Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 422

Episode Date: December 13, 2025

This week on the Drive Thru, Jim talks about the passing of Steve Regal, Vince Russo's recent comments about him, Ric Flair's latest online feud, The Rock's Golden Globe nomination, Paramount's hostile takeover of WBD, Neon's injury, the return of Landon, Olivia Nuzzi & WWE, NY indie wrestlers on The People's Court in 1998, and much more! Plus Jim reviews the Netflix Diddy documentary series! Thanks to our episode sponsors: SHOPIFY:  Sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at shopify.com/cornette. AURA FRAMES:  Exclusive $35 off Carver Mat at https://on.auraframes.com/JCE  or use promo code JCE. RAYCON:  Raycon audio products are up to 20% off this holiday season. Go to buyraycon.com/JCEOPEN  to save on Raycon audio products sitewide. PRIZEPICKS: Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/JCE  and use code JCE to get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: [e-mail]  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Merch! https://arcadianvanguard.com/ Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

again, friends. And you are our friends. I'm screaming again. Welcome back to another edition of Jim Cornett's drive-thru. Bellowing. I'm your host, the great Brian Lass. We're going to have fun today. The random conversation and topics continues on to the drive-thru here this week. No reviews. It's a wonderful day with this man, the leader of the cult of Cornett, Mr. Jim Cornett. Oh, good Lord. You basically, what happened there? is you just screwed it up completely about three seconds in, and rather than admitting it and starting again, you decided to do a take on it,

and it sounded like a musak version of a drunk doing a piano solo from a Billy Joel album. Well, first of all, that's my sound, and I don't really think you are in any position to criticize that specific sound, which hasn't taken off yet, but it's early in the day. It's early in the same. century.

And I, you know, millennia. I played everything I intended to. I played everything the way I intended to. Well, in that case, it could be the microphone. That's it, that's an admission then that should be admissible in court. You just admitted that you did everything you intended to do. I rest my case. And why are you imputing my musical integrity when I, I'm a musical genius.

I, I've bellow forth the octaves and things. on a regular basis here on a program. People have put my pearly tones to the rap music and the stuff the kids listen to out there on the interweb. You found octaves that Mariah Carey couldn't find some of your singing.

Well, see there? I was looking at a different place. More people hate Mussolini today than back then because of you just saying his name or singing his name. Say it is singing and saying I'm singing his praises. I'll have you know that I'm a wonderful cunning linguist there when it comes to it's interpretation it's like Sinatra he wasn't a classical stylist it was all about his

interpretation my interpretation is what drives this train here baby and and I'm just I'm not happy to begin with now that especially after that assault on my your drums that you played here. But again, the weather is not cooperating, Brian. I saw the stupidest thing that I've seen in a week or two that a human being has done this morning. And I want to relate this to you. And it ties into the weather.

Okay. A week ago, we had five inches of snow on like Monday, December the fucking second or whatever it was, right? And that is the record amount of snowfall. I mentioned this on the program that we did right afterwards for that date in Louisville. Because we don't get snow this year. The average temperature is supposed to be 48, 49 degrees.

Right? So that's like four and a half inches, the five inches of snow was four and a half inches above the average snowfall we're supposed to get for this time of year. Have you noticed these averages are flopping these days? Whenever they, well, the averages, well, we're way off. anyway so then because it was so cold all week it didn't get above freezing it took until six days later the following sunday afternoon for all the snow to melt off of my yard here because we're still waiting to do the last cleanup from the leaves and everything i believe i mentioned because of that big giant red oak tree on my neighbor's property just it's still got leaves on it

anyway so it finally melted off on sunday afternoon and i thought well my my yard guys can get over this week and guess what it did on monday it snowed again another like inch and a half or whatever here just enough to cover everything back up again and what the fuck and now we're like six inches above our average of snow. And they say it's going to warm up for the next day or so, then rain and then turn really cold. And it's going to be down in single digits or the teens in the outlying areas, but nevertheless, this morning where there is still snow, not deep, but snow of some description on all

of the grass and the everywhere, right? you can see the tall grass poking up through it, that kind of snow, but it's snow on 85, 90% of the area. Guess who pulled up in my neighbor's yard this morning to do his final leaf cleanup. Landon, my old landscaping idiot, that I fired for being an idiot not doing my leaves right and banished him a couple years ago.

He still does the guy next. to me and a woman on the other side of me. And they actually got their lawned, the riding mowers off the trailer and the one guy drove from his driveway down past my fucking place on the road

his stand-up mower to the neighbor ladies and started in, I've never seen anybody run a lawnmower over snow-covered ground before. I've never seen that.

They started doing this. They started to. I opened the garage door about 8.30, 9, no, quarter to 9 this morning to let Bernie Sanders and his friend out, right? And I look, and there's this trailer sitting there and they're just starting to unload the stuff. And I heard them, and I saw the mowers going on the blah, blah, blah. And about 45 minutes later, and believe, if they do both of these properties, they would be here for normally they would be here for three hours

to do both of them together 45 minutes later they're loading their shit back up on the trailer and driving the fuck off I don't know what the fuck they thought they were doing but you couldn't cut it and you couldn't do the leaves

because there was snow he's running the lawnmower over like a thin three quarter inch inch coating of snow on the grass see I almost wish you didn't fire him back then just so you could fire him now, just so you can tell this story and it ends with.

I said, what the fuck are you doing? And you fired him. So now I know that he's also another of his services is he can mulch your snow for you. The unexpected return of Landon to the show. Landon's back, baby, and ten points stupider. So I guess they're going to come back at some point to finish the job that they, uh, I didn't, I didn't ask him. but I bet they probably will yes at some point I don't know what they did they did and I heard it and mowing and then boom and they're back up and gone are either of these two neighbors familiar with your situation with Landon and how fed up you were and that you fired him um I well I have told the neighbor lady

and the guy on the other side of me is it was actually the way that I found Landon to begin with. So he's his responsibility. So I have a feeling that he probably knows that we had a parting, but I haven't explained it to him

from my standpoint yet. Well, we'll see what happened. Hopefully we can get another Landon update before the end of the year. That'd be lovely. I'll let you know if he comes. Here's the thing. I don't know if we're going to get uncovered or not.

enough to do this. It's highly vexing. My guys are on standby. Well, no, my guys are on standby, but they're not going to come and mulch my snow. They're going to wait until if it gets that warm, a non-freezing day with no snow on the ground is what we're looking for.

It is, did I mention, it's supposed to be like 49 fucking degrees at this time of year. I don't like this. Can you mold my snow? That should be, some kind of weird sexual practice. Hey, baby, you want to mooch my snow? Robert F. Kennedy was a scene in a text message saying.

Oh, no, you've ruined it for me now. I'm trying to have fucking sex with a goddamn dried-up suitcase. Well, Jim, no one's asking you to do that, but what people are asking you to do is fulfill orders at Cornett's collectibles from Jim Corvette.com. What's going on? Fortunately, not as many people are asking as have been we have battled our way back.

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We're dealing with one of these agencies and you're probably not going to hear this. You out there in podcast land, the cult of Cornette until after the 11th. So please still order, but don't expect it until after New Year's, because we've almost beaten us. We're worn to a frazzle, but we appreciate the support for the holiday sales season. And as I said, it's basically then a, Brian, a physical possibility of turnaround time between when can we get the order? When can my eyes see it?

My hand sign it. We get it to him. me stick an envelope or a label on it and mail it, and that time is probably already passed that it's going to get there before Christmas. Jimcornett.com. That's right. Jimcornet.com. People loving heroes and friends.

Stay tuned for bums and scoundrels next year. It's going to be a whole line like that. It'll degenerate into random English pub names like the pig and whistle and the slap and tickle and whatever the fuck else. Well, Jim, even though we have no reviews, we have a ton of topics to hit, and we have a lot of questions, so we're going to really pack this show with a lot of stuff,

and we're going to start with some rather sad news, someone who you've spoken with on the show in the past. Steve Regal, Mr. Electricity, word came out over the weekend. I saw it on Facebook that he had passed away, apparently a little while back and word didn't get out. Let's talk a little bit about Steve Riggle. Well, and I'm so in the dark still about how the word didn't get out,

but we'll talk about that in a minute. And just for the sake of it at the top here, not the Steve Riegel that is now William Riegel that competed early in his career with William Riegel, W.W.E., everybody knows. but he wrestled as Steve Regal early in his career, but that was after the Steve Regal that we're talking about now, who his real name was legitimately Stephen Regal.

It was perfect. It was perfect for a fucking wrestler, right? But Steve Regal, who as you mentioned had been here on the show way back. We figured it out at seven years. that, you know, since that spot had been done, and we're working on putting that up on a YouTube channel so that people can hear it, but instead just a great guy overall, I thought,

and I was really sad to hear this. I didn't know, you know, everybody says, I didn't know he was sick, but I didn't know anything was wrong. I had last heard from him. We would, every once in a while send Twitter messages or whatever the kids call them back and forth. And I get the idea, Steve wasn't any, he was probably a little more conversant in the technology than I was,

but like he somehow texted a happy New Year to me this past January, but it went to the orders email from his phone number. I don't know how that even worked. But he was famous at first, and then later on kind of outgrew the territory and became a name on his own, but he was famous at first for being Wilbur Snyder's son-in-law. And that's what, you know, his career started there in the Indiana territory with Bruiser and Snyder because, and oh gosh, I can't remember Snyder's daughter's name.

And again, I haven't listened to the conversation. we had that probably will cover everything in the past eight years. But Steve saw the lifestyle, right? And he looked perfect for a baby face wrestler, especially at the time they needed one bad in Indiana, a young baby face. He was tall, he was athletic, he had a good, be it a surfer body, he had muscles,

but it wasn't like he wasn't a bodybuilder type, but looked great for the era, the long blonde hair, right? And had personality. And so he did everything from driving their ring truck to, you know, working the county fairs they do in the summer. And as Minnaker would say, all-star championship wrestling coming to Lagudi. That was a great education.

And I guess off the top of my head, I'm going to say that was probably 1977-ish because I was seeing the TV at the time. And he was naturally paired with Spike Huber, who was Bruiser's son-in-law that was starting to get in the business at approximately the same time.

One or the other may have been, you know, a year in front of the other. But that was the problem. And Brian, we just talked about Indianapolis wrestling. On, was it last week's program? Yeah, the experience. Last week where the territory was aging out and dying and everybody was old.

That was 1981. We were talking about in 77, the war with the Sheik had been over and both territories downsized and bruiser stuck with all the same guys. and by the late 70, Moose Cholak, I think this is a point where was he driving a truck or a bus at one point in Chicago? The guys had other jobs a lot of them

and lived in either the Chicago or Indianapolis area and they were all older. One of the, I swear to God, and I didn't know the significance of this until afterwards, do you know the name Miguel Brubacherous? Blackie Guzman.

Of course. The original. Yeah. From where? From where do I know the name or where is he from? You know from where do you know the name? Mostly Texas. But he was also a Lucha legend

and contemporary of El Santo. Did you know that? Who am I thinking of now that? Who was Al Santo's brother that I'm thinking of? Well, I don't know. Now we've gone down a different thing. I thought it was black. I thought it was him actually as I was thinking about it.

So hold on. Well, okay, look it up. But the point I was going to make is Miguel Blackie Guzman, who was one of the legends of Lucillebrae in the 50s, was an underneath guy living in Indianapolis working preliminaries for Bruiser in his 70s. Yeah, he's El Santo's brother. Well, there you go.

And El Rio de Santos' nephew, and there's a whole bunch of other wrestlers. we've never heard of in the family, too. But nevertheless, at that time, he had to be in his late 50s. Asanto retired in the early 80s when he was at his 60s, right? Bobo Brazil was so old. I'm just going down to Lil Wilbur. All the guys were old or looked old, and here came Steve Regal and Spike Huber.

and they never they featured them on television and they put them in upper card matches but did they never put them in the main event except if Spike was teaming with bruiser and the thing is Spike

a wonderful young man but he was not the he had the bodybuilder physique but he also had kind of a bodybuilder brain. He was not the personality, Steve. He wasn't as quick and his glib and as intelligent

as Steve Regal was. And he wasn't as natural in the ring with his work. And so, Spike ended up, except for the time that he and Steve came to Memphis as a tag team when Jarrett and Breazer's territory

were working together. Spike never and he went to St. Louis because Bruiser, you know, Sam Muchnick, Central States, we're all friends, used my son-in-law. I don't think Spike ever worked anywhere else, did he?

Can you remember? After 83 or 84? I mean, even before that, you know, it's like... No, not really, not really. So that's what the... Steve, that's where I met him in 79. He came to Memphis.

He got out of there. early because, again, he was so athletic. And he was so good in a ring, and he looked great for the girls, right? And by 1979, give you an example, Louisville's 100 miles from Indianapolis. The four shows per month in Louisville together would draw many more fans than Bruiser's entire month's schedule anywhere, including Indianapolis, for the previous month. So there was, I think, and I'm trying to remember,

we probably covered it again in the discussion that we had, but basically Steve had the capability to go out and do more, and he got booked in Memphis, and they used the upper baby face, you know, upper midcard, or, you know, right underneath, they teamed him with Jimmy Valiant when Jimmy was, hottest baby face. And he got over

sold pictures great. And then, you know, he also worked in Georgia for a while around that time. And then also did a run in Portland. He was in various places and starting to be known.

And then I, again, he came back home in 82, so he had that run in Indy with him and Spike that ended up them coming to Memphis again. And that was the thing. I don't know of what period of time.

I can't quote it date by date, but Spike met a girl in Memphis. And that's what fucked up his marriage to Bruiser's daughter. And his career. And his career, which is why after what, 1985, Spike,

you know, by bye. But again, you know, when you think about it again if I'm saying he was probably still a haul in the ring in 76 so if Steve

Regal had started in say 77 and been into business by 82, five years, he's just really, he was always good, the drop kick and the fucking baby face fire on the comebacks

and just the athleticism, his basics, everything was good. When you shot him off turnbuckle to turnbuckle, his feet would leave the ring in the middle of the ring, and he'd turn in midair

and take that fucking thing with his feet in the air. Just amazing. But he was smart to the business too and had a good fucking promo. So that, I guess, what was the running at the AWA?

Oh, him and Jimmy Garvin. Yeah, but 84 is what I'm going to say, right? 85. 85, because they may have started late 84 for any nitpickers out there. but Steve had been a baby face all of his career. And again, as I see, he was great at it. And, you know, sold a lot of pictures in Memphis.

But switching heel with the blonde hair again, the body, him and gorgeous Jimmy and the sequins, it fit. That was a great fucking spot for him, too, to wear five years into a guy's career. He's switched heel. Now he's the top tag team in a major territory. and one would think, you know, he's still young, and so he's got decades left, right? And I mean, I could see if in a perfect world,

Nick Bockwinkle and Steve Regal at a singles program, if, you know, if the AWA hadn't collapsed, would have been sweet, right? But instead, as we mentioned before with everybody bailing out of the AWA by the time it was kind of and everybody's coming either Crockett or going to the WWF remember Steve came to to Crockett in 80 I guess 86 and spent a better part of a year and somebody had even tweeted what I was doing the summer bash TVs where I was in what does do what it would

me wear for my summer outfit. I got the fucking goddamn hat like Orson Wells in the fucking you know, South America movie or whatever the fuck and the flowery shirts and Hawaiian shit and everything. And somebody tweeted an interview

that I hadn't even thought of in years that we were doing with Jimmy and Steve. But they used Jimmy more as a, as the single heel it was featured. And Steve got kind of shuffled in the middle at that point. And that was just bad timing because a Crockett was so overloaded with everybody that, you know, he couldn't pop his head up.

