Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 449

Episode Date: June 28, 2026

This week on the Drive Thru, Jim talks about the Top Wrestlers in their 40s in 1984, complaints against Tommy Dreamer, Bully Ray's comments about Jon Moxley, Oba Femi on Raw, Batman Adam West & Jerry Lawler, FTR's announcement, George Scott, AEW's new pillars, and much more! Plus Jim previews the weekend's big WWE & AEW events! Thanks to our episode sponsors: RIDGE:  Upgrade your wallet today! Get 10% Off @Ridge with code JCE at https://www.Ridge.com/JCE #Ridgepod HELIX:  Go to helixsleep.com/jce for 20% off sitewide and bigger discounts on Luxe and Elite Mattresses DRAFTKINGS CASINO:  Download the DraftKings Casino app and sign up with code JCE to claim your Flex Spins and experience Cashingo—the feature you can’t play anywhere else! Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: [e-mail]  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Merch! https://arcadianvanguard.com/ Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oh, okay. Did I hear symbols? No! Roll back over here. Hello again, friends, and you are... Roll back over the keyboard. You were in such a good mood last week. Let's keep that spirit up for another fun episode of Jim Cornedge Drive-Thru right here.

And another day, it's raining here. And we're going to be raining in the wrestling talk with this man. I'm your host, the great Brian last, but this man, the puppy prince of Louisville, or whatever we're calling him today. The leader of the cult of Cornet, Mr. Jim Cornett. Well, first of all, partner, you're going to rein me and you lasso me. They're on the wild frontier. I'm not the puppy prince.

The puppies are the princes, the two princes of Castle Cornett. I am still the king, until they figure out a way to somehow stab me in the back or poison me to ascend to the throne. But until then, I'm the boss around here. And the puppies are doing lovely. Thank you for asking. Nature Boy, Buddy, Cornett, and Alfred Puddinsworth Cornett. I revealed over the past couple of weeks that we've had the blessed event here

at the castle. And Brian, they have already, I said they were wrestlers on the last show. I talked to, they got two little Darby Allen's here. They're little three-pound risk takers. And while Nature Boy Buddy, obviously. he's more of a high spot guy, but I found that his finish now, his favorite move seems to be the pounce. Because he'll wait until Alfie's off balance and he'll just spring and just body tackle him into a rolling bump. So it looks more like the nature boy, but Alfie is the grappler.

And he loves the waistlock followed by a variety of takedowns. But I believe yesterday I saw a Cornish height out of him. so he may have been studying in Wigan. I'm not sure. Right? What are you my scoffing at? He may have been scoffing at my puppies. He may have been studying at a year.

Wiggin. Get out of here. Well, they've been chewing, so they might as well be Wiggin. I'll tell you what, though. They approved an old adage that I've had and my mother had. Mama Cornette and I've had dogs are smarter than people. Do you know how they have proven this already? because what we did was in those moments where we don't want to turn our back on them

and let them get into anything they shouldn't be while they're still getting acclimated. They're just mere babies. We got them a kid's playpen where we can put them in as waterproof bottom. It's a net they can see through and blah, blah, blah. But, Brian, I'll have you know that the one thing they like to chew, and if you keep an eye on them, they'll only chew their toys. but the one thing that they have destroyed since they have been here is they had a jail break from the playpen. They were able to chew and rip asunder the seam between the netting on the side and the waterproof liner at the bottom and open up a hole big enough to escape.

It was like a goddamn prison break. and so what we did was we got them an actual puppy playpen that Stacy found on the internet and it's got it's different shaped but it's built differently and it's about the same size it's a little apartment for them and they can't get out of that thing and that proves that dogs are smarter than kids because if you put two 10 week old kids in these playpins

they can't get out. They can't figure it out. All they need to do is gnaw through the scene. But the dogs within days figured it out. That's solid testing proof right there. Well, you know, Gremlins kind of, in the movie Gremlins, they kind of learn skills pretty quickly. Well, yeah, but that's, I'm just, you know,

it seems like that there would be some kind of lawsuit against the child playpen manufacturers if you get this thing and it only keeps them in about five days so they obviously they're not having this problem do you have any fears that they're not getting along or is everything seem all right with the two of them as terms of oh jesus christ for the first couple of days because when they start playing then they will start running at high speeds and circles around the room and grab it at each other and growling and snarling and and yiping and yelping and rolling over each other and snapping their jaws into each other.

And then they'll stand up, walk over to the water bowl. Like, good morning, Sam, morning, Bob. Have a drink next to each other. And then start locking up again like werewolves. So they seem to love it. They're brothers. They brothers may fight, but they, they get along.

They will defend themselves and our family. So if anybody tries to mess around at the castle, their ankles are going to be ripped to shreds by these creed. I will release the hounds. All right. This has been the royal puppy pageant. And now, boy, I used to get so mad at that Westminster dog show

because Vince, he would have a goddamn conibption fit. Every year when USA used to, I started to say maltreat, not mistreat, of fucking preempt the Raw for the Westminster Dog Show, which nobody watched but was a big advertising windfall for them. And we used to have to do all kinds of special bullshit. I think it was that goddamn, that was the time of year that Rousseau was the only one and sat around to hear Vince complained,

so he let him be the writer. I tried to watch that thing. You think, oh, it must be entertaining at least. No, it's the worst, driest, most boring shit while people are inspecting the assholes of dogs. You know, I love dogs, but I can't, there's no reason that they're not even allowed to be cute. They have to act like they're dipshit owners.

They look miserable. They look miserable. Here, walk around this way again, Hector. I guarantee you, if somebody hit the, fucking dog circle there with about five Rockwilers and pit bulls that just attacked all the humans, those fucking dogs would cheer and throw their fucking hats in the air. Where are all the people that like protest like women wearing fur or the ethical treatment about, like, why don't they all get together and invade the Westminster dog show and just

all they have to do is I let the dogs out, just like free the dogs. I let the dogs storm 34th Street. That's what I think really weird. Who let the dogs out? It was Tina. Deena. So free the dogs from the Westminster, the fascist overlords. It would be quite the sight, too, because no two dogs there look alike is just a variety of the weirdest-looking dogs and some of the most standard old-school-looking dogs.

Again, tearing down 34th Street, trying to get to the west side, probably to go to a club. Well, Jim, that has been a puppy talk. There you go. Puppy talk. Where do we go from here? Well, it's your show. You're in charge of all the segways and the entrees and the Cebu plays. But I can mention just as a transition to give you some time to fucking think of something.

The time is running out. It's almost the end of June at Jim Cornett.com. the proceeds of sales of my book, Heroes and Friends, will go to the WHA's Crusade for Children through June. 30 days of September, April June. There it is. 30th, the 30th day of the June. And then I start keeping the money again.

So your last 10th, we will, the week after or the first week or whatever, as soon as July comes around, we will have a total tabulation. for you that we will reveal. But anyway, and you can always buy other things there, too, Jim Cornett.com. The t-shirts are quite popular this time of year because you don't want to wear a fucking hoodie,

it's goddamn 90 outside. Jimcornet.com. Once again, at Jimcornet.com. Jim want to make a correction and a follow-up from last time when discussing the pizza place. We were discussing Sting and the name Sting, and I brought up how the late Scott Cornett. hated Sting and brought up how

everything about him was unoriginal including his catchphrase at Showtime. I said it was from Batman. I was thinking of the wrong Michael Keaton movie. It was Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice. I was going for guy. Who was I going for? The mask.

Jim Carrey instead of the other fellow funny fellow that you just spoke of who was Michael Keaton in the wrong and you said Batman. I see I knew What the fuck would Batman have to do with anything? It's Michael Keaton.

That's what got me. That's what got me. I thought it was the Joker, but he didn't say that. It came out the year before Batman with Michael Keaton. It's not like I quoted gung ho or something. It's, or Mr. Mom. Gung ho, he starred with Jack Lord in Hawaii 50. You remember him?

He was one of the lieutenants, gung ho. It's not the same thing. But this has been a happy talk. Ladies and gentlemen, just some happy talk here. Jim, as we move on, there's a lot going on in the world of wrestling, and we're going to get to a lot of different things. Let's do a follow-up first. Let's start with this.

Have you been following the Tommy Dreamer stuff? Ever since we talked about on your show, T&A's releases, they put out a press release saying that Tommy was gone, mutual decision. Tessa had been granted her release. She said she chose Mexico over them. and others because they didn't want to name the other people that had been released from the other one guy. Tammy Callahan who was like and others.

And we talked about that and, you know, I certainly let my thoughts be known that I don't think it was a loss of T&A or anyone for Tommy Dreamer not to be in a creative position. But since that time... Well, and by the way, I will say that I chammed in and I, I chammed in and I, I said, you know, that whole thing in OVW 20 years ago where he created a mystery that didn't leave anybody the solution, I said he might be able to train wrestlers, but don't let him anywhere near the book. And he likes all of the modern stuff way too much for my taste, but hadn't seen him in years. So apparently now this is not really a follow-up.

This is a brand new, all-encompassing thing involving the guy. Yeah, and I'm trying to right now pull together all of these tweets to see where it came from. So it started, it appears on social media with a referee named Perch on June 20th. Wait a minute. A referee named, is that his first name or? last name Perch. Is he a parakeet? It's just, it says Perch and his Twitter handle is at Perch XLV, so no hint to what his name would be other than Perch.

Okay, and he's a referee. All right. Tommy Dreamer pulled me aside backstage at a TNA show, telling me he would do everything he could to make sure I don't earn a job in the wrestling business. All I did was try to learn and grow from experiences, though his words were very discouraging for a young student to hear. So let's stop there, and there's some photos he attached of him refereeing in TNA. What does it, what does Perch look like? He's a slight, a very slight, thin young man, like a young Tommy Young, a smaller and

younger Tommy Young, maybe? Smaller and younger Tommy Young, I think, is what I'll go with. other people have come out since then from the independent wrestling community to verify that perch is not like some scummy guy they say that he's an honorable guy an honest guy they love him they've never had a problem with him

not one person has said like this fucking guy yeah I mean all these things can be true he doesn't have to be the scum of the earth and a no good bastard that motherfucker stole my milk money type of fucking that we love him He really, he's a nice guy to also be just a complete shits.

Let's not overlook that. Normally, if you engender that type of response from any official, any training person or anybody, if he's in T&A, I don't, this doesn't sound like, was this training or was this, or do they just consider T&A's television product training? I need more information on that. But let's assume that he was refereeing for T&A and Tommy Dreamer was the creative honcho that he was or an agent or whatever.

If you engender that kind of response, generally there will be more specificity delivered with it. Like, you will be told exactly why, you stupid motherfucker, that you will never darken this doorstep again. Right? If it's just something that, you know, that guys of shits or whatever, then you just stop booking them. But so I would need more information on if there was any other message delivered along with that.

because this guy says he's trying to learn. Well, was it, again, was it a training session? Because then the only time I ever hear shit like that is when somebody attempts to kill somebody. And whoever's they, well, I'll fucking never get you booked, you son of a bitch. See, that's the thing. Even if it was a training session, the idea you would go up to someone and say, that was the shits, or you're not good, or I can't see how this will happen. That's one thing.

Yes. To pull them aside backstage and say, I'm going to make sure you never work anywhere in this room. That's crazy. And see, that's why I remember always every time that I always say in wrestling conversations, I need more information. Generally it comes out that there is more information. There are more words were used.

And so I can believe it of Ole Anderson. I can believe it of me. I believe there's a couple of times I believe I may have said something to that description. or when I told the Shane twins. How long y'all been wrestling? Ten years. You need to find a new line of fucking work. Get the fuck out of here.

Shit like that, but they knew exactly why. And so with Dreamer doesn't, I haven't heard of him being the kind of person that goes off on how fucking dog you until your dying day and make sure your children are penniless in a gutter. Well, someone came out. to defend Tommy Dreamer after that first tweet.

Several people did, but the most prominent one, Missy Hyatt did, Brett Waterdale of GCW did. Well, now, see, you know, if I was friends with him, I'd tell him, stay home on this one. I can't imagine you being a character witness for wrestling fucking people.

But here's a tweet from Mickey James Aldus, hashtag at Mickey James, or not hashtag at Mickey James. What are you doing to just a, Everybody knows who she is where they can find. Perch, listen, I don't know you. But I do know Tommy Dreamer well enough to know that if he truly said this, there is far more to this story that you are conveniently leaving out.

If you are going into, if you are going into come on here. Maybe she spoke this. I don't know how this got translated. if you are going into, come on here, and attempt to bury someone, especially someone who is loved, respected, and responsible for helping so many folks, including myself in this industry, then at least be completely honest.

I understand you want to speak your truth and possibly gain a bit of recognition by jumping on the bandwagon. however how many other people's on this fucking cart however if this is your path to 15 seconds of ex-buzz at least have the common decency to speak the whole truth this ain't it

it's also pretty dumb because Tommy will always have a job in the business I don't know if I could say the same for you have a blessed day oh that's you know what that's the modern version of bless your heart. Well, you heard bless your heart when you were a kid.

You knew the adults were fucking just ripping somebody. Nevertheless, well, I mean, her point in probably a much kinder delivery fashion than mine was, there's something else going on here. And I would love to hear it just so we can laugh about that too. But I've, again, if the worst thing that they're coming up with is Tommy Dreamer told us one fucking guy, you know what, you know, don't ever try this again.

I'm sorry, that doesn't put him in a Manson family to me. It just builds into everything else. Again, this was the guy that as stupidly as anyone could defended Rick Flair on that dark side of the ring about the plane ride from hell. Remember that. Well, and that is it, nobody has accused Tommy Dreamer of being an eloquent person who of having a plan of having a plan. Well, or it gets there somewhere, but think how many times that it's fucking burglar alarm has gone off. So there might be something of that right there.

I respect Mickey James standing up for her friend. I don't know if she needed to hit out at this person because if she doesn't know the whole truth, and she shouldn't assume that there's that whole truth out there. You know what it's... Well, it sounds to me like she's saying she kind of knows what there's... Oh, God damn it. Here's my phone. It's while I'm fucking...

