Jocko Podcast - 101: How "The Hundred Rules of War" Will Help You Rule Your Life.

Episode Date: November 22, 2017

0:00:00 - Opening 0:18:34 - "The Hundred Rules of War", by Tsukahara Bokuden. 1:48:24 - Final thoughts and take-aways. 1:56:52 - Support: JockoStore stuff, Super Krill Oil and Joint Warfare..., Origin Brand Apparel and Jocko Gi, with Jocko White Tea,  Onnit Fitness stuff, and Psychological Warfare (on iTunes). Extreme Ownership (book), The Discipline Equals Freedom Field Manual.  2:20:58 - Closing Gratitude.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Jocko podcast number 101. With Echo Charles and me, Jocco Willink. Good evening, Echo. Good evening. Second Lieutenant Bernard Wilfred Long was a smart young man who went to Birmingham University at age of 16 back in 1912. He was commissioned in the West Yorkshire Regiment in January of 1916. And Bernard or Bern,
Starting point is 00:00:30 As his family called him, served in World War I in France. And he wrote this letter to his father in early August of 1916. He said, we've been having it awfully wet here during the last day or two. And my word, talk about mud. It's simply awful. I get into mud up to my knees. I can take a sporting risk as well as any of. them and shells have got no fear for me i've seen great big burly chaps who do nothing but curse and
Starting point is 00:01:10 drink and get down and pray like a child when there is a bombardment on and they don't care who sees them and no one dares to joke about it i've just heard from a pal of mine from brockton who went down to the sum when i came here and he says he's been over the lid seven times in attacks on the bosh line. Pretty awful that, isn't it? And I marvel he's alive to tell the tale. He wrote another letter to his mother on August 11th, 1917. I am off by an early train tomorrow for the rest billets behind the firing line where we shall be for a time to get to know our men, etc. I am going up with two pals and we are all pleased. I shall think of you all while I'm up. I'm there and know you won't forget me we're fighting hard now and is a serious game we're all
Starting point is 00:02:11 ready to lay down everything if need be and if god wills i'm ready so goodbye and wish me luck your loving son burn and second lieutenant bernard wilfrid long was killed in action at age 21 at the Battle of Langmark on August 16th, 1917. 400 men from his battalion went into action. All 10 of the officers from the battalion died, along with 264 of the men. On September 11th, 1918, there's another young man, Sergeant David Kerr,
Starting point is 00:03:14 an American who dropped out of Columbia University to fight in World War I, he sent a letter to his mother the day before the attack on St. Miel in France. And he wrote, tomorrow the first totally American drive commences, and it gives me inexpressible joy and pride to know that I shall be present to do my share. Should I go under, therefore, I want you to know that I went with. without any terror of death, and that my chief worry is the grief my death will bring to those so dear to me. Since having found myself and Mary, there has been much to make life sweet and glorious.
Starting point is 00:04:07 But death, while distasteful, is in no way terrible. I feel wonderfully strong to do my share well, and for my sake, you must try to drown your sorrow in the pride and satisfaction, The knowledge that I died well and so clean a cause as is ours should bring you. Remember how proud I have always been of your superb pluck.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Keep Elizabeth's future in mind and don't permit my death to bow your head. My personal belongings will all be sent to you. Your good taste will tell you which to send to Mary. May God bless and keep you dear heart and be kind to little Elizabeth and those others I loved so well. David The end And while the Americans actually broke through the German lines
Starting point is 00:05:09 And the attack They suffered 7,000 casualties In 72 hours of fighting And 20 year old David Kerr Was among the dead And
Starting point is 00:05:28 That attitude That attitude where death is not feared. We can find examples of it in so many different places. A great example is from the American Civil War, from a man by the name of Sullivan Baloo.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Now, after the battle at Fort Sumner, in 1861, President Lincoln called on the states to form up militia troops to put down the rebellion. And Sullivan Baloo, who was born in Rhode Island, was one of those volunteers. And he was commissioned a major in the second Rhode Island Infantry Regiment. He was third in command.
Starting point is 00:06:29 And the Second Rhode Island Infantry Regiment moved to Washington and joined the Union Army of northeastern Virginia. and on the 14th of July 1861 from Washington, Sullivan wrote his wife a letter. And here are some excerpts from that letter. My very dear Sarah, the indications are very strong that we shall move in a few days, perhaps tomorrow. Lest I should not be able to write you again, I feel impelled to write lines that may fall under your eye when I shall be no more.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Our movement may be one of a few days duration and full of pleasure. And it may be one of severe conflict and death to me. Not my will, but thine, O God, be done. If it is necessary that I should fall on the battlefield for my country, I am ready. I have no misgivings about or lack of confidence in the cause in which I am engaged, and my courage does not halt or falter. I know how strongly American civilization now leans upon the triumph of the government and how great a debt we owe to those who went before us through the blood and suffering of the revolution.
Starting point is 00:08:02 And I am willing, perfectly willing, to lay down all my joys in this life to help maintain this government and to pay that debt. But my dear wife, when I know that with my own joys, I lay down nearly all of yours and replace them in this life with cares and sorrows. When, after having eaten for long years, the bitter fruit of orphanage myself, I must offer it as their only sustenance to my dear little children. Is it weak or dishonorable while the banner of my purpose floats calmly and proudly in the breeze that my unbounded love for you, my darling wife and children, should struggle in fierce,
Starting point is 00:08:54 though useless, contest with my love of country? I cannot describe to you my feelings on this calm summer night when two thousand men are sleeping around me, many of them enjoying their last, perhaps, before that of death. And I, suspicious that death is creeping behind me with his fatal dart am communing with God, my country, and you. Sarah, my love for you is deathless. It seems to bind me to you with mighty cables that nothing but the omnipotence could break. And yet, my love of country comes over me like a strong wind and bears me irresistibly on with these chains to the battlefield. The memories of blissful moments I've spent with you come creeping over me. And I feel most gratified to God and to you that I have enjoyed them so long.
Starting point is 00:10:04 And hard it is for me to give them up and burn to ashes, the hopes of future years. When God willing, we might still have lived and loved together and seen our sons grow up honorable to manhood around us. I have, I know, but few small claims upon divine providence, but something whispers to me. perhaps it is wafted perhaps it is the wafted prayer of my little Edgar that I shall return to my loved ones unharmed
Starting point is 00:10:37 if I do not my dear Sarah never forget how much I love you and when my last breath escapes me on the battlefield it will whisper your name forgive my many faults and the many pains I have caused you how faultless and foolish I have oftentimes been
Starting point is 00:11:03 How gladly would I wash out with my tears every little spot upon your happiness and struggle with all the misfortune of this world to shield you and my children from harm? But I cannot. I must watch you from the spirit land and hover near you while you buffet the storms with your precious little freight and wait with sad patience till we meet to part no more. But, oh, Sarah, if the dead can come back to this earth and flit unseen around those they love, I shall always be near you. In the garish day and in the darkest night amidst your happiest scenes and gloomiest hours, always, always. And if there be a soft breeze upon your cheek, it shall be my breath. Or if cool air fans your throbbing temple. It shall be my spirit passing by.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Sarah do not mourn me dead. Think I am gone and wait for thee. For we shall meet again. As for my little boys, they will grow as I have done. And never know a father's love and care. Little Willie is too young to remember me long, and my blue-eyed Edgar will keep my frolics with him amongst the dimest memories of his childhood.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Sarah, I have unlimited confidence in your maternal care and your development of their characters. I call God's blessing upon them. Oh, Sarah, I wait for you there. Come to me and lead thither, my children, Sullivan. And on July 21st, 1861, the regiment took part in the first Battle of Bull Run. and as one of the senior officers, Sullivan went in front on horse back to direct his men and he was hit by a cannon ball that tore off his right leg and also killed his horse. And he died from his wound a week after the battle while a prisoner of the Confederate Army at age 32. Again, an individual obviously prepared to make the ultimate sacrifice.
Starting point is 00:14:03 And we know that the enemy can be equally prepared to die. And we saw that clearly from the kamikaze pilots from Japan in World War II. One of those young kamikaze pilots was named Yukio Araki. And he was a member of the 72nd Shimbu Squadron. And he wrote this letter, Dear Father and Mother, I trust you and my brothers are doing well recently. It has been decided that I will go at last to take part in the Battle of Okinawa as a member of the special attack forces. I am deeply moved.
Starting point is 00:15:02 I only look forward to sinking a ship with a single blow. When I look back, I apologize for not being devoted to you in any way for some 10 years to this day. through teaching by various senior officers after I entered the army, I now devote myself to my country as a special attack force member. Please find pleasure and your desire for my loyalty to the emperor and devotion to parents. I have no regrets. I just go forward on my path. I ask that you teach my three brothers so they can serve our country as noble airmen.
Starting point is 00:15:48 I sincerely hope you take good care of yourselves and make strenuous efforts on the home front. Please give my regards to all my relatives and to everyone in the Neighborhood Association. Sayanara. Ukio, Araki. And he did indeed die at the age of 17 in a suicide attack on American ships near Okinawa. on May 27th, 1945. And the Japanese also imposed their willingness to die on their people.
Starting point is 00:16:37 And here is a description of that brutal imposition from American sailors. It's from the journal of an American sailor named James Fahey, who served on the USS Montpelier in the Pacific, and this is what he wrote on November 10th, 1943. This afternoon, we came across a raft with four live Japs in it. As the destroyer Spence came close to the raft,
Starting point is 00:17:09 the Japs opened up with machine gun at the destroyer. The Jap officer then put the gun in each man's mouth and fired, blowing out the back of each man's skull. One of the Japs did not want to die for the emperor and put up a struggle. The others held him down. The officer was the last to die. He also blew his brains out. The Spence went in to investigate. All the bodies had disappeared into the water. There was nothing left but blood and an empty raft. Swarms of sharks everywhere. The sharks ate well today. We went to battle stations. And at 10 p.m. we were attacked. by enemy planes. Later, darkness descended.
Starting point is 00:18:14 And the rains came. And just coming off the episode that we did with Musashi, who obviously overcame his fear of death. And I got a book in the mail from Japan. And the book was called The Hundred Rules of, of war and it's from someone in Japan named Eric.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Eric Shahan, who turned out to be the actual translator of this book. And he's translated a bunch of other Japanese books on martial arts. And he asked me if this book, The Hundred Rules of War, if any of the rules inside this book apply to modern warfare. And I read through the book and I read the book and I read the book and it came to a very clear answer that yes, not only do many of the rules in the book apply to modern warfare, they also apply to life in general, like many of the rules that I talk about. And this book, the 100 Rules of War, which by the way only has 97 rules in it, but the book was originally
Starting point is 00:19:45 written by Tsukahara Bokuddin, who lived from 1489 to 1571. That's actually before Musashi's lifetime, because Musashi was born, they say, in 1584. So this book predates Musashi. And there's actually multiple revisions on this book. It's interesting people would get it and add something to it over the years. There was a forward written to the book in the mid-1600s by Takuan Soho. And then there was an afterword written by one of the grandchildren of Bokudan students. And there's another section, the first eight lines in the book that were added.
Starting point is 00:20:35 And those are attributed to Shogun Yoshimun. and he's a shogun that ruled Japan from 1716 until 1745. So this book is very interesting. And since Eric who sent it to me is obviously fluent in Japanese, I'll apologize, of course, for my bad Japanese pronunciation. But we'll go for it. And I'll want to take you through some of the sections of this book. that again, I feel not only applied to combat today,
Starting point is 00:21:16 but to life today. And interestingly, here's the, we'll start off a little bit with the introduction. And this is again written by, what written after the original book came out, and this guy added this introduction to it. And he's describing how great the book is. So a little bit of arrogance in this.
Starting point is 00:21:42 but it's okay because he's saying, hey, he's not saying he wrote it. He's saying, look, this book is important. And here we go to the book. If you change out the people, if you change out the words, if you change out the places, and if you change out every generation, it is like the difference between rain, dew, snow, and ice. They are each formed by the same water. That's interesting, right?
Starting point is 00:22:09 Because now we're talking about people. Hey, you can be different times, different places, different surroundings, but it's like the difference between rain and dew and snow and ice. It's the same water. The same people are the same. Back to the book. These words should be read by any and everyone who follows the way of the warrior. Speak them aloud so that you may hear them in your ears and fail to heed them at your peril. They're not simply words to revere and praise. If you are attempting to equate the teachings within this scroll to any other work, know that this is knowledge that can be found only after summoning the tallest peak of a mountain. The depth of the wisdom contained on these pages makes the sea seem shallow by comparison. If you were to compare a person versed in these ideas to a stone, you would find the latter soft by comparison. Pull a bowstring, launching an arrow, or pulling a bowstring, launching an arrow,
Starting point is 00:23:13 raising your whip, encouraging your steed, donning your armor, taking up your lance, gaining fame and honor and becoming one who starts a great house. Read this book, listen to it. Understand the unmistakable truths. It would be utterly foolish to not lock them in your mind. In my opinion, even if you lived through 100 generations over a thousand years coming across another book like this, would be like to a blind turtle who comes to the surface once every hundred years climbing its way into a hole on a piece of driftwood. I like that.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Now, as we jump into this book, there's one more thing I need to mention. I said that there's these additions kind of to the book over time. Well, one of the additions to the book, I mean, this book was written in the 1500s, but one of the additions to the book, and this is something that Eric added. that he found a translation of the book by a researcher and a practitioner of the sword arts. And this guy's name was Hori Shohi. And he produced the text and he put little helpful interpretations, kind of furthering the idea a little bit.
Starting point is 00:24:33 So I'll read those sometimes because it gives a little bit of clarification as to what's being talked about. and these first eight lines are actually, I'll give it up for these first eight lines in this book being fairly epic, fairly epic. And again, these were written by Tokugawa Shogun Yishamuni. And again,
Starting point is 00:24:59 he was the Shogun ruler of Japan from 1716 to 1745. And here's what he added to the book. And I think these are, well, here's number one you cannot have pleasure without pain and you cannot have pain without pleasure your struggles now will be rewarded in the future
Starting point is 00:25:22 so you must endure right yes kind of speaks for itself does it not in fact I think we call that discipline equals freedom next be reverent towards the law
Starting point is 00:25:41 be afraid of fire, be afraid of thoughtless delusional people, and never forget to be reverent to those you owe a debt of gratitude to. This is one of those things that, what do we say now? Never forget where you came from, right? People say never forget where you came from. Well, don't forget those people that got you there. Because where you came from, somebody helped you along the way.
