Joe and Jada - Angie Martinez IRL - Eric Benet: How Stevie Wonder Made Him Think Twice Before Posting

Episode Date: July 16, 2026

Eric Benet sits down with Angie Martinez to talk about moving on from Halle Berry, how he became a prolific songwriter in the music industry, and the lesson he learned from music legend Stevie Wonder about how he communicates through social media. Visit your nearest Boost Mobile store or https://promo.boostmobile.com/webuilt...All lines provided by ‪Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Did it ever define you? Yeah, for a while I felt defined by it until I started to redefine what it was to take accountability. Because accountability isn't just saying, I fucked up, I did this. Accountability is saying, I fucked up, I did this. But let me just try to take full accountability for the mistakes that I made, regardless of the reasons why I did them. And then let me try to learn from those mistakes. Hey, thanks for watching, guys. Today's episode is brought to you by BoostMor.

Okay, we got a music icon in the building today who has been rocking since the 1900s. 1800. Chart-topping hitmaker, many would say an R&B sex symbol. Who would say such a thing? Many people, including Essence in 2010, they said that. Also, one of the most outspoken and funny artists that you can follow on social media right now. I said this to him when he walked in, one of my favorites. things is watching the many incarnations of Eric Benet and how you have navigated and how you are here now and how you took a city bike over here.

I did. I'll get New York and I'll just hop on the bike, you know. I feel like you've been riding the wave of your career and your life in that type of way from the outside. I don't know from the inside. But I feel like there's been so many times that you're this guy. Why is my phone? Did I not shut it off? Shut up. People texting you said, ooh, ask Eric this. No. I feel like you came in the game and you were like a certain thing what was the thing it was it was a barefoot bohemian smelling like a pack of incense uh neo so I don't like that term I know you hate me or so artist that's what I was and how did you feel

in that box I felt like some of it was kind of true because I because I like incense did you enjoy incense and I was I was a holistic person but I think my my my um My personality was closer to that of like an Oakland, California person. Because in Oakland, they'll be into the chakras in the instance, but they'll be like, you look at me the wrong way. You get cut, motherfucker. Don't get this confused. So I think I was more of a mixture of that.

But I remember very distinctly, and I was also, I've always been this goofy personality that people see. online, but I remember specifically in a publicity meeting at A&R, but when I was first signed to Warner Brothers and me always doing voices and cracking jokes and being goofy, I remember having this conversation, we're marketing you as like this sexy smooth, like in public and in interviews, just toned down that goofy shit. And so... Did they say those words?

Basically. Yes. And it kind of, that kind of stuck making me feel like, okay, if I want this to work, I'm going to let this part of myself show, but maybe hold back the goofy Milwaukee dude. Oh, that doesn't sound fun? It wasn't unfun. It just didn't feel 100% authentic, you know. But I think once you get to a certain age, you stop considering. what you are supposed to look like, and then you just start being what you are. And then that was right around the time

that I discovered, like, TikTok and instant and shit. So this is a recent kind of. Well, the discovery of being authentic isn't recent, but the introduction to that part of myself, to the world, is recent. Yes. Because that was like, I don't know, I've been on TikTok like four, four, not even four years.

I don't even know, something. It feels in modern times. It feels very recent. It feels very, and relatively speaking in my career, it has been recent. And the first comments were like, wait, hold up. Is this barefoot Eric Bonae? Did he just say, nigger?

What? You know, so it was a lot of that. But it was a relief to be able to, of course it is. And it always is when you feel like what any situation you're in, if you feel like you're not being completely authentic when you finally are, it feels so good. And then to have people affirm that, like, where the fuck was this dude? We like him. Yeah, we like him.

You mean, you like me this whole time? Right, you mean you like me the whole time? So. I've been right here, I know, right? I've been right here. Trying to be Mr. Smooth, suave and shit. It's not really good me. Does it, does it ever like, if you look back,

I'm like old. Sometimes I look at old, old photo shoots and I was like, oh man, look at me. I'm trying to do what they call it today, the looks maxing right there. I'm trying to do the blue steel in that picture. It worked for some. It got you on some of the sexiest man list. It got the rent paid for a little while. It got, it got the ladies going.

It got the ladies going. And you were a singer. You probably served you in some type of way. Yeah. Yeah. Who were you before that, though? Like who are you? The nerd.

The nerd. the nerd. Like in school and like... I was the reading science fiction, sketching comic book stuff, doing art. Singing. Singing. Yeah. Singing to me was such a, how do I want to say? Singing to me was such a reflex, like like a visceral thing, like something I didn't even have to think about. So I didn't even think about it's interesting, I don't know how to put it. I didn't even think about singing as something that I did as an interest as much as it was like. Just who you are?

Just what it, yeah, it was like, just like you got two ears. It's like, oh shit, yeah. Singing is just part of me. Your whole life? Yeah, pretty much because I'm the youngest in this group of super musical siblings and father and mom just loved music and had their own distinctive music collections. And all my siblings sang. We sang in harmony.

We played instruments. That's what home life was for me to the point where I thought everybody's family was like this. Just like on Sunday, everybody ate dinner. I thought everybody like harmonized and shit. And it was like, and then I remember being surprised in school when it's music time, how many people had no sense of pitch? How old do you? Like, like, yeah, like seven, you know, when the kids around you. These savages. Yeah, why are you two whole steps above the key of the song?

Like, are you deaf? So I'm thinking this kid is, maybe this kid is deaf. So something's wrong with you. Yeah, something was wrong with you because it was so like, anyway. But. That's funny. Yeah, music has just been me. It's just who you are.

Yeah. It took a minute for me to realize, oh, maybe I could do a career of this. But again, it was really. weird because to me it was just like walking. It's like, what am I going to do? You like, pay me for this? Yeah, people would pay me to just like sing and shit. And it wasn't until puberty when I realized.

Girls like this. Oh my God. And then like I said, I was just like a little nerdy dude who was always doing something that the rest of the guys weren't doing. So, and then when I was like, nobody really knew I could sing and I never really, really volunteered for any solos or thing until it was like seventh grade. And I was like, yeah, fuck it. Let me enter this talent show.

And I sang like Lionel Richie's truly. Woo, I brought the house down. Is there video of that anywhere? I hope so, but you know, we were lucky to have electricity back then. You haven't seen a video. You don't have a video of it. But I remember there was this girl, Vicki Stanton. Where is she now? I have no fucking clue.

But I remember back before I sang truly, Vicki did not. I was just like, oh, that's Eric. He's like a little weird, little nerd guy. And I'd be like, I didn't even know how to talk to Vicky. When I sang truly, the next day, Vicky was at my locker with her eyes all goo-goo-eyed. And I was like, got her. I think I got some shit right here. Right.

So. I'm always surprised at how. How many men have launched a career based on women? That testosterone will run your brain. There's so many of you that I've interviewed and I'm thinking, oh, it must be because they're parent or they're this. There was a girl. It was a girl and I got so many girls.

I thought that's going to be my life now. Right, right, right. So funny. But especially at that time when you're at that 12, 13 years old, when you're so nerdy and insecure. and you don't know how to talk to people and then you discover this almost like superpower you have

and it's like, oh shit, I will wield this sword with responsibility. So it was that kind of vibe. It was like, oh, this is some powerful shit I got. So what were you doing with that powerful shit at the age? Fast forward 10 years at 1820. At 1820.

