Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru - Episode 461

Episode Date: September 19, 2026

This week on the Drive Thru, Jim reviews CM Punk vs. Sami Zayn on Smackdown, Omos vs. Rey Mysterio at TripleMania, and WWE Raw! Plus Jim talks about Ilja Dragunov joining AEW, Ric Flair's latest tweet, Pat Tanaka's travel adventure, Jamie Dundee's ignorance, pinning a bear, and much more! Thanks to our episode sponsors: PRIZEPICKS:  Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/JCE and use code JCE and get $150 if you win your first $5 lineup! ULTRA:  Don’t sleep on @ultrapouches. New customers get 15% Off with code JCE at takeultra.com! #UltraPouches #ad HEXCLAD:  Find your forever cookware @hexclad and get 10% off at hexclad.com/JCE! #hexcladpartner Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: [e-mail]  Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast Merch! https://arcadianvanguard.com/ Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! https://www.patreon.com/Cornette Subscribe to the Official Jim Cornette channel on YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/c/OfficialJimCornette Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more! You can listen to Brian on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com or wherever you find your favorite podcasts!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What was that? No boy. He's using a hammer today, first. Yeah. I know you were saying something. I won't find out until editing. Hello again, friends, and you are our friends. Welcome back to another edition of Jim Cornett's Drive-Thru

The Wrestling and Music Spectacular. You look forward to each and every week. I'm your host, The Great Brian Last. Fun is guaranteed today with the show. man, the leader of the cult of Cornett, Mr. Jim Cornett. Yeah, Brian on that organ solo, when you got to the part that usually drives the steak and the vampire's heart, instead it kind of got strangled. It sounded like somebody had squeezed the balls of an Afghan hound. That was for you. That was a special version today, just for you, because

you always screech when I go for a high note there. Yeah, well, you went for a low road there. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're Welcome, by the way. Yeah, I don't recall thanking you, but I'm sure that just got left out accidentally. I've got a lot of anxiety. You give me the anxiety there with the organ playing, the anxiety. We've now, we talked about it a couple days ago. They've said that the AI is going to kill us all.

Human race will be extinct because the AI is smarter than it is. and as you reflect on things as a whole, it would be hard to find anything that's not smarter than the human race. And then Brian, Arriba, Amigo, we have been watching wrestling from Mexico,

W.D.W.E. style for quite extensively over the last couple of days. And one of the, I got anxiety from seeing the, the drone, shots of Mexico City. When they have the drone shots of New York, at least there's there's like water right there's some end to the goddamn just plethora of just buildings and city and population.

Well, Manhattan's an island. Well, but no man is an island, Brian. But in Mexico City, it just goes on forever. They couldn't widen back far enough to get away from the word. you see that there's something else besides city. And they, and Michael Cole, and I know, of course, he's, you know, I guess he's as good as the encyclopedia of Britannica as far as referencing world facts, but 22 million people, there are 22 million people in Mexico City, not in Mexico,

in Mexico City. Does that sound correct to you? That's why there's a lot of Lucha shows. they have a lot of fans well fuck how would you find them that's my point you've seen me in new york so what is new york city like 10 million 12 million just a little bit more than bug tussle what you're up there amongst that what is the population up there i'm looking it up for you right now according to the you don't know where the how many people are in the the immediate area that you live in I was giving you a survey exact number instead of guessing off the top of my head because I care about thoroughness.

You're bad with due points too, but go ahead. Well, that's neither here nor there or in the air. But Jim, according to the 2025, I can't speak English all of a sudden, ladies and gentlemen, the U.S. Census Bureau, as of July 2025, New York City has an estimated population of 8.5 million people. Jesus, it's even worse. So that means that Mexico City is almost three times bigger in terms of the amount of people in it than New York City. And it says here greater metro area, and I don't know if that is the traditional area here, which would be Long Island and Connecticut and North Jersey, but here it says that would make it 20.1 million. Oh, good Lord.

Well, that's even worse than when I was there. You would have think in the last 30 years they'd have figured out a way to get rid of some of them people. So the big, I don't know what's worse, but I'll tell you what, that just gives me anxiety because there's no easy way to get from point A to point B. I've talked about this before, that I need an escape route.

I need a way home that I can clearly see. And when you go into the downtown part of city, the goddamn stumbling blocks and obstacles in your way grow exponentially. All of a sudden, somebody else might have you the keys to your fucking vehicle in their pocket. And all of you might be parked three blocks from the hotel that you're staying in, which requires you to get in an elevator and traverse 30, 40 floors and to get to the ground to find a way to get to the garage, to find the guy, to get your keys,

to get in the fucking truck, to get the fuck out of there. And then when you get out of there, where the fuck are you getting out of there? Then you've got the city with the traffic and the lights and the pedestrians. You've seen me in New York City. So if I need Xanax for New York, I would need Propafall for Mexico City. I've walked with you in New York City. I have driven you. in New York City and

I'm a very good driver. I'm very confident in my skills, but I would never want to drive you again because you made me so worried that I was going to get into a car accident. Oh, good Lord. Well, it's just, it's imminent. You got mad when I yelled at a cab driver.

I remember that. He could have fucking had a goddamn gun or a hand grenade or something. You never know about these people up there. I'm telling you, but I wouldn't be surprised if somebody was driving a tank down the street up there because it's just a guy.

damn free for all. But whether driving or walking or the public transportation that they talk of up there or whatever you can't, it's a chore to go anywhere of any distance at all whatsoever in these places. And it just, it gives me anxiety.

I need a clear, if I decide I'm just going to go home, I want a clear, unobstructed path. Hey, I got some New York City news for you. Okay. Yesterday, I believe, or maybe it's today, reopening after, it's got to be close to 10 years, the Carnegie Deli. What?

Yeah. Who is it a new, obviously, it would have to be a new person operated, right? Because that family went down in flames of scandal and fraud. It's the daughter of the woman who was previously running it, who was the daughter of the previous, you know, man who ran it, I believe. And she was, there was some kind of thing with her and her ex-husband and who knows what. Weren't they stealing electricity?

Didn't they wire themselves into somebody else and like hijack six figures worth of electric power from the city or whatever? Oh, I don't know. I will definitely look into that. That's fascinating. I think there was, there was some of that. There was a variety of scandalous behavior going on

with not paying taxes and doing things of that nature, as I recall. Well, the daughter has brought it back. I believe they had a mail order business or they were in some stores, but has brought back the actual location. It's one block away from where it was in the former location of the stage deli, which is also another deli that went out of business within the last 15 years. What happened with all these fucking great delis? They just all of a sudden, boom, boom, boom, they're gone.

They got priced out. That's expensive real estate. well you know speaking of expensive and priced out now last time i'd have been at carnegie deli would have been 2012 right the last time i probably was in new york city so at that point in time and i've talked about this on the show but it's been a while obviously but if that's what after a ring of honor show i hadn't eaten in 18 hours or whatever we would go there and i would order a couple of things on the menu. And when you order a couple of things on the menu at Carnegie Deli, you're ordering food for six people. Because like the pastrami sandwich or the

Rubin had two pounds of meat on it. Am I lying? It was that that was literally... You would see the prices and you go, holy shit, that's ridiculous. And then you'd see the sandwich and there would be no way you could physically finish it. It would be impossible. Well, for most people, except Jim Cordette at that point in his life, maybe. Well, But see, also, that's the thing. It was like it was $21 for a Rubin, but this was in 2012. And you would see that,

you would go, but then when you would see it, most people would take at least half of it home. They might share it. The burger, the burger was a one pound fucking burger, the size of a goddamn 45 RPM record around and thick and had like six or eight pieces of bacon on it or whatever. That was $22.

But that was 15 years. years ago, what now if they are keeping the same flavor of the Carnegie Deli in the same tradition and the same sizes? What would you need to fucking charge? Well, I don't know. I'm looking at their online website. I'm trying to see if they actually have. Do they admit publicly to their prices or do they have to get you in a joint first and

then you find out? I don't see prices. I don't see prices. Yeah. But boy, howdy, I'll tell you what it was. It was fun to see if you could mow through. That was my favorite. You've been there, and I would get a Rubin and a burger and eat pretty much most of the

Rubin and much of the burger or vice versa and take a little bit home, but it was just, it was lovely with fries. Go ahead. I got the menu. Ah. Pastrami on rye, $29. That's not. Bad considering fucking cold cuts is twice the price that it was at least back then.

I mean, if you actually want to eat it like a sandwich, you would literally have to take out the middle of it and just save that for another separate sandwich or two. Yeah, no, because you can't get your mouth open. Well, once again, most people can't get their mouth open that far. So pastrami's 29, corned beef, beef, tongue 28, turkey 28, and then a drop. $24 for salami, roast beef 27, the Rubin, $31. Jesus. See, I got expensive taste.

The Carnegie Deli Colossus is 40. That's pastrami, corned beef, turkey, Swiss coleslaw, Russian dressing on rye. Wow. And they got good Russian dressing, too, which is just really nice Thousand Island, but it's... No, but good Russian dressing. is a big thing. Yeah, this is great. I'm good. I'm so hungry looking at this right now. Do they

have catfish? No, of course not. This is a... Catfish and hush puppies on the menu. What's the matter with them? They're losing out on a big revenue stream. Catfish is more popular than wrestling in some circles. And you know, this location that's bringing back, they actually had like all... I don't know if there was like a CBGB thing where they kept the

walls, but they have like all the original photos, all the original tables, like all the original stuff from the previous location. I would think they'd think they could take the pictures down without bringing the walls with them, though. CBGBs, that's what they said. They literally took the walls down for the idea they would rebuild it at one point in the future. But did you get your picture on the wall?

I don't remember. I don't know. Because I remember they recognized you there. I just don't remember. I almost feel like you and Stacey may have. at some point there was something, but I don't remember now. I have, I at some point have promised someone because we wouldn't like we would have walked in with pictures under our arm, but at some time have promised someone that I would send them a picture.

Was it to Carnegie Deli? I don't know. If now, if they've got all the pictures up, then somebody can go in and reconnoiter and see if, see if I'm up there. I'm at the pizza place in Blue Springs, Missouri. I'm up on that wall. I can tell you that. All right. French toast $21, but I bet it's really good. Well, this has been the any more city population talk, Jim, this has been simply.

I knew French toast had to come into it some kind of way, but that's the thing, but it was a, the Carnegie Deli was an enjoyable oasis in a scene of panic. and at time that me and Stace took were by ourselves we took the cab over there I had to fucking walk it off for 10 minutes I had a panic I was telling him brother I will give you a larger tip if you will slow the fuck down

and it was like every block he would the red light he would floor it like his Mario Andretti trying to fucking win a drag race and get up to 50 miles an hour in the middle of the block and then slam on his fucking brakes and even though it's one in the morning still. And he would not list that. That's the only cab driver I've ever encountered in New York or anywhere

that for more money would not do something. So I gave him no tip whatsoever. And fucking stood around and walked a fucking, and then I said after we got out of there, rather than getting a cab again, I said, it's a nice night, let's walk a bit. And we walked back to the hotel. What was that?

40 fucking blocks. they're getting another one of them son of a bitchies the thing was too you didn't know the new york you had come to new york for crockett you had come to new york for the wf but by the time you were coming more regularly with ring of honor your exposure was mostly midtown manhattan yes that's why that time exposure is a good word for it too here's something i'm like the only person in the world who could say that's why when i took you down the greenwich village gym we got to just chill out there was less traffic less beeping, less cars, more weirdos.

It was a lot of fun. It was a little more relaxing. Was that where we went in the bookstore and I saw the giant roach that I was afraid would carry me away and as a result did not want to eat in any of the restaurants on that side of the street if they were in adjoining buildings? That may have been. I think that was St. Mark's Comics. Yeah.

Yeah. I was enjoying looking through there until it got crowded. and then it was Stacy, oh, let's get some, whatever it was to eat and that play the three doors down. I said, no, let's go all the way across the street. But that's the day, though,

I got to get you in front of CBGB for that picture we took. So we at least got that. Yes, well, that picture we took. Do you remember what you were wearing? All right. Well, this has been city talk. Yes, city talk. Of all the cities you lived in.

Pretty shitty city talk. Which was the most populous, would it have been Charlotte? Of all the places you did? Of what? Of all the cities you lived? Mexico City. Oh, of all the cities I lived in.

