Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 459: Jim Reviews AEW All In: London

Episode Date: September 5, 2026

This week on the Drive Thru, Jim reviews AEW All In: London! Plus Jim reviews Ric Flair's recent tweets about his robes, Meltzer & Alvarez bickering about modern heels & faces, New Japan's G1 ...Climax final, WWE Raw, Duel Arena 1, and much more! Thanks to our episode sponsors: PRIZEPICKS:  Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/JCE and use code JCE and get $150 if you win your first $5 lineup! ULTRA:  Don’t sleep on @ultrapouches. New customers get 15% Off with code JCE at takeultra.com! #UltraPouches #ad SURFSHARK:  Go to https://surfshark.com/jce or use code JCE at checkout to get 4 extra months of Surfshark! Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: CornyDriveThru@gmail.com  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Merch! https://arcadianvanguard.com/ Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What in the world? I should have played the other one. Hello, I should have played the other one. You should have played the other one. Yeah. The old familiar one. The one with the box. A hello again, friends, and you are our friends.
Starting point is 00:00:45 We are yelling with our Vox. We will lower the volume. Welcome back to another edition of Jim Cornett's drive-thru. Right here on another fun day. We're promising fun today. It's been happening a lot lately. And the fun continues. I'm your host, the great Brian last.
Starting point is 00:01:02 A lot of things continuing. And here he is, the man who will continue the fun. I'm handing it off to this man, the star of the show, Mr. Jim Cornett. you know Brian everything that comes out of a box is not over uh see what I did there I thought for once I was looking forward to it
Starting point is 00:01:22 a couple of daggers through my ear drums I thought you'd wake me up I have done something that I never do I've never done I don't ever do this type of thing that I'm about to tell you that I've done I took a nap right now
Starting point is 00:01:39 in the middle of the daggum day. I feel all verclimped because I feel like I woke up and I had a short day and went to bed and woke up again. Oh shit, what the fuck's going on? I've skipped something. I've never been a nap person. I find it disorients me. I'm always busy.
Starting point is 00:01:58 I've got things to do. And if I ever did lay down and take a nap, then if I woke up, I'd be sleepy the rest of the day. And then I wouldn't be able to sleep well that night because I'd already slept during a day. But after I spoke to you this morning to verify the time of our recording session here, I was sitting on the couch and Buddy was already in my lap and I'd been reviewing Raw. And he turned around and just crawled up in my arms like a little baby. And Alfie was next to me.
Starting point is 00:02:36 And they had me nap trapped. And as well, I'll just, I'll just watch this TV for a minute. And I nodded off. And I woke up and every part of my body was numb. We were there without moving for like 45 minutes. Oh, shut up. And I'm still disoriented from that happening. But I'm sleep deprived.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Do you know anything about carbon monoxide, Brian last? I mean, I have a. layman's idea a bit. I'm not an expert. I didn't study it at a school at carbon monoxide college. But yeah, I know what it is. Well, there's a lot of great graduates. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:03:18 Are you breathing it in? What's going on over there? A lot of great graduates coming from carbon monoxide college, and they had a wonderful volleyball team. But it's poisonous, you know. It can kill you. It can kill people. And so because of the instances of carbon monoxide poisoning,
Starting point is 00:03:38 because it leaps up, leeches out of the ground in certain circumstances, you've got to be careful. They come up with a thing that they call a carbon monoxide detector, where if you can put it in your home, and if there is a high, dangerous level of carbon monoxide, well, it'll fucking alert you, right?
Starting point is 00:04:02 And so that's a thing that I possess, because I don't want to wake up one morning dead. But I did wake up one morning, when the goddamn thing reaches the end of its life, apparently, it emits five shrill, shrieking beeps every two fucking minutes. And it just happened to reach the end of its life at five o'clock now fucking morning. And all of us are, beep, beep, beep, beep, what the fuck? and then I'm like there's a smoke detector here at the castle that for whatever reason
Starting point is 00:04:47 it's the one you always got to change the battery and it'll start beeping on you but that didn't sound like it but I went to that first I got to get a chair take the goddamn battery out and then as soon as I got the battery in my hand beeped me then I got to walk around and see is the beep louder or is the beep fucking fainter and I'm a naked and it's pitch fucking black and I don't want to turn the lights on because then I'm going to be awake I had this happen
Starting point is 00:05:20 and finally four days in a row four days in a row yeah no it happened I guess all of them had batteries that aged out at the same time it happened in the basement one night in the middle of the night we faintly heard that we dealt with it the next day
Starting point is 00:05:36 the next day was coming from somewhere downstairs and we couldn't think in the middle of the night, like I'm standing under them looking up, like which one is the one making the noise? It's not this one. Took me a while. Had to get a ladder. And then the next day was upstairs in the hallway.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Luckily, I had the ladder out. And I dealt with that one in the middle of the night. And then it was our bedroom. And then the other problem is you can't get the batteries out. It's supposed to have like one of those black, you know, ribbons that you pull it. And the battery just comes right out. What kind of fancy Dan Hallmark gift card? shop smoke detectors
Starting point is 00:06:13 with ribbons hanging out of them. Not like long ribbons, but the little it's almost like a string but it's a ribbon that you pull to get the battery to pop out. Sounds like a rib to me. Well, they rib me. They didn't have to stand up on a fucking chair
Starting point is 00:06:28 to stick your finger in there and pry that son of a bitch. It's one of those nine bolts in mind where you can never tell which round part is supposed to go on which side of the thing. In the middle of the night. In the middle of the night.
Starting point is 00:06:44 In the middle of the night when you're trying to sleep, and it won't stop admitting that shrill beep. Then you take an axe to your ceiling with glee. Because it won't let you sleep. Every night it woke me up and I turn and I look, I'm like, how is she still sleeping? How is this not like, what, wait a minute, the alarm that is supposed to alert.
Starting point is 00:07:10 hurt you in case of a death-impending fucking disaster. Doesn't even wake your wife up? It's not the one you have where it's like a bunch of beeps in a row. It's the battery is out beep. So every, I don't know, two and a half minutes here. Yeah. That ought to be enough to fucking wake you up in the middle of a silent night, a holy night.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Or maybe she woke up and she realized it's not the actual carbon monotone. oxide alarm. It's the battery of the alarm, so she didn't give a shit. But I had to deal with it. Four nights at her own a letter in the middle of the night. And now I'm waiting for the other ones. How did you turn my fucking disaster into something that's all about you? It's my show.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Ah, you got me there. We're just out of control here today. You know, it's the fun. And later on, we're going to have Velveteen Dream on a press conference to talk about winning friends and influencing people. More on that later on in the program. That should be the new promotion.
Starting point is 00:08:15 You don't even need fights. Just press conferences where people yell at each other. Keep them away from each other. Every now and then someone could charge and he's back. Well, it turned out there was more violence at the press conference than there was in the fucking fights on this. Oh, boy, howdy, folks. If you haven't heard about this thing.
Starting point is 00:08:35 But I'm pissed at this promotion. It wasn't around 25 years ago before I got old. We could have had me in Rousseau. Well, we could have me in Rousseau 10 years ago and I would have still gone through with it. Now I'm afraid I'd hurt myself hurting him. Well, they have a lot of money behind them. They would have been able to pay you your appearance fee.
Starting point is 00:08:56 That's for sure. We're going to talk later on about you've got to do some kind of delving into how this guy got any fucking money. unless he'd be fucking poisoned his rich parents somehow that's about the only way I can see this guy having a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of and then he drank some of the poison himself but he lived
Starting point is 00:09:20 oh my god it looks like he was the victim one of those Russian KGB goddamn poison meals all right this is your program you know you can happen it's all yours If you want it, here it is. Come and get it. Who wrote that?
Starting point is 00:09:43 That was a Lennon and McCartney. Well, it's Paul McCartney, but yes. I think it may be technically under Lennon and McCartney. Well, they, you know, they had to do that contractually. It was a very bad finger that he gave to John on that one. But I will take over to say, that on my program a few days ago, I made an earth-shaking announcement, Brian,
Starting point is 00:10:10 and I thought I would follow that up on your program with shaking the earth up again, just to make sure that it doesn't get crunchy in the oven. And I revealed to the folks what that I am unleashing on the world for the big holiday sale at Cornets Collectibles at Jimcornett.com. We've been talking about the negative project,
Starting point is 00:10:33 and I don't mean that in a bad way, because positive, ah, good. In this case, negatives are good. Because we've been going through mine, me and Hotchka's Feather Bottom, and digitally remastering and et cetera, as we've been talking about on the program, and now you will be able to buy not one,
Starting point is 00:10:53 but two dose portfolios of some of my finest work at Jim Cornett.com going on sales Saturday, October 3rd. these are, as I said, professionally printed on high-quality photo paper, digitally remastered from the original negatives portfolio on the Memphis Wrestling Legends and great wrestling champions. And boy, howdy, this is some of my favorite stuff that I have ever done. And they are on one, but they are on one.
Starting point is 00:11:30 they will be one of a limited edition of 250 each. I don't expect of the goddamn numerous people around the world to all want to collect all these 8 by 10s, so we're keeping it to just the serious, classic wrestling fan, 250 of each, signed and numbered by myself. and Brian, I don't remember do you, what year was it
Starting point is 00:12:04 that Tommy Rich had a week as NWA champion in Georgia? That was 1980, was it not? 81. I think it's 81. Now you got me one. No, no. Wait, no. Would it be 80? It was 81.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Would it be 81? You might be able to look that up. But anyway, And you know what's a little forgotten, a little forgotten fucking fact about the big cage match at the Omni where Oli turned on Dusty? The NWA World Title match that night was Tommy Rich challenging Harley Race with Luthez as the referee.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And that got overlooked because of all of the chaos that happened in the cage and the turn, which was probably Dusty's plan. I would think that he would always want to make sure everything was overlooked except for him. But I have pictures of that that will be released at a later date. But Tommy Wildfire Rich is one of the Memphis legends that is in the Memphis Wrestling Legends portfolio, and he has the Southern Heavyweight title belt on. This was even before he became world champion.
Starting point is 00:13:21 He was 20, what, three years old in 1980. and what a white meat young baby face. And already possessing a numerous gig marks on his four, right between where he had the hair part in the middle, those delicious blonde bangs and all the girls love. He's already getting fucking gig marks there. He looked like Carlos Colon. And he was 23.
Starting point is 00:13:49 But that was the key to his popularity is get sympathy on that fucking kid and let him make a comeback. But anyway, you know, I will say, though, I understand why girls fell in love with young Tommy Rich when he first got on the Georgia TV. Let's just focus on Georgia, not even Tennessee. Oh, they loved him there too. I can understand why they grew with him
Starting point is 00:14:16 and they got to see him do a lot of things. But Tommy Rich with the fucking bangs ruins the idea that he won the NW. The fact that he won the NWA title of Bangs bothers me. Of all the looks he had, that was the worst one. At that point, he was starting to balloon up. I don't know. I wish he had not had the bangs when he beat Harley Race. You should have seen him.
Starting point is 00:14:41 I think the most popular he ever was in Memphis was when Lawler was constantly humiliating him and beating the shit out of him. And he burned him with a fireball. And he beat him bloody every week. And then they, they took a pair of scissors and hacked his fucking hair up, right? The beautiful blonde hair where he,
Starting point is 00:15:03 I think he had bangs in too and he was like 19 or whatever. And they hacked his hair up and he kept it. Jerry Jared had him keep it that way. And he went around the territory for two or three weeks looking like he'd had chemotherapy on half of his head and his long on the other side. Because that got him so much sympathy. I bet they, when he was 18, when he first,
Starting point is 00:15:27 started within six months they put him and tojo tojo helped train him in the ring in against teams like the von stigers and all these fucking heels that would just beat the shit out of Tommy rich and he had the fire and made the comeback and it was just the more you kicked the shit out of him the more over he got and his when he won a southern title from Lola the first time his comeback was done. Luller's punch hit the Thess Press, one, two, three. That was his entire comeback,
Starting point is 00:16:03 and the place exploded. But then he started ballooning up, as they say. But to the point, the bangs when he was, you know, first breaking in, it's different than in 1980, you know, 1981, where all of a sudden...
Starting point is 00:16:20 He has the longer hair. He's not the little kid anymore, and it just, it was a bad look. He looked like the member of Paul Revere and the radio. He made Harley Race look like the fashionable one. Harley Race had a perm in that match. That's right.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Poor Harley. We tried to stay up with the times with hairstyles every once in a while, and it didn't. We've already bleached it blonde again when he was like 50 or whatever. Nevertheless, back to the picture so we can continue on with the program. But the portfolio is Memphis, Jerry Lawler, Bill, Indeed, Jimmy, Vali, Lance Russell, Dutch Mantell, the fabulous ones, Jackie Fargo, Jared, Jared, the Rock and Roll Express, Tojo Yamamoto,
Starting point is 00:17:07 and Jimmy Hart, the happiest he's ever been. You were on the selection committee of trying to narrow it down to the absolute best stuff, and you said this was the happiest you've ever seen Jimmy Hart. Back when he was a spry young man and only his late 30s, He always looks so young. It looks like someone said like, hey, you're getting married today. Here's a private photographer to follow you around while you enjoy life. I don't know if he looked at happy.
Starting point is 00:17:40 He was getting married, but nevertheless. And we will talk more about all of these things as the weeks go on. And by the way, everybody can go to Jimcournett.com starting, I believe, Saturday, September. and you'll be able to see what's going on and all the information on this as well as there's one of a kind stuff discount prices on some of the things we've already had as closeouts, new things, blah, blah, blah, but the great wrestling champions, I will also mention Harley Race, Nick Bockwinkle, Dick the Bruiser, Billy Robinson, Ken Patera, but a couple of these. And by the way, there's 11, 8 by 10s in each portfolio along with the
Starting point is 00:18:26 certificate of authenticity. I think there's something nobody has ever seen, or you tell me was this in the wrestling news? Brian, this was the only place this would have ever been in print. Pictures of Paul Orndorf when he won the Southern title here in Memphis, the old Southern junior heavyweight belt that they were still using. I think this one that's in the wrestling champions portfolio, I don't believe it's been in print or seen before,
Starting point is 00:18:59 but this was Paul Orndorff. He'd been wrestling for three months, and he had just beaten Lawler for the Southern title. It was the first belt he ever had. And I took a picture of him 30 minutes later, so this is the first picture of Paul Lorndorf ever as a wrestling champion. You remember the one he's got his, he's got the belt on, he's got his blue fucking track pants on,
Starting point is 00:19:25 he's all jacked up even then and he's got his hands out like he's going to grab somebody you remember that if you haven't seen it nobody's seen I will have to go through the files and check to see what we have and what we could claim ownership on
Starting point is 00:19:40 but hey you could claim first printing of the Paul Ellaring photo looks so good it's so clear the belt looks great and Ellering is so young and happy looks like he's auditioning for Lords of Flatbush here in this photo that's another I went for
Starting point is 00:19:55 some deep cuts on this because nobody has seen in 45 years the pictures of precious Paul Ellering as a jacked-up bodybuilder wrestler and because they know him so well for being the manager of the road warriors but for god what four years actually not even Paul started he broke in he was trained by Ganya's camp and broke in up there in 78. He was a giant, massive bodybuilder at the time himself. His definition put hawk and
Starting point is 00:20:32 animal to shame. And his first territory out anywhere, Vern, because he had a relationship with Jerry Jarrett sent Paul to Memphis. And he came in the same time, Billy Robinson, in late 79,
Starting point is 00:20:49 uh, no, yes, late 79ish. And Paul was just kind of as a baby face, right? He hadn't got his personality yet. But by the time that he'd been here a while and they turned him heel and put him with Jimmy Hart and he got the precious Paul thing
Starting point is 00:21:13 and he's the subject of the promo. Remember when Jimmy Hart had Lawler's crown, Lawler broke his leg. Hart gave the crown to press. precious Paul, remember? So what do you do with a racehorse when he breaks his leg? You shoot him. So.
Starting point is 00:21:32 And Paul Ellering became the king, uh, showing that you could take people with charisma and put that crown on him. And it doesn't work for everyone. It didn't work for him. It didn't work for Jimmy Valiant a couple of years later in Mid-Atlantic. And then I guess Lawler claims that he really got mad at Jimmy Hart for that promo, right? Like when he came back, he really wanted to slug him. Well, yeah, well, here was the thing.
Starting point is 00:21:54 And by the way, Paul got it, didn't get, Paul wasn't meant to get over as the king. It was just the idea of they were getting heat on Lawler's departed corpse by giving away his crown, right? Later on with precious Paul, he came out and he didn't come out. You know what I mean? His personality came out and he was a promo. And then he started doing the superstar Billy Graham thing in Mid-South. And then he had the injuries. That's what happened.
Starting point is 00:22:21 But this picture of Paul is when he was the Southern champion. when he had first switched heel and joined Jimmy Hart. But the promo story was that Jerry Jared had told Lawler numerous times, don't be goddamn playing that fucking football games on Sundays with your friends. Because Calhoun was in on it and some of the other guys that were job guys that were friends of Lawlers around Memphis. And it was supposed to be flagged football, but it was they got rough, right? and Jared was telling Lawler, you know, you'll sink the fucking territory if you fuck yourself up basically playing football.
Starting point is 00:23:00 And what happened? Not only did Lawler fuck himself up playing football, Calhoun's the one that did it. He almost got fired too. And so Lawler did not know when he tuned in the following Saturday's program that Jimmy Hart was going to say, what do you do with a racehorse when he breaks his leg you shoot him and gave his that was jarritt said all right here's what we're going to fucking do and lawler found out about it by watching television having not been consulted and was not enamored of the whole thing at first and then you know but that's why that jimmy always said that night in louisville when he did the luller had come
Starting point is 00:23:47 back to be ringside and it makes me he wasn't wrestling you yet with the broken leg, but he could be handcuffed to Jimmy Hart. And I've got the picture of that when he slug Jimmy and broke his jaw. Jimmy's face looks like one of those power slap fucking people. And it can go either way. Many people thought he did it on purpose because that was his receipt for the fucking racehorse line. But it is very hard to throw up a right-handed punch and gauge.
Starting point is 00:24:22 your gauge your shot correctly when your left hand is handcuffed to somebody. So, you know, it could have gone either way. But nevertheless, precious Paul Ellering by Cracky and all of those folks in the wrestling champions portfolio. And like I said, all other kinds of cool stuff we're going to be talking more about as the weeks go on. But the sale begins Saturday, October 3rd. and you can see all the information starting Saturday, September 19th.
