Joe and Jada - Angela Renee Simmons talks NEW SINGLE “Run To” w/ Jada, mental health & growing up hip hop royalty
Episode Date: March 19, 2026Fat Joe and Jadakiss sit down with Angela Renee Simmons, who pulls up to Joe and Jada to talk about her new single “Run To,” a record featuring Jada and Resa about mental health, faith, an...d finding your way through the maze. Signed to Rough Riders, Angela breaks down what inspired the song, what her creative process looks like in the studio, and why she's been working on music for over two years before putting anything out. The conversation gets real when Joe opens up about his own two-year battle with depression, living in a bungalow at the Delano while fighting his mind, and spending years talking friends off the ledge at 6 in the morning. Angela shares what it was like growing up as Rev Run's daughter and the moment she recognized her father was a rap superstar. Joe also tells the story of the first time he heard Run DMC in junior high school and watched a thousand Bronx kids all look at each other at the same time knowing hip hop had changed forever. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX! All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet 04:00 Story behind "Run To" & getting into music 09:00 Signing to Rough Riders & working on full project 13:00 Mental health, depression and fighting your own mind 17:30 The pressure of fame on famous kids 31:00 Angela's Cakes & Jada’s fasting 34:15 Growing up as Rev Run's daughter 38:15 The first time Joe heard Run DMC 45:30 Premiering "Run To" live on the showSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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She got the new song called Runt.
That's what she's talking. And you're
on it. That is like
a very high...
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This is Joe Crack to Dawn.
It's your boy Jada.
You know what it is.
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Today's guest.
You think of today's guests.
You think of a lot of things.
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A creator.
You think of somebody that works out, extreme workout, all kind of working out.
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I think it's somebody that does a lot of praying.
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It comes from a good family, a good background.
Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for Angela Renee Simmons.
My intros is getting better and better.
That was a wonderful intro.
I must say.
Right on point.
Is that new to Renee Simmons or it was like, I don't think it could be new.
Well, I don't think she...
We never heard it.
But I don't think she...
Well, Angela Renee is my hardest name.
And Angela Renee Simmons is my full name.
Angela Renee is your artist's name.
Yeah.
Also, that's what...
I...
Different levels. I heard it two, three times this morning.
I'm like, all right, so we're running with that.
Yeah, that's my real name, though.
Because Renee's my middle name.
Oh, all right. That makes sense.
I had to ask you, dude, I was nervous.
Yo, James, do I don't say Simmons?
Or do I just add René?
I don't want to mess up here.
Yeah, you got to say Simmons, but you got to say this one of them things, y'all, two-time a felon with the peppermint tea.
Thank you.
What a quorum.
Make some noise for two-time of fowler.
How many people can get a two-time a feller than get him a pepity?
Perman T, two-time a fella.
You missed that Jordan.
Boy, you was like they left without me, huh?
Here, that boat sailed.
No, that boat sailed.
That boat sailed is sick.
That boat sales.
Save it for Thursday.
Let's stop.
Listen, you grew up royalty to us.
You know, we look up to your family so much on another level that you was just born into this role.
Like, your family is pretty much in hip-hop culture because I take hip-hop like it's a religion, to be honest with you.
And so there's four fathers, there's people who we wouldn't be here if we wasn't for your family, right?
And so when we see you growing up,
It's like almost like the Kennedys or something.
We're looking at you like, she, it's real tall.
What I say now?
Not like the Kennedys, man.
I mean, on the, nah, no, give me another comparison, not the Kennedys.
The Kennedy's a big.
We know that you, but I don't like that comparison.
Rockefeller?
Not that one either.
All right.
I understand where you're going.
No, what I'm like,
you obviously don't understand.
I do understand.
We know what you say.
Early.
Like, listen to me, man.
I know what you're saying.
You understand?
Yeah.
But growing up before everybody's eyes,
and that's even before social media.
Yeah.
How tough is it to be perfect?
How tough is it to, like,
everybody expects so much from you?
Everybody just looks at you like,
He's going to ask you some crazy things.
Is he really?
So I need you to just...
Flow with it.
I'm going to try to flow with it.
I'm doing the most decent.
Ask your questions in the world.
How tough is it to be perfect?
It's kind of a shit.
But it's true that's a question.
Have you ever felt...
I think the world wants you to be perfect.
I'm by no means perfect.
I mean, it might look perfect,
but like on the inside,
everyone got their own stuff going on.
You know what I mean?
So when you say perfect,
it's like to find perfect.
What do you?
mean by birth.
What I mean, like, everybody expects so much of you.
They do.
Since you was a baby, we looked at you like, all right, they're going to, you know, this is what
it is.
Yeah.
You know, how hard is that?
So they're like, what's next for you?
How do you compete or, like, compare to that?