No, I was in Atlanta for three months in 1985, so technically that would count. And you hated driving there. Well, I thought I did then, but since I've seen what's happened to it 40 years later, no, it was a fucking breeze back then. We could leave. Our apartment, right near the Atlanta Hartsfield Airport, for anybody that has any kind of grip on Atlanta geography, we could leave to go to, for example, on a Monday,

oh shit, what was Monday? Monday was Augusta. Yes, we could leave to go to Augusta 150 miles away at 4 o'clock and be at Augusta by 630. you wouldn't be out of fucking metro goddamn Atlanta at that point by now but yes that way and I wasn't in the city anyway we we hardly ever went we weren't important enough to go downtown in Atlanta we were doing all the spot shows remember so we had Columbus Macon Augusta Knoxville Chattanooga we'd ever go downtown I'm not a downtown I'm not a downtown

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Well, Jim, with that, let's take a short journey into something or to something. Let's go away, I guess is the point. What's up? Let's just go away. Let's go away. And let's go to this previously recorded review of SmackDown. Jim, you know that means Smackdown took place again. So we got to talk about WW.

That's the official Smackdown theme music. I instantly recognized that Smackdown took place by that that scintillating chord you just played. It was a series of almost chords. But the point is they were in Mexico City, a unique Smackdown, Smackdown in a foreign land, Mexico City, and... Yes. I wish the cords had been in a foreign land.

Usually the, uh, there's nothing happening on Smackdown, but this week we got some big events. Well, we, we, we had a big event, a big happening, a blessed event, as far as Sammy is concerned. Sammy Zane, re-won, regained one back, however you want to phrase it, the... Which one is that? Is that the world title or the... I can't fucking keep track. Which, which, which, which, which, which what is it actually?

Realistically. I can look it up, but I'm trying to do this off top of my head. I think. Yeah. It's, because the world title was one Rollins, that, did they invented for Rollins when Roman was barely working? Yes, but Roman came back, have made fun of it originally and came back and won it. Right.

So I think that's this one. This, no, this would be the other one then. Oh, wait, this is that one? No, listen to. me. Listen here now. Listen to me. You need some cords? Because Roman made fun of the world title when they

made it for Seth because Roman had the other one, but then we said, how isn't it ironic? Like, Ray, that he came back and he won that. And then didn't he, he lost, that's the one that punk had, right? Or wrong? What?

Hello? Who's the champion in the role right now? Roman Raines, right? Roman Roman Reigns Who did he win that from? Yes, who I forgot. Who did he win? He won it from someone.

I know he won it from someone. See, you know everything. And you're young. See, I could be forgiven because I'm old, but I don't, we don't care enough about any of this shit because it just, it goes on all the time.

Did he win it from punk? Is that the one he won from punk and then punk won the other one? well no that would be this one then oh man well he's a champion i mean he's he's accomplished well let's nevertheless let's back up to where they were Mexico City 12,651 people that's a nice fucking building

that is that is not I know they say Arena Mexico is the cathedral of Lucillebrae but Arena Mexico was built in what in the 50s, largely from lumber, from what I remember reading in one of the histories of it. And one would think,

even though they've made upgrades and et cetera, that they own the goddamn thing. Is this like, is that like a giant ECW arena where that fucking manager used to just knock down walls and start building shit

with no permits up there? Does anyone else run arena Mexico? Like outside of wrestling? Do you know? well they if they own it only with their blessing right but if the like if the concert comes to mexico city do they ever get concerts is there anything other than wrestling in that building i bet you if a concert that could hold or hold that could draw 10 or 12 000 people came to mexico they're going to this building smackdown was in i just bet you it is this a Dallas sportatorium type of deal where they got rats in the deep fryer over at arena

I don't know. I'm just wondering. But I will say everyone I know who goes there, and I know several people in the last few years who have say it's, it is like wrestling heaven right now, the last thing around. Well, the atmosphere. It'd be like going to the Evansville Coliseum here in this country, the last remaining building that Strangler Lewis wrestled in or whatever.

I think that's a shoot, by the way. I think the Evansville Coliseum would probably be the last building that you can still rent for public events or wrestling or anything else that Strangler Lewis would have wrestled in. Somebody ought to do that research. Anyways, Lewis was not here. Sean Delaney should do that research. Sean Delaney, you got them in the museum now.

You need to track down these facts. But this building is what I'm trying to say in Mexico City. It wasn't full. They had parts blocked off. How big is this son of a gun? Do you have any idea? I will find out. Do they have an in-beye?

team? Why doesn't Mexico City have an NBA team? It's the National Basketball Association. Well, it could become the INBA. They got the WNBA. They could have the INBA, the International National Basketball Association. I was going to say, why wouldn't it just be IBA at that point? Well, because you want to keep the NBA in there to make sure everybody knows it's not outlaw. It sure sounds outlaw, but let me ask you. There's nothing worse than Outlaw.

basketball. I'm just trying to get the facts here and you know settle these things but it was a nice building they were in. Yes. Nice building. So Randy Orden was there

and boy howdy they love him down in old Mexico. They did the video replay of what he and Cody did at Saturday night's main event. and then he did the in-ring promo and he started,

what do you want to talk about? And every time he mentioned Cody's name, they would boo. Did you catch that? It was not a surprise. It's not a surprise at this point. Well, but I mean, it was so, it was so universal.

It was so, it was all, you know, usually it's like a mix, but I was thinking at first, are they booing because he's knocking Cody and they're just booed every time he says Cody's name. And the whole promo was, Randy Orton said that Cody showed the world who he is. He's not a killer.

He's a good man. He's a good father, a good husband, a good friend. He's no killer, but I am. And they were, yes, kill some people for us. So he doesn't care about being a good person. and anybody between him and number 15, I will not hesitate to pull the trigger. And whoever's champ after tonight, I'm coming for you.

And they're like, yes, kill them all. There's a phrase I don't want to hear in wrestling anymore for a while. Pull the trigger. They just had a whole view in AEW over pulling the trigger. Because they're playing video games. I mean, it actually can be, and I'm surprised that it's not the subject of more, protest or

you know controversy when they say that because of the gun situation in this country is only one of the many things we have to worry about so it's kind of not exactly in good taste but it also it comes from these fucking people

are playing video games and I don't necessarily know that Randy's playing video games he's a grown adult rich person but they're probably right in shit like that frame me okay i'll say it but everybody put the trigger

how about you hit hit somebody over the head with a fucking shovel i will not hesitate Brian last to hit that son of a bitch over there with a fucking shovel in our match but he will that should be more like it it would stand out because no one threatens with a shovel so if someone actually said that i think would stand that more than

i won't be afraid to pull the trigger What trigger? You're going to kick them? What trigger exactly? I will not be afraid to swing the shovel. How'd you like an ice pick in your eye? That's what it's going to feel like. That's what it's going to feel like.

Metaphorically, Cody. Well, they're already using a screwdriver in AEW, so why don't they use an ice pick? I'm going to take a pick axe to your spinal column. I mean, I'm going to hit an automatrop. They can go so much. many different ways with this. You know, that's what the cops told me

that the bulletproof vest will not stop an ice pick. That always comforted me. Yeah, they had a match with Ricky Saints and Phoenix for the AAA Cruiserweight title. Yeah. Trick Williams was massively

over and got big cheers for a soccer player and a soccer ball and did a great promo. and then introduced Yadi and he got kind of a pop and he didn't come out but Trick gave him a bigger introduction and he didn't come out

and then Baron Corbin drug him out and dumped him on the stage and ran and when Trick came to help him up Baron Corbyn came back out with a stick and leveled trick. Trick was leveled by a stick. Why? Why? This is like the rock being menaced by the Brooklyn brawler. They've got a star in Trick Williams. And the people are even willing to swallow little Yachty along with the ride.

And he's not bad in certain circumstances. He kind of fits the deal. And this fucking Baron Corbyn is a waste of space, oxygen, flesh, water. Nikki wrestled Paige. Did you see that? Brian, did you see? I saw some of it. Yeah. And Chelsea wrestled the refrigerator herself, Nia Jacks, for the women's title,

where Nia forgot to let go of the ropes. They did this fancy Dan finish where Chelsea was going to flip over her back out of the turnbuckle and give her whatever She calls the unprettier that Christian used to do, and Nea Jacks didn't let go of the ropes, and Chelsea just fell in a fucking heap and the human waterbed on top of her, and Eddie go back to it.

Hey, Damien Priest and Truth, when they got beat by the Vikings, priest turned on Truth and laid him out. That'll be an excellent first match program. And that was pretty much Smackdown, except for our main event, Brian, where Sammy Zane was going to get his long-awaited chance. How long has he waited now? Six weeks, whatever it was, to get back for the world title.

Did we ever figure out which world title this is? It is one recognized by WWE. Well, that narrows it down to half a dozen or so. So, and by the way, how many shows are they running? Mexico. They had 12,000 people here on a Friday night. We know that Raw is in Mexico and also the AAA show and but that TEPA. And also there are another Latin American countries, I believe, right now because I just saw a clip earlier today of Stephanie Vakere winning the women's title from Liv Morgan at a house show in Chile, her home country. Well, I don't mind them being

a different country, but how many times they go run the same city? I know. Mexico City has a lot of people in it. But goddamn. How many shows in a week period of time are they running in Mexico City itself? It seems like a lot, but the bigger question, and I don't have the answer, but how many wrestling shows a week are run in Mexico City?

I'm pretty sure it's like at least two dozen. Well, yeah, because CMLLL at Arena, Mexico is going to do, does three a week, right, in that building. That one building. That one building and that one promotion, that promotion runs other shows at other venues in there in a Mexico City as well. And, you know, this other wrestling show. It's just nonstop wrestling there. But geez, at these prices, one would think that there would be a limit. Nevertheless, Sammy Zane is one of the best promos in the business. Are you aware of this? I agree with you. I agree. He was in the back doing a

promo and all of the things that he's been doing complaining and he's been screwed and blah, blah, blah, and he wants justice. But it's so natural. It's not scripted sounding coming from him. And he just rattles it off. And it's great. And the angst on his face and the body language, everything fits. And he said, he would have been fine if so-and-so beat punk. And he would have been fine of so-and-so beat punk but they didn't and he realized it can't be anybody else it's got to be me that beats punk and gets my justice and i'm taking it back tonight and i'm like this is fucking great he is cooking and then m walks fucking johnny's same face and the purple-headed pixie candy and they hug and so now they're using this little turd as a mcuffin

because basically Sammy has obviously gone to him and made a deal. And Johnny's there asking, so if you beat punk tonight, I'm next, right? Like he's going to get a world title shot again. And Sammy kind of reluctant, well, we'll talk about it. No, no, no, no. You said, I'm next. Yeah, you're next. Okay.

So no honor among thieves. But now this, again, this little nitwit involved in grown folks business, I'm just it could have been somebody else that maybe could have benefited from it. And then later on, they had punk in the back saying sometimes you have to reward bad behavior or teach it a lesson. And, you know, so that's why he's doing this and blah, blah, blah, giving the title match. I'm not going to lose to a guy who broke his hand jacking it to a nine-day title reign.

okay but nevertheless it was time for the big match Sammy and punk for the title whichever one it may be and Sammy when he entered he got he got booze but he still got

some wooing with the music and then like a booselaine in Mexico they all sang the fucking song even it's in English did you have to pass a bilingual test to get in this crowd or do they just they do it like the the new lead singer of journey and learned everything phonetically what do you think

I think if you're a wrestling fan and you're a devoted wrestling fan and you hear the same song over and over you probably know the words no matter what your language is I don't know what the words are I don't know I don't know I've heard the German version of Der Commissar, and I still can't figure it out. But when WWE goes to Germany, they're not singing Cody Rhodes in German. You know what I mean? They're singing... All they have to do is go, whoa!

That's why there's so many woes in music, because woes in international language. Can I... no disrespect to punk here, but I'm going to use this as the point. Speaking of Cody and punk and Edge and all these people, I like to advocate for more instrumental intros. more just sounds and cool sounds like every wrestler had, you know, years ago. Enough of this stuff. I don't need, it's cool the first time you see the fans sing along,

but when the production clearly wants them to do it longer and longer each and every time and the wrestler just stands there, looking at the crowd like he's really proud, like, yeah, all right, enough of this. It's happening all the time now. But anyway. Well, you know why the one reason, why the midnight Express had Chase as our music was obviously because it was from the movie Midnight Express and it was cool, but also you not only couldn't sing it, you couldn't really hardly hum it.