Starting point is 00:26:04 And so don't forget about that. Next one. You should think of greed and lust as the enemy. Conquer. I think I like this one you should neither sleep late nor talk too long now I guess I'm kind of
Starting point is 00:26:28 the talk too long I may be violating that on a regular basis at least once a week on a podcast yes me too sometimes actually you might violate that on the regular potentially but here's here's a guy don't sleep late and you know I get this all the every time I
Starting point is 00:26:45 every time somebody talks to me about sleeping someone says well I have the night shift. Or while I work late and my kids don't go to bed until midnight, okay, I get it. I'm not saying everyone in the world has to wake up at 4.30. What I'm saying is this, you shouldn't sleep late, right? And if you work the night shift, not sleeping late might be waking up at noon. Yeah, but you didn't oversleep is my point. Yeah, it's the idea. Just like I said, like, we all want to like stay cozy in our bed and kind of take our time, like getting up and kind of thing. Yeah, the idea for sure that's what I get from it
Starting point is 00:27:21 it anyway it's not the mandatory thing yeah 430 and if you don't wake up at 430 you're black or something like that like someone someone um I had a picture my hand on the interweb right and I had a little callus get removed
Starting point is 00:27:36 sure on the pull-up bar and on the pull-up bar okay but someone someone said hey if someone doesn't have collis they don't work out and then someone else said well what if you run a marathon You still work out.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Yeah. And so that's not the point, man. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know, yes. The point is get some, right? Can you get something while training for a marathon? Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Can you get some while running a marathon? Yes, you can. Yeah. Look at Rob Jones. You know. He just ran 31 marathons and 31 days. Yeah, that's getting some. We're not accusing him of not working.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Yeah, yeah. Matt at his lack of calluses. Although I'm sure he has calluses too. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Next. Take care to organize
Starting point is 00:28:18 even trivial things, then if something major occurs, it will not catch you off guard. So that's the little things that matter. Attention to detail. You learn that when you know the military. When you join the military, I joke about it.
Starting point is 00:28:29 They make you fold your underwear in like a four by four inch square. And that's the thing. They're trying to teach you attention to detail. Yeah. Because actually I was talking to a Marine buddy of mine. I think it was, I want to say it was Morgan.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Yeah. And they were they landed their helo and the gunner or whoever was in charge of the weapon cracked off a 50 cow round into the well so you have a 50 cow mounted in the in the helicopter guy cracked off around he if a weapon gets hot it can just shoot. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If a weapon is really hot, it's called a cook off. You've got a round in the chamber and the weapon's hot and it can just make that round to go off from what the wet anything just weather.
Starting point is 00:29:16 No, from hot. If it's hot, well, you're shooting it. Okay, if it's hot outside, then you add you shoot it a bunch. And now it gets hot. There's a hot round sitting in the chamber. And a minute goes by or you don't know how long it's going to be. It could be a minute. It could be five minutes, but boom, all of a sudden, it just fires.
Starting point is 00:29:31 And this, so before, in this particular case, I'm not sure the weapon system. It was a 50 caliber, but I'm not sure where they had it mounted. But anyways, he should have cleared it before he folded it up into the helicopter. and he didn't do that. And so he pulled the rounds out, but there's one round sitting in the chamber and sure enough it cooked off. So that's the kind of thing
Starting point is 00:29:54 where they're trying to get you to pay attention to the small details. Yeah. The trivial things. Yeah. The trivial things aren't too trivial. Yeah. Did they explain that to you?
Starting point is 00:30:04 Like when you're folding your underwear, do they explain okay, you know, at all? They do, and I've talked about this before on the podcast that my drill instructor in in officer candidate school at the end of officer candidate school he explained why on everything at the end at the end oh like mr me algae like while you're doing it though they'll they'll be saying how can you you can't even fold your underwear not right how can we trust you with a weapon system you know what i mean they'll say that kind of thing to you but you don't really when you're well
Starting point is 00:30:33 when i was going through regular boot camp you're just trans your your your mind is being transformed from civilian world to military world so you're not you don't have to you don't have have good perspective. Yeah. You know? You're like weapon system, man. I just want to eat the next meal. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:49 You're not, you can't see the big picture. I mean, I couldn't. I was too young or too dumb or a little bit of both. Yeah, yeah. But they do.
Starting point is 00:30:56 They're saying, hey, how could you, how could you, how could you fly an airplane? Mm-hmm. If you can't even fold your underwear right, boy. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:31:05 you're actually thinking, well, damn, maybe I shouldn't be flying an airplane. I can't fold my underwear right. Yeah. But they're trying to teach you attention to detail. And it is good.
Starting point is 00:31:14 And it does apply to everything. You know, it does apply to everything. And you do the little things right. And that way the little things are in order. And that means the big things, even if they catch you a little off guard, you're at least prepared for it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Yeah, that whole thing, I mean, I dig it. You know, how they're talking to you guys like that. But that whole thing where how do you expect to do this when you can't even, you know, tie your shoes right or whatever, you know, like, or you don't buy into that, huh? I do. Brah. I actually know.
Starting point is 00:31:42 It's good. You're like, how are you going to run? Because a lot of things, it's like a false little equivalency there. Some, some things. There's telling you to pay attention to little things. It's called attention to detail. I get that part of it for sure. But I'm saying like, if they're not explaining why, and it could be wrong.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Well, they're explaining why, but they're doing it. They're not doing it. They're not breaking it down for you. Like a school teacher is like, okay, well, this is echo Charles. Let me tell you why this is important. They're not doing that to you. What is to sound like that. No, they're not, they're not, they're saying, hey.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Hey, I get it. I get it. How can we trust you with a rifle if you can't fold your underwear right? Yeah, okay. And I would say this. Maybe I didn't see the big picture, but I at least saw the little picture. Yeah, well, that's really the thing ultimately. Like, you know, like, and I mentioned Mr. Mead, like on, like, where he's like,
Starting point is 00:32:27 wax on, wax off, you know, and he's like, oh, this is so dumb. Then at the end, he gets the picture, you know, but as he's doing it, I mean, he didn't say, you know, if you can't send the floor, how are you going to fight in the tournament, nothing like that. Well, he was teaching him some kind of technique, allegedly. Right, but that's essentially what they're doing As far as attention to detail They're making you do all these little.
Starting point is 00:32:45 What could you do a jihitsu that would make you There's nothing I'm sure there's a bunch of stuff Sit there in footlock Pieces of wood Yeah, but that's pretty Like that's an obvious translation You know like I'm gonna foot locks
Starting point is 00:32:59 It's like punching a punching bag You know same thing Jiu Jitsu Very check All right going to the next one 90% is not enough only 100% will keep disaster at bay. That's good.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Now, of course, many times I'll say, hey, you've got an 80% solution, go, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because people sit around and wait for the perfect plan. Right, right, good plan now. Which, so I think that's a little bit different, but this, I think if you're talking about effort,
Starting point is 00:33:30 yeah, right? The effort has to be 100%. Yeah. You're not going to give 100%. And it's a settling thing too, right? You know, people don't, like, don't like settle. You know, don't settle for 90%. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Because it's, 100% is required. Exactly. Like effort or whatever. That's what I get from it. Next, having good judgment also means being able to endure. Endure. Take pain. And it's not just pain.
Starting point is 00:34:02 It's also being able to take just, just annoyance. Yeah, yeah. And just discomfort. Like, how many people don't want to do a job just because it's, just because it's grueling and not fun, right? Yeah, right here, me. A lot of the time. You follow in that category.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Not right now, currently, obviously, but, you know, in general, yeah, that's my general attitude for the most part. Sometimes. What was the worst most menial job that you really hated? My worst job that I really hated was being a mover at American movers on Oahu in Hawaii for the summer. But then you get a little bit, what? Like, like, hey, man, I'm going to move this thing really.
Starting point is 00:34:43 fast? No. No, not at all. It was like moving for other people all day. And it was bad as like 13 hours a day average. I work construction. Did I ever talk to you about when I work construction and the first day on the job site? The guys came into the Wendy's. I worked at Wendy's. Sure. And the guys looked at me in this old Italian guy builder. He looks at me, goes, what are you doing here? And I said, I'm making rent. He says, you want to work here? I said, no, sir. He said, do you want to work construction with me? I said, yes, sir. He said, report tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:35:18 We're over a crowd because they were building a place right across the street. Yeah. I said, yes, sir. So I showed up there in the morning. And there was there. A dump truck had come with a ton of concrete block to, that we were going to build a little foundation wall. And they just dumped it, you know, a hundred yards away, all these concrete blocks.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Yeah. And he says, hey, your job today. has to move these blocks over to get him over here near the foundation thing yeah he said we're going to get some coffee and some donuts sure yeah donuts so i said yes sir and he got in the truck with the guys right and i started moving these blocks i was running i was running yeah literally running as fast as i could possibly do it and i wasn't even doing that as like a challenge to myself. I was so happy to not be working at Wendy's that I would have, I mean, I just was filled
Starting point is 00:36:20 with energy. So I could get all these blocks done. And another guy was there who didn't go to get coffee and donuts. And he kind of gave me, hey, man, you need to slow down. Yeah. You know, you're going to make everyone look bad. Yeah. And I would just say, hey, I'm going pretty slow.
Starting point is 00:36:37 And I said, don't worry, I'll do whatever. You know, I'll do your job. You can sit there. I don't care. Yeah. But what is it, though? You didn't get any of that? You didn't get any?
Starting point is 00:36:45 I mean, you didn't propose little challenges to yourself and your little work crew. That's actually how I got by. It was like, okay, let me do those little things. If there's a way to get by, you should tell people because some people are stuck in jobs that they don't like right at this moment in time. They're listening to podcasts and they're working at Wendy's. Yeah. And I work at Wendy's, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:06 No, I dig it. That was not fun. Foot locker. What did you do there? Worked at Foot Locker. But did what? Are you selling shoes? Guy in the back, stocking shoes and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Yeah. You know what's funny, man. On Kauai, working at Full Locker was kind of, when you'd walk in, it'd be like, dang, that's kind of cool. You get to wear the ref uniform and all that. And I'm like, man, when we, we were in high school. So, man, we started working. I was like, this is, it's tedious.
Starting point is 00:37:31 It's weird how your perspective changes. Yeah. I was thinking about that the other day when you're a young team guy and you get, like when I got my first apartment, dude, I was, I might as well be dumbed Trump. I was the richest guy in the world, you know? It was like, I was the man. Yeah. But then as you, you know, you settle into that,
Starting point is 00:37:51 then you say, well, you know what? I'd be cool to have a little house. You gotta be weary of the greed. That's true. That's true. But that's natural, though, right? It's like, you know, when you get used to something, it becomes the new standard.
Starting point is 00:38:03 You know how that whole thing works, right? Well, okay, then what's the difference between someone? Because you and I both know people. We all know people. There's people that get to the comfort. zone and then they're done what's the difference between someone that gets the comfort zone and done and someone that gets the comfort zone and says all right i'm comfortable here but i want more yeah want to do more maybe not want more because that implies a materialistic point but i just want
Starting point is 00:38:24 more huh yeah i know huh because they're both like really like obviously prevalent and like almost natural you can get both of those personalities exist yeah but i'm sure we're all like but we're both of that i'm sure everybody is both of those things in one way or another you know like in Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, we're probably both in, like, the comfort zone big time as far as certain things. You know, I don't know. What's up to my, you know, I can't. No, you know what's for you.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Because if you think about it, you see someone that's got 70% body fat. Yeah. And you go, dude. Yeah. That dude's got 70% body fat. That's got, like, like, that sucks. Like, yeah. That person should work, you know, try and get that, try and drop that percentage down.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Yeah. But there's someone that's looking at me, some guy that's a, obsessed with being lean as hell. He's looking to me like, God, I can't believe Jocco's got whatever 20% or 18, whatever my percent body fat is. Yeah. He's looking at me going, dude. Well, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:39:26 So I'm in my comfort zone? No, no, no, no. No, no, because it's not like you were getting after, looking after your body percent levels. And then you hit a certain number and then you were like, who cares kind of thing. I don't think that that's the way it went. Here's what have, and not with you, obviously I can't speak, you know, as far as your comfort zones go, but a typical one, we'll say is that, you know, guys will be working out and like getting their fresh haircut or whatever. And then they'll get married and then they won't work out as much, you know, guys, girls, whatever, you know, and do that. They, they, quote, unquote, let themselves go after they get married, like that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:40:04 But they might focus a lot more on their career. And then they might want more of that, but then, you know, it's like that kind of stuff. Yeah. I think you gotta watch out for the comfort zone. Yeah, I think you're too. All right. Next. Oh, now we've moved beyond those opening lines
Starting point is 00:40:23 and now we get into the bulk of the book, which again, which is written by this Boca den guy. And here we go. It does not matter whether you are firing at an enemy near you or an opponent some distance away. You should be a depth that's selecting the best arrowhead. And then the,
Starting point is 00:40:45 The amplification on that says the lesson here is that you need a strong arrow for an adversary at close range, but a lighter one for hitting an opponent far away. And I guess when I read this, the point that I got out of it was you need to be able to select your tools properly. Right. And as a leader, you need to be able to select. Think of all the tools we've talked about on this podcast that you need to use as a leader. Sometimes you've got to be a little bit harsher with a guy. Sometimes you've got to be you've got to flank a guy. Sometimes you've got to be directors, all these different tools that you need to use as a leader.
Starting point is 00:41:17 You got to be a depth at selecting the right tools. And I gave a metaphor on here one time about how you're like a woodworker, right? This is actually what's interesting about the woodworker metaphor is as a leader, you have to be like a woodworker, which means you need to learn all these different types of tools, but you need to learn how to use these different tools on different types of wood. And each one of these types of wood, each one of these individual pieces of wood is a little bit different. They got a little knot.
