second wave of their original line, took pre-orders on everything, and there has been no communication,

no figures have arrived, dates where figures were promised to arrive by or shipped by, have come and gone, as apparently has communication with the executives of this company. There have been claims by Greg Gagne in an interview, apparently, that tariffs are the blame, but his explanation doesn't really account for how tariffs work or who owes what money where.

But there have been a lot of excuses. Or also what happened over the last two years before the tariffs came up. But there's a lot of people who have paid money for figures of classic wrestling stars and TNA stars who now think they may not get them. What are your thoughts on this whole thing from the best, from your vantage point and the knowledge you have of any of this? Well, I'm not trying to bury Greg, but he's doing a good enough job of that himself. and I'm a little cranky with him for almost costing some friends of mine some money. So I will give the details as best as I know I'm here. I have just heard recently what's been going on with all of these people upset that they've not gotten their figures.

They can't get their money back. They've apparently for a year, 18 months, we're not saying that nobody's gotten any figures from these people, but we're saying apparently most of them haven't. there are threads of discussion on the internet. Are we ever going to get our pre-orders? We ever going to get our money back? What are these people saying? They're making fun of the excuses that Greg has given,

which also included that, well, we couldn't fill the pre-orders or couldn't fill some of these orders because a lot of collectors went online and bought them all up and now they're reselling them on eBay for up to $2,500. Yeah, what? Yeah, on several levels. And so a lot of the customers are mad. And I've also heard that the boys ain't got no money.

And I don't want to group Magnum in and this. I think Magnum got involved in all goodwill. And I think that he's possibly one that might be, you know, wiping shit off his face that he didn't deserve. But they just, it. I will tell you again that regardless of all of the uproar from the fans and not getting the figures and whatever, that we knew, and I'd been talking to you, that this was not going to end well just because of the way that it started and it didn't add up from the beginning. And a lot of the folks know that, well, everybody knows if you list this program,

that I've done Midnight Express figures, Bobby Eaton, Dennis Condry, Stan Lane, as well as mine over the last couple years on my website. And at the first, the Midnight Four Pack, the big collector's edition, came out in September of 2023. Also at the time said that the last thing that Bobby Eaton signed before he died was the contract with Figures Toy Company

to get these things in production. over the period of about a month or six weeks before that, that's when Greg Gagne had gotten involved. Because, again, I'm sitting here at the house one day, mine of my own business, Greg Ganya calls. And he starts pitching me that, oh, this is going to be the greatest thing. I've gotten together with one of the guys from Remcoe back in the 80s where we invented the wrestling figure business and we're going to do figures.

Oh, that's nice, Greg. And he starts giving me a sales pitch about, well, he wants to sign me up. And he knows that, oh, these things, it's going to be great. They're going to be in stores. The quality of the thing is going to be off the charts. You know, we've already got a hundred and something guys signed up or their families if they're gone. Now, quite literally, they signed up like entire families of people. Yes, well, because the Rujos are a tight-knit family.

So to get like Jacques Rougeau, they had to sign up like eight members of the Rougeau family all the way to Uncle Eddie Auger, who was a name in Montreal in the 50s. The Eddie Auger figure has not been, as we know, produced as of yet. Yeah, I don't know if we're going to see that one. But anyway, he was trying to tell me, oh, this is going to be great. And I tried to explain to him with Greg, I've already been doing my own figures. Well, this will be bigger. No, it won't be bigger because I'm not going to do it.

Because here's the thing. I do my own figures. I have a relationship with, and figures toy company. I've dealt with Steve Sandberg as the owner. He's still the owner. He's retired. He's my age at this point. But I'd been dealing with him since the 90s when I worked in the office in Titans.

So I knew him and knew that he was a guy that wasn't going to tell me a bunch of shit, blah, blah, blah. Had a contract. And I explained to Greg, I've got a contract with figures. toy company they produced my figures we're working on some things now so i'd you know just loved i wasn't shitting all over his thing i was trying to be nice i knew it wasn't going to work and i wasn't really concerned about it because it didn't anything do with me but that's what he said well what about your boys the middette express i said well i'm working on a thing right now where

we're putting this into production with bobby dennis stan and myself and oh well that's what he said we've already got Stan Lane signed up. I said, what? He said, oh, yeah, we saw, because I guess Magnum was at one of the Charlotte fan fest, and Stan had come down, and he said, oh, yeah, we got Stan signed up, and we're going to do the fabulous ones. I said, wait a minute, you've got Stan signed up, but you're going to do the fabulous way.

