Joe and Jada - Angie Martinez IRL - Busta Rhymes: I'm Not Apologizing For My Peace of Mind

Episode Date: August 28, 2026

Hip-hop legend Busta Rhymes joins Angie Martinez to talk about being able to adapt to the trends of each decade of music, find a way to co-parent while balancing a busy rap career, and how was able to find peace and happiness with his life. Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://promo.boostmobile.com/webuilt...See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, this is a long time coming. Yeah. Buster rhymes in IRL. Whataguan, darling. Hi, Buzz. What up, sis? Yeah, we haven't done this in a little bit. And you have never done IRL.

That's a fact. I mean, you know, we've had so many interviews, dope interviews over the years, but where are you now, my brother? What's happening in your world? What's your mindset? I'm in an amazing place. Like, I feel like everything that you was learning as you were going along with life and you kind of just get to the crossroad and figure out what you got to figure out when you get there. Yeah. I think we've all gotten to a place.

And I'm speaking for our alumni, right? Where it's kind of obvious in how we're all moving and shaking and the way the energy amongst us resonates when we get around each other. It feels like we figured out so much shit. We did figure out so much shit. You know what I'm saying? First of all, as I was getting ready for today and just thinking about the history of, first of all, the fact that you have been working since leaders, Just dropped what? 35 years ago this year.

You signed a deal in 1989. That's a fact. You drop in 91. Yeah. And you've been rocking ever since. 35 years. Like rocking ever since, though. Yeah.

It's been a blessing like a motherfucker. Are you exhausted? No. Really? I love it too much, yo. I love this shit so much. I know you too. And I love.

I love what this whole blessed opportunity and gift has been able to allow me to do and not just for me, but for like, the lives that I've been responsible for, you know, my family, my kids, my woman, my... It could provide. Yeah, it's like... Is that a motivation for you, like providing?

It's primarily the biggest motivation outside of, We just loving the shit. I love being in the studio. I love him. You love it. You know what I love about you too? You don't just love it for you. Like, you're one of the few people that are you always show love to other people.

Like, not just our alumni, but you like genuinely, like, you're the guy who'll be like, I love you, sis. Yeah. Like you say it. Yeah. You express it to people. Yeah. You let people know you love them. Yeah.

Every time I see you, I know I'm not going to. going to walk away from you without hearing. I love you, sis. That's the fact. My mom, that has everything to do with home, though. Yeah, I was going to say, where did you learn that? That's my mother and my father. Like, you know, in the house, there was so much love in the house. It was like uncommon. If you didn't say it, it was almost like some weird shit. Really? Yeah. Like all day, every day. Like, yeah, like we see each other, you know, you get up to go to school. mom's busting her ass making breakfast and cooking breakfast. It ain't no microwave food.

It ain't no, none of that. Like cooking breakfast and preparing lunch before she sent you to school and come home to home-cooked meals. It wasn't no microwave shit, no day. You know what I'm saying? Like, we constantly had an abundance of affection that was expressed and showed for how we, appreciated the way we was taking care of. And it's a proud, it's a super proud component for me to share that shit because, number one, showing love is a deep respect to me.

I'm selective with that love because I love in a big way, which means I respect you in a big way. And it's important that my kids understand that. It's important that that's the characteristic that I want to make sure it continues to move forward the way it was given to me and given to my home. And I'm just grateful that those are the kind of parents that I had. Yeah, I was going to say, your dad was like that too because you don't hear that a lot about dads. Mom did that more than dad did, but dad definitely wasn't like the type that would not express it as well. He just was more, he stood solid on that. I'm a man's, I'm a man, an old-fashioned stern man.

So for us, he's like a man's man, like, you know, that serious all the time. And, you know, there was a difference between, he wasn't a, he wasn't a, he's, he's like a man's man, like, you know, that serious. you know, there was a difference between, he wasn't a person that really raised his voice, but there was that serious stern tone where you knew don't fuck with him. You know what I'm saying? You respected him.

The respect for him was a no-game respect and don't play with, even if I say I love you, don't play with me. So I got a lot of that for my father. And my mom's, you know, the whole hug shit And the mushy. Yeah, that's moms. You got a mushy side too, bus.

Absolutely. I love that about you, though. Thank you, babe. I think people who don't know you might not expect that. The people that ain't supposed to receive that side of me would be surprised. Right, right. You're not out here just throwing around. That ain't for them.

You know what I'm saying? That shit got to be earned is that that love got to be established before you experience. Yeah. The more loving and, and friendly and super jockey and that regular human people side. Well, as your friend, I will say, I will testify that I always feel loved when I see you. I always feel like that. My kids always feel the love from you when they see you.

And you do it in a way where you like, I don't know how many times how many clips I've seen of you telling a story about like, you telling a story of me interviewing Janet Jackson and her saying she wanted to work with you and then happening or me doing the viral video of, look at me now. Like, you will share that out loud, which I think people don't do that enough. Like, if you feel something about somebody or you appreciate something about somebody, like, say it.

