Jocko Podcast - 119: A Detailed Guide How to Live Life The Gentle Way. "Mind Over Muscle", by Jigoro Kano

Episode Date: March 28, 2018

0:00:00 - Opening: Last moments before a plane crash on Sept 11th. Excerpt from "The 11th Day", by Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan. 0:19:48 - "Mind Over Muscle: Writings From The Founder of Judo", by Jigoro Kano. 2:12:30 - Final Thoughts and Take-Aways. 2:25:18 - Support: JockoStore stuff, Super Krill Oil and Joint Warfare and Discipline Pre-Mission, THE MUSTER 005 in DC. Origin Brand Apparel and Jocko Gi, with Jocko White Tea,  Onnit Fitness stuff, and Psychological Warfare (on iTunes). Extreme Ownership (book), Way of The Warrior Kid 2: Marc's Mission, The Discipline Equals Freedom Field Manual, and Jocko Soap. 2:57:56 - Closing Gratitude.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

This is Jocko podcast number 119 with Echo Charles and me Jocco Willink. Good evening, Echo. Good evening. On September 11th, 400 miles from the collapsed World Trade Center towers, three dozen passengers and crew aboard, United Flight 93 remained in airborne purgatory. Starting at 9.30 a.m. for some 30 minutes, 14 of them managed to telephone either loved ones, or operators on the ground public relations man mark bingham got through to his aunt's home in California this is mark he began I want to let you guys know that I love you in case I don't see you again then I'm on United Airlines flight 93 it's being

hijacked two other callers from the plane not only provided information but also gleaned vital news from those they phoned Tom Burnett chief operating officer for a medical devices firm made a number of brief calls to his wife Dina speaking quietly he asked her to contact the authorities and told her that a male passenger had been stabbed later that he had died a woman perhaps a flight attendant was being held at knife point and the hijackers claimed they had a bomb Jeremy Glick, a salesman for an internet services company, also managed a phone. In a long conversation with his wife, Liz, Glick said the hijackers had put on these red headbands. They said they had a bomb.

They looked Iranian. The bomb was in a red box, he said. The couples told each other how much they loved each other. Glick said I don't want to die and his wife assured him that he would not she urged him to keep a picture of her and their 11 week old daughter in his head to think good thoughts Burnett's wife who had been watching the news on television told him that two planes had crashed into the World Trade Center my God he responded it's a suicide mission by the time he phoned a third time after news of the

crash into the Pentagon she told him about that too burnett seems to have been seated beside glick and apparently relayed all this information to him were they to do nothing the two men must have agreed they were sure to die anyway when the hijackers crashed the plane they resolved to fight for their lives a group of us burnett told his wife are getting ready to do something i'm going to Take a vote, Glick said on his call. There's three other guys as big as me, and we're thinking of attacking the guy with the bomb. So began the minutes of brave resistance, the clearly defined act of courage that has lived on in the national memory. Glick and others were equipped in more ways than one to confront the hijackers.

Glick was 6'1 and a former college judo champion. Burnett at 6'2, had played quarterback for his high school football team. Mark Bingham was a huge man six foot four and at 31 still playing rugby. A few years earlier, he had fended off a mugger who had a gun. His mother got the impression as he talked from Flight 93 that her son was talking confidently with a fellow passenger. She felt that maybe someone had organized a plan. At 942, a GTE Verizon supervisor based near Chicago began handling a call from yet another powerfully built flight 93 passenger.

Todd Beamer, a star Oracle software salesman, was married with two sons and his wife was expecting again. He first dialed his home number, but either failed to get through or thought better of it. Instead explaining that he'd not want to upset his pregnant wife he asked the phone supervisor Lisa Jefferson To pass along a loving message as they talked beamer suddenly exclaimed shit. Oh my god. We're going down. Jesus help us From the passengers around Beamer came prolonged shrieks of terror then he said no wait We're coming back up. I think we're okay now Shaken Beamer asked Jefferson to say the Lord's prayer with him our father who art in heaven Just before Beamer and the operator had begun talking Cleveland lost Cleveland control lost

Flight 93's transponder the signal that indicates an airplane's location and altitude that 955 the hijacker pilot set a navigational aid relating to the plane's direction He was heading it indicated for Washington DC Jeremy Glick still on the phone to his wife Liz said I know I could take this guy with the bomb Then joking he had mentioned that the hijackers had knives I still have my butter knife from breakfast Todd Beamer continuing his conversation with the GTE supervisor Jefferson told her that he and a few others were getting Together to jump the guy with the bomb Was he sure that that was what he wanted to do? Yes came the response I'm going to have to

go out on faith. I don't have much of a choice. The plane was flying erratically again. Operator Jefferson heard the sounds of an awful commotion, raised voices, more screams. Then, are you guys ready? And Todd Beamer's voice saying, let's roll. A phrase that in family life he'd like to use to get his children moving. Okay, Jeremy Glick told his wife, Liz, I'm going to do it.

His wife told him he was strong and brave and that she loved him. Okay, he said again, I'm going to put the phone down, I'm going to leave it here, and I'm going to come right back to it. Liz handed the phone to her father, ran to the bathroom, and gagged. Flight attendant Sandra Bradshaw was in the galley, boiling water for the passengers to throw on the hijackers. On the phone to her husband, she signed off quickly. Everyone's running up to first class. I've got to go. Bye.

The cockpit voice recorder registered the moment the hijackers realized what was happening. At just before 9.58, a hijacker asks, Is there something? A fight? There's a knock on the door followed by the sounds of fighting. Then in Arabic, let's go, guys, Allah is the greatest. Allah is greatest. Oh, guys, Allah is greatest. Oh, Allah. Oh, Allah.

Oh, the most gracious. Then loudly, stay back. A male voice, a native English-speaking voice. that Tom Burnett's wife has recognized as that of her husband is heard saying in the cockpit in the cockpit Followed by voice exclaiming in Arabic they want to get in here hold hold from the inside hold Then from several English speakers in unison hold the door and then from a single English speaker stop him Falled repletedly by sit down sit down then again from an English speaker. Let's get them Flight 93 now down to 5,000 feet

had begun rolling left and right Jeremy Glick's father-in-law listening intently on the phone his daughter had handed to him now heard screams in the background on the cockpit voice recorder there is the sound of combat continuing then in Arabic there is nothing shall we finish it off no not yet when they all come we finish it off then we finish it off then we from Tom Burnett I am injured the flight data recorder indicates that the plane pitched up and down climbed to 10,000 feet turned Glick's father-in-law phone clapped to his ear heard more shrieks muffled now like those of people riding on a roller coaster in Arabic on the voice recorder oh Allah oh Allah oh gracious in English in the cockpit if we don't will die in Arabic up down up down up down from a distance perhaps from Todd Beamer roll it crashing sounds then in Arabic Allah is the greatest Allah is the greatest is that it I mean shall we put it down yes put it in and pull it down cut off the oxygen cut off the oxygen cut off the oxygen up down up down up down more violent noises for as long as a minute and then apparently from a native

English speaker shut them off go go move move turn it up then in Arabic down down pull it down pull it down down apparently from an English speaker down push push push push push in Arabic hey hey hey give it to me give it to me give it to me give it to me give it to me give it to me give it to me intermittent loud air noise on the cockpit recorder moments later in arabic allah is the greatest a law is the greatest a law is the greatest a law is the greatest a law is the greatest a law is the greatest there sounds of further struggle and a loud shout from a native english speaker no two seconds later in arabic In a whisper now.

Allah is the greatest. A law is the greatest. A law is the greatest. A law is the greatest. Jeremy Glick's father-in-law still listening on the ground. Heard high-pitched screams coming over the line. Glick had left open when he left the join to join the rush to the cockpit. Then wind sounds, followed by banging noises,

as though the phone aboard the plane was repeatedly being done. banged on a hard surface. After that, silence on the phone, silence on the cockpit voice recorder. And that is an excerpt from a book called The Eleventh Day, which came out in 2011 by Anthony Summers and Robin Swan. And we all know what that silence meant. Flight 93 crashed into a field near the Diamond T mine and Stony Creeped township Somerset County, Pennsylvania, killing 33 innocent passengers, seven innocent crew members,

and four demonic hijackers. That day changed my world, and it changed our world, the world as we knew it, and it commenced years and years and years of war that has caused. so many lives and at some point on this podcast I'm sure we'll go into more details about the horrors of September 11th you probably be multiple podcasts but for today I wanted to focus on one aspect of one part of the life of one man on that flight the man named Jeremy Glick who by all accounts was an amazing human being a son and a husband and a father but for those of us who fight

or who trained martial arts in general something caught our ears when we heard about the heroics on flight 93 we heard that Jeremy Glick was a martial artist that he was a wrestler and that he was a judoka and as a wrestler He wasn't competitive all-state wrestler for Saddle River day school in northern New Jersey and if you know anything about New Jersey wrestling it's an extremely competitive wrestling state and beyond that as a judo player Glick was an American National Collegiate judo champion while he was a student at the University of Rochester. And in September of 2008, seven years after the incident at September 11th, there was a memorial ceremony at the crash site in Pennsylvania.

And the United States Judo Association placed a granite stone there as a memorial with an inscription on it. And the inscription reads, The United States Judo Association promoted Jeremy Glick to the highest rank of Black Belt for living the principle of judo. Mutual welfare and benefit sacrificing his life for our country,

September 11th, 2001. Living the principle of judo. And that's a bold statement. It indicates something very powerful and very meaningful and as a patriot and as a martial artist and specifically as a jiu-jitsu practitioner, which is where judo was derived from. I wanted to explore a little deeper into the principles of judo to see what we can learn from it. And I don't want to go into the full details of explaining the relationships between Jiu-Jitsu and Judo, but it is a very close relationship. It was one of Jigoro Cano's top students and Kenos, the creator of Judo, but Maida

that brought Jiu-Jitsu to Brazil from Japan and introduced Jiu-Jitsu to Carlos and Aalio Gracie and that's the beginning of Brazilian jiu-jitsu as we know it today and Maida even called it jiu-jitsu. He didn't call it judo and from what I understand at that time, even Kano had not been actually calling it judo in Japan. He hadn't renamed it yet. He was still calling it jujitsu and some people were calling it Kano Jiu-Jitsu or Kodokon Jiu-Jitsu. But, But jujitsu, especially Brazilian jiu-jitsu, is without question rooted in judo. And if you trace it back just a little bit further, judo is also rooted back into jiu-jitsu. That's where judo came from.

Judo came from jiu-tzu. And mixed in with all that, there's all kinds of evolution and there's changes and there's politics and there's history. But there's that thread that ties them all together. and that thread can be recognized in many of the principles that are shared both in judo and in jujitsu the same principles that played a role in jeremy glick's attitude on that clear sunny september day and perhaps we can all learn something from those principles and to look at those principles I thought it would be best to go to the source and I have a book called mind over muscle that is It's it's a compilation of writings from Gigoro cano and

Kano was a very interesting person. He was a he was an educator. He was a pioneer in sports. He worked with the Olympic Committee He was a jih Tzu practitioner eventually founded judo and he founded the most famous judo school the original judo school the Kodokan And the book like I said as as you can tell by the title it's a compilation of different sources of his writings and There's a little bit of overlap and repeat and I'll do a little bit of that But what I like about it is it gives a good Overall view of the ideas and the vision that Kano had for Judo So I know there's a lot of judo practitioners out there and obviously a lot of jiu jitsu practitioners out there that listen to the podcast and Everyone knows that these two are closely related and sometimes there's

I guess you'd say Tension between the two sometimes But the fact of the matter is they're so closely related that it's it'd be more it'd be more intelligent instead of look for the tension between the two to find where the two can complement each other so here we're going to the book and once again the book is mind over muscle writings from the founder of judo jikoro cano and here we go to start it off the purpose of jiu jitsu so interesting that he starts this off it's talking about jiu jitsu he's not even talking about judo yet the original purpose of jiu jitsu was to practice a method of combat.

While combat may have been at the core of jiu jitsu practice, it also had the related goals of physical education and mental training. There is little dispute that because training to fight involves moving the body in various ways, jiu jitsu indirectly became a form of physical education, but for the same reason, it also became a method for training the mind. All forms of combat require ingenuity and the use of very much. tricks and devices. So all forms of combat, all forms of combat. This is important. Because if you're a soldier, you're a Marine, or you're a airman right now, we're talking

about everything that you do. And I'll tell you what, if you're a business person, we're talking about what you're doing too. All forms of combat require ingenuity and the use of various tricks and devices. So in the course of jiu-jitsu training, the mind is unconsciously trained in many ways. Courage, composer, composure, and other traits that are beneficial in life can also be developed. Now, I'll tell you what, this is important. Because people ask me a lot, like, you know, how'd you figure all this stuff out, Jocko? Like, people ask me that.

And, you know, I always try and explain, you know, like it was a long course and I was in the military for a long time and I had an open mind and I listened to paid attention to the people that were leading me and I paid attention to the people that were leading me. And I paid attention to the good ones and I paid attention to the bad ones But I'll tell you if I didn't I Jiu Jitsu opened my mind up and did these things and again unconsciously Like I started to perceive things the way that I was learning Jiu Jitsu And that's why and I've got some I got you know I've got friends that I've gotten into Jiu Jitsu over the years and You can tell and I don't know what makes some people get the bug and some people don't get the bug

But if you get the bug and you start to think in a Jiu Jitsu mindset then you'll it'll really open up your mind now that being said there's some people that are heavily into jiu jitsu but they don't apply jiu jitsu to the the other aspects of their life which is a big mistake it's a big mistake you got to apply it both ways and I think that's one of the things that that cana was trying to do with judo was to ensure that you did that to ensure that his students did that back to the book it was my belief that with a few improvements judgments, Jiu-Jitsu could become a comprehensive method of physical education, intellectual training, and moral education.

I therefore spent several years developing my ideas and finally established the Kodokan Judo. I did this by thoroughly researching the Jiu-Jitsu that it existed up until the time, up until that time as much as possible, keeping what I felt should be kept discarding what I felt should be discarded, thoroughly studying the techniques and theories and establishing them in a way that would be most applicable. to today's society. It's not even talking about just combat. He's talking about, like, he's not talking about fighting.

He's talking about applying these things to society. So there's a little bit of, I think he was young when he did this too. He established the Kodokan at a very young age. I want to say he was like 22 years old. He was really young. So he studied Jiu-Jitsu, thought some things were good about it,

thought some things were bad about it, and said I'm going to make my own deal. Now, here we talk a little bit here. There were various reasons why I chose not to use the term jujitsu which described what was ordinarily practiced and instead employ the name judo the main reason was that dough the the dough part of judo it means way is the major force there's a major focus of what the kodakon teaches whereas jitsu skill is incidental i also wanted to make it clear that judo was a means of embarking on the way

So he saw this as like a complete a complete life system, right? Not just fighting this is the way Judo is the way for him and that's why instead of calling it Jiu-jitsu he called it you know not not tick techniques but like the way Right back to the book when we talk about Jiu-jitsu today People often think of a technique in which one does only dangerous things such as choking an opponent and bending his joints or even in extreme cases killing him Essentially we think of something that is harmful to the whole book To the body while offering no benefits true Jiu Jitsu does not espouse this in particular the Kodokan judo I devised never involves doing anything dangerous I cannot stress enough that what I advocate is far from a violent or dangerous sport now

Sure I understand the principle here but just so everyone knows judo doesn't play around No if you've if you've gone with a high level judo do you dodo play You are getting thrown hard and aggressively onto your head. Yeah. It's a brutal sport. It's very aggressive.

Yeah. Do you think that that's how, or that's what, because when it comes down to the essence, it's kind of like, and there's just me totally guessing, where judo, well, as it is now, it's like, okay, the goal is basically to put the guy on his back. That's it, to put him down on the ground. Not to hit him, not to knock him, not, Put them on the ground, right?

It just kind of seems, oh, okay, that's not really violent. That's kind of the little friendly competition. Put them on the ground. Now with any competitive situation, guys are going to get after it. And it slowly just evolves into all these crazy things. It doesn't evolve. It escalates, even just the whole way. So even consider like basketball, for example, the goal, put that ball in that basket.

That's it. You can go from here, come close, lay up, whatever. Then you get this competitive drive, these people, athletic abilities, all this stuff. Now it's turning into weird slam dunks now, Brad, you didn't have to slam dunk that thing But it's still the same thing putting the ball you know in the thing just in this weird aggressive I guess yeah I guess yeah I guess I guess a layup Compared to a Tomahawk slam dunk right yeah and if you compare a Let's say some sort of a basic takedown compared to like a full

Ipon Slam you in your head yeah I could see your I could see your comparison See what's saying? There's an escalation yeah and then the In his mind, he was like, hey, look, this is just a takedown. You tell that to a 21-year-old Judo competitor that's got you in the air. I didn't just a takedown. You're going to pay the man. Yeah, exactly right.

