Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 432

Episode Date: February 28, 2026

This week on the Drive Thru, Jim reviews WWE Raw, and footage of Vince McMahon's car crash! Plus Jim answers YOUR questions about retro wrestling figures, PowerTown, Survivor Series 1996, Eaton vs. Mo...rton, risky things on SMW TV, 1997 WWF trivia, Kerwin Silfies and much more! Thanks to our episode sponsors: SHOPIFY:  Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial and start selling today at shopify.com/jce RIDGE:  One thing to pack, five ways to power! Get 10% Off @Ridge with code JCE at Ridge.com/JCE #Ridgepod FACTOR: Head to factormeals.com/jce50off and use code jce50off to get 50% off and free breakfast for a year. Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: CornyDriveThru@gmail.com  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Merch! https://arcadianvanguard.com/ Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Hello again, friends. And you are, our friends. And we are all yelling here today. Welcome to another edition of Jim Cornett's drive-thru right here on another fine day. It's cold. It's windy. Some of us are sickly. But we have great wrestling talk with this man. Did I say my name? I probably did. I'm the great Brian last. Here he is the star of the show, the leader of the cult of Cornett, Mr. Jim Cornett. mercy, handsome Jimmy loves to be the star of the show. I didn't think he was ever going to get that one out, but I'll tell you, the organ solo was all over the page. It wasn't all over the page, it was all through chapters three, four, and five, but at least you didn't hit me with any shot through the heart, and you're to blame that fucking note you hit gave me a bad brain. You can't do it on purpose, though.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Every once in a while, you just, like, it's, it's the frequency. What's the frequency, Kenneth? What kind of program is this anyway, where we just come on the air and gripe at each other? Why can't we, why can't we be happy, shiny, happy people? I wasn't griping at you. You immediately, after you hear the warm, cheery music, decided, let me start griping at this nice person who's doing the nice music. Well, I was with you after nice person. Then you had to go nice music and we parted again.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Two ships in a night. I got news. Well, first of all, you're inundated with your undercover of the snow, aren't you? Do you get three feet or four feet of snow? Put one of the kids out there and draw a line in the snow where their head pops out. We got just over a foot of snow. Uh, shnaut. Yeah, fa, blah.
Starting point is 00:02:16 We can't speak. is what it is today. Some of us are a little sick. But we got just over a foot of snow again. Just over a foot of snow again. Again. See, you ought to move to Providence, Rhode Island, or wherever the fuck they got three feet.
Starting point is 00:02:33 It'd be bad. And it was very different than the last foot of snow we got, which was in the middle of zero degree temperatures. This was like 32, 33 degrees, sometimes a little lower. So it's just big wet. snow everywhere and yeah it's a lot of snow this year big giant wet dripping now that's the worst that's the worst kind is the right around the freeze because then the colder it gets then it's the fine the fine snow and not the fluffy snow but then then you have a sheet of ice
Starting point is 00:03:09 versus you could at least did you send the kids out get the driveway cleared off i decided for the first time, and what a good move this was, to offer one of my daughter's boyfriend's money to come with his father's snowblower and take care of our driveway. But he's got a badass snowblower, it'll work on a foot or more snow. I've been using the snowjo.
Starting point is 00:03:33 This kind of snow is actually perfect for the snowjo. It goes through it, but it takes a little while and you'll have to grip it the whole time, so you'll get tired. This snowblower... I wouldn't get tired. I wouldn't have fucking laid hands on the ground. goddamn thing. I let it snow, let it snow, but go ahead. That's right. Last time, I don't even
Starting point is 00:03:49 think it was on the air where I asked you. I'm like, hey, you know, we're talking about the snowstorm a foot of snow. You had snow, I had snow. My driveway is big. My driveway was packed with snow. I said, we're going to have to do something because we have to get out of here. You're like, I was like, what do you do? You know, I think you must have some advice. You have a big driveway and it goes downhill and, you know, whatever. What do you do? You're like, oh, I don't shovel anything. I just get in my truck and drive over it. I put it four-wheel drive and I floor it to back that son of a bitch out of the driveway. And I know where my drive is. So I go down it once. And then I've got tracks to follow on the way back. But they threw two monkey wrenches in my life this time. Number one,
Starting point is 00:04:31 when they plowed the road, it piled up about a two-foot high goddamn snowbank across the foot of my driveway. And then it got so cold for so long. It went, what was the? was it 12 days or whatever the fuck without coming above freezing ever. So it became a sheet of ice. I powered out through it with old Black Beauty through that fucking snowbank at the bottom the first time. But goddamn, it would freeze back over and shit. It was getting rushed.
Starting point is 00:05:04 I called the new yard fellow. Do you have a snowplow? And apparently he was in Florida or whatever. He didn't get back to me for a week and a half. already had one of the Monroe's over here when it was a melting day with a shovel to clear the rest of it off. But I just kind of power through it. I'm not going to go out there and have a heart attack. And I so far have not had a situation where I needed some plow person to come and plow. Because I don't know how the fuck they would see where to go and I don't
Starting point is 00:05:40 want them tearing my fucking yard up. Did Plow Boy Fraser actually own a plow? when he was a small plow boy, when he was a little plow boy, he plowed the fields down there in Philadelphia, Mississippi. All right. How did that, but you're snow. So your snow is okay. You're not good, but the snow is okay. Yeah, no, we're fine. We can get out and about.
Starting point is 00:06:07 The mailman can come here and DoorDash can come here. The mailman can come here. And I'm glad. Did you invite him in for coffee? sit and chat around the kitchen table? If he ever wanted, if he ever needed a drink, he's more than welcome in my house. He's a wonderful woman.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Oh, is he a drinker? He's going to come in and have a fucking snort on the job, thanks to you? I didn't say that, and it won't be thanks to me. You'll be named in the suit when he fucking runs over somebody's mailbox. Well, he got snookered over at the last place. Apparently that is an issue with the snow plows where they go so fast down some of the bigger roads and, you know, not on this street, it's a smaller road, but some of the bigger ones,
Starting point is 00:06:47 they just take out all the mailboxes one after another as they're doing it, and the town has to buy a mailbox for them or give them a credit towards a mailbox. Like reboxing is what they call it. Rebox technically, yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm glad to know your box is okay, Brian, but I know this is your show also,
Starting point is 00:07:09 and I'm going to let you lead the way far, be it for me to try to dominate the conversation, Asian, but I got news from the state of Kentucky, not even about the weather this time. Sometimes. I already know what this is. Well, this was sent to me, but it's not far from here. I mean, I don't know. Maybe 100 miles.
Starting point is 00:07:29 What now is the crow flies? What? Without you telling me, I know what this is because dozens of listeners, if they see anything wacky that happens in Kentucky now, they send it in because you're the authority on Kentucky. Yeah, well, and I can, I can tell you that, that, um, I don't know that I've ever seen this gentleman in person, but he looks like a lot of people in Mullenburg County, Kentucky. Oh, Daddy, won't you tag me back to Muleenburg County down by the Green River where Paradise lay?
Starting point is 00:08:02 I'm sorry, my son, but you're too late in asking Mr. Pibod. He's cold train done hauled it away. He's a legitimate Mullenberg county and. I can tell by his picture, but would you like me to read the, it made, it not only made the news around the state of Kentucky, and apparently nationwide, but I found an article from the, this is the fucking mirror in the United Kingdom. This is international news that the people of Kentucky you're making.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Ladies gentlemen, a man covered in blood and fur has been arrested after he allegedly had sex with a dead deer. Alan Osborne, 32 was apprehended after a passing driver allegedly witnessed him engage in sexual activity with a dead deer. Now, you've got, again, this does not do justice. I'm ad-living here now, this is not the report, but this doesn't do justice to what actually happened. This guy's down in Mullenburg County.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Brian, down by the Green River where Paradise lay, on the side of the fucking road, while a guy's driving by it, he looks and he sees this guy on the side of the road. This is not a major interstate. There's no fucking major interstate. It's just, he's on a side of the road fucking a dead deer. So, back to the story. The witness called 911 just after 7 p.m. on a Saturday, giving a description of Osborne to the dispatcher.
Starting point is 00:09:42 when officers arrived at the scene in Mullenburg County, they were able to match Osborne to the description given. A police citation report said officers approached Osborne shortly after being alerted and found blood on his hands and face. And the officers also reported finding the suspect with his trousers around his knees as well as blood and deer fur on his body as they arrested him. I'm not sure, Brian, if he's, do they have enough evidence? Looking at this man's picture right now,
Starting point is 00:10:22 do you think maybe this is a down on his luck, Mantar? Actually, I was... Covered in fur, I mean... I was thinking maybe it was the illegitimate son of Killer Brooks. He's got hair on every part of his head except for the top of it. And he's got, does he have, he has like cheekbone hair, doesn't he? Is that just a shadow in the picture? He's not looking too happy.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Do you think he's trying to make himself look more animal-like to blend in with the night while he's doing this on the side of the road? The side of the road! There's so many different crazy parts of this. He's covered in blood and fur. I want the 911 call. Yeah, I'm going down Highway 411 right down outside of Wattsburg, and I'm in Meadlenburg County,
Starting point is 00:11:12 and there's a guy on the side of, of the road. And I swear, now I'm not sure, because I've left my glasses at home, but I think he's some kind of humping a dead deer is laying there. Because the deer ain't selling him.
Starting point is 00:11:29 What in the world? How do you call that in? I mean, I don't think it was a 911 call. I'm guessing some cop was driving by. I was like, what the fuck? No, no, driver. No, there's no cops just driving. I got driver witnessed him
Starting point is 00:11:44 fucking the deer on the highway. on the road and called 911. The story has been reported. Giving a description of Osborne to the dispatcher. Yes, fat ball guy. With a fucking big beard is humping that deer. Deer can't get away. You have to question everything if that's what you see.
Starting point is 00:12:07 It's kind of like in the shining when the guy finds the guy dressed like a dog blowing the guy. Like, what the fuck is happening here? What is, I don't understand any of this. On the side of the road. Oh, wait there. There's more. I'm sorry. I saw a plug there in a picture. I thought that was the end of story. But he is currently being held at the Mullenberg County Detention Center. So we got that going for us. And he's charged with sexual crimes against animals and authorities are continuing their investigation. Osborne is from Mullenburg County reports the Central City Police Department. Also, he's locked. up in Central City. So he ain't getting out of there.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Wow. How far is this from? Out to Western Kentucky Parkway, is it 120 miles-ish or somewhere, right? I haven't been out that way in so long, actually. But not far
Starting point is 00:13:08 enough is how far. Not far enough, pal. That is crazy. How depraved a human being do you need to be. I mean, for heaven's sake, you know, alive, dear, now that's nobody's business as long as it's grown and consenting, but to desecrate a corpse.
Starting point is 00:13:30 That's still awful, although a challenge. It's still awful, I would imagine, and it's still beastiality. Well, do you remember what Kurt Angle was fed that line? Who was he feud? It was viewed a Booker T, and he was supposed to be in love with Charmel, and he's like, I want to have bestiality sex with you. Did they not understand what that means? Why would he say that for her?
Starting point is 00:13:53 Hold on, no, hold on. I'll tell you now, because I don't even remember hearing about that, but I'll tell you exactly what happened, because Kurt, especially back in those days, was not as worldly as one might think, and I guarantee you that Vince himself said, I want to have bestial sex with you, because now that we, what we know about Vince,
Starting point is 00:14:17 and that's a phrasing that he would use and Kurt mispronunciated it and intimated that they were of different species. All right, well, this has been a Kentucky new, do you think, I mean, this is being covered in England now, do you think Kentucky man is going to become the new Florida man? No, because there's not enough of us. They got way more of those people in Florida.
Starting point is 00:14:44 So there's no way that we could catch up. You have guys fucking dead animals on the side of the road while dressed as a dead animal, and you also have drunk raccoons in the street. Well, he wasn't dressed as a dead animal. He was covered in fur and blood. Do you think it was just like, it was the fur from fucking fucking the dead fucking deer? See, I actually picture him like rolling up, like sneaking up, like dressed like a deer. Like he's actually wearing like the manpower fur.
Starting point is 00:15:12 He's like sneaking up. No, for heaven's sake, that would have made him too obvious. that would have made him way too obvious he was trying to avoid detection no kiddie when's the last time you fucked the deer without getting any fur on you I have never
Starting point is 00:15:27 it's already bleeding Jesus I don't know anything about this stuff well see then don't talk about shit you don't know about city boy this is Kentucky news ladies and gentlemen we talk about the snow up here in New Jersey they talk about the
Starting point is 00:15:41 semantics of deer fucking dead deer fucking I'm just I'm You're fucking this dead deer. I'm just holding its head. I'm driving by in a truck. Yeah. Well, Jim,
Starting point is 00:15:54 yes. That may be Kentucky news. And of course, you can learn more about the wrestling thoughts of one of Kentucky's great men by getting the new book
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Starting point is 00:16:53 at Jim Cornett.com. Fur pelt outfits that you can wear for your roadside trips. That's right. See, if you cover yourself up with this thing, and it's got leaves taped to the back. So you're just a pile of leaves. At Jimcornette.com. At Jimcoronet.com. Well, Jim, why don't we stay on the topic of traffic news?
Starting point is 00:17:17 This has been sent over by so many listeners that I think we gotta start off with it. The video has been released, Vince McMahon's July 2025 car crash on the Merritt Parkway in Connecticut. We'll play some audio and review the actual footage, but why don't we talk a little bit about this and get your opening thoughts? Well, they apparently got the body camera footage and dash camera footage from the, not only the cop that was chasing vents up the Merritt Parkway at 115 miles an hour, but also of a couple of different of the, you get a couple of different viewpoints of what's out there so far of a couple of the different cops that were, that questioned him immediately upon first contact him,
Starting point is 00:18:10 and then they were telling him what was going on. And one of them, he was saying, I know who you are. But we've told him. these stories about Vince and now his driving and that he thinks he's, as he did with everything else, he thinks he's the greatest driver in the world and he's infallible. And that he's, I think he, Steve McQueen, would that be his generation when he gets behind the wheel? He's like, I'm, here I go, pal. And he's 80, right? So I just, I think here's exactly what happened. From watching the video of the dash cam of the cop following him the cop was in an unmarked car but apparently still
Starting point is 00:18:53 had a light on and had been following Vince for however long at the speeds of he said later on up to 115 miles an hour or whatever but Vince is not trying to get away from the guy I guarantee you that Vince is just in his own world there for a second and as Vince is in the right lane, he's speeded up because he's got open road in front of him. And he gets up to over 100 miles an hour or whatever the fuck. And the cop had pulled over in the left lane, Brian. You remember the see the cop pulls over in the left lane
Starting point is 00:19:36 because he's going to try since there's some open area, they think, to get up beside this maniac. And when Vince suddenly, sees this woman that he ended up hitting in front of him, he's going to get over to the left and just whip past her, but that's the point where he glanced into the mirror and saw this fucking car coming up on him, even if he didn't know it was a copy,
Starting point is 00:20:04 but he admits he saw a light later on. I think he saw it right then. And he's the second that he realized, oh, I'm fucked, because here's any car coming up to, catch me at 115 or whatever. He didn't react quick enough, and then you see him hit the brakes and try to get over, but he clipped the back left side of her car, and he went all to hell, and she went to hell.
Starting point is 00:20:32 But I guarantee you that he was so goddamn wrapped up, and this is my road, and I own this state, and I'm going to get up to Westport for the party, or whatever the fuck, that, He was just going to go as fast he wanted to go, and it wasn't until he tried to swerve around that woman that he realized, ah, shit, and that took him a split second, and he couldn't make it. Is that what you saw? I don't know. I'm not going to give Vince the benefit of the doubt that that's what happened, other than he was just driving like a maniac and was trying to get to the exit, and he doesn't have the reflexes
Starting point is 00:21:08 he used to. I'm not going to say it was because he saw the light, I'm not going to give him that benefit. I'm not saying he was still, he was Mario Andretti, but I'm saying right then, because why else would you just, he just ran into it? Because he looked back and he's, ah, shit, and he forgot to look forward again. He knew he was cooked. That's what fucking, this was a Thursday morning. Who was a birthday party for their kid on a Thursday morning? I guess not a little kid, maybe if it's one of the older kids, college age.