Yeah. You might not know they might need to hear it that day. Yeah. You know what I mean? I'm big on the facts, though. I'm big on the truth. It's like you give so much love to, And I think that's the reason why you're held in such a high regard in the city.

And it's been that way. It's like down to the way you do what is considered to be your work. And you have guests come and see you. You do these interviews and they don't feel like interviews ever. It's shit for you feeling like beautiful conversation pieces and moments. And a lot of that has to do with your warmth and your love. and you being a giver of love, and you loving what you do

in making sure we feel that shit, and you're a nurturer, and you care, and that shit is, we understand that on a general consensus level, like, this is who Ange is. You know what I'm saying? And a lot of the times, it's so far and few between to see that

and be able to experience that, that you have to, you have to get that love one way or another in the way that you give it. Thank you. So I love you for real. And this ain't even got shit to do with no business shit. Like we was on the phone having a conversation for a long time and was brutally honest. And I appreciate that we can have those conversations, even if I hope it could go other ways, right?

And you'd be trying to persuade me your shit. I'll be trying because, you know, it's like when I, when I, when I, when I, when I understand that there is two sides to things and I got love and respect and understanding for those two sides, I just want to be the one that could be able to gel it all the time. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And it's interesting because it's like, that's how we was raised too. When you got friends that might be indifferences, you don't pick aside. You fucking try to neutralize it. Or if, you know, there's a difference in how the things are being viewed, you just try to offer a perspective that could be a happy medium.

And again, yeah, I love to do the peacemaker thing. Like, I'm really not into, I try to prioritize the love. I'll probably advertise that shit You got other sides though, bust I've seen you angry, I seen you impatient I've seen you tired I was telling Brittany this early I remember there was an interview

we've done so many interviews over the years but I remember one time you came in you were like in peak I don't know if it was like Put Your Hands era I think it might have been put your hands era and that you were like I mean your foot just didn't come off the gas

and you came in one day and you were tired and it was emotionally like, I don't know, we just had a real conversation. And I say this, I'm not sharing something secret. Like, we talked about it a little bit on the radio that day. Yeah. And was it the same day that the thing was going on down at the other station?

What was thing? What thing was going on? That other thing, when we was going outside and listening to the radio and hearing the shenanigans that was going on with the mother of my three sons. Oh, my God. I thought you was talking about that. It might have been that time too. That was a draining time for me too.

We're good now. You figured all that out? You figured out co-parenting and all that? I mean, the kids is in their 20s and 30s now. So it's like those things that was contributing to the draining part of that experience at the time. All of that shit has expiration dates. Oh, wow. You know what I'm saying?

Fortunately. Right. You have to be a co-parent king. And I do want to talk about. I thought in that moment, you know, we come from a generation of hustle, like the hustle mentality, that hustle spirit. Things are a little different now. People like to have balance. And I've learned how important that part of life is.

And maybe we did get some of those things wrong. I mean, hustling got us where we are and we're still here and we're blessed and all that. But there is something, too, that we were working ourselves to like. exhaustion. Yeah. I mean, I passed out in the street one time. I had done a video of this. I hosted a this.

I went to the club, hosted the after party, left the after party, came outside, was on the corner store, talking to people, and passed out in the street. Oh, that's crazy. Exhaustion, dehydration. Wow.

Take me to the hospital on 14th Street. That is now no longer, what was that hospital on 14? Same, I don't remember. That's crazy. But I'm just saying we were, that could have happened to you. Yeah, fortunately, I never experienced that,

but I never heard that about you. I never knew you went through that. Like, that shit sounds crazy to me, It's really not that crazy. I mean, we weren't sleeping. We were working around the clock, studios, just whatever, clubs and the streets. I mean, I don't think the work ever,

I don't know, I just think we loved this so much. Yeah. And we were trying to chase. I don't know, what were you trying to chase? Like, what were you? Because you were working hard too. Yeah, I mean, for me, it was several things. I never wanted to misrepresent the way,

my, like the respect that I have for my family's name and face and respect amongst family and peers and friends of the family. I'm talking about like my parents, you know, like, you know, the pressure that we, we had from our parents to meet a certain standard is way different even though we still, everybody weren't the best for their kids, but, you know, our parents, they was, going to some fuck whatever you doing if we don't believe in it. You know what I'm saying? If we don't think that it's going to work,

it's not going to work. We're not even supporting or tolerating wasting time watching you do some shit that we don't think is going to work. But that was hard because it's like, well, it ain't your vision for it to work for you. It's my vision for it to work. for me and your support would be appreciated. But making sure that we understood how serious that respecting

of how hard they worked and make sure that they maintain the respect of the family was more important to me because letting them down wasn't an option. So even though they wasn't supportive of the vision that I had with this rap shit or with this music shit, I knew that there was no way that I was going to even allow there to be a plan B or failure being an option. Oh, so you're trying to prove to your parents that this is the right way to...

