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This is the Jocko Underground Podcast number 123.
123.
Echo Charles sitting here with me.
So I was talking to an individual the other day.
This individual was not in a great spot.
I was one at a, we'll say an event.
Individual's not at a great spot.
And he kind of said, yeah, I was the podcaster.
I wonder if you have any recommendations.
And I was like, for what?
He's like you know just like my you know just career wise and kind of relationship wise and
Like finances just kind of he's just like looking for broad life guidance. Okay cool in the game, you know like let's go
So he didn't have a great job
He was had been bouncing around in various relationships
Didn't have a lot of savings
Renting a condo you know leasing a car
and she's kind of giving me a lowdown and I said well because I asked him what you need help with
and he's like well you know I don't have the best job right now and I'm got you know I can't find
the right girl and I don't have much you know don't have much savings and I don't know in a house
or anything and she's going through this um and so I'm like you know okay well how you know how this
happened like how'd you end up here and I wasn't looking for like I wasn't looking for a call
I was actually just trying to get the context of the scenario, right?
How did you end up?
Like how'd this happen?
Like, because you know, sometimes it's, hey, I got divorced.
I had to restart, like looking for that kind of thing.
Oh, I changed careers or whatever, you know, whatever.
I'm looking for sort of how we ended up here so we can sort of figure out a course of action to go.
And so he starts giving me the, the life story type thing.
And so I'm listening.
And this entire thing, this entire thing.
entire life story was I'm not kidding his entire life story was a litany of all the people places and things that had put him in his current situation
the whole thing starting when he was young like his dad left right does dad left his mom that's where this story begins and then his mom had a bunch of different
boyfriends coming in and out and teachers in school in where he lived in where he lives and he lives.
lived didn't care the football coach football coach didn't like him so he quit I think like his
junior year quit in in two a days right during two days my coach just didn't like me
okay counselor in school recommended that he go to trade school after high school like
Hey, you should go to trade school.
You should get a and he didn't want to go to trade school.
He wanted to go to college.
So guess what he did?
Neither.
But this was the, you can probably see what I'm going with this.
This was the fault of the counselor.
He, he went to see a recruiter.
Recruiter lied to him in some way.
And so he just didn't join the military because the recruiter told me it was going to be like this.
And then I found out that he was actually lying to me.
So I'm not going to the military.
So the decision that he made was because the recruiter was.
or had lied to him.
Fiancee scenario.
She was crazy.
Now he doesn't trust women anymore
because she acted this and she did this
and she cheated on him and then she lied
to his face and then they made up and then she did it.
So we had this whole thing going on.
And then there was this boss
and there was that boss
and then there was this industry and that industry
and there was this company and there was that company
and then there was the dot com burst.
Yeah, this guy was not quite my age.
but that's why because I don't know if they talk about trade school anymore they used to it's a freaking good thing
but he's you know he had the dot com the dot com bubble burst and then oh eight the economic thing
and this just went on and on and on for you know probably five minutes and none of it not one time
Did he say, I messed up?
Like normally if you say, you know what, the recruiter lied to me,
and I just, I was an idiot and I got all mad,
and so I just didn't join the military.
I should have joined.
He didn't say that.
It wasn't like, you know, my football coach didn't like me
because I was kind of a punk and I acted like an idiot.
He didn't say that because there's no lessons learned.
That's the thing.
There was no ownership of anything that had happened.
It was just everyone else.
and everything else.
The dot com burst.
The dot com.
Like, who got?
Okay, I get it.
Dude.
I get it.
If you were a freaking person
with a startup that had funding
and you had value
and you had invested some money,
but dude,
some normal dude doesn't lose
in the dot com bubble.
Right?
Sure.
Dude, I had $1,800 invested in
freaking www.
dot com.
And I lost my
$1,800. Like, that's what happened. That's a worst case scenario that happened to this dude.
Not one time did he say, here's the mistake that I made. And of course, bro, I'm talking to this guy.
He listened to the podcast. He read extreme ownership. He read dichotomy. He read everything.