I said, that's like signing up Keith Richards and doing an expensive wino set instead of the Rolling Stones, what we were going to do the midnight with Eaton and Condry. All right. Well, now I'm panicking because I'm thinking, oh, my God, some way or another, they have conned staying in assigning something, and it's going to be held, try to get this all straightened out. And that's when I explained to him, I said, Greg, I said, I understand, again, for a lot of these guys that don't have a platform

or for the families who are looking for extra income but wouldn't have the, wherewithal to jump both feet into this thing. Yes, you'll be doing the boys of service. But with me in the midnight, because we are dealing directly with the manufacturer selling it on my platform, the talent will get the money without involving middlemen. So we will come out specifically us better than if we do your deal. I'm not poo-pooing it for everybody else, right?

Yeah. And if I could just jump in, that is one of the things that separates you. from just about everyone else. A lot of people will get a modern figure or a retro figure, whatever you want to call it made. They're just someone who's signed up and they're going to get a figure and hopefully a royalty off the sales of that figure. You're actually a partner in the figure.

That's the difference. You are the toy company, for lack of a better term, for your own figures. Well, and that's what I was, because I was trying to explain to Greg that I know that if a product is manufactured, you've got to sell it for more than the manufacturing costs, but also with what he was describing the rest of the process, the stores or the outlets, or who's selling them, or how they're being distributed,

all the rest of those people are not going to contribute their time for the love of the game. and my thought was to make something that would be profitable on a smaller scale, but still large enough for the Middutt Express, for the actual talent that was involved to do something instead of, and you've heard this same thing with Powertown, Riggie Morton and his son, and both said, we ain't got a goddamn dime.

We're trying to find wrestlers that have made any money off of this deal. yet. So anyway, I said, well, Greg, I'll have to get back to you, you know, blah, blah, blah, whatever. I mean, I call Stan. I'm like, Stan, did you sign something, a contract for action figures with Greg gone you? He's like, no.

I said, oh, Jesus Christ. He had seen, I think he was Magnum. He'd seen Magnum and Magnum, so, oh, we're going to do. Well, he basically said, send me the paperwork or send me something I can look at. that. That was how Greg, and the thing was, it wasn't even like he had led them on, like, oh, yeah, I'll do this for sure, and I'll send me something to look at. And Greg is telling me that one of my friends that he has to know I'm going to speak to is signed up when he ain't signed up. So I said, as a matter of fact, I said, did they send you the contract yet? And he said,

no, I said, well, tell him to send it to you and then send it to me. So they did. He did, they did, and he did. And I looked at it. And just from the, without knowing the cost of each individual figure or the retail price point or the manner of distribution, just from the royalty rate in this contract from this company that, to my knowledge, it didn't even exist yet or had just been formed, they would have had to sell two million dollars worth of fucking fabulous ones figures for stan lane to make 50 grand and i said so no so point being this was the exact same time july of 2021 that all this is

going on so obviously the midnight express did not sign up with power town we went through with the deal that we did with figures toy company the midnight express four Pack collector's set with the certificate of authenticity and the autographed photo of three of us, obviously, and the collector's book went on sale two years later in September of 2023. And by the way, folks, we still have about 300 of those left. I'm not going to lie to you. And I wouldn't be surprised if they're discounted for Christmas at Jim cornet.com coming up the first week of October.