Starting point is 00:21:42 but we're getting ahead of ourselves because the audio is classic Vince. Because as I've mentioned over the years on the program, I've seen Vince talk to several different law enforcement officers. And when he's indignant and it's somebody else's fault, he has a whole different tone than when he's trying to get away with something. and this was fucking classic. I'm just, and did you see also when,
Starting point is 00:22:19 okay, the dash cam video, Vince is wiped out that, and that poor woman, the cop following Vince, you see him pull over and go up to Vince, the woman could have been bleeding to death on the side of the road back there,
Starting point is 00:22:32 a fucking carotid artery opened up or whatever. Nobody, when did they go to her? That's not even, shown, but when the cop, then the body camera footage starts, he walks up to Vince's car, this $300,000 Bentley.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Did you see on the ground the whole side window had fallen completely out of the fucking car? And was laying there inside of him. And there's Vince with his Sputnik Monroe hairdo before he rethought
Starting point is 00:23:05 that with his fucking head down. How about the state events in this? Forget about just, you know, he's driving to a birthday party or whatever. He looked disheveled beyond the crash. His face, too, was just all, it was almost like a cartoon. It was almost like he was a Dick Tracy villain. It was almost like, you know, Dick Tracy villains had, like, giant faces and they were all, like,
Starting point is 00:23:28 you know, over the top. That's kind of what he looked like here. And he doesn't seem to have, like, the use of his mouth a time. He's false face. He's false face. No, that's the thing is that's casual vince. And I don't think he's wearing these socks either. He stung his foot out and he had some, probably some kind of slip on fucking tennis shoes.
Starting point is 00:23:54 It cost $500 a pair and he's got the expensive designer sweatpants on because of his somewhat, you know, disheveled body now. it looks blah. But that's it when Vince is all casual and he's going to do something, his $300,000 car, I was surprised he didn't say, here, here, officer, here's 10 grand in cash, just leave me alone.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I have things to do. Well, on that topic, before again, we'll play some audio here. Eventually, Vince is in the truck of one of his handlers, his assistants, those twins, I believe. would anyone else anywhere have been treated this way? I watch a lot of videos on YouTube just recently
Starting point is 00:24:43 because they popped up and I got hooked of body cam videos of people being arrested. All sorts of crazy women. The crazy women ones are the most fun to watch, I have to be honest. But all sorts of things and the way cops deal with them, people don't get to drive like that and not get taken in.
Starting point is 00:25:04 and he did. They walked up, I know who you are, they were very respectful. It was almost like they were bothering him. Not the first guy. The first guy was annoyed. The first guy was following him.
Starting point is 00:25:16 But would anyone else anywhere, reasonably, even if they had no criminal record, would anyone have ever been treated as casually as he was there? No, it sounded like the first guy was fairly young, sounded like to me,
Starting point is 00:25:31 and it was one of the cops that was out of, in the vicinity, right? It just happened to see this guy going 100 miles an hour down the road. And he didn't know who the fuck, I don't know, he didn't know it was Vince McMahon, and I don't know if he knew who Vince McMahon was
Starting point is 00:25:50 if he had known it was Vince McMahon. And he's the one, I don't know why he was so polite, otherwise I think he may have been young. He was more polite than most cops I would have ever pulled me over it would have been when I was going 78 or whatever, right? But he's like, well, is there a good reason you're going
Starting point is 00:26:09 100 miles an hour? You just hit that woman. We'll hear the audio. But then every other of the ones. But after the other ones, oh, yeah, I know you are. Because they've radioed in, he's given the license
Starting point is 00:26:26 and the name and when all shit, McMahon, Connecticut, because they're, what are they, 25 miles from Stanford there? is that up the merit, not even, right? Maybe that much, yeah. And even if you're not a wrestling fan, hate to break it to everybody.
Starting point is 00:26:45 In Connecticut, if Linda McMahon tried to run for fucking Senate twice. They've made news on their own besides wrestling. And the cops knew who they were. It's like, oh, shit, he's in a $300,000 Bentley. So if he's if he's a 20-year-old black guy, he's a rapper, if he's an 80-year-old white guy, he's a billionaire in Connecticut. There's nobody else driving a $300,000 car.
Starting point is 00:27:16 And they knew who it was. And then they're all like, well, we don't want to get anybody upset here, but you're, you fucking maniac, you thankfully didn't kill this woman, or we'd have to figure out a way and probably not take you in. See, to me, the more reasonable, believable explanation would have been, I know it's early here on the Merrick Parkway, but I noticed in front of me I had open road and I've one exit to go and I was just going to get there as fast as I could. Because you saw how he killed traffic. At one point, the camera, when the cops are there, you see like all the cars that can't go by anymore because of Vince. Vince shut down the Merrick Parkway.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Yeah. Which, again, is not a fucking record. a thing that probably, I bet there's 150,000 people in that state that at one time or another have shut down to Merritt Parkway. But usually not for going 115 miles per hour because there's usually not even a possible way to do that. He would go in north at whatever time in the morning just perfectly instead of the other way. But, well, let's play some audio of this.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Again, the dash cam footage, the body. body cam footage, all of it's come out. Some of the footage of the cop following Vince, there's no audio. Yeah, that's, we can't really, you know, but... But let's go now to Vince McMahon pulled over on the right-hand side of the road after crashing his car, and we'll have a police officer coming up to him. Just stay in the car. Do you need an ambulance? No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:28:56 All right. Why were you driving over 100 miles an hour? I got Grand Daughter's birthday. I got to let us the next exit. Did you see me trying to catch up to you behind you? I didn't see that. It saw lights, but it didn't look normal. All right. Yeah, I'm trying to catch up to you and you keep taking off.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Oh, no, no, no, I'm not to take me. I'll run you. I know. I know, I understand that, but that's why I was very confused. All right, let's stop there for a moment. Again, wasn't licensed registration right away the first question. Do you know why you were driving over 100? Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Why were you going out about that? Well, it's my granddaughter's birthday. It could not even like, oh, my God, my God, my. wife is on a machine. My granddaughter's birthday, she'll live to be eight. One exit away. One exit away.
Starting point is 00:29:43 What eggs? I almost got it. That's like saying I almost got away with it. I had the money in my hand from the bank, but I should have turned the corner. But the lights didn't look normal. They didn't look normal. They looked like lights.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I'm used to pyro. Again, not one answer. so far is sufficient to be like, I'm not hauling this guy in. Exactly. And there's more. All right, because it wasn't like you were running. It was just like you're going, you almost hit, I think, 115 miles an hour. All right?
Starting point is 00:30:17 And then you just hit someone because you weren't paying attention. Were you looking at your phone? No, trying to drive. No, I'm not looking at my phone. The person was right in front of you. There's got to be a reason you hit him. I haven't been driving my car and God knows that one. All right.
Starting point is 00:30:31 It was right in front of you. You went. Yeah, let's stop right there. right in front of him. The cop is great here because he's just like, you know, and I'd see him. They were right in front of you. How did you not see them? What? The explanation, I haven't driven his car in some time. So there's no possible way that I could have, A, known that I was traveling 115 miles an hour, and B, that there's someone in front of me. Because I haven't driven his car, this $300,000 car,
Starting point is 00:31:04 that I just, usually it sits in the driveway. I don't have time. You don't hear about too many other wild Bentley accidents happening all over the place and other billionaires. I haven't driven in a while. I lost control. The gas pedal is just so firm. Let's go back to Vince McMahon.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Straight at it. At 100 miles an hour. I'm just making sure you're not having a medical condition or anything. Do you need an ambulance? No, fuck. I'm sorry. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Just your registration. Is your license in here? I'm not in my pocket. All right. And by the way, it appears that Vince had everything kind of ready as the guy was walking up to him. He was going for his registration. That's why he handed it to him there. He had everything kind of ready to go.
Starting point is 00:31:55 He knew what was going to happen. Oh, well, of course. What do you think of that? Vince calling himself stupid fucking fool. Now here we go. Not only, here's two things. He really is mad at himself because he has made an error. he has made a mistake and that means he's not perfect.
Starting point is 00:32:25 He's had a traffic accident, which is exposed to at least this person in front of him that he's not the world's greatest driver. But also, now he's thought of something, he's thought of a plan, he thought of a grinchly old plan. He'll start berating himself out loud so that the cop could go,
Starting point is 00:32:47 well, no way, he's not all that bad, and try to swerve his situation around some kind of way. So you think that's a strategy? It's both. He's really mad at himself, but he's using it for fucking his own purposes. I've driven this car quite some of time. It's fast, I'll tell you that.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Yeah, too fucking fast. So there you go. You can identify, pal. What's that? I say, you can identify. He's like giving the copy. You can identify, pal. Too fucking fast.
Starting point is 00:33:22 you know, hey, we're in these chases and shit. He's just, he's trying to get in some kind of way here. You know, before I press play again, just looking at the state of the car, the airbag is out. There's all sorts of shit holding from the top. The window is gone. The airbag was in the shape, hanging in the shape of Linda's face. Oh, all right, let's go back to the audio. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Well, Jim, let's stop it here for a moment, because now we have a different camera angle. Vince McMahon is in an SUV, a gray SUV with tinted windows. There is another police officer in front of the officer that was the first one with the body cam, and he's now talking with Vince, who is hanging out the window practically. He's going to this. He's not hanging out the window. It looks awkward. He's sitting in, but he's leaning somewhat out the window to speak to these people. And now, remember, I think he's got to the annoyed part, because this is significant time.
Starting point is 00:34:38 has passed and he's been out there for a while and I can tell he's cooking. Is that date okay? Is that date okay? Is that date okay? So, and this answers the question that we had asked and wondered about before was did they take him in? Because some wording of this incident that was reported to say he was arrested or he was charged or whatever. It was never clear when they just let somebody come and pick him up. He said on the side of the road, they gave him a fucking ticket.
Starting point is 00:35:38 for running into this woman at under 20 miles an hour and asked if the court date would be okay or wouldn't that, you know, and here you go. Do you have any fraud for the court in check? So, I guess, just any phone number where I can contact me? Please, criminal. Please tell the police force where you are
Starting point is 00:36:02 so that we can just call you on the phone every once in a while and make sure you're still there. And it doesn't appear from this that Vince knows his phone number, because someone else has to give the phone number. Well, in all fairness, how often does he call himself? Maybe something, because it goes on all this form, so is there like another number of assistance number? 914? What's that? 555.
Starting point is 00:36:29 355. 30, 3.0. Okay. So wait, wait, wait me. They went in here also. They just got the assistance number rather than putting Vince's. That's what it was. Vince didn't want to give his personal number out.
Starting point is 00:36:47 And the cop agree, oh, it goes on all these forms. It was just an assistance number or whatever. So this is just a court summary. I don't have to get a copy. You're not in the bottom. You're not saying you're guilty. You're saying you're going to court. And this is the appearance bomb.
Starting point is 00:37:16 All right? I'm releasing you want a $500 non-stream bond. Jesus, age Christ. We're releasing you on a $500 bond. How are they doing that? What does that mean? I don't know how that works. He didn't just pay them.
Starting point is 00:37:34 I mean, how did that work? No, I think it's a non-secured bond where he has to pay $500 if he doesn't show up. If he doesn't show up to court, they're going to drag him down to get $500 from him. but I mean, it's different in every state, and let's not get mired down in the different statutes and traffic, you know, legalities of state by state.
Starting point is 00:37:59 But the point is, for absolutely nothing except here's your ticket and you're going to have to come to court or send your attorney to court, one or the other, and at such and such date in the future, they let him run into this woman, cause this chaos, and be free. On this topic, just going up the forest, and let's be a popular list. It's a nice meeting you. I'm sorry I was under this circumstance. All right, just let the card know what happened. Everybody's okay, yeah?
Starting point is 00:39:04 All right, have a good day, so. Nice to meet you. Happy birthday to your granddaughter. Try to enjoy the rest of the day, right? Thank you. All right. They all shook his hand, wished his grandmother happy birthday, and the told him to have a great day. Try to have a good rest of your day. Hey, nice to meet you. And once again, it would normally be,
Starting point is 00:39:35 boy, you're going to come into my county driving like getting in danger and the citizens of my town. I'm going to put you under the jail. If it was anyone else, they would have had him on the ground with guns pointed at him. Why are you driving like that? What? It's my goddust. Obviously. What I was waiting for at the fucking,
Starting point is 00:39:59 at the end of it, if only they had said, if you don't have any more questions, you're free to go. But any, that's, you know, Vince's driving has always been
Starting point is 00:40:13 suspect, but that is a level. He couldn't have pulled that off 25 years ago. And remember my story of the rookie cop giving him that ticket and him peeling out and blowing gravel on the kid, but he still got the ticket. But he couldn't have pulled something like that
Starting point is 00:40:35 25 years ago before he became a billionaire making news and Linda ran for Senate and the state and they're all buddies with Trump and et cetera, et cetera. Maybe he could have in Connecticut, because again, that's ground zero for Vince and Linda's political spending. even before she ran for office, they did everything they could to make sure they were in good locally in Greenwich and in Stanford with the powers that be. There was a reason Linda was going to like all these dinners and stuff in the late 80s.
Starting point is 00:41:06 She was the mingler. So, I mean, they, I've always made sure that they had a cozy relationship with the local government in Connecticut since WWF started. Well, I know. Under Vince and Linda. This is a new level of kid gloves. And I asked you right before we started the show now that I think about it, I've told so many stories because everyone was to Vince driving in the rain
Starting point is 00:41:34 and Vince getting a stop and getting the ticket and Vince John with the airline pilot for going to the wrong airport and blah, blah, blah. We got pulled over by the cops one time when I was driving. and it was Vince and Jim Ross and Bruce Pritchard in a car and I don't remember whether I've told you that or not but I will mention it now because I thought of it but it wasn't like for any goddamn major deal but they ribbed me
Starting point is 00:42:07 we had been at this back of the days when we would do like say superstars on one night and challenge the Dundicated days, 96, and we would be at TV tapings two or three days in a row, right? And they would book them within a couple of hours of each other so that you could drive. And I can't even remember where it was, but we had flown to a location. Maybe we were Detroit one night, Grand Rapids the next night. And fences decided we're going to all stay in the same town, all two, three nights, whatever,
Starting point is 00:42:43 and we'll drive over and back for if it's Grand Rapids or wherever the fuck it is. and some way or another because I think J.R. didn't want to deal with Vince driving that morning. He convinced Vince that Vince should sit in the back seat and look at his book with him. Corny you drive. And so, okay, right. So I'm driving the rental car. And it's a beautiful sunny day. And I'm not particularly going too fast, but it's over the speed limit, 75-ish, whatever,
Starting point is 00:43:19 on the interstate. And all of there's the fucking lights. I'm getting pulled over. God damn. And then when the cop pulls over, said, don't worry, you know, I don't think I have any traffic infractions. He's going to fucking haul me out of the car for anything.
Starting point is 00:43:38 And I realize I've left my wallet in my briefcase, which is in the trunk. So as an officer, my wallet's in the briefcase in the trunk. Okay, popped trunk. He hasn't seen who's, he sees it's four regular looking white guys, right? He's not a particularly wrestling fan, I don't think, per se, where he's immediately gone gaga over us, right? I get in my briefcase. Guess what I ain't got in my briefcase, Brian?