And then everything went to, he's another one of the guys that had major territory still existed. He was really just starting to take off as far as a commodity. and he just, there was no place left to go. Good in the ring? Fantastic. That's, if you had a guy like Steve Regal right now, when, and I'm not saying, when he was, let's say,

27 years old or 28 years old or whatever the fuck, when that Steve Regal, if you had him right now, he would have better basics and more athleticism. He was a little over six feet tall. he was lean is why he was like 220 pounds but again surfer fucking body and the great leaping drop kicks and he wouldn't have been a goddamn gymnast but his work would be in the top just technical in ring work from i'm not talking holes john punches and timing and etc would be in a top 15 or 20 percent today

and I mean if anybody wants to go and look at you know anything on YouTube unless it's unless it's anything from Brewers territory with him with a fucking senior citizen AARP recipient I don't you know but look at his stuff in the AWA or in Crockett you get matches with Denny Brown for fuck sake poor little pudge ball an answer to the trivia question you know who defeated the road warriors for the AWA tag titles. Yes, and that was part of the heat also that if Vern's territory hadn't been

flummoxing at that point, that Jimmy Garvin and Steve Regal in a total combined weight of 430 pounds, the two pretty boys and the sequins with the girl, precious, and the blah, blah, blah, beat the road warriors because to go to Crockett, they had to drop fucking Vern's belts

on the way of which was an agreement of Vernon Crockett that was in four. forced. So that was part of the heat that the little pretty boys beat the, you know. And I don't know too much about this. I'd have to go back and look at what I have, but according to this, Scott Hall and Kurt Henning won the tag titles on January 18, 1986, an Albuquerque, New Mexico, and a phantom match, which was said to have occurred to cover for Regal leaving the company while still champion. that's interesting well and

was he the first was he the first of the AWA champions to walk out of the company not the last well no wait I'm trying did Garvin go at the same time or did Garvin stick around because Garvin was I was in working for Crocket

with Garvin in January of 1986 was I not definitely 86 I just don't remember when he got there damn it See, it's not my week to watch him. We'll see what more we can find out about that. We'll dig into this mystery. Well, you said the interview, the conversation you had with Steve Riggle was on the show in 2018,

so it's available, of course, to the patrons at patreon.com slash cornet. But we're going to try to get that interview up on the YouTube channel in the coming days. So stay tuned for that. You know, but that's the thing is, I guess I want to make the point is, besides the fact, nice guy, bright guy, and wasn't, again, wasn't destitute after he left the business there's not going to be a dark side of the ring you know he was fine he was living in florida and i think somebody see this is the thing oh i wanted to bring this up nobody knew he he died in july and i don't know how again i you know

hadn't grilled him in the past few years on what is you know who's your immediate family to contact case of emergency we hadn't been contact like that that. But with all these other obscure kind of people that we get these reports on, I don't know how this, and I'm still waiting. Somebody tell me how that this may have gone unreported for six months or whatever. Apparently, I understand it may have been a heart issue is all that I know. But I just hate to hear it because, again, he was not like, okay, wrestling is over now. I'm going to have to goddamn live a shiftless life for the rest of my life and live on past glory he moved on from it.

But it's another one of those guys that really was just starting to be used in his early 30s, I believe at that time, and what, 1984 or 5, just starting to get used as a great performer in the ring, has shown now he's got personality, and if the system had continued another, five years he was time perfectly to be a big star and one of the other of the companies for you know quite a while but we lost a lot of talent when all that went to shit so i hate to

i hate to hear about this anyway though he was a very very nice guy very very quick you know it's interesting this has happened a few times recently where a wrestler died and we didn't find out until after the fact, I think it was Renee Goulet, Steve Regal. Bob Ellis. Bob Ellis. That's the extreme example. That was like six years or something. He had cone of uncle, Bob.

He died 10 years ago. What the hell are you talking about? He's not 96. He's fucking dead. You know, it seems like if you don't work the circuit and still do conventions and stuff, it's almost like you vanish if anything happens. No one's paying attention. We heard something a few months ago, and I'll put it out.

out there just in case it's true, in case someone has more information. But on the topic of people passing and no one knowing or no one hearing and no one talking about it and this person not being around, we heard something about sunshine passing. And again, it was another one of these things where look who died a year ago or whatever it was. Yes. Now people are going to think that heathen he doesn't remember.

Did we verify that? Was that... We never were able... Did that actually happen? It was in an area where we thought she may have lived. It was a woman approximately the age of what we thought sunshine would be.

And it was the name. The fingerprints were burned off with carbolic acid. See, the walking on sunshine manager doesn't want to stop now. He still has more things to say. We had fun. Hey, you know what?

That was one of her single, biggest payoffs that night, I bet yet, that she walked on me in the Tarrant County Convention Center, because that was the biggest payoff I got the whole goddamn. We were in the tag team title match at Texas

Stadium, and that was a single $1,000 from those cheap bastards. Hey, I don't even know if you would know the answer to this, but how were valets paid in world class like 83, 84, 85? Was it like a manager getting paid or was it different if it was, you know, the guy's wife or something?

Well, I can tell you what I know. And there was obviously going to be differences. When we first got there, me and Bobby and Dennis did not express. Okay, we were, as we've told the story, so we were going there at the behest of Bill Watts, who wanted us to be there and work for Fritz and they were going to change talented, etc. so instead of going to work for Crockett we go there and this is something actually I hadn't thought of in a while until you brought it up specifically

we get our checks the first week and I don't remember what I got but it wasn't the same as what Bobby and Dennis got and I went to ask about it and they said you're their manager and apparently they were not used to paying the manager as much as they paid one of the boy, the guy that he's managing,

unless that guy was also wrestling on the fucking card or some other goddamn deal, because remember they only kept 12 fucking people, right? Or if it was the Booker, Gary Hart was the top manager and the Booker for a long time. Yes. So he, you know, that was a separate fucking, and we said, oh, no, contrar,

oh, contrar monfriere, no, we're out of hair. and let know, because we remember we'd already given our notice the ones to go to Charlotte, and then fucking Watts talked us out of it, blah, blah, blah. So they kid, Bobby and Dennis to them said he has been getting, because that was what Watts did from day one. We each of the three of us got the same thing, whatever, they just split what the team would get up three different ways, basically, like promoters do it. but we all got the same payoff for, you know, in many cases,

I was going through the most fucking danger of the process. And so, no, he gets the same thing and they, all right. And I mean, what was it going to be? And some of those payoffs we got $85. What was it going to be $15 difference? They paid Dennis Convry one night at a spot show for working twice. in the single match, the captain's match of the tag team match, and then the tag team match with the Fantastics,

he got a $63 payoff. 63, the minimum was $50, right? You're going to get that if you show up and fart in the ring. And there's just two people there, right? That's the guarantee is $50. but at this sparsely populated fucking spot show for working twice he got $63 he looked at it said like they shaved it down to the fucking nub

that's the most we can give this son of a big give him $13 for that extra match but again that's managers and of course Dallas had Gary Hart they had Scandar Akbar they had you but the valets really started in 83 and you know, by 85, there were, I mean, well, even before then, I was going to say they're in matches and they're doing things, but it was a big deal on the show where they ever paid like it. That's, I don't know, and in some case, may have been an individual thing, because Jimmy Garvin was sunshine.

It was probably like, you know, give her a manager payoff or whatever, and they didn't know she was going to become a phenomenon. With Precious, that's his wife, and maybe they negotiate. associated something because they're not a jimmy garvin was in main events with chris adams and etc they're not going to give precious his valet or manager the same as you know as the single guys would get in the featured fucking main event of goddamn things and it wasn't truthfully and honestly like precious added to the gimmick but she was neither his primary mouthpiece as a manager to talk for him or, you know, really attracting any of the physically violent heat. And Gary Hart was the Booker.

So as a manager, he would get obviously paid more than a lot of the boys on the car. And with Stella May, they probably, you know, I don't know what the fuck. They deal they made with her. She was a year later working at the fucking dry cleaners in the streets. I don't know what to tell you. But I can tell you that if any of the girls wrestled, like if it was Sunshine and Garvin and Pritches... Sunshine and Missy ended up working together, I believe.

Okay, well, and Missy could probably address this more eloquently than I have, you know, from her standpoint, but if the girls wrestled in like a mixed tag or a match on the card, I believe they got whatever payoff that the wrestling, in that spot on the card would get, whether it was legitimate or not from the fucking promoter. I've just told you about a $63 payoff, one of the guys got.

But they would be paid like a wrestler if they actually had a match on the card, I think. Well, we'll see. If anyone knows anything about Sunshine, Valerie French, let us know. Again, we're not sure, but it seemed like it may be, but we don't know.

We don't know what's going on. Maybe she just, again, you know, she just wanted to disappear and lead a happy life crocheting somewhere. I called Stella May French and she yelled at me and told me to get out of show business. So that didn't know. It counts so well.

Jim, on the topic of things in the news, we should get to this because we have heard from some listeners. Not a terrible amount, to be quite honest with you. Who wanted to know what you thought about? Recent comments. I guess some pros, some con, from Vince Rousseau, and he just did an interview with Ariel Helwani

where, of course, you were brought up and... You know, by the way, Ariel should change his name and get a show business name because it's hard. It's hard for some people to pronounce. Well, Vince Russo was on there, known for his wonderful pronunciation of things. And, of course, you were brought up

because that's one of the main things people think about when they think about Vince Russo is you. now wait a minute well I don't mean that in a negative way to you I just mean people know what you think of him you've been very vocal about it and a lot of many people feel the same way this time he

called you names he called you a goof you're a goof and you're just jealous of him but I was a genius the previous week see that's it he did some interview I think somewhere else on YouTube where he said nothing but nice things about you

That's the thing. Here's the thing is for a couple weeks now, you know, he's got a new misadventure, which we laughed about here on the program a month or two ago. We heard about it. We'll get back to that. But he's again in desperate attempts to get publicity for what that he believes is going to unleash his wisdom and genius upon the cinematic

world and revolutionized wrestling. He's grasping at straws to get people to listen to him again. And a month or so ago, whatever it was, we laughed about his latest misadventure because it was comedic gold and so apropos to the whole thing that here he's a 65 year old man that's been trying to get a job in a business that he had a moment of glory

in 30 years ago to the point where he's wearing a sign on the side of the road saying we'll book for food and he's cold called and emailed networks and tried to buddy up to former bosses

and complained publicly that it's all a bunch of shit and only I know the way and I will do it for anyone that takes advantage of it and nobody does and that he is legitimately campaigned on the theory. Do you remember Oral Roberts, Brian?

Oh, yeah. Kids, there was a televangelist named Oral Roberts back in the 80s, I swear to God, a preacher named Oral. It wrote itself. And he actually gave a dead lad one, time he said if we don't raise X amount of dollars for this ministry, God is going to call me home. He actually told his people, if you don't send in money, God's going to kill me.

And they did, and he didn't. And that's what Russo has been doing. He's been, I'm going to retire and quit watching wrestling. It didn't sound such and such date. How many times have we heard that? It's like, get me now. what before I jump off this cliff and nobody's throwing a net over him.

The mental hospital ought to be throwing a net over him. And now it's somewhat apropos that he's a 65-year-old man that's been begging for a job at his former glory business of 30 years ago that is now resorted to working for a promotion run by literal clowns. actual club people who self-identify as clowns. Are the clowns here?

Yes, we are. And we dress like them, act like them, and present wrestling like them. And into the clown show walks my old friend. And for the record, it's not just working there. We were told the release was that he's an investor there as well. Well, yeah, yeah, and blow me. he's again he's the cinematic director for whatever their fucking vision is but nevertheless

so he does an interview with somebody and and and i start hearing on twitter what do you think about this that russo's saying nice things about you he says you're a genius and you this and this and that and i have never and don't intend to listen to that voice except if i'm tied to a chair and being interrogated. If you want me to spill my guts, play the voice, and I'll make it stop. But otherwise I ain't listening to it. You and I, Brian, when we talk about him here on the program,

we read recaps of public things that he's done, said, or been involved in to ridicule the preposterosity of them and then move along, but I do not listen to his voice. But the gist was he was saying, bunch nice things about. Because he wanted me to respond to him, which is what I'm doing now just to get it over with. And I didn't want to respond to him

because he's just groping and grasping and fondling for publicity on his new venture of working for literal clowns. And then he goes on to show a week later. Ah, Cornett's a fucking idiot. He's like, God, Jesus, because he's mad because he responded. Well, maybe he's,

this will work. And I wouldn't really go to say anything about that either, but everybody. So I will issue a blanket. I don't respond to shit stain when he talks about me

because that's when he's trying to get publicity. And whatever he says about me will be based on whatever angle or swerve he's working as whether he thinks it to get him attention. I only mock his general public activities and statements about other people and things

when they are appropriate. And because he has such a track record, people think that we talk about him constantly, or he'd like to have them think that, but he's part of the passing American parade to us. but just as a blanket answer of Jesus, age Christ, I'll leave this as the summation. I've almost done better than the grave pissing, Brian,

when you think about it, because we're the same age, me and Vinnie Rue, and he still so desperately either needs the money or the fucking attention, that he will subject himself at a point of time where we're both about to get the Medicare to fucking going out in these barns

and working for these clowns and doing this outlaw wrestling bullshit. Why would you need either at this stage of your life? I, on the other hand, may have had the last piss because for the past 10 years I've been telling people actively on this forum

I'm done working for anybody I'm doing my own thing even when I was still doing appearances they had been reduced in number and basically for my friends and then I've continued to announce that I will not be back and yet he is still

it's reduced to this. What's next? Is he going to show up in different people's backyards for their barbecue matches and try to book those? How much farther down the fucking totem pole can you fall before it's not a fall? It's not a pole, but it's a goddamn hole. He's falling down the totem hole. You know, like you said, a lot of the, listeners, whenever they see him do something, they reach out because they just want to hear you

make fun of him. They enjoy that. And obviously, I think Ariel was hoping that, you know, they can get kind of a thing. And Ariel later tweeted that he'd love to have you on. Of course he would. And, you know, I think he should have called out, you know, some of the bullshit. If you're going to allow someone to say that Jim Cornett has a problem with them because other people like Dixie and Vince McMahon chose his ideas over them, you're forgetting.

getting the realities of the situation. Jim Coronet had a guy, it was later, it was exposed, writing emails to Dixie Carter trashing him. At the same time that Jim was trying to be a good team player and help out when everyone in that company was begging him to produce their matches. So it's not exactly the same thing. It's not about the choice of Booker. It's about the behavior of the person.

His story fluctuates depending on the audience and the need for the point of the story to favor him. And the problems didn't we? Our problems started long before anybody chose anybody. I was ready to gouge his fucking eyeballs out probably three weeks into fucking working with him. You know, someone actually just sent me the video. It's been a while and I checked it out because it's only a few minutes and it's funny. of you telling the DQ Schmeeku story, which was

the same thing. He didn't react to you. He turned around and ran to Vince McMahon and complained about you. And then Vince ran to J.R. and told him to come and talk to me and then I told J.R. what he said. Then J.R. went back to him.

This was what we were doing with fucking Raw. Because of this fucking moron. I never, that's another thing. I never went to any support. superior officer and told him so-and-so said a rude thing about me. I addressed, I either addressed it with that person or I didn't. And, but he saw him, he said, oh, God, this fucking idiot.

He's been in a business a year. He's going to tell me about finishes. What the fuck? And I guess we'll just end with the, the funny part, which is he's doing this little media tour. All anyone cares about is, you know. you responding to him, no one's talking about the thing he's attempting to promote. He thinks he's getting free publicity for it and no one's talking about it.

No one cares about it. It's a fucking rib. It's a guy who used to work for a successful restaurant chain has now come out with his own shit sandwich. What the fuck? And again, to put it to rest, he still thinks that in his mind, and he's convinced a few weak-minded people, but he still thinks in his mind that he was the glorious one all along because of two fucking years.