Just like, you know, a basket. You know, oh, yeah, he made that basket. No, but he slammed on you and, you know, embarrassed you in front of it. You know, like it goes into this whole different realm. But the essence is still there, though. Just a basket. Just a basket. Just a takedown.

Yep. All right, here we go. Back to the book. the organization of Kodakon judo is basically the same today as it was when I established it but at that time when explaining judo I divided it into three parts its use as a fighting method martial art as a training method physical education and as a method of mental training including the development of the intellect and morals and the application of the principles of judo to everyday

life see this is again this is what's interesting to me is and he said it was subconscious like I subconsciously the especially in the beginning with Jiu-Jitsu. And I'll tell you, it was beyond just me applying Jiu-Jitsu to like my life and to what I had learned about combat. I also took what I had learned about combat and applied that into Jiu-Jitsu, right? Like I said, oh yeah, you know what this is like

when you flank someone, right? Yeah. Like even when I first learned, one of the, one of the biggest wake-up calls that you get early in Jiu-Jitsu is like, oh, what I need to, do is attack your neck and when you defend your neck I take your arm right that's a flank right that's a straight up flank that's that's a game changer like

that's a complete game changer when you realize that that's a complete game changer well the there's a seal buddy mine that have been training when I first started out he'd been training for like a year no but he'd been training off and on kind of bits and pieces and so then I started training in hardcore like every day so after like two weeks like literally two weeks I went and trained with him and I got him like a bunch of times and I was all pumped up and And and I said to him I was like hey, you know what you the mistake that you're making is you're trying You're going for my arm and I know you're going for my arm and I know how to defend that

I was like you got to go for something else and then like a week later we rolled again and he got me He did what I told him to do to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was like oh dang Oh, oh dang so that was a big wake-up call. It's a big not even a waste it's a When you realize oh you've got to do you got to set you got to fight the person. Yeah, that's what you have to do Yeah big wake-up call so crazy when you see two people rolling and all they're doing is flanking each other Oh yeah, and you're flanking the flank the flank you know It's like but what's interesting is as I started working with like leaders and teaching about leadership how important the idea of what flanking is from a leadership and a and a human interaction perspective Mm-hmm another situation did you got to flank people you want to attack that ego? Yeah, all right

Back to the book, two methods of instruction are used. Cata, which is form, and Randori, which is free practice. It's what we call in the jiu-jitsu rolling. When establishing the Kodokan, I employed a method that emphasized Randori, and by which Kada naturally came to be understood during Randori practice. This is rather, so he focused on rolling a lot when he established Kodakon. Pay attention, this is very interesting stuff. Randori.

Rondori. That's like rolling. It's rolling. It's rolling. I'm just gonna remember that. Yeah. Use it. This is rather like teaching composition

without using a grammar book or teaching the basis of grammar while teaching how to write an essay. So this is like, hey, man, write this down and you're gonna make some corrections? And like that's basically rolling live, right? When there are only a few people undergoing the training, this was not a problem.

But the number of beginners gradually increased and it became impossible to teach Kata at the same time as Randori. So a few years after I established Kodakon Judo, I created 15 kata for throws and 10 kata for combat called kime no kata which meant forms of self-defense So he realized he couldn't teach the same way he couldn't teach the masses So what you know that's that's a big change right there's a big big change for anyone that's not into martial arts There's a big big difference between rolling and learning kata and in matter of fact we make fun of kata right? I'm not saying that's a good thing

Yeah, but we I shouldn't say We completely make fun of it but like I'll see Dean and Let's say he's I can tell he's tired, you know he's looking all worn out and I'll see him and I'll like oh yeah hey what's going on man you want to train some cada today Meaning hey are we just gonna go through the motions right? Drill you know no no we're gonna train right So that when I say make fun yeah you don't make fun of it because because what we call Cata basically in jiu jiu jitzu we call it Yeah, right you're gonna drill this drill drill drill drill which drilling is part of winning you got to drill to win right Andre Galvao drillers make killers drillers make killers there it was all those things That being said we all know

If you do nothing but drill You're not gonna be able to pull these moves off going live and this with the old What we now call traditional martial arts That was all cada And all cada will get you nowhere That's when the guys when you saw the the 90s when the jiu jihitsu invasion happened You know the guy would try his 12 point strike cata method a against a blue belt and jihitsu the blue belt will do a sloppy double

leg take him down to the ground and choke them out yeah because they rolled live they did randori so you have to have balance but you gotta train live randori and at the same time you got a drill too so be careful don't do too much of one seems like the drilling helps you get a hold of what you do with your body and then the brand dory the light the rolling yeah gives you you know control or better skill in dealing with other people Friday so and that's what Jesus is both you know Where you can kind of and you're gonna get you're gonna get You're gonna get

Reactions that are different right right and this is the same thing this is the same thing like when I was training guys in the teams like You could teach them the basics of how to enter a room and then how to move down a hallway But as soon as you put a A another person there going against them Yeah, it was like they different things happen Yeah things are gonna happen and you gotta be ready for so you have to go live i've told i told you this story before but when when i first started playing basketball and my coach had the old school

had the old school hosiers coach right yeah you know the old school you seen the movie hoosers no oh day so in hosiers the guys old school coach like hey no you're not even allowed to shoot we're defense defense defense defense run the drills drill drill drill we never scrimmaged and the first time i played in a real game it was the first time i played in real game i went down the corner and like called the play and expected to be able to execute the play that we had run the little pattern and the the other point guard just picked me off I was in seventh or eighth grade he just picked off every pass I threw I was just because I'd never done Randori on the basketball court never scrimmaged never played you know you gotta balance those two all right next back to the book next I would like to briefly discuss free practice involving throwing and grappling techniques which I will over refer to by their Japanese names. So the two Japanese names that he's gonna use are

Katami Waza and Nagawazi. Now Waza means technique, right? And you probably knew that. A lot of us, a lot of us in Jiu-Jitsu we talk about, or what we know about Judo, we talk about N-W-A-Z-A. N-E-W-A-Z-A. No-W-A means groundwork. That's what it means.

Matwork, basically is what I mean. I think the N-E actually means like laying down or sleeping or something like that so it means you're down on the ground katami waza is the katami waza is like the grappling part but you're not necessarily you're not necessarily laying down in all grappling positions so that's why they call it katami waza but but nagi waza is the throws all right so here we go back to the book when I was training I practiced katami waza quite a bit but after coming to appreciate nagawaza I came to believe that Naguazi should be emphasized in the technical training aspects of judo.

This does not mean I considered Katamiwaza to be useless, of course, but I stress practicing Nagawaza first, followed then by Katami Waza. So he focused on the throwing techniques. This is because doing Katami Waza first hinders progress in Nagywaza. While it makes sense that learning Nagawaza first makes it easier to remember Katamiwaza as at a later stage when I established Kodakon I encourage the practice of Naguasa precisely for that reason as a result at that time a great great number of experts in Naguaza were fostered in the early years of the Kodakon as a result of emphasizing Naguasa however

Katamiwaza gradually became neglected that's very interesting so anyone that knows anything about judo and jiu jitsu one of the biggest differences is in jiu jiu jitsu we focused a ton on groundwork too much Well, you could say too much, right? Because there's jih Tzu people that don't know how to take someone down. And that's very problematic. So he's saying that, hey, he focused on that. And you can kind of hear what he's saying.

So if you, it's real easy to ignore the standup when you realize how effective the ground game is. And you also realize that if you, if you understand how to take the person down, then you're going to get in good positions and all that. So he just kind of leaned in that direction. And it says that it ends up getting a little bit neglected and also if you don't know the rules of judo Emphasize the takedowns because the rules of judo if I take you down if I throw you with a nip on which means Something some other body part other than your feet touches the ground Before your feet do during a throw I win automatically Instant win it's like a submission

And so because of that they they practice a lot of stand-up Whereas in jiu-jitsu you can get thrown ten times and you can still catch person in a triangle and Yeah, and you win you can be on the ground doesn't matter Yeah, and you can get pinned in judo too if you get held down for 30 seconds about 30 I think it's 30 seconds on on your back You get pinned you lose Yeah, that doesn't happen in jiu jitza you can have someone across side on you for four or seven eight minutes Minutes yeah just you haven't even moved yeah you didn't lose and you sneak out of there and grab a little Kimura You get the victory sure all right back to the book at the Kodakon we study and practice techniques with the purpose of using mental and physical energy

most effectively in order to achieve one's goal no matter what the endeavor, which is the basic principle of judo. And he's going to talk about this a ton. The basic principle of judo is like efficiency. So those in training do not merely, now, but this is so important. Those in training do not merely imitate the actions of the master or practice without understanding the reasons behind what they are doing. But rather consider the methods and train in accordance with detailed principles.

For that reason what once took five or six years to achieve can now be accomplished in three years This is huge in jiu-jitsu and I saw this transition take place when I started learning jiu-jitsu we learned moves Now everyone teaches concepts. I mean you still teach moves But if you don't know the principles of them and it's the same thing when I was teaching guys in the teams like you teach them a Maneuver on the battlefield You can learn the mechanics of the move on the battlefield But if you don't understand why those mechanics are important then it doesn't make you don't even have you don't have it you don't get it Same thing in the business world.

You can tell someone like, hey, here's what you should tell your subordinates right now. Yeah, yeah. But that technique, they can use it and it'll work okay, but that's nothing compared to saying, here's why it's important that you tell your subordinates of this thing and here's how you want to lead them. That's what gives them the game is when they understand the principles. Yeah. Yeah, that's why those introductory courses are so critical. And I'm talking about jiu-jitsu, obviously, where you get a new guy, first-day guy,

And he jumps in a class and the class they're teaching the you know the mechanics of a certain move Meanwhile everyone in the class they're not first-day people. They know the concepts behind it, but they come in and it's just it's a just a different language doesn't stick Yeah, you can mechanical yeah yeah it's like trying to teach someone if you if you if you if you had a non-native English speaker And you walk in and you're gonna teach him of you know a vocabulary word yeah Which is like you know audacious right? Yeah, yeah, yeah he does no context to put that in that's not the word to teach him. He doesn't even know how to say I. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when you start teaching someone to Uma Plata,

and they don't understand what an arm block are, is they're going to have issues. Yeah, that's like teaching them fundamentals. Do you want catch up with that? Teach someone who doesn't know any English. Do you want catch up with it? Teach him that and then send them out. He doesn't know when to use that, you know. I know how to say it. You're not just going to roll into the post office and

be like, hey, do you want ketchup with that? It doesn't make sense. No, it does not. Unusable. Back to the book, various records and accounts have been passed down over the ages with regard to the true meaning of Jiu Jitsu. Then he's talking about the actual word Jiujitsu, but few of them are accurate. It can be said, though, that the name apparently derived from the expression Ju Yoko Go Oshishishu, which can be translated as softness controls hardness.

This expression needs closer attention. Let's assume I have an opponent who possesses power to the value of 10. Whereas I must face this opponent with power only to the value of seven. When my opponent thrusts at me with all of his energy, it follows that if I resist, I will be overcome even if I expend all my power. If, however, rather than resist my more powerful opponent, I adjust and adapt to his energy and pull back, he will fall forward under the strength of his own attack. His power of 10 will become merely a power of three, and he will stumble and lose his balance, I will not be pulled off balance and can pull away, maintain my

stance, and retain my original power of seven. In short, resisting a more powerful opponent will result in your defeat. Whilst adjusting you to and evading your opponent's attack will cause him to lose his balance, his power will be reduced and you will defeat him. This can apply whatever the relative values of power, thus making it possible for weaker opponents to beat significantly stronger ones there you go yes sir that's the way it works can a level 10 beat a level look at a level one beat a level 10 that's tricky there's a there's a there's a there's a point right yeah there's a

point where like yeah yeah because it's there's like even that what he's talking about I like how he did it in numbers like how he did that but the reality is like that it's again cool to have the numbers but it's not they're not absolute numbers there's a lot of gray area in there so the idea is to take his tan and use almost like using part of his 10 for on top of your 7 because you're going to the same way but it's like how much of that 10 are you going to use if you're one you better be using nine you better you know master yeah you're going to be using a lot of his number you know but this is one of those things this is one of those things that I subconsciously learned from jiu-jitsu and I applied it all the time, especially in dealing with

relationships. I've talked about it here a million times of like, hey, don't attack the ego, don't attack the strong point, right? Yeah. That's just complete, just complete jihitsu mentality. That's what it is. Yeah. And it works. If you attack that strong point, Sun Tzu, Art of War, 2,500 years old, if you attack the heavily defended position, you're not going to win. If you go against a power of 10 and you've only got a power 7, you're not going to win. Not going to happen. Even if you use full power. Even if you use full power.

In fact, it's going to be worse for you, especially if the other guy knows he's going to use that seven. He's going to use that in addition to his 10. He's going to beat you with a 17 to zero. Yeah. And actually, that actually backs up or kind of refers back to your point where when you say can a level one beat a level 10. So a level, if they both know jujitsu or judo, then, you know, it's way, because he knows the same thing as you. But, you know, if you're nine, if you're better than the guy, a factor of nine, then, you know, your chances start to go up as a one. No doubt, no doubt about that.

But I think that's where people, they get jammed up where they're like, hey, what do, I thought size didn't matter in jujitsu. Oh, yeah, if everyone's doing jujitsu, of course size matters, just like condition's going to matter, just like how tall it matters, how strong it matters when you all know the jujitsu. Yeah. When you that's like a dude said the other day Um Jiu Jitsu is not important as important In the UFC as it was the guy that just beat Verdum Big tall badass guy from Russia

Calcalf or something Uh sorry bro uh he But he said hey it's not as important anymore And the fact that you're right you know why it's not as important because everybody knows it It's not as important if you go you roll in there without knowing any jiu jitzu You're gonna get Yeah You see how important

Yes, yeah, yeah, exactly. All right, back to the book. There's a popular parable that goes thus. A jiu-jitsuka, which means a jiu-jitsu practitioner, was grabbed by a sumo wrestler. At that point, the jih-jitsuca said, you're a sumo wrestler, yet you can't grab any tighter than that, angered the sumo wrestler attempted to adjust his grip.

As he did so, he loosened it slightly at that moment. The jiu-jitsuca quickly lowered his body and escaped from the sumo-o wrestler's grip. All right now There's another we're gonna talk about this theory Called Xiroko Shajen Katsiu and I apologize to everyone that speaks Japanese. I'm sorry Tim Ferriss. I'm sorry I should have waited for you to come and do this with me so you could correct me But here we here we go one's mental and physical energy must be used most efficient effectively in order to achieve a certain goal

That is to say one must apply the most effective method or technique for using the mind and body if we use the term syrioko for one's mental and physical energy this should be expressed syrioko xan katsuyo which means best use of one's energy we can shorten this simply to syrioku zeno which means maximum efficiency maximum efficiency This means that no matter what the goal, no matter what the goal, in order to achieve it, you must put your mental and physical energy to work in the most effective manner. This is like common sense, right? But how often are we wasting energy?

How often are we wasting energy? We're wasting energy all the time. Back to the book. When I was a child, I learned the jiu-jitsu of the past. However, that jiu-jitsu had no basic principle. I learned various methods from one teacher. He taught me how to place my hips and pull to throw an opponent and how to choke someone, but he did not teach me anything about what principles were involved or how to apply those principles. But that's I think that's the same that as Jiu Jitsu hit America, I think everyone was learning like that.

Like here's how you choke someone, but you weren't learning the system. As I studied further, I found that one one teacher taught differed from what another taught. There was no basis upon which to decide which one was correct. That was the reason I began to make a thorough study of Jiu-Jitsu. Now, what I would say about that is you don't need to decide which one is correct. Like when you learn an arm bar from one person, you learn an arm bar from someone else, you're going to learn good things from both of them. Neither one of them is correct.

And one of them might be correct in this situation or with this body style and the other one's correct in a different situation with a different body style. I think if we looked at Cano's Personality traits like he's a guy that's real orderly And I think that's yeah, he's a real guy like Jordan Peterson people would put him in the High conscientious and high High and orderly he's a very orderly person and so for him like there's a right answer and there's a wrong answer And I think you see that in judo and that's why judo is much more Disciplined

Highly disciplined like go to a judo competition and There are no yelling. It's good jih Tzu competition. It's mayhem. Yeah, yeah, right? And they've tried to tighten that up. Like, they try and make it less crazy. But they haven't succeeded.

Jiu Jitsu's crazy. Judo competitions are crazy. Judo competitions are not like that. Yeah. Bro, did you see, there's a clip, a judo clip on online, wherever I saw it, but it's a clip. So this guy wins, right? Real dramatic win.

