Joe and Jada - Amanda Serrano on Puerto Rico’s FIRST undisputed champ, Katie Taylor fights & future of women’s boxing

Episode Date: April 2, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by Amanda Serrano, the first undisputed champion from Puerto Rico and the highest-paid female boxer in history. Serrano breaks down what it means to be acknowledged alongside Tito Trinidad, Miguel Cotto, and the other Puerto Rican legends, tells Joe and Jada about headlining Madison Square Garden not once but twice, discusses the politics of the judges' scorecards in her Katie Taylor fights, and chops it up about why she crossed over to MMA when her boxing contracts were paying peanuts. She discusses being the first female boxer to earn a million dollars for a fight and how that moment forced Katie Taylor's team to match the number, talks about her mission to grow women's boxing through Jake Paul’s Most Valuable Promotions and their upcoming ESPN deal. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX! All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet 05:00 Amanda on being acknowledged alongside Puerto Rico's boxing legends 08:30 Headlining Madison Square Garden & the Katie Taylor fights 11:00 Joe asks if women boxers could take most men 17:00 Amanda's MMA career 31:00 Boxing fans want to see fighters FIGHT 38:00 What new fans should know about women's boxing 47:00 Journey from boxing for peanuts to first $1 million pay daySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Every week, I'm sitting down with exceptional people who have broken barriers, even when the odds were stacked against them. Like chef Victor Villa of Villas tacos. You know the taquero from the Bad Bunny halftime show? It was great. It was a big moment. It was special. And I felt like I was really representing my family, you know, my brand, my city. I was representing all taqueros, not only of like,

you know, the U.S., but of Mexico, and beyond, all the taqueros of the world. Listen to Against All Odds on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. I wasn't taught boxing. I was taught to be a fighter. I am a fighter first. And then, yes, I can box if I want to, but I don't want to. Plus, these girls don't hit that hard. So maybe if they hit hard, I will all be a little, like, keep my hand up.

But, but no. Yeah, yeah, what up, y'all, this Joe Crack to Dawn. You know who it is, your boy Jada. You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary, every show iconic. And we ain't going to stop. Talk slow for them. We ain't going to stop destroying y'all.

At the rapidest pace you ever seen in this space. No, I ain't ever seen no shit like that. Get ahead. Before ever in Houston. Now you're talking my shit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, guess. When you think of today's guests, you think of the real deal.

Mm. You think of dominant female. You hear me? You think a dominant female. Puerto Rican. South Park. Mm. You think of 31 KOs.

Mm. You think of multiple. unified champions. You think a multi-division championships five-time W-B-A-WB-A-N Fighter of the Year. That can't be easy.

Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for a guest. I like that. Amanda, the real deal, Saran. Woo! Thank you. That sounds amazing. You could keep going and going and going.

Coming out of your mouth, your voice. I loved it. My intro just made for you to say that. That's why I know I did a good job. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Thank you for having me. It's truly an honor to be here with Big Bro, Joe and Jada.

Watch your show. Love it to death, always cheering you on. It's super part of both of you guys. You feel. Thank you. Thank you. But it's like you, you like an extended. cousin on the show.

We talk about you. I know. You probably been mentioned in at least 25, 30 of our show. I know. Sometimes I see it. I'm like,

whoa, Joe still remembers me. Come on. It ain't too many like you. You know, when we talk about Puerto Rico, we talk about so many championship boxes. And then you being a female because I don't care

in whatever perspective, whatever game, whatever job, whatever everything, it's always harder for a female, no matter what. I don't care what people say. Now, women are becoming bosses and everything, but still, but when I see them talk about the legendary boxes now, they give it it up to you Puerto Rico. The homeland is saying, no, you know,

they got a face of Trinidad, you refrain, all the legends of all, and you're on there. Yeah. Like, how does that feel to be acknowledged like that? So surreal. You know, being next to those big names coming from our small island, but we have so many great champions, big champions. It's truly an honor.

And, man, I wanted to give back to Puerto Rico, something that we never had, and that was becoming an unscrupier champion. And I did that. I became the first undisputed champion. for Puerto Rico because we needed something. We needed to have something over everybody else. And I'm glad I gave that to them to this day.

When I go back to that, well, I live in the island. But when I'm there, people are like, man, you giving us excitement the way Tito used to give us excitement. And I'm like, for real, when I fall on the big stage, they tell me that the streets are empty. When my fight is on, the streets are empty. And that's something. I get goosebumps just thinking about it.

I get emotional because, like, wow, a little girl from Bushwick, I grew up in Bushwick, but born in Puerto Rico, but I stood true to my roots, my Puerto Rican roots, and they love me, and I'm so glad that I'm able to give them something back. Fine. How did it feel to be the first female, the headliner fight at Madison Square Garden? Man, that was something I never thought would happen.

