Jocko Podcast - Jocko Evaluates Celebrities Slapping Each Other. Will Smith / Chris Rock. Oscars.

Episode Date: March 29, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So, Will Smith slapped Chris Rock. And obviously a lot of people are talking about it. I guess we're talking about it now too. But here's the thing. My first reaction, honestly, when I saw this happen, I was, you know, thought to myself, hey, this is what happens. You talk smack. If you talk smack, occasionally, you're going to get smacked, right?
Starting point is 00:00:29 That's what happens. And the reason I feel so, I was, I didn't think much about it. I said, oh, he's got smacked. I kind of chuckled, whatever. But then everyone started getting like hype about it, right? Okay. So when you're in a seal platoon, occasionally someone's going to get smacked, right? But you're on a construction site.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Occasionally someone's going to get smacked. I guess more back in the day, but still, when you're at your house with your brother, someone's going to get smacked, right? I mean, it occasionally happens. Things escalate. Now, does this mean that I condone violence? Right? A platoon scrap is not violence.
Starting point is 00:01:16 You know what I'm saying? Like two high school kids on the same football team that get in each other's face and maybe there's a takedown happen. Maybe there's a couple slaps. I guess we could include that violence but I don't I guess I condone that kind of violence is that bad no and it's for a specific reason okay like you're talking about mutual like accepted like like two people fighting that's
Starting point is 00:01:42 different yeah like walking up to you know there's a reason though first of all a platoon scrap is not actual violence it's attention release and it and it establishes or maintains or keeps maintenance of the pecking order now here's the thing mind you Just like chimpanzees, right? You know how the chimpanzees, the physical power, like the biggest, strongest chimpanzee, he won't actually maintain control of the tribe. Because eventually if he's an asshole,
Starting point is 00:02:12 the other two or three chimps that are a little bit smaller will gang up on him and put him out of power. It's the same thing in a seal platoon. You can't just go around beating everyone up or you're gonna catch a beat down. So there's a, there is times when, oh, there's gonna be a van fight, right? Or the two platoon guys,
Starting point is 00:02:29 going to go out behind a mill van and throw it down so that that stuff's going to happen or occasionally someone's going to get slapped up for running their suck and so it's a thing things occasionally get physical and by the way a slap isn't like a crazy thing a slap doesn't really damage right a slap doesn't really leave damage it's more humiliating than anything else right it's a it's a humiliation thing it's a statement but it's not to knock someone out if I want to fight you. I'm not going to slap you. I'm going to punch you in the face, right? A closed fist is totally different. If I close my fist and punch you in the face, I'm trying to hurt you. Now, listen, don't get me wrong. If someone slaps you, you're kind of authorized to retaliate.
Starting point is 00:03:17 You could say it's on, right? But tell me I'm wrong here. Whoever slapped you just gave you a warning that you're out of line. They're giving you an option to assess your behavior. and stand down. I've slapped people before and had them stand down. So they might be right, right? If you're getting slapped by someone and you go, oh, damn, like I didn't realize Echo was so sensitive about this thing, and I went too far, and I assessed and go,
Starting point is 00:03:53 I crossed the line. Now, if you punched me, it's on, right? There's really no choice, right? You're if you are you agree in agreement that there's a difference yes you punch somebody you have effectively started a fight it's a fight if you slap someone you've really checked them You pot you need to be ready to fight Yeah because it's totally acceptable that if you get slapped you can pop you you you're fighting yeah but there is a difference between closed fist punch and a slap to the face So you might have deserved the slap now did Chris Rock deserve to get slapped? In my opinion, no.
Starting point is 00:04:36 He's a comedian, bro. He's a comedian. He's roasting people. That's what he does for a living, by the way. He's going to roast. Anyone in that that comes to that thing is a viable option to get roasted. And has always been like that, by the way. Always been like that.