I don't know who that is. Hold on. I'll jump back in again. Well, it kind of sounds to me like she knows that there's something more to be said, but it's not whatever her place to say it or whatever the case. Well, there was something more to be said. After that, a tweet went out from someone named Kennedy, K-E-N-N-E-D-I

on Twitter at that Ken dog I used to wrestle it says in the profile Hold up Are we sharing our Tommy Dreamer stories Because one time I told him I really wanted to take a cane shot in a match And he told me he doesn't do that with women

So instead we did a spanking spot Because women Am I right And she posted a photo Tommy Dreamer spanking her wait but that's the way she actually wrote that that's the way she wrote it that's the way she wrote it that's the way she wrote it that sounds worse than mickey james's talk to text or whatever the fuck well so this is apparently a woman wrestler named kennedy now we've established by the the content of that text who was in a match

that apparently dreamer was the fucking baby face of in the corner or of something of that nature or some type of commissioner. And she wanted to get caned because, of course, that's cool, Brian. You know, when they hit you with the fucking Kendo stick. But Dreamer said, no, just I'll spank you. That's the same thing that I would have said if one of the girls had come to me 20 years ago in OVW

and said, oh, and then they can cane me. No. just have him turn you over his knee and spank you. We're not hitting girls with kendo sticks. In this venue, whether it may be a Catholic high school or a goddamn wreck center or whatever the fuck, they don't want the girls to be beating each other with weapons, so we'll do a spanking spot. And then they all go, yay, he spanked the bad girl.

What the, are these people out of their fucking minds? This isn't 20 years ago. This is modern wrestling and Tommy Dreamer's involved with all this, but that led to another tweet. And this one's from apparently a current wrestler, I believe. Danny Jordan, D-A-N-N-N, J-O-R-D-Y-N, Danny Jordan. I've been waiting for this. One time Tommy Dreamer insisted. One time in band camp.

One time Tommy Dreamer insisted on doing a crotch grab spot to me. In a tag match he was a fill-in for. This had no place in our storyline, but he didn't care to ask. I did not want to do this, said how uncomfortable I was, but I'm just a woman, right? And then a second tweet here, I was new in my career, should have trusted my intuition, set a firm no, and not succumbed to pure pressure for this spot. This is the only thing that's happened in my career that felt degrading,

because I vowed to never let a motherfucker, or MF, she said, try me on some uncomfortable shit ever again. Boy, these people sound pissed off for what then. Sengela, have you been at a wrestling business all that time, but that's the only bad thing it ever happened to you. Bless you, you're now unique in the history of the world. I don't know. What was the crotch grabbing?

Who was supposed to grab whose crotch? And I don't... No one was supposed to grab anyone's crotch, and Tommy Dreamer insisted on doing that with one of the girls in the match. That's what she said. Okay, but that's what I'm saying is. I'm not even trying to defend Dreamer now because I can't imagine. I'm trying to, in my mind, put together the great crotch grab spot that would be indispensable.

It couldn't easily be not done. And it doesn't come to mind, but I don't know who was grabbing whose crotch and whether or not that he was wanting to grab hers or he was wanting her to grab his or he was grabbing somebody else's with. her. I don't know. But on that one, I don't think that a crotch grab spot has ever been indispensable, but if somebody calls it and you don't say, I don't want to do that, or no, you ain't grabbing my crotch, or whatever, then there have also been many crotch spots called in a wrestling business. I don't know where this this attitude came from

in the modern training facilities on both sides of the fence whether it's the trainers or the trainees that either side can't there was nothing about grabbing of the crotches regardless you didn't grab except if you could cover it up and fucking rib the guy on a clinch anyway or stick your finger up his ass or whatever but the fans couldn't see it but those spots weren't done to begin with so we didn't really have to cover that as we evolved in our wrestling knowledge but now it seems like that it would kind of be a protocol that if a guy is somehow wanting to do something with a girl's

crotch or a girl is somehow want to do something with a guy's crotch, regardless of who the Booker, matchmaker, trainer is, and who the other one is, they would, the doer would be the one to ask you, do you have a problem with this first? And then yes or no,

okay, we'll not do it, or we will or whatever. How does this fester into, finally, this can be revealed? Well, again, there's more. Say, no, don't grab my, crotch or could I please grab your crotch? Well, she said she was early in her career and she wishes she had felt comfortable

enough around obviously veterans to say, no, you can't grab my crotch and she didn't. But there's more. Okay. This has caused a lot of people to upload a lot of things about Tommy Dreamer, a variety of things. Here's him talking to, I guess, giving advice to wrestling students as a girl here. The quote, if you have to lose five pounds, lose ten. that's what he said

what okay what too bad no one gave Tommy that advice by the way well and now but hold on hold on in all fairness Jim Ross Paul Heyman even myself in my chubby days

have all uttered that to other people but in the guise of if they're playing professional athletes then but what is inflammatory about if they tell you to lose five pounds lose ten what i don't understand i would have to watch the video but i think the idea that in front of a room full of guys you're telling us one girl to lose 10 pounds i think to a lot of women that's particularly offensive

well fuck those women because if if she's in the if she's in the locker room she's on the fucking team. If you're on the goddamn team, somebody at some point is going to lose 10 pounds. Fugging, cut your hair. Let's find a different outfit. Whatever the fuck. It's goddamn, it's Hollywood. Do you think that Betty Davis told Edith what she was going to wear?

All right. That's a Steve Beverly reference, if I ever heard one. There you go. See? Charlie Bravo, who's a male wrestler for A.E. I think he's part of the Shane Taylor group, and a ring of honor champion of some description. But he tweeted out also his name on Twitter at Bad News and Tattoos, or Bad News and Tattoos is the name. And whose crotch did they want him to grab? He told me I was very talented, but he couldn't hire me because, quote, he didn't know if he could market cocky black guy to the world.

need was to say I'm on top of my game and never changed one bit run it up fuck what anyone else said okay so now we're getting away from the crotch and the weight and we're getting to him telling an African-American wrestler that he can't that what you established earlier that Tommy Dreamer may not win any intelligence fucking examination or, you know, he may be at the Trump level on the cognitive test or whatever. He's kind of like Al Snow that you, Al says a lot of things he thinks are funny, and you go,

he's Al Snow off the gas. Because is, because it, would that be a rib? Because, I mean, it's on the surface of it, it's a ridiculous statement, but could he be, say, like, the rock? Oh how am I like is he was he trying to well the only thing is he can't market it Who the fuck wants Tommy Dreamer to do any marketing Yeah see that's the bigger problem Tommy Dreamer being a moron

It's certainly part of the problem Tommy Dreamer not being someone who should be in a management position Is part of the problem this is a wrestling problem There aren't other people getting slotted in there It's someone like Tommy Dreamer Well if you're around long enough and we'll put up with enough bullshit from the wrestling business. And even if you've saved your money,

if you just love to be in the wrestling business, then you end up in these positions. Am I right? Yeah. And that's the problem. You know, it's not, Mickey James said Tommy Dream will always have a job in wrestling. That's a problem.

That's not like a good thing. He needs to go find another job somewhere else and see how that works out because. Well, no, but wait a minute. That's the point. How old is Tommy Dreamer? That's what, I mean, he's, I consider him one of the younger generation. But, I mean, does anybody ever just say, you know,

fuck it, fuck this fucking business and these headache motherfuckers and I'll retire? Saying he'll always have a job in wrestling is like a curse, like the curse of the werewolf. Even a man who is pure at heart and says his prayers by night will keep staying in this goddamn business until his asshole is puckered up tight. He's 55 years old. Again, you know, I see various people. Missy Hyatt says that he's an asset to any company.

No, you like him. You like him. He doesn't have good ideas. He can't, even as a wrestler, he never figured out how to do a promo. He's such a big wrestling fan. Wanted to get into the business. Couldn't do promos. Couldn't work.

And eventually he had to work with his t-shirt because he couldn't do sit-ups. Like, give me a break. They like this guy personally, but this guy's been a net negative to professional wrestling, at least since his retirement. If you're a big ECW fan, you may see things a different way, but he was Laurenitis as stooge, wasn't he? Oh, yes, at one point there in the mid-2000s, as they say, he was underneath. He was underneath Laurenitis, but I'm not trying to, I haven't been around Tavi Dreamer

or spoken enough to Tommy Dreamer or even like you, because I didn't see a lot of ECW, watched a lot of fucking Tommy Dreamer. So I can't, with specificity, go chapter and verse as you can on exactly all the different ways he should modify his behavior

and how we should dislike him as far as except for don't let him near a fucking writing instrument, a pencil, a pen, a typewriter, a laptop, whatever. I'm not saying, Kisle beside stone. I'm not saying don't like them.

Everyone can like what they want, but I'm saying don't put them in charge of the business. And that's the thing as I'm saying is that everybody says, we love Tommy. Tommy always tries to help. Well, you know, that can be a wonderful fellow.

It can also try to help you straight off the cliff. But based on what people are accusing him of here today, my God, I can't see that he's a horrible human being. Again, more stories are being posted about things. I don't even remember some of of this. Well, I would be more than happy to hear some of it. Apparently, when Rob Feinstein got

busted by perverted justice or whatever it was on the same TV channel that John Clark's, a sports anchor on of all coincidences in Philadelphia, he wanted to show up at Ring of Vine or defend Feinstein from the ring. Apparently, he wanted to get a... Oh, well, yeah, he's a wonderfully loyal fellow to his old friends. Everyone. He wanted to get a gun and kill Paul Heyman that wrestle baby. And see? Wait a minute.

That's a second thing. That's the second thing that I've figured out now that I dislike about Tommy Dreamer. One is his booking and two is him not following through with things. Oh, come on now. Now you've taken it too far. That's not enough. Well, he's always dropping the best work of his career since then. you can't deny it

yeah but imagine what a blaze of glory he would have gone on he would have shot himself in the foot that's the kind of guy he is that's the thing dreamer would have missed fucking Heyman as big as he is he would have missed him and he'd kill somebody

would have shot Louis and Garcia or someone that's what would have happened the timekeeper's down what the fuck's going on oh it's Tommy Dreamer he wasn't booked no it's chimmel chimmels down okay keep the show going That's not nice. Tony Chimmon.

Fine gentlemen. But, yeah, again, there's nothing in his track record that makes you think he could handle funning games aside. Nothing that shows you he can handle writing a good wrestling show. Nothing that shows you he knows how to book. Nothing that shows you he knows how to manage talent, apparently, or deal with people on a way that doesn't cause people to run the Twitter and complain about him. Well, Ed, yes, somebody people have been holding this in for a while.

now, but and also take a break because when you go from job to job to job in the wrestling business, sometimes by the time that you get to the lower part of those jobs, they've figured out that you're just going to take a goddamn job. So make them, make somebody call you and talk you into it rather than just, ah, I love the game. You know, you bring up Paul Heyman, you hear various people get mentioned as being, like Paul Heyman's ultimate creation. Like this is a great example of what he did with ECW,

how he fooled the fans and he got away with, you know, giving the least and getting the most out of it or showing none of the bad stuff and only the good stuff. Tommy Dreamer. Tommy Dreamer is a main event wrestler. He's the ultimate guy that Paul Heyman took. This guy with no physique, couldn't do a promo, couldn't work. He went to All Japan.

Dory Jr. got him booked in All Japan. You ever see those matches? Couldn't work. No. And he put him in a t-shirt, tell him to grow a goatee. had him pile drive women who then somehow became pregnant. The whole thing didn't make any fucking sense. And he did everything he could to make Tommy Dreamer the face of ECW.

And a lot of those fans still to this day don't get that that was like the Paul Hamid propaganda campaign. And I'm so I've never, I saw him since he was TD Madison or whatever the fucking IWCCW. There's never been anything there. but he hung around the business forever and I'm sure he'll hang around. What was he doing while Sandman was with the wet suit and the surfboard and the fucking polite shit on his nose?

Where was Dreamer along in his career? He was doing some kind of pretty boy thing at that point, wasn't he? See, this is right around the time they actually got the Sandman over because Paul Heyman was pushing Tommy Dreamer super hard when he took over ECW and the fans didn't take to him

because he sucked. I mean, he was not, and it was just like a generic baby face. Like, even think of the name. Like, hey, I'm Tommy Dreamer. What the fuck? What is that fucking name? Yeah, it was like the Italian street corner guy in South Jersey or whatever. And Sandman had the surfboard and the fucking weird scuba suit.

I'm Stevie Pillow. Like, what kind of fucking name is that? And he's getting pushed and Paul Heyman's really trying. Tommy Dreamer kicks out of the Superfly splash. Didn't get the fans to stop. him, start yelling at him. And then what he did was he got both guys over kind of at the same time. The Sandman had had been developing, and he had his stuff going on with him and woman.

And then Tommy Dreamer lost a match where he had to get caned. And he got caned ten times slowly while Woman teased them. And did those fans in Philly in that building, and it wasn't a full building at that point, I don't think, they started to respect that Tommy Dreamer took this beating. and then they did the angle where he allegedly accidentally hit the Sandman in the eye and the Sandman was blinded

and then the Sandman came back, took off the blinds, hit Tommy, Dream with the Can and started drinking beer and spoke to the same. It was at the same time, it's like Paul Heyman's, you know, I don't know what you want to say. Well, but here's the thing, the point is the way they got this guy over was that they really beat up the baby face

right in front of people hardweight him in effect, instead of in the face in the back with the cane. And then suddenly that was so revolutionary to them, the idea that if you beat up the baby face, it will get him over, that they proceeded to full on start hammering the fuck out of each other in that old company with sticks and chairs and bricks and pots and pans and tin cans and everything else they could use for the next fucking 10 years. is basically what happened. And again, to end this, I'll just reiterate

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You're not welcome anymore. Please, just go. Well, you've heard what Brian last has to say, Dreamers side of I'd recommend you start packing because. He knows people. Get out. Get out. The fucking.

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that they understand as gary hart said repetition is the key when dealing with goofs you should start ignoring things like that boil it down pretend it didn't happen like Like, you didn't have moldy figures. I turned yellow. Just pretend it didn't happen. But Jim, let's move on here with the show. I have a missive here that was issued by Dax Harwood. Listeners have sent it over.