But the point is that Stan Lane and each member, each entity of the Midnight Express, including Bobby's family, have already made the better part of that 50 grand that Stan would have made if they sold $2 million worth of fabulous ones, dolls. And we didn't sell $2 million worth of Midnight Express yet. but that was a big benefit to the condories Dennis and Teresa for Christmas that last two years for Stan and Maria and Bobby's kids who had just had several children of their own

over the past few years. That was a big help to them and continues to be because every time we sell a set, they get a fucking check. But we've already had a, and the tag team sets went on sale the following. what was it, February of

2024. We still got a few hundred of those too, but what is, everything's in the black. Every action figure set of the Midnight Express that has been ordered, has been delivered. People have had this shit in their hands for two

years now, some of it. But yet PowerTown, they released their first series of six people, which was, I think, Luthez, whoever else, they look great, but many people didn't get those. And...

Well, I think people got those, but the problem was, from what I understand. Oh, they didn't get the second series. The second series. And part of the first series was defective because the legs would fall off. Right. There's a rumor going around that they made 10,000 figures for the first series, and part of the reason was they made 5,000 that were defective. So I hate the laugh, but they had to make a second round of...

It's our money. I hate the laugh. It's a second round of five. thousand figures they had to make if that is indeed true well and then here's the thing yes that we i've said this on the air there's a two year lead time from to getting figures from china and with the pandemic that slowed things down a little more but i even had the toy company asked me one time because i think we talked about it at the time it was four or five years ago maybe longer that one of the boats was late and i couldn't make my original on sale date that i'd

announced. I remember that. The toy company said, well, you can take pre-orders. I said, no. I'll take pre-orders for something that is 200 miles away from me. I'm not taking pre-orders for something coming from China that's on a boat in the ocean. I don't know and I can't control. I'm not going to hold on to people's money. Yeah, see, again, that's one of the things that separates you from everyone else. You're the talent. You're also the store. And you sell the inventory you have. you don't take a bunch of pre-orders and then order as many pre-orders as you have, which seemed to be the Power Town plan at one point. Well, I heard at the start of this thing that they were underfunded,

that they couldn't, they didn't have the money to make whatever they had originally planned to make. That's another thing is, I'm sorry, but I knew exactly what all these things were going to cost before I committed to it. And I knew that I had the money to purchase. everything in total before I put anything on sale. And then, and yes, there's been times where people waited a couple months to get their figures only because we had 1,800 fucking orders, and I was signing each one of them to order. So what do you want?

You know, an egg in your beer, whatever. But this has become just a big mess. And when you think about it, again, that's why I said it wasn't going to work from the start, because when they're signing up 200 individual wrestling personalities, if they're doing figures, six different figures in each set, even if everything was coming through, everybody was getting their figures on time, everybody's money was taken care of,

how long is it going to be before number 186 gets his figure? A lot of these people ain't going to live that long. under the best of circumstances. So, you know, I'm sorry that things seem to be falling apart, but there's a lot of people mad, and it seemed like it could be avoidable because I think they just went into this grander plans thinking that they were a little big for their britches and that there was going to be not only more demand possibly for some of these people,

I don't know that Eddie Auger is going to sell a ton of figures. Yes, but also... That's part of the issue right there, yeah. That, you know, if they did, if they did indeed run into problems with getting the product from China, it's been a business for four fucking years

and not a lot of product has come through yet. And the math don't add up that if you'd taken people's money at retail, you can't pay whole stuff. sale plus tariffs? Help me. It doesn't add up. I saw recently an online post from a wrestling figure message board where

I believe Sean Ing of KWK, we've talked about his figures in the past. He did the Mantar figure. He volunteered to go. He's over there. I'll go to the factory. You want me to help you guys out and look around? Never heard back. At the same time,

apparently PowerTown also signed up. When you signed the contract of PowerTown, there were also T-shirts. So they have the rights to use the likeness of various wrestling stars. Oh, yeah, this was the whole scope of the thing. He's talking about trading cards, T-shirts, all kind of merchandise that we haven't even thought of yet. Right. And Greg Gagne also said in this interview that they're going to be at Walmart and Target, which is absolutely not happening. But the T-shirts-

The word Target is being used about Greg Ganya. But the T-shirts they had made up apparently now have shown up on, again, it's not my world so I may get this wrong, some sort of foreign eBay sort of site where all of a sudden there are these discounted wrestling t-shirts that seemingly were in a factory that wasn't paid so they just unloaded them to some website. Well, that's, as a matter of fact, one of the message boards that I was looking at from a link on another one said that that's a thing that not just in wrestling, but every once in a while when one of these toy manufacturers can't pay for.