I'm not only just proving to them with the I told you so once it works. I'm proving to me that I was able to manifest something that wouldn't only be great for the respect of the family, but will allow me to add on to the respect of the family and a production. way because I'm able to continue to do the providing and the upkeeping and the maintenance of the integrity and the respect, which was big to my father. It's big to my moms. You know what I'm saying? Like in the house, you can't even respond to my parents with, like, if they call you

by name, it ain't no yeah or huh or what. Like, that shit. What do you say? Yes, man? Yes, ma'am. No mom. Yes, dad, no dad. Like you had to attach the mom and the dad acknowledgement to every response.

They want a good morning in the morning. Good morning, mommy. Love you, mommy. You need some help, Ma. Dad, you good? Dad, you want me to, whatever it was, that mom, dad was, acknowledgement is a respect thing. And it was serious.

So if you fucked around and slipped up and mom's, is calling you to go get something from her out of the kitchen. She in a bedroom on a call or some shit and she called you and you'd be like, yeah, you get one more time to respond correct. Or she's going to tell you to come to her. Pull up and you're going to get a box or a backhand that is going to rewire your whole way of thinking

in milliseconds. And that's the shit that I understood So it's like The shit that we was chasing Obviously started in the house With making sure that their respect And that show and proved that you was able to Hit them with the

I told you so this shit was going to work Mom and Dad But then once you accomplished that You know now you want to be out here Looking like You're the star that you've been talking about And been manifesting through your shit talk or through your

the way you move and the confidence that you exemplifying and you want to make sure that that shit that you're saying is word is barn. What I'm saying my word is bond. I'm going to do what I'm saying and I'm going to show you better than I can tell you that what I'm saying is factual.

What were you saying back then was going to happen? Like what was the dream that you were chasing? It was I was going to be successful in music. And when that happened, or I'm going to become a millionaire. And then when that happened, I'm going to make sure that I don't ever fuck this up and I'm going to evolve it into something

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to be one of the best currently, not just what with the yester years or the legacy. And yeah, we're going to celebrate that too because we earned that right to passage. But I'm always in the present. And I want to be the present in the present. Yeah, I totally get that. When did you, were you always confident? Was there ever a moment, like, when did you think, okay, I'm in my stride, I'm not turning back? Because for us, we were talking about you the other day because I hosted this, like, hip,

pop panel for Sprite. It was, you know, like Rob Markman. Yeah, I've seen that. And we were talking about the art of the guest appearance and you on scenario, how it was just such a standout moment. And then we were like kind of debating and discussing, like, did you kind of invent that moment? I definitely not only have been told, but then when you go back and you do the research, there's

artists that collab before me. Of course. Symphony and all types of, yeah. Of course. You know, but I don't think there was ever the, the MC before, I don't think that ever existed before me where the MC that was running around on, and getting on everybody's shit. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Like there was times where it was like five, six, eight records and albums that I was on at the same time. And interestingly, it was something that the labels kind of would push against and would create little issues about clearing. But then it was obvious that it was working in their favor because the buzz and the momentum that was being created behind all of these feature opportunities was ultimately benefiting the label that I was signed to because I'm in five, six videos. I'm buzzing. They ain't had to spend them video budgets. it's, you know, I'm getting paid for all of these verses.

They didn't really have to be the one that had to hear the phone call all the time. Nobody knows it's a great idea, unless they're super creative until it happens. Absolutely. So they used to running on the same system. You can't do that. You shouldn't do that. You shouldn't do until you do. And you're like, now it works for you.

All of a sudden, now everybody's on board. Yeah. And so that's when you're a leader, right? You deal with that shit all the time when you're a leader. Yeah. And the beautiful part about leading is just not being afraid to actually trailblaze. A lot of the times being first to do some shit also makes you the one that looks like the bozo for trying it if the shit fails.

Well, fuck you was going that route for. You should have stayed your ass over here and continued to move the way we all know how to move. But that's the gamble law. Without great risk, it ain't no great reward. But I didn't plan a lot of that shit, neither. You know, it was like all of them rhyming on a bunch of people's records was because I was fucked up. I was fucked up.

Oh, money-wise? Yeah, I was broke. I was fucked up. And people were paying you for each one of those. Yeah, but I was soliciting myself because I had the wave from scenario. And everybody wanted that dungeon dragon shit. But that wave also led to me getting kicked out of the group. So I couldn't even go to do the show money.

I couldn't collect that because if we was contracted as a group and the whole crew don't show up, we didn't breach a contract. So promoters was like, get out of here because all of y'all ain't here, you know. So I couldn't get none of that money. And I was the youngest one in the group, but the first one to have a child. So I had to find a way to provide. What were you in your first child? Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Yeah, I was 21.

And still in my mom's crib. And And trying to get to the money. No, but even what was more challenging was My mom's was seven-day, serious seven-day Adventist Christian at the time. So the mother of my child and my three sons today, her mother was angry that she got pregnant for me and was keeping it. So she put her out.

So I had to move her into my mother's house to live with me while I was still living at my mother's house. And my mom was on some, hey, this, what the fuck you think is going on here? You ain't no bastard kids living in my house. You better get married or engage. And you're 21? 21 without. Just starting your rap career. I ain't got no choice.