Like, maybe he wasn't supposed to win, or I don't know. Maybe he's an upset. Maybe not, or maybe it was the finals. I don't know. But it was a real dramatic win. He wins. And he's like, you know how they yell and they'd be all all happy or what he did that and he kind of stood over the guy Just for a second like a split like pretty short DQ DQ yeah just like that so legit like man in jiu jihitsu

M.M and you see that all day. That's see that's that's the that's one of the reasons I wanted to talk about this is like that is a quality thing you know it's two and I guess this is different on the east coast or west coast The east coast like one of my buddies Joe he came and watched some wrestling with me some high school wrestling and they pan- they penalize people like oh no you're not allowed to do that like they're strict When you get done when you get done Wrestling you just got pinned you get up you get to the center of mat you put your hand out shake hands That's it yeah yeah complain to the ref there's another crap no you do this other crap no you do what you're supposed to do and that's awesome Because that you know what that teaches people teaches people how to control their emotions Yeah huh yeah I remember I'm pop Warner

You know my only frame of reference was watching football on TV NFL Do you just spiking the ball doing the ekey shuffle back of like that I like you know Ike you know like you woods anyway back of the day um and so you know we play pop-worn football my first year I knew that our coach was super disciplined like the kind where you had to everyone had to wear high white socks white shoes like it was real discipline and I'd see other teams and they different color shoes all this stuff that's all I knew though so it was clear you couldn't spike the ball you couldn't do any dance or whatever you give the ball to the rough that's that's it when you make a touchdown so we played this team that will remain

And they go they do you don't want to bring up the old rivalries. No, no, no, no, tell what's going to happen They make a actually actually was a team from out of town actually and They he spiked the ball little kid spike the ball and does the thing or whatever straight up flag It's a it's a penalty. Oh even actually even in colleges like that. Oh, right? I don't know Yeah, in college football is like that you can do you can do more for sure But yeah pop-winter anything if you do anything you you throw the ball you put your hands up for too long If you put your hands up for too long after you make a touchdown that's a penalty on a sportsman like condo That's legit right I think so especially as little kids I think so especially even as big kids

Yeah my dad used to say when you're when you're a professional This is what he said when you're a professional football player you can and you make a touchdown Something about like that's your job or whatever so yeah you you you have the right to be happy about it That was kind of but when I think about it now it's like shoot if you're professional you focus on your profession. You think so. I guess it's whatever your philosophy is. And you could say like UFC,

I mean, it's really cool. It's so much cooler when someone wins and they just are like, check. Yeah. Like Fador.

Fadour would just go out there and just destroy someone and then just come like, yeah, thanks, good match. Yeah, that is true. I know we all want to see the hype.

That's the thing. I don't want to see the guy and jump on top of the cage. I know that sells tickets and blah, blah, but there's nothing better than just a, cold-blooded killer that just comes out and and you know what's interesting is sometimes

fighters do it um i think i was watching cowboy seroni the other day like knocked some guy out and just walked away like it was nothing yeah yeah i do this every single day yeah yeah i was like yeah but but they don't show that clip or like mark hunt yeah yeah mark hunt just does us walk away knock out just knocks dude out just walks away like yes yeah can i get my piece of chicken now yeah i'm hungry yeah but the the reason that those are so cool like fador that's a great example by the way Where he's just no, he's not getting hyped up before the fight. He's not hyped up afterwards, you know, no emotion is this cold. That, that gets, that seems more appealing because it's in contrast to all the hype, all the hype, all this guy getting hyped up and whatever.

So if everyone was like that, it would be less. It would still would be cool. Yeah. But even then, I'm probably just comparing it to like how I know it now. You can't knock your hype when Connor McGregor gets pumped up. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly right. So, you know, there's a dichotomy.

Yeah, there's a dichotomy. I think the preferred method though is cold-blooded Yeah, but when you and this is really what it is and this goes for the NFL too Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's it's a show Gotta remember that it's a competition Yeah, it's a show exactly right so and that makes sense too for the NFL where Just go sit around and watch old fader or fight so you know Sakarava was kind of like that Sakaraba didn't celebrate

I love soccer Yeah, of course Yeah, Sakarabo is pretty cold-blooded too. Yeah totally cold-blooded Yeah, but just like you say and like Connor and like these guys who do put on a show that's kind of cool too you see what I'm saying so there's a little dichotomy there all right back to the book in the end I learned from various teachers in various schools but when one method of instruction differed from another I had difficulty determining how to resolve those differences

as I studied further I came up with the principles I've described in order to achieve your goals you must put your energy to use most effectively again I'm I'll just say that you don't have to choose like this one's right and this one's wrong you need to absorb both those methodologies and have them both in your toolkit because you might need them mm-hmm no say yeah kind of like having the metric ranch sockets and the you know oh yeah yeah and the other one then you got the other ones got need that yeah yeah the one the other one you come across a bolt that's metric yeah right you better be ready for that here's it here's

some stuff that's interesting calisthenics are generally based on physiology and so they do not result in the development of unbalanced body, nor are they harmful to the internal organs. But they are not without drawbacks. Because each individual movement has no meaning, and because calisthenics have no secondary benefits, they are uninteresting. Calisthenics are widely used in Japan and abroad, but few students continue to do them after graduating from school. This is because they are a meaningless form of exercise and not of any practical use, No matter how much they are taught in schools if people not continue to practice them there is very little value in teaching them

Cold-blooded it's beautiful blood it dig it So what should be done? We need to adopt the strong points of calisthenics and compensate for their shortcomings of course there are various possibilities but for now I've come up with these two ideas first the first is calisthenics that incorporate training for the defense of for the defense against attack so the first one's like You come up with calisthenics that represent movements that are from fighting, right? So like a classic is a sprawl, right? Sprawl, yeah, go do some sprawls. You want to get in good shape? Yeah, go do some sprawls.

Incorporate that. One of the workouts I used to do with my kids when they were little is they'd have to do five sprawls and max pull-ups every minute on the minute for five minutes, just five minutes. See how many pull-ups they could get. So you do five sprawls and you do as many pull-ups as you can to see how many... This is a brutal workout. Go try that one. Yeah.

You don't even need to be an eight-year-old kid. You can be a 46-year-old man. Go hit that for five minutes. Five sprawls, max pull-ups. Go. But it is a good workout for kids. Yeah, that's legit. But anyways, sprawls, that's an exercise where it reflects exactly the movement that you would do on the mat.

Now, here we go back to the book. My other idea could be called dance style. And I'm not going to get into what he talks about it. He's basically saying, like, hey, you come up with dance moves. That are fun that work your body and what I thought of immediately when I when I thought when I read that I was like thinking about all the all the I guess is B boys and break dancing the same thing be boys do break dancing so it's like judo and judoka So B boys okay break dancer so like the 10th planet guys a bunch of the 10th planet guys came from the break dancing background Yeah, and they have the physical attributes the flexibility the strength from that and it

turns out to be awesome for Jiu-Jitsu. Yeah. So there's a good, and you can find that with gymnastics people, too. Like gymnastics, here's a skill. But I guess his point is, in his mind, that's now fun somehow. See, in my mind, like, it's not fun. What, the breakdancing? Like, to me, doing a break dance move compared to doing a push-up.

Yeah, you'd rather do the push-up? Well, I mean, there's not a huge difference, right? Gotcha, yeah. Yeah, break-down is pretty fun. I used to do that when I was young. Did you have parachute pants? Yeah. Richie Martinez and Gio Martinez.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're the main guys. Yeah, well, they're badass jih Tzu guys and they're B-boys. Yeah, and that is what they attribute to their skills developing so quickly, so quickly. And when you think about it, man, it's absolutely true because you think of breakdancing moves, like how you can spin on your back and do it like all this stuff. Like to spin on your back, you know these guys who go inverted and do all this stuff. They do all this stuff where they have really good control of their like spatial awareness and their body. Yeah, you know, so these break dancing guys, they come in with level 10 of that, you know? And well, wrestlers obviously come in at a high level.

Anyone that's really good at gymnastics has that same kind of awareness and they have some crazy strength. Yeah, you know. So yeah, maybe that is a good thing for the for the judo players come up with some kind of a A dance. A dance. Well, what about Capoeira? Capoeira because Capoeira was was fighting disguised as dancing yes sir yeah you know it was it was the African slaves in Brazil yeah yeah and if you notice I know it's because they did a whole it's not a thesis what do you call it like a anyway thing in college but they you did a thing on on Capoeira on Capoeira yeah and so I don't want to go into a whole long thing but good if you go early Capoeira was only legs you know why because they a lot of the time they'd be Tied up hands behind their back so that yeah so they came up with this fighting system

dis disguised it as dancing and to use against their captors It's very interesting that is interesting B boys be boys Capuetta a couple of other guys Jeff Higgs went from jih Tzu to capuetta Fabio Fabio Santos our old teacher was like Higgs you're the only person that's ever gone from jiu jiu jitsu He kept training jiu jiu jitsu but he incorporated capuetta yeah even the which is smart right Carina does. Same thing?

I think he, no, no, I think he has that background. Most people would find Capoeira and go, oh, that seems cool. But then you get choked out, and you're like, I'm going to learn it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that goes through it. Man, you ever seen a, like a Capuetta, like a performance or whatever, man, there's this. It's gymnastics. It's, well, whatever you want to call it. It's like this, yeah, man, it's really impressive.

It's almost like he'll, and I'm referring to this guy that you said he'd put on a Capuetta show every Wednesday at this club I worked out in Hawaii. And so he'd do these, like, flips and, so. So he do these like flips and somersaults and stuff like that and it looks like, oh, he messed up that somersault. But that was part of the move. See what I'm saying? So he, instead of sticking the landing, he doesn't stick the landing. He rolls into the next move, you know?

So it's this big string of just real fluid movement. It's kind of captivating. I can see how that would benefit you. Okay. Noted. Yeah, yeah. Keep that in mind. All right.

Back to the book. There's no need to reject traditional form of exercise. Those who enjoy them should do them. doctrine is very simple highly recommend what is best without rejecting things of the past so I do not Particularly oppose Japan's conventional methods of physical education, but I would like to devise the best form of physical education Recommend as many people as possible take it up thus Resulting it in a form of physical education that at the same time achieves worthwhile goals That is cool, right? Like that's one of the coolest things about Jitu is you are getting in shape and you are learning how to choke

people out which is really beneficial thing and that for all the people that say well I want to start jiu jitsu but I need to get in shape first no you don't you just need to start jiu jitsu and you'll get in shape along the way back to the book the prosperity of a nation can be hoped for only with an energized populace that vitality and that vitality depends on the mental and physical training of the people the powerful nations of the world have explored every avenue in order to build their national strength and they are paying particular attention to physical education and endeavoring to promote vitality of their citizens through their own unique methods well that sounds good and it was true at one time

but in america right now we're getting pretty weak on physical education need to step it up step it up step it up you ever seen that video of the old school they did some experimental gym class somewhere in california and like the crazy obstacle courses like in the maybe the 40s or the 50s and they had crazy obstacle courses they had this and like every kid looked like a complete beast and you're like yeah why wouldn't you do that why wouldn't gym class at school be an hour long of hardcore physical putting out why would it not be that way

right yeah you know why because people go that that's insulting to my child because he's not a great athlete well your kid's not going to be a better athlete if they don't start training hard right so like what is it in the game yeah I agree so what is it though the kid the kid like okay we're gonna do pushups today right and you know Johnny did a hundred pushups meanwhile I can only do two so I feel bad that messes up my self-esteem I'm gonna start keeping you on the spot and you know what we're just gonna not do push-ups yeah in fact you know what we're gonna do for PE weave baskets basket weaving yeah but even isn't isn't the whole grading system I know we're going into a whole different thing but isn't the whole

grading system in school like that anyway hey Johnny over there got a yeah yeah well it is right now yeah but you know there's the universities for sure that have like well there's no grades here yeah because we don't this isn't about a grade yeah actually that's like no actually becoming you know what you know what makes my kids mad my kids will be like I got a I got a 96 on the math test and I'm like what was the class average or who beat you Did you lose to anyone? And they're like, well, the chest out.

Yeah, yeah. I don't know. If everyone got a 96, I don't care. You're average. I don't know. Maybe you should care. Maybe you should be impressed with the teacher. The teacher is so good at teaching that they,

when they test these kids, these kids score almost perfect on the material that they talk. Dang, that's one good teacher right there. Yeah, well, I'd be impressed with the teacher, but I wouldn't be impressed with my kid if they just got the same as everyone else. They need to step it up. What if they all got hundreds?

What if they all got hundreds? Okay, they got 100. Okay, like... Still not impressed. Well, it's a good job, but I'm not impressed. I'm impressed. 100? Perfect score on a test.

Credit. My what? My little daughter will come home. And she'll be like, Dad, I got a 94 on the math test. And I'll be like, which one did you miss? Yeah, yeah. And my wife will be like, tell her, she did her great job. I'm not going to lie to her.

Whatever. That is a good job. All right. Okay, cool. We'll leave it at that. You know what's funny is I know you're really not like that because I see I see you tough. You know what's funny is I do say that to my kids. Yeah, with this joking tone. It is fun. Yeah, like you're like at our put the one we're at my house the pool. Everyone's jumping in the pool doing their dives. Yeah. And you're like it's like joking jaco. You can totally tell. You're like good dive, but I want to see improvement in this area. And this is like over it's good. I see what you're doing that. Yeah, we got to have fun with it. Sure. Back to the book. Intellectual training involves both the acquisition of knowledge and the cultivation of mental power.

And whereas one cannot discuss these entirely as entirely separate things, it is nevertheless true that people with a great deal of knowledge do not necessarily have exceptional powers of reasoning or judgment. That's important. just because you went to some course doesn't mean that you know doesn't mean you have good judgment so you can have people that are well read well educated but they don't have any common sense that's that's what that's how I translate this thing here the cultivation of these powers does not in itself entail becoming knowledgeable so in fact these two things can be looked at separately so there's a big difference between you know having information and having I guess we'd say wisdom what he call it reasoning and judgment mm-hmm I'd call reasoning and judgment

combined together I'd call that wisdom makes sense and now he talks about moral education back to the book in one respect moral education must be carried out from the aspect of knowledge that is to say it is necessary to know intellectually what is good and what is evil is also necessary to develop the intelligence to distinguish right from wrong in various complex situations. Thus, it is necessary to teach the ability to determine good from bad, to discriminate what is right from what is wrong. This is something that I think we're getting away from. Like, hey, you know what? That's actually wrong. Like the whole idea you've, you've,

you hear people and I think it's I think they wrap this around a political conversation or a political viewpoint of there's some people that say like no, evil actually exists. And, and, and, Some people just say well no people are different and people are raised differently and all that I'm I'm one of the people that like I believe evil exists and and and And I think you can teach and you have to teach people how to tell the difference between right and wrong Yeah, there's some things that are wrong. Yeah, there's some things in the world that are wrong. Yeah, and you shouldn't do them Strangely, I was talking to Jade pretty in-depth about that idea And how it applies to a bunch of things where Even saying okay things are right and things are right and things

are wrong that's that's like one way of you know what the okay so these people that that say well people are different there's no real absolute right or wrong the thing is there they have a point with that but here's the thing they're not talking about the same thing you're talking about well like that we have a societal standard so and see it got super complex so obviously it's not the time but think about this let's say a fat person right they're fat everyone can see that they're fat they know they're fat kind of thing Right and

Some people would say it's wrong to indicate or to point out that that person's fat in front of people Even though the fact is that they are okay, right or wrong to point that out It's rude, it's rude, exactly right, so is it right to be rude? Is it right or wrong? Total scenario dependent thing, who's the person, what's the situation, right? So the point is yeah, the point is there's a societal standard and usually it's established and Just like beating your kids in certain societies is right in certain societies is wrong. So sure the more extreme the behavior the easier it is to discern okay, that's wrong. With all that I think there's a there's a line. Yeah, that I think is and it can call. Yeah, and it goes all the way down to like almost like a human like understanding of of like basic human needs. And Sam Harris, he'll say he talks about suffering like suffering and well-being. That's the two things if something promotes or or advocate suffering for like no reason why you know he goes into it then that's how you can discern good and evil

Okay so but at the end of the day it goes down to a standard like a specific standard Yeah Yeah, but I what I'm I guess you're saying the same thing I'm saying yeah, which is like you need to teach people and and Explain what the value system is to you to people back to the book in another sense moral education must be carried out from the aspect of the emotions. Even if you can distinguish right from wrong, intellectually, if you are not trained emotionally to like what is good and dislike what is evil, your ability to do good and reject evil will be lacking.

