Joe and Jada - Albee Al shares his WILD journey: incarceration, tragedy & New Jersey hood life

Episode Date: February 5, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by New Jersey's own Albee Al. The Jersey City rapper shares the rollercoaster story of his career, from his five-year prison term for a gun offense, to learning of his brother's passing while behind bars, to making it out to the other side with lessons for today's youth on how to hustler smarter. Also on the show: Jada surprises Joe with Johnson's BBQ, Joe tells a WILD story where he stepped to a New York City "monster" who was extorting rappers, and Albee Al talks about the political problems he's had with Jersey City's mayor. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX! [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I know the feeling because I was one of them. So I can't even, so that's why I be like, you can learn for me because I used to be who you are today. And I was way worse than that. Yeah, yeah, what up, y'all? Joe Crack the Dawn. You know what it is your boy, Jada? This is the Joe and Jada show.

every show legendary, every show iconic, and we fucking destroying shit. Nah, these guys are the fuck. To say the least. These guys in the fucking river. When you think of today's guests, Oh, Flabby is sick. You think of Jersey City,

marrying projects. I'm thinking of the streets. Think of bars. You think of that cloth. you take a, you know, taking on a lot of shit and persevering and doing your thing. Ladies and gentlemen,

make some noise for my brother, Alby. Al. Stop, it's Robert. It's Robert. Honored to be here, man. Shout out to the goats, man. The legends.

Just to sit at this chair, this couch with y'all, man. It's all love, man. I'm honest. I can't stop smiling. I ain't even that type of thing. Let me just tell you one thing. I got to be honest.

fit you, right? Because that's all we do. You had the first request of Jadikis to come on this show. If it ain't Bruce Springsteen He's lying. You're not my first request. As I had other requests. No, no. But it got to a point.

It got to a point, boy, got to a point anybody I was asking. I never seen those shit like this. There was fringe me in my shit. You know what I mean? Then I calmed. I see what this is.

There's no power here. Just going to go with the foot. Then I chilled out for a while. Then you hit me. They, bro, I got the new project. Now, I'm like, I can't let my nigga out. I can't, this is this one right here. I'm going to HR.

Exactly, exactly. Went to HR said, listen. You went out. Y'all talk, y'all, because HR is a lot of Jersey. Yeah, yeah. Me, y'all go front on jersey? Yeah. Damn, no, we got you.

Yo, H.R. is definitely a lot of fucking Jersey in this motherfucker. Shout out to James. Shout out to Jersey, James. He showed love when that Jersey shit. So you're from Jersey City, not Newark? Not for Jersey City, Marion Project. I used to hide out in Kennedy Boulevard.

My aunt lived out whenever the cops, it was too hot for me in the Bronx, and they're looking for me all over. I used to be in that Kennedy Boulevard over there hiding out in my aunt's house. Shout out my aunt Bev. Yeah. Why? That's a fish. No, no, that's real talk.

So Jersey City, huh? Uh-huh. All the way. In the building. In the spot. Easy style, man. Appreciate it. Man, we're it up.

New project. Before we even get into the new project, you've been, how long have you been home for a lot? Three years. Three years. Three years. Make some noise for that.

Yeah, man. How, yeah. It felt good, too, man. I feel like, before I went to jail, it's like, I just, I started, like, heating up. I signed a big deal. with, shout out the Gazi.

I signed a big deal with Gazi. Gazi, what's up, baby? Shout out the Gazi. Like, you know what I said? In 2019, I signed a big deal with Gazi. But I'm talking about the money hit my account, July. I was in jail September. You know what I'm saying?

So I didn't even really experience, hey, I bought my cars and a couple of jewelry, you know what I'm saying? Took care of my moms and everything. Took care of my bros. But I went right to jail right after that. And it was like, now all that money that I got, I'm paying it on lawyer fees. I'm paying to keep my car straight, trying to make sure my mom. straight, all that shit, know what I mean?

So I was about to have my run. So now, right now, I'm home, I'm back out here. So now I finally feel like I got run, you know what I'm saying? Like I'm not, so I'm just taking it and just going with it, non-stop, full throttle.

People don't understand it takes work. Yeah. I was just telling you, man, the African king over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm mean? I was telling them it takes work.

So I've been seeing you grinding. I've been seeing you put it in your work. I've been seeing you moving. doing everything you got to do. We started this podcast with no promise. Right, right. We're in here three times a week going, going, going. Other guys might have

thought we was delusioned or whatever. Right, right. But when people see the work, then they're like, all right, I could invest some money with these guys because these guys work. Yeah. Same for you. Your project's coming out, Thugazi? This project? My own project just came out, DuGazi. Right, right there. It just came out on Halloween.

It came out on Halloween It's doing crazy Chartered number four in the country of Apple Music And it's special to me Because it's called Everyday June Dirty

And if you know my story You know Everything I do is for my brother My brother got killed When I was locked up So the name of that album It's Everyday June Dirty And that's the first album

I ever put on A platform to stream You know what I'm saying So that's like That's like the first album I ever put on So it's the 10 year anniversary of that

So I dropped that album And just added like 12 new songs And put like Some of the old songs that like people, like favorites, you know what I'm saying? And I added like 12 new songs on it. Shit went crazy.

So you in jail, how do they tell you your brother just got killed on the streets? Oh, man, that shit. That shit was vicious, man. It was like, it was crazy because I told the story before, you feel me? You ain't telling it. This is the biggest. Yeah. You feel me?

You guys are fucking dodo birds. You're talking to the real here. They going to hear the shit. Yeah, so motherfucking, I was, when I was locked up or whatever, I was for murder. And I was ready downstate for like a gun charge and going back and forth to the county to fight my murder charge. So I was coming out for a wreck. I'm on the phone. I'm talking to my mom, calling my mom and she's like, your brother won't talk to you. Your brother want to talk to you. I'm chasing a girl that was like holding me down. She's holding me down for three years straight,

and she just tapped out. Like I ain't doing no more time, which you probably got to her head. Like, I'm never coming home with something. You feel me? Because I've been saying I'm coming home every fucking year Now I'm like, I'm getting this bitch. Three years now and I'm still fighting his body. Tell you something about that murder. That murder, when anybody casts that murder charge, they immediately abandon you. Your own family's scared to go to court.

Not for real. Right? Because it's a serious thing. So everybody who think you're the most popular guy in the hood or whatever, you cast that murder charge, the world starts to change on you. They don't get a fuck in that courtroom, you know what I'm saying? Like, so you got your mom's in there.

You feel me? She don't raise you. No matter what, she'll always look at you. Like you're her little boy. And that judge and that prosecutor going to be tearing you down to making it seem like... Do a piece of shit. Yeah, you feel me?

And they're saying that shit in front of your mother. They're saying that shit right in front of her. Not giving the fuck how she feel. What she... You know what I'm saying? Making she feel like she just raised the fucking failure. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean?

So that's what I was dealing with. So I'm telling my mother, I'm like, yo, call shorty on three-way because she don't block me. She ain't fucking with me. I'm like, call her shorty on three-way, my talking, I'm trying to get a bat because she was like my last leg in that motherfucker. So I call on three way.

I'm arguing with her, boom, boom. She hung up. I called back again. I'm like, my, call again. My mother like, your brother want to talk to you. Your brother want to talk to you. I'm like, mama, talk to him. But call her.