And again, as much as the whole Vicki Stanton story and the wielding the power of the voice and all that shit, I never really put two feet down and said, my career is going to be music because, you know, for a bunch of reasons, I think it was part of that ingrained black mom and dad who were like, you gotta go to college and, okay, music, yeah, yeah, but you gotta have a solid degree. Even your parents, I'm surprised by such a-

Such music lovers. Yeah. Well, my father, mainly my dad, he was like this frustrated, cultured dude who became a policeman and a detective out of necessity in Milwaukee, but he was really cultured and he wanted more for us. And oddly enough, I told my dad, like right before I graduated high school, I was like, Dan, I think I want to be a fashion design. Because I still wasn't thinking music equals career.

And he was like, fashion designer, a black man as a fashion. Like, my dad didn't have a whole lot of vision. He should have came to New York and learned about black men and fashion design. So basically, I spent a year or a year and a half in college. And then around 19, my cousin George called me and told me that there was a band, a relatively successful band in Milwaukee. Nobody who had any national fame or anything, but they were always performing at the hot clubs,

and they had radio spots. So it was like, and the name of the band was Gerard. And every weekend, you'd hear commercials about, after the drag speedway in this park, and also there will be Gerard performing. And you were like, you know, like, wow, Gerard. one day. And my cousin told me Gerard was looking for a new lead singer.

Mm-mm. And my sister and I joined Gerard. Wow. And then I was like, I'll see what the singing shit does. And then it was like, yeah. No turning back after that. No turning back after that because then I got a chance. That was my college. Yeah. Because for the next couple years, I was in Gerard. But the cool thing about being in a corny band is you get to learn how to work an audience, especially drunk audiences in the Midwest. You don't know who really know, probably don't really know who you're doing. They don't want to hear me sing. They want to hear the other girl with the tits sing.

And it's like, oh, the black dude, what is he going to sing? So I got to like win them over. Yeah. I got to break up fights. Did you have a go-to song that you would win them over? Well, whatever was hot, you know, at any given time, this is what we would do in Gerard. Every two to three months, we would learn four more top 40 songs, whether it was my prerogative or some Madonna song. Not Gerard doing my prerogative.

I'm telling you, it was the, I kill that shit. I know you do. I kill that Bobby Brown shit. back then. So whatever was the hottest at the moment, I'd be like, let's do my prerogative. Dan-na-na-ha-ha. I'd be trying to do the Bobby Brown dance moves and shit. And it was a rap after that. It was like, yeah. So I mean, that was my college. That was learning how to hone my, and the other thing about Gerard was when you have to learn those songs every couple months. It's like a mechanic taking apart an engine, putting it back together.

together. I learned how to construct a hit song. Oh, smart. So it was like, you know, we got to go in the studio. We got to listen to all the harmonies. We got to be like, okay, figure out the bass and the chords and the boom and the breakdown. It's a, it's a formula. A hit song. It's like, it's like three or four formulas, but variations of those formulas work. Oh, that's a good bar for life because sometimes people, especially nowadays, people try to rush to the end goal or they try to get it fast.

Yeah. And sometimes fast, you missed, you miss the, you miss the. that it takes for you to be great. So you're going to be fast food. You're going to be quick, fast. You're not going to have the nourishment. You're saying some shit right now. No, the nourishment that you get from having that experience is real.

And I think a lot of today's artists, the risk of sounding like an old man, it's like they skip all those steps. They go from in their bedroom to doing something on TikTok and face the camera, which is awesome, to maybe a viral moment, and boom, throw you a little. and boom, throw you on stage. And it's like, you know, but you got to do a couple years of learning what it means

to actually be physical on stage and how that, how you maintain your voice. Because that's, there's so many, I should open a school up. You should, like a master class. I should. You're a masterclass. You have a great social media following now. You can send them all that way. That's a damn good idea.

You're welcome. I feel like this is a back-to-the-future moment. Here. Do it. But no, because there's so many facets to this business that a lot of artists tend to skip. Yeah, for sure. And we didn't. We didn't.

And another cool thing about Gerard was they owned a recording studio. I know. Every time I see the name written. And I hear it as they said it on the radio. This weekend, Gerard. But, oh, so they. Was this a Spanish radio station? It sounds like, but it did got the Spanish tone.

L'Amega. La Miga. Los Chiquas. And in Giro. But they owned a studio. And in the late 80s and early 90s, that was not a common thing. You know, everybody got a studio in their laptop now, Gerard had like a 32-track studio.

Imagine that. Wow. And so when we weren't gigging, my cousin and my sister, we were like, yo, can we use the studio and just write some shit? And my cousin, George, and my sister, Lisa, we would go in the studio and we would, I would write songs, they would write songs together. And then we eventually got the deal with EMI Capital as B'nai. It was me and my sister.

As a group. Yeah. And you're how old? What was I that? Like 22, 20. Babes. Something like that. Babies.

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60. 60 what the fuck? That sounds crazy. You don't look anything close to 60. Thank you for that. So what is it? What does it feel like? What do you what did you what did you learn? in the past decade. What did the 50s teach you? How much time? We got an hour? Now we got a little time. Give me like the brief version, the headlines. You're always learning how to improve yourself. You know, there's like, like maturity is not like a destination.

It's like a constant journey. You are always a working process until it's done. And it ain't done until it's done. And you, one of the things that keep me feeling this uncharacteristically youthful 60 is I always, I feel like I'm always trying to expand and try new things and do new things. And I think that keeps, I mean, I think that keeps my brain more active and it definitely keeps your body more in shape. And if you're conscious about what you put into that body, mainly like water and I cut a lot of things out over the years. And I've tried to pick up more healthy practices, then you can be 60 as it looks for me today,

where I feel active. I feel like I'm ready to take on two or three new more challenges. And I feel like by the time I hit 65, I'm probably going to have two or three more endeavors I ain't even thought of yet. And it doesn't feel like slowing down. At 20 years old, 40 felt like, oh, it's a rap. Yeah, my life is over.

40, shit, fucking forget it. That is true, different feeling. But the reality of our time on this earth is that we are past the halfway mark. We're lucky we live to 110 or 120. Does that not freak you out or did that ever freak you out aging in that way when you think about how our time is limited? Yeah, I think if I really... Is that a morbid, depressing question to ask? It's not a morbid depressing question, but it's like anything else.

It's like if you think about the, if you're in a challenging situation, and life has its challenges. If you're in a challenging situation and if you're always thinking about the worst possible outcome, then you're going to affect everything that you're going to benefit from that challenging situation, all the ways you're going to grow, all the ways that you're going to be uplifted. And it's the same thing if you're always thinking about, damn, I'm 60. statistically speaking, I got 18 years more left. You know, if I think about that, that's just going to limit and fuck up whatever time I have left. So I think that's the way to look at it.

So you say fuck that. Yeah, fuck the end because shit, I might be one of them fools that be like a hundred, ten years old. My name, Eric B'nay. Back in the 1900s, in 1991. one. We had cell phones, not these digital chips, and I hear it. That's absolutely happening, by the way. It's absolutely happening.

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how have you maintained not letting outside become who you are inside? I'll ask you about the lessons in it, not the details. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll say, so the lessons. Mm-hmm. The lessons and the headlines. Ooh, that's a chapter to it. When I write my, when I write my book, I think that's going to be the lessons.

