Joe and Jada - Angie Martinez IRL - Da Brat & Judy Dupart: Learning To Mix Business With Pleasure

Episode Date: February 27, 2026

Power couple Da Brat and Judy Dupart sit down with Angie Martinez to talk about what it's like as a black lesbian couple with ties to the hip hop community. Da Brat explains how she was hesitant to reveal her sexuality until she met Judy and then everything changed. Then, Da Brat and Judy talk about going through a surrogate for their first child. Finally, Angie asks "Couple Questions,” and Da Brat and Judy answer a fan's question about getting into business with your partner.Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://promo.boostmobile.com/webuilt...All lines provided by ‪Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Now they are wives and they are sharing their journey in their new book, The Way Love Goes. They are quoted as the unicorn in their relationship is not that they are black lesbians, but that they have found true love. Please welcome to Brad and Judy's. What up? What up? I know.

It's crazy. First of all, hi, guys. Hi. When was the last time I saw you? Oh, my God. I don't know. So me and your wife, we did a little song back in the day. We got ourselves a little Grammy nomination.

Yes. That little gold thing? I still have that. I don't know where that you did. Come on, Brett. Do you have a few of those you probably do? I don't know. They're like little coins or something.

You were a baby, though. You were like a little. firecracker running around the set. You was too. Yeah, I guess I was. We did the whole wardrobe thing. We had the brown and we had different, it was like, oh, Lord, we had different stylists and wardrobe. It was crazy.

It was chaos. It was good times. Yeah, we performed under MTV Awards. That was fun. That was challenging for me. That was challenging for all of us. I was in a Trojan outfit. That's right.

Yeah, it was challenging. It was challenging for you see. You never gave that vibe. Well, it was. You always gave the vibe that you had, like, you know, you were. You had that. That's how you got to be. Yeah.

You know. I was like, oh, shit. That's so scary. But it was history. Good moment in time. I was so shout out to Kim and Missy and everybody. Yes, absolutely. Beautiful moments.

Anyway, a lot has changed. Life has evolved. You still wrong? No, should I? Sometimes. My son always says that. He says that jokingly. And then I'm like, nobody wants.

It's ladies night. Nobody wants that. Nobody wants that. The butter pee, honey, got the sugar, got the spice. Rooney L's tight. You know, I just made this fuck up last night. I'm the rookie on this

on the South Star Team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We rock with you. I love that. You remember all the words to that. Thank you, man. What's up with you rhyming now in 2026?

Man, yeah, with music. I do a lot of music all the time, but you know shit is different. Yeah. The game is different. So I just feel like they don't appreciate it the way they used to.

And I'm not going to put out 10 songs a week. You know what I'm saying? I want to put out one or two, let them marinate, let people love them. It's just so different now. It's so fast. It's so fast. It's like depreciated almost.

But do you still appreciate the art of it? Like, do you still, like, are you like rhyming in your head? No, I don't be rhyming in my head. But when I get in the studio, I write, produce, yeah, like. She got music. Yeah, I won't put it out. I'm a writer. Why?

Why? I don't know. She got like 30, 40. Excuse me. How's it sounds? It's good. Yeah. Yeah.

And to imagine how long ago they did it, it's still good. Wow. She don't put it out. She's keeping them in the vault. I mean, yeah, when the time is right, I might license them or something, but just to put them out, I just feel like they're going to go away too quick. And I don't like that. How exciting that this book is coming out? That, I mean, how does this press run been?

I mean, you're sharing a lot of your... Yeah. She didn't like that. Yeah. No. Absolutely not. You know, I'm to my selfish, you know. Yeah.

Yeah. I was in the closet for a long time, being very private. Yeah, I'm saying? So, you know, it took my wife to bring some vulnerability out for me to actually show it because, you know. So before you met Judy, you had never considered coming out publicly? No. Is that because you just are a private person or because of- Because of that she wasn't cool back in a day?

I was thinking about that before. Yeah. People think now it's like, what's the big deal? Why wouldn't you? Even Dana, Latif. for the other day posted about her wife. Yes. And it was so...

It made me feel so good and so happy for her that she gets to talk about who she loves now because it just wasn't... It was against the rules back in the day for a female artist. You couldn't do that. You couldn't tell that. Remember, Ellen lost everything back in the day.

Wow, that's right. You know? So you could either choose that or your career or your life. Did you have that as a fear? In the beginning, I never cared because that was just the rule. Yeah. That was just what you did not do. You know, but I never really met anybody that made me want to be out loud, you know, that I thought I was in love a few times, but apparently not until I met this one because then I felt some feelings and some things that I had never felt before.

And it made me want to be like, fuck everybody. You know, I'm telling everybody. You're going to see this love. You're going to see this love. You're going to see how happy I am. Yeah. You know, when you hear stories of people like not living in their truth, there's a weight to that. I was a young youngster.

You know what I'm saying? It really wasn't, it wasn't amazingly kept secret either, by the way. I don't know if you know. We're kind of suspected. Right, right. I think anybody did dress like me and rap like me, everybody thought all of us were. Yeah. And some of us were not.

Some of those girls were not. Yeah, they thought I was when I was young because I wasn't bagging everything. And I was not. But she wasn't. Yeah. She was just a straight up tomboy. Yeah. So, you know.

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Her and her crew came to my hotel, so we met up. And then we went to Morrow's. And then we had rehearsal at the Essence Fest. And I just wanted to walk through the crowd holding her hand. I wanted her to sit that ass in my lap. You were in love. I was in love. And I wanted everybody to know, I didn't give a damn who.

My team was like, what is going on? When I grabbed her hand, my team grabbed each other's hands, and we all grabbed each other's hands like we was walking through the crowd. Like they did not know what to do When I sat her on my lap in the dressing room They immediately shut the door Because they're so used to like me not being like that For years, never being like that

Yeah So protecting that and protecting you But this one right here made me just want to be like I want people to see how happy I am And who's making me feel this way Yeah, what was the reaction Besides from your team freaking out a little bit Ain't anybody say shit to me

No Nobody's going to say shit to me Yeah But then how did you feel? I felt good. I was waiting on people to say something to me. So I could be like, mm-hmm. Because you were ready.

I was ready. Yeah, you were ready. Yeah. But that must be so freeing. It is. Nobody had ever made me feel ready. And I'm not knocking any of the previous things or whatever, but relationships. But apparently they just weren't what they should have been.

