Jocko Podcast - Jocko Underground: NO COMPROMISE | & Some Gun Law Stuff

Episode Date: July 25, 2023

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This is the Jocko Underground podcast number 96 sitting here with Echo Charles. Have you ever heard the expression or the I guess it's actually a tagline? In a world of compromise, some don't think I've ever heard. You ever heard H&K, the firearms? Yeah, yeah. Hickler and Koch. Yeah. That back in the day and I mean, like when our team one back in the day,

We used H&K We used the H&K MP5 MP5K as a matter of fact And great weapon That's actually one of the best weapons If you've ever heard me talk about home defense I say the H&K MP5 is actually a really good choice

Yeah it's a really good choice It's a 9mm submachine gun Which means you're not going to get crazy penetration Through walls and stuff It's ultra accurate It's easy to shoot you put a suppressor on it sounds like this for real like when you when it when you put the suppressor on that thing the HP5 the MP5 SD is what it's called suppressed but

you can't have that kind of stuff well as a citizen in getting on California you can't right yeah because California is is insane yeah no they have rules yeah they have rules yeah they have rules that don't make any sense to anybody but they have rules you know the rule and I don't want to go too deep into the political elements or this is what it feels like it feels like people who don't really know that much necessarily about guns and that kind of stuff they're like hey lit I'm gonna make a rule that makes me feel like more comfortable with the overall kind of feeling so it's like hey if we just allow everyone to have any guns everyone's just gonna go to war and it's going to be blood on

the streets you know kind of a thing like it feels like that's what they're basing it on that's why they're like oh yeah that the pistol grip just no pistol grip where it's like it barely even has a day it's more annoying for sure if you can't have the or they put that weird thing in the back or whatever it's more annoying but it's you still can shoot whatever it's like it's a weird well here's the weird thing so yes you're right it's dumb because they make this law that you can't have a pistol grip and so the gun manufacturers go okay well what if we put this weird like plastic thing so it's a little bit too big to get your hand around yeah your thumb they're sorry your thumb around yeah and so now it's not a pistol

grip anymore and the it passes the law yeah now what's really must up about that is like let's say you decided well I'm gonna break the law in 13 seconds you could just carve that thing off and you have a pistol grip yeah so it's it's not doesn't actually prevent anything right doesn't prevent anything at all yeah that's why I thought what you're gonna say is the people that are come up with these laws they don't actually know what they're talking about they don't have any idea they get some weird word like pistol grip and They go, well, the pistol grip is bad.

Right. And so they say, we don't want a pistol grip. So put the thing where you can't put your thumb around it. Yeah. Makes almost no difference whatsoever. And if you wanted to, you could take it off in three seconds. Yep. Yeah.

So it's one of those things where you get this. This is what it seems like because I'm not in the board room when those laws are being made. So I don't know what's on their mind. And I can't read their mind. But if you get a bunch of people together and no one knows what they're talking about, they'll be like, hey, what can. Can we agree on? Okay, we don't want people just going to war with 10 million guns and bullets and all this stuff, right? So let's, who has the first idea for a rule to keep that from happening?

And the first guy will be like, oh, well, the magazines or they don't even know, don't they call clips or whatever. No, you don't call it a clip. I know, that's what I'm saying. So they'll be in there. You know, it's a thing that the bullets go in or whatever. They can only, they shouldn't hold a bunch of bullets. They should only hold a handful of them. that way if, you know, it's safer or, you know, it's not as, like, destructive, right?

And everyone's like, well, sounds good to me. Never shot a gun in their life, by the way. But they'll be like, yeah, that sounds good. That'll keep the destruction down, right? Okay, boom, book it. Sign it up. Or, you know, all right, what's the next rule? Yeah, yeah.

And they'll be like, well, and the next guy will be like, oh, well, I got a picture of all these guns. Right. So you ever, when I was a kid, there was this one called a tech nine, right? There was this gun, tech night, right? It was a BB gun. And I looked at it and had all the holes and all this stuff in it. And it looked real like, cool. And my uncle was like, yeah, that one looks cool.

It looks real menacing. It's a menacing looking gun. So this guy in the boardroom, they're making laws. They're like, here's all the guns. You got a hunting rifle. They got all the way down to a tech nine or a, you know, all the MP5, all these ones. Right. Got the suppressor on there, got the scope on there, got all the cool stuff on there.

But to them, it just looks menacing. You don't know what it's for. They don't know the function of it. They're like, hey, that one looks pretty scary. Outlaw, all that stuff. And gun rights people will constantly take like a very innocent standard, I shouldn't say innocent, but just like a standard hunting rifle and just deck it out. So it looks super menacing.