That's going to be the name of the chapter. Well, and I ain't giving you no credit. Why? I gave you that and I gave you a bunch of masterclass. I gave you two jewels today. Come on. All right, you had headlines. I think one of the things about going through life's challenges is it really helps galvanize, like,

how you are not responsive to, negative energy, you know. I think when, if there's negative energy coming at you and if there is, I shouldn't say negative energy, I should say less than positive views of you for things that you, you've taken accountability for and you've done and you've tried, you've tried to improve yourself and your psyche and your mental from things that you've realized that you've done. First of all, you can't expect the world or anybody else to immediately forgive you. And then you have to get-

Or forget. Because then they'll try to define you by mistakes. And then you can't allow what they are thinking of you, affect how you feel about it. you because there's the internal journey that you're on nobody else knows but you so i think going through that process it actually makes you a better person and kind of uh facilitates growth faster i think or at least that's the way i i feel about life's challenges did you ever get lost in that though did it ever define you like i think in so many ways if you look at my my comments to a lot of people, I feel like going through the biggest fuck up, I felt, yeah,

for a while I felt defined by it until I started to redefine what it was to take accountability. Because accountability isn't just saying, I fucked up, I did this. Accountability is saying, I fucked up. I did this. Let me try not to think of the reasons or the, something that could be misinterpreted by other people or even myself as excuses. But let me just try to take full accountability for the mistakes that I made regardless of the reasons why I did them. And then let me try to learn from those mistakes. You know what I mean? I do.

But until I get to that, until that process is finished, yeah, there's a lot of beating yourself up and feeling like I'm less than, I'm worthy. How old were you? How old were you? Jesus. Were you in like your 20s? No. You in 30s, 40s?

No, no. I was in 30s. 30s, like early 30s. 30s, like early 30s. Like, I'm just saying. Was it early 30s? Probably. But a young man, a young, successful man who was an artist, was in his 30s, who was involved in any kind of cheating scandal, whatever, you call it, whatever the thing is.

It's not the craziest or most uncommon thing. It's not like, it's not like you robbed the bank or you did, you did, you violated, you know, or was violent or it was nothing of like that. that. I mean, you had some, you. But things are often always. I'm just saying it's a, it was a lot to put on you for just a, a time in your life where some, maybe human error, maybe not error. Maybe that had to happen for you to get to wherever you are now or to get into another marriage that you probably did better and got, you know, and healed yourself. And I don't know, I'm just saying, do you feel like a lot was put on you

for the crime? Oh, no. No, dead at, like, seriously. Like, there's a way I can answer that question, and it's like, if I answer, okay. I don't want to get you back in trouble or something that's all. Yeah, no, no, no, no. Okay. At the time, like I said, I felt, I felt like all of the, what's the word I'm looking for?

Admonishment I'm receiving for my actions. I felt like I deserve them. Really? And in retrospect, looking back, I'm feeling like, wow, that was a lot. But if that hadn't happened, I probably wouldn't have been able to evolve to where I'm at today. And I don't know if I would be the personality that I feel inside and that is reflected when people see me online. So it's like, you know, it's just no poetic way of saying there is no excellence with you. without difficulty, there's no growth without struggle and fucking up and falling on your face,

sometimes in front of the whole fucking world, which I don't really think anybody will ever understand what that's like. I mean, you've lived a very public life and sometimes some of the... Yeah, but not that. That's why I were curious about it, because even in the smaller scale that I have experienced things where maybe people didn't like something I said or something was misunderstood, Even in those moments, I have to get quiet and make sure that I'm okay with myself so that I don't fall victim to other people's understanding of whatever the thing is. Even in my small situations, and I've been pretty good in my career, you know, God, but I'm just saying at that level, I just wondered, man, he got to, he rocked through that. Because in that moment, you felt like if you misunderstood and you communicated in inappropriate,

Like then it would bring another rush of, what are you saying? No, I think in that moment, if I wasn't strong in my own spirit and my own thoughts, I could start believing or start acting differently, trying to either prove something to somebody or self-doubt sets in, all that, all the shit, all the stuff that comes from outside opinions. And I say, I share this kind of stuff because I think even on people's in people's real life, at the job, everybody in the job thinks you're something. I think that thing we're talking about.

You had it on a very big scale. On a cataclysmic scale. Yes. But that might feel like that to somebody else who maybe everybody at the job knows. True. How about the guy who was at the Coldplay concert with the girl from the job? Did you see that? Did you imagine?

Like you had no, you went from zero to 120. Yeah. You had your own little private bubble of life and then whoosh. I'm just saying that guy or even that girl, everybody's attention on you sometimes, I don't know, just gets in your own way. And I think people have to navigate that on their own levels or whatever levels. And I just think somebody who had to deal with it in such a grand way. Like understanding how you manage that is interesting to me. Like more so than the details of all of the things, but that you navigated that and learned from it.

Well, that's what life is. It's like, whatever is thrown your way, it's like you have two, two opportunities. No, you really have three opportunities. There's always drugs. How's that end? Bad. Yeah. Okay.

Wait, did you, you didn't go that route. No. What was the route? What was the route for healing for you? Accountability, time, trying to, trying to make amends as much as I possibly possibly could. But with yourself? With myself, with her, with my family,

with everybody who, and everybody who was around me who I felt like I just let down and with myself. And then going through that process, then there's time, you know? Then there's just quite, and remember, at that time, it was like I was a single dad to my daughter.

And then it was like, okay, it was that situation where I got to, you know, hey, you fucked up. Let's get it together because look who's waking up every morning and smiling and laughing and looking for breakfast. So whenever I'm in her face, I can't be like, oh, damn, I fuck my life up, shit. I got to be, I still got to be happy daddy. And so that was an incredible cat, not just catalyst, but the whole nucleus of get your shit together, nigga. Yes, you fell down, so what, blah, blah. Get up. Get up. Get up. Get up. You fucked up. You know, look at that face. So you know, that's not a very easy thing for, and I don't want to just put this on men, because I don't know a lot of

women who struggle with this also. But accountability and apologizing is not always easy for people. Was that easy for you before or in life or did you have to learn how to do that? Well, you were forced to. You were forced to. No, I think. Well, you had a lot of siblings. So sometimes that helps. Yeah, I got I got a lot of siblings. I'm the baby of those siblings. So that may have had something to do with me fucking up in the first place. What is that attention? You like the attention? Yeah, absolutely.

And I think apologizing for me when I know I'm wrong, I don't think that was my struggle. I think like acting like everything was cool when it wasn't. I have historically been good with that until, the card house comes falling down and then I'm like, holy fuck. I'm not okay. I'm not okay. And I fucked up.

And then once that happens, apology is very natural. Accountability is the next. Like I said, other than drugs and alcohol, you have to face reality. And yeah, the reality is like you built this. What's on the other side of that? Like what's the next phase? Oh, my God. What's on the other side is a bit more fearlessness for doing good stuff.

You know? Never a fear of like, I don't know, slipping back into old habits or old, you know. No. No. But what it did was before all that happened, I think I had a fear. of failure. It's almost like it was an inoculation to a fear of failure, you know, because I was just, it was a readiness to try new things and a confidence to meet people. I met my wife. Mm-hmm.