And I think the most important thing is, like, coming from it is not to compare yourself
to that.
Do what you do.
And to just be who I am.
And our parents really, like, instilled that in us at a young age.
Like, you don't have to even be of this industry.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, we were.
were never forced into it.
We didn't have to be in it.
We didn't have to be on TV growing up.
We didn't have to do none of it.
My parents are like,
wanna be a doctor,
go be a doctor.
You want to beat it?
Like, whatever.
And you could change your career
at any point in your life.
Even now,
like, if I just want to go do something else,
like I'm not confined to one thing,
confined to one thing.
Like, I don't have to do that.
So I feel like being perfect,
you know, your family doesn't,
my family doesn't force that on us,
but the world has the pressure of saying,
be perfect.
But no, for me, I don't look at it like that.
You know what I mean?
I don't put that much pressure on myself.
I just do what feels the best, you know.
In a mental health level, it's so important not to put yourself in that position
where you're stuck being and being someone who you're not just for everybody else.
Yeah.
How important is it to talk about mental health on a public platform?
Very important.
I mean, even run to, it's like I'm really big on where do you run to?
When you're going through things, where can you run to?
What does everyone have?
I run to God before anything else.
You know what I mean?
Like, I got to break before we do anything.
For the people that, for the viewers and the people on the rock,
she's stepping in the music now.
She got the new song called Run.
That's what she's talking.
And you're on it.
That is like a very high.
I love this shit.
That is like a highlight.
I have to say, thank you.
I was saying somewhere.
She was like, y'all, I'm coming on.
By the way, people, there's a long list of, that's the fuck.
mean. There's a long
waiting list of people
superstar actors
who's trying to get on this show
and you was like, yo Joe, I'm coming on this show.
I'll be there next week. Don't worry this.
And I guess I assume my royal position.
I said, all right. The queen is
coming. She's sitting down and we
it is what it is.
Thank you. And she told me she did a song with you.
I guess what made you want to rap
And now and...
Yeah, I would say it's more poetic.
You said poetry, right?
Because I ain't hearing it yet.
You ain't hear it?
No, I ain't.
We're going to hear it together for sure, right?
But it's spoken word.
I mean, I just, I'm a creative and I'm a creator,
and I went in the studio, and I went with what came from inside of me.
Like, there's other levels and layers to me that people haven't met yet,
and so this is another side.
Your voice is ill.
Thank you.
And when a hitmaker called me, you know,
Hit makers behind this.
Hit maker, Corte, but hit maker got reached out to Jada.
He reached out and they was trying to explain what kind of song it was.
I can't really understand to me.
I understand it.
I understand it.
I'm like, oh, no, this shit is, this is nice.
It's a vibe.
Yeah.
It's a top-down vibe, you know, hair-blown and way-five.
You know, you're better than me.
I ask some four verse.
I never get it.
You get it.
I'm so thankful for my verse.
Ain't that some shit?
You got sci-bide or live, huh?
I can't get this
motherfucker to do nothing.
That's cat.
Ladies and gentlemen, you know that.
So you just said
you're being creative, you know, I've been hearing
that a lot lately.
And I appreciate that
and I love that because
for many years, I feel like
that has gone away
from the culture
where it ain't just
quick fix to make money.
It ain't this.
People like,
y'all want to just express myself.
Yes.
This is near to my heart.
I mean, it's a project I started working on over two years ago.
But I have like 12 or 15 songs.
I'm actively in the studio.
I'm signing with Rough Riders, which is like huge.
Make some noise for that big wop in the building.
Yeah.
They did a deal with me.
Yo, wow, what's up, baby?
Go long.
Wine in the building.
Yeah, and that alone is just exciting for me.
So I'm stepping into a whole new world.
But it's something that I've been doing,
and I'm actively in the studio and there will be a project,
but we started and we'll run to.
What inspired you're doing to?
When I got in the booth, honestly,
just thinking of life and life circumstances
and what's going on in mental health and like,
where can I go and, you know,
Reez is on the track, the girl's singing
and listening to what she was talking about.
I'm like, yo, this makes sense for that.
You know what I mean?
Sitting there and really thinking about
what people are going through,
people mask their pain all day.
We all do.
We're human, but it's like, where can we go?
How do we, like, express it?
So it just came from, like, real emotion, raw emotions, things I'm going through,
things that I feel like other people can relate to and maybe don't always talk about.
But music's a great place because it's things you listen to.
Like, for me, the first thing I do in the morning, I'm on jazz, I'm listening to meditation stuff.
So, like, this is something to me, I can listen to the first thing in the morning.
Because it's just positive when it pushes me to the next level, like, what's next, you know?
Is there a project?
I said, I heard you say you've been working on it, but you're going to really,
release.
Yes, there's a project.