So, if morals are not cultivated both intellectually and emotionally, good results cannot be achieved. This is big stuff. Yeah. This is heavy stuff. back to the book furthermore even if you do try to do good and reject evil if your willpower is weak the opposite result will often occur therefore training of the will must also be an element of moral education a weak willpower can result in the inability to do what you know is right

or the inability to prevent doing what you know is wrong boom this is very important stuff a weak willpower will you'll allow bad things to happen you know choosing the short-term payoff over the long another good example back to the book it is also important not to look the over not to overlook the element of habit even if you intend to do good if you have not developed the habit of doing so your best intentions will easily be And even the best intentions of rejecting evil can fail if you have not developed the habit of doing so For that reason you must endeavor to cultivate good habits

Love what is good and reject what is evil on a daily basis. You know what this supports this supports That whole you know when I talk about the fact that like if you make good decisions like if you wake up early that goes that's a habit and that helps you that strengthens your ability to reject weak Whereas if you sleep in you're lazy you hit the snooze button your double fist and donuts into your mouth Guess what you're gonna be weak then I'll tell you something else and I've been talking about this Or I've been thinking about this I've been talking about a little bit I've been thinking about this The way the the way that you live every little thing that you do like those actions that you take on a daily basis That's who you are and if you don't train correctly if you don't live correctly, When the moment of truth comes,

you won't be able to execute correctly. Yeah. The way you, it's like, it's a classic, the way you train, the way you train is how you fight, right? If you don't train hard, you're not gonna fight hard. Yeah. If you push yourself mentally, when the time comes, you'll be able to push yourself, you'll be able to push yourself mentally.

If you're weak in training, you'll be weak in war. That's the way it is. Yeah, that was very well put, sir. We were, I was talking to you last night, like I said, and that's what we were talking about too. That's what I brought up because he was really excited about learning all these new things about calculus and all this stuff, right? Because he's into AI, artificial machine learning and whatnot. So I was like, okay, you know, you're really excited about learning this stuff, which is good, by the way.

And we're just, I wasn't necessarily talking about him, but I just used him as the example. So I was like, okay, so what is, what is it? Like you're, so are you applying this to like your work now or your life or whatever or you just fired up about learning it? So it's like you can learn about Everything in the whole wide universe, right? But if you don't put it into action whatever It's like your habits like what you do that because that's who you are You have like let's say you're you I don't know you have like well actually I think you're saying something different

I know what you're saying and what you're saying is absolutely true too I'm saying little I'm saying little the little things matter is what I'm saying the way you live is the way you live is what I'm saying yeah. Okay, yeah, okay, yeah What you're saying is also important. Like, hey, you got this? What are you going to do with it? Yeah, yeah. That's what you're saying?

And that also is important. Like, okay, well, you worked for this, but now what are you going to do with it? You got this gift. What are you going to do with this gift? You got this talent. What are you going to do with this talent? You got this education. What are you going to do with this education?

Those are also important. Yeah. And what I'm saying is, if you don't develop the habit of putting things into place and being efficient and working hard, you can take those gifts, those talents and that education. you can piss it away. That's what I'm saying. If you're used to taking the easy road, you get that knowledge, you don't do anything with it. So live your life with intent.

That's what I'm saying. Every day, every little decision you make matters. It matters. It matters what you do. Expanding this out a little bit back to the book, if each member of a group helps others and acts selflessly, the group can be harmonious and act as one. Accordingly, the group can make the best use of its energy just like an individual. This principle remains true even in the case of a complex society with a population of millions.

You help each other out. This is very, this is what, this is like a seal team, right? This is like a seal platoon. You help each other, you support each other. That's what makes you good. That's what makes you good. Here's another one. Let's say someone draws a sword on you.

This is getting back in training a little. Let's say someone draws a sword on you. any hesitations in your actions will result in you being injured or killed you must react automatically instinctively just as when you blink impulsively when a fly approaches your eye you must dodge your attack or an instant in order to do this you must practice this as physical education and train on a regular basis to build up your body while also undergoing martial arts training so i like this idea of a fly getting in your eye right the fly doesn't hit your eye you blink That's what happens you have the instinct and what's cool I see this with extreme ownership

When people first hear about the concept like it's foreign to them Utah you've talked about this how once you started thinking about it you'd see like any excuse that someone makes You're like oh man this guy's not taking ownership. That's just an excuse and then you see it in yourself And when that becomes your instinct because you're living that way well then it's very easy to spot it's also easier to maintain Yeah, that's why the little things matter Echo yes sir Back to the book Judo began with the study of martial arts and then it gradually became clear that it could be applied to physical education

intellectual training moral education social engagement management and people's everyday lives some people believe that judo means simply practicing at the dojo This is applying the principle of judo at the dojo When practicing defense against attack and though it certainly is one aspect of judo is only a small part of it With judo in every endeavor you must imagine the best goal and use your mental and physical energy the most effective manner in order to accomplish that goal for that reason judo is not merely a martial art but rather the basic principle of human behavior It is wrong to assume judo ends in the dojo So he's saying apply this everywhere I'm saying you should do that you can do it with Jiu Jitsu now we're going back into this

Syrioko Zenio certain teachings have a long tradition so most people accept them but when people do not understand why they are taught a certain way conflicts can sometimes arrive arise to give example virtually no one doubts that diligence is a good thing right no one doubts that diligence is a good thing if diligence is always a good thing it follows that there can be no situation in which being diligent is bad but if you are diligent in an irresponsible manner you will spend a great deal of effort on something that is not very useful and expend the energy required to do something good wastefully. You must carefully choose something for which diligence is suited.

Even when we do what we believe to be best overdoing something can be harmful. When students stay up late reading a book because their teacher's parents or society has deemed it best that they should read it, this is certainly diligence, but is also detrimental to their health to read for so long. Conversely, you cannot do things half-heartedly or randomly. So you got to stay balanced. Let us turn to the into an annoying yet pervasive habit people all too often display complaining What is the point of complaining? It is certainly no fun for those who have to listen to the complaints the energy used to make an unpleasant complaints can certainly not be considered

Syrioku Xenio rather all the energy used to complain or grumble should be expended more usefully. This means ridding oneself of unpleasant feelings and refraining from harboring ill will towards others. In the end, this will result in putting one's energy to the best use not only for oneself, but also for the betterment of society. This principle should be applied every day at all times.

Don't waste your energy on stuff that doesn't matter. Back to the book, if people are always aware of their current situation and set a standard for their future based on doing what will benefit themselves in society and continually regulate their behavior, they can be satisfied with their lives at all times. When you try to do this, you will find that your future prospects are always bright. That is because you're doing what is best.

How common sense is this, right? And it's so common sense, but how many people do you know that follow this path? That's the question. Yeah, that goes back to how you say that idea of being detached. When you're detached, it's common sense. Yeah. But when you're in the game, it's not common sense because of how you,

just like how that said, how you feel. Like, you know, like even complaining, for example. Like, you could ask, I don't say literally everyone, but you could ask everyone and be like, hey, complaining, is that useful? Is that good to do? Is that fine to do?

No one thinks so. Right. Yes or no. Everyone's, oh, no, no, no. Why does everyone complain then? Because when you're in the game, complaining, if you can feel better or whatever. You picked up on it very well because it says if people are always aware of their current situation

Meaning they need to be detached and then set a standard for the future based on doing things that just think it's the same thing Think is it smart to do things that will benefit themselves and society Continuate continually regulate your behavior so that you're satisfied with your life and all that of course That makes sense sure why don't we do it We get off the path we get on the slippery slope We start losing our awareness of our, what is it, current state? Well, how do you put it?

Current situation. Current situation. I don't understand it. Yeah. This is interesting. Through judo, we are teaching a principle that can work together with the highest principles of Buddhism and Christianity and the exhaustive studies of philosophers.

One, which, like other great philosophies and religions, can be put into action. This principle of judo offers a basic principle that can provide a sound, answer for every situation and every question. The easiest way to master this basic principle is to practice the waza of judo and to embark on the dough, the way. That is because through practice, that incorporates both a martial art and physical education, one can learn a method for making the most effective use of one's mental and physical energy. Then one naturally learns how to apply this method to every aspect of human affairs.

I believe that this basic principle is the most appropriate method for. Resolving various moral issues. Man, he puts a lot of weight on the judo. I remember a lot of weight on the judo. Judo is life. Yeah. With regard to our daily activities and social interaction, the teaching of Syrioko Zeno means bringing about maximum results through the use of every sort of energy.

For this reason, human faults like anger, for example, violate this principle. Being angry consumes mental energy. How does anger benefit you or anyone else? The result of anger are invariably a depletion of mental energy and being looked down on or disliked by others. By following the principle of Syriokudzeno, people will not be able to get angry. Being disappointed or troubled by failures or setbacks or harboring grievances are also ways in which mental energy is consumed. Arguments, fights. all of these are violations of Syrioko Zeno.

Those who practice judo must take great care to follow this teaching. No matter what the situation, there is only one path that people must follow. In every case, the only course is to consider what is the right thing to do and proceed in that direction. What is the right thing to do and do that? What is the right thing to do and do that?

That's what you should do. Regardless of how you feel. Yes. I have coined a phrase that I regularly say to people, there is only one path in life. Conducting yourself in accordance with this principle on a daily basis is vitally important. Though human beings may reach the pinnacle of success, there is only one path down which to proceed. That is to say, because complacency gives rise to the cause of failure, you must always consider

things carefully until you find the appropriate course of action and proceed that way. Even when you fail there's only one path down which to proceed Even if once you fail and lose heart if you regain your courage and find your way along the highest path The highest path circumstances will gradually improve that's like Jordan Peterson talking right hey, you know like Get on do the right thing pick a little thing and start proving that thing clean your room Because they find their own paths those who practice judo and who follow the principle of Syrioku Zen you always have a calm spirit enjoy life and are enterprising the most advanced mental life can only be achieved when people thoroughly absorb this principle

Sirioku Zen you maximum efficiency what are you doing that is taking away your energy what are you wasting your energy on back to the book a true a person's true value is determined by how much he or she contributes to society during his his or her life and because these very contributions enable those who strive to protect themselves to achieve this the purpose of judo is to perfect yourself so that you can contribute to society This applies to ordinary people as well again. This is very very similar to what Jordan Peterson talks about You're like you you need to if you if you fix your world well you're impacting everyone's world around you This applies to ordinary people as well but in particular those who specialize in judo

must be expected to act in a way consistent with the purposes of judo. When you practice judo, you must try to perfect yourself and contribute to society through this practice, and you must emphasize the importance of this during your teachings to others. Something that seems good because it is near at hand may be useless in the future, whereas in some cases a bit of patience is highly effective in furthering your lot in the future, right? Delayed gratification. The basis of happiness and love. life is found not in the pursuit of material gains or temporary pleasure and true kindness

towards one's friends means giving them serious advice when needed selflessly without fear of offending them now that one's interesting because I deal with this one a lot right I deal this with a lot because you got your your subordinate that's not doing what they're supposed to do and I just was having this conversation with a group I was working with And they were real big on the word transparency of Laif and I talked about it on the podcast and And if here's the question like I'm gonna be transparent with you like like hey echo Your videos you know they're not good right now like your videos aren't good you need to tighten up your videos Like does that make does that improve our relationship? Does that make you want to do a good job for me? Does that make you want to like get out there and really crush it? No not

at all so even though I'm being transparent doesn't help our situation does it help what we're trying to do no it doesn't so I need to figure out a way to tell you something and normally the best way to do that and here's a big hint for everyone that's out there if you want to give someone critique that they know that you know they need one of the best ways to give them critique is to take ownership of it take ownership of the problem so I say echo So hey, I feel like I'm not really giving you good guidance on the videos and the way they're coming out. I want to sit down and talk to you and actually go through like what the impact that we're trying to have and that I want to have. And I mean, I know you're working hard, but I feel like I'm not giving you good enough guidance.

So I want to sit down with you and try and see if I can be more clear. Right. Does that offend you? No. Well, I know what you're doing now. But yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, no, I get it. Yeah, you're right.

So you take if you take ownership of the problem and then you talk about the problem with the person It puts it doesn't it makes it makes them not have a defensive posture Which is what you Which is what you want you want don't want them to have a defensive posture I actually want to have them have an open mind and be able to listen what I say They won't listen if you're pointing the finger at them Yeah, they won't listen as well They might listen for a little while yeah, but it won't be a lasting thing maybe years later maybe or something

Yeah, it won't help the relationship. We know that for sure. You must remember that the purpose of expending a great deal of effort to build a strong body is to enable you to undertake jobs that you might otherwise be unable to endure. So what he's talking about? He's talking about he basically goes on this whole thing about like being big and buff. Sure. He's not pro.

He's not down for that. He's not down for the cause like Echo Charles is. He would look at you and think you're wasting too much time on your, on your bicep curls. Yeah. Might be right Yeah, so that's what he's saying Is that he's all about the functional strength You want to be strong so that you can do jobs that you might not be able to endure if you didn't work hard

You didn't work out hard Hey That's a balancing act too by the way I know you're gonna defend the biceps over here Maybe not the curls, but But you know how like this is even like like kind of like It's a bad example but you know he said You want to save your energy essentially

for jobs that are like important right no no he says the reason that you're trying to get strong isn't so you can look big and buff it's so that you can do jobs you can endure jobs that you wouldn't have been able to end up okay got you so that that should be the focus of your training functional strength that's what he's are he's down with the functional strength there's this guy in youtube super funny bro science i think i told this deep bro science life or something yeah that guy bro science so funny and he's talking about functional strength he's he said you know his jokes or whatever. And he's like, yeah, so good luck.

You can compare your functional strength with my actual strength. So funny. But in his mind, actual strength was like, how much you can bitch? And, you know, it's funny. But yeah, that's so now every time I hear, like, when a guy starts, like, heavily advocating functional strength over, like some weightlifter guy or whatever, I think about that.

That's, even though I'm sure this book came out a lot, you know, earlier than pro-science life. But, you know, check. All right, back to the book. Some who practice judo become overconfident of their health and inevitably fail to look after themselves. We must not be careless about where we live, our clothing, or our hygiene. We should pay great attention to what we eat and drink. There was a time when people did not deem it a problem to eat and drink to excess, but rather we're proud of a prolific, a proud of being a prolific eater.

or a heavy drinker. That way of thinking still persists and is obviously detrimental to health. If you do not take care in regard to matters of health, there is no benefit in practicing judo. Those who practice judo must not only keep this in mind, but must also consider it their duty

to remind others. That's bold right there. Their duty to remind others. I have a star next to that. Little Esther. This guy is, again, this guy is like super orderly. Yeah, and he's, you know, just gonna tighten people up. You know, he's out there going, don't eat that donut.

Yeah, well, that's one thing. But to the nth degree. Yeah, that's your duty? Come on, bro. Yeah. You know, it's my duty. I'm gonna go, you know, I'm gonna go to the mall and by the food court. You know what's funny is this is the only thing in the whole book that he says, like, judo won't help.

Like, if you, if you're not healthy, judo's not, you don't even train. Just stop training. He has a thing. He has a thing. That's what I think. He doesn't like that. Yeah. Yeah.

He's, what's that called a, like a hang-up? Yeah, or a pet peeve or something. Yeah, yeah, this is hang-up right there. Because judo derives from

the martial arts of the past, it must perpetuate the spirit of other martial arts. Loyalty, faith, honor, and various other virtues were emphasized in the martial arts of the past, but I keenly feel

their importance even today. The deterioration of society's morals today is primarily the result of a family. to emphasize these virtues. So I believe that those who practice judo in particular must apply themselves to these matters and restore today's neglected public morals. He's got another little hang up.

Well, it's not even a hang up. He's, but I mean, obviously I'm pointing this out because we could clearly look at society today and be like, yeah, well, guess what? We're on a slippery slope. Yeah. Yeah, you can tell you feel strongly about that one though right there. Who me or him? No, him. Oh, yeah.

What about me? Yeah, the look on your face indicated that for sure. Yeah. You know, that's a whole other thing. It's weird because you go around different pockets of the world and different pockets of the country and you see various positions on the slippery slope. Some people hanging on. Yeah.

But some people are not and they're just slipping. And we got to be careful. Yeah, and you get, and obviously that's a whole other topic, but the, you know, and you have all, So many huge major, major forces kind of working against it, you know, pushing us to down the slippery slope like marketing, right? You know how like marketing most marketing is to appeal to your most like immediate of wants, you know, like this delicious double whatever, you know? And it's the girl that's showing the delicious burger is like. Yeah. And guess what?

Doesn't even cost that much. Dang. You know, so gratification for cheap. Yeah, man. So you can get it. A little sex thrown on top of that burger. Just to make you feel good, you know, whatever. You know, and that's everything.

