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Episode Date: July 9, 2021

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This is the Jocko Underground podcast number 25. I'm sitting here with Echo Charles, allegedly. Sure, allegedly. So I wanted to talk to something today to kick this off, something I used to call the classic team guy over correction. So what this is, guys would make a mistake, right? A platoon or a platoon leader or a squad leader or, you know, a squad leader, or, a fire team leader someone would make a mistake on a run this is this is in the

advanced seal training and I'd give them some kind of corrective measures right I would give them some feedback and some corrective measures that they could take and nine times out of ten they would do an overcorrection which which I would then call the classic team guy over correction because that would be the next thing I'd tell them I'd be hey you just did a classic team guy overcorrection they would overcorrected. If I told them they need to be more aggressive, they'd be freaking psychoaggressive. If I told them their plan was too simple, they'd go hyper complex. If I told them their plan was too complex, they'd make it so simple. It wouldn't get you anywhere. If I told them they were too loud

moving to the target, they would be so quiet that it would take them an extra hour and it would fail. If I told them they were moving too fast, they would slow to a snail's pace. If I told them they were moving too slow, they'd freaking go Mach 9. Classic team guy over correction, overreaction. So there's this, this doesn't only apply to SEALs. This applies to us as just humans. And what I think applies to humans is we overcorrect, we overreact. That's what we do.

You hear something. Or someone says something to you or something happens. And your initial reaction is going to be an overreaction or an over-correction of what you're doing. and what I'm saying is don't do that. I know this is really simple advice, but don't do that. The way that you avoid doing this is by actually being aware that it's a thing, right?

So that's what I would tell it, guys. I'd say, listen, you're, tell them, like, don't over-correct this. Don't overreact to what I'm telling you. Be, just make a small adjustment, and that is going to, more likely going to be enough. The first report from the battlefield is always wrong.

This is just another additional statement. When you hear something for the first time, it's probably wrong. And I've talked before about the reasons it's wrong. It's wrong because you're hearing one person's perspective. So if something happens out on the battlefield and you give me a report, the only angle that you see is your angle. So how can that angle possibly see everything?

Or give a complete picture? The answer is it can't. about the fact that you're super emotional. That's all wrapped up in the first report. So the first report's not right. And so when you hear something for the first time, don't overreact to it. Don't over correct it. What else happens? The emotional part, that's the driver of your reaction. So it's already out of control. Something happens and you react to it. It's an emotional response. That's the initial response. It's an emotional one. So it's too much. So guess what we have to do? We have to, we have to counter that. We have to counter

the overreaction. Guess what happens when we counter the overreaction? We overreacted in the other direction. And we end up porpoising, which I explained to Dave Burke the other day. Good deal, do you? Yes. We end up, we're a little too deep in the water on our dive rig. So we come up. And when we come up, we overcorrect. And now we're too shallow in the water. So we overcorrect going back down we end up porpoising wasting a bunch of time and energy and it's bad so what I'm saying here is stay balanced don't don't stay calm stay calm don't overreact it's really it's a really it's a really simple concept and it makes a big difference in the way your world goes forth yeah that's uh caught something you said which I kind of made a lot

lot of sense when you got to be aware like be aware of the the circumstances in which you are reacting in all likelihood overreacting right just being aware of it being aware like that's kind of the the biggest step because it's like simple but not easy right it's not easy because that thing creeps out of nowhere sometimes so you want to create a trigger in your mind that when something happens you got to say to yourself don't overreact okay so yeah so I thought about that the very next question is like when do you like you kind of do this pretty naturally I'm assuming you've been doing this for a long time where you could essentially detach right like

remember you know how we'll talk off air about how detaching is essentially a superpower um so when when did you realize oh yeah I'll just detach even from an emotional standpoint when you're just talking to like people I guess yeah like when do you when did you realize that because you can be like think about like oh yeah I just I just detached but then it's like what do I think about detaching all day every day no that's not realistic so it's like what like what are the triggers like what when did you realize like okay I can do this I realize I needed to detach what I wrote about in leadership strategy tactics on the oil rig all that stuff and but then I very quickly realized that it paid off in every situation,

including having conversations with another human being, including any time I started getting emotional. Because if you think about, why would all those guys staring down their weapons? Yeah. Because they were engrossed in what was in front of them, and I realized that was a bad thing. So I just stopped doing that.

Yeah. The temper thing and the emotional thing, I mean, how many times, I guess, you know, really when I saw the platoon commander that we had a mutiny against and we, he was real emotional. and I knew I recognized how bad that was. And then when Delta Charlie came in, not emotional, cool.

And I realized how cool it was to be cool. There you go. That is exactly what I was wondering. So that contrast in that environment where you were just paying attention. And then you get that contrast, those two situations back to back. It's like, oh, man. The thing that's hard for me to explain or hard for me to pinpoint is why I was paying. attention. That's the thing that's a little bit strange, maybe puts me a little bit outside

the ordinary box, not saying good or bad. I'm just saying the fact that I was paying attention to that is a little strange. Yeah, it seems like when you kind of put it all together, it does make sense, not to say that this is the explanation, but you know how like you said you're, you were always aware that you just wanted to be a good seal and then you'd like look at people and be like, oh, I don't want to be like that. Yeah. Or, oh, like that. Kind of like,

you were looking for the model of good seal. You had like some kind of ambiguous model in your head. Had an idea. Yeah. Then try to hone it. Yeah. And then when you saw actual people, you're like, oh, that, there it is. And you're almost like mentally taking notes the whole time because you had that innate,

like desire to know that. And you know how that works with kind of everything. You know, if you want to know about something or you're interested in something, you're always on the lookout for it kind of thing. So then you get this guy who you're just taking. notes on how not to be. Then you get that stark contrast. You're like, oh, I see.

You know, yeah. So it's like just seared in your brain, you know, a little bit more. That makes sense. And the oil rigged story, I remember that and I'm like, cool. But then like, I guess translating that into like an emotional kind of situation where like, you know, just even everyday stuff with your friends or like with your wife or whoever and they say some thing, use the wrong tone with you or something. Come on, bro.

It's not as obvious. I just saw so many loser situations like that. You know what I'm saying? Even in like us. So that is a little excerpt of what we are doing on the Jocko Underground podcast. So if you want to continue to listen, go to jaco underground.com and subscribe. And we're doing this. We're doing this to mitigate our reliance on external platforms.

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