Joe and Jada - Allen Iverson on NEW DOC SERIES w/ Steph Curry + LEGENDARY NBA & 76ers stories
Episode Date: October 23, 2025Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by their close friend and former NBA MVP Allen Iverson. A.I. tells them about his new documentary series ‘Allen Iv3rson’ produced by Steph Curry and Shaquil...le O’Neal that premieres TODAY on Prime Video. Joe and Jada chop it up with The Answer about some legendary stories involving all three of them, including A.I.’s wild nights out with Joe before New York Knicks games in his Philadelphia 76ers days, his iconic Reebok commercial with Jadakiss, going toe-to-toe with Los Angeles Lakers legend Kobe Bryant, and when former NBA commissioner David Stern read lyrics from Iverson’s rap album out loud to him. Stay till the end for an appearance from Allen’s mother, Ann Iverson, who tells some secrets from A.I.’s childhood. 4:00 - Joe & Jada's long-time friendships with A.I. 9:30 - Joe FINALLY gives A.I. his Terror Squad chain 11:15 - New doc series on Prime Video produced by Steph Curry & Shaq 20:00 - When your entourage gets too disrespectful 25:15 - R.I.P. John Thompson 27:15 - Michael Vick coming up in his hometown after him 34:30 - A.I. fact checks some of Joe's stories about him 42:30 - Jada & A.I.'s iconic Reebok commercial 45:30 - Going to war with Kobe Bryant 47:00 - David Stern & Adam Silver 51:30 - Joe still wants A.I. to get reparations for outfit fines 54:00 - Iverson's book 57:30 - A.I.'s mother joins & tells childhood stories [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] Joe and Jada now on Patreon All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Man, just to be able to tell your story,
regardless of how they accept it, everybody always talking about,
man, if I was AI, I would do this.
Bro, you not.
Yeah, yeah, what up, y'all?
This Joe Crack, the Dawn.
It's your boy Jada.
You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show.
You already know every show legendary, every show iconic.
And today, we remain to keep our word.
You know what I mean?
Today's guess, when you just think of the word real,
When you think of football, basketball.
Talk that shit, Jada.
You know what I mean?
When you just think of a different cloth.
When you think of not just changing their...
Greatest of all time, Keith.
The way they look at NBA players come out of the tunnel.
He used to get fined every day.
Now they want to see what the players is coming out with what the gear they got on.
He still hasn't got his proper just due for being, for starting the tunnel can, the crossover.
Oh, ah, woo.
Heart as big as a giant.
I could go on for years and years and years.
Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for our brother Allison Allen Ivison, Bobbuchar.
My brother, my brother of all brothers,
Alan, Barbara Chuck, Iverson,
Newport News, his finest.
Welcome to this show.
Crack, it almost, I almost fucked up myself.
It was my phone.
I forgot to call him.
He just gave a whole lecture of phone ringing.
He almost, he almost,
It's run off for the show.
I almost blew it.
Bubba Chuck.
My gosh.
Bubba Chuck, you know what I realized?
I never knew that before because I feel like I have a special relationship with you.
Absolutely.
I feel like I'm your brother.
I've been to your wedding.
I've been to your whole career, mom's nose.
I used to drive down to Philly.
But I realize you got a special quality.
You make everybody think they're your brother.
This guy thinks he's your brother, too.
For sure.
What do you mean?
Think.
You know, listen.
Let me explain something to you.
I thought me and you, but he talked to you the same way.
Do you got a bunch of friends that think they're your best friend?
Because I think I'm Island Officer's best friend.
He thinks it for sure.
I just know I hold a special place in his heart so quick.
For sure.
It's just who I am.
It's a tribute to who I am, what type of dude I am.
Always, for some reason, you know, I attract the worst motherfuckers in the world.
world and the best.
You know what I mean?
And that's the hardest part about navigating through life
is you got to depict which ones is which.
You know what I mean?
And you guys been around with me for decades.
You know what I mean?
We've had this relationship dog.
We was 20 years old.
You know what I mean?
And we're still here, still standing.
The relationship is nothing but didn't do anything but flourish.
You know what I mean?
You got closer and closer over the years.
And, you know,
Don't look at him too much.
I need the love.
Yeah.
I mean, come on, man.
You usually start hating
towards the end of the show.
No, no, no.
You know, but you know what's dope, though?
Like, when we see each other and passing,
yeah, we talk to each other on the phone
and we bump into each other a lot.
You know what I mean?
Just being in the same places.
But it's real shit when you know the person's crew.
They're everyday guys.
You know what I mean?
That's when you,
you know it's authentic.
You know what I mean?
When you know the home boys,
you ain't just walking up to him
and, you know, you're just happy
to see your man.
You know what I mean?
Them your dogs, too.
You know what I mean?
And that's legendary.
No, you know, he came to Raoul's funeral.
For sure.
Down in Miami.
My dog right there.
You know, we appreciate you for that.
He just, you know, that was a huge look for him.
You know what I'm saying?
When you're going out and the real ones
come down and we did.
Mall in Philly.
For sure.
It was a bunch of Muslim guys.
That's the first I've been to a Muslim funeral.
Me too.
You too?
Yeah.
That shit different, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, I want the box.
Like, let me tell you something.
A lot of my friends are Muslim, best guys in the world.
The only one.
I want a box.
I want people to cry.
I want people to come in a funeral.
Like, this was like real militant, right?
We got to wrap your body in 24.
Wrap your body, but then the ladies over here.
and then you can't talk.
He's with God.
He's talking to our live right now.
I'm like, yo, I'm trying to cry.
I'm trying to, like, you know what?
Yo, it's a funeral, you know what I'm saying?
But it was, it was different, right?
Then we throw the dirt on the music, brother, man.
Before that was Rob.
I don't want to bring bad shit, but Rob Boogie.
Yeah.
Rob Boogie was our God.
I think Rob Boogie made us even tight up.
For sure.
Because he's originally from the Bronx.
Yeah.
And he used to talk mega shit about.
Fat Joe and Terror Squad and being A-I, you don't, I want to get the moms, right?
Do you remember the first place I ever met you?
I'll tell you.
Well, it wasn't, no, you took me to Jimmy's.