I'm trying to get her back chasing a bitch. You feel me? Call double back three times on this bitch. And then I ain't even had no time to call my brother. My mother kept telling me every time I called your brother, your brother. So I hung up. Had to go lock in. It was time to lock in.

It was done up. The next morning, the police comes to my door and shit. I'm thinking it's like, I'm thinking somebody dropped a slip on me or something, trying to get me off the unit or something. They, like, shackle me down. Like, come on. Like, but they, they, like, but they, they, not trying to tell me yet. Pull me to the search worker, make a phone call.

And, like, yeah, your mother on the phone, my mom's told me, my brother got killed and shit, you feel me? She on the phone crying and shit. And they put me on suicide watch after that. It was like, it was real rough, huh, nigga, you, you feel me? They let you go to the funeral? No, that was, they said I was too dangerous to go to the funeral. But, you know what I'm saying?

Because the severity of my charges, you feel me? It was like, so I couldn't even see my nigga, couldn't even see him or nothing. So I had to eat that. And that shit turned me to a different type of nigga, like, made me so cold, made me hard on bitches. You feel me? Like, now it was like,

he was killed nothing to do with you. It was just a random. I was just some regular street shit, you feel me? Yeah. Or without regular shit, killed my brother over a bitch. You feel me? Like, you know what I'm all the time?

That's the shit I'd be talking about. Now, that guy went to jail. I don't know the story, but he's in jail now. She's up dick 10 minutes. Of course she did. That's what she's do. You know, that's how that shit is. People don't understand that part of the game, too.

You're ready to crash out of it with something that's going to laugh. They're just going to show her ass when there's some cuffs going on you. You know what I mean? That's growing pains for me. I learned my lessons with just going to do that shit. I move so much smarter right now, you know, for it up. I'm surrounded by jail guys. Yeah.

So I know three years of milestone. Those are my friends. All my friends, you know what I'm saying? One thing I want to help you with or bring light to. was you're having a little friction with the government over there. What is it? The mayor, when it's time for the man,

when he's your project day, they keep blocking you, they won't let you. We got to fix that because part of having power here tell you, he's heavy with all kinds of shit, the older people nursing insurance, that is that.

You need the governor's demand sometime on your side to help you elevate the, especially when you're trying to do where you're from. And I see you do mad shit and still keep blocking. I do, I do so much for my community. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we even doing a toy drive.

You know what I mean? I do the back-to-school drives. I do shit out of rent. They don't even got to be. Yeah, don't got to be. Just because I feel like it and I got an influence and people will be like they want to do shit. You know what I mean?

But I definitely going to have to tap it with Joe. Because every summer, they be having a concert in Jersey City. And he always there to perform, bro. You always did. I know that's the mayor's shit. Tap me in because. Give me the back to. We got a new mayor right now, too.

And he was trying to, like, get in contact with me, too. So that's the difference to my last time. Yeah, you better. You gotta get in contact with him. I hope he this was trying to use me for no votes or nothing. You feel me? But it was just like trying to get a contact with me, trying to, like, yo, I don't know what I'm here. I'm a rock with you, whatever, whatever.

Because I be trying to do shit for my community, like a concert. This is the show my youth. They only see certain people on Instagram. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I want to show them, like, because we never seen nobody famous in the HUD coming up. So I want to show them like. The Fat Joe used to be on Kennedy Boulevard before rap.

I'm telling you, I was out there, Kennedy Boulevard, Chernoo Square, all that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They had a roller skating rink out there. I used to roller skating that motherfucker out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, that's how you might what happened to the leg. What's the, what's the, I want to say it's the high school.

Their basketball team went to, like, the nationals and all that. Right, you had, like, a couple of years ago, you had a mean, High school back, a Catholic school high. I don't know. St. Anthony's been nice for ever. That's not. They went to the dance. That's called Hurley.

St. Pete, right? The college scene? They went to the dance. Oh, yeah, they went to the dance. Yeah, well, he was balling. He was balling. They was definitely bawling. Hell, yeah, St. Peters was going crazy.

Yeah, that's up the block from the projects, too. It's on the boulevard, too. The projects is on the boulevard? No, not, not. No, no. College. You know, I used to go down there. You know, I got a famous story about me and Big Pung going to the tunnel by ourselves.

And Mike Tyson said security was about to pound us out. We all getting with them. And then Mike Tyson came. Yeah, yeah. And jumped in. There was a club over there. What, Foxes? Oh, yeah, yeah, Foxes.

So we performed that Foxes. And then Pum was like, yo, we had 100 guys with us. Uh-huh. Pum was like, yo, fuck all these niggas. Me and you, let's go to the tunnel twin. Let's go. We went too deep. Oh, no.

And we almost got into it with the security. But, you know, we used to rock that club that Fox is over there. So we got to talk about it, right? And I always feel like, especially now, maybe I'm older, right? But I feel like we celebrate shit in the hood.

OG such and such came home. And now he's going to sit there and tell us how, the Holy Bible of crime. And, you know, we got to salute and all that. And so your story is a murder case. I really want to find out more into that. But, like, you came from that. But the real thing is three years no jail.

You in jail, you can't even go to your brother's funeral. Yeah, no doubt. Right? And so when I was a kid, many, many moons ago, horse, many, many moons ago, horse, I'm 14. They cut my whole neck open. I don't know how to explain it to you any other way. Doctor said, I almost died.

I ran to the hood so ignorant to show him my buck 50. you, look, son, four 20 nags, they bust me open with the razor kid, this, this. And when you young, your boys come back

from doing time and Rikers Island and all that. It's almost like the kids want to call. Right, right, right. Right, that's exactly what's going on outside. And it's like,

when I'm from, and I'm pretty sure it's like that in a lot of trenches, a lot of hoods and all that shit, it's like, you don't even count unless you got a body out there. Like, them young boys

don't respect nothing unless they got a body. And it's like, Scoreboard. You know what I'm saying? I respect none but that. Fuck, getting money,

all that shit to them. They don't even care, you know, they don't care about none of that shit because they, you know, they get up as like a little Nike

tech and some sneakers. They don't care about everything else. So this era ain't to get money over there. They don't care about getting money. They don't care about that shit because they big homies

ain't got money. You know what I mean? If they big homies have money, they probably, they'd probably focus on money. All these young boys, I'm telling you,

it's like, they don't even respect if he ain't got a hat on him. You got to catch a body out there. That's trophies in the hood. Before it was rollies with trophies. Big chains with trophies. Nice cars with trophies.

That was bodies. Nah, he out there dropped, son. Respect that now. You motherfucker can take it 20 years on the chin like it's nothing now, dude. I was locked up.

When I was locked up, I said young boys, 16, 17, 20 years old, really sizing their beard up. Like, man, shit. I'd be home like, I'd be home like 38. I'll be back.

Like, sizing it up. Like, be okay with that shit. Like, they eating them 20s. It's weird up. Trade, eating 20s like, it's like nothing. Happy meals. You know what? I'm going to focus on time.

Yeah. Right? And the most valuable thing you have in life besides health is time. Right. So I hurt my knee last week. Doctor said in two weeks my shit will be back normal. Time. Everything I do that I try to do,

if I got a court case and I want the shit to be over, it takes time. Right, right, right. You understand? So there's a reason why the people who figured out the greatest punishments on earth was time. Yeah. They take your whole youth. You come home.

