Jocko Podcast - 178: The Power and Cost of Extreme Obedience. The Code of The Kamikaze Pilot.

Episode Date: May 22, 2019

0:00:00 - Opening: Letters from Kamikaze pilots / The Code. 1:05:45 - Final thoughts and take-aways.   1:27:56 - Support: How to stay on THE PATH.   1:48:18 - Closing Gratitude.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

This is Jocco podcast number 178 with Echo Charles and me Jocco Willink. Good evening, Echo. Good evening. Honorable mother and father. The difficulty of the journey you made to see me was clearly evident in your dishevelled hair and in the hollows under your eyes. It made me want to bend my knees and worship before you. In the wrinkles on your brows was vivid test.

of the pains you took to raise me words could not express my feelings and what little I did say was superficial in the extreme Yet although acutely conscious of how little time we had I saw in your eyes and in your gaze all you wanted to say But couldn't when you took my hand I experienced a sense of profound peacefulness unlike anything I've experienced since joining up like being a baby again and longing for the warmth of a mother's love. It is because I bask in the beauty of your deep devotion that I can martyr myself for you. For in death I will sleep in the world of your love. Honorable mother.

Even if I was never able to fully accept the love you gave me, I received so much wisdom from you. and Father, your silent words are carved deeply into my heart. With this, I will be able to fight together with both of you. Even if I should die, it will be with a peaceful spirit. I mean this with all my heart. The war zone is where these beautiful emotions are put to the test. If death means a return to this world of love,

there is no need for me to fear there is nothing left to do but press on then fulfill my duty and that is the final letter written by a man named captain adachi takoya was written obviously to his parents and he was assigned to kamikaze special attack group number one and he did kill his mission a suicide attack on one of the US Navy vessels in the vicinity of Okinawa on the 28th of April 1945 he was 23 years old which is actually pretty old for a kamikaze here's another last letter home this one's from ensign Kiyoshi Agawa father and mother it has been decided that I I also will make a sortie as a proud special attack core member.

Looking back when I think of your raising me in your arms for more than 20 years, I am filled with a sense of gratitude. I truly believe that no one else has lived a happier life than me, and I am resolved to repay the Emperor and my father for your kindness. Beyond those boundless white clouds, I will make my attack with a calm feeling. Not even thoughts of life and death will come to my mind. A person dies once.

It will be an honorable day to live for the eternal cause. Father and mother, please be glad for me. Above all, Mother, please take care of your health. And I wish for everyone's prosperity. Father and mother, I always and forever will be living near you and will be praying. I will go smiling Both on the day of my sortie and forever Ogaawa was the pilot of the second plane

To hit the USS Bunker Hill And that kamikaze attack killed 393 and wounded 264 And took the aircraft carrier out of commission For the duration of the war Most of the Kamakazis were young. They were sometimes 17, but usually 18, 19, maybe 20 years old.

They all wrote final letters home. The letters generally spoke of their commitment to the emperor, their commitment to the Japan, their commitment to their parents. And it's actually there's, there's a lot of these letters. There's thousands of them. And it's actually when you sit there and read them, it's actually kind of sickening to read these letters. These young boys, they're brainwashed.

And I know some people find some level of honor in the kamikaze pilots. You know, they sacrificed for their country. They put service above themselves for their emperor. I have a hard time with that. These are kids. These are pawns and actually they weren't even that effective They had a hit ratio of about 14% They there was 2,800

Kamakazi pilots that were killed and they killed about 4,900 Sailors US Navy sailors and God bless all those brave sailors every one of those losses and deaths is a tragedy and And the U.S. Navy in World War II and the Navy in general in World War II was a nightmare. The kamikaze sank 34 ships, which is horrible, but it actually wasn't a game changer. But these suicide bombers, you know, you got to think about how they ended up in that situation. And I don't like suicide bombers at all.

and I guess I have a biased against suicide bombers fine there was a lot of suicide bombers in Ramadi and some people like I said some people try and glorify a suicide bomber whether it's a kamikaze or whether it's a modern day suicide bomber and they try and glorify them but there's no glory the modern suicide bombers are either cowards that are afraid to face their enemies in battle. And what's really sad is that's, that's rare, more than likely, the modern suicide bomber that you're dealing with is an actual victim himself, who is, you know, usually a young kid, been manipulated and lied to and, and or, or I should say also coerced through threats. And that's, that happened all the time. It was like, hey, if you don't carry out this suicide mission, we're going to kill your family.

And so you might as well, you might as well do it. So that's what you're dealing with. But some of them, you know, sometimes people just get straight up brainwashed. And it's the same thing with the Japanese kamikazis. I would say a lot less on the coercion side. You know, it wasn't like they were holding their family, but they did a great job of brainwashing this. These kids. And I'm no expert.

I should have said that straight out of the gate. I'm just giving you my opinion, my thoughts about it. There's some Japanese documents that I think paint a pretty clear picture of kind of the foundation of what the Japanese military was taught. and it's why they were why they fought to the death and there's a lot of propaganda that you can look at too the propaganda that you know explains americans as these evil people that were going to come and rape their women and it was better to die so there's that but there's there's a more foundational thing i think um that that was printed in world war two and it was called the imperial rescript to soldiers and sailors sailors and a rescript is like an official guidance

it's like this is the word from the boss and it included in it something called the Sengikin which which meant instructions for the battlefield and what's weird about this document is it's got a lot of really a lot of stuff in it that when you hear it sounds for better word it sounds good it's the kind of thing that you think oh wow that's that's that's honorable that's good it's very idealistic and and I think if this document this imperial rescript to soldiers and sailors if it actually would have been followed the a lot of the problems a lot of the atrocities that were committed wouldn't happen because the document as you're going to hear is a is a it's a

a fairly positive document. And I think sometimes people take and they hold up that attitude, that kind of Bushito attitude and hold it up on a pedestal. And like I said, I get it because when you, when you look at it on its own, you think, wow, this is this is a good thing. This is a positive thing. But what you can't forget is that it's this attitude. of this attitude and this culture of extreme obedience, right? Extreme obedience. I talk all the time about how you got to question your leaders, right? And I talk all the time how if you're told to do something that's unethical or illegal or immoral,

it is your obligation and your duty to disobey. So they didn't have that attitude. Their attitude was 100% obedience. They also had the strong attitude of ethnic superiority. So they, the Japanese people thought that their race and their ethnicity was superior to everyone else's. And that attitude led to things like these kamikaze pilots. And it led to atrocities like the Rape and Nang King and like Unit 731. a just horror, horror show atrocities with the darkest evil imaginable.

And podcast 60, Rape a Nang King, Podcast 133, 133, Unit 731. If you listen to those, you don't, you can't listen to those and feel normal when you're done listening to it. You can't. They're disturbing to listen to when you see how evil human. beings can be to other human beings so like I said when you hear this imperial rescript it it sounds positive a lot of it sounds good but it first of all it wasn't followed because some some of the positive parts of the code that they clearly did not listen to and then other parts the code that

are positive, like anything that's positive, if you let it go too far, then it becomes a negative. And that seems to me what happened, at least in some sense, in Imperial Japan. So I think this document kind of reveals how they framed their mindset. And there's, like I said, there's lessons in here to learn and think about things that you can take away that you say, hmm, that's a good policy. But you can also see that when it's taken to the extreme, it becomes the framework for Imperial Japan to become the sadistic evil that they originally believed they were fighting against. So let's get into it, the Imperial re-script to soldiers and sailors. Here we go.

Introduction. The battle is where the Imperial Army, acting under the Imperial Command, displays its true character, conquering. whenever it attacks, winning whenever it engages in combat in order to spread Kodo. And so Kodo is the imperial way. That's what it means. And that's how they describe it. But what's interesting is it literally means like a fragrance, like a smell. So it's like the scent, the spirit, the heartbeat.

So that's what Koto is. They want to spread the Koto far and wise so that the enemy may look up in awe to the august virtues of His Majesty. Those who march to the battlefield, therefore, should endeavor to exalt throughout the world, the glories of the empire by fully realizing what the country stands for and firmly upholding the moral tenets of the Imperial Army. The Imperial rescript to the armed forces is explicit, while regulations and manuals clearly defined conduct and combat and methods of training, conditions in the combat,

zone however tend to cause soldiers to be swayed by immediate events and become forgetful of their duty indeed they should be wary indeed they should be wary there lest they run counter to their duties as soldiers the purpose of this code lies in providing concrete rules of conduct in the light of past experience so that those in the zone of combat may wholly abide by the imperial rescript to enhance the moral virtues of the imperial army. So hey, combat's going to be tough. And you may forget your morals. They're talking about moral virtues. And so we're saying, hey, combat's going to be hard. It's going to be chaotic. And when you get in that tough situation, you may forget your morals.