And it wasn't in the picture. It wasn't something that us girls going up in the sport or starting the sport, we had something to, we see men headlining. We saw it like me as a Puerto Rican, I saw aito, Miguel Codo. But it never was a female doing that. So I never pictured that that would happen for a female. But to do that, it was something amazing. It was an amazing night.

to sell it out. Not once, but twice. Shut out. Shut out the girl you fought. Because she ain't no joke, Eva. No, Katie Taylor, she's a gold medalist, Olympic medalist. She's pound for power.

It's me, her and Clarissa were all palmful power with three on the list. Always, always. Listen, people don't know. I only had nine amateur fights. I only, I started 2007. I wasn't golden gloves in 2008. That was my last fight as an amateur.

I never left New York. So to be in there with an amazing, talented woman, she had over 200 wins as an amateur. She started when she was five. I started when I was 18. So to be in the talks with someone like that, to be competitive with someone like that, you know, some people say that I won.

I believe I won at least two out of the three fights. I think you won. But listen, just to even be competitive with her and just to have my name next to her, It's truly an honor. And she was a great, a great champion in and out the ring. It would be hard for me to be like a professional boxer is when I know I won. And imagine you did the versus and they said, and the winner is, and you know you said,

you did, you pussy your neighbors, you did all that shit. And they give it to somebody else. This, you know, boxes, like a man that definitely defamation. first fight, one billion percent, it was her fight. The second one, I think it was a lot clear. The sport of boxing, right? We've seen too many times what we thought somebody won, and then they give it to somebody else.

That's got to be like a... No, that hurts. There's politics and everything. We know that. We know, I've noticed that too. Oh, yeah. Because you train so hard and to have it, obviously that whole thing is don't leave it to the judges.

Yes, you can't leave it to the judges, because no matter where you're going to. going, you have three judges. You put it on the line. You're going out there. You're fighting, getting punched. And it's up to three judges that determine if you win or lose. And depending on their opinion, sometimes they like boxer.

Sometimes they're like, depending on what they like, they're going to go towards that person. I used to see this one referee. You definitely know who he is. This black dude back in the day, every time he left, I knew some bullshit is going on. Every fucking time. He came up in that ring. And the referee, I'd be like, oh, shit, we got this dude. He was in on the fucking, he was betting hard rock bets a long time ago, bro.

I'm fucking telling you, before this shit invented, he was every time he was in the ring, I knew some bullshit. He betted before it was invented. Bro, every fucking time I watch this guy in the ring, I see some bullshit about to happen. He even jerked somebody, somebody stood on the floor too long. He took too long to count. This guy was in all bullshit. Like, every fight. Like, I'd be like, yo, this guy right here, you know,

I mean, it's human, it's whatever. But the point is, the thing about you, right, could you clear a myth that I always wondered about? Could a woman beat a man up? Listen. Somebody fuck with you right now, dude on the corner, your mamita. Come here being very disrespecting. Could you beat the shit out of him?

If it's one of those guys, yes. Yeah, if it's not a train. Yeah, not a train. Like, oh, I think I can't have myself. Like one-on-one, you might put the pain on one of these guys and Bushwick in the corner. Definitely going to be competitive. Because sometimes I see the girls right.

I'd be like, yo, by the way, they might fuck you up. Like in real life. Definitely. I love saying, like, I'm walking down the street. And I'm like, only if these guys, I look at these guys, I don't know, I just won't punch. I can just. I was trying to, listen, let me tell you something.

I'm at the versus. watching him and the dipset. And I'm there with Balanga Zandayas. I'm with three championship boxes and some dudes try to front and take their chair. And I'm like, I'm actually, they probably thought fat Joe was there. You was there, right, Fee?

They probably thought Joe Crack was on bullshit. I was like trying to protect them. Literally that they know if these guys, pound them out. And they, the boxes happen to be the nicest guys in the world. Like, no, excuse me, these are tickets, this, this, that big. Dude, nah, son, y'all got to give up these seats. Right or wrong.

I say, yo, you know what, man. Suppose they are your seats, man. Let's say they are. We keeping them shits anyway. Fuck, you want to do, man. Y, y'all talk the shit. Yo, they got the fuck up out of that. But I did them a favor.

You saved them? Yo, these guys were three. champions, bro. If they would have let them fist fly, them dudes just underneath the seats. I don't think they can do that, though. You can't just beat up. You can't just beat up.

My dice and fuck everybody. They can't touch them. Listen, I don't know about that. What's the rules with that? I never, I never had a street fight. I've only four in the ring. See, that's the grace of God. Because the people know if you can't.

I've been lucky in blood. Hopefully I don't have to. Hopefully I don't have to. No, she can't do it. Nah, come. Hopefully I don't have to. I mean, they say, I mean, if they know who. What?