You're 40 years old. Good luck trying to make it. Now, I'm not saying this impossible, but I'm saying it's highly unlikely for you to succeed 40, 50 years old. And it's the same story every time. Yep. Now, you're 40, 50 years old and you get back out here to do what you. Yo, man. Most of these young boys don't even like, some of them probably never even had their own place,

own car, on apartment. You know what I mean? Never know what it feels like to live alone. And they out, they're sitting down with all of that time. They're still outside living with their moms. And they don't even understand. You out there playing in these streets. You get killed with some shit.

Them funeral was 10 plus. It was 10 bands. You ain't even got that in the crib. Your moms ain't got that. That's why it's GoFund me accounts. Embarrassing your family, man. It's embarrassing. You know what I'm saying?

You know what's crazy is that I was in jail. But I went to jail, I act like I was Jewish because they said the meals was better. That was bullshit. They bullshit is worse. They go, they go, what is your salad? The halve mill is the best meal. You got to eat a cold meal. They was coming through with a banana and peanut butter.

Like, here you go, my Jewish brother. I'm like, man, get the fuck out. We're the food. Those told me the kosher meals. The coached meals was best. I went up in there. Where is it? Yo, James, is it every Friday?

The Muslim meals the best bills in it. Huh? Every Friday the Jews, they can't eat nothing hot, correct? Well, I'm just saying, I'm not spiritual. Hey! Bro, I came up in there, leader of the Jews. They told me if they had the best. I'm telling you.

Yo, I'm telling you the truth. Lead of the Jews. You know, the leader of the Jews. You're telling you. You see? He was leading with the Jews I'm the leader of the Jews You're not listening

You sit with all the poppies though They told me the Jews eat the best food Fadjo You know I'm coming to eat Right coachamil So I'm going up in there like yo I'm Jewish All the Jews

Yes sir All the Jews came like You know I'm in the feds They all scamming and shit like that So they all run over They go yo you Jewish I was like yeah I'm Jewish They was like

The crazy shit is About a weekend and lead up, the real leader of the Jews is like, yo man, we know you ain't Jewish man, I said, yo, I heard the food is better. This shit got a fucked up here. Like, I'm gonna try to Puerto Rican route, the Cuban route over here.

Yeah, yeah. But, um, so you turn a negative into a positive. We just got to fix it. City Hawk. Oh, he got the mayor on your line, so he got to work with him. You got to work with him. Because it's like, it's like, only judge a motherfucker from his bad.

I'd be trying to show him my good. For me, because they don't want to keep doing bad. You know, obviously, I'm trying to change my life. I'm trying to change the people's lives around me. So I want to do good. I want to do everything right. You know what I don't, ain't nobody going to sit there and tell me that it's like little shit don't bother me no more, that you still have me get mad and want to do sons and

mine. Now I'm not to play the movie out. I can see the movie happen before it even happened. I know what's going to happen if it's stupid patience. Or just like, you know, I can see it happening without even doing it nowadays. You know what I'm saying? Let me tell you something. I got an uncle, right?

Rest of peace, my uncle Jabal. And I'm not trying to offend nobody in the family. Jabu? My uncle Jabu. Top two, top three rat hunters. They invented the gang rat hunters in jail. He invented it. This guy's dangerous.

Any nigga, you know upstate, all those guys we talk about? Well, they know Jabu. He did 29 years. Jabu was a terrible guy in there, right? So he was in jail since I was a baby. He comes home. I asked him. I said, what's the one thing you could teach me about jail?

Just one thing that you could teach me about the, he said, listen, I'm going to tell you, every inmate in there, the biggest mistake everybody ever did was be impulsive. Your brother got into argument. You pop off, you shoot them in front of everybody, but daylight, now you're doing 25 years. Somebody messed with your girls, whatever the case, you jump. He said, the best thing you're,

you could do, sit back and analyze. Yeah. To see if you really could you, you ever been really pissed off and a week later it don't really bother you? Right. But that first week, you might jump out the window like,

fuck that. Come a couple of days later, you feel a little bit different. You know, so he told me being impulsive is the biggest mistake anybody could do. You know, you feel like you're invincible when you young.

Trust me, I felt like I was invincible. The youth fight of control, bro. It's like, even like my nephew, you know what I'm saying? He's like, he's a little, little tough kid, you feel me? And he'd be on his, he be on. That's hard to admit. Yeah, he'd be on his bullshit sometimes and I'd be having to check him because

there's no need for you to be on your bullshit. So he was getting at it with a young boy in the hood. So come to find out the young boy, his father is my man's, you feel me? So they're from two different hoods, but his father, like my man. So I had to tell him, like, you know who you even beefing with? like you ready to do sons to this boy you know you beefing what he's like nah or no i'm like i'm like you don't even know this nigger his father rolled for your pops man you know what

my father's my brother who got killed this is his son you know i take care of him shit i'm like you about to go do son of this nigga you only even know he rolled for your father man he put a major major major major dis cadetianian if any's worse you could put we could pull up I could go grab you could grab him I could get it off your chest like that they don't got to go to guns don't got nowhere further than that these yans don't be they don't be danking like that. He thinking, oh, he dissed me, or he played me, all that shit. And I know the feeling because I was one of them. So I can't even, so that's why I be like, you could learn for me me because I used to be who you are today. And I was way worse than that. You know what I mean?

Way worse than that. You know what I'm saying? Y'all trying to live up to my shit. Y' I ain't even nowhere close. So I understand where it could go. So you ain't got to touch the stove and see it's how you see me burn my motherfuckerckels. Learn from my mistakes. I wish I had somebody that I could have grew and learn from. My old heads were telling me to go. My old has been telling me to eat. My old has been telling me to move out. You know what's the biggest problem we got. Yeah. Right?

This is a learning process, guy. This is the wrong podcast episode you thought you was going to get. But some of you need to hear this. The biggest problem we got is the old heads. Who are nothing? They're bums. They have shit. They're bums.

Anybody who's a career criminal, at least be a career criminal, caked up. But if you ain't got no money, you're a career criminal. you this and that and you telling the youth you making the youth do shit for you you got them brainwashed this and that

that's the biggest cancer in America I'm talking about Compton, New York Jersey, Atlanta whatever it case may be when the old has got these young kids brainwashed and manipulated to do their dirty

work for it. Right, right. There's a lot of that. It's a lot of that. No, it is that. Right. Nobody talks about that. But that's just the truth. The old answer, you're saying that your time, the old answer is like, yeah, go, whatever the case may be. But that's not what we should be doing.

Yeah, that's who we used to get the guns from the old heads back back in the day. Nowadays, the old hands get the guns from the young necks. It's flipping. You go, I know what they go ahead. They can still go pull out his little 38. Now, that young boy go pull out a drake, a glock with a drum on it. I don't know. It's crazy, you know.

But I've seen some shootouts when niggas was busting out that Tony Montana guns. You seen that shootout in Philly that day? Oh, yeah, it was crazy. But everybody's in the fucking porch. Philly gets busy like that. Oh, my God.

You seen that shit? They didn't shoot this shit on me. The motherfuckettuckett kept running over. In Philly, they shoot the shit on you. I know he's in jail forever. The guy from Philly. He's looking at the camera shooting. He's done.