You're how old when you met your wife? 30s, 30s, right? No, by that time I was, I think I was, 40, maybe, maybe. Yeah. And a new evolution of you. A new evolution had kids. We have Luna and Lucia who are 14 and 11 now,

and they are brilliant. India is just a brilliant woman now. Yeah, so I think there's always strength after you do the work. Yeah. That must have been really joyful for you to find love after being going through all of that, going through publicly, being down, having to get up, raising your daughter. and then actually finding love and being healed. It's beautiful.

You know what I'm saying? It's beautiful. It's probably a different experience. Because if you go into a marriage or a relationship unhealed from the beginning, it can't feel as good as going into a relationship healed. Very true. And one of the most incredible things about this time around is, so with my oldest daughter, India, I didn't have a partner.

I have my family helping me out. Now I have a partner who is, you know, who these two little incredible humans are the most important things in her life as well. So you get to share that lived experience. Yeah. Yeah, it's wonderful. And, you know, it's just a joyous experience.

Are you a good husband? I try to be. Come on. You know if you're a good husband. are or not. Yeah. Yeah. And I think there's, especially in this business, I think when you are traveling as much as

you are, when you are away from, you want to be there for everything and you're not, and sometimes your kids don't understand. And she, my wife, Manuela, is incredible. She's one of those, like, attentive to every detail person. And I'm kind of like the opposite. So I think being a good husband is, you know, a big part of that too. And, you know, I think I can always do better when it comes to that. Mm-hmm.

So. But overall? Overall, I think, I think so. Yeah. I think so. I'm going to, I'm going to say an emphatic yes. What have you learned about that? Like, what is the lesson?

Like, what have you learned? Like, what does it take to be a good husband? Probably going through. the challenges of not being a good argument. Right. And I think that's always the case. It's like, who was that talking to? I was talking to a buddy of mine about.

I remember a buddy of mine said he was introducing me to his friend. And he said, hey, his friend was about to get married. And my buddy said, hey, let me introduce you to my buddy, Eric Bonae, like, ask him all the questions, you know, about marriage and this, that, and yet. And this was before, this was shortly after, shortly after my first marriage ended in. And he wanted you to give him advice. Exactly. And his friend, after his friend looked at him, he said, hey, no offense. But I mean, I just heard about what happened. And it's like, bro, I don't know if I want advice from you. And my friend looked at him and he said, dude, if you're on a motorcycle and you're riding a mall hall and drive, who better to ask for advice on how to maneuver that shit than the motherfucker who just ran off the edge? So I think there's a bit of it.

In that spirit, and I've heard your response to this before, but in that spirit, can you laugh at or someone appreciate the never-go Eric B'nai line? Or is that? I mean, if you're saying the same thing, Eric, it's kind of the same thing. You're saying the same thing. What's funny about that is there was this perception or and there was even some reporting. That you were upset about it? Not just upset, but apoplectic. Like, like screaming about it and...

Oh, I didn't see that. Yeah, that's the other thing. Sometimes we see shit, like I see shit and if I see it, I think everybody sees it. No, no. just a good. So, yeah, you were spazzing. You, you, you hate Jay-Z. Like, I was like, yo, Jay-Z mentioned me. So. Did you really? Are you that far removed from that guy that you're- Yes. Yeah. Yeah, it was like, I mean, me and my team, we got together. It was like, this shit crazy. Um, so yeah, there was no, like, animosity about that. That shit, that shit was

It was quite funny. And then I thought I was being cute with a response on back then Twitter and it kind of backfired. What was your response? I don't remember. It was something. Something funny that I thought was funny. Oh, like I thought I was living my life. Yeah, like you said something.

I thought was funny and it was like, I was looking at the comments. I was like, oh, I should have shut the fuck up. But you weren't somewhere sitting somewhere angry. I was in, it was funny. I was in Cuba. Oh, wow. I was in Cuba and, um, There were these articles talking about how I was so angry and I was so...

In Spanish? No, no. Like, we were looking at back home stuff. Yeah, back home. Like how Eric Benais is definitely upset about what happened. And we were like chilling in Havana with cigars and shit, having a good time laughing about the whole thing. And it's just funny how the media will take something. Yeah, for sure.

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You know, none of those things, those ups and downs and those moments have stopped you from kind of just continuing to... I don't know, adjust the channel. You have to. Yeah. You have to. It's like, yeah, that's part of it, man.

You just got to like, because whatever is happening, there's like a perception of what actually happened. And 90 times out of 100, the reality is something completely different. And so you can't react to people reacting to something that they think Yeah, I get it. You feel me? But now you're in this space where you've created a whole social media personality that you have that we didn't know, that you had internally, but you never showed us on the outside.

So everybody thinks there's like a new. Yeah, they think this is a new being. You can ask Allison. Allison is the one right over there who gave me my first record deal. She signed me to Warner Bros. The whole time you've been working together. When I got that deal at EMI, she gave it to me. Also, all the ups and downs we're talking about, she was right in those.

She was right there. Passing your seat. Yeah. She's known that I've basically Helping you navigate probably. I'll run into somebody like Fuzzy. And he'll be like, yo, Eric, this is the same nigga.

This is Eric, finally. That's funny. Was it surprised to you how people have responded to you on socials? Surprising? No. I would say it wasn't surprising as it was, it just felt affirming, you know? Yeah.

I felt like, wow. Yeah, I guess this has been me the whole time. It feels really good for people to just like me, you know, without me trying to like put on some kind of blue steel face. Yeah, that's good. Is that a weird reference, blue steel? No, you know, you know, fully aging yourself. Okay.

Because now I'm at the shirt, Laverna shirt. Laverna shirt is an old reference. Old reference than that. I'm at the age now where I feel if I make a, uh, uh, a lot of my references, I'll be like, does anybody understand? Remember when you were always the youngest person in the room, and now that shit don't happen no more,

and you'll just make a reference in the whole room, it's like, what is he talking about? I've been there. Blue steel, Zoolander, for those who don't. Yeah, go Google it. Yeah, Google it. Or chat it. Mm-hmm.

Chat, so what are you going to do with this newfound kind of, I don't know? Rock a new single? Yeah, well, then there's that. Keep the music going. Yeah. Last year, we had a music project that did really well on Allison and my label, JBR. We had two number one singles.

Yes. Excuse me. I'm Berkut from La Croix. We have. We're going to get a sponsorship now. Thank you. La Croix with Eric Bona. We had incredible female artists on this project, like artists who I did.

Like 14, right? And that shit was crazy. I don't know how we pull that shit off. That's a lot. Because- Can you name them all quickly? If I do, I'll miss somebody. But we're talking about Lettucey.

We're talking about Jordan Sparks. We're talking about Shanty Moore, Tamar Brax, and Corinne Bailey, Ray. We're talking about India, India, we're talking about- Yeah, Pipes, go ahead. Who else? Ari Lennox. Come on, Eric, what the fuck? See, no, see, I'm gonna forget people.

All right, fine. Don't go to the whole list. But there's a lot of women. But two number one singles, a project that we're really proud of at JBR. And who's thinking, whose brain baby is this? Let's go get all the women. This woman over here. Oh, got it. Who is like, because I, you started your career as the essence sexiest man,

one of the essence sexiest man's alive. You might as well return to your roots. You said that shit, Angie. I didn't say that bullshit. I wanted to return to your roots. Well, I'm always returning to music. And we had a new record label. So it was time.