Starting point is 00:04:53 And by the way, Will Smith is a famous and successful actors, not like he's picking on. You ever heard that thing about punching up? Have you ever heard this? It's okay to punch up. but it's not okay to punch down. So you're not allowed to make fun of, and this is, I actually mean this sincerely, you're not allowed,
Starting point is 00:05:10 you shouldn't be making fun of someone that is in a less powerful position than you, right? You shouldn't be making fun of, you know, the, if you're out for dinner and you're a wealthy person and there's a waiter and you start, you know, belittling the waiter, you might get slapped. Because you're punching down, but it's generally more okay for someone to take shots at someone that's above them and
Starting point is 00:05:39 why is that well because the person's in a position of power they can kind of shrug it off so this room by the way is filled with all people that are all rich and all famous including will smith and including his wife she's an actress too you know so she's famous will will smith slapped him upside the head so why is that why is that why did that happen and I didn't really know I don't know much about celebrity people about Hollywood right I don't know much about this scene but when I saw that I saw the replay right mm-hmm because I'm not obviously sitting around watching these Oscars so I see the replay and I thought immediately I thought to myself he's got
Starting point is 00:06:26 some issues right and he got specifically probably has some issues with his wife I don't know anything about this dude but I looked and they play in the replay you could see he was like will Smith was laughing That's a funny joke. He looked at his wife. She was pissed. Then he gets up and smacks Chris Rock. And were you going to say something?
Starting point is 00:06:53 No, I'm listening. Okay. So, well, if I'm wrong, please tell me if I'm wrong, because I'm just kind of, I don't know everything about this. I don't even know about these people, right? Yeah. There's a bunch of different separate elements that make up this whole incident. Well, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:07:07 after I said to myself, there's something wrong with this dude. There's something wrong with their relationship. It turns out I was 100% right. I was 100% right. I found out that his wife, that Will Smith's wife, she's, and I don't know the details, but 100% she's been involved with other dudes, right? Which is, apparently they split up for a while or they were together or whatever, but she was out with other dudes.
Starting point is 00:07:32 And I read a little section, she got interviewed about it and said she got. What's that? They both did. Okay. They totally went public with that part. Well, check this out. She said she got, quote, entangled with some other dude. And then this other dude writes a rap song about being entangled with her, like, as if what that actually means.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yes, sir. So you got all this stuff eaten at Will Smith. Yeah. Right? I mean, this is eaten at him. Now, what? I always thought, to me, in my opinion, I didn't know anything about Will Smith. All I know is what I see, you know, on the front lines of media, right?
Starting point is 00:08:11 This is the fresh prince of Bel Air, right? He just seemed like a nice squared away guy. That's what I kind of what I always thought. I didn't know about all this other stuff. I didn't know he had this crazy relationship with his wife. She's out being with other guys and stuff. That's got to drive him crazy, right? He's frustrated.
Starting point is 00:08:28 And then it's like they got money going to Scientology. I'm uncovering this kind of stuff. If he gets wild real quick. So he's got all kinds of stuff. He's got issues. And this is like a road rage incident, right? Or a person that swears at the cashier in the grocery store, right? Yeah, kind of.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Or a person that starts a fight in the bar. They're not mad at the cashier. They're not mad at the person that cut them off. They're not mad at the person they're bump into in a bar. They're having a bad day or they're having a, in Will Smith case, he's having a couple bad years, right? Yes. So they're going to lash out.
Starting point is 00:09:05 And it's not good. it's weak. It shows insecurity. I mean, you're super insecure if you got to lash out like this. It reveals a lack of control. And it's just not strong behavior.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Because the strong person's not going to get bothered by this kind of thing. It's a joke, right? You can't let it. And this goes for her too. Yeah. Right. Is there anything better to do if I go echo, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:35 you wish you had some hair. Is there any better response than for you to say, I wish I did too? Ha, ha, ha. We all laugh, right? Or for you to be like, hey, don't make fun of my hair.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Bro, like all day long. It's not a laughing matter. In fact, you gave one of the best responses I've ever seen on social media. And I'm being totally serious. One of the best responses. Somebody on social media, I posted about a podcast
Starting point is 00:10:00 and somebody wrote, somebody wrote, I don't know why the other guy, echo in quotes, even talks. He's got nothing to offer. He doesn't bring anything to the table. And I wish he would just be quiet and let Jocko talk. And you responded and you responded and you said, honestly, I think that's a pretty fair assessment.
