Jocko Podcast - Jocko Underground: When Your Ready to Take Over The World, Here is Your Next Move

Episode Date: September 9, 2024

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This is the Janko Underground podcast number 138. We are 138 with Echo Charles and me, Janko Willink. Let's get into some Q&A. Got some interesting questions, some variety going on here. Let's go. Q&A. Happy birthday, by the way. Today's Jocko's birthday, everybody.

Oh, Chuck. Happy birthday, Jocco. We're going to sing later. Yeah, so we're really doing a lot today to celebrate that. I'm in here. I'm honored. You know, Spain your birthday with me freaking bread. We have work to do.

Amazing. You know what I mean? Yeah, I understand. I understand fully. Anyway, first question. Hey, Jocko. After being a long time listening to a podcast, I sometimes hear Jocko say he would take over the world if he was 20 again.

I consider myself to be in that position. Three years ago, I was fat and playing video games eight hours a day. Now, I'm 16 years old and have run an ultra marathon, train Jiu-Jitsu, Duke CrossFit, and I'm Jacked Tan and Fit AF. thanks to you guys by the way seriously anyway so I'm curious

how exactly do I take over the world what do you do in my position P.S. Echo I didn't take another rest day again did he he's just familiar with your excessive rest days well okay okay because when you go to Hawaii or whatever

and you're gone for like three weeks he misses me yeah yeah and there's a bunch of podcasts that we record when you're gone right right and then people want to know where you are oh like that's my rest day from the podcast. You're your rest day from Earth. Oh, from Earth.

I understand fully. All right. Thank you. So taking over the world, this is awesome. This is great to hear. Very cool. 16 years old and you're getting after in a big way,

especially after being kind of down in the, down, running down a bad path. Actually, it'd be interesting if you detail some of this, get that information out there. Like, what did you do?

Were you addicted to video games? Because that's a real thing. It doesn't seem like it could be, but it is. What were you eating? You know, what was your exercise routine? before you got on the path and sometimes I think it's a little bit hard for people to conceive

that they can radically change their lives. But for you, you did it. So if I was in your shoes, right? Because what are you saying? How exactly do I take over the world? What would you do in my position? First of all, I would figure out what I wanted to, what kind of life I want to live? Right? Like, what kind of life do you actually want to live? Part of that life you want to live is what do you want to do for a living? Like, what do you want for a job? Because you need to have some kind of income. You need to produce and add value to the world in order to be able to eat, right? And now, unless you say, hey, my path is to live off the land and I'm going to go into the bush and I'm just going to live off the land. Hey, if that's what your goal is, cool, then you can do that. But anything,

kind of like any other mode of living, you need some kind of income, right? You can't just, you need a place to live. You need a roof over your head. You need to get food. Again, if you're going to go build a shelter and you're going to store food for the winter, like you're going to do the whole thing, you can do that. Most people aren't in that zone. So that means you're going to have to have some kind of financial income at some point. So what kind of job do you want? And as I'm looking at what kind of job, I want to look what kind of, where do you want to end up in life? And think about this. When I say where do you want to end up? What actual geographic location do you, do you want to end up in? What kind of financial position do you want to end up in? What kind of physical

condition do you want to end up in? What kind of mental capacity do you want to have? Because all, you got to consider all those things and then start to shape your life in a certain way. And this might sound a little bit weird. But so when I was trying to figure out what military branch I wanted to go into, you know, I grew up surfing in Maine. And so I knew how to surf. and I saw that the seal teams, you could only be stationed in one of two places, San Diego, California, or Virginia Beach, Virginia, both of which had waves.

Now, if you go in the Rangers, you could be, you know, in Fort Lewis, Washington, there's a bunch of different places. In special forces, you could be in a bunch of different places. The Marine Corps, you could be a little less places, but there's special ops at the time wasn't as visible. So basically, I thought geographically, where do I want to live?

Well, I want to live by the ocean where there's waves. Cool. San Diego, Virginia Beach. Boom. Guess what that led me towards? Yeah, San Diego. Guess what else I liked? I liked to be in the water.

I like to surf. So if I would have joined the Rangers, I might not have ended up in a place where surfing could be part of my gig. So you got to think about where you, what location you want to be in. Now, financially, what do you want financially? Do you want, are you a type of person that's like happy with sort of three hots and a cot? meaning, hey, as long as I have food and I have shelter, I'm kind of good to go. I don't need the dang designer furniture, the special couch and stuff like this.

