Jocko Podcast - 377: Don't Do Dumb SH**T.

Episode Date: March 15, 2023

One of the simplest and most impactful little piece of advice for success in life is, "Don't Do Dumb sh*t". Avoid things that may make you do dumb things. Like alcohol, drugs, out of con...trol ego, peer pressure, and many others. With Jocko Willink and Echo CharlesSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Jocko podcast number 377 with Echo Charles and me Joccoe Winling. Good evening, Echow. Good evening. So a while ago, we might have been say back in the day. In the days. I gave some advice, a little advice to the boys in a certain situation. And I think this piece of advice that I gave, it's one of those pieces of advice, very simple piece of advice. very simple piece of advice
Starting point is 00:00:31 and yet if you follow this very simple piece of advice your whole life will be in a much better place gold nugget now I know that's a little arrogant right does it hear me say tell you that I spewed
Starting point is 00:00:45 some gold nugget piece of advice right but I think you might agree with me when you hear this piece of advice that I gave some people and I've given it to other people over the years here's the here's the very powerful piece of advice that will help you much in life the piece of advice is don't do dumb
Starting point is 00:01:06 shit and I know it's not earth breaking right I know it's not some ancient um Western or Eastern philosophical statement but let me ask you this how many people do you know that have either negatively negatively negatively impacted their lives or wreck their lives Either slowly over time or very quickly in some cases how many people do you know that have Really made a mess of their lives by doing dumb shit? I know a lot of them and as I was like I said I was actually giving this advice to someone the other day and I started thinking to myself this is so obvious Why would anyone do dumb shit? shit why would you why would you do it literally what are the reasons and then I started thinking about
Starting point is 00:02:10 actual reasons that cause people to do dumb shit myself included and I'm sure we'll find some examples for echo Charles but I thought let's sit down let me think about some of these things and we can discuss some of the primary reasons for us to do dumb shit and that way maybe we can prevent some people and that means me and that means you from doing some dumb shit okay first on my list this one's real obvious this one this one is the winner by far alcohol look yes you take if you take the seal teams or just take the military in general if you removed alcohol from the equation, there would be a lot less dumb shit going on.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Look, we're still doing dumb shit. But when I used to have guys get in trouble, 95% of the time, there was alcohol involved. Think about that. 95% of the time when a seal did some dumb shit, maybe 90%. 90% of the time there was alcohol involved. They were doing some dumb shit.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Think about high school. right what goes on in high school when people get in trouble in high school probably 80% maybe 70 well you got that little you got that little spike of rebelliousness that's going on in high school
Starting point is 00:03:47 that doesn't require alcohol yeah it doesn't require the stupidity of alcohol college when you see when you see like when something hits the news for college yeah yeah there's alcohol involved that might be 97% right
Starting point is 00:04:03 The frat guy dies from too much alcohol. The date rape thing happens because the guy's drunk. The girl's drunk. Like it's just a disaster. The vandalism happens. The kid falls out the window drunk. Like you take all those college things, 97% alcohol is in the game. Am I right?
Starting point is 00:04:25 Yeah. That sounds right to me too. You're more of the college experience than me. Yep, yep, yep. the military like I said and life in general life in general this alcohol thing is just going to lead to bad scenarios it's going to lead to you doing dumb shit some of it is hey you get pulled over by the cops you you might be in that mindset like well I'm fine but you blow a you know 0.081 or whatever so you now you're technically you're drunk yeah guess what you're out 10 grand
Starting point is 00:05:00 You're maybe out your driver's license You get an accident with that now you're getting sued Like it's just a total life turnaround in three seconds Never mind if you're actually drunk and you do something Dumb you hit somebody whatever that's terrible You get in fights I mean you go to does it is there any fights in the supermarket? Right there are occasionally
Starting point is 00:05:26 Yeah, not really though right but not a lot Yeah low percentage are there any fights on the boardwalk, like during the day on a Saturday? There can be, but there's not a lot. But what about Saturday night? What changed? It's darker.
Starting point is 00:05:43 But what really changed? They put that booze. They put that whiskey in the scene. Some people go crazy, by the way. Some people, alcohol makes them go crazy. This is a legitimate thing. Yeah. Like I have friends, they're drinking.
Starting point is 00:05:59 they're not going to they're actually not going to do anything stupid they're going to go they're going to have a drink it's no big deal. I have some friends when they drink alcohol they're just going to lose their mind they're going to lose their mind. You have to watch you have to put a party of
Starting point is 00:06:15 of warriors to like keep them under control. Handlers straight up. Yeah straight up. So there you go. My boss one of the nightclubs I worked at in Hawaii didn't drink or he told me he didn't drink I said oh why not you know
Starting point is 00:06:34 because it kind of was it didn't compute we work in the nightclub or whatever he's one of the few people and he said I'm a belligerent drunk oh he knew it yeah self-aware yep he totally was but but what was more like what made an impact on me was the idea of being a belligerent drunk because he just said I'm a belligerent drunk so that to me like how it came off to me it was like he knows and we all know about what a belligerent drunk is like someone who gets drunk and just wants to start stuff on whatever scale you know like I want to start I'm gonna start a fight with my friend I told you about an argument I'd say about one buddy like he was passed out on a high boy table you know what that is it's like a standing like a standing table but you can have a
Starting point is 00:07:13 tall stool yeah whatever so he's kind of just passed out on that you know it's it's it's oh by the way it's only like 10 o'clock at night and he's passed out drunk we've been drinking since whenever this is back in the day we're just stupid and and so you know I I meet some girls. They're like, hey, let's go to this other bar. And I'm like, yeah, you know, this is back and down. And so I'm like, okay, we're going to go to this other bar. So I wake him up.
Starting point is 00:07:39 I say, hey, bro, hey, we're going to this other bar. He like stands up, looks at me. He kind of looks normal. He takes two steps and he takes a swing at some random dude that's walking away or walking by him with his girlfriend. He takes a swing at this guy. I grab him and I get a hold of him and he's yelling. He's going, what did he do?
Starting point is 00:07:59 Like that's what my that's what my friend is saying. He's going, what did he do? What did he do? I'm like, he didn't do anything, man. He didn't do anything. It's okay. He's like, what did you do? And I get him outside.
Starting point is 00:08:08 And meanwhile, the guy gets outside. And as we get outside, the guy sees that I'm holding my buddy back. And the guy looks at me and goes, yeah, you better hold on to him. I look at the guy and go, hey man, if you don't get out of here, I'm going to let him go. And the dude just like, he took off, bro. He didn't want none of that. No. But that's, that's, that's animalistic behavior coming out.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Yeah. This is no judgment. Yeah. No judgment. Like his judgment is just. And by the way, this guy who's a friend of mine, he didn't have a real, he was kind of a, he's just going to take action type of bra. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:08:47 Sober or not. Yeah. Like when he's sober, he might have like maybe two or three seconds of consideration before action. And those are not long seconds. You know, he's considering maybe can I get killed right now or can I get arrested? Is there a cop in the immediate 20 feet around me? No, I can get away with this. I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 00:09:06 But when alcohol was involved, there's no thought process whatsoever. Just zero. I'm just going to do whatever pops into my head. That's alcohol. So that's why I think, you know, that we, I think everybody's got a kind of joke like this of, you know, if it wasn't for alcohol, the Irish would rule the world. The seals would rule the world. You know, like you say that about all these different cultures that the English would rule the world. Like, alcohol will screw you up and make you do dumb shit.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Oh, yeah. You brought up the judgment thing. We watched the movie Kingpin. Remember that one? The bowling movie? Bowling movie. How are you? So he said something at some point where the guy, you know, he's trying to develop this new bowling talent, right, the Amish dude.
Starting point is 00:09:51 And then he said they did something and it failed. It was massive failure. And he's like, you said you could develop me into the next town. And he was like, I've been hammered for the last, you know, 15 years or whatever. So my judgment isn't all that good. And it kind of got me thinking where even if I'm at home by myself in front of the computer, watching TV or whatever, like by myself, my judgment is not good. Drinking alcohol. So like, and okay, so I'm going to admit this to you.
Starting point is 00:10:16 So I'll do the dumb shit I do, which thankfully doesn't have huge repercussions, but I'll get like an idea to do some cool shit. there's like a handful of people that'll literally like vouch for this this fact I'll get an idea and I'll be like oh that would be so cool if I like started doing this right and I was like who can I do that like who would who would help me with this like who would bring some really cool shit to the table for this idea that I'm about to develop that I just develop right now so I'll text like keen Cornelius like whatever the idea is dumb it's a dumb idea but the is my point is like judgment is just bad yeah even it can literally seem like brother this is going to change like the whole trajectory of like what we're doing
Starting point is 00:11:03 you know like and it's this idea and then you wake up the next thing you see the text because it's like three in the morning so the normal person is not going to text back at that time so in the morning I get the reply text and oh I'm waiting I'm waiting to hear this idea you know all this up and I'm like ah yeah never mind about that idea but it happens a lot even if the kind like and I'm the kind where I'll know like if I was drinking or whatever all know like hey like Like sometimes they do come up with bad ideas So I understand so but I'm gonna be aware of that you know
Starting point is 00:11:29 Even though I know still still judgment terrible We have a thing in the SEAL teams where guys would be sitting on drinking And they'd say like oh we were solving the world's problems Yeah, right is that a common thing? Okay yeah It's very similar to what you're talking about We were thinking oh you know if we just did this and we did they're coming up with the dumbest solution Oh yeah And thank God you don't act on them or whatever they might be
Starting point is 00:11:53 hopefully but case and point alcohol big contributor to doing dumb shit the the you said something about the or when you mentioned the drunk drinking and driving right where that one so okay there's the kind where you drink like some you drink some and you're like maybe I'm over maybe I'm not but like I for real feel I can I can drive it's no problem like the risk like it doesn't even seem like a risk a that's the alcohol doing telling you that That's a B it is a risk straight up risk and it's not a hard decision technically And it's not a small risk either yeah huge and it's a but it's not like a hard decision It's not like oh my gosh let me just weigh out these pros and cons and like man okay you know okay
Starting point is 00:12:35 All of them it's so easy like so easy to tell me know what we do it especially now with uber Yeah, I mean for real like uber is just a problem solver yeah fully so let's make sure I guess you know when people do the um like the psychological or a psycho drugs like yeah psychedelic like drug or whatever they say oh you need to go to like a special place special place to do where you won't you don't do them at like Costco right you're supposed to go to a place where you're not going to hurt anybody you're not going to hurt yourself it's you kind of need to set yourself up with alcohol yeah like that i think that that's actually a good idea yeah put yourself in it's like if you really feel the need go to a situation where you're not going to be around these these
Starting point is 00:13:28 problems that are going to come that sounds funny but really when you kind of think of it and ignore some of the social stuff that's probably a good idea a and B when you really think of look at it kind of from that perspective a bar in nightclub is the literal exact opposite so you said let's have you in a responsible safe area with a coach that can guide you through it, you know, maybe multiple coaches, you know, because this is a powerful drug and it's going to make you have feelings that you think are real, but they're not and all this stuff. And that's true. But actually, you know what, instead of that, let's do this. Let's put you in a place where you can get as much as you want, literally as much as as you don't
Starting point is 00:14:05 pass out or start throwing up or whatever. You can have as much as you want as long as you can afford it, by the way, because we're going to charge you a little bit extra on that one. As much as you want. And we're going to put you in the vicinity of two things that are probably the most emotionally telling things that a human being can do with if your boy, it's girls who are dressed up the best they can by the way and to look as, let's say, attractive as possible. And a bunch of other guys who are out to do the same thing while, you know, to compete with socially that you don't know and have no like, you know, ties to or whatever. Oh yeah. That's the perfect recipe for safety. I was, I was talking to a friend of mine. This is a couple years ago and he had, I hadn't seen him
Starting point is 00:14:49 in a long time. And I was like, oh, what do you've been up to? And he kind of told me what he'd been up to. And he said, yeah, you know, I, whatever. I got in trouble here. I got arrested there. And he said, you know, I was addicted to, I started using crack or I started using Coke.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Then I started using crack. Then I started using Matt, like the whole nine yards. And as I'm talking to it, he goes, you know what the craziest thing is? He said, the craziest thing is the worst drug for me. That's what he got arrested for. He goes, the only thing I've been arrested for, he'd been to rehab and stuff for these other drugs.