And I hadn't had something new out in eight years. And I decided to, Allison was like, niggie, you need to get your ass back in the studio and do an album, but we need to make it special. Let's look at some of your biggest successes have been duets. So let's make a whole, you know, spend my life in Georgia Porgy. and so we did a whole album that way and I'm extremely proud of it.

Now we have a new single for a solo project that I need to get back to L.A. and put some finishing energy on, a lot of finishing energy on. No cat, no features, just you. No features so far. And it's the first single I feel really good about because it's really an extension, of a lot of my political animus on social media, like telling people, oh, let's, we're stronger together. Please stop being silent. Like, please speak out against the division, the subjugation,

the trying to rewrite history and errat, our rights, you know, we got to fight against that. So the single Who's Gonna Save Us is all about that. It's so good. Yeah, so good. Thank you got in the studio with my man DJ Camper. Feli, the Voice, incredible songwriters and producers, and we came up with this joint.

I love that. Who is going to save us? We are. We are. Only we can't. Can we? How do we? What's the first thing?

Well, we've done it multiple times and history. And the crazy part about it is how the powers that be, they keep using the same fucking formula and it keeps working. The divide and conquer. Let's know, let's get them to fight against each other. And then we can rob them and we can take away even more of their rights. So then they'll start fighting even more and we'll get even richer. And now we can be trillionaires. and they'll think we're superpowers. And, you know, so it's- I even see it with like what they're doing.

I don't know, sometimes I see people going at each other. And I wonder where the roots of this. And a lot of times when you track some of that, I wonder if that's even real. Like, I feel like there's just so many bots and AI systems that are literally set up to your point to divide and conquer. You're 100% right. Yeah, it's so scary.

And it's so wild to watch up. people play right into it so easy. What's especially frustrating to me is two things are going to be needed, which it seems lately we haven't been tapping into the realization that how powerful we are as individuals and to be at least marginally educated. It doesn't mean you got to have a PhD or even graduate from college, but you've got to read. You got to read history, the history that they're trying to erase. You have to fill your brain with knowledge and it's disappointing sometimes.

Oh man, I'm going to, again, I'm going to sound like the old crumagent old man right now. It's all right. You got good skin. You can get away with it. But I don't know if you're experiencing this. Tell me. But sometimes if you talk to 19, 20, 21 year olds, it's like there's certain sometimes. And unfortunately, for me, it's more than not. I work with a lot of young people in the music industry and like basic general knowledge stuff. It's like they're clueless about.

They don't even teach kids how to write in script. Bruh. Yeah. They don't even teach that. And it's, it's. Sometimes like I have younger family members or somebody young and I'm like, should I write is a script or should I write, are they going to be able to read this? Yeah.

Is this three syllable word? I mean, that's just a simple little thing, let alone the important things. Yeah. Scary. And that's, we're going to need those two things if we are going to save ourselves. You got to empower your brain and empower yourself. And there's so many other things attached to that, like taking care of your body. Yeah.

What does the Eric Bonae, a self-care regimen look like? Because you would have to take care of yourself to be, as immersed, especially in this political climate and all that and everything that's happening in the world. Because you immerse yourself. Some of us do a dance as much as we can and just try to balance a normal life. Yeah, I understand that. You don't, you don't, your blinders are never on. Yeah.

You know, some of, I put blinders on sometimes, not for long periods. For your own sanity. Just for my, just long enough to have my sanity. Then I'll go back and pay attention and do my work and research and, you know, but I do sometimes have to find ways to put blinders on. But there are people like, even the people who do ground, like my friend to Mick and Mallory or people who are never without blinders. I think, oh, that's hard. Like you have to find a way to who.

And I feel like you probably have your own ways, exercise or whatever ways to put blinders on, even for a little bit of time. But you seem like you're in it pretty much all the time. Yeah, some of my friends are like, dude, why are you watching news so much? It's just bringing you down. And it does. But it does bring me down, but it also, it just kind of like, it makes me vocal. It makes me vocal.

You gotta be aware of this stuff. It's like, it's like, I'm forever, I think it'll be 100, 200 years from now. And if there's, if we are still alive as a civilization, they will be studying as to how was it possible? that somebody who has so repeatedly failed in their life and has had such a void of any moral compass or character or ethics or care or concern for history or anything other than his own self-endgrandizement. How did he become president?

And it's like the formula. The formula, I don't know. Distract? Distract, divide, divide, and we got it. And I think the only, again, I'll say it again, the only effective anecdote for that is education and self-empowerment. What about self-care for you? So what do you do?

How do you take care of yourself? How do you keep your mental? You got to drink your water and I cut out alcohol. Really? None? Zero. I would say once every couple months I'll have a glass of wine. Okay. You got to cut out as much sugar as you possibly can. Look, if I'm down south and there's some peach cobbler right there,

and I know I haven't had dessert in like a month, I'm going to fuck that peach cobbler up, right? But, I mean, for the most part, I think I have to really monitor and manage sugar intake, processed foods. I try to maintain a relatively pescatarian diet. Sardines are good. Blueberries. What else you got? I try to cut out dairy. I work out four times a week. What kind of workout? Not heavy. Like weights? Like weight training?

A lot of calisthenic stuff, some weight stuff. I'll try to do like like 100 push-ups a night and then I'll do my workout in the morning. Um, you know. So this doesn't just happen at 60, right? This is not how you look at six. This is not, this is not genetics. I mean, not for me. Not for me. You work hard to yeah. Yeah, you get yeah, because I mean, it's just a matter of your your natural bodily functions that if you don't do it, then your muscles will year by year, you'll lose more and more percentage of of your muscles and your bone density. If you're not counteracting it with diet and exercise and grounding,

grounding, stay connected to the earth. How do you do that? Take your shoes off and just- You're still barefoot Eric Bonae. See, I told you some truth to that shit. There is true. I might say a couple of swear words if I stubbed my toe, but I mean, yeah, no, but I mean, there's undeniable scientific evidence that,

If you have skin-to-skin contact with the soil, the earth, the sand, it lowers the inflammation in your body. And it promotes a general well-being. And where do you do? Where do you go outside at home, I guess, right? In the backyard, if you're having your coffee in the morning, take your, well, I get in L.A., you can do it year-round. I take my shoes off and I drink my coffee outside in the backyard. Barefoot. Barefoot, yeah.

You know so funny, I started golf. a few years ago and I went to golf maybe a year ago with someone and he was barefoot the whole time and I was kind of like making fun of him and did he tell you why he just said you there's only some places that you's only a few places in the world that you can do it so he chose to do it we were I think we were in the Bahamas and he was golfing barefoot we were just joking we were like teasing it was you know funny but I really thought I kind of want to try that might be something to that you should now you're making me really want to try it There really is like peer-reviewed scientific evidence to back it up.

All right. Yeah. We have some features that we have to do with you while you're here, Eric. Uh-oh. What I got to do? I got to dance. Yes. You're going to dance.

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This is our voice note segment. Who do we have? Eddie here. I'm a girl dad. My 13-year-old girl just started dating. I'm already having nightmares about it. But I've been having this thought specifically about her bringing home a man,

him cheating on her, and then having to deal with that situation like her wanting to take him back as something. What do you think I should say in that situation? What do you think I should do if my baby girl brings home a man who cheats on her and then wants to stay with him? Thank you. That is a very specific question in his life.

That is very, very specific. There's a couple issues about the question. Your 13 year old daughter. She shouldn't be dating at all? She should. Hell fuck no. When did they start to date? I don't think he said she was.