And so the people announce our arrival, but at the same time not engender any, oh, I love that song, I sing along. So same thing with the heavenly bodies, Frankenstein. Nevertheless, it was clobbering time here in Mexico. And besides their goddamn television formatting, they rang the bell, punk lit into him, did a spot where he tweaked his leg and they went to break in like 25 seconds. Yeah, that was the, that's the story of the match,

the finish and all the commercials in the middle of the match, so you barely saw any match. Yeah. When they came back, they had the slug fest, but you could see that punk was selling the knee, and that was the story of the match. And Sammy started working on it,

wrapped it around the post, got heat on it. Punk would try to fight back, but the knee kept buckling. And then punk kind of made a semi-comeback where he started working on Sammy's bad hand. And he was trying to take the brace off. I think it wouldn't actually come off. They had to work on that for a minute.

but so Sammy kept trying to go for a figure four to work for the knee and punk kept going back to the hand and obviously punk was the raving baby face here in this one and they had a good fucking match they they both can work and they make sense and they still managed to get the big two counts because Sammy couldn't hit the blue thunder bomb but finally did out of nowhere two count but then punk hit the GTS but his knee went out by the time he could cover it was a two count and then here came old Gargano and he drew punk and Sammy got a little schoolboy but then Sammy got the figure four again and punk twisted his hand to where he could let it go so he could get the vice but Candy drew the referee so he didn't see that

and then they just Gargano tried to hit Punk with the belt, but punk gave Gargano the GTS and been sold his knee. But his referee was rolling Johnny out. Owens came in and got the belt and swung at Sammy, and Sammy ducked and Owens nailed punk by mistake, but then he smiled about it. And then he swung at Sammy, and Sammy nutshot at him.

He actually shouldered, it to the stomach team because he missed the first one, but he got it. And then Sammy hit to kick on punk, one, two, three. It was a good fit. The finish kept moving and everybody was there. I just hated that Gargano was anything to do with it. But otherwise than that, they have still, they've got, punk is going to be fucking highly pissed.

You got the thing with Sammy and Kevin still going. but obviously this is a new wrinkle that they can keep this thing up in the air. I don't mind it. And nobody saw it coming for once. Nobody predicted it and it keeps like

five different angles going. But what did you think? I didn't really judge to match because the commercials took me completely out of it, to be honest with you. Yeah, it was too bad. Two breaks in a 12-minute match. I'm sure and,

front of a Mexico city crowd was probably a lot of fun, but I couldn't get into it at all. The finish, I hate that Gargano's being used in this way, but clearly he has fucking snuff films with Triple H on his phone. Because there's no, he's so everything, unmarketable, older than what he was when the last time they tried to do something with him, can't do promos, whatever. You know, it was all right in terms of the big. finish, Mexico City gets a big title change. I wonder if this was all just to set up punk winning it in Chicago

at Worlds Collide if they're going to do that, which is the show that they decided to do head-to-head with AEW all out because, you know, they don't worry about AEW, but they definitely want to punish them every chance they can, aka they worry about AEW. But I don't know, I just worry about them hot-shotting the title. Maybe that's not even a thing anymore. but I just worry about TKO getting it in their own head

outside of Paul Avec and the creative team that title changes are good let's just do lots of title change I worry just for the sake of them yeah like a very Russo-ish let's just change it we need a rating put jelly roll on the show you know that kind of mentality we need a rating switch to title I worry about that but I think Sammy is unique in that you can put the thing on him for a few days.

Nobody expects him to have a long rain. Nobody, he shouldn't really be in the way he's presented. And on purpose, he shouldn't be the champion. But he keeps sticking his nose in there and fucking everything up for grown folks. So I like this. But I'm with you. If they get the idea, let's just do this all the time, then, you know, the situation has to fit. And let's just say what you said is true.

and I would kind of believe that. This is probably a short-term thing, just like his first title reign was. He's now a two-time champion. He's held the title for what? Three weeks altogether? I don't even know. But if they switch it to punk or Owens,

whatever they do next, that'll be the thing. Sammy's a two-time champion in a year. I don't want this to be a recurring thing where he just keeps winning the belt and losing it back. And again, maybe they won't do that. But with TKO, I worry about

the logic in the booking more than the normal concerns about the logic in WWE creative. Well, at least so far they haven't asked for a mummy. I mean, you're okay with the match for what you saw. What did you think of the finish in terms of Gargano's involvement than the way Owens got involved? That's the thing is, I wish it was somebody else

that could possibly benefit by being an entertaining stooge instead of Gargano is just a waste of everything. But otherwise than that, Sammy getting in and screwing up things between who are allegedly the real main event world champion level guys, whether it be punk and Owens or whoever's in that picture, but Sammy's in there screwing things up, they've got something here like when he was the entertaining part of the bloodline. But he can't win it five times,

but as long as he keeps doing this, it keeps necessitating other people to have the match that they never had or that never lost and blah, blah, blah. So it's a little juggling, but I like they had a great match. The finish worked and Owens with the smirk about hitting punk,

you know, but they can't just keep doing it constantly all the time. Yeah, and again, in the last week, we've had a world title change, a U.S. title change, change, a women's world title change, and those are just the ones I could think of off the top of my head. Yeah, well, and remember, we can't remember which

title changed here, which ought to tell them something, but this, with these people, it's more about the people in the match than the belts now, because everybody's got a fucking belt. It's more about the people in the match. I think the world title, I'll say this,

I'll quit. The world title means more to a lot of these guys that it does to the fans anymore. They just want to see the fucking drama between the people. Jim, that was Smackdown, and things are really cooking right now in WWE, and a lot

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There'll be no prize Simple and to the point Ladies and gentlemen We are back here in the real time Sounds like you fell backwards ass first onto an organ That's not very nice But Jim, we talked about Smackdown

That wasn't the only WWE Produce show That night or even that weekend Boy howdy wasn't it Triple A had triple Triplemania, triple mania 34, I believe, two nights separated by two days. But Jim, let's get to Triplemania and talk about whatever. Do I need the goddamn Enigma Machine from World War II to decode what the fuck it is that

you are speaking to me today? You're going around your elbow to get to your wrist in almost every part of trying to bring something up here. Now, what are we talking about? That's kind of my sound. Jim, what we're talking about here today is Triple Mania. Arriva. Yes.

Arriva. Luis Martinez, do you know that Bobby Fult, I just talked to Bobby Fulton here a day or two ago. And the first, he said, the first show he ever promoted. You know when he started wrestling, he was 15 years old when he had his first match? And he promoted his first show as a promoter three months later. He was still 15. His dad helped him. and Arriba Luis Martinez was on the show.

So that's why I had it in my mind. Oh, we're talking about the, we're talking about AAA, aren't we? Sadly, he was still wrestling after Tito Santana became a national star, and then he would, like, introduce himself as the original Arriba man. Yeah. With the widest upper body of a human being ever,

it is youth. He was a bodybuilder or physique fellow. but as he got like 60 the leg shrunk and the arm shrunk but his upper body it didn't get thicker he didn't get a bigger belly

it got wider it was like he's spread he had the biggest rib cage since giant Baba it looked like a fucking rain barrel and he'd be running around insisting I'm the original Arriba man

I'm the original Arriba man poor fella but nevertheless he wasn't on this card I watched, I was going to watch two things, and then I realized that not only was it on YouTube, but it was Dominic and, and Hoosie, what's he? Our boy there, our friend Ludwig El Grande,

that was like half an hour or more on the show, and then YouTube gets broken up with a variety of interruptions when I try to watch it. So I, but I was morbidly curious, in almost, who is again almost ready after what's it only been, seven, eight, nine years, whatever, almost against Ray Mysterio. That's like one of those freak show matches that those outlaw MMMA groups in Japan would have had in the late, you know, 90s or whatever.

I figured Ray is a genius and he's always. always working with people bigger than he is. This would just be an extreme case, but we'll see what almost has for him these days. And they've dressed him up. Brian, he's a gladiator now. Almost.

He's got the, the, what do you call that? It's not a skirt or a kilt or a flap. What is that? I'm asking you, don't laugh at me when I'm asking for help. I don't know. maybe we could just go if I was drowning off the side of a rowboat stream

but I can't swim and I give me a hand would you just laugh and mock me or would you reach in and help I throw you a flap damn I'd whatever it is I don't know what it is but I know what you're talking about yeah he's got the outfit and the audience is is easy down in in old mexico so they're milking even more than they milked up here because I've never seen anybody walks slower to the ring than almost did with Dominic and Dorian Roaldon who is now he don't own it anymore but he's he's still in I guess as the kids say in storyline he's the boss of AAA or rogue boss or what's happening with it what's his

status down there I believe you have any idea he's a heel involved with the heels and uh well I know that. Part of the deal with WWE getting AAA was he was going to stay around and his family would retain a small percentage and... So he's Dorian Carter. You know, it's really interesting that if you really think about it, Tony Kahn

is the most charismatic of the wrestling promoters that appears on their own shows. That Carlo Silva, this guy, Tony really stands out when you compare him to the rest. And he should be standing out. Out in the parking lot

and lined it. No, all right. So between almost milk in his entrance and Ray being over and, you know, the people cheering him and then them milking after they got in the ring,

it was ten fucking minutes. But then they stand there and the size difference was visually insane. It looked like these two entities couldn't be from the same species, right? and Ray did the ducking and the dodging and the bull fighting and a people,

Olae! And bless almost his heart, they've taught him how to Marcel Marceau a match. The pantomime, the milking, the facials, the slow heat, the making things, you know, making a simple thing mean as much as you can. but when you break it down, he really, he still can't fucking do anything, can he? I mean, he can do the things that require him to grip something and fling his arm in a direction. But it's still not like, remember Andre, his youth drop kicked, but had the set moves, the bumps, the ways that he could have the tables turned on him, unbelievably, they taught almost the,

rope tie, the Andre rope tie where his arms tied up. But he's just kind of he's doing those things. As a matter of fact, on YouTube with my headset on, even with my bad hearing, boy, their ring microphones are way too fucking sensitive. At one point,

almost had put Ray down at his feet and he looked at the referee and he said, ask him what he wants. So the referee bent over and what, what do you want him to do to you, Ray? My God, damn it. And another time right early on the match, or early in the match,

almost was going to throw Ray like that throw him out of the ring where he throws him head first like a satchel and Ray slides out, but they botched it up because it wasn't time or whatever. And so Ray had to fucking get back up and write the ship.

and tell him what the fuck, and then they started the spot, and I almost said, I go, okay, I got it. I'm like, what the fuck is going on here?

So, you can't teach him being that big, and they have certainly polished his performance, and I'm sure he's a nice guy, but he can't do anything, can he? You know, what Will Osprey is to Tiger Mask,

almost is to elegante oh boy howdy yeah poor old Jorge at least you know but nevertheless

it the match was in slow motion and Ray would do you know kicks to the leg or punches or just fly into him and bounce off or whatever and they taught him a bear hug almost

and I you know the pace was just glacial it was just slow and then ray kind of got to come back in and almost got tied in the ropes the Andre spot and then Dominic interfered but Kaiser as el grande Americano flew out and tackled him and they fought over the desk and almost managed to shove the referee down so it missed him or missed him or missed Ray hitting almost with a chair over the head. And then the good spot, I like this spot, Ray figured out a way to give him a 619 to the balls

and then to the back and then to the knee and then finally the face. And the people were into it, especially the payoff. Yeah, that was pretty good actually. And then he, the 619 to the balls got me. I was like, wow, that's clever. Well, yeah, he was breaking him down in stages where he would land to a different place that he could finally, you know, and then off the top with the big ass drop thing and off the top of the splash you got a two count but then Dominic came back up and beat up Kaiser with a chair on the floor and Ray nailed Dominic

and turned around and ran into almost his boot and then a big choke slam one two three so it almost reinstated it almost reinstated yeah because he had been suspended but The only way that Dominic would agree to defend the title of the tababa blah against Kaiser is if Ray fought almost, and that's why almost, or Ray is now in a neck brace because of this vicious, in like 10 or 12, they got 10 or 12 minutes out of the match also, which I was incredible.