for the stuff, it goes unclaimed, they ship it to some clearance place, and they just sell it. And nobody gets any royalties. And nobody gets, you know, that's, that's the thing is, you know,

Ricky Morton will tell a tall tale. So I would think if he'd gotten $100 from this, this fucking setup, he would have said it was $10,000, and he said, I ain't got a goddamn dime. Yeah, and when you think of that first series,

who got a royalty, Luthes Vern Gagne who else was in the bruiser Brody Stan Hanson now he's alive yeah

Kerry von Eric and Magnum TA and Magnum TA who's a partner I know I think Magnum did halfway okay because one of the guys in the Carolina's got a bunch of figures ahead of time

and paid him to sign him so he he did all right I have a box of Magnum T's posters from the 80s from the Kiteser collection, a box of them that I can't use. I don't need shirtless Magnum TA posters anywhere in my house. But if there's a market, if anyone's booking Magnum for an autograph show and you want to buy a giant box. Was that to one of him next to the motorcycle?

I think maybe that, yeah. I may have taken that picture. Well, I'll send you a poster. Maybe you could sign it. They had me, there was nobody, it's all in the Kiteser files in Mid-South and 84. they needed color pictures and better pictures of the talent and they didn't have, you know, it was Alice Marie Nelson was in Houston, but for some reason they said, so I brought my camera to Oklahoma City where there was light in the locker room one day

and took Hacksaw Duggan holding the chair. And then I did some outdoor stuff in Alexandria with Magnum and a motorcycle and Terry Taylor, the Fantastics, all that shit. Yeah, I just couldn't be credited. I don't need any of those photos where they're credit. or not on my walls here, but maybe someone would. But we'll stay on top of this story, see what we could find out, because in one way or another, either it's going to be bankruptcy, refunds,

or figures somehow show up. I don't know which one of those is more likely at this moment, but Jim. And that's, that's like, so one more thing I'd like, just to the guys, before you sign anything, because I've had, I'm not going to mention any names, don't want to embarrass anybody, but I've had a guy chasing me in the Midnight Express for the past four or five years to sign up for his video game that he's producing.

And again, I'm not a video game expert, but I know a for the love of the game from some talented amateurs type of setup that has no platform, it can't be sold in a widespread basis, and is one of those throwback things because it's easier to do that shit cheap, that it is to do the new stuff. And the point I make it is, guys,

if somebody's going to give you a check for $2,500, then the normal response from somebody to wrestling business, oh, give me the $2,500. But then you've tied yourself up and your rights up in some kind of contract for negligible money. You don't know whether you're ever going to get royalties. you know, that's an advance against royalties, that may be the payment you get.

Where is this thing going to be sold? What's the price point? Why is a large number of people going to be interested enough to pay for this item enough that I will get a significant amount of money in royalties? Is it worth tied up your rights for something? That's what you need to ask yourself.

And if you're not well-versed in how things sell or what the market is these days for something, then ask somebody who is before you just say, I'll take the fucking check. And PowerTown, if you want people to have faith in you or trust you or give you more time, say something. And don't send Greg Gagne out there to be your mouthpiece. Greg's not doing them any favors.

He doesn't do anyone. He thinks it's still 40 years ago and you can just say shit and nobody checks up on it. Well, Jim, we'll see what happens with these figures, but a lot of people, at this very present moment are out, a lot of money. Almost a class of people, when I think about it, they may want to sue. Boy, I'll tell you, and you know what happens when a class of people get together, and say they got a bitch, they got a gripe, they got a problem, they got a grievance, they find somebody with no class to fight this. fight for him and that's this man. Call Stephen P. New

a mud show or two those are the rest. Yes, ladies gentlemen. Let me just coming out of this song, let me just clarify. He has class. He does have class. He's like an out-of-work school teacher. He has no class.