No, no, way before that.
Let me tell you, so you was a kid.
We both was kids.
But Flojo was out.
I'm telling us we was kids.
What you're trying to say?
I'm while older than, get the fuck out of here.
The point is, I got a show in Virginia.
I ain't got $2 to rub together.
You was just going to college and all that,
but you came up to me,
and you had a bunch of dudes with you
and you all was in army fatigue.
It was like a fucking movie.
I got to put that in my series, right?
And it's a dark parking lot after the show,
and you just walking up with all these...
I don't know who the fuck you is.
You're walking up with all these dudes.
You're like, yo, crack.
I fuck what you know who I am.
I was like, nah.
You're, I'm Bubba Chuck.
Number one, nigga.
I'm going to lead this.
This, this, that.
That's how I met you, and you walked off.
And I was like, who is that guy?
Like, I knew it was something special about you when I met you there.
That's the first time I ever met you in the parking lot after a show,
and you just came up, and the whole crew had Army Fatigue Jackets on.
And y'all walked up.
This is before the bread and all that, but you, y'all walked up,
and you was like, yo, I'm that, I'm that dude.
You're going to see me.
I was like, I have my brother.
And from there, you know, we always saw each other.
I like to say no matter how much money you got
or how much you're worth.
You as powerful as who you can get on the phone.
And I've always been able to get them on the phone
no matter when.
I used to get you on the phone.
What's going on?
You're acting funny with me, bro.
And moms are saying moms, you know we're not playing that.
You know, moms.
Yo, why are you playing with me?
I did something to you?
Man, don't do that.
So he can't get me on the phone either.
No, he could get you on the phone.
Yo, bring that over here.
I got something for you that you deserved a long time ago, my brother.
That's why I'm a little late.
You're going to do that?
No.
No.
No, brother.
Christine Julian is.
That's crazy.
You know what it is?
Yeah.
You curse me out one day because you ain't have one.
He should have been.
He should have been having one of eight.
My job, brother, because it's my business partner.
He's in on that.
But that shit, you know, you deserve that long time ago, man.
Yo.
Yo.
Yo, let's trade you.
Yo, I finally got my T.S. shit.
Ah, big T.S, man.
Fire.
You said, Roe, got my joining.
Yeah.
Man, don't curse me all.
Fire.
Man, them curse me out 10,000 times.
Like, yo, man.
Where am I joined at?
He don't play that shit.
Yes, sir.
Only on Joe and Jay.
Oh, no.
The man, that's my family.
We love this guy.
It's a different type of love.
Love.
That's all with Chuck, boy.
Love was Chuck.
Oh, you other guys come on the show.
Thanks for coming, but don't expect.
He didn't get the cheap T.S. chain.
He got that shit, shit.
Like, don't come up in with that shit.
We'll give you a bubble gum off.
The 25 cents.
Cracker Jack joint.
Cracker Jack.
What's up, Jada, you know?
We're here, man.
We hear to talk about the new docu-series.
Ooh, what's to tell us about it.
Man, look, I said it last night at the premiere.
The way I describe it, it's a confirmation to the world.
That the devil is a sucker.
You know what I mean?
And he can't fuck with me.
Fucking right, bro.
You know what I mean?
He's a liar.
It's a liar.
He's a wimp.
He's a shrimp.
That's right.
He's a peon.
You know what I mean?
He's a manipulator.
He pray on the weak.
He pray on the people that don't believe in God.
You know what I mean?
He's just a sucker.
And my journey proves that the ups and downs in my life,
the turbulent times, the times where, you know, you fall down and then you believe in him so much,
it enables you to get back up, brush yourself off, keep on going.
My mom told me at eight years old I could be whatever I wanted to be in life, and I actually
believed her. You know what I mean? All those times of my friends in store garden, you know,
used to tease me, Chuck, you know, saying he going to the NBA, you know, nigger don't nobody
making it in the NBA from here.
You know what I mean?
You hit this, nigga, took this line.
You know what I mean?
Come on, Chuck.
You know what I mean?
You ain't making it come back in the crib.
I'm crying and all that.
Monty said, I can't do it, whatever.
She said, you can do whatever you want to do.
From that moment at eight years old,
I knew that I would be here right now today
because of those words that came from her.
You know what I mean?
And then navigating through this life,
all the things I've been through,
all the turbulent shit, the ups and downs.
You know what I mean?
My grandma told me before I got sentenced, the day they sent me to jail, I was 17, well, I was 8 years old.
They waited until I turned 18 to try me as an adult, 18 years old.
And that morning, I said, nah, nah, why are they doing this to me?
If they know that I didn't do what they accused me of doing, why is this happening to me?
You know, why is God letting this happen?
And she said, son, don't you ever question God?
And I never have.
I mean, from that point on, I never questioned God.
Anything that happens going in my life, you know what I mean?
I've been through a lot in my life, you know what I mean?
I've been through, you know, like you're talking about Rob Boogie, you know,
different friends of mine, truth, you know what I mean?
A lot of guys that I love, you know what I mean?
A lot of people in my life and my family that passed away, you know,
different things happening in my career, you know,
even getting to a point where my money was funny, you know,
the lowest part of my life
with getting divorced, you know what I mean,
from a girl that I've been with my whole life.
That man bless you at your lowest.
You know what I know everything.
And it's like, I never...
Right when you think it's over, you get a miracle check.
What?
Bam, Bubba, jump back like a motherfucker.
Yo!
Never questioning them, though.
What?
You know what I mean?
And it's a gift.
It's a gift crack.
You know what I mean?
This documentary is a gift to that.
And everybody, like, you know,
they do it.
It's so cliche when we always talk
about, you know, us as entertainers, athletes or whatever, that we're only supposed to be
role models to kids. You know what I mean? We inspire everybody, all ages. You know what I mean?
We inspire them. You know what I mean? We helped them believe. You know what I mean? They live,
you know, through us and believe through us, you know what I mean? People look at it if Chuck
can make it, I know I can. And that's the message. That's the gift to show you everything
that I went through, you know, throughout my life. And being an open book, you know,
a lot of motherfuckers just be so
embarrassed about things that
they went through in their life, the ups and downs
and the mistakes that they made.