Don't rush the single, though.
Let the single, let it marinate and saute in those numbers.
No, we got time for the project.
The single is the push right now.
That's what I like that.
Yeah.
The video, you ain't see the video yet, right?
I ain't see nothing yet.
We got to premiere everything.
I'm in the blind, man.
Nobody's showing me shit.
Oh, we got to show you everything.
I'm in the blind.
Yeah, in the blonde.
Objects appear closer in the mirror or whatever that shit is.
man.
You know, it's crazy, right?
Because when we talk about mental health,
like me, myself,
I went through depression for like two years.
Got real fat,
you know, couldn't sleep, couldn't, you know,
I went through it, through it, through it, through it.
And the whole time, you know, the challenge ain't even a place, right?
So say the first year of my depression,
I went, the luckiest thing I think I had about my depression was that I was rich at the time.
So at least I was able, yeah, that helped.
I was at the Delanoe.
I had the bungalow for like rented for a year.
Oh, wow.
So I'm just in there depressed coming out, pool new strangers every day.
I lived in the Delano in Miami in the bungalow.
And I was just like, wherever you go, you can go to the most beautiful place when you're going through depression.
That she can't mask it.
It's all in your mind.
So I'm saying, your mind is like a Rubexcule.
So it's like you fight in your mind.
So I noticed I said, damn,
there's one thing you're a gang member,
you got to move out of Compton.
Hey, move out of Compton.
They won't kill you.
But when you fight in your own mind,
they don't matter where you go.
You go private islands.
I did all that shit.
Private islands, all that was still depressed,
still fucked up, still, you know.
And it's like a Rubex cube one day.
You got to figure it out.
You got to crack that cold.
I kept telling myself, like, yo, Joe, you smart.
Come on, figure this out.
Joe, every day fighting myself.
Yo, Joe, you're smart, man.
Figure this out.
Come on, you know how to get out of this.
You know what's going on because I knew what was going on.
Like, not only being depressed, I'm losing everything.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
My crew, my days, my that.
Everybody's looking at Joe.
He's not the same.
He's weaker, this, this, that.
So, you know, that mental illness is real.
but I told them before.
He hates what I repeat stories,
but it's important.
You know, when I was going to see therapy,
it was 99% women and me.
I was the only man in there going to get therapy.
It was just all women and me.
And I asked the doc one day,
I said, your doc, you don't say,
why there's no many yet?
And she was like, well, these are all women.
They got rich husbands that feel like
every time their husband leave out of town,
he's doing the do.
He's not seeking the king.
He's not seeking the kingdom.
You've got to seek the kingdom.
Yes, yes.
It's real, though.
We can't forget that one.
Anytime temptation, any bad thing, whatever,
just say, you know, I'm seeking the kingdom.
Get up out of it.
Yeah, but that's real.
I mean, depression is like,
they say lack of expression.
And it's like you versus you.
So it's like anytime you're feeling down,
it's like you really got to look at yourself,
You know what I mean?
It's like, what am I doing that's not expressing myself enough?
What am I not expressing?
What part of my life am I not?
Like, what am I not doing?
Because like I get, I think sometimes and I think so many people even around me
have experienced depression and I've been through things where it's like,
what do you do now?
Like what am I not doing to get myself to the other side?
It's such a push.
And so that like to me, that's a part of like the inspiration behind the music like
and what I'm putting out right now.
Fine.
That's right.
You're a mom or producer, an entrepreneur,
a creator,
you're making music.
How are you going to balance all of these things?
I don't think there's a perfect balance to it.
I think it's more about just allocating time.
Like, okay, I'm going to put this much percent of time here,
this here.
It's like looking at your 100 percent and splitting it up
and giving 100 percent of each time of each of those percent.
You know, I learned that from a mentor over time,
and I was like, that makes a lot of sense
because you can't give 100 percent to everything without breaking it down.
Like, okay, I'm going to give 20 percent here.
But when I give that 20 percent,
I'm going to give 100 percent at that.
20%, you get what I'm saying, my highest level.
So it's just about giving that time
when I have that time. Yeah, I don't work
like that. Like me, I'm like, uh,
I'm like, crazy.
I'm definitely crazy.
No, no, I figured out. What's your version of crazy to?
I'm not crazy, crazy, but I'm crazy, crazy.
But I'm crazy. I'm crazy. I'm crazy.
I'm crazy.
But the two chains came over here
the other day. He sat in that seat.
He looked at it. He says,
now I watch y'all on the time. And I just
think you just, he said,
nah, you crazy.
And he did.
The first guy made me realize
I'm crazy.
Because Chuchin don't play like that way. He told me
that I looked at him, I said.
His word, man.
I went home, I said,
Joe, you're fired.
I said, Joe, you fried.