I'm not a bad. ready for none of this. Are you in love? Yeah, I definitely loved her at the time. And I love my baby. So did you get engaged? I did it. Yeah, because the respect for my mother is her house.

You never got married. Never been married in my life. Right. But I got engaged because that was the choice that had to be made for her to be able to live with me in my mother's house. Got it. And have my son in my house with me. and my fiancee at the time. But coming home to that and looking at them

and not having no group to get my money from was a different type of pressure because I'm facing it every day. You know what I'm saying? So I had to take advantage of this buzz that I had and was just constantly soliciting myself. Because I was going to fuck that out of sight out of mine shit. I got to put myself in people's mind while I'm already.

And you're not just fit through it versus. You're like murdering shit. I'm trying to take everybody's face off. So from scenario to scenario remix, it's like this motherfucker ain't hitting no base hits. Everything is just being smacked out the ballpark. And we just like... Does your life change in that moment in that time? Yeah.

Like, quickly because everybody wanted Buster Rounds. It was to the point where I was getting calls just to talk. You know, I'm on Mary's first album, and I'm super grateful to Mary for this day for even thinking in this way. You know, when I got the call, Mary was sizzling. You know what I'm saying? And 4-1-1 album and the Poo-Bah collabs and all of that. And Poo-Bah was hot too.

Fire. So, and, you know, Puba was like one of the emcees I looked up to. Yeah. Especially at that time. So I just started to feel like, damn, I'm starting to get calls where I'm now being included in this great company. And then it was, it was crazy to me that when Mary asked me to appear in 4-1-1 album, she didn't even want me to rhyme. You did the voice. I just talked.

Yeah. And then the same thing kind of happened with Missy on her first hour. I didn't really rhyme. I did like a little couple of bars, but it was more about the talk. Like, they wanted me to intro their projects. And I was like, this is some next shit. Like, I'm so on fire right now that I don't even got a rhyme on shit to be.

And then, you know, the flavor in your ears came and then. Oh, then you're finished. The train is off, the tracks. All the way off the tracks, man. And it just kept happening like that, you know? It's like, all I do is when. remix and so many other moments in between that. You know what's so crazy hearing this and then thinking about all the

eras of you and the woo ha's and the all the way to like even the Chris Brown join and the look at me now and like you just find a pocket almost in every era of from then to now. There's never been a slow point. And when I think about how long that's been and then I saw today that you have never been nominated for a Grammy. Is that right? No, I never won. You never won. How many times have been nominated? Twelve times. Never won a Grammy. Never won a Grammy.

In all these years. With all those moments. And especially so much, wasn't just big moments in records, but it's like innovative, shifting of like, you know what I mean? Like big moments.

Thank you. Where it felt like you were leading the charge of like, that the time when you and Missy were like changing what videos look like, making artists feel like, I want to spend a million dollars on my video too. Like, literally leading the charges to think.

You won video awards, though, right? Yes. Yes. Recently. Recently. Never back then? Not from MTV. My first VMA award, literally, I believe, I've received that last year.

Holy shit. I performed at the VMAs. We performed. I've won BET Awards for videos. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? But MTV. last year was my first time getting an award. That's wild.

Yeah. That's wild. Did that bother you? Were you somebody who chased that or cared about awards, things like that? I'm going to put it this way. I never chased anything other than to be successful and to be in the conversation of this small fucker was one of the most incredible to do this. That was more important to me than any award. But we always want and super appreciate.

the accolades that comes with acknowledgement. You know what I'm saying? It's like, it's almost like even if you don't receive an award for something, when you create and your name ain't on that credit, that's a big deal. And that's not about money. You get what I'm saying?

I do. It's about acknowledgement and respecting my contribution to the art. And what the difference would be in it if I did not contribute to this. as opposed to what it is because of my contribution. So that acknowledgement is always a rewarding feeling because, and that falls hand in hand with, you know, wanting to make sure that you was in the conversation

about being the best to ever do it or one of the most incredible. I wonder that for you if you get irritated. Because they love to leave you off a list. Yeah, but, you know, what they also love to do, is acknowledged me for being one of the crown holders of smacking the shit out of everybody when we get on these records together. Right. That's a constant conversation.

Of course it is, but I feel like there should be bigger conversations. You're right. And you're absolutely right. Yeah, absolutely right. Yeah. And I think those moments happen when a motherfucker could walk away from a moment that they experience or hear and be able to say, That verse Buster Rhymes just did

got me rethinking my top five. I love that talk because you could say the shit yourself. We always going to say we're the nicest. You're supposed to feel like that as an artist. Especially if you're passionate about the shit. I love it. But you can't make another motherfucker see it that way. So I just like to make a, I like to let motherfuckers see it.

Like, okay, cool. Let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's, let's, let's, I like to run towards what motherfuckers run from. From the booth to the stage to serious conversation. I love that. Yeah. So, you know. By the way, that stage presence, again, nobody ever front on that.