Two years, 30 years ago, that he was part of a successful entity with many moving parts that we've mentioned. And from then on, everything has been downhill and or banishment. If you just, except for TNA as on a major league level, if you can call TNA that during all of his ten years

he's not legitimately been employed by anybody in the last 20 fucking years I've made more goddamn appearances for different companies than he has on television in total in the last 20 years so I fail to see now why that if he wants to argue with me. If you want me to give you some publicity events at this point,

then do something spectacularly stupid and funny, and we'll comment on it. And it shouldn't take you long. Or have a goddamn fight and break up with whatever people you're trying to work with over there like you usually do on your... Remember the one time years ago that he had a fight and he got locked out of his own fucking podcast that he was Oh my God. I forgot all about that. That's right. Yeah. Yes. And he was telling

people he's just telling people, don't buy anything from Vince Russo.com. I retweeted it. I said an opinion I share. Because he couldn't get his own fucking website. He's, oh, this is, at this point, he's grandpa

with his fucking robe open and his tallywacker hanging out, asking the neighborhood to look at him because he's going to do something brilliant again when he squats down and shits out some fucking paint on the canvas in the front yard. Just give us, give us, you know, give us some material, Vince.

We'll laugh at you, but otherwise I'm not going back and forth. It's not even fair at this point. I'll just continue, I'll continue to be over here, being the best in the world at the particular thing I do, again. You can be over there, working for the clowns. Yeah, he's on the interview,

and he's like, I've challenged him to a debate with all the money go into cauliflower rally, but he doesn't say, and I also issued a restraining order against him. But also, no, that's the thing,

it was a loophole. He never said the cauliflower rally club. He said, I will send it to cauliflower alley. Like, it was going to go to an animal welfare. fucking the collie flowers and

that was one of the things is meet me face to face on a podcast dude we'll send all the money to Carl Lauer to manage that's a great idea oh gee what he couldn't

have pronounced Carl Lauer anyway it'd be like the Chinese guys try to sing fucking Christmas carols on the fucking Christmas movie I did the videos for the NWA 50th anniversary, a cauliflower alley thing that Dennis promoted. And was it Cherry Hill or Philly, I don't remember.

But I did, you know, the videos for each presenter. And it was like Fred Blassie, Tully Blanchard, Jim Ross, you, variety of people. All of a sudden, Carl Lauer, who I'd never met before, runs up to me. And I'm a teenager still. He goes, Brian, how'd you like to come to Iowa? Get away from me, you creep.

I don't know who you are and I ain't going to Iowa with you. But it turned out, they wanted videos for like whatever they were doing out there. And I was like, no, I'm all right. I'll be over here. Yes. No, Coral was not a creep. He was a nice, nice guy. He was just very enthusiastic.

Just an enthusiastic guy. He was an old-time promoter. Well, you know, Jim, you mentioned that Rousseau had two years. He was a part of a machine that really pop WWE. That's two years. And that's a long time ago. But memories last forever. And sometimes, whether you.

Memories? Memories? Memories. Memories. Oh, man, I thought you meant memories. Let's get out of the gutter, Mr. Oh. What I'm saying is it could be a job, it could be a relationship, it could be community college,

but whether it's two years or more than that, ladies and gentlemen, we all want to capture those memories and keep them nearby or memories. And of course, you can show all these photos on your beautiful or a frames frame. And Jim, I know we have a great deal for the listeners. Boy, howdy, you can do that. And I'll tell you how you can do it, because what the aura frame is, is it's a technological marvel, Brian, and Stacey and her mother and her nephew, well, the nephew of the family, it's different relationships.

But they've all got these things, and they're passing the pictures back and forth. And it's incredible. I don't know what the limit is, probably more pictures than you've got of your family or would even want, because they're going. they, they, it just keeps going, the slideshow over and over. And for the pictures that are high res, well, these just, they pop out like regular old pictures there. And you can't tell that it's a, a projection at all.

And they, you can load them up and send them to somebody so you can send them loaded, or you can get the person loaded after they get it. And if you get them good and loaded, the thing looks even better. And sometimes they'll see these people without any clue. on because they're drunk off their ass. We just took a major leap there, ladies and gentlemen. Let's focus. Let's get back to the clothes.

Yes, back to the frame. The slideshow, you can add pictures. It even takes video. It doesn't take video. It accepts video and broadcast the video on the screen. You can make, you know, cousin Simpson there. Put him on the set of the 6 o'clock news if you do it, right? Because it broadcasts him.

And then he can be the news. say ladies and gentlemen, the world is coming to an end, and it'll scare Granny. But a lot of these things, you may take some time to figure out how to do, but you can put the pictures right on there and the regular video and the audience. It even plays, it even plays, hi, Grandma, boy, it stinks in there. Listen, regular people, regular photos, regular videos, of course, even live photos from Apple can move in real time on a beautiful aura frame. Send Granny wonderful photos of all the family members she loves.

Let's say you hold your phone in front of the kid and get the kid to say, hey, Granny, why does it smell like beans in your place? Why would you do that? Well, so Granny could answer while it's interactive for the whole family. Granny's on the phone, listen to this shit. Listen, I don't know if this is necessarily how or why. It should work.

But let's talk about photos and videos and of course Jim, the feature I love, you turn out the lights at the end of the night, the frame goes off. So does Jim's microphone apparently. No, no, no. I was breathing something that can do later.

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you know, or just lounging about all natural and it could be art. Regular everyday photos. Or it could be art or George or Ben or any of them. Regular everyday photos and videos for regular everyday people, something that you can get romantic. You could. Let's say that some of,

Somebody wants to remember all of their lost loves. All of it takes hundreds, folks, so all of you would apply. Just a thought, are you there? A great conversation on mute is still a great conversation to someone. Jim, one last time, that promo code for everyone out there who is just looking for a wonderful, wonderful aura frame for themselves or their family. promo code is JCE, 35 bucks off, get them while they're hot, right now, boom. Jim, let's talk about another happening on social media. Have you been following, or are you at all aware of the Rick Flair-Hannibal feud that has suddenly broken out?

Okay, no, actually blissfully I was unaware of this. All right, I'm trying to see what started it, because that's kind of the question. Rick Flair had one of his Rick Flair social media posts and caps going after Hannibal, but I'm not sure what caused it. I have something here that says Hannibal recently slammed Rick Flair online after Flair claimed that Hogan died from street clubs, street clubs, from street club drugs, excuse me. What, now it's street club drugs? Rick Flair says that the street clubs.

It's just regular old street drugs before, now it's street club drugs. Those gangs of roving street club members. What the... Hannibal said... But that's the problem. That's the thing is if nobody... If we are unaware of what started it, it's because Hannibal said it online

and nobody knows what the fuck he says online. Apparently Hannibal said that Flair openly admitted that he shouldn't say this before making the... Which he did. We heard that. Hannibal described Flair as someone who invents stories for attention and money.

specifically pointing to Flair's false claim about being present the night bruiser Brody was murdered. Hannibal criticized Flair's apology to Hogan's camp and said Flair was simply trying to avoid any legal consequences. Quote, in other words, let's not dwell on my lie. I should read it like Hannibal. In other words, let's not dwell on my lies. Don't sue me. So apparently that may have been what triggered Rick Flair. he also pointed out Flair's habit of embellishing story stretches back years and we've heard the bruiser Brody one in the past I don't think Flair made that up for profit or anything

I think Flair in his own head he I will go ahead and say it Brian so you don't have to at some point because Rick Flair had been to Puerto Rico a million times just like you'd been everywhere else a million times and they had worked together around that time. And then the story had been told so long. And then after 20 years, Flair had been drunk so many times. That one time he says, yes, I was there.

Would it happen? No, I don't. And again, we've unfortunately had to comment somewhat negatively on a lot of the things that Rick has done here in recent, years, but I don't think he ever lies for profit, like, oh, God, but you know, somebody's going to give me more money because I was here when this happened. I think he, at some points, just gets confused because it's been 40 fucking years. And it's, you know, it just, this happens to be something that so many of the fans remember

Brody's murder I'm talking about. fuck it could have at that point you know it could be something that happened in goddamn Memphis 10 years before that and he would not remember he had anything to do with it or whatever the fuck it's just it's that's an outstanding memory well Rick Flair took to social media I have something here from Facebook before I read Rick Flair's comment it is something that he posted I don't know where this is from

but it says forward Devin Hannibal Nicholson has the size, the intensity, and the passion to chase the spotlight. But in the pro-wrestling world, it only gets you so far. He's a solid worker who never truly crossed into that legendary tier. While Rick Flair didn't just become a star... That was awfully fucking generous, wasn't it? I think so. While Rick Flair didn't just become a star, he became the standard, a global icon,

whose charisma, promo, storytelling, and record-setting title reigns made him one of the most influential performers in history. Nicholson is known among devoted fans. Well-worded, but actually not far off, because you have to give Flair all of that stuff. I agree. Nicholson is known among devoted fans for grinding and trying to break through.

What? But Flair's name is recognized by people who have never even watched wrestling, his whew! echoing through decades of arenas as proof of a presence that commands attention. The moment he steps to recurton...

These sentences are long. I apologize. I missed it there. Yes. Simply put, Rick Flair is immortalized as a cornerstone of the business while Nicholson is still fighting to earn a seat at a table flare built.

Why is this essay even being written, why is this even a point that's being argued? Is anyone in Lord knows what universe trying to say that fucking doofball up in Canada is only by even comparison, we're actually in the same profession briefly, and otherwise there's no time that they're in the same universe together. Is there? What is happening here? I don't know exactly, but he posted that, and then this is what Rick Flair wrote.

I'm sorry, Hannibal, or whatever the F your name is, because no one cares and no one ever will. Someone sent me this, and I thought I would give you a clue about how you're perceived by the general public. These are not my words. These are comments about your laughable opportunity to be anything but full of shit. I actually have more information, but I'll save you from the embarrassment. Have a great weekend. Hope you're watching football like I am. FYI, 2,000 followers.

You're such a stud. What are your thoughts? Ha ha ha. Let me just compose myself here for a second. That's a best for a promo in a while. Woo! Dee, was he just, you know, sitting there waiting for a flight? or something and going, what the fuck is this guy saying?

Because how would, what, I'm wondering how would what Hannibal says or what somebody who was listening to what Animal says even come across Flare at this point without, somebody walking up and saying, what do you think about this? But he certainly made his feelings known. I like the idea of Flare sitting there watching football. He's like, you know what, it's time to train about Hannibal. whoever the fuck you are

he's part of one of those street clubs with the Egyptian I guess I guess our boy Devin is trying to still try to get some attention on nobody hears anything about him anymore I thought that somebody had revoked a parole or something we had heard a while back that he's not doing wrestling

and now like Chase his UFO whatever the fucking was. But no wonder his life intersected with flares. Well, that's the update on that. Ladies and gentlemen. Jim, another follow-up on something we've recently talked about here on the show. Yes. The Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Olivia Nuzzi, we're still not sure.

Nuzzly. A fair in scandal. Of course, her ex-fiancee, Ryan Lizza, is all over Substack tearing her apart. But here we have a copy of a page from her new book, her new memoir that just came out. Now, she's got a book out now. Is it a boudoir memoir?

Does she give the lowdown on the ugly? I'm not sure. The page we have here concerns the WWE Hall of Fame. Okay. But now, just so I can keep track now, Ryan Liza is her ex-boyfriend. Yes. And he wrote a book.

No. He's on subs. He lost his job. And now he's on substack. He's just on substack. He, but he's spilling his guts on substack. Spilling the tea, as the kid says. Spilling the tea and the P and everything else.

There's some S, all that stuff. It's all over the carpet. He's on substack. This woman feels that her view. points on the world are so important as she's written a book. Not about any particular subject people might be educated by, but about

her experiences in the world with all these other people that are telling their fucking side of the story. And she just lost her latest job. Vanity Fair has announced that she won't be returning in the new year. So that's a good time as any to fucking write a book and tell everybody off.

And she is the one who's having the some type of affair that may or not just be, as our great former President Jimmy Carter said, lusting in their hearts, with the desiccated corpse of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Well, this was after her apparent affair with Mark Sanford, a former presidential candidate and a, was he governor? Or he was, what was he? No, he was governor of South Carolina. Was he not? That's right. And he was the honorary mayor of South America.

That's right. Very big in Argentina, for what I understand. And also, it turns out apparently when she was 18 for several years, she was in a relationship with Keith Olberman. That just came out. And he's talked about that. So she certainly likes older men. She doesn't seem to have one political type or one cultural type or one sort of ideological type. But there is an age and wealth type. And of course she lost her job with Vanity Fair. It has come out that apparently she was coaching Robert F. Kennedy, who of course she was covering as a reporter to get away from the whole scandal end of it,

just the actual journalistic integrity part of it or lack of integrity. She was consulting him on how he can better run for president while covering him and being a political reporter. So that's part of a while covering him. Give me the full top spread, baby. Well, this is a section from her book. I don't even have the name of the book here. I'll get that in a moment, but it's a page from the book. It's News from Newsy.

This is, I don't know how this came up or why, but I'll read it. Every little thing seemed to matter. There was always something new to consider, or something to consider in a new way. In that spirit, I called WWE headquarters. What? That took a... A sudden right fucking turn? Sorry.

Not possible, the receptionist said. Not possible? I asked. Visiting would be impossible, she said. My eyes narrowed. I looked out the window of my newsroom in the Frank Geary building on the Hudson River that looked like a big block of glacier ice. I did not like to be trapped anyplace.

even somewhere I considered architecturally defensible, and I had wanted to escape today, had been counting on this opportunity to escape. The news of the impossibility of a visit to the Hall of Fame depressed me. It's private, I asked. There's no place to visit, the receptionist said. No place, I asked.

Right, she said. it moved? I asked. No, it's, you know, an idea, she said. An idea? The hall of, she cut in. No hall. There's no hall. There's no hall, Jerry. Where's the hall? Then, what is it? I asked. It's an idea, she said. An idea? She had mentioned that already. It doesn't exist, I asked. Well, it exists, she said. Where? I asked. As an idea, she said.

It was a place only in imagination. So what do you think of this little story of Hurch calling a WWE receptionist about visiting the Hall of Fame and what they are told to say about that, I guess? Well, that's the problem here. And I certainly am intrigued to find out, first of all, this may be, be proof that any idiot that has an audience can write a book. And I speak from experience because that just sounds like crap to me, the writing style, but nevertheless, I don't know why she was motivated to want to find

that maybe for some person that she knew to cheer them up, a sick child, whatever she wants to go to the WWL. Imagine if they sent her to Vince? Oh, my God. All right now. Let's not make this all in the gutter here. But the bigger issue is they can't even tell. I don't have any idea who the receptionist may be at this point in time,

but there is a main, when you call the goddamn main number, at least back in the day, you got the person at the main desk there in the lobby of Titan Tower that they didn't leave until a couple years ago. And because if you didn't know the direct, number of the person that you were calling, you could call that number during business hours, and they would connect you.

So that was who she, and how they would not have told someone to say, well, the Hall of Fame inductions are done every year as part of our WrestleMania ceremonies, and there's no physical Hall of Fame now as more of an honorary nomination with these ceremonies, etc.

Or just something instead of it's an idea it doesn't exist. No, it exists. It exists as an idea. It exists as an idea. Why don't they just do something?

I'm not saying you have to rent a Frank Gehry building or anything. He just died. I'm not saying you have to do that, but... I bet you could get it cheap then. Why not just have a building somewhere, even if it's close to the office where you display the stuff you have in your warehouse.

