Jocko Podcast - Jocko Underground: Twitter Is Not Good For Everyone | Too Many Rules Preventing Effectiveness

Episode Date: January 9, 2023

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This is the Janko underground podcast number 75 sitting here with Echo Charles. So here's something I sent out on the social media platform. Twitter. You heard of Twitter? Sure. Oh, that's right. You got hacked. Sure, Elon Musk, right?

That's Twitter. Yeah. Here's what I sent out. Twitter isn't good for everyone. If it makes you angry or frustrated, you shouldn't spend time on it. If it allows you to see other people's perspectives so you can understand the world better or you can share some information with other people that that other people might not have, that's good, enjoy. No big deal. Now, there's a little bit of something a little bit antithetical about me saying that because if you've got something that's bothering, you shouldn't you confront it.

You know what I'm saying? It's kind of a stretch. Maybe to stretch to say that. But there's a reason why I said it. Because look, there's a personality type. Anxiety gets to them. You ever have anxiety? No.

Some people, they get anxiety. Hits them. It's a problem. There's such a thing as an anxiety attack. Yeah. Where people have to, like, stop what they're doing. Right. Yeah.

Well, I hear it's like a heart attack, like they think they're dying. Anxiety attack. So that's a person that can have that going on. Yeah. There's personalities that can get angry over things that they shouldn't get angry about. That's what I'm talking about right now, right? Different personalities. Now, there's benefits to social media.

For sure. For sure. There's benefits. Like I said, you can hear other people's perspectives. You can learn about things. You can link to a good article that you could get some good information from. You can see other people's perspectives. It's like there's some, we've gotten connected to a lot of really cool people that have come on the podcast that connected through the social media.

And I would say primarily Twitter most of the time. All those things are good. But let's face it. Hey, look, we know if you're in the algorithm, if you're the algorithms grabbing you and you're just wasting time on it, we know that's bad. But if you're getting angry, that's not good. And you shouldn't spend time on it. Now here's where people are talking about detachment. Yeah, I talk about detachment obviously.

Yeah. and then people say, how do you do it? And I explain how to do it. And then how can you practice it? If Twitter or social media makes you mad, you could legitimately use it to practice detachment. You legitimately use it to practice detachment. So go on your social media.

If you're so inclined, you want to practice some detachment. Go on there and go and look at some people that you, totally and vehemently disagree with. And read what they wrote and watch the video that they posted. And then be like, okay. How does it? Like, it's kind of a good environment to do it in because you're by yourself. You can, you can actually monitor your emotions, right?

You're not confronting anyone. Yeah. It's not real. But have you ever read something on social media that made you, get a little bit mad? I feel like I, yeah, I feel like I have. I can't remember anything particular, but. Oh, how about just a comment?

If it's about me? Yeah, how about a derogatory comment on a YouTube channel, on a YouTube video? About you. No, not that made me mad. Never. I don't know, probably, but I can't remember anything specific, no. What about some political belief that someone threw out there?

You get just mad. I got, yeah, like, mad. Not mad. Come on, mad. But I got, like, annoyed. There's a guy that says stuff, and the way he says it is super smar-mey, kind of like, you're so dumb for not believing this, you know, like, that's the attitude. And that's super annoying for sure.

Okay. So you're probably in a pretty good place, actually. I think, I feel like it. You don't need to practice your detachment. You're pretty emotionally detached. You're not going to all spun up. This is an opportunity for people that might get spun up. And I'm going to tell you, if you're the type of,

person that gets spun up on social media you're probably getting spun up while driving you're probably getting spun up while your wife is talking to you're probably getting spun up by your kids you're probably getting spun up by somebody in the grocery store you see what I'm saying yeah am I wrong I don't think you're wrong now so I'm saying you could legitimately go you're in a detached position a little bit because you're just looking at your phone right yeah if you can't detach while you're looking at your phone it's a good place to practice and look at something that really makes you mad and say, oh, that's an interesting perspective they have. Yeah. That's, hmm, that's interesting. Yeah. And then read another one and say, oh, I'm glad I understand

them better now. And if you can, if you can do that, you can, if you can make progress over time, it's going to be helpful for you. Now, listen, if it just makes you mad, don't do it. If you're getting so mad, first of all, you should reflect on that. If you're getting mad at, if you're getting mad at, a bot. That's my immediate thought. Anybody that's saying something that's really bothersome, I'm thinking that's a bot. Right?

It's not even a human being. It's a programmed AI. Yeah. Yeah, you say that a lot, but I don't know. A bot? Yeah. You think they make bot? I don't know anything about bots.

So the only bots I know are the ones hacking my account and doing like for real. No, no, this. Echo Charles got hacked. They took his Twitter and you did some dumb, honestly. I'm trying to be disrespectful with this. It was a lapse of judgment. You did some dumb. You like clicked out of Twitter and then it said, to get back to Twitter, enter your password.

I mean, that's ignorant, right? Yeah, yeah, big time. So don't do anything dumb. If you do, like Echo did, then, well, Echo lost everybody. He lost all of his followers. Yeah, that was bad. But he's back now. Echo Charles at Echo Charles

So listen All I'm saying is people ask for a place to try to detach And if you're getting mad at social media You're probably one of those people that needs to practice it Yeah So practice it If it drives you crazy, get off of it Forget it, maybe go on once a month

And rehearse and practice detachment Yeah But if you're the type of person That's going full Karen You know what I'm saying? Yes, I do. I do know what you're saying And Karen can go in any direction, right? Is that right?