And so this guide right here is going to help you keep you on track. That's what it's going to do. That's the idea here. Chapter 1. The Empire. Japan is the Kokoku, which means the empire. The Tenu, which is the emperor of Japan, rules over it everlastingly in a line unbroken through the ages as the successor in the high and broad cause established by the imperial ancestor at the time of the founding of the empire.

Imperial benevolence is extended to all. without favor while the imperial virtues enlighten the world the people to handing down from traditions of loyalty filial piety and and valor from generation to generation and enhancing thereby their moral peculiar to the empire have assisted the throne a perfect national unity under the throne which has brought about the present national prosperity. So they go that this, this goes back to like a racial thing, right?

Hey, this is an unbroken, unbroken line of royalty for thousands of years. And, and that's why we're here. And they've been so benevolent. That's why we're living a good life right now. Soldiers on the field should seek to achieve with unshakable determination,

their mission of defending the, Empire by laying to heart the essential character of the national policy. The army under command of the emperor assist in furthering the imperial fortunes by enhancing the glories of the empire through the embodiment of the lofty spirit of valor. This spirit is the basic factor in realizing universal peace. We're fighting for peace over here. That's what we're doing. For does this spirit of justice combined with valor and of the world.

Valor tempered by benevolence in conformity with the imperial wishes. So this is all good, right? That's where we're at. This is all good. This is a benevolent leader. You've got the the spirit of the army is actually just the reflection, the arm of this benevolence that's going to go out and bring the spirit of peace to the world. Valor, but then we get into it a little bit. Valor requires strictness while benevolence must be universal. Should there be an enemy who dares oppose the Imperial Army, the army must resolutely resort to force of arms and deal him a crushing blow. We took a little 180 there, didn't we? Hey, we're all about getting our peace on. But if you oppose, if you dare to oppose the Imperial Army, you're going to get a crushing blow. That's how we're rolling.

However, even though force may compel the enemy to submit, should a lapse of virtue, should elapse in virtue occur by the striking of those who do not resist or by failure to show kindness to those who surrender, it cannot be said that such an army is perfect. So there we got, we got, we're going to take care of the people that, if you surrender, you're good. If you don't resist, you won't be harmed, right? So we're like a benevolent army.

If you stand up to us, we're going to crush you. But if not, it's cool. We're going to take care of you. Here's modest in its strength, unostentatious in its kindness. The Imperial Army becomes an object of admiration when it quietly displays its valor and benevolence. So here we are. You know what's saying here? Got to be humble.

I say that all the time. Got to be humble. That's what they're saying. You got to be modest. You got to quietly display your strength, right? Just be modest. We agree with that the mission of the imperial army lies in making the imperial virtues the objects of universal admiration through the exercise of justice tempered with mercy Obviously the folks in Nan King did not get this message

Discipline and actually they truly didn't because if this didn't this wasn't released when the rape and Nanking took place This hadn't come out yet So they truly did not get the memo of this at that time. Discipline. The essence of discipline in the Imperial army lies in the lofty spirit of complete obedience to his majesty. There you go. The essence of discipline in the Imperial Army lies in the lofty spirit of complete obedience to his majesty. High and low must have deeply engraved in their minds the solemnity of the right of command. those above who should exercise the right in all seriousness while those below should obey the commands in utmost sincerity

essential to victory and requisite for maintaining peace is the condition where in the entire army united in the bonds of absolute loyalty moves as one in response to a command so we're this is where we're getting into it you know even the even the in the u.s. military you got to obey the Lawful orders of the people appointed above you the lawful orders that's the oath that you swear is that you'll obey the lawful orders It doesn't just say obey Especially on the battlefield is the utmost observance of the spirit of obedience necessary the spirit of the soldiers best Exemplified by those who silently do their duty Joyfully braving death in obedience to a command given at a time when they are undergoing

undergoing great hardships there's no more important time that you need to obey then on the battlefield next section unity the army looks up in awe to his majesty as its august head it will be united in compliance with the imperial will as one in spirit and in body and in single-hearted loyalty in keeping with the basic principles of command, an army unit should form a solid yet genial group with its commander as its center. It is essential that each man, high and low, dutifully observing his place, should be determined always to sacrifice himself for the whole in accordance with the intentions of the commander

by reposing every confidence in his comrades and without giving even the slightest thought to personal interest and to life or death. So, hey, I'm a firm believer. In fact, I think that's what makes a good team player is someone that puts the team above themselves. No doubt about it. That's also what makes a good leader. Someone that puts the team's mission

and the people on the team above themselves. That's, I agree with that. I guess we're going a little next level here maybe a little bit yeah you you got to be see there's a here's a difference I think it's in this word determined always to sacrifice for yourself for the whole that's going to the next level right it's not like hey I'm putting the team first it's like my goal is to sacrifice myself for the team that's where I'm heading yeah that's what I'm trying to make happen that's a little different it's a little next level cooperation next section cooperation soldiers not only should be

united in mind in carrying out their tasks but should also display the spirit of cooperation by forgetting themselves for the sake of victory. Every unit should carry out its mission with responsibility upholding its honor, placing confidence in others, and assisting one another, volunteering to face hardships, exerting all its strength and cooperation and fighting valiantly valiantly to achieve its objective. Teamwork. That's what we're saying. We're talking about teamwork. We are going a little next level here because we're talking about forgetting yourselves for the sake of victory That's a that's a little next level

Volunteering to face hardships while everyone does that in the military Exerting strength and cooperation. Yes, everyone does that in the military Fighting valiantly to achieve its objective. Yes, everyone does that in the military But forgetting yourself for the sake of victory that I that's again this is like hey I'm putting the team and the mission above me. I get that. We're not going to forget ourselves, though, right? We're not just, we're not just saying, okay, I don't exist. We're not giving up our personal spirit for the collective spirit.

We're not doing that. Let me just rephrase that. We're not doing that in America. That's not what we're doing. We join together the collective spirit, but we're not giving up ours. Next section, aggressiveness. Can't argue with aggressiveness. Aggressiveness should constantly prevail in combat, which must be carried out with bravery and determination.

When attacking, be determined and positive, always taking the initiative, fighting vigorously and stubbornly, vowing not to cease until the enemy is crushed. I got no issues with that. In defense, always retain the spirit of attack and always maintain freedom of action. Never give up a position, but rather die. in pursuit be thorough and inexorable. So, yep, never give up position. It's better to die. And I think we talked about,

well, we've definitely talked about that on the podcast. Like when is it intelligent to make a tactical retreat? There are times without question. And there's been times throughout history where tactical retreats, giving up positions, has caused victory. the Imperial Japanese Army is not talking about that. They're talking about it's better to die.

Continuing on, act boldly, intent upon victory. Be fearless and calm. Meeting the situation courageously, undergoing hardships with indomitable perseverance so as to overcome all obstacles. Hey, I'm good with that, right? That's what you got to do. Indominable perseverance.

Overcome all obstacles. Good. The next section, conviction to win. Faith is strength. He who has faith in combat is always the victor. The conviction to win grows from constant and rigorous training. Develop the strength to conquer the enemy by every possible effort and by improving every moment. Got no issues with that.

Get better. Yeah. Train hard. Rigorous training is definitely going to get. get you ready for tough situations. You got to have faith in what you're doing for sure. The destiny of the empire rests upon victory or defeat in battle. It's a heavy weight to bear.

Do not give up under any circumstances. Keeping in your mind your responsibility to keep untarnished the glorious history of the Imperial Army with its tradition of invincibility. Yeah, that one's a stretch. we're taking a stretch now because I promise you that no man and no army is invincible so we're getting a little stretch there going a little too deep section chapter two and part one is called piety the gods look upon us from above be worthy of divine protection by being pure in heart, just in action, profound and sincere in your piety, constantly mindful of the loyalty you owe the emperor and of duty to your parents.

So we're talking, that's the first most important thing is your devotion to the emperor. That's the most important thing that we're talking about. And the gods look upon you from above. are related to the emperor the the next section is filial piety so now we're talking about reverence of our parents loyalty and filial piety as one form the law from form the essence of our national morality a loyal subject is always a dutiful son endeavor to manifest the best traditions of our forefathers by bearing in mind the wishes of your parents thereby

fulfilling the sacred duty of a loyal subject on the battlefield. Hey, respect your parents. I can get behind that. Nothing wrong with that. Try and be a good kid. Sure. No objections. Salutes and manners.

The salute is the expression of a sincere feeling of obedience and is also a symbol of unity between those above and those below. Salutes must be strictly executed on the field. If a soldier is filled with a sense of decorum and strict in practicing good manners, it shows that he is a strong warrior. To me, this is weird. It is just weird because salutes, you know, salutes are definitely a time-honored military tradition throughout the world.