If they know who I am, then they obviously want to press charges. They're trying to get some money. But I'm a nice girl. Your man, Mike Tyson, definitely picked a lot of people up. 50 million dollars in lawsuits. I swear to God. Like, every time I turned around, I would like, Mike Tyson beat somebody up in Brooklyn, the guy won $2 million.

Mike Tyson beat somebody. Like, when we was growing up. What about that guy beat up on the airplane? Yeah. He got away with that one because the guy was saying. The N word with the R and all that. Like, you know, I got on a plane with the pilot. For now, he was like, oh, my God, you're my second celebrity.

You know, I was the pilot when Mike Tyson beat up the guy. He said the guy deserved it. Yeah, I was just going to say that. Everybody knew. Oh, he's fucking with Mike too much. And, you know, that's something that happens with anybody who's in entertainment or famous. The people think they could talk to you, like they, they've been. feel like I bought your CD.

I can tell you whatever the fuck I want to tell you. Listen, I'm not big as you guys, but I'm getting that too. And I'm like, okay, thank God I'm always with Jordan. And he's my manager, my brother. So he's always, and he's pretty big. So he's always, hold on. Hold on. Happy birthday, happy birthday.

Happy birthday. Happy birthday to join. Hold on. Speaking of all of that stuff, you just say, we got to rewind that. You know what kind of deal she got? She got a lifetime deal. Then she becomes the chair. Then she runs the front office at this when she retired.

That's the incredible yala. You have to think about after you retire. Most likely, this is my last year. I'm going for the knockout go. Christy Martin has 32 knockouts. So she's had it over 20 years. So I'm 31. I'm like, one more to tie you to break it.

So I'm like, it'll be silly of me just to hang it up before I do it. So it's right there. And once I'm already going to hard rock bets. Yeah, yep. I know you're going to do it. It's a damn out of bio to score 83. But definitely. And so you have to start thinking about when I retire.

And that's 100%. I'm all about my women, women empowerment. And I want to see these women grow. I want to see the sport of boxing grow. Continue to grow. We're doing amazing things. We just announced that we signed with BSPN. That was something.

That's a big deal for us. To have women showcased on such a great network. The whole world can see that so many talented champions out there. And I'm excited. I'm excited to see the sport grow. It's great that you've shining the light on it and taking it to another level. Like, we just came back from NASCAR.

I guess that's where you get the racing shirt from and all that. You caught the box. It looks good. It looks good. I love it. Stay from NASCAR. Not that you want to look like NASCAR. They didn't have this that nats.

They didn't got the Supreme shit at that. You know, but I'm saying, we learned about an African-American driver in like the 60s. Back in the day, yeah.

But we never knew. We tried to smaller out history. Yeah. That was crazy. His family came up. The son and his grandson. You know, from Virginia. So it was like,

it was like, you know, sometimes so this. Who are great champions that came before you but didn't get the spotlight in women's boxing? Well, I mean, you know, everyone knows Layla Ali, Christy Martin. I mean, they had their spotlight at the time, but it still wasn't as big as it's gotten now.

But look, my sister, Cindy Serrano, not too many people know. She's the one who inspired me to get into the sport. She was a champion as well. She just retired. She became a Hall of Famer for New York and she's been working on the big one, which she definitely would be going on it.

But at the time, she wasn't getting the pay of recognition. I'm super blessed that now that I got lots of money that I can take care of her and give everything back to her. Like, well, not everything, but get back to her because she opened the doors for me. But there's a lot of champions that there's a couple of Puerto Rican champions, these girls, like Melissa Hernandez, they were great champions, great fighters, but they didn't get that spotlight. And I'm glad that now it's changing a little bit,

part of a great company MVP, that's helping the women grow. Beautiful. With that being said, how do you feel about MMA and the money and the media shine and spotlight that they put on that? Well, just in case you didn't know, I am on the feet in MMA. Make sure, like, noise for that. Well, I did put, I did say dominant. I'm two all in one in MMA, two by submission, not by knockout.

So that's something I'm proud of. Submission is incredible. Yes, yes, I love it. But I actually went to MMA because at the time my boxing contract, I was already a five or six division world champion. And my boxing contract was, excuse my language, but it was. It was shit. We know about shitty contracts.

It was peanut. And I saw. You know, I spoke to the lady that I have a. that owns the liberty. It's the Asian lady. Oh, Joe's size's wife. Yeah. Her husband owns the net.

And she owned a liby. I know. I was fighting for the girls for the higher pay and all. She's down with it. But, you know, they... Everybody got to be down with it. Yeah, no.

Yeah. So she was telling me, and I was just like, yo, there's no way the sport could be so big and these girls got a struggle to get paid. Like, all that shit is unfit.

No, it is. And then I saw how MMA was treating the women with more respect, more spot, like more money. And that's why I decided to go to MMA. And actually my MMA contract was bigger than my boxing contract. So I'm like, it just didn't make sense. And it was my pro debut. I was making more money than having a championship fight in boxing.