Just, why not do something? Do you know how much that it would cost for a building near their office of any size of bigger than a dry cleaners place? That's not going to bankrupt them? Well, but just, you know, it would sit there because especially possibly since it's up there in that part of the country in summertime

if people are taking trips rather than the dead of winter, nobody says, oh, let's go to Connecticut. the middle of Stamford, not some goddamn ski resort or whatever, it would sit there. It would not, it would, it would not make its operating costs, much less the expense of the real estate and the building and et cetera, because they would gimmick it up where it would be a,

you know, a museum of the W.W.E. from 19, what, 87 to fucking 2027 and they'd have some older things and the people that would care about them are not going to make the fucking trip just to see that but they'd rather go see the Feffer Collection.

You see what I'm saying? It's just it wouldn't end up breaking even in any kind of way. I mean, I don't want the Saudis to get it, but I would have to think that considering what they have and how many people are wrestling fans, how many rich people are wrestling fans and executives, there probably is a way they could almost sell the

almost like the World's Fair just sell the rights to advertise yourself within the Hall of Fame you know the Colgate 1980s or whatever the fuck you do there's a way to do that and they have no problem selling everything from Slim Jim tables to

you know prime water or whatever the hell it is so I just they just don't seem to want to I think I think There's more, they have more upside, more blue skies, as Jerry Jarrett would say, in making a traveling attraction that is part of one of their weekend packages,

and instead of bringing the whole shebang, bring exhibits focused on X or Y or Z, and the, the, the, the, the, the, that type of thing, where, If they could work up to four times a year, it's a destination point for a weekend for the fans to see these items as well as these other things going on in town. And I bet you they could make some money with that if they wanted to go to the trouble. But that, I believe, is the best way to make worthwhile for them

exhibiting the classic stuff they've gotten in the warehouse. house. And you know, I really do wonder if there was a Hall of Fame somewhere, even if it wasn't in Connecticut. Considering the modern fans and the modern spending habits, maybe you would get fans there every day. You know, going through the exhibits and doing whatever you do. I mean, the Baseball Hall of Fame, I get baseball and football and basketball are different

than wrestling, but still, W.W.E.'s fan base? Their dedicated nature and spending? I really wonder. Well, and now there is the... there's a Hall of Fame in the building in Albany. The old building in Albany, New York, there's a wrestling hall of fame there now, but it's part of the,

it's an ongoing concern as an arena, and it's in a part of that arena. So it's not like they're having to stand alone. Again, that's the thing is, I just, I don't know, of a local they tried the Hall of Fame in Texas boy that you know

need we go there again hello Johnny Mantel wherever you are but I don't know that there's any one location right now that's perfect that could support

a wrestling Hall of Fame that's also a vacation if it's Las Vegas and that's just one of the 20 Blue million attractions they've got or whatever and it might get lost in the shuffle but if it wasn't in a big enough place then it wouldn't get the the traffic Memphis you know as part of the you know overall barbecue and Beale street type of culture maybe um but it's hard to find to do anything but

the 40 years of history of wrestling, you know, then you've got to go back in the territories, and then a lot of the people that are still alive didn't grow up watching these people as kids because they weren't there. Well, again, I'm not even talking about a proper wrestling hall of fame. That'll never happen. But for a WWE Hall of Fame,

if you made it a truly immersive experience, I don't see why it couldn't do as well as a rock and roll hall of fame. I mean, I don't know if they make any money, but they had a lot of money behind them to build that facility in Cleveland. Yeah, but there's a lot more rich people that either got rich because of rock and roll or are rich and like rock and roll

than there is, change that for wrestling. All right, well, that's Olivia Newsie from her new book, American Canto. American Canto? The L.A. Times book review, the headline is, yes, we give you permission to hate read,

American canto. That's the fucking review. We give you permission. I hate reading. That's how unlikable this person may be. Jim, I thought of a question. And apparently she can do every single guy that she comes in contact with. I don't know about any autograph signings.

We'll see what we can find out. Does she wash her hands first? Just what you're saying? Jim, wanted to ask you about a recent quote I saw attributed to CM Punk. I thought it was an interesting concept and idea. I wanted to get your thoughts. The idea that the modern WWE, the post-V-McMickman, WWE, the world champion is not paid more than other wrestlers.

Any thoughts on that? The idea that the world champion would no longer be paid any differently than he would have before he was the champion. Well, okay, well, now, in what context was this? Do you have context on Punk's quote? or do you have an exact quote? Let me see what I can find. Let me see what I can find.

Because here's the thing is that in some cases, especially in modern times with the advent of contracts, you might goddamn end up with a guy that you're doing a short-term title run with that is not paid at the level of other guys and shouldn't be, but you see what I'm saying one of those fucking switcheroo deals so I'm not sure how the because there's there's no standard rule of thumb but one would assume that if a guy is an established main event level guy that he's got a contract comparable in the top group that if they're bouncing the belt back and forth you know over the course of the year and

they're all making within the same range. That ought to be understood. But if you're suddenly taking a guy that, you know, maybe isn't making in the top group level, but he's in the top group and people are coming to see him and he's selling the shit and hitting the metrics, it's time for him to renegotiate.

See, I don't know where we're coming with this. All right, I have a quote here. This is from the mostly sports podcast. CM Punk said The business has radically changed It was a different place when I signed Than when I debuted And then when I came back

Like it's such a radically different place The thing with the title too Is also it means you made more money That does not exist anymore Like good and bad Like we all make more money now Which is thumbs up My paycheck was always predicated

on how many people were in the building. So I was driven towards ticket sales and the business of it. And when you're in the main events, you got paid more money. Now everyone is just kind of on salary. And that's good and bad. It's good for the boys,

but I also feel there's not the same ambition. You know? I always wanted to be in the main event because it got me more money. Now I don't care if I'm in the opening match because I'm still going to make the same. I could shower and watch the show now.

So what are your thoughts on? Okay, now that makes sense. I see what he's talking about, the question that he was asked. And we've talked about that here on the show. I mean, in primitive terms, remember when we had WCW1990 discussions. Well, you know, a guy like zinc, he's making his $150 grand. It's $3,000 a week, right? regardless of what the fuck.

So we got to do something with him. And also the guys started not showing up for, I got a malignant hangnail or whatever. The guarantees kind of killed some momentum. In Punk's first run, he is correct in that when he was champion, he was making more money than everybody else because he was on a contract that guaranteed him a minimum,

but guys put in that position during that time made well over the minimum amount they were guaranteed. That's why everybody wanted to be in that position. A lot of it was the house shows. If he's in Madison Square Garden, he's getting 15, 20 grand one night on, you know, fucking Thursday or whatever. So that scaling for that time,

you know, he was at, at what, one time one of the top paid guys, whoever this antithesis was, may have been making as much because they were featured in the main events and the pay-per-views and blah, blah, blah. But now, as we've seen, there are no house shows.

You ain't just getting an extra of 20 grand on fucking Thursday to show up at the garden or whatever it may be. And it's all TV rights money, and the guarantees are just for, we're going to give you 3 million, dollars and do whatever the fuck we want you to do but you've got to set

number of dates and all these other parameters and they couldn't possibly you couldn't make a living for the you know if you were Brock Lester and not being paid a lot of guaranteed

money you could make a living on showing your face five times a year right so now they're locked into contracts where they try to they try to keep

the guys they're paying a lot of money to and have a lot of investment in, they try to keep them both busy and valuable, meaning don't overwork them and they get hurt and then it's fucked up, but, and let's not make them do too much yet

because we're going to sell a million dollars worth of merchandise and blah, blah, blah. But if somebody comes along and that they see like brawn breaker i don't know if they already have renegotiated they will be renegotiating probably or whoever goes from it may have happened for j uso or maybe they're just heartless cruel fucking scrooge-like overlords but when a guy suddenly breaks out and gets popular and you're using him in a main event he sell a lot of merchandise you're generally for the sake of keeping the

guy happy and motivated, you're like, hey, let me do something else for you, or whatever. Both of those things are true. It's just different errors. That CM Punk's thought on the current pay, you know, in the past, all sports, during the off-season, wrestlers had to get a, or even not just wrestlers, but baseball players, football players, they had to get other jobs. Other jobs. Now, there's some game. employment. That's right. Some even started their own business. Just imagine if Yogi Berra had had Shopify all those years ago when he was out there pitching Yuhu. Imagine what he could have done just what our listeners can do with Shopify. What was he pitching Wu with Yoohooos? What were you

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slash cornet. All right, a surprise ending there. You didn't expect that. We are back. We never thought that would happen. Jim, speaking of surprises, yes. You surprised a lot of the listeners

and a lot of them are very happy about the news that you were going to watch and review Netflix's four-part documentary on Diddy, Sean Combs, formerly known as Puff Daddy, and Puffy and lots of other things. And P. Diddy.

P. Diddy. Love. I think at one point he actually changed his name to love, which is just crazy, considering what he was doing at his private life at the exact same time. Well, his name was on everybody's lips. Jim, what did you think? What did you see and what did you think? What did you see, ma'am? Just the facts.

Now, what did you see when the car came careening around the corner at the orphan school children crossing the road? Now, you teased me with the Diddy Doc because I wanted to know about Diddy? Did he do it? What did he do? And if he did indeed do the things that he did, then how did he do them? And all these type of things. And I went in with no preconceived notions, because I know this may be hard for some people out there to believe,

but I didn't know who any of these goddamn people were. I don't know anything about fucking Diddy. I didn't know about 50 cent. I knew about 3.50, but that's the last time I saw the Lock Nest Monster. Okay, listen, 50 Cent was the producer, an executive producer of the documentary. I know, but see, when you were talking about that 50 Cent has a grudge against Diddy for all the things that Diddy may do. So he's produced this.

So I don't know if this is biased or not, but I didn't know him. I didn't know them. I didn't know. I still, after watching, and it took me a couple nights, because I got to be honest, by the time I get a chance to actually pay attention to something, it's now on the 9 o'clock,

and I went sleep on a couple of them had to re-back, rewind the next day and go back, but I got through all four. I still don't know why he's made this much fucking money, or why people give a shit about his fucking thoughts on fashion, or why he should have a goddamn clothing, or a line of anything except a line of bullshit. That's the kind of line I think he's been

probably proffering for the better part of his life. And it's like Vince, he starts out as a social climber, as Aunt Lola might have said. And back of the old days, he always was, want to be around the important people and do the important thing, the people do and make all this money

and then when he got to money he became complete goddamn maniac had no fucking moral compass no goddamn restraint whatsoever and just because people continued to give him hundreds of millions of dollars he would buy his way

out of all of the goddamn trouble that he got in in his social circle of other less than stellar moral individuals who were all congregating around him. That was my takeaway from the whole thing, Brian, but what did you think? That was highly profound and also probably correct.

Again, there was a lot to take in, a lot about things that he did in the past. They litigated the murder of Tupac and the murder of Biggie, and a lot of people are now pointing the finger directly at him. the guy who apparently told the gang, I'll give you a million dollars if you kill this guy and this guy. Yeah, you know, that's not suspicious now. But again, it's a... Even when I made threats to goofball,

I didn't name the exact amount of money, only in private, but nevertheless. Well, again, there was that, there was the... You know, again, it's so long ago in the early 90s, what was it, 91, the city college riot and the deaths of... Was nine people? Geez, I forgot all about the details.

I knew nothing about this. But he promotes the concert where they, and he over-promoted it. So they had too many people for the building, and they just all tried to burst into these and crushed each other. Yeah, and it wasn't even a concert. It was a celebrity basketball game.

It was a hip-hop basketball game. Because why wouldn't it be? But somehow he makes this, you know, a goddamn must-see event where we're going to run in frantically. You got to give him credit for being a promoter, but then he took, that was the start of the pattern, right? He took no responsibility and tried to duck and dodge and start blaming other people or deflecting or whatever, which is kind of, that was,

they interview his best friends and the people he started. at his record company with who looked like they've been homeless living under a bridge for years because he screwed all of them they had nobody's ever heard of them they ain't got no money and because he betrayed them in some fashion or another right

I mean a court stenographer couldn't have kept track of all of these various transgressions so I'm trying to remember from memory but they got how did they get the footage they got he had a camera crew with him when he was about to be arrested he's on the phone talking to his lawyer and the lawyer's on a speaker phone there's video of this how did they get the video from the videographer did he fuck the videographer around I don't know for certain, but what I had heard was that potentially he was paying a videographer or he had hired a videographer to take all this footage or make all this footage because he

was planning something. And again, you say right before he was arrested, the day before in the hotel in New York when he was planning on turning himself in, apparently that guy may not have been paid. and then he may have sold that footage to 50 cent and then 50 cent who happens to be the executive producer of this thing see I knew we got back to 50 cents some kind of way at a minimum the production of this documentary got this from the actual videographer I believe

but the point is is that he was almost like the rap version of John Gotti right the Teflon Don where he's been involved in so many various things, but yet he would slip it or, you know, slide out of, out from under it or blame somebody else.

Who was the one guy that went to jail for 10 years? Said, no, I shot him. Oh, Shine. Yeah. Oh, Shine. Yeah, well, everybody remember Shine. He used to have such a bright personality. But apparently he, he took the bump, as they say,

for old Diddy. Because of the, there's witnesses, saying that did he shot the guy? And then, I mean, this didn't delve into, from all of the shit we heard in the court case that just concluded, this had interviews with a variety of women, but it didn't delve just into the whole baby oil debate and et cetera and what was going on there,

but it was just, it was part of the overall thing. as many heinous things as he had done to his girlfriends, as I said, all of his ex-confidants are either dead in prison or look like bums off the fucking street. He's just destroyed everybody in his goddamn periphery. What did you think of like seeing the childhood photos of him? Because they had his childhood best friend in the documentary,

and of course, they fell out. And he's dressed at. like a little gangster at times, right? Like the mom is dressing him like a little Harlem gangster. It's kind of incredible. Well, because they said

the mom is suspect too and probably one of those social climbers may be. And they said that his childhood was bizarre and abusive and or mentally or physically

or both, whatever. And you know so he had no idea of what the fuck he ought to be doing to begin with when he's a kid and then he immediately sort of like a Heyman he started trying to promote shit

did I go to sleep on one part of it or basically he started promoting the shit and producing the music and being the business mind and then started performing, right? Yeah, the way it worked was...

Did I nod off on something? No, that's kind of the way it went. They didn't really go into detail, like with him and Andre Harrell, like how he went from intern to living with the guy to, you know, I'm going to be head of A&R, and then he leaves with Biggie. They didn't really go into like the real nuts and bolts on that. More nuts than bolts? But he had Biggie, and he was, you know, I know you didn't

watch those videos, he was all over those fucking videos. Like, it would be biggie, but it was all about this guy. If he wasn't dancing, he was driving. Like, you know, he was, like, mouthing the words as much as the rappers sometimes. So what was he the George Goulas of the whole production? No, because George wasn't the promoter. George would have to be the promoter, too, to really get that going. Like, imagine when Hulk Hogan was playing guitar in the 80s,

that Vince McMahon was behind him on drums. It just doesn't work. It just didn't happen. And Biggie gets killed and right around that same period of time. Because I remember, because Oasis would have had the number one album with Be Here Now. It's not their greatest album, although I like the songs. But it was going to number one.

And then Biggie got killed. And then Puffy's new album came out, which was him and the family. And, you know, that's when they had Sting with him and everything. And it became all about him. And I never thought he was really good. But a lot of people went with it. Now people are admitting it. That one guy who wrote his lyrics really made fun of his rap.

He made him sound like Kermit the Frog rapping. But people went along with it and went along with the whole like puffy thing. I remember when people started wearing Sean John stuff. I'm like, what are you embracing? What are you endorsing here? Why? Well, he seems like a real pip. And now he's going to have, how long, much longer he's locked up in Lompoc or somewhere.

for the four years or so is he got? I don't know. I want to say he gets out in a few years. They extended it a little bit because apparently, according to the news reports, they caught him with like some kind of prison vodka or something.