So, you know, again, if you're not, what is it, conscious of your situation or whatever, you might slip a little bit more. I was thinking about this today's, like, is, like, I think people lose concentration of this because most people, in my opinion, most people are like, they kind of know. You know, like we go back to the theory

of right and wrong and what's right. I think most people are pretty good with it. Like, most people feel pretty like, they know what's bad. Hey, like, no, that's wrong. Right and they know that hey you know what that's a good thing to do right? I think most people kind of Like broadly kind of would agree with those things Yeah, the problem is and so that's why I think we don't emphasize as much because we think you know what my hey man most people pretty much agree with me

Like it's like the center people of the country right now like and the extreme right now the extreme left no okay, where are you at? It's like okay, well those people that are in the middle It's like yeah we we kind of figure like okay pretty much and so what happens is when we don't talk about it as much, well, then the people that are on the fringes mentally, they end up without a compass, right? They just don't even know what's right and what's wrong anymore. Because people aren't talking about as much because it doesn't seem like we need to. I think we might need to. Yeah.

Yeah, and why it's right. Then it comes down to your approach and like all this stuff. Because, you know, when you have opposing views, it's like, if you don't do it with the right approach, you just, it becomes more about the fight more so than, you know, the kind of, so yeah. I think you're right about that. I think are, and are you talking about people, most people know right and wrong?

Because there's a difference between like, just like how you were saying, where people know right and wrong, but they don't always do what's right kind of thing. Totally. So is that what you're talking about? Like when most people know right and wrong? I'm saying, I'm saying,

if you don't teach a kid, like, hey, when you see someone that needs help, you go help them. Yeah. Right? Like little old lady crossing the street. Right right that seems obvious little old lady across the street. She's got a grocery bag You you go okay hey can I help you with that grocery bag and you know help you put it in your car

Maybe for you you get a little pump while you're at it with that grocery bag. Hope she has a bunch yeah So like that's that seems like a real common-sense thing to do and that's like the most Basic example I can think of off the top of my head like okay so that that would be a good thing to train A kid to do hey if you see someone that needs some help you give him some help yeah Especially an elderly person that's having some trouble. That's what you do. Yeah. Seems real obvious, but what I'm saying it and and I think even I think most people Most kids would be like oh yeah, they'd see that and they would tend to go okay. I'll help out But because most people would tend to do that we think we don't need to teach him

And that's where we're losing it like because the people on the fringes They're not helping that person. There's someone on the fringe that's gonna like oh they drop their bag and we'll steal it from them. Yeah, right? So that's where we end up with a problem. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. And that's why these things probably need to come up as part of a conversation, as like a national or universal conversations to be had. Like, okay, what is right and wrong?

Who's given those guidances now? Yeah. Where are they coming from? People aren't, people aren't reading the Bible anymore to look for their guidance. They're not following Buddhism to get their guidance from, right? They're just kind of going around. Yeah. So where's that coming from?

Yeah, that's true. They're going around. They're seeing like, okay, they're looking around me. Like, okay, what are we doing? How are we doing this? Is this wrong now to do this? And what are they looking at to measure, to establish that from?

You know what they're looking at? Instagram. Yeah, whatever's around them. Yeah, whatever's around them. But Instagram's around them. YouTube's around them. That's what's around them. And they're looking at it going,

okay, well, this is, you know, that seems like, that's what we're doing. All right, cool. That's what we're doing. Yeah. It's okay to soccer punch this, you know, this old dude. Yeah, yeah.

You know, and I feel a little uncomfortable about it, but you know what, it seems normal. Yeah, people are doing it. It's fun, yeah. Guys were laughing. It got a lot of views. Got a lot of views. Yeah, so maybe that's what's cool.

Yeah, that's what we need to watch out for. Yeah, and obviously I know that's an extreme case, but really that that's true where especially, okay, in these extreme cases will happen, by the way, if you don't have any other presence of influence. For sure. You know how, like, I was kind of saying this. I thought it made sense where, okay, your kids or whatever,

they're going to learn how to behave, whether they learn it from you or your neighbor or TV or the guy at the club or the guy at the park, whatever. That part is up to you. Like, if you don't want to be there, they're going to learn it from somebody else kind of thing. So that idea where, okay, what are we, you know, this is a society.

Like, okay, what are we doing now? How are we doing this? What's right? What's wrong? Is this wrong now, whatever? We're going to get that. Just like how you said, like we're looking around. We're trying to see what up.

You know and if there's no specific thing saying or court not quote necessarily a course Yeah even though course would be cool Um if there's nothing present there to demonstrate it then they're gonna be like all right well What is here to demonstrate it and what I'm saying is we've gotten away from things that in the past would have guided us yeah Yeah, this somewhat and where you'd had this sort of Sort of fundamental universal understanding like thou shalt not kill right? Right? Well, okay. That's a biblical thing and well, you know, maybe when a kid is 15 years old and he's feeling angry about something and he's thinking you know what? I play a

video game all day where I shoot like people in this video game and that makes me feel better Well, maybe it made me feel better to go out and do that in a school Yeah, right? That's that's what happens. Yeah so if we don't have if we don't lay out these things for people and Even though most people don't need them, there's some people that need them. That's my point is that we've gotten to a point where we think, you know what,

pretty much everyone kind of gets it. And if everyone kind of gets it, I don't need to emphasize it that much. Yeah. And so I'm not going to emphasize it. Well, there's some people that need it. Yeah, and even if you don't quote unquote need it, it's kind of like exercising, you know?

Yeah. I have in great shape. I don't got exercise. Well, yet you kind of do, you know? Yeah. It's interesting times. This is interesting. Speaking of interesting.

instructive talks on morals presented in the classroom often become abstract or involved stories of people from the distant past so they're not likely to inspire the listener. But moral lessons that can be acquired through judo's randori are based on facts and are much more likely to make an impression. And it can be said that the habit of observation, the ability to make decisions quickly and the ability to remain calm and resolutely. as a loot that are cultivated through fighting are also valuable outcomes of the practice of judo. These abilities, however, will not be developed merely by doing Cata and Randori training without any thought. These abilities will naturally develop when one takes care and thought in practicing them on a daily basis.

So this is something very interesting thing about. So I thought that was great. Like, hey, you learn about some, you know, you read the Bible. You know, it's like, oh, that doesn't really make sense to me. It's some guy that lived thousands of years ago and well, I don't really get that. I don't really get why I should be humble because it says you should be humble. Well, get on the mat. Now you get humbled and you feel you get humbled, right? So there's that's that's like the perfect example of how, hey, what you learn on the mat is is truly understood. But if you don't get if no one if no if you don't think about the fact that hey, that reflects life too by the way. That reflects life by the way if no one makes that connection for. You that's problematic and I mean clearly Jiu Jitsu this is a big difference between Jiu Jitsu and judo We talked about what the competitions are like you talk about how you get disqualified

Jiu Jitsu you have people in Jiu Jitsu that have bad attitudes right they don't they don't apply what they learn in jiu jitsu One of the things that you know my attitude always is with jiu jitsu is like if I get if I beat someone in jiu jiu jitsu if you understand jujitsu if you beat someone in jiu jiu jitsu you read That doesn't make you a better person than the person that you beat what it means is you've trained more than them That's what it means or it means you caught him that time means you got lucky with a move it means they made a mistake and you had trained enough to be able to capitalize on it It doesn't mean you're a better human being than they are And there there are people in jih Tutsu that think oh I am a better human being than that person is because I tapped them out It's like actually no not true at all Yeah so if you're not connecting these bigger broader lessons and connecting Jujitsu

Jitsu to life Then what you have is just just this isolated sport Which dev which is a which is a it's not even a sport. It's an it's an isolated Might makes right attitude on the mat which is not a good thing. Yeah, it's not a good thing at all Jiu Jitsu should be making you humble because you should recognize like oh yeah well I've been training longer than this guy and that's why I can beat him and One day if they keep training more than me they'll be able to beat me So hopefully I'll keep training and we'll have a relationship and we'll be able to support each other and that's the attitude Yeah, so I think that's one of the things where you know you've got in my mind you've got judo on one side

Which is you know really strict and controlled and And less evolutionary because it doesn't evolve as much and you have jihitsu on the other hand which is wildly evolutionary It's incredibly creative like there's there's less creative creativity in judo there's way more creativity in jiu jitsu and I think in the middle especially on the attitude part is where jiu jitsu now is like you need like you go to a jih Tzu competition like little kids that are they have their bad sports right They're bad sports they did not learn sportsmanship and that's an important thing because what does

sportsmanship mean sportsmanship doesn't just mean like you're a good sport on the mat No it means that in life you can handle getting beaten and you're gonna get back up and And you're gonna have a good attitude. That's what sportsmanship is. That's why you're trying to teach that to your kids Yeah, right? And there's a million little things like that in jiu jitsu that you learn Like just the hard training. Well you you you know what in jiu jitsu? Sometimes you work hard and you still get beat Yeah, that's the way life is. Yes sir. That's the way life is you work hard you give everything you got you're still gonna get beat Well guess what do you learn from that you learn about life from that? You know the creativity part if you're stuck in a box on something.

And he talked about that earlier. Like, oh, yeah. When he's talking about there's only one path. Again, I talk about him as being a very, I won't see not creative, but he's got an orderly brain, right? Because I never look at something that there's one path.

Yeah. Like, and by the way, if I fail in business, he's like, hey, there's only one path. No, if I fail in business, I'm actually going to look and see like, what, okay, what other path could I take? Yeah. Now, he's talking about the path.

Like, I'm not saying, oh, no, the hell with discipline. And I'm just going to do whatever I want. So he's saying stay on that path. And that makes sense. But there is a certain lack of creativity there. Like, okay, well, if I make a mistake, I'm going to assess. And I'm going to see what I can do differently.

And again, I'm not arguing that that's that he was saying, no, don't ever try anything else. But that is an important piece that you learn from jihitsu. Like, oh, if I can't pass the guard, this person's guard this particular way, I need to take a different approach. You learn that from jihitsu and you can apply it to life. So all these lessons that if you don't. Pay attention to what you're learning in Jiu-Jitsu and you don't reflect on it and put it back on your life Well, then all you're learning is how to fight people and beat them up Well, then Jiu-jitsu is not doing what it should it's not doing what it could be doing for you

Yeah, okay. So you need to be careful of that. Yeah, I think his thing his one path is is is this really broad in general kind of Dura it's more of a direction yeah, it is it is and I that's a bad example for me to use But at the same time I want to make sure people aren't like well, you know, I'm gonna stay on the path I'm gonna stay the course I'm gonna stay the course I'm gonna stay the course you know what we failed that time but it's okay I'm gonna stay the course I'm to keep going no no no no assess see what you can do differently all right Effective use of mental and physical energy again. He's he's talking about this Seciro zeno An integral which is integral to the teachings of judo competition can be applied to many aspects of life Those who practice judo must measure their behavior by this principle on a daily basis and make corrections when appropriate

If you actually apply this standard to every aspect your life from food clothing and shelter to your work and relationships you'll find that you often have to correct your own mistakes those who do this will make progress day by day in advance in life those who fail to do so will never progress and in many cases will regress so keep an eye on those little things with regard to memory in the early stages of practices of judo you must do what you have been taught in order to do this you must remember things as well as practice progresses you must you must remember not only what you have been taught but also what you have

observed so there are many situations in which memory is vital you will develop that ability naturally to come up with ways to remember things he's talking about some of the the benefits of learning judo so one of those you learn to remember things next we come to the area of imagination this is not particularly necessary during the early stages of the practice of judo but becomes quite necessary later you may experience experiment with various outcomes carefully anticipating how your opponent will react but if there is a limit to the ideas you can come up with and if the range is narrow no good ideas will come to you no matter how much time passes On the other hand if you come up with a variety of ideas one after another and if your thoughts extend to things quite different from your original idea

You can come up with a perfect solution among those ideas so he talks about creativity and this is interesting next comes language This is very important to the practice of judo the reason is it is the reason is the reason is that in Randori as well as in kata if you try and explain a particular method in words unless you explain it exceptionally logically and clearly your listener will not understand what you mean there are some things that can be demonstrated in detail using kata while others do not lend themselves to this method in some cases you must explain things in writing or verbally when teaching whether you demonstrate things through kata only or by giving a verbal explanation

while demonstrating the kata makes a big difference to the listener this is a truism when you ask something when you ask someone about something you do not understand or discuss something in depth it is highly beneficial if you can talk about it clearly thus it is so in the practice of judo take care take care to discuss things logically and clearly so even he talks about the importance of being able to express yourself and having good command of the language It applies to judo Is that reaching? Maybe a little bit

But we'll give it to him I'm gonna give it to him Yeah, no yeah The way I see it is like you know What is the laws of combat simple? Yeah That's what I heard Simple clear concise yeah for sure

Yeah you're right Good call I like it Next I would like to discuss The need for broad-mindedness Broad-mindedness Means open to new ideas As well as the ability

To organize various kinds of ideas at the same time without mixing them up. The reason this is important to the practice of judo is that when there is no broad-mindedness, people often become overly confident in their own beliefs such that if there are new ideas that are superior, not only do they not accept these new ideas, but in doing so they fail to determine their value

and whether they are good or bad. This is something you see all the time with people with ego. They close mind. They don't listen to anybody else. They don't come up with any new ideas. It's horrible. So keep an open mind My way or the highway

Yeah or is that a different thing You don't want none of that My way or the highway yeah Speaking of simple The theory of judo fighting includes some quite Complicated ideas when we consider The relationship between the body and the four limbs Their positions how to use them

How to handle the mental aspects One theory gets mixed up with many others So it becomes difficult to reach an overall conclusion Even if we link These complicated theories To look at them separately the ability to unify them in the end must be the second requirement for broad-mindedness.

You can't be able to connect things. You've got to be able to simplify things. This is interesting. There is a teaching in judo competition that says one must look at the relationship between oneself and others and one's surroundings. So you have to orient, this is Oudaloupe.

Yeah, this is Oudaloo, so you have to orient yourself to what's happening. You have to look around and see what's going on. Another one in judo fighting there is a teaching Sakhi-o-tore which means anticipate simply put this means using your waza on your opponent before he can use his waza on you Boom be aggressive default aggressive don't wait for the enemy to do something you do it first There is another teaching in judo fighting Dukuro donko and this translates to decisive action after careful consideration

Dukiro means carefully considering the situation before attempting to use a waza Donko means acting without delay once you have made a decision When this teaching is applied to the path people take in life It can indeed be relevant in many situations. This is a good one What you consider what you're gonna do but then once you make a decision you go yeah you go full speed You go full speed you always reassess you always keep your mind open even when I'm like I made a decision you go you go full speed you always reassess You always keep your mind open even when I'm like I made a decision Like hey, oh, you know what, we've debated this enough, let's go.

Even when I say that and I mean it, I'm still just making sure. I always make sure. I'm always reassessing. Yeah. And they're run to my death. It seems like he's more talking about like don't, don't make a decision, go and then hesitate the whole time. That's definitely true. And also don't sit there and wait to make a decision.

You know, make a decision. But this is what's interesting. Here's a contra. Back to the book, a further teaching, which seems to be somewhat contradictory to Donko is known as Tomaru Tokoro, Tokoro. Oshider and that translates no when to stop this means that when you venture to use a waza up to a certain point but when you reach that point you must stop again this rule has universal applicability to many aspects of life as well so there you go you got those two opposing forces one is like go and the other one's like no one to stop Yeah.

So those are, let's just say, very important. One of the most important concepts in judo fighting says, if you win, do not boast of your victory. If you lose, do not be discouraged. When it is safe, do not be careless. When it is dangerous, do not fear. Simply continue down the path ahead. Right? Those are normal face.

Yeah. Normal face. Yes. Affirmative. When encountering social pressures such as those. Such as those we experience today, even an incredibly strong-willed person can lose spirit and experience great adversity This is when we must this is when he must show true character at times like these the ability to overcome Difficulties endure and be patient preserved one's honor and maintain a spirit of integrity are truly valuable above all else

In order to do this first you must develop good daily habits These good habits include simplicity and moderation and while thinking of yourself always keep other people and society as a whole in mind as well You must not trouble others for your own convenience and if you can you must try to benefit others while benefiting yourself In other words, you must perfect yourself and contribute to society which is the ultimate purpose of the study of judo And judo's a lot bigger than you thought it was, isn't it? It is yes sir He's trying to take it to the distance It is the way Those who want to do something to benefit society must first make sure they can easily take care of their own business

Yeah Clean your room Yeah, as Jordan says Take care of your own business Yeah, then you can worry about the rest of society like the oxygen mask, right? You gotta put it on yourself first Then you put it on your kid You can handle your kids because if you're suffocating how are you gonna help your kid? You're not You can't here we get a little controversy professional wrestlers and boxers

are generally people of low character. I don't know if I can sign on. Oh, definitely don't sign on with that. And no matter how superior their skills, they are mostly looked down on by society. I guess we'd have to do some research as to what the boxers and wrestlers were like back in his time in Japan.