I ain't that, you know what I mean?
My girl tell me all the time, you always let
motherfuckers stress you out and, you know,
you care so much about people. Why do you do
that? And that's not a gift that I
have. I don't know how. I try my
hardest to not let it stress me out, whatever.
I'm just like that. I'm a big heart of people
person, and I love who I love.
You know what I mean? But my gift,
a gift that I do have,
is that I am an open book.
I don't mind, you know, telling you the mistakes that I make.
I tell my kids all the time, you know, why do you have to learn the hallway?
You know what I mean?
And I already did.
You know what I mean?
Why can't you listen to what I'm telling you?
I love you.
I want you to do what's right.
I don't want you to go through the shit that I went through.
And I made this big-ass uproar.
Like, last night before last one was it, the night before last, we did Atlanta, the book tour.
And Tip told me, he said, um, he said, um, he,
moderated my joint and he was like um yo man your home boys did a number on you you know but
he was saying it you know he was saying it like all you talk about is the pain and the hurt that
you have from the dudes that you grew up with like these motherfuckers like i was the one that took that
ass whipping were bringing your entourage and you remember i was the first one that took everybody
from my my hood with me you know what made to show them the world and ain't none on here
Something controversial all the time, and ain't none of them there.
I say you're the closest thing to Tupac
because you're the only person I ever seen play basketball
and have a fucking after-party in every city
where the realest guys.
These guys ain't no fucking chumps.
Got the AI, the Allen-Ovison jerseys on,
the whole fucking party.
Every night, guys that won't give it up to somebody,
guys that ain't in the business of being sucked.
because they was wearing the AI jerseys.
And I was like, yo, I always tell everybody,
I say, you know, that was the closest thing.
I've seen the Tupac Shakur, the love and the pure respect
from every gangster and every hood that you have always had.
You know, I want to go back to the devil, right?
Because I want people out there to know,
if you're righteous and you God's child,
and you know that all you want to do,
do is help people, give back to your community, help your friends, be a good role model even
though, you know, we flawed. And somebody attack you direct, I don't think they're just bad
people. I don't think they're semi-evil. I think they're doing the devil's work. If they know
you with God, right, because it's been some times in my life where I say, yo, God, you know,
I'm God's child. Sure. And they coming at me like,
Like this, I already know.
I said, yo, this guy's down with the devil.
He's sending the motherfuckers in sheep clothing.
Like, he sent him, you know what I mean?
You got a, you got a...
Mean it's disguises ever.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
And I've seen it.
He's a sucker.
You know what I mean?
Why do you think he all...
The motherfucker never win.
He always in second place.
He's powerful, but he always in second place.
He never win.
He on God's Hill, but he don't never win.
You're a sucker.
You're a loser.
Remind me of that old-school movie, where you think,
The whole stylish jump.
Your whole style is jump.
Your whole style is jump.
He's a sucker.
His whole style is jump.
Only people want to be like him or look up to him or rock with them is weak people.
You know what I mean?
Weak people.
Easy to influence people.
People that's easy to manipulate.
You know what I mean?
That's why I love, like, I talk all that shit about the injustices that niggas did to me in my life.
But it's like a gift back to God.
It's like, here you go, Chuck.
He'll go the motherfuckers you need.
You know what I mean?
Look at the people you got with you now.
Yeah, it's still hurt because you love the motherfuckers.
But here go to people that you have now.
Here go to the new support system that you got.
Still people we're going to figure out ain't the ones too.
For sure.
You know what I mean?
I ain't in it.
Like one thing I want.
It happens to me all the time.
My old friends.
I ain't putting no article in the daily press talking about I need new.
Look what I got, man.
Look what I have in my life.
Talk slow to them, Chuck.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't need to make no new friends.
I got a lot of beautiful people around me.
a great support system around me, man.
I got motherfuckers around me.
Don't tell me what I need to hear
or what I mean, what I want to hear.
They tell me what I need to hear.
You know what I mean?
The hardest thing for me to have this heart that I have,
everybody thinks it's like that on the court,
off the court is even bigger.
And the hardest thing for me that I had to learn,
this is a message to everybody.
And it ain't just kids.
You know what I mean?
You got to implement that word no in your vocabulary, man.
Got to be able to say no.
I thought that I could take care of the world, bro.
You know what I mean?
And I thought I'll, you know, people just tell me all the time, you can't do it.
And I used to think I was the exception to the rule, but you cannot do it, bro.
You know what I mean?
But now the pendulum swinging the way it is, trust me, this go around is going to be totally different.
Not only that, let me tell you something, Chuck.
Not only that, you know, a lot of things they say is cliche, but it's for a reason.
It's like everybody can't go.
Yeah.
You know, me, same thing, the entourage.
I walk in the royal palace in Dubai.
What's your name over there?
My name is Ali Qishanay.
Salam al-a-a-a-a-a-rah al-a-a-a-a-hahmah.
And so I walk in the royal palace.
And for me, I tell them all the time,
I'm not afraid to say I came from shit.
Right.
The projects, welfare.
You know, seeing my mom's begging the man behind the window
to please give her some food.
stands for fucking Thanksgiving.
I seen a borrow.
The reason why I feed so many thousands of families
and Thanksgiving is because I used to see my mother
have to borrow from my uncle.
And, you know, they would act funny.
You know, yo, I need some turkey for my kids.
So I give back.
But, you know, the crazy part about it,
damn, I forgot what the fuck.
Why was I, did I start that shit?
I'm getting the Alzheimer's, man.
You know, but what I'm saying is, huh?
Dang.
It's a flag on that.
and what was I told you should know what I'm talking about.
You guys are here to know what you're talking about.
Oh, saving everyone was the thing.
I try to save.
Yeah, I walk in the palace and I look to the right.
I can't believe I'm here.
Me, Fat Joe, cannot believe I'm in the Royal Palace.
They wash your hands when you walk in.
You take another step.
They give you a tea.
You take another one to fig.
It's out of control.
The guys I bring with me, one of them in particular from the bronze with me,
we all the way in the Middle East.
He's Dubai, his pants down to his ass down here, walking in the Royal Palace.
I looked at him, I said, man, I'll punch you in your face so fucking hard.