What was it? Brewed in her very own toilet. Yeah, I don't know how or why or from where. So wait a minute. Okay, hold on here a second. Now you're going to have to have me look. This is a review of the documentary. Come on.

While you Google that, hold on. me just make this commentary about the prison vodka. This motherfucker's been worth a billion dollars, and he's been drinking all his goddamn highfalutin, the Perrier and the dumb Perignon, and the, what's the kind that old Quentin Tarantino likes? The special champagne that he likes,

or the cognac or the caviar, or whatever the fuck. He's used to, and he's been in jail like a fucking, a year, maybe and he's reduced to drinking vodka out of the toilet? I didn't say that. You're assuming it's toilet vodka.

I just said some kind of person. I said some kind of. Cristal. He thinks it's Christal. He was used to crystal. And in a year, he's sunk to drinking toilet vodka. I have an article here from, there's a plane going down somewhere. I have an article here from Deadline by Dominic Patton.

This is November 18th, so a few weeks ago. Diddy's bad week, prison time extended. L.A. Sheriff's Office opens probe into sexual battery of producer. And that was actually another guy. Wait a minute, he sexually battered a producer in prison over a toilet vodka? No, I think he's a two separate things. Now, this story is getting bigger and bigger. This was the producer in the documentary in like the, maybe it was in part three or part four.

This was the producer that just a few years ago, I woke up and said he felt sore. He didn't know what happened. well god damn i was waiting for you to narrow it down a little more ever we all been there i i wake up feel sore almost every morning these days i just thought it was the cold weather i didn't know i was getting dicked by ditty in the dark of the night well this article's uh very wordy for i'm just looking for a simple answer on the just a simple answer on the toilet vodka and the the assault of the producer in the shower of the president thank you google here's an AI overview.

Yes, Sean Diddy Combs' prison release date was recently extended by about a month. From May 8th, 2028 to June 4th, 2028, reportedly due to rule violations

at Fort Dix. A said Dix. Of all places to send him. Rule violation at Fort Dix. Leave the money on the nightstand, no, rule violations at Fort Dix,

including alleged homemade alcohol consumption. Ah. And unauthorized phone calls, despite his denials and enrollment. Wait, how can you make an unauthorized phone call from fucking jail?

Don't they have to let you use the phone? You get a phone. How do you get a fucking phone in jail? You can get any in jail. And how can it... But, no, I'm saying... you can't have a phone in jail, so therefore you shouldn't be able to make unauthorized phone calls.

But if you can get a phone in jail, they wouldn't be unauthorized phone calls. They'd just be phone calls. Because if you're not supposed to have a phone in jail, you're not supposed to be making any goddamn calls, right? You're not supposed to have a cell phone on you or a smartphone. No, that's against the rules. Well, then, God damn it.

Well, how is this shit happening? Sounds like they need to crack down. Well, he's serving a 50-month sentence currently after being convicted of prostitution-related charges in the summer of 2025. He receives credit for time served since his September 2024 arrest. And... Well, that's just a year. He could do that standing on his head. Potential for future reductions, Combs' participation in a drug treatment program could potentially earn him up to 12 months of office sentence. excuse me, as noted by CBS News.

What does that mean? Then in that case, they experiment with drugs on him, and if he survives, they'll let him out early? Like, you know, cancer cures and shit, they inject in him. He's kind of like a guinea pig. It's kind of like doing a defensive driving class in prison, but, you know, you don't get points off your license, you get time off your sentence. Well, fuck him. That's what he's in prison for to be rehabilitated.

They ought to keep him every single goddamn day of that, so that they're not. they can do more rehabilitation, Aitin. All right, well, we will, well, I guess we'll go back to the review. So where did he assault, where do you assault the producer? In Florida, wasn't it? Well, what's he doing in Florida? He's in prison.

It wasn't now. It was then. Well, in that case, why is this producer in prison two different places with Puff Daddy? You're not making any sense. Again, you watch the documentary, according to you, and Lil Rod, was one of the people in the documentary. He was the producer.

Lil Rod. Don't send him to Fort Dix, whatever you do. Lil Rod made some accusations in the documentary, and of course there are, I guess, some legal proceedings behind that, that while working for Diddy, things got a bit weird.

They got a bit Diddy. So this was beforehand. He didn't do this in prison. So he confused me earlier. Yeah. No, it didn't happen. while in prison. That would be another rules violation. They may add another month for that.

So, so, Rod got dittied by ditty before the ditty went away. Did you not see Rod? Where did you give up in the documentary? I don't know, I've nodded off on some, but I don't remember Rod's, Rod's name, but maybe it was, you know, I nodded off. Any other, what did you think about the discussion on the

death of Tupac and Biggie? Well, I, it seems to me. that, you know, he's guilty, but he's covered his tracks well, apparently, if they're not trying to get, if they got him on what they got him on and didn't have any way to get him on this stuff, then they ain't got getting material. But it seems like it's one of those, a lot of people saying it, when they put the pieces together, it works out well that every time that he has an issue with somebody, they went north.

The most fascinating thing is going to be when he gets out how he's going to try to babyface himself. Because you know he's not going away, you know he's not giving up, you know he's going to be out for revenge. How is he going to babyface himself to the public after all this?

Because he's going to try. There's no way you won't try. How old of a person is he now? He's got to be in his 50s. Hold on. Can you see it? when he's 70-something, he's trying to go out there and being like, like poor Smokey Robinson. 56. Oh, my God. Someone just sent us a clip because we talked about him. And it was, I guess, a recent concert, recent-ish concert.

And someone near the stage was filming on their phone. And it was just him gyrating his hips and everything. And he's an old man now when he's doing it and thinking, oh, this is the guy chasing the mechanic around in his underwear. Well, that's going to be, that's going to be old. did he here in 25 years. He's going to be 80 years old. And he's going to have a surgically reconstructed melting face.

And he's going to be fucking breathing heavy on fucking records. Well, we will see what happens. Again, you know, it's interesting. I'll say this too. For all the rightful criticism that all the record producers or really record company

record company heads, executives get for ripping off artists in the 50s. It didn't start there, but that's really where people start focusing on it. The 60s and people learn their lesson eventually, but it still happened. Whether it's a bad guy like Morris Levy or someone who was revered like Ahmed Erdogan, a lot of these guys stole writing credits or had people sign away rights when they had no idea what they were doing. Diddy was worse than all of them

when it comes to just that, when it comes to ripping off artists who made him, because again, he sucks musically. You can't get away from that. He had talented people. Mace. Mace just vanished.

That guy was like the sound of the Diddy songs, and then he was gone. Like he left the business. He went into religion. That one girl was quoted as saying, oh yeah, it was a horrible contractor. The lawyer said he's selling you fame, not fortune, and I signed it anyway. He was the Jack Pfeffer of the music business.

He was taking a piece of everybody's money. How do you think the public's going to react to him when he gets out? I mean, there's always somebody that's going to be the fan of the big music star or the fashion icon that he is. or whatever his latest, you know, the vodka, whichever thing he was fucking selling. There's always going to be, but for the general public,

I don't know that anybody's going to really think of him that fondly, and not a lot more people are going to be hopping on his bandwagon. It's going to be, I mean, was Michael Jackson still making new fans at the end? He didn't, you know, in any way, have the various issues this fucking creep has had and he was actually a goddamn insane talent

but he was kind of before he even died until he died he was kind of like we don't want to be around michael anymore right i mean i felt like that but they were always crazy michael jackson fans but there were always a michael jackson fans but it weren't like a bunch more new ones were being made every day no no one was like hey let me go get behind that multiple time accused child molester. Yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't like, you know, people suddenly making the decision. You know, I'd never really cared for Michael Jackson's music, but son of a bitch, if it's not starting to grow on me.

So I think Diddy is as big as Diddy's ever going to be again. It's going to, there's still going to be some, but it's not like he's going to have some giant new phase of his career after all this shit. So how do you grade the documentary on Netflix? the exact name I forget, but it's something related to Diddy about Diddy. Something related to Diddy and I, no, I enjoyed it. He's a very scummy person who deserves to have people talking badly about it. So I enjoy when that happens.

And because it relates to wrestling, how was your Netflix experience watching it? Oh, it sucked also because it kicked off. While I said I nodded off on several different points of it, it also kicked off, and I had to go back and restart the whole thing from scratch about three times to watch four episodes. So yeah, I hate the streaming TV, too. All right, well, this has been Jim's review. Next week, Monster Squad here on the show, right? Yeah, come on.

I'm trying to get a commitment out of you. Next week, the King of Kong. Maybe over Christmas. Over Christmas, me. All right. Well, you know, Jim, Diddy will get out. And there are also sounds that need to get out. And where they can go-

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wanted to ask your thoughts on something I saw that you retweeted from Arena Mexico Neon who we recently saw a AEW. Was that where that was from? Was that who that was? Yes, it was who. I hate to laugh because the guy's clearly fucked up now. He got pulled out of the Continental Classic or whatever he was going to be in it with AEW.

He did a move that I saw someone described as his signature move. I hate to laugh. I hate to laugh. It's so funny. He, I'll let you describe it. God damn. It's like somebody watching somebody take a big wet shit and say that's their signature shit.

They're known for that one. Okay, I didn't. Somebody on Twitter tweeted a 10-second clip of a match somewhere. It appeared. Obviously, I knew it. was in Mexico because there was Spanish words on a screen. But otherwise, I didn't know what promotion. I didn't know what guy.

It was just like this 10 seconds of this guy doing a run-in on a match and his, the results of same. The guy runs down the entry ramp or whatever. And instead of, it looks like he's coming down to make a save or help somebody else. or whatever. But instead of actually going into the ring, he jumps up onto the top rope and then is going to leap to the other top rope

and then dive off onto a guy on the other side of the fucking ring to the right hand of where he's coming out. So he could actually just goddamn jumped off the fucking ramp, run around the ring post and punched him in the face. But as he jumps to the first rope, it's fine. And then he jumps to the second rope and starts to turn.

And the second rope wasn't fine. And he just dives with his arms outstretched, head first to the ground past the guy that he was going to dive on and fell in a fucking heap. And then the video that was tweeted was clipped because that was like seven or eight seconds. And then you see the ringside medical crew, I guess they've got, he's on a stretcher. And while the match in the ring is apparently still going on, they have put this guy on a stretcher and they're carrying him back up the same ramp he just came down. And on the screen that's playing their sponsors is a fucking Mexican medical clinic advertisement. I didn't even notice that. Is that what that was?

You didn't notice that? That's part of it. No, I did not notice that. And so now we find that it's neon. He and Leon used to be a hell of a team. It's neon and he's out of the Continental Classic. Who was the guy that came out and did the big return and did a run-in and a promotion here not too long ago?

about. His big return was jumping to the top rope and falling off of it. Who was that? And for the record, I think I was wrong. He's not in the Continental Classic, but CML is put out of press release saying he's pulled from all these future dates.

You were talking about Bandito, and I think it was Ring of Honor where he made his big return, and he... Oh, that's right, his big return and bam, and his big fucking and they carried him out. Remember L.P. Diaz on 605, the guy who hit a flip onto the floor, landed on his head, and then the children and just ringside attendants all got together and, like, just carried him and dragged him out

of the building. I mean, I hope Neon's okay, obviously. Well, yeah, but why was that for him to do that thing, that important? If the story of their match was going to, he was going to come out and help somebody or interfere in some kind of way or whatever. I assume he's a baby face. I believe so. That is his signature double jump moonsault to the outside.

So he's done it before, never missed. Again, if you watch it back, you see his foot miss. I guess the second mini jump, whatever you want to say. And then that triggered the whole thing. If that's his signature move, he's going to need to change his name, isn't he? CMLL informs the fans that due to the injury suffered by Neon, During the event held last Friday, December 5th at Arena, Mexico, El Asteroid del Ring will not be able to participate

in his scheduled commitments on the following dates. And the asteroid of the ring. I like that. Brian, but that's cool, but when you think about it, what does an asteroid do? It becomes a fireball on re-entry and then crashes and burns. Oh, God. Oh, well, he won't be at Arena Pueblo on the 8th or Arena Coliseo in Guadalajara on the 9th.

He won't be in Toluca on the 10th. And next Friday... What about Toluca Lake! He won't be in Arena Mexico next Friday. We appreciate the public's understanding and we send our best wishes to Neon for speedy recovery. Any final thoughts on the neon injury? Well, yeah, I did. Should I say that neon wasn't too bright?

He had a flickering moment of fame, but then his switch was turned off in a twinkling of an eye. Well, get well soon. Neon. Sorry about you're not appearing in the Continental Classic. That was my mistake. He shall be neon.

Jim, on the topic of mistakes, I want to make a correction for something I said on a recent show. I said that the first Survivor series where Jesse Ventura and Gorilla Monsoon got monster pops coming out. I said it was at the Rosemont Horizon. That was incorrect.

It was in Richfield, Ohio. So I apologize. The Richfield Coliseum in Richfield, Ohio. Richfield, Rosemont. It happens all the time. Tomato. Fuck, fuk. Well, again, I apologize for any confusion.

My mistake. Well, you fukes. up. Jim, any thoughts on the Rock? Receiving a Golden Globe nomination? Oh, you mean Dwayne? I thought you had any thoughts on the Rock? Which one?

One out in the front yard or the one out in the backyard. Dwayne Johnson has received a nomination for Best Male Actor in a Motion Picture Drama that no one paid to see from the Golden Globes. He's up for the Golden Globes best male actor for a drama. Boy, is this? Is this one of those deals where one of those fine, you know, Shakespearean type actors, you know, toils away at obscurity in motion pictures that nobody sees,

while at the same time, you know, there's chill wills and Andy Devine are in the biggest box office hits in the country and just everybody's watching them on a weekly basis? is Dwayne, even though nobody wanted to see that movie, is he finally going to get his due as a big time actor, fella? All that makeup. That's what you're... All that makeup.

He's bore us Carloth. He's unrecognizable as the smashing machine. No, it's completely recognizable who the fuck the smashing machine is this movie. He's unrecognizable as a human being. With that, but no, maybe he, instead of, instead of Boris Karloff, could he be Lon shamey? Maybe so. No, you see, it's just you don't like the rock, but now all these other Golden Globe people,

they're all getting together and they're trying to recognize the rock as being a sensational actor that he is and the biggest talent in the world because. they're all scared that all these big conglomerations are going to put them all out of business and then they're going to have to come begging him for money because he's hooked up with the fucking big movers and shakers like Nick Conn and et cetera. And so they're sucking up to him and they're giving him these awards for his golden brass balls or globes. Can I make a prediction? What's the prediction?

He's going to win it. Well, yes. I think the campaign is on. I think if there's anyone that's going to give Dwayne Johnson an award, it's the fucking Hollywood foreign press. That's exactly who he fucking markets himself and pushes himself to.

I think he'll win the award and I think he'll have no chance in hell at an Oscar. That's what I... This is kind of like the FIFA, the FIFA Peace Prize. Yeah, the Brifax. new Peace Prize from soccer. Yeah, you know, because this guy's got a lot of money.

He might be able to help us out. Let's give him a fucking award. It's the same principle. I never thought much of the Golden Gloves. But no, in all seriousness, if, is it the old art over commerce, the movie bombed?

It didn't, you know, do anywhere near what it cost not only to make but to market. But if, you know, if they can somehow present Dwayne with something, it'll be better for him when he gets back into the Fast and the Furious 17 or whatever the fuck is going to make $550 million. You think he ever gets juiced up again? Like big juiced up?