Starting point is 00:44:14 Are you there? I thought that was one of those you're going to answer anyway, but obviously it must be your driver's license. well is my wallet because I realized I took my wallet out last night or last night the night before to pay for the pizza that I got delivered to the bucket room and I set it on the counter in my goddamn hotel room and left it there I was an officer I said and look at this we're like distinguished middle-aged Caucasian fellows I said they can tell you who I am and you can run my give you my social security number. I've got a driver's license. I'm from Kentucky. I'm a good old boy. Never
Starting point is 00:44:56 meaning no harm. I tell him who I am. What if I said, you can ask them, whatever. So he has me sit in the back seat of his car and he goes up to ask them. He comes back, he says, they said your name is James E. Cornett. Because Vince had really told him that my name was James E. Cordette because that's what he was convinced it was. But after he, then he kind of busted up laughing, they had tried to get him. They told him who I was. And they said it must be in some way Vincent charmed him enough to where he got the cop to try to play a rib on me about you're going to jail because they said you've got a
Starting point is 00:45:44 different name and blah, blah, blah, but he couldn't go through with it. So it kind of ended with a fart, but I was momentarily, my sphincter was puckering. And then he gave me a warning. He said, remember your driver's license and fucking, we continued on to Grand Rapids or whatever. But see, that's a thing. Vincent, he's, oh, it's funny as shit. When it's somebody else either fucking up or getting cross-interrogated by the law. But when it's him, it's a different story.
Starting point is 00:46:18 It would have been funny if you, like, crawled out of the woods when he got pulled over, I covered in fur and blood. Like, Vince, there's your receipt. Well, that's the Vince McMahon driving story. Of course, what exactly he was charled, what he got off with. Vince McMahon. Well, I don't want to know what he got off with, but can you tell what the final dispensation of his case was? Hold on.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Vince McMahon, according to this, let's see. In October, a judge allowed McMahon to enter a pre-trial program with the condition that the charges would be dismissed if he made a $1,000 donation and maintained proper licensing and insurance. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Well, it's all right, you're supposed to maintain a proper license and insurance anyway. Yeah, I don't know why that would be one of the requests after crashing your car out at 115 miles per hour. So $1,000 and we'll just forget. There's going to be a, certainly there would have to be a civil suit. Unless somebody from Vince's side reaches out to somebody from whatever this woman's name is, side, Jane Doe and says here, here's five or six million dollars. Well, we will stay on top of the Vince McMahon driving news, as it happens.
Starting point is 00:47:52 If he drives again, I'm sure there'll be another incident. But Jim makes you think about all the success Vince McMahon had that led to this point. You know, Vince McMahon and Linda McMahon took over his father's business, using company funds to pay for it, pretending like they somehow got that money differently, but that's what it was. That had been running and expanding upon itself to many times over. for the previous 20 years. But so much of what he did was about the way he promoted himself,
Starting point is 00:48:23 and so much of it was about the sales, the merch sales, the toys, the tickets, paper views. The rags, paper, and pins, so to speak, and a nice plug for cornetscollectibles.com, but the point is, Vince McMahon, if he started today, I would have to imagine he would need the right support, and if he wasn't a complete pervert and a train wreck of a human being,
Starting point is 00:48:47 maybe he can work with someone like our friends at Shopify. Well, I'll tell you, but the train has left the station on that one, and Buster Keaton has run it right off the fucking bridge. But right now, folks, Shopify is what you can use to achieve what Vince has done without the perversion. That's the making of the millions and millions of dollars, because if Vince had an idea, he had to make it, a reality the old-fashioned way by lying, cheating, stealing, and screwing people over.
Starting point is 00:49:24 But now that there's the internet, you can cut the middle people out. You don't have to lie and cheat and steal and screw people over. You can go directly to the consumer and just take their money. And Shopify will tell you how it helped you do it. They'll have a hand in your hand while both of your hands goes in somebody else's pocket. Not the way we should be explaining or describing any of this. Again, we're talking about honest, genuine business commerce on the up and up. Yes.
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Starting point is 00:51:45 middle there, and they have the iconic purple throbbing shop pay button that is used by millions of businesses around the world, and if we could figure out just a way to hack into that, boy, imagine every time somebody presses that button, we don't want to hack it. You get one penny, just if they just shave one penny off and we could hide it some way. This illegal scheme is not going to happen. It's also impossible. You don't have any technical capabilities to make it happen, so the listeners don't need to worry about it. What you need to worry about is
Starting point is 00:52:15 nothing. Don't worry. The point is be happy and anticipate sales. That's what we want to say. What I did was I took a wire coming from my wall for the internet and I took some duct tape which I figure it transmits the signal also and I taped it to the little purple shop pay button
Starting point is 00:52:34 and waited. Thinking if somebody hit it that it would send a charge through but it didn't. I didn't get a penny. I was penniless. I was penniless. I was penniless but Shopify will make you a fortune. And right now it's time to turn all of that who shot John that I just said into money and chinging.
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Starting point is 00:53:48 that came out last week and we haven't had a chance to talk about it. The passing of Kerwin's selfies. Oh, and yes, and we just didn't, unfortunately, didn't think about it when we were doing the show last week when it happened, and I didn't want anybody to think that we were glossing him over. I mean, I worked with Kerwin for a short period of time a couple of years while I was, you know, up there in Stanford and doing the WWF, well, several years overall, doing the WF TVs, but more, when I was just coming in as a talent, we never saw the guys in the truck
Starting point is 00:54:25 because it was chaos at a, you know, a smaller crew at that point. And obviously we, you know, spoke, but didn't spend a lot of time together. But then as I started to spend more time when I lived there at the studio and or on the road in the truck as a producer, the Kerrwin was, he was a great director, just a great TV director and a nice guy and very i don't know how to even describe it but very calm and cool especially under pressure it was like almost of a kind of a distinguished yankee version of lawler where i've said before at lawler never got upset about anything if you ran in and said they were playing cards you said king the fucking buildings on fire well i guess this
Starting point is 00:55:13 have to be the last hand curwin was kind of a northern version of that. He was very cool and calm, dry, understated. You know, the generator's blown up. Well, I wonder if we can get another one. There's just nothing. It's, you know, going to flap him. But he did a lot. I don't know how long it's been. Didn't they let him go into pandemic? So he was doing a lot of the modern day wrestlers that are, you know, 15 Camer.
Starting point is 00:55:48 shoots or 20 camera shoots or whatever they are. This was complicated shit. He was very good at what he did. And again, I didn't realize he was only 75 because when I was there, he seemed like he had been there forever. I would have thought he was older even than that. But he, I guess, started, you know, 40, 41 years ago, whatever. Well, our sympathies to the friends. and the fans of the work of Curwin Silfies. And Jim, with that, we shall return with the Raw Review right after this short commercial timeout. All right, we return, Jim.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Now that the music has got you in the mood, why don't we talk about WW RAW? You're usually, I don't look forward to the Raw reviews, but there was some noteworthy stuff this week, and the road to WrestleMania is getting interesting, but maybe for all the wrong reasons. They forgot the winter. has caused some potholes in that road.
Starting point is 00:57:01 And that's why, again, I haven't paid a lot of attention to Raw over the last several weeks because, boy, it's two and a half hours, and there are, and I think you will agree with me, I don't think this is a controversial statement to make. A lot of long stretches where between the commercials and the plugs
Starting point is 00:57:22 and the falterall backstage and nothing happens for long periods of time on this program. I agree. You know, so it's a bit of a schlog, but we're coming up on the elimination chamber, which I get, we'll have next week on a drive-through, Ojoy O'Brien, and it's the road to WrestleMania, and they've already had a few changes. So I'm trying to pay more attention. They're in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:57:52 They're honoring AJ Stiles. I mean, well, this will be just swell and boy, howdy, here, I'm not even saying this was a bad show, but goddamn bad things keep happening. So let's start out and go in order. They were in Atlanta, Georgia. This was February 23rd, the State Farm Arena. I think the Omni was a cooler name, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:58:19 Yeah, the Omni always sounded super cool. Yeah, I mean, this isn't the Dunkin' Donuts Center. There actually is one of those. Yum. in Providence. The Yum brand center. I don't know. I think Yum Center is even better
Starting point is 00:58:34 than Dunkin' Donuts Center because we could pretend like a fucking rich Chinese guy bought the thing. But anyway, they started out with Gunther. Okay, I like Gunther. And he came out and he interrupted Michael Cole and Corey Graves
Starting point is 00:58:55 in their spiel about honoring celebrating AJ's career. and so why celebrate a loser? That's all you like in Atlanta's losers like Goldberg and Sina and AJ or losers. I kill their careers. You should celebrate me. Okay, he's got some heat, but if I'm not complaining about Gunther, I'm complaining about, unfortunately, a set of circumstances he has to work with.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Even though they're booing him, Brian, when they cut to the crowd, people are still, they're happy to be there. They're smiling, booing. Yeah, boo, you. And it just, you know, it just takes all the fun out of it for us, old-timers who remember when they would have given their left nut to be able to stick a knife in us.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Anyway, so at that point, Adam Pierce comes out and he's trying to shut Gunther up, like, no, that's enough, it's enough, but his Mike is feeding the, air, but it's not feeding the PA. So Gunther can't hear him yelling, that's enough, that's enough.
Starting point is 01:00:03 And finally, just as Adam is almost down the aisleway, he realized he's hit in the microphone, trying to make him potted up in the building. And finally he says, God damn it, and that's when it came up. And if it added to the, you know, to the realism of the thing, he's really trying to get this goddamn stopped. And Pierce tells there's poor old Hurricane Helms and four indie guys as security. Take him out. And Gunther laughs, I'm going to leave anyway because I'm of my own free will,
Starting point is 01:00:43 but I think you're all, you know, fucking goofy, whatever. The security guards look like scared children. And it's like their cops are trying to arrest Vince McMahon. they're pleading with him. Please go with us, sir. Please don't hurt us, sir. Just walk with us, if you will. Happy birthday to your granddaughter.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Yeah. But suddenly, out of nowhere, Dragon Lee jumps Gunther. And they have a little flurry, and they get them apart, and they leave, and then they go to the back, and Dragon Lee jumps Gunther again.
Starting point is 01:01:23 And they have a bigger pull apart, and they take Dragon Lee out. I don't want to see it. Dragon Lee fight Goonther unless Goethe just chops his chest so hard that his head rolls into the 14th row but they got Dragon Lee
Starting point is 01:01:39 out there out of there rather and then continuing with promo night Cody walks in and stares at Gunther and then turns left and walks out and makes his entrance and we went into a whole new promo segment but what did you think about the first
Starting point is 01:01:57 promo segment Brian I thought was kind of all right when he did it, you know, maybe a couple of weeks ago. I mean, he's still doing the AJ thing. Obviously, it's AJ night. But then it just goes nowhere. That's just, that's the end of Gunther for the entire night. That seems like kind of a waste. I don't know. And if it was going somewhere, and again, this is not what they're doing, but like if a Brock Lesnar was going to redeem, you know, for all the guys that he's talked down about after he retired them, I'm going to shut you up. Then it's something. But for D'R.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Dragon Lee to be the guy. Not even Cody. Just anyone else. Not even anything against Dragon Lee, but... What about Doc Gallows? Gunther's a main eventer. Guantor's one of their main eventors, and he's not 40 yet, is he? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:45 No. Well, but if he is, he carries it well. That's the point is... He's fresher still somehow. Unless they're just going to have... It's a TV match or whatever, and they're going to have Gunther just knock the fuck out of... of Dragon Lee. I don't know why...
Starting point is 01:03:02 This is two weeks in a row. That's what I'm saying. It's not like this is just a one-time thing. This is two weeks in a row they've done this for Dragon Lee, and that's what's questionable to me, unless they really have big plans for Dragon Lee, but if you're just going to have Gunther squash him, why are you giving us so much... Why is this
Starting point is 01:03:20 taking over the Gunther segments every week? It's Dragon. You're right, it's Dragon. Dragon League. And I've been one to see Gunther and Brock Lester, just because I want to see the match. That's a dream match of mine. Everybody else gets their goddamn dream matches with Okada versus fucking Nagasaki.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Why can't I have my goddamn dream match? But they're not going to do it now because obviously... Obviously, people would actually be interested in it. And that's not what WrestleMania is about. It's not about putting the matches together that people want to see really badly, so you won't get it. Well, but here's the thing. I'm not saying that we won't get it eventually.
Starting point is 01:04:00 but I think they're especially now, they're going to probably go in some kind of different direction, maybe than what they were originally going to go with with Brock. But making Gunther a strong heel and the way they're positioning Brock is a strong heel, they're not going to do it anytime soon. But then here comes Cody out to the ring. And this is our second in, kind of in ring
Starting point is 01:04:27 or out in the arena promo segment. and we're 10 minutes into the show. And they're happy to see Cody. They're singing his song or his name or various things, dirty limericks. They're singing those, whatever. And then he starts talking about AJ and within 10 seconds, boom,
Starting point is 01:04:48 they play the music and here comes the vision, which is getting more near-sighted all the time. And you got Bronson Reed, Paul, Austin Theory and Paul E. And Theory did a couple of good lines. Logan Paul took over. Again, he's an annoying heel. And then basically that was to set up that, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:15 Logan Paul said Bronson Reed is going to win his qualifier for the elimination chamber to go and then do all these things that we've said we're going to fucking do it. It starts right now. And Cody says, well, I know somebody that'll do it. disagree with you. And they play the Uso's music. And here come these two chuckle fucks
Starting point is 01:05:37 from the attic and the music and the yeating. And by the time they get to then they go to a break. I believe they went to a break. Yes, they did. And then when they came back,
Starting point is 01:05:53 El Grande Americano was in there or whatever the fuck. And then 20 minutes into the show, they start the first match, which is the three-way qualifier with Bronson Reed, Jay Uso, and El Grande, Americano, and they went to, medicine went to another break. I'm like, fuck is a hard show to get to the meet up.
Starting point is 01:06:20 But anyway, I hate to beat a dead Samoan, but it stood out here. Jay Uso's timing is. fucking rotten. It just, it there was a style clash amongst everybody here because Reed against Gable
Starting point is 01:06:41 would have been fine. But when you put Jay in the middle, it wasn't jelling for anybody doing anything. Was it for you? I'm not a Jay Uso in-ring fan.
Starting point is 01:06:59 So I was not surprised by what it was and it was exactly what you're describing. It was not congealing. More like it was festering. But anyway, and then everyone, they'd get rid of Gable and they had a little Reed and Jay and then
Starting point is 01:07:19 they'd get rid of the other guy. But finally, in a series of cluster fucks, I'm trying to see if I can recap this, gable gave j a german suplex and then was going to go to the top and do a diving headbutt well when gable gave jay the german suplex and he looked at him and jay was rolling over to his flat of his back to sell and gable goes the top rope jay continues does another entire roll all the way over to the far side of the fucking ring so then gable gets up at the top and he says this fucking where'd the fucking guy go? So he tries to diving headbutt
Starting point is 01:08:07 all the way to the other side of the ring but lands about one foot short and covers him anyway. And then Bronson Reed makes a say by just diving over the top of him and not even really grabbing with not a lot of exertion just pulling
Starting point is 01:08:26 gable off the thing and then immediately sold his arm, turned and looked, he grabbed his bicep and looked at his arm and made the motions you make. And there was no reason, because I didn't notice this really, until I went back. Did you notice it when you watched it first until it developed? No, I didn't see it until we were told that happened. Or until it was obvious that something happened. Well, that's the thing is that then Gable and Uso did something else. and then Gable gave Bronson Reed a German suplex
Starting point is 01:09:07 and got a two count, and that's when Reed turned over again, talked to the referee and said something about his arm or gestured to his arm and they went to commercial break, which was their planned spot, I believe, anyway, because, you know, it didn't look amiss there. But when they came back, there was Uso and,
Starting point is 01:09:32 Gable on the floor by the announced desk fighting, and the doctor was on the other side of the ring checking on Bronson Reed, and they said, well, Reed seems to have suffered an injury, and you never saw him again. So then there was, I mean, you can tell the referee comes over to the other side and tells Jay and then tells Gable something, which was obviously the change of plans. Guess what?