And in the U.S. military, you don't salute a lot in the field for sure. In the SEAL teams, you don't salute. I mean, very rarely is not a lot of saluting going on, basically because you're not walking around in uniform all the time. So there's not a lot of saluting going on. But yeah, so there's a lot of different ways to show respect. And saluting is sort of the most visible, I guess, way. But it's just kind of interesting to me that they're so into it.

Let me put it to this way. This is, you know, when you see like a military movie, which I'm sure you've seen some. Yes, sir. When you see like the new guy officer. Right. And he says, hey, you better give me a salute sergeant, right? Yeah. And everyone knows that that guy's not a good leader immediately, right?

Because you don't get all freaked out because someone doesn't salute you the way they should. That's true. So now we have the whole military is acting like that. The whole Japanese military is like, hey, you better salute. That to me is a little bit. And I get it, right? It's the military tradition. It is, it's not a show of obedience.

And as far as I'm concerned, it's a respectful thing. Like, hey, you know, there you are. You're a senior officer or whatever. Boom. You crack the salute. It's all good. Isn't it like a symbol of like just extreme discipline, like, know your place? Like know your role, know your place.

It does, I guess, signify that. But really, it's just about respect as far as I'm concerned. You know, boom, you see someone that's senior to you. Boom, you crack a salute. All good. Right. But let's say like the kind of the functional use of that respect is like, you know, I'm going to come. I'm going to, you know, appear before you kind of thing.

And it's basically recognizing, hey, I'm beneath you. You're above me. You know, this is how we're functioning together right now. Yeah. Yeah. You know, affirm. What do you call? Like a confirmation.

Yeah. Yeah. Of that. There is a. That's there. Yeah. And it's a way. To me, it's all about tradition and respect more than.

anything else. Yeah. You know, um, that's what it is. It's about tradition and respect. You, you know, you see someone that's senior, you know, an officer. If you're an enlisted guy, you salute all the officers, boom, get them up. That's the way it is. But it's, it's, it's, to me, it's not like this crazy thing. Like I never yelled at anyone for not saluting me, right? Yeah. You know, and you probably couldn't find a lot of seals that would, that have done that. Now, could you say that, oh, this, there's, you know, you could see some kid that's being legitimately trying to be disrespectful, right? Yeah. And maybe that person could get tightened up.

Yeah. But. Yeah, like on a few good men, remember? When he's like, hey, whatever happened to saluting an officer when he leaves the room? And then the guy puts his hands in his pocket. Oh, dang. Who puts their hand in the pocket? His name was Dawson.

Dawson. Austin, yeah. And who is he doing that too? Tom Cruise. Oh, dang. Tom Cruise wasn't getting the respect. Correct. So there you go.

Yeah. There you go. Good, good example. Yeah. But see what I'm saying, though. It's like, but what is that respect kind of reflecting, no, overall, functionally. It does seem like that. It's like, okay, knowing your place, I'm here to kind of recognize that, you know,

just in this small detailed way that, that apparently will be unnecessary in certain scenarios. And I guess what you're actually talking about is just good order and discipline. Yeah. Good order and discipline. Yeah. Just like, hey, this is the way it is, you know, we just have this tradition. This is, you know, this is what's happening. Yeah.

Same thing with like polished shoes or, you know, your uniform being squared away. Yeah. Just good order and discipline. Yeah. All. Yeah. Exactly right. So it's like there's no questions.

There's no wiggle room or whatever. Like we're here to do the job like from A to see. Yeah. And I'm just saying you, if you're freaking out about salutes, then, then you probably need to look at some other stuff that's going on around you. You might be freaking. out about the wrong thing is all I'm saying and if you're a good like if you're a good officer it's not like people are trying to avoid saluting you yeah they're they're down they're like

you know hey here's a salute let's do it all right getting back to the book the way of comrades and arms comrades and arms united in life and death for the imperial cause should display full mutual trust should always endeavor to improve each other assist each other in distress and restrain each other against excesses in order that they may jointfully fulfill their duties as soldiers. It's all solid. Hey, we're going to trust each other. We're going to work always to improve each other. We're going to help each other if we got a problem.

These are all fine. All good to go. Initiative. Next section. Initiative in exemplary conduct. This is interesting because we're not just talking about initiative. Because initiative is good. We want people to have initiative.

but this is initiative in exemplary conduct leaders should be zealous in giving a worthy example in everything If there is disorder above those below will be unruly Action is prized on the field leaders should provide an example by acting more courageously than others Yeah, I mean can't can't really argue with those You got to have discipline. You got to have order. You got to set the example. Can't argue with those.

Next, responsibility. Duty is sacred. One's responsibility is extremely heavy. Each and every task must be performed with the utmost care until all available means are exhausted. Those who have a strong sense of responsibility are bravest. of the brave on the field. Okay. Okay. Duty is sacred. You got responsible. You got to be responsible. You got to take care with doing your thing. Can't really argue with that one. Next one. View of life and death. The lofty spirit of self-sacrificing service to the state must prevail in life and in death. Do your duty with heart and soul regardless of life or death. After exerting all your powers, spiritually, and physically, calmly face death, rejoicing in the hope of living in the eternal cause

for which you serve. You see a little kamikaze activity creeping in right there. Honor. Next section. Strong are those who have a keen sense of honor. Meet the expectations of your family and home community by making effort upon effort, always mindful of the honor of your name. If alive, do not suffer the distress.

grace of becoming a prisoner. In death, do not leave behind a name soiled by misdeeds. No surrender. I was reading some, and I forget the facts off the top of my head, but the number of the number of Japanese military that were taken prisoner was like this tiny number. It was like, I don't know, 30, 40, 50,000, something like that. And I say it's a tiny number. when you compare it to the amount of Germans and it, you know, there was millions of Germans

that were, you know, taken prisoner at one point or another. And again, don't quote me on the number, but it's, the disparity is huge. And this is why they were not going to be taken prisoner. Next, simplicity and fortitude. Hey, law of combat. Keep things simple. Fortitude. Yes, you got to have fortitude.

Here we go. Let simplicity guide your daily life on the battlefield. promote habits of fortitude and high morale can't argue with that life on the field must be plain consider privation your daily lot and endeavor to be thrifty luxury saps valor oh I like that there you go luxury saps valor Theo Vaughan are you listening luxury can't have those luxury days too often this is this idea of simplicity of course important and even you know I talk about simplicity from a you know from a from a communications viewpoint and from a planning viewpoint

But in life simplicity is a very positive thing you know you got the the modern day Minimalist movement. Are you familiar with that? Yes Where you don't own anything or as little as you can Yeah the cool one of the coolest things about going on deployment in the dead One of the coolest things about it is you Everyone's a minimalist. It's just you go on deployment. You have like whatever five bags and in the bags you have three pairs of pants.

Two pairs of boots four t-shirts got your weapon got your body armor You like you're it's so awesome and it feels really good when you're able to get away from all that stuff that you got piling up back in your big house with the big closets you got all that stuff in there and all that stuff weighs down on you so when you get to you know tony btf tony well he used to joke about you know when you got like you know you got problems going on you know at home and everyone's just like bothering you and he's like get on a you just get on a c130 everything's fine and I agree with that you would get that feeling of everything's fine you're just hey there's nothing where all you have to worry about is the bad guys right it's

very easy it's very focused you don't have all this other stuff going on and you don't have all this other literal stuff you just got what you need you don't bring if you don't bring it if you don't need it you don't bring it because you don't want this other stuff yeah right so you you keep it Keep it simple is what you keep it and that's what they're saying here and You know of course I doubt I doubt that the emperor was living you know a simple life of privation in the palace, right? But if we can convince all the people If we can convince everyone that they should just be living like in the dirt cool more for me

So there's a little bit of that going on trying to keep the people with the positive mindset even though they don't have anything telling them that you don't want anything because it's going to sap your valor you want to live it lean right yeah luxury saps valor true statement though true statement right what happens to rock and roll bands their valor gets that no they come out with a good album right good hard album and everyone goes yes that's that's a that's a kick ass album and then the next thing you know they're living a life of luxury and their music gets soft and weak yeah maybe it saps their valor saps their grit next up integrity integrity is the foundation of the

spirit of the warrior how can a man who cannot conquer his worldly desires devote his life to the country be austere in your daily behavior dealer deal with matters justly so that you will not be ashamed of your conduct in the sight of God or man. Hey, cool, right? Act, you know, keep control over your desires. Got it. Let that sounds like a good idea. You know, act in such a way that you're, that people, you know, this goes back to the,

hey, imagine you're being at someone's video and you at all times. And then how are you, do you really want to act the way if everyone was watching you all the time? How would you act? You want to make the right decision so you can stand up before other man or God and be like, yep, I'm my actions were fine. So that's what that's what this is saying. Can we argue against that? Not really what was interesting is you read some of those kamikaze letters. A lot of them specifically say there was no I have no I have no woman in my life.