Well, he's getting old for that. Not that he can't do it, but that he shouldn't do it. So I don't know at this point if he needs to or if he can just be, because he's still bigger than all of these Hollywood actors are diminutive when you actually get them next to normal size people. Or maybe I'm just skewed because I've spent the past 50 years of my life around larger than normal size people. But I don't think he needs to be Conan anymore.

I think he could get by with just being. Dwayne Johnson in shape. All right. Well, congratulations, Jwayne Johnson, and good luck. You don't mean that. I do mean that. You know you don't. Honestly, I don't give a shit about any of the movies at this thing, so yeah, I mean that. Good luck.

What's his competition? Do we know? The guy who plays Springsteen is a good actor. I liked him on Shameless, and apparently the other show he does now is really good. I just haven't seen it. He's the one who played Kerry von Erick. You know, if Carrie Van Erick was five, foot five.

Oh, good. I mean, you know, he's Springsteen now. Well, who's a smaller guy to? But, you know, yeah, I think Dwayne Johnson will win. I really do. I think the campaign is on, I think. Well, that's what I've said. Who's he up against? Does it say what the field of competition

is? Hold on. We'll end with that. For this prestigious award, do they get a leg lamp? To display in their front window, whoever the winner is. You get a trophy and all the memories that go with it. I think you can put in the aura frame. Jim, best performance by a male actor and a motion picture. Drama.

The nominees are Dwayne Johnson, Smashing Machine. Jeremy Allen White, Springsteen, Deliver Me From Nowhere, A.K.A. So, wait, wait. His movie has an AKA already? No, no, no, I added that. I added that.

But this is the guy that was Kerry because Jeremy Allen White, I got no idea. But this is the guy that was Carrie in the claw. Carrie Vyric, yes. Joel Edgerton, trained dreams. Joel Edgerton, train dreams. Have you ever heard of this guy or this movie? By name, I'm not familiar with him. I've not heard of this movie.

I don't know if I've seen him in anything else. So yeah, I've not heard of him, no. I guess. No, no. Okay. Yeah. That pretty much covers everything. Michael B. Jordan sinners.

What, okay. He's a good actor. Michael Jordan, the basketball player. No, no, no. Man, the episode of Sinfell my favorite line was on last night. Man, that Michael Jordan, he's so phony. No, this is Michael B. Jordan, who, when he was a kid, was on the wire. Oh, I thought there was Michael Basketball Jordan.

No, this is the actor. He was in Creed. Also, two more nominees. Oscar Isaac Frankenstein. Was he Frankenstein? I didn't know they did Frankenstein. Have they done Frankenstein again? I believe he was Dr. Frankenstein.

I will click on this to get more information in the final. so he was Colin Kly the final nominee Wagner Oh come on now for the secret agent Jim NXD name or porn star Wagner Mora

for the secret agent He must have been a secret agent Because nobody's ever heard of him Who the fuck are these people There's no Mickey Rooney's There's no goddamn names We need names names Vincenzo.

This is jibberish. Jim, I have info here? No wonder Dwayne's getting the night. Well, just no wonder Dwayne's, at least somebody's heard of him. Go ahead. Frankenstein is a 2025 American Gothic science fiction film produced, written, and directed by Guillermo del Toro, based on the 1818 novel by Mary Shelley.

It stars Oscar Isaac, we mentioned before, as Victor Frankenstein, and Jacob Elardi as the creature, with Mia Gough and Christopher Waltz in supporting roles. The story follows the life of Frankenstein, an egotistical scientist whose experiment in creating new life results in dangerous consequences. I believe we're familiar with the synopsis of the plot, Brian. What are your thought?

Are you interested in seeing a modern take? a hundred years, almost 100 years after the classic? Are you interested in seeing what you think? Well, I will give this a go. I'll give it a swing, but I'm just, I don't know who any of these people are. This is on Netflix, apparently. The film poster I'm seeing here says Netflix. Oh, boy.

See, they're trying to put the theaters out of business already. But I think Jwayne's going to win this. But they need names like John Garfield, for God's sake. That's the name you're going to use? All right. Well, they need somebody that people recognize. Well, let's get away from this.

No caridines, no Barry Moors. I don't know what's happening out there. Jim, we move on here with the show. Yes, what about a good song by Jenny Lind? I'm looking here at my notes of things that we have to talk about. Paramount! Paramount! The spoiler!

We put up a clip the other day talking about the news that had broken. Netflix to buy WBD pending approval. Then it came out that Paramount, who felt like a jilted lover, I guess, thought they were going to get it. Spurned. They're not giving up. They're launching a hostile takeover and offering $30 per share, I believe. And a blowjob.

There's no guarantees of that. But if you have enough shares, $30 a share, you may get one. What are your thoughts on the attempted hostile takeover? and the fact that the Netflix deal may not, and again, there are differences. Paramount wants to eat up the whole thing. Netflix is asking for various entities that are part of the film. They don't want those crummy TV networks,

those TNTs and TV, they just want the stuff that's making big money. But you know what, the sad state of affairs of this whole thing, it's paramount, it's not, if, if RKO pictures only, still existed, we could say RKO out of nowhere. See what I did there?

That is pretty good. I do miss the name RKO. It's such a good name for a company. For a movie studio. Yeah. Now people think of it as a wrestling move and it was been the perfect synergy but they couldn't stay in business. And they had the Tarzan franchise

at one point. And nevertheless. So Paramount said, fuck your $83 billion, we'll give you $108 billion. It's what they said, and they want the whole thing, just lock, stock, and barrel, clean out your drawers and be on your way. We're taking over.

And all of the Ellisons that are in with President Pig shit and his entire crime family, because before I was thinking, well, all Netflix has to do is just pay whatever the percentage is that the Trump family is going to want to rubber stamp this and they're in, but now they've got it an opponent that's even more in with asshole than they are because he's already approved their previous multi-billion dollar merger. So now Netflix is going to be, and do they still have to pay the $5 billion? is that they promised if it didn't come off or that's not their fault. They're trying to make it come off.

Yeah, but nevertheless, you know, Paramount has come in and said, no, we're going to give you more money, whether you like it or not, and we can get approved,

wink, wink, and they already have in the past got approved because they're all in the same business, being crooked together. So Netflix, is now net fucked, apparently. Well, it's going to come down now to the Board of Directors against the shareholders, it sounds like.

So it's going to be very interesting to see what happens here. You know, either way, it still goes back to the reason people we're talking about this when it relates to wrestling, AEW. Their footing is going to be unstable, whether they admit it or not. And it may eventually have to change completely. but this still isn't good. Just the idea that you're on a channel and you exist on that channel,

like you're grateful for it, and there aren't a lot of other homes for you. You know, it's a scary time, I would think, right now. Just it's so unstable. Some people said, well, at least Netflix, you know, we're always one of their top ten shows, and they would be biased or whatever toward it. But at least Paramount doesn't have it.

Paramount does more business with TKO than Netflix does. Paramount has the UFC. Paramount has the bull riding. Paramount has, what, they have a boxing business going now? TKO does. So that's a thing. There's two things to be look out for. Number one, any entity is going to want to have.

have the number one franchise in whatever if they want to be number one. And more importantly, they're going to go into somebody's going to go into a ton of debt. And of course, Paramount again, has the son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and Saudi money. So there's all kinds of resources available at their League of Super Criminals disposal to pour into this. but they're going to be in a ton of debt like they were when they bought the UFC.

When they started eliminating positions or whatever, or like any other major acquisition, they're going to look at all the deals, they're going to consider whether there's redundancies and whether they consider another brand of wrestling as a redundancy, but they're also going to see what to prefer. performances are. And Tony Kahn was given a $150 million or whatever deal for his performance when he was performing

a lot better than the latest performances. So it doesn't mean they're going to cancel him that week or find a loophole, but they're certainly not going to try to renew any kind of numbers like they've got now. With the WWE, they will accept the WWE as Netflix has, as some of these other things has, as a loss

leader to draw people into their overall goddamn thing. A.E.W. is not drawing a lot of people into their thing, much less the overall thing. Am I lying here, Brian? Again, there's an audience that believes there's this giant number of

max, but you brought up how Raw is always in the top 10 on Netflix, even if the numbers aren't great. You never hear that about AEW, that they're a top performing show on Max. Not only that, we constantly hear feedback from people who do use Max and can't find it.

It's not like they make it a priority or they make it easy to find. You have to search for AEW Dynamite on the home screen when it's on. And that's not good. It's not really a big priority. They've already said that sports haven't done good numbers on there. So then you say, well, AW is not sports, it's entertainment.

It's never in the top entertainment shows on Max. But we have to take them at their word that an audience bigger than what they had left to go to another service to start streaming it while it was also the worst and most boring time in the company history. Was that your question? What was your question? I can't remember. So I think you answered it.

Well, any final thoughts on it, you know. jump ball who's going to buy WBD? There's going to it's going to keep being fewer entities owning almost everything and not only is it going to squeeze out marginal players but it's also I mean there are legitimate big issues such as consolidation of the news media and whether we're going to be able to get the true stories from anybody anymore instead of just from everybody except Fox News and whose regulatory approval from the government depends on what nice things they say about the fucking piece of shit in the White House

until sanity returns and we get rid of this. But again, most multi-billionaires and people in charge of this type of thing, The Sinclair debacle is an example, are going to try to control what all of their various outlets are saying or thinking or leading people to believe or whatever. And none of these people need to be in the wrestling business. We all forget that sometime. Where's the program going to go?

It might just go home. Because it's too big now. It's not about local television or even a regional sport. Network with all this money and these massive conglomerates, not one of them is thinking, but I need to be in the wrestling business. If people watch it, they'll be in the projectile diarrhea business. But if people quit watching it and they're paying too much money for the shit, they'll drop the shit.

So we all need to watch out for that. Well, Jim, before we move on, I want to mention us breaking news. silver prices, smash a new record outpacing gold. The precious metal has more than doubled in value since the start of the year, rising above $60 per troy ounce on New York's commodity exchange on Tuesday for the first time ever. Jesus, that is, it was $40 an ounce back in the silver craze of the late 70s when I cleaned up. So even adjusted for inflation, I did a better, I did better then than than I would today. But that's... That's a lot of money for silver.

You know why? Because all those TV commercials trying to scare all these poor fucking old people and oh, God damn, the world's going to collapse and I'm going to need my gold and silver. I can feel it, I can touch it. It's here when all the money's worthless. You think an 86-year-old woman from Scranton, Pennsylvania

is going to be able to survive in a post-apocalyptic world solely because she has silver to barter with. If it comes to a point where we are bartering with silver in the United States of America, then they're going to take that fucking silver from that 86-year-old woman and cut her head off with a goddamn sword.

So how would an 86-year-old woman in Scrant, Pennsylvania, Brian, know who to barter with? Shit! The local government has fallen, and there's no law enforcement. They've all run for the hills. and shit's burning. So I need to call Claude,

my food guy, and offer him some silver. Does that answer your question? Well, I guess my point was going to be whether it's silver and the modern silver airs out there, or if it's the many people bidding for WBD, everyone's looking for a prize, and everyone has a pick,

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All right, Jim. That sounded like you could only reach one end of the keyboard. I'm over here now, and those are the sounds that tickle you so much, but we have more show, we have more things that talk about here. Hey, as a matter of fact, I've got a piece of breaking news here. This apparently happened this morning, but it's just been passed over my desk here by the Bureau. Have you heard about this, Brian?

the headline, Jeopardy Champion arrested on felony secret peeping charges. First of all, I didn't know secret peeping was a official title, but no, I've not heard about this story. And at first, I thought, well, they've arrested this, so much they found out he peaked at the answers. But apparently that's not it. It's not a felony to secretly peep at the answers on Jeopardy, but a Jeopardy Champion

Philip Joseph Joey Descena has reportedly been arrested in North Carolina on two charges of felony secret peeping DeCina appeared on the show back in November 2024 and won twice before departing.

He also took part in the Champions Wild Card Tournament walked away with $44,698 during his his irregular stint and then did not advance past the semifinals in the wildcard tournament. But he was taken into custody on December 1st, 2025. He's a development engineer from Raleigh, North Carolina. And according to the arrest warrant, he was accused of unlawfully, willfully, and

feloniously installing in a room any device that can be used to create a photographic image, namely camera placed in the bathroom with the intent to capture the image of another without their consent. The Chuck Berry, yeah. He pulled a Chuck Barry. He put a camera in the bathroom. There are certain wrestlers that may take money and send you those videos. I don't know why you have to go to such low depths to get that footage.

Well, it's part of the thrill. It's part of the kicks that these young people get with putting these fancy Dan cameras in the bathrooms. Committed this crime on October 10th, 2025. So apparently, if they've narrowed it down to the specific date, he got busted the first time he did it.

But a development engineer, he's too smart for his own good. Philonious peeping, Brian. That's crazy. And forever on his record, secret peeping, felonious secret peeping.

He will be known on his record forever as a secret peeper, which is not as good or as honorable as being a secret shop. How'd they catch him? Did they have to secretly peep on the secret people? They had a, they had a camera. They filmed him filming them. Yeah. I was looking back to see if I was looking back to see if you were looking back at me.

Yeah, they have the footage to prove that he has the footage. To prove that I don't know, was he taking footage of his inchage? Is it unfair for Jeopardy to be lumped in with this story now that we're talking about it? Yes. Well, that's what he's known for besides his secret peeping. Secret peeping and his development engineering. He's basically known for Jeopardy. But was this now a place of business?

Or was this like just his bathroom at home? where his fucking friend came over one day and say, wait a minute, how come you recorded me pissing? It says here, I just Googled that his favorite wrestler was Sean Stasiak. Hey! There was no pissing involved, just pissing and moaning. On that recording. Ladies and gentlemen, this has been...

He looks like a nice enough fellow. He doesn't look like a secret. Peeper. AEW fan from Asheville? What do you think? No, he looks so he's he's got a haircut and he's shaved. So I think he's a little too clean.

All right, ladies and gentlemen. All right. We will stay on top of the secret peep beep beep. I can't say it. You want to stay on top of the secret peeper? I think I'll give him plenty of room. We'll see what happens.

I want to make another correction here, ladies and gentlemen. The other day... What are you for you're fucking up constantly now? left and right. The other day I had a conversation, a text exchange with Stephen Pinoe, 87750 Steve, mentioned he was going to be in the New York area. I told him, watch the Seinfeld hour at 11 p.m. on Channel 11, and you could see every crazy legal commercial in New York. Spector and associate, every crazy law firm commercial you will see in that hour. I'm disappointed to say that they have removed the Seinfeld hour. At the time, it's

turns out it's now friends into Seinfeld for a half hour into another friends. I don't know why they did it like this, but I wanted to make that correction to Stephen Pino, a fine man, 87750, Steve. And if you call 87750, Steve, he will tell you how pissed he is that he had to sit there and suffer through a half an hour of friends just to get to the Seinfeld, because Seinfeld must feel like the meat in an idiot sandwich being shoved in in between there. You never like friends at all? I don't know why any of them like each other.

Have you ever given it? Have you ever watched an episode of Friends? I've said and watched it. I like Phoebe a bit because she's quirky and offbeat. But the rest of them, I think, are too nambi, pambi and goody for their own good. And I don't like them at all. I don't wish them well in their future endeavors. I don't have any sense of vicarious triumph

when they have some type of accomplishment or gain some milestone. I wish nothing but ill for them, and I hope that they have unhappy lives and broken marriages. All right, well, some of that has come true. But anyway, it's a funny show. It's actually very well written. Check it out some time.

Friends. Yeah, well, I've written it off. I've written it off. But it was the Seinfeld hour. I think Seinfeld was on at 11, even when it was on Channel 5. Like, this syndicated package has gone around New York a few times. Oh, yeah, this package has been around New York. It's been around like a carousel.