I said, I went away. I said,
too Chene's thing ass. He said,
nah, I'm really figuring
it out, Joe.
You crazy.
So I got that call
when we pulled out of here,
headed in the jersey. I said,
nah, yo, you know,
son, Joe, you fry.
You told yourself that after?
I'm frowned.
Man, because I get, we got a crazy dude that's in this building.
He's with OG1 and Jay-Z every day.
My man, Golda.
I know Goddor since the 80s in the streets.
Shout out to Gordo.
Shout out to my brother Goldo, and Gordo is fraud.
Okay, everybody knows he's crazy.
Everybody, you know, Goddardot, why?
You know, he's crazy.
Everybody knows he's crazy.
One day, he looked at him and he said,
Joe, you know, you fraud.
I said,
It's the fried for me
When the fried,
nigga, the kettle
calling the kettle
The pot, whatever
Like he said,
I'm fried,
I'm fried,
You're fried.
You messed up the street.
I said,
Yo,
go,
I'm fried
with the pot
calling the
crazy.
You call it
the pot calling the kettle black,
bro,
that man hit me with their.
Yo,
Joe,
you know you fried?
I said,
what?
Stupid fried my whole life.
I got problems
I got problems
in a good way though
in a good way
You good crazy
Yeah I'm good crazy
But I need that
You know she's coming
I know she's dropping the record
She's worried she
I want to talk hip pop
Somehow we're talking mental illness
Yeah yeah
No no
We've been talking about
I know it's the realest shit
Everybody's going through something
I mean I've been seen it
I'm going with you
So this is why we talk
Mental illness right now
Right so I'm going with
I'm one of them guys.
I freestyle.
I don't got enough.
I'm going with the flow.
Flow is, it's real.
A lot of people going through some shit.
Let us tell you what we're going through.
So maybe it'll help you if you're going through that now.
It's true.
You understand what I'm saying?
But.
I like your hand,
I like it.
Oh, this is hilarious.
No, this guy's great.
Finish.
I forgot what I saw the same.
But in this business, you're all over.
Because of fraud.
But in this business, right like you, you get in the relationship,
you're all over everybody in your business.
You can't pick a booger.
You go to dinner.
You can't pick a booger.
It's shit crazy out of you.
You got flags.
Which one should I'm flagging a booger?
Don't throw a flag.
We come up before social media.
It's shit is fried out here.
Everything's a problem, a landmine, a
this or that, let me tell you something.
I'm going to tell you something.
It's none of these people, you can
put the camera on me.
It's none of these people.
It's not. I hate
6'9. Like, I hate
like, I hate them.
Like, I hate.
Hold on.
What is we going wrong? Let me explain
something to you. Let me, I always got a reason
for explaining this shit.
I fucking hate them.
If he stepped on a landmine, I wouldn't give a fuck
for one kilometer of a
I might play the
I don't give a fuck, right?
So I hate everything he stands for,
everything he does, everything.
I hate him.
The guy goes to jail for three months.
I thought maybe my social media calmed down.
I said, all right, this pussy in jail,
that maybe it'll calm down.
This shit just started going wild, crazy,
everybody else, beefing with everybody,
everybody talking about everybody.
It's like, yeah, I thought he was the problem.
I thought he was like the cancer.
of my Instagram, you know, of everything I hate in life.
And the man goes away for three, four months,
and the shit get even crazier, bro.
So what I'm saying is mental health,
when we go back to the mental health,
it is-
It is mental health.
Yeah, it's all connected.
It's all connected.
It's all connected because it's fucked up right now.
The world and everything that's going on right now
is fucked up.
And, you know, to keep your sanity, to keep your this,
and then you got to still look cute,
you got to do everything you got to do,
you got to be presentable, you got to this, this, this, this, that.
That shit is not, it's hard.
And I worry about our kids,
and I worry about everybody out there
because it's just so much pressure
in so many different ways for everybody.
Famous kids, famous kids,
they be killing themselves.
It's just the truth
because it's a different kind of pressure on them.
Yeah, I mean, the spotlight pressure messes with people for sure.
I think if you're not built for it
or you don't have the foundation,
you know what I mean?
It can definitely become a thing that's like hard,
especially if you don't have a therapist
or you're not seeking like things to help you spiritually.
If you're not growing,
it becomes a really hard space for kids, you know?
So it's tough.
We got to keep good people around you
and the right people, great people,
matter of fact, around you.
And what do you do when you get old like me
and you say, y'all, I'm tired?
Go to bed.
Like your wife?
No, go what?
Go to bed.
Go to bed?
No, no, no, no.
For a long time, say Roughrodd as a big crew,
terrorist squad a big crew.
For a long time,
I might have talked so many guys off the ledge
from doing triple life.
You don't know how many times?
I don't drink.