Starting point is 00:24:54 And everybody can have a Merry Christmas. Stuff these in your stockings. Well, don't do that because that may bend the photos. That would be a bad idea. That's true. And we have gone to such ridiculous links to find the folios that we can put these things in so that they've got the nice pages with the sleeves. You can either take the photos out if you'd like to,
Starting point is 00:25:18 them or you can leave them in the protective sleeves in the folio and set it on your coffee table. And when folks come over, you can say, let me show you my beautiful portrait of Dick the Brews. All right, at Jimcournett.com, Cornett's collectibles. Stay tuned. We have more about this in the weeks ahead, too. More details on some of these photos. Jim, we have a lot to get through today. We have AEW all in London. We have W.RWA. We have W.Rall. at least whatever you saw of it. We have the Velveteen Dreams boxing debut
Starting point is 00:25:53 and some other odds and ends here we'll get to, but before too much time goes on, I know you watched it, and people were asking for you to watch it. Let's talk about the finals of the G1 climax in New Japan. Oh, good Lord. I forgot
Starting point is 00:26:10 because we were going to do that last week or talk about that last week and other things arose and then we got hungry or something. I know a lot of people were were praising it to the heavens and I know there was some discourse about it. And here's the thing. I hate to be and I don't want to come off as negative because I'd never seen either one of these two guys. And I don't have their names written down in front of me.
Starting point is 00:26:40 So I'm not going to try to butcher that because I have nothing against these folks. but it was two guys that I had not seen before and they were apparently went out with the thought of trying to have how would you phrase it Brian as legitimate or as credible or as realistic a pro wrestling match I guess as you could have in today's environment
Starting point is 00:27:10 and they were applauded for that because it was a departure and it was different from what everybody, for the folks who haven't seen this, did I kind of summarize why everybody was talking about? It was to a lot of people a old school match where they... That's the word a lot of people used. I was searching for. And a lot of people focused on the idea that they worked a hold as opposed to did flips, went through tables, et cetera, et cetera, which unfortunately have become so commonplace that
Starting point is 00:27:45 you expect it. Yes, and it also, it was, the hold was a headlock. So they were being really basic that they were working through the, you know, and back to through the match. So again, I don't want to be negative. They did a wonderful job at what they were trying to do. And for the New Japan audience, it's more familiar with them. That's probably why they got more into it than I did.
Starting point is 00:28:12 But for me, it was still a little dry. and I guess this is the thing is that pro wrestling needs the legitimacy and the credibility of a contest, of a competition, but part of the reason why that it evolved to begin with and now people go, now a Cordette wants to evolve. I'm talking about from the pre-television era
Starting point is 00:28:40 was because people's attention spans did get a little shorter, but also the personalities were able to be brought out with television. And that's more than that had more effect on
Starting point is 00:28:59 the style of in-ring wrestling than the people just demanding that it change. It had to be sped up because of television and also the flashier people started getting more of the attention instead of the flashier wrestlers. So there was some element of evolution that had to go on.
Starting point is 00:29:24 But when I'm watching this, and this is what I try to explain with a lot of times with the AEW crowd, that thinks it because these guys have been partners in a faction in Japan for the past four years, that everybody watching in Des Moines, Iowa ought to know instantly they're all friends. I'm looking at two guys who I've never heard speak. I've never seen wrestle before. They kind of, to be honest, look like the same pudgy guys. You know, not pudgy, but the same kind of guys on the smaller side
Starting point is 00:30:06 without really a lot of fucking definition that fucking have weird haircuts that you see working for Tony Kahn that work for New Japan. I don't see a charismatic fucking, I know nobody looks like Antonio Inoki anymore, either physically or with the aura or the charisma or the genetics or what, he was like the rock of Japanese wrestlers.
Starting point is 00:30:33 He just, as a look, he had it. But I think back to the previous generation of guys there, like I do when I think of the previous generation of guys here, that looked like stars. Did either one of these guys strike you as a Fujinami or a Maida or a goddamn Kimura or any of the guys that Anoki had that looked like they could kick the shit out of you and run the marathon after doing it and had the intensity? Secondly, it was dry to me because it was,
Starting point is 00:31:15 was, yes, that was all the basics of wrestling, but one of the reasons for pro wrestling being a little out there is because there was a while, yeah, you got to fucking fire up and shoot the guy off and backdrop him and drop kick him, and he's got to take the big bump over the top rope. You open it up for the high spots. You have to have, that doesn't mean that you've got to fucking throw people off the goddamn lighting rigs through multiple tables that are on fire covered in burning glass
Starting point is 00:31:50 or whatever the fuck. We have, we've got to the point where people are so used to excess that they then remark when somebody strips it all the way down to the word fucking go and just kind of does that without trying to throw in all the shit that made pro wrestling. And the thing that everybody keeps overlooking is instead of, don't be acrobats doing fucking choreographed routines at 100 miles an hour to the point where people can't keep track of it,
Starting point is 00:32:36 or stunt men falling through furniture and fucking broken glass and flamethrowers and electrocuting each other. Don't do that. And don't go back to the fucking 15-minute fucking headlock that everybody claims and thinks territory wrestling was
Starting point is 00:32:57 when they weren't there to see that it was a whole lot goddamn faster-paced and more exciting on the whole than what we are getting fed today for many outlets. But in the middle of all of that, the personalities are what may be,
Starting point is 00:33:17 pro wrestling. Not just the promos and the gimmicks, but the way that those guys with those promos and gimmicks, then when performed their shit in the ring? It's all equally important, but you can't overdo any of it,
Starting point is 00:33:36 nor can you goddamn leave any of it out. Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth, Brian? I understand what you're saying, and by and large, I agree with you. you. I did enjoy the match. I thought it was a good match. The one guy's trunks were way too small. So there was some... That was a little off-putting. Yeah, there was some uncomfortable camera angles for no good reason. There wasn't anything in matter with it. They did a great basic, you know, wrestling, pro wrestling match with no hoo-ha.
Starting point is 00:34:10 I'm not saying there's anything a matter with it. But continue on. I'm sorry. I do think you have a point, though, and you know, it's one of the reasons why I'm not too familiar with these guys. and I don't watch that much New Japan right now other than, you know, a brief period where they really kind of got me back when Nakamura was still there, AJ Stiles was still there, I feel like New Japan is a perfect encapsulation
Starting point is 00:34:36 even though there's more outlaw shit of how badly America American wrestling affected Japanese wrestling. You have to take away the problems they had because of the legitimacy of pride, an MMA, which destroyed the faux legitimacy that Anoki and Baba had done so well getting out there, but still. And Inoki's constant out of the ring issues, not doing anything for their reputation.
Starting point is 00:35:07 But still, it doesn't, it doesn't really feel like traditional or class, it shouldn't. I mean, that's a long time ago, but it feels like it's been a... Americanized in a lot of ways. Everyone has their haircut, you know? I'm not saying everyone has to be, you know, in black trunks, like Kengo, Camaro, whatever it may be. But I don't know, it doesn't. And even you look ringside.
Starting point is 00:35:33 I mean, again, cultures change, people change. I mean, they used to be people that suits everywhere. I didn't see one person in a suit. I saw like the common fan sitting rigside. So it's like, okay, what exactly is going on over there? Fashion aside, here's a thing is that in the day when they were at their most popular, the, you know, all Japan and New Japan, and they were neck and neck, 70s and 80s, I liked Baba's American talent better than his Japanese talent,
Starting point is 00:36:09 and I liked Anoki's Japanese talent better than his American talent. And I'm not saying that Jumbo was not a bad worker, but he was like, I did, the personality, okay, but he was all because he got trained by the Funks, and he was always the one that got the big matches with Terry or whoever. So I'm going to watch him, but Anoki's guys looked like fucking badasses,
Starting point is 00:36:35 like they would beat the shit out of you, and they had that fire and emotion that you could get with and believe it wasn't some little fucking pasty-faced fucking shod. shrimp with a weird haircut firing up. It was goddamn Fujianami. He's going to hit somebody with the fucking rocket. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Baba's guys seem like they would be good to have a drink with. Yeah. And Anoki's guys seem like they'd do a thousand squats and they kick you in the legs. Yeah, they were some kind of monks that were going to take you on a forced march to Nepal. That's right. I'm like, don't fuck with these motherfuckers. And that's why I'm glad they had all the Germans and the Europeans and the British guys in there to fight them because fuck, I don't want them to.
Starting point is 00:37:17 kick the shit out of all the Americans, we'll have nothing left here. But it was just, that's the point is they've done the same thing. The guys are trying to pay homage to what they have seen and heard from the past, but they don't look the parts and there's so much
Starting point is 00:37:37 Americanization of the matches that it's either just crazy nonsense or it's stripped down bare bones, here we go. And again, I thought it was a good match. People were going gaga over it, like it was the greatest thing. I don't think it's the greatest thing. I thought it was really good.
Starting point is 00:37:56 You know, Strangle Lewis would be proud. Yeah. He was the last guy to use a headlock as a finishing maneuver. Is there already going to have? And I think George Gordienko would have stood up and applauded. He would have applauded. He would have gotten into a country eventually used it as a finishing goal. Well, he could get in Japan.
Starting point is 00:38:14 He just couldn't get in here. And, you know what, as a matter of fact, thank God, too, for the, at least Joseph McCarthy did one good thing. Could you imagine if Fez had dropped the NWA title to Gordi Enko? There would have been six promoters as members of the NWA at the end of the year. Well, so your final verdict on the G1 climax. Well, no, it was, it was, I understand why people were making over it. And I'm at the same time somewhat disheartened that it's come to this in this day and age.
Starting point is 00:38:50 How's that for a summation? All right. I think that's a pretty good summation. Thank you for watching that match. Again, a lot of listeners wanted to hear your thoughts. Jim, speaking to things that the listeners wanted to hear your thoughts about, let me pull this up. I regret to inform you that Rick Flair has been on Twitter again. Oh, God, almighty.
Starting point is 00:39:11 It's a new issue. I mean, if that makes you feel a little better, it's a new feud. It's a new issue. It's supposed to be like Reader's Digest. They have one a week. Well, here's the first of three. This one was from August 30th, 204 p.m. He attached a picture of himself in various robes.
Starting point is 00:39:31 There's a whole bunch of pictures here. It was a phenomenal weekend in Philadelphia. And thank you very much to Dynasty Sports PA. and Steve Solomon. Woo! Unfortunately, it has come to my attention that my robes are being sold
Starting point is 00:39:50 by people who don't own them or have a receipt from me. If they do, they are more than welcome to. If they don't, just like Tiffany Vandermark, who stole five of them, as of tomorrow,
Starting point is 00:40:08 my attorney will seek legal documentation. Excuse me, that was the next sentence. As of tomorrow, we'll seek legal. We'll seek legal. We'll seek legal documentation. And if you don't have it, you will be expecting a letter from my attorney in Boston. I can't imagine why anybody would... Wait a minute. Wait a minute. If you've already heard from his attorney, why would... then he then write you a letter. He's already talking to you. Well, it says that he will, Well, maybe it's not the one from Boston, but let me get back to the nature.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Oh, he's got to, well, that's Boston legal. I can't imagine why anybody would steal anything that I worked so hard for. Not cool. And I'm coming for you. Hate to be the bearer of bad news. But as I get older, I understand the importance of having some of my memorabilia. Or maybe the value of having some of his memorabilia. Well, you know, I always kind of like to have in mine when I've had it.
Starting point is 00:41:13 That's why I still have it. But, well, there's so many questions here. First of all, I get Tiffany, he was the previous relationship, right? Were they married? Wasn't that his wife? Well, I said a previous relationship. I haven't seen any legal papers. I've not, there's always some controversy.
Starting point is 00:41:38 I'm just saying they were together. Show me a marriage certificate. And if my lawyer agrees with it, you'll hear from him. Yeah. But what I'm saying, who, apparently, it doesn't sound like it was an official part of the divorce settlement.
Starting point is 00:41:57 It sounds like he's claiming she made off with five of these robes. But if somebody has bought unless somebody outright stole the robe from him at some location, then whether we know that he's sold things, he's given things away, who knows whether, I mean, I expect to see storage wars that open up and, who knows what trail of stuff he may have left around. How is he blaming people who are now selling these things, when they may not have been the one that particularly fucking appropriated them after all this time.
Starting point is 00:42:43 And how would you go about keeping track of all the robes he's had and all the things that he's sold? And did he write a bill of sale for everything he's ever sold? Because actually, that's nothing. All of my ringworn stuff has always come with a letter. So I would be able to audit that type of thing. But nevertheless, you see all these questions I got. Yeah, I do. And I would have a lot of those questions, too.
Starting point is 00:43:15 How many robes are robes that he sold previously? How many robes that he lost? I mean, there was the story of the black robe, I think, on a WWE show, right? Where they found it in a hotel room as a Kingsport? Like it was right outside. Yeah, right? It was a hotel over there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:32 So I don't know. The other thing I do wonder. because I remember the situation with the belt several years back are any of these robes, robes that he used as collateral for something? I don't know. But he's done that before with other things, so I do wonder. Well, there was, at least on one of the collateral situations,
Starting point is 00:43:57 it was money against, I remember seeing it, robes and or memorabilia that he had at the time. So, but whether that's been cleared up, I don't know. And Tiffany Vandemark is the former wife of Rick Flair from 2006 to 2009. I believe she was the way I asked. I need to go down to the Mecklenburg County courthouse to verify that. Just who knows what, what's going on these days.
Starting point is 00:44:30 He said he and Wendy were married until they weren't married, but then they separated, but they were getting back together, but only as friend. Let's say if you still got it. But Jim, the other thing to point in the note here is that tagged in this...
Starting point is 00:44:45 Early, is the aisle wheelchair accessible at this point? Tagged in this as Dynasty Sports PA and Steve Solomon, but also the big event N. Which is another wrestling convention, so... I was at one of those big events probably about 10 years ago now.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Shee, Jesus Christ, a fucking traffic. and it was very crowded in that wonderful hotel. I can't believe that that hotel, that must have been a front for some kind of mafia organization or something, that that hotel would let these 100 or so wild fucking animal wrestlers
Starting point is 00:45:21 and all these crazy wrestling fans pack every inch of that place had to violate some kind of fucking zoning up there. Is that the hotel opposite LaGuardia? Is that the one you're talking about? Yes, yes. You think this is a problem? And when Oresi did his convention in 93, and he had the sheik,
Starting point is 00:45:35 the sheik was like running around the lobby chasing people. People in the hotel had no idea what was going on. But Jim, Rick Flair, after that tweet, I'm sure you can imagine because of his history on Twitter, started hearing it from fans. Things like stay off Twitter, why are you doing this? Stop. Some support too.
Starting point is 00:45:57 So at 418 on August 30th, he tweeted this out. after reading your comments, I am very humored. So I have a new saying, My robes are worth more than your house. Rather than my shoes, it's now my robes. And FYI, it's a felony, and that shouldn't be taken lightly. And also, I'm a long ways away from OJ.
Starting point is 00:46:29 I haven't even started drinking yet What in the world? How did OJ come up? Where did OJ come into this? It was actually the line that got me was I haven't even started drinking yet. If you think I'm bad now, wait until three hours from now. So again, we don't know what kind of comments he's getting for people. Let me go back to this.
Starting point is 00:47:12 I'm a long ways away from O.J. I haven't even started drinking yet. So get ready for the next couple hours. Oh, Jesus. He did say. I've been fighting with a mess. American Airlines. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Just trying to get back to Tampa. On the way to the bar as I post this, you know where to find me. Come join me. And if you have one of my robes, bring it with you. I will buy all your drinks.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Whoa! He was going to sue him a while ago. Now he's buying all the drinks. Bring back the robe. You get free drinks. at the airport until his plane arrives. It's a great deal. Sounds like a great deal.
Starting point is 00:48:04 And what airport? He said where he was going? Where is he at? He didn't specify. He didn't say. He's in a feud with American Airlines. This is his newest feud. And he's just trying to get back to Tampa.
Starting point is 00:48:15 I guess he was in Philadelphia, he said. Maybe he's still there or I don't know. I guess he would still be in, oh my God. But I'm a long ways away from O.J. In the middle of this out of nowhere. What do you think? out of nowhere, but that, you know, that could be used as evidence in who knows what later on. And secondly, is it a good idea to say with all of his previous publicity and problems,
Starting point is 00:48:42 I haven't even started drinking yet. But now I'm on the way to the bar. Yeah, this is good. Just wait. Now we've got a pissed off Rick Flair who feels like people have stolen shit from him, imbibing at an airport bar that is under federal fucking law enforcement rule.
Starting point is 00:49:07 This can't end well, can it? Well, there's another tweet here, Jim, like it's a social media stairmaster. If you think I am bullshitting about my robes, Steve Solomon, who has more money than God, just offered me $200,000 for this gold robe.
Starting point is 00:49:29 There's a picture of the gold robe there. Whoever has it? Better send it to me ASAP. Whoever has it? I will stop it nothing to get it back. Whoever has it, I will personally make the trip to come get it with my lawyer.
Starting point is 00:49:48 And FYI, memorabilia theft, is a felony. So there we have it. Didn't it? didn't OJ did have he didn't have a lawyer with him when he went to get his stuff but it didn't turn out well either and say that's an old expression of flares
Starting point is 00:50:08 he's got more money than God but it again you can't threaten someone with a blanket with a felony when you don't if you don't even know where it is you don't know how that person came into possession of and they could have been the victim of somebody who ended up with it through nefarious means
Starting point is 00:50:33 and then sold it at a fucking convention and then what do you get? Granny from fucking Pittsburgh buys it and suddenly the feds are knocking on her door and they're going to cuff her? No, they might abscond with the robe or whatever but that's only again if there would be some type of
Starting point is 00:50:54 necessity of going to court and proving the providence and lineage and all this shit before anybody would be penalized, wouldn't there? I mean, there's a lot going on. If you can point to a police report where you file, you know, yes, like when the belts have been stolen in the past, it would have stolen out of Bruno's car, the WWWF belt after a garden show one night,
Starting point is 00:51:21 or the AWA belt. You file a police report, then you have at least some beginning point to want to file charges against somebody when you find out who's got it. And you know, the OJ thing is, you know, I guess you're probably right, it's probably about the memorabilia,
Starting point is 00:51:41 but you can't discount the fact that he just brought up his ex-wife in the middle of it. So you have two different ends of OJ, two different crimes that OJ committed. What? In the same email chain here, or Twitter chain.
Starting point is 00:51:54 I should say. The O.J. Simpson, pick your poison challenge. Does he go for his wife, or does he go for his memorabilia? What do you think Steve Solomon thinks about all this, whoever that may be? He's got more money than God.
Starting point is 00:52:09 He just offered me $200,000 for this. We finally got to the, you know, he cut to the chase at the end. I got offered 200 grand for this robe. Where is this robe? You think he was sitting in Philadelphia with whoever the Steve Solomon is, and Steve Solomon said,
Starting point is 00:52:23 I'd give you $200 grand if you had that robe. Oh, son of a bitch. Now he's trying to find it. Here we go. Yeah, again, we've talked about it in the past with some of Rick's things, and this is a whole different angle, because this is him in his own unique way, kind of putting it out there to the public to help him, again, in a very unique way. Is this the proper way to go about finding this or getting whoever has it to take any of this seriously?