They specifically say that. Like, I've read a bunch of those letters. I don't know how many, but a lot. And there's a decent percentage, I don't know, maybe 10%, which is a lot when you think about it. But a lot of the letters, who knows on the actual percentage. But if you read some of those letters, you'll see these young 18, 19, 20 years old, bragging to their parents, I have no female in my life.

Oh, they say, no positive way. They say the most positive possible way. that I have no, they'll say, you know, I have no need for money or women. They say these things. So they're actually telling their parents, like, I, all I have is you, right? They're more looking to honor their parents than they are looking to have a girlfriend. Which to me is really jacked up. You know, when you're 18 years old, you need to have a girlfriend.

Sure. Am I wrong? You know, to each their own, I guess. Brough, come on. You're 18 years old. An 18 year old needs a girlfriend. Yeah. No.

Not if he's like committed to the cause, you know? I always felt that like, especially at 18 if you're committed to like, I don't know. Well, again, to each their own for sure. But it is not uncommon for an 18 year old dedicated to a. What's the cause? cause, I don't know, whatever, in whatever situation, to get jammed up because they got some girlfriend. Oh, no, that's true. I'm not saying the girlfriends won't jam you up. Oh, yeah. They will. Especially when you're 17, 16, 18, 14, 13, let's face it.

19, 20, 24. It evens out at about 30. Let's face it. Yeah, that's where you get a grip. That's where you get a grip. Probably because of yourself, to be honest with you. Oh, it's 100% because of yourself. It's not the girl. It's you, but yes. So they, you, you, You know, like, I don't know, 18, what do you do at 18? Military, I would imagine. I know in football, it was like that. The girlfriend, you know, it was like getting in the way. Okay, but no girls whatsoever.

Are you talking like abstinence from girls? I'm not saying actual abstinence. Taking it to the next level, echo Charles. No, but I am saying if you're trying to demonstrate or illustrate your loyalty to parents, the cause, whatever, yes. You say like, bro, I don't even, girls don't even like, you know, waver my dedication to the cause, you know, kind of thing. Okay, I get that. I get that that's what this is saying.

Yes. I'm just saying I don't think I necessarily agree with a 19, 18, 18, 20 year old male human, having no female interaction. Yeah. To me, that just sounds like not the best idea. Well, let's put it this. with I agree with you but I agree with this because I feel like that's just what they're saying. No, it's definitely no.

I agree with you. Yeah, I agree with you. And I think what, what hit me weird was the, the kamikaze pilots that are just like so happy that they don't have a girlfriend. I'm thinking, are you really that happy that you don't have a girlfriend? And if you are that happy that you don't have a girlfriend, they kept you in lockdown, right? They kept you in a serious lockdown. Yes. Because do you remember, I mean, when you're a boy, when you're 10 years old, when you're 11 years old, 12 years old, like you're already looking at girls like, oh, I want to hang out with that thing right over there, that girl.

I want to go like talk to that, right? Talk to that thing. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like it's a instinct. Yes. That is fully there as a dude. Right.

But at that point. At that point, I would argue that in most cases, you're not consciously thinking of a meaningful, productive relationship necessarily. You just have a sort of a feeling and a sort of like attraction or draw towards this thing. And that attraction and draw towards this thing will get in the way or at the very least compete. You're right. I get you. I'm saying I hear you. Yes.

You got to be, and definitely, if you're 17 years old, you've got to be careful that the girls don't. pull you off track. Yeah. And by the way, I'm saying this in one direction. Same thing, opposite direction. I guess I should have said that. But what do you mean opposite direction? Girls will get pulled off track by boys.

Oh, yes. You know, so I guess what we're talking about is getting the relationship going. Yeah. Okay. I agree with you. If you are fully committed to the cause, one thing that could fall away from your commitment would be, look, I'm not even, I don't even care about girls. That's where I'm at.

Okay. I get you. I'll give it to you. Actually, you kind of have to because you were like that. Even when you said when you were overseas, you didn't like, you know, you didn't want to think about your family. You didn't want to do that. So what would have even made it better technically in this specific way is to not even have a family, not even to have a girlfriend, not even have a wife. You know.

Exactly right. So, yeah, so that's what they're going to say, you know. Yeah. No, that's the ultimate commitment. You are correct. I don't agree with it, though. Well, ironically, I don't agree with it. Yeah.

You're just, well, you, so you see their point. Yes, sir. And I see their point. And that's why I kind of lived that way when I was overseas. Hey, I don't want to look at pictures of my wife and kids while I'm here. I want to focus on the mission at hand. But that's a lot different than coming home and saying, oh, I don't want to, I don't want to have any female in my life. Yeah.

It's a lot different. Yeah. Or if you're a female saying, look, I don't, I don't want to be focused on. I guess, I guess that happens, you know, on the other way, too. Yeah, fully. A female that's committed to her career, so she doesn't want to have kids. She doesn't want to get married because she's focused on the career. Yeah.

Yeah, which is actually cool, but it is an extreme way to get down. All right. Well, I don't believe there's any conduct that you need to be ashamed of if you have a girlfriend is what I'm saying. There you go. All right. Chapter 3. Council Concerning Field Service. a moment's negligence may result in an unexpected catastrophe.

Be constantly on your guard. Do not despise your enemy or the natives. Do not be negligent after a small success. Okay, let's just go through this little bit. Okay, so a moment's negligence may result in an unexpected catastrophe. That's a great point. Pay attention. Be constantly on your guard.

Great point. Pay attention. Do not despise. your enemy or the natives. Great point, right? We're going to go fight with honor and we're not going to abuse the natives. Do not be negligent after a small success. Great point.

That's when you're going to get arrogant and your ego gets out of control and you get caught. Know that carelessness brings disaster. Great point. So there you go. That's just opening up. Here's how we roll. I wonder if this document was written. like as a reaction to NAN King.

I wonder if they said, look, we let that happen, we gotta tighten up. I wonder if they actually did that. The US military does that kind of thing. Like something will go, hey, the prisoner abuse happened in Abu Ghraib. They made all kinds of rules and regulations about what you do with prisoners after that.

I wonder if this is the same kind of thing. They try to tighten them up. Century duty is important. Upon the century rest the safety of an army. He also represents the discipline of an army. Those on century duty must devote their entire person to the task which must be sternly carried out accord the century high respect cool got to be on guard next ideological warfare is an important phase in modern conflict destroy propaganda and fabrications of the enemy by your unshakable

faith in the cause for which the empire stands and endeavor to spread Kodo, which again, that's the spirit of the empire. So they're telling you to watch out for the enemy propaganda. And how you overcome it is by having unshakable faith. Next up, rumors arise from a lack of confidence. Do not be misled. Do not be agitated by them. Firmly believe in the strength of the Imperial Army and deeply trust your superiors.

Hmm. Deeply trust your superiors. There's no be wise on the end of that. I noticed like the American manual said said trust your spirits but be wise also rumors arise from a lack of confidence I disagree with that I think rumors arise from lack of knowledge and lack of hearing the truth because the way you overcome rumors is to tell people the truth that's how you stop rumors tell people the truth not number six be mindful to protect enemy property and resources requisitions seizures

and destruction of goods and similar actions must be executed in keeping with the regulations and always under the orders of your commanding officer. This is incredible. They're literally saying, hey, you know, when you defeat someone, you've got enemy property, you need to treat it well, you can't seize it, you can't destroy it. There you go. This is like guidance. Seven, be gentle and protect innocent inhabitants in the spirit of benevolence in accordance with

the true ideal of the imperial army. Like I said, maybe this is a reaction to what happened in Nanking because there was no being gentle and no protecting the innocent there. It was a complete opposite. Number eight, those on the field must not indulge in wine and women or allow desire to be clouded their consciences, thereby damaging the prestige of the imperial army and causing the dissipation of a body dedicated to service. so that one is written for echo Charles No wine no women Those are just gonna just gonna jam you up They will

Concur Okay They should exercise self-control Lest they besmirch The pure character of warriors Nine control your anger Good to go And suppress your grudges

The ancient said consider anger your enemy A moment of violence often leaves cause for a long regret. It's great advice. Control your anger. Control your emotions. The severity of military law is designed especially to uphold the good name of soldiers and to preserve the dignity of the Imperial Army.

Always remember the oath that you made and the deep emotion that you felt when you left home. Call to mind how your parents, your wife, and your children think of you. And avoid exposing yourself to crime. Good guidance. Two, achievement. Achievements of soldiers in service. Foster the tradition of respecting martial attainments.

Cultivate and train the warriors, virtues, and arts. Remember that do not allow yourself to become bored, is the saying of an ancient general. So, hey, look, we're telling people to train. Train warrior arts. Train the virtues of the warriors. This is all good stuff. And remember that to do. Don't allow yourself to become bored.