So it was silly for me. But then I guess boxing got a little jealous and they wanted me back. So then they stay up the money. So that's what you need to do. You need to, yeah, bargain, negotiate yourself. If you don't love me, I'm going to go somewhere else. to get these bidding wars going on out here, man. You know what I mean?

You got to respect the value. You know what's crazy is sometimes the reverse happens, right? So I remember one time I told these guys, yo, you know, I don't want to be on this record label no more. It was like, all right, fine. Signed right here, not a problem. I was like, damn. I thought they gave a fuck.

They were like, you can leave now, Joe, not a problem. Like, see you later. I was like, oh. Let the door not hit you. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. But I bet they regret it. Oh, big time. Every time I see them, they tell me that shit.

It's been 30 years. They'd be like, yo, Joe, we should have never let you go. Should have been robbing you forever, huh? Ain't that some bullshit? Yeah, when it falls money everywhere, you're getting robbed everywhere. So it's unfortunate. never stopped getting robbed. I know.

So, you know, I've got my heartbroken. One thing about money to turn honest people bad. Like, you know what I'm saying? When you give someone too much control of your money and so much trust, and me, believe it or not, I got fucked so many times in my life paused

that I still trust. Yeah. You know, it's just in my nature to trust. I just let you, what they said, you give you enough rope, you hang yourself, and then I'm just like, all right, that's it. Once I know, you're done for life. And let me tell you something, man,

I noticed about, all right, you're going to keep focus, but one thing is this, guys, when you was a member of a team, and you're no longer a member of the team. You did something, and I'm not talking about Fat Joe and Terror Squad. I'm talking about anybody. Because I see guys who used to be down with somebody.

Now their new profession is going around YouTube doing these interviews talking about who they used to be or who they was. The niggas is 55, 60 years old, talking about how they held it down to junior high. Who? No, no. When you're not down, that's how you start the shit. That's how you start the shit. Then I get the beef with everybody in the dirt.

sectioned it up. I'm not talking about me. I'm just saying, listen, guys, there's a rule to the streets. It's always been a rule. If you're not down no more, we will never mention you again.

When we're sitting in the car, we don't even call you by your name. If you ever come up, it calls scrams or fams or you don't, you are nameless forever. And it doesn't have nothing. I'm not talking about me. I watch the interview on YouTube.

this morning where the guy was like, yo, they don't mention me. How about you're not down? And you're telling stories about 40 years ago when you was down. You're not even like, what are you? Did you have, do you get that? Like, you're from Bushwick, you're in Puerto Rico.

You definitely must have been on Banchin Cher Roe or something. Like they had to, like you had to get somebody was cool with you before, ain't cool with you. You and got that? I mean, that never ends, but lucky I've been around, My family have been blessed.

So they've always kept me in check. I'm not a bocincenra. I don't go out there and gosh. That's not what I do. Obviously, you see me on social media. You see me in my press conferences. I'm not the person. I'm not the loud person.

I do everything I have to do. I handle my business in the ring or in the cage. And I go out there and I be the best version of myself, the best me. So I do my talking with my hands in the ring. Yeah. You know, hip hop is different, though, bro. Like, hip hop is fucking crazy. Like, I watched these people,

you ain't hang out with the person in 30 years or 20 years. Like, yo, this shit is insanity to me. I don't know. I don't know. I don't, I don't understand. Now, everybody was my same last name. We're related with cousins. Yeah.

It's like, it's not even, if you're a celebrity, it's always, it's going to happen. People are going to talk stuff. If you're doing good, if you're doing bad. And they always. Yeah, but what I can't see. Damn if you do, damn if you, though. What I keep seeing these same guys say is why they don't mention me. They'll tell you.

They won't see me. Every dude, you want one? You don't want one. Don't do that. Don't do that. No, I'm interesting. Listen, don't do that. You don't want one.

Listen, what they shot? I want to hear one. I want to hear one. No. You watch one. Because these guys, they love that shit. They love that shit. You can't give it to them.

No, I'm just sitting there looking at some other guy who allegedly was there. with some other guys. And he's like, yo, they don't mention me. When I see them tell the story, how about, listen,

breaking news, headline. You're not down anymore, my name. But if you mentioned the name. I even see that with the rats in the mafia. Like, the rats.

Yeah. Once the gangstow, no, Papa, you told. Like, you got to go over there. There's another section.

Go that way. No, no, it's another section in jail. You can't be in the, in the, with, the real guys.

I'm going to fuck. How many niggas you killed? You told. You're out of the same. Yeah. You can't be here. You know? And so that's another thing, right?