Starting point is 00:41:49 They get a grain. They get things. So you can't just learn a mechanical skill. Yeah. You have to learn to be a true craftsman with the tools, and then you have to learn about what the different types of people they are.
Starting point is 00:42:00 And then you have to see that each, even a different type like this person might have a big ego, but they got this other thing. You get a little knot. They get a little different grain. Yeah. Kind of like a barber.
Starting point is 00:42:10 You know, the barber cuts. The barber cuts your person using the clippers. Well, yeah. And he busts up. the thing and it depends you know yeah that's true like a barber or i guess we could say any type of craftsman that has to work with varying medium sure yeah pretty much anybody really everybody you've watched the social network bro watch that show it sounds weird it's it when you first hear the idea of facebook you both about facebook and Zuckerberg the first when you hear about that you're
Starting point is 00:42:35 like oh who cares but bro that's a good movie really good movie anyway it's a movie i thought it's a show or a movie? A movie. Okay. The social network. Is he awkward? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:47 It's really good. Do they overdo his awkwardness, you think? Maybe. Maybe. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I don't really follow Zuckerberg to know his awkwardness or whatever. Have you ever heard people call him Zucks?
Starting point is 00:42:58 Yeah, it sucks. Like, like, we're tight. We call him sucks. We type. Yeah, sure, sucks. Zucks. Of course. But he, he's, he's doing something.
Starting point is 00:43:09 He's breaking into the college. computer or mainframe, whatever he's breaking into. And he's kind of narrating what he's doing. He's like, I had to do this. So I had to break out this, this, you know, and he's, he's doing the same thing. That was a really revealing part in regards to this concept. Oh, he's got to make, figure out which tools. Yeah, because he has to get in here.
Starting point is 00:43:25 So he's trying to solve these, it's all code. And, you know, so he's trying to solve this problem, but then this problem comes up. And then this one has these specific problems. So he has to solve them, but he can't just do it with the current tools. He has to bust out this other tool. Did he have the vision when he was creating it of, of what it was going to be? well did he feel that confident about it does he see did he see the whole vision or do he like wake up one day and say dang this thing is going to be really no no it was it was like it was a slow evolution into it
Starting point is 00:43:51 because at first it was like he started with this thing called face smash which was basically just comparing the girls on campus like who's hotter and then you click okay she's hotter then he's hotter then you know and then that's cold blood it sucks and that was a big part of it was like that's what people would hate him and stuff like that and then it just slowly um no it was a social network these guys like isn't that weird that's like what a teenager would do right oh yeah big time and that's what they were trying to emphasize too more like he just wanted to be like liked by people or i don't know something like that was going to help him be liked he had a weird approach i don't know this is just what the movies i don't know you know i'm sure there's some inconsistencies with it but no it's weird is
Starting point is 00:44:35 it would be weird to meet him well not just to meet him like hey nice to meet you but but to actually know him, I guess. Because then you see what someone's, there's been people that I've kind of known that were, whatever, so to semi-famous or whatever the word is. Sure. And in reality, like on TV, they seem like they're not cool people. But in regular life, they're really cool.
Starting point is 00:44:57 And then the opposite I've also seen where someone seems super cool. Yeah. When you see their persona and in real life, they're not cool. Yeah. Yeah. I guess that'd be pretty common to kind of, be inconsistent that way or have it being consistent as far as your experience with that person. Seems like that would be kind of common.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Right? Because a lot of people, if they're famous or if they're, you know, famous, popular, whatever, a lot of times you kind of got to turn it on for the camera, right? Especially because you're essentially a performer in one way or another, whether it be actor or whoever, you know, even like businessmen. You know, like it's weird. And it's not even necessarily a bad thing. it's more like for lack of better term a required thing you know so like my brother for example like if i know him but then when i hear him talking to like like i don't know executives or something
Starting point is 00:45:49 or like like every once in while he'll i'll see him on like an interview or something and i'm like he there's only because i know i know he's so good so it's like i feel you know what i just thought of is uh jo rogan yeah so i actually met joe rogan a long time ago when i was just dean's one of dean's one of Dean's cornerman, right? You know how Joe Rogan treated me back then? How? Super cool. Like, just cool. Just the same. And then when I was up on his podcast,
Starting point is 00:46:18 the same. Same dude. That's a good dude right there. You know what I mean? Agree? And strangely enough, I had the exact same experience. And this is and this will, this will kind of demonstrate how legitimate it is, right? So same exact story. I messed Joe Rogan for the first time with Dean and my wife. We went to, we kind of knew Red Band through. It's a long story. So we went to one of his shows. We got to go to one of his shows and go talk to him afterwards, right? So that's
Starting point is 00:46:42 the first day, man. Same thing. Same thing. Super nice. Gave me his email. Yeah. I'm like, all right. I'm with some dude. He was like, yeah, yeah. Email me sometime. Yeah. And then so the next time I see him was when I went to Legends to train. When I was going to L.A. for, you know, for filming. And then so I'd train at Legends. And so I go there and he's there. He's rolling with everyone and everything. You know, it's like he's known there or whatever. You know, like a come just another person there as far as training goes and then um so he's kind of cruising on the side so it's like oh i'm gonna go ask him to roll so i was like hey what's up yeah i met you with dean long time ago you know a few years ago whatever he was like he was like yeah that must
Starting point is 00:47:19 have been a lot like he totally didn't remember me you know it's not like oh i remember you so now i'm gonna be cool to you it was like he did totally didn't remember me i was probably one of many people and he was still just as cool so he starts talking about ufc you know how like you yeah you go hey small talk before you guys roll and then um so it's small talk and he starts talking about current UFC stuff. We didn't even roll. I just wanted to listen to him to talk about UFC. And so we didn't roll.
Starting point is 00:47:43 But same thing, same exact thing. And then even when I went up to film with him for the Metamore stuff or Eddie Bravo stuff, same thing. Same thing. He like forgot about me again. That was like years ago. And he was like, oh, yeah, that must have been a long time ago. Same exact thing.
Starting point is 00:47:58 I was like, yeah, I actually respect the fact that doesn't go, oh, yeah, yeah, I remember. Yeah, yeah, fully. Yeah, he doesn't play that game. Yeah. I actually met 80 million people last year and I don't really remember you, but it's good to hang out with you right now again. Yeah, exactly. I guess exactly.
Starting point is 00:48:13 And this, I mean, of course, yeah, Joe Rogan is like this. And if people are like this in general, that is, just like I said, that's kind of like a, not a late mistest, but kind of like, it's this indicator, you know? He didn't remember me. So really, since he didn't remember me, for all intense purposes, I was just another person. And same exact treatment. Just cool. Just normal. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:38 It wasn't like, I mean, you're you, and there's this separation kind of thing. With none of that. Yeah, no. It's a good way to be. I don't even know how we ended up talking about that one. You dropped Joe Rogan's name and we started talking about it. So, you know. Good point.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Name dropper. Name dropper. Next. Your mount should be of normal strength and spirit. Horses with a strong urge to win or fearful and skittish, should be rejected out of hand. So I thought this was interesting because we're talking about
Starting point is 00:49:15 finding someone that's balanced, right? Not someone that's, he's saying normal, normal strength and spirit. Don't want someone that's supragro. But you don't want someone that's weak. You want someone that's in the middle. And the amplification on it says horses without nerve are weak
Starting point is 00:49:31 while a horse with a lot of spirit cannot be ridden by normal people. In other words, A slightly strong, somewhat plucky horse is best. Plucky, by the way. Second time we've heard that word today. This is a sign to learn the word. Do you know what it means?
Starting point is 00:49:47 I didn't know what it meant. No, no. It means brave. Plucky means brave. Okay. Does indeed. Had to look that one up. Similar here.
Starting point is 00:49:57 As long as a horse is strong, is it acceptable. It is acceptable for it to have a certain inclination. However, never ride a horse with a tendency to retreat. So if you got a strong horse, it's basically to me this is as long as the thing is not going to turn tail if it's a little bit
Starting point is 00:50:14 feisty if it's a little bit this, a little bit of that you can have a little bit different person now and what I took away from this is as a leader once again
Starting point is 00:50:21 you're gonna get people with some things going on some little personality train some little like when you're putting together a seal platoon you're gonna have some guys that are got some idiosyncrasies
Starting point is 00:50:31 right? Yeah. You got 16 guys in a seal platoon you got 36 guys in a task unit they're not all the same by any stretch. And some of them are going to be even further outside the box of, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:44 they're going to have some kind of idiosyncrasy. We might even call it an issue. You know, that's kind of an overused word, but they might have some kind of issue, right? Sure. Okay. What this is saying is,
Starting point is 00:50:56 as long as they're not going to retreat and run, we're all right. But if they're going to retreat and run, if that's their idiosyncrasy, can't have them. Yeah, yeah. Get rid of them. What do you call them?
Starting point is 00:51:07 Deal break. The deal breaker. Deal breaker. Deal breaker big time. All right. Next, while small horses may be easier to handle as well as dismount from
Starting point is 00:51:16 those who prefer such animals are a bit dim-witted. So what I like about this is, if you're in a leadership position, you might want to surround yourself with people that are just, that'll just do what you say. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:51:30 Yeah. Hey, I want my horses all just to fall in line and they're easy to get on and off. And if I yell at them, they don't bark back. you don't want those people. You want people that are a little bit harder to handle,
Starting point is 00:51:42 just a little bit harder to handle. Maybe they're going to stand up to you. Like I always say, you don't want to be surrounded by yes men. You want to be surrounded by people that will question you'd say, I don't like this plan. So that's the kind of horses you want.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Not little tiny, weak horses. No. Next. You should know that a person wearing a newly forged sword will invariably blunder even if that sword cuts well. So, basically, this is like you've got to watch
Starting point is 00:52:18 you know guys a little bit. Wait, say that way again? It's, it's, you should know that a person wearing a newly forged sword will invariably blunder even if that sword cuts well. Okay, gotcha. So you got to watch your new guys
Starting point is 00:52:35 and here's the amplification on this one. A sword that is not at least 100 years old is one that you cannot rely on. Gotcha. Okay. Yeah, it makes sense. Like young people, full of vigor and energy,
Starting point is 00:52:46 the vitality of a young sword is not entirely stable. You cannot rely on it. Hey, you got to watch. Yeah. You got to watch. Unproven. Unproven.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Got to watch them. That makes sense to me. I'm not saying they won't be badasses because they might be. Right. They might be. I had new guys that were complete badasses. But you don't know that.
Starting point is 00:53:09 I also had new guys where you'd think they're going to be good. It's weird, man. I've been talking about buds a little bit lately. Sure. Some of my friends. You have no idea who's going to make it through. Yeah. You don't know.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Because it's mental, right? It's mental and physical. It's mental and physical. It's mental and physical. Hey, can you get cut from buds just because you're not like, let's say, is there like, I don't know, but, you know, like let's say there's a run. And you got to, you know, do you? Do they, is there any circumstances that are this or similar to this where you're going to make this run in, you know, 10 minutes, whatever?
Starting point is 00:53:45 And if you don't make the 10 minutes, you're out. Yeah. But there's stuff like that. For sure. Absolutely. There's a, there's actually the standard times with runs have been in place since I went through and they're the same. For the four, what they call a four mile timed run. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:59 The four mile timed run in first phase, the time, maximum time you can take is 32 minutes. 32 minutes. What do you run in? That's, that's, that's, that's, that you're, you're surprised because that's slow, right? Four mile. That's an eight minute mile. That's pretty fast. What?
Starting point is 00:54:18 It's pretty fast. No. It's pretty fast. Then in second phase, it goes down to 30 minutes. Bro, you used to run a what? Yeah, I could do it, but it's not like that. Yeah. Well, let me tell you.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Let me tell you. That is not fast. That is not fast. All right. In second phase, it goes to 30 minutes. In fourth phase, it goes to 28 minutes. That's a seven minute mile. That is not fast.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Yeah, I thought you were going to say, like, 10 minute mile this is what this is what trips people up or jams people up as you like to say what jams people up is when you do the run you're not fresh that's the thing you're not jam me up big time you're not fresh you're wearing boots boots you're wearing pants you're on the soft sand yeah yeah and the sand like part of it will be hard pack yeah but then like part of it's going to be soft and and this has changed a little bit from what i've been told when i went through the instructions Maybe that run was 4.2 miles. Yeah, maybe it was 4.5 miles.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Maybe it was 3.8 miles. They kind of estimated. So if you didn't make it the time. So when I went through, if you didn't make the time for that, for run. They had your name. If you failed again, you were done.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Okay, so it's like one strike. Yes. Okay, got you. Now, the interesting thing is if you failed to run and then you failed to swim, you could still, we would still be there but if you failed a run or swim again
Starting point is 00:55:41 you fail to run and a swim and you failed on the obstacle course you'd still be there you fell one more time they call it being on the bubble yeah actually I think no that actually came from officer candidate school I don't think we said the bubble there's new things that that develop
Starting point is 00:55:56 in buds yeah that come yeah I've heard on the bubble plenty times you're on the bubble like they said about buds that just means in general in life yeah like oh you're on your job yeah you're in a bubble you're gonna get cut yeah yeah So thanks okay so that that's what you mean by its physical because like yeah it's physical like if you don't yeah you can fail physically I've been telling people this lately I had to run as fast as I could possibly run to pass the runs for that form I would that would be me too and the one time one time I paste myself I was like you know what I'm just gonna paste myself sure I'll be fine I paste myself yeah I failed like so then from then on and I had a buddy that was a cross-country runner in high school or college or something.