What's the dude? Looking at the camera. No, when you clip this, you go find that fucking clip. He in the front shooting, but looking at the shit, he's done. Oh, shit. Listen, guys, can't nobody do shit? Get away with shit. Look at a guy who shot up the school of it.

God bless. Brown. They only had him from the back. They can't really think. I thought he was black. Today, they just released another film. It's a white guy with a beard. They got him.

he's going down. Like, it's just too many ring things, too many cameras, too many this. Tell me that. Like, right now, if you pop off, just know you're going to jail. Like, just, if you get caught on Campbell,

or are you looking at you. No, no, you're in Canber, bro. You are in Canberra. They killed the kid, what's his name? Julio Fulio, the fucking car was the camera. The Tesla shit got cameras. They're like, okay, Johnny B.

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And I'm Matt Rogers and we'll join athletes from 93 countries as Two Guys Five Rings hits the Italian Alps for the 26 Milan-Cortina Olympic Winter Games. Open your free IHart Radio app. Did we mention it's free? Search Two Guys Five Rings. And listen. Welcome to the A building. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Minnick Lamouba.

It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King, Jr. had both been assassinated. And Black America was out of breaking point. Writing and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale. In Atlanta, Georgia, at Martin's Almermata, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in black history,

Martin Luther King's senior and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. to be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people would die. 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should, and it will blow your mind. Listen to the A-building on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

podcast. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the on-purpose podcast. On a recent episode, I sat down with Nick Jonas, singer, songwriter, actor, and global superstar. The thing I would say to my younger self is congratulations. You get to marry Priyanka Chopra Jonas. And also, you know, your daughter's incredible. That's beautiful, man. Yeah. Thank you. That's so beautiful. I can see that got you a little. Yeah, for sure. Our daughter, she came to the world under sort of very intense circumstances, which I'd not really talked about ever. Growing up on Disney in front of a million, how did that shape your sense of self? I went blank. I hit a bad note, then I couldn't kind of recover. And I built up this idea

that music and being musician was my whole identity. I had to sort of relearn who I was if you took this thing away. Who am I? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. But all you had to do back in the day to get yourself a great lawyer. Because believe it or not, it's your life on the line. But other than you going to jail, the whole shit is theater.

It's like Hamilton. Their lawyer against your lawyer. Right. Your lawyer talking that shit, he's movie this and this net. You might come the fuck home. Right, you might. Not with the camera no more.

And they go, oh, okay. And then you could be the case on camera nowadays, too, though, man. Because they got the AI shit. So it's like, was that me? You know what I'm saying? You got an AI coming into effect. It's going to...

AI going to fuck up the police shit, vocally and all that too. That thing is in jail. Why is the AI already? They made them say shit. They didn't say they did think about it. You know, that AI shit, a whole... You were talking about the 1800, man. You fuck her with it?

Yeah, we're fucking with it. I had them on that shit, though. That man was... He was gone. He was going. Put me up. Turn me. Let's turn that.

You want the red one or the white phone, baby. Which one you? We got it all, Cristolino. That's the one he's the one he been fucking with. Let me fuck with that one. That's the shit. He was fucking. Now you're gonna.

This shit is the truth serum. I thought you were running. Yeah, I am. But I'm saying that one got busy, so it must be good. He's like, he's like, he's looking at the less of the bottle happened. Yeah. I mean, that got to be the one that's it. That's the one.

I was Jado. Yeah. The other day we had Tony Yeo and Muriel. with murder on here and Shadyl was going. He had that 1800. Yeah.

What? That man was elusive. He had the fluidity. Let him tell him. It's a good... It was a good day. I call kids banged up in a few stuff. Kids be banged up.

But when he banged up, he's like, smooth. Yo, right? He ain't loud and... No, I end up anywhere. Yeah? So, Fad... No.

I end up in... your house, me. Like, I'm the worst. I'm the best. Look, I don't really drink, but when I drink, I never had a bad time in my life. So back in the days when I'm out drinking, I end up in house parties

or shit, I'm not supposed to be there. Like, yo, fat joke. Seek the kingdom. I'm the nigga's house parties. Like, he drinking. They're like, yo, no, that shit when you drink, never had a bad time of your life. No, I never had like the, like, you know how you have a bad reaction?

I'm a fun drunk. I guess have fun, tell jokes. The biggest problem, if I'm on the street, I'm going to where I'm not supposed to go. With Fat Joe would never go sober in his life. He'll be in, he might end up in the, I don't even gamble, might end up in the back of a gambler. I'm not supposed to be in these places.

Right. I'm up in that motherfucker twisted. Yo, you gotta stop, man. You got 18-100. They trying to get me on the sauce. I'm already a bad. Toast the real. Toast to the real.

1800. We like you. That's right. You're going to do a tour for this project? Yeah, yeah. I'm playing a tour together. Me and Millie's about to go on tour. Fire.

Because we're about to drop a project. I'd probably like February, March. No doubt. Some of the things you don't like in hip hop today. Oh, Lord. I did something special for you today. No. My family, which you play in.

your family because you grew up over there. You got the sauce. The sauce. You got the mustard sauce. Come beside Johnson. I trained. That's my shit. That's the house that Joe built.

Now, come here. Come here. Sit down real quick. So you're a Johnson or you work for the Johnson? No, I am a Johnson. You are a Johnson. How old are you? I'm 32.

I've been there longer than you. I'll tell you to be true. When everything said and done, it's hurt. Ruby knows wife? No, me. That's his wife. That's his wife. That's his wife.

This is a sister. You're saying something to you. The mother, the dog. Yo, bro, you're playing with me now. You even know who. Your husband knows me since I'm three years off. This is correct. Yeah.

Three years old, I've been going to Johnson's fried chicken. The mustard sauce. This is it, huh? You'll bleed busting? Man. Where they're selling that? Online. Online.

Johnson's BBQBX.com. Or you can go to Johnson's barbecue on 163rd Street between 10th and a union. That's my word. That's my stuff. Yo, he keeps saying because he knows Groovy Lou. He's like, yo, I'm like, yo, you violate you, man. Because it's across the street from my house. I don't think you understand.

across the street. My brother used to buy out the whole Johnson. Angel. Angel. It's a legend in Johnson. My brother bought a whole if it's 30 people there, everybody chicken and mustard. This thing. He loved Johnson's fried chicken. We all do.

Is it true that you own a farm down south? Yes. And so the chicken has always been organic. Everything. Everything. We never knew that. That's before organic. It was organic. Yep. Collard greens fresh every morning. Yams. Fresh.

fresh. From down south. It's in Acomac, Virginia. That's where my grandmother's from. And then my grandfather Yes. My dad's dad. He's from Sumter, South Carolina. How many years we've been doing this since since 1964? So I believe that's

Black on an operator. Thank you. America, you're playing yourself. I beg you to purchase Johnson's mustard sauce. There is no better mustard sauce

in America. Now, I've been to spots down south when he's had the similar the minute I eat it, I'm like, oh shit, but still, it's like, I say at least they stole Johnson's recipe down there. I go in there and say, damn, they know about the

mustace. Everybody don't know about the mustard sauce. This is the mustard sauce of champions right here. Thank you. This is the fucking one. Oh, shit. Thank you. Man, and that's crazy.

We have some more bottles out there. No, we need that. We're going to do that on Christmas. You know, I've been on a diet, keto. I don't understand. The doctor... Oh, my God. You know what I was...

