Jocko Podcast - Jocko Underground: The Surprising Reasons Predators Will Select You For Their Prey. We Don't Want to be The Victim.

Episode Date: March 9, 2021

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This is the Jocko underground podcast number nine with Echo Charles and me Jocco Willink. Good evening, Echo. Good evening. All right. So last episode we did, we were talking about body language. How to read it, how to make sure you aren't sending signals you don't want to send. But it was from a sort of almost from a leadership perspective, interpersonal relationship scenario. How you can read somebody.

You're negotiating like this kind of thing, right? And as I started thinking about that, I started thinking about so going from that end of the spectrum, which is, hey, I'm trying to negotiate, conversate, whatever. I'm trying to communicate with you verbally. Go to the other end up in the spectrum and you end up in different situations. And in it from a simplistic, from a very extremely overly simplistic view, there's all these different. categories of people in the world and there's two categories of people that we may or may not fall into at certain times that we should think about when it comes to body language when it comes to posture when it comes to perception and that is predator and prey what do criminals look for so we don't want to be prey

obviously sure what do what do criminals look for and there was a quote in there serial killer Ted Bundy admitted in a personal interview in 1985 that he could tell a victim by the way she walked down the street the tilt of her head the manner in which she carried herself he's observing the way she's walking and her posture and that's how he's selecting his victims victim selection Research corroborates the reality that criminals do in fact look for or at least notice certain traits when selecting potential victims. While nothing excuses crime, knowledge is power in the sense that these things, that there are things we can do to protect ourselves when we're out alone. That ties back from just this extreme end of the spectrum of, hey, we don't want to be a, we don't want to be a victim.

but it also these same, these same postures, these same physical presentations that we make of ourselves, they apply everywhere. Look, and we'll get to it. So from a leadership perspective, how we carry ourselves, the body language that we have, the way we walk actually also has an impact. So there's an experiment, and this is another article that Dr. Patrick wrote about. It was called, do you walk like a victim? So they did this experiment. They had 126 men who had been tested on something called the dark tetrad traits. Dark tetrots or tetrad means a group of four.

Here's the four traits. Psychopathology, which means you are antisocial and you lack a conscience for, And look, I'm not a psychologist, but that's the general meeting. Machiavellianism, which means how calculating are you? How manipulative are you? Narcissism. How self-obsessed and egotistical are you? And then sadism.

Like how much do you like to hurt people? So you can see if you start, if you're high in all those traits, you're not a good person. You got some issues. And you're, you know, obviously when you hire you want them to be. scale the more you're out as a predator. So they took these guys, these men, who had been kind of measured for these. And then they showed these guys, you know, individually, videos of eight women who are walking down like a hallway from behind.

So you don't see their face. You can't really judge their face. You're just purely based on how they walk. And the question. The question was, had the woman that you're seeing walk, has she been victimized in the last five years? So they watch a woman walk, and then they say, do you think that woman's been victimized in the last five years?

Guess what? The guys that scored high in the dark tetred, they could identify ones that had been victims. Damn. You like shake your head because that's scary, isn't it? Yeah, very frightening, yes. It's disturbing. Yeah.

Yeah, it's like, like people who score high on this, right? Some psycho. This is face it. Yeah, this is a cycle. Yeah. If you score really high on this year, you've got issues. Where they just know, because let's face it, the person that got victimized knows they got victimized for sure, but they don't know that they're just basically wearing it with how they walk, like just advertising it. Like, they don't know that they're doing that.

Yeah. And that was one thing that I thought through. this is an interesting point which doesn't wasn't covered in the article if you get victimized do you walk differently now? You see what I'm saying? So that could also be a secondary thing

where you've been victimized so now you walk differently which is possible. Yeah, I would imagine someone you kind of think about it, yeah? But I guess maybe like your mind kind of goes to shoot, what else am I just like showing

to everybody? That's exactly right. That's in my head, you know? And here's what else is interesting. is even though it's these people that have this dark, these dark characteristics about themselves, those people can read it more easily, but everyone can read it.

That's what hit me. It's like, no matter who you are, you can sense what attitude the person just by the way that they are walking. The, based on their gait, their stride length, the way they shift their weight, how much your feet move laterally, There's all these little details.

So, so there's that. And then there was this, then there was this, the original article continued on. They, they did this where they took a group of prison inmates. And they ran the experiment twice, but they showed these prison inmates who had been convicted of stranger assault, right? Not, not domestic violence, not I beat up my. friend not I met someone in a bar and got no fight but stranger assault we're assaulting somebody and this is from simple assault all the way up to murder and they had these tapes that they made of people walking through New York City and

what they did was try to figure out who these violent criminals would attack and there was a couple things the the I like this one the non-victims people that the perpetrators would look at and say I would I probably wouldn't assault that person. They had something called that they called organized quality. So the person just looks organized. So that is a little excerpt of what we are doing on the Jocko Underground podcast. So if you want to continue to listen go to jaco underground.com and subscribe and we're doing this. We're doing this to mitigate our reliance on external platforms so we are not subject to their control and we are doing this so that we can support the Jocko podcast, which will remain as is free for all as long as we can keep it that way. But we are doing this so we don't have to be under the control of sponsors and we're doing it so we can give you more control, more interaction, more direct connections, better communications with us.

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