Wanted to get your thoughts. Let me read this. Since the summer of 2014. The Revival. FTR. Dawson and Dash. Dax and Cash. Whatever you want to call us,

we've had the pedal to the floor. Aside from my bicep tear in 2017, we've taken no time away from the job we've dreamed of having. Physically and mentally, we both became exhausted. We were two of the very few talents that traveled and worked on both collision and dynamite. I've fought through three hematomas on my lower back. Another bicep tear I decided not to have surgery on. labrum tear from my groin to my hip a shoulder that needs replacement

I thought your labia was somewhere else Labrum a shoulder that needs replacement and probably a laundry list of other things I'm too afraid to get checked out ha ha for the first time in 12 years we've decided to step away

and take some time for ourselves and for our families I'm not sure when we'll be back what we're going to do how much longer we have or if we need to even prove anything at all anymore

however we will see some of you on August 22nd for Appalachian Mountain Wrestling as we take on the four brothers in Corbin, Kentucky, in the following week August 21. Wait a minute that, wait a long, hold on, This goddamn.

No. I'm almost not about. We got to be finishing. What the fucking breaks. All right, go ahead. Also, the following week, August 29th, for Rev. Pro undisputed British tag team championship as we

take on the Young Guns in Wembley Arena. Until then, enjoy my Hawaii family vacation pictures. Top guys. Out. What the, I'm just, how can you make that heartfelt

you know, speech like, oh, we don't know when or if we'll be back. We don't know how much time we got. We don't know what's going to go on. But we'll be in Corbin next week. Corby fucking Corbyn, Kentucky. Mama Cornyette was born outside of Corbyn, Kentucky. Quite a long time ago, as a matter of fact. And again, I'm not.

trying to poo-poo the amount of injuries he's had. You can see the fucking knee braces and the fucking time Cash's arm was ripped open and we've seen they've had various injuries. I'm not poo-poo and that at all and they work very hard. And how old are those guys now at this point? Because it was over 10 years ago they were in an NX and Jesus Christ, it was 2009 when I saw Dax on that little independent show and tried to get him and got him the Ring of Honor try out, which they were too busy.

Dax's 41, Cash is 39. Okay, so the point is I would understand and more if they just said, we're sick of this shit, rather than, and all the grueling schedule. Because as I said, I'm not poo-poo and the injuries they've had, but that's over a period of more than a decade. Both on the road for collision and Zabada, they're still having two matches a fucking week, maybe.

How often do they goddamn, we've seen them disappear for lengthy periods of time on dynamite. So the point is they do not have my sympathy on the schedule as far as the amount of times over the course of a month, every month, every year that they currently wrestle. It's probably the less in the history of pro wrestling as a goddamn business. The injuries, yes, can be cumulative, especially when, you know, you're around 40 years old, but I think their problem is, and this is a nice way of, saying it. Jesus Christ, we are fed up with just this fucking horse shit.

Horshit booking and horseshit tagged just the horses shit. Because what else do? They don't have anything else to prove. They're not in a place right now where they're going to be

used any differently or against any type of different people appreciably, or over the next year, whatever it is. And goddamn, can you think would it be any better in the WWE? So at this point, he's, you know, at least Dax, I don't know where cash currently resides, but Dax has a nice backyard and with a bunch of trees in North Carolina, and I'm sure he's got fuck you money from this billionaire for the last few years.

So if I were them, this is kind of, I'll say this, Brian, and you can chime in. This is kind of what I did when I cut that promo that aired on TBS when we left after, because we were just talking about them on one of these programs here the last week, about when we left WCW when we gave our notice because George Scott was the Booker and then they fired George Scott before we actually finished. but we still went away just to take the bad taste out of people's mouths the way we kind of had been used and then came back hopefully fresh two months later. They're probably going to stay out a lot longer than two months because Tony will just pay them infinitely like he does everybody. But is this their way of saying, yeah, they've just ground us into powder.

So we're going to go away for a while until we can do something somewhere that will make a difference. Well, again, they're announcing beyond Corbin, Kentucky, and boy, what a big show that sounds like. But they're going to be for Rev Pro in the UK on August 29th. August 30th is AW-W. Wembley. Well, well, maybe they'll just, they'll be added to the card at the last minute because they showed up at the back door with their bags. Unless this was to promote Corbin, Kentucky and Rev. Pro. Well, now you know where Corbyn is. It's 25 miles or so up the road from Barberville.

Well, they don't need promotion at all. Excuse me. I take it back. Do you see any point in putting out a missive like this? I know everyone's on social media doing it. If they were finished with everything, would be the point to do that. Or if they, again, were taking a break. if it was true, if everything they said there was true, we're just, fuck it, we need to take a break.

Then that would be a reason to put it out as long as you had already finished all your commitments. And if it's a work to lead to something, then you need to at least not have any commitments advertised. That you then have to plug them. and we promise we're done. Oh, but just did, I just need this chair. This chair is, and that's all I need. I'm done. Oh, and this lamp. You can't just go back on it in the same fucking statement.

And I don't think you can compare your promo on TBS knowing that you had given notice you were going to quit, but they had already made the move to get you to stay, but you were going to take that time. That's different than putting out a social media message. That's different than saying we've had all these injuries and we haven't taken time. time off, even though a lot of people have noticed. Like you said big gaps in their AEW career where they seemingly were off TV. If this is just so they could have a two-month vacation,

why do that? Why put out anything? Why say anything? Well, I'm not saying two, I've said ours was two months. I think they're probably going to, they've probably told Tony, I were beat up, we broke down, we're burnout. How long is our contract? Well, maybe we'll come back next year or whatever.

I think they're just like, ah, fuck this shit. All right, well, get well soon. Dex Harwood, I guess we could say, after reading all that, three hematomas on his lower back. Jeez. It's a fucking bruise. It's a bruise with a lump. Another bicep tear I decided not to have surgery on.

What are your thoughts? If a guy tears a bicep, should they have surgery? Or is it an okay thing to try to work through? Well, number one, I've never told a bicep, this secret before. I've never torn a bicep so I'm not going to blunder into that. If it was a fucking knee issue, then I'm plenty schooled

and I'd be able to give you a learned opinion. But I know that some guys haven't, some guys haven't. Some guys, the peck in front or whatever, they don't have fixed, whatever the case, it's always up to an individual

because sometimes you can compensate and depending on your style, Gordy went a few years with no ACL in either knee, whereas somebody else wouldn't have been able to do that. So, you know, I'm not poo-pooing that part of it. But I think they've realized that, holy Jesus Christ, we've got nowhere to go where we can do any goddamn thing worth of shit anymore. Let's just go home.

Of course, CFTR, Corbyn, Kentucky, and of course in the U.K. coming up soon to a town near you. And that Corbyn Kentucky event sponsored by a Chestnut Tax Service in Barberville for all, see Dennis Chestnut for all your tax needs. How old would he be now? He'd be, oh, my God, I bet you he'd be 83 by now, at least, if possibly 86. I want to get your thoughts on this, your expertise on this, because It's been around for years. You may be one of the first people that had it.

But Gary Michael Capetta put out a post on Facebook with it, and it really started going around. The listeners wanted to get your thoughts on it. Wait, wait a minute. I thought he told me that the test came back. He was clear. Jim, it's the... Because I was one of the first ones that had it,

but that didn't mean that he got it for me. Jim, it is the famous video from Memphis TV of what appears to be. be a completely drunk Adam West as Batman. Meeting the Super King. We have audio here to play. Want to get your thoughts on this. And of course, one of your famous phrases comes from this.

But we'll play a little bit of Adam West so people get here. Television's famous Batman. Well, now, set it up a little bit. As he's never sounded before. Well, set it up a little bit more coherently than that. This was the Saturday morning wrestling show. and this was 1976,

so they were still on W.HBQ Channel 13, but obviously it was Lance and Dave were the announcers. And the, I don't know whether they said the Carl Casper, one of those old-time

custom auto shows that you would see the commercials for. Carl Casper's Custom Auto show featuring, and they'd have a pretty girl celebrity with big old titties, and they would have a cool car,

car or like the Batmobile or they would have like Batman or in the days of Superman, Superman, whatever the fuck and to promote because Channel 5 had some interest to promote his appearance that day or Channel 13 I should say to promote his appearance that day

at the car show they got Adam West booked on the wrestling program and he couldn't wear because of whatever goddamn trademark deals he had with DC and you know, et cetera, he couldn't wear an entire Batman costume but he could wear like a track suit, a dark blue and gray kind of track suit

and then enough of the Batman cowl to where it passed, right? And this is what he was doing there that day when they brought him out on the show. That's the way you tell people what's going on. And he's got black bat gloves on. That's right. Dave Brown interviewing Batman. Let's go to this. I didn't want anyone to recognize me. But there is a rumor that Mr. Freeze and Penguin are here in Memphis

because of the radical change in the weather and that they have a hookup, a hookup with the evil king of Memphis. who just might be wrestling here this morning. Well, there's a cut there to law where coming out, so let me stop and how drunk was Adam West? Well, that's the thing. At what time? What time was this taped?

10 or 11 o'clock on Saturday morning, depending on, you know, exactly what I don't know, but it would have either been 10 o'clock or 11 o'clock. He had been enjoying from the story that I heard, the nightlife on Beale Street, and or wherever and had come to the studio apparently not having bothered

if he checked in his hotel room he didn't use it and they've got this set up and by the way I have it's unfortunate this is clipped up because this whole segment goes about five or six minutes I have the unedited segment

I borrowed Lawler's tape of it had only been done like four years beforehand and copied the thing but he was brought out there and you could tell you know and he talks about the evil king of Memphis and then as you heard the people start reacting there's a jump cut Lawler comes out

in a super king outfit it's a Superman red yellow and blue but with a big fucking crown on the front of the chest instead of an S and the cape and everything and here he come. When did he have that made. Apparently, almost immediately, after this booking was done. But see, that's the thing. Loller not only is a comic book fan and he loves Neil Adams, so Batman artwork and he's got a

Batmobile for fuck's sake. So he loved the Batman TV series. But every year he goes to Metropolis, Illinois, to that convention they have out there. He was there this year, just last month or whatever. was. The metropolis Illinois has a Superman convention. He loves Superman. So his chance to be Super King against the real Batman

is a fucking classic. And I don't know how long this goes, but they went back and forth for two or three minutes at least. Is that who I think it is? Yes, it is. What is this? What does it look like? Tell me,

what does it look like? I heard he was going to be here today, so I dressed appropriately. That's what it is. The Super King. What else? Okay, you say maybe you're going to be able to give us some help with this guy here. You're on the case, and I think we're going to need all the help we can get with the king. Well, you know, I've heard he's had his troubles with the Joker and the Penguin and Mr. Freeze, but he hadn't handled the King yet. And I got somebody in a box that I'm going to bring out here in just a few minutes that make the Joker, make a Joker look like Mickey Mouse. I can tell you that. Let me stop it there.

Is this the same episode where he has Dr. Frank in the box? Dr. Frank, yes. That's where he reveals or starts the reveal of Dr. Frank. I think they milked it a couple of weeks. But he brings his box out later in the show. I've heard about your box. Yes. I want to say that that costume that you're wearing,

if you are indeed the evil king of Memphis, has been stolen from a friend of mine, soup. Superman. I call him soup. Right. And I think that Spider-Man, Spidey Baby, would probably object to. By the way... Let me stop it there, because now we're crossing over...

Yeah, we're crossing over into Marvel Comics, because Adam West... He don't know where his goddamn cars parked, much less who's signed to what fucking magazine publishing company. Looking at you, I don't think it's too late for you. I think it'd possibly... If you change some of your habits, some of your methods of wrestling

if you used your left and right turn indicator in your car did other things that people normally do let me stop it there how did he keep a straight face at that line I think probably because he's so pickled he's numb and obviously people have heard you use that phrase

for years yes that's where that comes from yes from 50 years ago like this past bun when they're polite and courteous and you weren't such a naughty mean person it wouldn't be too late for you and i can see that you're not familiar with these rednecks that we have around here that's exactly right i tell you what gentlemen i look like splendid people to me and they're bat fans i know they are

and i think it's insulting to call them rednecks i think maybe we uh we better settle this elsewhere and again uh both of you're going to be dr frank in here anyway both of you're going to be down at the Cook Convention Center at the car show all this weekend. And maybe you can settle it there. Badman, appreciate you coming by. Thank you very much. He's not a nice man here. Well, there it is.

That's where it cuts up. Is that? Oh, no. Oh, no. He says he's not a nice man at all, but I believe there's hope for him. I believe we can rehabilitate him at Gotham State Penitentiary. Well, Gary Michael Capeta decided to clip that portion of it. What, is it he to blame or is he just?

stealing someone else's shoddy work and palming it off his... I'm not blaming him, but he's one who posted it. This is from Gary Michael. Well, he could have posted somebody else's post, and they could have edited it in a falsifying manner. Who knew? The world's most dangerous ring announcer and editor. Well, Jim, that was Super King meeting Batman. Too bad there's no follow-up.

Nothing else comes from this ever again. But with that, it's been a lot of fun so far. We shall return right after this short commercial timeout. for heaven's sake. I didn't get the chance to practice today, so I'm trying to get a little extra in just to... Yeah, I got time I could be playing with the puppies 15 more seconds, so that you

if you would just shorten that up a little bit. Well, Jim, speaking of puppies, the puppies are fighting again. Wrestling stars taking the social media to air out their grievances and challenge each other to work fights and shoot fights and work matches and who knows what's going on. It's the crazy

zany world of wrestling. We have an update. A feud or a story has broken out. Something's happening. There's all kinds of words breaking out. Words and phrases have broken out. I have something here from Fightful Wrestling News on Facebook. See, even the title of the sites is violent.

Bullie Ray says he would beat the shit out of John Moxley. Here's a quote. The Death Riders have not helped AEW in any way, shape, or form. The Death Riders are John Moxley playing at his pro-wrestling fantasies because he's got Tony's ear. Because he wants to be Terry Funk? Wow. I would kick the shit out of John Moxley. Ray added that Death Riders member, Claudio Castignoli, would pose a different challenge.

But he could certainly handle Moxley. Once again, here's another quote. but Moxley I'd beat the living shit out of him fraud and that's the quote oh my God well I mean we can break that down

but no lies detected is that what the kids say I mean it's hard to argue with that flat out declarative statement not only his evaluation of Moxley's work which is about what we've been saying for the past five years

but again, I don't, I haven't seen Bubba Ray in years and years, right? I haven't seen most people in years. And I don't like it that way. But I don't know how old he is right now. But the Bubba Ray that I have worked alongside of 15 years ago in TNA and sometimes a contentious relationship could kick the living shit out of John Moxon. but I don't, I don't, if he, if he's got diabetic issues now or any kind of health problems, I don't know about, I don't know if I'd bank the farm on him. But if he's, you know, he's 15 years older, but then again, Moxley's Moxley.