Starting point is 00:56:40 And he's like, hey, run with me. And I'm like, yeah, and I did. Like, I ran as hard as I. And that's how I had to run every run. I had to run as hard as I could. Yeah. And there's guys that ran cross country. Those runs are a joke for those guys. I mean, Echo, it's no big deal for, I mean, there's a lot of people that can run
Starting point is 00:56:56 five minute miles. Yeah. That are doing those runs in, you know, a four-mile run in like 20 to 22 minutes. Yeah. And I'm judging. That's not, that's not, for, I'm surprised that you thought that was fast. I think I just caught you. guard it's slow dude it might be slow depends on what you mean my fast and depends on
Starting point is 00:57:13 when I used to like run I would run on the treadmill and I would run a seven minute mile talk to me about the treadmill but those are no that's part of my point you run on the treadmill I'd run like a seven minute mile pace and I'd be like dang and but I'd only do like one mile and I'd be like good that's like I've I've only run on a treadmill like three to three times it's easier it's easier like it's kind of I was on board ships I would run around the flight deck yeah so that's what I mean I'm like these guys running seven eight minute mile usually when I'd run like four miles or five miles on the treadmill it'd be like 10 like just under like a nine minute something I don't even know how to translate to a treadmill I honestly
Starting point is 00:57:54 don't well I don't know how that translates yeah so I would say it's like but a nine minute mile is pathetic right that and that's with the pace I would run my four miles and I wouldn't be dead but I'd be that be to go harder. There's something wrong. If I'm if I, if you want me to run an eight minute, seven minute, eight minute mile with boots in sand, even some of the time, you're crazy. I would be. So you're a slow distance runner is what I'm hearing. Apparently.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Yeah. I would be going like you as fast as I possibly can to make it. Check. Dang. Back to the book. While you should select a sword with a handle that is long and thin, you should reject any sword with one that is excessively long. I like that a lot of these rules are balance. They're about balance.
Starting point is 00:58:43 That's what they're about. Hey, you want it long and thin, but don't, not too long. Yeah. You want a horse that's strong, but not overly strong. Yeah, yeah. This is a lot about balance. And here's the amplification. You are less likely to drop a sword with a thin handle.
Starting point is 00:59:00 However, in cold weather, you are liable to drop a sword with a thick handle. For the most part, when on horseback, you should pass a string through the handle. guard of your sword and tie it to your arm once you drop it you will to pick it up again have a lanyard hmm have a lanyard on your weapon have a leash have a board no that's different no no I think that's the same thing no leashes are for dogs uh I I had my whole career had a lanyard on my pistol only needed it one time dang I don't think I've even heard of meaning me and I only dropped my pistol one time. Huh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Yeah. That's bad. Next. Again, balance. It is good for the tip of your spear to be long. However, if it is too long, you may find yourself in trouble. Amplification, the blade on the end of your spear should be long, but not excessively so. If it is too heavy, then you'll lose it. Balance. Got to keep things balanced. Next, even if you're able to fly up into the sky without feathers, you have no chance of victory with a spear you cannot wield with your own
Starting point is 01:00:13 two hands. I like that one. Is that kind of like girls overpacking for a trip and making you carry their stuff? I don't think it has anything to do with that. Kind of. When you really think about it, think about it.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Oh, because she can't carry her stuff. Yeah, she has all her stuff that she needs and she's going to do well on the vacation as far as comfort goes, whatever. But she can't even carry it. Well, if you would have made it not about vacation, but about patrolling pumping through the woods, right? Like, it's great that you brought
Starting point is 01:00:45 a whisper light and extra food and all this other stuff, but you can't carry it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, remember Leif was talking about that. Yeah, remember he was like... First patrol in her body. He had 27 hand grenades with him. He was ready for World War III, though.
Starting point is 01:01:01 You know? All right, yeah, because what was the double-dusie was getting acclimated to being in the hundred 20 degree heat and getting acclimated to running around the Marine Corps is out they've been out there for months sprinting from corner to corner cover to cover and they've already minimized their gear somewhat and Leif shows up he's not only is he a little heavy or maybe even a lot heavy but also he's getting acclimated so it's a double it's a it's a one two punch yeah all right this is a good one While the shaft of your spear should be long, ignore the ground at your peril. When I first read that, I was thinking myself, okay, what does that mean? Well, that mean ignore the ground.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Here's the amplification. The length of sorts of your spear, as well as the weight, lighter, heavier, should differ based on three factors. You, your enemy, and the battleground. So even if your spear is sufficient, not having an understanding of the terrain. will result in defeat. Terrain. That's what he means by ground. Ignore the ground at your peril.
Starting point is 01:02:19 And this is something that's very difficult. It's something that we don't talk about. I've talked about it before on this podcast for sure, knowing terrain. That's what combat is. Combat is knowing and understanding the terrain. It's knowing and understanding the ground. It's understanding land features and buildings and what angles produce and where your patrol should go and where a good ambival.
Starting point is 01:02:41 So the Polish site would be that is all based on knowing the ground. The terrain is what we call. We don't call it the ground. We call it the terrain. Yeah. Knowing terrain features, microfeatures, micro terrain. What's this little draw? Dead space.
Starting point is 01:02:54 All these little things are so important. So that rule absolutely applies to this day. Next, samurai do not gorge themselves at banquets. Eating twice a day is more than enough. Amplification Samurai must train themselves to be able to withstand hunger and to always be on their guard From days past it was said that two meals a day is plenty It appears there were some people eating three times a day in this era Dropping the hammer
Starting point is 01:03:32 Do you eat three meals a day? Three yes Thought so Sometimes too When I'm feeling you know warrior spirit yeah I've actually heard that I think Hoyler was the one who told me that the two meals a day no it wasn't
Starting point is 01:03:52 as much as it was the amount of meals a day it was like the type of meals you know they he never eat these heavy meals oh okay they'd have a certain mix like kind of formula but they'd yeah and if you notice it it's really light bananas and cucumbers yeah yeah it's really weird stuff they got a mix together we made the smoothie for me one time it was like there was like
Starting point is 01:04:12 I want to say cream cheese in there with watermelon and banana it was like interesting little mix but it was good though but it was like it's like a lot of stuff is like because you um you know when you get a lot of people coming in trying to challenge you at the academy this is like old school you know when people you always got to be ready yeah so you can't be like oh i just ate up you know i don't know i don't like training people ask me that all time do you what do you eat in the morning before you work out i don't anything nothing yes and i don't like to eat before i train agree and some people say oh it's an hour and a half. If I don't eat an hour and a half before I train, I don't even like to eat
Starting point is 01:04:45 two, three hours before I train. I think that might be psychological. Hey, look, everyone's different. That's why it's about chicken today. We got delayed. And I was like, hey, if I don't eat now, you might get hungry. No, then by the time I'm training tonight, you know, then I would have to eat when we were done. And all of a sudden, it's 45 minutes to an hour and I'm on the mat. And I don't like that feeling. I don't start any of my gut. Yeah. I'd rather not eat. we'll consider this where in a real general way of explaining it if you you know when you eat something your stomach got to work your stomach muscles yeah smooth muscles as opposed to skeletal muscles by the way smooth muscles they got to get to work and you know enzymes go in there all this
Starting point is 01:05:24 stuff so that's taken away from your skeletal yeah the blood flow like all the stuff basically the resources of your body start going to your stomach now and now you want to demand some resources for the rest of your body when you go to train. The stomach's like, hey, what about us? Resources bail from the stomach a little bit. Stomph feels upset. You might throw up or feel like it. Andy almost puked the other day.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Yeah, that's bad. All right. Same subject. That's why I'm going to go right to it. If a samurai is preparing to step onto the field of battle is wise to avoid eating anything other than hot water poured over rice. So that's one way to do it. Amplification. If you eat a lot at a bad,
Starting point is 01:06:07 banquet before a great battle the food will not have settled by the time the fighting starts echo charles called it if you then were to have your head chopped off all that food would come out and it would make a great big mess food will not pass down the throat of a coward it appears tea was not common okay just next one something a samurai should never be without is the thing you use to shorten your blade a wet stone makes sense right That's why you bring your rings when you go on trips. You're when I go on travel. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:44 If I go for multiple days. If I go, if I'm only going to be gone for like two or three days, I will just use whatever random pull-up bar I can find or make or. Yeah. But if I'm going for five days, six days, bring the rings. Yeah. The rings make a big difference if you have rings.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Yeah. So many workouts you can do just rings. Yeah. When you think about it and I know this from experience, it's, in my experience, it's harder to find something to do pull-ups on than, what you'd expect. You'd think,
Starting point is 01:07:11 oh, yeah, I can just do it like right here or wherever. No, it can be harder, yeah. You can do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can do push-ups anywhere.
Starting point is 01:07:19 You can do incline push-ups. You can do incline push-ups. All you need is a wall. All they do incline push-ups. And you can do all kinds of crazy squats and pistols and jump squats and burpees. Yeah. Pull-ups,
Starting point is 01:07:29 that's why rings are key. And once you have rings, then you can also do ring depths. You can do ring-dips. You can do like assisted squats if you need them. I don't really do that, but. No, no.
Starting point is 01:07:40 You don't need help. No. Well, I need to do squats. You're the man. Bro, I'm not over here bragging about being able to do empty body weight squats. But you can do everything once you have a pair of rings. And you can usually find a place to do pull-ups somewhere. Parking garage.
Starting point is 01:08:00 They have little overhanging ledges. They have eye beams you can hang on to. They have, I hate to say, because I know someone's going to rip it and break it and spray water everywhere, but they have sprinkler systems in there. And that's actually the biggest part of my plane. Actually, the cast iron where the sewage goes out of a building, it's usually a big pipe and it's hard to do pulp, but it's good. Yeah, I don't think that that's, I think that's a risk right there.
Starting point is 01:08:23 And it's probably against some sort of a rule at the hotel or whatever you're talking about. Be careful. Don't tell them I told you. Don't blame me. Break the rules in the name of working. I get it. I'm not taking ownership of you of your faults. Next.
Starting point is 01:08:38 It is unseemly for a samurai. ride to be enamored with the flavor of food that is set down before them. It is best that your meal be a soup made of boiled water poured over rice. That's how they roll, man. Yeah. They're just like, you know what I'm going to eat rice with hot water poured over it? Yeah. Otherwise, it's a distraction.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Do you think that that sort of asceticism keeps you tougher? Kind of. Yeah. In a way, it provides less distraction from your goal. Because like in fitness and, you know, like working out, bodybuilding, a lot of time, like, that's a factor big time. Because you got to eat a certain amount to maintain or gain weight and all this stuff. And, you know, maintain certain, you know, macros, you know, fat levels, all this stuff. So you can't just be going to KFC or wherever you think is super delicious and just eating it and be like, hey, this, you got to have like certain amount of like lean stuff.
Starting point is 01:09:35 And you can't add a bunch of sauces because there's extra calories in there, you know, all this stuff. So, yeah, if you can endure that kind, that kind, like food that doesn't necessarily taste that good. Yeah, you can get to your goal way better. What about Charlie Plum eating two balls of rice at day for six years? Yeah. I'm sure that, you know, that kind of helped them. Helped them later. Later.
Starting point is 01:09:56 What? It's like accepting of conditions, right? Well, that, yeah. You know, like you, it's like if you're, if you're used to sleeping on the floor with, like, no AC or heat or whatever. Yeah, you know, you can go sleep on someone's couch. You can go get rest pretty much anywhere. And that's a good luxury, especially when you compare it to a situation where you don't, you don't have that kind of tolerance, you know?
Starting point is 01:10:20 You know the kind of where like you need a certain like softness and temperature and noise level to sleep to fall asleep. Yeah. And then some people, they'll just fall right asleep while you're talking to them if they want to kind of thing. I can sleep in some, I can sleep real easy on airplanes. Yeah, me too. I get a little crouched up in a little ball and just go to sleep. You know what?
Starting point is 01:10:43 Here's what he actually said. Here's the amplifying information. The profession of the samurai involves being in an extreme environment. Therefore, gourmet food is of no benefit to them. There you go. Do you think that people that just eat really, really high-end food all the time,
Starting point is 01:11:02 when they go back to eating normal food, is it like, are they suffering? Yeah, probably a little. bit yeah in one way depends how they regard it you know because you know it's but you know what's funny when I was a kid we like I eat a lot of steak sure when I was a kid we didn't even eat steak yeah steak cost a lot of money it does and and when I was a kid we hamburgers sure a lot of hamburgers yeah not as much yeah I didn't even like steak when I got in the Navy I didn't like steak huh didn't like it I had to I didn't I just wasn't
Starting point is 01:11:37 used to it. It took me a couple of years before I started liking steak. Yeah, usually you hit that one steak that's like prepared perfectly and then in your mind, you're like, dang, I love steak now. And then even if you get another steak that wasn't prepared that perfectly, you're still pursuing it. Yeah. Don't remember. Maybe it's just like a, I remember eating burgers at Wendy's though. Check. All right, next. When entering a confrontation, samurai should neither look back on the path traveled nor what is off to left or right so to me that says prioritize and execute right don't be looking around you you see what you see what you got to you see what you got to do you got a confrontation in front of you here's the implication from the onset you should place yourself place your full concentration on the
Starting point is 01:12:27 battle and not allow your focus to lapse during the course of the battle the most important aspects of the battle the most important aspects of battle are the use of people and the use of natural geography, right? You're a leader. You got to use your people correctly. And as I just talked about, terrain, using the natural geography. Those are the two most important things. Now, can you get target fixation?
Starting point is 01:12:55 Yes, you can. So you can get so focused that you're, if you don't pay attention to what's going on the left and right, you might get flanked. Yeah. So you've got to watch out for that one. Next, samurai should mind neither the heat of summer nor the cold of winter as they race through fields and over mountains exhausting their bodies boom you got to train in heat and cold yeah that's welcome to the military you freeze and you sweat that's the way it works yeah it's funny tony
Starting point is 01:13:27 fratty and you kind of turn me on to just mentally it's more like putting your mind at a certain in a certain way where sure it'll be cold but it's not about how cold or not cold or not cold it is. Sure to be hot, it's not about how hot or not hot it is. And you can't complain about that stuff. And if you complain, that's like, that's the part that's going to jam me up, just how you regard it. You cannot. You cannot complain in the teams. Here's what's funny. Here's what's funny. And I just, you can experience this really easily. Let's say you and me are out at the beach. And it's warm, but out here in California, once the sun goes down, it cool off really quickly. you don't have a sweatshirt with you, neither do I.