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And our podcast Game Recognized Game Has never been done before Two active players Giving you a real look at our lives And what we actually think On and off the court Nothing's off limits

We talk trade requests What's the vibe of that When it's like your star player It's like well I want to leave And then actually now I'm going to stay We talk tanking I mean honestly like I might get in trouble for this answer

But I think it's like Definitely happening in the WMA. And yeah, we talk about our mistakes, too. They pulled me to their side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man. You can't be rolling around the city like this tonight before games, no, you know, doing this, doing whatever.

And of course, family stories. And we're like, Mommy, why did you miss that? Mommy, do you play basketball? Check out Game Recognized game with Stuy and Miles on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What kind of music do you listen to when you're training And do you listen to different music

When you train it for MMA And when you're training for a fight No, my music is Brageton and some rap It depends on The person, the rapper That I Yeah

So that gets me going Especially my bodico You'll be boxing, right? You just stand there I don't want to say like a man But damn you tough Man, you in there, and I watch paws from the back. You just be like, boom, boom, like a fucking machine.

Like bong, ping, pink, pink, pink. And you, the reason why you're so successful is you give everybody a great show. Yeah, that's one of the worst things when we watch a fight. We get hyped for a fight and they're scared for 12 rounds. They're running around wrestling and scared the door. You go up in there and you sacrifice. sacrifice everything. That's one thing.

You're never going to see that from me. I'm an entertainer first. And I want to go in there. You guys are spending your money to come see me or your time is valuable as well. So you're spending your time watching me fight. I want you guys to leave and say, my God, that was a fight. I don't, look, I spend a lot of money on my office, but I don't mind him getting dirty or bloody. It's funny because I am the complete opposite of what you see in that ring.

I'm like, I'm a sucker outside of the ring. I'm a cry baby. I don't know. Once I go through those ropes, I'm a different person. I'm the real deal in those ropes. And that's what you're going to see. And now with this record that I'm trying to break, you're going to continue to see that because I have to get those knockouts

because I need to break that record. So that's what I want to get out. Those knockouts soon come. Those knockout. I even see you sometimes in the crowd as a fan being frustrated. You be looking at fights and I see, you see boxes, you know, and they ain't putting in that work. And I see you sometimes.

I watch on TV or I get the fight and I see Amanda in the crowd. And I'm like, she's like, man, you better fuck this dude. I'm kind of biased because I fight the way I like to watch fights. I love to go in there, you know. You're putting everything on the line, yes. But you want to go out there and put a show. Like, I want to see that. I want to see one get knocked down, get up and knock, knock,

the other one down. Like, actually, that's like a dream fight for me. Like, I get knocked down, and I get back up, and I knock the girl down, and we go back and forth. Obviously, I win. But, you know, and when I became on the speed of champion, I fought a Mexican, Erica Cruz. This girl, she's obviously a Mexican fighter. But I always said, I want a fight where we're just going back and forth, back and forth.

I saw Jordan that my trainer, and he was like, you're nuts. I said, no, that's the. fight I won. And for it to be undisputed, something the first coming out of Puerto Rico, I wanted to be that fight. I could have boxed that girl easily. Like, she just, she was just flat-footed and come forward. Like, I could have outboxed it easily. I said, no. I'm going to go to toe to toe with that girl. And I was show Borico, Puerto Rico and Mexican fighters, they, they bring the best out of each other. And I did. It was a 10-round war. We was both bloody. And I became on the sputa that night. And my, my outfit was all bloody down to my,

sneakers. But people remember. People remember that. Yeah. You know, one of my favorite boxes of all time was Diego Correlli. Yeah. Last and peace. He was on that type of time. Oh. Slug out. Surrogati. Yeah.

These are guys that they hit the floor and they get back up and knock you out. Then you knock them out again. And they knock you out. And that's the real shit. Now everything's a business. Now these people they want to babysit. They on the feeder record. They don't want to take. a chance. Listen, I have four losses down on my record.

But listen, I'm still number one, one of the pound-for-pound best female fighters. People love to see me fight because I wasn't taught boxing. I was taught to be a fighter. I am a fighter first. And then, yes, I can box if I want to, but I don't want to. Plus, these girls don't hit that hard. Maybe if they hit hard, I will be a little, like, keep my hand up. But no. Shout out to Egg, get some of you and him,

spar when y'all was kids and you hit that boy so hard he said you want yeah he said you won't come up he said bang he was like oh my god i better watch it with this girl this girl you let him up yeah he knows he knows but i can't spot him now you're crazy he will destroy me always said to myself i said to myself because i don't sleep on nobody you almost got beat up by roy jones one time you can't be a great storyteller if you don't tell the wins and losses. Of course. You got to say to you.

Well, Roy Jones came to me. He was going to knock me out. I was grabbing his wrist like this, like, champ, don't knock me out. Champ, chill. I knew what he was going to do. And it wasn't even going to, he ain't had to go like this.