54 years old. Moxley's Moxley. I will say, I think I'd put my money on Moxley with the current day bully Ray. well in that case then still the you don't have to but i think i would i think i would well it it it still counts that he could have in his in his day it's not his responsibility to stay in fighting condition at 55 years old just to make good on what he used to be able to do to some motherfucker man new jack used to call him out left and right like i'm gonna kick your ass and nothing ever happened like you know i don't know what i did because i didn't say that he was going to be

kicking his shit out of New Jack, or that he would, if he did that he would want the constant sword of Damocles of repercussions hanging over his fucking hit. Well, again, I agree with his assessment of the death riders in Moxley.

I don't know why he had to add I would kick the shit out of Moxley. Again, the critique was actually pretty good. I agree with what he was saying, but all of a sudden it was, I could kick the shit out of him. Not Claudio. Well, but now here's the thing,

to be fair to Bubba Ray once again, an unknown fucking Home Depot clerk in Newport, Kentucky fucking tapped Moxley on video a while back. Remember in that amateur Brazilian hoist-gracy fucking wannabe jujitsu tournament thing that he did? That was the first one they were the only two in the division. So he came in second in the division because he lost the one match. That was the first match.

we saw. The second one was the better one because the referee stood the two guys up and he raised the opponent's hand and Moxley turned around and stared at the referee like, really? I didn't win? And the guy went to shake Moxley's hand and Moxley was too busy giving it to the referee. The guy just shrugged and walked away. Don't you know who I am? Oh, God damn it. But nevertheless, above his assessment of the talent or lack thereof is correct. I think. think Bubba's assessment at least back at his fighting days because, I mean, let's face it, this fight is never going to fucking happen on any of these people's part.

But it is fighting days. I would have put my money on Bubba against Moxley. And no, I think Claudio could whip the shit out of both of them. I don't have it here before I get to the next one. But I think Dave Meltzer was asked about this and he said one guy's trying to work an angle or a version of that. what do you think of that? Well,

not, I don't think he's trying to work it with Moxley. I think it's Meltzer's way of saying, oh, Bubba's just trying to get attention. He's trying to work his way into a match with AEW is what he's. I don't think he's even trying to do. I think if anything,

Bubba's just as fucking disgusted as we are with this fucking want to be Terry Funk because I get, you know, Bubba has the funk connection from ECW. and even bulbous assholes from New York can have goddamn feelings

Brian. So maybe even the bulbous Bubba Ray has to feel like, fuck you try to be Terry Fun. Being compared to Terry Fun. Because that's the first thing I heard about Moxley. When I'd never seen him when he was still

Dean warmer or whatever the fuck he was in WWF, and Meltzer was writing, oh, this guy's the next Terry Funk. And I'm like, holy shit. And then I saw him off, what the fuck? It was two of my all-time favorites.

It was either the next Harry Funk or the next Roddy Piper. Yes. And then you look at this little fucking, at that time he had a beetle haircut, which did him no good at all. And you said, what the fuck? He's play acting at a variety of things. Well, this triggered Josh Barnett, noted MMA fighter. What?

What am I from? Out of nowhere. How is Josh Barton? Oh, wait a minute. I get Moxley hangs around and sniffs the jocks of the real fighters, right? Okay. Well, Josh Barnett on Twitter, he's the war master, I think it says. He's an awful font here.

It's hard to tell. A lot of, again, a lot of violence in these people's hearts. They ought to get puppies. Josh Barnett retweeted a post about the bully Ray comments, and he wrote, interesting take here bully and that's in quotes bully mocks can handle himself just fine so he doesn't need me to fight any battles for him

but if you ever have the itch to feel what it would be like to have your ass kick so thoroughly to the point of epic humiliation I can help you with that I can not only quote beat the shit out of you but do so in a way as to make your ass kicking legendary For you, anytime.

Just ask. You know, I hate to take the side of someone take it up for Moxley, but God damn, that's great. Oh, well, again, but now to, we were being honest before, so I'll say that Josh Barnett, currently now, 15 years ago, or probably any other time in the history of mankind, compete to shit out of Bubba Ray Dudley. Well, he's only 48. I didn't realize that. He's only a couple years older than me. That's crazy. crazy. Well, and look at all the more he's accomplished than you. Thanks a lot, buddy. So, again, it's not like we have to lie again to say, no, in the chain of dog-eat-dog

and kick-ass kick or whatever, Barnett so far would be the clear winner here. And whichever match-up you, you want to field. Well, this got a reply from bully Ray. Oh, of course it did. Josh, I, too, can handle myself fine. Fight my battles. No periods, by the way, awful grammar. If you ever had the itch to feel what it's like to beat over so thoroughly that you can draw money, I can help you with that.

Not only can I put you over, but get you over in a way that would make your ass legendary. For you any time. Oh, God. So what are your thoughts on that, Jim? Oh, I wish he'd have sat around and stewed on it a little longer and come up with something better than that. I really do. Because that was almost that wot, wah, wah, wah, wah. And so he's saying that, well, yeah, you could just beat the ever-loving shit out of me.

But if you'd let me and work with me, I could take big bumps for you. I don't know if that's a big comeback. he can get you really over, Josh, just like the tables got him really over. Well, yeah, he's implying that because he's such a legendary master of wrestling psychology a la Eddie Graham and Leo Garibaldi, you know, that he could just lead this fucking schlub of a fucking MMA fighter through a work that would make him look like the next Tom McGee to Vince McMahon.

Have I sub-referenced enough? And that's what Bubba's comeback is, but it, it, the irony and the, the, just the, really the deep down gotcha of it all that Bubba thought that he possessed there really doesn't come out to the general population. No, I don't think it does. Josh Barnett replied, to be fair, we even replied, well, we could do it. the easy way or we could do it the hard way. To be fair, just from the comments under your post alone, it's clear you are correct here. The amount of people that would pay to see me pull you apart in a wrestling ringer

cage would definitely do good or great business. I guess that, and this is in quote, heat you've built over the years is pretty marketable, as even your fans, and that's in quotes too, truly want to see you get your ass kick for real. I got to say they are right, there is a large wrestling audience that if they knew that Barbara A Dudley

was actually going to be in a ring with someone who can fight, they would pay to see that. A hundred percent. Yes. A hundred percent. Remember he pulled some fans. He was booking Ring of Honor. It was the worst period of Ring of Honor ever or whatever,

but he was booking Ring of Honor and, like, he didn't like the way the fans were reacting during the women's match, and he pulled some fan in the back, lectured him about how to be a fan. Oh, yes, I remember that. Well, I remember hearing about that. I wasn't even that.

It's all these ECW guys that went through their head. It's crazy. Damn it. Apparently Barnett's going to go to his head repeatedly, one side than the other. Oh, God damn it. I, you know, again, even, you know, the worst person you know can make an excellent point.

all of these people do have points of various kind. And in some cases, if they comb their hair right, nobody will notice. What are your thoughts about, again, just the nature of guys going back and forth on Twitter like this, not like fans going back and forth, but actual televised television wrestling stars. Personnel that could, if they really wanted to, if they were motivated that much, they could find a fucking guy's phone number.

But then the thing is it's a public statement to the public that inflames whatever the guy is responding is to respond to begin with. So he wants people to know that that's his opinion, which is different from the one he just heard. And then they respond back because they want the public to know that will fuck you. how about that well let's to start out fuck you and so it almost has to be out there in public man I'm really getting hyped up for this I really want to see someone kick his ass now

well that's not going to be out there in public yeah see that's the because they're never actually going to fucking talk about this and it would be the most disappointing thing ever if all of a sudden it was like announced like Bloodsport Josh Barnett versus bully Ray like oh great that's what they would be more like power slap power slap where it'd be There'd be, in a fight with me, there'd be two things hit. Me hit you and you hit the floor, motherfucker.

That type of thing. The ECW alumni continue to have a banner week. Staying on top of the wrestling news and the thoughts and minds of all wrestling fans throughout the world. Jim, after a thorough social media ass kicking like that, you may need a good night's sleep. You may always need a good night's sleep. You may always need a good night's sleep, no matter what the day, no matter what the circumstance or situation, a good night's sleep is important, and we know someone who could deliver a good night's sleep with a top-of-the-line great mattress that we love. Well, you see, you said they can deliver it, and that's a play on words, because it actually will be delivered. It'll be delivered to your home or delivered to your apartment or delivered to potentially the home or apartment of your mistress, whoever you're buying this thing for.

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I don't know what's going on, that twisted world happening over there. Are you in the... Well, it's depending on who you live next to. I don't know. Listen, what we're talking about... Yes. I reiterate, I go back to the beginning, Jim, back to where we began, a good night's and a good night sleep. A good night sleep. And boy, I'll tell you what, you got to watch out because if you get too many good night's sleep, you'll get fired. That's if you're working the

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I saw a little bit of the end, but it was on at 2 p.m. because they're in England, and Bananza had Tully Savalas on this week. That's at 2 o'clock. So I had to watch that. There you go. You can't compete with, who loves you, baby? Can't compete with telly on the telly, with a bunch of jelly

and they were in London for raw. This was June 22nd and by the way I watched the segment I'm about to tell you about which was the only pithy thing that happened over the course of the two and a half hours of the program but they're in London they just got back from France right? They were in France

for two fucking weeks or thereabout somewhere in that environment. Italy. oh Italy not France Italy Terino where is where is Italy compared to France it's it's the boot down Deboot

well nevertheless they just got back from France or Italy or wherever the fuck they were back in the United States now they're in London and they're going to be in Saudi Arabia this coming weekend did they I'm not even going to say did they get to go home from London

before they go back to Saudi Arabia because why would you goddamn want to? You'd meet yourself coming and going by the time you did that. But Jesus, Christ, on a cracker, did they ever let people work in their home country anymore? This would be the seventh level of Dante's Inferno to me. If the wrestling business had been this way 50 years ago, I would be, a retired newspaper reporter doing this fucking program right now.

Except obviously I wouldn't be doing this fucking program right now. But it wasn't like, oh, if you get into wrestling business, you get to, you go to the Mid-South Coliseum or the Omni in Atlanta. You have to go to fucking Saudi Arabia, Italy, France, London, Belgium, Portugal, the Isle of Man, and Saipan. So right off the bat, I would have declined this thing. Say hi to Rose when you're in Saipan. Hello, Rose.

My little Saipanese flower. So anyway, they were in London. They had 13,000 and some people there to join them. And the first thing you saw in Raw and is Oba's entrance. And because they're in London, And it's the international audience that is, they're prone to chant and sing, so here's something you,

it's Taylor made to be chanted for, so they fucking chanted for it. He, oh, by who, and, bro, Brian, you say you didn't see it, but he came out in very fancy street clothes. I mean, nice slacks and a colorful and,

you know, celebrity-looking shirt. He looks great, but I'm wondering should he be in the gear, the old saying, should he, why cover up that physique? You'd get, you know, guys that the underneath guys, you'd say, Jesus Christ, if I look like you, I'd go around naked. But I think it makes him look even bigger and more imposing when he's in his gear rather than, but again, they love to humanize people. I always thought wrestling stars were supposed to be bigger than life so you can look up to them and, you know, they're the heroes and the villains. But now everybody's supposed to be a human being with problems and issues just like all the rest of us in this hurry, scurry world, Brian. I agree and disagree at the same time.

Because I always liked on local promos when baby faces and heels would dress in their street. clothes and you kind of get to see it wasn't like anything was like oh I'm surprised he's wearing that it was kind of an extension of who they were so I don't mind every now and then see like Randy Orton I don't think we've ever seen in street clothes or not

in like 20 years or something because he doesn't look like a star in street clothes yeah but everyone wears their gear for a lot of the things I don't know I don't mind it well since Obo was born he's been backed by destiny

and destiny has been very, very good to him. And I got to be honest, they give this guy the same kind of flowery, stilted verbiage that no human being would really say because they've got to justify their position as writers, but he pulls it off. He not only,

he says it more naturally than a lot of people would, and also I think the actual, accent helps because you expect a guy who English may allegedly be a second language to say things in somewhat of an odd fashion sometimes or use. But he sounds like a very educated, like a guy from England, or from England, he'd still be speaking English. A guy from Europe in a fucking 70s sitcom or whatever that would be talking like this with the accent. but would be very learned type of thing. Is that helping, do you think? Or can he just act well enough

to make this hokey horse shit sound like he means it? I think it's working so far. Well, when he wins the king of the ring, the question that he has in his mind is which belt should he go after? And he didn't mention champions. He mentioned the, however, they call it the WWE title

or the World Heavyweight Championship and that's what got the pop. Remind me, Brian, who's got which now? Roman's the world champion. Yeah. The belt that's the belt that they created because, yeah, he would never defend

the other belt that he had. And Cody. So they obviously don't want to see Oba beat up Cody, but they sure do sound like they want to see Oba beat up Roman. But nevertheless, as soon as they did that, they played Jay Uso's music.

And here came Yeat. And he's doing it. He yeeded all the way through the audience. They're playing the music. There's still a lot of fans yeating, but does it seem like it's not as crazy as it was at the first, which is natural, if things get older.

But should we yeat? Is yeeting a sign of disrespect to Oba in the fan's mind? Should we, should we wholeheartedly yeat with all of our strengths when it may lead to the downfall

of our ruler? I also think the fact that there's no consistency right now with the Uso's or Roman in terms of, well, really just the Uso's with being baby-faced or heels, it's all circumstantial, then that doesn't help either.