Starting point is 01:14:14 Yeah. You've got a sweatshirt in your bag. Maybe I have one too, because actually this is a contradiction, because if I don't bring one, that means I'm not well prepared. Yeah. So I got one in my bag. Right, right. I'm not going to put it on my waist.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Take it out. You put it around your waist. No, I'm not even going to do that. I'm not even going to do that. I'm just going to leave it. You would not want to, you just want a BTF as long as you can just suck it up. I don't want you to see me putting on a sweatshirt, indicating to you that I was cold.
Starting point is 01:14:43 uncomfortable. Now I'm going to, I'm going to pamper myself. Not happening. What if I wasn't there? Prudip. I'll put the sweatshirt on all day long. Yeah, this is just straight up.
Starting point is 01:14:51 Pride. No, there's no denying that. Yeah, that's so funny because before I thought like that, I would have thought that's so dumb. Like, bro, put on your sweat. You're ruining your experience or whatever.
Starting point is 01:15:03 You're at the beach with your whatever. This is a freshman. This actually happened yesterday. I was at a surf contest. Yeah. And like, the clouds came in and it got cool yeah and my buddy he was all he's like having to go put a sweatshirt on and I was like oh really actually then we both went got our sweatshirts but you let him
Starting point is 01:15:25 do it yeah well he wasn't in the teams too yeah yeah so I wasn't just trying to because there's always that little thing going on in the team yeah but I kind of feel like and it goes on in general too just just you know yeah fully like like you get a rock in your shoe just don't just don't get it You leave it in there. Yeah. But before that episode with Tony, like, I would be the guy, I'd be like, no, I'm cold. You know, I can't relate.
Starting point is 01:15:48 But after that, for some reason, I think it just morphed in my mind, too. Like, you just got a BTF and you kind of take pride in it, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Next, as samurai, you should take it upon yourself to spend time playing in water. Not doing so could well result in disaster. That's part one. Obviously, I agree with that one.
Starting point is 01:16:15 You got to be in the water. Part two, samurai should, as a matter of course, engage in contests of strength. If you do not, then your muscles will become slack. Obviously, I support that one. I don't know if this guy just wanted me to read this book here, right? Because he knew that I was going to be, I mean, how could you not, how does that not relate to everything that I talk about all the time? Yeah. Be in the water.
Starting point is 01:16:41 work out. Here's what's funny about this one. He says that the peasants strengthen themselves with their day-to-day labor. They also test themselves by lifting and carrying large stones in front of the local shrines
Starting point is 01:16:57 and did push-ups in order to build their muscles and thereby increase their overall strength. However, beginning in the Miji era, such feats of strength began to be ridiculed and the use of rocks dwinded. thus it is hardly a surprise that the youth of today are weak yeah it could and also it's kind of like that now
Starting point is 01:17:21 where like you know let's say quote unquote grown adults right let's see who can lift that rock you know that's cool though right why are you saying it weird voice no because i would say generally speaking that's kind of like oh you chat children you know like what are you guys doing oh oh people make fun of that yeah I don't know, man. I think little feats of strength competitions, yes.
Starting point is 01:17:43 What do you think the CrossFit games are, though? Yeah, but you think this world's strongest man is? Yes. I agree. What do you think the UFC is?
Starting point is 01:17:51 Totally agree. But I think if it's not like organized and then like presented, you know, kind of thing, like if me and you were just cruising at the beach and then I'm like, oh, it's funny.
Starting point is 01:18:01 We did, me and me and Halleck went to Australia. Right? And we're like, oh, cruising some downtime. We're filming this, um, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:10 this video. you and Brad just turned into that 100% it was just me and him so we went from pushups he was like hey he's like hey what about the challenge you did the challenge you did in in Maine yeah yeah perfect example bag yes they're like go lift it got a shoulder the bag yeah of gravel yeah by the way so it's not like a 200 pound barbell right gravel thing yeah see and that's a perfect example but that makes you strong I think so too yeah I agree with it. I agree with it. I'm just saying like if let's say we're all at like a barbecue with like just a vast variety. Like that's totally acceptable. You know,
Starting point is 01:18:52 the 200 pound bag challenge. It's all just guys like you know. But if we were at a barbecue, you know, let's say my daughter was a birthday party or something. Yeah. But she had your kettlebells out, right? Yeah. If you if you if I challenge you to a kettlebell like let's see who can do the night whatever the 90 pound one or something at my daughter's birthday party i think aside from me you and maybe a handful of other guys that are our direct peers aside from them i think people would be like you guys are dumb that's what i think they might be right all right all right next if you allow your samurai spirit to wither clearly your body will then follow suit your skin will begin to stretch as you gain weight part one.
Starting point is 01:19:46 I think we all just agree with that one. Agree, yes. Outright. Do you think that, this goes back to the comfort question, let's take Jiu-Jitsu at a certain point where you say, I don't really care if I get caught by this guy or, you know what, I'm, that guy's training for worlds and hey, if he catches me, you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:11 Yeah, I see what you're asking. So my point is, at a certain point, you, you accept, you accept it. Do you think that's okay? I do think it's okay. I don't. I know you don't. And hey, it's not an absolute yes or no. That's why.
Starting point is 01:20:29 When it knocks on the door, when the door is, you know, hey, it's okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm all the excuses, right? Yeah. Hey, you know, these guys are young and they're training for the, you know, this competition or that competition. You don't got to get in there with them. When I hear that knocking, I slam the door.
Starting point is 01:20:49 Yeah, yeah, red flag, huh? Yeah. Violation. Actually, I opened the door and I choke that person out. Bring it. Yeah, I dig it and I'm not, you know, you're... But I see, but I think that when you accept that, when you accept it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:02 And the other thing that happens is your ego gets in the way, right? Yeah. Because what happens is you don't want to, you don't want to get tapped out. Yeah. That's bad. Yeah. So you don't want to get tapped out, so you're not going to try to. Yeah, and it's right.
Starting point is 01:21:14 That happens. Yeah, fully. And these are all different things that all kind of enter into the equation. So again, it comes back to like, why are you training? Like, why are you there in Jujitsu or whatever? Like, why are you there? So yeah, if this thing, what he's talking about where it's like, okay, if you're like letting yourself go, if you're kind of giving up and then justifying it with in this case,
Starting point is 01:21:36 oh, I'm old, they're training for world. And that's your version of giving up. then yeah that's bad but if it's like let's say you're like an older guy or whatever and maybe you kind of lost a step or whatever you know like like people do when they get older sometimes and you're like hey you know this guy's getting nuts if i rise to that level of intensity i could get hurt or something like that and it's like in okay yeah you know sometimes you can be smart yeah right yeah for instance if everyone's doing takedowns and your knees a little bit tweaked You go, hey, you know what?
Starting point is 01:22:11 Exactly right. That's something I need to check myself on sometimes. Yeah, you do. Big time, actually. Check. But that's a big one, though. Like when you start like accepting the thing. But what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:22:25 Accepting the thing. Yeah, well, what it is is when you allow your samurai spirit to wither. That's what we're talking about. Yeah. When you start saying, hey, you know what? I'd rather still just keep fighting, even though you're getting beat because the young buck is coming up and trying to get into train more than you and you got to work.
Starting point is 01:22:40 And, hey, you know, come tap me out then yeah yeah you still gotta like maintain the the spirit yeah yeah a lot a lot times when people get married or they um they stop training or whatever and they they blame it on the marriage or they blame it on their career something like that it's like ah you kind of lost yeah you know what you know what i do when people say that people say i'll say oh you know someone talking to someone they oh you know man i used to train a lot and i'll be like oh I mean, oh, what happened? And so, you know, I got two kids and, you know, I was just working a lot.
Starting point is 01:23:13 I was like, oh, yeah, I got four kids. In their defense, in their defense, everybody's different. If they have two kids, you have four, they're not you and their kids aren't your. So there's that. Plus my wife was good to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It does make it hard. It totally does.
Starting point is 01:23:32 And it does make it harder with the kids and a career and stuff like that. I didn't say it was easy. Yeah, yeah, agree. That's what I was. I was going to say. It could be slightly invalid. It's invalid at the end of the day because you either kept your warrior, your samurai spirit,
Starting point is 01:23:45 or you didn't. And if you didn't, then you allowed these things, which are true, by the way, as far as what you're, not you, but obviously this person,
Starting point is 01:23:54 this hypothetical person, if their career or family got in the way, you allowed that to happen. It's not easy. Totally not easy. It's up to you, though, at the end of the day,
Starting point is 01:24:05 I think. Samurai are never without, a sword on their hip. This means, of course, that an unarmed enemy will arm himself. So you got to always expect, in my mind, always expect that your opponent is going to be armed. Business, life, whatever you're doing. Always expect that your opponent is ready. I always expect them to be ready.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Next, as a samurai, you should take care as to where your feet step. as a matter of course. You never want to be off balance in case the unexpected occurs. Well, that's pretty self-explanatory. The amplifying information says samurai have to keep themselves prepared at all times to respond. They have to be able to react calmly in a situation without any panic. Boom. Again, does that apply to everything?
Starting point is 01:24:59 Yes, it does. No doubt about it. Samurai who are not aware of the things they should know are like cats that do not know. how to catch mice. Not aware of things they should know. Yeah. Samurai should be continuously thinking about military manners, matters. Fail to do this at your peril.
Starting point is 01:25:31 Those that serve in the military should be in a continuous state of thinking of warfare. To be negligent in this will result in failure and defeat. You know, I told us, I tell us to the young military people that I work with that this is your job, this is your profession. And you've got to do everything you can to master it. And that means what is being said right here continuously thinking about military matters. Matters. Any samurai who spends too much time playing ball, Koto guitar, plucking the mouth harp or playing the flute are liable to become a coward. Dang.
Starting point is 01:26:17 All right. And here it says those in the military should never become overly infatuated with diversionary games. Gotcha. Okay. Now, at some point, I'd like to get better at guitar,
Starting point is 01:26:28 but apparently, you know, you're going to rethink that. Next, while a samurai may be clumsy about some things, the spear, the horse, and the bow should not be among them.
Starting point is 01:26:44 I like that. This one is key. Samurai should make, make a habit of regularly listening to tales of military combat and rely on the learning found therein. This is a blatant plug for Jocko podcast. Yeah, I think. And here's the amplifying information by listening to such tales regularly.
Starting point is 01:27:10 It will keep them fresh in your mind. When actual combat arises, they will be of benefit. Boom. And I've definitely got that feedback. I've gotten all kinds of good feedback. about that from guys in the military. That they can relate. Because I'm telling you, the stories that we tell over and over again,
Starting point is 01:27:32 there are stories that happen. They're real things. There's fire and maneuver. There's people acting weird. There's the enemy doing things. These things are real. Yeah. And it's definitely helpful the more you.
Starting point is 01:27:43 I wish I would have known more when I was in. I would have been infinitely better. Yeah. We'd have enough of focus on it, though. Yeah. Kind of goes for everything too, yeah? Like because it kind of keeps your whole Like approach to life in that that
Starting point is 01:27:57 Battle frame you know Yeah So everything you know It gives you different perspective and I talk about this all the time If if you learn the arm bar right From the mount yes You learn it one way But you don't realize man there's there's
Starting point is 01:28:11 There's infinitely different ways to do it You can get it from the guard You can get it from the bottom position You can get it from a cross side You can get all the you can get the arm locked From all these different positions Yeah And every time you see it from a different angle, you get better at all of them.
Starting point is 01:28:25 Yeah. So every time you see a military situation from a different angle, from a leadership perspective, from the ground troop perspective, from the cold, from the hot, from the desert, from the mountains, you learn something. Yeah. It makes you better at it. Yeah. So looking at things through that, you know, whatever it may be, whether it be military history, whatever,
Starting point is 01:28:43 you're always kind of looking at things in that way. Yes. And you can figure, like this, we had this guy. We called him Uncle Jill. He was my friend of the family. In Hawaii. You know why, yeah. And he was a really good artist, but he used to climb trees and take us, just tree climbing.
Starting point is 01:28:58 I know random hippie thing. Actually, me talking about it right now, but it was super good fun. This guy, he'd always be like, hey, I think I could climb that. There's an instinct of, of climbing, right? I think humans have an instinct to climb things. Yeah, I make sense. I don't know. It seems like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:14 Okay. And it would be weird because he'd pull out that climbing thing. He'd be like, I bet I could climb up there. You know, that. It's kind of like, dang, if you kind of have these, like, looking at things through frames that are useful, you know, like, I think, like, but it's like, man, you can figure a lot of things out that you, a lot of people wouldn't figure out. Yeah. You know, like, I know, video's like that for sure. Be like, like, dang, that's like a good shot of that, you know, no one's, no cares.
Starting point is 01:29:38 It's just a beach or whatever, but. I was a young and listed guy and I had a friend that would, would, he would kind of like your friend, like, like to climb things. This guy would jump off things. Uncle Joe. Uncle Joe would climb things, this guy, would jump off things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. And we were on this obstacle course, this random obstacle course. And he climbed.
Starting point is 01:30:00 He would also like to climb, but then he got to the top of this thing. It was probably, let's call it 18 feet. Sure. And I slid down the rope. And the other guy slid down the rope and the chief that we were with slid down the rope. Sure. And I look up and he go, and he's kind of got like a puzzled look on his face. the guy at you guys the jumper the jumper's got like a a curious look on his face yeah inquisitive
Starting point is 01:30:26 yeah and he says i think i could jump down this 18 feet and i go do it and the chief goes don't do it and he said i think i could make it and i said do it and i said do it and the chief says don't do it and i go 10 bucks and chief goes, shut up, Jocko, don't do it. And I go,
Starting point is 01:30:53 20 bucks. And he goes, shut up. And right as he's saying that, the jumper jumped. You did it. And he made it. Jumped like 18 feet down, just landed PLF.
Starting point is 01:31:04 PLF. Yeah, parachute landing fall. Oh, like you break your fall down and roll. Yeah, it's almost like a judo fall, but with your, yeah, kind of like it.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Yeah, like it disperses. Yeah. He did it. It's good, man. Yeah. in trouble. Good. In a good hearted way.