So it'll just let anybody have a hold of that package. A big change. Jim, on the topic of TV, we're going to end this week with something that may or may not work. It may or may not be good. We will see what happens. Well, there will not be a departure for this program, I'm looking forward to it because you've been telling me about this. This is something I have never heard of before in a media-related professional wrestling incident here.

Well, Jim, what we have here is something I'm completely fascinated by, and I wonder how familiar you are with any of this and what your thoughts are on it. It's from the People's Court in 1998. I had never seen this until recently. It's on YouTube. Harvey Levin has stole the host of the show. I don't know if he still does that. But it's featuring a wrestler who is kind of notorious in a sense up here, Boss Hog Calhoun.

Did you ever encounter the alleged grandson of Haystack Calhoun, who had no relation at all the Hastings, that's Calhoun? Did you ever encounter Boss Hog? I don't, I mean, he could have been in a building I was in, but I don't know that I've ever had the pleasure of meeting him or any personal interactions, but if you've got a freeze frame of this, it is a people's court show, and I've got a freeze frame of this character, I guess, he's the one on the left, correct? That is correct, yes.

Why is he, he's obviously 450 or 500 pounds, but why is he wearing a flower printed women's grandma dress. That's a dress, right? He's wearing a dress and his face is painted? That is a great question. And actually, that's one of the questions that Judge Koch asks right away.

Ed Koch was the judge at this point in time on the People's Court, Jim. Well, this fellow, Mr. Calhoun, is standing next to a guy wearing sunglasses, so he's probably an outlaw manager. That's crazy Don Rock. He's a New York

indie guy late 80s, maybe early 90s, I guess even here in the 1998. Well, there's another guy standing behind him wearing a fake Mark belt, a reproduction of some kind. You can't see it. It's obscured. And then apparently a troll who works at the Kebler cookie factory standing there. I don't know what she has no, no wrists. Her fingers are just coming out of the end of a pudgy arm. and her face looks like it was squashed in an industrial vice

and then pubic hair glued on top of so I don't know what's going on with these people but she will be introduced she'll be introduced to you throughout this and boss hog Calhoun was a guy who he would show up everywhere if John Orezzi did something he would be there if Vince Rousseau as vicious Vincent did something this guy would be there and it wasn't necessarily like he was selling anything

he just seemed like he wanted to tell people that he was the grandson of Haystack's Calhoun and that he was coming into the WWF to work with the Undertaker Oh Christ, Otter Cracker And it was almost believable when you were a kid because he's a gigantic, fat fucking guy Like, oh my God, what would the Undertaker do with this? Oh, he's got his own gravitational pull, no doubt about it.

Plus, you know, being the grandson of Hastacks Calhoun known for his Well, incredible... That means everything. That's right. So he had this bullshit story. He never went to WWF. I didn't know he was doing any of this. He showed it when the New York hotlines, the free hotlines were a thing. As Johnny Gimmick, the voice of wrestling. And he had a great voice for it. And then he vanished. But here we have the People's Court. We will start this audio. We will stop it along the way to review it. And let's get an idea of what this story is. That will do it for this case. We are going to change gears big time. You got to remember, these cases are absolutely real. Take a look.

This is the plaintiff, Titanic Tony. He contends he hired the defendant to help him fulfill his lifelong dream to become a professional wrestler. However, the huge, fast-talking wrestler did everything but train him. He was humiliated, subjected to beatings in the ring, and, forced to be the guy's flunky. He's suing for $600, the money he's out. Now let's stop it here for a moment. This is a new character being introduced into our production.

Titanic Tony. Suing for $600. Who has walked into the courtroom with a tied-died painted titonic, titanic Tony, Titanic Tony t-shirt on with sleeves cut out. He's an almost equivalently large fat fuck. with a face painted white sunglasses on, and for some reason,

the white beret worn by Sergeant-in-Arms, Nick Barrette of the Cult of Cornett Wrestling Integrity Watchers Club. So what in the hell is going on here? He's in gimmick. Is he the iceberg that the Titanic hit? Is Titanic Tony the iceberg? By the way, does that pass the name test Titanic Tony?

Yeah, for this guy? Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, again, it's important to note the people's court allegedly went to small claims court and would find people who were actually suing people and bring them in with the agreement that everyone will get paid and everyone will get on TV. Right. So as legitimate cases has started that way, but now this has been severely showbized up because these motherfuckers realize this may be the only time. they'll ever get on television. Let's go back to the footage from the People's Court in 1998. This is the defendant, Jack Martin, a professional wrestler, aka the Bahima. He points out he's a third-generation professional wrestler. His grandfather was Haystacks Calhoun.

His mother is known as Black Venus, and his uncle is Gorgeous George. He says he did everything possible to train the plaintiff, but the guy's ego got in the way. He had a gimmick before he even knew the basic moves. He's accused of putting a sleeper hold on a wrestler to be's dream. All right, let me stop a year for a moment. This guy, he's wearing a giant flowered print dress. He's all gimmicked up. He's got what looks like a fucking Barbie doll in his hand.

The other clowns is manager. This whole thing has been gimmicked up. It's as phony as a football bat. Go ahead. And this is Boss Hog Calhoun, who was now the bohemath. he said also what was it his grandmother was black venus and his godfather his uncle was gorgeous george his uncle was gorgeous george that's what it was let's go back to this the people's court with judge ed Koch the defendant has filed a countersuit for nine hundred dollars the balance due for the training

all parties please raise your right hands i had no training whatsoever you're on i hit the floor and i felt those if i was trained i would have known how to take the floor and I wouldn't have got hurt. This is the bumper, by the way, as they're showing video footage, you can keep it rolling, Brian, but as they show video footage going to the break of the guy in the dress in the ring in a parking lot kicking the fucking other fellow. Well, let's go back to this.

I'm going to go past the commercials here, at least I hope I did. Back to the people's court. Real, the litigants are not actors. In this case, they are real wrestlers locked in a legal war. The issue did the deal. Defendant and take advantage of a wannabe wrestler and shatter his dreams. It's the case of Titanic Tony versus the mighty behemoth.

The plaintiff is known as... That definition of real wrestler is the most generous one I've ever heard. Titanic Tony, is that correct? And you are suing the defendant for return of monies that you gave to him. Is that right? Mm-hmm. Yes. Will you please explain?

Okay, well, basically we got into an agreement on June 2nd that the... The Bohemoth was going to train me to be a professional wrestler. I gave him a deposit of $300 to show good faith and that I was very much interested in it. The training was supposed to start in July, was supposed to end in September. And in June, the end of June, I gave another $300 because I was very anxious to get it over with, you know, get my license and actually start. July came and went, no training took place. August came and went, no training took place.

Now, this was a life dream of mine. always wanted to do it. And I feel I gave him the money in good faith either. Well, did you have a conversation with him? Did you talk to him? Let me stop it for a moment. I just got to, not only is this guy just so preposterous looking visually, but now as I'm getting a shot of Ed Koch, he looks like Al Lewis on the set of the

Munsters. What the fuck with it? He's the most normal one here, and he looks like Grandpa Munster. When do we start the training? I have. I asked him in July. He came up with many excuses why. Tell me what they were.

Well, at one time it was his tooth had to be taken out, and he was in the hospital all morning. And so you were never the subject of training? No, sir. Not one day? Not one day. On June 13th. Yeah. Tell me when you trained him.

It was taken to a W-88 wrestling show in Connecticut. He started his training as a ballet, which would be a manager, start learning what we call psychology in the business. You have to learn how to act in front of a crowd. On June 13. Oh, good God. Let me stop it for a second. there. Obviously, it is important to learn psychology. What do you think when you hear someone who you had no idea who this person was and you were the person literally booking talent for the

WWF during this period of time in the Northeast? Yeah, well, no, that's the problem. Is it a bunch of these fucking guys? And it does, it's not just confined to one part of the country, but in all seriousness, we'll get back to making fun of this thing that's going on in front of us. Because these guys have set this up. They just want to get on TV. They've figured out some way to set this up because they're working already. They're not genuine. The guy that's complaining, if he took the pain off his face,

he'd look like any gopher Dennis Corleuze ever used on a show in New Jersey. But people convince these guys that they are someone, that I used to work under a mask, and they, in the days, especially where there was no internet and, you know,

you could just sway and easily, fucking lead guys mind around they got away with this just because they were a big fat fuck you'd think they were a wrestler and they could make people believe it and they'd take money and take off but these guys are working together on this I guarantee you go ahead

well let's see that's an interesting theory there let's see what happens I escorted him to a show at which time I escorted him to the ring I carried his bags and that was to the extent I sold his pitches and I took a beating outside the ring That's what it consisted of. What else?

Now, let me go back. Let me ask your question. The professional wrestling that we see on television, that's all phony baloney, right? Choregraphed. I do you word. Entertainment. Coregraph to the falls, the...

Entertainment. And entertainment. I get something so we can work again. If you like, Mr. Carr. Sports. It's entertainment. I understand that. Okay.

Now, you were going to train him to be able to take the Pratt Falls, as they say in show biz. Preckfold, punches, drop kicks. What do you think of the disrespect? Is that disrespectful the way Ed Koch is saying all that? Not to these people. Look at the sight of these people. They're so visually ridiculous.

You couldn't have... That's my problem with this kind of indie garbage. You can't have any respect for anybody that looks like this for doing anything. You understood that or not? Oh, yeah. No, I understood that fully, but it never happened. No, but you didn't think that. that wrestling was on the upper-up.

Oh, no, well, some, let's clarify, some things are real. You can't fake a head, you know, getting hit in the head with a chair. You can't fake jumping off a cage onto a desk. I mean, some stuff, it's a little bizarre, but when he picks you up and he spins you around. Is that what he wanted to be trained for?

Those are the examples he's using? No, you can't fake a broken ankle. You can't. And he steps on your head, all phoning. Right, exactly. Yes, sir. And it's agreed in advance who's going to win, who's going to lose? Well, I've never gotten that far.

It is agreed in advance to the promoter. Who wins and who loses? It counts on how popular you might be. So that was part of the training, wasn't it? I don't consider that training because at no time did anybody sit there and tell me what, you know, what was going to happen. They didn't tell you what to do? Right, exactly. I just sat there taking a beat me.

That's a lie. That's not a lie. It's the truth. What did you do? The lie is we stayed at a hotel three hours before the match on that night. He sat there with the four other wrestlers that were involved in the match. He was told what to do. I showed him how to take a punch, how to land over.

So when he throws a man for him, demonstrate for me. Gregory, Gregory's one of my other students. Demonstrate for me. He spreads himself a life. Oh, wait a Gregory comes in. He's not even a punch. And he's just standing there. Oh, good Lord.

He just took a bump in the middle of the court for a punch. He's got a real. Oh. Gregor, get up. This guy looks like a hundred-pound woman in a dress beating the shit out of this guy. On the people's court. It's bumps on the people's court. Why is he wearing a dress?

Do we ever get the answer to that from the judge? I believe he does ask that question. I believe so. Let me ask you something, Titanic Tony. Would you like him to do that to you? No, sir. No, sir. You don't want him to do that.

No, because he sprays himself with Lysol and I just say. with Lysol and I just can't deal with the odors, sir. But you knew that when you started with him. Excuse me? You knew that when you started with him. If you stand next to him, you must have smelled them. Well, in the beginning, no, I didn't, but then afterwards... Why, you don't have good noses?

No, anytime I saw him, we were like a distance, you know, away. It wasn't I was close. By the way, Ed Koch is popping the room. You look at the people behind there. They're all laughing at this. But I still, I'm more than Judge Judy. She would get more control over this. When did you first find out that he stinks?

The first time I went... The first time I escorted him to the ring June 13th. Okay. So at that point, you didn't want to be trained by him anymore? No, actually, I just did, I wanted to keep my distance. Well, how can you keep... Quiet! Quiet!

He wouldn't bathe. Quiet or I'm going to have him beat you up? We're here to say if he'd be. Train, a train him or not. Now, let me ask you something. Smelling that, there's nothing to do anything. If you couldn't stand next to him, how could he train you?

Training never took place. How could he train you if he wanted to? Well, let me clarify, Your Honor. So let's stop it. There was a second. Ed Koch got him with this weird. All right, he smells. He stinks.

You knew that. Yeah, the logic is, came back to bite it. They needed Jamie Dundee booking the fucking wrestlers on this show. They would have had a good argument. What do you think? I mean, if this was a legit thing in any way, did they see the case and say, please come and gimmick? Like, we'll only do it if you guys come.

I don't know. Again, we don't know exactly what Titanic Tony's gimmick is, really. I think that probably maybe Titanic Tony really did sue this other fucking fat clown. And but when they heard that people's court had heard about their thing, they got together and they said, hey, we'll all come and gimmick and we'll do this and that. and they don't even have their story straight. I wanted to learn the sport. I wanted to learn.

I would deal with it. But the training never took place. I understand, but if he wanted to, you would have rejected it, no? I would have, but it's just to show you how much I really wanted to get it over with, how much I wanted to learn the sport, how much I wanted to be somebody. No, you can't say anything. And then the next thing, Your Honor, on the second,

I have one basic question. I ask every guy I trained, and I have half a question. and I have some of my former students here. Do you have any heart conditions? Do you have any back conditions? No, I do not. No, I do not. Because if he would have said yes, I would never sign him.

That's a lie. I would never spend the time on him. That's a lie. Okay, so I happen to find this out. This guy is a walking medical condition. You're talking about the behemoth, Boss Hogg, Calhoun? The behemoth, yes, yes. Boss Hogg, he's a walking medical condition.

How could you look at this guy and say he's going to ask anybody about their medical condition? If you just look at the free, frame we're on now, like you're embarrassed to be involved with wrestling. It just does not look like anything you'd want to be involved with. I didn't think of. What did you find out? He had major back surgery, and he's got scars on his back. He wouldn't believe it.

I'm going to show you a videotape with a back brace on it. Do you have back injuries? I had back injuries. Yes, I do. Does your doctor say you can be a wrestler even with this phony bologna? No, sir. He wouldn't clear me. So why did you want to be trained?

Because I wanted to do this. This is something I wanted to do from being a child. Your doctor, in effect, says you're endangering your life. That's right. And notwithstanding that, you, like a fool, want to be trained in this. You're right. You're right. This is what I wanted to do.

And I didn't care. I didn't care if I would be paralyzed. Let me pause it before we get to the mother here. I was about to say, boy, you ought to see the videotape with a back brace on it. I can't believe they got that back brace around that video. I don't know if anyone like this would have gotten to you in your position in OVW, but in terms of like wrestling trainees who are kind of maybe not built for the business, but they have this whole, I mean, it's kind of a modern attitude in a lot of ways.

You know, this is a precursor to AEW's talent roster maybe. The whole, I just always wanted to do it. It's been my dream. I dream about doing this. I have my own gimmick. I want to just do this. Did you encounter that a lot? Not coming up to the door because we, you know, we didn't welcome just strangers to wander in,

but you would get videotapes and you would see guys like this on little small indie shows, even back then, but you would discourage them from further contact. Who do you think is winning so far? So far, I think that the fat guy in the dress is overcoming. the fat, stave puff marshmallow man. But let's see how it winds up. Let's go back to the people's court. Did you raise a kid who wants to risk his life this way?

I spoke to his doctor, and his doctor told me he did not advise it. I argued with him. I told him, give this up. Leave it alone. He said, Ma, it's been my lifelong dream, you know that. I do know that. And Mr. Martin guaranteed me. My son would not get hurt.

How could he do that? I don't know, but he did. All you have to do is to kick him in the back or let him fall and he can injure himself. Now, you said you haven't, who's got a video here? Thank you, Your Honor. Let's see it. Which watch the antics of Titanic Tony.