Starting point is 00:15:25 He said, the only thing I've actually been arrested for is when I drink alcohol. He goes, when I drink alcohol, I'm totally insane. And I can vouch for this. I've seen him drink alcohol, and he is totally insane. And he said, is this craziest thing that the drug that makes me totally insane is the only one that I can walk down to the corner store
Starting point is 00:15:43 and buy as much of it as I possibly want? He said, it's terrible. That's great and that's a very good point and the weird thing about it is is that alcohol affects different people differently I mean for real it does and so some people that's why when I talk to like younger people You don't know how it's going to affect you And if you don't know well again, what's the risk that you're taking the risk that you're taking is maybe this is just you're one of those people that just goes Freaking ape shit when you drink when you drink this stuff and you get addicted to it the whole nine yards Even and speaking of just setting yourself up at a minimum
Starting point is 00:16:22 Like oh, you're gonna go well, you know, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna drive down to the bar and I might have a few drinks Just don't drive there just get an Uber there Yeah, you know like put yourself if you're smart at least set yourself up for some kind of Yeah Not being an idiot. Yeah, that's some legit mitigation right there for sure the this scary one just one more add Additional scary part of alcohol and this is this this is it lands on people on different areas of the spectrum here but what it does so you know you can think and we all think sometimes most of the time anyway I can drink and like I'll
Starting point is 00:16:54 just I'll just really monitor myself and focus on monitoring myself I won't do nothing dumb right I promise to your wife or whoever but what alcohol does is it literally makes bad ideas seem good like good idea they flip over to have so much personal experience with that bro a lot of the reflection yes we got asked on the underground up somebody asked about alcohol and like, well, you know, I feel like I should cut it down and I've been addicted. Like he had a big thing. He said, you know, how can I do a better job of cutting it down? And, you know, I basically said at the end of, I kind of went around. I said, listen, man, I just
Starting point is 00:17:28 can't get behind it at all. I just can't tell you that there's any positive way that you should be doing this. Just you shouldn't be doing it. And I had several people reach out to me and say, thanks for saying that because that's the right answer. The right answer is you shouldn't be doing And you just especially if you have any kind of you have a problem with it you shouldn't do it at all Period end of story and look if you're one of those people as lucky enough that you can have a few and it's okay You like a glass of wine with dinner and all that stuff I get it and I'm not trying to Say anything bad about you and I'm not trying to take away your bottle of wine or your beer after a hard day work If you can do that cool good for you but if you're one of those people that that glass of wine turns into a bottle of wine or that
Starting point is 00:18:11 that two beers turns into eight 12 you know 24 beers that's not good and you shouldn't be doing it and if you're one of those people that your judgment goes completely off the rails you shouldn't be doing it there's just other things you should do so had to put that one as the number one I would say for people between the ages of you know 16 and 35 yeah Probably the number one cause of doing dumb shit alcohol So just be careful out there people drugs. I had to list drugs too because obviously drugs are similar You know everything that we just said about alcohol you can kind of say about drugs too Yeah, so alcohol or sorry drugs I I think I've told you this before I had a friend that He he told he was he did meth and He said he just gotten out of jail. He did like seven years in jail for stealing and doing all kinds of stuff.
Starting point is 00:19:16 And he was doing all this bad stuff because he was addicted to meth. And he said that the first time he ever tried meth, the very first time he ever tried meth, he said it was the only thing that he ever wanted to do for the rest of his life. He was like 100% totally addicted. And he started in his immediate family stealing everything that they had, then his grandma, then his granddad, then his aunt and uncle, he stole everything from his family, then everything from his friends. And then he went to a different city and did the same thing again and same thing again, And same thing again, until he finally ended up in a place where his luck ran out. He got caught and ended up doing seven years in prison.
Starting point is 00:19:46 From one try of meth. So drugs, again, it's like the same thing. I just can't. I just can't. And you know how some people say they have an addictive personality? And it's almost like a little bit of a humble brag. You know, I got an addictive personality. I sense that.
Starting point is 00:20:06 The reason I say, I think I used to say that. For real. I just go, oh, yeah, I kind of have an addictive personality. And I actually think I do not actually have an addictive personality. You know, I like to do some things. Like, I really like doing jiu-jitsu. Yeah. You know, could I say, oh, yeah, I'm kind of addicted to jihis?
Starting point is 00:20:25 But it's not like running my life. Right. Well, what does that mean? How do you interpret that when someone's like, I have an addictive. Meaning, what do you think that means? Meaning, meaning, oh, you try alcohol. It makes you feel good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:37 You're now going to get as much as you can. And you're not going to stop until something goes bad. Let's say not even drug or alcohol. Like just if you have an addictive personality, you know. Yeah, I don't really, I don't know if these are even a technical term for it. I feel like I used to say it, you know, when I was younger, like, I kind of had almost like a humble brag. Yeah. And probably when I was like 30, I was like, actually, I don't think I have an addictive personality at all.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Yeah. Like, we would go on ships where you're not allowed to drink and I just wouldn't care at all. Right. You know, wouldn't care at all. It's like whatever. Addictive personality to me strikes me as something. where like if you like kind of get into something you know some big thing small thing whatever whatever you get into you just go hard into into into that subject activity that's what it feels like
Starting point is 00:21:19 it means you know and tech i mean in a way kind of know some people like that where it's like oh he's on this now and he just spends like years just being into this every day kind of a thing i can see it but i think you're right and i didn't really think about that where it's like it's kind of a humble brag as if to say i just go hard if i get into something i just go hard that's how i am Yeah, you know, it's almost like saying, yeah, I'm kind of a perfectionist, that, that whole thing, you know, it's sort of like, I've got an addictive personality. You just got to, hey, man, I'm just going to go. So I don't think I have that, but I definitely know people that, I should, I definitely, I know some people that went hard in these directions, various directions. And you can also, you know, you hear about people that were drug addicts.
Starting point is 00:22:02 And when they get done with drug addicts, they get off of them, and then they become, like, addicted to fitness. Yeah. You know what I mean? They just, oh, are you school? I was an alcoholic and I started working out and they just get addicted to that. I started running marathons. I started what, right? So that's what I think the, when I think of addictive personality, it's someone that's
Starting point is 00:22:18 just disregarding other parts of life. Yeah, yeah. And they're just doing this thing. Yeah. Whatever that thing is. So there's alcohol drugs. Okay. Now, the next one here that I was thinking about is, and a lot of these things are related,
Starting point is 00:22:33 but these kind of instinctual or animalistic drives that we have. have as human beings. So these can make you do dumb things, right? So the, you know, you got food, right? You got the reproductive drive, sex. You've got the aggression, like you have a natural, different levels, but a natural level of aggression. When, have you ever done a sport where something made you mad?
Starting point is 00:23:04 Like you got frustrated with the sport and you like hit? Like you get frustrated on the mats and you like hit the mats or you've seen someone like punch the punch the wall mat after they get tapped right? Yeah, yeah, fully that's a thing or they get They get submitted or they get worked over on the mat and they start to get hostile Yeah, oh wait, are you talking about just hostile in general or hostile towards the person or whatever? Okay, general hostility Like there's an aggression level that you come out. Yeah, yeah, gotcha and so those are animalistic things animalistic drives that we have that can make you do dumb things. And here's a, to not go too crazy on an example, but you have an animalistic drive to eat food. So that can make you make bad decisions because if you get a freaking big ass box of donuts in front of you, you have an instinct to eat those donuts.
Starting point is 00:23:53 100%. And that's, you know, same thing with, you know, with the sex drive that you have. You know, you could be in a situation with, oh, the animalistic part of you could just make you break down and you're going to go. The aggression thing, you get into a scenario where you get backed into a corner, the animalistic thing is like, oh, I better protect myself. I bet you need to get aggressive right now. Fear also can make you do things, which is an animalistic emotion, I guess, is fear. And there's some animalistic things that are positive, too. You know, being protective.
Starting point is 00:24:29 You know, like when a guy runs into a house or a mom runs into a burning house to save their kid, they're like being. animalistically protective. You know, you hear about the bear protecting its cubs. Well, humans will do that too. It's a positive thing. But you have to pay attention to make sure that your animal instincts aren't making you do dumb shit. Yeah. Because they can.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Yes, they can. So that you talked about the food thing. So, and I say this because this is probably very like prevalent and common where, you know how you talk about fasting. stuff like that. So some people, they might not be ready for that hunger. And we've talked about that too, where if you're not ready for that hunger or actually, forget fasting. What if you just didn't eat today because you didn't have time or whatever, right?
Starting point is 00:25:17 You just, not you, just a normal person. And then you get home. Okay, let's just say it. Me, all right? So I get home and I'm hungry from, because I miss lunch because I was doing whatever. And I get home and, you know, I'm like many people where I pay attention to what I eat. I'm not just like, oh, I'm hungry. Oh, there's a man.
Starting point is 00:25:36 McDonald's that sounds good but you know like so I pay attention and try to you know I'd be I'm thoughtful deliberate yeah deliberate yes exactly so if I'm hungry though super hungry like let's say eight hours no food like that's hunger you know um in my opinion but I'll go home and then if I see some like candy walnuts cruising over there or some chips like over there whatever like I'll get into them you know When I didn't have any plan to do that, that wasn't part of any program. It wasn't part of my plan, you know. But I will be way more thoughtless of what I eat when you're hungry, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:12 where it's like, oh, no, no, dinner's coming out right now. It's still pulling me toward, you know. So that can kind of like make you go into that spiral, that animalistic, like spiral. You know? So you, that's why this is on the list, man. Bro, you got to make you do dumb shit. You got to watch out. And really this is and this kind of goes for this whole list.