Well, no, the circumcissional never helps. But that's the thing is that you weren't sure exactly from the way that they've been talking whose side of the fence they ought to be on and what they do over there, they beat up the comedian the other night, Jacob did. But I made dinner while Jay got in the ring, and finally the music stopped,

and then he threatened to run it back and fucking no Oba said don't you dare run it back and he ran it back and then finally Jay did the promo about everybody counted him out all his life

blah blah blah but he's going to do what he's going to do and shock the world and I think if Jay Uso ever did a 10 minute promo they would need to wheel an oxygen tank in would they not he looks he's blowing himself up once he's got there. And the yeating can't be,

and yeaton can't be easy. He does, but anyway. He does seem like he can use a volume pretty often. Either that or possibly a suppository. I don't know if he needs to expel something or bring

something else in. But he cut the promo and put his finger up and the fans started chanting oba. And then Oba said, well, when you shoot, don't miss, because I'll destroy you. And even if you do miss, I'll still, or hit me, I'll still destroy you. Or some way he said it, either way, I'm going to destroy you.

You're not the family member I'm worried about. That was the good. And then I remember, but it's just, it's odd. In AW, all the heels are mad at each other. Well, and all about everybody's. mad at each other. That's why he can't keep track. But in the WW, more often than not,

at the top of the card, it's the baby faces that are mad at each other, and the heels are just wandering around. Sounds exciting. I wish I had not watched Little Joe getting... You wish you'd missed more of it. Little Joe got into a big

issue with Tully Savalas' character, who was this really rich guy that wanted to buy the Ponderosa. And then, you know, and Oh, I remember that. He just started poisoning the town. He started buying up other land. He bought the store so the cartwrights couldn't get any feed. Yeah.

I had to see what was going to happen. Telly Savalas. And then they couldn't plant the corn that would grow the seed that would get the crop that would buy the farm that they would live on forevermore. And they, so they all shot each other. Is it wrong that I now think of a young cowboy Bill Watts when I watch Hoss Cartwright? Well, that was... Did you watch anything else on Raw? No.

That was Raw. I did see that they continued the drama with Solo Sikola Cost Jimmy Uso as match against, I think, L.A. Knight. Well, that's a shame. So the bloodline drama continues. Spoiling things for everybody. All right, well, since that's all you watched of that, Jim... Let's preview the night of champions, or the afternoon of champions, or possibly the morning of champions, depending on what time zone you will be in. It's going to be the breakfast of champions pretty soon.

It's coming up this weekend as we are recording from the Kingdom Arena in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. I have the card here, Jim, this will be, I believe. Now, is this, hold on, is this an actual real arena? Did they build this one from scratch, or is this one the one that they've had all along? I don't know. I have no idea. But we have a big card,

a big day of afternoon wrestling action here on the East Coast. Day of afternoon. Let's get to it, Jim. In the match for the WWE Women's United States Championship, the champion Tiffany Stratton versus J. Karker. Well, I don't know if anybody's going to flip their wig over this one. Now, here's the thing, contractually.

Could this be a loophole if Tiffany loses? Again, how could you justify defending the U.S. title on Saudi Arabian soil unless they're at the consulate? What about that if they have the match at the consulate? The heel says, I've gone to court, you can't have a U.S. title match. less it's on U.S. soil, and then they kidnap her in a panel van and take her to the consulate where they have a match to the death in the basement, and the special referee has a bone saw. So who do you think will win the match?

Oh, the guy with the bone saw. Well, he's not in the match. Oh, he's not there. He's not there. They'll be wearing more clothes in this match than you've ever seen either of them wear. Now, what would be the protocol if her, wig comes off in Saudi Arabia. Are they going to cane her because she showed her naked head?

How would that be handled? That's an interesting question, because other women will have their natural hair out, but I guess once you do cover it, do you lose the right to have it uncovered? Huh. Is there a protocol? Do they have a hair protocol? I get people that handle pubes, pits,

and heads that would be able to discern that. and give us a ruling because elsewise they won't know how to act. All right, it sounds like you don't want to make a pick, and I understand it's... Well, I'm paying that Tiffany is going to retain, and especially if Jade's wig comes loose, Jade will immediately lose the use of one arm.

Jim, in the finals of the men's king of the ring tournament, Jay Uso versus Obafemi, winner gets a title match at SummerSlam. Well, there's only one of two things that they can do here. Well, one would be obviously, Oba should beat Jay. One would think that that would happen, but that would mean that Oba would be locked into a title match at SummerSlam.

And if we are to believe what we are to be, believe that would be the place where Brock Lester would return the favor in Minneapolis. But perhaps that may not be happening. Perhaps that to get Brock to do it the first time, they told him what he was going to get to do the second time. So if Oba is going to wrestle Brock at SummerSlam, then some way or another, Jay Uso has to win and would Brock cost him that or cost Oba that.

But if Oba wins this, then that means that he ain't wrestling Brock at Somerslan. And I don't know how excited anyone it is about Jay Uso in the main event of SummerSlam, but we'll see what happens. The Queen of the Ring Finals, Jim, winner gets a title match at SummerSlam, E.O. Sky.

Versus Liv Morgan. Please live. Put her at a time machine or a spaceship or a rocket to Mars or a maker invisible. Maybe Danhausen has some type of machine. Just get her away from me. My God, she's the longest ready. I don't think that the Brooklyn Brawlers run in the WWF was not this long.

When they say time flies when you're having fun, I guess it goes in the opposite direction. When you're miserable. Jim, the next match. For the United States Championship, the champion Trick Williams versus Ricky Starks. Excuse me, Ricky Saints. Well, now the big question is, where's little Yachty? You think they talked a little Yachty into going all the way over there and taking a chance on getting his head chopped off? Well, I mean, they have a lot of money.

well but he ain't got a lot of head I'm gonna go with trick I'm gonna go with tricky tricky see I he's he's one of my friends that's what I call him tricky tricky Jim two more big matches and are going to remind her the first hour will be live on ESPN wait a minute what kind of fucking show is this

you've already given us five matches two more two more this is like goddamn the biggest show ever I've given you four matches. In a steel cage, Seth Rollins versus Braun Breaker. I'm thinking and hoping that this will be fabulous, and I think Braun needs to win.

You know, not obviously just beat him and wipe his feet on him. Seth needs to have an out, but Braun needs to get a somewhat for a heel, decisive victory, in this because he's the young guy coming up and he needs it. And they ought to be able to have just a swell match as well if everybody's still healthy. And Jim, finally, triple threat match for the undisputed WWE championship.

Cody Rhodes, the champion versus Gunther versus Sammy Zane. You know, I would have just shit all over this and yawned and been bored and not give a fuck and cut a promo on them if they'd have just announced this, you know, out of the blue like they usually do. But after the way they built up the match where they shot the angle for this was Sammy as the referee, I want to see this.

And if they do as good a job with this as they did with that laying out that match, then this could be one of the best, and I know this is a low bar, but one of the best triple threat matches we've ever had. So I want to see what they come up with. Speaking of what they come up with, they have to come up with a SummerSlam main event. If it's Cody Rhodes, there are a couple different directions they can go. If it's Gunther, a couple directions they can go. Sammy's the real underdog here, but imagine if they gave Sammy a big title win in Saudi Arabia?

Then we're throwing cabals in the air. Well, have you seen the way they feed those camels over there? That's true. That's true. They might be overmatched there. But I don't see unless they've got him as a wonderful transition into something that would involve other people. I don't know why they would insert Sammy into the belt at this point in time. All right.

I'm in a fantasy book for a second. Sammy cost Cody the match, but Sammy doesn't win. Gunther wins. Goes to SummerSlam. Gunther versus Obafemi. That I like. Keep Jay Usil out of the main event. Cody's got something that'll be pretty hot, him and Sammy.

I have confidence, and then not fucking that up completely in the weeks until SummerSlam because of Sammy's performances. Well, but also here, I'm just thinking that with it being Oba and Jay and Oba, making the statement, you're not to member of the family, I got to worry about, or that I'm worried about. Will Jay be some conduit to get Oba

into Roman more than, and hopefully the fans as well, more than Oba and Brock? Is that what they're trying to go for? We shall see. You know, they've done a good job with this main event picture here for this. You can't really figure out

how they're going to get to where they're going to go and you don't know exactly what the matches will be, but you kind of have an idea of who's floating out there. Again, CM Punk still not back. Drew McIntyre still not back. So other main eventers still not mixed in. But also the good thing is we're not asking questions like we do about AEW. Why?

Why is this happening? Why would you sign this person? Why can't they see blah, blah, blah. This is, you've got a couple of different ways that you could go and they would either one makes sense. So this is somewhat of a constructive conversation about questions. And this show, I think, has a couple of better main events than most of these other weekly put together. I don't mean weekly as in 52 weeks a year.

I mean weekly as in a week they couldn't draw a greasy string out of a cat's ass. These weekly put together big shows lately, this has a little bit of some movement. to it. Well, Jim, that's W.W.E.'s Night of Champions from Saudi Arabia. We have another show to preview, Jim, coming up this weekend as well.

Uh-e-W. In conjunction with New Japan Pro Wrestling, CMLL and wrestle or Wonder World. What is this? World Wonder Ring Stardom. That's the official name. What are you saying?

World Wonder Ring Stardom is the official name of Stardom. Forbidden Door. or 2026 from San Jose, California. How did they phrase it in conjunction with or in cooperation with? They bought everybody on the New Japan roster. It was worth two dicks at a tickle. And so now it's not like that New Japan talent is anything revolutionary or coming through a forbidden door.

They've got a bigger problem getting a visa than they do getting on the card. and against stardom, yeah, bite me, bite me, blow you, whatever the fuck. It's ridiculous. And there was CMLL because the WVEs try to put them out of business with AAA. So how is this door at any way forbidden? It sounds like a goddamn revolving door to bus station in Manhattan. Everybody gets to come through it.

Well, a big night of wrestling action. It's just questions I'm asking. Well, maybe I have some answers here for you. Jim on the pre-show to the AEW Women's World Tag Team Championship, Divine Dominion of Megan Bain and Lena Cross champions versus Thunder Rosa and Olympia. Well, wait a minute. I would say who did Thunder Rosa piss off, but apparently that answer is usually everybody. but I don't even know who the fuck is Olympia.

Well, you've missed a lot. Jerry Stubbs has really changed. You know, I always wondered about Stubbs because he had that small head with that big chest. So the two brainless Amazons are going to kick this shit out of these other two girls, whether they like it or not, probably, or whether they mean to or not.

Sounds like a main event anywhere in the country to meet, Jim. Anywhere in the country with a zip code with four numbers in it. For the AEW World Tag Team Championship, the champions, Cope and Cage, versus the dogs, David Finley and Clark Connors. I mean, you know, what can you say? They're trying to work with some of the young fellows and, you know, get them over, have a good match with them, whatever the goal is. here but to look at these two dogs and they're kind of the you know the runts of the litter and

there's nothing special about them and they've come in and appeared in groups running into the ring and beating people up but there's they have no track record of major wins or a concerted sustained push so people are thinking okay these guys are stars. these guys aren't. And even if Andrew Christian put them over it, ain't going to change anything in this one fucking match. Well, Jim, our next big match, a big three-way match,

the Young Bucks, Matt and Nick Jackson, versus El Sky Team of Mystico and Moscarra Dorada versus Unbound Co. What? The Japanese faction of Shingo Takagi and Titan.

Unbound Co? What the fuck is Unbound Co? A branch of Petco? They have a logo too with a horrible font. I don't know what this is. I don't. There's a reason New Japan chased off fans like me. Well, and this is going to be the trampoline match

where the Buccouros get to play with people who are apparently their friends from other exotic locale. Let me announce. in advance, referee, Rick Knox. The only match I can tell you who the referee will be. Jim for the AEW Continental Championship, the champion John Moxley

versus Bandito. Oh, good Lord. You think Moxley will have the patience to grab the ropes and bend over and assume the position for that dipshit to fucking flip it over his back and then German suplex him? Or do you think he'll just attempt to take him down with his jiu-jitsu mastery before he gets the opportunity?

I think there's going to be a lot of John Moxley walking around talking to himself, like walking from one corner to the other. And I also think they'll probably, for no good reason, start trading blows really slowly towards the end of the match. And it'll be just like every other John Moxley match. I predict Moxley over.

Jim, for the IWGP Global Heavyweight Championship, the champion Shoda Umano. Who? Versus Peck. I, you know, I bet they won't switch the belt. I don't even know what the belt looks like or what it is, but I bet they won't switch it. Well, Jim, there's still more action. Still more.

for the AEW Women's World Championship, the champion Tecla, versus Starlight Kid. Starlight Kid, is that a guy? I always saw the name, and I never, I guess, paid attention to what cards. Starlight Kid was on. I guess it's a girl.

Who knew? Well, that, have you, have you ever had another? Can you, have you ever had another? I've had another. Can you, well, another nutter, peanut butter sandwich cookie. Have you ever seen

or can you recall off the top of your head another female in fiction or comic book heroes or whatever that was called kid something kid

or be raw hide kid derango kid fucking sidekick kid whatever that sounds odd. and what is what's, does she have starlight

coming out of her cooch? What's going on with her? What is her gimmick? What does she look like? I think we may have to check out at least one of the women's matches. You like Tecla, at least on promos. Can you give this match a chance?

Unless this is in some way, shape, or form, one of these stardom outlaw Japanese indie apartment house girl wrestlers, I'll watch it. Jim, in the finals of the Women's Owen Heart Cup, winner gets a title shot at All In. Mercedes Monet versus Maya World.

Oh, Maya God. Okay, I'll watch... You'll watch Teckla and a Starlight Kid? See, I'll watch Teckla and the Starlight Kid. I thought you fell over there for a second. I heard your head hit the ground. All right, no prediction of who. No, my prediction is I'll watch Tecla and a Starlight kid.

Dr. Martha Hart, I'm assuming we'll be there. Is Dr. Martha Hart going to fight him too? That'd be to be a three-way. Wouldn't that be fucking something? All of a sudden, Martha Hart got in there started doing, I want Hart's moves. So all you'd have to do is put in the headlines. Martha Hart in a three-way in Calgary and boom.

Well, again, they're not in Calgary. They're in San Jose. and there's still more action. You'd have to go to Calvary to get a three-way with Martha Hart. Jim. Yes. Our apologies to Dr. Martha Hart. But our next match here, no title on the line, no stipulation, a rarity on this card.