If you don't pick them fucking pants up.
Where my man at?
My man in here.
No, he ain't here.
No, my dog.
My dog.
Oh, we in the Royal Palace.
Yeah, I want him to hear this shit.
Show some fucking respect, me.
I ain't going to say your name.
No, I'm just saying.
Yeah.
I'm walking in the Royal Palace.
I look his pants under his ass.
I said, yo, my man.
You want to get punched in your fucking face?
You show some fucking respect.
The guy like you never be in the...
You know, that motherfucker still ordering chicken tenderloins and shit.
I don't even get it.
No, what I'm trying to say is everybody can't go.
You want to show everybody the world.
You want to help everybody.
But everybody can go.
Can't go with you to where you go.
Everybody ain't...
The truth is, everybody is everybody.
ain't for the promised land.
My man, I can go.
He just can't go like that no more.
He can go.
He can't go like that no more.
He's going wherever I'm going.
The airport, man.
Listen, that's not my point.
My point is show some respect.
You know, you're in some shit.
I can't believe I'm in this shit.
And I look at you, you're embarrassing me.
You know, you don't know what this meeting can lead to.
It can lead to money.
It can lead to businesses.
It can lead definitely relationships.
They're looking like, yo, look at Joe,
with this dusty dude.
Like, yo, we can't play that game.
I have some fucking respect.
But that's my point.
They're definitely a reflection to you.
They definitely got to represent your brand.
They got to care about your brand, man.
You know what I mean?
It's just, it's being selfish.
You know what I mean?
You're just thinking by yourself.
You know, it's a bigger picture.
You know what I mean?
Like I said, my man, you know, he got it together,
but he was like that.
But wherever I go, he's gone.
The series executive produced by shit.
Jack and Steph.
Yeah.
I mean, I know Shaq is your man.
I got a lot of Reebok money over there.
Yeah.
What's so with Steph?
Him and Steph doing some production shit or?
I mean, they, you know, they just let me go for mine.
You know, just like the vice president role.
You know what I mean?
Shack, ultimately, he made the final decision.
But damn, if he ain't going to holl that little bro.
Like, what you think?
And, you know what I mean?
I give him my ideas.
And he let me rock.
You know what I mean?
and then we collectively make all decisions.
Steph just, to me, it's just an honor, man.
Like, I just admire the dude, you know what I mean?
Squeaky clean, but, you know, behind the scenes, he just like us.
You know what I mean?
One of us, no doubt.
Yeah, and then he, that, man, just things that he can do, man,
he's a straight serial killer.
You know what I mean?
He must see TV.
I don't never, I got direct TV.
Well, what is it, the league pass?
League pass.
Whatever, I got that just for him.
You know what I mean?
I don't miss no Golden State game.
You know what I mean?
I got to see that goddamn light-skinned killer every night.
You know what I mean?
Man, that dude right there is different.
You know what I mean?
He's like, when you talk about the dude, like,
a motherfucker would be like, yo, he's him.
Like, he's him.
For real.
Well, so tell us about best in peace coach John Thompson, big John.
What did he mean?
What does he mean?
What did he do for you?
I was looking at Instagram yesterday.
I seen, you know, they put a quote in there, you know,
but they put it in there like I said it, you know what I mean?
But it's some shit that come from him.
You know what I mean?
And he said, you're always listening to guys and your home girls
and your family, everybody from your neighborhood
when you, you know, getting advice.
You know what I mean?
Because that's where you're at.
That's where, you know, the older heads, they give it to you,
you know, what they know, what they know,
and what they know, what they've been through in life.
But coach always used to tell me,
you're always listening to somebody
that's trying to tell you how to get from A to Z
and they ain't never been there.
You know what I mean?
And he was giving me that message
and it resonated with me so much,
you know, when I did this documentary
and when I did the book, you know,
of how I'm trying to help save lives by my experience.
You know what I mean?
And that's what I'm able to get.
to the youth and, and to my peers and people that, you know, that relate to me, I made it
from A to Z.
You know what I mean?
Obviously, I didn't, I came out, you know, I came out unscathed.
I've been through a lot, but I made it from A to Z.
When I go to my neighborhoods and I go to the Boys and Girls Club and I do stuff for
Thanksgiving and Christmas and stuff like that, when they're looking at me, they're looking
at somebody that grew up where they're from, you know what I mean?
Like, you can't sit, you don't have no excuses.
You looking right at the dude.
you can go over there and touch him.
You can dab him up.
That's the dude right there.
He come from where you come from where you come from.
You can't tell me you can't make it out of here because he did it.
You know what I mean?
And for me to be able to go from A to Z and to have an impact as far as my voice to help somebody,
you know what I mean, fulfill their dreams, man, to me, that's God, it's God, it's God gift.
We know you bad news.
They had another star in bad news, Mike Vick.
show. Did you see the birth of Mike Vic that you know what was going on with Mike
Vic, that you being from the same neighborhood, did you know he was going to be great?
He was, Mike, Mike was younger than me. You know what I mean? He came up after me.
You know what I mean? Like, he came up on me, basically. You know what I mean? So he watched
everything that I went through. You did. You know what I mean? And then I've seen the sky blue
drop top. Bentley's coming through that bad movie. Ain't nobody.
You know, nobody was...
Where he from?
Your AI, you had a lot of fucking cars, man.
Them shit was coming like, I thought this shit was free.
I didn't know.
I'm riding with you.
No.
I'm telling you the truth.
I thought this shit was free.
The man coming with three back-to-back drop type of shit.
This, he's coming up.
Three.
Yo, it's disgusting.
I remember Steph told me, Steph Marbury.
That's right.
I love, I love stuff.
That's my dog.
I love Steph to death.
Steph told me one time we was just talking,
just me and him was in the back of the bus.
And he was like, Chuck, man,
why do you have two phantoms
and the same phantom just in different colors?
Like, for what?
You know what I mean?
I swear to God.
Back then, I thought it was like,
now you guys looking at that one-pinned legs and one ass.
They were driving the shit to New York from Philly.
We don't know nothing about the mileage.
Nothing.
He pulls up the YO.
He likes to run out of gas and the motherfucker just
Man, just wild
Man, but when I came to league, I was 21.