He's going to get down there and he's going to bite nuts and he's going to poke eyeballs and he's going to fight in the triches. he's going to get down in those trenches and he's going to get mud on himself. You do not want a guy who fights fair at a court of law. You want a guy who gets even. And that's the man, the myth, the legend. Stephen P.new, new law office.com, 87750, Steve,

but it ought to be 87750, rip your guts out. because that's the kind of down and dirty activity. Stephen P. New is going to be engaged in to fight for your rights. He's not going to throw that title belt down and say, no, I'm too good for that. He's going to shove that title belt up the ass of the person who is wrongfully terminated or damaged you in some kind of way. That's right.

Stephen P. New. He's a filthy, dirty street fighter. With no morals, he will do anything to a human being. he's morally bankrupt and he's a thoroughly dangerous man. Don't let him out on the streets unaccompanied. He's going to bite somebody's jugular vein out. He'll come to Minnesota if he has to. 87750 Steve, get even with Stephen New Law Office.com.

Jim. You know where 877's the area code for, don't you? No, where's that? Ask Whippensville. All right, I'll have to make sure I mark that down. But Jim, before we get out of him, here. Why don't we wrap it up with some guest to program here this week? Oh, you

did? Go ahead and tickle my taint and flick my nipples at the same time. You get me so excited. Metaphorically speaking, of course. Oh, that's right. You can bring some of that metaphor in, too, and smear it all over my body. We're going to start with a couple of

new wrinkles, and then we'll get to the traditional version of the game here. Ooh, yeah, put it in all the wrinkles, too. Let's try to keep this appropriate for all of our many child listeners. Jim, I have a program here. Child listeners are those who are just childlike. Jim, the challenge here is I'm only going to give you one match. Oh, God damn. Come on now. Let me explain. Guess the program, ladies and gentlemen, is where I go through my collection, things in my collection, things I've acquired, things I'm ready to file away. Things you've stolen. I have not stolen

anything, but what we do is we steal your time with this silly game, and of course, Jim will guess, based on the card, the town, the location, the arena, the time, the price of the program. And here, this program only has one match.

This program has one match. Okay, so you're not going to make it a habit, like, I just get one match. This is just an individual thing here. Well, I wasn't going to use it because there's only one match listed. There were other matches on the card, I have the lineup here, but in the program it only lists one,

and then I started thinking about it, could I get it based on just the one match? And then I really started thinking, you know, I wonder if Jim could. Let me give it to you. Okay. For the World Heavyweight Crown, sanctioned by the National Wrestling Alliance,

Sam Mushnick President, world champion Jack Briscoe, Blackwell, Oklahoma versus Greg Valentine, Challenger Seattle, Washington Well, we know that it would be between 1973 and 1975 or Briscoe wouldn't be champion and where would Greg Valentine

have been working between 1973 and 1975 and 73 in 73 in 73 in 73 In 73, he was probably still Johnny Fargo in the Buffalo territory, or maybe just have finished being that.

And Sam Muchnick being president, he didn't, was it 75 that Fritz took over? You know what? Is this the Olympic auditorium in Los Angeles in 1974? Jim, it's the Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California. Friday, April 25th, 1975. God damn it! But how was that?

That was very good. That's exactly what I thought you may be able to do, and you pulled it out. You see? You were worried. Nothing to worry about. And, of course, even if Sam did give up the presidency in 75, if I was correct about that, the convention wasn't until September. I remember

one of the after magazines covering a match between Briscoe and Valentine for the NWA title in Los Angeles. It probably was this match. And that flashed in front of my head. And also was that not

the place where Valentine first got a singles push as Greg Valentine that he would have been in line for a title match? I think you're right about that. It's also where I believe he helped cost them their TV, their English-speaking TV. This is a year before the territory would change in a lot of ways,

and Roddy Piper comes in, and the Guerrero family come in. Here's the rest of the card this night. S.D. Jones defeated Art Mahaluk. Mickey Doyle defeated Rex Arnold. Les Thornton defeated Reno Tufuli. For the America's tag team titles, the Hollywood blondes Jerry Brown and Buddy Roberts defeated Louis Toulay and Dennis Stamped by disqualification and Jack Briscoe defeated Greg Valentine. And Reno Tafuli was, before Afa and Sika became the Wild Samoans, there was a team called the Samoans,

which was Tio and Reno and later Tio and Tapu. And they were real Samoans. They also wrestled as the Manchurians, but they got, um, they, they got kind of overshadowed with Afa and Sika coming along a few years later. All righty, L.A. baby. We love L.A. That's a great song, Randy Newman. Jim, this next one, I'm going to give you the card minus one match.