He just bang real quick. He'd have put me out. I got it. You know, so I always, watch. And I said, damn, man, you know what? A female could knock a dude out. I don't care. Like, is there like, like, let me leave that one. You think a female boxer ever knocked her husband out, like caught him cheating or some wild shit. They're in the housekeeping. I'm pretty sure. And put them out, right? Ain't nobody bragging about that shit, right?

Gotta say the lost is with it. What? You got to say the lost is with the way? I don't think nobody. I, I think motherfuckers like, yo, she was Layla Ali, though. She put me out the bus. She smoked her. Yo! But you got to be careful. Mm-hmm.

You know, in hip-hop, we almost like boxers. We got to have an undefeated record. The minute you're on camera getting your ass whoop, you don't like that rapper no more. It's over. Of course. You ever knew that? Yeah, I never got my ass. All right.

All right. No, my thing is I had beat for 50 cents for six years, and I knew where. Ever I seen him, we was going to fight or worse. Every day, I knew I could be on World Star. He might be on World Star. That's a different type of waking up in the morning, right? That's a different kind of Christmas. It's like, and I'm fat Joe, he cocked Diesel, 50 cents.

I'm like, yo, man, wherever I see him, the shit got to get, what do you want to do? You know, James, we put you on the fucking couch next show, James. Cock Diesel, they don't like that. They don't like that. That's a flag. These people crazy What's the one thing You want new fans

To understand about female boxing Listen, we're here We put in the work Just like the men do We Sacrificing our lives Our brain, our bodies And we want to entertain you guys

We want to go out there We want to be able to make some money Like the men We want to be able to showcase us skills like the men. But now, little by little, I'm so glad that I opened a lot of doors for these women, you know, because of me, MVP, they took a chance with a woman. They weren't sure what women can do. I went out and I proved that women are marketable.

We can't fight. We're champions. We're talented. So now I have a whole, my whole roster is over 40 women. And I'm, and great women. I love that girl, Bum Gardner. Yeah. She gets busy, huh?

She's part of her team. She's a beautiful girl in and out the ring. You know, she does her thing. And, you know, the future is bright for her and all the girls on the team. Yeah. Who's some of the other young, up-and-coming female boxes you think? Who's the girl you mentoring? You mentor?

Yeah, I managed to. Elise Soto. She's 20 years old. She's 10 and 0 with 9 knockouts. She reminds me a lot of myself. You said it before. She was probably never even had a fight. You was saying, yo, she's going to be a chap.

Yeah, I spoiled with her. I'll be putting a. beats on. She's still coming back. I'm like, well, but I think it's the age. I think it's the age. Yo, man, I wish you could live forever, man. I wish you could be 60 beating their asses, man. I wish

too. Amanda, boy, let me tell you, boy, she don't play that shit, man. And yo, you know, she loves sneakers. She took it easy today on us with this. Yeah, I'm trying to be like big bro here. You know, I had to show the roomie. She came in the house and store the collection and all that.

Yeah, I was like, I put Jordan in I'm on to you. Like, I've been told them, I was like, yo, Reggie, this is the girl, she fights the Jordans. Yeah,

but you need to give him another call. Yeah, you got a broken back, man. We was with them last? I swear to God, I try to make it happen. Reg, make it happen,

Reg. Tell me about it. Yo, Reg, I got to give her that shit, like do a fucking P.E. With her something, like, she deserves it.

You'll be fighting. Since 2019. Was that legal? Well, it's now. If it wasn't, I made it. She's going to ring with Jordan. 2019, I started my first time wearing, you know what's so funny?

It was that house a beautiful thing. As a kid, I was never poor. I was never, I had a beautiful family. My dad always worked to make sure we had food on the table and a roof over ahead. So my first pair of Jordans was in 2019, the Concord's 11. And there was the first time that I fought with them, was just that same sneaker that I four with a maid history became a seven division world champion

in 35 seconds with those sneakers on. So it's like cool. Like my first pair of Jordans, I wore them in a fight. You're getting the Jordan deal, man. Jordan family, reach out to her people and doing the right thing. I told them already.

He knows. I've been showing them footage at all. Like I'm like, look, walks in the ring with the joints, just the one. And it's Jordan's that you buy in the store. No, not cost them. Yeah, he was just,

Let me tell you something, me and this guy, we have a serious problem with sneakers. Like the first thing we did, we seen each other, he was like, y'all, I caught these, I caught those. You heard these are coming out. These are over here. We went to L.A. and lost our mind, All-Star weekend. He's in one store.

I'm in one store. He's in one store. He's in one store. And we're just getting sneakers. We buying sneakers and drops. I love watching you guys. Listen, I'm definitely not a sneaker head. I have lots. I just love sneakers

and I've been by ever since that since 2019. I just been into them into Jordans and now I'm going over to Adidas, new balance.