Starting point is 00:10:22 And I was like, dude, Echo just won the internet. That's how you respond when someone's trying to, you know, trying to get in, you know, trying to get their little mark in on you. So when you go in the other direction, you get super defensive, it's showing that it's bothering you. It's showing you that you are insecure about the situation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:48 If you're a strong man, right? You're kind of in an unassailable position. People can say things, you know, it's not going to really bother you. When you're a weak person or you're a weak person, or you feel like you're in a weak situation, you feel exposed and you feel like you got to lash out. But there's nothing, especially when someone just talks to you,
Starting point is 00:11:12 nothing's going to, someone that's a strong, powerful human. They don't get bothered when someone chirp chirps out of it. Just rolls off their back, whatever, man. But if you do get bothered, then there's something wrong. There's some kind of insecurity there, which is exactly what I think this revealed. Will Smith is probably insecure about his position that he is in with his wife, which is a bummer, man. Like I said, he seems like a nice guy.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And he acted out in a way that makes him look like that. Look, could you say, look, he dishonored my wife? That's what it was essentially all about. There was there was there was there's the you could go the path of look, this guy dishonored my wife. Hey, if someone touches your wife. wife, cool, you're cleared hot, right? If somebody does something that's, like, radically offensive to her, like, maybe they say
Starting point is 00:12:10 something that's just off the top ropes offensive and you feel like you got to, you feel like you got to crush somebody, cool. Yeah. Go. Go. Okay. But if someone makes a joke about her. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:26 bro, it's kind of cut and dry with that part of that. Oh, okay. I didn't know it was cut and dry. Yes, because here's the thing. Like you said, kind of cut and dark because it's not quite, yeah, nothing's really kind of. But yeah, but okay, so you're saying disrespect. Yeah, if someone disrespects your wife in front of people, all this stuff,
Starting point is 00:12:45 which, which that's kind of the two issues, right, that people are either for this whole incident or against the incident, like for Will Smith or, you know, a guy, a guy standing up for his wife, you know, beautiful, right? People think. or it's like, yeah, a guy can't take a joke or a girl can't take a joke, whatever, right? Which, the thing is, bro, what is it? He's not standing up for his wife.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Brother, that was a joke from a comedian about a feature of Jada Pinkett Smith. She has alopecia, which is the same as, it's balding. That's all it is. It's not like cancer, so she had to shave her head or nothing. It's literally only for looks. That's what it is. The hair losing, okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Not to say it's awesome. I'm not saying that, but he made a joke. He didn't disrespect the wife. Disrespect her. You can disrespect someone's wife, to me anyway, this much and catch a beat down in front of everybody. You mean a very small amount. Yes. That was making a joke.
Starting point is 00:13:36 That was like a roast. Like that's part of the game that they're all in. Roast, that's the word. Yeah. Like, look, disrespecting is the kind where it's not a joke. Where it's like, oh, like, I don't know if you would have said something like, hey, you know, you kind of deserve that or something. Something that's not a joke, something that's disrespectful. Now, now you go into the realm of like, okay, well, Will Smith and Jada Pinkett's Smith.
Starting point is 00:13:57 That's who really couldn't take the joke, is the girl. Will Smith has just suffered the consequences of the situation. Because of what you said. This is what it seems. I probably can't read his mind. I don't know, but this is what it looked like. Where, yeah, he's laughing. Then J.P.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Smith, of course, she's not laughing. She's rolling her eyes. And then it kind of cuts. And then all of a sudden, Will Smith's mad and going up on the stage of costing the the freaking host of the freaking award show. And, but yeah, it's like a roast. Everyone gets roasted for worse stuff than that, by the way. not just for balding like
Starting point is 00:14:28 but brad guys are balding all day every day and guess what they get teased about their bald head every single day all day and then all of a sudden are you getting sensitive about that all? All of a sudden it's this big disrespectful freaking attacking someone's wife and then this hero standing up for him
Starting point is 00:14:45 no bro you guys couldn't take a joke because you guys are all sensitive and weak that's what it was in front of everybody the opposite of hey this guy's tough and great because he's standing up for his wife actually this guy's weak because he couldn't take a He didn't take a joke.