There's one match that I think is a clear giveaway to where this is. Okay. So we're going to take that match out and see if that changes anything. The first event, Doug Summers versus Mike Pappas. Pappas. The second event, Gene Stevens versus Tom Andrews. The third event, we are going to skip. The fourth event, tag team match,

The Blue Yankee, and Rico Val-Man. Valentino versus Ron Starr and Kevin Sullivan. A title match I will not name, the championship I will not name. The champion Bob Sweetan versus Ken Lucas and the main event for the World Heavyweight Championship, Harley Race versus Colonel Buck Robly. Good Lord. All righty.

Let's figure this one out. Robly, this is not a, I don't think this is a Mid-South card. Well, it's earlier than Mid-South would be anyway, but Robly was more identified with Mid-South territory, Watts, booking for him, et cetera. But Robly also worked a lot in the Kansas City territory, in the central states. Bob Sweet-Anne, same thing.

he was noted for being a guy from the midsower, being a guy that worked the Mid-South and McGirk territories, but at the same time, he did some work in the central states. Kenny Lucas, this is, what makes me believe that this is an early card, early 70s, or mid-70s, maybe at the latest, is because Mike Pappas is still working. the flying Greek Mike Pappas. Doug Summers is in the opening match.

He's probably a rookie. Ron Starr and Kevin Sullivan is a team against the Blue Yankee, and I don't know who Rico Valentino is, but one would think that this is, again, when Kevin Sullivan was a young baby face, Tom Andrews, one of the interns, but he also was from the Kansas City territory. Everything's telling me that this is the Kansas City office,

if not Kansas City itself. With Harley defending against Robly, Harley would be, it would either be his first brief run or 77, so this is 1977 in Kansas City. The event, Memorial Hall, Kansas City, Kansas, Thursday, June 1st, 1978. Oh, I almost got it.

What was the third match? The third match that I thought was a giveaway. Joe Polarty versus Bulldog Bob Brown. See, there's certain guys, I can get you in a lot of the card, but if I say Bob Brown, you know where it is. Yeah. So we may have to do this every now that we drop out one match to see the real test.

Jim, this next card here. Do I have a date on it? I do. Do I have a location on it? I do. Okay. Jim, the card Miguel Perez and Haystack Calhoun versus Jerry Graham

and Eddie Graham, two out of three falls. Jim Haiti versus Luke Graham. All three of the grams involved. Sam Steamy. Boat versus Great Melenko, Michael Barone versus Steve Stanley, Arnold Scholland versus Golden Terror, and the final time limit match listed, Bobo Brazil versus Gene Kineski. Good night.

All righty. Um, what a card for one of these Willie Gilson. Towns up there. We are in the Northeast. We'll try to narrow it down here in a minute. Miguel Perez and Haystacks Calhoun as a team against the Grams. That's a hell of a... This may be a bigger town.

I was thinking it was one of the New Jersey's or the ag halls or whatever. And by the way, for the record, Haystack Calhoun, not Haystacks here in the program. Yeah, well, it depended on dinner. as to whether he was as big as a haystack or two. But when you've got Jerry, Eddie, and Luke Graham on the card, that indicates to me that it's got to be 1964, 65, off the top of my head, that it would be Luke's first run in the Northeast

and maybe Eddie's last one. Jim Haiti was a journeyman, gentleman Jim Haiti. Sam Steamboat was Ricky Steamboat's namesake. That is Professor Boris Malenko, I would think, that wrestled as Larry Simon because if this was still the late 50s or real early 60s, what would he still be? Otto von Krupp, Steve Stanley, the brother of Gene Stanley, the Stanley brothers. He was a major name in the 50s. Arnold Skolin tips it off that

that's why I'm thinking it's a Northeastern Spot Show because I think we talked about this last time we played guest to program. He was a preliminary guy at that time, but he may have just been starting, taking over, checking up to the box office running some of these towns.