I don't need any of that. So, and again, when I say that, I'm kind of pointing out my, that was my thing. When I was growing up, I wasn't thinking about a nice car. I didn't consider, you know, for me, a nice car was like a old muscle car, you know, a freaking GTO or something. So there was I wasn't thinking Porsche I wasn't thinking Mercedes-Benz I wasn't thinking Audi yeah I was just thinking car and when I was thinking of place to live I didn't think about Two staircases you ever been a house that has two like seen a house they have two staircases Yeah yeah the entry the yeah I wasn't thinking about like some people probably think about that and that's kind of a desire of there

I didn't have that where do you want to be mentally you know like what do you want to what's your game plan I'm going to be. Do you want to be a person that's learning and growing from a mental capacity? And then physically, are you concerned about physicality? So you got to consider all those things. There's probably a couple more. Those are just like the ones I thought of. But you like, where do you want to end up? And then once you figure out where you want to end up, you say, okay, now I can plot a course to get there. Because if you go, dude, I don't really care where I live, but I want to make a ton of money or I don't really care what my job is. I just want to make a ton of money. Or I don't care about money.

I just want to do this certain type of job. You see where this can just guide your whole decision making process, these things? Yes. What about physically? Like some people, they hate labor, manual labor. And they'll do anything to get out of manual labor. Some people, they don't want to be inside to work. Like I do not want to be inside of a building.

There's a lot of people like that. So depending on where you where these thoughts lead you, then you can start to set up a course for your life that will bring you to those places. Maybe it's you want to make a ton of money and you want to live in New York City. Cool. That's pretty good. There's a path to go to do that. You know, you're going to try and go to the best college you can, try to go and study in

some Ivy League college and get a job as an intern and go up the chain of investment banking. Right. And okay. You're going to work like crazy. You're going to be inside. You're going to be looking at a computer. You're doing spreadsheets. You see what I'm saying?

But there's the course. If you want to work outside, hey, maybe you go and you start working construction. Or maybe you like forest service. Like you want to be out in the bush, but you still want to have a job. Cool. Go in the forest. Go in the forest. Go be a park.

Like there's all these things that you can do. And then to me, we can make things happen. Now, it's in a lot. important to remember that you can direct anything you you can direct things in the way that you want and if you're really dedicated you can likely be somewhat successful in achieving your goal now it's not going to be perfect number one number two there are some people that cannot play in the NFL right yes you're more of an expert on that than I am right you had guys on your football team in college that were the biggest stars in their high school on the football team

They were the biggest studs. They were athletically gifted. They still didn't go to the NFL. Yeah, and dedicated their life to training for the NFL. True. So this is a reality we have to face. Yes, sir. Right?

And this could apply to anything. You want to be a singer. You can practice. You can go to a voice coach. You can sit in the studio all day and you still never. You can want to be a writer. Like, I want to be a writer. You can write, you can write all kinds of books and turning manuscripts.

No one ever publishes anything you did. So you got to keep that in mind. You also might not be able to get into that Ivy League school. So then what you got to figure out is you're going to find, okay, how can I get close to the thing that I wanted? You see what I'm saying? So you make some alternate plans. Oh, I couldn't get in. I wanted to be a seal.

But I couldn't get in because my eyesight, I have, what is it? I have bad vision or uncorrectable vision. And I just couldn't. There's no way. It doesn't matter. There's no waivers. you can't you can't go okay so what are you going to do oh well maybe it's the rangers don't require as good vision so get going there you know see what I'm saying you're going to get something to

approximate yeah so figure out where you want to be and then start to figure out how you can get there and come up with some alternate plans in case the primary plan doesn't work out so I guess to hear what I'm saying is I think there's a key component to to wrap this whole thing up when when I When you hear me say take over the world, what I really should say is you have the opportunity to create an awesome world for yourself that you can live in the way you want to live. That's yeah.

And what that is is freedom. And we know that we get there through discipline. So one more thing I'll add is you gotta think strategic because you're not gonna get your own world. You're not gonna be able to shape, shape your world overnight. It takes time and it takes sacrifice. When I

was a younger dude, my wife and I I wanted a family, wanted to live by the beach. Well, guess what? When you're in the Navy and you have a family, you've got kids to feed, your wife is not working because she's having children. And you want to live

by the ocean, guess what kind of house you're going to get in San Diego, California? We'll just say not a mansion. We're not going to get a mansion. So my wife and me and my three children lived in a 934 square foot house. Now, so that was a, you know, one bedroom for the two girls. They shared a room, one bedroom for the baby boy at the time. And my wife and I lived in the living room.

You know, you walk in the front door of the house, our bed is on the left. That was our bedroom. It was the bedroom. It was the dining room. It was the kitchen and it was the living room. That was one big room because you know it was like a little con a little beach bungalow. Yeah. Let me start to interrupt, but what year did you move out of that place?

What year was that? Okay. Well, we built. I built another bedroom on it. Oh, okay. And that made a huge difference. Yeah. Because now the girls shared a room.

The boy had his own room. And then we had a room. Yeah. So. And we also, that was an extra bathroom because we only had one bathroom. You know, you got four people, five people with one bathroom. It's different. It's not easy.