Starting point is 00:14:58 And then he stands up to Chris Rock, by the way. What if it was another, who's a tough comedian? Dude, what about Joe Rogan? Let's just go, Joe Rogan. You think Will Smith's going to stand up to Jordan? No, no, no, no. He's going to take the beating from Jada Pinkett Smith. That's what beating he's going to take.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Dang, look you. Chris Rock, and what's Chris Rock going to do? Nothing. Not going to do nothing. Yeah. Will Smith knows that can stuff. Well, as far as Chris Rock goes, my thoughts on Chris Rock, First of all, this this dude got caught completely off guard completely and utterly off guard
Starting point is 00:15:32 Don't ever ever ever let someone walk at you like that in any situation with your hands down and don't And and don't lose control of distance right don't let someone enter your space without getting your hands your feet and your body into a fighting position now look this doesn't mean that you square off Does it mean you put your dukes up? Yeah. But you raise your hands. You know, you've seen this before. Like this is what we teach in jihitsu. Someone starts approaching you.
Starting point is 00:16:02 You put your hands up kind of like the, hey, I don't want any problem. But now you're protecting your face and you're ready to do something. You switch your stance from being square, which, you know, your square stance where you were just facing completely forward. You switch, you know, you drop a foot back and you put your hands up. And that kind of looks like you're backing away, which you are because you're creating some distance. So you don't. you don't let anyone ever walk at you without getting yourself in a position where you're ready to fight. Now listen, the dude had good reason, a good excuse for this, no excuses, but his excuses, bro, he's at the Oscars.
Starting point is 00:16:38 He's talking to a world famous guy that's about to win an Academy Award of, you know, a guy that's worth hundreds of millions of dollars. And this guy is a known, this guy that's saying stuff, Chris Rock is a known actual comedian. and the standard protocol at these things is people get roasted. So here's the deal. Lesson learned for everybody. No matter what the situation, someone starts walking at you, you get your hands up,
Starting point is 00:17:07 you get ready to defend yourself, and that's what you do. And by the way, Will Smith actually ends up kind of looking weak too because he sucker punched the dude and Chris Rock barely. I actually checked. He takes, after he gets hit, he takes like a half a step back.
Starting point is 00:17:23 And it's no factor to him other than it's humiliating, right? So then once he got slapped, he made a choice. He actually made a choice. And he kind of read it the way that I was talking about earlier. He wasn't assaulted. People like, he got assaulted. He didn't get punched in the face. He didn't get knocked out.
Starting point is 00:17:45 He got slapped. And he read it as a warning that he had crossed the line. line. And like I said, the slap didn't even phase him. It was a weak slap. Like he he chuckled immediately. He was laughing. Yeah. It made a joke. Well, that took him a second, but it barely moved him. He and then he kind of laughed it off. And you could see Chris Rock was totally like shocked and surprised and he didn't really know what to do. So he lightened the mood. He tried to make a joke. He said, Will Smith just smacked the shit out of me. He's trying to de-escalate, right? Trying to de-escalate. Good for him, you know. He's trying to
Starting point is 00:18:20 trying to, he's a professional, he's trying to de-escalate. And sure, there might be people right now, like, you gotta be kidding me. If you get stopped, well, he's trying to maintain this whole freaking big deal. What's he supposed to do? We're gonna, we're gonna get a fight right now. We're gonna get a brawl. He decided not to do that. And he decided that, he decided probably almost instantly that this guy's got freaking issues. Like this guy, you know, it's like when you're driving your car and somebody cuts you off and they start going crazy. You're like, you know what, this guy has issues. This guy's having a worse day than I am. And Chris Rock realized real quick, Hey, Will Smith's having a worse life than me by a long shot.
Starting point is 00:18:53 He might be rich. He might be famous. He might be a movie star. He might be getting an Academy Award. But he's has a worse life than me. He's hooked up with a crazy woman apparently. They're in weird, cultish activities with Scientology. Like, this is a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:19:05 And so Chris Rock completely surprised, tries to make out of, and then Will Smith starts yelling, dude. Yeah. And swearing. And Chris Rock's like, it was a joke, dude. That's literally what he says. It was a joke, dude. And and then he yells again, keep, gave my wife's name out of your fucking.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Like, you can tell now, okay, he's, this guy's not, he's not healthy, right? This guy's not okay. And then Chris Rock, again, you got to give him some credit. He totally detached. He didn't lose his temper. He just act like a, he actually act like a man, right? Now look, is there part of me that if he would have like ducked and, delivered like a left hook and knocked this dude out, that would have been, that would have been
Starting point is 00:19:53 kind of epic, right? Yes, sir. But he didn't do that. No. Because he already failed nine different ways by letting this dude get up and get close to him. So he already screwed up. But I'm talking after it happened, what was his reaction? What was he going to do?