But it was like watching a VHS tape in slow motion where it's, the two-minute thing goes eight minutes, but almost, he did a body slam, he did a bear hug, he did the choke slam very carefully, got tied into ropes. He's got about as many moves as

Nash did, but he doesn't have the personality necessarily to carry off making that much money and getting that far over with only six moves. I just was like, ah, Ah. All right. Well, we'll see. I am curious what star rating that will get.

But just to clarify, you did not. It was clearly put together. It was, you know, it made sense. Everybody did their thing and everybody was, and even almost, like I said, he's improved except that he still can't do anything. And just to confirm what you said earlier, you did not watch Docky. Dominic Mysterio and Grande Americano. I did not have to, that would have been a better match, but it also, as I said, it was half an hour long and with the variations in the YouTube, giving you an ad every 14 seconds

because the WWE is money hungry. I mean, we got to make a living too, but it was ridiculous. It would be like he'd pick a guy up for a slam and go to a spot and come back and he'd hit the mat and go to a spot. I mean, they're just, they're just soaking us. Lucha as a style is not really conducive to commercial advertising in the middle of the matches,

I wouldn't think. No, it doesn't flow at all. But it was a really good match. It was a really, really good match. And El Grande Americano, the new mega champion in AAA. And that's the AAA. Do they have a, do they have if they have a mega champion, like mega is like a megastore? And so even bigger than a regular store.

have like a mini champion or a regular champion or a actually they used to have a minis champion i don't know if they still uh do in triple a but there's no who's the regular champion if you you got a champion of the minis and a champion of the megas but who's the regular guy i think they may use mega in place of world i think mega is their uh champion oh when did she get off the legal team over at uh all right tony con let's let's get away from there before uh before she runs out of my dog. Now let's move on, Jim, from there to some other stuff. Where's my dog? Oh, legal just ran off with it. All right. Well, Jim, yes. Mexico City, a beautiful land, and WWE had more in store.

Let's talk about WWRWA. Well, I know we've already talked about this. know when we talked about smackdown but jesus so they ran smackdown and then the second day of triple mania and then raw and this crowd i believe i do's believe would be the biggest one of the bunch of them what did we ever find out what capacity is for that building or how many people were in attendance at raw was it was the same place right they had to be in a same place right they had to be in same. They could have two buildings like that in the same fucking, even with 22 million people in Mexico City. But this, I think, was the biggest crowd because it seemed like they didn't have as much space at the end blocked off for the entranceway and the screens and the various

thing. But still, I'm just wondering if anybody even, even Thurston Howl over at wrestling home economics if how many tickets did they sell in the one city in one week and by the way the capacity in that building is

22,300 according to Wikimedia. Jesus Christ. And according to Wessel ticks who did not track these shows they had trouble because they were not in America I guess or I think they track Canadian shows too Oh so so he's racist against people in South America

what I said. That's not what I said. Let's get back to this number, Mr. Troublemaker. W.W.E announced 49,017 over three days. The only breakdown we have from that is WWE announced 12,651 for Smackdown. So that would leave 37,000 for Triple Mania and or Raw in a, and, I mean, the 22,300 is capacity, but even with any kind of entrance way, they'd probably lop off a couple of thousand. So they pretty much sold out those other two, I would assume, for the setups that they had. And also on this tour, WWRan house shows in Guadalajara, JAL, Arena, Guadalaj, and Monterey Mexico at Arena Monterey. Yeah, that is it, Arena Monterey as part

of their Mexico live tour. So we don't have those numbers either, but is in a middle they're they're large and they were in chile so i mean they're going all over the place they're going from one place to another everywhere chilly today hot tamale you never know that was an old mama cornet joke what's a weather report in mexico chili today and hot tamale when i was six i'd go ha anyhow you know who's who's not a hot tamale right now he's as cold as a macaw is none other than Ray Mysterio. He's got a neck brace on. He was crippled by that massive choke slam

where the giant man picked him up and then set him down like he was putting his baby in a cradle. And did you notice that I know they're in Mexico, but because of that, much of the promos, Brian, were in Spanish. and I'm not being anti-Hispanic because I don't everything gets the French people either

but I don't speak French so I don't know what the fuck they were saying. So the people every once while Ray would dribble in Ray would dribble in a little English. I think the Lucha brothers did their whole thing in Spanish later on but point being that's the problem with international origins of American television programs is who do you, do you try to appeal to the fans that are there in the arena

or do you try to not appeal to but speak to the fans in here at home? Was that a question? Yes, possibly. I put a question mark on the end of the prattle that I made there, so it sounded like one. they guy if they get they how many people in Mexico speak English so conversely how many people in the United States speak Spanish I know there's a bunch but still it's not like everybody knows so how the fuck do you handle this type of thing with all these because that's what

they do this whole show is normally is live goddamn in ring monologues so which language which ought they be speaking? I mean, when they're, they're worldwide now, but most of their athletes are English speaking, and they have a lot more Spanish speaking people now, and, you know,

that's the... I don't know what to, I don't know. As a point, somebody's going to be confused regardless. But anyway, then Ray pitched to the VTR from Chile, where live lost the title to Stephanie and it's good they're switching on TVs and house shows and that that does make it unpredictable but again you know you don't want them to be just doing it

all the time from now on all at once uh but then ray brought stephanie out to the ring and as they lost me there i just think she's as boring as oatmeal with no sugar and she always looks a bit puzzled. But it ended up that Liv and Dom came out and cut a promo on Ray and Stephanie. And Dominic got to shit boot out of him here too. He's, I think he's probably a bigger deal now that he's worked there for a while, even than he was when he was,

you know, just on this program. You know what I'm saying. But Adam Pierce looked like Andre. to all of them. Did you see that? Well, yeah. Stephanie's not as tall as lived. I was surprised.

I was trying to judge her by the width of her ass, I guess, instead of how far off the ground she was. Anyway, then they pitched to another tape where Dominic lost the title to Kaiser, and that was quite a popular thing that happened. and of course dominic is challenging for a much just have a mixed tag right here right now and and ray is it a goddamn neck brace right but here comes grande americano out to take his place and everybody sang ole oh lay ole to kaiser and he promoted dominic in spanish and then adam pierce made it official in spanish but I could understand officiali. And by the way, Ludwig Kaiser speaks better Spanish than the guys from Mexico, it seems like.

Well, that's because he had to study it on purpose. Say anything about that. They just kind of picked it up. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. Rolls on. Oh, it did, didn't it? Oh, well, that wasn't really, I said it's our main event,

but that's not really our main event because that's our match right now. So they had a match and I zoned out, but suddenly J.D. McDonough and the girls, Rochelle and Roxanne ran out and just got Dominic and lived disqualified. And Dominic was jerking Ray around by his neck brace and they beat up the baby faces. And my question, I guess, is, Is Judgment Day the first time ever that there's been a heel group where there's more girls in it than guys? Yeah, maybe, maybe. Think about this.

Of all factions, as the kids say, in wrestling history, especially when old shit stain went crazy back in the 90s and had the nation and the DOA and the Bariquas and all that stuff. but they've got J.D. McDonough and Dominic. Not exactly the road warriors. Rochelle is the biggest one physically of the bunch of them. So how exactly are they going to fare against some of these groups of these beefy individuals like the 9-4-2s? What is the number of them?

The 9-4-2s? What are you talking? The, what, their zip code, um, hoise, hoise, hoise, hoax, hoax, hoax, uh, the, the guys from NXT, the, um, yes, what's their zip code? Not zip code, area code. Zip code. The 45, 462. That what a great faction that is. They could have had their zip code and make it from the most dangerous part of the hood, but instead. And they're plus four.

A, yes. There's a joke for the male men out there. Yes, because that way they know exactly where to deliver the hate mail quicker. But anyway, they've got, in the Judgment Day, has a small young man, a thin young man, and three women in it. So they're not exactly physically intimidated. DX had two women. If you count China and Shung. Well, I'm not sure I'd count China.

anyway so then they had and I was going to watch this Brian I swear I was I was going to watch it I was salivating over it I'd actually said to myself when I thought I was going to get this oh this is something I'll watch because I skipped ahead to the next segment after the break and it was a money in the bank qualifier match and I thought it was Austin theory against Javon Evans. And in suddenly they reminded me that all these things are three ways and here came Big Cass.

And so my excitement for Javan versus theory was muted to complete indifference because Cass came out to dead silence not only in the building but in my house and I wrote he's shit in every country It's a universal language of I'm shit.

Just look at me. I don't have to speak. Don't respond to me. Don't care about me. I am caca. There is no clean end of me for you to pick me up by. It's universal round the world. See, of all people could join together as one in a brotherhood

and unity of handholding to all of us just say, big Cass is the shits so I fast forwarded 10 minutes exactly and when I did theory was nowhere in the ring and I couldn't see him and Javon Evans hit the cutter on Cass one two three and I wrote good

because fuck Cass because he's the shits what are your thoughts why do you hate him so much you didn't even hate him this much in AEW because he's taking up in AEW there's so much to go around but here there's actual legitimate talent with a chance to prosper.

But he's seven feet tall. You can't teach that. Well, they taught almost how to be seven foot three. So fuck Cass. He's second best anyway. If you're seven feet tall and you're still not the biggest son of a bitch and the company is time to leave. Who do you prefer, Baron Corbyn or Big Cass?

You know, actually Baron Corbyn. Oh, come on now. You hate him more than anyone. How do you hate Big Cass? much all of a sudden. Because Baron Corbyn's all that Baron Corbyn is ever going to be. That's all he is. That's all he's ever going to be.

But Big Cass went away for eight years and couldn't come back with anything else. Eight fucking years. I would have, I'd have had goddamn some kind of surgery. I'd have had something amputated just to make myself look different. But no. So it's, it's, it's all on him. They've given Baron Corbin 14 million different fucking gimmicks.

He was sad Corbin and mad Corbin and rich Corbin and poor Corby. Happy Corbyn. I'm surprised they didn't make him Billy Corbin. But so he's, you know, it's, but Cass could have done something else besides being big Cass or big Bill. Well, you did hit on something before. Javan versus Theory.

as a singles match I would like to see. I would like to see that. And I'd like them to give it time. And actually, I would like to see that. But Javon moves forward, winning this multi-man match for a chance to go to the next multi-man match. We're all rolls on. Well, that Intercontinental Title match

where our friend, Mr. Gable, contested with Dragon Lee. And Gable won with an ankle lock. and then they shook hands and hugged because they were so proud of each other. And I mentioned this only because while it was a wonderful match, I don't care about Dragon Lee, and I know it was a wonderful match for the giant crowd in Mexico City,

and so I have nothing wrong or bad to say about it. I just didn't want to watch it. But I don't remember, Brian, in the first 10 years that I was a wrestling fan, ever seeing two guys that had just had a match and then turn around and hug each other. Maybe there was a stray handshake every now and then after a scientific match between a couple of baby faces in the middle of the card.

And Bill Dundee and Billy Robinson, they fucking just tried to stretch the shit out of each other for 30 or 40 minutes, and then they shook hands. But nobody ever hugged. Why does everybody have to hug now? to try to get an extra pop. I bet they'd pop if one of them dropped down on her knees and gobble the other one's dick, but I don't know if I'd go that far.

I don't know if that'll get on YouTube. I may have to be on a, well, paperview's gone. You can't deny they'd pop. I'm afraid that that's the direction wrestling is going in. Everything's about the cheap pop and what you can sell merch off. So you never know. That could be the next Danhausen. Is there going to be the deal

is whenever they book a big main event for WrestleMania, the WrestleMania T-shirt will have the two guys hugging each other? Is one guy going to reach down and surreptitiously grab a little ass cheek? I remember the WrestleMania shirts used to have the guys in profile with angry looks facing each other,

so-and-so versus so-and-so. Now it's going to be so-and-so, hugged so-and-so, the super southern squeeze. I prefer just a regular old school WrestleMania logo, but Jim, let's get back to Raw. We still have the big main event. Of course we do.