So what is the difference? When you find real love, when you find that type of love that makes you want to change your whole life. Girl, your body tells you, your spirit tells you, your butterflies tell you, your stomach tells you, you might have to shit or throw up. So romantic. Yeah. It's just so many different things. Like, you just feel it. You just feel a tingling and a burning in like your soul.

It's crazy. Because I was like, oh, my God, I never felt this before. This is something totally different. And I just want to, I just, child. But had you dated a lot? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, quite a bit.

Enough to know that this was different. Yeah. Yeah, she was still dating them when we first got together. Uh-oh. How'd that go for you? Hmm. I don't want to bring up a sore spot. It's okay.

It's in the book. We talk about it in the book. She just wasn't so forthcoming and honest. At the beginning? Mm-hmm. Because you probably used to living that way for a while, right? Yeah. All my life.

Well, she was cleaning up her mess. I left her alone, though. What do you mean? Yeah, she did. We were talking for a while. And I guess, you know, she said I ghosted her a few times and stuff so I said she had me fly to Atlanta didn't answer the phone

I didn't I was living in New Orleans she did it to me three times now three out of she wants to always say well it was actually eight in total that we were supposed to meet it was only three because we did meet up a few times we did so what was that about just you hadn't felt it yet you didn't realize she was the one yeah I did bad behavior she she was taking her sweet old time and getting rid of her baggage And I think it's because she is such a caring person.

She was trying to, you know, do it carefully and not hurt anybody too much and making sure everybody's situation was straight if she was financially taking care of them. Oh, wow. The whole thing. Oh, wow. Who do we just have here, B? We had Bumpy on the show. And somebody called it and asked them about, like, if she should be ready to be married.

And Bum B was like, the first thing you need to do is delete anybody's number. in your phone that your wife does not want in your phone. Your phone should be clear. You got to clear out your life before you make that step. It takes people time. It's not an easy transition. It's not. Did you almost lose her messing around?

I did. I did lose her. Yeah. We were kind of like dating and talking and stuff. And then I looked up and she was hugged up with some nigger on Instagram. And all you saw was the back of his head and her fucking fingering. It was all hung up behind him and stuff and her grinning from ear to air. I'm like, damn, why, you could have told me you was moving on?

I could have told her I was moving on, but she wasn't. She had me come to Atlanta and I answered the phone. And so she also did this thing that she said has nothing to do anybody she was dealing with. I could get her between certain hours and then after certain hours, it was either slow or no response. Tricky, tricky, tricky, tricky. Red flags. Whatever. Right.

You know, usually that means you live with somebody or you have a situation or, you know, you're just not available because you have. You're so committed to other things. So, but were you into her already? Like, was that breaking your heart? Or were you kind of like, this ain't, this isn't, this ain't it? I was into her. But I also was trying to, because she also is, it's like you had to peel some of her layers back. Well, first of all, I told her first.

I was like, I'm interested in you. So I approached her, right? You pursued her. Right. And with that being the case, I didn't know if she didn't know how to communicate that she had other stuff going on. If she didn't know how to communicate that, hey, she was into me, but not in that way. So I just, I continued to try to date her. But then once I got that kind of response, I was like, yeah, I don't, she got something going on.

She, I don't know what she got going on, especially since she was, like you say, she was in the closet. People didn't know her business. And I didn't tell her. I didn't tell her because I didn't want to lose her. Because you know, you tell some people, they'd be like, oh, hell, no, I'm not dealing with that shit. You know what I'm saying? So I didn't tell her. And that's the thing in the book.

Like, I should have told her. You know what I'm saying? So everybody that's in the relationship, or if you're in the beginning of your relationship, come clean with all your baggage. Tell them everything that they need to know and give them an option, you know, whether they want to stick around or not. But that's hard to do when you don't want to lose the person. Yeah. When you know you've never felt this way before and you don't want to lose them, you don't want to risk it. So I ain't tell her shit.

I was just trying to clean it up. Like, okay, look, I can't talk to you no mom. Like, it's over. You know, but it's not an easy thing to do. It took some time. It took some time. You broke a few hearts. Well, you know.

I got my messed with a little bit, too. Like, you know. Yeah. Heard you. Yeah. But you stuck it out. So what did you see? What was the thing?

What was the thing that attracted to you to her in the first place? So she is who she is. You know, so prior to that, she, so we were working together. I hired her to do like some kaleidoscope promo for me. And she started following me on social media. She would leave like little nice comments. She would be on my live and just, she just was nice. And I was like, is she being nice or is she being nice?

You know what I'm saying? First of all. So, and then we used to DM every now and then. So she just was nice. And then I was when I got, when she said we were, I was out here in Atlanta. I was doing this entrepreneurship tour. And she popped up there to surprise me. And she said, you know, she was like, less link later.

And I was like, okay. No, no, no, no. First of all, she was doing this Judy dropping knowledge tour. So I walk in this convention center. And it's like five, 10,000 people. And I'm like, okay, what the fuck do this lady do? What is going on here? You just thought she was like a cute girl who did?

No, I, I, they hired. me to do some stuff for kaleidoscope. So I just wanted to meet the owner. And maybe since I was in town and she was in town, we could do some more videos or something. So I stopped by to see her. Chada had me waiting in the front of a good 20, 30 minutes. I'm looking like, okay, I'm the brat.

And I'm sitting here waiting on this lady. But she was making her way through the crowd signing pictures and autographs. So she finally got to me. And it was so busy in the front. I was like, you know what? I'm going to the studio. Let's just link later. You know, I'm thinking, you know,

she's going to bring the camera crew. everybody and all these people. She was like, cool, okay, let's link later. So she gets to So-So-Deft to the studio and she's by herself. And she get out with this long, draping, ponytail, jewelry, nails, cute-ass outfit out of the car. And I'm like, where's your security of somebody? And so she said, I came by myself. I was like, okay. Now, she had her little gun with her. But still, like, in a studio, it could be. I did. It was cute. It could be a thousand niggas in the studio. You know what I'm saying?

It could have been a building that had 10 studios in it. You don't know where you come into in Atlanta. You don't just pull up by yourself. So anyway, she got in there and we just talking. And, you know, I'm not interested in her like that. I don't even know she like women. So we're talking and we're talking about the things we're interested in. We're talking about hair and making hair grow back in New Orleans and Chicago and Atlanta.

