Jocko Podcast - Jocko Underground: How to Never Get Frustrated... Ever. How to Find a Leadership Void and Stef Up Like A Champ. Money VS Passion.

Episode Date: June 25, 2021

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This is the Jocko Underground Podcast number 23, sitting here with again with Echo Charles, Echo Charlie, as they say. Sure. I wanted to talk, speaking of laughing and just chuckling about stuff, I want to talk about a different kind of emotion that we sometimes feel. Frustration. Anger or annoyance. Frustration. The definition of frustration is anger or annoyance.

by your own inability to either achieve something or change something. That's what frustration is. Again, I've started to pay attention to when I'm talking to clients, when I'm dealing with people, I'm starting to pay attention to what's happening to them. You know, the last one we talked about, balance. And I see when I deal with people, and I talk to people and I coach people. people through certain situations. I see them getting out of balance is a

It trips people up or jams people up as you know as you like to say This is another one people get frustrated. What's what's interesting about the frustration is look you can get frustrated with people for sure But you can also get frustrated with an animat objects. I know the the running joke in my family is that I get frustrated with printers Sure. Yeah. Printers number one or whatever but it's It's all kind of ingest.

So, but when I see it impacting people, and I just wanted to talk a little bit about it so we can look at, what do we do with it, right? It's a thing. It's a real thing. We have to utilize it, actually. One thing that we realize when we get frustrated, you're not going to do any better by allowing the frustration to impact the way you're behaving. It doesn't help.

The anger. that you're feeling, the frustration that you're feeling is not going to help you get any smoother. It's not going to help you get any better. It's not going to help you overcome that problem. It's not going to help you interact with that person so you can change their mind. All those things are bad. All those things are bad. So we can't allow this to impact us.

We have to contend with what we've got. We have to work with it. So I would say one of the, I started getting frustrated the other day. Sure, dang, sorry. Yeah, started getting frustrated the other day. What happened was, and the reason I want to talk about this is because I started getting frustrated. And then I, this is how I over, I'm going to talk about how I overcame the frustration. I was, was, was had a late night.

I was up too late. I had actually decided like, okay, you know what? It's 1.30 in the morning right now. I'm not going to get up at 4.30. I'm going to, you know, sleep until whatever, probably six. So I did that. So got up at six and which is pretty rare for me, but look, if you're going to get three hours of sleep, that's a negative. That's not, that's not a good move, right?

You may have to at some point, but it wasn't a good, wouldn't have been a good move in this situation. Sleep until six. Cool. So I sleep until six, six, 15, something like this. Get up, get out of bed, put my workout gear on. well, what's interesting is now at 6 o'clock in the morning, I'm not alone in the house, right? My wife's downstairs. So now when I go downstairs, I'm ready to work out, but, you know, my wife's going to be saying hi, you know, going through the morning procedures of hello.

And as you and I talked about on the last underground, you know, we have to remember that relationships are part of the path. So, hey, my wife's kind of stoked that I'm talking to her. It's early in the morning. She's up. I'm up, you know. So what do I do? I spend 15 minutes talking about whatever things, you know, we're hanging out for a little bit.

Cool. So now it's probably more than 20 minutes. So now it's like pushing 6.45, 7 o'clock, right? But now I get up to the garage gym. And I chalk up. It's a pull-up day. So I'm going to be doing pull-offs. I'm going to do muscle-ups.

So I start my warm-up routine. Stretching a little warm-up routine. I'm doing a couple, I hang on the bar for a little bit, then I just do like a one pull-up, two pull-ups. I'm too like my first warm-up set. So it's been 10 minutes. No, maybe not 10 minutes, but it's been five minutes.

Enrolls my son to the gym. So normally I'm done. That's kind of our little unwritten rule. I've got until seven, you know, right? You know, so I'm up at 4.30. I'm in the gym by 5. You know I'm working out doing whatever stretching get done by seven you know all things Normal I'm done he's in there and he's not alone because he's got his his little crew that he

Lifts with and trains with well they come rolling in they're already they've already been working out So they went for a run or something they went up to the track and did sprint so now they're back now they're there to finish off leg day by the way So uh you know he's like are you almost done? But he's kind of looking at me with a tilted head because he sees that I'm not dripping with sweat so he's like, are you, are you almost done? And I go, no, I, you know, I just started.

And he goes, well, he's like, can we work out first? Can we work out right now? And I'm like, what do you have? Because I figured if they're doing something, maybe they're doing kettlebells. We could kind of get it done. I could use the pull bar. He's like squats.