Thank you, Queen. I don't see people go down, like, big artists have to come on stage after you and it doesn't go well. It does not go well. I have witnessed it multiple times. Thank you, Queen. We're the poor artist who has to come on after Buster goes on at that stage. And I got a big of split from scratch a tour for that. For sure.

Chemistry is never the same way. I love your relationship with that. What is the key to that? That long-term friendship for you. I love how thoughtful you are about your answers. Yeah, like, like, I've had to learn to be able to tolerate even what I don't like. That's very real.

And it's the same vice versa because, you know, we all got our shortcomings, you know what I'm saying? But it's what I'm willing to tolerate that I don't like from attitude shit to sometimes the way we might speak to each other depending on what we're going through that day.

And when you put the shit on the balance, scale, does it outweigh the good? Does it outweigh the way we've been able to productively benefit from our friendship, even outside of business shit? And that's the good thing about the friendship and the brotherhood that I got was spliff and scratch it towards. Like, it's been consistent and it's evolved in a better way.

And I think the love is just genuine in the real. Respect is genuine. You know what I'm saying? It's like we've had times where we had to just separate for a second. There was a time where Spliff and me wasn't going on the road for like two years. Because you weren't getting along? Yeah, we just. Wow.

But a lot of those shows was happening overseas and people's, so nobody really ever felt that timeframe of us not being on the stage together. Wow. and can remember it. You know, rest in peace, DJ Rock Raider, but Rock Raider was my DJ until he passed away. Because me and Scratchitore wasn't rocking for a little while, neither. And when it was all said and done,

you know, not only did we realize, maybe the shit we was beefing about, wasn't really worth going to the extent of us, acting like we're not going to still be the doper shit when it comes to us three together and the friendship and the history and just what the magic is when we rock on that stage

or when we're making this music or when we're doing these videos or when we just building and being friends and coming to each other at crib and got the kids together and it's interesting when we say like we'll be on stage and sometimes we'll say this to people

Like, this shit that me and Scratchettor and Spliff Goddus brothers is the difference between teams and families. Because team players get traded and family is forever. And if the family is good family, it's truly going to be forever. So I salute my bros, man. They're important to the entire universe personally and professionally for me. We love to see it too I'm glad you guys work through whatever the fuck was going Me too

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And I'm super proud that I'm even with all of the beautiful acknowledgement, but like Hollywood star and second global icon award to ever receive it at the EMAs. next to Eminem and Lifetime Achievement Award with BET and, you know, a little Caribbean musical award. All of it was just happening. It's just happening at the same time. Flowers. And it's just continuing.

That's beautiful. You know, with that being said, you know, and even with you talking about the Grammys, it's like, you know, when I look at this time frame, all of that leading up to what I'm getting ready to do right now with this new project. and it's with Jay Diller, and the album is called Diligence 2. And the difference between Diligence 2 and Diligence 1 was this is a real album that is going to be,

the IPs are going to be properly monetized and the Diller estate is going to properly, all of the business was done properly. Yeah, because Diligence 1, you know, it was like a me and Mick Boogie mixtape. And it was something that we did to really pay homage to Dillard's legacy because he had passed in 2006. Wow. So we put that tape out in 2007, and that was 19 years ago, but it was just giving away for free. We wanted to correct that. So I'm like, I don't want to just do a couple of songs.

Let me do a album. And when the album got done, Madoose gave it her blessing. Ella J gave it his blessing. Dilla's two beautiful daughters gave it their blessing the estate executors and you know the lawyers and all of them

you know they've been very helpful in moving things forward so that we could facilitate completing this movement and Dilla with this being his 28 transition I got five album

anniversaries that I'm celebrating so it's leader's first album 35 years. Tribe first second album, Lowen Theory, 35 years with scenario, oh my God. The coming album, 30 years with Wuhar. Genesis album with Kavasi, and Breaking Nack, 25 years. Big Bang album, 20 years.

And then the Grammys is airing on Dilla's birthday. So are you about to get a Grammy? I'm claiming the divine. I want that for both of you. You know what I'm saying? How great would that be to be able to, like, with Dilla his legacy. Me and Dilla got an album that he wins

and I win Grammys for for the first time on his born day. Wow. It's just a divine alignment happening. So that speaks to when you was talking about how many times I got nominated and never won. If it's going to happen, it would be no crazier time than for it to happen now.

How do you explain Dilla, Dilla's importance or who he is to somebody? who maybe doesn't know young or maybe just somebody who missed the, miss the wave, or how do you explain his importance and his impact? I would definitely tell him that Diller is the most important piece as a producer ever to impact me and the way he made my spirit move out of every producer in this planet with Q-Tip with Dr. Dre. And that's not taken away from my other favorites,

which is like Pete Rock and large professor, you know, Primo. Like, they're the gods of this to me. Yeah. Right. But Q-Tip is the first one to impact my life as a producer. Dre, but then when Diller, something about that Diller, it just did something to me. So it, and I think a lot of people,

have experienced the difference between when I work with Diller and every other producer. Oh, Knott's another one that I hold in a very high regard. So big up to Knots. But I would tell that person that first, and then I would try to show them all of the different moments that I would suggest that they go to. Give me two, two or three. First of all, fall in love, Slum Village Fantastic Voyage Volume 2 album. Can't Keep Running Away, Racket, Fawcett. That's so good.