And we just having good conversation. And she goes, I'm interested in you. And I was like, excuse me, what? You turned all soft. It fucked me up really bad. Like, I was like, okay, get your cool together. My stomach started hurting, like, all kinds of things that I had never felt before. And I'm like, I'm thinking, how are you interested in me?

You like women? Like, you like me? It just threw me for a loop. I tried to, you know, drink some Hennessy, put the Hennessy cup to my mouth. It poured all over my shirt. Like I was really thrown off Like my equilibrium or something Was really fucked up

So I said okay I'm gonna roll a blunt I'm gonna be cool about this shit I roll a blunt The cherry I must didn't roll it tight enough The cherry fell off the blunt And burnt the couch Oh my God

I said you know what Okay this is not gonna work I was just fucked up after that Like nervous shy I could barely talk Like oh I didn't know what to do with myself So from there We started kind of like dating

And then that's when she said, that's when she said, I ghosted her. Because you were trying to figure out your life. You were trying to clean up your life. But I wasn't, you know, I didn't tell her. And I probably should have told her, but I didn't want to lose her. So are you, like, strict on your rules? Like, when you see red flags or things like that or something? I'm not going to say, because I didn't care that she was cleaning stuff up.

It was the mixed signals. Because when we, like, after we had our break and we decided to start again, she came clean and told me what it was. And I gave her time. I literally told her, get all that shit together. I'm not going to give you a year, but get all that shit together

while we're doing what we're doing because I didn't stop dating her while she was cleaning it up. I gave her time to clean it up. It's just so mature. Yeah, say it. After she did it, I was like, oh, I love that bitch. Right, we were in a car. I mushed her all in the head.

She mush me in my house. I was like, I was like, I'm so sorry. I don't give a fuck what you got going on. Get your shit together. You know, and we can make this work. I ain't going to wait for forever. And you believed she would. Yeah.

Yeah. She did. I didn't want to lose her again. Yeah. Because I had stalked her. When she got with that nigger and I saw her on Instagram, I was like, oh, hell no. So I'm texting her. She blocked me.

I'm texting her. She blocked me because the nigger had apparently seen our exchanges and was like, oh, hell no. He didn't want her talking to me. to me. And it's like she was with this thing whatever. Like, it seemed like it had to be like six months to a year, something like that. So, you know, I'm checking the page every day. I knew I had never felt like she made me feel. And I ain't want to lose that. You know what I'm saying? I'm checking the page every day. And then it's like, okay, every week because every day made me feel like, it ain't going to never damn happen. So I'm checking and I'm scrolling.

Finally, after like, damn, it had to be seven, eight months. I don't know. The niggas, pictures wasn't on the page no more. And I was like, oh, my God. That's my shot. That's my shot. I'm fin to get in the DMs because she had blocked my number. So I'm like, hey, how are you doing? Like, you're okay?

What's going on? How are you being? Like, you know, she was going through something in that situation because that nigger wasn't shit. Anyway. So it was meant for us to happen. Not saying it was meant for him to do what he did, but it, it, so. Something in our cards made us come back together.

I mean, clearly it was meant to me together. Yes. You were meant to me together. And now you've been married. How long? It's going to be four years on the 22nd. How exciting that is. I know.

Yeah, it doesn't even seem like that long. I know. How has marriage changed, you guys? You know what? I have to curve my temper. I've had to learn how to be more patient. I've learned a lot of things. Like, I got a lot to lose now.

whole family, a son, you know, I learned how to listen more, opposed to just responding to defend myself. This sounds like therapy has been involved. We had therapy a little bit. We don't do it now, but we did a couple times. We did when we was on the show. We did the show and we did it one or two times after. Yeah.

Yeah. We still have a lot of things we work in on. We are a work in progress. You know what I'm saying? We're a couple like any other. couple, any relationship. Shit ain't always sweet. You know what I'm saying?

But the people that read the book, the influencers and everybody, they love it. They can't put it down. They pick it up and they don't stop till it's done. What is the best lesson, like, about marriage that you've learned so far? The best lesson, one of our golden rules in the book is communication.

And I think you have to communicate with your partner because if you disagree about something, shit, you've got to find a happy medium. You know, Even if you don't agree all the way, you've got to find half that makes you happy and half that makes her happy and meet in the middle. Like, what's an example? You got to know what's an example?

You got to shut the fuck up sometimes. You know what I'm saying? And I used to be good for keeping you going. Like, I ain't shutting the fuck up. You shut the fuck up. But now I just shut the fuck up. She can have it. But that's two ways.

Same way. She can have it. Yeah, I think we agree to. You choose your battles. I feel like when you fight, y'all probably fight. No. You know what happens is I'm so mature now. Oh, my God.

When we fuss or have a disagreement, she'll raise her voice. And when she start raising her voice, I'll be like, bring it down. Because if both of us start yelling, it's not going to be good. So she will bring it down a notch. But then she'll take it to fuck back up. And then when she takes it back up, she'll walk away. Right, but I walk away to de-escalate. I'm not walking away to walk out of the conversation.

You know, I'd be like, I can't do this right now. Like, it's, it's not that I don't want to entertain you. It's just, this is about to be a screaming war, or we're going to say something we don't mean, or this isn't. Which we haven't done yet, by the way, and we won't. Right. I'm not in a place to be able to rationally talk to you about what we're talking about right now. So my mature action is to leave, but she's not. She hates that.

I think it's disrespectful and I think it's rude. Because if we're in a heated conversation and I'm, we sitting in the bed, disagreeing about something and you get up and walk out and you just left me sitting in the bed, where the fuck is you going? And then she'll go do, she compartmentalizes well.

So she'll go put this in a little compartmental. And go deal with some kaleidoscope stuff and, and be the CEO of the company. And you're sitting in the bed. And I'm sitting in the bed trying to figure out when we're going to resolve this situation. You know? And then I don't like going to bed mad.