When's the last time you were bored? I don't remember, yes. Yeah, I'm not really one getting bored over here on my side either. Next, do not allow yourself to worry about the fate of those at home in the event of your death, but devote yourself wholly to service. Be always ready to meet death without regret by settling your affairs beforehand. A soldier is always prepared to expose his corpse on the battlefield. Let his family know that at times, even his actions.

may not reach them so there's you know again there's some kamikaze attitude sneaking in there that you you may have to lay it all down next the there is nothing more to be regretted than to fall victim to a disease on the field be particularly mindful of your health so that you may not be unable to serve because of excesses so you got to keep track your health don't get sick lay to heart the saying of an ancient warrior my sword is my soul my horse is my fortune always take care of your arms and supplies and give humane attention to animals on the field solid take care of your gear and your gear will take care of you have you ever heard that before yes for me okay that's a good one

yeah it's a true one seems true yeah virtue in the battle zone is the source of strength in combat always consider the interests of other units and do not monopolize billets and materials remember the saying a bird taking flight does not muddy the water let the good reputation of the valorous imperial army long remain the cause of fond recollections in an alien land so there you go they're telling everyone to you know have be virtuous in the in the combat zone bird in flight does not muddy the water. I think it just means as you elevate,

then you're not, you know, you don't need to get mad because it's not muddying the water. It's good. You're moving forward. Yeah. Could be wrong. Very obscure. A bird taking flight does not muddy the water. Let the good reputation

of the valorous Imperial Army long remain the cause of fond recollections in an alien land. Yeah, I think that's what it means. Like, hey, this is a very good reputation. We're elevated. Hey, we're in this land. We're here. We invaded.

But we're not going to muddy the water. We're in flight. Next, do not boast of one's achievements, but give others credit. But to give others credit is one of the most respected traditions among warriors. This is straight out of extreme ownership, straight out of the dichotomy of leadership. No, you don't, you don't boast of achievements. You give your credit to your team. Do not begrudge others their promotion or cherish resentment because your services are not recognized, but instead reflect upon your own shortcomings.

This is this is solid. That's solid advice, right? Oh, you got promoted. I didn't. I'm just going to get mad at you. No. Instead, I should look at myself and say, okay, what did that go do that I didn't do? What could I do better?

What are my shortcomings? Next. Be honest always. Consider exaggerations and lies dishonorable. Cool. We're 100% on board with that. Always bear yourself as a member of a great nation, treading the path of righteousness and seeking justice

so that you may enhance the prestige of the empire. Totally positive. The SEAL teams for a little while, they were trying to, it was something along the lines of, I will not dishonor my team, my unit, my Navy, or my nation. This is the same exact thing they've got written right there.

You know, you want to make the, the empire look good. You want to damage the reputation. Next. Also, do not show a lack of consideration for international courtesies. Think about that. Hey, when you go to another country, hey, don't, don't, you know, taking consideration there, they're customs and courtesies.

That's a good thing to do. And the last one from this section, should you receive the order to return home alive after braving, thousand deaths think of those brave souls who will not return be determined to become an example to the people by being careful in word and deed renewing your vows to serve the country nothing wrong with that and then this is how this thing ends the conclusion the conclusion is above all the above originate from and end in the Imperial rescript let them serve as a guide in putting into practice this battlefield

morality so that all may be perfect in obeying the Imperial commands soldiers and officers on the field lay heart lay to heart the import of the above by fully realizing the significance of real service to the state in order that you may carry out your duty as soldiers thus responding to the boundless imperial benevolence. So like I said, there's parts of that document that you can't really argue with. And it's a powerful document. It's a powerful code.

And that document obviously helped guide the actions of the military in Japan and of the nation of Japan. who were highly committed to this cause, completely committed to this cause. I got one more letter from a kamikaze. Dear mother and father, now it has been decided that I will participate in a sortie as a member of the kamikaze special attack corps squadron. I am deeply satisfied that nothing will surpass this as the long, cherished desire of a military man to die in attacking an enemy ship together with his aircraft. When I think of my 23 years of life, I've not been able to repay anything for your kindness. However, with a smile, please forgive me from the beginning I offered myself for the country. The war is plunging into an increasingly critical period.

But I believe in victory for the empire. I believe others will follow after me. Smiling, I will make a body crashing attack against an enemy ship. I am resolved that I will repay a 10,000th of the emperor's kindness. I have not been as thankful as today to be born a Japanese person. I, thy humble subject, live not in vain, having seen both heaven and earth prosper in this glorious age of vine. This is an old poem, and it is my state of mind. please give regards to my teachers at elementary school, junior high school, and teachers in college, all of the relatives and the villagers.

Finally, I am praying for the welfare of everyone in the family, bravely, I will fall knowing the way of samurai for the emperor who gave blessings. Naval Ensign Shijio Kaida, that's 1245. April 6th, 1945, and Sincayida took off from Kushira Air Base and carried out his suicide attack off the coast of Okinawa. And when you hear this code, and when you hear these letters, you have to think to yourself,

who could defeat an enemy that is that determined? and what warrior culture could have the values and the courage to contend with and to actually defeat a people possessed with such willingness to make sacrifices, such willingness to die for their cause. That's what you have to ask yourself. That's what I ask myself is what people could oppose

and fight against, this this warrior breed in the answer to that question and this isn't this isn't a theoretical answer but it's a factual answer the warrior culture that faced and defeated this fanatic society was the united states of america of warriors from the army navy navy air force and marines the American warrior culture. The American warrior culture is what went from island to island and beachhead to beachhead and pillbox to pillbox fighting and sacrificing. Not only with a willingness to die, which they certainly had, but with a stronger

willingness to live, to live. and not to live a life of subservience and obedience, but a life of something much more powerful than all of that, a life of freedom. The culture of individual freedom has proven out to be the most powerful force in the world. For us to be able to protect that freedom, what we do is we voluntarily impose discipline on ourselves. And we have the things that this book talked about.

We have conviction to win. We believe in loyalty and responsibility. We live with honor and valor and we work together to protect each other But we don't do that because we're mandated to do that so we can defend our way of life Sacrifices to preserve our culture Because our way of life offers something is the apex of human existence We win We don't fight for glory. We don't fight for personal gain. We don't fight to impose our will onto others,

but we fight for freedom. Freedom itself. That is our ideal. That is our standard. We'll never, ever surrender that ideal is our out for. Tonight. Echo Charles. Yeah, it's good.

We are. Trying to maintain our freedom. Yes. In order to do that, we all know that we have to, you know, impose some discipline on ourselves. Yes, sir. That means putting in the work means trying to get better. Sure.

I know you got some things that might help us as we had down that path. Yeah, very much, though. But the imperial, the emperor kind of seems like, like that's the part that kind of jammed everything up. Like this whole code. Like the whole, what is this like manual called? The imperial rescript. Yeah.

For soldiers and sailors. Yeah. It's like, man, this is all good. This is all good. Except that one spot where they were like, yeah, the emperor is like a line of kind of as if to say, okay. And but at the end of the day, like you got to listen to this like one. Whereas at the end of the day, what we do is it.

individual freedom. Yeah. For nobody else. Yeah. Like we're collectively protecting this freedom that we have. And we do that together. But once we have that freedom, it's not about for someone else. It's for it's for the individual.

Yeah. It's for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That's what we're doing over here. That's what the, that's what Western culture is about. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, the fact that you have all this code written and everything, right? You have these people.

the Bushito mindset and all that but like the Marines are going on to the beach at Guadalcanal. Yeah. That's what's going to happen. Yeah. And and and and going into a fortified island you're at a complete disadvantage. Don't don't don't don't let anyone forget that. Yeah. When you're going again when you're on the offense against a defensive position, you are at a complete disadvantage. That's the way it is. Yeah. And so this this warrior culture that sometimes we put up on a pedestal because it sounds cool. It sounds cool.

The imperial rescript sounds cool when you put this code out, right? But what you what you just said is correct when that code is not based and not the foundation of it isn't freedom. And it doesn't turn out good. Yeah. And it's essentially like it sounds cool because, you know, how you, it kind of ties into it. Okay, so discipline equals freedom. We'll say, right? We'll start with that.

We can say that. So discipline sounds cool. Yep. And equals freedom. That whole thing sounds cool, whatever. So this Bushito thing kind of just seems like just the discipline part. So, of course, that part of it sounds cool. But when you look at big picture, you know how not cool that is?

Yeah. Like, especially like to have to bow down to like, group of people. That's the way it is, man. You know? Yeah, so you step back, you look at that, you're like, man, this isn't cool. Actually, this is like kind of bad, especially when you get corruption. For sure.

Which is kind of, it's one of the, I forget the saying, but it's like absolute power is absolute corruption. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Yeah, yeah. So, man, so you kind of consider that and that's a big picture thing too. Because no one just comes out about it. I mean, I was going to say no one comes out of. they get corrupt, but that's not true either.