That was so good. Stakes is high, daylight. And for my own catalog, there's a song called, Show Me What You Got, Enjoy the Ride, so hardcore, can't hold a torture of me and Kamal.

I got too many for my own catalog, but that list is long. But yeah, those are like the joints that I would send or direct people to go in and just, just listen. And then after you listen, just go do a deep dive on,

just so you could look at him. There's so much footage of him and how he worked in his home basement studio in Detroit to how he worked with DiAngelo. Like this shit with DeAngelo and him that they did that is just crazy to me. It's like, how do you deal when you mentioned DeAngelo too?

It's like, and I'm glad you had them. I just wanted people who maybe didn't know to send them off on them. on a ride to go check out some Dilla stuff. But the fact that DeAngel's not here and Dilla's not here, I was thinking about Chris Lighty a lot as I'm getting ready for you to come in today. So much loss, Mr. C's birthday was yesterday.

There's so many people that we came up with that was so impactful and not just our lives, but culture in general that are not here anymore. How do you, I don't know, I have a hard time with it sometimes. I wonder how you manage. I have an incredibly hard time with it. Ananda Lewis. Ananda. You were close, huh?

Very close. Fat man's scoop. You know what I'm saying? It's very difficult because it's like it's starting to feel like it's getting a little too close. Like, you know, when we would hear about our superheroes and entertainment that would pass away when we was younger, that wasn't happening to our alumni like that. It did, but not the way it's been happening recently, which is a testament to the times in life that we're in now.

And it's rough. You can't prepare for those losses. You can't fully, I don't know if there's ever a full bounceback from when you experience the love of those relationships that meant so much to. you that void that they filled specifically in a way that nobody else could fill. So it's challenging and it's ill. I met DeAngelo and Dilla through Q-tip.

So for both of my brothers, did not be here. It's crazy because I'm doing this album with primarily the entire album is Dillard. of production, with the exception of, like, two songs. But I got a song with DeAngelo and myself and Dilla. On this album? On this album. Wow. It's called This Woman.

Sounds amazing. It's incredible. Sounds great. This woman with DeAngelo? Come on. Sounds great. Incredible. And you shot the video with hype, and this is the first time me in hype worked.

Wow, since back then. Yeah. Wow. So it's a lot of moments that was. I can't wait to see that. I can't wait to see that. Yeah. In the process of creating the work because it's like, it's now magic that the world never heard from relationships that were long, but two of the brothers ain't here.

But they are here through the music. So it's like. It's a challenging. Yeah, for sure. But it's still powerful. And I'm just grateful that, you know, I'm gifted with the opportunity to share that magic because I know that these two rubbers impacted the world in such a way that the world was hoping and looking forward

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replacement to try to understand what this longevity obsession is all about and what it really means to live forever for all of us. I learned about some rad science. I can make a brain for you and then we can test what draw is the best for your brain, as opposed to his brain. Here are some hard truths. I would expect Indians to age faster, but I did not expect it to be almost a four to five year acceleration. And get myself into a world of trouble. I'd say probably start bones smashing. That doesn't work.

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Each week, we talk to someone in show business, aka The Biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on his head, right? How about we flip this script? What is the surprise woman?

But actually you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird. Adam Scott, this entire time you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never expect. I would never set expectations for something like that to happen. If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it. I'm always going to accept. You know, Danny McBride, fine. Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity exuding.

I could smell it walking down the hallway, to be honest with you. I was like, I was like, is that weed? Nope, it's fragile masculinity. Ben Stiller, no. Because a lot of times, out of context, people don't get it or even know what a circle is. You know what I mean? They're like, oh, what's a state? Everyone's so dumb.

And fake. Right, fake and also not interested or just like, oh, I've got my life. I don't care about your life. And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we have a segment called Voice Notes. Presented by Bruce Mobile is usually a fan or a friend of the show or somebody has a question or comment.

Brittany's going to play it. A little voice note for you. Cool. Yo, Buster, what up, my brother? It's DJ Suss 1. been in the game a long time and you've been around some of the greatest legends of our hip hop culture. Has there ever been a conversation that you had with one of our hip hop legends that is not here anymore that you think about all the time that sits with you today and it has impacted you until today?

Huh. That's so funny. We were just talking about that. Yeah, that's crazy. If I'm just thinking off the top of my head, the most recent memory. That's a hard question. I'm thinking. It was just, are so many people that are no longer here. I always think about Mr. C because Mr. C. I was getting ready to say C. No way. Everything I stand for love and believe in. Because, and it's probably one of the most challenging times in my life.

But remember the situation that transpired around the, to touch a remix video? I do. Okay. When it started to get so out of control, and it felt like the whole planet, because for me, in that moment, moment, I was being blamed for things I had nothing to do with.