How about when you do see me drink?
When one of my friends say they're about to kill a whole town,
I go there and sit with them to six in the morning,
drinking Hennessy talking them off the mountain, the ledge.
No, brother, you know, drinking the Hennessy with a mouth about,
you know, I did this shit my whole life.
I'm tired.
I'm tired.
Joseph Cardagena is tired of jumping in everybody's beef,
everybody's talking,
everybody's this.
For years I had to be like a filter
for everybody to talk them off a ledge.
You know, and I'm tired now.
Like myself, the guy who just been
the battering ram of everybody's problems,
everybody.
You know my answer.
Do you meditate?
No, I don't meditate.
I'm good.
I'm good in my space.
I don't have no problem with my mental.
illness and nothing.
I am putting.
Let me tell you something.
I'm creative like you.
I draw.
I go in my office and yesterday
I came off the plane I drew for like
I drew for like seven hours straight.
I don't give a fuck.
I just put it in my arm.
That's your escape.
That's what you write you draw.
All my music.
That's why my music goes so violent
because it's like I got to get it out.
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Tell us about Angel's Cakes.
Yes.
We're about to actually launch in some different markets right now.
Angel's Cakes is doing well.
Pancakes and they're amazing.
We actually should get you guys some.
Definitely.
I should have cooked it right here.
Is it a supermarket or?
We will be soon.
Yeah.
Right now we're online at eat Angelescakes.com.
and Angela's cakes on Instagram.
What made you come up with a pet?
Could you do it for some guy on keto?
Like, do we got those?
Oh, we can figure it all out.
Whatever's necessary.
We can alter the recipe.
I'm on keto.
They told me they got these protein
pancakes and like whole foods.
There's keto pancakes.
They're good.
They're good?
You fasting?
How long you fasting?
Because everything you fasted?
We was traveling.
I can break my fast.
It's a month or whenever the sun.
Oh, so Ramadan.
You Muslim?
I never knew you was Muslim.
You just see me fasting.
I'm fasting.
That's amazing.
You're all the God.
What's your name in Dubai?
Aligh Cassani.
I see you're my father.
Let me say,
Puerto Ricans specialize in pork.
They love it.
When I say they love pork,
I don't know if it was the cheapest meat or whatever,
but they would eat it,
and I'd come sit in my mother's house
and my father would be like,
trying to give me pork.
I'd be like,
your pop,
I don't eat pork.
He'd be like,
Dutainese are in a religion?
He started speaking.
He thought I was buzzing.
I was like,
nah,
your pop,
I just don't eat pork.
Yo,
but it's the best shit in the world.
What are you talking about?
I'm maybe something.
I eat pork every day.
What's wrong with you this?
I'm like,
yo,
I just don't eat pork.
But, um...
Shit, don't stop a lot,
Papa.
Talk a boy?
Stop for a lot, Papa.
Stop a lot.
I said, no, I'm saying,
nah, my father's ain't give a fuck.
That man used to argue with me.
He used to try to...
One day I got so pissed in him,
he made some beans and rice.
I looked at the shit.
They had a little piece of ham in the beans.
I was like, no, I'm trying to, you know,
introduce it to you again.
I see your pop.
Don't...
He tried to slip me a Mickey.
He threw the ham in that shit.
You know I don't eat that shit since I'm 12.
He tried to slip me a bickie with the pork.
He tried to slip me and bickie with the pork.
He was dumb tight.
I stopped eating pork.
You know, that pork, man, oof.
I don't know.
I just, I couldn't do it.
Not even as a final bill.
They say, yo, you're about to die.
You want to eat some pork?
I'd be like, nah, I'm good.
What do you want your voice in hip-hop to represent?
Strength, I would say.
I really want to be able to inspire on my platform
to be able to just uplift folks.
you know what I mean?
Bring people together.
Bring that, like, good feeling, good vibe.
You know what I mean?
Like, when I'm in the studio,
those are the things I'm listening for.
Like, what's going to make you feel my best?
And I know if I feel good,
then I'm exuding that energy out.
When you do you burn candles,
do you got shade and Pali Sontra?
Yes.
You're on.
Ah, the bottom of my whole vibe down.
You got my whole vibe down.
So I like it dark.
I have like the mood,
the lights down, the blues,
or like,
depending on the mood I go.
different light color, but very dim.
And I like to record at night.
Like, I'm like sharp at nighttime.
Sometimes a little bit of red wine, tea.
Yeah.
No, you're not going to tell you about the red wine, five bottles.
I want lots of candles.
Even in the books, I like the dark bottles dead or alive.
Red wine over here.
These guys.
I like red wine.
That's fine.
Because I'm better in the day.
Really?
I mean, I got to try the candles and tea and Pollysanthro.
It's such a vibe.