Starting point is 00:52:51 I can't help but think there must be a better plan. I haven't really sit and thought of it. I think if you've still got stuff that you can sell and or that you want to sell and that you can make money on and certainly I do that from time to time, that's great. I think also if your shit was so, stolen in a particular place that you know you know somebody took this and where and how and you've tried to go to the cops and some you end up finding a person with this type of stuff
Starting point is 00:53:35 at the very least they need to confiscate it, get you your shit back and inquire with these people as to whether they're the ones that stole it. But if shit's just out there because it's moves or it's family members, you know, taking things out of the castle or whatever the case. I think that's one of those things that when somebody's as successful as Flair is, he either ought to just say, well, shucks, that's one of the things I wish hadn't happened or find some way to, if you get 200 grand for a fucking rogue, offer somebody 25 grand as a starting point if they can come up with that some bitch.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Yeah, why put that out there? I'll put you under, I'll put you under the jail. Oh, I'm going to raise my hand or I'm going to give you 25 grand. Shit, I'm going to stay away from him. See, that's, and then you've made 175 grand and you've, I think he's scaring anybody off that, that also might believe that he has lawyers in Boston or Tampa or anywhere else that are going to do these things.
Starting point is 00:54:46 This isn't the first time. Why does he stress the in Boston, part. Well, I don't know because I, you know, I knew his lawyers 30 years ago or 35 years ago or whatever. They were all in Atlanta and Charlotte, but he's moved up and on in the world. I see something here. Bob Trowbridge, kiss my ass.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Yes. Well, this is me. Well, just don't tell Dennis Guthrie what's going on for heaven saying. He'd be ashamed of all of his protegees at this. I haven't even started drinking yet. But Jim, that's the Rick Flair Twitter update. And of course, Rick Flair right now, hoping for some prizes. Some prizes that just so happens were his.
Starting point is 00:55:36 But he's hoping prizes end up right in his lap. It could be the black robe, the red robe, the blue robe, the green robe, the white robe. But he's also looking especially for that gold robe. I don't know how this all gets back together, but prize picks, Jim. they are there for other picks for prizes. It's more or less, more or less six robes, right? You can pick two to six players on prize picks and then pick more or less on their projected stats
Starting point is 00:56:07 like the passing yards and the rushing yards and the fantasy score and all that type of stuff. So you ought to be able to pick two to six robes and how many is he going to get back by threatening people with public beheading? See, that's the kind of thing. You know, just download the Price Picks app right now, folks. Not only are they an official daily fantasy partner of the NBA,
Starting point is 00:56:30 not only are they all over all the sports from NBA to NFL, MLB, women's basketball, FIFA. They do all that stuff all year round. If there's sports going on, they do it, but also they could be on top of, more or less, of whether Rick Flair reigns in his merchandise or not, or whether he tracks down that elusive gold rub. Just go to prize picks, download the app, and click on Rick Flair's latest tweet
Starting point is 00:57:00 and pick more or less on whether or not more or less a thousand people are going to tell him to put his phone down. Of course, all kidding aside, they have other legitimate picks to make on prize picks that are not centered around Rick Flair in his robe. But they wouldn't be that much fun. Well, I guess if you like the football
Starting point is 00:57:18 and the baseball and the basketball and the FIFA, And all of those things, I guess it would be that fun. But here's what makes it more fun, Brian. New users. New users. If you are out there, I'm punching my hand with my fist, so I'm making this comment. New users, if you were out there, I'm talking to you right now. I'm laying it on the line to you right now.
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Starting point is 00:58:15 You win your first $5 lineup, you get $150 in lineups. And I'll tell you what, whether it's $5 or $150, it's money in today's environment. And now prize picks is available nationwide, all 50 states. Hawaii's still with us, right? You don't hear much about them anymore. No, we are still with you. Well, there you go. And I know that Washington states trying to get away as quickly as possible.
Starting point is 00:58:47 But nevertheless, they're nationwide right now. So what are you waiting for? Lock in for the kickoff or the tip off or the blast off? What do they do in baseball, Brian? And what is the line of demarcation there? It's not a tip off or a kickoff. They bat off, pitch off? The first pitch.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Well, there's got to be an off in there or something. Something's got to be off about it. No, there's nothing off. It's on. It's the first pitch. And now the game is on. Well, and pretty soon the game will be over. And so will your chances.
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Starting point is 00:59:47 Well, you wouldn't be running the game. you let somebody else take the financial risk of actually running the game and you just you just sit back and try to pick and win right once again the promo code j c e for prize picks yes pick more or less sour notes that brian last is going to hit in the course of an average television or a podcast program well this television show is going to take a break that wasn't very nice. We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen, after this short commercial timeout. We are back. This chair is squeaking. We're back. Oh, boy. Jim, you sound excited to be here today.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Well, I know, just your chair squeaking. It's always some issue. A poor workman blames his tools, as Mama Cornett used to say. Well, Jim, I don't know how to make a transition from that to anything else, but we will just do it. Talk about poor workman. Well, what we're talking about is AEW, their big. There you go. Of the year, one of their biggest events of all time, we could say, all in 2026, London, England, Wembley Stadium, a big night, a big main event. Of course, people want to know what you thought of it. I don't know how much of the pre-show you saw, but it was a whole lot of show.
Starting point is 01:01:17 I didn't see any of the pre-show. I was lucky I saw the show, which I will talk about first, instead of going into excruciating detail on a variety of the things they did on the show. I told it's been a year now that my local cable spectrum demolished or abolished their pay-per-view channels. You can't order a pay-per-view
Starting point is 01:01:38 on spectrum here in the Louisville area. I guess you remember me talking about this. That's why I've been getting it on prime video, right? Because it's been like a year. And on the television guide, the pay-per-view channel is just next event coming soon for a
Starting point is 01:01:54 fucking year, right? So, I go to Prime Video like I always do. And I search for AEW special events like I always do. It says AW all in London. And it's confusing also because they've got the buy-in which who, unless you already watch this shit, would know what that is to begin with. Pre-show might possibly communicate something.
Starting point is 01:02:24 but I click on AEW all in London, boom, bought that son of a bitch. So I go back later on because it's an afternoon program. I figure I'll wait until about 2.30 where I can zip through some things. And I'll start this episode. I go to the goddamn prime video and I click on the AEW, you bought this? Yeah, okay, boom. and it says events going to start in a couple of fucking minutes or whatever
Starting point is 01:03:00 and then they showed me commercials for like 18 minutes and I don't know whether this was because I'm going in late anyway. I didn't know whether this because it's late or they just popped in and I don't know what the fuck. But then when the show starts suddenly, boom, there's the ring, there's the stadium,
Starting point is 01:03:25 15 people in the ring and Brian the commentary is in fucking Spanish oh my god and I'm like what the fuck now there's 15 people fighting in the ring it's a long shot I can barely tell who anybody is anyway because half these motherfuckers I dare you on the hard camera shot to tell me
Starting point is 01:03:46 Doyle from Davis and they're speaking Spanish to me and I'm what the fuck I'm trying to is there a way to change I don't know how to change the language. I don't know if that's a thing you can do. And I'm trying to go back to the home thing. And when I ordered it, the description was in English. And all the commercials they played me were in fucking English.
Starting point is 01:04:15 And now I'm watching the puppies while Stace is taking a nap. I don't want to go up the office and try to get on the internet and figure out if they're broadcasting his thing to every. everybody in Spanish. I mean, what the fuck? And I can't get anything else on when I go back to the home page on the prime, it takes, so,
Starting point is 01:04:35 so I'm watching it in fucking Spanish. Not that there's anything wrong with Spanish as relates to any other language in the world, except I don't fucking speak it. So it's hard enough to understand what's going on on these shows to begin with, just when they're speaking English to you in A-E-W. But nevertheless, this was apparently the buy-in, or not the buy-in, but the continuation of the buy-in match where it was however many teams of three people were all fighting to see who was going to be the six-man tag team champions.
Starting point is 01:05:22 And I didn't even write down who's, Brian, do you want to go to the internet? Does anybody care who was in this thus far? It was like there was Adam Page, Swerve Strickland, and a bunch of guys from the mid-card. Well, tell you what, why don't we quickly just run down what you missed on the pre-show
Starting point is 01:05:44 because that was technically the end of the pre-show. Oh, Christ. Because of the introductions. Well, I should have known that when they kept saying over a pre-show, pre-show. Jim, Leo Rush and the Rosse and the Rosk defeated the ops. What happened to Felix Cavalry?
Starting point is 01:06:02 Well, they defeated the ops of Hook, Shabbata, Bowens, and Action Andretti. That's the ops now? And nine minutes and ten seconds. Wait a minute. What is it? That's opposites from all the ops they used to have. Were any of those operators ops before our Shabbata's there? Yeah, well.
Starting point is 01:06:21 It was kind of like a... They need a brain. ...in training. Harley Cameron and Chris Statland. defeated the Sisters of Sin Julia Harton's Sky Blue 9 minutes 55 seconds Here's one you can file under
Starting point is 01:06:37 Oh that's where they are Boom and Doom Big Boom A.J. And QT. Marshall And the Hurt Syndicate. What? Bobby Lashley and Shelton Benjamin with Big Justice
Starting point is 01:06:53 defeated Shane Taylor Promotions of Shane Taylor, Lee Moriarty, not Charlie, Carly Bravo, and Captain Sean Dean with Christian XO and Trish Adora.
Starting point is 01:07:08 11 minutes and 25 seconds. No, that's why I wanted to read you the results, it is another match too, but I hadn't even thought about where's the heart syndicate, and here they are on the pre-show of Boom and Doom.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Teaming up with a internet fucking what would you call him person and being managed by his fat son
Starting point is 01:07:34 well he's a kid let's leave him alone well he's in a kid at Wimbley Stadium people have knocked Michael Jackson's fucking singing or Donnie Osmond too if they're gonna goddamn do it
Starting point is 01:07:49 he's fat he's a fat child Jesus Christ all right All right, I pack off, and I'll get you to stop yelling about it. All right. God, damn.
Starting point is 01:07:59 But the point is you've got Bobby Lashley and Shelton Benjamin. You've got him on the pre-show being managed by a fat child and teaming with his fat father and a fucking wrestling trainer. And you flew this internet phenomenon who talks about cookies from Costco or whatever his fucking gimmick is.
Starting point is 01:08:22 You flew him to England? You flew him to fun. Do they have Costco in England? Do they have cookies in England? They had biscuits. What is this fucking make a wish? And by the way, the opening match on the pre-show was an eight-man tag match, then a female tag match.
Starting point is 01:08:43 And now this is another eight-man tag match. There's a lot of people for the pre-show. At $50,000 in trance, it was unnecessary for this fucking giant vanity project. Let's let everybody play. Persephone defeated Maya World to win the AEWTBS Championship 11 minutes, 50 seconds.
Starting point is 01:09:07 On the pre-show. And of course, helping her, unmasking after helping her, the returning Dr. Britt Baker DMD. On the pre-show? Of course, to get you hyped up for the pay-per-view. Here's the return of Britt Baker on the pre-show. No, you know what that was?
Starting point is 01:09:25 that was Britt Baker said fuck I don't want to miss being a Wembley stuff was she in any of the other Wembley stadiums I think so I think so yes she hasn't been on AWTV
Starting point is 01:09:40 I want to say and it has to be two years because this this can't have been planned far ahead of time or they would have done something more with it if she was going to come back and stay or did she just I don't want to miss this Oh, sure. Come up. We're flying the Costco guy and his obese child. Oh, come on now.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Well, maybe because she's so skinny, maybe they got a half price rate for her, even though they got charged double for the kid. I think there's been a softening in the Cold War between Tony Khan and Britt Baker. I think there's been a softening in the fucking membranes between Tony Khan's ears. But she's now with Persephone, so that is our new combination. What do you think the perception of that will be? Jim, we now go to the Trio's Championship match, which is where you began. Here are the participants. Wow, this match went 39 minutes.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Holy shit. Jesus H. Christ! The dogs of David Finley, Clark Connors, and Gabe Kidd. The demand of Rickashay, Bishop Kahn, and Toa Leona. The death riders of Claudio Castignoli, Pock, and Wheeler Yuda. The conglomeration of Orange Cassidy, Kyle O'Reilly, and Roderick Strong.
Starting point is 01:11:03 The Bang Bang Gang, comprised of Jay White, Austin Gun, and Colton Gun. Hangman Adam Page and Brodito, Bandito and Brody King, who were the champions coming into the match, and I will let you reveal the final team. well and that's about where they started the actual program so maybe the feed was dicking around until they goddamn got to the point where they started the actual program i don't know
Starting point is 01:11:34 but swerve and nana came out and they stopped and then they played some weird music and then here came the new day only it ain't the new day it's the new level the new level is it's they still they had to be new something what about if they just came out naked and said here they are they're nude
Starting point is 01:12:04 the new level and I do what are their names now because again I'm listening to fucking Spanish Coffey is still Coffey and Xavier Woods goes back to being Austin Creed. Son of a gun. Well, there you go. So I thought, this is what obviously the big rumor was and they teased it.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Not only, and I'm not saying that if they had been advertised, it would have been a ticket seller maybe, but not thousands of tickets or whatever. But how could they debut? these guys in the most insanely worst way, whether they win or not, to make, when they got in the ring, it was a mess because there was already 15 guys in the ring,
Starting point is 01:13:03 and they got a flurry where they had set up, where everybody fed them. And then it went back to be in battle royal shit with kicking and stomping and guys doing moves and hopefully trying not to land on anybody behind them. and then it just, it was flat-footed plotting shit. And you had, again, you had Adam Page, you had swerve, you had the new, new day,
Starting point is 01:13:30 and most of the rest of the fucking guys in the match, the ones that hadn't been eliminated by that point, were Drek. Pockets was still involved. But what I'm saying is, I know they wanted to make a Tony thinks in his mind making a big splash is winning
Starting point is 01:13:51 these FACTA fucking six man belts where they're not even the same the only set of six man tag team champions in the promotional umbrella around Tony Khan enterprises. They got Ring of Otter six man champions too. And maybe he's
Starting point is 01:14:11 there's nothing wrong with swerve, introducing them. Although one tends to wonder in both companies, why, why is it always the black guy that introduces more black guys? Royce Keys or, you see what I'm saying here, Brian? Is it unseemly at best? But the big point is, these guys were big stars for a long period of time, whether I liked them or not.
Starting point is 01:14:43 with the pancakes and the unicorns and the horse shit. They were big stars for the biggest company in the world, and you bring them in in a 18-man, multiple-man cluster fuck, unadvertised, and they're in the ring to do a couple of spots, and then they get to win the six-man belts that nobody gives a shit about. There isn't a better way to insinuate them into your friends, fucking programming.
Starting point is 01:15:18 But again, I'm criticizing this, and that's what I'm going to do. But for the people who think that AEW is somehow good wrestling and or good booking, this was goddamn just, well, you could just jack off to this for a fucking year this show. Whole thing top to bottom. But for someone who has actually done this and or worked for. companies who do this and are looking at the goddamn indulgence of it.
Starting point is 01:15:53 The fucking the pyro cost as much as the first WrestleMania. The fucking Wembley Stadium, the goddamn hundred guys on the card, the 20 guys in one match, the plane tickets, they're
Starting point is 01:16:08 keeping them in fucking the UK for days, the room and board. the indulgence of everybody has to be involved in this because they're all our friends, no matter what the cost, and the excess of everybody getting to do everything that they have fun doing over and over and getting paid a bunch of money by this fucking guy that has unlimited funds. if I had Tony Kahn's money,
Starting point is 01:16:47 I could sell out Wembley Stadium. I'd just hire the fucking Rolling Stones. But he wants to do wrestling. Where was I going with this? We're talking about the trios tag match, a big trios title changed, a debut of the new level with Swerve, who I think is now a baby face again.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Well, apparently, that's another thing. I can't decide whether he wants to burn somebody's house down or build him one. so right because nana was just you know dancing in the happy way again he wasn't at all angry you know what that's not ought to use that is his music to come out that fucking happy song i can't hum it now but it's happy it makes you happy let's get back to the trios match that made a lot of people happy well it ended up with the the new new day and swerve against claudio pack and the bald guy in one of the
Starting point is 01:17:49 the bald guys. Is he, what is his name? Gabe Kidd. There you go. Well, they beat the new day like mules in this part of it. Just beat the shit out of them. Kofi made a comeback and then Swerve eliminated
Starting point is 01:18:05 the bald guy, Gabe Kidd. And then they double clothesline, Claudio and pack out and they won. And I wrote huge baby faces, thought Swerve was a heel. But, you know, again, just throwing everybody out there,
Starting point is 01:18:24 this should have been a major instance. And then they had, wasn't this where they had everybody walk out and stand and stare at each other? No, no, that was after the tag match. That's after the tag, yeah, yeah. Well, they had enough people standing and staring. But so New Day, unadvertised,
Starting point is 01:18:47 in the overrun of a pre-show match, They win middle card belts and don't get to do their shit with the focus on them. I don't, okay, there we go. They said in the press conference afterwards that the good thing about AEW is being a trios champion doesn't stop you from being able to challenge for other titles. So this doesn't mean they can't go for the tag titles or swerve can't go for the world title. Well, of course, because there's so many fucking pretty soon, Everybody will have to have more than one belt because there won't be enough wrestlers
Starting point is 01:19:23 to hold all Tony's belts. Well, the brawling broads took on Megan, brain and Lena Cross. What now? League of Cross? No, it was the Bowling Cross. The Bowling Birds. No, you don't call them that. That's derogatory slang in Britain for women.
Starting point is 01:19:48 You shouldn't be misogynistic, especially if you want them to give you a massage. That's why you can't be genistic. You just call them broads. Well, I thought that's what they were. I mean, yeah, who's the last person to use that in a broadcast? Frank Sinatra. He was going to say, how many years ago?
Starting point is 01:20:05 He's a big fucking star. Look at that broad. If Sinatra had been on this show, Wembley would have been sold out. So on fast forward, this seemed to go a while. And the brawling, broadie birds won with the Heart Foundation finish, both of them covered the girl like the old midget spot and the referee counted it. What did I miss on the fine points of things as we move along? Not much.
Starting point is 01:20:36 It was kind of buck style, tornado tag, no rules, no one pushed out of the ring, but it's not no DQ. You just never really understand what triggers the disqualification or the referee doing anything about anything. But they got the big moment, which was the British tag team winning the world tag titles, in Wembley Stadium and people seem pretty happy for them. Well, and good for them. Good, good for them, because everybody needs to be happy.
Starting point is 01:21:06 And good for the fans that are happy about the wrestlers being happy. And I mean, again, folks, we'll talk about a couple of the matches, but if you seriously want any kind of recap of what actually went on, go read it on everybody's website. As only here can you get the dissertation and breakdown of a, everything that they did wrong and or, I mean, we can't at this point take any of this seriously. The Continental Championship Tournament Final was held with John Moxley, who was the Continental
Starting point is 01:21:42 Champion. They're going to have to fucking go through the whole process again this year and defend it against Nigel McGuinness. I know Nigel. Nigel worked for us in Ring of a World. honor, not only as a commentator, but a wrestler in the early days, but I think Nigel's great. I'm sorry that his career got cut short with the variety of issues he had medically that, you know, he had problems with.