Starting point is 00:26:31 I'll call everything, even stuff that will seem real obvious to some people. part of the problem or if not a significant part of the problem is that you're not paying attention. It's almost like you're not like you lost focus for one second. You just let the animalistic whatever kind of take over. You know, like the momentum of the what, you know, your whole thing, whatever you're doing. Even the alcohol thing, you know, you're saying, I know you're going to talk about this word, pure pressure, right? Where pure pressure doesn't come in ways like how you see on the old school 80s, 90s commercials where it's like, come on, don't be a chicken. It doesn't always come like that, you know?
Starting point is 00:27:04 It comes in like a lot of subtle ways that just sort of you're going forward in life and the peer pressures nudges you right to the side. Like why would anyone, and this is no, I'm not like judging or nothing, anyone who does this, but why would anyone ever smoke a cigarette? Like there's no reason ever, especially now ever to smoke cigarettes, but why do people smoke cigarettes? There should be not one single human being technically or in America technically who should start smoking. Yeah, it should be zero. Like that decision-making process is polluted by this peer pressure by something. It's polluted by something distracting their decision-making process. Which so, and that's why I don't judge because let's face it.
Starting point is 00:27:43 You know, I've said this about alcohol too. Back in the day, you know, if you wanted to prove that you were kind of willing to sacrifice for the team and that you were tough. One of the ways you could do that is like, oh, watch how much I can drink. Watch how much can abuse my own body and then still go on, right? You see somebody in this day and age, if you were, if you're going to make a decision to make, to smoke cigarettes, it's literally a way of saying, hey, look, I don't care about anything. I don't care. That's how much I don't care. It's a statement.
Starting point is 00:28:15 I think if you were going to be, that would be the only reason where I think someone would go, oh yeah, look at me. I don't even care. This is horrible for me. I can get a horrible disease. And I'm just over here smoking a cigarette. Yeah. Posty, right? Post Malone.
Starting point is 00:28:30 just out there singing and freaking smoking a cigarette. Yeah. It's a bummer. He must be addicted to the cigarettes, though, huh? Yeah. And to me, this is all real. This is real life. This isn't like, oh, you guys are so dumb.
Starting point is 00:28:43 It's like, no, no, no, it's actually pretty obvious. Like, I see exactly why this is going on because I've been peer pressured into doing so much dumb stuff. Whereas as an adult, they'll be like, hey, did you do this? And then to say yes is actually embarrassing, even though it's something that, like, plenty of young people do or whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:58 There's a lot of stuff that go like that and go like that. know that we've all done or whatever so hey that that's just one of them so whatever do what you dig but when you really stop and think which i was going to say this earlier where a lot of this it's crazy how it goes back to all these simple simple terms you know back when you're like five years old when your teacher telling you hey don't do dumb stuff okay cool i won't hey stop and think we all hear that just stop and think right so look if you just stop and think before you're about to smoke your first cigarette stop and think and then make a conscious decision you'd be like oh wait I'm probably not going to smoke that cigarette.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Yeah. Which goes back to this very simple piece of advice. That's why this simple piece of advice is powerful. Yes, yeah. So there you go. And you know what? You're going to see like a lot of these things are tied together. For instance, when you drink alcohol, your animalistic nature is more
Starting point is 00:29:49 closer to the surface. That's why we're fighting more. You know, like that's why you get done with a night of drinking and you swing by that pizzeria. You know, you're like, give me that trip. Chee right give me the triple cheese you know stack it up man when I was in Guam my first deployment we would like drink and then there was this freaking like 24-hour gas station food mart yeah and they had these microwavable rib sandwiches and I would
Starting point is 00:30:22 literally get five of them and then just sit there and eat them at four o'clock in the morning boneless there's yeah just a boneless but it's like a mic rib sandwich that you threw in the microwave. Yeah, yeah. I mean, there's probably nothing worse you could eat as a human. I know. You know, but five or four o'clock in the morning, three o'clock in the morning, hungry.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Yeah. Let's eat this crap. Yep. So there you go. Watch out for that. This next one, this one, you know, this next one's obviously very, very, very clear, very prominent. That's our ego.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Could be as far as internally, as far as who we are. to take away the external drugs and alcohol, ego is going to be a huge problem. We do so many dumb things because of our ego. And what's interesting is you start seeing the thread between the ego and sort of your animalistic drives. There's a connection. Right? There's a connection between aggression.
Starting point is 00:31:22 You know, when you get in my face, we're in a bar or in the supermarket. It doesn't really matter. you you get in my face you steal my cart right yeah yeah and I get mad and but and I might get mad or I might be like hey what are you doing but then you say what are you going to do about it you just you just attack my ego yeah now I might do some dumb shit you know because let's face it what am I gonna gonna get out of fighting you in the in the Vaughn's parking lot what am I'm gonna get out of that I'm not gonna get anything out of it in fact there's almost no good outcome at a minimum skin to my, I broke a finger or skinned my knee or, I mean, at a maximum I get killed, right?
Starting point is 00:32:04 You shank me with a freaking, a butter knife, a sharpened butter knife. Or you shoot me because you got concealed carry. So what's happening? That's an ego situation. So how many times are we doing dumb shit because our ego is getting in the way and driving our decision making process? Again, this is something we talk about all the time from a leadership perspective. Of course, oh, Echo's got a plan and I've got my plan.
Starting point is 00:32:27 I think my plan's better and my ego gets in the way. That's cool. We get that. But as far as just on an individual human being level, how much dumb stuff are you doing because your ego gets in the way? And the answer is a ton. That's the answer. Everything from an animalistic fight because your ego gets in the way to, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:49 you're talking to your wife and she says something that offends your ego. So what do you do? You snap back. or what is a snap back or clapback? I think you might be both. Okay. You get aggressive back at her. And now all of a sudden you're escalating the situation.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Now instead of going out for dinner and having a nice Friday night, everything is a disaster. You're doing dumb stuff because your ego. What about your, you know, you're out with your buddies. You're 16 years old and it's time to do something crazy. Oh, we're going to jump off this thing. We're going to dive over that thing. We're going to throw things at this vehicle. Like we're going to get do troublesome stuff and you know it's not smart.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Then someone's like, oh, what are you a wimp? Your ego gets offended. Now what are you going to do? Oh, watch this. I'm going to prove it. So we do dumb shit because of our ego. Put it in check. It's not just a leadership thing.
Starting point is 00:33:47 It's a life thing. It's a life thing. Even this even a lot of that peer pressure. Pure pressure, they use ego as part of peer pressure. But what do you think you're too good? No, I'll do this too. Boom. Next thing you know,
Starting point is 00:33:59 here, give me, pass me the cigarette. Stupid. Anything else on ego? Yeah, you said, you mentioned the thing with your wife where it's like instead of a nice night out at dinner, things are a disaster, yeah. So it's like you're literally talking
Starting point is 00:34:16 from a detached perspective because currently you're not in an argument with your wife or going out to dinner, by the way. So, but that's such a like, it makes it so clear when you point it out, right? So if you can even tell that to yourself in your mind, like, oh, what do you want to do? What do you want to do? You want to go out to dinner and have a good time or you want to be in an argument with your wife for an indefinite amount of time?
Starting point is 00:34:36 Because your ego is a weird thing. There could be worse than alcohol, by the way, but that's side note. So you watched, he watched Training Day, right? Yeah. Hell yeah. So he would say this. He would say, he would do that what you just did. He'd be like, hey, you want to go to jail?
Starting point is 00:34:50 You want to go home. And it puts you into that perspective where it's like, let me think because even if we've never been to jail we can kind of imagine what it's like to be in jail and you're usually there for kind of long regardless if you're getting sentenced or not you're getting held in jail you're not there for a second
Starting point is 00:35:06 you know you're there for it's a shitty day or you want to go home and we all know what it feels like to be home you put those two thoughts in your mind like what's the scenario where he sets this up well the first one is he talking to a perpetrators yeah the first one was and then
Starting point is 00:35:22 and then he said I forget the second one he said it and then Jake the other guy said it to him too at the end or whatever but it was like a kind of a recurring thing but yeah exactly it was like yeah you want to go to jail you want to go home
Starting point is 00:35:34 oh he said it to Snoop Dog that was the second one if I'm not mistaken yeah I felt it check so there you go watch out for your ego let's face it your ego I'm getting I'm once you
Starting point is 00:35:49 internal forces ego is number one I think you're right and I think it's actually just as bad as alcohol, if not worse, because, like, I think it might be worse because it's internal, but when you think about it, think about the effects, the potential effects. Some people, I get it, where they can drink alcohol or have an ego, that can kind of, they'll do,
Starting point is 00:36:05 it'll do some damage. Sure, better to not have it, sure, technically, but no, no huge harm, no huge fault with alcohol and ego. But ego can literally ruin a relationship, many relationships with critical people, like your family, you're whatever, just ego. Yeah, well, you know what's,
Starting point is 00:36:24 What's messed up about ego is you know you wake up from the dumb decision that you made when you were drunk and at least you get to say hey, I'm sorry I'm gonna Jagger. That's what I was gonna say at least you can work and look we're not you have to take ownership of the fact that you were dumb enough to get drunk Yeah, but if your buddy does something when they're drunk and you wake up in the morning you're like dude They're like bro, you're so drunk and you're kind of like you get it right but if they're just doing it consciously Without any impairment it's because their ego it's like they have no control over that just me means that they're just bad. It's exactly right. It's part of your personality, bro.
Starting point is 00:36:57 So it's like, like, Jocco was drunk. He told me, like, that he never really liked me. I don't know, something that was like, bro, it kind of hurt us. And then he can come back the next day and you'll feel the guilt and be like, hey, I was drunk and like, freaking my judge. Like, I don't even know why. You can apologize, really bring up the alcohol thing. And I can be like, I'll see it.
Starting point is 00:37:17 That makes sense to me. I've known. I've had plenty of friends that did dumb stuff. Oh, yeah. When they were drunk and I was like, bro. Yeah, and but forgiveness is very easy. Yeah. And you might be weary next time they start drinking.
Starting point is 00:37:29 You're like, okay, you know, you're going to be dumb again. But when it's your ego, it's like, bro, that's not some external alcohol. That's part of who you are, bro. So you're going to watch out. What about when alcohol unleashes the ego too? Oh, damn the double wind. You know, that's freaking ridiculous. That's rough.