Starting point is 00:20:05 Like run after him and have people hold them back and start that whole thing now that he would have really looked stupid. So he was caught off guard by this happening so bad that it took him a couple seconds to realize. And once he realized the position. he was in this is where this is where I'll give him credit once he realized the situation he was in he didn't make it worse yeah yeah he salvaged it to the best of his ability and by the way you know he had to put his ego and check to do that right he he had to put his ego in check to do that to stand there and be like hey everybody that guy's got issues and I don't I'm actually I'm actually a
Starting point is 00:20:42 grown-ass man that is secure in myself and I'm not going to react to this idiot that's losing in his mind over his wife that obviously has issues. So he de-escalated. Now, if he wanted to, if he gets fired up now, dude, he could rip this guy apart. I mean, verbally, like he could go, he could make a YouTube video that would get 100 million views of him just bashing this guy making fun of him.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Hey, this guy slapped me, I didn't even feel it. Oh, hey, wait to be, you know, he could just go off. He could pull their whole freaking weird relationship. this open relationship, the fact that this girl's been running around with the guys, the fact that they're in a weird cult, you know, like all this crazy, he could just rip them up, he could rip him apart, he could rip her apart. He could do that. He could do that.
Starting point is 00:21:33 He could shred him like in a YouTube video. But I think, Ashley, the power move, I think the power move would be to say, hey, listen, Will Smith is clearly not happy. He's clearly having a tough time in his life. I never would mean to hurt anybody's feelings if I knew it was going to affect him so deeply. I wish him the best. I hope he heals up.
Starting point is 00:21:55 I hope everything works out. That would be kind. And Chris Rock doesn't have anything to prove, bro. He's a legit guy. He's a self-made guy. His mom was a school teacher and his dad was a truck driver. He's one of eight kids from Brooklyn, right? And he's one of the most famous comedians of all time.
Starting point is 00:22:15 And he's one of the most, Famous comedians of all time. So he doesn't have anything to prove. But, you know, once he got smacked, he already looked kind of dumb, letting it happen, getting all nuts afterwards, like I said, would have made him probably look even dumber. He wasn't even hurt. He wasn't even phased. So, like I said, he shouldn't let it happen.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Don't let people get in your face like that. Don't get emotional, you know. And don't let people. talking smack affect you emotionally like that. It's just embarrassing. And imagine if Will Smith, if he would have done that and he would have gone up to the microphone late, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:02 when he got his award and he would have said something then, something that he could have thought through and said something powerful. You know, if he said, listen, you know, my wife has this disease and it can be really hard, especially in this industry. And, you know, to me, the most, the reason, you know, I love my, My wife is because of who you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Like he could have, he could have really risen above it and come across like a really powerful good dude. But unfortunately, he lost his temper and, and just caused this whole scene. So what can we learn from it? Keep calm. People are going to talk smack. That's what's going to happen in life. Don't spawn up.