Starting point is 01:22:14 And also, he's coming in with an alleged broken ankle. So they worked this tournament so that Nigel, who's British, who would be able to work in Wembley Stadium in a tournament final with this fucking guy who beats everybody. Edward, you can't get rid of Moxley no matter what you do. He's like fungus on a shower curtain or a persistent case of venereal disease. So now he's one of the ex-world champions and one of the top guys is going to go in and have a goddamn match for about 20 minutes with a part-time wrestler who's been mostly an announcer for the past 15 years with a broken ankle.
Starting point is 01:22:59 Badass. Who could stop me now? He ain't going to stop me now. So I fast forwarded for a little while and randomly stopped to see where they were at. And I swear to God, I randomly landed on Moxley doing the 10 punches in the corner. And by the way, he's a goddamn,
Starting point is 01:23:21 he's the heel doing as to the baby face, but he was doing the 10 punches in the corner and was so clearly not hitting Nigel at all that they had to cut the camera shot to that wide shot of where they had with the lighting rig and the big screen over the ring. And just this obnoxious fake fuck, Jesus, just to placate his tough guy fantasies
Starting point is 01:23:48 and because Tony Kahn is a mark for him, this gibbering, dribbling fool that thinks that Nick Gage should have been Secretary of fucking State instead of Kissinger or something. I'm sorry, but I just sometimes, my personal opinions eke out. I was thinking Commerce Secretary, but I'll go with your pick.
Starting point is 01:24:12 So can you explain to me what happened? Finally, Nigel hit Moxley with a big clothesline and got a two count. And then Moxley rolled over and got the choke on him and held him forever. And then suddenly let go of his grip and started selling, leaning backwards, grimacing like the invisible man was pulling him off without Nigel moving or doing anything. And he completely rolled off Nigel by himself and then Nigel just got him in an arm lock.
Starting point is 01:24:47 What happened there? Were you even paying that close attention? I can't explain what happened there. I was paying attention. I don't know. I, it was like, again, the invisible man ran in from garbage wrestling, where Moxley's next destination after his contract runs out here. And then he got the arm block and Moxley teased tapping,
Starting point is 01:25:12 even though obviously and unfortunately clearly, the arm block was a little loose. And then he just rolled out of that and got the ankle lock on the bad ankle. I'm sorry, go ahead. If I could just say, you know, we've seen that before. where Moxley's on the verge of tapping out or something, and for everyone who wants to say, like, his facial expressions are good or anything, every time it comes across his hammy,
Starting point is 01:25:36 you know he's not going to tap, and he's making this exaggerated, silly face at the end of the day, and I don't think that's good at all, and he did it here and was silly. Everything is over, everything with everybody is over the top, because they've been taught that they're performers, rather than some of these things need to be subtle every once in a while. But anyway, more back and forth.
Starting point is 01:26:01 It wouldn't end until Moxley finally got the ankle lock again forever, and then Nigel tapped. Again, it's always a stationary, boring, fucking finish with this fucking guy. But that was what we had there. We saw a lot of British wrestlers win on the big show. Will Osprey, the brawling birds. Someone had to lose. and unfortunately it was crippled Nigel
Starting point is 01:26:24 who I don't know if you noticed because you were watching a Spanish commentary came back out later to do commentary on the show in a wheelchair Oh, I did notice that and we'll get to that here in a little while but yeah, it was good that he was able to be fucking resuscitated to come back out of a fucking wheelchair to do commentary. If anything happened to me
Starting point is 01:26:48 where I had needed to be in a wheelchair, I believe I'd ask somebody else to fill in for me on commentary. And just so I understand the Continental Cup, this is nothing to be defended, right? That's the Continental Championship from the Continental Tournament. The Cup is just a cup you win every year. Well, but he would have lost the Continental Championship, too,
Starting point is 01:27:07 if he hadn't to won the tournament. So he only gets to hold it for a year, for sure, unless he loses it before. You see how this is all just works like a Swiss watch. I'm sure Tony can explain it. I'm sure Dave's explain it. explained it to him on numerous occasions. All righty, I watched a little bit more of the next one because
Starting point is 01:27:28 you go from the outhouse to the penthouse in this one. For the international title, Kyle Feltcher, our young friend Take a Shit, who's been lost in a shuffle, and my best friend, oh, crappy, because I needed to see what was going on here. And if he would turn it up a little bit, And I knew at least Kyle and Take would be athletic, even if it would look like a video game where the other guy,
Starting point is 01:28:00 I wasn't convinced that he was even going to rise to this occasion. And as soon as the bell rang, Kyle Super kicked him, and he rolled out so he could take a nap on the floor and let Kyle and Take wrestle. And they went 100 miles an hour. And they did their shit. And then Okada came back in and beat up both of them by, doing almost nothing and slowly.
Starting point is 01:28:24 But I can't summarize what they did back and forth in this entire match, but you got the video game moves, you got the grandiose gestures where everyone has to pose and point and turn their back on the guy so that they can point to the, like Babe Ruth calling his home run, the ropes that they're going to run to hit to do the, is it just getting worse or am I just so sick? of it that I can't not see it now, that everybody is posing and prancing like the Omega has infected them with the twinkle toes and the fancy dancing and Prissy Pranson.
Starting point is 01:29:05 It's happening more than they're pointing and they're growling and they're yelling. Not O'Cada. Pointing and growling and yelling. O'Cada was on the floor most of the match. Well, no, O'Cada doesn't do any of that. but the others make up for it. But Okada doesn't growl or point or smile or cough or do anything.
Starting point is 01:29:30 He just, it's funny. He's Buster Keaton. But then again, again, take and Kyle their shit looks good. It's just, it's moves back and forth. And they do them because they can. It doesn't need to make sense. And the other guy does the least amount he can do. with the least amount of effort.
Starting point is 01:29:52 And then finally, well, not finally. But then the screwdriver. O'Cotta gets the screwdriver, but Kyle sees him. So he begs off and says, here, Kyle, you have the screwdriver. Well, and Kyle takes the screwdriver. And then he turns around to fucking like he's going to go stab take. And O'Cada grabs him from behind and tries to close line him. But Kyle ducks and take.
Starting point is 01:30:20 rolls Okada up and then Germans Kyle while he's got Okada in the roll up and that's a two count. And then they just throw the screwdriver away. So the heels kicked the shit out of
Starting point is 01:30:37 take a shit. And then he accidentally, I don't know what the fuck is going on. But that wasn't the end. Then they continued the match after the screwdriver spot. And then bunch of false finishes. Okada looked bored. They stared at each other. They traded the forearms.
Starting point is 01:31:01 More horse shit. Kyle gave, take a shit, the brainbuster on the turnbuckle and covered him and O'cada pulled him off a clothesline him and pinned Kyle, one, two, three. I mean, what the fuck? This slug beat Kyle. If you had to pick one. of these three to do anything with, Kyle's your man. So they beat him with the absolute laziest, most boring, most least impactful male wrestler
Starting point is 01:31:36 that Tony Kahn has ever signed to great amounts of money. And if you didn't already know that wrestling was fake, after watching this, you would at that point, the whole match. I felt like a lot of this match was like a rib on you the idea. Let's see what Okada could do. Oh, they threw him to the floor again. I guess we won't see him for another five minutes. And then he just sneaks in and gets to win. And who are we supposed to cheer for? Don had to talk Kyle in the hand of the belt to Okada and raising his hand. So, I don't know what the fuck. That was that match in my eyes.
Starting point is 01:32:26 All right. What else did your eyes? What else did you? your eyes see on this pay-per-view event? Dr. My Eyes have seen the pay-per-view. All right, the casino gauntlet match was up next. I can't believe that MJF was stuck in this bullshit indie match with this slug opponent. And everybody involved in this pretty much should be ashamed of themselves. Can I just ask you, just so I know going through this,
Starting point is 01:32:59 Did you watch it all the way through to see the ring announcing issue? Not well, see, I was still in Mexico. So anything that was in English was muted to the point where it wasn't really something I was hearing. Oh, man. What happened? Without spoiling what you're about to review, Commander comes out. And on the screen, it says, Commander, like on the big screen on the stage, it looks like Commander. and Justin Robert says,
Starting point is 01:33:29 coming out next, whatever number. Number 17, mystico. And people start booing because it wasn't mystico. And then Commander goes in there and does a few things. And then after he does that before the next person
Starting point is 01:33:46 goes out of Justin Roberts announces again, Commander! And then the next person to come out with the big music that you love so much, Justin Roberts says, and of course, Mystico!
Starting point is 01:34:02 It was pretty funny. Well, and as a matter of fact, see, now there was parts where I was skipping through, but I saw Mystico come out. We'll get there. Because,
Starting point is 01:34:15 first of all, they rang the bell with MJF and André. And Jesus Christ, I just can't get. He, Andrade, I don't get it. And they did this some shit and that he wasted a lot of time, took the selfie and suddenly Nick Wayne just appeared and dropped Andrade on his fucking head.
Starting point is 01:34:43 And that's when MJF and Nick made the deal. Well, we'll work together. You didn't get to hear. You didn't get to hear Tony Chivani once again yell out. Andrade is so cool. No, thank God. Why do they keep doing that? Why do they do any of this with Andron?
Starting point is 01:34:59 What makes him cool? What is cool about him? The ridiculous outfit he wears in the middle of the hottest summer we've had in decades? I don't... But it got worse because then, when Nick and MJF were working together on fucking Andrade, here came Ricky Steamboat's daughter. And a Hong Kong fooie, that fucking hobgoblin, did some phony shit. and some stereo moon salts off the top rope to the floor,
Starting point is 01:35:32 and then Tomaso started. I was like, you know what, it's a long night. So I fast forward at about five minutes. And I landed on a spot where I don't know who it was, but I wrote a masked mini is beating everybody up. Jericho is in. Doyle or Davis, not sure. and then Mistico came and I said that song, fuck it again.
Starting point is 01:36:04 And I fast forwarded some more. And when I stopped again, Danny Garcia was beating up MJF. I'm like, son of it, you better put all that money to bank. Daniel Garcia was one of two wrestlers that hit MJF in the face with their crotch in this match. And, you know, I'm sorry, he's a top guy or supposed to be a top guy there. Shouldn't be doing that, especially with Garcia. who's a job guy. I mean,
Starting point is 01:36:31 come on. At best, he's a charity case, is what he is. He is stealing from AEW wrestling every time he cashed his paycheck. But yeah, that's MJF's thing.
Starting point is 01:36:42 So in a single match with a top opponent, that's a great pop when the top opponent sticks his dick in MJF's face, you know, back at him. That's great,
Starting point is 01:36:52 not in these garbage matches with these job guys. Everybody ran into due spots, either that or they were laying on the floor watching waiting for the chance to do their spot. Jungle Jackoff came in. I wrote, will it ever be over? I fast forwarded some more.
Starting point is 01:37:11 And then apparently M.JF hit Nick Wayne with the heat seeker and Andrade shit-canned MJF and pinned Nick is the same goddamn finish they did with the three-way. The same thing, they just did some 45-minute. Plus, why the winner gets a title match. Why would we want to see Osprey against Andrade, two baby faces, is now what they've hemmed themselves in on unless they put it up again
Starting point is 01:37:42 and MJF wins it. Who the fuck wants to see Will Osprey versus Andrade? Maybe those escorts, they keep hiring the Senate Ringsside. Well, it just means continued employment for them, but otherwise, and the same finish. the one guy hits his finish on the other guy and the other guy fucking shit cans even steals it So the idea of the women sitting in the crowd
Starting point is 01:38:08 It's one thing him walking out there with dispassionate pseudo models or whoever they find This isn't the first time But when every match it happens And it happens every match He finds that one girl at ringside Are we supposed to think He bought her the ticket?
Starting point is 01:38:25 Are we supposed to think This woman who stands out like a sore thumb at AEW clearly with no male companion bought herself a lone ringside ticket for one person and they just knew Andrade would come by looking to take a selfie
Starting point is 01:38:42 It's like a weird thing between that and Chivani on multiple occasions now yelling out He's so cool! Like I almost feel like Andrade sat down with Tony Kahn and said like here's my wish list on how I want to be treated, and Tony Kahn just said yes to everything, even if it makes no.
Starting point is 01:39:03 Who are these girls at Riggs? Are we supposed to think he's hiring escorts? Well, that's the thing, is that nobody believes that it's organic, that it's real, that there's really women coming to the matches wanting to have their picture taken with this guy, because it is so obviously hired models, plants, whatever the phrase you want to use,
Starting point is 01:39:25 that it just calls attention to that they're desperate to try to make you believe these things about this guy rather than it being believable. And, you know, I'm sorry, but he's not getting the response that the Rock and Roll Express got in North Carolina or the Fantastics of the Von Erickson, Texas, or the baby faces of any era when it was legitimately, if there had been selfies, if that had been a thing, my God they used to try to drag the fucking baby faces off the apron
Starting point is 01:40:01 of the ring back into the crowds they could molest them some more but this is just pathetic trying to make people obviously believe that you're something you're not they can tell I mean is that what they're trying to like
Starting point is 01:40:17 is it the idea like Andrade draws girls I think that's legitimately in some fashion they're maybe the people that the audience that they're targeting or more importantly maybe the fucking creative brain trust they're the ones that think that this might actually be believed by some human being
Starting point is 01:40:44 some male person some anybody maybe they think that's you know what cool guys have is one oddly dressed and as you said sometimes dispassionate woman that stands out like a sore thumb coming to see you. That means you're over. Well, we will discuss more about Andrade, I'm sure this Wednesday or after this Wednesday show, but back to Wembley.
Starting point is 01:41:10 Well, we got another dream match. Edge and Christian Cage against the Hardley Boys with the match that we thought would never happen. and I never particularly was looking forward to to begin with. And again, I know this is something that for the AEW fans and the people who listen to Uncle Dave, this is what they've dreamed of. But I just zoned out, Edge and Christian tried
Starting point is 01:41:45 to have a halfway smart match with these kids. they also, you know, tried to have the best match they could have at this stage of the game without risking injury. Edge didn't jump off the top of a fucking 20-foot cage again and break his leg. It's impossible to take these two 40-year-old juvenile delinquents and their trampoline bullshit seriously as any kind of top wrestlers, top tag team, top anything. and Edge and Christian, as we mentioned, with a combined age of 104, whatever the fuck it is, are they're better than anybody else their age, but they're not as good as they used to be.
Starting point is 01:42:34 So to say that this tag match approached FTR and J. White and Juice Robinson from a few years ago, or any of the main event level tag matches of the attitude era or the rock and roll and midnight or whatever is no I enjoyed this match more than any other Young Bucks match I've ever seen I enjoyed this match more than any other Edging Christian match I've ever seen but it had nothing to do with any of them I know what a Young Bucks match is They need to wrestle tornado style Otherwise they can't get all their spots in
Starting point is 01:43:15 They don't get any reactions unless they get all their spots in And even then they have to beg people to get on their feet and react I know exactly what it's going to be And I'm not a big fan of Edging Christian I focused on Rick Knox I just watched Rick Knox And it was utterly fascinating Because my first thought was
Starting point is 01:43:37 It's almost like he's little Nemo and this is his slumberland and like he can watch but he can't actually like participate in the dream or the dream ends because if you watch what he's doing he's nowhere near the action usually every now and then he leans in
Starting point is 01:43:54 like in a weird way and he reacts his hands are constantly going and then he starts talking and you realize he's not talking to anyone is no one near him he's just talking out loud
Starting point is 01:44:05 he doesn't enforce any rules it was tornado style tags were unnecessary but I enjoyed the shit I've just watching him it was bizarre I've never seen a referee I detached from everything
Starting point is 01:44:22 the way that he was detached it was crazy so I encourage everyone to go back and watch that match and ignore everything happening in the ring except Rick Knox except the referee it's crazy it was really enjoyable to watch it that way well let me tell you
Starting point is 01:44:39 what I did. Because I mentioned when we started this that I had bought the thing on Prime Video and somehow they gave me Spanish. Well, about this time during this match, I said, fuck, we're two and a half hours in or whatever.
Starting point is 01:44:56 I got to come back on this later on. And I do this every time that they have one of these pay-per-views. I never watched the whole thing without stopping and walking away for a while. Somehow I can't, right? So I did the same thing.
Starting point is 01:45:12 I paused it. I went out of prime into my other TV inputs or whatever and watched something else and did some other things and went back and tried to pick it up. And it wouldn't. The show had ended. And it said show ended. Well, every time I've bought this thing, when I go back to it, whether it's ended or not,
Starting point is 01:45:38 I can always go back and it says resume playing, right? This would just know. It ended and it wouldn't give me any option. It just here are more details or whatever the fuck. It wouldn't give me any option to watch this fucking thing. So I went back to the goddamn home page. And I had to buy the fucking thing again. Did you buy it in English this time?
Starting point is 01:46:04 This time I got it in English. It's the same goddamn little thumbnail I clicked on. It's all in English. It was the same thing, but this time I got it in English. When I went to purchase it on Amazon Prime, there was also an option, and I almost did it, and then I realized I can't. It was like you could buy it on HBO Max, but here.
Starting point is 01:46:27 And it was right next to the you could buy it here, which was right next to you could buy it here in Spanish. And it's very confusing, unless you're paying close attention. you could easily buy the wrong thing or be sent away. Well, I paid twice for this goddamn fiasco. And then, and before we get back to it, this tag match, here's the final rip.
Starting point is 01:46:53 After all this was over with, I was looking through the cable guide to find out of something that I wanted to watch. And guess what's back up? The pay-per-view channel on Spectrum. After a year, there it was. I could have got it on real TV. Oh, get out of it.
Starting point is 01:47:08 It was available? For only $5 more. Oh, shit. Really? Yes, that's what it was listed. And now it would probably be the last time ever. But I could have fucking got it if I'd have known, but it's been so long I quit looking. Anyway, so this nonsensical bunch of bullshit,
Starting point is 01:47:29 Christian Cage goes outside and gets a wrench and a title belt. and he puts the wrench in his pocket. But he brings the title belt in, and of course this stupid, demented Rick Knox, the only reason he's got a job is because he's a friend of the buckaroos and he lets them do whatever the fuck they want to do.