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I don't like when we disagree and we don't resolve it. it. But sometimes we don't resolve it. And we need to do better at that. I'm a work in progress. And I told I I will work on it. I just tried not to, you know, I try not to be angry. If we're trying to resolve something and we really trying to come to a common ground, I know I can't

talk to you in that state. Yeah. Because bitch, I'm not, I'm not thinking rationally right now. Because right now, I won't cut you below your knees. Like, you know, when Cardi B says she go to hell, she go to hell, I go lower than it. And I never want to be like that. To the depths of hell. Absolutely. And she's never done that. And I won't. She's never said anything. Yes, so give her a break when she needs a minute to

cool all. Yeah, but then bring your ass back and we need to talk about it. Don't just forget about it all fucking day. Okay, at least this pillow talk it out before we go to sleep. Yeah. Come to some type of resolve. Don't just take your ass to sleep. She said that's fair.

Okay. Okay. Look at you guys working through things in real time. Yeah, in real life. Actually, I have some scenarios, relationship scenarios. Let's go through some of these. I thought they were pretty good. Because people can learn. Listen, everybody's trying to figure out how to do a relationship.

Yeah. Everybody's trying to. Nobody's perfect. And it's not easy. Nobody takes work. Nobody's perfect. Right. I have to find my cards.

Here we go. In real life, couple scenarios. One partner needs space after a long day. While the other feels disconnected without immediate quality time, who should adjust in that moment? The person who needs space or the person who feels disconnected? I think the person who feels disconnected. Because if a person needs space, they need space for a reason. Like if she needs space, it may be too clear her mind because she's got a lot of shit on her plate being the CEO of a company.

So then I feel like I need to just give her some space. and I can deal with my situation before we go to bed or when we lay down or whenever we can talk about it. Oh, look at you, compromise. Look at how cute y'all are. Okay, in real life, couple scenarios.

In real life, a couple notices, intimacy has slowed down, but neither person wants to make the first move because they don't want to feel rejected. Who should break the silence? Both of them. Both either. Right, because then even if you're not saying that, You can do little actions.

Yeah, you can touch that ass or stick your tongue in the mouth or ear. Yeah. Okay, whatever works. Yeah, make the move. I know that's not a hard thing. Make the move. Or maybe in some people's relationship, you know, like, example, if a woman just had a child or something, if she's just not for it, she might not just be for it.

Like emotionally, she might not be right. Right. Ormonally. Explain that to her partner and they kind of understand. and not be mad. You've got to have a little patience, especially if somebody just had a baby or something that serious. Yeah.

Yeah. One partner becomes more hands-on with parenting and the other one takes more financial responsibility and they both feel stretched. How do you decide what fairness looks like in that season? Like, how do you distribute, like, parenting or like... That's a good question. I think we kind of like that right now.

Mm-hmm. She is... I'd be mommy in my ass off. Really? Yeah. And I worked from home a lot. She'd be having to put out all these fires and stuff. Right. I'll actually be at home, but I'll be working. So I'm not present.

And then we should get a break. She'll come and play with us. Oh, yeah. And Stanky Man don't like me working. Oh, I would be in the middle of a Zoom. He'll close the computer. He don't care who I'm on a call with, who I'm on the Zoom with. He is going to, he's going to close my computer or take my phone. Yes. He takes mine too and sits it down. Like, yeah.

Yeah. But she is. more mommy. The active. Now we both are. Yeah. But you feel no way about that? Does that ever feel

no, you're okay with that role? No, I'm actually, because I'm present. It's not like I'm missing. I'm present. And I might even be in the room. Like, we're all in the room and we're all doing the thing, but I might have my computer out

doing something. And then, or if it's something that I feel like, oh, this is important, hey guys, I'm going to have to pick this up in a few. let me call you bag. I want to get back to these because some of these are that good.

But going back to that, because I know you talk about that in the book, too, the moment of you deciding that you were going to carry the baby. And you were like, why me? Right. Why did you think her? I didn't mind, and I told her that.

I didn't care if I did it or not, but I know the person that she is. You know her well enough. You know she's the most nurturing person you'll meet in your whole entire life. Fucking them a swag. Fucking him a swag. So I knew she was going to enjoy the experience to the fullest.

Because you had already had done it. Yeah. Yep. Had done it three times. So it was for the experience you wanted her to have. Absolutely. Absolutely. And she did exactly what I wished for.

She enjoyed every second of it. I didn't have a bad pregnancy at all. No, she didn't have morning sickness. She didn't have none of that. No pains. My ankles swirled up a little bit, but I thought that was cute. And my toes kind of was like Vienna sausages. Right.

She had a scheduled C-section, so she never experienced labor pains. My stomach just got big and tight. But other than that, you know, learning all the things that pregnant women go through. And I had so many questions. Like I told my wife one time, my tithies are not getting no milk. I'm not drinking enough milk. We got to get some more milk in the house. I got to keep drinking milk.

Because I thought from drinking milk, your tities get milk. I know. It's stupid. Like, if you don't know, if you've never been a parent, you don't understand. She liked it from when we first saw the little seed. to when you got to see it as a certain size and when the baby first kicked, all of the things, she

thoroughly enjoyed it. I did. And she wouldn't change, and that is, that's our child together, but that's her son. Child. I know. I carry him. You know, my eggs was fried. We used her eggs and a donor and, you know, being able to carry him, it was

just everything. Why were your eggs fried? Because I'm old, bitch. Yeah, they'd be gone. At a certain age, they go. He's still like a baby, No, you know, in your 40, they go. How old were you when you were 49 when you carried? Oh, you were 49 when you carried. Got it.

So you had eggs. Yeah. You were like, let me get one of those. Yeah. Let's mix them things up and cook this thing. And then people had so many opinions about the complexion of your baby or the color of your baby. Girl, I don't give a fuck about what the...

She is the one that gave a fuck. I don't give a fuck about what them people say. We had to make a decision. So it wasn't that I gave a fuck. I think the missing. thing in the storyline was what actually happened. What actually happened, you have to do genetic testing. And when you do genetic testing, it shows all of the things that I am a carrier of. And so when it showed all of the things that I am a carrier of, and we put that in the sperm banks

thing, the registrants for black people went to zero. It did. Wow. People don't realize that black men don't donate as much sperm as the rest of the racist. So our chances of getting a black donor heightened our chances of our baby having an illness. So it was like there was no choice.