Starting point is 00:37:44 And then you go, even though they're like, I'm drunk. You're like, yeah, but that was what they're just the truth serum. Yeah. The truth theorem's coming out. Yeah. Then even that, though, it's like, again, Again, there's levels to it, which, you know, obviously. But that is a real thing when the ego comes out.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Actually, that's pretty common right there. Like, fuck, I'm so late. Because it can be some benign egotistical stuff you can say. Like stuff that's like, if you could see yourself, you'd be embarrassed. But hey, man, you're not hurting my feelings. So carry on, brother. Wait, say that again? What's this for?
Starting point is 00:38:14 If you're drunk and your ego comes out, you know, start bragging about yourself, all the cool stuff that you did and how awesome you are or whatever. Come on, bro. That's real. Some people do that kind of stuff. But that doesn't necessarily hurt anyone's feelings or nothing. You know, you didn't like do any kind of betrayal type stuff or like flip out on your girlfriend or hit her or nothing like that. Like it's benign, you know, it doesn't like, people can be like, yeah, you sounded dumb, but you're sober now.
Starting point is 00:38:39 So whatever. Like you didn't ruin our relationship, you know. But it's still real nonetheless. All right. Watch out for your ego. Next category. It's actually a pretty big category. The category is called a most.
Starting point is 00:38:53 And look, we start looking at dumb shit that we did. Like how many freaking males between the ages of 16 and 25 have broken their hand punching a wall with their mad? Have broken their car window, have broken their mirror, have put a hole in the drywall. How many guys have done that? Like it's a big number. Yeah. It's a big, big number. So anger.
Starting point is 00:39:20 It's real obvious. Your emotion gets out of getting jealous. people do I mean let's face it people murder people when they're jealous they kill other people and go to and kill themselves and like it's just terrible yeah anxiety you know people are making bad decisions because they're they're totally nervous about what's happening and it prevents them from moving forward guilt now you know there's some of these things look a certain level of guilt and shame like those type of things there's certain certain reasons why you
Starting point is 00:39:53 Those things keep you in line a little bit. Yeah. Is that like, oh, like Echo's supposed to be moving today, but, and I was going to help him, but you know what? I got rather, you know what? I feel guilty. I go help him move. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:05 You know? Yeah. There's a certain level of this stuff that's okay. But it can also, if it's taken too far, can be bad. Envy, same thing. Just getting in that point of sadness or depression where you don't feel like anything. You're worth anything and now you do something stupid. But so emotions can make you do some dumb things.
Starting point is 00:40:29 And what's tricky about emotions is no one, well, I don't know what to say no one. It's very difficult for someone to be able to externally show you that the emotions that you're feeling are not worth the decisions that you're making. You know what I mean? Telling someone that just got dumped by their girlfriend just got dumped by their girlfriend just got dumped. their boyfriend that like hey listen you're gonna be okay you won't even remember that person you know you're in you're in 10th grade by the time you're 23 you will not remember this person's name but you can't tell them that you can't they're just emotionally wrapped up they got the the the anger the sadness the it's all in there and they might do dumb
Starting point is 00:41:15 stuff so teaching people as early as you can to be able to control their emotional emotions and I don't even want to say control your emotions but but imagine being able to harness and not be at the whim of your emotions like surfing right like you don't just learn you don't learn to stop waves from coming you learn to ride the waves and not let them smash you into the rocks that's what you learn to do so learning like oh there's some big emotions coming through me right now I don't want to let those things push me into the rocks or let them hold me underwater I want to be able to ride them and use them and not get abused by them pretty simple straightforward concept but very difficult especially you know uh let's face it when you're when you're a
Starting point is 00:42:13 toddler they have no emotional control you know someone takes their rattle they start screaming right they start climb right little rattle yeah right right and then as you get older you be you be you You should get more and more control over your emotions. That's what's supposed to happen. You might not let, you might still have things happen where you don't get control of your emotions. So the more you can explain that to people,
Starting point is 00:42:39 the more you can explain, like, hey, this is not a good idea. Hey, this is your emotions right now, which is real, look, if you were freaking mad about something, I was like, hey, you're just getting emotional. You're not going to be happy. It's going to make you more emotional, actually. That's why I have in leadership strategy and tactics,
Starting point is 00:42:54 you know the whole idea of reflect and diminish like you gotta show you that I understand your emotions like that kind of thing yeah but don't let your emotions drive your decision-making process that's it that one since it's a part of your natural self emotions it kind of seems like I'm not a psychologist you know this about me it's but it does seem like but it does seem like this since it's part of your natural self you kind of got to train that. Like alcohol, you don't have to train. You just don't drink alcohol.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Simply make the decision. But emotions like you got to kind of train that. Like you mentioned the surfing. Like try to throw someone in me, you know, you know, me have a snowboarding background. So, you know, kind of the same deal. Throw them on a wave. Brother, they're going to be flipping out. They're going to be fighting the wave all day.
Starting point is 00:43:46 You know, even going, you know, like I'm teaching my son to go under the wave, right? When they get big, it doesn't matter how big the wave is. You go under. No factor, you know. But people don't be like, hey, the wave's gonna smash me. Why would I go down there and get smashed? It's like, that's the intuitive thing or whatever. But the more you do it, the more you're like, oh, here comes a big wave.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Oh, my automatic thing is to go underneath, right, after you train or if you have that experience for a while. But emotion is kind of that same thing, where especially if you can detach, word I learned. If you can detach and really identify, oh, I'm feeling this emotion right now. Then, bro, it creates that perfect filter of emotions and behavior. I just feel it. Yeah. Bro, try to get a little only, like, try get not enough sleep and deal with like a five-year-old who's determined doing something.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Bro, that'll be the test. But, and I've done that, say that because I've done that before. And I've found myself, oh, I'm feeling super frustrated with this kid right now, super frustrated. But I'm identifying, I can like see it almost like from a detach and I'm like, I won't flip out on them because I'm not going to make the decision right now to flip out them. It's like perfect, it's that perfect filter, you know. But yeah, you got to train that, though. Because let's face it, if you're one of these people who flips out all the time
Starting point is 00:44:59 and you don't like mentally address it, you're just going to flip out all the time. That's just how. And there's adults that flip out. Yes, sir. There is. It's freaking terrible. And what's really terrible is, you know, if I get angry, if you and I work together and when something's not going on my way, I get angry and you just kind of like back down because you don't want to, you don't want the drama. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I guess what I just learned. That works. My anger is good. It works. My temper is good. And or if you're you know, if I got, if I got my wife and I see that every time I get sad, she kind of like doesn't want me to be sad. So she kind of capitulates to my ideas. Now all of a sudden I'm getting reinforced that my little emotions will help me win. That's a good. That's such a good or your wife can do that to you. You know, like, oh, you know, instead of just being like, okay, these are just emotions. We're not going to, we're not going to, we're not going to deal in emotions. Look, and this, once again, this doesn't mean you can ignore emotions. If your wife's sad about something, you can be like, hey. Quick and emotional, right? Doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:45:56 But no, put them in the calculus, but don't let them be the main force behind your decisions. Not gonna go good. I mean, it's as simple as like when you go to the grocery store when you're really hungry. Yes. Dude, you're making all kinds of emotional decisions. You come out of there, you got freaking all kinds of food. I just went up on a trip and we were going to be on the house. We're gonna be in this house for like four days.
Starting point is 00:46:22 And we left early in the morning and then we drove and blah, blah, blah. And by the time we stopped at the grocery store, I was catabolic. You know what I mean? I was in there buying all. We had enough food for a month. Not real. But we probably had enough food for two weeks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:37 And we were in the house for five days. Yeah. At the end, I was like, dude, I'm an idiot. As a matter of fact, as soon as I ate. Yep. We got to the house, I ate and I was like, dude, how am I going to eat all this? We got, I've been eating. I've been eating that mozzarella with.
Starting point is 00:46:52 the frigid pepperoni no mozzarella fresh mozzarella with basil oh yeah the tomato and the oil and I don't like the tomato
Starting point is 00:47:01 but I put the oil and the balsamic vinegar on it and I got like so much of that I had enough for weeks and I think I had one serving of it
Starting point is 00:47:13 so that's emotional decision it's funny because I everyone knows that but until right now it's emotional decision but it's also the animalistic drive you're like oh food I need as much as I can't
Starting point is 00:47:26 I need to hoard as much as I can making bad decisions you know did you get chips no I feel like chips always sneak in there when you're hungry are you not into chips no no I'm I'm definitely
Starting point is 00:47:39 I'll eat chips I mean chips taste delicious let me say that bro it's so true when you're like right when you eat something you immediately figure out all the dumb stuff you just bought It's so true, so true.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Yeah, we got to the house, unpacked. And you know what the thing is, if I would have had a mulk just before I walked in there, I'd have been good to go. Bro, it helps. It would be good to go. Didn't do it. Brother, Girl Scout cookies, those peanut butter ones? Oh, yeah, no problem.
Starting point is 00:48:08 I get the whole box, no problem. There's no factor. No factor. Have a mulk. Intervene. So there you go. That's kind of a combination, animalistic, emotions, the whole nine yards. Next one, peer pressure, we kind of brought this up already.
Starting point is 00:48:23 You'll do some dumb shit because of peer pressure. Hey, like you said, sure, there's a peer pressure that's like, come on, what are you a wimp? There's that. There's also the subliminal peer pressure where everyone's doing what's happening and they're kind of giving you just a look. They're not even saying anything. They're just looking at you. That peer pressure can make you do some dumb shit. Lack of confidence.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Yeah. is makes you more susceptible to peer pressure. The other thing that you got to remember with peer pressure is, you think everyone's looking at you. Yeah. They're actually not. There's actually not that big of a deal, right? You think like, oh, everyone's watching me.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Everyone's going to wonder if I'm going to smoke this or I'm going to do this. Actually, no one really cares. And the other thing is, there's a level of respect when you hold the line. And you have the confidence to be like, no, no, I'm not doing that tonight. Sometimes I'm not doing stupid. Maybe you don't have to say I'm stupid because now you're getting in an argument you're causing problems,
Starting point is 00:49:19 but just be like, no, no, I don't, you know, no, I don't drink. Yeah. No, I'm not drinking tonight. Yeah. They like the crabs in the bucket though. They like to drag you in there. They like to put that drink in your hand.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Do you remember the first time he's tried drinking? Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. But not really specifically. Yeah. I'd have to think through that. I'd have to think through that.
Starting point is 00:49:44 the first time I tried to drink as like I think as a kid I'd like try a like a sip of beer what does that taste like but I remember the first time I like took a drink you know like it was like straight up peer pressure I didn't start drinking but it was straight up like there was like two guys they snuck in which is weird because our school was pretty like good it was a tame school but they snuck in a thing of crown royal I remember because it had that bag on it and they were like oh come look come come come and one guy wasn't one one year younger than me, two guys were one year older than me. And they were like, oh yeah, here, and they're, and I was just sort of there, because they were my friends, but I didn't drink, I didn't want to drink now. Like it didn't affect me at all. And they were like, here, here, you want some? And I was like, no, no, thanks.