But when you can have something like this where it's like, hey, the emperor, they're, you know, they're benevolent, they're divine, you know, all this stuff or whatever. And it's like, yeah, okay, that sounds cool. But man, after a while big picture, you're like, you know, damn well, you're not divine. You're just a person and that whole absolute power. Crops absolutely is like, that's a very high likelihood and all this stuff. So given that, that they can just say whatever they want, they can be like, hey, I don't 18 year old kid out of high school or whatever.

oh yeah we need we need to use you as a bullet that's really what they're doing especially like the numbers the numbers are like bro you killed one Japanese person for like every one point something other person like enemy so it's like bad two bullets are worth more than you really in a way you know and some like person can just sort of make that determination with your whole life bro i don't know man that doesn't sound good yeah and that's that's why this whole this whole thing this it just boils down to it just boils down to and it's such an overused word man it boils down to freedom

that's what it boils down to yeah like when you are a man and you're from Iowa and you're in the Marine Corps and you're going on to that beach your will as a free man is stronger than the will of this guy

over on the other side that is not truly free yeah And that right there, that's the, that's the crazy thing about this, is you can take this, this entire warrior culture where these people are born and raised and taught this. And you've seen, you know, there's training videos for the Coma Connozies, but even just the, just the militant life that these, the militaristic life that they led. And meanwhile, you take someone that was a show. shoe cobbler in Boston, and you take another guy that was a farmer in Iowa, and you take another guy that worked on the railroad in California, and you put them together in a foxhole, and their

will to fight as free men is stronger than someone that was raised since birth to be a warrior. freedom and the individual human will to do what you want to do with your life is such is the most powerful force and it gets left it gets left behind and if you leave you behind you might win for a little while but you're not going to win in the long run and that's the that's the force if you take that to a personal level that's the force that you can use to drive discipline in your life because you want you you you don't impose discipline on yourself for for the sake of discipline yeah that's going to be you can you can do that today you can do that tomorrow you can do that next week but you can't do that for two years three years you need it needs to be

the foundation of the discipline needs to be the desire for freedom that's what it has to be rooted in At least that's for me. For me, that's what it's rooted in. Yeah. And like, okay, discipline for the sake of discipline. That sounds cool. Yeah. Right.

Sounds awesome. Dig into it a little bit. Right. Not big picture. Dig into it a little bit. And what do you find? It's got to be discipline for freedom. And it's functional on the battlefield.

And it's functional in your life. You know, it's the same thing. Same thing with the Nazis. The Nazis were a martial culture. You know, that's what they were. But they were subservient to the furor. And guess what happens when you take, guess what happens when you take a kid from North Carolina and you take another kid from Florida and you take another kid from Tennessee and you take another kid from Tennessee and you take. take those kids, they're not professional soldiers. They're going to go to boot camp. They're going to get trained in whatever they're going to get trained in. They're not Hitler youth raised to fight. You ever seen little Hitler youth training with weapons when they're 12 years old? Like, meanwhile, this kid was in Tennessee working on a farm. This other kid was in Brooklyn, working in a pizza shop, working in a restaurant, whatever. So you take these folks that are fighting

for the furor and you put them up against someone that's a group of people that are fighting for freedom and freedom's going to win. I think you're right about that. Yeah, it's interesting. Yep. Like the freedom to do jiu-jitsu, by the way,

and the freedom to get any kind of ghee you want, but you're going to get the best ghee, that's what I'm saying. That almost qualified as a rough transition right there. Well, I'm just saying that's the first thing that came to mind at that point when you said that. Nonetheless, anyway, we're on the path.

Yes, discipline. The path is the path of discipline that ends in, not ends in, but results in freedom. Yeah. So on this path, many activities, many things to do and to not do, by the way. You know what you were talking about earlier with like the salute thing? Let's look at that for a second, right? If I'm a guy that's like, has an attitude, like, I'm not saluting anyone. Yeah.

I'm not disciplining myself. Well, guess what? Then I'm not going to do anything in the military. I'm going to get kicked out of the military, actually. I'm going to lose the freedom to serve. Whereas if you discipline yourself, like, hey, I'm going to show respect to the people that are above me in the chain of command. I'm going to do a good job. I'm going to discipline myself.

Guess what? It's ridiculous. This is going to sound so ridiculous. For the most part, I could pretty much do whatever I wanted to when I was in the military. As crazy as that sounds. As crazy as that sounds. My bosses always gave me what I wanted. My, I just kind of do what I wanted to do.

It was crazy. It was crazy. When I look back on it now and my bosses would give me what I want and help me and support me. Why did they do that? They didn't do it because I was manipulating. They did it because I was working hard and supporting what they wanted to get done. And it's like a positive thing. It's not negative at all.

It's like, it was awesome. But if you and if you have that attitude in life like hey, I'm going to work hard. I'm going to, I'm going to discipline myself. I'm going to submit in situations that require it. I'm going to subordinate my ego in situations that require it now so that in the long run, I can get the freedom. So often people, they don't want to, they want the freedom right now. Freedom isn't gonna come right now.

You don't get it. You have to work for it. You have to fight for it. You have to impose discipline on your life so that you can end up with it. You have to work hard. You know, you have to work hard to get to a point when you get the freedom. But if you don't work hard, you won't end up with it. You just won't.

You'll always end up being a slave to your paycheck. You'll be a slave to your your jacked up friends. You'll be a slave to the manipulative partner you chose. You know, you'll be a slave if you don't put discipline in your world. Be a slave to drugs. You'd be a slave to drugs. You'd be a slave to alcohol. You can be a slave to food.

You can be a slave to doctors. Yeah, you can be slave to all these things. So it's just you've got to think about freedom. You've got to have that in the back of your mind. but you can't, you can't live your life thinking that it's going to be given to you. Oh, free. No, it's not. Freedom isn't free, as they say.

As they say. Freedom isn't free in a country. And freedom certainly isn't free in your own personal life. It's not free. Oh, no. Yeah, like we, and we talked about this early on where you're going to have to pay the price, you know. Yeah. When, you know, pay now, pay later, whatever.

You say. So the whole pay now. I think that's the way to go. Paying now is definitely the way to go. Yeah. Yeah, you always got to pay. And it's a constant thing. And that part can kind of be intimidating, you know, where it's like, like, let's say, you know, the real obvious ones, like eating correctly and exercising.

Right. Like that's. Well, what's good about those is they, the, their physical activities that have physical visible manifestations, right? If you eat like crap, you're going to feel like crap. you're going to look like crap, you're going to perform like crap. Yeah. If you are inactive, you're going to move like crap. You're going to be sick.

So, yeah, those are real clear examples. So it's like so clear where you can be like, okay, I'm going to pay now, right? How am I going to pay now and what price am I going to pay now? And that's with like, yeah, not eating things that you're so physically compelled to eat for the most part. exercising which can be a pain literally and so you know no one most of the time you don't like want to exit like that's not a natural thing

I think to like I would say that's true I would say actually you're right I would say that you're right to the point where a normal human being is genetically programmed if they can conserve energy then you want to conserve energy right because otherwise if you didn't have that instinct you would waste all your energy as a caveman and you would die right because you'd starve to death So no, I think we're genetically programmed to lean towards less activity. Energy conservation is what we're probably genetically programmed to do.

Yeah, yeah, genetically. Now, I get it if you're sitting in an office all day and then you're like, man, can't wait to go for a run tonight. Yeah, of course. Yeah. You can sit in an office all day. So there's got to be some instinct to do that as well. Yeah, but most time, too, though, if you're going to go for a run or go lift or something,

Like you're already familiar with like the payoff of that. Yeah. You know, no one, I mean, it's pretty rare. Maybe if you want to go play in the pool or something, I guess, but that's different. Like no one's just genetically yearning to go do a Metcon or something or run like a marathon or something like that. Well, that's why I kind of threw that out there a little bit because sometimes if you, for me. Yeah. Like sometimes you know, but for real, right?

Let's say you couldn't work out for two days. Do you have like a little like thing that's man I can't wait to get there in jerks of steel? Yeah big time. But then so there's right. But that's for someone who are you You're connecting that payoff. Okay. I got it and it's like it and it goes through and we talked about this too where that's kind of the good. Sometimes you just don't you just go get some though yes, but only for the payoff? Sometimes I like to get some just to get some I know because you're you well And that's like I was like I was going to say that that's like one of the benefits of work and this we're just talking about working out but this goes for kind of everything

where if you familiarize yourself over the years of the payoff like your body kind of accommodates that like your body's like if you don't work well you get endorphins and you get addicted to it yeah right and that becomes how you're talking about yeah that becomes how you work so but let's say like okay let's say I'm I don't know 35 years old

will say I've never really worked out ever right just live a normal life or whatever I just never really worked out never like lifted weights never like went for runs you'll have less of a desire than someone that's been working out their whole life. Try go workout for the first time, a hard one. Do one of Jocco's workouts.