No, I can't. Listen, I'm skinnier than I ever been in my life. I swear to God, the doctor said, 242, the doctor said, yo... You skinnier than you ever, but guess what, buddy? Need you to fast, keto, no carbs, no, nath. I say, yo, how, you know the doctor like a mechanic.

They find something wrong with you every time, but I come up in there. I said, yo, I'm skinnier than I ever been. He's like, we got to work on it. You got to give me, I don't want to look like a crackhead, though. You know what those guys had that face sunk in and shit like that? Johns have definitely seen some of all. Oh, shit. Zombie Awards.

You guys to write the book. Teeth missing, all that. Everybody limping. Yo. Shit crazy. Everybody limping. You want me to lie to you? It's like, you know, the hood got to take care of themselves.

I used to work in my uncle bodegging. They come in for the picnic. Look, look. He reminiscing right now. No pork on his fork. He said, man, let me tell yourself, that pig feet. No pork of my. My fork, no ham in my pan.

Y'all got me twisted. I ain't eat pork since I'm about 11 years old. What I'm trying to tell you is that when I worked in my uncle's bodega, they used to come up in, everybody, diabetes, everything, they're coming in there for the pickle, the sausage, the

now all of foul shit. They eat all the foul shit. They're coming in there for that shit. We're like, yo, Mr. Johnson, are you sure you need this? Are you sure you want that, they'd be like, yo, man, this is my shit by here, but to each his own bottle of 1800.

Shout out to Groovy Loo. He is really connected with it. I was doubting him. He kept telling me he's the Johnson. This is that Groovy Loo's my man. And, yo, let me tell you something. Johnson's fried chicken came through. They got the fried. It's the best. It's the best. There's no way around.

There's nowhere. You got food out there? Yes. You can't do that to me. Because I'll tear the pain off that bathroom. I've been pure a whole week. I've been pure a whole week. Veggies,

no carbs. Man, and I'm like, borderline. To the pain off the wall, I eat one of them fried chickens right now, some ribs. Because let me tell you something. You know when your system been cleansed, my shit is cleansed. Right now, you see me drinking the water.

You didn't give me no water, nothing for drinking no water. Right. You gotta finish what? Yeah. What's your name again? Stacia Johnson.

Thank you, Stasia. We love you. The Johnson family. Thank you for everything. Okay. It's been a pleasure. We always looked up to your family in our hood.

Let me tell you something. Them guys, were they ever from forests or they just opened over there? No, just opened over there. That's crazy. One-663. Yeah, from here.

Yeah, and then they moved to Mount Vernon. I tell a famous story about not Johnson's, but the ghetto Chinese on the corner. You know, I went to school with the two kids. Oh, really? We used to make fun of them. They had, like, dirty Chinese kids, people living in their house and all that above the restaurant.

I seen them kids years later, and they was like, you know, everybody that was sleeping on the floor owns four Chinese restaurants. Wow. So that's how they bring the home. Oh, yeah. Crew in there, they sleep in there. Generation of wealth.

The players, 20 people turned into like 80 Chinese ghetto joints. Yeah, and the ghetto Chinese ain't scared. They open up in Africa. They open up in Cuba. They don't give up. You go to Haiti, the only shit's staring at ghetto Chinese Haitian food. That shit go anywhere. They're not scared.

They're not scared of nothing. They're not scared of nothing. I used to go to Africa when they're only off. has been everywhere in Africa. Like literally Ali Bumayet. And they ain't a hood in Africa that don't got a ghetto

Chinese. They're there. They're not scared. They'll go anywhere. My African man understand that, man. Your African men might not been to more African than this.

I had two years, I thought, I had two years. I thought I was, listen, I thought I was back. How the African ain't been the most of Africa. You know, I'm like the Doseki's guys. I'm a most interesting man in the world.

But every part of Africa, I've been in. Every part. Where you're from in Africa? I've been to Ghana. You know that. Ghana, Garbon, Djibouti. Any way you name, Luanda, Rwanda, Sierra Leone, South Africa,

been to Swazzi, Lama, Nigeria, Wakanda? Not Wakanda. And Uganda, Uganda, Kenya, Zimbabwe. You're talking to the wrong. I've been a Somalia.

I've been to every hood. I met DaBido at the All-Star game. Man, told me, yo, I've seen you in my village ten times. Me? Yo, me. Man, you crazy, man. I've been in every hood in Africa where they don't have clippers. They cut your hair with a fucking, they take the razor.

out of the big shaver, and they line your, come on, you're my man. Am I lying? They line your shit up with the razor from inside the bit. And they cut in my hands, 10,000 people watching fat jokes. Are you nuts? I'm in every part of Africa. I remember I came back from Africa and went to like Mr. Child or something. I've seen one of our favorite rappers.

I don't want to get killed. I don't want to get killed. But this guy always talking about Africa. going back to Africa. He was like, yo, crap, what's up, man? You look tired. Where you come from? I said, Africa.

He said, shit, I ain't going over there. I said, man, you missed to go back to Africa. Oh, he's fucking. You missed to go back to Africa. He was like, yo, I ain't going to. Say it. Say it. No, sir.

You're talking about the boy. Not that. God's son. Not that. Now, I ain't talking about God. I ain't talking about God, son. I'm just telling you there's a famous rapper. It wraps about Africa and all that.

And when I seen him, I was like, he was like, yo, where you come from? I said, Africa. He was like, Africa. Nigger, what you're doing over there? I ain't going over there. I'm saying, yo. And they got the Dysheki on.

Talking about he's going on there. Let's not throw shots of Garson. I didn't say that, guys. It's all right, but, you know, Mr. Nix. What's up, baby? Shout out to the Nix, man. I got to take it back. We've done it up at the end.

like what Mike Brown is doing. You know, I'm a Tibbs guy, so I'm wearing kids to start at the beginning. Because the man wears some bullshit sneakers. I'm going to keep... Sin them a little pin T.S. I'm not sneakers. Turn them up. And so I'm looking at him, he got like vans on and shit like that.

I'm like, yo, you just sneaker game. Feet. I might have to. I give him a... Tibbs used to rock Jeevon, Shee, Versaches, and all this. This guy, he got some bullshit on. His feet might be different. This shit.

hurt. You know, this sneaker game? He's he got a lot of courage to wear them shits. You wear that shit in the wrong hood. You got a nail in your shit. They ain't got the pro-cad shit like that. That shit out of control.

You got a nailing you shit and you I'm trying to... All right, man. Let's get Mike Brown some good feet. Let's take Mike Brown on your shit. Shopping for sneakers? Yeah, let's go. No, we got to do it. You're going to take Mike Brown shopping for sneakers, man. Joe hit us up. What you recommend?

What you think he need on his feet? Anything he's going to wear his shit like this. So we got to get him comfy shit. Yo, his shit like this. Tires is low. Yo, Tires is low. That's all fucking decent.

Yo, that's it. Tires is low. Tires is low. I brought all my cars up from Miami. Tires is low. I can't even drive them to you all. All them shit. is like this.

If I hit one bump, I'm done. Like, you know, it got me started. Oh, shit, 1800. 1800. 1800.

Everybody's drinking that all day today, man. Let me tell you something of work wonders for JD Kiss. Jada Kiss, he on that 1800. Yeah. He's gone. He's going.

I like that. Sometimes he want to come in here quiet, shy, shit like that. 1800? Oh! The man on that shit talking that shit. And so...