Starting point is 01:47:50 And he's otherwise, he's the worst referee in a history of goddamn wrestling. And at his age, he's got to be 70 by now. He's going to be a liability when he has some kind of goddamn attack in the middle of the ring. he takes the belt and turns his back to hand it out so Christian pulls out the wrench and puts it in his elbow brace and they still go back and forth
Starting point is 01:48:16 and then he hits fucking Maddie with it and covers him one, two, three. So the dream match of all time, that was the finish, flat and rotten. And then they played music and here came the Motor City machine gun. and they started staring at everybody and then they played music and here came FTR dressed like gas station attendants and they stared at everybody
Starting point is 01:48:48 and then the music played and the new new day came in and they all stood there and stared at each other and then Edge's music played and Edge and Christian left and everybody else stood there stared at each other it's supposed to show you that AEW now has a top tier tag team division
Starting point is 01:49:09 and that wasn't all their tag teams those were just some of them they're just the ones that had their music queued up and their gas station attendant outfits flown over anyway that was the tag team match so Edge and Christian are they're still the champions right surprised by the finish actually no because I think that even the Buccaneers realized now that nobody gives a shit about them and if they started winning these big matches that there would be more of a right now
Starting point is 01:49:45 everybody's just resigned to it that oh they're going to be around because they're you know friends with Tony they're part of the deal but if they started like winning big matches I think there'd be more vocal what the fuck are you doing with these two type of reaction and that would call attention to them and they're making a ton of money. So that and plus as we saw later on, their friend Cutlet still has a job and Kenny Stoge, Nakazawa still has a job and they get to come to ringside and use their VHS camcorders and live out their jock-sniffing dreams.
Starting point is 01:50:25 So why rock the boat? They'll just, they'll do the jobs on the big ones and not get any heat. anyhow. But there was more. There was more. A Falls Count Anywhere match with Kevin Knight and Darby Allen. And I got a lot of notes on this. I hate it. We're going so long. But here's the summation of it is Darby Allen works this gimmick so fucking well
Starting point is 01:50:59 that I would openly admire him and praise him. be the president of his fan club. Except the problem is we've established it's not a gimmick, he really is a fucking mental case. So I now it's, I'm just, all I am is focused on what a disservice that the concept of him now does to the wrestling business, that all these serious main event fucking talents that have goddamn
Starting point is 01:51:35 some level of sanity are working hard and killing themselves when this guy is proven to the entire world that nothing that can be done to anybody in a wrestling context can ever hurt them or should hurt them. Because if this little 140-pound fucking dweeb
Starting point is 01:51:55 with his face painted up and his homemade fucking ring jacket and his goddamn skateboard cannot be killed, then why should I worry about any of the grown adults? It's just, it's like a big neon sign. This shit is fake as fuck and we're all stupid. And we just want to fucking do this stupid shit to see if we can get away with it without paralyzing ourselves.
Starting point is 01:52:26 And it doesn't matter what happens because the billionaire is paying us a fortune. So I'm concentrating now on the level of damage that Darby does to the wrestling business where you can never do another angle or try to do some kind of controversial finish to get some heat because they'll say, well, fuck, that wouldn't even hurt Darby Allen. Within the first 30 seconds, Darby was bleeding from a hard way. We're fucking dick, what's his name? Kevin Knight hit him over the head with the belt, I guess for real. Because I don't even think Darby had played the back of his head.
Starting point is 01:53:17 So they can't, 30 seconds in, they're just, they don't know what the fuck. And then they did some parkour on the floor. And Kevin Knight springboarded from the ring off the top rope, onto the announcer desk to splash Darby on the desk, and it didn't even break, which makes it hurt a lot worse, and covered him on the floor and got a two count. There was two minutes into this fucking thing.
Starting point is 01:53:52 This would have been a goddamn hospitalization angle in the attitude era. They would have replayed it like the bump off a goddamn hell in a cell at McFoly took. he used it for a false finish in the first two minutes of the match and then Kevin Knight threw five chairs in the ring and the fans were sitting there silent waiting for the next stunt they will pop on the stunt
Starting point is 01:54:21 and in between stunts they just sit there going okay well wonder what he's going to set up next and they tried Darby tried the code red off the top onto the pile of chairs in the ring but the chairs were too far away so Kevin Knight sold his knee but went over his head and then suddenly here came Brian Cage
Starting point is 01:54:49 and fucking Popeye Doyle into the ring they're not in the match but it's no DQ lazy booking so they just start setting up the chairs in a formation in the ring see
Starting point is 01:55:07 AJ's son, even these guys still set up chairs. And then Cage backdrop Darby where he landed crotch first on the chairbacks that were leaned up against each other. And then the heels in full front of the referee, full side of the referee, tape Darby's hands behind his back. And I'm like, oh, this always works. This can't miss. Remember who was the last one that got taped up or tied up?
Starting point is 01:55:44 And they had to hold the tape together or pretend they were still taped? It was lyric. That was what doomed lyric valedictorian. Oh, that's right. Against Becky. Yeah. Yeah. So then anyway, suddenly Sting's son, Sting Jr., Steve Borden, runs in.
Starting point is 01:56:04 And he fights the heels, but they stop him. and now the heels start doing spots with Borden Jr. I'm like nobody that's in this match is actually, you see what I'm saying here. All the action is from people that are not involved in the match, and the crowd is sitting there. And I'm back on the English commentary, so I ought to be able to hear the goddamn
Starting point is 01:56:34 and cage power bombed board. through a table that was leaned up in the corner. It was like a buckle bomb. The same way that his father got hurt, almost paralyzed. And this fucking muscle-headed goof, Cage, I'm about him too, I'm just about fucking fed up with. He powerbonded him so low, it put the back of his head through it. He didn't put his ass through the middle.
Starting point is 01:57:05 His ass was almost hitting the mat by the time he hit the table. and then Darby was on the top rope with his hands taped behind his back and gave Huracan Ranas to Cage and dove on to Kevin Knight. But then Cage stopped him and superplexed him. Again, these people are just having a different match now. And they honestly think this shit is good. and then they hung Darby upside down from the tree of woe and was going to coast to coast him but the lights went out and the musing hit
Starting point is 01:57:46 and musing, musing hit, it was amusing the music. The music hit and it was sting. And he got the big pop because it's sting, but I'm sorry. But does he look ridiculous with the gray hair and the face paint? You know, I've been okay with it. so far, but I actually thought this was the first time he looked like old man sting. You know, he lost a little bit of size and that's kind of all it took.
Starting point is 01:58:16 Well, he beat up the heels with the bat and then gave Darby the bat and Darby hit Kevin Knight twice with a baseball bat and Knight didn't go down. He just got into position for staying to have been backwards and Scorpion death drop him. and then they got a ladder and they set up this giant ladder and both Sting and his son climbed up it but then at the top they shook hands
Starting point is 01:58:47 and Sting climbed back down and then Jr. dove off the top of the ladder onto the heels on the floor but now by the way this is not happening nearly as quickly as I'm saying it because the pace
Starting point is 01:59:06 between all this shit is glacial. And then the Bordons and the heels fought off. Then Darby finds the baseball bat again and chases Kevin Knight up the entrance ramp. And this has already been one of the more embarrassing to wrestling displays that I've ever seen in this deal. Or they get to the stage and they lose the bat so that they can fight on the stage
Starting point is 01:59:37 and around the lighting rig, which is taken forever. And then Darby starts climbing the light truss. And he gets out of, Brian, was he 30 feet up? Had to be, right? It was pretty high up, yeah. And he does the coffin drop from 30 feet up
Starting point is 01:59:55 off onto Kevin Knight, onto the rigged spot in the stage where the stage collapses. And you, it wasn't, like that they went through into a giant pit. You could still see shit. It was just somehow they padded this thing. And I don't know what his margin for error was, but again, he's a fucking idiot.
Starting point is 02:00:19 Because an irresponsible, and Tony Kahn's a fucking idiot and irresponsible, just because this kid doesn't give a fuck whether he hurts or kills himself or not, whether it's financially or whether it's just because whatever mental issues he has that are going untreated while he's catered to it, allowed to do this shit, made to believe he's some kind of fucking superstar. Tony Kahn as the owner, she said, I don't care if it's a 50 by 50 foot spot that they've got gimmicked. You're not falling backwards onto this thing from 30 feet. and then to make it worse after they risk killing somebody here, then they kill the business because less than 30 seconds later,
Starting point is 02:01:13 Darby is crawling out of the whole area. And from under the stage, they've already got Kevin Knight on a wheelie stretcher and are wheeling him out. Yeah, how did that happen like that? It almost felt like I missed something and I didn't miss something. No, because it's, soon as somewhere or another, they made this
Starting point is 02:01:33 soon as Darby got everybody's attention and was doing this bump. They did the switcheroo and they had Kevin Knight on the goddamn stretcher to be wheeled out so that when Darby crawled out he could stand up and say, oh no, motherfucker. And coughing, drop him
Starting point is 02:01:49 off the stage while he was on the fucking stretcher. But he would have been under Darby who he saw climb out. Of course he would. They think they're fucking David Copperfield. It starts to say Chris Rock, Chris Angel. They think they're some famous magician.
Starting point is 02:02:11 The only thing they're doing is making their goddamn fans disappear. Well, Darby wins the TNT Championship. Yes, he did. And I would have fired both these idiots for suggesting any of this if any of this was their idea. And there goes Kevin Knight's big push. What was that? six to eight weeks.
Starting point is 02:02:32 He gets a title match with MGM. He gets the T&D title. No. Two months later, but okay, fuck it. No, this means the push is still going on. With Tony Kahn, if you lose a big match, that means you're getting a good push. If you win the match, you really got to worry about things.
Starting point is 02:02:50 Well, pardon me while I take a sip of sprite. Take a sip of sprite. We've been going a while, ladies and gentlemen, we will be right back with the remainder of All In and so much more. right after this short timeout. All right, we are back. Trying to get Jim in a good mood by playing his favorite of the songs,
Starting point is 02:03:18 but more AEW All-in from Wembley. Yeah, so my mood will not change for a little while here. The women's title was on the line or one of them. Willow Nightingale against Mercedes Mone and Willow now has hurt her hand. I guess is it broken, but she's got an injured hand and she worked this show with it.
Starting point is 02:03:44 If she's hurt bad enough that she has to be off for a while after this, then I guess she had to lose the belt and this match was booked. Otherwise, why? Why? Has Mercedes been the biggest flop of all the multimillion dollar signings.
Starting point is 02:04:07 Remember, it was about the same time of her at Okada and I think Osprey. And Osprey, they've got not what they could have out of him, but they've gotten something out of him. Okada is useless, but at least the New Japan weirdos still see a functional human being in that carcass. Has she added anything to anything? push to the moon, rotten promos, stunningly full of herself like she's Taylor Swift.
Starting point is 02:04:42 And it seems for real instead of somebody working, she was supposed to be a baby face, but she was so rotten and got such backlash. They made her a heel. Give Willow Mercedes's money. She produced. She got over. And now when she,
Starting point is 02:05:05 She gets over the first one of these women in this company that is actually, that was a moment she had on TV. And they're liking her. She's getting over. She's popular. She gets hurt. And instead of at least, unless she's going to have goddamn her hand amputated, do what they did with Chelsea. Build on it. they're botched that with Chelsea too,
Starting point is 02:05:36 but don't just take the fucking thing off of her and hear Mercedes, the biggest overpaid flop comes back and now she's the champion again and poor Willow.
Starting point is 02:05:52 Am I crazy here or is Willow more popular, more meaningful, producing better than anything Mercedes has done since she's been there? I mean, I've been saying since day one that I thought they had something special with Willow. Mercedes is good in the ring for women.
Starting point is 02:06:14 She certainly, I mean, you could argue how beneficial it's been to AEW as a whole, but I think a lot of that is an argument of how beneficial the women's division has been to AEW as a whole. I thought it was a good match, even with Willow's injury. Willow someone people like rooting for. and Mercedes, I'm sure Tony Kahn knew this was something she wanted to win their world championship on their biggest show and the biggest stadium they run.
Starting point is 02:06:45 And now she gets to cross that offer list. She finally wins it. Well, at one point, they almost broke Aubrey Ed's leg. They did a deal. Mercedes was working the bad hand and Willow pushed Mercedes into Aubrey, but she almost missed Aubrey. She was going, she was following. at the same time and clipped her leg.
Starting point is 02:07:06 Good of broken it. Yeah, that looked bad. And she was selling on the apron. I wasn't sure. She's supposed to be knocked out and she's checking her knee even though she's knocked out or is it that she's like hurt her knee so bad she can't turn over? Yeah, I, apparently she was back up. But then they did a deal where again, they do all these fucking false finishes with gimmicks and everything right in the middle of the match.
Starting point is 02:07:37 Mercedes got the belt, swung and missed. Willow got the belt, hit Mercedes twice, then threw her back in, power bombed her. Aubrey rolled over from her bump, two count. I'm like, Jesus Christ! At this point, it's like Dory Senior and Cyclone Negro. They're just on and on again.
Starting point is 02:08:03 And then Willow buckle bombed her into the bare buckle. They pulled the buckle pad off and then pulled her up and tried a power bomb off the top, but Mercedes Hurricane Ronid her after she'd been buckle bombed into the bare buckle,
Starting point is 02:08:19 then more back and forth and false finishes. And then after all that, Mercedes got some kind of STF on with Willow's own arm wrapped around her and they laid there stationary forever and Willow was trying to get to the ropes but couldn't,
Starting point is 02:08:38 and then Aubrey called for the bell. All those giant moves, and they, again, the most boring, shit imaginable, stationary in the middle of the ring, like Moxley, and the heel out-wrestled the most popular girl they got. Hello. Choked her out. I thought it was a good match. I didn't like the finish.
Starting point is 02:09:03 Well, that was that. but there was more there always is we got to get to the greatest match of all time bride is that that's what dave said right the greatest match of all time he hasn't actually said that has he he said it on twitter when he was arguing with hooty and the blowfish and you think i'm kidding but i'm not darius he's telling darius rucker that uh in a conversation that he was not in that he was not involved in. Darius Rucker and tweeted days ago
Starting point is 02:09:40 about how he misses wrestling and how, boy, how that angle with Dusty and Oli and the Omni was great. And then somebody tweeted, well, Osprey and Fucking Omega just had the greatest match ever. And Darius Rucker tweeted back at him, you never saw flare and steamboat.
Starting point is 02:10:00 And Dave jumped in on it. and Dave's oh I've seen flare and steamboat many times but Osprey and Omega just had the greatest match of all time because nobody's ever been better at drama and emotion than Kenny and it's goddamn embarrassing it's just fucking if if if Dave didn't bring most of this on himself I would say we're abusing an elder but he's got to tell and that's why I tweeted back.
Starting point is 02:10:34 I said, it's one thing to try to tell hoody what kind of wrestling he ought to fucking like. But if he starts arguing with the blowfish, I'm calling adult protective services. And the other problem is Dave lives on Twitter. I mean, that's become quite apparent because responding to people briefly is one thing, posting your own clips is one thing,
Starting point is 02:11:01 writing paragraphs of people all day. That takes time. I don't care what he says. To try to educate him on how wonderful everything he is that he says is wonderful. Yeah, Dave thinks the role of the smug condescending professor is a good one. He thinks that's the way to teach, apparently. Or maybe that's the way people who taught him talk to him. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:11:29 I have a feeling we're starting to find out. why a lot of people have talked to Dave the way they have over the years. But anyway, back to live action here, the greatest match of all time. And here's the thing. Tony Kahn, instead of being the Spielberg of wrestling, is turning into the Ed Wood of wrestling. Because there's stuff here. There's parts here and pieces here.
Starting point is 02:12:01 and he's got the money. He paid for the fucking who. If Tony Kahn had put the same amount of money in this that he has, but he had been able to separate the serious talent from the indie goofs, if he'd hired some veterans that they had to listen to to produce them instead of suggest things,
Starting point is 02:12:29 if he'd had a clear vision of an athletic, but realistic product to counteract the WWE. And if he'd stayed the fuck out of creative, this war could be a goddamn horse race instead of a money pit. He was in Wembley Stadium with this local hero. And hey, Osprey needs to be produced and he's got his issues, but he's the closest thing they have ever had to a legitimate top baby face that the people like that you could take seriously.
Starting point is 02:13:11 And they were in this stadium with all the money for pyro in the world to make it look like a big deal. And they shot Osprey's entrance as a mini movie. And the music video was set to Baba O'Reilly. And not only the significance of the Who and Wembley Stadium and et cetera, et cetera, but how much did that cost? Bill Kirby? That probably costs a whole lot of money and it's a great song.
Starting point is 02:13:44 I think that opening video was tremendous. It was fantastic. And even when I said, what the fuck? The career highlights the picture, it was voiced over by his mother, which again is another first in wrestling history. But honest to God, she did a good job and kind of pulled it off.
Starting point is 02:14:04 At the end of the thing, guys like it wasn't bad. That's what I'm saying. They've got all the money in the world. I mentioned that, but they've got pieces. They've got parts of it. They just can't put it all together. And he doesn't have the eye for the talent because you've got Osprey in this thing with a mini-movie entrance with the Who and his mother's voiceover. And he walks to the ring past all of this with meaningful looks that he's had interactions with and kissed his wife and put on his robe. Go ahead. If I could just say, because usually I wouldn't like this kind of thing, I loved it here.
Starting point is 02:14:48 I actually thought it worked great. I really liked it. Yes. Even it's, I mean, it's kind of awkward, as great a song as it is. I mean, when he's screaming teenage wasteland. Well, I was still, but, you know, I thought this was so fucking cool. This is one of the best things AEW did, the entrance of Will Osprey here. Well, and Ospre or Moxley even gave him the British flag, the Union Jack,
Starting point is 02:15:14 and then just walked out, which is the best thing for him, right? He just got out of there. He stole it from the fucking Toad and Tickle. And then they hit Osprey's music, and he enters, and he didn't get a big pop. It wasn't like a, what? Because everybody was singing his song. and the pyro and they could pan the stadium more now that it was dark. And they got the big Osprey, Osprey and more pyro and the whole fucking stadiums blowing up.
Starting point is 02:15:48 And the introduction and the Osprey chant. That was great. And his opponent is this goddamn douchebag. This fucking prancing, dancing, pointing, facing, making. douchebag, this milk sock, this goddamn idiot. And that killed a whole thing for me. The video
Starting point is 02:16:17 looked like shit, because it looked like they took it off VHS tapes. And it had a Japanese voiceover with English subtitles. So next to Osprey, it looked like shit visually. It sounded like shit. Because he didn't have the who. with some goofy music,
Starting point is 02:16:38 I don't know what to fuck. The script was overly dramatic douchebaggery like Kenny. And the last line when he cuts his promo, it's time to go plus ultra. So he's going to win with pouches? He's listening to the show. Our sponsor is he's going to pack in
Starting point is 02:17:00 eight pouches in his chipmunk cheeks and go out and win the fucking match. it was like again a major league production for osprey and then indie wrestling bullshit for kenny even in the quality of the video and then he came out and stood there and they played some different music for him than they normally play it sounded like and he walks out with the heartily boys behind him and there's knock it off and cutlet with with their little VHS cameras, are they still doing their little online YouTube show?
Starting point is 02:17:47 And they're stooge clapping for Kenny and his music is horrible, and he gets the big introduction, and he makes weird faces. And that was the theme of this Osprey. I don't like everything he does, and he needs to be produced, but he's got appeal and charisma,
Starting point is 02:18:06 and he can do shit, and he's over. And then there's this guy. His strikes are weak. His facials are weird. His movements are exaggerated. His demeanor is off-putting. None of his matches can be taken as fights. Did I mention he's weird?