Starting point is 00:50:27 And I knew, everyone knew that I wasn't into drinking or whatever. And they go, oh, yeah, that's okay. And then I looked over, I remember this, this guy's name is Owen. He looked at me, I don't think he even meant to. He looked at me kind of like, oh, like, dang, that's okay. It's okay, like almost like he felt sorry for me, you know? Like, you look stupid right now, but it's okay, it's okay. You know, kind of like almost like he felt sorry for me,
Starting point is 00:50:52 but it was full on, like, almost like unintended beer pressure. So he gave me the same. I kind of looked up to him because he could bench a lot and stuff like that. And then so I was like, oh, give me it. I'll try it or whatever. And I like tried it. He's like, oh, it's warmer. And he was happy after that, you know?
Starting point is 00:51:07 So I was like, that was full on. That's what that. A hundred percent. That's what that was. Yeah. I didn't start drinking until I got in the teams. And for me, it wasn't like a, I kind of made a conscious decision like, oh, that's kind of what we're doing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:20 I was, okay, that's, that's what's happening. Yeah. That's what we do. Cool. So technically that's peer pressure too, boy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Yeah. But it wasn't like, uh, it wasn't this overt thing like, come on, Jocko, you need to. No, no one said that to me. I was like, okay. Looks like we're drinking. I've never really done this before. So let's rock and roll. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:38 And then I was like, okay. Oh, we're going hard. Cool. Yeah. Pass me another one. That kind of thing. My son was a little kid. I'm talking like maybe five or six.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Probably five, like little. And, you know, I had a couple of the boys over whatever we were having some beers. And my son was like, you know, he kind of like he wanted to try some. And I was like, cool. I'll teach him not to drink right now because, you know, beer doesn't taste good to a little kid. So I hand him a freaking rolling rock. And he like takes a sip. And it's just like, within two seconds.
Starting point is 00:52:13 and just like, just start trying to chug the whole thing. Like he took a sip, calculated, and then just boom, like right back up and starts trying to grab it away from him. Like, dude, what are you doing? I did not expect him to freaking go hard. Like that. Yeah, like a little kid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:30 There's a dude on Instagram that, that he's an Australian dude. And he just, like, he just drinks beer. He gets, he does this technique where he like spins it. Yeah, you swirl it. Yeah. Yeah. And he's, and he's. He just chugs beer.
Starting point is 00:52:44 That's his whole thing. Yeah, there's a few of those. Yeah, that's a crazy town right there. It'd be in the morning. It could be in the afternoon. Yeah. It could be in the evening. He's just going to slay a beer.
Starting point is 00:52:56 I forget his name. He cracks me up. That's another form of peer pressure right there. For him? For what? For us? So actually, that technically is not peer pressure, right? But it's like influence.
Starting point is 00:53:08 It's like bad influence, you know? It's like, oh, that's fun. It's lighthearted. It's not that big of a deal. It's quirky. It's, you know. It's not like, it's not like, it's not like, remember the group. It was, I think I'm pretty sure it was just anti-smoking, but they would call themselves like truth.
Starting point is 00:53:23 It would say truth at the end. It was like a bunch of anti-smoking ads. Oh, yeah, yeah. Do these crazy, like, were morbid stunts. They'd lay out a bunch of what looked like dead bodies and be like, there's how many people you're killing every year. And it's all these body bags. Anyway, they do that kind of, it's not like it was that. It's that.
Starting point is 00:53:38 This Australian guy's making it fun. Yeah. Kind of like, hey, like that's the kind of behavior that it. It's like copycat behavior, you know? Like, oh, let me do it, you know? Yeah. No, he looks like he's having a good time. Good old time.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Yeah. It is kind of cool, like, because I've seen some guys in real life do that kind of stuff. And it's like, oh, damn, it's pretty interesting. And he's got, you know, he's kind of got the attitude that just makes it sound like Zellar good time. Yeah, that's real. So that's peer pressure, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:05 But wait, you're back to the teams. Yeah. That is peer pressure because, you know, like you even said this, where peer pressure can be good. If it's for good stuff, you know, so that's like, there's peer pressure in the teams that's good. Yeah. They're like, dude, what do you know? You're not, you know, oh, I was also like, oh, we're running. Like, we're working out.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Like, okay, that's what we're doing. Cool. Oh, we're drinking. Cool. I was just on board for what we were doing. Like, whatever was happening, I was on board. I wanted to be doing what we're doing. Bro, 100%.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Right, right, today. We trained today. Mm-hmm. You know, some good training today was the, you know. So, Vic, text me, or I talked to him on the phone like three days ago. And he's like, hey, we're going to train on Friday too. I was, oh, yeah, cool, maybe. Put it on the radar, you know.
Starting point is 00:54:48 And then he's like, oh, you're not going to come or whatever, all this stuff. So I'm like, no, I said, hey, maybe, you know, boom, peer pressure. That's number one. That's one step closer to the persuasion. He said, I'm going to text you tomorrow as a reminder. He does step two because he told me, text me. Now, if I don't show, I made a decision. I didn't just forget about it like I do all the time.
Starting point is 00:55:07 What was the closer? We know what the closer is. You, and this is actually the most influential. I even told them this today where you when you text you'll put like if you're sometimes you'll offer up some training and I'll be but if I'm into something I'll be like I'm going to catch you next time or whatever but sometimes you'll put hey we're going to record after we capital we train you can't not go at that point it's like hey you got to shuffle some things around I plans to do squats yeah so you didn't do squats why didn't you do squats before
Starting point is 00:55:37 prior to because I trained you're you going to do squats after maybe maybe I'll do squats tonight maybe I will say I'm very very excessively thankful that I worked out this morning yeah and I don't have to go home and work out yeah because that session that we just did first of all I was not having a good day you know what I mean hard day you know what I was just saying I didn't want to go you know I didn't want to go yeah I didn't want to go if there was a little bell to ring I would have been like whoa what's that you know of course I'm not ringing it but I didn't want to go so I know
Starting point is 00:56:12 So that's already going in there like you already are you know you're going to be hurting. Yeah. And then, you know, that mat right there, you're not having any easy rounds at all. Zero easy rounds. You're not even going to have, you're not really even going to have an easy 28 seconds. Yeah. You're not going to have an easy minute and a half. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Even when you're in between rounds, you're like breathing. Yeah. You're focusing on recovery. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So that peer pressure can be a good thing. Yeah. It can also make you do some dumb shit.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Exactly right. So peer pressure technically is like that's not the cat, the, um, the bad guy in the scenario. It's the dumb shit. That's the bad guy. Jack. Right along in there is group think. Right. This is peer pressure, but it's like, it's like amplified peer pressure is group think.
Starting point is 00:57:02 This is where to mob. This is somebody starts breaking shit and you start breaking shit too. You start doing dumb shit. making decisions based on what everybody else is doing bad then there's this whole genre of it of just doing impulsive things and this is sort of a result of a bunch of different things that are happening right some people are genetically impulsive by the way yeah people have genetic impulsiveness sometimes it's based on what's going on inside your brain for as far as a brain chemistry type scenario like dopamine
Starting point is 00:57:36 can make you impulsive to do to get a little bit more dopamine right now even though you know it's not smart I mean look that's what's taking over our minds right now with the people that are on their social media on their phones that's just dopamine they know they're just impulsively swiping their brain is not even thinking about what's happening they're just looking to the next
Starting point is 00:57:56 freaking real yeah or whatever so that impulsiveness is and you know some people have more self-control look I believe just like all of our traits there's a certain amount of self-control that you have
Starting point is 00:58:13 you can improve it or you can let it get worse but I recommend you try and improve it I recommend you pause for seven seconds before you do something impulsive you know what's funny is when people impulsively buy you have ever said someone's like it's an impulsive buy
Starting point is 00:58:30 of course impulse buy that's a thing bro yeah Well, you know the supermarket is set up where that's part of the part of the funnel It's a funnel you get at the counter there's a freaking chocolate bar impulse by all day They put little things that are gonna give you immediate gratification like you're gonna get something that's good you're gonna get to eat in In in nine more seconds. Yeah, throw it in the register throw it in the self-checkout be beep Impulse so that isn't that crazy that you can make dumb decisions you can do dumb shit because you're just being impulsive Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:04 What's the biggest impulse buy you've ever made? Biggest? I don't know. Vehicle? No. No. House? Thankfully, I'm very, um, what's the opposite of impulsive?
Starting point is 00:59:18 Not impulsive. Pragmatic. Deliberate. Deliberate. I'm pretty deliberate with the buy stuff. Yeah. With the exception of the freaking, uh, Reese's sticks. You rate that before, but they're kind of like, you know what kid cats are?
Starting point is 00:59:31 You know, kid cat, right? So it's like a kick cat, but a big cat. Big, big, beefy version of Kit Kat with peanut butter, too. So this chocolate and peanut butter. I don't know if that would, that Kit Kat, especially, the thing about Kit Katz, I used to have them in the summertime. Yeah. From the concession stand. And they were kept in a fridge.
Starting point is 00:59:48 So they were cool. If you like Kit Kat, but you got to like peanut butter too. I do like Peter Rees, but is that like your jammy jam? No, no. I'm saying for me, a Kit Kat, just a cool Kit Kat in the summertime. Yeah. I don't need the peanut butter. Peanut butter is a warm thing to me.
Starting point is 01:00:06 I dig it, but it's different. Yeah, to me, and look, I'm not advocating for this because I'm just talking about impulse spice straight up.
Starting point is 01:00:13 So reflecting on that, that being said, the Risa sticks to me is the best candy bar ever created, like kind of by far too. Like a distant maybe second is like a butter finger scenario or like,
Starting point is 01:00:24 I'll have to look into it. Yeah, it's called Rises sticks. Leases sticks. I'm sure. I know I've bought some impulsive things before and just, And like, dude, I'm not smart.
Starting point is 01:00:34 I can't think of any, though. I'm going to have to think about this one. Actually, I did have an impulse by, but it was, it turned up. What was it? A red camera, the red V-Raptor that I have. No. The new one. Yeah, the white one that have the V-Raptor.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Oh, yeah. So when you buy a red camera, they're good cameras, obviously. So they're expensive. They're expensive, yes. They're way more expensive. If you don't know anything about this, if you told them how much it costs, people would be like, what in God's name are you talking about? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:00 This isn't like, oh. Like $1,700. No. This is a totally different scenario. Yeah. So, yeah. It costs more than your average car. How much is it?
Starting point is 01:01:12 I mean, just to save people having to Google and look this up, how much is a red camera, Raptor, whatever you're talking about? Vee Raptor just for the body, which it's $2,29, or $2499. $24,999,000. $25,000. For just the body, though. No batteries. No batteries.