Kenny Omega versus Zach Sabre Jr. Oh, good Lord. So this is gonna be where, because they can and it's fun for them, Kenny, who's again still presented as one of their very top baby faces, will go in there and just have the hardest time in the world dealing with this human fucking Q-tip, a fucking delinquent from an 80s John Hughes movie. Zach Saber Jr., who in his, with his buggy whip arms and his garden hose legs, and his waist the size of Andre's ring finger

is going to goddamn do all these fancy fucking moves and Kenny's barely, at least Kenny has some weight to him, some size, a couple of biceps. As long as he doesn't open his mouth, you think he might be able to whip somebody. And here's going to come this fucking frail,

teenage-looking fucking tampon, and they're going to go 30 minutes trying to choke each other's chicken like Tony Charles and Billy Robbins. Well, Jim, there's still more. Oh, good God, how much more? The finals of the men's Owen Hart Cup, the winner gets a title match at all in.

Will Osprey versus Swerve Strickland. I just, I don't. I can't. I just can't. If I only had time. You understand? Because the things going on, Brian last,

that you don't know. You don't know, but now you know, because if you know, then that's half the battle of knowing. Certainly to God, Will Osprey's going to win this. Certainly to all the fictitious day above that people pray to around this big blue marble. Will Osprey is going to win this, and Will Osprey is not going to lose anything

until he gets to the stadium. But that's just me. Well, Jim, finally. Oh, God, there's more. In a steel cage. Oh, I for fucking God. If Mark Briscoe's team wins, he will earn an AEW world title match against MJF.

Team Brisco of Mark Briscoe Orange Cassidy Roderick Strong Kyle O'Reilly Kanoosuke Takestha and you and Darby Allen

versus M.JF and the Don Callis family of Kevin Knight Kyle Fletcher Jake Doyle Kazushka Okada and Eldrani Blah

Blah Dandri I'm going to get this out somehow, folks. And Andrade El Edelow. The Eldrabe head waiter-o. Again, remember when we had the big fucking main event cage match with Undertaker and Austin and Vader and fucking mankind and Kane. And then we put in two members of Kai and Thai and Thai. one of the guys that came in on a tryout.

Can I stop you for one second? Because it's happened a bunch of times that people are now pointing out. Do you hate Kainty? They're the example you use every single time. Never anyone else. It's always, they focus on Kianti. And no, because it's just that everyone can remember that while they were young, spiffy, well-meaning fellows,

they never got past the second fucking match. So actually, it's not really a knock on Kiyan Thai. as much as an example of where they were positioned during their entire run. I think Dick Togo could have been a star. Dick to go, if we'd have marketed it, Dick to go could have might been something. Because that's the way that,

that's why they wouldn't have me do commentary on a lot of their matches. But anyhow, but no, it just, this is, the 12 man is ridiculous. and again, because MJF is in this, and if they're going to shoot any kind of angle out of it, it should be for their main event at the stadium, but I can't see how they're going to shoot something

to promote an MJF and Osprey match when they've cluttered it up with all these people, and Osprey's not even involved. Well, yeah. It's AW-F-Fraibed-Dor. big night of action, big weekend of action. First fucking forbidden door I've ever seen not only unlocked somebody's drilled a glory hole, two feet from the bottom of it.

And are they running against, I guess they are. NXT has their first premium live event, the Great American Bash on CW live at 7 p.m. Oh, golly. Well, they also better worry about the new Buckees is opening up down on Interstate 65 around Munfordville. Jim, we've never talked about it. What are your thoughts on Bucky? It's a convenience store.

No, it's bigger than that now. It's a whole, it's like a lifestyle. It's a glorified convenience store. And it's the same thing. What is that the place up there up in the northeast that everybody, oh, you got to go to someone's Wawa. It's the same. No, Wawa burgers are not better than a goddamn normal fast food place.

No, Wawa is not some goddamn destination. that you should, if you have to travel and you have to be stopping for food or gas or goddamn a piss or whatever, then a wah-wah is as good as any. But you're still just stopping for a quick bite, a quick piss, possibly a slightly longer shit, and to get whatever necessities you've forgotten to bring

because you're away from home. You don't need to go walk around a guy, goddamn buckies for an hour and a half. Shopping. It's ludicrous. You ever have those, what do they call them, those corn nuggets they have? You know what I'm talking about? The beaver nugget thing they've got going on.

Beaver nuts or whatever. Well, yeah, see, you didn't want to kiss my dog's balls, but you want to eat a beaver's nuts. If they taste it as good, I'd consider it. These are delicious, but, uh, well. It's like, I have them here. I'm eating them right now. folks. How about some road apples to go along with them?

No, I'm not a person who goes to it. It was the same thing with the Love's store. Loves. They were down in Oklahoma 40 years ago when the only place you could get anything to eat really in between Oak City and Tulsa on a Sunday with our schedule was to stop once you got on the Indian Nation turnpike. Right there was a Love's store where it was a truck stop and showers and gas and they had a deli and they had sandwiches. Everybody's like, oh, loves and loves.

It's a goddamn gas station. It makes sandwiches. I was not goddamn impressed. It was we had to eat something so that we wouldn't just get nauseated and vomit up empty stomach bile. So it's, that should be their slogan, loves sandwiches, better than vomiting. empty stomach bile. But otherwise, no, it's not a place I'm going to go on my vacation. Well, speaking of stomach bile, that is AEW Forbidden Door, and of course, Jim,

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Is that what you're going to say? Well, a lot of the events are named after activities in the casino. Maybe if we can combine. Oh, I see what you see. All in, all out, double or nothing. Joker's Wild. Call 1-800, blow me for your favorite hooker, ask for Evelyn, that type of thing in the casino world.

Evelyn's a hell of a hooker. Evelyn? Well, that's why she was special. She was, she was classy. Jim, let's hook our way back to what we were talking about. What were we talking about? Wherever you are, you may want to go to the casino, Draft King's Casino. Take me to the casino. Drop me in the water. That's right, ladies and gentlemen, what do you get? Here, riddle me this, Batman. What do you get when you combine bingo-style bonuses and slots?

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All right, well, this has been the drive-thru. The Zoom screen, the Zoom screen is just asking me if I want to play music. Playing music? Jim, let's get some questions here on the show. This one is the kind of question we can. get pretty often from listeners who join in. Obviously, a lot of new listeners keep jumping on board. This one was sent in.

Corny Drive-Thru at gmail.com from Evan Carr. For those of us who are new to the show, can you tell us who George Scott was, what his problem was, and his legacy in the wrestling business. There are some people who only know his name because of you talking about him, and obviously it's a small window into the wrestling life of George Scott. Well, George Scott was originally starting in the, I guess they probably started in the early 50s.

He was a professional wrestler from Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, and he and his younger brother Sandy, who was the Sandy Scott that many people see on the 80s Crocket television when he'd be in contract, or press conferences or whatever. Sandy Scott worked in the office for Crockett for years and years. George and Sandy Scott were a noted tag team. George was the older brother,

and George also got the opportunity to book in a number of places. I can't quote his whole career chapter and verse, but primarily in the ring, they were noted as the Scott brothers. And they did work on top as main event guys. in a variety places, everywhere across Canada, the United States, they were especially popular in the Carolinas when the territory of Jim Crockett Sr. was a tag team territory, Johnny Weaver and George Becker,

Bronco Lubich and Aldo Bogni, the assassins, although they were the bolos in the Carolinas, the Kentuckians, et cetera. So Sandy ended up staying in the area living up near Roanoke, Virginia for most of the rest of his life. And he worked in the office for Crockett. He promoted towns and did various office things.

Whereas George had worked, as I said, as a Booker at a variety of territories and was then most noted because he's the one that they brought in to be the Booker after Crockett Sr. died John Ringley, the son-in-law, Francis's husband, was exposed as having an affair and was excommunicated from the family and they wanted to get a booker

and George Scott was the guy they chose. And because George Scott had connections with a variety of top talent because he'd been into business for 20 years and booked in other places, he had the connections to bring in Wahoo McDaniel or Blackjack Mulligan or the Mr. Wrestling Tim Woods. The original top stars that he brought in

to change the Carolinas from a tag team territory that was oriented with guys that were mostly known there to a more singles-oriented territory with nationally known stars and the top talent in the NWA. So for that, he got a tremendous reputation as the architect of the Carolina's golden years. But as a Booker,

he had Wahoo McDaniel recommending, yeah, bring this guy in, you know, the name Rick Flair, I think he's got a lot of potential. And he had Wahoo and Johnny Valentine telling him, Here's how we work our program. And he had all these other top stars that were capable of giving input and doing their thing.

So I've always wondered, since he never had anywhere near that level of success as a Booker anywhere else, if it wasn't that he came into an established territory and brought in countless top guys, that he knew and let them do their shit. Because after that, Brian had helped me. But when in 82, he booked into Carolinas from what, 75 to 82. And then he got sideways with Crockett. For what reason? I'm trying to think now.

Oh, I don't remember. Got sideways with his brother too. Well, yeah. Well, and that's another thing is that even something happened in their personal life that even when they still worked in the territory together, George and Sandy Scott did not speak to each other for the, as far as I know, for the rest of their lives. And even to the point where when George Scott came back in 89, and that was before the TBS had let Sandy go, which is why he was able to work with me all those years in Smoky Mountain. when they saw each other, the day that George got first showed up, they actually rode up in the elevator together.

It's the first time they'd seen each other in person in, I believe, over a decade. And they didn't speak. Now, to be fair, there's a chance George didn't know who he was. That's why I thought he had Alzheimer's. I really did. Because you didn't see any great ideas. You didn't see any...

evolutionary concept that he was changing for the better, you didn't otherwise that he brought steamboat in. Because Steamboat trusted him because he had been the Booker and brought Steamboat in into Carolinas years before. But what did Flair have to say about all this? Because obviously his career took off when George Scott was the Booker, but did they have a good relationship? And when he came back in 89,

I mean, Flair was one of the only prominent people treated well, but still he saw what was happening. What did he think? Well, at first, he was like all the other people that had worked with George Scott from 10 years before or 15 years or whatever had been. Oh, yeah, this would be great. And then he realized because it was the number

on the clash of champions with him and Steamboat that led to them firing George Scott because he didn't want to promote the fucking clash of champions because he had Flair and Steamboat booked at the house shows that weren't drawing either. So then Flair had to demand the book from the committee that they had to quickly form to replace George Scott who they had not planned on firing.

So Flair saw within it was three months that he was there. Flair figured it out. and you know I knew as quickly as I knew we were doomed under George Scott if I didn't know the whole thing was doomed but I knew we were because of the way that he talked to us

or didn't talk to us and I mean again he brought in steamboat and he brought in the Iron Sheik and signed Sheik to a two-year contract for 150 grand a year and they couldn't get out of it for the first year

and by the second year George Scott was so long gone and they had sent Sheik home and just send him his check they forgot to terminate him and the contract rolled over so they brought him back to fucking TV figuring we'll just make him do job after job and it'll run him off but he said okay and he did the jobs

but he was so broken down by then and the matches were so bad, the jobs were bad. So they sent him back home and paid him for another year. And then he went to the WWF and became Colonel Mustafa, joining Sergeant Salah and Sheikh Adnan, or General Adnan at that point. But I think the second year, I'm pretty sure he got paid the entire year's salary for like six matches.

Did he have any great defenders after he left? Anyone who said, you guys got it all wrong, you don't understand him, or he's got good ideas. No, no, it's not that it's not that anybody was saying we hate the sheik and we want him bad things to happen to him. I'm talking about George Scott. Oh, about him afterwards?

Me? Plenty, yes. No, did anyone have positive things to say? Did anyone actually, you know, say that you guys got it wrong. George Scott's misunderstood. He didn't get a chance. Well, his son, his son, Byron, that he hired to be a referee. How long did he last?

He was gone about the same time George was. Um, there was Strongbow son, Vincent Young, the break dancer. He, he probably wished George was back because that's George Scott was friends with Strongbow from years ago in Georgia. Um, and there was another, Paul Jones, Paul Jones, because Paul Jones, if you notice, got lost in the fallout. because he had a job for good with Crockett because Crockett, he had been tight with Jim Crockett, senior, and Jim Crockett, Jr. They were never going to get rid of Paul Jones.

And then when the company was sold, the only guy that could possibly have saved Paul Jones's job, George Scott, his old friend and Booker from 15 years before, so they made him an agent. Because they couldn't, you know, it could keep him on the air managing, but they made him an agent. But then when George Scott was gone, Paul Jones was no longer an agent. And they didn't even have to take him off the air because he was already off.

Jim, our next question sent to corny drive-thru at gmail.com, is from John. I was in radio, Rockford, Illinois, for 25 years, and used to do all the in-ring welcomes for WWW. WF, W.E and WCWCW shows when they were in town. I was asked to have a match against Jimmy Mouth of the South Hart in the early 2000s for WCW and really enjoyed all of, and really enjoyed all of the what it was a great opportunity.

All right, this is trailing off here. The match wasn't really good. The stroke, Joe there was 39 years old when he passed away of a stroke while The match went really good, and the hometown crowd, to my surprise, pop for it. I was wondering if Jimmy... Well, and that makes sense because, again, Jimmy Hart always did radio back in the Memphis days because he knew a lot of the DJs. He'd been in the music business.

He was peppy. He was a good radio guest. And he also did, as I have done and or have booked, you know, the gimmick matches with the manager and the DJ. to get local radio publicity. And Jimmy was great with that stuff. I was wondering if Jim had any good stories about local radio talent doing shows when he was involved.