Starting point is 01:10:02 and they got up and tried to milk a superplex thing where they could have a conversation on a top rope and then called something which ended up with Gable getting the ankle lock and Uso rolling through and hitting him with a spear and splash one, two, three. So Jay is now going to the elimination chamber because they had to call an audible because Reed was supposed to win the match,
Starting point is 01:10:32 but he was on the floor incapacitated. And I went back and I can't see how he is torn his bicep is what he's done. And I went back and not just the save where he first, you know, sold his arm, but moves before that, he did a wheelbarrow lift onto gable, but it didn't register any pain or any twinge or sell his arm in any way and the actual rolling save that he did didn't seem to either extend it or in a ridiculously over-exhiper-extend it
Starting point is 01:11:23 there was no pressure or weight on it I don't know how he fucking did it I see some people on social media saying it's when he dove over to break up the pin when O'Grante Americano was trying to pin Jay Uso. Well, but that's the thing is it. When he gets up, he looks right at his arm. I'm watching it right now. But there's no, there's nothing like the other week when, oh, what's his name?
Starting point is 01:11:51 The fucking guy that just debuted Jake Doyle at AEW. When he was DDTed on the apron of the ring, he was holding on to the top of the top. and never let go and you could see that his arm was jerked violently at a sharp angle. This is not that. And I'm not saying that he's not hurt. I'm not saying it's a work or a conspiracy. It's just it had to be some kind of freak fucking thing. Was there something in that wheelbarrow suplex lift thing that he did
Starting point is 01:12:25 that put it on the goddamn edge and then just it snapped like a hot rubber band. I don't know. It could just be the way he landed. I keep watching it now in slow motion. It looks like he, you know, he may have put an entire body weight on that arm. No, that's the other arm.
Starting point is 01:12:43 No, it's the arm that he... No. Look, he turns, he turns a flip. It's the right arm that he tore and it's the left shoulder he lands on. Oh, okay. Let me watch this again. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:58 I'm waiting. Now, watch it again now. Yeah, I don't know what the hell could have done it, yeah. Yeah. See? You know what's funny? His last, when I put into the Twitter search,
Starting point is 01:13:08 Bronson Reed, to see if anyone had a video of it, the first thing that comes up is a tweet he put out a couple days ago, doing bicep curls, listening to Cantera, thinking about all the people I want to punch it ahead. Oh, with my left hand. So, I mean, again. We are in the middle of a weird run where we've seen, over the last month
Starting point is 01:13:33 and AEW Jake Doyle went down and then Eishi went down this past week with WWE it's more significant because these are the main eventers even if you don't talk about Rollins because that's more than a month now Bronbreaker well it's the same group
Starting point is 01:13:50 not even the same promotion that's why Hayman's vision is getting short-sighted he needs to fucking get some binoculars and look further out ahead of staff for his roster Seth Rollins It goes down, gets hurt They add
Starting point is 01:14:08 They add Logan Paul They didn't add Logan Paul Until Seth got hurt Yeah, that's right, after he got hurt Then they bring theory in But Braun even zat out by Braun got hurt Now at least they had fucking three Even now reads hurt
Starting point is 01:14:22 So It's an Agatha Christie novel Not a fucking WrestleMania main event build Do you have to add members? What do you do? No, because that's the sad thing. I mean, Brock Lester is still affiliated with Paul, so there's always a chance that's something
Starting point is 01:14:46 he could do someone's bidding in the video or whatever group. I don't say do bidding like a stooge, but he could be brought into it if it was a gripe that Paul had also. But if you just add people now to Adam, then you've cheapened the specialness of the group. It'd be like throwing in horsemen, which they did, and it cheapen the group, or throwing in everybody in the NWO, et cetera.
Starting point is 01:15:14 And it's only, it's going to be months, not years, that, you know, these guys are going to be out with these injuries, but still it's just right before WrestleMania. And with all of these guys, we're going to be figured into, something obviously and now even if Rollins makes it back
Starting point is 01:15:36 as he start with Logan Paul it just there's a you know that's the problem is you can't just squat down and poop main event guys into the main event group anytime you want them that's why they're so special
Starting point is 01:15:55 but when can you remember anytime where three guys out of an original three-man group that has now been expanded to fucking five have all been hurt within a, what, a four-month period? Not since the drifters. Benny King got out with his life. He was hiding under the boardwalk, hoping they wasn't fucking tired.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Or up on the roof, one or the other. Yeah, he was either low or high. That's where George Clinton got that from. So high, you can't get over it, so low, you can't get under it, so wide. Well, here's a chance to dance our way out of our restrictions and back to Raw. It was 40 minutes into the show now, and we've had two promos at a shortened three-way where the wrong guy won because one of the WrestleMania made of vendors was fucking injured. I don't know if this was the best raw for me to start paying attention to, Brian, do you?
Starting point is 01:17:05 And I guess we should say it here, too. It was later in the show that Michael Cole made the announcement that Bronson Reed had tore his bicep and was out indefinitely. Yeah. So it wasn't like, the old days you had mystery for a day. Like, oh, did he get hurt? What's going to happen? They announced it right away.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Well, but at the same point, I knew that that fucking guy. he dove off the top of the cage and broke his foot or whatever the fuck he's a big tough son of a bitch and he's supposed to win a match to put him into the fucking main event of the pay-per-view this weekend unless he knew he was completely
Starting point is 01:17:47 fucked and there wasn't even used trying there's no way he would have got back in that ring and done something to finish the match So I knew already, well, he would have come in there like the fucking Black Knight, the goddamn Monty Python movie dragging his fucking leg and his teeth. But he knew enough that he, well, why should I win this? Because I'm, I'm fucked anyway.
Starting point is 01:18:17 So just get me the fuck out of here. You feel bad. I mean, how many times has he been hurt right when they were giving him the push? Yeah. Right? Several times it's happened to him. And this is one more thing and then we'll move on to the next topic. But I don't want, well, I shouldn't say that.
Starting point is 01:18:37 Every once while I wish, you know, I'm so sick of this one sub-bitch, I wish he'd just dive on his head. But you don't root for people to be hurt for real. But you can also understand why they are in some cases when they do a lot of stupid things and just the law of average. averages, right? But this was not, he didn't do anything stupid here. Diving off the cage, breaking his foot, that may not have been the most will-advised
Starting point is 01:19:07 thing he's ever done, but there was nothing out of the way here, just a freak fucking thing. And just at the wrong time. Snake bit is what Dennis Condry would say. Well, good luck Austin theory and Logan Paul and Paul Heyman. Let's see what happens to those three. but back to raw. Back to raw.
Starting point is 01:19:30 So then they did 30 minutes of girls' business. And then here came Brock Lester with Paul Lee. So at least Paul Lee's got Brock to fall back on as his whole group just, you know, and it's not good for a man of Paul's age to have stress like this. I worry about him.
Starting point is 01:19:55 But I'll tell you, Brian, did you know this in all seriousness? I noticed this and I wrote this down. Did you notice that I think Pauley is losing weight? Legitimately, he was barely bigger than Brock. In all seriousness, no, I did not notice. No, I'm thinking, hey, you can't say anything about this guy and it doesn't sound like you're making fun of him.
Starting point is 01:20:20 No, I'm serious. He looked, I'm like, fuck, is he going to kill my gimmick? he looked like he's down below 300 so let's keep an eye on him just see if you see him shrinking away possibly it's a flesh eating disease I don't know but he still he'll live a long life even if it is
Starting point is 01:20:40 back to this promo so Paul cuts the pro Brock doesn't have to say a word and it's this is this is wrestling you got the monster that everybody believes in everybody knows is a fucking badass or a fucking, you know, just a human wrecking machine.
Starting point is 01:21:00 And you got the sarcastic, wise-ass manager to cut the promo for him. Paul did better with this than anybody else would have, but there's not a lot of meat on this fucking yard bird here. He had to come out and basically say, well, everybody knows there was two main events at WrestleMania, the world title match and the takers. streak and he broke the Tager's streak. So he took over that spot. Whoever faces
Starting point is 01:21:30 Brock is the main event at WrestleMania. And who's going to face Brock at WrestleMania? Who knows? So and this is probably the truth. So they put up on the screen the dates
Starting point is 01:21:46 that Brock is going to be in are they all raws? I believe they are. I didn't notice actually. Maybe, though. but whatever the fuck, but the dates he's going to be at WWE shows between now and WrestleMania and issues at open challenge. If anybody's mad enough to come down the aisle and get in Brock's face and blah, and suffered the consequences.
Starting point is 01:22:08 He did it great as Paul does and built up Blassner. But I hope somebody good steps up because they've, there's nothing to talk about. They're under eight weeks, and there's nothing to talk about here. Where the manager has to come out, I don't know he's going to face it, WrestleMania, let's see.
Starting point is 01:22:35 If they've got a good plan, then I'll be happy, and I will compliment them. But if people keep dropping and they keep shuffling the fucking deck, because, oh, remember when we talked about the unreal season. When one guy gets out of one thing, you've got to take a guy out of to replace him.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Well, then what does that guy's thing do? Then you got another guy free and a blah, blah, blah. But that was, and then they left. And so Brock made untold amounts of thousands of dollars to come out to the fucking ring, not slip and fall down, and let Paul talk about him. I have which is a heck of a job. So now what? Because this has to be something that matters. And there aren't too many options. You know, we talked about Gunther before.
Starting point is 01:23:37 I said that's a match that actually people would be excited about, whether or not it should happen now or not. I'm just talking about the feeling, the excitement. There aren't a lot of options. What if it's Obafemi? Do you think that would satisfy the fans because at least it's, oh, my God, what's going to happen here? Well, and I say the reason why I don't think it's going to be Gunther
Starting point is 01:23:59 is because they're putting so much effort into still putting heat on Gunther as a complete heel rather than a guy we might respect, blah, blah, blah. If it's Obafemi, Obafemi, Obafemi's got to win. And are they ready to do that? with they better be pretty goddamn sure about Obafemi and what he can do
Starting point is 01:24:31 and whether he can pull it off before they take the the cashé out of Brock Lesnar's bank account by having him do a job and if they can pull it off where Obafemi looks like Tom McGee against Brett Hart
Starting point is 01:24:50 then they've made a superstar if it becomes Tom McGee versus anybody else then they have shit to bed trying to think of other options what about Sammy Zane would that satisfy the fans against who what for to do where against Brock I'm trying to think who would come out there
Starting point is 01:25:12 to challenge Brock I don't I don't see that as I mean again it would be a good match Sammy would be a good match Sammy would be a human crash test dummy and sell his ass off and Brock would look like a monster, but I don't see them using, again, the same thing is why beat Sammy up like that, unless he was going to win and he shouldn't win. Brock's probably going to wrestle a handful of times, one would think,
Starting point is 01:25:42 for this company between now and whenever he's done. And I'd like to see one of them with Gunther. I don't even know that it needs to be the first time Brock gets beat. Maybe Gunther retires Brock at the end of next year, whatever. I just want to see the fucking match. I think it would be just swell. But they've got to be real careful. If lightning strikes four times on Brock Lesner,
Starting point is 01:26:13 then they have ruined anybody beating him being special. he needs to get beat maybe now and maybe at the end and not in between even see what I'm saying then Obafemi may be the best option because I don't think there's a lot of other guys ready to be elevated who are ready to beat Brock and need that. Obafemi would help he just came up they've used them relatively well it would really establish him and you got to think Heyman would be behind it if they actually went with it and that would help. I mean, I don't think it'll be Jericho, because I don't think Jericho's taking all those
Starting point is 01:26:51 suplexes. Oh, fuck, no. My God, Jericho would shatter like a fucking Faberge egg at this point, but if they kept it short and explosive and Heyman laid it out, as long as Obafemi didn't, like, charge and miss and fall out of the fucking ring accidentally, then they could have something. Well, we shall see, right? Kevin Owens is still out with a neck injury for a while.
Starting point is 01:27:24 That ain't coming back. That's not the guy to wrestle your first match back after having a broken neck. No, no. There aren't, I mean, it either has to be a main event or someone. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Could Kevin Owens be in the box? Would be Kevin Steen be trying to get even with me after all these years?
Starting point is 01:27:40 I'll show you. That could be something there. You never know. A lot of people seem to think it'll be Danhausen in the box, but I can't imagine they'd do all this for that. Not unless he's, you know, fucking wearing the sponsor's t-shirt. Right. Not unless he's bringing
Starting point is 01:28:00 Slim Jim with him. Like that's the only way that would work. Here's my pal Slim Jim. All right. Speaking, this is a perfect transition. You know who was up next on Raw's Parade of Terror? Our boy, Javon Evans. who wrestled Kofi Kingston, who was the previous leapy, jumpy, springy, flying high in the air fellow.
Starting point is 01:28:28 And I like Evans better than Kofi. Evans is, what is he, 21 years old? He's been, he was a teenager in the Carolinas, right? Is that where he's from, Georgia, somewhere in the southeast? And I liked him better than Kofi. I mean, Kofi's a pro and he's experienced it, but Evan stood out here. He's working his ass off,
Starting point is 01:28:53 but he's got the facials and the emotion and the timing. I mean, I'm not even talking about the fucking moves. He's a, with that appearance, he's in shape, he's got about 0.2% body fat. Like a young Wyndham.
Starting point is 01:29:15 Barry Windham was still, Barry Windham would be considered one of them with Guire twins next to Javon Evans' level of skinny. Now, come on. Because I mean, Evans is in shape. He's ripped, as Arndt would say. But he's an underdog. He's got the emotion.
Starting point is 01:29:35 He's got the, and he lets things breathe. And he explodes with something. It isn't just the floor exercise routine. And anyway, they did. had a fine match. The way he sold his knee. That was so impressed. Because I was really looking at his facial expressions after you brought that up last time.
Starting point is 01:29:56 And you believe him for a second when he starts selling his knee. Well, and the only reason that I kind of didn't go with it was because I thought just by the law of averages, there's no way this motherfucker just got hurt 10 minutes after Bronson Reed, right? But he did the big back flip off the top rope where he's going to land on the guy, the guy moves. He lands on his feet and rolls through, but he sells his leg. leg, but he sold it for the rest of the match. Even when he was doing it, when he was running to the ropes to jump out,
Starting point is 01:30:27 he was kind of limping and favoring it. So he's got the idea in his head. And I get Grayson Waller and Creed, what's the, I could call it Consequences Creed, is what he was. Xavier Woods. Xavier Woods. They were with.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Kofi so they had a rapper I guess from Atlanta with Javan in his corner and the rapper threw Waller over the desk when the heels tried to fuck Javon and then Javon hit
Starting point is 01:31:02 a cutter off the top remember I said Javon shouldn't do the cutter he should do something else because Cody did the cutter I think Cody would quit doing the cutter the fucking guy with 20 feet the air.
Starting point is 01:31:18 And it actually didn't look because it wasn't perfect when he landed, he didn't drag the guy right down face first. He was going by him, grabbed him by the head
Starting point is 01:31:30 and yanked him down sideways. I think that looks more legitimate. It looks more like that he's just snatching this guy as he's flying through the air than this, they're leaning into Cody's. And here, boss, take me.
Starting point is 01:31:46 but nevertheless, Javon Evans, that boy bouncy, one, two, three. Does Javon Evans have a fan club? Can I join for $4 and get a monthly bulletin, a membership card, and an autographed 8 by 10? You know, he's become one of my favorites, too. I'm watching him against Kofi. I don't usually watch Kofi matches because I hate the new day. But Javon Evans is so good, and he's smooth. And like you said, sold the knee when he did the...
Starting point is 01:32:18 The flip was high up in the air. I mean, it was so impressive for a flip that was just a flip. And then he went right to selling his knee, and he never stopped. Even as he was doing stuff, he would grimace a little bit or grab his knee. And that's what you're supposed to do. He's super impressive and he's fun to watch. So, yeah, big fan of his. Put him over Brock.
Starting point is 01:32:45 You can... I'm for that it might backfire at this point. People might go, all right now, wait a minute. But anyway, that's the point is that's the kind of guy that you can get behind because he's got the energy and the passion and the emotion. It's not all preposterous. And that's why I say I would have everybody else on the roster gear back on flying shit because that's his, that's his lane.