I was super confused. The police was excessive. The harassment, the surveillance, the arrest. Remember, after that, I went to jail like four times in 10 months. Jesus, bus. You don't remember seeing me constantly getting arrested? Yes, it's crazy that that's not my. my highlight real.

Yeah. But yes. It was a time. This whole moment and then dealing with legal shit, dealing with being banned from being able to even work in New York because I was now being considered a high risk artist. A lot of people at that time started to distance too. But C didn't.

I remember C hit me on the phone one day. and I was literally in the kitchen of my crab and Tribeca and C hit me on the phone one day and he was like, bus, understand something. As unfortunate as this situation is, make sure your faith is unwavered, bro.

Because as long as you ain't living with no guilt, this two shall pass, bro. And I needed to hear that serious, at that time because I was questioning all types of shit. You know what I'm saying? You were rocked. You were like, yeah, you were down. I was super rocked.

I never felt that level of being rocked before. Isn't that wild how you could be like, there's something somebody says in the moment of like, whatever, you're down, when you're down, it could be just one person with some kindness or with some, you can be all right or reminding you that, I don't know. Sometimes that's why I always say, like, tell people how you feel.

Do you try because you just never know somebody just needs that one thing to like remind them. Yeah. About themselves. Yeah. See was good for that. She was like you. See, we'll always tell people he loved them. Same way as you.

Yes. Love you, man. Love you, sis. Yeah. Yeah, we always get there from him. Yeah. Shout up Mr. C. We miss you, man.

Shout out to C. Shout out to D. Shout out to D'Anjalo. shout out Ananda, shout out Fat Man Scoop, shout out so many people, Fife Dogg. Fife, yeah. Like, so many, you know, and the list is longer. It's way longer, but, you know what I'm saying?

It's like, as we're speaking about them, you know, that's why I wanted to make sure I just said that. It just feels like I needed to say that. Mm-hmm. So you rely on your faith. Go back, remember your faith. You can't play with that. Yeah.

What kind of faith life, like? Like, what do you, how does that play in your life? Like, are you like somebody who prays a lot? Do you, um, church? Like, what is your, what is your ritual? What is your relationship? I have regular conversations with the most high. All day?

Now, I wouldn't say all day, but I prioritize having it at least once to twice a day, at least once. And I like to do it in the morning. Like before I, you know, if I got a lot of, I wake up and go to the bathroom or something. I used to be the type of person that had grabbed the phone right away. And I was like, there's something wrong with this. You grabbing the phone before you give thanks that you woke up is a little weird.

Yeah. You know, we get conditioned and programmed to do these things that sometimes we got to rethink what we prioritizing. So you get up in the morning, you get to the conversation. to that conversation immediately. Give thanks and talk about certain things that I want to deal with and improve and fix with myself and, you know, what I want to see, what I'm claiming, what I'm looking forward to manifesting,

not just for me, but for the people that I love. And I just didn't get the day started and I get to trying to execute what that conversation was. because you can't just say this shit and not believe it, not do it, not apply it, not manifested in a tangible way. And that ain't just physically touching it, spiritually feeling that evolution too.

You're believing what you're asking. Believing it, y'all. Gotta believe it. All of this shit we do in school ain't really give us the science on how to navigate this shit. We figured out something that we felt passionate about. We identified with it. We honed in on it.

We claimed it and then we manifested it. That ain't no man shit. That comes from something else. That once you align with that frequency and you identify with that divine thing and then you do your part and let the magic happen, that makes a big difference between who's the ones. and who's not. And, you know, I believe that everything that has transpired for all of us for so many years, that shit ain't no accident. That ain't no coincidence.

That ain't no... That's what I'm saying is... The current space in life is happy, man. Because we figured shit out. It's ill because that's what we started this conversation with. Figuring it out. We figured it out. We figured out a lot of shit.

What have you figured out? What are the keys? What can we share? What can we leave people with? What are the important things about longevity, success, and like you said, joy, happiness? That's figuring it out. If you can have longevity, success, joy, relationship with God or Mosai or whatever you connected to? God.

God. That's a pretty good life. I think the happy part comes at a certain time in your life. Okay, tell me, when do you get it? When do you find it? There's people starving for it right now, so help them. I think, you know, you got to go through love and hell in order for shit to turn out, right? Like, there's no way to avoid that part.

No, there ain't no shortcut. But you kind of get to a point. And again, I'm not sitting here saying that my shit is perfect. Nah, none of us exempt from the bullshit. We still got to deal with the bullshit. But I think for me, personally, when you first starting to get into this space where you feeling yourself, you're going to bump your head all types of ways, right? Then you evolve from that space and you get to a space where you learn from that shit

and you realize that feeling yourself should always be a part of who you are. And I'm not saying that in a way where you should compromise how you view yourself, but it still needs to be done within reason so that coexisting could be better for you, which then could help that experience be better. for others, which then helps you finally get to this place where the shit starts to feel so great with the changes that you've made to be better, not just for yourself, but for others, that you start to realize that it becomes a non-negotiable stipulation. What? Being happy, be feeling good?