Starting point is 02:18:28 I can't be intimidated of him. I've heard him speak. He's phony. He's overacting and phony. At Lee, Osprey shit looks critical. for graceful. Kenney's is gesturing and gesticulating and moving in odd ways. And I can't unsee it.
Starting point is 02:18:51 And he's gone from a few weeks ago, he was a baby face saying, gosh darn, and golly G. It is promos to acting like Caesar Romero in a 66 Batman series. Because he's suddenly he thinks turning heel is laughing monotting and making weird faces and talking to myself like a madman, I'm just talking to himself or his opponent like he's crazy in two weeks. It just, no. So that's, they did every AEW match,
Starting point is 02:19:33 various dives, they do a move and pose, they spend long spells on the floor where they ought to be counted out, but they're not. You know, the seconds argue Osprey got juice for the monitor shot that Kenny hit him with. So now again, Kenny's using
Starting point is 02:19:56 fucking blunt instruments and whatever. And then Kenny powerbombed him off the desk onto a table next to the desk where the legs broke instead of the table. So there was a hospitalization angle again with 20 minutes left in this thing.
Starting point is 02:20:17 They'd been on the floor for minutes. I even wrote. They'd been on floor for minutes, not C-O-R, count out a ring. But Dave will say this is the best match ever and they're brilliant. And then Osprey beat the count, even though he laid there for over a minute. He managed to make it in before the 10 count. And that's when Kenny started growling and making the facials. and speaking in tongues to the camera.
Starting point is 02:20:46 And then Kenny hit another dive, and he was telling the doctor, don't stop it. And I was wishing somebody would stop it. Osprey sells great. Kenny did a German suplex off the top rope, two count. More heat on Will Osprey. And I noticed, have you noticed this? Kenny does not do any pro wrestling moves.
Starting point is 02:21:12 He does video game. shit. He does these weird moves he came up with. But he doesn't just arm drag or hip toss or backdrop or drop kick or body slam with any degree of regularity. It's all this horseshit. And then they traded forearms. And then they tried to box. Apparently, maybe Osprey was trying to box because Kenny got his eye busted open. lots of leg slaps. Osprey hit the elbow two count. Osprey with a power bomb and a Stiles Clash two count.
Starting point is 02:21:55 Then they traded girl punches for a while. Then there was your spot, Brian. Kenny pointed and pranced and hit the one-winged fairy and got a two-count. And that was a big pop. Because nobody ever kicked out of it. Like as one other person did Kota Abushi, I didn't realize that. Oh, well, I wonder why. But imagine a big pop for kicking out of something that nobody ever kicks out of.
Starting point is 02:22:28 Who would have thought that would happen? Doesn't happen anymore because everybody always kicks out. So Kenny made some more weird faces and gestured and hit the knee lift and then Will hit the tiger driver. But didn't cover him, just dropped him on his head. Why'd he drop him on his head? And then they staggered around and Will Osprey hit the one-wing fairy and got a one count.
Starting point is 02:22:58 I can't tell you the fight that would have erupted in the locker room if some guy had told any top star of the past, I'm going to hit your move on you, but it's only going to get a one count. And then he hit his elbow. and then a suplex.
Starting point is 02:23:20 They got another one count. Now Kenny's kicking out of Oz. And then Willie pulled off his elbow pad and Kenny was on his knees where he's most comfortable. And Osprey hit the elbow again, the hidden blade, one, two, three, big pop. Thank God it's over, more pyro. I just can't tolerate the stench of the performance
Starting point is 02:23:49 that Kenny gives whenever he's out there. I can't unsee all the fake, phony, unnatural, and douchebaggy things that he says, does, and the aura that he emits. But was this, Brian, to an un, to a, to an, not an unbiased observer, no pun intended, was this the greatest match there's ever been?
Starting point is 02:24:19 Not to me. I thought it was really good. Like you called out, and I've called it out recently for a bunch of Omega matches. It's always his matches, where they have minutes around ringside or brawling into the crowd. No countdown, the referee doesn't matter. They did it here again. You know, Heel Omega hams it up a whole lot more than Babyface Omega. I don't know why he thinks being a heel is making crazy faces and talking to yourself,
Starting point is 02:24:50 I don't get it. I almost felt like this was the end of an era. You know, something symbolic about Omega out there with the Bucks, their collective stooges, who were only there because of the Bucks and Omega, and him losing on the biggest show they've had this year and we'll probably have for the foreseeable future, a big show, a big moment, the elevation of Will Osprey.
Starting point is 02:25:19 It was something kind of like the changing, in the guard. Do you think this means we never have to see them again? Oh, no, I think the Young Bucks will be there for a little while longer at least. I mean, they're already putting out there that they're thinking about this being their last contract and never wrestling again because they're set for life, which is a wonderful renegotiation tactic to put that out there. But you know what?
Starting point is 02:25:45 If they're not set for life, we can take up a collection. Well, we shall see, but Will Osprey, the right guy won, and the fans there seemed to really eat it up. It looked great. I know it wasn't a sold-out Wembley Stadium, but it looked really good. Once again, they made it look really good. Especially when it got dark and they could pan. That's when it started looking impressive. Daylight, they had to stay tight in some ways that, you know, they couldn't show it to its glory.
Starting point is 02:26:19 and now we have a new world champion the will osprey era begins yay any final closing thoughts about all in yeah boy howdy i bet you if mjf had been beating a shit out of will osprey in front of all those brits they would have had a riot by the time that osprey made his comeback but instead we got 30 or 35 minutes of douchebaggery well a big match to end an era and of course maybe it would have gone a little different for Kenny Omega, when he was making all those wacky faces, what if he had been inserting ultra pouches into his gums? Putting them, I don't know if inserting it to your gums is the right
Starting point is 02:27:00 way to put it, ladies and gentlemen. What if Kenny Omega had ultra pouches and he just stuffed them right in there and let himself get energized and focus? Oh boy, help me. Jim Cornyette, ladies and gentlemen. First of all, I would love to stand in line to be one of the people to insert some stuff in his gums. But secondly, that's what I said just a little while ago. That's what he even said. He said he was going to win this match because it was time to take ultra. That's what he said, wasn't it?
Starting point is 02:27:29 And it's time to take ultra, courtesy of ultra pouches at take ultra.com. Because that way he would, you know, I hesitate to say that Kenny would improve if he had better focus because his brain obviously is wired backwards. If he took his brain and stuck it in a pigeon, it would fly upside down. But if you as a normal person out there want to take an ultra pouch, it's going to help you with your focus. It's going to help you with your concentration. And it's not going to be bad for you like some of these other pouches are because it doesn't
Starting point is 02:28:06 have any nicotine and it doesn't have any caffeine. It's just got good, wholesome, fresh. ingredients that were handmade in a laboratory to be natural. And folks, you can't beat that. No, no longer are you going to have a nicotine pouch where it's going to make your blood vessels blow up and cause you to bleed out in front of your family and friends. Vaso constriction, all that other stuff.
Starting point is 02:28:36 It restricts oxygen delivery. That's all that stuff. And the caffeine, you know, that's bad for you too. Well, that can send you into goddamn seizures and all kinds of things, where, you know, it's proven that 98% of people who commit mass murders have a problem with too much caffeine. Did you see that study?
Starting point is 02:28:59 I did not say you didn't see it. That's not anything proven or a study that I know. Well, I saw it the other day. It was on the side of a barn. It was hanging there. But folks, you don't have to worry about that either. So with you take these take ultra pouches, is you're not going to become a mass murderer, nor bleed out in front of your family.
Starting point is 02:29:18 You're just going to have calm, steady, flow state, focus, enhanced memory, smooth energy, and a balanced mood because these things are trusted by top athletes, entrepreneurs, engineers, and Jabberwockies all around the world. And they've got cool, mint, winter green, tropical watermelon, or blue raz. so they actually had to throw out the dirty underwear. They didn't test properly. But folks, Ultra is the ultimate guilt-free pouch delivering that instant focus and mental clarity
Starting point is 02:29:52 without the nicotine or caffeine. If you want that focus, if you want that balanced mood, if you want that calm, if you want that X-ray vision, if you'd like to be able to hear through walls, just right now. You can't do that. You don't have X-ray. vision once again
Starting point is 02:30:10 for some energy and clarity I use ultra pouches to edit I don't see through my computer I edit what's on the computer normal everyday life skills stay in place
Starting point is 02:30:25 often you hear things that aren't there but you can differentiate between reality and fantasy thanks to the focus that the ultra pouches give you right before you start elucinating I don't again, no, there's no hallucination involved in this example, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 02:30:46 Oh, you stopped hallucinating. So it's what the Ultra Pouches stop you from hallucinating is what it is. Folks, if you're hallucinating now, I would like to stop, then new customers can go to take ultra.com and use the promo code JCE, and you're going to get 15% off. That's 15% off and less. hallucinations at take ultra.com with the promo code JCE. That's, that's what we were trying to say, wasn't it?
Starting point is 02:31:17 That's exactly what we were trying to say. Once again, I use it to edit. Use it however you need to with realistic expectations. Ultra pouch. Ultra pouches. There's multiple pouches. Take ultra.com slash JCE. All right, just Swami's barking. This is all.
Starting point is 02:31:39 and so well here today. Buddy and Alfie say hello. Hello. Over there. And over here, we have more to go. Threw me for a loop there. Jim, W.W.E. Raw.
Starting point is 02:31:54 Oh, boy. Took place, and it was a taped episode, just like Smackdown last week, taped in advance, and edited, censored in advance, I guess. Censored. Censored in advance,
Starting point is 02:32:06 sanitized for your protection. and now they have put themselves into position where they are censoring fake blood. Because I guarantee you that jumping somebody at a parking lot where I would think they would know if Netflix has been doing this now the past couple of times, they either blur it or they go black and white
Starting point is 02:32:33 if there's blood, whatever, you think somebody's going to take a razor blade and cut themselves in the head for an angle in the parking lot it's going to be censored anyway so the people don't see it? What kind of fucking morons would be doing that? So they obviously got gimmick blood and then censored the gimmick blood. Because why wouldn't they use gimmick blood if you can't see it anyway? But then why are they censoring it if it's gimmick blood?
Starting point is 02:33:03 Do you see that the things that I'm saying do not add up with common sense? Yeah, it was a bit puzzling. I, of course, prefer the Red X from the WWF of my youth or the Smoky Mountain Wrestling of your teen years. That's right. But I don't know about the blurring. Again, that's what they used to do to the turnbuckles
Starting point is 02:33:26 with the WWF logo. Well, it wasn't like that anybody was bleeding out either. They were in the parking garage of the building right at the start of the program. The Uso's pull up and here's old hoist keys and his guys, what are their names? Who knows what their names are? And they
Starting point is 02:33:46 beat the shit out of the Uso's and broke the windshield of the car, just created all kinds of havoc. And then Jacob Fattu showed up with a lead pipe, but the heels took off and he couldn't catch them. But they blurred, they digitized the face
Starting point is 02:34:02 of the Uso that was bleeding, and then I think there was blood on somebody else that wasn't even from their head and they blurred that also. And it looked, just, it was odd on a wrestling program. They're not normally that sanitary. And then at least they're trying to shake the format up.
Starting point is 02:34:25 We've said they, they do the same thing all the time. So they did this at the start of the show. Then they send poor old Saul Ruka out to the ring with a split screen as the officials in the back are trying to deal with the Uso's, or at least you believe it's the Uso's because you can't see their face. And then Rochelle, Rochelle goes to the ring and they are going to have a girl's match with Saul and Raquel. But then Fahtu shows up at ringside and starts cutting a promo standing on the
Starting point is 02:34:57 desk about the attack on the Uso's. And when he gets to the part where he says, motherfucker, and they bleep that out, then they cut the microphone so he wrecks ringside and stores. forms off and then they ring the bell for the girls match. So talk about poor girls that couldn't follow that. But at least they're trying to shake things up a little bit. But again, now, didn't we hear when they went to Netflix, well, now the language restrictions will be opened up
Starting point is 02:35:29 and we're not having to deal with some of the things that we had to deal with on cable television? Well, is this? They could show that shit. on USA, they can't show and say shit on Netflix that they could show on the USA network now? Dynamite shows blood all over the place and that's a competitor to USA. And again, and I'm surprised that they haven't gotten some type of angry communications for the amount of blood that they show, but it goes from a slaughterhouse on one channel to, oh my God,
Starting point is 02:36:06 we popped a pimple, we've got to cover this up on the other channel. stands out because it's never been like this. The blurring of their faces for an angle that was supposed to be in like real time, that was a bit puzzling a decision. It wasn't like it was a ton of blood, like he said. Maybe they were trying to hide the fact that the blood looked like shit. Who knows?
Starting point is 02:36:26 But then Jacob Fatu goes out there and drops a motherfucker and they blur him out. Obviously, they weren't out what he said. So it was a weird one-two punch of censorship to start to show. well and since the whole thing and this the show was only an hour and 40 minutes long it was as you said it was taped in cleveland i don't know why did they have to go somewhere or just a like a cookout or i don't know whatever but nevertheless so there wasn't much to it basically let's keep with the bloodline because later on an SUV pulled up it was roman and there's fatu standing there like a and he's dressing you guys
Starting point is 02:37:10 now in this all red outfit I mean I would see Ronnie Gossett wearing something like this thing and he's telling Roman hey the Uso's are fucked up and Roman says well old Keyes and his gang that's your problem you
Starting point is 02:37:26 handle it everything else is my problem so then he turns around he goes to the ring and he's cutting the promo where he's at least Penta and Phoenix are earning their shot but everybody else is out here bitching and moaning
Starting point is 02:37:42 and they're being disrespectful. Which brings me to solo. I gave you a chance to serve the family and you blew it for L.A. Knight? He may remind you of the rock, but he's not family. Actually, I think L.A. has more Austin to it. But nevertheless, as soon as he says
Starting point is 02:38:03 that, L.A. night music, and L.A. night comes out talking to you from the entranceway cuts the promo to Roman. The OTC, one tremendous coward. And he talked his way to the ring, and by the time he finished the promo and stepped to the ring, it's like, well, we're going to see about this right now.
Starting point is 02:38:25 On the screen, Solo is down in the back. And the officials are checking on him, and Fatu is there. And L.A. Knight turns around and runs back because, you know, they've been best friends for, god damn a week and a half now but as he runs into the scene like what's happened to solo roman rains comes in behinds him behinds him and superman punches him and knocks him out so i think if i was one of the w w wrestlers i would stay in the ring that's the only safe place you get hurt whenever you're in the parking lot or the locker route and then basically that
Starting point is 02:39:12 was we were up to our main event, which was Penta versus Phoenix to determine who's going to face Roman rains in two weeks. Because they're going to do raw in Mexico City, right? They're going to have the first AAA in Los Angeles, the second AAA in Mexico, and then they're staying for raw. Is that what I'm being led to believe now? I know they're doing raw for the first time and forever there, but I don't know about the water of events.
Starting point is 02:39:40 obviously. Well, yeah, I think because it's, the triple mania is on the Friday and the Sunday. I'm thinking, but nevertheless, Penta versus the Lucha brothers against each other, this wasn't Dory versus Terry
Starting point is 02:39:53 and the championed carnival final. But then again, what was? You know, this is going to play very well in Mexico. There's stars there here. To me, it's the same thing I said the other day. They're doing the same shit that everybody else does.
Starting point is 02:40:15 Some of the things they do, you can't tell who ought to sell it. And they can do all the triple Indies in the world, but their basics are either shit or just overlooked. So it always looks like a cooperative performance and never seems like a contest. They're exhibiting their fancy moves they can do. And then Penta gave Phoenix his finish on the announcer, desk, how many times have I said that in this show?
Starting point is 02:40:47 Now they've got to the point where you expect that. And the desk collapsed, and they got back in the ring, and that was a two count. And then more bullshit. And finally, Penta hit the Mexican destroyer in one, two, three, which we knew he was going to win, because in this environment, he's a bigger star, and you can see Roman Rain saying, well, I'll work with Penta and Mexico. The end. I thought it was really good.
Starting point is 02:41:18 Last few minutes especially were really super hot. They got the fans they were really into it. Good match. Yeah, well, so's your old man. All right. Well, that was raw. I don't, I just, again, there's nothing different about so much of this. It's just so excessive. And everybody's got to do the things that everybody's got to do.
Starting point is 02:41:43 they've lost track of the simple shit which is kind of halfway make it look legitimate give them a strong baby face and a strong heel save the major hospitalization angles for the goddamn major angles
Starting point is 02:42:03 and don't break the announced desk five times a fucking night I've just I feel like I'm looking at the same shit over and over again. And I never got that feeling in the days before they started doing all this shit all the fucking time.
Starting point is 02:42:26 Possibly, I'm just too sensitive. And to throwback to earlier in the show, the solution isn't work a headlock for 25 minutes? No. There's always got to be a temperature where the porridge is just right. It's just that nobody goes for it. They either do every,
Starting point is 02:42:46 everything they've ever seen and ever known how to do, or they goddamn strip it down to, well, this is real because we're not hitting the ropes. I just want my porridge just right. Brian, is that too much for a boy to ask? As a wrestling fan, it just may be. That was WWE Raw. All right, we're here. We have returned.
Starting point is 02:43:14 It sounded like somebody running a pickup truck over Bed Springs. I was going for someone driving a pickup truck. truck over Jerry Lee Lewis. So, you know, maybe one day you'll have the ear to hear this sound and understand. I think I'm going to do a Van Gogh if you keep playing. By the way, if you hear anything with your little ear, we've been joined by Nature Boy Buddy Cornett in the office. We got a studio audience now.
Starting point is 02:43:42 He's got his little chew stick, but he's been, and he's in his little playpen, but he's right next to me. He was just on during our brief break there. just on my chest laying in my arms like a baby sucking on my index finger like it was a little baby bottle pacifier type of thing. He's just the cutest little thing in the world. He'll be observing us from now on as we do as we finish this program. All right. It's always good to have someone in the studio, a special guest. Jim. How many studio guests have we had so far that will suck your fingers. Again, that's kind of gross, but I can't answer that. Jim, we have a couple of things
Starting point is 02:44:28 left here on the show, but there's another thing that I wanted to briefly... Are you talking about the first thing or the second thing? See, I'm not going to be serious now. I got puppy brain. You certainly do. Jim, I want to ask you about something. I think we may have talked about in the past, but enough people have sent it to me to the Culticornec Facebook group on various forms of media through email, some acting like it's footage that's been uncovered. Yes. So let me just ask you about the 1988 footage going around. It's you in Charlotte, I believe on local television.
Starting point is 02:45:02 Please explain more. But it's a very slim and slender and healthy-looking Jim Cornett at a good point in his life. Well, what it is, and it's not anything that's like been lost footage that's suddenly uncovered. Somebody, I guess, just put it on Facebook. or something and people start seeing it, I put it on a video that I did years ago. I don't know whether it was the Midnight Express Rarities video that I did to go along with the Midnight Express scrapbook, whatever, but nevertheless, I could uncover it by going
Starting point is 02:45:36 over here to my office shelf and pulling the tape down. So it's not like it's lost, but it was, and I want to say it was WSOC, Channel 9, God, it's been 40 years. because I was somewhat notorious as a television personality in the Charlotte area, and it was coming up on the 88 Great American bashes. Yes, but he remembers those fondly. And so it was the news station asked Crockett, K, can we do a story on Jim Cornett? And they came to me and I said, yeah, whatever, you know, it's promoting the bashes coming up. but we were at, was it 88?