Yes, sir. Even some people might call it problematic. Yes, potentially. Five people with one bathroom, because let's face it, there's times where a lot of people got to go to the bathroom. But what I'm saying is even at that time, I was kind of, I was stoked. I mean, quite frankly, I was just stoked. You know, we had a house by the beach.

Guess what? Guess how much time we spent inside our 934 square foot house? Yeah. Almost none. Because we're going down to the beach. We're walking to the park. to the park, there's a park nearby, the neighbors were all cool, like we had a whole pack of people

you know that were all in the same area of operations. Like my wife, all her friends. We had the freaking Darren and Tanya up the street. We had Scott, Scott, and Scott down the road. Two Scott. Yeah, there's two Scots, yeah. Trevor, like just a whole rack of people and everyone had kids.

So even though, in that location. See, location was more important to me than financial, right? Location was more important to me than, I wish I knew some things to rattle off about like, you know, when you go into the home that has like the plasma TV or whatever. Yeah, all that stuff, right? I didn't care about any of that.

We had the same TV for years, bro, for years. Yeah. So, but even in that, in that world was a world that I kind of made, you know? Now was I building towards, hey, it'd be nice to have a place where you have, let's say, a pool. Yeah. That's a huge thing to build towards. Took a long time to build towards that. Eventually, I got it, but you see what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you got to create your own world, and my point is that it takes time to create your own world. That's what I'm getting at. Yeah. When was that, but when was that that you moved out of that one? Or, or, yeah, moved out of that one.

2012. Yeah. Okay. So. Okay. Yeah, I'm trying to remember because I've been to that house one time. Yeah, yeah. Not inside, but I came and dropped off something. Oh, really? Yeah. It still looks the exact same.

The people that bought it from us, they just like, it looks the exact same. They had the same approach as you. Yeah, yeah. They were by the beach. Yeah, they were by the beach. Yeah, like there was like pieces of stucco that, that were off. And they're still off. Yeah.

Check. So there you go. Create your own world. man don't worry about taking over the world make your own world that that's a better way of putting yeah that and that's always the impression like anytime you'd say that because a lot times too if you take it for it's like oh you're gonna take over the world now okay but it always landed on me like that like how you said it just now like then that makes sense to me um this i'll be honest even i was just listening and that's good advice for anyone even if you're kind of like feel like you've kind of

you know, feel like you don't have as many goals because maybe you've achieved it or something like that. I feel like this is like a good like thought to revisit, you know, like where do you want to be? And are you there right now? Then cool. But how can you formulate your day to day, which, how you put it, create your own world? But how can you like engineer your day to day where you can, you know, it's that balance of like, oh yeah, stimulated and challenged. But at the same time, like you're not in debt or have this weird life deficit. where you're, you know, struggling or whatever. Or bored or unfulfilled or, I don't know, whatever, you know,

whatever problems they might have. Yeah, always good advice. I wish I would have known it when I was 16. Mm-hmm. But yeah, maybe I'll even revisit it again. I don't know. You never know. Looks like you're doing all right, though.

You kind of have your own little, nice little world, kind of. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean. For the house thing is, that's an interesting one that I don't think many people, I don't hear people talking about it that much, where if you, I could, it stands the reason. that if you have a nice house, the chance of you staying in that house, like day to day,

like staying in there, kind of goes up. I mean, obviously it depends on who you are and what your interests are, but like just in and of itself, it kind of, it stands the reason that the chances of you going outside and playing and being outside a lot goes down because it's fun and cool to be in your house.

You got to freaking. So you're saying that's kind of a little bit of a bad thing? It can be, right? It can hold you back a little bit, I think. Because like, yeah,

let's say you have, you know, I don't know, five bedrooms. Everyone has a 90 inch TV in there. Yeah, they're not even coming out of their room. Right. Exactly right. And I think there's an element of that going on. But if you don't, let's say your house is essentially you're just there to

freaking eat dinner and sometimes and sleep. Use bathroom. Yeah. If you can get in there with, you know, four other people rolling around there. Yeah. And that's it. Otherwise, like, why would I be in here? It's like boring, you know.

It's not like super common. We don't have amenities. Not like you got freaking, you know. luxury couches that you're all laying on and nothing like that so you're like all right let's go and you're by the beach in your case you're by the beach but either way outside is going to seem more interesting

you know so yeah and there's a lot more outside than there is inside a lot of the time that the truth so you kind of got to watch out those what do you call them the staircases that you're talking about two staircases you know grand entry they might have some shackles on those banisters coming down oh yeah

they might I don't know I don't have the two staircases and you know we know someone that does oh yeah yeah actually i know a few people actually oh dang look at you you're kind of big guys you know it is what it is but yeah cool next question thank you jaco on this birthday of yours oh okay jaco i was thinking about leadership so that is a little excerpt of what we are doing on the jaco underground podcast so So if you want to continue to listen, go to jocco underground.com and subscribe. And we're doing this. We're doing this to mitigate our reliance on external platforms.

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