No, we're going to play something? But I was asking the question that we never got answered. What do you don't like that's acceptable in hip-hop today? It probably ain't how you was taught in hip-hop coming up. I always am saying, niggas don't want to rap with them. It's hard to... Yeah. They're giving them the running around.

There's a lot of funny money. You did... No, but... It's crazy. You can't off. Y'all went through that same shit. And it's like, I seen... He did that to me my own career.

You don't get you. He got mad features for me. Yeah. Yeah. But, see, we came from the time when you... It was no emailing for none of that. Right, right, right. He couldn't...

He had to meet up. It wasn't even a way to send a song. You had to go to the studio to do. You know that. That helped us now with this Tetris way of recording. Yeah, that's definitely a problem right there. For me, he was like, People be scared to getting that booth.

I don't know. But I always thought it was about like about like swapping fans with this shit. You feel me? As I'm trying to grow as I'm trying to- It's all about collaboration. Don't let nobody lie. I want to get loan over here and all of that shit.

I did some, don't get me wrong. I did some big features that I'm blessed and honored for. That's one. And another dang is just that they put in a rap game. They just be allowing, like they allow motherfuckers to get away with fuck shit that ain't supposed to be okay, man. Like the rat and shit, the corny shit. Like once you've done, you're done.

It's like, you know what I mean? And I understand we in the world where everybody flag for the excepting the rats. Yeah, yeah, except on the play. Let's do that. No, that's probably the one change of events I'd never seen coming. Yeah, because that shit was like, that used to push you out the industry back in the day. You had to stand on that shit. You had to have a strong camp.

You had to, now it's like a motherfucker. If you call a motherfucker that's a rat and he know he a rat, his man going up pole. on you like you feel me like we're about to kill a real nigga for saying obvious you know for me y'naker's really like ready to kill a real nigga for staying that this nigga a rat you feel me i'm gonna tell you some crazy shit right so i know a guy his name is legendary

that's new york no i'm just trying to take yo yo kids you gotta stop he's a legend beyond took 10 years took 15 like this guy busting this gun in jail all you could imagine he just there's nothing wrong you can say about. Right. Been in there

with the lions, the Titans. So one day I see him in recent times and he's standing next to this dude that ratted on 46 dudes, the whole carter.

This is one of the biggest rats in the Bronx history. I see, yo, he got the bag. I got to hold him down. I know he a rat. But, you know, I was like,

like, how you did he? That's going to play out. That's crazy. So my science behind it, right? Because some people say, yo, he ain't right on me or whatever. My science behind it is this. As much as you love a guy,

if he just told him 47 guys, if anything go wrong, if we got to pound somebody out of front of the building, he's telling him, how do you feel safe with being with this guy knowing how the game could just change on you at any moment and you got the guy you done?

Yeah. He's going to tell. Right. And so that's my biggest, If you think you could trust the rat guy, when he's all said and done, he gets in that interrogation, he's telling him.

He might be telling on the way he there. Yeah, he's going to definitely tell. We told once and he told twice. We'll fold once in it fold twice. I won't say who. You want me to say who? So I think people were questionable, even myself,

about hearing rumors about R. Kelly, but he made the greatest music ever. So everybody was like He can't do it or he ain't do it And he's just Why he's in this controversy He keeps dropping Move your body like to stay

Number one number one Number one number one And everybody's like Not looking at it Because they're like yo he got the greatest music Nowadays You got a guy that might have told They got the hottest music in the

And they don't give a fuck They like sold out arena We don't care The man got the hot modest music. We don't care. Right. I think...

The music didn't tell. Yeah, but what I think is, the music being hot... Overpowers the... Yes. It overpowers, whatever, you know, and then be a guy like me

and you sound dinosaur. We almost playing ourselves, like, yo, we ain't with this rat shit. Yo, we don't... They're looking at you now. What are you talking about? That's because a lot of people, a lot of people never been told on.

Never been in that situation where they had the time. You feel me? So people don't understand that. You've never been told on, you can't relate. You know, is throwing it back. 20s, the decade. To the days of huge hits and unforgettable albums.

A non-stop stream of the biggest and best. Drake, Rihanna, Beyonce, Katie Gaga, the weekend. And more. All your decade defining favorites all in one place. Hi, it's Katie Perry. Hey, it's Bruno Mars. This is Kesha. Find 2010's The Decade on the free I-Heart Radio app.

Preset the station so it's always one tap away. Stygots here. I have a podcast empire. It continues to grow. And I have brought it here to IHart. I'm also doing a live radio show from 3 to 5 p.m. Eastern because my wife wanted to kick me out of the house. It's called Stugats & Company Live, which is available in podcast form right when the show finishes every single day. Some of the biggest names in sports.

A lot of phone calls. I love you guys' this show. It's one of my favorites. A lot of interaction. Guys not take it. themselves too seriously. Those are just some of the things that you can expect from Stugats and Sto Gats & Company Live. So listen to Stugats and Company Live and our original podcast. Please subscribe, rate, and review. Stugats and Company and God bless football, Taylor's livelihood depends

on it. Do it today. And you can check all of those out on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Seems like just yesterday that the two guys, Five Rings podcast was in Paris for the Olympics. And now we're heading to Milan for the 26th Milan Cortina Olympic Winter Games. I'm Bowen-Yang. And I'm Matt Rogers and we'll join athletes from 93 countries as Two Guys Five Rings hits the Italian Alps for the 26 Milan-Crotina Olympic Winter Games. Open your free IHart Radio app.

Did we mention it's free? Search Two Guys Five Rings and listen now. Welcome to the A building. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Minilic Lamuba. It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King, Jr. had both been assassinated.

And Black America was out of breaking point. Writing and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale. In Atlanta, Georgia, at Martin's Almemata, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in black history, Martin Luther King's senior and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. to be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people would die.

In 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should, and it will blow your mind. Listen to the A-building on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get, your podcast. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the on-purpose podcast. On a recent episode, I sat down with Nick Jonas, singer, songwriter, actor, and global superstar. The thing I would say to my younger self is congratulations. You get to marry Priyanka Chopra Jonas. And also, you know, your daughter's

incredible. That's beautiful, man. Yeah. Thank you. That's so beautiful. I can see that got you a little. Yeah, for sure. Our daughter, she came to the world on sort of very intense circumstances, which I'd not really talked about ever. Growing up on Disney in front of a million, how did that shape your sense of self? I went blank. I hit a bad note, and then I couldn't kind of recover. And I had built up this idea that music and being musician was my whole identity. I had to sort of relearn who I was if you took this thing away. Who am I? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

podcast. I'm not going to tell a story until a story turns out okay no no I'm going to tell you this story but I'm not going to tell the name to somebody comes out after this and just says he chose talking about not this one

right because they'll cat meaning you want to throw 700 flowers for all shit the hotel they'll start throwing it this there's no way to believe me if I say the name okay there's no way you wouldn't believe Fad Joe if you heard

He's real this, this, this is that. You're like, yo, this nibaba. Right, right. I'm at a show. It's around this time. It's a Christmas show. Corporate. We get the freest bag in the world.

I'm only there with Rich. Uncle Dan. I don't even have my DJ. I'm on my way to the stage. Right? I'm behind stages. Dark as hell. Hammerstein Borough.