One side note, after doing a WWE in-ring welcome once, Dean Malenko yelled at me because I was, quote, too damn big to be doing ring announcements. Good times. Well, I mean, you know, the radio DJs on and off, depending on the market,

have been involved and been great tools to use for promoting shows since the 50s. I mean, even before, probably radio came before television. And sometimes if you're in a new market or a market that's not doing well and you need to reach other people, that's when you might go for something like that. Or when we did it in OVW, it was because the radio stations themselves were actually clear channel radio was either sponsoring the events or buying the event outright in the case of the big shows at the gardens. And we would be able to not only have those guys that were on the air that were involved in the beef talking it up on their shifts on the air, but the other people on the station, the other DJs would be, oh, who do you think is going to win between so and so and so.

such and such. But I mean, that's, you know, something that's been done everywhere at one point or another. And I guess probably the most successful one that I ever remember as I've told the story a million times, but here in Louisville, Jerry Lawler and Coyote Calhoun, the wacky radio disc jockey. This was at a time where they were running the Louisville Gardens every week. and I would say the regular crowds were probably between three and four thousand people. For a regular show, bad weather or a really rotten cart, it might be a little less,

it might be a little more if it's really something good. And when they did that promotion that they did on the air for two or three weeks, and everybody in town knew Coyote was literally six feet tall and 130 pounds. He was the skinniest human being in the world. but he was a popular DJ and Lawler can talk anything up so they booked that match for the specific was the week

after Thanksgiving and they sold the fucking gardens out but that was a night of a bad ice storm in between Nashville and Louisville and none of the wrestlers including Lawler could get to the building in Louisville so they told all the people that

come back next week and bring your ticket stuff, it'll still be good. And they book the same card the next week, and they oversold. They turned people away, because in good weather, more people wanted to come. And it tore the fucking house down. Because normally, just a DJ alone might get you extra publicity, but you have to, that's for a big main event or something else that's going on on the show. that's why you want the extra publicity. This thing,

Coyote Calhoun and Jerry Lawler out drew Jerry Lawler and Goddamn any big name wrestling star that you can think of for like a two-year period, Jimmy Valiant, Joe LaDuke, fucking anybody because it just, it caught people's attention. Then the match was nothing.

they had a coyote brought his bohemian alligator holt which turned out to be a giant wrestler that had been training with verne ganya do you remember the name jan nelson oh yeah of course he never worked they just brought him in just to do this so that nobody would know who he was he never worked at a territory any other time but luller had a match with him with coyote in the corner and then when coyote got in he was he never worked in the territory any other time but luller had a match with choyd in the corner and then when coyote got did a couple things, and all our airplanes spend him and dumped him. But it overshadowed everything else and it just caught on. So that was the most successful radio DJ crossover,

I can think, because it itself sold out the building when the normal matches were doing 2,000 less. Did WWE do many of those when you first got there before WCW? WCW was.

WCW started. doing a lot of them, it seems like. I remember they were doing stuff I think with Danny Bonaducci at one point. They were doing stuff with Bubba the Love Spunge at one point. Oh, yeah. And see, that got too much and too far. And no, the WWF would have DJs around and have maybe figured in as a guest manager or you'd have a talking segment or whatever. And to be fair, most of the time, that's what you need to do anyway. But every once in a while, if you know a guy and you've got an idea, you can figure it, but you've got to be careful with what you allow them to do physically.

And Vince didn't want to get into that. He didn't have to. And everybody in WCW was marks for quasi-celebrities, so they'd let them just take the store. Jim, our next question sent to corny drive-thru at gmail.com from Cody G. in Nashville. who was the best-smelling wrestler you've ever been around? What the f... Well, um...

Sherry Martell, how's that? Our next question, Jim, sent to corny drive-thru at gmail.com was sent by John Williams, Pleasant Hill, Missouri. Check out the pizza place in Blue Springs. Yes, yes, and they're free. As a matter of fact, you get to be a partner in the business. No, you don't. The pizza place, Blue Springs, Missouri, he'll give you 20% of the joint.

He will not. That is one deal that's a step too far, but I'm sure he'd love to sell you some pizza. Let's go to this, Jim. When wrestling families are discussed, I noticed a young blood brother's, Jay, Mark, and Chris aren't mentioned often. How would you rank their careers against other wrestling families of the era? Well, then you have to, part of the reason may be, because it's not, it wasn't a marketed thing nationally that now the Hart family dynasty or the Von Erick, it's been over and over with the documentaries and kept in the public eyes. So those are families that, you know, get recognized more.

And the Fullers and Welch's, but there was so many of them for so long a period of time that they were talked about in wrestling. The young bloods were technically the Rameros. And they started with their father, Ricky Romero, who was the top baby face that, you know, wasn't a member of the funk, funk family in, you know, West Texas. for years and years. And I think part of it also is, to be honest, Jay was phenomenal, Jay Youngblood,

and the team with him and Steamboat was incredible as a baby-faced team, boy, if the midnight could have formed a year earlier and got to the Carolinas a year earlier, whatever, that would have been dynamite. But unfortunately, he had his issues and he passed away so young. And Mark and Chris, I mean, they were good young baby faces. And maybe if they'd had an opportunity in a different place at a different time,

they would have broken through. But while they were used and they had their successful moments, it wasn't like they were major stars in a wrestling business for any lengthy period of time, if at all, depending on your definition of major. Brian, I'm not trying to denigrate them, but it just, you know, their father was probably more over, more impactful in his territory in his time because of the importance he had to business in that part of the country, then they got to be except for Jay's run with, maybe with steamboat. Yeah, unfortunately, Jay, who was one of the top young stars in the business, very quickly within like a year and a half, left Mid-Atlantic, was in mid-South for a minute in 84. Yeah, he was there right as we were leaving. He came in.

And then he kind of bounced around a little bit and he started gaining weight very quickly. And then he died. I mean, it all happened pretty quickly. He died in 85, I think. Mark had a run in Mid-Atlantic, I want to say, in 84, where they were using them pretty well. I don't know why, I don't know what happened. You know, when I first was exposed to them, it was WCW, 1990, and then they were on global. Like, I'd see them in the empty Sportatorium.

So I don't even know really where they worked. Maybe some All-Japan, I'm not sure. Did you guys work with them in 1990? At all? I'm trying to think, boy, I'd have to go back and look through the book, see? That's just, you know, if so, not often. All right. Well, that's a sad end to the question, but, uh...

But I mean, that's the answer to the question. It just, it didn't all come together. Well, Jim, our next question sent to Cornyardithru at gmail.com is sent from Morgan in Beacon Falls, Connecticut. it, does Jim house train his dogs? Yeah, we are trying. We are trying. And obviously Harley had got to the point where she was completely zero maintenance.

If she was up here in the office laying at my feet while I was recording and she had to go, she'd get up while walk in my bathroom, go on her pad, come back, lay down the same place. Never know she was gone. And she obviously, as an adult, she liked going outside more, although occasionally she'd look over her shoulder at you, kind of accusingly, if you were staring at her while she was pooping. She felt self-conscious. These two Helians, they're good about going on a pad,

but they mistake the pads that they've been going on. they look confusingly like floor mats and area rugs. So it's still shit that we can pick up, replace, and or clean if we need to, but it's a work in progress. And they have their little puppy apartment with their specific place they're supposed to go in there. So if we pay attention to their signs, they do try to get in there and go in one place. So it's a little, it's a mixture of everything. And the pooping is the same.

except they're little poop factories they poop a lot more than they pee what are you using for treats uh right now because we've just had them a week we we're still feeding them the puppy kibble that the lady that we got them from that had the the puppy she didn't have the puppies herself she she had the dog that had the puppies they wouldn't be this cute if she had the puppies

herself because she wasn't an attractive lady. But nevertheless, they're still on the puppy food and we've gotten a little freeze-dried stuff that we're sprinkling over the top of it. They're just loving. And then for treats, they like carrots, the little baby carrots. And we found out at the vet, they like Cheerios, but we don't want to give them too much sugar. So we're starting to ease them into a nice diet where they,

They won't have health issues. And they like the turkey collagen sticks. Not raw hide. They can't digest it. All right. Raw hide. Jim, as we get ready to, oh, we get ready to begin to get ready to wrap things up.

We begin to begin to begin. Let's return to our list of the top wrestlers in their 40s for 1984. this would be part three, our final part, our final look at this list. Jim, let's refresh everyone with who is on our list so far. Jack Briscoe, 43, Antonio Anoki, 41, Bob Armstrong, 45. Black Jack Mulligan, 42, Ray Stevens, 49. Giant Baba 46, Harley Race, 41.

Ivan Kola, 42, Jimmy Valiant 42. Mill Mosquist, 42. Terry Funk 40 Wahoo McDaniel 46 Abdullah the butcher 43 Ernie Ladd 46

and finally the Iron Sheek 42 years old and of course as we've mentioned and you can go back and check the YouTube channel official Jim Cornett for the

best 20 wrestlers in their 20s the best 20 in their 30s all of them were Hall of Fame list where we couldn't we couldn't even pair it all down at first, that there were main event, money drawn, featured guys

all over the United States in their 20s and definitely in their 30s with multiple years of experience. And now, as we've seen going through the list of guys in their 40s, and that's just who made it, not the entire list. You see, these guys were already, if you'd have had the Hall of Fame induction

in 1984, all of these guys would have, qualified already. So just an amazing quantity of talent. If nothing else compared to today, not only comparing the ages of everybody and how guys in their 20s now are barely getting a break and then they were main event in the Superdome, but also the sheer number of all of these guys

were working at the same. time in the business in the United States alone. And try to come up with 20% of these number of names of top talent like this in today's business. You can't. So there's a few more on today's list. I'll follow you, Brian. Yes, we will finish today with the look at the top wrestlers in their 40s, but

picking up with an interesting one, wow, it's at this point that I realize I'm a older than Bill Watts was during the last stampede. Turning 45 in May, the Oklahoma stampeder, Cowboy Bill Watts. And he had been retired for like, what, two and a half years at that point in his own territory. Ed was only 45 years old when,

and I was looking at him like, oh my God, this guy that's so, so old is coming out of retirement to work with us. It's fucking great. He's 20 years younger than I am now. Fuck. Again, Bill Watts, depending on our parameters, because we've said, well, so and so on some of the other people,

so and so had a great career, but 84, they barely worked or they were about to retire. It was on the downhill slide. Watts is kind of the opposite same thing, if that's a phrase, in that he had already been a major wrestling star for 20 years. He main-evended Madison Square Garden against Bruno Samertino. He main-evended the Cow Palace in San Francisco against Ray Stevens. He had worked all over the country and for every major promoter and then had come back to his home territory and bought into Leroy McGurick's office,

had booked Atlanta, worked on top in Atlanta. Same thing with Florida, booked there, worked on top there. And then opened up Mid-South wrestling and took the part of McGurk's territory that didn't traditionally draw any money and started running a fucking Superdome. And established, even though because of its brief life, because it didn't really, Mid-South didn't start into what, 79 or was it 78? 78. He's the boss of one of the biggest territories in the business.

And even though he'd been retired from the ring for the previous couple of years, when he comes out of retirement in this year, 1984, he set the gate record for or attendance record or both for every town in his territory because he was wrestling in the main event. So how does he not be on the list except he's already passed it? He's retired and too big for a wrestler list. It's interesting. I mean, technically he's eligible.

And the one thing he did that year was the record-setting thing of all time for the territory. I just don't. It doesn't feel right to include him on the list. You know, I don't know. What do you think? Well, that's what I'm saying. is it it may be that he's just he's past it it's like he's he's in a high level of of a promoter at this point and will be for the next few years but he won't wrestle again after

this year except what two more brief times that didn't work because it was gone to the well too often so yeah 85 the stampede's alive in 85 ooh And the stampede got 86 in 86. Stampede's going to scare Korsica Kornchenko out of the business in 86. And then work with the freebirds. He might have to leave him off, but it's no shame in that respect. No, not at all. Jim turning 47 in March.

Mark Lewin. Again, legendary name that worked everywhere, not only in the country, but around the world was a good in-ring performer, drew money, wherever he appeared for the most part. But is this a case of, yeah, but, you know, he's about ready to retire and the best years are behind him? He would still be active for a few more years. Not that a lot of that period of time has looked upon fondly, you know, the dark days of Florida, the dark days of Dallas. much of it may be cavorting with Kevin Sullivan around the Pacific Rim for indie shows that we never knew happened.

It's an interesting one because he is an all-time legend. He was an all-time legend already at this point. At best for me, question mark. Yeah, and at that point, also he's 30 years in. He started as a teenager. Was Don, his brother, Don Lewin, was he older by just a year or two? didn't stay long in Ted, the younger brother. He was the artist.

He was the artist and didn't stay in the business long. But yeah, there you go. All right, Maniac Mark Lewinay, Hall of Famer, regardless. Jim, he wasn't very active in 84, but he did have some matches for the expanding WWE, turning 43 in January, Paterson. And once again, the only negative criteria for for him is that he was about to wind down his in-ring career to become

Vince Jr.'s second in command for years. He might not have known it right at this point. And there was an announcer period transitioning. He knew he was going to do something behind the scenes. But Paterson, since the mid-60s, had been recognized as one of the best in-ring workers in the business, He'd drawn huge money with Stevens in California, both as a team. Then when they switched Stevens and worked him against each other,

and then Patterson took over as the top guy. But he also, he worked for the AWA for Vern. He was on top in Georgia and Florida in multiple runs in the WWWF, working against the champion. and he's the only guy that got four title shots against, uh, fuck who was it, Pedro? Backland.

Backland, I'm sorry. He said, Pedro, yes. Um, so he's an all-time legend at that point, but as, like with Watts, he's about to get into management. What do you think? I don't think he would be on the list for 84,

even though he was still great in the ring when he ever, actually worked, but he didn't work. I don't even know if he had a TV match that year. I don't remember. Well, Jim also on the list? Also turning 43 in January. Polish power. Ivan Putzky.

They were born the same month and year, Paterson and Ivan Putzky. That's fucking... You can't find two people that looked any more dissimilar visually. Um... You know, I got to be honest, I never got Putzky. I got Igor more than I got Putzky.

Because at least when you saw the mighty Igor, it was always the same gimmick. There was some consistency there, plus he was first with it. Putsky, depending on what territory, he's either working the fucking Igor gimmick or he's a goddamn bodybuilder. And then what was it, Paul Bosch said, Paul Bosch in Houston,

got Putzky over with the Igor gimmick better than Igor was. And he drew all kinds of money with Putky. And he said, then he went to work for Vince and became a fucking bodybuilder. He said, they've ruined Ivan Putzky. But I never,

I didn't really get the interviews that I did see. I never got really the in-ring that I did see. And I would, I believe, or I can understand why the gimmick would have worked, but just Polish power standing there flexing his fucking bicep looking like he's Jack to the Gills like he's Lex Lugar's goddamn physician's delivery man I never got it didn't see it I won't argue with you turning 40 in October Jim

from the sheepherders Butch Miller The fact that any of the sheep herders were in their 30s in the 80s. It's just incredible. And Luke, bless him, I was working with Luke in Tennessee in 82, him and Jonathan Boyd.