And that big main event was Pinta, who won the tournament to face Roman reigns for now. What title was this? This was their world championship, I think. Yes? The world heavyweight title or the WWE title. now this is the this has got to be the world heavyweight title doesn't it be

got to do not do man doesn't it be uh roman rains is the current world heavyweight champion there you go mama says it bees that way sometimes so penta came in with a giant headdress looking like mill moscarus playing an aztec priest in a fucking 60s movie and the lasers and the pyro, and he took his time with this, because he's over, the hometown hero, I think he hugged every fan individually

on the way to the ring. It was like the fabulous ones going through and feeling everybody up. And when he got to the ring, there was more pyro, and they chanted Pinta, and they sang, O'le, O'Leo, Le, O'Leo, Le,

and it never, ended and the whole entrance was six minutes at least two minutes of it had to be the singing and the chanting and the cheer so he was definitely over and you got the they may have done a good job

lately with making people think well fuck the the title might change hands because it just did Friday night same building and it did in Chile and so you could almost forgive these people for believing in the unbelievable

and thinking, well, he might do this because they might do it for a sell 50,000 tickets in one city, any wrestling promoter in history would have put the fucking belt on the fucking mayor. So anyway, then here came Roman and at least he got booed here. Mexico gets it. a heal people.

We don't, why cheer him when he's a slow moving dick, a pompous self-important asshole who tries to dictate his will upon all others for heaven's sake.

And he walked to the ring in slow motion and took four minutes, but there was no chair in the milk. And then the introductions were two minutes and then there went to a two and a half minute break. So by the time we got started with this thing And the bell rang

It was 15 minutes from the time the first entrance started So we saw two guys walk to the ring Be introduced at a commercial break in 15 fucking minutes Are you sensing where I'm going with this Brian? I think so But everyone wants to hear your review It was a hot match, hot crowd It was a hot crowd

The match was a hot crowd The match was to me, tepid at best. It would, because it was, the people, this was the definition of, of having a hometown hero that the people would love to see win the world championship, home country hero.

But, but it was a Roman Raines fucking match and a W.W.E. production. And so between the milking and the walking and the pacing, I wrote Roman Raines works at the pace of melting ice cream. Don't forget the speech. This time he got on the mic in the middle of the back.

He got the microphone and it wasn't an I-quit match. It was, no, it's a world title match in front of 15,000 or 20,000 people or how many we don't fucking know the exact number. And he's got time to get on a microphone. It's the fans went crazy for everything that Pinta did, as they should. Like, he's the hero, right?

much of it is to me a little blah but they love it it's fine Roman rains was the issue but then they they went after this 15 minutes to get them in this fucking thing the match lasted went three and a half minutes they go to a break for three minutes so now after we're past 20 minutes into this thing and we've had as much more commercial we've had twice as much commercial time at this point is we've had goddamn match. Then Roman is already getting heat on Penta. And again, I wrote the Pace is glacial. And Penta hit a couple of things for a two count. I wrote slowest match ever. Where is it that, again,

that people think that territory wrestling was the main events or the grudge matches or whatever. I'm not talking about preliminaries. But they think. the big matches were 15-minute headlocks. Do you remember ever seeing a main event from a major territory in the 1980s that was this fucking slow, Brian? I mean, there were some WWF

national expansion shows with slow-reli events, but it was a different... Outside the WWF. Not that I'm aware of. All right. So then they went to break after they'd been back for four minutes. They went to break again for two minutes. And when they came back, Roman was walking slowly.

And Roman went for the Superman punch, but Pinta drop-kick him. Roman, he went for the Canadian destroyer on Roman, and Roman backdropped him on the apron of the ring, which looked, could have been a little dodgy for Pinta there. if he had just gone a little bit farther. Power bombed him through the desk, but then Penta hit his finish, got a two-count,

Roman hit a Superman punch, got a two-count, Pinta hit the Mexican destroyer, and Roman just popped right up to his feet and speared him. He got a two-count. I'm like, what the, and then that's when Roman got the microphone. after he'd already been hit by fucking the guy's fucking big finish, the big finale. He popped up and speared him, got a two count, and then called for the microphone so he could speechify. And he walked around and told the fans to acknowledge him.

But then Penta foiled his spear and hit a kick and a Mexican destroyer got a two counts. That's twice his finish. once he didn't sell it, once he had a two count. Then they both sold forever, and then I did a yay boo. And bless Penta, he beat up Roman a little bit, hit him with three super kicks, went for a springboard, and Roman Superman punched him and speared him, one, two, three.

But the fans loved it until the finish. And over the last couple minutes, at least they, they began moving. but it's not even you know a Penta with anybody else might move too fast but good Lord Roman has gotten it's a performance

it's a wonderful performance of a very slow moving play yeah with a lot of predictability and the key to modern wrestling is you give them a hot you know last three or four minutes kicking out of everything and that's all that counts and the last few minutes here were really hot.

But yeah, Roman's a performer. He's a performance wrestler. He's not getting the movie roles he wants, so this is the role he has to do. With that said, this was maybe the most he's done in a match against anyone, because obviously doing stuff with Pentas different than working with Punk or Rollins.

Hey, I'll tell you what, when he let this guy give him that finish where he picks the guy up and turns him folds him up like a pocket knife and drops him on his hopefully shoulders. I was like, that's a lot of trust there for a guy worth this. Because remember we talked about this during one of those injury bugs going around where punk was hurt or this guy was hurt or that guy was hurt?

I said, it's gotten to the point now with this, the financial scale and world that they're in, that when you pick a guy up, how you put him down may depend on a difference of 20 or 30 million dollars gross for the fucking company for the next several months. So it's, you know,

you never wanted to hurt anybody, but you didn't used to be fucking scared that you'd goddamn starve everybody and bankrupt the promotion when you gave somebody a pile driver a little snug. Just a thought. Well, again, a happy Mexican fan base for WWE, a successful tour. And that was WWRWA.

And Jim, some people thought that main event was good. Some people thought maybe Roman Raines is just ultra-focused on what he's doing. That's why, like a Greg Valentine match, everything builds, it starts very slow, and eventually things start happening, and then, of course, you get your speech. usually there's no mic this time he decided he wanted to be amplified Jim ultra pouches is something I like when editing let's talk about that somehow let's talk about the literal word salad that you just evacuated out here all over the place ultra pouches is a thing that we're going to

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And with that, without any delay, we'll be right back after this commercial timeout. We are back. Good Lord. Uh, Jim, want to get your, thoughts on some news that broke over the last day. It's, I guess, still technically in the rumor stage, but people are running with it, people who would know. Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful reported that Ilya Dragonoff is set to join AEW. Obviously, the name Dragonoff won't

be used, but Ilya is his first name. What are your thoughts on Ilia? Do you think they'll They'll turn him into Ilya Jackanov. I don't think so, but that may be what happens. Who knows? That may be what happens, even if it's not the intention. You know, I love the kid. I don't know how old he is, but he's a kid to me. We've praised him before.

He was different. He was unique. He not only a beast athletically, even though he was of diminutive size, but also had that just unique personality. and I saw some people said, well, his facials are over the top. For him, it worked. That's one of those things.

It wasn't, it seemed organic. He just seems to be a little gremlin, right? It's just a Tasmanian devil. I loved him and Gunther. I wish we'd have seen more of that. You know, I'd like to be excited for him, but I'm just wondering, how is this guy who was so serious and worked so hard and,

what an underdog baby face type. How is he going to translate to the, you know, his size is not unique there. It's the land of Lilliput. But the question is, can anybody work with him to expose his advantages and not him just be doing your floor exercises with the rest of him? Well, that's kind of where the story took over or took off

who he's going to work with. and the excitement amongst fans about who in AEW you may see them in the ring with perhaps John Moxley or Will Osprey there's lots of options unfortunately it'll probably be Orange Cassidy by week three but Kyle Fletcher after this news came out posted on Twitter

I J AEW I don't know what the J is maybe I'm missing something there But did you see that? Did you see Kyle Fletcher? No, I wouldn't have understood it if I had seen it. I'm not really following Kyle closely on social media, but what did, I love J-A-E-W. What does that mean?

I don't know, but a fan, I presume, named Colin on Twitter responded in a quote tweet, See? This right here is what's sad. AEW has an entire roster of men and women that the talent can be gassing up, but they choose the froth at the mouth over the newest WWE departure instead. We had MJF tweeting about the new day, now Kyle Fletcher is tweeting about Ilya Draganov.

To which Kyle Fletcher responded, oh fuck off Colin To which Colin To which Colin responded Oh fuck off you little nanny Am I wrong I'm sure the tweets about Seamus will go out next Then Kyrie Sane

Then whoever else leaves WWE next year To which Kyle Fletcher responded He's a proto star So what I love professional wrestling And I'm excited at the prospect of wrestling one of my friends I haven't seen in years. Someone who has been

underappreciated for years. We'll finally have the chance to spread his wings and create the professional wrestling he loves. Spread your tiny wings and fly away. Let people be excited and live with a childlike sense of

wonder without feeling the need to poo-poo all over it, Colin. So let me stop there at this point in the exchange. Any thoughts on Kyle Fletcher getting into it about this or Well, I'll forgive him for saying the childlike sense of wonder because he's only, what, fucking 12 years removed from having one himself. But poo-poo? Don't poo-poo it? Don't shit all over it.

But no, he's right. Here's the Elya, and I guess the J-A-E-W is a reference to Elya that we don't get because this is all the inside underground fan type of thing. but eilia is not your normal wwe wrestler and he obviously didn't start at the performance center he wrestled in his native lands before and i'm sure he knows cow there from those independent travels in foreign lands was pointed yes ilia fits in terms of a a more in-ring-centric wrestling promotion

with younger guys and probably a faster pace of work. The only problem is, is I just question whether anybody else is serious enough or accomplished enough to hang with him doing that type of thing. But Kyle would be one of possibly the short list if they don't, again, go so far that they think they're a video game instead of trying to have a hard

competitive wrestling match, he's got a point. They'd probably be very good. So I don't see, but it's not like to what was the guy that, the guy that tweeted Colin, whoever, oh, fuck off, Colin. It's not like he's praising Seamus

who would come in and be a big pondering dip shit like he was the other company. He's not just promoing the average or stereotypical WW wrestler. He's talking about a guy that he knows that doesn't really fit that mold. So I'd cut him some slack on this. But beyond Dragonoff and, you know, accepting the idea that KFabe is dead and these guys just flip onto it every single day, do you want your wrestlers on Twitter?

You know, it went from, I'm looking forward to wrestling him to, he's my friend and I want him to create his own personal. pro wrestling magic or whatever to fuck he said there. Yes, well, I mean, they're all still in high school and fucking in drama class. So that's just a given these days. That's why we're in a state that we're in. No, I don't agree with any of that.

But the point, if he should be making it in public, the point that he's making is pretty fucking good. And then Jim Collin jump back into the fray. Oh, good Lord. He's one of those, eh? He's one of those, whatever that may be. And then Colin jumped back into the Frey, Jim. A couple images, an image from, I guess it appears to be Instagram, MJF's account,

where he posted, It's a New Day. Yes, it is. And then also from MJF's Twitter, I would assume, or maybe his Instagram. Bring that smoke, O'Shaughnessy, which was Seamus's previous name. So there's two examples of MJF who, you know what, times appears to turn it to a fanboy or whatever you want to say. I was but say now, Colin may have to take some things up with MJF, but that doesn't mean that he made a point on Kyle.

Well, here's what Colin wrote. My original post wasn't directed at you, only. Rather at how nobody in AEW gets all this attention. But a bunch of AEW talents's ears perk up as soon as someone leaves WW. It happens all the time. it just makes AEW look like WWE's little bro. To which Kyle Fletcher responded, What do you mean no one in AEW gets all this attention?

You do realize that's objectively wrong. Like we don't do multiple shows every week on television, and hundreds of social media posts, and drew more than 45,000 fans two weeks ago? To which Colin, responded, AEDW has talent like Megan Bain and Bobby Lashley, just to name a couple, who are heavy hitters. Now see, he's already here, Collins 50-50 with me on those two names already, so

come see, come see, come see. Who are heavy hitters, and none of them get the attention that the newest WWE departure gets. Ilya Draganoff will be awesome in AEW, no doubt about it. I'd just like to see the men and women that have been in AEW for a while get all this love. MJF literally said in a promo, Tony Khan brings in the newest ex-WWE guy. AEW should be all elite wrestling,

not all ex-WE. Any final thoughts on Colin there? Well, again, yeah, they're just nattering to natter at that point. I think Kyle came back with those statistics, which as Mama Cornett might have said, you're protesting too much. It's under your skin like this, but at the same time,

the other guy's one of those people that ain't going to let it go, so you get what you get. But I, again, I don't see besides the obvious issue of everybody's friends, that's why they're always mentioning even MJF.