Starting point is 00:23:43 If you're getting mad, it's probably because you're insecure or they're striking at some level of truth. so be careful of that and remember that if you're the one that's talking smack you don't know what the other person's going through you don't know what kind of day they've had and if you run your mouth you might get smacked so don't be surprised if you're running your sock if someone gets up and slaps you in the face
Starting point is 00:24:03 so and that means don't let people get into your personal space without getting into some kind of a defensive posture that's what I got those are some thoughts I'm sure I'm not right I'm sure I'm not right I'm sure there's some things that I don't know about the situation because I don't know about these freaking weird Hollywood characters That who despite their fame and their money and their luck and their entourages and their position of elevation in our culture
Starting point is 00:24:35 They're still just human beings and we human beings are still just animals So try not to act like one Stay safe everyone out there and do me a favor be nice to each other but wait though so wait so what's the so there's no consensus then for you like like was it right
Starting point is 00:24:57 was it wrong there's 40 there's probably 114 critique points where this could have gone in different directions yeah so it's not like right or wrong there's a bunch of right and right or wrong decisions that are made the whole way right you're so right because you started this thing this thing when you're saying
Starting point is 00:25:13 um you gotta expect okay so okay there's the two sides right where it's like okay you got a comedian making a joke right so people when you make jokes about someone especially if you make a joke about a girl like a like a roast joke to a girl in front of her husband just think just think about that regardless of where it was oscars no Oscars whatever you're you're making a joke about a girl roasting a girl a female in front of her husband if you were to take a multiple true or false a and B question do
Starting point is 00:25:47 Would you expect to get slapped by the husband or would you not expect to get slapped by the husband? Brough, half of us would say yes. You should be more than half. They're both right. You know, like to put it this way, any answer is not surprising. Right. If I roast a girl on the street, now a lot of times I get it where it's like comedians, it's a joke and it's in a setting with a joke or whatever. The rule doesn't change.
Starting point is 00:26:07 But check this out, bro. You and Sarah Charles go to the comedy club, the comedy club, whatever it's called in La Jolla. Yeah. And you're sitting three rows back. You're not in the front row. And the dude looks out there. He sees Sarah Charles. And she's like, you know, she insults her.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Or sorry, he, the comedian insults her. Yeah. So if he. Right. You're at a literal comedy show. Perfect. Yeah. That's actually a good question.
Starting point is 00:26:35 So I'm at a comedy show, right? And a comedian makes it depends. It depends on the joke. So, okay. So even that, that is a bunch of different parts. Wait. What? I mean, dude, there's like the level of joke insult would have to be insane.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Insane for me to get me to stand up and smack a dude. 100%. And by the way, I wouldn't slap him. He would have to say something where I'm attacking him to kill him. I would say to answer your question, if put it this way, the worst realistic scenario is like that he'd say something about Sarah that she's insecure about that really hurt her feelings. But that doesn't warrant me going to be in trying to beat up the comedian It doesn't warrant me that at all Yeah
Starting point is 00:27:19 But first of all like that And this is just my side of the thing Not the comedian side The comedian side you gotta expect that kind stuff You start roasting girls and the husband comes to the smacks you Bro, you got to be ready for that 100%. 100%. But I'm not the comedian in this scenario
Starting point is 00:27:34 I'm the guy Okay, there's a difference between how you feel And then how you behave I've said that before Where yeah you're gonna offend me What's the grown up thing to do? For real. Like I understand defending your wife and someone's attacking your wife and standing up for your wife like all I understand that
Starting point is 00:27:49 But at a comedian show yeah and a guy makes a joke even if it's a shitty joke yeah and it hurts your wife's feelings Br, that's different yeah, bro, you don't like the show we'll just leave yeah yeah yeah I'll be like hey you want to leave I get it you know and you just leave that's not not defy you're not failing to defend her honor just because she got offended by the joke yeah brother's a whole different thing you know what's interesting about this is let's say let's say I was the comedian right and I'm 230 pounds and I'm up there and I start ragging there's some guy that's 70 pounds or whatever 150 pounds and he's a nerd and he doesn't train
Starting point is 00:28:27 and I start ragging on his wife right he knows that he can't fight against me right and that's real obvious right but here's the thing let's say the roles are reversed. I'm in the crowd. There's a 150 pound nerd comedian up there. I'm there with my wife.
Starting point is 00:28:48 And he starts talking, he starts insulting my wife. I actually don't have the riffs or the, what's it called, like the schick to talk smack back. He's a professional shit talker. So if I engage with him,
Starting point is 00:29:05 I'm actually going to lose. He's going to make me look even stupider. He's going to make, oh, you can't put this end, oh, that your best comeback? I mean, he's got all these things ready. So it's an uneven fight. So it's kind of an uneven fight for Chris Rock. They said that he told that joke during rehearsals and no one, everyone was like laughing
Starting point is 00:29:20 and thought it was funny. They were laughing even during the thing. Yeah, everyone laughed. So, so you have an unevenness of you've got someone with a microphone and you've got the person in the crowd and you've prepared to insult them. And you probably have some comebacks ready. Well, just because that's what you do. So that's why I'm saying even to, you know, if even if you're going to yell something back, you're engaging in combat that you're going to lose.