They introduced me, so I got to go out. When they do that, somebody appears. Mm-hmm. It gives me their hand. I'll shake people hand in the, In the airport all day, everybody. I'm fat Joe, I'm celebrity. So I said, what's up?

So he says, yo, you know who I am? They already introduced me. The music's going. Lean back is on. It was only like two songs. I said, nah. He said, yo, I'm such and such.

When I looked at him, I said, holy shit. Now, this guy's beyond a killer. He was extorting every rapper on earth. He was extorting. the streets. He was doing whatever. He was a monster out here. Legend of all legends.

Right. I couldn't wait to get off that stage. I ran back to this dude. I couldn't believe you were standing there. I said, now look at me, you rat motherfucking bastard. Piece of shit, cock. Suck a bitch. Your mother shit on her

face, nigger. You ever in your fucking life? Because it just happened. I don't know what the dynamic is. May Baino bumped into Troy Ave. Troy Ave had a baby in this thing front of 10,000 people. I hear they had problems.

But, you know, said, what's up? I wouldn't have done that, right? But said, what's up? They caught that bitch in 4K. A white person had to catch that fucking footage right there. That wasn't no-hood shit. And it's everywhere. So I was scared this nigga said

what's up to me. And he had a cameraman somewhere because they said he was running down on anybody He was the realist in New York. And they were, nah, but my bag, son. I would have never talked about you. Oh, this thing.

I'll tell you, I'll give you a clue. My man Wally World told him hood plays. The man went to the middle of the hood play. He's a rat of war rats. And told all the OGs we ever seen in Fed Magazine and all of them. He was like, yo, who got a problem? Who won it? Everybody was like,

Mom's the worst. No. But what I'm saying to you is, Jesus Christ Not only did I scream on this killer As I walked away This could have been a mistake It was a girl there

She'd scogey down and all that I turned back around Because I see I see Dave E's face You are part of this story You don't even know it But listen No no listen

You're part of it I'm not just there I don't fucking mind part of this Because you was complaining about the nigga In the back of my store All of y'all kept telling me, yo, this dudes out here moving

like this, this, this, that, this, this, this, this, I'm just saying, you don't even know who I'm talking about. Let me talk to the people. Whether he's talking about, I was complaining about anybody for years. What I'm saying, no, what I'm saying is this guy, this guy was shaking everybody. Yeah, I know. Right?

So he was shaking everybody down. Because the rest is down. Not us. I'm talking about from the biggest of the distance. So you tell and kill. No, he wasn't in the story. Say that again. You were telling kill.

You were telling kill. You're the most dangerous person in the world. So I go and I see Davey's tell me something. But when I'm walking away. No. So I turn back around and I go right back up to this guy again. Pieces shit, right? This, he's looking.

They will never believe this. That's why I can't say the name. He's looking down. I pick his chin up. said, look me in the eye, nigga. Yeah, yeah, you look me in the eye, nigga. You know what this is. I'm not dumb.

Yeah. I'm not these niggins. You know what? He knew I put in work for real. He looked at my eyes. First time I realized somebody, you look at the crazy guy in the eyes, their eyes are open up,

and they said, holy shit, this, he puts in that work. He knew when he said, phone my life. Phone rang off. Everybody was calling me, like, yo, I heard this, this, this.

I was like, yo, it is, you know, the only person I won was my man who would be in that neighborhood. I was like, yo, you know, I had to scream on. I knew what was going to happen, right? Because no disrespect, the game been using me. The rap game has been using me for so many years. Every rapper get beef. I inherit their beef. I got a this, this, this.

They've been using me so much. So when these guys kept telling me and I've been seeing this, I knew the buck stops here. There's the reason why it was so beautiful for me to stop the beef for 50 cents. Because I knew the buck stops here. I knew where it was going to go live in action, direct it. Everybody was like, yo, let's hope they bump into each other because these guys too, they're going to go.

Right? But, you know, that's a form of manipulation. That's a form of using, you know, you adjust the guy in the beef that you know, Oh, they're gone. This guy. Playing a different game. He moving you like a piece. Yeah.

I was used as a young kid in this industry as a dumb, impulsive jumping out. This, this, this, this. I was used by other rappers. Who wouldn't put in that work. And they were like, yo, Joe, Joe, you know, you know, this, this. And I'm, well, I knew with this guy, I had nothing to do with this guy. Right. I had no beef with him.

I had no problem. I never met this guy before. I never this. I fucking knew. It was going to be fat Joe, who was going to see this guy. And I didn't give a fuck if it was in Madison Square Garden, the streets. That was going to be the same outcome. Right.

10,000 cameras. So I'm looking, I'm hoping somebody else bump into this dude that's going to jump out. Yeah. But, you know, that's how the game go, man. But listen, let me tell you something. Yeah, that's something that bothers me in hip-hop. It ain't my problem. Huh?

That is hip hop We're talking about You'll see Yeah for real though This shit going viral Without a name, bro This thing They know what I'm talking about

Bro, this ain't This ain't a regular dagler Yeah You know what I'm saying But I just You know some stories You can't tell people Because they say I'm cap

You know what I'm saying You can sell anybody Anything You got the power To just say it Leave you now They believe me now You think so?

I'm not cat like ya. No. No, but this one I do. This particular story, I've been waiting for somebody to say it other than me. I've been falling back like, I, somebody's going to say the story. And I'm the man for a job.

Nobody was there. There was a girl there and she was fucking, I wish I would have seen her faith. That's the biggest mistake. If there's ever been a mistake to haunt me and beef in my life, is all systems go one way. And I look around. at the surroundings.

Like somebody fronted on my brother, I was looking at what, for him all day. I seen him. I said, pussy, pull over. Pull over, pussy. Pull over.

I jump out. He jumped out. He acted extra tough. I don't know why. We start fighting immediately. When I turned around, there was like a thousand guys with this guy. I didn't look at the other 30 trucks.

So when you get that tunnel, vision? The troop is there's a girl who's the witness to this that was Gucci down to the socks

from the jacket to the shoes to the boots to the this she was there right on she was a witness who is it

we got look I don't know who she is but you're here you're gonna hear after this episode they're gonna tell you because some people know

some people know yeah they know but you know it's like but I got tired of that I've been tired of like people using me

to do certain things and jump out the window and this and this and that because I know there's certain things I'm not going to tolerate in no way, shape, or form. But, you know, and then I think of

it was almost a time travel. Right? So when the guy shakes my hand and I realize who he is, all I see is faces are all my friends that got 40 years, 30 years, 20 years, 10 years, 15 years,

this, this, this, immediately. Whatever. When he say, yo, I'm upset. such. I said, this pussy put everybody in jail. Like, you got to be kidding me. My best friend doing 46. That's what I'm saying. That's what it's about. You can't be a hypocrite in this shit. You can't be, you got to stand on what you stand on. Because it's like, I'm going to apply the same pressure to whoever.

I'm not going to change my tone for no man. For me, if I feel like you were a fuck, nigger, I'm going to pull you on that. Especially if I thought you was a real nigga at first, because I'm thinking you my con. I'm bringing you in this world. I'm going to this world. Like, I fuck with you. This game gets tricky. Yeah, so if I feel like I fuck with you, I go, damn, I, I eat solid. I rock with that nigga.