And he talked a good talk when we were talking about that. But when we talked about the situation
that he's currently in it was all about everyone and everything else this is a very it's a very subtle
it's a very subtle thing that occurs um you know like the way that the devil maneuvers and the devil
you know dresses up like a pretty girl and the devil does these things
that you don't really notice and all of a sudden you're doing things that you shouldn't be doing and the next thing you know it's too late you're going to hell
The demon is a liar. I used to say that to Sastone quite a bit because it'd be something going on
I'd see him getting pulled off the path
The demon is a liar. These are little lies that are coming in
got to watch out for these things because you don't know
that because the demon doesn't look like a demon bro yeah the demon doesn't look like a
demon doesn't have horns doesn't have a fangs not red it's actually probably
attractive you see what I'm saying this is what's going down and and that attraction
can be every different type of thing whether it's that money whether it's that freaking
what's the the car the the Pugati car whatever that thing is like those things
things look good. Whether it's the job and the status, those things can look really good.
The stuff can be a lie. And notice I said it can be a lie because sometimes it's like, oh yeah,
guess what? Bugatti is a good car. It's fast. I'm sure it handles well. They haven't driven one.
There's jobs that are really good and you can help a lot of people and you can grow businesses. That's
awesome. That's not a lie. That's true. So there's things out there and we can't tell. So what I'm
saying this this is a sneaky thing this is a thing that that gets into your head then you got to be
careful for it you got to be careful of it you got to be careful because if you don't watch out
you're going to end up not taking ownership ownership of what is going on in your world it's it's going
to seep into your bloodstream it's going to seep into your bloodstream and it's going to
pollute your body. It's going to pollute your mind and it's going to pollute your soul.
And you won't know it.
This guy, it was like, it was like he was on fire and he didn't know it.
He did not know it.
He did not see.
He did not see the obvious thing that what he was saying was completely opposite of what he
thought he was saying.
It's not on everybody else.
It's on you.
You have to make things happen.
Nothing is going to be given to you.
And that's, should I say nothing?
No, I shouldn't say nothing.
You're going to have things, some things, you're going to get lucky sometimes.
You can't count on luck.
You're going to be given some things.
You can't count on being given things.
You're going to be, you're going to win a couple easy games along the way.
But no one's going to have.
Someone might give you a little bit of money, but no one's going to hand you a dollar.
You can't count on it.
No one's going to hand you a dime.
No one's going to hand you a job.
It's not going to happen.
You cannot have any part of your mind that thinks, oh, someone will just do this for me.
You cannot have that in your mind.
You have to do things yourself.
You have to create things.
You have to make things happen.
You have to do it yourself.
No one's going to give it to you.
No one is going to give it to you.
And this doesn't mean you have to take from someone else.
You have to build for yourself.
So think through what you are saying.
Think through what you are thinking.
Stop blaming other people.
Start taking ownership and start taking ownership of everything.
And I'll tell you what.
It hurts.
It hurts.
like chemotherapy hurts.
It's terrible when people go through that.
But that's what removes the cancer from their system.
And you're going to feel some of that.
And look, if you're like this guy, probably 48 years old or something like that.
This is going to be some serious, some serious pain.
when you look around at your relationships, at your savings account, at your finances,
at your relationships, at your skill sets, when you look at all those things and they're not
where you, not where you think they deserve to be.
Now, you didn't get what you deserve to get.
You didn't get what you deserve to get because of that coach, because of that recruiter,
because of those teachers, because of your mom and dad.
You can get what you deserved
You're gonna get what you deserve
You're gonna get what you deserve
And it's based on you
There you go
Let's get to some Q&A
It's just bizarre
Because I have these conversations
Fairly regularly
Yeah
Do they
So you been in this
Outfit
For a while
No
Did you always
You know how like obviously
And I'm with you now even
Even me just being around
For this long
Like you know when someone's like
Yeah, you know, like, even when my kid is like, hey, you know, your example of the milk spilled.
It's crazy how I see every single time.
It's for real.
They do this exact same thing, exact same thing.
She was like, he was like, oh yeah, it, you know, it spilled or whatever.
They don't want to say.
But the TV broke.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Shit does just magically break in my house all the time.
Yeah.
So do you, you know how like we'll see it everywhere?
Like the smallest little extreme disownership.
Yeah, like you see it.
It's almost like you can smell it from the next room almost kind of a light that's a where you always that sensitive to it or or is it you know in the seal teams? Yeah, you know like before this and stuff. Yeah. Oh, in the seal teams. Yeah. This is I I'll try and think back through my life. But when I was a enlisted guy, that is a little excerpt of what we are doing on the Jocko underground podcast. So if you want to continue to listen.
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