Starting point is 02:46:21 Yeah, we were at the stadium still in 88, weren't we? It was definitely 88. Yes. And that's why I was slim and trim because we had the bunkhouse, three on two bunkhouse matches with the Fantastics, and I was wrestling, and that was the year that we did like fucking 40 shows
Starting point is 02:46:38 and 44 days or whatever, so I had dropped weight to get ready for that chaos. So I waited like 190 at that point. and that was the, no, I take it back, $195. But nevertheless, so they ended up doing a two-part special on the evening news on me. And, you know, I took them out to a tennis court and they shot me playing tennis badly. And, you know, we went to the office, did some stuff, did a sit-down interview. And then they followed me to the Bass show there that night because I read the, the footage got over of the,
Starting point is 02:47:18 Me walking down the hill to the locker rooms there at the stadium while the people are screaming, fuck you! They had to take a clip where there was no profanity in it. But it was just a two-part news report, like about an eight or nine-minute piece total, on Jim Cornett, the manager of the Midnight Express, famous Crockett Promot's Local Wrestling Superstar. I don't know what else to say. According to what was posted, it's from WPCQ-36. Oh, it was channel 36.
Starting point is 02:47:51 I thought it was channel 9. It's now WCNC. I thought that was a college. Well, this is the NBC. Oh, that's WNC as a whatever. Yes, see, that's the thing. Crockett had a television show at one time or another on almost every station in Charlotte.
Starting point is 02:48:13 So it was to their benefit to promote the wrestling also. We were on Channel 3. WBT is the biggest station and was at that time 40 years ago in Charlotte its reach was like 125 miles at every direction this was before cable and I think Crockett had used to have one of his main syndicated shows on it
Starting point is 02:48:38 but at the time that we were there I think that's where they had a 30 minute show like super bouts on Saturday nights as I recall on Channel 3 and then one syndicated show was on channel 36, another syndicated show, God damn it, I'm going to say was on 18, but he had like TV on like four of the six TV stations
Starting point is 02:49:05 in goddamn Charlotte. And one of them was an educational channel, so that probably wouldn't have worked anyway. You're watching PBS! All right, well, that answers that question. Again, the clips going around a lot right now. But Jim, speaking, are clips going around?
Starting point is 02:49:24 So is explosive diarrhea, but, you know, at least mine is more fun to watch. Well, speaking of explosive diarrhea, Jim, Dave Meltzer and Brian Alvarez are bickering again, and this is getting sent over to us by just about everybody in multiple forms, because they've released an official wrestling observer version of it, and Meltzer said what on Twitter,
Starting point is 02:49:48 put out an extended two-part, Is it a director's cut? Do you think that these mullet heads have just realized that the only entertaining thing about Dave is listening to him argue with Brian? So they're just doing this on purpose. But then again, Dave's not that convincing of a liar. He can't be that good. So they're just, Brian's at his wits end with him at this point. it's worth seeing the video
Starting point is 02:50:22 because the audio tells a lot of the story the video is remarkable Dave holds the microphone Dave doesn't have a microphone set down on anything Dave is just sitting and appears in a couch I know and he must have like goddamn no feeling in his
Starting point is 02:50:39 legs or hands he just sits there holding a handheld mic and never moves and the circulation problems alone this is causing him maybe what's at the root of his problems. But you could see frustration, and you could see at times he's just, he's holding that mic and he wants to say something, but Alvarez just sits back very comfortably. Again, it's all a video, and he just spits out what he's saying, and to the bigger point,
Starting point is 02:51:07 we'll review this audio. This is a topic you and I have discussed a lot. You've asked this question over and over and over again. Who's the baby face? Who's the heel? Isn't he a baby face? Isn't he a heel? Well, it turns out even the observers don't know.
Starting point is 02:51:23 Oh, good Lord. They can't tell. Let's go to this. We'll start with this audio. We'll break it up along the way as we review it from Wrestling Observer Radio, Meltzer, and Alvarez. Pern is a baby face, and on that same show, she began feuding with another baby face and acting like a heel. She should have just stayed heel. She's acting like Becky Lynch.
Starting point is 02:51:44 She's not a heel or a baby face. No, that's, Dave, that sucks. There are baby faces and heels. I can go down the whole roster and tell you who's a baby face and a heel. And guess what? Guess what? What's Roman Reins? He's a heel.
Starting point is 02:51:57 No, he's a heel. He's a baby face. He's a total heel. They like him, but he's a heel. Everyone cheers him. He's a baby face. What is L.A. Knight's a baby face. What's Cody Rhodes?
Starting point is 02:52:06 It's Gunther. Sammy Zane. Sammy Zane. Sam Hane. Finn Ballard. Babyface. Kevin Owens. C.M.
Starting point is 02:52:13 I can go all and on and on. Jay Uso. Jimmy U. show. Their heels now. No, they do a baby face. Let's stop it for a moment. There's a lot going on. It's not the fault of the
Starting point is 02:52:28 talent when they're being a heel and if people are cheering them anyway, at least they're trying to be what they're supposed to be, but people don't believe it. They know it's all bullshit anymore, so they just cheer everybody. But at least in the presentation you can tell over there kind of who the baby faces and heels are as far as who they're intended to be.
Starting point is 02:52:52 And I guess by the time we get to the end of this, you'll see, there's two big topics here. One is, is this in fact what's going on? And no one's a baby face and no one's a heel and everyone's in between. Secondly, just because it's being done and it's being done by modern wrestlers in modern times doesn't mean it's a good thing. Like it doesn't mean that, well, let's get there. Back to the aisle. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:53:17 They're absolutely healed. They're absolutely baby faces. No, they are not baby faces. Then why did they get beat up by the heel group? Because that's a heel versus heel feud. No, it's not. They're baby faces. They're going to be teaming with solo, they're going to be teaming with solo, who's now a baby face.
Starting point is 02:53:33 They are now, did you see Jay and Jimmy? That is a total baby face when they got beat up and you're left bleeding in the parking lot. You're absolutely a baby face. What do you think of that in terms of booking? Are you absolutely a baby face if you're left bleeding in the parking lot, even if you were a heel, let's say the previous segment on the last show? Well, here's the problem is that if it had been a hot, if it had been the four horsemen come in and beat the shit out of them, then they might be baby faces. But right now it's hoist keys and two guys that he found along the way as far as most people are concerned that just, came in and beat his shit out of two other assholes
Starting point is 02:54:19 that have been fucking around these other guys. So I think the Uso's are still heels and nobody gives a shit about hoist keys and his crew. But the previous main event, the Uso's versus solo in L.A. night, it was pretty clear who the baby faces. The Uso's were the heels.
Starting point is 02:54:40 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Let's go back to this. Let's ask AI. I don't care about what AI says. I'm definitely TV television. The Uso's are officially booked as heels. The crowd reactions have blurred the lines, however. Correct.
Starting point is 02:54:57 That's actually correct. No, it's not. Yes. It's ridiculous. When they were on the road at house shows, the Uso's, who did they wrestle? Bronbreaker and Obafemone. Who cares about the outshows? Braun Breaker and Austin Theory.
Starting point is 02:55:10 I'm sorry. Bronbreaker and Austin Theory. So what are they? Who cares about the house shows? They're heels. No, they're not. They were just big. They were beating up as baby faces.
Starting point is 02:55:20 If you watch the TV today, that role, they got beat up, they were left bloody, they were beaten with poles. I know. Again, back to that question. Are you inherently a baby face if that happens to you? No, maybe. Well, I can't even say that they got what they deserve because they don't really have enough heat. No, no. This is just a mess, honestly.
Starting point is 02:55:44 The Uso's and Roman reigns have been acting like heel. but to people like them because they don't care because it's all phony anyway. Having said that, these other heels come in and beat up the Uso's with pipes and sticks and forks and spoons, but to people didn't really care about that because they don't care about these other three people that came in and beat these guys up that were heels up until the time they started getting beat up. And then when Roman Reins comes in, he acts like a goddamn dick about the whole thing too anyway. So why do I care about any of these fucking people?
Starting point is 02:56:18 So now are they, so now they are baby faces. Now they are baby faces. They have not turned to baby face. But they are the baby face. Who's going to be, who, who is being booked as the baby face in this feud? There isn't one yet. It literally started last week. Well, now there is.
Starting point is 02:56:34 Now they are. Royce has got a new crew and he's very angry at the Uso's and so he killed them. Yeah. And Roman. Well, there's the end of the first. But he starts whining and every time Dave speaks. Well, Dave's whining a little bit. hearing this argument trying to get his word in.
Starting point is 02:56:51 That may be what's causing buddy to whine. He detects another animal whining and dismay. Well, we got more. Let's go back to this. And again, this is a big issue, I think, with modern wrestling. And it doesn't trace back to Cody Rhodes, but I always think, like, the big moment was Cody Rhodes putting out there a tweet intentionally. It was a very, like, rehearsed tweet.
Starting point is 02:57:12 You know what I mean? Like, he thought it through, like, I know what kind of reaction I'll get. about the boring old tropes like baby faces and heels. Yeah. You know, those aren't boring old tropes. Those are things that made American wrestling television special. You know what? When Vince Rousseau was trying to tell Dutchman tell 20 years ago,
Starting point is 02:57:32 ah, there's no baby faces and heels, bro. Dutch said, well, you know, there's actually a whole book about it. Vince, about baby faces and heels. You ought to read it sometime. Vince, what is it? He says, called the Bible. What a Russo say to that? He couldn't say anything because that's when he was going through his phase
Starting point is 02:57:53 where he was supposedly religious. I was going to say, was that before he was religious or was that in the middle of it? No, that was during that period of day. Yeah, you ought to read it sometimes. Call the Bible is full of good guys and bad guys. Well, let's go back to the man who writes the wrestling Bible, Dave Meltzer and Brian Alvarez going out at Wrestling Observer Radio, Baby Faces and Heels.
Starting point is 02:58:14 Roman told Jacob, who's clearly a baby face, to go take out those guys. Jacob is a baby face, that is true. And he's aligned with Roman. And he's aligned with the USOS. You're right. Just like when the bloodline were all heels and Sammy Zane was aligned with him. And he was clearly turning baby face. But meanwhile, Jacob had to lose a match and be forced into indentured servitude.
Starting point is 02:58:39 With the hope, I'm sure, that they figure when they break him loose again, that he'll still be a big-time baby face. But they're all baby faces now because they're feuding with, they're feuding with, get back to me in a week or two. Oh, I will get back to because I already know where they're going for Thanksgiving. Okay.
Starting point is 02:58:58 They're going to be the baby face in this feud. Are they going to have Chinese food? We'll see where it goes. We will see where it goes. Okay. Let's stop for a moment. There's more, but, uh, I just,
Starting point is 02:59:10 I already know where they're going for Thanksgiving. what a grandma's house maybe he's it just he's gotten more condescending hadn't he but i i digress he has but alvarez kind of has the elixir you know he he kind of knows how to fight back again it all goes back to the idea that just because it's happening doesn't mean it's good and you know there are plenty of examples and we'll let them continue in both companies now at this point where there are just some guys, Roman Reins is the big one in WWE, that act like heels,
Starting point is 02:59:46 that feud with baby faces, but get baby face reactions, and if there's one guy with that, okay, but if there's a lot of people just constantly, I hate to use the word tweeners, but they're just constantly ready to feud with anyone, no matter
Starting point is 03:00:03 who they are, for any reason, I don't think that's a good thing for wrestling. No, it's in. nonsense. It's who's the greatest in the world or who's the best or whatever. No, you need personal issues, animosity. Somebody has to cheat and lie and steal. Somebody's got to stand up for what's right. White hat, black hat, and white hat wins in the end. That's this classic wrestling description. And besides that, I've said this before. It's consistency and it's,
Starting point is 03:00:35 you can't have guys come out like, like Kenny. We're three weeks ago, like I said, he was golly gosh, Jarn, G. Whiz, and now he's maniacal like a fucking Batman villain. It doesn't make sense. It makes it all fake. The way that top stars have always gotten over and stayed over is that they would not do things that were out of, character for them to do.
Starting point is 03:01:09 And then when you would have the, the rare turn, you know, where the guy switches from baby-faced heel or vice versa, there would be some kind of build with some kind of reason. The fans would understand that there was some tension and something happened, whether it was a fight over a fucking belt or money or a woman or glory or whatever the fuck it was. Now you can't just,
Starting point is 03:01:41 tonight I'll play the heel. I'll be the bad guy. So you can be the good guy. And then next week, I'll be the good. You can't do that because the fans, uncertainty breeds ambivalence. If they're going to get behind you and support you as a baby face, even if you're trying to fight fire with fire, you can't go out there and kick people. and the balls and grab their testicles and try to gouge their eyeballs out.
Starting point is 03:02:13 And conversely, if you're trying to get some goddamn heat, you can't out-wrestle the baby face and clearly beat him without cheating or any kind of out because then, well, why are you a bad guy? You're the better wrestler. You don't need to cheat. Fuck this other guy. I'm behind you. It's just goddamn human nature and psychology.
Starting point is 03:02:37 and these fucking dipshit nerds that are the only ones left that want to be wrestlers because the standard wrestler these days is such a fucking douchebag pussy, they all want to just do fucking cool moves and have fun with their friends. And that's why we're in the position we're in.
Starting point is 03:02:59 I'm sorry, what was the question? And we'll go back to this audio in a second. We're still reviewing this, but to that point, Osprey and Omega, I like the match. But I don't think Kenny Omega suddenly becoming a heel
Starting point is 03:03:13 helped the match. No. Like it didn't do anything that, I hate to say it should have been a baby face versus baby face match, but I think that's kind of what was set up perfectly. We didn't need a two-week maniacal heel run. I like that.
Starting point is 03:03:28 That should be the name of a punk band, two-week maniacal heel run. What do you think, buddy? Buddy's still sitting on my lap. Before everyone starts puking, Let's go back to this audio. Right now, Roman's a baby face, you know, as he's acting like a total heel against L.A. Knight.
Starting point is 03:03:43 But he's a baby face. Yeah, because he's, because he's a, because it doesn't matter with Roman Raines and Becky Lynch, they're doing, they're basically doing their thing of it's all situational. When he's going against Roy's keys, he's a baby face. When he's going against L.A. night, he's going to be, in theory, he'll, but guess what, he's still going to get cheered more than L.A. night most of the time. So the fans, to the fans, to the fans,
Starting point is 03:04:06 fancies a baby face. The fancies to the fan... Let me just stop it for a second. As someone who spends a great deal of time working on the audio for all my programs and always has, it takes a good deal of pride and making sure that our shows sound good.
Starting point is 03:04:22 Dave's lips smacking and second area with the mic. Listening on headphones, it's rough. It's just very like... He's a little wet, didn't he? Oh my God. Oh my God. Back to this. And he's the biggest star. That's for sure. And so he gets the biggest star reaction.
Starting point is 03:04:43 And he gets cheered more than anyone in the entire company. By far right now, I mean, who's bigger? Not Cody. And that would be the other one, not Randy Orton. By the way, Randy Orton always gets cheered too, you know. Punk. Do not tell me Randy Orton supposed to be a... Well, punk's a clear baby face. You can't argue that he's really a heel at all right now. The question was, who's more popular? Who gets cheered? more than Roman Reigns. And the answer is punk. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 03:05:09 And he won't say punk's name. Interesting. I didn't even pick up on that, but good catch there. You're a baby face right now. No, he's a heel right now. He's a heel right now. But right after Cody, they might turn him right back baby face. They might.
Starting point is 03:05:22 Just like Kenny Omega. Kenny Omega is a baby face. And Kenny Omega is a baby face now. But he was a heel against World Osprey because that's what the role called for. Absolutely. He turned heel. Don't tell me he was a baby face in the last month with Osprey. He was the heel.
Starting point is 03:05:35 He teamed with the Young Bucks his baby faces in a match. That was completely bizarre. That was completely bizarre. No, it's not because it's how it's booked. It's like, I know it's how it was bizarre. Because literally on one show,
Starting point is 03:05:48 on one show, Brian, he was a heel of the making of the show. He then worked. Let me stop it for a second. It's not bizarre. It's how it was booked. What is that excuse?
Starting point is 03:05:58 It was booked bizarre. They were partners because everybody, Everybody has figured out by now they're friends and they just want to play with each other and it doesn't matter what's good for the program or the promotion. They just always throw those knitwits together so they can jump around.
Starting point is 03:06:18 Jump around. It doesn't mean it makes sense. Let's go back to this. We have a little more audio. Marked as a baby face and then came out and did a heel angle at the end of the hill killing the top guy at Wembley. This is 2026.
Starting point is 03:06:33 wrestling. At the top of the card, at the top of the card, you're going to have, because the top guys are very often baby faces. And that's where Meltzer said, what's audio cut off? But the observer posted their official version of it. So let's go back and pick up this audio right from where we left off. That when you have a baby face versus baby face match, one of the guys will be a heel for the match, for the program, but they are not necessarily heels. Look at swir. Oh, good Lord. Swerve? Yeah, look at Swerve. He's been a baby face at a heel 16 times,
Starting point is 03:07:06 which is why nobody gives his shit anymore. He went from terrorizing babies to fucking standing up for the rights of the common man and back again. And here's another thing. You can be a subtle heel. You can show that you need to dig a little deeper and maybe take a shortcut when you're in the match
Starting point is 03:07:29 with the other baby face. That's the subtle heel. Who was doing that the other day? punk punk was doing it remember in fucking Toronto with Owens but that didn't mean that punk then when the referee was down went outside the ring grabbed a fucking screwdriver and tried to stab Owens in the eye because that wouldn't be natural for the person
Starting point is 03:07:52 that he is portrayed to be to do and again the argument this is modern wrestling this philosophy yeah that now there's the argument Modern wrestling, that's why it's completely fucking shot to hell, because none of this shit makes any sense. And these indie-minded nitwits that grew up listening to Uncle Dave before he got Alzheimer's even. They can't figure it out.
Starting point is 03:08:15 That's what the problem with modern wrestling is. Well, let's finish it up with their talk about swerve here. A swerve is a total heel. Not anymore. Not anymore. He's not. Probably not that he's aligned with the new day, but he was absolutely a heel up until,
Starting point is 03:08:30 Sunday. That's right. You need to return because it's situational. Now because of his partners, now he is a baby face. What's Roman Rand? That's the end. Okay, now wait a minute. So you're telling me that if Charles Manson came to court with two nuns and a preacher from the prison and announced that he had reformed because he comes in with nice guys, he's a baby face. I'm not telling you that. That's what Dave's telling me. Dave may be telling you that. As long as you hang out with nice people, then it doesn't matter what you've done instantly, you're okay again. Well, again, that's the end of the audio, and it's fun to laugh at them bickering.