Starting point is 00:29:47 That's my point. If you're like, don't talk about my wife like that. You know, what he's going to say to you next is going to destroy you and her. Right? Yep. It's going to destroy. So what your best to do is laugh. And look, if she's totally insulted, cool.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Well, we'll walk out. And even as you walk out, expect to get stabbed with some shots in the back. because that's exactly what he's going to make fun of you. Oh, she must be real insecure about that. I can tell why, you know what I mean? Like it's coming. It's going to happen. So it's best to keep control over your emotions.
Starting point is 00:30:20 It's best not to give people the satisfaction of, you know, if they can see it on your face, I mean, they're calming in hot. That's one thing you learn in the SEAL teams, right? If you show that you're, if that's whatever they're saying to you bothers you, they're coming at it. So don't let that happen, man. So there's another theory, too, about the Will Smith, Chris Rock thing. So this is the thing in 2016, Chris Rock was hosting again.
Starting point is 00:30:49 And he was talking trash about Jada Pinkett Smith. He made a joke about her roasting her again. She wasn't there. I think that was the time they were boycotting it, maybe. Oh, no, I forget. So Jada Pinkett Smith, not there, not at the Oscars. So they were like something about Chris Rock's jokes had something like this,
Starting point is 00:31:07 where he said, oh yeah, Jada Pinkett was like, yeah, I'm not coming to the Oscars or whatever. I declined to come to the Oscars. And then he said, hey, you can't decline to come to the Oscars. That's like me declining to go into Rihanna's panties. I was never invited in the first place. That was the joke. So there was that went on. So he was roasting her since 2016.
Starting point is 00:31:29 So maybe Will Smith, because he said, keep my wife's name out of your mouth. Maybe that had something to do with it. So I'm saying, maybe it was boiling, boiling over. Yep. And again, if you're Will Smith, bro, man, you got, you got to let this stuff like run off your back. He's a comedian. Yeah. He's a comedian.
Starting point is 00:31:47 And it's just going to be awkward now. You know what it kind of felt like, too, when you watch it? Because, like, he went up there, smacked a little guy around and just walked, turned his back to him and walked back all casually and almost kind of proud. You know what it really came off and smelled like? Like, like, like, entitlement. Like, I'm Will Smith. I can just roll up and smack guys this. smaller than me, weaker than me, because I get salty about their jokes and just walk back to my seat.
Starting point is 00:32:11 It was super entitlement. So you were a little pissed off about that whole scene, huh? It was pretty whack. It was a bad look for sure. And I wasn't pissed off, but I was more like you can see the violations on both sides. Because comedians will do that too sometimes, where they'll just make jokes and they're up there, this little guy. Like, you know, this guy's not prepared physically for this thing. And I learned this when I first moved here to San Diego.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Where in Hawaii, if you talk trash to somebody, you just got to be 100% ready. Ready for cracks. Yeah, for cracks. Exactly. For at least this crap. Yeah. And this is not a, like, there's no exception. Like, you got to be ready for that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:50 So in San Diego, I moved to San Diego. And I get it. It's a little bit more of an upscale club or, you know, a little bit more entitled folk might frequent. So, man, the way they would talk to me was like, bro, it was baffling. It was confusing to me. But then you can see it in their eyes. They're like, bro, this guy's not ready for. any physical confrontation.
Starting point is 00:33:08 And that's how some comedians can be. So I was a little bit salty with that too. I was like, oh, Chris Rock, you know, you, you know, Brother Man brought it back down to the streets and, you weren't ready for it, bro. Even though he did handle it good. And it wasn't even that hard. Like, well, you know what it did? When he swung, he kind of almost like he was almost trying to dodge it right at the last
Starting point is 00:33:26 minute. So I don't think he connected as hard as it could have. Weak. Weak behavior on both, on all sides. Right. You got to be careful with that good stuff. Right on. Anyways, I guess we'll add our freaking stupid opinions to this whole freaking dumbass situation.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Don't put these people on a pedestal. They don't deserve it. Stay calm out there. Be nice to each other. That's what I got. We'll catch you all later.

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