Starting point is 01:33:15 as the kids say. That's his thing. And leave it to him and you've got a fucking megastar. And if you can make it legitimate that he can knock out one of these giants if he's coming from 18 feet in the air
Starting point is 01:33:30 with both of his fucking feet. Just a thought. Anyway, you know what was next? Like Mussolini! On Peach Tree Street, Street, standing in the ring forever. He's the cult of his entrance was in the break. Now with more spots.
Starting point is 01:33:58 And then a video. And then a video. It was a, did that a video promo from someone else? Yeah. A punk entrance. It's got to be a three and a half minute break. Then they come back with a sit down pre-tape can promo of Finn Baller,
Starting point is 01:34:13 talking about punk that goes a while. Then they come back to ringside and cold plugs the celebrities at ringside. And I dare anybody to have heard of any of these fucking people. And I looked at the time. It's been over five minutes since Punk came out and he's still standing in the middle of the way to not only break the enthusiasm for a star's entrance,
Starting point is 01:34:43 but also to deflate your fucking promo. Because I can't imagine how ticked off I would have been uncomfortable. If they had ever said, Jim, go out and cut this 10-minute live promo about all the main event world title angle. You're going to go out with your music and you're going to get the microphone and you're going to stand in the ring for five minutes without to say anything and let the people stare at you. And then we'll give you the cue.
Starting point is 01:35:20 What the fuck? You don't do that not only with your best talker, but with any main event talent you've killed the momentum. And the TV producers may think, oh, if the people see punk on the way to the ring, then they won't change the channel. well fuck you
Starting point is 01:35:45 it's Netflix sorry yeah they'd have to change the whole goddamn network they'd have to actually get off of net it's not like oh let's see what's on sci-fi right you have to get off goddamn Netflix but anyway so having said that
Starting point is 01:36:04 it was a good promo a great promo for anybody else a good promo for punk who again had nothing to say and you could tell really had to make up his own because he he tied Finn Baller and Roman Raines in with the motif of he doesn't like what ifs well what if this got
Starting point is 01:36:29 and what if that got blah blah blah but that was he was he was just trying to sell these matches which he did finished with a mic toss he's the best in the world. His name's Siam punt. But there's no...
Starting point is 01:36:50 The best thing is Roman Rain's going to be there next Monday in Indianapolis and he might just punch him in his stupid fucking face. But other, there was no captivating new groundbroken here besides selling what was already going on. And there's a place for that. But on this show, it's starting to get a little dreary.
Starting point is 01:37:11 How you tell me, I mean, it was fine for what it was and what it was was not much. See, and Punk didn't do anything wrong, but they didn't book him to do anything. We just saw Brock Lesnar and Paul Heyman come out there and announce nothing. So here's Punk doing a promo about Bauer, and then it almost has to be like, now let me shift gears to the feud that you guys care about, me and Roman. But at least unlike the promo with Brock, he knew who he was actually going to wrestle. Yeah, like I said, it was fine. It was kind of a standard.
Starting point is 01:37:43 the baby face will be here and he'll have something to say this week with no angle or anything it was uh it was it was fine i mean i don't know what else to say it wasn't can't say like it was awful or it was a waste it was you had punk there he got the goonther treatment come out there do a promo get the hell out of here if there was a good show around the gunther and punk promos but the only notable thing about this show so far is been brosurried got hurt and then we had a women's three-way and yeah and then
Starting point is 01:38:20 actually another good thing about the show the amazing AJ Stiles video that they edited and now they're working with T&A they got access to the T&A footage brilliant editing I just I love their studios production work like that that to me was just fabulous Did you have any comments on his fine music video? It was really well done. You've always been a big Creed fan. You've got an autographed Creed poster in your office.
Starting point is 01:38:54 I've never been a Creed fan. I used to make fun of the Creed fans years ago, and they would argue with me about my music, but I was right and they were wrong. But this video was good. It almost made me like Creed. It almost made me like Creed. Not quite.
Starting point is 01:39:07 Not quite. What did you think? I mean, all night, they were showing various guests in the back who all coincidentally work as producers there or whatever it is, but, you know, P.D. Williams and Bobby Rude, they had Abyss, Chris Parks as Abyss. I was actually looking forward to like, I saw Jeremy Borash also. Jeremy Borash has got to be younger than me. He, he had such a wonderful head of hair where he looks like now like a big toe. What happened? The wrestling business
Starting point is 01:39:43 That's what happened. Planet Jarrett. That's what happened. But my point is they show all these people in the back for 30 seconds. They say who they are. They identify them. I think they even had graphics. I was expecting some kind of big thing at the end where, and here are AJ's, you know, long time enemies and friends and opponents. That's where Ralph Edwards brings out the people in AJ's life. When they did it for Rick Flair for his retirement, and again, that was a long time ago at this point. It was Rick Flair's one of his retirements. They had all these guys. Here's Ricky the Dragon steamboat. Here's Greg the Hammer Valentine. And they all came out. They all got a pop. And if you're a long-time wrestling fan,
Starting point is 01:40:24 you kind of like that. You kind of like seeing the guys you haven't seen in a while, come out and just walk to the ring. Just get in the ring and stand there. That's the way he used to look in the ring. Whatever it is. They never give you that. They never give you that.
Starting point is 01:40:39 You know what they should have done? They should have said in A.J. you go. Here's a figure from your past. Claire Lynch, everybody. Claire, come on out. Oh, come on now. That's a step too far. I was hoping. I had my fingers crossed. Like, please have Dixie. Please let Dixie get booed out. Please let Dixie get booed out of the building in Atlanta. Please. I bet you, I bet you, I bet you, AJ's wife would have hop the rail. If that, but here's the thing. This, I think, was the best promo that A.J. Stiles has ever done. because it was a nice, humble promo.
Starting point is 01:41:12 He was being himself, and he was being genuine. And he's, I've just, I've said before, you know, AJ's physical talent was off the charts. He's never been the fucking guy, ah, the promo. He's going to deliver, give AJ 15 minutes. But because this was, he was being real and being himself, it was imperfect. And he remembered his T&A days in Japan,
Starting point is 01:41:43 WrestleMania. He's done everything except be a full-time father. And there's the family in the front row. And all the world titles that he's won are not as important as having the best wife in the world. And he gives his wife a nice speech. And not many people get to go out the way that they came here, or where they came in.
Starting point is 01:42:07 But he did 10 years at the time. from Rumble 2016 to to 2026. And he didn't leave his gloves in the ring there at the Rumble because he is a man of his word but he wanted to bring him home
Starting point is 01:42:22 to Atlanta and leave him at home. And then he takes off his jacket and his gloves and he puts him in the middle of the ring and tells the fans he loves them. They were fucking great. Again, that's one of the best
Starting point is 01:42:37 promos, if you can call it that, that AJ's ever done, and they did that wonderfully. And then they do the false credits and everybody, all the talent, the producers, you saw Triple H on down, everybody came out to the entrance way to applaud him. And then you hear the bong and the blackout, and there weren't a lot of lights for a while.
Starting point is 01:43:02 Could they not get taker on the motorcycle and get him through the goddamn door? was happening there? I think, you know, the lights were out so you couldn't really see. I think they were trying to drag Michelle McCool off the bike. It may have taken a little longer than they expected. Well, here comes Undertaker, and instead of it being the Undertaker, it's the American badass with the kid didler, I mean, kid rock music. And boy, that, that gimmick has fallen. Takeer speaks like a normal personality,
Starting point is 01:43:40 comes out and puts his kindly old hand on AJ's shoulder, and they did legitimately apparently surprise AJ with this. He didn't know this was going to happen. And you could see he was kind of puzzled like, I have no idea where this is going. But Taker announced that he's going into the 26 WWE Hall of Fame. And that got a big pop and the family came in and everything.
Starting point is 01:44:06 Jay, we figured out another way to prolong this and not get you to go to A.E.W. How would you like to go into the Hall of Fame? It was a very nice moment. It was a very, very nice moment. It was. Except just the takers lost all of his aura. But also, can I say again, just please write this down. Somebody spray painted on a brick wall somewhere where people remember I said it,
Starting point is 01:44:33 AJ Stiles is not going to go wrestle in A.E.W. he just he's not there are still people who think that and you have to wonder if WWE thinks that that's why they're doing everything they're giving him a send-off that they have given very few wrestlers ever so unless this is just a sign of the way things are going to go in the future I mean is every one of these guys going to get a send-off like this well think about this and no not but he's not every one of those guys
Starting point is 01:45:01 he has had been there for quite some time and performed at a high level of a special blah, blah, blah, but also, yes, they are. Think about the level of programming that they have to produce now, and the more times that they can get legends and or almost retired people to come out and talk about it, the more time they're filling up. And then again, at this level with these prices of everything and the rights fees they get for programming and content, AJ Stiles Hall of Fame merchandise made gross enough over the course of the weekend to justify AJ Stiles as fucking pay on whatever deal they're still going to have him on to sell all this shit.
Starting point is 01:45:53 See, that's the thing is it's not like they're just being turned away now. At that level, they're still, that's why Jericho, as I've said many times, and I'll say again, they could pay Jericho $5 million to come back for a year for three pay-per-view matches, some TV appearances to shoot an angle and talk about it. And we'll put you in a Hall of Fame and we'll do a merchandise deal and still make money on it. It's just not even a goddamn issue at this point. He just can't make any money in the company he works for or has been working for now. Well, he can make it.
Starting point is 01:46:35 He can't draw it. But that's with with with with their level of business the wwe's doing now they can pay millions of dollars for guys for limited appearances just because depending on who they are. They should do the Brock thing with everyone just put up the here's the schedule these are the dates I'll be appearing at over the next six months if you want to see me I guess seen us who am I going to be wrestling I don't know doesn't matter somebody step up it doesn't matter
Starting point is 01:47:06 Well, like I said, it doesn't matter who you want to wrestle. A very nice job they did on the tribute and the retirement ceremony for AJ. I just wish they would have actually introduced his former opponents and tag team partners and everything. It would have been cool. Even the current guys like Nakamura and Dragon Lee. It would have been a cool thing. They should have had Bill Barron's there.
Starting point is 01:47:28 Bill Barron's. Wouldn't that have been something? He was AJ's first champion. And he had a wild sign. him 15 minutes. He can, oh, yes, but he was championing the cause of AJ Stiles from the very beginning. And I guarantee you, Bill Barron's can fill up 15 minutes of air time. And now, AJ, another guest from your past.
Starting point is 01:47:52 This man had you pulled from him by TNA, say a lot of Gabe Sapolsky. Yeah, it could have been a lot of fun if they really had gone all the way with it. But that was WWE Raw, another action. We'll see who gets hurt next week. Jim. AJ Stiles will now be retired. A lot more time to focus on his nutrition, a lot more time to focus on exercise.
Starting point is 01:48:17 Amazing seeing the shape of him. A lot more time to focus on eating the right thing. And of course, you and I both enjoy our Factor meals, and we have great deals for Factor meals to tell everyone about. Why don't we talk about our great friends at Factor. well these are literally meals on wheels because they they put them in a truck and they deliver them to you and unless that truck is actually a hovercraft the meal has been on a wheel folks if if you're like a j styles and you're jetting off here and there in this this busy world
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Starting point is 01:50:28 They didn't know what to fucking do. Those are all different meals. They are different meals and they know what to do. Well, they didn't know what to do when I wanted it all in the state. They sent me a bucket and sit here, just tied around your neck. They don't send out buckets, but back to what you're saying, that's fact. Yes, the new muscle pro collection supports strength and recovery. You sit down and you eat this and what they do is they send you a 10 pound fork.
Starting point is 01:50:54 And therefore, every time you eat one of these dinners, you've done like 30, 40 curls. Just remember to switch hands or elsewise it'll look like you jack off. all the time. They will be sent to your meals. There are no extra size forks or any other utensils. Let's make sure we don't specify or give examples of things that will not be sent. Well, does that mean you can't still jack off if you want to? Back to the meals, Jim. Okay. They're always fresh, never frozen. So eat them quick. Don't sit around for three or four weeks or it's not our fault. And they're ready at about two minutes with no prep and no stress and again
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Starting point is 01:52:27 But again, 50% off your first box and free breakfast for a year. Boy, howdy. Just, and I'll tell you what, I think if you go on a diet where you only eat the calorie-smart factor meals, then you will definitely lose weight. I did not because I liked them so much. I started eating two of them at a time. And that wasn't smart for the calorie. We're not making any promises or guarantees, but we're talking about food that
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Starting point is 01:53:57 We're almost at the end, but there's still plenty of time for more action and adventure here on the program. Where are we going to have the adventure? Well, we'll talk with our traveling. agent. We were going to take a nice trip and do a live remote from Mexico, but we've decided to rule that out at the present time. For the time being, yes, another time perhaps. Well, Jim, a follow-up, I know we've been saying for a few weeks now, we're going to do retro figures, and we're going to do them momentarily, but a follow-up on Power Town that has come into our offices
Starting point is 01:54:27 here. Oh, well, wait, now, are you going to play the jingle? Won't you tell us about Power Town? Won't you tell us about Power Town? With jingles like that, I'm not exactly sure why the business didn't work out. But Jim, back to Power Town. We've been talking about their trials and tribulations and everything. And just recently, the fact that emails were bouncing back, people still don't have figures. Magnum T.A. threatened the beat-up fans or just stop helping fans.
Starting point is 01:55:03 Greg Gagnas signed up all these families. No one's received any money or figures. A lot of things happening. Where Steve Rosenthal has been one of the questions. Yeah, he was the big toy guy, the big expert from the 80s, that was behind the driving force behind getting this whole thing started. What's he got to say for himself? Well, apparently Steve Rosenthal posted in a Facebook group
Starting point is 01:55:32 in a threat about Power Town and any threat about Power Town means people complaining about Power Town responding to someone named Craig with four emoji eye rolls Craig Power Town has not in caps and is not also in caps
Starting point is 01:55:54 going out of business we understand the implications assumed by our lack of updates with the decision rendered today, R.E. Tariffs, and with Chinese New Year ending, Oh, no, oh no! Power Town will soon be providing updates regarding Remco's, TNA, and Ultras 2, and then all in caps now,
Starting point is 01:56:20 all orders will be fulfilled. Any thoughts on this? Well, Fray, he's pulling out all the greatest hits, because first of all, they had said, well, were these tariffs, the tariffs, the tariffs, okay, they took in thousands and thousands of dollars from people. So unless they were stupid business people
Starting point is 01:56:46 and going to sell the figures for basically the same thing as they were paying for them, they had a markup, they had a profit margin. A 20% tariff comes in. You can do something about it, quicker than a year or two years. Like, okay, let's just go ahead and not make the 20%
Starting point is 01:57:06 we were going to make, but at least give these people their shit. Yeah, by the way, they didn't know. They didn't know the Supreme Court was going to rule on this. Well, hold on. What if that hadn't happened? This predates the idea that tariffs were even going to be a thing. They were starting this deal
Starting point is 01:57:19 in 2021. And then tariffs just became a thing when pig shit became president again, started going off. So, but then also the Chinese New Year. I heard that from Figures Toy Company one time
Starting point is 01:57:35 that we were trying to get everything in the way of the figures that we were working on done and on the boat before the Chinese New Year. I said, why? They shut down like two or three weeks
Starting point is 01:57:51 and nothing would happen. Okay, they'd be working on last year's Chinese New Year. if the Chinese New Year was a fucking cause of all these delays. It's just everything. If they were experienced in any part of this as Steve Rosenthal was or supposed to be, they would have known that many of these things might take place. But it would have been easier or quicker than two years or three years or whatever
Starting point is 01:58:30 to settle these things. We understand the implications assumed by our lack of updates. Okay, give an update. What the fuck does that mean? We understand that our silence makes people think we're guilty. It's a bizarre way for
Starting point is 01:58:49 Steve Rosenthal to pop off out of nowhere. But then after, out of nowhere when nobody's heard anything from him and then after that statement, then he's gone again, right? Then he's just, you know, not responding to people or blocking people or whatever happens.