But they picked up the sound bite of her fucking ass. I don't want her to repeat it, but she just was on our show. We were scrolling. And you know for the show you do stuff. So we were scrolling. This was before we did the genetic input. She was scrolling and she was giving

her opinion about the looks of different people and they caught the clip of one specific person that she talked about and they made it as if she was saying that about everybody and she wasn't. Right. So it's not, again, it's not that I care what people say. I just wanted the truth out. I wanted the facts out. I didn't want it to just be, we chose this way because we didn't want that way. No, we chose that way because we had to.

We didn't have an option. Yeah. Right. I literally went on social media and I uploaded my genetic. And I said, y'all can take that shit, go plug it in. Go on any sperm bank right now and plug all that shit in and tell me what you're fine. See, that's too much. Yeah, you know with that.

Fuck them people. Yeah. Right. They don't know shit about us. They don't know shit about it. Fuck them people. Okay? It's about what makes us happy.

Me and my family and what we're going to do. It was wishing death on our baby. Absolutely. Fuck them people. Right. So when that was had, I was like, nah. And my wife is pregnant. And my wife was very much.

Why she's convicted telling. Right. That too. And please. She's a shooter too. Uh-uh. Y'all doing too much. Y'all doing it too fucking much right now.

Aw. We didn't take none of your joy away, right? It didn't. It didn't take none of my joy away. Because I don't look at it. I don't look at that shit. I don't read the laws of stuff like that. What will you teach your baby about race about that?

Because they are not to come. He's going to have to come into a world where that exists. Yeah, we're just going to tell them. We're going to just keep it 100 with them and tell him and explain everything to him that he needs to know, you know what I'm saying, so that he understands everything and when people come to him anyway, sideways, or things go left, he'll be prepared to answer all of those questions. He's going to know who he is, where he's from, why he's. Yeah, he's from New Orleans, by the way. He's from Chicago. He's from the Orleans. He's from

Chicago. I'm not doing this question. He was born in Atlanta, but I'm from Chicago. So he's from Chicago. You guys should figure this out. Yeah, he's from Chicago. He's from the Orleans. Yeah. He's going to love playing in the snow and stuff, you know, Chicago. And he's going to eat crawfish. No, the fuck he not. Yes, he is. I don't want him eating them little animals.

He's going to love cruffish. It's too much work you have to do. I'm going to get it out for. And then you suck the ass of an animal. It's not the ass. That's a head. You got to take the guts out of the cars and all this stuff and then go for the littlest people that don't even satisfy your appetite.

All right. At least get a crab leg. What is your hope for this book? Like, what do you think want people to get? from it. Learn from it. Learn from your relationship and your story. That it's never too late for love.

It's okay to give second chances. It comes to you and you're not looking. Facts. If you've been hurt, don't project that on somebody else. Like, give yourself time to heal. Yeah, because she don't let me talk to my exes. We don't. It's not yet.

Where did that come from? Because you were saying, you know, past relationships and you know how did she just related it on purpose I just said that because you know

a past relationship she had something happened with her ex talking to their ex-tribus so we don't do the she don't like you know

but that's the thing no you know people usually don't talk to their exes like that's the thing is it you talk to your ex in a relationship

not in a flirting way but I feel like you don't leave the door open for the just in case so you don't let me still right but yeah every now and it correct

Right, for those reasons. But if you don't have any reason to keep in touch with them, you don't have to keep in touch with them. Not like, hey, how you doing checking on you? You don't want to, hey, how you do it? I mean, because that can eventually turn into a, hey, boo, what's up? Or, you know, damn, I'm sad I don't get a chance at it or whatever because you just don't. You know, I would never do that. No, not saying you.

Okay. If you leave an open line of communication with somebody else and they're having a hard time and they think of you first, I feel like you just don't leave that door open for that. even to be a thing. Like, don't even leave the door open for the disrespectful communication, even try to happen. And please don't, because I wouldn't play with her. Listen, this lady texts her ex about her pretty feet. Is this recently?

No. This was in the beginning. This was in the beginning. And it was when we first started, when we first started dating, it was some of the cleanup that she had going on. And so this is supposed to be cleaned up and the lady sending her picture of her feet and she said, oh, those are pretty. Ugh.

What is this? I thought this was done. Well, because my first thing was, why are you even still talking to her? Now, see, because this is a recent X then. Why are y'all still talking? What y'all got to talk about? What is that to talk about?

Her feet? Oh, no. Absolutely not. This is why you can't talk to nobody. Okay. Just don't talk to nobody. We have each other's, we have the same pin numbers across all of our phones. Do you have like an open?

There's nothing to hot. Oh, yeah. We have my pass code is her past code. So, yes. Now, that still is privacy, though, right? So my birthday is coming up, right? So if I know that something like that's coming up, I'm not going to go on her phone like that. Because I know she's probably trying to plan something, whatever.

I'm not going to ruin any surprise. or anything like that. But, yeah, I could... But if you need to make a call and her phone is there, you can't pick up her phone. Or even if I wanted to go and I wanted to...

On my Instagram or, yeah, any of that. Right. Because she used social media sometimes and I like that, so I'll be going in there for and doing the shit. And you... You scrolling to the DMs?

Sometimes. I told her, though. I deleted one recently because who the fuck was she talking to? I wouldn't talk to them. No, not you. I'm talking to the person that was... to say.

I don't even look in my DMs. Like what? I look in them like, if I don't have a person's number, this is a celebrity or my friend to communicate to them through there and be like, I see me a phone number. No, I know, but I look through a DM. Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet, Florida's Sports Book.

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So we have a segment to voice note. It's either a question or a comment, usually from a, you know, a listener of the podcast. So who is this person? We have a name. Tierra. So this is for you. Guys. Okay.

Hi, Brett and Judy. My partner and I want to start a business together. But I'm scared that if we break up, then everything might follow. apart. I don't want the relationship to cause us success, and I don't want success to cause us the relationship. How do you decide if it's worth the risk to go into business with your partner? We have been able to be successful in business because of our setup. And that's because, like, in the house, so she loves the domesticated. of it, right? She loves, like, I don't have to take out the trash. I don't have to wash any dishes. I don't have to, I don't know when the housekeepers are coming. She handles all of that. I handle all of the business side of it and the money. So when it comes to stuff like that, business for us was my decision. So it's whatever I have the capacity to do and she supports it. So even when it comes down to her hair collection, I brought the stuff to her. I brought a finished product to her. I brought a finished product to her. I brought. I

I bought a finished idea to her, let her do her input, but I carry the load of what that looks like. When it came to the book, even down to, hey, we should do the tour, all of that. She's going to show up, but she's not doing the logistics. She's not doing none of that. So I'm saying that to say, because I've also had a business with somebody in the past as well. And it don't always work successful like this one. I think the only reason it works successful this time is. It's because she lets me lead it, and I like to do it.