The Paul is Santo.
I got to see what I can.
I got to try to, I got to go for.
You know, you know,
you got for a red.
You got guys.
That's beautiful.
That is she feels peaceful.
I look everyone's sleep in my head.
You know,
beautiful.
My music can't sound too peaceful.
That makes sense.
That makes sense.
I need to peace,
but not too.
Yo, this would be the one time.
I'm not a Jada kiss fan, bro.
I'll give up on them.
I'll break the CD and everything.
I'm on.
He come on in there.
Peace, beloved.
We all the universe.
We are the nice.
Fuck out of here.
I want my money back.
Peace for love it.
Peace for love it.
I mean, like, yo!
You ain't going to know.
I'm not going to tell you what song I made off the
off the king.
Of the peace, off the Palisantro.
That's my mind.
So you got people like Jill Scott,
you got NBI,
I got Erica Badu,
Salam.
You got Salonj.
Jene Aiko really inspired me as well.
When I heard her stuff, that is an artist that when I listen to it, I used to listen to her calm down.
She's like a really nice one.
I used to listen to it every morning.
And that made me start thinking, like, I love this.
Like this face is like beautiful to like function at.
You know what's crazy lately in my house they've been putting on this smooth.
It's a smoother level of R&B.
Like Ella May, I think she's the leader of it.
Oh, I'm in love every day.
I'm listening.
Her album is incredible.
on play right now.
100%
knowing about.
She's amazing.
Yeah, but I try to tell
Dre, you know,
Koolin Dre, you should get in the studio
with Dre.
And Dre, Dre, would know
exactly what to give you.
Yeah, I think, Hunter
and Jay would do some things.
But Dre don't know what's going
on with Alamey right now.
So I hit him up and I was like,
yo,
Elamay been on my playlist
crazy lately.
He's like, yeah, Joe, she's nice.
I said, no.
I said you haven't heard her new shit.
Like she ain't just nice.
She's running.
She's different level.
She's running this shit right now.
This album, I listen to it on the plane yesterday.
Her shit is crazy.
Speaking to my soul, like she just, it's something about her lyrics.
The first day, luckiest man.
Like, I know tracks.
I listen to her entire album.
Yeah.
I'll get to naming them all, but I love her.
I like the 100.
One next.
Oh, yeah, yeah, 100.
But they got a whole new genre of, like, piece of music.
It's a whole new, like, I've been listening to it.
I've been to that.
I'm telling you.
Olivia Dean's fire, too.
You sit there, they play that bitch on Spotify, whatever,
and every wreck is better than the next.
You keep going, you know, who's that?
And there's somebody you never heard of.
You go, who's that?
You know, there's somebody you never heard.
It's true. Kill it.
It's inspirational.
That's it.
Yeah.
Feel good.
Feel good.
That's what I...
Yo, when we're going to hear this record up?
But hold on, I want to...
Because y'all fucked me up.
You're shifted.
We did it?
Y'all did it.
I don't think it was us.
Growing up.
Growing up.
Yes.
Right?
Because your dad, I want people to know.
A lot of people know you, well, whatever they...
What they call, Gen Z's or whatever?
What's these young kids called?
Gen Zs.
They don't know shit about your dad.
and all that.
They just don't.
They know you.
A small one's family.
They know about you and your family
unless they come from like
a historical hip-hop family
that taught them,
yo, this is the man.
Like myself.
He know about it.
You know, just for me, right?
When they did the legendary concert
where they put up the Adidas,
I didn't get to go.
My uncle told me he was coming
and me and my brother
waited in front of that building
for hours looking at every headlight
that came.
up the block, he never came.
And so we ain't go.
And so the other day,
50th anniversary
of hip-hop, Yankee Stadium,
to me was the biggest
day of my life.
We performed, and then I went to the
suite with my family.
And your pops came on.
That she said,
and I immediately knew
the gods are here.
Like, this is another level.
of like, you know, and you as a kid,
what is some of the memorable moments
or you knew as a kid?
Like, you know, my father's a superstar?
I did it for a little while.
I think after second grade maybe.
Because I'm telling you, like,
so for me in school, like the kids would always like parents.
Second grade is young.
Yeah, I guess I kind of remember like the kids,
the parents of the kids would be like,
can we get such stuff from your dad?
I'm like, what?
It didn't dawn on me.
I'm telling you until I was at a show
and it was one that my dad,
we drove the van from New York.
to somewhere. I don't know where we went, but I know
that we used to sleep in the back of the van. That was like so fun
for us. And we would go to the hotel and
then my dad would take us to the show so we'd be on the side
and watch. But there,
I seen him throw the mic standing in the audience
and I'm like, no, all these people
are very excited to see him. I think it clicked
at that moment. Oh, he's like a lot of people
know him. You know what I mean? Like, it was the energy
in the room. It was the stand on the side
with everybody. We don't know. We were so little,
but it was like that particular show that I remember
driving the van to the show,
going to the hotel and then going to the hotel to the show
and seeing the energy in the room.