Kenny Y-O, one of the joints ran out of gas.
Yeah, I was 21.
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You're 8. I don't want you to remember. I got too many stories with you that we'll chill on.
Yeah, I don't listen to your stories.
You listen to my stories?
Yeah.
We got one you won't admit.
See, that's why I say. That's why I tell you.
Mama, you know we got beat up in bad news.
Man, don't do that.
And you know Ross started that.
Oh, shit.
You know Ross started that.
Oh, so he starts.
Something happened.
Rob, you remember.
All right, you're admitting there something happened.
Yeah, you say I got you beat up.
He got hit him in the chest with a Heineken bottle.
Yeah, but they threw a box and he said, I got him beat up.
He got hit him.
Hold on.
Somebody threw a hinegan bottle and hit him in the chest.
Hit him in the chest?
Yeah.
I never said, I never said that didn't happen.
But he said, he said I got him beat up.
I didn't get him beat up.
Well, first of all, Rob snuffed the dude.
Ra, right?
Rob jumped in the crowd after the dude.
Right?
We are his birthday party.
You know, how this shit going on out there, right?
I don't understand this shit.
One minute we over there, we're like, yo, we were AI, bad news.
The next thing, they're throwing so many cops.
No, man, you was rap.
You was performing.
You was performing.
And it was a motherfucker in the stands that wanted the, he wanted the mic.
And Rob was telling the dude chill.
And then after he started telling him chill, then the dude was,
and fuck y'all in, da-da-da-da.
And then Rod just.
What I do know.
is we had to dump.
They threw
so many glasses of Jack Daniels.
You got hit by a...
That shit was going to steal him.
You got hit by a Hineken bottle.
See, whenever people talk about him
capping on the joint,
see, I know him personally.
So I know, I've never known him as a liar.
You know what I mean?
And what people got to understand.
You should take the flags back.
Listen, yeah.
Yeah.
Listen, but listen, I'm listening.
Only thing, like, the stories that, you know, where I wasn't there, you know what I mean, I can't confirm them.
You know what I can, I can speak on the person that's telling the story.
So I know he don't lie.
He never lied to me.
So when he's telling my stories, that's what I go off.
So he get him 99.9% right.
You know what I mean?
We got our ass beat, man.
That didn't happen.
I'm telling you the truth.
Everything, everything.
So if you, if he called hit by.
He got a bottle of ass with, man.
He got his ass with.
We play 70 games of spade.
For sure.
And we was in there for hours and we were so hyped to go to this.
I don't know what the fuck happened.
I just told you what happened.
Crazy.
Because when we pull up, everybody chasing us.
Now, he got the drop tops out there.
So it's like Ali Bumbaier.
Everybody, yo, yo, they, yeah.
You know, because.
You remember what you told to me in front of my Uncle Stevie house?
I want to know.
That day.
We was in.
Yeah, I'm going to throw no crag on him.
Look, I'm telling you.
Look, if you think about all the shit that he's done in his life
and the place he's been and the events he's been to,
like in all the shit that go on in a motherfucker like his life,
man, you cannot be totally accurate on everything.
The shit gets blurry.
And then we, well, I know I drunk a lot.
You know what I mean?
But I remember being in front of my uncle.
In front of Uncle Stevie house.
I had the blue Bentley is a drop top joint
And we were sitting out in front of the joint
And he was like, yo Chuck
I'm gonna have one of these one day
You know what I mean
And the first I don't know what was your first color
Was it the silver one sky blue sky blue joint
And I remember I don't know
I know I know it wasn't the video
Because you know usually in the videos
You know because I had when I was in Atlanta
I had everybody using my car's video
But I remember seeing
and you in it, it was something they was doing
and you was driving the joint
and, man, I was watching it on TV
and it fucked me up. You know what I mean? It felt so damn good
because I was like, yo, like I was
a part of that. Like, he told me
that he was going to get him one of them joints
and you had the joint.
Amen. You got the joint. You know, I got
the picture with him. He was like Fat Cho. This guy, you remember
he was big, Jay to Kiss. He was a little
charming. He was never like Fat Choo's a little plumpy.
I got the fucking picture, Jay.
That's a little bit bigger.
I got the fucking picture.
You could do pull-ups down with one finger and all that shit.
But back then, you was eating that fried chicken, boy.
That boy, boy, fucking some shit up.
I got that picture.
He gets mad.
I post that shit like every three months for no reason.
Be like, me and Jada.
Why are you posting that shit, Joe?
I love when you post.
Yeah, let me say you remember that night, though?
You took, no, I'm telling you took me.
We couldn't find a hotel.
You remember that?
When you told that story
You told it the right way
Yes, you did
I don't know about
I don't think I had the game
The next day though
Yes you did
Because we were back
We were smack
Listen
Listen, first of all
The owner hate me
What's his name?
Pat Croce
He thought I'm smoking
And drinking with you
And this and this and that
He told me one day
We went to some Adam Sandler
Window and he said
Fat Joe man
I'm so proud of you
Man how you
He said I used to tell him all the time
I didn't want you
Chuck. I thought you was a bad guy.
I see, yo, I was the nicest guy there.
What the fuck are you talking about?
So he comes up.
He got a game like Saturday, and he comes to Jimmy's Cafe with us.
He got the drop top.
And you said I was driving.
I was not drunk.
All right, you wasn't driving?
I never drove drunk.
I never did.
Okay, he never drove drunk, right?
Used to be drunk as a motherfucker.
Let me explain something.
Okay.
Like, we was tore down.
Bubba Chuck had the game the next day.
But, I mean, like, not regular.
Like, smack, like walking sideways and shit.
You said I threw up, and I ain't never threw up, I never threw up drinking.
Yeah.
Because I remember you telling the story.
I ain't never threw up drinking.
We pull up in my man's house in the bummiest area of the Bronx.
It's the only place to go.
Do you remember him?
Do you feel, you still rockwood?
Yes, we slept on clothes.
You know, when there's house is so bummy that they got clothes all on the fucking.
He's still cool with me?
Of course, he's family.
What you want me to say?
I'm talking to your true story.
Yeah.
We spend the night.