I think he said he has a fear of that this would happen. Okay, then good. Here's the question. You ain't got shit to worry about till she's 16. And then what? And then if she brings home a guy who cheats on her? Yeah. Or is a bad guy.

Then you have until one, two, she's 16 years old to be the representation of the kind of guy you want her to bring home. And, um, um, um, one or two bad ones might slip through because that is definitely not a fail-safe plan there. And when that happens, you have until one until 16 years old to have the kind of relationship with your daughter where she's going to come to you and talk to you about what she's going through. You are not going to be able to control a 16-year-old daughter. First of all, she's female. So she's going to have all kinds of ways to make you think she's doing what you ever. but she ain't really going to be doing it.

So you, as much as you would like to be the absolute control of that situation, he's not going to be. So he's got time to arm her with love. Hey, I'm Ruby Carr, the host of the podcast, Encore. Check out our brand new episodes featuring music from the show that everyone is reheating as we speak. heated rivalry. Join me as I go behind the songs that brought Shane and Elia together.

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And if you're looking for strong opinions, funny opinions about sports, entertainment, politics, pop culture, and whatever else catches my attention, then subscribe now. This kid, Jafar Jackson, is as good as Rami Malik as Freddie Mercury, and it's as good as Timothy Shamaulay as Bob Dylan. And I say that with love and respect for both of those actors. And I don't know how many Oscar nominations they give out, I don't know if it's five, six for best. 50% this kid Jafar Jackson should absolutely positively get nominated for his portrayal as Michael Jackson. Listen to I Am Rap Report on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. I am Rapaport podcast. I'm Emily Oster. I'm an economist and data expert.

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Let's talk about the best moments that we had on the road. I would love a cocktail. Dude, Joe could get last row, middle scene on a Southwest Airlines flight. Joe, I was your flight. It was great. The guy on Penn State moving on the field, and the player thought Joe is his former coach. And he hugged him.

He hugged him, and Joe just went with it. And the guy goes, what are you doing here, coach? And Joe just goes, man. And you walk in, and it is bananas. I mean, it's a feast for the eyes. And I was like, it's not my thing either. but we're here when in Rome. Top athletes, chefs, musicians, everybody.

Listen to Paul's best podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you have that relationship with your kids, I'd imagine? Yeah, and I'm trying to, you know, we've got a couple more years to go with Lucia. I've got four or five more years with Luna, and I'm trying to every day have a better relationship in that regard with my daughter. the most important thing, most important people in my life.

Your oldest is how old now? 34. 30, she's in a beautiful relationship and yeah. Yeah, and she's in a beautiful relationship and yeah. Thank God. Yeah. Is that a fear though? I'm not, I'm not worried about her.

But you know, all right, okay, this is fun. I feel like you're a good dad. Are you a good dad? I again, like, I think so, but I'm trying, I don't want to say, because if I tell you, yes, I'm a good dad, It's like, I feel like I could do better. How? I think, well, when I look at my wife and how incredibly attentive and like she is with them in every aspect of their life.

And I'm like, how do you keep track of all of that stuff? And then I'm trying to keep the income coming into the situation. And it's like, so I feel like I'm a good dad who's always trying to find ways to be a better dad. Mm-hmm. It's probably taught you a lot, right, about life and- Woo. Shando. Yeah.

Yeah. It's like it's a poetic justice from God. It's like all daughters for you, bro. Yeah, but they also say they give you the kids, they say God gives you the kids that you need. Yeah. To become who you're supposed to be. Yeah, I love that. You know what I'm saying?

And that's true. I 100% agree with that. I feel like that too. Like it's, ooh. They get you there. Because you're trying to be the best version of yourself. So they're forcing you to be a better version of yourself simply by just existing. Right.

And simply by them being existing, but by them existing. Yeah. You are having to underscore less, that you've learned and things, as you're teaching them things, you're like, yeah, I think I needed to hear that too. Has anybody ever given you good parenting advice? The best parenting advice is try to share

as much of your life with your children as age appropriately as you can during their journey of growing up so that it's very natural for them. Once they get to that 16, it'll be like, guess what happened? I won't feel like such a weird thing for them. Do you do that with your kids?

Kids, you do. I try to. You tried to. Yeah. I agree. I agree. Good, good, good, um, good advice. Childhood.

Okay, we're gonna do some IRL questions. We have an IRL bowl. Let me just go through this real quick. You okay over there? I think you are wonderful today. You think so? Do you not feel like that? Tell me, tell me now.

No, I'll give you a different line of questioning. I feel like I was cool. I think so. I wasn't an asshole and that. Why would you be an asshole? Have you, are you an asshole sometimes? I don't. What would make you, like, what would happen in your day that would make, hmm.

It's funny because when I ask people questions, I said, I go through this thing in my mind where I want to, can I answer that? Mm-hmm. So I was going to ask you what, what would. Do you really? Sometimes, yes, especially if it's like a question like that that I just think on the spot. It's almost like I try to be like, is that a fair question to ask? Could you answer that in your own thing? Yeah, they've all been fair questions.

So if I say to you, what would make you be an asshole in your day, then I'm saying to myself, what would make me and I was like I was a little bit of an asshole yesterday. I think what would make me and I remember that first why were you an asshole yesterday? I was really overwhelmed with life yesterday. Just personal shit, work shit, too much on my plate, hadn't had five minutes to just... That don't make anybody an asshole and that was going to be my answer. Well that was what it was. It still shouldn't be an asshole because it's not anybody else's fault that asshole maybe is an extreme word. An individual of low patience.

Extreme. Yeah, extremely low patients. High level. That's about as close as I'll get to an asshole. If it's like I've just, there've been a couple letdowns in the day. Something didn't go the right way. I didn't eat. I forgot to do some shit, which I'm always forgetting to do shit.

What level of assholery are we talking about though? Probably like, can we, can we wrap it up? Because I gotta go. Mike, that's pretty bad. Yeah. That's not, I mean, that's not the worst. I mean, it's not like, I definitely- Fuck this shit, man, I'm out of here.

It's not like, what did Trump do? He just like, all you gotta do to Trump is like, ask him an actual question. And he's fucking out of here. You know, that's a rude question. That's just a, that's why you're a despicable person. That's an asshole. Well, he's an asshole from the gate, out the gate.

True. He's not like us. From a long line of asshole. Long line of assholes. In all of this commentary you've been making, have you heard from anyone? Have you gotten any of those weird calls? I didn't get weird calls, but I did get a call from Stevie Wonder. Oh, can you share?

I can only share because he said I could. Okay. Have you shared this before? No. I'm so excited. Yeah. First of all, Stevie Wonder is one of our greatest natural trends. Steve Wonder is the most, I mean, I don't even got to say shit. He's the most, beautiful, talented, iconic, you know, you don't got it. But to know him- He is a national treasure.

And here's the other thing that I've discovered in my career. People like that, people who just seem as though their talent exceeds human expectation, Stevie Wonder, Quincy Jones, Prince, when you meet these people, In my experience, they always seem to be the most attentive and they make you feel like when they're talking to you, you're the only person in the world. And it's just like, really? Okay, well, I want to know how you think of, but, you know, well, tell me about this, you know. What is that? What is that? Yeah, what is that that that they do? Why do you think they do that?