Starting point is 01:59:05 However, after this sign of hope for people who have money tied up with Power Town, where he's saying, now that the Chinese New Year has ended, and now the tariffs have been rendered in some form to be illegal, we will always... And he doesn't drive this car often anyway, either. And by the way, we're not talking about we will now get them on the boat. We will now get them made. That's what he's saying here.
Starting point is 01:59:33 Well, again, a sign of hope. Someone from Powertown at this late date in early 2026, guaranteeing that orders will be fulfilled. A day later, this was sent to me. There's an artist named Hal Haney. If I'm pronouncing that correctly, he apparently has done a lot of wrestling art and apparently did art for Powertown.
Starting point is 02:00:00 Here's a series of a mess. messages from Instagram. Here's the deal. Power Town owes me $8,000. They haven't paid me in over a year. I'm done being respectful about it. Only thing I'll say is I love, in caps, Magnum T.A.
Starting point is 02:00:21 That guy is a real one. Anybody else can eat the whole goddamn skin chimney. That's the first message. And we get the next one here. So whatever you do, this ain't on Magnum. Terry Allen is a good fucking dude, and he wants to do right by the fans. Anybody else can eat the entire semen sandwich. I'm sensing a theme here.
Starting point is 02:00:52 And I hope you all get your money or your figures. I am sensing a pattern. And I hope you all get your money or your figures. but Power Town is about to learn that fucking over an artist with 75,000 social media followers Let me go to the next one here Oh, that was the end of that sentence There was a period there
Starting point is 02:01:13 And it just ended like that Steve Rosenthal did not respond to me When I literally begged in caps Begged him to pay me what was owed So I could pay for my wife's cataract surgery and my godder's braces. Oh, no. So he could suck the hair off my dick.
Starting point is 02:01:35 Thanks a lot, Steve. You compassionate bitch. And then he apparently posted a image of his final text exchange with Steve, which is basically him asking for some of the money. And the last time he heard back from Steve Rosenthal was 2024. Jesus Christ. So that's their artist. Again, you can't come up with $8,000 to pay this guy
Starting point is 02:02:06 whose wife has to have surgery when you're allegedly the head honcho or one of them of this big figure enterprise going to take over the world. Yeah, Greg Ania said they were going to be in Target and Walmart, I believe. Well, they are a target. And they might be hiding at Walmart. But I, and that's the thing is, again, I told Greg, and boy, he wasn't going to break K Fabe on this. One of the things I said to him, I said, Greg, you could understand we're not, Stan Lane, Bobby
Starting point is 02:02:40 Eaton, Dennis Condry, myself are not interested in this offer because the arrangement that we have and what we can do on our own, we can make more money individually for ourselves than you could make us with this deal. you can at least acknowledge that. Oh, no! What? No, we're going to be in stores. We're going to be at Walmart and everything. I said, do it.
Starting point is 02:03:05 Okay. But I don't know that the average member of the population is going to wake up one morning and say, I think I'll go to Walmart and get my Dennis Conry figure. Whereas we have the platform here also to sell our thing and do our thing. So that's what we are going to do is our thing. and you do the other thing. And he's doing another thing. We pay our artists.
Starting point is 02:03:37 But yeah, that's the Power Town Update. So the head of the company who has been radio silent says everyone will get what you paid for. And then the artist who did the artwork on the packaging for what we're supposed to get says he hasn't been paid. Which goes along with Jordan Gray saying she didn't get shit, which goes along with Reggie Morton. son saying they didn't get shit, but which goes along with the guy breaking his silence coming out and saying you're going to get everything and I understand why that my silence may have been off-putting and then go silent again. Well, we will stay on top of this story until the arrests are made.
Starting point is 02:04:15 But Jim, why don't we talk about some retro wrestling figures here today? They've been building up on my desk. My favorite one right here, we got to start with this. From Latuni, it's the Antonio and... Mnoki, LJN style rubber figure, and this thing is gorgeous. They've got the right chin, the pelican jaw. It's got the classic 70s hairdo and sideburns, a removable red towel. I was about to ask about the towel.
Starting point is 02:04:48 Black trunks, black boots. And if you move its, you can move its arms unlike the regular LJN's. And if you press a button here, it blames Shinma. no this is actually a very very nice figure finally an Antonio Inoki LJN style unfortunately I believe Latuni is sold out of these well then now you're just milking us AJ if you get any more in stock let us know and maybe we could do something for the listeners but yeah these are I didn't expect them to sell out but apparently Antonio Inoki figures have become quite popular in the last year
Starting point is 02:05:21 well said now you again you've just you've you've you've held something over our head that we're not going to be able to have. But does it have a special function where it will play the theme music? So are we going to have to hear that now, or is that still just a feature of the keychain? It's still just a feature of the keychain, which is buried on the other side of the desk right now, behind baseball cards, so I can't get to it. Good. And hopefully under a foot of snow.
Starting point is 02:05:47 All right, Jim. Well, that's insulting. But again, this is from Latuni, part of their wrestling giant series. They got a whole bunch of Randy Savages and a whole bunch of other stuff. Check that out. proof that many other companies can get these figures to the fans that buy them because they're sold out sometimes. Yeah, I mean, they're all kind of made in the same place, and they're all getting on the same boats, and they're all somehow getting here. It's kind of amazing.
Starting point is 02:06:10 Jim from Figure Collections, part of their Power Packed Wrestlers, excuse me, series. Andre the Giant in the 3 and 3 quarter inch style of the classic Star Wars figure. This one, though, is the very first Andre the Giant in his green and red 1992 Mexican gear. No! You always see the, you know, maybe the 70s, Andre, or usually it's the black singlet, or maybe when it turned blue. You never see green and red almost a Christmas variant, but he actually wore this. I don't know if you've seen the photos before. Yes, oh yeah, the unexplored era of Andre, when he's...
Starting point is 02:06:52 He went to Mexico because Vince wouldn't book him because he was afraid he wouldn't be able to get in the ring. I think he was working with Yokazuna when he was still Kokina down there, wasn't he? I think, yes, they did have, they crossed paths briefly. The tallest wrestler and the widest wrestler. Well, here it is. As an Andre the Giant Collector, this is a really cool one because no one has made one of these before. So once again, figure collections, the power-packed wrestlers, green variant Andres. Dre the Giant.
Starting point is 02:07:25 Jim, I don't know what I'm going to say about the next one, so please don't make any comments. Just bear with me for a moment. Okay. There's a line of toys I really like, the ring rat figures. And it's not what it sounds like, and that's why I asked you to stay out of this, because I knew you would cause trouble. That's just...
Starting point is 02:07:43 But the ring rat figures... I've known a few ring rats that had figures that were remarkable. Well, these are a different set of figures here. but I don't know if I should plug them, but they're really, really cool. And if you're the guy who makes them, let me know if you want me to publicly say you're making these on the biggest wrestling podcast in history.
Starting point is 02:08:04 Just want to make sure before I do it, because you think this some under the table kind of stuff, that old, the flusy from Denver didn't want her figure made? Well, I think, was this kind of a reverse plastercaster business where one of the boys in the 80s was plaster casting the, the rats so that we could make action figures out of them?
Starting point is 02:08:26 There was a request for you to stay out of this because of this. Instead of the G.I. Joe Kung Fu grip, is there a neck that bobbles up and down, up and down, up and down? Again, not those sorts of ring rats, but if you're the man behind the wrestling tycoon ring rats, let me know how much attention you want.
Starting point is 02:08:50 Yeah, if you're the guy behind the rats, let me know. We got some business for you, and we might even tell others. Well, Jim, moving on here. KWK, the K-Fave Heroes toy line. We mentioned these were coming up. I finally got them in hand. Well done. There are three variants, black and purple, pink and black and blue with yellow and pink. For all those diehard, well-done fans, every variant you can ever... I remember the blue. and yellow and pink.
Starting point is 02:09:23 They wore that many times when they worked in Smoggy Mountain Wrestling. Timothy Well and Stephen Dunn. They were well done. Did they get a fair shake? Were they better than they had a chance to show? I think they were really only medium rare. They didn't get cooked all the way. I think both of them were,
Starting point is 02:09:44 it was a problem of the territories going away. Both of them were talented enough to be high on the card in a variety of the territories, but they were not going to go to the top in the WWF at the time or WCW. Right. But they were a good middle card tag team of heels that knew how to work and how to get baby faces shit across. Well, again, here they are, and you could remove their heads if you want to get the
Starting point is 02:10:18 bow ties out of all. Well, and that may have helped their careers in Rex. King's case at least, but... Well, no, because they have bow ties. So if you want to remove the bow tie, you have to take the head off and it's very easy to do. I thought you meant, maybe just transplant somebody else's head on. Was Rex King
Starting point is 02:10:34 not the brains of the group? He was not the brains of the organization. All right, Jim. Well, our next figure here from figure collections, Russell Something Wrestlers, Kona, Brian Adams. So it's Brian Adams.
Starting point is 02:10:52 as classic crush gear, but they don't call him crush. So it's enough to avoid any potential lawsuits. Because at one point he was Kona Crush when he was no longer a demolitionist, but instead was a guy that hung out in Hawaii waiting for fucking weed deals. The last time we saw him on TV as kids, he was the third member of demolition, all painted up, and eventually they got rid of axe and it was just him and smash. The next time we see him, he's like on a beach like, Shaka, bra. I'm from Kona.
Starting point is 02:11:27 What? Where did this come from? You were all in the metal and leather the other time I saw you. But Kona Crush, any thoughts on Brian Adams? And specifically the finish... What was it that he got in trouble for? But go ahead. Well, what are your thoughts on the finishing maneuver of the crush where you just squeeze the guy's head from both sides?
Starting point is 02:11:50 To be honest, I thought it was genius. for like Plowboy Frazier, because it was a way for him to do something without actually doing anything. But Brian Adams could do for his size of a few different things. So that's probably one of the last
Starting point is 02:12:07 finishes I would have given him. Even if he was strong, it was also boring. But I'm trying to remember now, was it drugs or guns that the authorities claimed that he had too many of? Was it both? well that's why I'm asking you because you're the quick on the Google drawer hold on me on me but
Starting point is 02:12:29 but it was right about that time that he was from he was living in Hawaii for real and I guess they were trying to give him a realistic gimmick and kona crush came up but then I think isn't that what derailed kona crush was getting arrested well I don't know he turned heel let's see uh He turned heel in late 93 against Randy Savage. That's what I remember. That's we wrestled at WrestleMania. That's right. And at WrestleMania, he hung him from the ceiling or whatever the fuck was going on there.
Starting point is 02:13:02 After a brief stint in jail, Adams was brought back in July 96. When did he go to jail and what for? Because when he came back in 96, he morphed into a member of the DOA with the Harris boys and Brian Lee. On March 13th, 1995, Adams was arrested at his home in Kona, Hawaii, after narcotics officers searched his home and discovered 500 units of anabolic steroids without prescriptions, and several unregistered automatic firearms. He was released on bail. He was sentenced to five years probation and pleaded no contest to 11 counts of drugs and weapon charges.
Starting point is 02:13:47 There you go. Yeah, that kind of made Kona Crush not persona non grata for a little while around there. Right, Jim, a couple more here. From Hastel Toys, the grapplers and gimmicks line, the first ever Hasbro-style Salvatore sincere, Tom Brandy. Let's talk a little bit about him. What are your thoughts on the Salvatore sincere gimmick? and, you know, Tom Brandy was a fan first because
Starting point is 02:14:17 in the wrestling exchange, which I own the rights to, the great magazine by Gary Mancuso and Gary Kamensack, he contributed a photo, like the fan photo of the month, was Tom Brandy. So he was a fan, he got into the business. Let's talk about him, let's talk about the gimmick. I like Tom Brandy, and he was a big kid, good-looking guy. I mean, 6-3 or whatever and 2.30 and good-looking attention.
Starting point is 02:14:44 Italian fellow. The dark hair, Dennis Coraluzzo used to love to use him on shows up there. He's from, well, he was from the New Jersey, New York area. And probably... Pennsylvania, I think. Pennsylvania. Same thing. It's a little bit to the other direction.
Starting point is 02:15:03 But he was the only guy that prospered. When Vince went on that binge of giving everybody that we brought in for that little deal horrible gimmicks because that they were complaining Vince was especially our roster is thin we need more matchups for television so well you know yes you need to sign some more main event superstars but we also we could just bring in some guys that can work to put our regular guys over on TV instead of using the job guys that are dish rags and just have a little you know a little upgrade and out of all of them
Starting point is 02:15:45 whether there's Tracy Smothers Tony Anthony Bill Irwin fucking a variety of guys Tom Brandy benefited from that because Sal Sincere was a better gimmick than just poor old Tom Brandy
Starting point is 02:16:00 and of course it was over the top and silly like they all were at that point in time but at least Tom took it and ran with it he wasn't a embarrassed or ashamed of it like the rest of the guys were. He liked the big, fuck, it was, as I remember, pink and red jacket and a big hat and he's Italian and talks like a dad.
Starting point is 02:16:26 And he worked his ass off in his matches. He worked hard and tried to do the best he could with it. And so at least he got some element of a run there with a gimmick that he could use in other places where the rest of those guys, they hated going out there and doing that shit. And once their run was up, they never wanted to do those gimmicks again. So he was the best one out of the bunch.
Starting point is 02:16:54 And then what is the real story? Did he buy the Patriots gimmick or he bought the rights to it? Or did he not buy it at all and just told people? You know what I'm talking about? Oh, good Lord. I remember I can't, to be honest, I can't remember the details, but I don't understand how he could have ever bought the Patriot gimmick, because who would you buy that from? Jerry Lawler? And it was when Del Wilkes was alive, too. It wasn't like, you know.
Starting point is 02:17:24 But that's what I'm saying. But Del Wilkes was, Del Wilkes was the patriot that everybody thinks of. But Jerry Lawler did a comic strip about a masked patriotic wrestler called the Peelpsons. Patriot in 1972 for Wrestling Monthly. So I'm just, how do you trademark something
Starting point is 02:17:44 or buy the rights to something that apparently had not been trademarked? I don't know. Actually, I own the trademark
Starting point is 02:17:51 and the rights to that magazine. Well, but I mean, to the magazine and hence, but still that might be a legal
Starting point is 02:17:58 battle over the comic strip. Yeah. With at least, you know, do you own the character or do you just own
Starting point is 02:18:06 what appeared in magazine that you own, whereas the originator, the artist owns the character, blah, blah, blah. Was it a work for hire? Because Lawler was wrestling by the end. He was just doing that shit for fun for the magazine. But again, I don't know if there's a line between that Patriot and the other Patriot, although Del Wilkes became the Patriot. Was that named after the Lawler strip?
Starting point is 02:18:30 Because that's what all of you know. It was in global, right? Uh, yeah. Eddie would have easily stolen something of Lawlers. Absolutely. But then Dell took it everywhere else and established it. You know, the first time I saw him is when he went to WCW was Johnny Gunn in 1992, late 92. And I guess the story is that Bill Watts just like took his photo to all the female secretaries in the office.
Starting point is 02:18:57 Like, do you think this guy's handsome? Do you like this guy? And then hire him. And he was like the guy, I didn't know they were called Mullets yet. But I knew everyone had him. But he was the guy I realized, like, the mullet's over. Like, when I saw him there with the mullet teamed up with Tom Zink, I was like, I knew it was over.
Starting point is 02:19:14 But then he didn't really get a break between there and WWF. It's kind of crazy that a guy with that look and that size wasn't signed by anyone. And could talk and could talk with an authoritative voice that, and remember when he was the trooper, because he, Dell started, since he was from South Carolina, he actually. got broken in originally by Mula. And he was, they call him the state trooper or just the trooper?