So I think the struggle that happens in relationships is a person might feel like they don't want to spend this much on this, or they don't want to have to do this kind of work, or they don't want to have to do, because even down to her, when it came to the tour, she said, we're doing what? You want me to be away from my son for how long? No. You know, so I don't think it's a bad idea. I can tell you that it's very risky. It is risky. And I would never make, because I don't sell people's dreams,

are very transparent. I was only worked because of our setup. Because you have clear roles. Correct. She's willing to do it. Just don't make her do the logistics as long as I'm carrying the logistics. And that works for us. Because I've never had to do all of that shit.

I just got to do what I got to do. Because you are artists. Right, right, exactly. Since a little, since a kid. Since a kid. I know that. I don't handle the finances. I don't handle none of that shit.

What's a routing number? That's the thing. See, because she hasn't ever had to do that. Yeah. So it actually works for you guys. Correct. Because you don't have to compromise how you do it. Correct. You can just handle it.

Right. And then if I ever have an issue of questions, I didn't call the person that handles stuff. Yeah. Thanks for your question, by the way, Tierra. But you also said this, you said even as a married couple when you're collaborating on business, that it's important to keep paperwork in order.

Correct. What does that mean? So when we did her Collidescope by the Bradman line For Braves and Lox. I made sure she had a license and deal. Right. Even though it's...

I didn't want one because I felt like whatever she makes, whatever I make, it's all together anyway. No, I wanted her to have her specific income off of it. I wanted her, I wanted to make sure that every single thing that we sold with her face and her likeness on it,

she got residual. She got money off of it. whether because, you know, the company, we're married, but the company is, I don't want her to feel like she's obligated to have to give me anything, you know, so this is, by the book, she needs to sign the papers and make sure that she was getting her just due. Yeah. That's so sweet.

She's looking out for you. I know. Right. But you said that you shouldn't just go into blind trust of your partner, that you should have paperwork. Correct. has clear lines and clear, right. Correct.

You have no opinion on this, do you? This is all her, right? Because I just feel like whatever I have is hers. We just share everything, period. I feel like we didn't need paperwork. If it was coming in from my face for kaleidoscope, then it was just coming into kaleidoscope. You just blindly trust her.

I don't care, yeah. But then the revenue needed to be sorted a certain kind of way. You know what I'm saying? I wanted to make sure that she got per quarter, she got her earnings. So she also was able to know her earning potential because whether it was me or whether it was somebody else, she made millions.

Yeah. Her portion. Yeah. It was just went into the millions of the pot with the kaleidoscope stuff and recycled and did whatever had to do. It's just her. I do.

Right. See, on the other side of it, kaleidoscope is a business. It's its own entity. She needed to have something from that. Yeah. Instead of it just being a part of the revenue that's going to go into a lot,

item for the budget. No, that's, that's royalty. But I didn't mind that. Are there any rules? Like she asked the question, how do you know, like when is it good? Like, when should a, do you advise it? Do you recommend in relationships to be in business? I think like-minded people probably could get away with it or people that are in a

situation like this where they're different, but one of them is strong in one thing and the other one is strong and the other thing. You know, as long as the strengths don't. By the way, any business partner, that's a better fit anyway. So whether you're in a relationship or not, you should probably just decide if your good business partner separate from good relationship partners. Right, because the strengths also can't outweigh each other.

Like, it can't be, hey, this person is strong at making the place pretty, and this person is strong at logistics, the cooking, and you all got a restaurant, the cooking, the higher, and it is. It still should be where it's fair. Because then when somebody's burned out, they don't want to do it. And holding all the weight. Yeah. Yeah.

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Like a bucket list thing. I don't have a bucket list. She don't. we talk about that. I would like to work with Anderson Pack. Okay. Oh, that's cute. Yeah, I would like to do a whole project with Anderson Pack.

Wow. Yeah, I think he's amazing. I would like to have more time with my family. That's a goal of mine. I would like to not have to be so, so hands-on on my business every day. So I would love to just build a strong enough team to not be as taken away. That's funny because when you were talking about that before, it seemed like it didn't bother you, but it probably does bother you sometimes.

Before we had a baby, I told her that I was really working hard to make sure that once he came, I could be more present than I was in the past. But you were in Mom Young, right? Yeah, first 15. 15, 17, 19. I can't imagine. You know what, that's so inspiring that you were able, because that could have taken a lot of people down. Like, how do you even?

And she got put out. What do you mean? She got put out the house. That's 17. That's 17. So you're 17, at that point you have, what, two kids? Yep. Well, I said I was pregnant.

You were pregnant. I got put off from getting pregnant again. For your second. And where did you go? I moved there with my baby daddy. How did that go? It didn't work, right? Yeah.

It didn't work. But, I mean, it wasn't supposed to. Yeah, it wasn't supposed to. I believe that. Yeah, it wasn't supposed to. But how inspiring, though, because, you know, it's hard. It's hard to even do that, just do that part of life. Yeah, being a single mother.

Being a single mother with them kids, that young, still probably learning who you are. Yeah. You don't even have a grasp of who you are at 15 or 17. Yeah, I say that. So I feel like, according to the world standards, I shouldn't be where I am. According to the world standards. But I also feel like adversity builds you and builds your character. Like, I'm a Hurricane Katrina survivor, you know.

So I've experienced the loss of every year. and having to figure out how to get it back. So I feel like those skills of having to be a mother, figuring out for my family, lose everything, get it back, makes you feel like anything is possible, and you don't be scared to take risks. Because what's the worst that could happen? I don't lost everything before.

Yeah. I don't like that shit. I don't like gambling and taking risks. Were you and Katrina with your kids? Were you in New Orleans or in Katrina with your kids? I was in New Orleans with my children. with my children when Katrina happened. We evacuated, though.