I think it's just they are. so successful because in any given moment, they are so present. And it's not just that. I think it's love. I think they have so much, you can't be a conduit for that much creativity and power. There's just not a whole lot of love in your being. Now, you may have your own personal challenges. Challenges.

Yes. But it's all packaged in love and love. trying to become a better person. God wouldn't give you a gift that strong. Exactly. If there was no love in there, yeah. So Stevie, I've been blessed in my life to say that he is somebody who I can call and talk to, which I still pinch myself with that realization, but he's just a being of love.

He called me. Well, actually, my wife told me, Stevie's going to call you. about four o'clock. I'm like, oh shit, what I do? Wait, has Stevie ever called? Have you ever gotten that call from No, I've never gotten this call from Stevie before? Oh, no, just like if you've done something. Let's see like, call you with the check. No. No, but there's something about tone. Oh, you know your wife's tone. Right. Yeah. So, actually, I was supposed to call him. So I called him.

And basically, where he was coming from was he's seen some of the posts. And his sentiment was, like, Eric, look, my young brother, I know that we're all angry and disheartened, but I fear that he was basically saying, you're coming on a little hard and I'm worried about how crazy somebody's motherfuckers are out there. Not his words, mine. Yeah, yeah, you're paraphrasing. Yeah, he was like, those who are on the side of that negativity, they are crazy motherfuckers and why don't you put all of that anger into music? So he was coming to me as like the older uncle brother, like, I don't want you to get out

there and somebody do some stupid shit to you because it's something you said. And then two days later, I went into the studio and wrote Die Petto. So I don't- Where is that song? Where is that? I never officially released, but I was just in the studio one day, angry and thinking about what Stevie said, put it in music, huh? All right. I'm going to write DiPetto. And maybe I'll throw it on the album. I don't know. Look, they're sending people. I know they might very, very well. They're coming for you already. Very well maybe them. But I mean, I was, I was so grateful for the call. And I think I really, I really took it to heart. And I won't say that it.

made me change what I say, but maybe I think about how I say it sometime. That makes sense, because when you think of Stevie, you know, he's the loves in need of love today. He's love, but not only that, so many generations of this same movement he's seen and he's seen some of the soldiers get taken out. Not that, please, I'm not saying I'm a soldier and I don't think he would, well, I guess in some ways I am. He wasn't, I don't know, maybe he was, but I'm grateful for the conversation.

Did it shift anything in you or no? Because you haven't really slowed up that much. I haven't slowed up, but that thought is conscious in my head every time. I'd be like, okay, curb your rage. Curb your rage. So I'll be thinking about oh so long. I'll be thinking about Stevie now when I post. So.

Stevie. He's a bucket list guest. me on the pod. He is a beautiful Godlike soul because he's all about, I care for you, I care for this world. I want we, he is the message of who's going to save us. It's like we all need to collectively join our positive energy if we're ever going to overcome the negative forces of this world. And his message is do it without the rage, but do it from a place of

love that stevie beautiful but i'm a shit i got too much james baldwin at me though you're more malcolm than my than uh i think so than martin yeah i'd be like fuck them motherfuckers man have you ever made a call like that to put somebody on to something or to like do you ever make those calls because i'm sure there's people that look to you you to o g to some of these singers r b I try to encourage people to just speak. Because what I'm hearing often is people will come up to me and they will just say, man, I so appreciate what you're doing. And my response is like, thank you, thank you.

Please, I invite you to voice. Join me. Join me. Yeah. And yeah. I laughed when you asked me the question because, because I thought about the time I met Dick Gregory. Oh.

Which did not go well. Why? What happened? So where was- Give it to me. Tell me the Dick Gregory story. The gig was, I was in D.C. and it was Obama's inauguration and just wanted to be there for this historic event.

And then after the inauguration, there's all kind of little pockets of things happening. And I was at some place, I don't know. I don't remember where I was, but somebody said, hey, Dick Gregory's back there and there's about 30 people back there. And I was like, oh shit, excuse me. I want to go meet Dick Gregory. And when I walked back, I quietly like stood at the back of the room and he was commanding the people as Dick Gregory does. And he was just saying how he was talking about his regimen of health. And he was basically saying,

I don't eat shit. This is all, I drink water because food is toxic. I don't eat. I don't eat nothing. I don't never eat. And people are like, wow. And when there was a break, have you ever met Dick Gregory? No, never.

And when there was a break in the conversation, I was like, oh, Mr. Greger, I just want to say it's so nice to meet you. But, I mean, there must be something that you eat. Big mistake. Big mistake. There was like a pause. He looked at me. This nigger trying to tell me what I said. I was like, oh my God.

Nigger, I said I don't eat shit. These young niggas don't listen to. Nigger. Oh, he called you young, though. He called you the young. I look pretty young, I guess. When was Obama? That was, oh, Jesus.

Yeah, exactly. 12 years ago. I just do it number out. I'm bad with you. So, yeah, I was like, dang. And that's how it ended? He didn't laugh and say it's okay. No, that was no laugh.

That's Dick Gregory. Oh, yes, no laughter. Yeah. I said I don't eat shit, nigger. So. How does that end? Okay, good, meet the speech. Do you ever see the meme of Homer and the bush?

Back to the bushes? Yeah, that was it. Back to the bushes. Yeah, I think I actually said, don't. And just like, faded into the, It's really funny. It wasn't at the time. No, I bet.

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Okay. Okay, give it to me. So the habit that I am most proud of is when I make the decision, when I made the decision to take care of my health, I can be pretty, I can stick to that pretty with, you know, consistency. The diet. When was that? Um, in varying degrees about five years ago.

Oh, wow. You know, some things it's taken me the last couple of years to like just lock into like a workout, a cut out alcohol, I eat right. What's a habit- That's inspiring to me because that means I could go do that today. You absolutely can. Yeah, that's inspiring. I do take care of myself in certain ways, but I could do a lot of things a lot better. So you make me feel like from now to five years from now I could really make a significant difference.

It would make such, okay, you don't got to, you don't got to put this on camera, but do you drink? I do. Yeah. So I know it's difficult because like a couple years, like maybe three years ago, I would have to have like two shots of scotch before I get the stage. I'm not a drinker like that. I drink, I enjoy a cocktail. Yeah.

That means I have one or two. How often? Maybe twice a week. Yeah. See? Once or twice a week. Sometimes once, sometimes twice a week. I'm never going to have three or four.

three or four or anything like that or shots. I'll have one or two. But there's always sugar, you know, it's alcohol and the sugar together. Yeah, it's not good. It's not good. I enjoy a leechy mortina. But I'm not telling nobody what to do. I'm just telling you what's,

you just telling me, give me the thing. You were just dropping the jewels on me. I got to stop drinking. I have found that one. Tell me what I need to do. It says in five years when I turn 60. I. So you look incredible. Well, thank you.

But I have some gland one. With alcohol, even two drinks a week, it will make your skin start to age sooner than you should be. But if you stop, you could reverse it. Alcohol attacks every system within your body. You know, from how your brain synapses to your digestion, to your REM sleep, to your heart, to how you're, how youthful you look to your energy level, everything. Like if you cut out, like it is a neurotoxin. If you cut out alcohol, you'll find like once you stop that habit, you will notice like in a month. It's like, wow, I slept solid through the night, you know. In a month? I did. And it's like, wow,

I, you know, I have more energy. So anyway, that's my- Okay, I'm going to take it. All right. So does I mean no fun? No, no, no. Well, you need fun to have alcohol? No other substance. No, I just, no, no other fun substances. No, I mean no other fun substances. No, there's no, there's no microdosing or there's no weed or does no, there's no, nothing. I don't smoke. So clean, completely clean and clean eating. Yeah. Yeah. And you, you will, your body will thank you for it. Okay, we're going to see. I'm going to try. Okay, what's a habit? I'm going to give it a month and see. You got, wait, shake my hand on that. No, I'm going to give it a month. I'm going to do it. I'm going to check in with you, young lady. Okay, fine. It's been on my spirit anyway. So the fact that you're telling me that right now, I'm going to try it.