We never asked him to do anything he wasn't trained to do. Exactly. So I don't protect him. Yeah, that's not true. Your Honor. This man wouldn't be in the ring doing these spots that we called to do. This man wouldn't be in a ring right now.

Now, is Tony in the ring now? No, that's me. He's in there with a good-looking guy, Your Honor. Oh, good. Lord, they pulled his pants off already. That's here with a black brace on. There's a gap between his pants and his back brace, and a gap was filled by his ass. Yeah, and leave and play it.

I want to see more because is that a, oh, I thought that was a beluga whale getting in the ring. That's the guy in the dress. Oh, that's a back brace. It's not a back brace. A gardle maybe. Wow, it is a grower. Listen, don't make fun of wearing a girdle. That was called the spot.

That's called the bump. If you not taught that, you can't take that. You're hurt. You get hurt. The guy in the dress kicks. Your Honor, he's done that. He's a matter of room. He dropped an elbow and nearly broke the ring.

It was a matter of if you wanted to take the easy route when you found out, you had to pay some dues and work for it. That's not true. That's not true. Now, let me stop it. Now, when you said, just a moment. Let's stop it for a moment. What did you think of that footage there of Northeast Indy wrestling that was completely off the radar?

Oh, and again, they're in a parking lot just outside with 16 people around the ring, but the fat guys wearing a dress and the other guys painted up, and there's another guy just in tennis shoes and a T-shirt, and they're just... That was his other student. Lathering around. That was the same guy or kid or whatever. Yeah, that he was just... Taking verbs in the court here.

You said that he never trained you not a single day. That's what do you call that? That wasn't training. What is that? That was what it was, that was a barbecue that no other wrestlers showed up. And he needed somebody to get in the ring with all. And I was the one that got in the rain. But I had no training whatsoever.

Your Honor. I hit the floor and I felt those. If I was trained, I would have known how to take the floor and I wouldn't have got hurt. Did the defendant and put the plaintiff in harm's way by not training him? The testimony continues. Now look. Let's stop it there for a moment before we get to more. What are your thoughts now on this last little section we listen to?

Well, now we understand how he got booked. It was a barbecue and somebody else didn't show up. So they had to have a fourth for the fucking festivities. You're beating him up. Yeah, for five seconds. This is a commercial bumper for the next segment. They're showing him beat up the behemoth. It doesn't look trained at all.

There's something about him. Yeah. Here's a commercial. Ooh, there was Cameron Diaz in a T-shirt. Oh, we're back to the people's sports. Is he right? He wasn't trained properly. Let's listen.

What do you think training is? Okay, but that was not something he showed me. That is something from watching it. But there was some idea. But did he not give you an opportunity? You couldn't have been in that ring without him, could you? I think I could have. How?

How? Because I've watched it long enough and I was in high school. Based on what you saw there, that was. based on what I yeah don't stop it leave him going I'm just interjecting I'm actually based on what I saw he could have done that with no training

he arranged you in the ring is that right nobody else to be there I would jeopardize his safety what else okay I'll give you some more July 18th this is a family barbecue I run every year I told Tony says listen

you got three days three weeks already a couple dates that I do this I think you're ready to do a match with myself okay this is on this tape here let's see I think you're ready to do a

match with myself. He was taught. He had the basic moves. I also called him. So you were now, you're going to show me something where he's wrestling you. Wrestling me myself. Taking a beat. This is, uh, this is what they call a pearl harbor. They're in the words. Do you what he just said? This is what you call a Pearl Harbor. It's a move. He splashes him from behind in the corner. It's called fat guys bumping ugly. You're feeding him up. Yeah, for five seconds. He didn't train him. We didn't train him.

Jim, what are you thinking of that offense? Holy God, the punches, the knees, the flabs, the cellulite. Because he didn't. A single day. Because he did. The fast core puzzles. Let me stop it. Yeah, that's what he learned from watching TV for years and years.

Let me stop it for a second. Is it ever acceptable for a wrestling school trainer after, at most, a couple of sessions, saying, all right, you're ready to work a man? with me in front of a crowd? Not this trainer, no. Usually not any trainer, but especially not this. This trainer wasn't ready to be in front of a crowd unless it was

a goddamn bariatric surgery team. But the fact is that simply submitting to you and allowing himself to be beaten that way is part of the training, isn't it? I don't agree. If you like to watch this whole match on it, which is

It's extensively kind of long, maybe seven or eight minutes. It's not seven or eight minutes. I guarantee you six minutes of that match, I took a full beating from him. That's been only. And then what we call, if we call a big guy getting over, I beat him in one move, one, two, three, which is a choreograph. Excuse me, Your Honor. And again, we protected our students. Let me hear him.

God now they're all blown up and they're just wandering around. And the guys, it's what we call. Who call? You've read it on the internet, you fat, disgusting fuck. It's what we call going over. Since he was a kid, they made a ring in the park. He used to do it with her and with all the other boys on the block. He used to take my pillowcases and make it into face masks.

I bet she's fucked a gody member or two. You'll be nice. I'm in gimmick. I'm the bohemist. I think I'm a dolly. This man is... You're a one. I think I'm a doll.

A doll. Yeah, I come from Bellevue. I think I'm a looney ticker thinks he's a doll. You can see that. You don't think you are. He does take on that. persona though when he puts this man is a 25 year veteran let me get something straight your your schick is that you're a lunatic I'm a lunatic from Belleville who thinks he's a

doll okay okay that's my gimmick I'm a crazy crazy go explain this is all stick right now if you notice crazy Don Rock is also in gimmick he's a he's a lunatic from Bellevue it says right out of his shirt guarding angel with the heavyweight champion in New York right now you don't see any gimmick on Greg do you know you know why he's not trained he's only true his training this man is nowhere near being trained he's got a gimmick he's not parked my car

those are complete raving lunatics there's this guy standing there like a fucking mope he doesn't want to be anywhere near the rest of him he never had if he had a gimmick then he lied for me right from the start from this letter look at that this felt as a student he's a mark we read what we refer to as a mark

What does a mark mean? A mark is what these people are. A mark is a fan that likes to watch professional wrestling. But ain't that how we're going to sign up? That absorbs it, that sleeps with it, that talks about it, will give up food for it. Now, this man stays in his letter. He had nothing to do with professional wrestling. He didn't know nothing but call a couple schools and get a couple prices.

This man had a gimmick. He put the carriage on the express when he left the horse in the stables. All right, so you... We'll pause for a second shift. What the f- I don't even... know now what they're saying, but the on-screen poll indicates that people are 71 to 29

on the defendant's side, the Dave Puff Marshmallow Man, rather than the 450-pound grandmother. What are your thoughts on a wrestling school student, if this is indeed true, showing up in gimmick or with a gimmick that they want to be... That would be fabulous. That would be entertainment for the whole fucking day by the time all the boys and the trainers finished

with that guy. No, that wouldn't be done. That he didn't perform and you want your $600 back. Because I'm going to go to a reputable school that was given to me by the state. And you believe in your countersuit what? I trained him and I also have other dates. You believe he should pay you the balance. Yeah, because I would have spent my time and my abilities on somebody that would finish

and not gave up like Mr. Titanic. Come to only other barbecues. Can I say something? In his eyes, to be a professional wrestler takes one day. I could train you to be a professional wrestler. But let's listen, you cannot say that, firstly, if it takes years, why did you agree to three months?

Because I thought that it's a stepping stone and I could follow up with a school once I get my license. Well, then you believed he could train you. Yes, I did. Can I say one thing? Who are you? Um, his wife. When he first came over, he was told,

Yes, I can show you the five basic moves in one day. 24 hours. I can show you the five basic moves. One day. But it takes months, maybe even years, to get that old down pat and to get the psychology, why this is done, why you don't do that to this one. You need a yardstick to measure the distance between that girl's eyes.

They're almost on opposite sides of her head. She's the most sensible one so far, but my God, look at the state of her physically. She looks like a goddamn artichoke woman. Well, the hair doesn't help. Even the business, she knows what he does. That's what he was told. Because she took the checks. Be realistic.

I had to make the checks out to her. Yes. Because your bank. Don Rock said it. Yes. Your bank was in Nelson County. One at a time. One of a time.

My son was a mark. She just said your bank was in Nassau County. This guy's from Nassau County. That's interesting. And they saw a chance to rip a for the money. Yeah. Ask them about all the dates that I was excluded from training at Gleason's gym. Never. Yes, that's a lie. That's a lie. You're a lie. You took, you took, Greg, you did not, you didn't call me Thursday night. The last time I had spoke to your husband was on a Monday.

I was in a school for three years, Your Honor. Right, so it took you three years to do it. The reason I was, and you're trying to use the red head open the door and get out. You said you wanted three months. I said I wanted to learn. The training was to take place. Saturday and Sunday. There's nothing in the agreement. There's nothing in the agreement that says that. He said it verbally. I worked a nine to five job.

I was willing to leave words. But you also. To go with him. Listen. On the day's, they're all right. They might take close to you. Just a moment.

No, what I'm saying is I was not trained. Yeah, I accompanied him. Okay, I understand. I'm showing. I paid for my way. Got it. I'm taking a recess. I'll be back shortly.

Thank you, Your Honor. Oh, good. Judge Koch is going to apply. Well, they're going to resize. says, Jim? What are your thoughts? You know what? The wife looks like Margie, the girl in the Tammy's Tips videos. Maybe

come from the same family. It's up to, it's 84 to 16 now. Against Titanic Tony. Against Titanic. So now it's for the grandmother in the fucking dress. The giant

behemoth. All right, let's finish this thing up. We've heard what you have thought about this. Let's find out what the people think, too. Let's get some of their thoughts. Because it is pretty much the same thing. Let's find out. What do you think? I think the plaintiff put too much money into a childhood dream other than a career,

and he was looking as into the past as being a professional wrestler other than the future. Should he get his money back? No, I don't think he should. I think that the defendant trained him the way that he was supposed to train him, but he thought he was a pro before his training was over. Cart before the horse, as they say, you say? If he had a bad back, he should have never got into wrestling. What about the issue of fraud here that he defrauded the guy?

They basically both, to me, look like they defrauded each other. Nobody should get anything. I think that the defendant should get it because the plaintiff lied to him all the way. And he told him before he was going to train exactly what's going to happen. I was going to train you a day or three months. And he went right along with it. Concurrent opinion by your son. That's pretty much the view down here.

Is this the middle of the day they're just walking down through the mall or something? they're standing in the mall, getting people, these people can vote. That's another thing. That's sad. This is a heel program. Nobody deserved anything out of this. It's an interesting mix of people here. Just, like you said,

middle of the day, ready to talk about this entire case. Let's go back to the people's court. They hate the fact that the plaintiff lied about his back. Let's find out what the judge thinks. What we have here is a young man, Titanic Tony,

who has an obsession. I think you'll admit that. Yes, I do. You should take him to a psychiatrist. He is endangering his life. He is your son. You have to get someone who can work on his obsession and eliminate it. Jack Martin enters into a contract. He fulfills the contract in my judgment, and Titanic Tony decides he wants to end the contract.

because he's not satisfied with the training. But he has not convinced this court that Jack Martin failed in that training, just the reverse. The dates, the video, and I find in favor of the defendant in the amount of $900. Thank you, Your Honor. That's not justice.

Good Lord. That's anything but justice. I ain't a lobotomy time. I need justice at all. So tight. Let's stop it there before the promos at the end. There ain't no justice in the world. You know, honestly, this, again,

I think this bunch was all working together because they saw they had an opportunity to be on television. There was probably a legitimate gripe. But this is the kind of outlaw, bullshit that people, but this guy that fell for the trainer is a simpleton. Because you can take one look at this guy and even before the internet where you couldn't check people out, you could see that he was a ridiculously large piece of shit

and how this guy thought that he was going to become a pro wrestler of any stature by working at the guy's barbecues. I have no idea. But they're both idiots that preyed on each other. You think it's too easy to rent a ring at Johnny Rods's? Or Johnny Rods is that Gleason's gym? Well, yeah, that when they mentioned, Gleason's gym at one.

That was a legitimate place at one point. Still is. This guy was just just renting their ring and using their name. And so you'll get to train there at Gleason's gym. Well, maybe not. Let's get the promos here at the end, the post-match promos.

Titanic Tony takes another beating. Here comes Titanic Tony. Well, you're a man who said he would die for his dream. I think everybody in the courtroom and watching this case, their hearts must go out to you

because they can relate to a person who would die for his dreams. So what do you do now? Go on. I don't agree with what Judge Katz said about a psychiatrist, but yeah, you know, I wanted to do it. I mean, I wouldn't say I'm obsessed with it.

I don't live it 24 hours a day. I do work a Monday to Friday job. It's just something I wanted to do. It's a dream that I wanted to fulfill. You're using the past tense there. Do you still? Well, I have to get in burned this time. I don't think I'll be too quick to get burned again, you know, so...

You're not giving up on your dream, are you? Well, after this, I just might, because it just ain't worth the aggravation. Hopefully he will. Let me stop for a second. That's not him on his shirt. What is that on his shirt? It's just some guy with a... With a life preserver that says Titanic Tony around his fucking neck.

But maybe that's the only Titanic Tony shirt he can find, and he didn't have one to... The budget to have one made. All right, Tony. Thank you. Titanic Tony, good luck. Take it easy on Josephine. Hurry up, here they come.

Jack Martin did know that my son's back was bad because that was the first thing I told him all. So he lied and caught. And he always loves to Markin right now. Here comes the behemoth. With his manager acting in Gindic like a nerd. Captain Kirk. We needed that.

Captain Kirk, beat me up. Where's Mr. Spock? How'd that? How's you were saying? I'm going to say something to you. The champion of New York. Is everything under control? Absolutely.

We're a living, Dick, from Bellevue. What do you think everything is under control? Justice was served. And the Koch was very, very astute. And he's a man of honor. You didn't take advantage of Titanic. The Koch was very, very astute. The Koch was very astute.

These are fat guys in their 40s playing wrestling promo. And it's, they, done this in front of their VHS camera, sort of like some of the kids on TV we see these days. But they don't even have anything prepared. They're just trying to do it off the top of their head. This is likely the only time they've ever been on TV with their, you know, wrestling that they tell everyone they do. Well, hold on. Let's go back to this the end of it.

Tony, did you? Not in the slightest. I gave him everything and top it off. I became his friend and he just pretty much, how can I say, well, didn't, let me ask you a question. Didn't the Titanic sink the third night out too? I learned a lot from these lunatics, I mean these guys. And let me tell you, I've been in the business having years, and it's been great. And watch this guy.

All right. Two years, it's going to be one of the greatest life player of all time. You can keep this in mind. Thank you. We were fooled, but Judge Koch wasn't fooled. All right. Josephine's got your documents right down the hallway. It was great to meet you.

I tell Mr. Seul, I want to say hello one day. Okay. Too much meter in person. Okay, that's Kurt, C-U-R-T. Okay, Harvey, back to you. Well, let's cut it there. What do you think of the promo ability of the behemoth and crazy Don Rock? This is the kind of videos that we would get,

people would send it into the WWF office sometime, that I would be watching every now and then, that they legitimately thought they were somehow part of the conversation or needed to be. And it, you know, I can understand fooling yourself, but I can't understand anybody being fooled by some of these people. The Guardian Angel said he's been in the business seven years. These guys are, you know, these guys are real pros. But there it is, the People's Court, 1998,

The Behemoth, Crazy Don Rock, and, of course, Titanic Tony. But Jim, with that, yes. Where's this? And by the way, songs next week. Songs return a big holiday time of year. Songs return next year. Returns return next to you. Song, sung, blue.

Everybody knows one. Ah. It's just not working out today. It's just not. That sounded like David Caridine walking across the desert in Kung Fu. All right. Well, on that note,

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