Starting point is 02:19:45 I might be thinking of Dale Veezy and fucking buddy Lee Parker with the state. They were the state patrol. Dell was the trooper. He was the trooper in the AWA as the AWA was dying. And then he became the patriot. But it wasn't his fault. He was trying to find the murderer. All right. Well, we've, I think, confused the conversation of Del Oaks and Tom Brady somehow combined.
Starting point is 02:20:06 their two histories together there. But there it is, Salvatore Sincere. One last thing here, Jim. Where is this? There it is. From Recollect Retro-Creations, that's W-R-E-Ccollect, Recollect Wrestling Creations, and Adrian Adonis flower shop
Starting point is 02:20:24 play set. Okay, first of all, that's brilliant. That's actually genius. And second of all, can y'all make your name any harder? It is a, Adrian, it looks just like the set from the, classic 1986 superstars of wrestling, and you can use your vintage and retro figures to recreate classic moments from Adrian Adonis's talk show.
Starting point is 02:20:47 From Recollect Retro creations, this is so fucking cool. And there it is... Adrian Adonis, I just have to say, Adrian Adonis, one of the better in-ring workers physically at one point in the wrestling business, and it ended up 400 pounds doing a segment called the flower shop and looking like fucking Betty Davis in the closing scenes of whatever happened to baby Jane and made more money doing that. There was something like very disturbing about him.
Starting point is 02:21:20 It wasn't even just like, hey, they gave him a gimmick as being like this flamboyant gay character out of nowhere. There was something about him, like him having that gimmick and him before that gimmick. And just there was like a nastiness or some kind of weird vibe you would get. off him, unlike any other wrestler. And I think because he was, I think he probably was so disgusted with what he was being made to do that he just went all the way with it and became as disgusting as possible. You know, a few months back, WWE and Mattel put out a
Starting point is 02:21:53 Piper's Pit Play set, and it came with a Piper and an Orndorf and a Bob Orton. And the Bob Orton had an optional pink hat from when he was all of a sudden Adrian Adonis's bodyguard on the flower shop against Piper's Pit. But there it is retro figures, and of course, if you want some Jim Cornett figures, they're available right now at Cornett's collectibles at Jimcoronet.com. And Midnight Express figures,
Starting point is 02:22:20 while they last, are available as well, and at the lowest prices they've ever been offered. We've extended our holiday sale for the first part of 2026. Well, Jim, we talked about retro figures. We talked about Power Town, but some people need some help with power. Some people need more power. They need power on the go.
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Starting point is 02:23:17 You need to charge your headphones. You need to charge your watch. Need to charge your Kindle. Need to charge your pacemaker. You need to charge your vibrator. No matter what you need to charge, they've all got different cords. Everything's just all fucked up. and you can't plug two things into the same cord anyway because you can't roller skate in a buffalo herd either.
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Starting point is 02:24:26 And you just plug everything into this after you've charged it up and boom, charges your phone as fast as it possible. possibly can be charged. It's got 10,000 millie amp hours of capacity. So if you, let's say you want to take your Aunt Gertrude's reading light, it's got a frilly shade on it, and it's sort of painted in a kind of a Chinese dragon fashion on the porcelain base, and you've got that on the plane with you,
Starting point is 02:24:54 and it's in the seat next to you, but you've got to plug it in to turn it on so you can read your Aunt Fannie's murder mystery novel. You plug it into the power bank. Brian, you've been there here many times. You just got to read Aunt Fannie's murder mystery novel. No. You plug it in the power bank, you turn the light on, and then you've lit up the whole
Starting point is 02:25:13 airplane. And you know what? I figured, I said, I wonder what would happen if you took all of these cords and plugged them into the power bank itself. So in actuality, you're creating a power loop
Starting point is 02:25:28 that will continue revolving, revolving, revolving, and revolving. And Brian, I ended up, I opened a hole in the space time continuum. And unicorns came out right in my backyard. Okay, listen, this is nothing anyone has to worry about, certainly nothing that happened to you. But ladies and gentlemen, except for the unicorn, he was horny. I guess he was unhorn.
Starting point is 02:25:52 Well, I've been over to pick up the MagSafe fucking wireless charger bank and he speared me right in the ass. All right, ladies and gentlemen. And folks, you can also stick your phone to this thing. it sticks to it magnetically. That's right. So that way it just charges without even being plugged in, and that way you won't lose your phone
Starting point is 02:26:08 because it's connected to another goddamn. And if you take the power bank and you attach that to like an end table, then you won't lose your phone or your power bank because it'll be connected to an end table. Or your end table. Let's say you set the end table down and you wander off and you forget where that is.
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Starting point is 02:28:53 Jim, let's get a few questions and a few topics and get the hell out of here. I have a question here sent via the Cult of Cornet Facebook group by Kane Michael. I have some questions about MSG... Wait a minute. Is there a comma? It seems like that would be Michael Cain. Well, this... I enjoy his film.
Starting point is 02:29:12 This man's name is Cain Michael. I have some questions about MSG's 1996 Survivor Series pay-per-view that I believe Jim can answer. Uh-oh. Jim was the first and only person on commentary to call Sonny a slut. Obviously, this was okayed by Vince McPurvert, but what was the first and only person on commentary to call Sonny a slut?
Starting point is 02:29:34 the process of it being done. So let's stop there. First question, you calling Sonny a slut on commentary. That's a big step for Vince McMahon. Well, I might not have known that at the time because I figured we're on pay-per-view. I didn't
Starting point is 02:29:50 clear it. I just said it. I can't. Did I say how the, I said it in such a way that I figured I could get away with it. I'm trying to remember because it's been 30 years. But it one time I tried to back into it in
Starting point is 02:30:06 in Dallas, in world class, when I was cutting a promo on Sunshine on the Fort Worth show, Saturday night, KTVT. I figured, well, we're after 10 o'clock on Saturday night. We're getting Saturday night live. Maybe I can get by with this. And I said, sunshine, I hate you so bad,
Starting point is 02:30:23 whatever, blah, blah, blah. I wish, oh, oh, if I could just say the word slut on television. I figure, oh, of course, they'd bleeped it, but I think people figured it out anyway, but I thought I might get by with it. I think I probably did the same thing on the pay-per-view.
Starting point is 02:30:46 Because I never went to, I mean, we didn't, in those days, you didn't really go and say, like, what's the allotment of cuss words or whatever on the show? Is anybody else saying, fuck, or can I say it? I didn't tell Vince I was going to, say fornicator. When I said fornicator, I just kind of every once while threw something in
Starting point is 02:31:09 using the Jerry Lawler principle is better to ask for forgiveness than permission. And just, you know, I wouldn't have done it on USA. We would have probably got heat and Vince would have yelled at me, but I don't remember anybody saying a goddamn word about it. Whose idea was it for Sid to be the first guy in the WWF to use a camcorder as a weapon? quarter. It was a video camera, wasn't it? Well, yeah, it was a TV camera back in those days when they were giant and bulky.
Starting point is 02:31:43 You know, honestly, that may have been Bruce. That may have been a Bruce Pritchard, but the idea was that Sid was going to, at the appropriate time, snatched the video camera off the shoulder of one of the handheld camera guys and and whack
Starting point is 02:31:57 fucking dip shit in the head with it. And that's what he did. What was Dwayne like on this night? Can Jim recall anything at all? Well, this was the Rock's, this was Rocky My Via's debut. Yeah. On pay-per-view. And he was thrilled, he was nervous,
Starting point is 02:32:18 had goddamn outfit, didn't do him any favors. They didn't make him have the haircut. He actually had that haircut beforehand. It went with the outfit. Well, it, or the outfit may have gone with the haircut. One or the other. which came first, the chicken or the egg. But I had all the confidence in the world, as I've mentioned many times in Dwayne Johnson.
Starting point is 02:32:46 I thought he was a prodigy, and that's why I'd said the first time I saw him working out at the studio with Dr. Tom and Dory Funk, and I said, Vince, he's going to be your champion in three to five years from the way you present him, music, the booking, whatever. Just think that that's your goal, because it's, this guy's got it. When I saw the fucking outfit, I like, oh, my God, he may have had it, but this may make him lose it. And they had good intentions because Vince gave Rocky to Pat Patterson to say, here, we want to get him over. But Pat, unfortunately, with a genius like him, I hate to. criticize, but he didn't realize
Starting point is 02:33:37 that they had gotten in their bubble where they just thought, okay, WWF is Vince's vision, it is, there is silliness, it's family entertainment, it's ha-ha, it's, you know, oh, look at the gobbledygooker. Pat could do serious wrestling. He worked for fucking Roy Shire on top for God's sake. But Pat just had gotten, they had all gotten complacent. And they thought, we'll just put him out there as a
Starting point is 02:34:04 smiling baby face in this I don't know how to describe the outfit with the tassels and everything and he'll win a lot of matches and he'll get over and they just did it too fast. I thought a little more true to life approach and a little slower would have been better but they went whole hog with it. People started hating him die, Rocky die and then they switched him heel
Starting point is 02:34:33 and then we were okay. But the first night, he was thrilled, scared, nervous, happy to be there, all those, all those emotions. All right, thank you for your question. A note to people in the Culticornav Facebook group, we put up a post. Some people are upset about it, but we're not allowing nicknames. If you're on Facebook and you're a member of the group and you want a post, but only under a nickname, so no one will know who you are. Oh.
Starting point is 02:35:04 Unless you are somebody, we're not going to do that. So I'm sorry, no nicknames in the group. Yeah. It's ridiculous. You got to be somebody before you can be somebody else. And it turns out the majority of the people would try to start trouble and start fighting with other members. Usually it's the people hiding behind a nickname.
Starting point is 02:35:19 So no nicknames. Jim. Our next question sent via the cult of Cornet Facebook group by Josh Tustason. Well, that sounds like a nickname. He needs a nickname. Telling like Ricky Morton has always been a thing. And working with Bobby Eaton was like having a night off. Are there any great singles matches between the two?
Starting point is 02:35:46 Those styles might have been great for tag team competition, but how would they mesh in singles competition against one another? Maybe I'm just too young to recall. Well, no, good. Tremendously, and those phrases have not always been a thing, because when Ricky Morton was actively in the 80s selling like Ricky Morton, it wasn't a phrase yet because somebody else in a different part of the country may have said he was selling like Riggie Steamboat.
Starting point is 02:36:16 Somebody else in a different part of country, he was selling like whoever. But as it's, as modern times has come along and people watch back on YouTube, but Ricky Morton was the preeminent practitioner of the art. And you said with a lot of guys, that just used to be a compliment that the guys would legitimately give other guys, oh, working with him is like a night off, right? Because nothing's going to happen to you. You're not going to get hurt, not going to get potatoed.
Starting point is 02:36:48 It's easiest thing you'll ever do. And then, of course, a lot of the guys started turning it around. Hey, working with you is like a night off. Oh, really? Yeah, punches off, kicks off. house is off. But they became, Bobby and Ricky became examples
Starting point is 02:37:08 of a lot of the guys of the territory days that just had the ability to do these things. And yes, the answer to the question is they could have a tremendous singles match. And they'd had singles matches going back to the Tennessee territory and, what, late 70s, early 80s. it's just that the way that they both ended up getting over as main event attractions was in tag teams so the midnight meshed perfectly with Ricky and Robert because the
Starting point is 02:37:41 midnight were a heel team that meshed perfectly with each other and Ricky and Robert were a baby face team that meshed with each other and they all knew each other and had worked in a variety of combinations for so long they just they all knew what fucking do. But there was not, every once in a while we'd have a single match, maybe just to set up a tag match. That's why there weren't more singles matches between them, but out of the entire bunch that all of the members of both teams, Bobby versus Ricky, would probably be the best singles match.
Starting point is 02:38:19 How was Robert Gibson as a singles wrestler? Again, he was great when he had the opportunity. opportunity, but Robert started in the business at 18, and that's when I first met him as partners with his brother Ricky, who was the established star at the time. And he went from that team to different tag team partners in the Tennessee and Alabama territories. He wrestled singles sometimes, but he was in teams a lot of the time, just with various baby faces. And then from 83 on, he and Ricky, he could have a very good singles match, but he just was never pushed as a singles wrestler, the Gibson brothers. To be honest, I think in 1981,
Starting point is 02:39:13 may have been one of the two or three best in-ring baby face tag teams in the whole business. and Ricky was still, that was Ricky Gibson's last phenomenal year. Ricky Gibson workwise from 74, 75, 76, 77, I would have put up as a baby face against anybody in the business in any territory. He was amazing. And then all the bumps and the injuries and few substances and car wreck and various things, he was a shell of himself by the time he had to quit. You know, physically in a lot of ways, again, he had the car wreck that changes things,
Starting point is 02:39:54 but he was getting hurt a lot before that. Yeah, and the backdrops that he took, that's, that was the back problem. I've never seen anybody take a backdrop like Ricky Gibson did. If he could get somebody like David Schultz to boost him up, he would push off the guy's shoulder as the guy stood straight up, he would go up in the air and then within a half a second, flip and stand up completely upside down with his head pointed directly down and his feet straight up in the air and then slowly turn the rest of the way by the time he landed,
Starting point is 02:40:29 he landed flat as a board. He'd go 10 feet in the air and six or eight feet on the other side of the guy. And you do that every night four or five times. You're going to have a bad back. But you know, so many people for years pointed to dynamite head, like there's the casualty. There's what you want to prevent from happening. In a lot of ways, Ricky Gibson may be the precursor to a lot of the modern guys and the frequent injuries because of the style. Because he was, not that he was working the modern style then, but he was doing things a lot of other people didn't do with bumps.
Starting point is 02:41:02 He was the first guy ever saw throw a drop kick off the top rope, what they now refer to as a missile drop kick. He would do a deal where when he was chasing the heel manager around the ring or through the ring or whatever he would run through the ring jump up to the top turnbuckle and then just jump off, not even with a jump, but just step off the top turnbuckle
Starting point is 02:41:26 and land on the floor and continue running after the fucking guy. Whoa. Again, I guess what was Ricky? He was 23, 24 years old in 1974. They brought him into Memphis the first time and he had a main event program with Lawler for the Southern Junior heavyweight title and had a couple of sellouts of the Mid-South Coliseum.
Starting point is 02:41:49 He got over instantly because these guys were doing, Lawler had been in Atlanta. Ricky Gibson had also, he started in Pensacola and the Alabama territory, but he'd gone through Atlanta. They were using vertical suplexes, jumps off the top rope, Ricky Gibson's incredible drop kick and the big backdrops and all this stuff.
Starting point is 02:42:12 And still having Memphis matches around that, and it was just so new. And then that's when Lawler had put Fargo out. So they brought Fargo in to be in Gibson's corner, did another sell out, bounced the belt back and forth between them. And from that point on, the Gibson name in Tennessee and the Memphis territory was made. But looking at his injuries and the way his style affected his body, It's amazing that Randy Savage didn't get hurt more. Well, again, it's a lot of times it's how guys are built and what they're doing.
Starting point is 02:42:52 And with dynamite, I think he was not, he was just not only an incredible world-class athlete. And probably if he'd have chosen a different direction, he could have been some type of other world-class athlete. And also just such a mean, rotten bag. bastard, he wouldn't go down until he had to go down. And Savage was, had gotten in such shape that he had that coiled spring type of physique until the elbow off the top wore his knee out and his hip. He was doing pretty good. But Ricky Gibson was a great pro wrestler, but he wasn't a world-class athlete or a bodybuilder.
Starting point is 02:43:36 so the punishment that he took and plus he was pushed to the top way early in his career earlier than Savage was on a Gibson was main eventing in Memphis and in Georgia and in the Alabama territory while Savage was coasting a lot in ICW he wasn't going to fucking kill himself in Virgie Kentucky and dynamite as I said again was just a freak. So I think with Ricky, that was kind of, like you said, maybe a little bit more early cautionary tale that, you know, the body's just not made to do that stuff for long. You know, I just looked up his age.