So that's why he might be on the card. And Bobo Brazil, who was a big goddamn name in the Northeast, wrestling Gene Knesski, who had had a big run in the AWA in the Midwest in the 50s and would win the NWA title in 1966 from Thess, but this is in between those times. There's just so many of the mid-sized towns up there. I'm going to say somewhere in New Jersey in 1964. The date Friday, night.

November 27th, 1964, the island garden, West Hampstead, Long Island. West Hamstead, Long Island. Okay, I'm sorry, I said Jersey. It was a spot show on the island. There's a nice drawing here on the program of a turkey,

I guess, because it's Thanksgiving time, and there's a tree, an apple tree, and inside each apples, the picture of is Bill Watts, Bruno San Martino, Bobo, Brazil, Arnold Scholar, and Vern Gagne. A young Verganya. I don't know what that's doing here in a Cid. But here it is from Island Garden.

A arena that is gone now. Jim, this next one was a bit of a surprise for me. Let me ask you this one. The opening bout, the return prelim, Bobby Pico versus Terry Daniels. Dennis Stamp versus the Lawman. Nick Roberts versus Ted Heath. Good Lord. The semi-final girls match, Anne Casey versus Natasha, special referee, USA Women's Champion, Marie Laverne.

Natasha was the hatchet lady, and Natasha and Beverly Shade were at a women's tag team match in the Louisville Gardens one night. And because the girls only came in every once in a while, Bob Moody, the wacky DJ, who was the ring announcer, didn't know, anything about them. So when they got in the ring, he went up to Natasha. And he said, what's your hometown? She said, but fuck Egypt. You got the balls to say it? It's no, ma'am, from parts unknown, Natasha. Well, Jim, the main event, Ricky Romero versus Scandar-Akbar. Oggy-doggy, daddy. This is obviously West Texas. because the Dennis Stamp, even though Dennis Stamp was on the card we just, where was the card we just had that Dennis Stamp was on?

It was in Kansas City. There's too many other of the usual suspects here. Nick Roberts, Nicola Roberts, Baby Doll's father, would later on be the promoter in Amarillo and Lubbock. Ted Heath was a British fireplug of a guy that was one of the, the great practitioners of the, you know, the Matt wrestling, British world of sport type of stuff, but he has, he's been out of the business and retired for probably around 50 years. Don, the lawman Slatton, was the local promoter, bail bondsman and top baby face in, oh, God damn it.

What's the town of Abilene? Was it Abilene? or am I mixing up my Lubbock? No, it wasn't Lubbock. Slatton was, look him up, Google him, because now it's going to bother me. It was not Lubbock.

I'm pretty sure it was Abilene. Where was this Bayobon company? And Ricky Romero, obviously, the biggest baby faces in the West Texas territory, not named Funk, were the Romero family who were his sons were the young bloods,

including Jay. And Scandor, Akbar was most known as a manager in Mid-South especially, but this was when he was still a wrestler. And I've got to, I'm going to sit between Amarillo and Lubbock, I'm going to flip a coin and say Lubbock in 1975. And you were right about Don Slatton, Abilene. Abilene, Abilene, Prentice town I have seen.

This program, Jim, which I have a, Jim, which I have. shocked me, actually, just by how the territory had fallen. This is Amarillo, Texas, Thursday, May 14th, 1988. Oh, my God. 1981, okay, in that case, everybody's goddamn retired. What the fuck happened to Amarillo? The Funk's left.

Yeah, well, this is even after Mulligan and Murdoch, though. Yeah, it is. They bought it, what, 78? Was Ricky Romero running it? Might have been. So there you go. Akbar was coming over as a favor. Romero lived there.