Some Kodakon members have gained popularity performing on tour with them, but I don't believe this behavior is in accord with the aim of judo. True judo practice. Practitioners must not be performers Hmm so that's there you go right yeah that explains a lot yeah sure he wouldn't like McGregor no no no look down upon for sure McGregor don't care no no all right

And this is this is again I had to call these things out because obviously I don't agree with Wrestlers and boxers being people low character in fact I believe the opposite of that But here's a good one in the future when asked to compete against wrestlers or boxers the competitors must decide whether the judo practitioners will compete under the rules of boxing or wrestling or whether the opponent will compete under the rules of judo. However, those contests must never be commercialized. They must be merely trials between volunteers for the purpose of research. If for some reason, showmen should get involved, people get charged admission and it becomes a spectator sport, you must recognize. that this is in complete violation of the spirit of Kodakon judo.

Hmm. So what about Olympic judo then that's that's a violation? Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of things you call, but actually, you know judo Jean LaBelle? Yeah. He fought he fought against boxer Milo Savage Ninety three and I think it was Denver. I forget where it was, but yeah, that was like that's kind of noted as sort of the the beginning of like whatever popular MMA right boxer versus judoka yeah and judo Jean LaBelle is a American icon he's an icon of grappling if you don't know who judo Jean LaBelle is look him up he's awesome and he actually so he did this back in the day back in 1963 what do you think the outcome was boxer versus judo yeah in a fight fight no they fought they fought they fought like in an MMA I mean it was it was it was you fight each other go that's gene lebelle then yeah that's

gene the bell all day right yeah take down rear naked choke that's what he got yeah that's what he got that's how it went so yeah that's you know it's just interesting how how completely commercialized yeah this is and it's also interesting that again close-mindedness or I don't know if you call it closed-mindedness but he he has a very orderly brain yeah And he was like, look, it's either gonna be those rules or these rules. He didn't think to himself like, hey, you know what? What if you just mix it up and do it all together? Yeah, all rules.

Yeah, all rules. Why wouldn't we do that? Which is interesting because in judo, they do cover striking and you don't hear about it much, but they have, those are part of it. So it's interesting that in his mind is like, no, it's either of those rules or these rules. Yeah, very rigid. Yeah, very rigid thinker. Yeah, that's a good point.

Back to the book. In everyday Randori practice, fighting against. another person is not the real purpose of the practice of judo because fighting to see who will win is interesting it is done on a daily basis yes it is it goes without saying that becoming able to beat someone is one of the ultimate goals of the practice of Rendori however there's clearly a difference between becoming able to beat someone at a future time and becoming obsessed at beating someone now in order to beat someone now it is best for those who are strong to use that strength to

overcome the other person's strength however With that method, if you encounter an opponent who is much stronger than you are, you will naturally lose. So even if you lose for a while, the correct practice of Randori is to slip dexterously away from your opponent, adapt to his strength, cause him to lose his balance while stepping back, and then take advantage of the opportunity to perform Awaza. If you do this kind of training, you will, for a while, often be twisted by the arm and held down or pushed down by your opponent. But if you do not frequently engage in this kind of training, you will never learn how to beat a stronger opponent. So this is what we talk about all the time when we talk about relaxing and trying to relax and putting yourself in bad positions and not using your strength. That's what we're talking about. And again, that applies to life as well.

That applies to not staying in your comfort zone, not continuing to concentrate on what you're good at. focus on your weaknesses that's what that talks about that's interesting his how he said don't don't be focused on beating the other guy you know it's almost like hoiler talked about that real briefly right when i first met him where he was like like it's not like you're not looking how big the guy is how tough he is what belt he has and all this stuff it's like you're focusing on on your jiu jitsu what's lacking what I know and don't know. You know, if I'm focusing on the other guy and I'm gonna beat him and all this stuff,

that's not what the jujitsu is. Yeah, and I'll go ahead and say this, like, this sounds good. It's, but we all, I mean, at least every single person I train with, like we're trying to win. Trying to win, yeah, for sure. Now, that being said, now, actually,

I'm gonna go ahead and correct myself. Like, we train, we want to win, but like you take way more risks training with our with our training team then you would take if you were training with someone else yeah right you take you know you take rescue try new things you put yourself in bad positions I'm gonna try this I'm gonna try this arm lock I'm gonna try this choke even though I might end up on the bottom but that's okay well you know what I mean so I guess that's true I don't focus completely on just trying to beat the

other person yeah so that's that's actually very accurate and I think as you are as you start this game that's the best attitude to have is like hey you got to relax talking to a buddy mine that's just starting jiu-jitsu out and he's like my age and yeah he's like man I'm trying to relax harder he's like I'm trying to relax harder and actually what I sent him a text I was like it's like rock climbing have you ever done any rock climbing yes so there's technique in rock climbing like there's legit technique obviously well it's not obvious if you if you've never rock climb before there's a massive amount of technique in rock climbing it's the way you position your fingers the way position your hands the way you use your legs

You don't hang the weight on your muscles. You hang it on your your bones and your ligaments. So you're not getting tired. Your muscles aren't getting tired out because you're using the technique. If you don't know rock climbing, guess what you do? You hang on to the freaking rock with all your muscle as long as you can.

That's exactly what happens in jih Tzu. When your technique is good, you're just going to hang on. Yeah. Yep. Hang on. The whole thing about Jiu Jitsu and winning and he used the word obsessed. Like if you jam up and get jams.

A little bit of a different scenario. Yeah. And really, when you really look at it, I mean, in the moment, yeah, you want to beat the guy. Like, that's when you train with someone in Jiu-Jitsu or especially when you compete in Jiu-Jitsu. That's actually where the shift kind of occurs. He mentioned competition as not a spectator sport. This is just for experimental purposes. Did he use?

Research, research, yeah. Purposes, which is essentially just training, really. Yeah, yeah, for sure. It's kind of like how when they started the first UFC, that was what they were kind of pushing to. They were like, we were going to. see how what martial arts. Yeah, exactly right. And but really, you know, the thing that people came to see was that for sure.

But it was a show. Like, who's going to win and all this stuff? And when you really look at it, so you see one, two, all these things. It was, I don't want to say rare, but it was almost rare when, aside from Hoyst Gracie, of course, and, you know, Ken Charamock and stuff like this. It was really rare to see the style get maintained. It was like these karate guys and they had their stance and the fight would start and it's, and it's a lot of, And it's just this street fight. Yeah, exactly right.

So, and that was part of the research kind of thing. But, you know, people were there to see who's going to kick who's ass. But it in jiu-jitsu, when you really, when you really think about it, we are kind of maintaining that. Like, we want to see. Like, we're researching all the time. Yeah. And you're just going to work now. And here you can, you can fall back and forth.

Like, sometimes you can get sucked into being obsessed with beating that guy. And maybe if you kind of use it, you know, it's like using anger. to help you, I don't know, get more strength or something just for a moment or whatever. I kind of think that's okay. And I think we all kind of do it in one way or another, not the anger thing necessarily, but I'm going to, like me and you, for example, I might incorporate a little bit of today. So I'm going to get jocco today. That's what I'm kind of focused on for a second.

Yeah, yeah, for a second to help me get better. Maybe you even get me past a mental barrier or something like that. You know, you can do it. But the big picture is just what he's talking about. I just want to get better at my jiu-suit kind of thing. And I will say this too. I ego wise I think it's very positive to be like yeah I don't want to lose and and the only way you're not going to lose is to train all the time yeah so the days that you the days that you're like well you know I don't like yesterday I was on a different time zone came back it was I got back in the day I had a work to do as soon as I hit the ground I got done with that I hit a quick workout and now it's like oh it's guess what time it is jihitsu time And I'm like, well, you know, it's like, oh, well, you know, maybe.

It's been a long day. Like my shoulder kind of hurts right now. So maybe I'll just, you know, rest. Then I was like, no. Come, we're going to train. Because what I know is not training, it's, this is, it's not training one day. Might not make a difference. But that one day does make a difference.

You might not, you might tell yourself it doesn't make a difference, but there's, there's something in there. There's every day of training you can get matters. Every day counts you can't get it back and if you miss it you miss it Especially like right now or I've been traveling a lot lately Way more than normal So I know like if I got to get there you get my rounds in Gotta get my rounds it's the way it's got to be and part of that is my ego Brother is my ego saying look

I got to you know I got a fight I got to be stay on top we got to stay on top of the mountain As high as I can young Lines are here The young bucks are out there They're coming after me. Yes. I appreciate that. But that keeps me in check my ego, the positive part of ego is that I do want to win.

And I don't want to get beat. Now, that being said, guess who I train with? I train with all the guys that are most likely to beat me. That's what I want. I want to have that happen. So there's a balance. There's a good balance there. And at the end of the day, there's really no escape it.

And I think it's real prevalent, like for you and Dean. It's really prevalent where, sure, you have all that. You have all those thoughts, you know, in your head or whatever, but it all comes in. The whole reason you have that thought is to get better at Jiu-Jitsu. For sure. Yeah, because when you start Jiu-Jitsu, you like, some people say, even me, like, well, you know, I just want to get good enough to, like, you know, be able to defend myself. Well, after six months, man, you're good. So what am I doing here 25 years later?

Still doing the same damn thing. Because, like, there's a couple guys that I, you know, I want to keep ahead of or even with or catch, you know, like, that's what's driving this. So there's a definite ego thing involved. But I think where that goes too far, the ego goes too far, this is obvious answer, is like, oh, I don't really, you know, I'm not gonna train with that guy because you might catch me, right?

Then now you're not progressing. Now you're in this thing that he's talking about, like you're not gonna progress because you're not gonna train with that person or you're not gonna take any risks whatsoever. So you're just gonna defend, defend, and you like, oh, I survived the round and I'm out of here.

So you gotta, you gotta keep that, of like hey I'm gonna get beat and you know that's a thing jih Tijuana works man Jiu Jitsu works and if somebody catches you yeah doesn't matter who they are right if they catch you Jiu Jitsu works you tap out you go again that's a beautiful thing about Jitza yes that's the beautiful thing about life because in life you're not gonna win every time you're gonna get caught you're gonna make mistakes someone's gonna capitalize on them so what are you gonna do you gonna give up and even more important than that you can lose you can lose is whatever thing you're trying to do you can lose you're

trying to start a new business you can lose you're trying to start a new business you can You're trying to get a new job you can lose you can lose in life. So are you gonna prevent that from even getting Let that prevent you from even getting on the mat in the first place on even trying to start a new business even trying to Try to try to do something that's outside your comfort zone That's what this that's what this is saying is get outside your comfort zone Yeah, don't sit there. It's not gonna help you Yeah, and you can see it with with the guys who you can tell or just focus on like being the guy who beat the other guy kind of thing And they'll do those kinds of things.

They'll roll. And then when they, after, you know, two, three rounds, when they feel their steam kind of going down, they'll leave. Or they'll sit on the side and talk and be like, I'm not rolling anymore. We're the only roll small guys. I did that to Andy yesterday.

What? We did like six rounds. And I was like, bro, I need some backup. Because, you know, he's training for events. You know, I'm like, I'm going to give, I was like, hey, I called Dr. Luke. I'm like, Dr. Luke, give me some help over here. I need some backup.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You know? because got to get him to step it up. But what's interesting, what's the reality is when I have the time or not when I have the time, but like I always get my rounds in too.

Like we're doing, if we got two guys that are competing and we're doing two and one out, like I put them through it and then I go through it too because I want to get my training because I'm trying to get better too. To your point.

Yeah. You're not in there trying to be dandy kind of thing about you guys are training. I'm trying to get better. Yeah, and that's exactly what I mean. And it's obvious, you know, But you know what's a big symptom of someone who's who's focusing on the wrong thing is like If they don't do well or whatever and they say stuff like oh you're lucky this isn't MMA or something like that

They're like they're unhappy about the fact that they got by you specifically Yeah, yeah, you know like I used to determine this guy will remain nameless Um long time ago and that's what he'd always say like oh yeah if there were strikes I would have won kind of thing He'd say that kind of stuff all the time I was like bro focusing on the wrong thing or Now the fact that you quote unquote got beat or I beat you and this is how you would have beat me, you know you're focused on the wrong thing Why do you think I do because I do this? I do the opposite When I roll with someone and I'll be like hey, you know Like I'll catch him or whatever. I'll be like yeah, you know

Hey if this is MMA like let's say I'm going there maybe fire you catch him I'll be like hey you know if this is MMA you know you're on top for a while you've been you would have been pounding me in the face That would have been good. You would have won or if I'm going against a jihitsy guy and I catch him or something I'll be like yeah you know though if that was points though you were up like eight points you probably would have beat me and that That took me 15 minutes to get, so you would have won. Yeah, and it seems, I obviously, I don't know exactly what's going on your head, but it seems like that would be something you'd say

to someone to make them kind of feel better. Because, you know, it's a little mini competition in there, for real. I mean, that's essentially what makes it so good because he's giving you an accurate look, how a motivated opponent, attack, or whatever, would look like. He's going full speed against you.

So there is that element of, like, we're competing against each other. And when you lose, it's kind of like, I lost to this guy, especially if you're not that used to, training or or so i'm just being nice you're being nice i think yeah and at the same time if you're saying stuff like hey if you this is was mma you'd be pounding me or something like that that there could be a little element of your own training kind of like you're just voicing your own thoughts like okay

i kept that in mind where you know i would have got hit there and you're just kind of voicing it maybe for the benefit of yourself as well as the guy i don't know that that's what it seems like um would happen if someone was thinking those things check well you know that's we can go on this book for a long time I think that's a good place to reflect and say look there's a lot of principles that you can apply judo and jujitsu there's things that jiu jitsu should you should take from jiu jitsu and things that you should take from judo principles and if you mix those two together you get something that's really powerful not just on the mat but something that's really powerful to apply to your life again is everything in this theory's perfect no

Somebody asked me that the other day. I was with a group of young leaders and someone, because I was talking about how it's beneficial to read about history and understand warfare and understand it gives you an insight into human nature and it gives you insight into people, the way people think and all this stuff. And this guy says, hey, do you ever think that maybe what you read was wrong and if you apply what was you read, you'll actually end up making a mistake or do you just follow what, you know, history? And I'm like, no, that's the whole reason.

I go because the more you read the more you understand the more different angles you see and I'm questioning every decision I make I'm questioning all these things all the time and I'm using all these different information that I have in my head as sounding boards to check off of like what at least let me shed some light on it gather some intelligence That's what that's what I'm trying to do So yeah question yourself and question these theories That's what I think that's one of the best things about it's one of the best things about MMA and Jiu Jitsu and fighting right now is that it's evolving so fast and and and and it's open for it and if you're not down for that right now you're gonna be left in the dust you're gonna be left in dust does this mean that every fancy new move that comes out should be applied to your game no it doesn't mean that at all does it mean that every fancy Gigi Jiu Jitsu move that you

saw in worlds would be super effective in a fist fight no it doesn't mean that at all but should you have an open mind to understand that some of those things could be absolutely beneficial yes you definitely should Yeah, so keep an open mind with everything that you're doing you know that idea of broad-mindedness Sometimes I wish Kana would have had a little bit more broad-mindedness Yeah, because that would you know it would have been beneficial You know that's one of the sad things about judo is they they outlawed the double-leg take down in judo You can't do it you can do it after you've done another

Take-down attempt so it can be like a follow-on got you but that's not cool No, that's not cool I can see and it's the same thing with with Jiu-jitsu right where they out lost certain submissions like the heel hook with gijitsu yeah right like the heel hook is still there the heel hook itself is still there in the in the the motion of yeah like it's there you you shouldn't outlaw it should be part of it because then you have people ending up in positions where they're not effective fighting positions they're not because you can get heel hook and you get your knee torn apart yeah so why would you outlaw something that's very effective it's it's I understand that

There is some danger in the heel hook. For those of you don't know, the danger of the heel hook is that it doesn't create pain before it creates industry, in injury. Well, it doesn't create a lot of pain before it creates industry, in injury. So you can have a heel hook on you, and you can be like, oh, I can get out of this.

And the person starts applying pressure, and you're like, oh, that doesn't really hurt and then pop, you have to go get surgery now. That's the problem with heel hooks. But if you and your training partners understand that, and if competitors understood, like, hey, if I get caught here, I get caught here, I'm gonna end up in surgery if I don't tap.

Yeah. So that's, if you understand that, then you won't go in these positions that where you're exposed to a heel hook. So that's what you should do not only with Jiu-Jitsu, but you should do with life too. Like understand what really works. Don't outlaw things.