Starting point is 01:31:21 No, man. You could have gotten her. That would have been your fault. Yeah. All that kind of thing. It would have been. Yeah, I know. I know.
Starting point is 01:31:28 You knew his jumping weakness. Yeah. His addiction to jumping and you exploited it. Next. Samurai should keep in their hearts the fact that they only die once. Forgetting this will result in failure. Samurai who forget this is the, this is, so this one's a little bit tricky for me to understand. Samurai should keep in their hearts the fact that they only die once.
Starting point is 01:31:52 Forgetting this will result in failure. And the amplification on this one says, samurai who forget that they can die at any time and in any place could end up in humiliating failure. In other words, throwing your body into the river and relying on fate to determine if you float to the shallows. If you love your life too much, you will always end. And then failure. So this is what I found interesting about this one. There's a dichotomy here. The dichotomy to me is if you care too much about being alive, then you won't take any risk
Starting point is 01:32:28 and you'll be too scared and you'll, that's going to be bad. Yeah. So that's that we know that one's bad. So we know we get that one. If you love your life too much, you will always end in failure. Maybe not always, but it's going to definitely play a role. You'll be too cautious. You won't take any risk.
Starting point is 01:32:42 You'll be scared. That one's going to be, you'll hesitate. Yeah. So we get that one. Um, the keeping your hearts that you'll only die once, okay. So that means to me, okay, so you can die at any time. I'm going to make it worth it in my mind. Make it dope.
Starting point is 01:32:59 Yeah. Make it dope. Okay. And then this whole thing about, okay, let me read it word for word. Throwing your body into the river and relying on fate to determine if you float to the shallows. I don't know. To me, that could be taken.
Starting point is 01:33:15 in two ways. And I think they're both okay. Number one is like, hey, don't just throw, just jump, don't just jump into the river and let fate decide if you're going to make it or not. No, you prepare and you train and you're ready. The other way it could be taken is, you know what? You can't control everything. You got to go.
Starting point is 01:33:37 Jump into the river. And if you're meant to make it, you're going to make it. Either one of those can possibly set your mind at ease. And what I, you know, you've heard me talk about fear. It's in a way of the warrior kid, right? Yeah. Way the Warrior kid. What happens?
Starting point is 01:33:48 You prepare everything you can, but then eventually you got to jump and see if the water, if the current takes you to the shallow water again. Yeah. That's the way it's got to be. Yeah. So that's the way I took that one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:58 I read a lot into that one. I think the first one, just because the other one would add kind of additional, like requirement, required explanation. So you're saying you agree with preparing? No, I think, yeah,
Starting point is 01:34:09 yeah, I agree with preparing. I think of the two that you just said, the first one I think makes more sense to me that that's what he meant. So you're thinking that, meant to prepare the best of your ability. Yeah, exactly. Right.
Starting point is 01:34:23 Like, it's kind of like you only have one life. And if you're gonna die, make it legit. Don't be dying trying to cross the river. You better die doing something big time, you know, kind of thing. There's one more little addition that I believe that Eric actually added on here. Yeah, this is his note. It says the line about throwing your body into the river and relying on fate to determine if you float in the shallows is very famous. It's not that famous because I googled it.
Starting point is 01:34:48 couldn't find it. Now he says, enter battle fully committed and perhaps you will emerge alive at the end. I think that makes some sense. For me, prepare the best of your ability.
Starting point is 01:35:05 Be fully committed and then don't worry about what the end's going to come because you can't control everything. I think we're good. I think I agree. Now, this one, I had to dig on this one a little bit too.
Starting point is 01:35:20 Samurai study a great many things, however, the single focus of their learning is death. And then the amplifying information here is while samurai do intensive training and study a variety of topics, what it all boils down to is seeking death. So that kind of, that one, I tried to figure out what that meant, or at least what it means to me. and I think to the most positive way I could, because seeking death, right? Are you really seeking death? Is that what you're trying to do? Well, no.
Starting point is 01:36:01 You're not helping the cause if you're seeking death, right? You don't want to die. That's not our goal. It's an occurrence that could happen. As a matter of fact, it's going to happen to all of us. But the way I look at it is what we're trying to learn, we're trying to understand and master is death
Starting point is 01:36:19 and the fear of death. If we can get over that, little hump. Little hurdle, right? Then you've mastered that. And once you're actually saying, I'm going forward, I'm prepared, then we're good. Or it could be also just like just, you know, as far as seeking challenges go,
Starting point is 01:36:40 you want to seek one challenge, then you want to seek a bigger challenge. Yeah, but he says seeking death, bro. Yeah, that's what I mean, though. So you're pursuing the ultimate challenge that beats you. Kind of like, you have much point break?
Starting point is 01:36:52 Come on, bro. Yes. Point break. There you go. Where, you know, Bodie, he's looking for the 50 year storm.
Starting point is 01:36:59 Yeah. Remember? Same thing. So he's like, I'm going to be there and all this stuff. He's always trying to push the limit, all these things, bankrupt,
Starting point is 01:37:05 skydiving, all this stuff. And, you know, finds the 50 year storm. Knows it. 100% knows it. In fact,
Starting point is 01:37:14 that was kind of like his escape from the law. catch one of those ways dies everyone knew it did he really die or was there a sequel where he lived he died it was all kind of I guess now that you mention it there's room for a sequel
Starting point is 01:37:28 there's room for a sequel exactly right but it was implied they made the same movie yeah do you see that one no not bad I see what they're doing there you know a little bit too like you could tell they were trying to target
Starting point is 01:37:39 maybe some teenagers or something like that but not bad sat through it glad it wasn't a waste of time you know some interesting. All right. This one, again, had to dig a little deeper on this one. If you were to ask, what is it that concerns a samurai? The answer is, I want to live. I want to live. Okay. So to break that down a little bit, I look at the word concerns. And what concerns means is worries or troubles. It's not I don't think they're using them more like oh that that concerns me
Starting point is 01:38:17 Yeah like like it's not saying hey what what what what concerns me What I'm thinking about it's what I'm worried about what I'm worried about is someone that's saying I want to live I want to live yeah that's what they're worried about Gotcha because someone that's saying I want to live and I think you can apply this to a lot of stuff Let's take negotiation right You get negotiation with somebody yeah if you're saying I want to win this deal I want to win this deal I want you're at a position of weakness yeah yeah so even in business You can't have the position of I want to live I want to live I want to score this deal
Starting point is 01:38:47 Yeah, I want to make I want to get this deal done like no you if you're actually Negotiating you need to be able to walk away from the deal and say no we're done I'm out strangely they say the same thing about picking up girls same thing Yes if you're all I hope I get this girl I hope get this girl that girl that girl doesn't want to be with a guy that's desperate Yeah, the amplification here says an answer to the question what do samurai worry about the answer answer is having the desire to extend their own life is something worth regretting. Samurai who value their own lives are not worth a farthing. Yeah, so we've got,
Starting point is 01:39:27 that's, I think you need to be able to set aside that. Well, I think it applies to everything. I think so, it applies to everything. Yeah. If you're so, like in jiu jitsu, if you're totally concerned about winning and not tapping out. Yeah. You're not going to learn. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:47 And even worse, you're not going to compete. You're not even going to roll people. It's not going to do well. Yeah. And you're so apprehensive and yeah, it applies a lot for sure. Here's a good one. It is important to understand that should the mirror in a samurai's heart be unclouded, then the opponent will be clearly reflected in it.
Starting point is 01:40:12 Good one. Amplification. Any samurai whose will is firm. can be described as having a mind that is unclouded. So if your will is firm, think about that. If your will is firm, you can be described as having a mind that is unclouded. In such a state, the strength or weakness of the opponent will be perfectly reflected. Next, samurai cast off thoughts of both life and death.
Starting point is 01:40:47 Their mind is set on moving forward. Amplification. Samurai do not. not dwell even for a moment on whether they live or die. Fulfilling their mission requires samurai to advance. It is what they do best, what they were made for. Yeah. That is, I think that, that one breaks down to being able to clear your mind on what
Starting point is 01:41:16 happened the last go-round, right? Not worried about the future, not worried about the, like when you're doing something, like if you're competing, you make a mistake, you have to, to put that out of your brain completely. Yeah. And you need to, okay, the mistake happened. Or you did something great. You can't jump up and down and be all happy about that.
Starting point is 01:41:33 You need to just clear your mind and keep the mind empty. Yeah. You can't get freaked out about the next shot or the last shot. Yeah. We learn that in shooting. Like, this is something you see all the time when we're shooting. We do a little, basically when you're shooting in the teams, everything is a competition. Sure.
Starting point is 01:41:52 And you'd see a guy, you're shooting headplates and they'd have six headplates in a row. which is the steel plate about the size of a head. And you got to shoot him. And when you shoot it, you instantly know if you hit a mess because it goes, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping. Ping. And if you see a guy that can't put the last one out of their head, you know, it's, ping, ping, ping, ding,
Starting point is 01:42:14 Diz. Yeah. Dich, ding. Mag change. It's bad. But a guy that's really good, he'll miss and just, he'll just miss. And he doesn't even think about it. You hear ping, ping, do ping, do ping, do ping, do ping, you just, no, no factor.
Starting point is 01:42:37 Yeah, it's, it is the proverbial choking, you know, like when you choke at the end. Like, why is this guy choking at the end when he was killing it before? And you can train your mind to do that. Yeah. You can train your mind to do that. So where you're just, and actually, when I be shooting a lot, I could get to that point. And then if I'm not shooting a bunch, I would lose that. And I was going to be like, ping, to, ah.
Starting point is 01:42:59 Get frustrated. If you're shooting regularly, you get that, you get past that. And the older you get, the more you do it, the more you can just say, nope, don't care. You know what a phrase would always work with me when someone, like if you had a coach or something, where, you know, in football, you'd have this where, like, you'd be winning the whole game. You know, and in the fourth quarter, it's like, oh, my God, we just run out the clock or out. You have that feeling. And guys would choke a lot of time. And that's not to mention.
Starting point is 01:43:26 The other team is thinking the exact opposite. We got nothing to lose. We're going to hit them. We're going to take risks. We're going to do all the, you know, so that's why guys can win or teams can win at the last minute, even though they've been getting their ass kicked the whole game. Fights kind of like that too, but I don't know. For sure.
Starting point is 01:43:42 Seem to have like more of a will, I don't know for some reason. But either way, either way, I don't know. But the phrase that would always help me is if someone would just put in my ear and say, finish strong, just say, finish strong, finish strong. And be like, yeah, it's almost like, or they'll say punch it through or something, you know, something like that that indicates, don't. Don't let up at the end mentally, you know, just go, just keep pushing the way you've. But that is a little bit different than getting distracted by what just happened.
Starting point is 01:44:08 Yeah, but because they say, yeah, it is a little bit different, but in its essence, I think. Like, what's your critical role when you played football? What was it you were trying to do each play? Were you, weren't you a receiver? Yeah. Okay, so let's say you missed a catch that you should have cough. You had to be able to put that out of your head. Right.
Starting point is 01:44:22 So it's just a mental state where it's like finish strong. It's finished strong in your mind, you know? So yeah, don't worry about your In Tujitsu, I'd get this all the time, man. When I'd win a match and then I'd win another one, you know, you gotta win like matches to the final. After two matches, I'd just start feeling this pressure. It's almost like, oh, my two match win streak
Starting point is 01:44:44 is about to come to an end. It's all like the pressure, and then you win one more and then the pressure is even on more. It's weird. It's like, oh, I wish I was done. It is weird. I would, but if someone would say something along the lines of finish strong, it would just cure the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:44:57 Because you're thinking about all these past. What would mentally throw you off? I don't know, the pressure. Could somebody say something to you that would make you freak out even more? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like what? Would it freak you out more if someone said, oh, you got this?
Starting point is 01:45:11 Or if someone says, hey, at least you made it this far. Would you then back off? Because when you're dealing with kids, you would, you know, like I got kids and you got kids too. But you know, when you got kids that are doing something competitive, like you did to arrest you? and let's say they're winning and and you could tell them hey you've done good so far go out there and have fun which is cool yeah or you could say hey you need to focus more now but because these people are going to be getting tougher yeah both of those to me would throw me up because when you say just relax you've made it this far that tells them that it's okay it and not to be to check out you know
Starting point is 01:45:50 so it depends on what their state of mind is to go into that that comment or to go into the situation where you say most of the time I feel like Like I want to tell people, either people I'm coaching. Well, no, I shouldn't say that one. I want to tell my kids, relax, go out there and have fun. Go out there and have a good time. Yeah. Because I think that is easier on their brains.
Starting point is 01:46:09 And to what your point was earlier, when people let loose and they don't feel the pressure, they tend to perform better. Better, yeah. Yeah, I agree with that fully. But if it's like, if that's like kind of the underlying attitude, like relax have fun, regardless of what? match first match last finals match whatever then yes I think so but if it's like come on you you got this one you can do this you can do this and then right when he gets to the final then you say okay yeah that's what I mean this far so it's like oh you're saying that's bad I think it can be bad depends on how they take it but if they take it like I didn't say relax yeah I said go out there
Starting point is 01:46:46 and have I go go out there and do what you do I say that a lot okay so if you say you made it this like like MMA fights I'd be like hey do what you do that's good to say if someone told me that go do what you do, that would really be empowering to do. Go do what you do. Yeah, that's good stuff to say to me. But anything to put pressure on me, like, if you do this, you win, like, you know, like one more match
Starting point is 01:47:08 and that's it. No, don't know. But I'll tell you what's interesting. Like with coaching MMA, if you would get a guy in a, get it into a guy's head, do not get taken down. And they'd go in there with that. You'd be really hard to take that person down. Yeah. And when, and you'd say, hey, as soon, if you get taken down, as soon, before you even get on the ground,
Starting point is 01:47:24 you're getting back up. You'd get that people with that mindset going and it'd be really hard for someone to take them down and hold them out because they'd be panicking yeah they'd be basically panic and get you know yeah so interesting here's a good one and this is actually the last one fittingly not engaging in any form of study will cause your mind to wander this will result in your spirit becoming unfocused and the amplification. There is nothing wrong with daydreaming. But if you study, your spirit will become focused on and shape to deal with a certain thing.