Those guys are probably his friends. And so, you know, he's had, happy to have his friends come where everybody has friends. And they're not tweeting as much about the people in AEW because they already know that they have those friends there. It's not like, oh, I've missed Tommy so much when he moved to that other school. Well, one final tweet here from Kyle Fletcher.

Thanks for the fun, Colin. But now I know you're either an idiot or choosing to act like one for engagement. In either case, have a nice life. Blocked. All right. But you know what? See, here's the thing. I've never known this.

Maybe you can tell me this, Brian, and we'll move along. If I want to tell somebody off and then block them, I was always afraid that if I wrote them, you know, fuck you, blow me, blow me, fuck you. And then sent that and then blocked them that they wouldn't see the message that I'd written to blow me, blow me, fuck you. So I send the blomby, blow me, fuck you. So I send the blomby, bloody, fuck you,

and then I go back if I remember and block them later after they've had time to look at it. But am I just taking an extra step there? Or does it count as long as I don't block them till after I've sent the message? I think the way you're doing it is the way Twitter used to be. The way it works now, I think even if you block them, they could see it. It's just they can't interact with it or anything.

Also, they're just muzzled. Yeah. They can't respond. I think so, yeah. That's why the fucking crime rates are going up because people are being driven to violence because they can't respond on Twitter. Well, we will stay on top of this story. Ilya Draganoff coming to AW and Kyle Fletcher and his big feud with Colin. Not our Colin, his own Colin.

Colin! Jim, as we move on here with the show, I want to ask you about some breaking news as we are recording. Any thoughts on the news of the passing of Bob Mackie at the age of 87? I was not aware of this. I didn't know. Well, apparently he broke and then they reported it. Bob Mackie, can you imagine how often he got to look at the fine form of share up close and personal in the 70s? If that didn't kill him, no wonder he lived to be almost 90.

Well, I have a quote here from a New York Times article talking about share, Bob Mackey noted that she was built just like Miss Burnett, a perfect size six with no cleavage, a human clotheshanger. So it sounds like he had a pretty easy job. I don't know if I would say that Cher was built like Carol Burnett. What the, no. I never felt the same way about Carol Burnett as I felt about Share in 1974. I think, no.

Were you a, well, he, of course, was the costume designer for the Carol Burnett show for a number of years, but speaking of Share, Sunny and Cher, then just Share, did you watch those shows? Yes. I, he had the, Sunny and Share, and then the, I didn't watch Sunny's solo show, but I watched Scher's solo show. Say that, Sunny and Cher both had solo shows, but Sunny's show was solo in more ways than one. There was only one rating. That was one person was watching.

watching that show. Does everybody watch Share for obvious reasons? I hated Sonny, because he was standing next to Share. What'd you think in general of the old variety show that's kind of gone away completely, and it wasn't just that one, but various other acts from the Brady Bunch on down

had shows that went for years or shows that went for weeks? What do you think of the variety show? Well, it was the same thing as the Battle Royal in wrestling, Brian. It was overdone and then prostituted and watered down when you had people that knew how to host variety shows and you had variety show performers

that could perform on the variety shows, Milton Burrell's Texaco Star Theater for heaven's sake, or Carol Burnett, or Jackie Gleason on Saturday nights, or what, those were great variety shows. But then you had the Starland Vocal Band got a summer replacement variety show. And so did she. Fields and Yarnel, by the way, I believe, at one point.

I didn't know that. I think they got six episodes. The Jackson's, right? They had a variety show. Yeah, but they should have just put them on for the whole hour. They shouldn't have been hosts. It was a poor use of Michael's time and talents. But no, we used to get to watch the plate spinning

and the fucking acrobatic dog and the goddamn seal that could count to 14 and all that cool shit. And that's all gone away because there is no variety in entertainment anymore. What did you think of Battle of the Network stars? I loved it because so many of the fucking female stars did not wear sports bras. Especially during the water events. So this is all right about 75, 76. I was noticing these things.

Let's keep going. What do you think of Linda Carter, Wonder Woman? You know what? no, she was too perfect. What? Too perfect, too perfect and no personality. I want it a little more fucking personality. One of the greatest physiques on a woman.

Exactly, too perfect. It's unattainable. Too perfect. And she looked like she would fucking actually question if you attempted to make her do, I don't know, acts you may have seen in some German video. All right. Well, they didn't really distribute those back,

been in the 70s. I think we're free of this conversation. Jim Charlie's Angels. Who's your favorite angel? My favorite angel would have would have been Farah just because she didn't wear out her welcome. She was there. She showed nipples. She fucking sold a poster and she was gone. All right. No love for Jacqueline Smith. Surprised here. Jim, Three's company. What'd you think of three's company? Actually, I think my favorite one was fucking John Ritter out of the the whole bunch of them. Didn't care for Joyce DeWitt and Suzanne Summers was a poor, poor girls Farah Fawcett.

You really? I think Suzanne Summers was actually pretty amazing in that role. They should have got Carol Wayne. All right. I don't know where else we can go from here, Jim. I'm trying to think of other TV shows with women I could ask you about. Jim, what about Maud? What do you think of Maud? Well, and then there's Maud. Sooner later, you're going to get in trouble here.

I like the first season when the theme song was six minutes long. What did you think of the episode where Adrian Barbeau was out there dancing? Remember that episode? The clips always go around and you always see it. You know, I told you I got an autographed picture of her right now. Yeah, Miss wrestling. One of the fans sent it to me because they saw her at a comic con or whatever,

but she was miss wrestling. Yeah, Miss wrestling. Yeah, Miss Wrestling. Adrian Barba. She was good in the fog, too. Have you seen John Carpenter lately? I have not. How fucking old is he? I can't believe they were married.

He looks like an 87-year-old zombie now. Just, I mean, just erosion has set in. The fact that they were married, do you think she ever said anything to Piper? When they lived was happening about like, oh, yeah, I used to know Roy Shire, that fucking dirty old pussy shit. Spinning on the floor and calling me a whore, just awful, man. I wonder. I don't know how much time they spent together.

All right, well, once again, we send our sympathies to the friends and fans of Bob Mackey, but we thank him for this great segment here. Jim, as we move on here with the show, not a surprise. Let's talk about the biggest wrestling promotion going today, the most popular one, it seems. Rick Flair's Twitter, there's a tweet going around, tweet going around he put it out and everyone sent it to us. Apparently a rumor went around earlier this week.

Somebody stop him, stop him, stop him, stop him. Rumor went around earlier this week that Rick Flair was returning to WWE. There was a quote attached to it that he had talked to Hunter, they were good, he was going to be at the Royal Rumble, and then it turns at the quote in question maybe from a 2003 interview. Wait a bit, wait of it.

I was because the Royal Rumbles in January. This is still September. That would be a slow developing fucking reunion, but now it's from years ago this interview was, is what you're saying. I want to say I read that it was on the Booker T podcast, but I'm not certain,

but it was an older interview they repurposed for whatever reason and some wrestling news aggregator took it and ran with it and other people said, oh shit, this is. a story. Let's run with it. And it turns out it was an old interview, but Rick Flair had a response.

Here's his tweet, September 13th, 1019 a.m. I'm seeing all the rumors online about me being back with WWE. Number one, it is disrespectful.

Number two, it's not true. I have always been friends. Wouldn't that? Wouldn't that been number one? Shouldn't it have been number one, the veracity or lack thereof of the claim, and then number two, the effect that it has on the psyches of those who have heard it? Yeah, Jim, when you see something false written about you online as your first comment, you know, that's disrespectful.

Yeah. That racist monkey was of age. I don't know where they're getting this stuff from. I have always been friends with Hunter. Nothing has changed with our friendship. We both have mutual respect for each other. My daughter Charlotte works for WWE, and I cheer her on in the company. I am unable to work for WW because I work for AEW and TonyCon. I am very loyal to him as he allows me the freedom to pursue all of my business ventures

and opportunities like Flair spirits all of my signings Wu Energy and NASCAR NASCAR What does he have to do with NASCAR Tony and I are personal friends

And he grew up watching me I would never ever disrespect him Please stop with the online rumors I am happy where I am in my life And attaches a photo of Rick Flair and Sting with Tony Kahn in the middle. The monkey in the middle. Well, first off, if he works for Tony Kahn, what does he do for Tony?

I know Tony gives him opportunity to do all of his outside projects. Does he do any inside projects? When is the last time that Rick Flair did anything for AEW? I don't remember. Tony may be said, yes, go do more outside. What? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, obviously all these different ventures here, Wu Energy, Flair Spir.

Woo Wings! What, where is Wu? Type in Wu Wings. What is the current status of Wu Wings? How many O's? Let's see. Let's give us a shot. I would say at least two, maybe three.

Woo Wings. Here's the official Twitter page. They haven't posted in four years. Oh, has it been that long? It can't be that long. I guess it has been 2022. They don't have an official website, apparently. Can you get a Wu Wing anywhere anymore?

Woo wings, it apparently, is this a real value? Woo? Oh no, this is Wu's wings. W-O-O-O-A-postrophe-S. These are the wings that are the property of Wu, not Property of Mr. Wu. Not Wu's, not Wings. Woo-Wing.

We've put Woo-Wings. You can get a Woo's wing. but not a woo wing. Well, hold on. If I go to the website, Rickflarewings.com, this site can't be reached. Uh-oh.

Yeah, the Wu-Wing's site is down. Uh, they still have the Rickflare logo up. Wu-Wings, legendary flavors, world championship wings now open. For info on becoming a restaurant partner, info at Rickflarewings.com. Rickflairwings.com appears to be down. Cannot be reached for comment.

So that's, uh, what about his marijuana? Well, he's suing them, right? There's a lawsuit there with the marijuana. I think, is he, yeah. Was he suing them? No, the spirits is good. So the boo, he's not suing the booze.

He's suing the booze. He's suing the booze. I think Rick, does anyone who should sue the booze? It may be Rick Flare. It might be Rick Flair. It's like suing the tobacco companies. Like, the time has come. I'm suing the booze.

It's like that's, that's Seinfeld episode, when, when Kramer was going to the tobacco company. Just look at this man. Right there, the jury can just look at this man. I'm on Rick Flair's Twitter page looking for anything about the NASCAR Association. There's a retweet from Garage 66 and MBM Motorsports. New Garage 6 die cast drop as we gear up for the Bristol Night Race. Get your Rick Flair Flair Spirits diecast reserve today.

and I think it's like a little toy car with like the Rick Flair it's Rick Flair on the hood of the car holding a bottle of vodka Oh my God saying woo So yeah I actually I may have to order one of these Let me go to the fucking page

You got a sale You got a sale look at that What is what is mothers against drunk driving have to say about the toy car with Rick Flair Holded a bottle of hooch on the hood Here's a picture of three three Rolexes in a case for one Rolex, but he put the other two next to it, trying to figure out

which one I'm wearing to the party tonight at Woodbridge Brewing Coe in New Jersey. So apparently he's hanging on Jersey a little bit. Do you know I've never had three watches at the same time in my life? Most people probably have not had two watches at the same time in their life. I have right now I have a San Jose Sharks watch with a Velcro band that one of the fans sent

because they knew Stace was a fan and and that's what I've been wearing for the last six or eight years now Hey one final tweet here because it's a throwback to a name mentioned previously Uh oh See you tomorrow at the Wisconsin card show in Milwaukee

I'll be signing autographs and taking photos brought to you by Steve Solomon Sports Group Woo! That was the man who wanted to pay for the Gold robe. We didn't talk about this. Apparently the gold robe was the robe on the WWE TV show that he's... Either he sold it or they traded it. I forget exactly.

Oh, no. That WWE has in their warehouse. The one he was going to track down who had stolen? I had about 15 people get in touch with us to say, that's the one on the TV show. And I remember the TV show. We watched it on A&E. that was when Top Dollar was like shaking down the historians for their shit. That was a weird concept for a show there, actually. Not that I think about it, but yeah.