But your collection is amazing. Like it's like pound for pound number one. And I'm like even going to the elevator to go see sneakers.

Purple ray. Purple ray. Purple ray. I think One sneakers, probably not even close to my whole collection that I have. Yeah, but you want to know why? It's the love. And let me tell you something about collecting sneakers, just buying sneakers.

You never know in the future that sneaker might turn into something worth $10,000. There's plenty of sneakers I've bought that we bought them when they first came out. And four years later, they worth $7,000, $10,000. Like, it just be like a jewel that everybody want to get their hands on. You need to take me shopping one day. I need to get a couple of jewels for retirement. I got you. That's too easy.

You definitely inspire me. You need the pink air max. They just came out for the girls. The pink air max. You need the air max 95. The pink joints came out for the girls. They ain't come out for the, well, I got them. Oh, Brian.

I got them. You got them in a girl size? They only come out and girls. Damn, how I get them? I got them. They got girls with feet. That's your stuff. That's great.

Well, I get so upset. These I thought were going to be girls, and they came out for guys. And I get so upset because y'all get the fly colors. The women get the flyest colors. I go and they be like, nah, it's for girls. I'm like, yo, my man, like, why I can't get them? Guys with smaller feet, they're lucky.

Like mayor, what's mayor? Eight and a half, nine. No, he used to be eight, nine and nine and a half. Now he lost weight. He's at eight and a half. His feet lost weight. You know your feet lose weight. Not from a nine and a half to eight and a half.

Your feet lose weight. What kind of feet did he have? How hard is that when I see fighters getting ready to get weighed in and all that and they got to lose the next. or two, three pounds. Yeah, lucky. I never had to, I never lost anything on the scale.

Like, I never lost any of my titles. I've always come in professional. I always make sure I do what I have to do. How hard is that? But it's very hard. And it's funny, me going up in division is a lot harder than me losing weight.

I'm a small girl. I went down to, I want a title at 115. But going up to like 135, 140, that's a little rough for me because I walk around at 135. And once I start training, the weight just comes off so easy.

easy and I have to go after the gym, stuff my face and eat. Or you got to do the reversal. Yes, you got to work out to eat. You got to work out there. Yeah, and to me that's hard because when you feel so stuffed and sluggish, you don't perform the same way and you feel heavy.

Like, I feel my best at Featherweight, 126, and that's where I am the champion, Unified Champion. So to me, I'm on the feet at Featherway at 126. But when I go up, I'm taking chances. Those girls are going to go. going up as well. They'll drop down and they'll make the weight,

but then they're shooting back up after the way. Something I never understood, right? And you can let me know because this is your life, right? Obviously, you can't take a 350-pound guy to fight a 150-pound fight. But is it really make a difference, four pounds and five pounds when they're like, yo, I got to go up five pounds to come down five. It does because, listen, from 126 to 135.

I don't know. I'm not a boxer, but what they do, they're straining themselves. They're making that weight, the day of the weigh in, they make whatever weight they have to make. But then after that,

you start eating, you're still bulking up, you start, you get all that weight back. So, okay, when I for Katie Taylor, the fight was at, the first time,

it was at 135. I weighed in, what, 133, 133, she weighed in 134. But I'm a natural feather weight. So the night that we checked in, like we did the, the mock weigh in, I was 132.

I lost a pound from the way into, she went on the scale. She was about 140-something, right? 155. Damn. So she goes up. So the night of the fight and that's like, that's like three,

and then she eats three or four more meals. So the night of the fight, I'm going in there fighting a girl, 155 pounds while I'm 133 pounds. Wow. So it does make a difference. That's crazy. Yeah, so that's why I always say.

I'm the best. I'm the queen at featherweight. It's hard. That's where I feel my best at. Every time I go up, I'm taking a chance. And not too many people, not too many girls or men are taking those chances or making those sacrifices to be great. You know, I'm the first and only seven-division world champion. And to me, that's a bigger accomplishment than any other thing because it's not easy going up and down in weight.

And especially winning in higher weight. I feel like... Well, it definitely says you never duck nobody because, you know, somebody going seven divisions and winning. That's another thing. You know what I'm saying about boxes where boxes, you know, duck other people. You know, maybe I don't know the game, but when I was in the belt,

you heard it. Mohamed Ali was fighting everybody. You know, the boxes was fighting people back in the day. Yeah, no, I'm telling you. Now it's a business. Like, even for me, now, at this part of my career, like I'm towards the end.

Joe, you know, I fall in the beginning of my career for peanuts. Like there was championship fights. Like I tied with Miguel Koto becoming a four-de-vision world champion for what, $4,000. What's the lowest bag? $4,000 for a champion.