You'd be like, I don't want to do this. I don't want to do this. You're going to be thinking that while you're doing it and the next day when you're all sore, you're going to be like, I don't want to do that ever again, actually.

So it's different. But if you're you or someone who's like, you know, an athlete all their life or something like that, someone who reap the benefits, they know they're familiar with the payoff. Yes, when you don't work out for one day,

two days, you know, is yeah, you're gonna be like, your body's gonna be like, hey, like we need that workout now kind of thing. For short term, short term payoff, we need that workout. So again, the benefit of getting into working on a regular basis,

you get short-term and long-term payoff. And that's how the path is, by the way. Anyway, same thing for Jiu-Zitsu. It's a big one. If you take off, like, you've been out of Jiu-Jitsu for a little bit because you're need. You're hurting right now.

Hating it. Yeah, man. I just walked out to the gym. I kind of looked at the gym. the maths I got all excited. Yeah. You should be back. I'll be back in a week.

Back on the, well, no, sorry, two weeks. I'll be back on the mats of justice. Boom, there it is. So while you're doing Jiu-Sit, if you haven't started J-J-Jitsu, if you haven't, like, because you know there's a number of people

who are like, hey, I hear good things. I'm on the fence. You know, they just haven't made the plunge. They haven't taken the step to even just try it because usually places you go, they'll give you, it's free. Yeah. You try for free.

Try it for free. Yeah. That's, which tells you. you that Jiu Jitsu is good because they don't say hey try this for free they don't try and get your money oh yeah it's like come on in yeah it's like giving away free crack at the school yard but it's the good guy though yeah except for it's crack that makes you like a better human being that's basically what jihitsu is yes it's like a it's like an addictive drug that makes you better stronger smarter faster more calm more patient just a better person

There brings more to your perspective. That's for sure. Opens up your perspective. Big time. Yeah. So there's people, if what you're saying is correct, and there's someone right now that's on the fence,

should I or should I not? Maybe I should. Maybe I won't like it. I don't know. It's sweaty dudes. I don't, just go train. Go for free. Yes.

Yeah, go for free. Just try the one day. You can even, I would even say go try the one day with it. I mean, I would never recommend having a defensive attitude towards it. I would never recommend that. But, bro, it's better than not going to know.

Give yourself an attitude of like, hey, if you don't like it, go prove that it sucks. Yes. Okay. Exactly right. Prove that it sucks. Yes, exactly right. But when you fail to prove that it sucks. And you realize that it is awesome.

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If you are working out all the time, you're going to need some joint warfare. Joint warfare helps your joints. Krill oil also help your joints. And actually both those things also help your just overall life. Yes. Get on those. Discipline and discipline go. Discipline is, for me, it's a pre-mission situation.

It's not, but don't get it confused with the traditional pre-workout stimulant. That gets you all amped up. I was reading someone saying, oh, I don't want to take a pre-workout before jujitsu. Correct. That's a pre-workout. And I don't recommend taking a pre-workout. a pre-workout before jihitsu. This has 15 milligrams of caffeine

because that's what people worry about. My heart's going to be pumping. Right. No, this is going to get you cognitively and physically ready to rock and roll. That's what's been primed. And discipline go, which is the pill form. When you need, when you need, imagine, okay,

you know what you feel like when you're in the zone, right? Just imagine you could get in the zone like basically on demand. Sure. That's what's happening here with Discipline Go. You can feel it and it gets you in the zone.

It's, you know what trips me out is I'll take Discipline I'll go in to, you know, speak with the company. I'm going to be sitting down. There's 20 like smart leaders

in a room from a company. They got a lot of stuff going on, big company. And I go in and I've got, I've got to be honest, I'm like juiced up on like three disc and go. Yeah. So you're ready to go.

So I'm ready rock and I'm, I'm just feeling great, right? And I get out of there and I'm like thinking myself, I'm like, you know, I should have recorded that. No, I'm not kidding. There's times where I go to, I work with a client and I think, man, I should have recorded that. I even do phone calls sometimes with clients.

I'm like, I should have just recorded my end. Sure. Because I'm telling people, really important things about planning, about leadership, about decision making. And it's getting lost. I mean, I told 20 people. What about everyone else?

I'm thinking to myself. And I come out of there and I think to myself, I'm like, I was just in the zone. I wonder what happened. I'm like, oh, I took three discipline goes and I'm ready to rock and roll. That's what happened. So anyways.

That's funny. That sounds like you're like, all freaking, like prod yourself. Like, oh my gosh. Yeah, I know. I'm so good at what I do. And I felt like I cheated. But, well, it actually makes sense, though.

You know how you say when you're in the zone, right? And you say, you know, like, I don't know, even like in my case, like, you're from my friend who asks me like a question. And then I'll be like, wait. And I'll kind of cover like all the aspects of the question like all fluidly. And I'm like, dang, I kind of said that kind of good right there. Not that I'm a great speaker, nothing like that. But I'm just saying, given the question he asked at a certain time and the way I answered, I really feel good about it. I really feel good about it.

That's kind of like what you get into. You know like if you take the discipline it's like it's just you just kind of flow with it kind of like surfing or something I started to get a little like is it possible to become addicted To that feeling well it depends on what kind of quote unquote Addiction you're talking about because there's psychological addiction yeah yeah yeah like that's a thing But so yeah anyways that's the discipline and that's the discipline go And then we got we got some Mulk and you know what Mulk is sure yeah it's MOLC yeah it's Yeah Happens to have 22 grams of protein. Yeah, yeah by the way and by the way

Mint is my favorite kind of flavor overall in the world And I have not had mint since I got strawberry at my house. I got to be straight up now. I'll get over it in a little while you know what I mean? But right now It's just the hype is still rolling the strawberry strawberry Yeah, yeah Same both strawberry slayer How good is it anyways? Yeah, yeah, that's that get the mulk get the work get the work Your Mulk kid for your kids War your kid milk.

It's that comes in strawberry and chocolate. Once again, the strawberry is unreal. The chocolate's fine. It's good. Your kids will like it. The strawberry, they'll be coming back for more. Right? It's dessert. And then of course you got jocco white tea, which is good for you.

It tastes good. And the most important thing is that it gives you an 8,000 pound deadlift, which is not chabby. No and it's 100% guaranteed like 100%. Yeah, like every single person that's ever had it. Yep. Has got an 8,000 pound death.

Yeah. So you're good there. Get that a try if you want. Yeah, big time. All that stuff that we just talked about is at origin, main.com. Yes. If you want it. Yep.

And the tea, we offer the tea as well. Where? On our store. Oh, I didn't know we had a store. Jocko, you do have a store. It's called Jocco store. Anyway, yeah. So yeah, Jocco store is called jocco store.com.

This is where you can get a bunch of rash guards, t-shirts, hats, stickers. Pretty much anything that you want. Do you have stickers in there right now? We have sticker, bumper stickers. Okay. I don't know if everyone knows that. Yeah. It could be sold out and we don't know it.

Tell Jesse. Jesse will get him into game. No, no, the decals. Okay. So there's a difference between bumper stickers and decals. We have decals. Oh, okay. Those are like more legitimate stickers.

Okay, cool. That's the ones I like. Yes, me too. More on that level. Yeah, pretty much. anything if you want to represent, you know, the discipline equals freedom, like, concept. You know, a guy, and this is just, you should know this. A guy, there was, I was speaking in an event, and they were talking about, like, oh, we got

some guys that are going to wear your t-shirt. You know? And I was like, oh, that's awesome. And the guy I was talking to was kind of, I don't know, he just had a look on his face, like, like I was, like saying, oh, it's so awesome that guys are wearing. You know the t-shirt and so I said to him I said it's awesome because like that's how the podcast is supported It's like when you buy a t-shirt That's how the podcast is supported so it is cool and it's appreciated if you get a t-shirt or a hat or a rash guard or whatever

From the jaco store because then we can have the podcast Yeah and the good good support support yeah big 10 good good good news support yeah big 10 good good news news about this too though it's not like the shirts and I said this from the beginning I think this was kind of the goal when you know when you make shirts you produce shirts yeah it's it seems obvious to be like oh yeah let's just get some shirts no no no I made it a point to get like literally the shirts that like that I wear or that and which are we're proving because I made shirts before in the past actually I've been making shirts since I was like six years old

to be honest with so I where were you making shirts when you were six years old call I But I mean like we explain that a little bit so you get sure well because it wasn't like you were running up silk screen Operation no but my mom six years old yes my mom so your mom was making shirts when you were six years old well it kind of filtered down to us too so they did airbrush they did silk screen they did I want to see some kid pictures of you with an airbrush t-shirt unicorn rainbow Shaka Shaka maybe there may a lot of flowers a lot of that kind of it was on quiet so there there's there's She worked at a place called tropical shirts. Yes, on Kauai and Lai.