Ted, he still lived there. Like, he wasn't wrestling anywhere else at that time. Nick Roberts lived there. Lawman Slatton lived there. Dennis Stamp lived there. Terry Daniels lived there. Roberto Pico probably popped in whenever he could get a peek. So, yeah, that boy, from a way, from a,

once mighty territory with those guys at that age at that time, that's surprising. All right, Jim, one final program here this week. The opening bout, it looks like a different bout was written in here. The opening bout is billed as being Tony Morelli versus Jack Britain, one fall 20-minute time limit, but written in is Trippy Pasqualee versus Lone Eagle. Well, Trippy Pasquale don't do no jobs, baby. A special event, wrestling dwarves. Little Beaver versus Tom Thumb, one fall 30-minute time limit. The semi-wind-up, its build is George Becker versus Cola Quiriani,

but crossed out as Cola's name and written in as Allie Bay, two out of three falls, 45 minute time limit and the main event Argentina Raqa versus Brother Frank Jairs two out of three falls one hour time limit.

Brother Frank Jair's was the father of Joe Jers who wrote the book whatever happened to Gorgeous George in 1973. It was one of the only modern publications actually sold in a bookstore that gave the inside of the business.

As soon as you said Tony Morelli and Jack Britain in the opening match, I flashed to Canada. Then you said, a little beaver against Tom Thumb. And I said, God damn it, did not Jack Britain have something to do with booking the midgets out of Montreal when they were based up there? and that would have been in the 50s and early 60s around the Sky Low Little Beaver era. George Becker spent the last fucking 20 years of his active career in the Carolinas as the Booker and one of the top baby faces and Johnny Weaver's tag team partner.

He was 60 years old. They were still using him on top. This was before the George Scott era that remodeled the Mid-Atlantic lineups. But if George Becker is wrestling Cola Quiriani, then that puts it in the early 1950s at latest, and Raqa and Jeras on top, cements that, and Quiriani, as we've talked about,

was one of the, he was an old-timer at this time, but he was one of the guys that advised the Johnston brothers, the wrestling promoters in Madison Square Garden and Quiriani was Raca was his guy so he was probably on this small show because Raca was booked as the big star to draw the

fucking house and Quiriani was on the card to travel with him and make sure everything worked out okay I don't know why Frank Jers was there at this time but Little Beaver French Canadian Jack Britain

Becker could have been anywhere at that point. This has to be early 50s at, I'm going to say 19, where is it? Why is Frank Jers in Canada, otherwise, 1953 in Quebec? Jim, the date, Friday, September 5th, 1952, The Oceanside Athletic Club, Oceanside California.

Son of a bitch. All right. Well, fuck Jack Britton then. He threw me off. Sensational Argentinian visits OAC. Razzle-Dazzle Rocca meets brother Frank. Wrestling dwarves return. Yeah, and you know what, Jers? He was in Southern California at that time period.

And this wasn't a big Olympic auditorium show, just one of the smaller clubs. Okay. Idolized by millions of Matt goers and video viewers, the amazing Argentina Rocka flies in for one of his whirlwind appearances at the Oceanside Athletic Club tonight, meeting Brother Frank Jair's

in a sizzling main event. Rocket Raca whose holds are designated to meet with the progress of the atomic age. What the fuck is that sentence all about? is in demand from coast to coast. He has attracted unsurpassed crowds in every arena in which he appears and has traveled thousands of miles of air

to fill important engagements. Raca's next stop may be Madison Square Garden or Chicago or Rio de Janeiro. He's probably the most widely traveled citizen of the world. So they're really building up Rocky here, big, by the way for Oceanside, the promoter, owner, Marie Middlecalfe, the manager, John Middletalph, the matchmaker, Johnny Doyle.

Okay, hold on here. I've just, because Jack Britton, I'm trying to figure that out. So here we go. What? Louis, Louis Geno Acocella was better known by his ring name of Gino Brito. remember Gino Brito, who was partners with Tony Parisi? Well, Brito was the son of wrestler Jack Britton.

So hold on, and I'm trying to figure out, well, and now he doesn't have much about Jack Britain in here. It's more about his son. But, yeah, Jack Britain, and they were French-Canadian, and I'm pretty sure that Jack Britain had something to do with promotion, later on in Quebec. There we say that he taught his son many valuable lessons. The most important one was stay away from Dino.

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