No, that's not the lowest. Oh, $1,500, $1,500 for a world title. $1,500 for a world. And you have to remember that these sanctioning fees, they take a percentage the trainer fees the cut man

all that so by the time I'm looking at my account I got like $250 You remember of Wu-Tang I used to do shows with Wutte we used to get $500 a show they had 13 dudes breaking off $500 I'm over here

with $500 like this shit was crazy I was like yo how are these guys gonna make it like this shit it ain't nothing but McDonald's after that show. But now, lucky, I can eat at expensive restaurants before I couldn't. Exactly. Before I had to go to the dollar menu.

But it's amazing how it became like full circle. So now that I'm in this part of my career, I get into business. But we ever see you in a relationship in, like, because we ain't never see you booed up or nothing like that. You ain't never doing that. When I retired, Joe. Yeah. When you retire, you might get booed up.

Hit a little red carpet. Of course. Of course. I mean. Why did I say wrong? I didn't say anything. No, because she's been so dedicated. That's the one thing.

It takes dedication in her field of. Greatness requires sacrifice. I sacrifice my life to the sport. And obviously, I think it's worked. Look where I'm at right now. I'm on the Joe Jada show. That's right. I'm not.

No. It's the real deal talking to you out. It's at your pace. If you never want to be in. That's on you, but I'm just saying. But I've seen it. I've been around it. And even as a younger teenager, being in the gym, watching these men and they're having

girlfriends and they being stressed out, even my sister and Jordan, her husband, her husband is her trainer, was our trainer. Well, is our trainer. And sometimes they would have arguments and my sister would be upset or, you know, one. I had a friend that was a boxing. He had a girlfriend. Yeah. I've seen it.

It drives some nuts. The fucking training camp to come back in town. Boxing brings me all the same emotions. I'm happy. I'm sad. I'm crying. I'm excited. So I think when I retire, then I'll have time for myself.

I'll be able to ride along in the sunset. Maybe with a boo thing. Maybe you'll be eating the coconut on the beach. Drink a pinia colada. Eat the coconut on the beach. It ain't nothing like that. MVP. Yeah, MVP women boxing is coming on ESPN.

Mm-hmm. When it starts. So excited. It starts. Well, the debut starts April 5th or 6th. I'm not sure in the UK. But that's on Sky Sports, but it's going to be on the ESPN app. But the first official on ESPN, ESPN, is April 17th at the Garden.

And that's where Alicia Baumgartner headlining, defending her titles. So it's super excited. for her. Another question I just thought about, right? Aren't you like the highest paid one female boxer ever for a fight? I am.

I am. I'm the first. You know, fuck you the highest paid ever. Yo! It's truly an honor. Listen, I was the first female to get a million dollars. And I say the first because it was a Katie Taylor fight. So my team came back to me and said,

we're going to give you a million dollars. We were so excited, so happy, so proud of that accomplishment that my manager, Jordan, is that we have to announce this because we have to show women that we can do it. We broke that battery. We broke that city. Let's do it. So when Jordan did that, Katie Taylor was like, wait, wait, wait a minute. How much you're getting? Because she wasn't getting that much.

She wasn't getting that much. So her team had to go, yeah, she was a champion. I was a contender. So the heart team was like, okay, we'll give you. give you the mill. So we both end up getting a mill that fight that night. That was April. I mean, some people claim that they're the first.

But in my calculations, in my calendar, April comes before October. It don't even matter. So it don't even matter. But anyway, everybody knows it's solid. But I'm so proud. So proud of that moment. And look, we're getting not, that wasn't my only fight where I made a million. I made millions.

I'm mostly million. there and I'm so proud to say that. You know, you know what's crazy is or what's not crazy, but you know what's the biggest lesson and I think me and Feev was talking about this.

What Allah says, Feef, Allah says feeding somebody is the biggest thing you could do while you are on earth. So not only you didn't just say this is for me, I want all the money, I want all of this.

Nope. You opened up the lane for other females to come after you to eat and not get taking it. So they don't have to get paid $1,500 for their championship. Yeah. And that is big. And so I believe that that's the type of stuff you get judged with. Because when you die, they're not going to say, damn, Fadjo was looking flies hell on this shit.

They're going to say, y'all, he fed some people, man. He opened the doors for some people. He took care his people, his community. that's where it's that, man. And so that's beautiful that you just didn't want to say, yo, I want to be the only, you know, there's people like that. I want to be the only one to eat. I don't want nobody to eat.

I want to be that. And so that's commendable that you're opening the doors for the women. That's something I can't do. I love, I'm a ladies' lady. I love empowering women. They always say empowered women, empower women. And that's what I'm going to continue to do. And I love it.

I love seeing these girls grow. Like, I have another girl, Crystal Rosado, Puerto Rican girl. She, for her pro debut, she made more money than I did at my championship level. So just to see that and like, man, look what, look how far we've come. Look what I'm able to give to these young ladies. That's a beautiful thing. Yo, this ain't that. That ain't this.

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