Don't avoid things just because you're not good at them. Yeah. Open yourself up to them. Do you know why they don't, they really don't allow heel hooks in ghee competition? Do you know why? Are you asking me that question? Yeah.

Do you know the reason for that? The that they say it would I think it's because the the possibility of injury. Yeah, then no ghee they let it like because you can slide more and I don't know I think that's I think that might be just tradition but hopefully you know they should allow double leg takedowns in judo they should allow heel hooks in jiu jitsu in in gee jiu jitsu now this doesn't mean if you roll with me and we're rolling ghee you just slap a heel hook on me because I won't be expecting that and I'll be pissed or that should be part of your train. Yeah and so congratulations. Well, it is, but yeah, yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah, I would say that is one of those things. Here's what it is with the hill with ghee like if someone bust that because it's so widely known as as

Disrespectful. Yeah, it's like so if you get a guy especially let's say extreme scenario a new guy comes in he's a purple belt Hungry blue belt he comes in he rolls with you know one of the instructors black belt or whatever Gee you know they're rolling and he's going super hard and he goes for a heel hook pause right there technically the what what as far as what we're talking about that should be okay we're all here training we're all getting better he's going hard thank thanks for the good training kind of thing he did but we're essentially trained to see heel hooks with the gear as as as disrespectful it's against the rules it's so embedded in it's it's embedded in the culture

really but really but as far as what we're talking about like it's it's really okay you know yeah he's I'll say no, that's not okay. And the reason I'm saying that, I don't even know if it's looking out. This is like contradictory for me because, but this is the similar thing, right? If you, if you came into the gym and like,

you went for a heel hook on me, we were training ghee, and I started punching in the face. Right? Like, you weren't expecting that, but you should be prepared for it. So there is, there is. If you understand that that's what you're training, like, oh, are we street rules,

punches illegal? allowed or whatever I'm saying there's there's certain things that are universally as far as I I have not been anywhere and I talked to a lot of jujee people and I roll a lot of different jitsu places where it's like you're wearing a geek you're it's your you're cleared hot to do heel hooks yeah I have not seeing that anywhere me neither and it should be that way well I mean technically the thing is I'm with you and there you know there's exceptions of course and just because I happened is it Craig Craig Baker will allow him and say yeah you can heal hook it doesn't come up because just

Like what we're saying it's so widely known and understood from the beginning. Yeah. You don't do heel hooks with the ghee. It's just but why is that? We don't really think about why is that and does it? Because those are the recognized sanctioned rules right just like the recognized sanction rules say that if we're grappling, I'm not going to start punching you in the face. No, but no because that's punching in the face is not grappling like if it if it is punching in the face does deviate from when you when you start learning Jitsu unless it's understood that that that's that. That's the kind of training you're going to get. So here's the thing. Okay, when I put on the ghee, these moves are not allowed, right? There's no. Yeah. I don't know.

There's no rules. I mean, sure, I be JJF, but, you know, most, there's a probably bigger percentage of people that do Jiu-J-ZU have never competed in IBJ-J-J-F tournament. Probably the majority of people. Yet we're following IBJF rules in training sometimes, even though actually the ghee competitions, I've never heard of a ghee competition that allows heel hooks. Yeah. Even at Black Belt.

But who is that that they're not allowed, so don't do them. That's not the point. The point is why are they not allowed, given what we're just talking about? They're, in my opinion, they're not allowed because of the propensity or possibility of an injury or I, people think that there's a high possibility you could get injured there. They're somewhat accurate because it is a different kind of pain. It was a lack of pain. And so there's a little bit accuracy. Yeah, I dig it.

And I see if, you know, especially if that is true as far as why they want it. Because some people might say they don't want it because Jiu-Jitsu was always looked at as this linear thing. Like Donner mentioned, kind of mentioned part of this where, you know, you get past the legs and you work your way up his body to tap them out. And you can start tapping them out when you get up to the upper body. And the legs were just something you had to get past because they're going to try to kick you. And, you know, they have leverage on their own body and all this stuff. And that's it. That's traditionally how we look at Jiu Jitsu,

and that's the effectiveness. Jiu Jitsu is the best and all this stuff. Now you get, you know, a new person or someone from Samba or whatever will come in and be like, oh, that's Jiu Jitsu or let me go ahead and kind of flip it upside down a little bit

and change what this Jiu Jitsu is. And they're like, we don't like that kind of thing. Yeah, that could be why. I'm just saying that's what I heard. Yeah. Could be why. So let me ask you this.

I have heard like that people's initial reaction. I think I've heard Dean say this. Like if your reaction is like, oh, that's not good for my game. We'll just outlaw it. Yeah. So that's what it resulted in. Yeah. Because all jiu-jitsu guys are training this specific way.

Well, and that's what judo did. Hey, double-leg takedowns are not good for judo against a wrestler. You get someone that's been wrestling for 27 years and they come into a judo competition. They hit a double leg. It's not good for the judo player. Yeah. So guess what kind of thing. Yeah.

And so guess what? Outlaw. Yeah. Which is a bummer. Right. And so yeah, I'm not pro outlawing anything. That was the ultimate point there. That's what I heard.

So let me ask you this. Do you think in training heel hooks with the gee, just you personally, you think they should be allowed? Heel hooks with the key. I think they should be allowed every time, all the time, everywhere. But they are not right now. And therefore, in my mentality is like, okay, because I'm not going to put myself a new position that a heel hook is available to you unless I know that they're not available. Exactly, yeah, I did, and I dig it. And actually, I agree.

That's the same thing, like, if we were going to roll and I just did it, no good. But if I said, hey, before we rolled, like, when we're walking, or even right before we kind of, you know, shook hands or whatever, I said, hey, heel hooks are a go. That would change the game. Yeah, it would change the game for sure. Okay, so same thing, like, if you're doing no ghee, and you know guys, like, they just don't know or whatever,

and they'll grab your shorts, they'll grab your shirt, rash guard, whatever, they'll grab it, you know, because they just don't know. Even if it's the same deal less dangerous of course, But same deal where it's like when you start doing that they'll stop and be like hey you can't do that kind of thing Yeah, but if you say before you roll hey, yeah you can grab shorts whatever up to you just don't pull them off or something like that It's kind of one of those deals. Yeah, you could I guess make some ad hoc rules before you start rolling but yeah Or just go with what's universally accepted at this time Slaps in the face are legal sometimes it's cool whatever check all right, well, well, well, yeah, well,

Well, like I said, a lot of stuff to learn from judo and jujitsu to make yourself better in those sports and in life. So good. Yeah, bro, the, I was actually pretty, I don't want to say impressed, but pretty, yeah, impressed with the whole book. Yeah, yeah. Except for the part about telling people how to eat. Telling people how to eat. The calisthenics are no good. Yeah.

Being buff is a waste of time. There's definitely some. And I, there's some truth to that one of them. It's weird because as I'm preparing the podcast, I'm like, okay, do I just say the things in here that I agree with? Yeah, yeah.

Because one way I could do it. Do I, because one thing that's, I was thinking about, when I read a quote from a book, people, do they kind of think like, well, I agree with that? Like, I support this unless I outwardly just reject it. Yeah, and I kind of did half the book where I was like, well, you know, I don't really talk about that because I see where he's coming from, but that's not really my gig. And then I got to other parts where I was like, I have to talk about the fact that he thinks that this stuff is, you know, this is a completely different than what I think, you know? Yeah. So, yeah, I guess I try and explain myself as I talk about it. But yeah, there's definitely some things that I don't agree with that I don't agree with about judo. Like, you know, there's things that I don't agree with about Jiu-Ditsu. That's why I think there's a good mixture of. the two that would be very powerful you know bring we need to bring Dave Camarillo on yeah you know some of these other guys that have grown up in judo and are

savage at jiu jitsu yeah agree so anyways cool well speaking of you know getting better in jiu jiu jitsu and getting better in life sure any suggestions on how people could get better yeah so when you get when you start doing jiu jitsu what kind of you're gonna get that's probably one of the one two three maybe four questions you're going to have the first four what kind of ghee you get you get that's going to be one of them that's my guess that's my uh prediction um shoot you can be in jujit and still say hey what kind of gee should i get you know new ghee whatever anyway here's the answer origin you get an origin gee that's what you do because they are factually factually

see a rigid i'm being right there factually the best geese there are all made in america by the way different types of geese there they got some new stuff by the way Pete just sent me some new stuff it's not that new they're just different like styles it's not geese it's what I get some sweats oh okay which happened to me happen to be the most comfortable sweats in my experience you know you know stuff he didn't send it to me sorry bro you know some they must be joggers something they are told me are and they're yeah they're really good but nonetheless back to the geese um yeah get them at origin main dot com that's a good

good one support yourself support the Jujits support life support America America oh yes they're made in America yep from the dirt to the shirt from the dirt to the shirt the cotton that is grown in America gets turns into a ghee somehow Pete does that part isn't it kind of cool to think that when you put on a ghee like there's that that that that key came from a factory in Maine came from a from a factory in Maine that was built specific Specifically to make Jiu-Jitsu geese and that there's people up there The workers up there craftsmen up there that are sowing that gie for you and then it gets put from Maine into a bag and sent to your eyes isn't that kind of right? It is yeah, you know it's not like can a gie can a gie have soul I'm gonna ask you that question can a ge have soul? We don't know the answer to that question metaphorically speaking

Yes, yeah but we can make us an assessment from the outside and If a ghee has soul, then you'd want that soul to come from Maine. Right? And if certain geese had souls and some geese didn't have souls, you would for sure want the geese with a soul. Yes, 100%. And if geese do indeed have souls, which I tend to believe they do, they could. Then you'd want the good souls, the American souls from Maine. Sure. Yep.

Well, if Pete starts making shoes, you'll know that they'll have souls. Wow. Echo made a funny. Nonetheless, origin main.com, that's where you get them. Also, in jujitsu, okay, we've got to be honest here. In jujitsu, it's physical. You twist your arms, your neck, and your body. Not twist, like injure it, but, you know, it gets some work.

And with work needs recovery. With recovery comes supplementation, good supplementation. Crill oil. I feel like I've said the word krill oil probably more than I've said any. other food item or dietary supplement in my whole life. Good. I'm kind of happy about it because of how beneficial is. Got more krill oil too, by the way, from Pete with the joggers, which are nice, by the way.

Also, another one called Joint Warfare. These are all Jocko supplements, by the way, if you didn't know, super krill. Not just regular. Super Jocko super cruel. Joint warfare, which is another formula for joint maintenance, reconstruction. Someone said, hey, I got knee surgery. Is this going to help me? Yes.

Yes. It will help your knee recover. Especially the meniscus situation. Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Anything where, okay, so, I'm not going to go too deep into it.

But anything involving cartilage, like these things, that don't get a bunch of blood flow. Oh, okay. Yeah. They tend to degenerate over, well, everything degenerates, but over time. Not for everyone. Not for everyone. Yeah, no complacency, right? No backing off.

Nonetheless, joint warfare, that's a good one. Maintain the joints. And this goes for any kind of physical activity. Your joints will thank you. Or you'll thank your joints. You'll thank Jocko for Jocko, cruel oil and joint warfare. Also, discipline.

Not just regular discipline. It's a supplement discipline. It's a pre-mission. Cognitive enhancing. Yeah, because people were making stuff that helped you physically, like a pre-workout and then they were making neutropics that would help you mentally like your cognition sure and well in my job especially my old job guess what i needed both both yeah i needed to be mentally sharp

and i needed to be physically sharp yeah so i wanted everything in the same like mix sure bland that's why we made the discipline yeah and you didn't want to do the pre-workout and then boom and then okay let me go ahead take the other one right here okay boom and then you know you wanted to get them both Get them both one time one hit One win and you feel it and it feels good Yeah, that's what like yesterday I was talking about the rounds I did Yeah, because I knew I was coming in and I was gonna pay the man so I just sure hit the discipline Yeah yeah taste good too by the way yeah yeah tastes amazingly good what's interesting about it is because that's monk fruit

Yeah, it's monk fruit you know what about monk fruit no monk fruit is the sweetener that's used in discipline It's like whatever 87,000 times sweeter than sugar, but it's just a fruit. So you only need a little tiny bit in there. Low glycemic index. It's low on the glycemic index. Low on the glycemic index. Sure.

So it doesn't give you the insulin spike. And we'll just say that's good. Oh, yeah. Just so people know, there's caffeine in it. But there's only 15 milligrams of caffeine. So you're not going to get jittery, but you get a little microdose of gets some. A little help, a little, little caffeine. Along with the other but monk fruit also it like helps and it's it's legit yeah

Other benefits on that one nonetheless it's called discipline taste good because jock wants it to taste good Yeah that kind of freaked you out yeah threw me off for sure you thought maybe I just want things to taste horrible So it takes more discipline to drink it not black and white like that I was like interesting that that was part of the focus but hey good I say good Well you're gonna be really happy that I have this attitude when the when the protein comes out Sure. Mint chocolate chip. Yeah, the mint chocolate. You know, just FYI, it's not normal.

And it's got the monk fruit in it, so that's the sweetener. So it tastes delicious. And it doesn't taste like anything else. There's no way that it could taste this good and be what it is. Gotcha, yeah. Yeah. So I just made up, I had to make up my own name for it. Yeah?

Yeah. I dig it. You did the right thing. Did the right thing. called m o k with the umlot over the oh you know why tribute to motorhead layers layers good man I think that's good so yeah pretty soon people are gonna be on the mook when is that it's a couple weeks we've got it we went through the final testing it's so it's so it tastes good it's easy to digest easy all the good things yeah because and they so remember back in

Especially it's mulk Yeah It kind of sounds like mead This is like I don't even know what to This isn't it's not like a chocolate milkshake. It's not like a protein shake. It's like but it's like it's like milk I don't know man Remember uh mega mass I think it was 5,000 or 3,000 or one thousand was it 5,000? Probably no it was 1,000 2000 2000

500 it might have been okay I think that was at south park that was 5,000 right Double super colostrum seven Super I don't know They always had these crazy We used to make fun of those names Nonetheless, it was super delicious It was like a big like dog food bag Full of Mega Mass 500 or whatever it was

Chocolate, you drink it and it tastes straight up Like a chocolate milkshake And guess what? It probably was just a chocolate milkshake Yeah, I was gonna say that's the thing That's yeah You see all kind of like quote health foods nowadays Like oh this pro you look at the thing On a protein bar

Yeah, and then compare protein bar to a snickers bar and it's like the same content inside of it yeah whatever yeah to be careful I saw how it's cool that's what's cool about discovering the monk fruit is is being able to make stuff taste really good without having the crap artificial sweeteners in it yeah in a way that's kind of going back to your roots right like where where it's like okay we got sweetness sweetness is a thing it's a natural thing we'd like it you know for a reason all this stuff cool man don't do away with the sweetness yeah but you know when you start engineering foods to

like to do kind of like the advertising I was talking about I was but wait maybe I should come up with something that just tastes horrible you just have to gut check to taste it just to test yourself mentally yeah yeah see how good that does yeah man I'm sure everyone will get that it's just really yeah the mulk yeah who made that word up you oh yeah motor yeah gotcha nonetheless that's going to be available the mok it's going to be available in a few weeks apparently yeah for the joint warfare and super krill and this is a good idea by the way do the subscription they're recurring where you get

so you don't got to remember you get down to your last three pills because you don't know if you have like six pills that's two days in my case I don't know how many you take but I mean I know how many you take but I don't know how many other people take you get six pills in there you don't know how many pills in there you get one pill okay I know there's only one by that time too late

even six pills technically it's almost too late pretty much you go subscription don't worry about that stuff boom get the subscription also like we said gis rash guards compression gear joggers most comfortable ones in the world in my experience I don't know maybe there's a more comfortable one maybe not if there is I have never seen it do the joggers have a soul probably I like it they touched your soul that's the important they comforted it for sure hundred percent hundred percent

origin main dot com good way to support also in Maine the Jiu Jitsu immersion camp immerse yourself in jiu-jitsu for half a week, right? Half a week and a half a week. There's like two sessions. Can you do both sessions? Yes, you can. I mean, is that like a thing? Of course.

Oh, yeah. Okay. So there's an option for that. Boom, one week immersion into jiu-jitsu. Just learning. You know, it's not like boot camp or like, you know, you're going to be forced to do a bunch of calisthenics, which we don't advocate, apparently, anymore.