And just from the scarred faces and the missing teeth and everything, you could have sold them, not that they were old men physically and body-wise, but you could have sold them as being in their 50s. And Butch was, you know, fit the same

classification there, but Butch and Luke were much, much nicer and easier to get along with than Jonathan Boy, I'll say that. As both the royal kangaroos and, you know, and or the sheep herders, and or whether it was Luke or Norman Frederick Charles or Butch, they were always used well in various places. They were good workers. do I see them on this list? Brian, do you see them on this list? I don't for 1984, no.

There you go. Well, here's someone you were around in 1984, turning 44 in December, the exotic Adrian Street. And see, that's another thing. When I managed Adrian in Memphis in 82, he was already 42 years old. But he had just come

this country so he was a 20-year plus veteran that was brand new. That could still be a thing in those days. I loved Adrian and Linda both to death. Wonderful people and what a fucking gimmick and what a talent. And Adrian was also an artist and Linda sewed most of their ring outfits. They even made their own fucking plates. Linda did pottery. They made their own fucking plates.

They were like they could have existed in the ninth century in a farmhouse somewhere in Wales. And Adrian's style was unique, especially if you didn't know anything about world of sports style or the British style, but his still was unique. But on a list that's including Terry Funk and Ray Stevens and the other names that we mentioned, I'm trying to talk myself into it,

but did Adrian reach that level as either in his work or his talk or his money-drawing capability? And the answer is no, especially in this country, when even though he had a nice run for a few years, he didn't start here until he was 42. So that worked against him. a good 84, worked with Bill Dundee, of course, the big angle where he beat Terry Taylor by kissing him. And Terry Taylor got rolled up, and then Terry Taylor came out the next week and kissed Miss Linda at ringside during an Adrian Street match.

And Adrian Street got out of the ring and started beating up Linda. Yes, how dare you? Why didn't mean to? And, you know, and boy, howdy, can you imagine? I said at the time the more entertaining television would have been showing video of Dundee convincing Bill Watts that his baby face mid-south TV champion was going to lose by being kissed by another man on Watts's television program.

It got almost as much heat with Watts as it got with the fans when they aired it. Well, Jim, we continue on here. The face of bland Midwestern wrestling, Bob Brown turning 46, and I'm not. October. Good. Got Bulldog Bob Brown, the original baked potato with arms and legs. I have never seen a main event guy with a less appealing physique, a less interesting personality, or a less believable overall demeanor from the territory days now. I mean, the doors have been opened here in the modern times but in the territory days oh my god it was a fucking rib

it was a fucking rib he was marty genetti's tag team partner in 1985 when we got booked in kansas city and what so he was the 38th that me he was almost 50 and it was he spent what 20 years there in Kansas City in the territory either working there stooging there or being in the office there but somehow or another

he hung the fuck on until the whole thing was dead and then he went and tried to help kill Canada by rustic by the winner that's right and we're Winnipeg and Vancouver too right he was in Stampede also

yeah good Lord we worked with him and worked alongside him a time or two, but he must have been a hell of a nice guy to be able to get people to do him favors, like let him wrestle for him. Maybe it was by gunpoint, who knows, but Jim, we move on with the list here, amazingly turning 40 in August,

Joe LaDuke. God, that means that when he was working with Lawler in 78 and 9th, Memphis and all those pictures that you've seen that I took of him, he was a 34-year-old man. That's crazy. That's crazy. Wow. He looked like a Marvel Comics super villain come to life.

And that's, I've said this before about a couple of people. But if I had the Joe Leduc as he existed as a physical special. between, say, 1973 and 1978, both in terms of, by that point in time, he would have been in the business long enough to know what he was doing, and he did, he worked in that time period on top in Florida, Georgia, two different territories in Tennessee, Canada, fucking everywhere that he appeared.

But if I had that guy, that, say 30 to 35 year old guy exactly as he existed in the attitude era with Austin and Rock and Undertaker and mankind and I could have just I could have managed him and not any of Vince's funny ha ha with the managers like we were going for heat in the Mid-South days Joe LaDuke could have been the biggest heel in wrestling. Can you imagine that era that age Joe LaDucke in the ring with Mick Foley? Or just eating Steve Austin's face off? Or getting up after the Undertaker tombstoneed him and shagget it off

between the fucking head full of scars and the, eyes and that massive scar down his chest and do the fucking test of strength with 10 guys from the audience, do the goddamn blood oath with the axe on live television where they can see he's really slicing himself. You could have drawn millions of dollars with a fucking physical specimen like that. and he did draw money through his whole career, but the finances were different in those days, and probably his biggest houses he ever drew were in Montreal.

He and his brother, along with the Vashans, they sold out the fucking forum. But even though he worked as a baby face in Florida and in Knoxville and some other places, the smiling lumberjack, as a fucking heel, he was the most unique thing I've ever seen. So I don't know if we can put him on this list or not, but he was always, to me, my favorite monster.

I agree with you about the greatness. I also agree with you. I would be reluctant to put him on a list for 84, I think. Well, especially because now this was, unfortunately, his last run in Memphis, he was he was 40 years old but age caught up to him he didn't just look older facially because of all the scars and the shaved head and the the way he looked but age caught up to him the bumps he could take big backdrops and big body slams when it was

called for and probably having the doing the deal where he had a concrete block broken over his head with a sledgehammer in a number of territories might not have done him any good. And by, what was it, 10 years later, 1994, he got, Randy Hales got him to Memphis for one Memphis memory show, and I booked him, and he didn't show up because he was having diabetes issues at that point and died just a couple of years later. So 84, his health was probably, or at least his injuries were catching up to him. And there was a grim, brief little run in the WWF where most people didn't even seem in what was it, 86, 87?

87. A headbanger? Yeah. And I'm sure they did that just because Paterson or somebody heard, oh, my God, Joe LaDuke. Once a job? Yes. And then they saw what they were getting instead of what they remember. It was a weird name during a period of time where headbanging was an actual thing taking off.

And, you know, it was a big thing on MTV. Yeah, because he had nothing to do with heavy metal. He was a headbanger. I'm sure that was like a Vince thing. You know, he just looked like he would bang your fucking head. But. I don't know. A few more names here on the list.

This next one, not a wrestler, but I put him on the list because I think he should at least be amongst them, amongst the other wrestlers in discussion. Turning 40 in November, Bobby the Brain Heenan. Well, I think we can skip over this fairly quickly and without wasting a lot of time, Brian, because if you don't put a checkmark next to Bobby Heenan's name, I'll never speak to you again. How about them? So you think he should be on the list? list is what you're saying. Yes. I think Bobby Heenan should be on the list of any top, anybody, and anything in wrestling. So just check him and get it over with.

Again, can't doubt the talent. Don't know how much he worked in the ring, but Bobby Heenan was a different type of manager. Jim, the next wrestler, turning 45 in 1984 in February, the missing link. I mean, Dewey Robertson wrestled for 20 years, didn't draw 15 cents in Chinese money. The missing link ran for what six or seven, and everybody still remembers what he looked like and some element of the gimmick.

Dewey Robertson was a really athletic, good, solid worker that could have good matches and had a great physique and never drew really any fucking buddy. And the missing link had goofy matches with his gimmick and drew a bunch of money. And he was just really starting to take off

on his WWF run at this point in time where he would only get bigger before he got smaller. But just because it's such a fucking gimmick, Does he belong on a list of the greats and near-grates? Or what do you think? I think at best he would be a question mark, and then I don't know if he would make it to the top of the question mark list.

He's a memorable gimmick, a memorable name, a memorable face. Had a very brief run in the WWF, I think the beginning of 85 managed by Bobby Heenan. Yes. And then he worked for, you know, Watts, and he worked for Fritz and had the incident with Gary Hart. and then he disappeared. Memorable, I wouldn't put him on the list. Well, there you go. Jim, 46 in August.

I'm going to give two names for this person, because I think he may have used both during the year. The assassin or The Flame. The Flame. Jody Hamilton was under both masks. Obviously, Jody is most remembered as the assassin along with Tom Rennesse. who they were the team of the assassins that everybody remembers and was noted from Georgia from years ago and that they were one of the top mass tag teams.

Jody, while Tom Rinesto unmasked during the Gunkel and Georgia wrestling war in 72 and became the Booker, and for whatever reason, Ronezsto would get Jobs' book. He booked for Nick Goulis in 78, 79, that era, or that era. And I think he was probably the Booker when the Gordian Hayes came in to work for Nick Goulis, the very first time that they left Mississippi and tried to become the freebirds. Nick and Renesto didn't want him to do it. They didn't get the deal. But he never, I never saw where Tom Rennesto.

was a great fucking booker. He booked Memphis in the 80s. And it was like, blah. And he was like George Scott. He used his two kids. One of them was an Indian gimmick, and the other one was a goddamn heel manager, I think. I don't know.

Tim Tall Tree. And who was the other one? Tim Tall Tree. Not, what was the other one's name? I know this, too. Oh, God damn it. Kurt Brown.

Nevertheless. Jody soldiered on as a wrestler, and this was, I guess, either his last full year or maybe 85 would have been the last full year. Jody opened up an independent promotion in Atlanta at this period of time when, or right after this period of time, when Crockett had gone out of business and, you know, there was no local promotion anymore. and then later on he'd have Deep South with the WWE Developmental Program. Jody was an effective worker and talker, and he had great psychology, but by this point, the weight had gotten to be an issue, and everybody could tell how old he was,

because even though he was wearing a mask and you couldn't see his face, they knew they've seen this guy for the past 30, fucking years. So how old has he got to be? So as a national name, no, and as a guy in 1984, I think, no. But what do I know? You know a lot, I'll agree with you. No disrespect, but for 84, Jim, the final name on our list here, had a very interesting 1984, turned 44 in March, began the year in Georgia, ended it in the WWF,

he was the national champion in the WWF, the spoiler. And of course, Don Jardine is who a lot of people in the business have referenced when they talked about Undertaker. Oh, he's the big guy that likes to walk the ropes. Jardine was similar. He wasn't as tall as Taker, but he was tall,

and he had a very methodical style that kind of was reminiscent, well, not reminiscent of, because his came first, but the Undertaker's original slow kind of plodding monster movie thing was somewhat reminiscent of Jardine and that he would have that straight-ahead style, and then suddenly he'd uncork something athletically that a big guy shouldn't be able to do.

Gary Hart always said that he protected the mask and Jardine protected the mask. Anytime they went to territory, they said the mask was not negotiable. If that's the problem, tell us now, because we're not dropping it. And then the promoter would say,

oh, no, whatever, the booker said, oh, it's okay. And then later on, when they got hot, they'd want him to drop it. But he said the only time that Jardine did drop it, he looked like such a nice, normal guy that it killed the fucking mystique. So when they kept the mask on him

and people couldn't see that he was a nice looking friendly guy that the physical appearance and the body language that he had made him intimidating. And he'd walk the ropes and do all the shit. Having said that, he worked on top as the spoiler for years at a variety of territories. But by this point in time, he was simply because Georgia was in trouble, Oli was in trouble. Jardine was a guy he could depend on, put the belt on him.

Suddenly Vince ends up with everything. And now he's a champion for Vince by virtue of being in the right place to right time and did Don Jardine work another full year in a wrestling business after this? I think he was around for a little bit longer. You know, again, he wasn't working with Gary Harder anymore. That was a big change. And he got lost in the shuffle into WWF pretty quickly.

For someone who was a recognized national name with a pretty cool gimmick, all things considered, just lost in the shuffle after coming in as a champion after the Georgia purchase. I think we could agree not on the list. Well, Jim, we have one to... But then all these people in some way are a qualified for or should be in a wrestling hall of fame.

We're just trying to figure out the best of the best that are on this list. For this year. And for that particular year, with some exceptions, like I don't care what year it was for Terry Funk or Bobby Heenan. whatever. Let me make a correction for that. Terry Funk did return for the 84 tag team tournament for all Japan, so I didn't realize I forgot that he returned.

I thought he didn't return until 85. Jim, we have 16 names on our list. Next time on the show, we're going to go through the question marks, get the rest of the list together, the other four names, and we will look at the wrestlers in their 50s for 1984. One last question here before we wrap things up. I guess Tony Kahn just did an interview with a podcast. Josh Godwin, it appears to be the interviewer.

Oh, okay. He's related to Phineas, and, well, I'm not sure he's related to Henry. I think he's just related to Phineas, because he was related to one of the pigs that Phineas used to have a fling with. Tony Kahn was asked to name the four new pillars of AEW, Remember, they had the pillars of MJF and Darby and Sammy and Jungle Boy. And then a bunch of those femurs were broken. Well, who are the current pillars?

Tony Khan is named Tecla, Kevin Knight, Kyle Fletcher, and Mercedes Monet. Oh, Christ. As the four pillars of AEW, or maybe the four people who have long-term contracts, I'm not sure. What are your thoughts on this current list? If I were them and that was the pillars that I was depending on to support me, I would put immediately a weight limit sign up on whatever this is and tell people to empty their pockets and don't bring anything heavy with them in their suitcase. Kyle, I can understand, although, as we've said before,

and I'm not going to belabor the point, he's going to get nothing but bad habits and injured over there from going through some piece of furniture. He needs good training to develop the athletic ability that he has into some type of psychology. And that's why the brawn breakers of the world are going to be megastars, and Kyle's going to still be over there playing with the guys on their trampoline. But Kyle, I can understand. Kevin Knight, I'd be willing to give that a shot because he's as good to me as Sammy Guavara ever was and he was a pillar.

Tecla, I don't know and I'm not even being sexist here if we should say that she ought to be one of the four things holding this whole company up and Mercedes fucking Monet you have to be out of your mind

and I don't care whether she's suddenly gotten over her yips and started having good, good, in quotation marks or great Japanese-style girls' matches that go for half an hour, if she was going to draw any money,

she'd have done it by now, and nobody gives a shit. So I'd say he's got one and a half pillars there. Well, there it is, the new pillars of AEW, according to Tony Kahn. Is it a good idea to put some, something like that out there, do you risk pissing off other young talent who think that they...

Well, it worked out so well the first time. Yeah, I guess so. I don't see why you wouldn't do it again. All right, well, before the pillars and the walls come crumbling down, the drive-thru is closed. Where's... There we go. Walls come tumbling down, and the walls come tumbling, tumbling, tumbling.

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