I can't. Oh, so you weren't. I was in, you evacuated all of New Orleans? We, so, there was a hurricane that happened right before Katrina. And so I think a lot of people don't take it to account that in order for you to evacuate, you have to have money. And you have to have money and be away from your job.

You have to lose money and have money. So a lot of New Orleans had, just evacuated for the hurricane that came before. So when it was time to evacuate again, because the first one that we evacuated before, and shit happened. Like, people were taking their furniture and everything. So then when the second one came,

a lot of people stayed because they had just depleted what they had the first time. So we evacuated, but we evacuated very late. So we made it, I think it was like, I don't know, the Sunday before. Wow. And I had joint custody with my, kids. So my... But you're a single mother at the time, right? Yeah. And so my children's father

had my boys. And then my daughter was at the time at my mom's house spending the weekend. And so, hey, where y'all going? We're just going to meet up later. You know, it's just like, because we thought we was leaving and coming right back because we had just did that. So he had it, He was heading to, I think, Atlanta. And my mom and them were heading to a different part of Louisiana that wasn't supposed to be impacted. And then, you know, once you realize you're not going back, like once you realize, oh, this ain't a, you know,

because then even the bags that you packed were far lighter because you had just packed your whole house before. So now you packed a weekend bag. I didn't realize that. Yeah. Yeah. So it took everything. Yeah.

The second one. Katrina took everything. And you packed later because you thought it was bullshit because the person was easy. Everybody did, though. That's why a lot of people stayed. A lot of people felt like, well, why did all those people stay? The motherfuckers had just left. We had just left.

I remember packing up even furniture and putting it in one of those U-Hauls you connect to the back of the thing. But then, bitch, I'm not about do that again. Are we not about to go through? We just went through this, you know. What did you do when you realized it was bad? I was, I think the thing that killed me, and it still made me emotional, I couldn't get in touch with my kids. Like, the phones were fucked up.

Like, my baby daddy had my boys, and I don't know where they went. I didn't know if they had baited out. And so it was days that passed. And then they finally called me, and I would never forget, I dropped to my knees. Because I was just so thankful because the direction that he was going in, which he wound up pivoting and diverting, got water. So I thought that they had went somewhere that had gotten water, but they didn't. So I convinced him, I'll never forget this, because we weren't in a relationship.

But, you know, a mom got to do what mom got to do. I told him, well, hey, if you come to Houston, maybe we can work on our relationship. Wow. She just wanted her boys. I wanted my children. Wow. And I kept my word. We tried.

Yeah, maybe the game two hours. She ain't shit. She ain't shit. But, yeah. So. Oh, my God. But evacuated. I had to start over.

You did what you had to do. Yeah. And at the time, I actually was saving up for a salon. So I had some money. It had like, I don't know, probably 5,000. I might have had maybe like $2,300. between $2,000 to $5,000. So I had enough for us to survive for a while,

but I didn't qualify for a lot of those things. I was living with my mom. So you had to have an address that nobody else had claimed to qualify for a lot of things. And since it was my mom's residential address, I didn't even try to apply for half of the things because I didn't want my mom to be impacted. Right.

So I just... So you were left with nothing. Yeah, but that's fine because I had a skill. So I snuck back into New Orleans Before we were supposed to And it just so happened At the salon I was working there It didn't take a lot of water

So I snuck back into New Orleans I got the pictures of my Because I used to do hair Got my photo book And I went back to Houston Because that's where A lot of people from New Orleans were And they got their FEMA checks

And I went in the most Ratchet mall out there It was called Sharpside Mall I moved around Sharpstown Mall And I put out flyers I went to Kinkos And I made flyers of the hairstyles that I did, and it was New Orleans hair styles.

It was, I would write New Orleans and people hair, and like, I did these big old, like, the things that New Orleans girls were used to. So I knew that there would be a demand for that, right? So I put out flyers, walked them all, and I wound up started getting clients. So I started working. Right away, right after Katrina. Probably, it was less than two weeks. Wow.

Yeah, it was less than, yeah, absolutely. Isn't it crazy women still want to get their hair done? Your house could be going. You can rebuild in your life, but you still want to get your hair done. You want a sense enormacy. So if where I'm at, the food don't taste the same, this ain't the same, that ain't the same, I at least want to look the same. I don't want to have to change all of that.

So I was able to get clients, and then eventually people started going back to New Orleans, and the girls in New Orleans were needing me more than the girls in Houston. So I was traveling to New Orleans and staying there for three or four days. And then I was just like, I need to go back because this is the only. make no sense to stay out here and they need me more out there and eventually I went back. Wow. So, but I said surviving, losing everything makes you feel like anything is possible. And you don't be scared to take a risk.

Oh, that's good. Because a lot of people's fear is what stops them from trying their dreams, pushing past their boundaries. Right. It's almost like you have to have a traumatic experience of losing everything to know it's not that scary. So after you've been through something like that, and it's not just Hurricane Katrina survivors,

but anybody that's, you know, because I think did New York have something where there was like some water or something? Yeah, we've had storms and... Right. We had 9-11. Exactly. So when you lose everything,

you just know that... Yeah. You have to rebuild your life. Yeah. And it's not that it's impossible. Yeah. You just do it. Yeah.

You don't stop. No wonder you love her. See, can't you see? What you do to me? Oh, my God. Yes. She started talking to that shit right there. You were like, oh, my God.

Yeah. I love her. I love her. I love her from her toe next to her hair problems. I want her to do everything in life that she wants to do. I think that's the thing that we haven't aligned on. Like when we first started doing life and I'm like, hey, this is going to be, you know, it's going to be a ride. It's going to be a roller coaster.

You know, if there's anything you can, if there's anything you want in life, life, I feel like you can attain it. So as I'm doing my goals, I'm like, well, what does she want? Let's make sure that we, you know, and she's just like, whatever you like. I hate when you do that shit. You make me feel like the bitch from coming to America. What's how about you like? No.

No, that's everything, whether that's vacation, even down to what kind of business? Like, I was like, do you want a restaurant? Like, what do you, like, we, you have, you have income coming in. You have things we can be doing. What do you want to do? I don't care. What do you want? And she just like...

I live my life every day for that day. I don't... Whatever she want to do, I'll do. I want to do. Whatever she want to eat, I'll eat everything. I don't care. Like if she wants to go somewhere, I've been everywhere. I'm an artist.