Even though it's the same exact gun, it just has some different. parts on it and they go this is the same weapon as this and then they can take a weapon that has a much more deadly capability and they can dumb that one down and be like yep so it looks less menacing and but the people that make the gun laws don't know the difference between these two things nope and I'm not even sure they know what they're trying to accomplish yeah well you know often it's said that what they're trying to accomplish is just no one can have any guns and whatever they can do to inhibit that.

And the gun manufacturers just take the law and go, okay, what's the, how do we just get around this? And that's what they do. They go, okay, we can get around this by doing this little thing? Cool. Like they put a, they put like us, like for instance, in the magazines. Hey, you're not allowed to have more than 10 rounds in a magazine. Okay, so they put a stopper in the magazine that if you felt like it,

you just take that thing out and now you can load 30 round Mac. Yeah. And yet, this is a law. Yeah. It's just one year criminal one you're not a criminal Yeah and and what does it prevent You know what does it actually prevent if I can if I can get rid of this thing in three seconds Then what is it prevent doesn't prevent anything so what are we doing? Yeah, what are we actually doing being idiots? Yeah

Being idiots so anyways I was talking about H&K sure H&K Weapons manufacturer and they so so this was their motto back in the day and It might still be there, but in a world of compromise, some don't. And I remember, you know, you kind of think, I would hear that as a young frog man. And I think, I think, yo, that's what I'm talking about,

you know? That's where we're at. I had a T-shirt, actually. Like we would do some of conferences, or there'd be something where we meet H&K or whatever, and they'd give us T-shirts. And I had a badass T-shirt. And this was back in the day, you know,

like there was no, T-shirts wasn't really a thing yet. Like, for instance, you and I make like 80s, t-shirts right now right where t-shirts are a thing back then that they weren't a thing really yeah like you weren't just having t-shirts with different stuff on but they had one that had like a it looked like a pencil or like a pen ink real fine detail almost photographic quality drawing of like an entry team like a four like a three or four man entry team stacked up getting ready to go do an entry on a building and then it just said in a world

of compromise, some don't. And I had that shirt, bro, it's an 18K on the front, I had that badass thing on the back. And of course, you know, I'm low pro back in the dirt, you know. So you're never wearing anything like that. And it didn't really exist.

You know, it's not like today there's so many tactical companies out there. And people that aren't even tactical wear tactical shit all the time. They're wearing tactical hats and tactical t-shirts. And so there's a lot of tacticalness, right? The tacticalness has increased a lot.

But back then, you would never. There was no one that was wearing anything tactical. So having a shirt that was kind of tactical, no one knew what it meant, but we did. I did. So it sounds cool. Sounds badass. Here's the thing. Let's think about what life is like, normal life, if we do not compromise.

So it's cool when you're making a weapon system that you don't compromise. You want that thing to be as absolutely. supreme as you can make it. Cool. We get that. But let's think about life if we don't compromise. How do we resolve conflicts if we're not going to compromise? Right?

You're going to have to wait for a miracle. What kind of friends, what is your friend group? What does your relationship group look like if you never compromise? I mean, just think about that for 28 seconds right now. And someone wants to go to dinner with you and you know where you want to go. and you never compromise. Oh, your wife wants to go to a different restaurant, but you're only eating sushi.

And she wants Italian, but, and this isn't, this isn't like one night. This is never, never compromise. When you aren't willing to compromise, it closes your mind to other perspectives. It also creates animosity,

because now that all the people that you don't compromise with, they, they don't like you. They, they, They return the favor, by the way, as well. They're not going to compromise back. So now what we have is we have animosity.

That's animosity with other people, other people outside of our team. Within our team, guess what? If we never compromise, we only do it my way, we only follow my plan, we only implement my roles. I never compromise. I'm going to have animosity inside my team. It's going to create stress. It's going to create conflict. It's going to reduce.

Trust. It's going to reduce trust because I'm not compromising on anything. Everything is just my way. It inhibits flexibility, right? You would think that, well, yeah, you know, it must be that way. So that is a little excerpt of what we are doing on the Jocko Underground podcast. So if you want to continue to listen, go to jaco underground.com and subscribe. And we're doing this. We're doing this to mitigate our reliance. on external platforms so we are not subject to their control. And we are doing this so that we can support the Jocko podcast, which will remain as is free for all, as long as we can keep it that way. But we are doing this so we don't have to be under the control of sponsors. And we're doing it so we can give you more control, more interaction, more direct connections,

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