He got a game against the Knicks the next day.
I wake up, he's gone already.
So I wake up and say 10 in the morning, Chuck is gone already.
I don't know how he did it.
So I go to the Nick game.
Shooting around, Nick.
Man, if I'm keeping it a buck with you, we drank so much I had diarrhea the next day.
Like, I was fucked up.
And Jimmy's too?
Jimmy, I was two
That shit was crazy
And I go to the game
I'm fucked up
So I go to the game
And I'm purposely
I'm not courtside
I'm like 10th row
Like hiding
And I'm looking at shit
He dropped like 41
He was in the yollus
And the Joe Button C-stop
You gotta stop
You think about it though
Think about it
How old was I?
That recovery time was nothing
It was nothing
It was nothing
You remember the game
Me and you went to
When Larry Johnson
Hit the um
three-point shot.
You remember that shit.
Me and AI was in there.
We was just chilling
and y'all had just got out the playoffs.
It's just...
It sounds crazy.
Me and you, we went to the game.
He was like, yo, Joe, you got tickets to the game.
I said, let's go.
He said, let's go.
And they had just got eliminated
the round before.
And that's when you're man,
Larry Johnson hit the shot.
What niggas went crazy.
I'm sitting next day.
I've been looking to see
if anybody got a,
Pitching that day.
You know how legendary that day is?
When Larry Johnson hit the three-point shot.
It was the crowd.
It was the way the crowd was right.
Oh, shit.
I'm looking for me and AI and all the pictures, all the videos, all the things.
I can't see it.
You know, because now they try to say I'm cap.
You know, now I've got to bring the receipts out.
You got all your legendary moment.
We got the best commercial ever done.
Hell, you're talking about it.
In the history.
In the history.
In the history.
Bring the flags back
Crazy is
They keep wanting to go over
I think
It should just be original
And do something else
You gotta leave that alone
You gotta figure something else out
Like they try to like
When I do commercials and shit like that
They try to get me to
Do the step over
Over again
And I try to do it
I don't know how to do
Because I didn't know what I was doing
In the moment
It shit just happened
You know what I mean
But that
That commercial right there
I knew who I wanted
when they talked to me and came to me
and was like, yo, we're going to do it like this.
I said, oh, yeah.
I knew who I'm going to get.
That shit's just so legendary.
She was on the mixtapes.
They was playing it in the club.
They was playing it in the club.
It was crazy.
Crazy.
That's a historical moment in hip-hop.
Top five, they're going to live.
You know, he hates that.
I thought I had beef with the guy.
Who, AI hates that?
He don't like that.
I just love.
I just love.
You don't have, like, fake beef with all.
Man, I tell you, I tell you.
I ice grilled him for the rest of his life.
You know, I'll tell you a story about dude.
He's crazy, man.
I tell you a story about dude the next year.
I mean, he put me through hell, though.
He was a pest.
You know what I mean?
And Shaq and Colby was, they was fucking with him because I was his idol.
So they was like, before the joint started, they was like, yo, you're going to let him go out there and have his way.
You know what I mean?
Because you looked up to him and this, that, and the third.
And that's why we were getting added the way we were.
And I hated him.
And I remember he had got.
after him going to war with me like that
he was getting he was a free agent he was getting offers
crazy and um he went to
Washington and they gave him like five million a year
something like that and you know it was like right where we left off
you know we was going at it again in the game going at it
somebody was shooting a free throw and um
we was in the back court and uh I was talking shit to him
talking shit to me we were ready to fight and all that
and I was like look motherfucker I said you got that look
last $5 million a year, you know what I mean, because of me.
And the motherfuckers did some shit I would have did.
He looked at me and said, thank you.
Yeah.
And both of us just started laughing, and we've been like this ever since, man.
That's my motherfucker.
A lot of times people, you go to war where you build a certain respect.
You respect them.
Because you go to war with certain chumps that you don't respect.
You be like, yo, these guys are a sucker.
But when you find a formidable adversary, you turn around, you come up.
you come up out of it,
you find a way to be men and squash it.
Sure.
You got a different level of respect for them
and they got a different level of respect for you.
Yeah, sure.
That's cool.
Who's the biggest, you would say him,
who's the biggest wars?
Like, what was it like, man,
going to play against Kobe Ryan?
You started to ask the question
and that was going to be my answer.
It was going to be him.
Kobe?
Biggest wars, yeah.
And then you asked me, what was it like?
You know what I mean?
So, you know, we can,
kill two birds with one stone.
I mean, bro,
wars.
You know what I mean?
Because I used to feel like
with me,
DeMarne Johnson was the same way
because, you know,
because how tall he was.
You know what I mean?
He was 16.
He gave me problems
because he could back up off of me
and just contest the junk.
DJ?
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
He could just back up off of me.
Linky.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
And he could get a hand up.
You know what I mean?
Anybody else.
Take Sean Prince's ass.
Yeah.
But Kobe, but Kobe too.
Kobe 6-6.
and Kobe could move.
Like he could lateral.
He could move later.
He was a defense.
He was a dog.
You know what I mean?
So me and him had wars.
But like if you're not my size, you know what I mean, especially like Marcus Banks,
you're a hoop head.
So you know, remember Marcus Banks.
Stocky, six, two.
You know what I mean?
He used to give me a problem because he could move laterally.
Then if I get by him, you know, he had to strength.
He was like, you know, Steph gave me problems.
You know what I mean?
You know, Cole had a.
lot of that into and hit the strength and then he was like a defensive-minded dude i mean he gave
me problems but nobody really could you know nobody really could you know if if if if if i had a bad
night you know nine times out of ten it was it was me you know what i mean but i used to go
through some wars with colby and it was so different to me it won't fail and to show you what type
of dog he was because he would guard me but i ain't have to guard him yeah yeah
You know what I mean?
I want to throw this name out to you
because me being your brother and close to you
and feeling it might be biased on this
because I felt like he was unfair to you.
But it might have been some things you learned from him
from the harsh realities and punishments
and the way it felt like he looked at you
from the inside out.
But you was actually in the league
and after the deal with
rest in peace,
Commissioner Davis.
My man.
You know what I mean?
My man.
Like, me and that...
It's me.