I've been to London, Paris, Antiguan, Japan, Africa, all of that shit. There's nothing that I want to do in life. Like, I don't have a bucket list. I want to jump out of a plane. I don't want to go to whoever. Like, I've done all of that. I just want to be a great wife and a great mommy and be with my family. And whatever my wife wants to do that she hasn't done, I want to do that with her.

Like, I don't care about things like that. Like, there's nothing that I want to do. Or no place I want to go. Like, oh, it's beautiful. I want to go there. I don't care about that. I've been every fucking way. But if she wants to go.

But if she want to go, I'm going with her. And I want to make her have a good time. Come on, guys. What? That's so cute. She'd be wanting me to say what I'm like, I don't care what we eat. She'd be like, make a deced yet! Okay, let's eat oxtails.

Fuck it. I don't know. And then she might not want oxtails. That's why I said, you decide. No, but if you say oxtails, I eat it. I know. What are you two going to be like, Lord willing, gives you a long full life? Like, what are you two as old?

older women going to be like. She is going to be looking out the window every day at our neighbors wondering what they're doing. Am I nosy, bitch? No, you're not nosy. That's you just, you so, because she cares about everybody. And not like nosy, but she cares if she found out that something happened, if you had foot surgery and you posted somebody, she might text you randomly and say, hey, I'm just checking on you.

Is everything okay? Do you need anything? I see you have foot surgery. I can send groceries to you. Like, that's just who she is, right? So that's how she is and who she is, and that's who she going to be. She'll be taking care of the neighborhood. I'm going to be taking care of her, and we're going to be taking care of each other just like we do now.

And having our son come take care of us. Girl. How have your kids adjusted to your new family? My kids, okay. I ain't going to say they don't care. My kid, I raised them to love first. So when it came to us actually having true, I told them, they were, my youngest son was like, I've been on the brother. And I'm like, okay, well, now you get one.

But a long time ago, I'm like, all right, whatever, but they don't, they love him, but they don't, you know. I feel like this generation of kids right now at that age, I have a 27, 25, 26. I feel like something like that I feel like it's three of them and they're somewhere in there I feel like They do their own thing

Right they have their own lives Right one of them live with us So we don't We see them sometimes Right Her daughter lives in New Orleans With her grandbaby Because they're grown, they all grown

Yeah Yeah we have a grandbaby I have a grandbaby And her and True play together like That's funny They best friends Because what she's five And she's five

And he's her uncle Right But they run around the house and they just have a ball. I'm talking about they fall asleep with each other. And it makes her cry and want to have another baby. When it's time for my grandbaby to go. But yeah, they love him. You know, my nerves.

In real life, what are you most proud of about yourselves and each other? Oh, about myself. The thing that I'm most proud of for myself is I did a Judy drop of knowledge tour some years ago and I was able to teach over 20,000 people entrepreneurship, but in that time, over 5,000 people gave their life to Christ. Wow. Because I held it in churches intentionally. So that was like a mega, you know, like, you know, how you can give the word. That was like I was able to do.

that many people in a short amount of time. So that I am super successful for, I mean, I feel super successful. Super proud, yeah. I think I'm proud that I'm the first female rapper to ever sell a million records. Yeah, because I didn't plan that. I just wanted to be a rapper and wanted a world to know me and sing my songs. History. History.

I'm proud to be a part of history and be in museums and stuff like that. People call me like, yo, you in the museum? I'd be so excited. They're like, wow, I'm in museums. You know, so thanks to J.D. for that, too. Yeah, I love J.D. Yeah, me too. What about for each other or together in this season of your life?

People get to witness this, learn from you. You're sharing so much in your book. Yeah. I'm sure there's people that feel seen by you guys sharing so openly and honestly. Like, I don't know. I'm sure that means something to you. I'm just curious. Yeah, so I don't know how to answer that question.

As far as what I'm most proud of for her. No, I think together. What should you do with the work you guys are doing now? I think how you're showing up in the world now. Yeah, I think we should be proud that we had a successful reality show that helped people. That we have a great relationship. You know what I mean? Like we talk to each other.

We're still a work in progress, but we're still here. And we are still in love with each other. And we love our child. And, you know, we go through situations, but we know how to get through them. You know what I mean? We're adults. We two grown bitches just living the life and being happy. And, you know, we go through things and we're still here and we love each other.

So good. It's Brad and Judy in real life. Wait, before you go, my last question, it's in the bowl. It's one of my favorites we ask everybody. If God would have text you right now, what would he say? Oh, honestly, if he would have texted me, he would tell me, get back focus on my purpose. Which is?

I feel like he gave me this platform and all of these things to continue to show people how anything is possible as long as you have faith. You can have faith of the mustard seed actually carry around the mustard seed. You have an actual mustard seed?

Yeah, it's in my purse. I do. I'm going to give you one. I would love that. Okay. Yeah. I could use one. Yeah. I think that's the thing. I think right now I've been trying to troubleshoot and fix so many things that it's become more about numbers and logistics than it's become about purpose.

So your profit is never supposed to oversee or outweigh your purpose. That's good. I got to follow that. Oh, I'm sorry. And so the text would say, get back focus on your purpose. Mine, I think, by the way, in you even saying that, Yeah. Refocused you.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you just offered me a mustard seed. Okay. I don't know how much more in your purpose you're supposed to be. You know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah.

Right. Gee, don't look at me after that. Come on. What's you got? What does God going to text you? I think God would tell me to go to church more and to focus on my music more and do what I really love doing, no matter who, no matter how I feel the industry is now or not,

just do it because it's what I love to do. Music is my favorite thing. Get back to it? Get back to it. Both of your texts say get back to it. Get back to your purpose. Get back to your music. Focus on what you love and who you're here,

who you're meant to be, you know, what you're meant to do, while you're here. I wish you guys many, many, many, many years of this type of love. Thank you, Angie. And go get the book, everybody. Yes, please go get the book.

And make sure you listen to Ladies' Night, Angie Martinez versus, you know, the butterfield, still streaming. It's still streaming in 2020. Yes, yes. Judy and everybody. Thank you all so much.

Thanks for having us. Yo, what's up? It's your girl, Brett, and my beautiful wife, Judy. in real life. Hey guys, thanks for watching. Make sure you subscribe, like, comments, and check out all of the other episodes we have

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