Starting point is 01:01:31 No lens, no viewfinder, no monitor, nothing, just the body. So you can't even use it. Yeah. You got to buy lenses and it only fits cinema lenses with a full frame. Like, it's a whole thing. And those tend to be a lot more expensive as well. This is 100 grand scenario. For the kit, no, for the V-Raptor and they're way less expensive than they were at the camera.
Starting point is 01:01:52 I thought before that, but it now they're cheaper because they push them out, I think, more efficiently or whatever. But all in, it was like probably for that kit that I have to, that particular one. It was probably like 40 almost 40 like 36 30 and that was an impulse by that was an impulse by and this is why I know So no I won't go too deep into it but when you buy red cameras you're part of like a club Yeah for lack of a better term so when I got the first one way back in the day Red one for people who know cameras are gonna remember the red one it's literally it weighs like 20 pounds It's like cast iron trick you was that was that with the podcast? I did the good video Remember good.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Yeah. That was like episode like five. I did that with the red one. So that was the first one you bought? First one I bought. The only reason I, and that was 25 grand for the body too. This was back in the day. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:02:41 I didn't get it for 25 grand. The reason I got it, they were getting rid of it. They're discontinuing it. This is the least practical camera probably I've ever even touched with my bare hands. So it's cast iron like suit. Like there's no, it's really hard to use, but it's a red, you know? And they're getting rid of them and they're offering certain people on their list or whatever list I was on the opportunity to buy them no it was part of like some form
Starting point is 01:03:08 and so you could buy it for four grand because they're getting rid of them day yeah so I like I didn't know how to use it never use it before I was just like I know it's a deal so I got it and I just freaking spent the next like three months saving up money to get the accessories to be able to use it finally be able to use it for however many years and then they offered to trade it for the new like helium them 8k you know you heard a 4k this is like 8k whatever trade it in you can get a big discount on this thing I was like frick but it's only to a certain amount of people so that technically was an impulse buy too so anyway this how red does it they know how to capitalize in a nutshell yes exactly right in a nutshell if you're
Starting point is 01:03:47 red your emotions too because they're like hey this is only gonna be an offer right now they capitalize on we don't have that many that's the thing it's new we don't have that many so they contact once you're in the red ecosystem is where you go working yep they get you get your emotions working yep to get your animalistic competitiveness working competitiveness is a we didn't talk about that yeah like you'll do some dumb shit just from being competitive yep oh yeah and that's kind that was exactly right where I had the red helium and they were like hey you're on our list you know we're coming
Starting point is 01:04:15 out with this thing called the V-raptor and I heard about it already and all these like all this tech it was like man that was if you have that one that's it's no one else has it only the people on it so it's like me there were I don't know how many people were on the list but like Jason you know Jason MoMA yeah He was on the list. Like, so I felt like, damn, dude. If you got the white one,
Starting point is 01:04:33 you're one of the first people to get it. How many you think they made? I don't know. Do they have a serial number on it? Do they number them? Yeah. I have it. Well, you know, when you insured,
Starting point is 01:04:41 you have the serial number, whatever. But when you know that going in, they're like, hey, you don't have to buy it. You can, if we, if we choose to continue making these, you can, you can wait till then.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Oh, yeah, for sure. Dude. You got played. Oh, yeah, Victor. But thankfully, you know, like when I got it, it was all that. You know, everyone was expecting it to be and, you know, we put it together and it was, it's legit.
Starting point is 01:05:06 It's worth it. The reason that I shouldn't have done it, though, is because I bought the, what's called the monstero. That's the really expensive one at the time. I bought that like literally two months before. So I got three red cameras. Like literally right now, I have three of that original helium, AK, got the monster and then the V-Raptor. Hey, full-fledged production over here. Not bad to record a podcast.
Starting point is 01:05:33 No, no. It's very unrealistic. No, I know. They're freaking crazy. Yeah, but that was in. If you're wondering, we actually, this is not recorded on the red camera because it would be just like crazy amount of data. Oh, yeah. You'd have over a terabyte of stuff just for the podcast.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Yeah. Yeah. It's bad. All right. So watch your impulsiveness. It'll make you do dumb things. Uh, we do the dumb things. just some technical ones here, time pressure.
Starting point is 01:06:01 There's another thing they threw in the mix on you. Like, hey, oh, there's only a certain amount of time. So we do dumb things because we don't have the time. So you have to pay attention to. You have to stay ahead of the power curve. You have to not put yourself into situations where you're going to do dumb shit because you didn't have time to do it the right way.
Starting point is 01:06:20 There's a couple here that are sort of, well, I guess these two kind of connect as I was thinking through them. People do dumb shit because they lack experience or they lack information. These are both a little bit harder
Starting point is 01:06:36 to control yourself because it's the classic you don't know what you don't know. It's so you actually really truly don't know. The best you can do to cover the bases and mitigate these is to know
Starting point is 01:06:53 that you don't know. To know that you don't know. there's things that you don't know to not be like oh I got this oh you know well I can figure this out you know to to put yourself in that situation you should be more humble I think humility is what helps you with these two you know when you don't have the experience it's it's like the person that shows up for the Jiu-jitsu that like is a street fighter yeah and they're like bro I can I like they look at some skinny freaking 150 pound dude and they're like bro I'm gonna beat
Starting point is 01:07:23 this guy's ass and they just literally don't have the experience if they and they don't have the information so you this the the solution for that to me is humility it's actually saying hey my I'm not so sure about this you should never look at anything and think yeah it looks pretty easy yeah and now you should think like well there's some to some things I don't see there mm-hmm there's some information that I don't have yeah that's what that should be your go-to default mode is my I'm not a hundred percent sure and I'm gonna keep my eyes open as I try and figure this out yeah
Starting point is 01:07:57 otherwise you might do some dumb shit you know about plumbing yes I do so I was talking to Kina about this very thing today so I don't know anything why the hell were you talking about freaking plumbing with Kina it's a thing want you talk about Jiu-Suitzzi I would do talk about Jiu-Sitza okay plumbing go so I had an issue with a toilet in my household okay and it was you know like a thing where something had worn out or whatever and so I'm like a flapper valve something it was like the little thing that connected the the I want to say the flush valve okay you see I know all these terms now because I looked into it but this is a
Starting point is 01:08:36 classic case of me not knowing what I don't know so I go in I'm like you know I'm like you know look it up on YouTube like I solve many of my problems in my life and you know figure it out so I look it up on YouTube and it's like boom they just you got the diagram we got a guy do this or whatever and I'm like cool I even looked it up just on on the internet like a diagram so I'm like cool I understand how this whole thing works now, right? So I go in. And of course it doesn't like work out the things just as broken as it ever was. I don't know what materials. I'm like, all right, let me just study this whole thing. So I go back to YouTube, keep watching it. So I found this channel. I wish I could tell you which one
Starting point is 01:09:07 what which one it was. But it was one of these like kind of bigger channels. Like a it could have been like a Home Depot channel or something. I don't know if it was or not. I forget. But so the guy goes into it and it's this long ass video and I'm about to skip it because I need to solve it right now. I'm saying, but I'm like, no, let me just commit some time. So I commit the time, and he starts talking about all these issues that can arise when you're just trying to fix this one issue. So he talks about, like, his experience with certain times where he had to fix this issue. So this one time, I was still having this problem. So I had to go back over here because sometimes these are made like this.
Starting point is 01:09:39 And he's doing all this. He's basically giving me, like, his personal experience on this thing. And for every additional thing that he would say, he demonstrated to me how much I don't know. and how much it's not just like, hey, you're going to go in and he's going to tell me how to do it. So what was the outcome? I ended up fixing it. It's a longer story and it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:09:57 But that was me not knowing what I don't know. So I wasn't about to take apart my whole toilet because that was one of the... Luckily, you were humble enough to recognize that there could be some shit going sideways. Yeah. Literally. Exactly right. Like before I made like a big commitment to, you know, because one of the options that I came across in my haste was take out the whole
Starting point is 01:10:18 toilet and just replace the whole toilet. But obviously I didn't have to do that. We're not looking to do that. Yeah, not knowing what you don't know can cause you to do that kind of dumb stuff. Yeah. Where it's like, oh, well, that's the option because that's the first advice I got or whatever because in my mind, that's the only advice that I've ever heard. So do it.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Yep. The humility will help you with your lack of experience and your lack of information in life. And it's just really good to remember because you don't know what you don't know. And so you think you know and you don't. And right in there too is another one similar as lack of self-awareness. Right? You're just not self-aware. So you're doing dumb shit because you're not self-aware.
Starting point is 01:11:02 You think people can't see the dumb things that you're doing. You think you're out maneuvering people. All those things stem from the fact that you just, you're not self-aware. So how do we gain self-awareness? Number one, if you think you're super self-awareness, aware you're probably not you're probably not so take a step back detach that's what we have to do there I had to throw this one in there because it does happen physical and mental fatigue right sleep deprivation like all those when you get tired you can do
Starting point is 01:11:35 some dumb shit that's that's what can happen and people make bad decisions when they're physically tired people make bad decisions when they're mentally tired and they just break down you have you ever watched True Detective? Yes, but not very much. Okay. There's this part in True Detective. It's really good.
Starting point is 01:11:55 I didn't want, the second one got a bunch of bad reviews, so I didn't watch it. But the first one's freaking great. Woody? No. McConnor. Yes, Matthew McConaughey plays this badass character. And he's talking about, he's looking,
Starting point is 01:12:14 he's a detective, he's talking to, to some other detectives that are investigating him and he's talking about how he's looking at dead bodies like photographs of dead bodies over and over and over and again he's seen all these dead bodies over his time in the in the police force and he says he's it's great you got to watch it but he's talking about how when you look at these pictures these dead people you can see that just before they died they saw for a moment how easy it would be if they just let it it go like at that moment of death they go you know what it's over and and he goes on this big thing about they realize that all the love and all the hate and all the things were a dream that you had inside a lockbox blah blah blah goes through this thing but that's a extreme example of what happens when people just break they just break from fatigue right they just break they just can't take it anymore and they just go you know what I'm done.
Starting point is 01:13:18 That's one thing. That's like the ultimate bad decision that you make is like, oh, I just give up. But there's all kinds of bad decisions that you can make based on the fact that you're tired. Sometimes it's not mentally breaking. Sometimes you're just not thinking straight. I don't know if you've ever been around people that are, they're legitimately, they're so tired, they're not thinking straight. You know, you get people that have been seriously sleep deprived. They might be, they might be doing some dumb shit.
Starting point is 01:13:41 So I had to throw that one in there physically and mental, physical and mental fatigue. can definitely make people make bad decisions. And now we're going to open up a big can, something you and I have talked about on the underground podcast quite a bit, which is cognitive biases. And people have a bunch of different cognitive biases, and they will make you do dumb shit. So confirmation bias, you know, when you, when you have a belief,
Starting point is 01:14:14 you're looking to confirm that belief, and you will absorb the information that's going to support your decision. And you're going to do some dumb shit because you just are listening to the people that are telling you that it's smart. You know, you can find, oh, for instance, like let's say you don't like to run.