Starting point is 03:09:14 Again, the video of Dave at one point shaking the mic just because he has so much to say. But I think it highlights a bigger issue. They may not be talking about it like it's a problem, but I think it's a problem. You know, I always say that AW could do whatever they want on dynamite. It doesn't matter. The fan's going to buy the pay-per-view based off seeing Omega versus Osprey, as opposed to, wow, they really talk me into wanting to see this. Yeah, if the TV had any effect on business one way or the other,
Starting point is 03:09:47 then by now, you know, as rotten as it's been for as long as it's been, they'd be out of business. So I think the people watch the TV to see these nitwits and overlook the stupidity and just want to see the matches. I bet AEW is a lot more enjoyable if you just watch the paper views. If you just did that? I don't know if I'd go that far. Well, again, I don't know.
Starting point is 03:10:10 Maybe the same amount of time as a month worth of TVs, I don't know. But I think the idea that there are no baby faces and heels and that guys can situationally, makes me think it's a situation comedy, that they could just all a sudden, Kenny Omega, turn heel. Swerve was a vicious heel and now he's a smiling, happy guy again with a dancing manager. I mean, just what the fuck? I don't like this idea that everything's situational. This is maybe something I worked in Japan in the past, but I don't think, again, for American
Starting point is 03:10:44 wrestling TV, which is something that American wrestling company seem to be getting away from as far as they can, just what worked and what didn't, what kind of, whatever. No baby faces and heels. That's smart. Yeah. That's, well, again, it's Japan because they culturally don't like people that have personal issues to begin with as much as we do. They don't like to have arguments over. They're very polite people. So it evolved differently. But, you know, goddamn, they eat fucking monkey brains in Tibet or whatever. I don't, I'm sorry. cultures are different. I'm glad they like Japanese wrestling. Don't try to do it here. It don't work.
Starting point is 03:11:31 Well, Jim, the good thing now is that no matter where you are in the world, you can be a well-versed wrestling fan. What I mean is you can watch various shows, no matter what streaming platform they are on worldwide. If you're in the States and you have trouble with one, you can maybe find a way to say you're in Canada. And actually, we may know someone who can help them with this wonderful vacation, our friends at Surfshark. Well, many Americans would like to move to Canada these days with the advantages they have versus what we've got going on here. But if you'd like to move virtually, just to try it out and at least see if you can watch
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Starting point is 03:13:06 That's what I'm trying to say. You sign up for Surfshark at surfshark.com and you use the code JCE and you get four extra months. And that way, let's, that's Survivor Series. that's whatever the hell they're doing in December, that's the Royal Rumble. Just right there, holy mackerel. So once again, if you're like everybody in the world except me and you don't mind the streaming stuff
Starting point is 03:13:34 and you want to see what you want to see without paying through the teeth for it, surf shark is the way to go. Brian, you can just get the surf shark and then he can just take those razor sharp fangs and rip through all of the red tape and get you to where you want to be. Do you have to be in Canada?
Starting point is 03:13:57 Maybe you could even be in Trinidad or some South Sea Island. Sarajevo? Azerbaijan. The way you do and you'll clean it up. But nevertheless, there are many of these streaming services. So many I can't name.
Starting point is 03:14:15 They're all over the place. They're just, we're infested, with them. You've got to have somebody be able to navigate this thing and also to let you know that you're in good hands when you're trying to tell people that you live in Winnipeg when you really live in Delray Beach, Florida. Right? I didn't want people to know I was in Delray, but yeah. Well, I'm not talking about, I'm talking the Royal U. Oh, not just U specifically, but all the U's out there, these two U's out there, all. To my cousin Vinnie references in like three weeks.
Starting point is 03:14:52 Hey, I'm just telling you, I'm a Vinny fan. But folks, once again, don't, don't be left out and don't pay through the teeth. Don't let these wrestling promotions, these multi-billion dollar entities, take all of your money. Just go to surfshark.com. Use the code JCE for four extra months on top of what you sign up for. And they'll let you unlock the door to the promised land of watching a bunch of things that For whatever reason, greed is preventing you from accessing here in the United States. Watch all your wrestling on your terms.
Starting point is 03:15:28 I don't know why I'm doing this like Rick Flair. Watch all your wrestling on your terms. Surf Shark. With capital letters in the front of every word. We're very good friends at Surf Shark one more time. Jim, that promo code for a great deal for the listeners. Surfshark.com slash J-C-E. All right, and now it's time for our final presentation here today, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 03:15:56 Questions and more return next week. I see a few songs have come in, but we're going to end on this note. On your show, on the experience, Jim, we recently reviewed audio of the former Velveteen dream, Patrick Clark, at a press conference for a company called Dual Arena. and it was by far the biggest shit show of a press conference we've ever heard the audio of it was amazing it was amazing in its preposterosity apparently the event
Starting point is 03:16:32 the shit show continued and it turned into just a monsoon of shit the shit monsoon let me put buddy down for this shit monsoon yeah hopefully he doesn't create one of his own on your rug. Holy mackerel. But Jim, there was a lot going on with this event.
Starting point is 03:16:53 We've heard a lot of feedback from people about the things that weren't the Velvetine Dreams fight. But we're going to start with that. Well, and I told you, I've got some questions, and I was hoping you were able to search the Internet and find the answers to some of these questions because this entire thing, what made like the classic,
Starting point is 03:17:16 Remember that San Francisco Cow Palace wrestling show and fan fest like 20 years ago that turned into a event. It was MMA guys and wrestlers and about 150 guys were booked. And then a bunch of people didn't even get tickets and the ones that were there didn't get paid. The MMA people were pulling guns and trying to find people. That'll look like WrestleMania next to this fucking fiasco. I have never heard of who the promotion that was. was putting it on. I don't know who the guy that was that was running it. I don't know how that he convinced anybody honest. There were a couple of professional fighters on this thing.
Starting point is 03:17:59 I don't know how it was marketed or sold to them. And then they just apparently got a bunch of fucking Yehus off the street. Because the guy that Velveteen Dream was fighting is a podcaster with a background, I quote, from the Internet in the adult film industry. And the only reason that, you know, he was fighting was apparently because he's got an audience. That's why I said earlier, I said 20 years ago, they could have done me and Rousseau and actually drawn some money. But none of these people were, nobody involved with this was qualified for the position they were in. promoter, fighters, all except for the poor announcer,
Starting point is 03:18:46 and he apologized. So I... By the way, that's not a joke. Apparently this guy's been on several sites, including our YouTube videos, saying that he had nothing to do with this. He didn't know what kind of shit show. He didn't know what kind of shit show this was going to be.
Starting point is 03:19:02 And so, first of all, as you mentioned, with the dreams fight, he had, I say the dream, the velveteen dreams. he entered, his entrance music was Dolly Parton's 9 to 5.
Starting point is 03:19:18 What a heel. Now, again, but that's the thing is that, I mean, she, was he supposed to be the heel? He was trying to defend himself as a baby face at the press conference. But why would you do that? And the only reason that the people weren't throwing shit at him is because there was absolutely no reaction to, him, the music, or anything else, because from what I could tell, there were no people in this arena. The only people that you could see are like the fighters, you know, walkout contingent and the ringside personnel. And then the building is dark, but every once in a while, you can
Starting point is 03:20:02 make out one person with a light colored shirt sitting in a section all by himself. So it was just it was like they were doing this in the backyard for practice except it's a major fucking building right and they've already had people write the arena and ask if they're going to or call or whatever people do these days are you going to have this shit again more Nazis and there were Nazis actual like not you're a Nazi but no I I'm saying I'm a Nazi type of Nazi that's the thing the word Nazi gets thrown around so easily now that sometimes you have to really specify these are declared Nazis
Starting point is 03:20:45 these are actual. It's not other people and they're saying it about themselves. It's not an accusation. It's an admission. And so they, what is the name of the building, the arena? It's the... We're in Orlando, Florida,
Starting point is 03:21:00 where I know Florida has a reputation for letting anybody do any stupid thing, but... It is the Kia Center. That's... don't the big ball teams play there? What is the, what is the capacity? Let me find that out right now.
Starting point is 03:21:19 Because that's the, it was like a pisshole in a snowbank. You had the, the ring, which again, we heard they were going to have a cage, but then it was a ring with five ropes. And that was lit up. And they tried to throw all the light on the ring because you didn't want to see any of the arena, any of the seats, because there, there were no people, Jerry. Where about the people? 18,000 for NBA.
Starting point is 03:21:46 Aye, aye, aye. Has anybody reported an attendance figure? What about Russell texts? Did they branch out and cover this? Oh, I don't think they did, but let me double check that. I'm going to say the attendance figure was 250, and that may be patent it. And so he comes while you're checking. Not cover this extravaganza.
Starting point is 03:22:09 Well, you know, point is, if anybody wants to go online, keep listening to us, but try to find a quoted attendance figure. But so dip shit comes out to nine to five. The opponent comes out. There's no reaction to him. Either he is being led by a midget and costumed ballet dancers. And the only reason that I didn't stop to do a double take was because. Remember, Dream accused this guy of having some kind of irrational relationship with a midget, but this was a male midget rather than the female midget that we still believe tiny smalls must be.
Starting point is 03:22:58 So then the introductions and got no reaction. And Patrick Clark, he looks great. You would be convinced he's in wonderful physical condition. I'm pretty sure he's strong enough because he's got a nice upper body that he could hit hard if he tried and knew how. But there was absolutely, how would you even go through, he's obviously never been in an actual fight, a fight, fight of any kind. But how would you go through wrestling training and not know any more about what to do if somebody, if you're trying to really fight somebody? I think you're being too hard on him. I just don't think you,
Starting point is 03:23:45 maybe you just haven't seen a lot of modern fights where people punch with both hands at the same time. Well, see, those weren't even punches. That was just more like, oh, please get away from me. Stay back. But he had nothing, no concept of what to do. And the other guy
Starting point is 03:24:06 was just some tattooed up dumb fuck that had no physique whatsoever and has never fought or done anything but he was trying he was at least trying because it looked like Patrick was scared from the get-go and his hacksaw butch reed used to say if you're scared say you're scared if you're a mouse squeak well Ryan Poundall now came out swinging like it really seemed like he really did want to hit this guy yeah I think and I think he might have been telling a truth you yeah, I just want to fucking hit this guy because he's a piece of shit. But then again, you know, that's like picking a turd up by the clean end
Starting point is 03:24:48 because this guy was allegedly improperly engaged with a fucking midget. I don't know. So the only time I heard, they booed when Patrick Clark there was a break and he threw the punch on the break. It was like a cheap shot in a wrestling match. and then at the end of round one they go in a clinch it looked like Clark was just trying to duck down dream whatever VD ducked down and grab him so he couldn't hit him and he bare hugged him and pushed him all the way through the ropes out onto the announce table and that was the end of round one and then they started round two and what's a power
Starting point is 03:25:36 now fucking pickled him once and he front face locked the guy VD did and then a second time he ducked out through the ropes like a fucking heel in a wrestling match with a referee get him back and and that got some booze too I think from the fucking ringside officials where the old one's booing and then there was a flurry and another clinch and VD tried to hip toss him and got docked to point by the referee. I didn't know because I don't think it's ever happened before in boxing. You can be docked to point for trying to hip toss. Brian wins the last time that happened.
Starting point is 03:26:20 Was that between John L. Sullivan and William Muldoon? I don't know. Maybe Roddy Piper and Mr. T. I'm not sure. It could have been. That could have been. And then there was a flurry and old VD shoves. the guy back into the ropes and through the ropes and the referee disqualified him.
Starting point is 03:26:42 And that's obviously, I guess what he was trying to do was just fuck around and long enough to figure out some way the referee would save him without him ever actually getting hit because there was no on either side. There was no damage done here unless one guy balked his head when they went through the ropes. But it, there was nothing. But of course, that was the theme of the show. And it wasn't even the worst thing on the show. But they do the bring them to the middle and announce the winner.
Starting point is 03:27:16 And O.V.D. refused the handshake. And then they flipped each other off. And then when they got Dream out of there, then a pow now did a promo as, hey, kids, beware. He's on the loose. I'm like, what the fuck? he's a good promo i like him what do you think the people at the arena thought is that the the arena equivalent of being a cheap
Starting point is 03:27:45 whore doing anal for no tip in an alley i don't think so because i know what else was on this show this may have been like you know no i mean just hosting this whole event the entire event someone should lose a job someone to lose their job for booking this event For a major arena in a major metropolitan city to, for any amount of money, rent themselves out to this, I would think would be embarrassing. And they're getting killed in the local media in Orlando. Also, this is extraordinary in terms of just racism on the loose.
Starting point is 03:28:22 Dual Arena tweeted out a picture or an image of Patrick Clark giving Ryan Poundall now the finger during the decision. during the decision. And they wrote Dual Arena would I have to apologize for ever having platformed the classless, disqualified chimp, Patrick Clark Jr.
Starting point is 03:28:42 Oh! And will promise to do better by its fighters in the future. Big congratulations to Ryan Palinow for his magnificent victory. They called him a chimp. Well, the next thing they tweeted out, or at least that was sent
Starting point is 03:28:57 here to us, they responded to someone with an image of Patrick Clark saying actual monkey. So they doubled down on chimp and went with that. That is wild. Well, they had booked the Nazis. Yeah, but did you hear who the Nazi fought? Who did the Nazi fight? The Nazi who is apparently a, what's his name here?
Starting point is 03:29:25 His name is, what's Nazi's name? Paul Miller, but he goes by Gypsy Crusader. And he fought against, do I have the other guy's name? I have the info. It's an Israeli kickboxer who was convicted of oral copulation with a minor. So it was a pedophile Jewish fighter
Starting point is 03:29:50 against a Nazi, like an actual Nazi Nazi. Again, that was on this show. And when's the last time that there was a card or a show or anything There were there were multiple accused pedophiles on the card that also were brought attention to by the press conference by the exact promotion. They didn't try to cover it up.
Starting point is 03:30:16 They aired it out at the fucking promotion for the show. So they're trying to sell tickets to Nazis and pedophiles. Actually, I'm surprised in Orlando. know they didn't have a bigger crowd. And then again, when they look for a way out of that and they went to the next fight, that guy said he would just fuck everyone. There was no winning in this. And I got to say something, but I'm going to give you a warning.
Starting point is 03:30:40 I told you, I was going to ask you about who this dick lick is that owns this fucking thing. Oh, man. But I got to talk about the last fight because the last fight of the night. After the Nazi. After the Nazi and the whole thing was apparently between a guy, hold on, buddies try to chew my cord to my headphones. You're going to knock Daddy off the air. You might make money with that from somebody.
Starting point is 03:31:03 Let go. Oh, don't pull that that hard. Okay. The last fight was a guy in a SpongeBob outfit fighting what looked to be a middle-aged Japanese businessman in a suit and tie wearing big white boxing gloves where it looked, the SpongeBob guy was trying to fuck this guy up.
Starting point is 03:31:26 And the businessman looked like he was, had been marched in there at gunpoint and forced to do this. He was confused. He didn't know where he was. He kept getting knocked down, falling down, trying to escape. And SpongeBob would jump on him. And that's when the announcer was actually, oh, this is hard to watch. Oh, thank God, this is over.
Starting point is 03:31:49 And he was meaning it. And so that was. again, that was on the card. It wasn't like these are sponsors. They booked this somehow. Who and the opening fight? That's why I was going to ask you about who the opening fight apparently was the owner of this shit show, the promoter. Well, they said that, but I can't find out who was information.
Starting point is 03:32:16 Well, if they, if the announcer said it, one would think it was true. But the point is, the promoter is a guy that looks like he's five, five, put eight and 120 pounds and fishy white and has the physique of a child and he was fighting another midget. He actually fought the midget. I think you're making this guy a little bigger than he looked. When I first saw this, when I was just going through
Starting point is 03:32:42 looking for the Velveteen dream match, I thought it was a child versus a little person. And I couldn't believe that that sanctioned or not was taking place in the States. And then I realized it's not a child. It's somehow a grown man, but he's not fully grown, or he had the wrong milk. Just something's off. Was he born before they took the lead out of paint?
Starting point is 03:33:08 He had like a third nipple. Like, there was something going on with this guy. Oh, I'm glad I didn't watch on a screen big enough to detect that. Yeah, I mean, you know, you didn't really miss much not seeing that little thing, but... So who is this guy? Where did he get enough money to do this? I don't know. Is this like what was his name?
Starting point is 03:33:31 The guy that won the lottery and fucking started the girls wrestling company or old Gordon Scazzari that got an inheritance and but this guy wanted to do whatever this was, MMA boxing,
Starting point is 03:33:44 Naziism? Hold on, who owns duel? All my shit just got knocked over. Okay, I thought that was thunder. No, it's, but he got his foot tangled up in my headphone court. Okay, you go back down. Uh, duel.
Starting point is 03:34:04 It says here it's owned by someone else who's not that, uh, weird looking man. I don't know. This seems to be a mysterious thing. Who owns dual? Who is, who is doing this? Somebody, the officials, some regulatory agency or law enforcement official needs to know. Apparently, there's a guy who. name Asi Monarch
Starting point is 03:34:28 Ketola He's the owner of Dual Casino. Is this dual casino? If it ain't, then boy, he needs to call his lawyer because he's going to be plastered with this drek. And then Jim and I look
Starting point is 03:34:44 for who the promoter is. It says here, Dean Tool is the promoter. The promoter is a tool. I've heard that before. Where are you coming up with all these names? Why is this? Who is the promoter? But that's what I'm so.
Starting point is 03:34:58 Why is it so hard to find out who's behind this thing? Are they hiding on purpose? We need to know who the dip shit is that's got this much money to burn to book Nazis and pedophiles and people in SpongeBob outfits and have the most objectionable show in the history of combat sports.
Starting point is 03:35:22 We need to know who's behind this. Yeah, we'll see what else we can find out and of course if anyone knows where else the velveteen dream will be on a microphone please let us know you know and i will close with that comment that somebody is hiding here there's somebody that put a lot of i would say an arena like that it would be a minimum six figure rental to book the date secure it and have the permits necessary and all that stuff just to do a tv then you've got a production on top of that once you've rented the arena. Then whatever promotion they did, I don't know if that cost anything.
Starting point is 03:36:06 Did these people get paid that were on the card? Were they offered money? Or did they just come and do it? Because they're all nuts. But this was a goddamn six-figure undertaking for absolutely no goddamn return whatsoever. And I want to know who's crazy enough to spend that much money on something that even Tony Kahn would have been a shame to present. Well, we'll see what else we can find out,
Starting point is 03:36:31 and we'll see if they ever get to book their second event. You know, Dennis Caruso one night called me up with a dream of a tag team feud between Nazis and Vietnamese. But we never got to see it play out. Maybe Duel Arena can conquer that offensive material next. But Jim, with that. Yes. And this, the drive-through is closed.
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