I was like, what?
And how he was just carrying on
and throwing things in the audience.
I'm like, oh, he can do that.
Like, that's crazy.
It was something else.
Watching Jammaster Jay, like, just everything.
It was like, we went to a lot of his shows.
So when we would be with him,
we'd go back and forth, my mom, dad's house.
On the weekends we were dead.
If he's on the show, we had the show.
We on the side.
We were right next to the turntables.
It was like epic.
Now that I think back, I didn't know.
It took that show to like, it clicked.
It was like my first super hero.
Really?
Or the same thing.
It's like changed my life.
Did that.
It's so dope.
I love hearing the stories.
You know, I got this.
I got this one better than anybody.
How about that one?
I'm in junior high school just to let you know how, you know,
I performed
She'll only come out at night
I sung that at junior high school
Godholing
She's a manita
Like that I'm just trying to let you know
Where we at with this
Right
Oh, here she goes
Yeah, yeah, Fat Joe son that shit
And so
I sit down
It's like a hundred of us
Well, it seems
More than 100
It was like 700, the whole school.
And the record at the time was Kumo D, Special K,
they had that meal, kneel, kneel, so everybody would come up
and do their dance routine to that.
Like, that was the shit.
They was running the game.
And these three girls, I wish I knew who they were, what they named.
They're in my school, but I don't know.
And that shit came on.
Your father's shit.
When I seen 1,000 kids look at each of because the Bronx ran hip hop,
destroyed, dominated king.
Nobody else lived.
Nobody else got to play.
Nobody else.
Like Bronx was like for maybe the first 15 years of hip hop.
It was just the Bronx.
Like it was nothing else rocking.
Every artist that was popping, Curtis Blow, whoever, everybody was the Bronx.
When that shit came on.
I watched the whole school look at each other and knew it was a new day.
Or for one play, when that shit came on, the whole school was like looking at each other.
Like, oh, one was, there we go or rock box?
No, rock, but it was, it was, I think it was like that.
Oh, that's true.
That's the way it is.
Yeah.
But when I tell you, the whole school went like this,
and everybody looked at it together and everybody looked at it together,
and everybody was like, oh, it's a new day.
It's an alien came to Earth.
It was AI.
That's insane.
Like, it was AI.
Like, we grew up such hip hop.
You know, from break dance, graffiti, this, this, this, did, did, that, did, that.
Like, we was there, there, there.
That's so dope.
And when that shit played one time, you watched the host.
Right.
The energy of that, the buildup off that song is crazy.
They just played it.
Played in the start.
No, but the way it comes on.
Everybody looking at each other like,
Yeah, it comes on with it.
Yo, in one second, everybody just looked at each other
and was like, oh, it's a new day.
Like, this shit is over.
Somebody else owns hip hop off of one play.
And they ain't never stopped.
They just took the game.
That's amazing.
You know?
Yeah, that shit was like,
because a lot of times we go through stuff, say you, right?
See, you started with TV show or whatever.
Yeah.
I wonder what the girl in Philly was thinking.
Yeah.
Or a girl in LA, young girl that could relate or whatever.
We all feel like that.
He makes music like, you all wonder how they like it or how they just, this and this.
I actually was there with a thousand fellow Bronx students,
and they all was looking like one play.
Everybody was like, wow.
It's like, all right, there's some new kings off of one play.
My name and D.C.
It's like this.
That's the way it is.
That shit was like,
he got one of them.
I used to stay up
and have to put the tissue in the tape
and catch him late night
and catch the,
that's how I used to catch the scoops.
That shit was like the best thing.
I'll kill you for that tape.
That's dope.
Me and P was going to write.
Me and P was supposed to do some writing
for the rep, right?
Really?
Yeah, we,
was with us. We're in a student. We was in powerhouse.
We're chilling. We get the beat.
First, we ask them mad,
you know that we questioned them.
We asked them a million questions.
You're chilling.
Now we finish questioning them.
We get the track. Oh, so you question them to know
what you're going to write about?
You question them because we're still doing to get here.
We question them because how many times
we go out with the red we get the action.
We ask you. So we ask him a mad
question now. We get the track.
We listen to the track. We find out
I didn't want us to carve it.
Like 6 o'clock, I don't know what, some.
I forgot what time came.
He looked at his wife.
It was church down.
I said, oh, it was sleep.
He said, I got to.
He got up.
He gave me a dead.
We ain't know what I.
I said, no, I got to go.
I got to go.
I don't play with my sleep.
My dad said, got to go.
Yeah, I got to go.