Starting point is 01:14:35 You can go find a bunch of articles right now that'll be like, oh, you can actually find running is bad for you. You can find enough articles that'll confirm that you're right, running is bad for you. Yeah, lifting heavy. You don't like to lift heavy? Cool, you can go find a bunch of articles that injury prone and blah blah blah, blah, stiffness and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:14:52 You can find it. So you will make bad decisions based on the fact that you are, you have confirmation bias. Availability bias, a similar one. This is like you act based on the most recent information or the most available information. This is why, you know, when you Google something, you're like, oh, what's the best, knife to buy. There's people that are paying to make the most available click
Starting point is 01:15:19 the one that comes up first. Somebody paid for that. And so therefore, it looks like this is the best knife. Came up, there it is. Boom. Anchoring bias. This is when you get addicted or you rely on the first piece of information that you have. That's what first impressions are so important.
Starting point is 01:15:38 First impressions, very important. This is something I used to see in the SEAL teams, which was whatever, the first impressions. The first impressions, first way someone learned to do something is the way they thought was correct. And it was really hard to change people's minds around a new procedure. If they had learned in their first platoon, this is how you do it. So you've got to be careful that that piece of information that you got first. And the same thing. This is like, I think we talked about this when we talked about negotiation, right?
Starting point is 01:16:13 You can use anchoring to offset somebody. You know, I can use it to mess you up. I can give you a low ball offer that you're now anchored to. And you're like, geez, Jocco offered me $7 for this knife. I thought it was a lot worth $700. And I'm like, I'll give you $7 for it. And all of a sudden, when I offer you $50, you're like, I'll take it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:34 So be careful at hindsight bias. the tendency to believe that an event was more predictable or obvious than it actually was after it occurred. I knew he was going to win that fight, right? Yeah. I knew he was going to win that fight. I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 01:16:55 I think I'm pretty good at when it comes to MMA, it's almost like all bets are off. It's almost like I just look at it like I just don't think I can predict what's going to happen. There's and this is for a reason there's been fights that have happened where I was like this is a hundred percent This is a done deal. Although I did it the other night did you watch the fights the other night? Yes Yeah
Starting point is 01:17:17 Watching Valentina get beat Like I the announcer John Anick Said like as what was the other girl's name? I don't know Yeah like she came out of nowhere props to her She's a badass The John Anick says oh and she's got much improved jujitsu and I'm like bro that's what you're bragging about that she has man she she ends up with a rear naked choke victory over bullet valentina amazing I don't fall into this
Starting point is 01:17:50 trap though but I did that night I did I was like dude this is good luck against you got improving jiu jiu jitsu and that's your and then she got a rear naked joke but I immediately was like dude I'm an idiot I'm not saying anything else I've I if I would have bet and there's been a couple times in my life where I did bet actual money on fights and I was wrong and things that I was like this is a done deal. This is a done deal and just been wrong. But I'm certainly not a person that gets done and says yeah, I knew that was going to happen. So be careful that hindsight bias. Framing bias. This is the way information is presented or framed. So, So if someone, like if a doctor says this has a 90% success rate, that sounds better to them than saying, hey, if I do surgery on your arm, it's 90% going to heal.
Starting point is 01:18:48 You'd be like, okay, cool. If I say, hey, if I do surgery on your arm, 10% chance it doesn't work anymore. You're like, wait a second, what are you talking about? I should just tell you 90%. That's the way it's framed to you. That can mess up harder. That makes you do dumb shit. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:01 So you ever watched Teen Wolf? Remember back in the day, Teen Wolf? I never got into that. Was that a TV show or was it a movie? movie then they did a TV show later but I'm talking about the movie the original Michael Michael J Fox so he had a basketball coach named Bobby Finstock one of your class one of the best characters ever created my opinion but super like just checked out coach just so used to his tradition of losing he's like you
Starting point is 01:19:24 know anyway he had a famous like pregame speech is there like hey coach you got any inspiring words or whatever he said he's like uh yeah um Hey, you guys have nothing to be ashamed of. Go out there and do your best. That's what he said. So it's like, of course, you know, like the facts are nothing to be ashamed of, do your best. Like that's all factually true. But how he framed it was like, you guys already or we all have like things on our mind that we're ashamed of, you know, about this team, which, you know, they were losing teams or whatever.
Starting point is 01:19:56 But how he framed it was like, you guys already lost, you know. You don't be it. You got nothing to be ashamed of kind of a thing. That's that framing. Does, in Teen Wolf. Does the guy turn into a wolf on the basketball court? Yeah, yeah. And they, like, let him play.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Yeah, and he's all good at it. Yeah, he mutates or whatever. Yeah, yeah, and then he's all good. He can dunk and stuff. And then he turned super popular in school. Girls are attracted to him for some reason. He's literally got hair. He's like hairy.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Yeah, he's half wolf, werewolf, whatever. Check. It's a fun movie, though. Some things that'll make you do dumb shit bias-wise, overconfidence bias. Clear what that is. And there's also under confidence bias, right? Like, you don't think you can do it.
Starting point is 01:20:39 Well, you're probably not going to make a good decision. You know, if you've got an opportunity to do something, you're like, I could never do that. Cool, then you don't do it. And now you don't get the win. Or overconfidence, I could do this, no problem. Make your decision and you end up looking like a jackass. So be careful.
Starting point is 01:20:56 That sunk cost fallacy. These are all kind of ones that we know about gambler's fallacy. the belief that past events influence the likelihood of future events even when the two events are unrelated. For example, believing that a coin toss is more likely to land on heads if it has landed on tails several times in a row. That'll get you. It's still a 50-50 chance, man. Oddly enough, it's still just a 50-50 chance. That's a weird.
Starting point is 01:21:27 It doesn't seem like it is, but it is. That's one of those, I mean, most cognitive biases fall into this, but you kind of, you kind of, kind of got to train yourself in a way. And like you have to be super aware. Because that one in particular, just like how you mentioned, it doesn't feel like it. And that one's really hard to like believe at first, especially when you're like,
Starting point is 01:21:46 because there's ways to look at it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because so if you're like, if you're like, hey, I have this coin and I'm going to flip it 10 times in a row it's going to land on heads. That's a different set of odds right there. Then you actually flipping it and then it happens to go on heads nine times in a row. And then the likelihood of it landing on heads
Starting point is 01:22:03 again is still 50 50. But before you flip any of the coins ever and you say, I'm going to flip it 10 times in row, then you got a different set of odds and it's crazy. So you're saying. So some people and I'm one of these people because I thought I had roulette figured out. Oh, I was about to bring up roulette like many people where I thought that. I was like, because I was thinking of it like before any rolls have done. So I was like, hey, if I get, you know, if I'm going to bet on red or black or whatever and
Starting point is 01:22:31 I'm going to just keep betting on that red because the. I the the chances of it landing on red like however many times it rose become smaller and smaller and smaller exponentially so I'm guaranteed to win at least my money back so it's like a foolproof system see what I'm saying you figured it out yeah that's what I figured and um it's it's green you're like well after every roll the odds go back to what they were in the beginning so technically doesn't technically yes that's true but as you start rolling it's different it's did you do the thing where you like double your money that you're betting and You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:23:04 Yeah, I never did it. Yeah. I never played. I mean, yeah, I never did my system. I just thought I had to figure it out. So basically you can do like, oh, I bet a dollar on black. Right, right. If I lose, I put $2 on black.
Starting point is 01:23:16 If I lose again, I put $4 on black. Right. If I lose again, I'll put $8 on that. Yeah, that was the system, essentially. It's not going to work out. And what's weird, what makes it not work out is not only that it resets, but there's also the two aughts, the two greens on there. It's not 50-50 bro.
Starting point is 01:23:34 It's not. Yeah. It'll catch you. Let's see. Halo effect. This is like when you judge people's overall characteristics based on one characteristic. Like that'll make you make bad decisions. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:51 Illusion to control. This is our, we think we have more ability to control things than we actually do. That's going to make you do some dumb shit. negativity bias and optimism bias these two are you know just what they sound right if you have a negative attitude well if you you you will lean in that direction you might make bad decisions because of it so there you go there's a bunch of biases cognitive biases that you can that that pay into us making bad decisions and look there's a bunch of these the last one I will say to cover today and this is one that I think echo Charles
Starting point is 01:24:33 has had the biggest impact on your life since you and I started hanging out and discussing all these topics and that is short-term thinking versus long-term thinking strategic thinking versus tactical thinking anytime you consider what the long-term outcome is going to be you will make a smarter decision if you just focus on what I'm going to feel like or how I'm going to be gratified in the next seven minutes. Yeah. Yes, sir. That will lead you to doing dumb shit.
Starting point is 01:25:08 So think strategic. Think about the long term with all decisions that you make. And you will do a better job, making better decisions. So there you go. These are, this is my list, some examples of some of the many, many things that there are. that drive us to make bad decisions that drive us to do dumb shit. And I also think you need to think about this.
Starting point is 01:25:35 What kind of person are you? You have to know what kind of person you are. You have to know what kind of person you are. You have to know what tendencies you have. Because you have tendencies. I have tendencies. And if you start applying these various subjects, these various examples,
Starting point is 01:25:54 these various factors that can make you make bad decisions, you're going to know that there's some of these. things you're more susceptible to you're maybe you're more susceptible to your animalistic behavior maybe you're more susceptible to your ego getting out of control maybe you're more susceptible to some of these cognitive biases that we're talking about but knowing who you are so you can watch out and you can lean in the other direction to make sure you make better decision is also an important part of making good decisions so know what kind of person you are and
Starting point is 01:26:26 Don't let your tendencies get the best of you. So the way that you can kind of make that happen is by detaching. And one of the easiest ways to detach is to take a step back and write things down. I'm just saying when you write things down, you are detached from them. You can see other perspectives. Ask yourself, what would, if I was someone else right now and I was looking at me and I was about to do this thing, what would I tell myself? No, I can afford this vehicle It's a car I've always won it's my dream car
Starting point is 01:26:59 Well, your payments are going to be $1,700 a month I know, but this is going to be It's going to make me really feel good about myself And also clients are going to see me in this car And they'll know that I'm a player Like yeah, but you only make $4,000 a month I know, but that's going to grow up It's like
Starting point is 01:27:14 What would you be telling yourself If you were talking to you You'd probably be saying, hey man Let's go Let's go look at the Chevy And write down also write down what the long-term outcome is going to be Versus what the short-term Gratification you're going to get and that will help you to do the right things and to make good decisions
Starting point is 01:27:41 Very powerful. Seems small. Yeah, it seems almost too simple, right? Oh, that's the solution to improve my life probably like 75 to 85% Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's a big number. In any given, any given endeavor, but most of all, in the big game, in the big game and the life game, if you can not do dumb shit, you can be way better off. Seems so easy.