But the same way, the same way I'm treating you like my brother, I'm going to treat you like my enemy once I find out you did something that that ain't a part of our movement or what we stand for. You feel me? Like, I honor y'all, y'all the big bros of this shit, you know what? If I hear some shit like, yo, oh, what? Kiss when I was bad. Oh, kiss when I was bad.

You feel me? Also, let's be clear about that. That's not going to say the same thing. I was going to be too, though. Hold up. Let's not go kiss when I'm bad. You also have to see who the best. messengers. Of course.

No, because what's going on now, whether he cheated on her or this and this and that, the people who be talking the shit, people they disgrunt through employees, fake former friends that got cut off. You know what this is to even be with you? For you to cut somebody off, it lights out. For him, every day, whether he wants to deny, he's

performing for Alan Arsson's birthday, fly shit, That's a different lifestyle. You're pulling up in Miami. We're going to Cald's party. He's walking through this. That's a life. When you take one of them guys and go, lights out, baby, it's over. That Yonkers Community Center ain't hitting like DJ Callid's 50 year birthday.

No, now there's no more goals gym. You got to work out of St. Barry's gym. It's a whole different thing. So you don't realize that when people who we once had, love for they fuck up to the point of where maybe they just, whatever the case may be, those be the guys, the messages of that bad news. A lot of times you can't really take them as credible. Of course now.

You got to get their car fax all the time. You can't just, as a real nigga, you got to do your homework on whatever anybody telling you. As soon you got real nigga as a real individual, you do your homework on whatever. Whatever. Because I'll be saying shit, it'd be like, especially with this Instagram shit, it's like, it'd be like, oh shit. Yeah, it's a lot. Those shit, some new shit about such and such and this.

And who's that girl? Who's that guy? Yeah. Ivan Rodriguez says that this, he never got, like, who the fuck are you? Right. So all of a sudden, the gossip of the week is somebody we never heard in our life who might be the biggest piece of shit, scumbag in the world says something about somebody.

We've been loving for 20 years. And all of a sudden, that's not. And it gave him a voice to talk. They gave him a whole platform to talk and post it, everything. And it's like, what? And then start analyzing the shit. Yo, what Ivan's true. What Ivan said, what Ivan said was your social security number.

Yo, my man, well, at least that I've been able to see through that. Right. The normal public ain't able to see through that because they keep running the same play. Yeah. It was a DVD back in the days. I don't know. It was like snitching. or whatever, right? Pistol Pete was on there, a bunch of rappers.

And every rapper went on there and it was like, Snitches, get stitches. If he snitch, you kill him. If you did, stit, that, every rapper. I went in there and said, please don't do the crime. If you do the crime, you do the time. Don't cross the street if it ain't green. Don't drive the car if you ain't got a license. And that's just the way it go. You know within yourself if you could do the time or you can't. Don't be pretending. I knew what Dominican

dude, this dude was fucking he had a Lamborghini as long as I knew him popping bottles every single night. They say he got caught the minute they took him in the festival. He was like, what I'm doing here, Poppy? What am I doing here, Poppy? Oh, you're saying?

He told on the whole Dominicans. Yeah. But he had Lamborghinis and Ferraris his whole life. I've been seeing him in the clubs, yo, popping 10,000 bottles. they sit the second you went out on my friend

what are we doing? That'd be a street nigger plan B. Like how you give a girl to be? They plan B is all right. I got something for you, what am I doing it? Get out of jail, free car. No, no, but I'm saying

some people hustle so long. Like, you know, when you go, if we go down to El Chapo, they say the only thing you could do is plant poppy. There is no other job. There's nothing else. When you wake up and you a kid 10 years old,

they put you on the field to plant you could be doing coffee you could be doing cocaine that is the trade do coffee do kiss cafe how's the sales

the kiss cafe since this joint been going on because I've been watching the other day I binged to Joe and Jada and I noticed I've been promoting more than you the kiss cafe

it's doing good I think so pops he owes me a half of 1% good Kiss Cafe Coffee.com. Get you some hole, some ground hole, get you see K cups. I mean, best coffee out there, man.

Probably 53. Why drink a 53-year-old cup of coffee? Well, you can drink a 42-year-old cup of coffee. Rewind the time, number one, all over. You know what I'm saying? If you need to get your shit glazed up, looking like a motherfucking movie, then you get that rewinded time.

Sallie's stop and shop. We out in Canada now. So we expand it. Yeah, we went over the border. So we out there. You got some new music, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. My new album out going crazy, man.

Every day June 30th, 10-year anniversary, shit going crazy right now. Going to hear something. Let's hear something. I'm a catalog rapper, man. I ain't no TikTok rapper, man. I'm that nigga, you got. I'm a cloth. Yeah, he do.

He rap, for real. You're carving. You mob out. You feel me? Every day in a party. No sound effects. You got that pain. Yeah, that real pain.

Why, you set this track up for us. What are we about to hear? Oh, this right here is called Look Through My Eyes. I'm paying homage to DMX, of course. The dog. His birthday to day, too. Happy birthday to the dog. The perfect segue.

Double nickel. I'm paying Amis. I got the X-Lo going on and that shit. Here you go. Of course, with everything that I've built off, but X is the, uh, is in my top five. Appreciate that, love. Appreciate that, man. A dog forever.

Let's go. Let's get it. Frankie Cock. Frankie Crocker that shit. NJV. Almighty. New Quinity. You ever seen a nigga's soul lift up from the ground Niggas whizks whirrined about me scared to say it out loud

He know I put a nigga body where it can never be found That snitch and shit it was never allowed Put a rat on a sticky trap leave him stuck to the ground Like, what are we telling him now If he wasn't built for this shit like why you coming around? Like why you around? I remember collect call mama this shit son Now I'm locked up again for another gun

Last week the cops was at the house I'm on a run Can't complain about the game I take it how I come My time for that being bitch and bought another bitch Thank you to myself like Damn I need another bitch I don't need head bro snitch on some other shit Now I can't fuck with nobody's like I'm sell a bitch Pen in the fields is a shit I'm a veteran

Devil's in the offer for my soul I ain't selling it Nica try I'm up in the pole with no hesitant Wasn't here when I was in the cold you're irrelevant I don't matter to me I can go Zay night the Knicks talk and you Swip down to Zay night because it's hard to sleep If you get life you got a wife you're gonna be hard to reach Probably won't win they fight

You got heart at least Bit you bad, but you ain't bad at indirect deposit Won't even check on me, but one, check my pockets. Hope they never find that graveyard that's in my closet. If that day ever come, then I'm taking hostage. On my day off, I'm Craig playing with them boxes. Coach threw me off the team, found it in my locker. I was only 16 playing with a chopper.

You know, that boy was a shooter for he made the roster. Man, mush in a trap, 24-7. Nika try me, it's going down like 9-11. Never seen a head shot with a 5-7? No rats around me No, I won't let him Free rack, free K, free biddy Well, bro, this blue trial

With a pity Fet's want me bad to him And I can be me I go to see the TV Taking a look through my eyes See what I see Yeah Do as I do

Be who I bring Walking my shoes You gonna hurt your feet And get cold outside Gotta keep no heat Take a love through my eyes See what I see Do as I do

Do as I do Be who I be Walking my shoes You gonna hurt your feet It's that you're cold outside You gotta keep old heat Yeah And get cold

And you feel like you Know what you need It's better eat it Man That's right East Coast shit I know how we rockin, man Hey

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