Starting point is 01:48:08 That shape will then become lost in turn. There is a song that goes. The drifting and becoming lost is what the mind does. It becomes your spirit. The mind of your spirit. Do not allow your mind to do this. And, yeah. I think that that's
Starting point is 01:48:30 that's something that we actually talk about all the time. In fact, that may be the very purpose of me doing everything that we do, which is, you know, studying and learning. And to go back to the question
Starting point is 01:48:50 that Eric, the translator, posed to me, can any of the rules in this book apply to modern warfare? As I said, not only do they apply to modern warfare, they apply to life. And the thing is, there's nothing really new here. Right? Just like an arm lock.
Starting point is 01:49:10 There's nothing really new here. But that doesn't mean that there's nothing really new here. There's always something new. We've heard these lessons before, right? We've heard them from Dick Winters. We've heard him from Bob Hoffman. We've heard him from General Patton and Hackworth, and we heard him from Woodenleg.
Starting point is 01:49:32 And I said this on the first podcast that we did. The first podcast that we did, I said, you know what to do. You know to be balanced. And you know to work out. And you know not to be gluttonous with food. And you know you should sleep late. And you know you should keep things clean and organized. And you know that your struggles now will be rewarded in the future.
Starting point is 01:50:03 so you must endure. Endure. Endure the hardship, endure the suffering, endure the pain of discipline. Endure the pain of discipline so that in the future you can have the reward.
Starting point is 01:50:26 And we know what that reward is. The reward for discipline is freedom. And I think that is all I've got for tonight. So, Echo,
Starting point is 01:50:45 thinking of rewards and freedom and trying to get better, do you have any suggestions on maybe some
Starting point is 01:50:58 ways to get better for people and ways that might also at the same time simultaneously support this podcast if people want to do something like that.
Starting point is 01:51:09 If they want to. Also, I think it is important and beneficial to add that, you know, when you endure the suffering pain, that's metaphor, for the most part. Sometimes it's real pain and suffering. Real, real. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:25 But you do that enough and you get used to it and to the point where you kind of, like, require it in a way. Like, you kind of want to, like, you know how I used to go on, like, you know, like a strict diet? And I'd be hungry a lot. But at the same time, the diet would be really effective with a good workout program. And then so when I go off the program, you know, you feel kind of almost like, for like a better term, like toxic, like, just a sack of, you know.
Starting point is 01:51:55 Yeah. And you almost, I kind of miss that hunger and the, you know, the, because you kind of associate the hunger that you always have with like being in good shape and perform. It kind of like, that's an example of like how it can be, you know? You know, like, yeah, no, that's it. eating a lot, I don't know, it's weird. You don't even have to amplify that. Just get used to it.
Starting point is 01:52:14 Yeah. Like when you're on the program. Yeah, it kind of feels good that you're on the program. You're suffering for sure. There's some quote unquote suffering there, but it feels good. And especially when you do, you know, it's funny when you think about the opposite of that,
Starting point is 01:52:28 which is when you're off the program. Yes. And you feel like crap. Yeah. And yet, what do you do? To make yourself feel better, what do you do? Instead of going on the program, instead you go to the, you go to the,
Starting point is 01:52:41 you go to the sleeve Oreos. Yeah, exactly right. The answer. Yeah, because that's like the pleasure. That's the wrong answer. Yeah. That's the instant gratification. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:49 Right? That's weird. That's the opposite of struggling now. Yeah. You're not enduring now. You're not facing the pain of discipline now. You're looking for a short-term reward. So that's why I said it in the book.
Starting point is 01:53:03 I said it in the book, the field manual, right? Like when you're on the path, it's easier to stay on the path. And when you fall off the path, man, people, people just get, they go to the downward spiral. Yeah, it's like you fall for the trick. And this, I've mentioned this as a trick. Your mind's trick. So like, you're getting, it is, man, it's mind games. You know when you fall off the path, you say when you feel like crap, because you're off the program.
Starting point is 01:53:30 And the fact that you're off the program, aside from just your physical, physicality, you feel like crap. So you got to alleviate that feeling. So you go to something that's going to give you pleasure. But ooh, guess what? Wrong pleasure. You went short term when you needed long term. You know? So that's what you do.
Starting point is 01:53:45 That is a good, a good thing. I do that when, let's say I don't feel. I've been traveling, been eating crap, the way to get back on. The way to feel good again is just to hit yourself. I mean, get some. It's true. Get some. Do a good, have a good couple base.
Starting point is 01:54:03 Like, you know, in the field manual, I've got these various workouts. and there's some of those in there that are just core, not core as in abs, because we call it gut, but core programs that are fundamental. Yeah. And I kind of know where I'm at on them. And even if I'm not going to go in there
Starting point is 01:54:24 and do a record performance, it'll put me back on track. It'll make, it'll, it'll clean my system. Yeah. Mentally and physically. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:35 And that's good. Probably used to do this thing where, you know, if you have a girlfriend, you get in a fight or something like that, or they break up with you, whatever, whatever. You know, something that makes you in a bad mood for whatever reason. They used to go to the gym and do either like shoulders or chest workout, something that would give like a really, really hard, painful pump. You know, that kind, like, I don't know, 12, 15 reps, like a minute in between, do like eight sets
Starting point is 01:55:02 of those. Like, just massively pumped. For some reason, I just feel way better. That's the same thing. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, the way, if you can give yourself, for me, you got some workouts that are just fundamental. I don't know what, there's probably a name for like medicine.
Starting point is 01:55:18 Yeah, medicine. Yeah, medicine. Yeah, medicine workouts. You got to have some of those medicine workouts that just put you back on the path. Oh, yeah. And then, you know what? Do a fast. Do 24 hours.
Starting point is 01:55:31 That's bold right there. Yeah. Do you 24 hours. You feel good. I'm telling you. Yeah. Feel good. yeah i'll do like 15 now actually pretty often too and you're right strangely you're right
Starting point is 01:55:43 good yeah i just read another article so big big no i read two articles because people people tweet them to me yeah one of them was about intermittent fasting well guess what it's good for you yeah and then the other one was about this whole depletion of will is not true yeah well i think i was right The scientists were wrong. What they were saying, I think, with what you're saying, I think there's like a slight. No, no, no, no. So you're saying it's straight up wrong what they're saying.
Starting point is 01:56:13 No, no, no. There's, I just read an article today that it's wrong. Yeah. That this idea of the depletion of, you know, if you have to resist this chocolate chip cookie, then within 20 minutes you won't be able to resist the cake because you just can't resist that much. It's a lie.
Starting point is 01:56:31 It's in there. There's proving now that it's not true. Yeah. Not true. Yeah. I feel like that's a psychological state. So it might vary from individual. But what I'm saying is if you,
Starting point is 01:56:42 if you're on the program. Yeah. And you had some medicine in the morning. Yeah. I'm telling you that it's easier to hold the line. The more you hold the line, it is to hold the line. That's the truth.
Starting point is 01:56:53 Yeah. That's the truth. You know. Get some. Get some. Speaking of holding the line and the truth, by the way, Jock has some supplements.
Starting point is 01:57:05 Jocko supplements. Crill oil, the main one, and joint warfare. So joint warfare, glucosamine and chondroitin. And curcumin, which is the other, there's, it's not just glucosamine and chondroitin. Yeah, there's curcumin. Yes. What is that?
Starting point is 01:57:25 It's more goodness for the joints. Some stuff to wage warfare against joint inflammation, pain, degeneration. Yeah. So, and that. that's a big deal because again I'm gonna say I said it before but I think this is critical I mean you know I'm sure there's like supplements that'll help you build your muscles if you're into building my I'm sure there is but really if you can maintain your joints especially if you're jiu jitzu pushing weights any kind of like so I like an dynamic movement yeah you know
Starting point is 01:58:01 because your joints take those that that brunt and they degenerate over time oh they do Is that what's happening to you? I'm on joint warfare. You're straight up generating, huh? Yeah, no, no, no. I dig it. And this is one of the cruel oil thing. I'm not embarrassed because it's kind of a funny story at my expense in a little bit.
Starting point is 01:58:21 It's not funny, funny, but it is that I was like, krill oil to my father-in-law. Now you know the truth. Yeah, I'm like over here pushing krill oil, like in life, I mean, you know. Brian, his name is Brian. Remember we went to the retreat. in Maine or Brian the black belt they came New Hampshire guys
Starting point is 01:58:39 So I kind of keep contact with him He's like he's like hey do you have any like What's the cool supplements or whatever? I was like I sent him some some of mine And he was I didn't get the report back I was like the other day but nonetheless In life I'm straight up pushing it Like I tell Greg about it all the time
Starting point is 01:58:54 I don't think I don't think he'll maybe I gave him some I don't know but it's like you know can you get benefits For something and then you're like pushing it on other people Some people do it with Bruggingly Sure. Just various things, you know, books, music. Why do we do that with music? Like, if you don't like my, you know, like, I'll be like,
Starting point is 01:59:17 hey, listen to this song, it's the best song. And then, like, you don't like it. And I'm actually mad at you. Or you're mad at me because you don't like it. Why is that? Because I just don't like your music. I know, bro. I think we kind of equated to our identity in a way.
Starting point is 01:59:31 That's kind of what I do with cruel oil. It's part of my identity now. It's part of my joints identity. I can tell you that. And joint warfare. Good ones also. Oh, wait. I didn't tell you where you can get this joint warfare and super cruel.
Starting point is 01:59:46 OriginMane.com. Click on the top of his labs. Actually, it's on the front page too. It's on Jocco Store too, by the way, jocco store. But yeah, that's where you can get it if you want it. If you want it. A lot of people have been asking for subscription. Like a recurring.
Starting point is 02:00:02 Yeah, so you just can get it every month. That's what it should be. I know, I know. We'll get it set up. Yeah. Because you get to the last three pills Or even six, you take the three Like, they only have three left
Starting point is 02:00:12 I gotta take this tomorrow Yeah After tomorrow, you know, two day shipping Unless you got an overnight shipping situation Yeah, there's just You don't want to do that to yourself No, you don't You actually for real don't actually
Starting point is 02:00:23 So we'll get that going on Yes, good idea. Thank you, Jock and Pete Also, there's some good geese on there Jock was a ghee Jock was a rash card We'll start with that American hand
Starting point is 02:00:37 I've worn it many times Can I talk about 19% improvement in performance? I got tapped out by Andy so far no got tapped out by you too maybe but that's not any different
Starting point is 02:00:55 than normal right yes but did I could I resist 19 I'm just saying the jury's still out I can't confirm really yeah but but if you remember because you remember I was wearing one of our rash cards
Starting point is 02:01:11 small action big reaction yeah and uh I kind of got after it a right and and so really in theory you're 19 plus and mine 19 plus kind of canceled itself out okay really but I felt like maybe if you got 19
Starting point is 02:01:27 I felt like that day I had like 26 oh dang 26 yeah you were bringing it like you had 26 because you were typically don't wear that right you don't really wear rash cards that much You weren't happy on the final guillotine. No. I think it was a cobra. You literally said, I saw that coming.
Starting point is 02:01:46 Yeah. And that was one of those comments that was meant to kind of deflate my victory. You know, like, you saw it coming and it was so obvious. And it was just like I just got lucky and blah, blah, blah. And I just said, yeah, definitely. I was really telegraphed that one. I didn't say you got lucky. I can't believe how pathetic it was.
Starting point is 02:02:08 Yeah, this is. You want me to give you a breakdown of your guillotine? Cobra, which I think is even more so than the guillotine. Like, you have such a good way to, like, get it. You're one of those guys that, like, you're probably walking. Like, right now you're thinking about guillotine right now. Yes. That's what I think.
Starting point is 02:02:25 That's what it feels. A lot. So it's like, when you go for it, it just lands perfectly. It's not the kind where, you know, how. Not many adjustments are getting made for. No, yep, no adjustment. So it's gotten to the point over literally like, what? like almost a decade of training with you
Starting point is 02:02:41 and that thing getting sunk in that efficiently on my own neck it almost wants it there what's funny you're not that far from the truth it's like my body like knows like hey we've been here before that's what my brain is almost like I can feel my brain
Starting point is 02:02:56 as a separate entity telling my body sometimes if I get you in a guillotine and you go crazy trying to defend it and then like and you'll get out and the next one I'll be like yeah he's going down It's like, man, I don't want that beef again because what I what I had to do to get out of that first one is like, bro, I can't do another one of those. Yeah, it's not worth it.
Starting point is 02:03:17 That's exactly what it is. And I think that's how my whole body reacts when I feel it gets sunk in. It's kind of like, oh, man, this again. We've been down this road. Same outcome, you know, my body's used to that outcome. So it just kind of accommodates it. That's what it feels like. And I think that's part of what I meant.
Starting point is 02:03:33 But it's like I saw that coming. I think your body is okay with me getting you. I think so, too. I don't like the fact that it's like that, by the way. Check. Yeah. I think talking about it might help or it might straight up not. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:48 Rashguards, Gies made in America, which is awesome. So that's awesome. Yeah. Everyone should know that. And they make them like make them. Yes. Yes. They don't like ship in some stuff.
Starting point is 02:04:00 And then, hey, guys, okay, are we starting to make yet even though it's been, you know, yeah, they make or make it from the thread. and the geese good the geese good I think the video's coming out yeah it's out the origin it's out
Starting point is 02:04:14 main video Megan I got Megan confused with with Amanda by the way whole long story I won't go into it
Starting point is 02:04:23 right now nonetheless videos out Megan made the video it's a good one actually you kind of made the video too you're in that one
Starting point is 02:04:31 I understand it I didn't make anything nonetheless uh jaku's gea's out other geese on origin all good i got two other ones so three origin geese altogether me it's the only geese all everywhere i think unless someone else can make their own material in america and you know provide the same everything then hey maybe maybe not but just saying as it right now that's how it is
Starting point is 02:04:56 also kettlebells right i'm going to keep you updated on my kettlebells situation i'm addicted to i'm addicted to them collecting and doing them so i got one more that's the cyclical from on it. The designer one. No, what do you call it? The regulation regular ones? None of those.