There's a set time for sleep with him.
I actually was.
everything I am.
I'm good, y'all.
I just got to go to sleep.
I don't play with my sleep when I got to go.
I got to go.
My dad be on his own schedule.
He left.
He ain't going to play about his schedule.
Whatever he's doing, he's doing.
You know, he was the first fat Joe.
He always argued with me about that.
No.
Did he say that?
That was his name.
Oh, that's what is his nickname,
young?
He did mention that.
Was fat Joe.
And fucking Russell Simmons was like,
what's a fat Joe?
Nobody gave a fuck about it.
Fat Joe, you got to be like, you know what I'm saying?
Ain't nobody on the block want to be fat Joe.
You got to be run.
You got this, this.
He tells me that story.
He said, I got mad when you came out because that was my name.
Now that's something.
He said, yo, that was my name.
Like, I was supposed to be fat Joe.
I said, yo.
I'm going to leave the flag.
Oh, it might be chat.
That's your dad.
When you go home or whatever, you speak to your dad.
I'm going to flash the fat.
Fat Joe said you was the first fat Joe.
She's going to confirm it for you.
I ain't throw it. Look what I did. A flash.
That you just showed it.
Yeah, I just showed.
Nah, you did. You got it tucked, huh?
I'm telling you the truth. I ain't going to lie to you.
What's next?
Just this project, diving into this and pushing this.
So you're really going to work it.
You ain't going to just, don't just frisbee it.
You got to really.
No, this is passion.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A minute.
Yeah, I got to talk to you behind the scenes.
We got some events to show up to.
Please come if you're a memorable too.
I'm helping to work directly.
Thank you.
This is awesome.
You know, this guy here.
Teamwork make the dream work.
Yes.
Water and fire make the steam work.
Can we hear?
You want to hear it?
Yeah, let's hear it.
Play it nice and like.
You know what's we play.
Turn it up.
Knocking or ready.
Which way to go?
Which way to be is right.
Good be spoken and evil love.
Fight up, but you blind to the fact that you don't even see the love.
At this point, the whole ordeal is draining.
Consider it a loss, that's if I'm not gaining.
I see you trying to force it, but I'm not changing.
I'm just looking for a plot.
I could bury the pain in.
Over there dreaming.
Get out of your days.
Stop fighting with your demons.
Get out of your ways.
Some of the pain leaves, but a lot of it stays.
Say it's sort of like me
Trying to get out of this maze
What's up?
We all run in face your fears
Right, so a vibe right there
That's a knock
All you got to do is work that
Let's do it
I mean
That's just need
What you got to do
Is push that thing
And let it
That's the top down song to me
Who's the girl singing?
Reza
Nice
Beautiful voice yeah
Yeah
Your voice sounds good on
Your voice sounds too
Yeah
Nice, a boss
Thank you
Thank God
When you see him go like this
Thank God.
Thank God.
It's a bond.
I'm glad.
Run, too.
Make sure y'all get that.
Run, too.
Go get that.
Put that on that list.
I'll be listening to and I'm...
Rough riders.
And I'm doing my graffiti.
Rough riders.
Yeah.
Rough riders does it again.
You know, you know, we got chapters.
We never stop.
We love.
The rough ride.
For life.
Yeah.
Shout to the general.
Yeah, I mean.
Chavon,
Mama Dean,
whole family.
You might as well shout out everybody.
The whole family.
Baby right at that.
That's it.
Respect, man.
Yo, listen, this ain't that?
That ain't this.
It's cracking kiss.
Make some noise for Angela Renee.
Simmy.
What name?
Anzler Renee.
Simmons.
And let me tell you something.
Never lose the Simmons.
And let me tell you something else.
Who, never lose the Simmons.
God get married to you.
you, you give them the Simmons.
You got to take the Simmons.
You got to take Simmons.
So I'm going to add the Simmons to my husband's name.
Yes.
Okay.
You got.
Edward Robert Washington Simmons.
Edward, Robert, Washington,
Simmons.
Edward Robert Watson, Simmons, the third.
Y'all got to take my last name.
I told my daughter that.
I said, yo, you get married.
You know, you keep that car to Gina.
So you got to figure it out.
When you get married, you got to be whatever.
car to Gina.
Like, we ain't losing that.
That's all.
I'm saying?
You're breaking it.
It don't go like that.
But we got to do it.
Everything is broken right now.
We might as well keep out of it.
It's broken.
It ain't broke.
If it's broke, keep breaking this.
If it's broke, keep breaking it.
Who gets the fuck?
You got to know.
I got to, I got a
broke.
Keep breaking it.
Yo, listen, man.
It was an honor to have you here, man.
Thank you.
Play that song again.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's hear that joint.
Yes.
Thank you for having me.
Yes.
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