Starting point is 01:28:10 How about this? I would even say this. This is how powerful every one of these is. If you just took, I don't know, let's say the first one and the last one, we'll say. First one, alcohol. So Carrie, Carrie K dogs, you know, we all know him, love him. He, the way he, because he doesn't drink, he quit drinking. So he put it in a way where I was like, hmm, that's a really impactful way to put it.
Starting point is 01:28:31 Even though it's, we knew the idea, but he put it. This is what he said. He said, well, you know, after a while, like, you know, you get in trouble when he's talking about himself. It's like, you get in trouble when I drink and I get myself in trouble when I drink versus, oh, I don't drink. And every single aspect of my life just gets better and better and better and doesn't stop. It's a more logical decision not to drink. Because I think I was asking him, it's like, that's cool. you don't drink. So I was like what? You don't drink at all at all. I was like, why are you like,
Starting point is 01:28:59 you think you'll just relapse and go make cause trouble? He was like, no, it's not necessarily that. And then he said, that's what he said, where it's like my life gets better. Keeps getting better and better and better and better and does not stop. That's what he said. Little decisions. It's true. Stack them up. So you stack that on to what the last one was, the short game versus long game. Like think about that. Whereas like that's on your radar with every kind of move you're making it throughout your day. Oh man, no drinking clear. Oh man, you'd be doing some good stuff.
Starting point is 01:29:30 No drinking long term. Yeah. It's gonna move you in the right direction. Oh yeah. Awesome. Hopefully this helps people out. And with that, we gotta make a decision on what we're putting in our bodies, right? Fuel wise. Fuel wise.
Starting point is 01:29:44 I had a milk right when we got done training today. Yes, sir. Me too. So good. Very nice. It was earned. Bro. I'm telling you that he earned milk.
Starting point is 01:29:52 Did you do all rounds today? Did you take any? No, I took one round off and then towards the end, you know, when everyone was kind of done. Today there was no really like, hey, we're all done. That's what I felt. Yeah, it kind of faded. So I took one round off aside from, you know, Sloan and them. I kept going a couple times.
Starting point is 01:30:09 Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I took one round off. Yeah, it's a good time. I felt that I earned my milk. The idea of no easy rounds, you think like, oh, yeah, sure, we're there, did you just to you at rest between. rounds or whatever so it's like to say it doesn't sound as impactful as it actually feels because when you have like let's face it you you're rolling in the mix class or whatever and this is not good bad this is the nature of rolling jiu-tis-tons inspiring what you're about to say yeah like that's a
Starting point is 01:30:39 good type of train yeah in the class you roll you beat this guy up you get a little bit swept you got someone that's even you're getting a bunch of different looks yep bunch of different looks and varying levels of output but it's like if you even want to do jiu jiu jits in the environment like this where everybody's black belt and in kind of better black belts your output has to be kind of at the top the whole time otherwise you're kind of not even doing jiu jitsu you're just being a dummy like a jih jih Tummy for the guy yeah because everyone's so good so you go through however me you usually do like 10 rounds right usually yeah so let's say you do even you do the eight or nine rounds of that bro it's like it's way different than doing 10 rounds in the mix
Starting point is 01:31:23 class you need fuel you need that fuel you're gonna do did you have a go on your way there I had a go on the way there I'll tell you what I was I didn't want to train like like if it wasn't for the commitment you know because I'm not you know obviously I'm showing up plus plus you kind of pressured me into yeah plus I pressure you not to go but uh man I had that had that go on the way you know just walked out of my house grabbed a go drink it on the way down here, finished it in the locker room. And by the time, like, I got out on the mat. And I was warm.
Starting point is 01:31:51 I was like, yep, I can feel it. Yeah. I'm ready to go. Attitude change. Yeah. My attitude changed. Last time when I came and trained with you guys in this, um, Sesh, I didn't really feel like training, but this time I did.
Starting point is 01:32:05 I did feel like training because like I said, I got reminded of it. It was on the radar. I had, I wasn't rushing doing other stuff. I was like, bro, I'm completely ready. You need, you need time like mentally to prepare. Yeah. And I feel like. Like, you know, actually, no.
Starting point is 01:32:19 Here's when I need mental time to prepare when it's just me and you. That's true. It's true, man. But like this guy, I don't, you know, because like you, I always feel like I have like something to prove. Because like if you like really beat me up, I don't feel good. Like I feel like, oh, you're just going to like hold it over me. And then if I do good, I'm kind of like, I don't have to say nothing, but I can be like, yeah, whatever kind of a thing. I feel like there's a little bit more.
Starting point is 01:32:44 At stake or writing will say it. But this guy, I don't feel that for whatever reason. I feel like it's like, say, everyone's so cool too. So my mind was kind of put it this way. I want my thoughts and what I was doing throughout the day, they weren't interrupted by, okay, now I got to go train. You know, and I'm like, freak, I was just thinking, I'm still thinking about this a little bit.
Starting point is 01:33:02 Now I got to go train or whatever with these hard guys. I'm like, frick, my mind wasn't even there. But today, today I had time. Today my mind was there. Nonetheless, a lot of output. And yes, I had the go on the way down. All good. It's a go do it then mulk then mulk great after a good procedure for life you got a
Starting point is 01:33:20 you got to try the super cold milk bro I'm telling you okay you'd be happy well my wife makes this banana mok in the morning with the banana mulk yeah the powder man she does a good job with that now she makes me like a little extra little later because normally I don't I don't like to eat that much in the morning yeah and I'm talking this after I'm talking this is like nine o'clock you know oh after the workout after the workout you know She'll kind of like bring a little mulk to me. She's got hers in like a shaker. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:48 But they just bring me a little glass. No, yeah, you're sophisticated. Yeah. It tastes so good. So yeah, get yourself from go. Get yourself some milk. And you can get this stuff at joccofuel.com. That's where it's at, man, joccofuel.com.
Starting point is 01:34:02 You can also get it at vitamin shop. You can get it at the military commissaries. I got a bunch of my friends hitting me up from the military comment. They send me pictures. Yeah. You're like, yo. Hanford dash stores H. E.B. Meyer, Wakefern, Shop, right. Wawa, we're selling Wawa, go grab some in Wawa. There's hostilities, man. In these convenience stores, there's hostilities, FYI.
Starting point is 01:34:25 There's big companies, and I mean the biggest of companies, the biggest of beverage companies. They go in to these convenience stores and they buy those slots. They buy the shelf space. You know why they do that? Because they're threatened. It's a threat. We are a threat. We are a threat. And we are like, we are like the rebels in the Star Wars, right? The empires are, look, the empires, if you're flying around, they don't really care. Once you threaten them, they got to come, they got to fight. And that's what they're doing. So go into these convenience stores, clear the shelves, let them know what's up. It's us against the empires. The empires, by the way, are trying to poison you. We all know this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:12 They're doing evil things. That's the crazy part about it. And you mentioned this on some, I don't know, one of your Instagram things where, you know, they'll call, you can call it like these industry standard like kind of, you know, oh, yeah, it's just general advertisement or whatever. And you call it brainwashing. And I'm like, oh, I go ahead of being dramatic. But then I thought I was like, wait a second. That's exactly what it is. And, you know, they use all, actually some of this stuff where it's like, you know, framing bias, like all this.
Starting point is 01:35:37 Where, yeah, they'll just, they'll say the good, like, parts of it. there can be like three good parts of something short term by the way three and then there's like 12 bad parts of it short and long term 12 they won't say any of the 12 and they'll do it and then they're like here you go here's your little product drink as much of it as you want in fact let me put something in there to make you want to drink as much of it as we want you to right knowing it's bad for you knowing if you drink the more and more and more and more of this stuff you drink the worse and worse and worse health you will have literally not that's not a metaphor that's like literally the deal so Also, I learned this thing, and I don't want to speak too much into it, but I heard this thing.
Starting point is 01:36:15 It's a girl on a podcast, and she was like, America has, so here, bear with me, this is just what I heard. America has this thing called single dose toxicity or something like this, where, and look into this, but keep this on your mind. America is a thing as far as regulations go, single dose toxicity, meaning like if it's harmless in one dose, it's fine. It's admissible to be in your product. But you take 10 doses, the toxicity goes 10 times. It's no longer single dose technically, but that's not the rule. The rule isn't 10 doses. The rule is single dose toxicity.
Starting point is 01:36:48 So you get a energy drink, single dose toxicity. You get a, you know, maybe you have some chips or maybe you drink a soda for your thing. Or maybe you're eating something that's not like all natural, whatever, which, let's face it, you know, it's hard to navigate that sometimes. Now you've got your toxicity out five times, 10 times. And these guys are just pushing it. The more the better. And then, to the point, they're saying, oh, this, Jocko go, all natural, no toxicity, all this stuff. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:37:17 Of course they're going to buy that. Let's fight against that. Literally the bad guy. The rebels doing the good stuff. Good stuff. So there you go. Go get some. Go get some Jocco fuel.
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Starting point is 01:38:05 I was up in Montana. People were asking me about the hunt line. Yep, the home line's live, man. You can order your hunt gear. So go check that out. That's what we got going on at origin USA.com. Also representing on this path, Jocco store. Go to jocco store.com so you can get your good, good shirts.
Starting point is 01:38:25 Shirts is good. I think I'm going to make a few more other variations in that one. Okay. I want his legs. That was a good one to represent. People who fired a guy, I was at the Expo West, which is the natural foods. Event and I went up there. We were showing people jocco feels first of all it's it's crazy how many people know me and like I didn't know you had supplements I didn't know you had a drink. I didn't know you had ready to drink protein like people didn't know that
Starting point is 01:38:49 I mean a lot of them did but a lot of them didn't a pretty big number but a dude came up and just started saying the good video like word for word I was like Jack in the game. Oh yeah but what's crazy is he didn't know he had he said the whole video like memory we were laughing he's like I didn't know you had supplements. I'm like yeah we're We got him, man. I'm sorry, I'm doing a bad job putting out the word. But there you go. All good. This path, all kinds of good stuff on it. Also, discipline equals freedom, too.
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Starting point is 01:39:26 We'll call it a sneak peek. I can kind of see what you're dealing with in the general way. For forthcoming? For the current, current month. Yeah, yeah. So it's like a, it's not a surprise, but it's not a full reveal.
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Starting point is 01:42:47 And to everyone else out there, life is a series of decisions. Every day. Little decisions, big decisions, decision after decision. But all those decisions have consequences. They can have good consequences. They can have bad consequences, but they have consequences. They put you on the path in life. So make good decisions and don't do dumb shit.
Starting point is 01:43:23 And until next time, this Zekko and Jocko. Out.

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