Starting point is 02:05:16 Anyway, Cyclops, I think is 40 something pounds. I only got one. I'm getting after it with that one too. Anyway, the good thing about these is they are balanced. Because a lot of times, and from what I hear,
Starting point is 02:05:31 I don't know, but from what I hear, like a lot of the designer ones, they're not balanced. See what I'm saying? Anyway, these are balanced. And that's the one, the ones I use and
Starting point is 02:05:39 I'm addicted to the workout, start slow with these when you do it though. Are you still doing a lot of kettle bills? Yeah, I do a decent amount of kettle bills. I was doing some Turkish get-ups the other day. Yeah, bro, I didn't get that. I thought I was going to get really into Turkish get-ups.
Starting point is 02:05:56 But I did it a few times and just, it didn't, it didn't stick. You know how stuff just sticks? Even though it's cool. Oh, you know what it was? I did it with a 35-pound one, then I did it with a 54-pound one. And I was like, dang, this is a good exercise.
Starting point is 02:06:09 It's hard. And then I went online to look up exercises. And then there's ones with guys doing it with 185 pounds, like doing it. And maybe I just got discouraged. I got encouraged when I see that. Oh, yeah, yeah, huh? You take it as like a challenge. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:22 Yeah. Maybe my whole outlook is different. Anyway, when you do these kettlebells, if you want the cool ones, to me kettlebells are dope. But if you want them extra dope, you go to on it.com slash joccoe get your kettlebells there. Just look at them. They got light ones, heavy ones. I say start light, but hey, whatever your level is, you know, get them.
Starting point is 02:06:45 Also, when you get your copy of, what is the, the translated... The 100 Rules of War. Yes. When you get this book. Yeah. Which I'm pronouncing wrong. Sorry. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:59 See, and that's really... And, okay, so I put these books, all these books. If you didn't already, I'm going to say it again, I put all the books on our website, Jock Podcast. dot com and this is for this very reason jaco doesn't know how to pronounce some of this stuff no especially the japanese stuff you know he comes to me for help i help it's not a smooth process is what i'm saying so i tried to smooth it out a little bit jacobpodcast dot com on the top says books from the episodes click on there look this episode what 101 boom from episode 101 the 100 rules
Starting point is 02:07:30 of war boom even though there's only 97 oh and if you want to get some other book you can still click through. Yeah. And support the podcast. Yeah. Even if you buy a book that is completely off of what we would normally talk about. Yeah. Like for, like, what?
Starting point is 02:07:50 I don't know. Something that's not about war. The lion, the witch, and the wardrobe. Yeah. If you go to buy that book. Yeah. You can just click through. It still supports the podcast.
Starting point is 02:08:00 It doesn't have to be the, but when you buy it, yeah. Just click through the website. And even if you're not buying a book, even if you're buying golf clubs. Golf clubs. Duttape, lawnmower, grocery bag holders, even though I don't recommend that stuff. If you carry grocery bags, you carry them with your hands, both hands. All of them, too, by the way.
Starting point is 02:08:22 Anyway, yeah, click through there. So on our website, joccopodcast.com, good way to support also. Subscribe to the podcast if you haven't already on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play. Spotify? Is that a subscriber? No, I don't use Spotify. Spotify is not. You can't get it.
Starting point is 02:08:38 I don't think you can get it. But there's a bunch, any podcasting platform. I don't think Spotify is one of them. We had requests for Spotify because then you could play it on Alexa. But I can play it on Alexa. I can play in Alexa right now. You can say Alexa play the latest Jocko podcast. Actually, not to split hairs, but it's called Amazon Echo.
Starting point is 02:08:57 Alexa is just the name you say. Yeah, but Alexa is what you say. Yeah. So that's what I said. No, you said you can get it on Alexa. Oh, okay. So it's like technically the difference. I just want us to go.
Starting point is 02:09:09 going correct and insane and doing the right thing that's all nonetheless subscribe if you haven't already is it so put it this way i'm not saying subscribe i'm saying subscribing is a good way to support also on youtube subscribe to the youtube channel put some videos on there excerpts not as many excerpts as i did last week this week because i got i learned this new video thing we we talked about it earlier i won't go into it but thank you i it's pretty technical but I wound up getting like obsessed with it. So like for, I think it was like 11 hours a day for three days. I'm making this clip that's like three seconds long.
Starting point is 02:09:48 So I didn't get to the excerpts is what I'm saying. But as a result, I think there's, I think the next video that it release is going to have some new things to it. Might be something that only I'm noticing. Maybe, maybe not. But unless that's going to be how it is. Either way, the point there is subscribe to YouTube. It's a good way to support. Yeah. I want to do a YouTube live.
Starting point is 02:10:15 Figure out how to do that. Yeah, it's not that hard. Whoa. So let's do it. Why? Just a YouTube live, a random YouTube. Like a Facebook live live on YouTube. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:25 Because I think it'd be cool to be stored on YouTube instead of stored on Facebook, right? Yeah, I think it's just a matter of, I guess it doesn't matter. Ultimately, it's just a video. Yeah, but if it's stored on YouTube, people can go back and be reading it and whatever and I'm sorry watching it. If it's on Facebook, it's way buried in some random spot. Yeah, yeah, your feet. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:47 What do you call it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:52 Yeah. Maybe I'll talk to Zucks on that one. Yeah. Nonetheless, YouTube, that's a good one to subscribe. Got some other videos aside from just the video version of this podcast. That's the good. That's the main reason I think to subscribe if you're interested in that kind of stuff. And you can sign, you know, you can get a notification if you want.
Starting point is 02:11:10 You don't need it, but you can get one. also jaco is a store it's called jaco store jocco store dot com got some new stuff on there straight out rash guards hoodies are up i know i've been saying it but they're up though is what i'm saying hats got some hats i i'm putting beanies on there oh yes that's that's good yes yeah okay i hope they're thick beanie they're uh regular i didn't know there's no i've been you know
Starting point is 02:11:41 doing some research this is a good beanie okay from all I kind of extrapolated all the you know the advice on online and these are the good ones um also some new rash cards okay the new rash guard is a rash guard that says small action on one side big reaction on the other side when I wore it for the first time uh keeling taylor said he didn't know he didn't know the layers but he saw it and he was like like the essence of jujitsu. Oh. Because it is, right?
Starting point is 02:12:17 Small action, beak reaction. It's what we're hoping for. Interesting keeling. Judo keeling. Yeah. He knew. He knows about the way. Also,
Starting point is 02:12:27 some women's stuff on there, which is cool, I think. Some patches on there. Shirts. I have a new shirt coming out. I don't have a new shirt. You have a new shirt coming out. Do I know what it is?
Starting point is 02:12:39 Nope. Oh, interesting. Not yet. A lot of times I'll get input from the online people from the people. And I kind of, you know, most of the time it's like one off things, you know, like, oh, I heard Jocko say this one thing. This is one time back then.
Starting point is 02:12:53 I really liked it. We would make a great shirt kind of thing. And although they're usually right a lot of times and thinking, hmm, maybe that might not translate into your real picky and choosy is what I'm hearing. Yeah. Put it this way. A lot of people have to hit me with it. Okay.
Starting point is 02:13:07 And this was one of those. I've actually mentioned it before. It's called Back to the Book. Oh. I think it's coming out. Anyway, that one's coming out to jocco store. jocco store.com. Take a look at the stuff on there.
Starting point is 02:13:21 If you see something you like, get something. Also, psychological warfare. On all of our, this is what psychological warfare is, on all of our journeys. I'm going back to journeys. Someone requested something the other day and it was actually better than campaign or journey, but I forget what it was.
Starting point is 02:13:40 Dang. So it was better, just not that much better. No, it was better, but I can't remember. I see a lot of stuff. That's true. You do see a lot of stuff. Well, on our campaign against weakness, journey. Every once in a while, we'll run into roadblocks points of weakness, hopefully less than
Starting point is 02:13:56 more, more times than not. We don't. We know what you're trying to say. Not very clearly. Hopefully not very often. But one, the un-infrequent time comes where you run into those weaknesses. You said uninfrequent time, but it's cool. We know what you mean, bro.
Starting point is 02:14:16 The not frequent. Yeah, the rare time that you run into weaknesses. Do not worry because psychological warfare is an album with tracks that helps you write through that. Most situations, pretty much all situations, really. Waking up early, skipping workouts, procrastination, staying on the program diet-wise, all this stuff. A lot of stuff. A bunch of tracks on there. And it's Jocko telling you pragmatically ways that you can practice.
Starting point is 02:14:43 Wait, practical, right? Practical, meaning you can practice these things. It's not just some philosophical slash inspirational stuff. I would say do. Yeah, it's more due. Practical. It's kind of the tame word for it. But nonetheless, practical advice coming directly from Djokov,
Starting point is 02:15:02 directly into your ear on why you shouldn't give in to these weaknesses. It's like a little spot in your campaign. That's what psychological warfare is. It's a good one. It's a real good on. By the way, that was the number one spoken word albums on iTunes for about nine months, and it finally got beaten out by another album called Disfinables Freedom Field Manual, which is people keep asking me.
Starting point is 02:15:25 It's available as an album with tracks on iTunes, Amazon Music, Google Play, and other MP3 platforms. Also on Amazon, you can get Jocka White Tea. What's good about Jocka White Tea is if you drink Jocka White Tea, you are guaranteed 100% to be able to deadlift 8,000 pounds minimum minimum. I don't care what's your body weight, 125? Cool. 8,000 pound deadlift. So with a guarantee like that, we're looking pretty good.
Starting point is 02:15:55 Yeah, try it out. There's some books, weigh the Warrior Kid. By the way, I just finished Way the Warrior Kid book number two. What the whole thing or the draft? The draft. I mean, there's going to be some edits. Yeah, yeah, the story is done. The story is completely done.
Starting point is 02:16:09 it's a good story. My nephew read it. And he said it's better than the first one. That's seen a lot because usually the second one. He left me a little message. And you know what his message said? Hey, Uncle Jocko. That's what it said.
Starting point is 02:16:24 And he's in fifth grade. So it's pretty accurate assessment, we're assuming, from him. Good case study. But the book, number one, is out right now. And it is the book that you wish you had when you were a kid. I wish I had it when I was a kid. Didn't have it.
Starting point is 02:16:39 No one had it. Hadn't written it yet. No. Hadn't learned the lessons. So if you want to give a kid a better life, get in this book. Also, extreme ownership. Check it out. New edition is coming out.
Starting point is 02:16:54 Matter of fact, let me rephrase that. New edition is out. It is available right now. It has a new forward in it where we talk about kind of what we've seen since the book came out. It has color pictures in it. Ooh. It's good.
Starting point is 02:17:13 It has Echo's name in it. Why is Echoes name in it? Echo's name in it is in it because we took Q&A from the podcast about leadership and put the really important questions and answers in there so you can refer back to them without having to go through 101 podcasts and find the one question that you want to get. No. Now you can find it in the book. It's got a new cover on it, which is black, more cool. And, you know, because the Q&A is from you, I kind of need to thank everyone because this book is not just Laef and me anymore.
Starting point is 02:17:54 Now it's Laf and me and Echo and everyone that ask questions and help with the podcast by asking questions. So thanks to you all for the new version of our new book. also the discipline equals freedom field manual is now available worldwide and if you've got questions this book has answers if you're wondering what workout should I do what martial art should I train in how do I know what a good jihitsu gym is what should I eat what should I do when I'm injured what should I do if I don't feel like working out what should I do if something bad happens how should I overcome failure if you've got those kind of questions this book has the answers
Starting point is 02:18:35 Discipline equals freedom, field manual. Get it for yourself and get it for anyone else that might want answers to these questions. The book is not normal. It's not normal. I know it's not normal. Because you know why? I'm not normal. No, the book is, it's black.
Starting point is 02:18:55 And the book, it only has a black cover. It has black pages as well. So some people don't like that. And you know what I say? don't read it. If you don't want to read that, cool, don't read it. And as I said,
Starting point is 02:19:11 if you want to get the book on audio, it is not on audible. It is on MP3 as an album with tracks. You can get it through iTunes, Amazon, music, and Google play. That way, you can listen to it as an album with tracks. This is a book that you don't sit there.
Starting point is 02:19:27 It's not a story. It's not a story. You might want to listen to one section of it at a different time you might be saying hey I need to listen to a section about destroyer mode right how do I get into destroyer mode one day you might want to read about the fear of failure or you listen to the fear of failure one day you might need to hear sugar-coated lies one day you might want to hear about the warpath so you knew when you have it as an album with tracks you can listen to it whatever order you want you can set it as your alarm you can put it in your
Starting point is 02:20:02 playlist, that kind of thing, which you can't do with a lame, audible book. So that's that. Also, if you like the leadership principles that we talk about on this podcast and you want to get them for your team or business, we have a leadership and management consulting company. It's the premier leadership and management consulting company. Did I say that? Yes, I did. Eschelon front.
Starting point is 02:20:27 Me, Leif, J.P., Dave Burke. if you want us to come and work with your company and get your leadership aligned and get your leadership into destroyer mode email info at echelonfront.com and if you have any more questions or answers for us or something that you want to tell us
Starting point is 02:20:51 you can find us up on the interwebs on Twitter on Instagram and on the Facebook people echo is at echo charles and i am at jocco willink and to the soldiers sailors airmen and marines who are overseas right now defending our nation and our freedom thank you for your sacrifice and to the families of those men and women thanks for supporting your warriors while they are deployed
Starting point is 02:21:29 is one of the hardest jobs in the world and thank you for doing it and to the police law enforcement firefighters paramedics and other first responders thank you for protecting us here at home you do not get thanked enough i'm thanking you right now and for the rest of you out there maneuvering through life trying to get the upper hand on the enemy or the competitor or trying to get the upper hand and get control of yourself, you know what to do. You know what action to take. You know how to win. So get out there and get after it. And so until next time, this is Echo and Jocko. Out.

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