They shared a building with like a can or pineapple cannery. They'd make sure it was real interesting. Anyway, that's where we learned. Nonetheless, the point is, I didn't get some just random cheap, the cheapest shirt. I got wearable shirts. Many people. And when I say many, I mean more than I can, I can't recollect like five people. It's actually a lot of people.

Yeah. A lot of people telling me this too. Yeah, that it's the most like their favorite shirt. To wear because it fits so good. It's like the soft of material. It's not just like some rigid thing. You know, they're good. It's quality stuff is what I'm saying.

So, you know, beneficial in all sorts of ways. Check. That's jocco store.com. Hey, also speaking to the podcast, you should subscribe to this podcast. If you haven't already, if you will subscribe to it, then you just click a button. It says subscribe and you did it. You achieved the goal of the day. You subscribed to the podcast.

And the more subscribers we get that. No, whatever. Subscribe to the podcast get in the game the warrior kid podcast as well That one's coming out a little bit infrequently right now, but we are getting them out I'm working on another one right now There's plenty of lessons in there for everyone from Uncle Jake and then you can also get some warrior kid soap from Irish Oaks Ranch.com Also we have a YouTube channel. Yeah, it's a good channel. I think if you're interested in the video version that's mainly what you're mainly what you're what it's for. Also,

there's some excerpts on there that we put out so you don't have to necessarily listen to the whole thing every single time. Yeah. Whenever I meet someone that has a commute

more than 40 minutes to work and from work, they're completely caught up on the podcast. Yeah. When I meet someone that has a commute that's like 10 minutes,

they're like, oh, you're putting out these podcasts too fast. Mm. And I say, well, listen harder. You know, Because on some apps, you can play it at 1.5 or whatever, two times of speed. I don't know that I would recommend that.

I've accidentally, you know, sometimes you accidentally press a button and it'll go faster. It's kind of weird. But if you're trying to rush it, you're trying to get the info in. You can get used to it too. Yeah. You can get used to it. But then the thing is with me, a lot of times, obviously I speak really slow with big giant pauses. I'm sorry, that's just the way I talk.

But then also sometimes I speak really quickly and put my words together and they kind of flow out. If you were listening to this right now at 2.0 speed, you'd be in a world of hurt trying to understand what I was talking about. So that's when you've got to be able to get back to that button, hammer it down, get you to slow back down to a normal speed of 1.0. 1.0, yeah, true. But yeah, either way, YouTube, yes, YouTube.

We do have YouTube channels. So, yeah, check that out if you're interested in that one. Also, psychological warfare. If you don't know what that is. It's an album with tracks, Jocco tracks, getting us all through our moments. the weakness if they become prevalent, which they do from time to time.

They do. Way less now, by the way. But, you know, those are on wherever you get an MP3, you can get the psychological warfare album. That's an audio. It's an audio. Reminder. If you want a visual reminder,

you can go to flipsidecanvice.com. Run by my brother, Dakota Meyer. He was on this podcast number one. 15 he makes things that you can look at that say good things on them to remind you of what you should be doing he just made a new one that says all your excuses are lies yeah I saw that was good there's no it's not all fancy because there's nothing fancy about all our excuses or lies it's simple for the simplicity element yes yes so yeah check out flipside canvass com get some stuff to hang on your walls.

Yes. And also made under the umbrella of freedom here in America. Yes, sir. It is big time. Also, on it, on it.com slash jocco. This is where you can get workout gear. Some warrior bars.

Here's the thing. I haven't been talking about the warrior bars, but those warrior bars are like key. They're a, they're a good to have on the standby scenario. Oh yeah. And even like, that's like a semi-day.

What is semi-daily? Is that every other day? Semi-daily? It's not necessarily... Important. Yeah. Semi-daily. Well, my frequency with these warrior bars,

a protein-packed, food. They're not like, like, you know, a power bar or something. It's not like that. It's like a protein meat. Anyway,

it's called a warrior bar. Anyway, that's every other day, I would say. It's like, I don't even like to use word snack because it doesn't feel like a snack.

snack. It's like a hybrid snack slash meal protein ish. Anyway, nonetheless, there's a lot of cool stuff on there. Cettlebells on there. I used to say artistic kettlebells, even though they are artistic, but I feel like it doesn't capture the glory of the kettlebells. Nonetheless, primal bells, legend bells. That's where I get them. What do they call the Star Wars bells? Oh, they call them space bells. are. I don't think they have a name for the group yet,

but yes, I just got the Darth Vader one. Didn't come in yet. It's like a Stormtrooper. Darth Vader. There's a Boba Fett one, which is dope. But I'm going to get all three. I'll report back.

Anyway, on it.com slash jocco, that's where you can get this good stuff. A lot of good stuff. Got a bunch of books. The book to order right now is Way the Warrior Kid, three,

where there's a will. that book comes out May 28th So we're talking You better order it now Because it's probably gonna sell out And I'll have to print more Yeah don't forget about the first two though And then the first two yep

We got Way the Warrior kid From Wimpy to Warrior The Navy Seal Away And then you got Mark's Mission And Mark's mission And Mark's mission is your daughter's favorite Correct yes She sleeps with it

Hmm Strange yeah Not a stuffed animal By the way It's a book It's a hard cover book, not the most physically cozy, which I'm not opposed to physically cozy.

But yes, sleeps with it. Her favorite book straight out. Yes. That's awesome. Yeah. So that's Way the Warrior Kid and Mark's mission, teaching good things to children. And they need it these days.

And also you got Mikey and the Dragons. That one is for a little bit younger crowd. And then on top of that, of course, we got the Discipline Equals Freedom Field Manual for, which is for everyone. teaches you how to get after it. The audio is on iTunes and Google Play and Amazon Music. And the extreme ownership, dichotomy of leadership,

which I wrote with my brother Laf Babin. You can get these books to learn about leadership. And you can also get these books and give them to the people that work for you or the people that you work for so that you all become better leaders. On top of that, we have echelon front. That's my leadership consultancy. and what we do is we solve problems through leadership. If you've got a company, if you've got a business,

if you've got a team and you've got problems at that team, the problems are due to one thing and one thing only. And that's leadership. So if you want to get those problems fixed at your team, go to echelonfront.com. We got the muster. Chicago sold out already. In fact, it might be on during this.

Oh no, we're listening to it right now. So Chicago. And then we've got Denver, September 19th and 20th. We got Sydney, December 4th and 5th. Extremeownership.com, if you want to come. They're all going to sell out, so try and sign up early. Otherwise, you're going to miss it. The one in Sydney, by the way, I think the place that we got down there,

I want to say it's less than 400 people. So that place is going to sell out quick. Not to mention it's our first time going to Australia for a muster. So it's going to get crazy quick. So if you want to come, try and sign up early. EF online. This is online training. If you can't come to the muster.

If you can't come to the muster, or let's say, and this is the reason we created it, is because we work with companies that have 62,000 employees. And they say, hey, Jocko, can you train all of our employees? They're around the world. And I say, no, I can't. No, I actually say, stand by. Let me talk to you in a month. Sure.

And then it's hey, we created and it didn't take a month. It took a lot longer in a month. It took us about nine months to get it out. But it's online interactive leadership training. Get your whole organization on the same page. And if you're an individual and you want it, you can get it to. It's eFonline.com. And then we've got EF Overwatch where we're taking special operations and combat aviation leaders

off the battlefield and putting them into companies so that they can help those companies lead. And a lot of times people think, well, what is some special forces guy going to know about manufacturing? Trust me, you put him in there. It's not about manufacturing. He'll learn about the manufacturing. But what he's going to know what he knows how to do right now is he knows how to lead. And he's going to turn that organization around.

So that's eFoverwatch.com where we can get you your leadership. Yep. Also, we're on the internet with. interwebs, which is also called the internet, by the way. I think you already knew that. Nonetheless, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook. I met Echo Charles. What was that last one?

Facebookie, boha. I'm at Echo Charles, Jocco Zat Jocco Willink. And thanks to everyone out there that, everyone out there that has fought and does fight for our freedom. standing up against these evil regimes in the world and putting your life on the line to defend, to defend our ideal, which is freedom. And here at home, thanks to police and law enforcement and firefighters and paramedics and EMTs and dispatchers and correctional officers and Border Patrol, Secret Service, and all the other first responders,

Thanks to you as well for keeping us safe here at home and everyone else out there Remember this code that we talked about remember what it meant to people and remember the will that it instilled in those people a will so strong that they faced death without fear and then remember the will the will that overcame that code was the will of freedom. The will that says, I will bow down to no man. The will to stand up, no matter what kind of evil death cult there was that attacked

and tried to enslave the world, that evil was overcome by the strength of freedom and the will to get up. And no matter what, get after. it and until next time this is Echo and Jocko out