Not to do this. Not. You're the spokesman. Like a walking billboard. So, okay, I'm going to try it. Done. What's a habit you're trying to break? As consistent I am and regimented, I can be with the health stuff,

I can be kind of an airhead with scheduling. you know, making sure that, though they probably back there laughing at me, doing side eyes at my people, because it's like, Eric is the worst. Eric is supposed to be on this fucking Zoom. Where are you? Oh, fuck, that's right.

You know, so I'm a bit of a mess. You're trying to be better there. I'm trying to be better. I'm a bit of a mess. All right, I'm going to run through a couple before we let you go. So if you weren't drinking, you wouldn't be coughing. You think that's what it was? It was the mimosa that I had this morning.

I had a mimosa this morning. See? Terrible. My skin is terrible. No, that's fine. I think I'm okay. We're about to wrap anyway. Let me just do this quick. In real life.

In real life, when are you at your happiest? In real life, I'm at my happiest when I'm with my kids playing a game or watching them laugh or making them crack up laughing or something like that. Well, in real life, when was the last time you cried? Could be sadness, could be gratitude, could be joy. The last time I cried a week ago. A week ago, my daughter, Luna, graduated from sixth grade, and she gave a speech and it wrecked me. What do you mean?

It just it just wrecked me. Oh, see, if I even talk about it, I might start crying. Oh, my God. What was it though? What did she say? She talked about how much, how afraid she was. She remembers being how afraid she was the first time she came to that school and the confidence that it instilled her and then she got to mama and daddy. Oh my God, you're going to make me emotional.

She said that, you know, as I said, Manuela is just an incredibly attentive and supportive and every detail she has. And she thanked her mother for just holding her life together. and then she thanked me for every, because I dropped them off to school in the morning. She said, Daddy, every day you tell me that you love me and you tell me that my light never, never, dim the light that's shining so bright. I was done.

Like ugly crying? I was done. I was trying to hold it together. You know, it was, yeah, it was like that. That was the last time I cried. That's a good cry. Yeah. That's a good cry.

Yeah. We already did self-care. What's your real life guilty pleasure? Hmm. My real life guilty pleasure is probably watching Karen's getting caught by the police on social media. I watch that shit forever. I love when the police just catch people like doing wrong. shit and then they got an attitude, I'll be that, I'll look up and it'll be like,

damn, I'm going to watch this shit for an hour and a half. When you find such content? Where is this anywhere? It's your algorithm knows you. It'd be like, oh, this nigger watched like 12 at ease yesterday. I'm going to send them 30. And I just love watching Karen's get handcuffs put on them. It's the best. That's really funny. What is your superpower, your real life superpower? My superpower is that, Creatively, I think I can fucking do anything.

Really? Yeah. Like I, I've never taken a music lesson. I wrote a short story that turned into a TV show. I'm writing a book right now. I just finished the manuscript. Is it a, I use, it's a mid-grade fantasy adventure. Oh.

Yeah. And yeah. Then you'll do a memoir at some point. What do we, where do we title it? Lessons and the headlines. or the lessons behind the headlines? We told. That was good.

Yeah, what was it? I'm like, because it rolled off so. Easy, yeah. The lessons and the headlines. I think that's going to rewind the tape and go back and send it to you. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe, maybe at some point. A memoir?

Yeah, you wouldn't do it. I want to accomplish a little bit more shit. Okay. What's left on the bucket list for you? You know. I want to write a series of novels. I'm working on launching another film company with a friend. I want to get that off the ground. Good.

Shit, by next week it'll probably be two more things. You're just going to keep going, right? How often do you think about your legacy? Never. No? I don't think about it. Because I mean, to think about the legacy means to start thinking about, all right. It's all done.

done, how will they remember me? It's like, I don't think about that shit. You know? I got too much shit to do. Yeah, but do you think about, I don't know what you want people to learn from you? If like, even this conversation. I think about that. Yeah.

I think about that. I hope, I hope that the good, bad, and the indifferent is not only like teaching me lessons, but I hope I'm inadvertently teaching other people lessons. too. And what are you most proud of? We talked about all the ups and downs. I don't mean just like our, well, I guess you said your kids. Yeah, it sounds like such a cliche answer, but everything else pales in comparison. When I see what they can do and I see like like India, Lucia and Luna, they are just so fucking talented. Like they can, they kind of have that me thing where it's like, okay, I think I'm going to start doing aerial dancing, or I think I'm going to try out for this play and then they get the lead.

You created a world for them where they could think that way. Yeah, it's beautiful. Absolutely. But about you? That's really what the question was. What are you most proud of about yourself? That I'm always willing to learn and grow and I'm always willing to admit when I'm wrong. I guess. And I smell good. You smell good? I smell good.

Naturally? And I look good. Remember that James Brown thing? That's pretty good. My last question is in the bowl. It's my favorite question in the IRL bowl. You got a text right now. Yeah.

And it was from God. God. God were to text you right now. Like God or black God. You're God. Okay. Hey! Shando.

All right. Is that what you call him? Okay. If God would have text you right now, what would it say? Woo! Never got that question before, Angie. Where'd you get that? I don't know.

We came up with it in, I don't know, early in the pod. I just came up. I think it just says a lot about what you truly care about, you know, like what's truly really important to you today. If the text came today, like, what would it say? I would think that God would tell me to, shit. You're just...

You think about it. You don't have to rush it. I was just thinking in true fashion of me, making sure I can answer a question. I think my text today would probably, it would be to the effect that something about, it my text today would be like, you did great because you trusted me. Hmm. So just keep doing that. So just keep doing that.

I think my idea of God is like somebody who, a being who is loving and encouraging, as opposed to like First Testament type shit. Mm-hmm. You're not a religious guy. No. Spiritual? No, absolutely. I do believe in God. I believe in the power of love and positivity. And I think negativity is a very powerful evil force.

I think that God would say something to me, like, I love you. But he would probably say something that I would understand, like, I love you, but I would know exactly what he meant. What does that mean? That means, like, all the positivity I'm trying to grow from and speak on. Like, do it even more. Like all of the projects that you're working on that you think can help or uplift, put more into it. You know, all of the energy that you spend with your children where you're nurturing them and teaching them to respect and love themselves and realize that they can do anything. Do that even more.

I think it would be something like that. Do more. That's so you. Think so? Yeah. You don't? How so? Look at your whole life.

Look at your whole career. How can I be better? How can I do more? How can I do a new label? How can I do new songs? Because if he didn't say that I love you first, I would have been like, and just got the do more. Just do more. I've been like, damn, I'm fucking up.

Yeah. Yeah. But if he was like, I love you, just do a little bit more. Do you feel like you're not doing enough? Never. Well, there you have it. There it is. That's Eric Bonae in real life. Right.

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