Oh, no, we still advocate calisthenics. I advocate calis, especially like a burpee situation, which I think is. advocate all kinds of calisthenics actually you can't show me a calisthenic that I don't advocate even though people like are like sit-ups are no good they work your soo as muscle they don't even work no I advocate them too I like strong soous muscles yeah yeah good yeah just tell me they're like oh they just need more abs it works your soaz muscles like cool I have strong so ass muscles next question first off yes they do work your abs

trade and trade don't do sit-ups for one year yeah do all your other stuff and then do five sets of burnout sit-ups and then see if your abs or so the next day don't see What's burnout sit-ups? Burnout sit-ups. That's a burn-out set-ups. Can you even do sit-ups to failure? Oh, yeah. It's hard, and it's going to burn.

How much time you got to have? You have the whole day. Here's the thing. The point isn't how many sit-ups you can do or can't do. The point is people saying sit-ups don't do your ab muscles. They do hip flexor and so. They do that too, but they do your ab muscles. Nonetheless, I agree with you.

Do you do jumping jacks? Yeah. I do jumping jacks too. Actually, I did jump jacks last week. It was part of a Metcon, but still. There was an old old team guy workout Working a day. Yeah, jumping jacks pull-ups. I'm sorry, jumping jacks push-ups. You just do jumping jacks and push-ups and you think it's no big deal. And then like you're 45 minutes into it. You're like I hate jumping jacks and push-ups. Yeah, I don't know if I'd ever do something continuously for 45 minutes. Yeah, well that would just be like the first half of that workout Stupid. Yeah, that one would get, especially after you want to do that again and again. You can do get any exercise. You can do get any exercise. and you can make it suck after 45 minutes.

Yeah. Like there's, I can't even think of an exercise that doesn't suck after 45 minutes. You know, you used to doing buds, neck rotations. Just do that in the teams too. Yeah.

You're just laying down. That's like, you're like, okay, you're just gonna lay down and move my head around. Oh, laying down. Yeah, I never tell. Yeah, you lay down neck rotations. One, two, three, one.

Yeah, do that for 45 minutes. You're like, this is the dumbest thing I've ever done in my life, but I'm glad we're doing it. Yeah. Yeah, I think you're right about that. Sure. Well, I figured the key would be,

if you don't like the whole 45 minutes thing is you do something that's hard enough of a movement that you don't have to do for 45 minutes. Yeah, that's good if you don't want to just do something that sucks for 45 minutes. I did a Metcon like just kind of representative of what you were talking about earlier where it was like how many of these two movements

you can do within a certain amount of time. Yeah. So it's, which was different. Usually I set my rest time to a certain time and I do them and boom. And yeah, that was a good, good little change up. Yeah. Do that.

Or you can do the jumping jacks and pull-ups for 45 minutes. No, jumping jacks push-ups. This would be a time when you wouldn't even have pull-up bars, so we're like on a ship or something. Yeah. Okay, jumping jacks push-ups. Yeah. Everyone just goes, oh, God.

It's boring, boring workout. Nonetheless, back to origin, jujitsu camp. You won't be doing jumping jacks push-ups. 100%. Unless you want to, then you can, you know. But it's more learning jujitsu, practicing jujitsu. No pressure. Unless you put some pressure on yourself, which I recommend.

Yeah, do that. By the way, enroll with everybody, you know. Do some, what's the word? What's the rolling? Randori. Randori. We'll be doing some Randori and some Nwaza. And some kata.

A lot of kata, by the way. Yeah, a lot of good instructors there. I'll be there. I'll be there. I will be there. Dave Burke is going to be there. Dave Berk's going to be there. Big time.

He's got the bug. Yeah. Yeah. Get some. I haven't talked to JP and or Leif. See if they're going to roll up and roll. Oh, about the camp. Yeah.

Makes sense. But yeah, nonetheless, it is August 26th through September 2nd of this year. Also, speaking of boring workouts, jocco workouts, doing 45 minutes of jumping jacks and push-ups, I don't think so. But if you want an interesting, where actually I shouldn't give you crap about it because I did look on your Instagram and you had like some Bulgarian bag on there. So you got to, you vary your workout. Oh, yeah. Your workout gets interesting. Yeah, yeah, okay, I dig it.

Credit. Very interesting. So if you want to make your workout interesting, get some new movements, new equipment in there, go to audit. dot com slash jaco slash jaco. Go in there, get you some good kettlebells. Even though kettlebells, I guess, ultimately could be viewed as boring. You can make them boring. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of the fun.

If you're boring. Yeah, you know what? Ultimately, that's really what it is. Because even me doing the same metcon that I do all the time, all I did was, all I did was switch up like one teeny tiny thing. So it was more about me than the workout. For sure. Or it was a workout,

but less about the equipment, more about me. Nonetheless, if you want to make it about the equipment, Anna has the equipment. Maces, steel bells. See, I haven't even done that.

That's like some advanced creativity stuff. You know, battle ropes, all this stuff that'll get you functional strength and actual strength. Just joking. Bonus. That's a, you know, thing. Anyway, on it.com slash jaco, good spot.

A lot of good info on there as well. Also, when you get this book called Mind Over Muscle, I'm going to list it on. Can you get it on Amazon? Yep. Okay, I'm going to list it on the website. No, this was handed down to me through the ancient tradition. Nope.

Bro, whatever. You had a book before that wasn't available. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, one of these old school, old style books. Nonetheless, not this one. When you get it, don't worry. Go to jocoppodcast.com. put it in the book section with all the books boom click through there good way to support and you get

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But it's like I guess my face falls way outside of the group of faces that practically May not practically but that that seemingly probably match my voice. I guess that's that's what I hear too Apparently I still hear it so if you care Subscribe to the YouTube channel I guess technically you wouldn't have to subscribe to you just look at it But if you want to support at the same time if you want subscribe to the podcast on you YouTube. Also, we have excerpts on there, so that's another reason, by the way. You know, you want to share these shorter excerpts with people and watch them. Boom.

YouTube is the place to do it. Also, some enhanced excerpts, that's what I'm calling them today. Enhance. Put some music on there, make you feel good about it. Here's the thing. You advocate discipline, like the way you feel doesn't matter. I would say this. It matters less than discipline.

It still does matter. Yeah. When you're fired up to go do a workup. Whatever, bro. When you're fired up to go do a workout Versus the day when you really don't want to do a workout Why is it then all the time people like oh I didn't want to work out today but I did anyways and I set a PR in my whatever Yeah, why does that happen that happens sometimes so your theory's wrong no no no lock it up

No I wasn't done with my theory If you feel like working out and you're fired up to go work out That's gonna be a good workout chances are not all the time I get it If you really don't feel like working at your dragging ass dragging. You got 5.5 hours of sleep and you're not Jocko by the way

and you ate some Snickers or something like this and you're like dang I still got to work out you really don't feel like it and you have a bunch of other stuff to do and you go work out I ever say about Snickerdoodle?

No what is I mean I know what us Snickerdoodle is this guy in the teams whose name happened to be Nick and we were like new guys and we went on a compass course the only food that he brought out the field was was Snickers like you know like the 12 pack of stickers sure sure yeah

he brought he bought like three 12 packs of stickers and that's all he brought for five days dang it didn't go down well no yeah I wouldn't think so he got a mega diarrhea case so the whole marketing so his nickname was snickerdoodle after that uh got you nick yeah snickerdoodle stick pretty funny yeah and it was pretty bummed out actually after that one It's good. We had a guy named Snickers on our football team at UH. Snickers. He was like the center.

Oh, that was his last name? No. It was his nickname full on. But I, that's how, you know how certain guys have, their nickname is so strong you don't really, you know,

like you. It was like that. Nonetheless, back to the point. If you're fired up to go workout, chances are you going to have a better workout. Same thing with the Jocco's message. If you're fired up to listen to it,

it might sink in better. Might. You put some good music on it. Boom, might see it get better. It might, I don't know. That's why it's enhanced. You know, special messages. Nonetheless, the point there is,

subscribe to the YouTube channel if you want. Good way to support. Also, Jocko is a store. It's called jocco store. Jocco store.com. Patches are in. Guys have been hitting me up. I haven't seen beanies on there.

Yeah, you know, it's a process. Well, here's the thing. We've got to prove them. We'll have them right in time for July. So we got that going for us. Yeah, you know, I'm just. Good job. Hey, man.

You know, better. than never I guess with those in the meantime it doesn't apply when it's summertime and you get a beanie the mail does not apply well maybe I'll get the thin ones just straight late you do it there's nothing better about it straight no doubt about it hey look you're right and we're still gonna work hard on the beanies and get them get them out quality can't rush great greatness quality dude you know what I'm nine months for a beanie that's not about rushing could have come with three with all kinds of quality,

like mega quality. Those things could have been knitted from cashmere. Yeah. Could have grown the cotton. It could have grown the phone, right? All right. Well, I'm going to continue to work. And, you know, when they're out,

they're going to be out. They're going to be fantastic. They better be. All right, there you go. Amazing. In the meantime. Maybe it takes a lot to get a soul into a beanie. Yep, yeah, it could be.

Got it. In the meantime, do some cool shirts on there. I think they're cool. Dislin equals freedom. Get after it. That's a good one. Simple to the point back to the book that's a new one I think put out another titles yeah all of them on the back well

All the book titles up until the point yeah so what up until what podcast You should figure that out that's like a layer yeah yeah should be the first hundred but you probably didn't do that I think it was a hundred no no no it was like hundred something layers been missed that's fine because then we could put it on another back of the book at 200 yeah like the updated Missed layer. Yeah, yeah. Maybe, maybe not. Or maybe I'll add a layer because layers are addable. Edible?

Maybe. You can add layers. You see what I'm saying? Anyway, some shirts on there, some rash guards on there, some patches there, like I said, some women's stuff on their, hoodies. Also, decals. You know what decal is? Jesse's decals. Jesse's decals.

Here's the thing with decals. Where they're essentially a sticker, right? And we all know what decals, I understand. But he uses like this stuff like the material for this decal is like supposed to survive the apocalypse Like that kind decals Okay Yeah Good way to support

Jesse don't play around with the no not at all and this kid like he was like we you know, we go back and forth and he's like yeah, I make decals I was like yeah, that's a good idea or whatever and then Another company called I think it was called echelon front something like this They got some decals and I was like dang these decals and I was like dang these decals and I Obviously prompted me to, okay, we need our decals. They're legit. They are legit. And they're on jocco store.com. By the way.

Good way to support. If you want something, get something. Also, psychological warfare. If you don't know what that is, this is what it is. It's an album with tracks of jaco helping you through. This is what the track is. It's not a music track. It's jaco on there, every track.

Helping you get through your moment of weakness. And we have them. I have them. Jocko has him, even though he, you know, is reluctant to admit that from time to time. And what it does is, let's say you're going to skip the workout. I think skipping workout, this is my opinion, skipping workout and cheat, not cheating on a diet. Can you cheat on a diet technically? Yes.

Yeah, huh? It's like you're cheating. You weren't supposed to do this and you did it anyway. Yeah, you betrayed your yourself, you know, because you have a future self. Is you what I'm saying? Like yourself of right now will make like a, a, a problem. Right and then your future self essentially cheats on your yeah, yeah, I saw some meme of Homer Simpson Saying like all this guy's future's not looking good

He's eating like a donut or whatever. Yeah, yeah exactly right. Yeah, yeah, so yeah technically it is if you're cheating on your past self on the diet Don't worry about that you start feeling that feeling come along you got a track for that you just listen to it and it's and it's essentially like jocco telling you why you shouldn't slip Why you shouldn't slip down that slippery slope in whatever activity some good ones on there procrastination all that stuff. So yeah check down one out good way to support very effective too that's on iTunes Apple music no Amazon Amazon music Google play Apple iTunes wherever you can get MP3s that's where you can get it also you can get from Amazon you can get jocco white tea it tastes really good it does have 15 grams of caffeine so that's a little microdose

That's why I put 15 grams of caffeine inside the discipline because that was the dose that I like It has but but it's only 15 milligrams so you don't get jittery It also has a high level of antioxidants that's what the pomegranate does that's why it's a pomegranate white tea and of course In addition to those things it is the only white tea that comes the guaranteed eight thousand pound den left So that's good you got that going for you even Jordan Peterson now you know I got to a text from him and he's up to 8,000 pounds. Oh, dang. Okay.

So he was plateaued at 7,000 pounds as he admitted on, uh, he doesn't like to admit his weaknesses either, but there it was. Yeah, yeah, it's hard. 7,000 pounds, you know, pretty, pretty sad. Brooks, no, now he's to say 8,000, so good for him. Oh, good. Yeah. All it took us a little jockey way to you.

Also, we got some books. I got some books. I got a, I got a book called Way of the Warrior Kid, the principles of being a, a warrior and really of being a good human being and they're in there and they are simple. They're clear enough for a six-year-old, a seven-year-old, an eight-year-old, an 80-year-old to understand them. And it gets better because the story continues in the book, Way the Warrior Kid. Two, Mark's Mission. And this book starts to hit on some other principles in life, keeping your emotions under control, working hard, being frugal, saving money, and also dealing with Nathan James.

Nathan James New bully Psychological bully A little bit different Mark wants to fight him Mark figures hey I've been training jiu jit so I'm gonna fight this guy But instead uncle jake says no You can fight him

First you have to gather intelligence on him You have to figure out What's going on With Nathan James Understand why he's your enemy and see if there's another way to solve this problem Besides fighting Turns out to be very serious

good also mark has a jih Ternament coming up and guess what he doesn't want to compete in it he He doesn't want to do his first jihitsu tournament why? Because he's afraid he's afraid of losing he's afraid of Failing fear of failure that's bad so he's got all these problems how does he overcome him well luckily uncle jake's in the house Uncle Jake is out for the summertime gives him a hand order that book is going to be available April 24th Same thing with all the other books Well the last two books that have come out It's gonna sell out The publisher doesn't understand how many books to make

They want to hedge their bets So they're just gonna make a certain amount So the more people order now First of all you'll get it when it comes out And second of all they'll know that they need to make more And order it from wherever order it from Amazon Order it from Barnes Noble But go into your local

book store this is a mission go to your local bookstore and tell him you want the book mark's mission way the warrior kid too tell them you want that that will help spread the word and also while you're helping out warrior kids check out irishoaks ranch dot com where you can get soap made by young aiden who's only 12 years old he's got his own business and the soap isn't just any soap it's good soap and he actually called it jaco soap And the jaco soap motto that I made up. It ain't gets no credit for this. The motto is stay clean.

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Also, don't forget about the discipline equals freedom field manual. This is the manual for getting after it. Thoughts and actions that will keep you off the sloth. slippery slope and to keep you on the path the path of discipline and thereby as the title says the path of freedom if you want the audio version of that it's not on audible it's an album with tracks discipline equals freedom field manual on iTunes Amazon music Google play that's where you can get it and also extreme ownership combat leadership broken down into pragmatic strategies and tactics that you can apply to your business and life boom still on the amazon bestseller list

still on wall street journal keeping it real and if you want or you need to take it to the next level echelon front is my leadership and management consulting company the overwhelming factor in the success of any business or team is leadership that's what it is and at echelon front we come to your company and train and align your leadership so that you work effectively together as a team to dominate your battlefield. It's me. It's my brother Laif Babin, J.P. Denele, Dave Burke. You can email info at echelonfront.com or visit the website, echelonfront.com.

And of course, the muster is our leadership seminar. We're only doing two this year. Washington, D.C., May 17th and 18th in San Francisco. 17th the DC muster is two-thirds sold out right now two-thirds sold out and it's gonna sell out soon The SF muster is in October and it's already a third sold out So both of them are absolutely going to sell out we can't expand the spaces anymore we packed as many chairs is there in there as we can and desks So you we can't fit any more people so if you want to come get registered now at extreme ownership.com the entire echelon front team will be there all of us including Echo Charles

And by the way There's no green room We won't be backstage Getting our Getting our scalps massage No, we will be out front We'll be kicking it with you interacting Answering questions

Talking, eating Working out Hanging out Just basically getting after it with you So come and get it at the muster Get registered as quick as you can And until we do the muster If you have questions

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Echo is at Echo Charles and I am at Jocka Willink. And thanks to you all for listening to the podcast, especially those of you in uniform who took an oath to protect this country and you stand by that oath literally around the world on the front lines and to the police and law enforcement and firefighters and paramedics and all the first responders that are always

on call to help us when the chips are down and that are ready to make that sacrifice like so many did on September 11th. Thank you for what you do. and let's remember and give thanks to the people every day like Jeremy Glick who stood up along with the other members of Flight 93 they stood up and fought when the time called for it and let us all be prepared to do the same to stand up and fight if we need to to be prepared to face evil by staying on the path, by knowing what your principles are and sticking to them. Be vigilant.

Pay attention. Pay attention to the little things, the little decisions, the decisions that pull you off the path and onto that slippery slope with bad habits that will let you down at the moment of truth. watch out for those little decisions instead stay on the path the path of discipline the path that leads to security and strength and of course to freedom and that's the path of getting after it so until next time this is echo and jocco out