The happiness and the joy and the better feeling that you get from evolving into this place that makes your coexistence feel better for you and for others. The results of that shit always feels better than just being on my own shit and feeling myself to the point where I don't give a fuck about how others feel or how I affect others. You've done that before, huh? For a long time.

Because you misconstrue what it is to prioritize your happiness, but your happiness ain't just about you. It should be prioritized as the first thing that you have on the list of things to do, because you can't give happiness if you ain't happy, but it ain't just about your happiness.

You gotta, I gotta be, it gotta be a collective happiness. Especially when you have kids. Do you think you're a good father? I think that, according to my kids and our beautiful relationship, even with some of the shortcomings,

I did a great job as a dad. Proud of my children, and I'm proud of how they love and they show me the respect and the love and the support that they've only received from how they was raised in our home. That's beautiful. It's the most amazing feeling in the world

because they constantly make it their business to remind me of that and make sure that I'm sure and I'm clear on that. And I definitely do the same with them because they are amazing. I mean, if you got that right, you did all right, but still you got a good career. Kids love you. I definitely, you know, I'm still trying to write some wrongs, you know. Like what? Or with the kids, you mean?

Or just like... Yeah, with the kids. And with life, you know, there's things that I've done that I still want to fix. And there's things that I still want to improve and there's things that I still want to I want to make sure that I get it all the way right before it's all set and done.

So everything is always a, every day is a work in progress, you know what I mean? But it's never going to be perfect across the board. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And as long as there is an opportunity with the people you love, especially, to be able to collect,

collectively figure out how to find a solution. That's the most amazing part to me. I'm going to do my little in real life questionnaires. Got you. What is something you had to forgive yourself for? I think I might have had moments where I've spoken to my father in ways that I never should have. And lived with that guilt for a long time. Did you ever get to make that right before he passed?

Yeah, I definitely got the chance to. Oh, thank God. But the thing that that took the, that made, that contributed to the turn that I made after he passed when I got super out of shape and fat and drinking and smoking and going through all of that shit was because for a long time, he wanted to make, make sure that I understood how important it was to make a lot of things right, not just with him. but with him and just like the family because some of us wasn't getting along and it was super important to him that we fixed that especially when he was going through his decline and he's so ill y'all like he created a scenario that made us have to come come together because we needed each other for it to work. So he even controlled the situation after he passed.

Best decision and worst decision you've ever made in real life. We'd be loyal to the wrong shit. You've done that, I take it. A lot of times. To what people? Primarily people. You know, people will use the loyalty component as a very manipulative device.

And you get caught up in that because, you know, we're conditioned to believe that it's loyalty over royalty. Death before this honor. Betrayal is the worst shit. But under what circumstances?

To what end? That's like ride to die. I'm so tired. I don't want to die. I don't want to die. And by the way, if you love me, you shouldn't want me to die either. It's a fact.

But you know, some of these things like, again, their terms. Yeah. And the perspectives to what those terms are, start to get managed within reason as we get to these different places in our lives. So I ain't so mad at the terms no more, but I get what you're saying.

I'm more mad at the way we subject ourselves to these terms. That's the thing that I think sometimes people don't learn how to do and get stuck in these time frames, time periods where those terms meant something completely different in your 20s, as opposed to what it means in your 30s, your 40s and years beyond that. Well, I'm glad you're prioritizing your happiness. You deserve it. Thank you so much, Queen. And congratulations on the new project. Thank you, Queen.

I hope you get a Grammy. Thank you, Queen. Anything you want people to know about it? Yeah, just know that this is a climate-shifting moment in the culture. And you don't need to hear that for me. I mean, experience it. The album is out now, Diligence, too. Jay Diller, Buster Rhymes, Buster Rhymes, Jay Diller.

I want big up all the artists that's on the album, too, because everybody that pulled up did such an amazing job. Amazing. Big up all of the producers. Big up the Diller estate. Big up the DeAngelo Estate. Big up all of the Leaf. legal team, big up the principal marketing and promotions team, Empire Distribution,

my managers, Mona Scott Young, A. Blitz, Big up my... Mona. We just had a great conversation with Mona. I just see it. Super dope, cowboys. Super dope. And, you know, you mentioned Chris, Mona and Chris, you know, they've been a part of my life, the majority of the run, the whole solo career run.

But yeah, so everybody enjoy that and love it and live with it. All right, let's end with an IRL bowl question and send you on your way, Boo. All right, cool. Whatever, just pick one, see. What do you hope people learn from you? I mean, if you ain't learned through this entire conversation in the consistent narrative, learn to prioritize your happiness over everything else. That is the way that I think you will be able to experience something that I am experiencing

that I can't even really find the right words for. But it's a beautiful feeling when you know that your happiness is really something that you control. Yeah. Keep being happy, Buster. That's Buster Rhyrime in real life. This is Guaster Rhymes in real life. Hey guys, thanks for watching. Make sure you subscribe, like, comment, and check out all of the other episodes we have on Angel Martinez, IRO podcast.

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