I had beef with him for it.
I'm just like, why is he just hating?
Oh, no.
We had problems,
but he, you know what I mean?
Unlike Commissioner Silver,
you know what I mean,
he got to know me,
you know,
in the aftermath of playing in the league.
And he had a better understanding
because David Stern, me and him became close later on in my career
after taking time to try to understand who I really was.
You know what I mean?
A lot of times you get thrown off, you know what I mean,
by the look and the perception, you know what I mean,
the braids, the cornrows, the baggy, you know what I mean,
the baggy clothes and all that.
And you don't get a chance to, it's just the person.
You don't know, you don't know what I mean?
I always use this analogy
you look at John Gotti
you know what I mean
he got the dappadone
he got the soups on
you know what I mean
he's smooth
but in the street
John Gotti get busy
dangerous man
you know what I mean
and it's that perception
you look at
what's the movie
Reservoir dogs
they robbed that jewelry store
what they have on suits
you know what I mean
most times
a woman walking down the street
she won't grab her purse
if she see a clean cut guy
walking down the street
with a suit on
but a dude dressing like us
You know what I mean?
You're going to grab that joint.
You know what I mean?
And it was like David Stern, after he took the time to get to know me,
then we became close.
You know what I mean?
And, you know, May he rest in peace, man.
He was a, I frowned out because I didn't like him.
But I, you know, I got to know him too, man.
You know what I mean?
It was just a perception.
You know, the man came to the rocker.
He threw the T.S. chain on.
David Stern came to the Rucker through the T.S.
chain on.
He came to see the T.
He did that's great feet.
He was real safe
He was real safe with that shit
But let me tell you some
This Adam Silver man
I love this commissioner man
Me too
Special guy man
When it all went down
With George Floyd and all that
Yeah
You know he always with the people
He always understand
He always with the culture
And I'm no groupie
But every time I see him
I take the time out to be like
Yo commission what's up
Because I really feel him as a person
And how he tries to do right
by everybody.
He's the players commission.
You speak for you?
He's cool.
Of course.
Yeah.
Come on.
He was there.
He was at the joint last night.
He knows the words that lean back.
Hey, yo.
No, listen, listen.
When I did that bullshit-ass rap album,
when I did that shit,
and you know I was doing that.
But I was doing that because Rob wanted me to do it.
I ain't never, man, I was,
I'm so embarrassed when I hear that shit now,
but we don't spend no time on that.
But the most embarrassing shit was when I did the album,
I had to come here to meet with him.
David Stern.
Yes.
And Theo Rattle of came with me.
He was the players representative.
So he was on my team.
He had to, you know, I had to, we rode in limo all the way there.
First thing he started, he was talking shit to me about, because I had a Cleveland,
Indians jersey.
I remember we was wearing the jersey and shit back then.
I had the Indians hat on.
He was like, why you got on Major League baseball stuff?
You know, you're in the NBA?
I'm like, what?
You know what I mean?
Like, you know what I'm saying?
And then out of nowhere, man, he pulled out a piece of paper.
Sitting there, look, I'm like, how fuck is he doing?
Bro, the man started reading the lyrics.
Man, I, yo, I wanted to crawl up under the table.
You know what I mean?
I was so embarrassed, man.
I mean, the curse, look, the curse words, everything.
You know, I was at the studio sessions, man.
Yo, man.
You know, that shit was so embarrassing.
You know what I mean, but...
Yeah.
You know, listen, y'all, Chuck, let me tell you something, boy.
We can use the money, but I'm going to keep coming back to this,
but we give it to a charity.
But I think they owe you reparations.
I think right now everything AI ever stood for,
if we tell somebody...
We tell somebody every single point guard in the NBA somehow
always wanted to be, I don't know.
or you're their idol or they want to wear number three
or you know
now they got cameras filming their clothes
when they're mom you don't like that shit mom
because you know you went through a lot
and now they're dressing like him
and we celebrate
no but I took the ass whooping for it
like I yeah you did the underground but they
the best part about it
the underground round the best part about it
they give me my flowers for it
you know what I mean that's the that's the
Yeah, but that's what I get that out.
You had to crawl for them to walk and I want some money for charity.
But they respect it.
They respected.
That's why I love them.
That's why I'm watching the game before the game come on.
I'm watching the red carpet joint.
I'm dead serious.
Like, and it's a beautiful feeling, man.
Let me tell you something.
Every time I watch, maybe I'm biased because of you, but every time, and I love
him, I always big up like Shah, whoever could dress.
You know, I'm into fashion.
So I love what they doing, but every time I'm not going to lie to you,
they walk in them tunnels, I'd be like, yo, they owe A-I money.
They find you every game.
They show love for it.
They give me my flowers for it.
That's the only thing that I, that matter to me.
That's, that was worth getting my ass whoop for it.
It was worth it to see them do that, do their thing, to see them express themselves like that.
When you look at the game, everybody don't play the same.
What the hell you're going to dress the same for?
You know what I mean?
I was 21 years old, though.
Where the fuck am I going after the game?
why I'm going to need a suit on.
I'm going to the club.
I'm going to Friday.
You're going to Friday.
You know what I'm saying?
Bucking the Corona.
And I ain't never, like I said before,
I ain't never wore no motherfucking suit.
Do you got that in the documentary?
You got that in the documentary Fridays?
Yeah, for sure.
After every single game.
Ladies and gentlemen.
It was legendary.
I think.
You had a DJ.
Everybody didn't have been to TGIFs before.
Yo, this guy had Fridays on two.
At the home game in Philly,
if you never went.
I call it his Friday.
It was so lit, they booked me there.
I said, they booked you on Fridays?
I got both.
And one of his Fridays after the game.
Shit was off the, shit was like.
I had to reserve tables and everything.
I was there every Friday.
What's up with the book, though?
It did good.
I mean, obviously, that's seller.
You know what I mean?
It would take less than a week.
It's just my stories.
It's kind of, it's raising basically like me, my mom,
my sister, my little sister,
it's basically our story.
Like, you know, before it was any type of support system
with all of my friends, the good ones and the bad ones,
it was us as a family.
It was us, like literally we all we got type shit.
You know what I mean?
It was my mom.