And I go. Now, Meanwhile, I knew I had some editing to do. Like, just, I was going to do a quick edit on something for Eschalon Front. I was like, cool. And I had text with Laf and he's like, hey, can you take a look at this? I'm like, yep, absolutely. So I go, you know what?

I'm going to go. You know, I said, hey, go ahead. How long you need? He's like an hour. This is my son. An hour. I said, cool. So he goes and starts, he's working out.

So I figure, you know what? I'm going to go take a look at this document that Lave sent me. So I go start going through that and all of a sudden, well, as I'm doing that, I get another, I get Jamie sends me. Hey, can you take a look at this? So I'm like, okay. So now I'm editing. Now I was just going to edit it short. Now I'm looking at a longer document.

Now there's a couple sections that are highlighted for me to look at. But as I change one of them, now I'm going to go now all of a sudden I'm rewriting stuff instead of just editing. But I at the moment, this is where the frustration came in. So now I'm kind of pissed that I haven't worked out yet. And oh, yeah. And like also I had a phone call, not a scheduled phone call, but like an unscheduled phone call

that was not an emergency, but a scenario that needed to be dealt with. So now I'm talking through this for 38 minutes or whatever. So because I was thinking, look, I'll still be able to get just jumped out in the gym, whatever. So now I realize I got more work to do. And as I realize that as I look at this document

that I'm going to have to rewrite some stuff and it's not just an edit, but it's a rewrite. I have a moment. of like, damn it. Like, damn it.

Like, I didn't sign up for this today. I had plans, right? And there's a frustration left. There's a frustration. Right? Little frustrated.

This, this is one, it was not what I was, this was not on the agenda, right? So I have this little bit of frustration creeps up. And look, I don't get frustrated very easily, but I had just a little bit,

because now I'm missing a workout. I was still, even though I, even though I woke up a little bit later, I still was only operating on like four and a half, five hours worth of sleep. So I'm Matt.

I'm frustrated about that. I'm frustrated about my son being in the gym when I should be in there. I mean, I had chalk on my hands. Like there's a certain protocol in the world that shouldn't be violated. And it was. And now this document that I was going to, you know, you think, oh, can you take a look at this document?

Cool. You're thinking four, seven, maybe 10 minutes. Now I'm starting to, now I'm looking. I've got to rewrite stuff. So the frustration level starts to escalate. And as soon as I felt that I was like, cool, you know what? Boom, get to work. That's literally what I said.

I said, you know what? Get to work. I just let that frustration just let it go, man. And I got to work. That's my point is that frustration can really end up being more of a distraction than anything else, where you start getting frustrated about something and it's making you mad. And it turns more, it turns whatever you're doing worse, makes whatever you're doing worse. You want to hear a funny story?

Yeah. So Leif Babin and I, sure. We are at the muster in New York City. And again, this was our second muster. It's our first muster out in New York City. There's things happened. We failed to plan certain things.

We didn't do things in the smoothest passable way. We underestimated the time. it would take for things. There's a bunch of mistakes that we made that we were had to deal with. And by the way, there's the muster starts at 4.45 in the morning for the, for the attendees, and it ends at, you know, six o'clock at night, day one, and it's the same thing on day two. That's what the attendees are going to see, right? When you're at, when someone attends the muster, that's what they're going to see. They don't see what happens in the hours in between those things. But at this particular muster, the New York was the worst muster.

from a logistic standpoint for a whole bunch of different whole bunch of reasons all of which are on me because You know we're running the mustard echelon front and so when things aren't right there's only one person boy But that's where we're at so one of the things we have to do is sign Certificates of graduation right like hey everyone's going so we're so for whatever multitude of reasons It's it's like one o'clock and the morning to I think it's actually I think it's actually two o'clock in the morning we are gonna go PT at 3 30 in the morning and Laif and I have got a stack of 850 there's 850 I think attendees at the muster and we've got to sign 850 of these

certificates everyone else is asleep so it's sometimes it makes it I know it might sound diva-ish but if you have to sign a bunch of stuff and someone's helping you it makes it a lot easier right there's someone put in front of you there's someone taking away and passed it to Laif and so we can get it it done in one third of the time. Yeah. If you have someone helping you. Because think about it, you got to, the things are sticking together as all these.

That makes sense. So, so we start signing these things. So I'm just signed. I'm, I'm just signing a boom, boom, boom. And Leif, he starts going, some of these are. So that is a little excerpt of what we are doing on the Jocko Underground podcast. So if you want to continue to listen. Go to jocco underground.com and subscribe.

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