If you remember, the whole episode was about Rick Flares Robs, about the trading of Rick Flares Robs, the losing of Rick Fries. Well, wait a minute. Was that the one that little Natch had, Charles Robinson? I think it may have been. Well, if that's the case, the Rick's the one that gave it to him. And then was there one... He's been friends with Charles Robinson for 30 years.

Now, did he know when he was doing all that? Was he accusing WWE of stealing the robe? And he's like, I know you are. You have it. You'll hear from my lawyer in Boston. I don't know. But if that's, somebody's got to do with more time on their hands than we'd have,

has to do this research on was he trying to find the gold robe that was actually the robe on television that they got from, I swear they got that from Charles Robinson, right? Because he was heartbroken. They said they were going to take it away from him, but they were just going to make it an exhibit or something. I dare. Yeah, by the way, Jim, I'm going to look up the Charles Robinson thing,

but here's a follow-up. It's race week. I'll do it in Flair. It's race week for Josh Belicki and the Flare Spare spirits race car. LFG. Woo! So apparently he, this Josh, Balicki is a Wisconsin

NASCAR driver. Racer of anything with a motor is what his bio says, and that's the driver of the Rick Flair's spirits. In that case, I wonder if he'd like to hop on and take my electric shaver for a spin. Should Rick Flair be involved with WWE right now?

Well, I don't. They may be the only ones he's not involved with in the entire world, not just wrestling. I guess the NASCAR could tie in, as you said, somebody has a Rick Flair

Spirits race car, and I guess these people are paying him for name likeness and and or endorsement on occasion, but I don't know. If I was Rick, I wouldn't want to be under contract to the WW now because there's so much higher profile than AEW.

you, Rick could imagine this. I know it's crazy, but just humor me. Take this ride with me. Rick could say something controversial at a public place and get canned by the WWE. And if he was signed with the WWE, have to give up all this outside stuff. Now that may be a good thing,

considering as many of these outside people that he sued because they've conned him or mismanaged him or done whatever. He's had multiple people representing him. Remember when he had the women from South Carolina representing him as the agents? And then, oh, yeah. He had to fallout with them

and Custis one woman on Twitter. I don't know. There should be one trusted person doing Rick Flair's deals. And I don't think there is. So as long as he's with Tony, he can do all this stuff and make all the money, whereas he wouldn't be able to do everything he wants

if he was with WWE, and WWE could cut him, and then he'd be, as Mama Cornett used to say, up shit creek without a paddle. So it's probably better that he's, at least he knows he's got a check coming from Tony. Tony never fires anybody for anything. And since he doesn't do any work there,

there's really no way for him to get any heat. Quick follow-up for you. Apparently, that's not the robe that Charles Robinson had. The robe Charles Robinson had, you may remember. It's hard to describe. It's kind of green with pinkish feathers and there's like a lion at the bottom. Oh, the lion. Yeah, the lion.

The African jungle robe thing. Right. So Charles Robinson, that was the robe that he traded to WWE. And that was, when was that? That was several years ago, but what I'm seeing here is apparently Rick Flair got it back, I guess, from WWE, and it was on an auction site for $65,000

two years ago, but I don't know what the status of this is. How does that work? W.W.E traded a robe to Charles Robinson to get the robe that Flair gave him, and somehow Flair got it back and it was being sold? I don't know. I guess.

Yeah, there's a lot of questions we need answers to, but... That's the Rick Flair Twitter update. Like I said, the most popular promotion in wrestling today. But Jim... Yes. If I had asked you at the beginning of the week to pick, yes or no, will Rick Flair issue another tweet that will be sent to us by dozens and dozens of people? You probably wouldn't have known the answer.

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To be fully transparent, we made an agreement with Pat Tanaka and gave him the necessary funds to get here after his travel arrangements fell through Wednesday night. He did not arrive for a scheduled seminar Friday night and had not been in any communication with us since Thursday evening, after attempting to call him around 15 times until 3.30 p.m. yesterday. At that time, Pat called and claimed to have been in a car wreck and had been in a car wreck and had been, been in a ditch. Wait a minute. Had been in a ditch? For how long?

So it's like Wednesday night or whatever, and nobody could find him, and he crawled out on his own? And said he should have called sooner. Back up and read me that again. And by the way, this is all one sentence. That has not been a comma or a period anywhere yet, so let me find a good start point.

He did not arrive for a scheduled seminar Friday night and had not been in any communication with us since Thursday evening after attempting to call him around 15 times until 3.30 p.m. yesterday. At that time, Pat called and claimed to have been in a car wreck and had been in a ditch

and said he should have called sooner but was trying to figure out how to get here. How to get out of the ditch. I swear to God, I'll get here, Buddy Landell, say, I swear God, I was trying to figure out how to get out of that ditch. All right.

And he was trying to figure out how to get here and was booking a flight with his miles that left at 7 p.m. And landed at 7 p.m. somehow. And asked for us to move his match to a little later on the clock. Wait, wait a minute. Hold on here. This was AIW, absolute intense wrestling, right? That is correct, yes. That is in Cleveland.

Is that not correct? Oh, I don't know. I thought it was a Chicago. Oh, Cleveland. No, you're right. It's Cleveland. It's Cleveland. Point is, Cleveland's on Eastern Times.

So a flight leaving at 7 p.m., getting to Cleveland at 7 p.m. would have to be leaving from the fucking Maritimes. Let me go back to this. Pat Tanaka asked for us to move his match for a little later on the card. It is Sunday morning. and Pat Tanaka has still not arrived and we have still not heard from him since. And this goddamn last match is tired of putting in this fucking time.

We wanted the Pat Tanaka experience and it seems we got it. We love to gamble on these wild card old timers so I'm sure we will be in this situation again with one of these guys down the road. As for Pat's flight and when it is landed, That is to be continued. That is to be continued,

but he's allegedly been up in the air for quite some time at this point. He's a very nice guy on the telephone, though when he does answer, oh, that's that way it's phrased, though when he does answer, and we wish him the best. So that's the statement from AIW. How old is Pat? Now, Pat's got to be my age now. I guess was he one in 61 60 yes uh no he's 64 he'll be 65 depending on what his birthday is

i guess maybe he has a couple different ages oh yeah there's two different ages listed here one says 1963 one says 1961 so it's one of these two if it's fitting that we don't know what year he was born oh boy but uh well i hope they fill us in whenever he gets there, because I'd like to know he's okay and, you know, nobody made off with him or anything. I have a statement here from his management. Oh, God. He's got management? Sean Ng from KWK.

They make retro wrestling figures. I have actually some of their new ones here for the next retro figure segment, the Great Kabuki and Tenru. But wait a minute. He's also agenting Pat Tanaka in the business of booking for pro wrestling. or whatever this is, yes. Or whatever this may be. Public statement regarding Pat Tanaka and AIW.

KWK Brand is aware of the concerns surrounding Pat Tanaka's recent scheduled appearance with absolute intense wrestling, AIW. First, I want to make it clear that KWK brand did not book or arrange this appearance. The booking was made directly between Pat, an AIW. Oh God, so I got nothing to do with this, folks, right off top. However, I represent Pat and have an ongoing professional relationship with him, including future bookings.

Because of that, I do not want to simply leave him to deal with this situation on his own. I have spoken directly with Pat about what happened. Based on our conversations, I believe Pat experienced genuine difficulties while traveling and became overwhelmed by the situation like a minute where's he coming from Brazil from the ditch

he was in the ditch dude but I mean he's been into wrestling business for 40 years he can't get to Cleveland without being overwhelmed but once again Pat experience he believes Pat experienced genuine difficulties while traveling and became overwhelmed by the situation. I also believe the communication during the incident was not handled properly,

and I understand why this has created concerns for promoters. I want to be very clear that I am personally vouching for Pat. Well, that is... Thankfully, you know, at your word is good as gold around here, Sean. Pat is genuinely sorry for what happened, and understands that his handling of the situation created a serious problem for the promotion. He wants to make things right

and continue working professionally. I would like to contact AEW. I would like to contact A.E.W. They wish. I would like to contact AIW directly to better understand their side and hopefully help facilitate a resolution. But I have not yet been able to connect with the promotion.

Pat has not missed a single event he was booked for over the past several years, which is why we view this as an isolated incident. That does not excuse how the situation was handled, and we want to make amends. Our hope is to reach out to AIW, and, if they are willing, work at a different date for Pat to appear. So you can sit there and wonder about whether he's going to show up this time or not. Pat is willing to travel to the event entirely on his own dime to make this right with AIW, their staff, and most importantly the fans who were expecting to see him. We understand that trust is earned through actions, not words. Pat wants the opportunity to show that this was an isolated incident and that he remains committed.

to fulfilling his professional obligations. And that is signed by Sean Ng in charge of K.W. In other words, I still want my percentage from these dates I booked him on and I'll get him there some way or another. I mean, I think it's more that, you know, please don't worry and start canceling every single thing that we booked him on because you don't know if he's out of the ditch or if the plane has landed. Oh. Oh, well. You know, I just heard this came up recently, I think, on John McAdams show. Do you think bad company would have fit with the NWA in 1989?

Paul Diamond and Pat Tanaka coming off AWA? I, 1989, I'm just trying to think because with Turner broadcasting, I'm not talking about what they fit in the locker room or in the ring. They were a good tag team. And they, Pat had, it was a second generation wrestler, had been around a business for a long time, although had, you know, every once in a while had his issues. And I think they would have been great to work with.

I don't know if TBS at that point in time, and with the revolving door of bookers, if they'd have really gotten a chance, I don't know that they had anybody that, you know, would have been pulling for them or trying to, you know, if they had been available and asked to come in, I would have vouched for them during the time that I was on the committee, but at the same point in time, you know, that nothing ever lasted.

You see what I'm saying. So would they have been up and down, would they have been another destruction crew, up and down and out and whatever? So I don't know how well they would have done, but if they'd have got with, Procket in 86, they could have been a good, we were loaded with tag teams, but they could have been a good working team, either as baby faces or heels, underneath the Road Warrior

Rock and Roll Midnight Tullian Arn level. And they still would have, they were better than the new breed. Did you ever see what I'm saying? Did you ever meet Duke Keamooka? I never did. But I thought at first he was Duke Cahanamoka from the surfing competition on ABC's wide world of sports. But no, I never got to, I met Hero Matsuda, but I never got to meet Duke.

All right. Well, we will stay on top of the Pat Tanaka Beat, presenting both sides of the story here. And I believe you have something, you said. Well, something just crossed the desk here as we were taking our last break. and it's something we talked about in the past or related to it. But I've never heard this story either, but this is from the Ottawa citizen in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. And the opening paragraph is, before an Ottawa jury could decide whether John Zaghetti had earned $3,000 by pinning a massive black bear at a wrestling match, his lawyer, Arthur Cogan, had to answer this fundamental question. The bear even have shoulders.

This was actually a case, Brian, and we've talked about the wrestling bear and how I missed the wrestling bear, the bear of my childhood, et cetera. They actually went to court with this. This is a souped up version of the fucking sugarhole challenge and our friend William Harding in Frankfurt. Would you like to hear this real quick?

Yeah, I don't know about this. It was July, 1967. and they have the newspaper at wrestling in Lansdowne Park. And it was Edward Carpontier and Lord Layton against the masked Yankees, Little Brutus against Jamaica Kid, the midget match. And on the card, also Bulldog Brower is on it. And also it says, Terrible Ted versus Gene Dubois. And obviously, Jean Dubois was Dave McKigney,

who was the bear guy in Ontario in 60s and 70s, right? But up at the top of this ad, it says $3,000 reward to anybody who can pin terrible Ted. So they were not only, because even in Tennessee, they never let the fans get in the ring with the bear, right? It was always for one of the boys. But they were doing the fucking challenge. wherever you pin, you know, so they'd say people would come to see what would happen, right?

And somebody might try to take them up on it. So back to this article, there was terrible Ted, a seven-foot black bear whose weight was billed at an improbably precise 692 pounds. Ted would fight his owner, Gene Dubois, the wrestling name of Dave McKigney, along with anyone else who dared get in the ring with him, an event promoter Howard Darwin of Ottawa 67's, the London Knights and the Ottawa Lynx fame. Apparently this was a local promoter at the time.