My mom had me.
When she was 15, she had me.
Now, like I told last night, she fucked the bad.
bag up because if she would have had me 10 years later this shit they're getting paid right now
we were to test some of that and uh no me and my mom we grew up together like I used to go to her
basketball games when I was a little you know little dude um you know we was we were real family
oriented you know what I mean we were always tight as a unit and it just it just show everything
man it give you everything it give you um you think
you know, but you don't know.
You know what I mean?
And I love, like, having that platform to be able,
not to so much explain yourself or nothing,
man, just to be able to tell your story,
regardless how they accept it or not,
you know, they don't have to accept it
the way you want them to or anything like that.
I always realized in my life and coming up
that, Chuck, it's going to be millions of motherfuckers
that love you and it's going to be a million motherfuckers
that hate you.
You know what I mean?
You concentrate on the ones that like, you know what I mean?
You're trying to sit around and explain yourself, you know what I mean, all the time
and explain every move you make and this, then, and the third.
I was saying last night, like, everybody always talking about, man, if I was AI, I would do this.
Bro, you're not.
You know what I mean?
Do something else.
Yeah, I mean, if you're waiting on being AI, then you're in trouble.
You're in trouble.
You know what I mean?
You need to concentrate on what you would do.
being yourself, you know what I mean?
So the book wasn't about, it's like a gift, man.
It's like, I'm going to show you, you know what I mean?
And I don't want people to think that my story is no different from crack growing up
up where he grew up at, from Jason growing up where he grew up at.
All that shit was hard.
You know what I mean?
We ain't going to put levels on what was hard.
It was hard.
You know what I mean?
And it's resiliency.
It's like, okay, it's hard.
And my percentage is low of me being able to do what I ultimately want to do.
And that's just to get my family out of here.
You know what I mean?
And that's the goal.
You know what I mean?
You don't sit around and try to compare how hard it was.
I want the most accolades because, you know what I mean?
It was rougher in Newport News in Hampton than it was in the Bronx.
You know what I mean?
Like that ain't what it is.
It's like all of us to be champion.
for just the goal
even if we made it from somewhere
that we were silver spoon mouth
motherfuckers. You know what I mean?
The goal is still hard. You still got to put it in
the work to do it.
They gave us a sign. I don't know who's
controlling your time.
But hold up.
He only got five minutes.
Mama come over here. I want you to sit on the couch.
Make this shit legendary.
You know what I'm saying?
Sit down,
You know, we love you.
How proud are you to be Bubba Chuck's moms
and this journey in life, you know,
with Bubba Chuck and all the success
and how you see him come around as a man?
It's important because you're the first mother,
athlete's mother that we all fell in love with.
We love you braiding his hair in the middle of the court.
I got to stop you with that.
That's not me.
That's not.
I braided his hair.
That's not.
Hey, he's supposed to know that.
I braided his hair.
for all the, when he first wanted his hair braided.
Now, I did braid his hair, but his hair was coming to loose in the back.
And he was worried about his, you know, he liked to be fly.
He was worried about his hair coming to loose.
So, you know, my sister called me, and she was like,
Ian, he keep on telling me and looking at me, and I don't know how to breed here.
And I was like, but all you got to do is just braid his hair.
You braiding just the back of it.
And so when I got there, I saw my son.
That cap is rubbing off on it.
If it is cap, it's rubbing off.
Because Mommy got...
Yeah, because Mommy got...
Yeah, because Mommy got...
Oh, Flack.
Mommy got the story, wrong.
It is what it is.
I got to be authentic.
You taught me to be that way.
You know what I mean?
It didn't go down.
It didn't go down.
And then he over there calling him,
now I'm Bubba Chuck
while he's talking to Mommy.
Now I go to...
At first I was AI.
Now I turn into Bubba Chuck
when he's talking to Mommy.
But it didn't...
It ain't happened like that.
Well, you, you, you, I got my version.
You got your version, yeah, okay.
You know, you know, your son, AI, you know, my mom's ain't here, man, so we want to hear it.
You know, how proud are you of your son, man, and all his accomplishments and how he inspired generations of people.
First of all, I was proud of him from the first day I saw him, you know, because back then,
Yeah. Back then, back then when you have a baby, and I was so young, like he said. So, you know, I had to have him Cisirian burb. And I was sleep. So when I woke up in recovery, and they brought me to him, brought him to me. And I was like, he's so light. And you know what I'm saying? But when he opened his eyes and he looked at me and I saw my eyes looking back at me, I said, oh, yeah, that's my baby. You know, and I checked everything on him. I checked everything on him. But,
What really blew my mind is, first of all, I got kicked off the basketball team because I got pregnant with him.
But what blew my mind was his hands and his arms.
His arms was past his kneecap.
When I laid him out like that, they went way past his kneecap.
And I was like, I got a baller.
And I was happy.
I was happy.
And so I told my family, I told my whole family, I was like, you know, I got a baller.
So everybody was like looking at me like I was simple or whatever.
But the thing is, from that point on, he came in my life, and he was the perfect child.
He was not hard-headed.
He would listen to everything I said, and he loved the daylights out of me.
And at that point, I needed love because of the fact that my mom had died at 29 years old, male practice.
But anyways, the Iverson said, Senator to Virginia, and that's the best thing they could have done for me.
And when I had him, when I was carrying him, I was pregnant playing ball in Africa, Connecticut.
And I went from there to Bethelho High School playing ball.
And he had a favorite cheer.
And his cheer...
Don't do that, Ma.
Okay.
We got to hear it.
Mama, Mama, don't listen to him.
Yeah, tell us the chair.
Yeah, it was a favorite cheer.
And it used to be...
No, no, it used to be, everybody would be on the court, and we had half time.
And then everybody had seen...
Brewing's go
and everybody will shit up
and he'll say
shake that thing
so that's my story
but far as proud
I want to tell you something
that he said to me this year
I said
Bubba I said
you know I am so proud of you
I said you just make me so
proud I'm proud of you
I just wanted to express that to him
so he'll know it from my
heart
yeah
And he said, I'm not finished.
He said, I'm not finished making you prop.
And that's what he's been doing.
Would that be it said?
This ain't that?
That ain't there.
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