Or is Karen a specific, is Karen a right wing or left wing? No, no, no. Yeah. It's neither, right? It's just Karen. Yeah. So if you feel like maybe you're a Karen, yeah, I think I tried, I was trying to figure out what the male Karen is called.

And you know what I figured it out? What? What is? Karen. I thought there was like a name. I think there might be, but I forget what it is. But I probably should have done better research on the subject. Anyways, I think a male Karen is called Karen.

Okay. You're still Karen. Yeah. You're, you're, it's a, it's a non-gender specific. Yeah. I think that's viable because if, if I call you a caring, you know exactly what I'm saying. Yeah. Exactly.

Like, you're just an entitled complainer. Yeah. Essentially. You could be complaining about anything. Yeah. And you think you need to talk to the man. To the manager. It's true.

It's true. All right. So it's legit training. Just throwing it out there Listen, please Don't let social media ruin your life Don't let it waste your time Get positive benefits out of it

That's all I'm saying Try it There you go That's my statement for today So I had that today where And you talked me out of it by the way You didn't know you talked me out of it But I was listening to your episode with Huberman

Okay And you were on the part where you talk about And you say this a lot Where the storm cloud Right? Yeah You know just detail I, it's kind of, it is a detaching basically.

Um, but it's, it's essentially, yes. Just to explain that. If you can't detach, you can't see what's outside that storm cloud. You're just in the storm cloud. Yeah. As soon as you detach, take a step back, you can get out of the storm cloud. You go, oh, I see myself in there and I need to walk in this direction. I'll be out of it.

Okay, cool. So yes. So, and then, so I was getting anxiety. So yes, do I get anxiety? The way I see there's like different kinds people have anxiety like as, I think it's called like chronic and anxiety versus like acute anxiety, something like this. From what I understand. So I don't have that.

But so I was doing squats today while I'm listening to the episode. Anxiety can come with squats, 100%. You got to get into mind. So I don't know if you ever have this, but like squats, every once in a while I'll have like a nightmare. It's like a daydream, but it's a nightmare of like all my tendons and like, Or all my tendons and my legs are going to snap. Oh, I haven't had that night.

That's horrible. Yeah, it is horrible. Of course it never happens. But like I'll have every once in a great while. So today for, I don't even know why, it wasn't even that heavy, but it was it like hit me. That idea hit me right when you guys are talking about that. Just like happenstance. You didn't cause it or nothing like that.

And I'm like, and it got to me so bad that I was like, I don't think I'm going to do these squats today. Like I think I might get jammed up today real bad. I think my Patel attendants are going to snap on this squat, right? It wasn't even that heavy. So nonetheless, and it was the kind of where I see, you know when you get anxiety, like you start to like kind of faint a little bit? Like you feel like kind of faint. I was feeling kind of faint.

I don't know that. It hasn't happened to me, honestly. And that's why it's a little bit tougher to relate. Yeah. On this. I know the feeling of like squats suck. I know the feeling of thinking of myself. I don't even know if I want to be.

Yeah, this next set is going to suck so bad that maybe I just should be weaker but I'm just accepted That's not anxiety though that's like this is mental weakness. Yeah like you got confronted with a mental like Confrontation and it kind of got had you on the ropes then you got that that's what that's what next yeah and that's way easier to get past in my opinion than this this is almost like almost like you ever felt claustophobia before no you never felt classophobia before okay Not really. Okay. I will say this. When I see someone in a cave diving and they're all squeezing through a space, I think to myself, that does not look fun.

Feeling claustrophobia is similar to the anxiety. Oh, in my thing, I'm literally referencing what happened to me today, where it was like, I'm on this, like, weird, slippery slope. And all I got to do is stop, just stop moving or stop. It's like a real like easy switch not easy but a real simple switch to switch but it's just you got to focus on switching it. It's like that kind of a feeling and I was like man I can't switch it. I'm like going deeper into this thing like like I might dive in I don't know it was weird and it's so dumb but meanwhile

you're talking in in the ear where you're talking about the storm cloud and it's like all you got to do is take one step out of the side of the storm cloud you see what everyone else is seeing you're like oh my gosh that's like way like everyone outside the storm clock and be like hey this girl is not worth your downfall right now, bro. Or hey, you need to stop drinking, bro. Or hey, you need to quit that job or whatever the case may be. Yeah.

And to me, it was, bro, first off, that's not even heavy. Didn't wait a million times on my way up to it, like heavy way. It's not heavy. And in the history of history of squats, I don't think I've ever really injured. I injured my back before. But I got even got hurt ever in squats. And I used to get my squat on. Anyway.

So that's what I saw after I finally did flip the switch. I'm like, what am I even doing? And then I go and I do it. It's like super easy. No stiffness, no nothing. So I'm like, oh, what am I even doing? But it did get me for a little bit. All right.

So you do get anxiety. That was the first time that I got anything that felt like that. Like I couldn't escape it. Like it was so unreasonable. Did you think to yourself maybe this is like a legit warning? Yes. Oh, fuck yeah. That was part of the whole game, man.

I was like, this is a sign. Straight up. Freds growing up, these two girls, they were twins. And there was some situation. They were coming on a train. They were getting on a train to visit or something. And they were like, they called. This is back in the day.

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