Had offered a $3,000 reward, the equivalent today of almost $27,000 to anybody who could pin Ted. So boom, boom, boom, I'm going to slip down. The one guy that answers the challenge is a guy, named Zegetti, right? What's his fucking first name? John Zagetti. And apparently this guy was not only a 36-year-old 220-pound Hungarian welder who was also familiar with fighting 400-pound pigs from his native Hungary when he was a farmer or whatever, and he desperately needed the money. His truck had been hit by lightning and needed replacing.

The match lasted about four and a half minutes. He lasted four and a half minutes with this bear. And Sagetti later testified that he got his arms around Ted, lifted the bear slightly and twisted him off balance, bringing him onto his back. Sagetti ended up laying across Ted's chest. It was Dubois, though, who ended the match, kicking one of Sagittie's arms to break the hold,

and then removing Ted's muzzle. It's like the bear dropping the strap. and that's what even when when the bear would wrestle one of the boys the trainer would still keep a hold of the leash which was like i don't know eight feet or whatever or the chain or whatever they were using leather leash and so the trainer was always there and in one of these when the bear is wrestling of Mark the trainer is kind of there not that you ever had to help the bear until now but just to make sure the bear doesn't like kill the fucking guy

right yeah so so Getty scrambled out of the ring while the crowd took the Hungarian side with shouts of fake phony and put the muzzle back on Sagetti was convinced he had won, the promoter disagreed and didn't pay the $3,000, and Sagetti sued. The case landed with Kogan,

the lawyer who thought that he could win. So they had to, the defense eventually conceded both that Darwin had made the offer and that Sagetti had accepted it. They had to decide whether Sagetti had pinned the bear. So, Kogan said, I treated the bear as an opponent and an athletic event,

and an opponent has to have shoulders to be pinned. And under Ontario wrestling rules, the shoulders had to be held to the mat for at least three seconds. So the first question, Kogan recalls, was, does a bear have shoulders? Which is how in May 1968, a bear skeleton ended up under a sheet in an Ottawa courtroom. Oh, my God. I couldn't bring a bear into court, Cogan says, but I sort of did. He went to the National Museum of Natural Sciences,

now the Canadian Museum of Nature on McLeod Street, and got the curator of mammals not only to agree to testify, but also loaned him a polar bear skeleton. The skeleton was transported to the courthouse hidden beneath a sheet before the six jurors entered. Then he recalled. calls he pulled the sheet away in dramatic fashion. Behold a bear. And he showed the people the fucking soldier structure, shoulder structure, and explained why that a bear could lie flat

against the ground, could God, I'm trying to read and speak at the same time. And he also said that a standing bear isn't that stable and could be pushed over without much difficulty. So They proved that a bear could anatomically be pinned. And then the witnesses, three spectators, testified that he had been on the bear somewhere between six and ten seconds. But guess who disagreed, Brian, on the amount of time that he was on the bear? Who? Referee Kenneth Tiger Tasker. The old Toronto referee.

that was at all the fucking famous clips and pictures and the magazines and everything, he said that Sagetti hadn't held Ted down long enough. And apparently that may have decided the case because he was the referee, but the trial or the civil trial lasted three days, went to the jury on May the 8th. They deliberated at 320 that afternoon until 9 o'clock. and they returned to say they couldn't reach a verdict. He sent them back.

And at 1140, 8 hours and 20 minutes after beginning deliberations, the longest civil jury deliberation that court officials could remember, they returned with the verdict. He hadn't penned him. And then it was announced that Terrible Ted returned to Ottawa as part of the brand new civic centers, first ever wrestling card, and the promoter tried to book Sagetti.

This sounds like when they tried to get the cowboy to come back to Russell Sputnik in the Ellis Auditorium. He tried to book him, and he would pay spaghetti $3,000, win or lose if he got back in the ring with Ted. And apparently they billed him as Mr. X, right? but they did it. 3,200 people on June 11th,

1968, terrible Ted disposed of Mr. X in short order. And the attorney basically says that, yeah, Sigetti went flying out of the ring and Howard paid the three grand, so Sagetti got his money. They got a new attraction for the opening of the Civic Center. And the lawyer got a story

that he's been telling to other lawyers for 60 years. Why is Mr. X? Apparently this was a settlement that the attorney worked out somehow because that he didn't want to be advertised as I guess this guy probably under his own name

had gotten enough fucking grief anyway through this whole thing. So he said, put him under a mask and pay him and he'll wrestle the fucking bear and that was a settlement. What kind of a fucking courthouse? I don't know what the fuck is going on

but yeah the bear skeleton here it's got shoulders see now that is the only way that Jim heard could have gotten the hunchbacks over is if he'd have brought in a genuine hunchback skeleton

well if only someone was in the room to suggest that but apparently just want to share your good ideas now well I didn't think of it to be honest I didn't know one that had recently died and I'm thinking they don't have the budget

to dig one up. All right. But nevertheless, the wrestling bear. Well, Jim, this is not going to be one of the longer episodes of the drive-through. We're going to call it in a minute, but another... Oh, it seems like it's lasted forever. It sure does sometimes, but we have another... We have another statement put out by KWK. Uh-oh.

Of course, earlier we talked about their statement representing Pat Tanaka. This is a separate incident. KWK Brand's statement regarding PG-13 action figures Of course PG-13, J-C. Ice and Wolfie D. K-W-K-Brand would like to address the recent public comments regarding the planned PG-13 K-Fabe Heroes figures featuring J-C-E-E-E-D. After speaking directly with Wolfie D,

we agreed that the PG-13 project cannot move forward under the current circumstances. This project was developed as a partnership with an agreement that the talent involved would support and promote the product. Recent public comments have breached that understanding and created a serious breakdown in the professional relationship.

Well, wait a minute. I thought they haven't, their perspective, figures or future figures, figures that were coming out, right? How have Jamie and Wolfie knocked their own figures before they're even released? Is what you're saying? I will research that in a second. I will say that a few days ago, images came out, mock-ups, digital renderings of what the PG-13 figures are supposed to look like when they're finally produced and made,

which would be down the road. We'll see if that ties into this. Most seriously, comments directed towards KWK brand, our team, and our manufacturing partners, including racist and discriminatory remarks. We will not accept or tolerate this conduct towards the people who work with us. I have a feeling I know of which one they also spoke to on the phone. Or help produce our products. We understand that talent may dislike a prototype, render, or finish product.

constructive criticism is completely acceptable. Publicly attacking the company, its people, and its partners, while failing to provide the promotional support agreed, is something entirely different. We also want to make one thing very clear. This is not about Wolfie D. Wolfie has been 200% supportive of this project from day one. He has been professional,

enthusiastic and respectful throughout the entire process, and we greatly appreciate our relationship with him. They don't want to name any names, but it's not one of the two people that it could possibly be. At this point, the PG-13 project will be dropped unless Jamie Dundee makes a genuine public apology and takes responsibility for his recent comments and actions. Maybe they do want to name names.

Because the comments were made publicly. And his Social Security number is... Because the comments were made publicly, we believe any resolution must also be public. If the apology does not happen, KWK Brand will end the PG-13 project and request a return of funds previously paid to both parties in connection with the project.

Now, do you think if the apology has to be made in public because the comments were made in public, you think the apology has to be made while Jamie's drunk? Because the, well, I don't know for sure. We are not interested in a public back and forth. Professional relationships require mutual respect, accountability, and good faith. we sincerely appreciate everyone who supported PG-13 and apologize to the collectors

who are looking forward to these figures so well he kind of explained exactly what it was there well and I'm just wondering well I guess he had to say something but since we didn't hear about what the comments were we just heard about what the response was

to the comments I was wondering if he amped simplified it, but they had to give some explanation for not issuing the products that they said they were going to issue. But so Jamie is noted for giving careful thought to any issue that arises and then making a measured response to same. So do you think he saw the fucking pictures of the prototype or whatever? it just, I don't know, got on the radio and said, fuck these motherfuckers. Well, I think we can confirm that's exactly what happened. I'm on Jamie.

He posted a picture of a Brian Christopher figure prototype from figure collections, which is coming out. It looks really good. They're doing various versions of Brian Christopher. Here's what Jamie wrote. I will stop when it's something I cannot read on the air. Also, I just want to note, his spelling is all over the place.

Dollars within two lines is spelled D-L-O-L-L-A-R-S and D-O-L-L-A-R-S. But that's just him, I guess. And he posted the mock-ups that Sean Inge posted. This is what PG-13 looks like. This is what Brian Christopher looks like. Correct. But the K-W-K brand,

sculpture can't seem to get this through his slanted eye. Oh, there it is. Oh, Jesus. What we look like. So, Sean Ng, you fucking think I give a fuck about your pissy little $1,500 and one set of those garbage-looking things you call

good? You should take that $1,500 and send that sculptor to school for sculpting. And I'll do you but better one than that. I'll take all your shitty garbage figures and bury them with my dad on third.

Jesus Christ. Jesus. Age Christ. It's a fucking action figure. Well, I'll finish at least this. Wow. And bury them with my dad on Thursday to save those of us that are still alive. So we won't have to see that shit you call a company instead of crying about the cost of

production. You wouldn't have to have your performance. production. You wouldn't have to... Excuse me, it's all over the place. You wouldn't have to have if your production wasn't garbage. So here's the KWK brand's version of PG-13. Fucking garbage like Sean

Eng stands for Sean not good at making figures. And he goes on from there and another... He goes on from there? Another racist comment and then... And then he posted... He's gone on so far. He's almost met himself coming back around the other

side. And then he posted a... personal comment, a DM he got from Seaning saying that, hey, I saw your thing, maybe we should just cancel the figures. And Jamie wrote back, fuck you, motherfucker, but it's spelled F-U-V-K-Y-O-U-B-D-L-J-V-E-T-E-D, mother,

F-I-K-C-K-D-R. But it's one of those things where you see all the words jumbled up, you can tell exactly what he means. There's another one. Fucking garbage. Looks like toad, fat Chinese fucking sump wheeler, right? Kevin Lawler? Wait, stop.

No, no. Stop. Back up. Give me that again. I'm going to try to not laugh over the top of it. That last line. These comments are not those of Jim Cornett or this program or my company or anyone else who's reasonable, but this is Jamie Dundee.

Fucking garbage. Looks like tolled fat Chinese fucking sump. Wheeler, right? Kevin Lawler and Kevin Lawler is tagged. Worst job ever agree or disagree? As a present, Kevin. I don't think all of those are actually all words. Kevin Lawler has not responded as a present.

Here's another post and, again, another shot of the DM he got from Sean. You're a mistake thinking you can run a figure company. Stick with what you're good at killing cats and selling them for chicken. Jesus. Oh boy Holy shit Yeah Why would you want to work with him

After this And then yeah It gets more More racist from there There's a photo of another Jamie Dundee figure It appears giving the middle finger And Jamie wrote

To the KWK sculptor Take notes KWK brand That's what I look like Not the shit you tried to pass off And a good job Blockock fucking garbage

and he's just blah ha ha ha ha ha garbage garbage company boys fnt t waste your time on these low budget ass Rudy putt Reggie B fine would say so Sean Ing fuck you oh by the way

you want to pull something pull this dick out of your mouth oh gosh laugh my ass off Aha. Holy God. You ought to pull something. Pull his dick out of your mouth. And here's another one.

Fuck you in your ass, Mr. Miyagi. I mean, just, it's bad. Yeah, I mean, why would you... First of all, he screwed up a payday for Wolfie D., which is pretty... Poor Wolfie! He did. He did nothing.

How fuck did Wolfie do? Hey, Jamie, I'll give you some money to make a figure of you for, you know, that big Jamie Dundee figure. audience. All right, let me fuck this up. Let me say. Well, that's the, this is this week's retro figure report.

We'll have a regular segment of this, but KWK in the news and dealing with lunatics seemingly in every part of the country, whether they're in a ditch, or whether they're on Twitter in Kentucky. That's the Jamie Dundee.

Any final thoughts on... Anyway, is it? He's not Kentucky. according to his Wikipedia or is a Facebook page here lives in Seabree Kentucky good Lord

where's that almost nowhere I would have figured he might live in Nashville or I heard he lived in Evansville Indiana for a while but Seabree Kentucky is like a spot show town I think

out toward Hopkinsville way I believe I could be mistaken, because nobody's been there in a long time. Well, if anyone's looking to make some Jamie Dundee figures, apparently he may be available. Get in touch with him there, but Jim, with that,

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