Starting point is 02:44:23 He was born in 52, which blows me away, because I met him at the Night of Legends in 94 in Knoxville. 42 years old, he was on a cane. It wasn't even just a cane. I mean, the gray hair. I mean, he looked 10 years older, minimum, maybe 15 than he was. I can't believe he was only 42.
Starting point is 02:44:40 That's, well, you know, now that you mentioned, that's another thing, he turned gray prematurely. He was gray, partially gray, if he didn't do something about it, when he was his late 20s. But he was, he was the boy wonder for the Memphis territory in 1974, and by 1986, he was overweight and doing jobs for Crockett because Dusty and everybody respected what he had been able to do in the past. Jim, this next question was sent in via the call to cornette Facebook group by Michael Brata. Just watch the angle in Smoky Mountain Wrestling where the dirty white boy puts Tracy Smothers
Starting point is 02:45:21 his flag on fire. Were you expecting the flames to get that high? And did you think the smoke detectors might go off in the school? I didn't think about the smoke detectors because I bet you there weren't any smoke detectors and we were in we were in Jellico Tennessee at the Jellico High School and again I don't
Starting point is 02:45:44 know if that old Jim had any smoke detectors. We'd drawn a pretty decent crowd five or six hundred people on Monday night for a TV taping but the plan was to burn this was when
Starting point is 02:45:59 Dirty White Boy and Ron Wright had renounced the citizens of Tennessee and they'd moved to New York and they were wearing the Yankees shirts and we've, you know, we've become a Yankee because we can't stand to be affiliated with people at support the Southern boy Tracy Smothers. So naturally the thing to do leading up to the chain match at the Blue Grass Brawl is to burn Tracy's Confederate flag.
Starting point is 02:46:26 So the thing I'd said before it, and I said, now how are we going to, I think I was talking to Hildabrand, Brown Hildebrand, Mark Curtis. I said, how are we going to burn this flag without setting, his gym on fire. And we came up with the out. We get the big metal drum, the big oil drum or metal can, whatever, garbage metal, some type of metal can and burn it in that in the ring. So when they squirted the lighter fluid, et cetera, you know,
Starting point is 02:46:55 we're not setting fire to the mat. We don't want to burn the gym down. And they got up there. We had a fire extinguisher standing by. Dwayne Hamby, our ring, had stuck one underneath the ring just in case. But it didn't get out of control or anything. And it wasn't like one of these fire incidents with ECW where they actually
Starting point is 02:47:19 threw the fire out into the crowd or one of the AEW things where it was a flamethrower and they were shooting and catching people on fire, we burned the flag. But we didn't tell the gym, we couldn't, we didn't smarten people up to. of shit. So it wasn't like we were the same thing as when I said slut on pay-per-view. We weren't going to go up to the fucking whoever the redneck operator of the Jellico High School gym was and say, by the way, we're going to shoot an angle here for the bluegrass brawl and we're going to set a fire in the ring.
Starting point is 02:47:55 They didn't know what the fuck we were going to do. And nothing happened so they weren't upset. You know, real quick, it made me think of this question. What do you think is the riskiest thing you put on Smokey Mountain TV? I can think of a few options. Whether it was Mick Foley saying that's not the first time the little pussy is let a man to go astray. Darrell Van Horn talking about felching the family dog.
Starting point is 02:48:24 You Kiro, Canamora, getting stabbed at death. I mean, what do you think is the riskiest thing you had on? In my defense, I had no idea what Father James Mitchell, Darryl Van Horn, was talking about when he did the promo about the citizens of eastern Kentucky, sitting at home, felching the family dog. That was not normal conversation 30 years ago. I'd never heard that verbiage. And also when he conjured Prince Karras up on TV one time
Starting point is 02:48:57 by what was supposed to be an Egyptian incantation, but turned out to be, I lezac to Fizak the Wiesat to Kizantah But Um Now willingly See now sometimes things
Starting point is 02:49:14 Can go wrong No things You knew You know this is pushing it a little bit I didn't I didn't know Kahn of Murrah When Kevin Sullivan said
Starting point is 02:49:23 Well we'll get some juice From his arm For the golden spike I didn't know he was gonna fucking slice his goddamn entire arm To the elbow And bleed like a
Starting point is 02:49:32 of deer on the side of the road being assaulted by a guy from Mullenberg County. But you know, it's not talked about enough, but before that happened months before, a few months, the Brian Lee thing was pretty gory too. Well, now that, that was on purpose. And again, we had been milking for weeks. Somebody is sending people after Brian Lee. It was the Mongolian muller showed up and the night stalker who later became Brian Clark, Adam Baum, and all these other people are trying to get Brian Lee and there's a higher power behind it.
Starting point is 02:50:06 The master. Who's the master? And finally, the night it was going to be revealed. We even had a camera look out back. There's a vehicle that's pulled up. There's somebody in it. We don't know who. It's not like this mysterious guy was bopping around in the locker room with a Grundy Virginia fucking elementary school gym, right?
Starting point is 02:50:26 We had to keep some separation. And then when Kevin comes in in the hood and the fucking thing and throws that off and starts with the golden spike stabbing Brian Lee. He gets the Jews. Everything's chaos. That was a lot of blood for television. And I talked to Rick Rubin. And Brian, you'll remember this because it's a northeastern thing.
Starting point is 02:50:53 Because honestly, in the old days down south, most of the time, they just let the blood go. but the northeast was a little bit pricklier, but bigger TV markets. They used to put on the old WWWF TV shows when they would have rare instances of juice for a heels, claw or whatever, they'd put the X over it, right? And it would be like censored.
Starting point is 02:51:21 Yeah, when Jimmy Snooker got the shit kicked out of them, that's what they did. And it's actually really effective because it makes it seem worse than it is. and it also makes you really want to see what's happening. Yes. And so Rubin suggested, put the X up.
Starting point is 02:51:38 And I said, and the editor called it Uncle Rick's Rowdy Red X. And we put the X up. And all you see is Sullivan with a spike in his hand, stab it, but you can't see the contact, but you see blood flying all over Brian Lee. My God,
Starting point is 02:51:53 it looked like he was bashing his brains out. So it did. It was like, shower scene and psycho. Yeah, it was bad. The knife never touched. But you thought you saw the whole fucking thing. So that's why we did that.
Starting point is 02:52:10 So that was the thing we pushed. And some of New Jack's comments and I'm trying to say, but New Jack, New Jack congratulating O.J. in front of Bob Cottle is still one of the most surreal moments. Bob Cottle's holding the microphone there. And he's like, OJ, good job. Two less of them to worry a man.
Starting point is 02:52:28 And Bob Carl's just shaking his out. I go, oh, no. But again, I didn't tell him to say that. So it wasn't like that I was doing this thinking, oh, my God, are we going to go too far? It's just as sometimes these things, the concept materialized into, wow, that was memorable. All right, well, the correct answer was Tim Horner, shameless.
Starting point is 02:52:55 Now, that was going too far on television. We all should have been put in jail by the FCC for that one. Jim, before we get out of here, a few trivia questions. I've just recently gotten my hands on the WWF Express Wrestling Trivia game, 800 questions for ages 8 and up by Cardinal. Can you give me the age 8 questions? Brett Hart is on this box, so it must have come out in 1997 would be my guess. Jim at WrestleMania 8.
Starting point is 02:53:28 The guest ring announcer for the eight-man tag was Bob Euker, Ray Combs, or Steve Allen? Bob Euker. Incorrect. Ray Combs. Who the fuck is Ray Combs? He was the host of Family Feud after Richard Dawson. He was good.
Starting point is 02:53:47 Oh, cry. Well, no wonder. But you can't follow Dickie Dawson, baby. He didn't molest all the women on the show. He was a good host. That's what was wrong with it. That was part of a television afternoon is watching Richard Dawson Paul over those middle-aged women. Jim, one team at the 1993 Survivor Series.
Starting point is 02:54:07 One team at the 1993 Survivor Series. Okay, you have to guess the remaining members. I was like, how the fuck is this laid out? Razoramon. One, two, three kid. Randy Macho Man Savage. And who's the fourth member? Here are your options.
Starting point is 02:54:24 Scott Steiner. Marty Janetti or Adam Bomb Christ, I was on this thing. It had to be Adam Bomb. Marty Janetti is the correct answer. Jim, where did the 1994 Survivor Series take place? Richfield, Ohio, San Antonio, Texas, or Chicago, Illinois. Chicago, Chicago, where are seeing punk's from? Da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Starting point is 02:54:57 All right, it's San Antonio. where Joe Blanchard is from. They just did the San Antonio Rumble in fucking 97. You may, they were in San Antonio for that too? Was I in San Antonio? Son of a bitch, I was on that too. Now I remember, God damn it. They were still doing the Survivor series on Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 02:55:19 No, it was the night before Thanksgiving. That's what it was. This is going well. Because, well, now I remember as clear as day. the bodies and I were on the 94 Survivor Series and we had to fly back the next day on Thanksgiving Day to go to our Thanksgiving Thundertown starting in eastern Kentucky. That's what it was, or was that 93?
Starting point is 02:55:48 93 was Boston. It may have been 93 we had to fly back and then fucking go to Hazard. I don't know. What was the question? The question was, where did the 94 Survivor Series take place? Ah, well, I didn't answer it correctly, did I? I don't think you're going to get question four. Let me go to question five on this card.
Starting point is 02:56:10 Oh, now, give me, now, don't, don't, don't just give me question four. There's no chance you'd get this. There's no chance, because I don't think you would have seen it. At the 1988 SummerSlam, who was Hercules's opponent? Well, I'll tell you what. That was... Uh, Thor. Thor fought Hercules.
Starting point is 02:56:37 Not at the SummerSlam in 88. That was Jake Roberts. Jake Roberts and Jim, what wrestler once held the world and tag team title at the same time? As of 97. Uh, didn't they do something with Michaels? And somebody where they... I don't know.
Starting point is 02:57:00 Bob Backle. Backland. Backland. What? Bob Backland? At the same time. Was that when Bob was the WWF champion,
Starting point is 02:57:13 but they did something with him and Pedro at Chase Stadium? Him and Pedro went in the belts. Over the Samoans. And they had to relinquish them because Backland was still the singles champion. Well, one problem. This is.
Starting point is 02:57:25 Which begs the question, why did they make the match? But now that I'm looking at some of these, some of these may not be accurate. and these are put out by Titan Sports. God damn it! Who accompanied the Undertaker at the 1991 Survivor Series? Brother Love, Slick, or Ted DiBiasey? It says here Brother Love, but that was the 1990 Survivor Series, not 91.
Starting point is 02:57:45 So they got the year wrong of their own card. So, you're just giving me fake fucking questions. Hold on. I'm trying to look through ones I definitely know for here. Okay, here we go. Making me look like I don't know what I'm doing over here. At the 1994... I don't know what I'm doing with the W.
Starting point is 02:58:00 WF shit that I've tried to put out of my mind. At the 1994 SummerSlam, which is not the way anyone refers to it, the 94 SummerSlam, who accompanied Razor Ramon to the ring? Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, or Boomer Asiason?
Starting point is 02:58:21 Walter Payton. That is correct. Walter Payton. See, I remembered that I'd heard that name before. All right, here's a familiar question. at the 1993 Survivor Series, who was the guest ring announcer? Bob Euker, Ray Combs, or Chuck Norris. Well, wait a minute ago, you just asked me that question a minute ago.
Starting point is 02:58:47 Hold on, that one was WrestleMania 8, the guest ring announcer for the eight-man tag. That was Ray Combs. Oh, Christ. 94, or 93 Survivor series, guest ring announcer. Was, what are my choices? Bob Euker, Ray Combs, Chuck Norris. Chuck Norris, because that's when he delivered that fucking sidekick to Jeff Jarrett and couldn't get his leg more than two feet off the ground.
Starting point is 02:59:19 Unfortunately, the answer is Ray Combs. What? Well, where would Chuck Norris say if he was there? Why, there's so many Ray Combs questions in the first few comments? I don't know what is Ray Combs' brother-in-law doing this set of that. But no, Chuck. Norris was there and Walker, Texas Ranger, we were in Texas and he fucking did the sidekick to Jeff Jarrett and kicked him in the goddamn upper thigh and trying to be all badass and everything.
Starting point is 02:59:46 Chuck Norris sucks. Jim, the 1987 Survivor Series, one team was Ron Bass, Danny Davis, honky top man, Harley Race, and who? You have to guess, not the wrestler who, you have to guess who. No, that's my guess, who? Hercules. Hercules. Who? Jim, at the 1993 SummerSlam, what excuse that Jerry Lawler used to get out of wrestling?
Starting point is 03:00:19 He had a fever? He was in a car accident, or his plane was late. He had a fever. A fever? In the morning and a fever all through the night. You get me fever. He had a doctor's note, too, didn't he? He was in a car accident, according to this.
Starting point is 03:00:38 What? I thought he had a fever. At the 1993 Survivor Series, where you were, let's just establish what places you actually were, who was the intercontinental champion? Jeff Jarrett, Sean Michaels, or Razor Ramon? That was, at the time of that, would have been, Razor Ramon. That's what I would have thought, too. It says Sean Michaels.
Starting point is 03:01:13 Oh, of Christ. But 93 Survivor Series, when Sean Michaels came back to replace Lawler against Brett Hart and his family, when did they have the tournament where Razoramon beat Rick Martel to become the Intercontinental Champion? Wasn't it before then?
Starting point is 03:01:28 All right, well, we'll see. Jim, at the 1994 Survivor Series, who was not a member of Clowns' us. Pink? Dink. Or Bink? Bink? That is correct, though. You got one. Bink. Bink the clowns was not one of the dwarf clowns. Jim, at the 1993 Survivor Series, the first man eliminated from the hearts was Keith Hart, Owen Hart, or Brett Hart. Now I say it again? 93 Survivor Series Which Hart family member was eliminated first?
Starting point is 03:02:11 Keith Owen or Brett Certainly they wanted to get Keith out of there Owen Hart Oh good God It says here I don't remember that either All right A couple more here
Starting point is 03:02:27 This is fun, you're doing great Oh, I'm doing wonderful Here we go again At the 93 Survivor Series One team was Owen Brett Bruce and Jason Hart, Eric Hart, or Keith Hart?
Starting point is 03:02:45 Eric Hart, no, you just told me who the fuck it was, yes. At the 1994 Survivor Series, the special referee for a Yoko Undertaker match was Mr. Perfect, Chuck Norris, or Jake Roberts? Chuck Norris. That's the Chuck Norris story. Jim, here's a big one. What city was the first WBF championship? held. Oh, the bodybuilding. Why would they put that in this? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 03:03:17 Atlantic City. You got it. Wow. Atlantic City. Yes. Because that's the only place they could take a clown show that was close enough to the goddamn office
Starting point is 03:03:26 that, you know, it wasn't a pain in the ass. Well, we will stop there on a victory. We'll return to WWF 1997 WWF trivia at a late of time. Late a time. My accent is coming out. My long-hour accent is coming out as I'm on this mucinex now.
Starting point is 03:03:42 Later. We're going to talk about it later. With that, the drive-thru is closed. Ah, nothing is working! We'll be back on the experience in a few days. And of course, next week back in the drive-thru, hopefully I'll not sound mushy-mouth. Patreon.com slash cornet for the archive. $5 a month.
Starting point is 03:04:10 Now I'm losing my voice, too. and of course the official YouTube channel, full episodes. You sound like one of the Cosby kids, old mush mouth. And of course the omnibus collections, the George Livonitis artwork, our guest artwork from Freeman checking out today. Cornett's collectibles, what's going on, Jim? You know. Oh, damn it.
Starting point is 03:04:29 Jim cornet.com. At Jimcornaut.com. The drive-thru is brought to you by the law officer, Stephen Pino, 87750, Steve, get even with Stephen at new lawoffice.com. But until the experience in a few days and next week back here on the drive-thru, I will remain yelling to get through the end of this for Jim Cornett. I'm the great Brian last. Tally-ho!

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