Joe and Jada - Angie Martinez IRL - June Ambrose: Styling Icons, Grief Attacks In Paris & Never Chasing Clout

Episode Date: March 12, 2026

Fashion icon June Ambrose sits down with Angie Martinez to talk about styling the likes of Jay-Z, Beyonce, Mariah Carey, Busta Rhymes, and Missy Elliott. June recalls styling Angie during her MTV VMA's performance of "Ladies Night,” finding joy on the other end of losing her mother, and not receiving an invite to the Met Gala. Finally, June answers questions from our IRL Bowl of Questions, and explains why it is so important for her to be seen.All lines provided by ‪Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Get to know Ego. Follow Thanks, Dad with Ego Wodom and start listening on the free Iheart Radio app today. You need a little bit of main character energy. But some people don't want it. You know, again, I had my conversation, my sister, she's like, I don't want the attention. She was like, you've always liked attention. You know, she's like, we're so different, right? I'm like, you don't want the attention, but yet when you get a compliment, you come on yourself.

I mean, it's like, you know, it's like an orgasmic. You know, someone tells you look pretty. Thanks for watching, guys. Today's episode is brought to you by Boost Mobile. Today's episode is about fashion. No, it's not about fashion. It will be about fashion, but it is more than a fashion conversation. June Ambrose has.

helped build the visual identity of hip-hop from the ground up and many other things. She has many accolades. She has done this as a woman, a black woman, a self-taught, no roadmap. She raised a generation of stylists. She's raised two children, all while busing her ass. For over 25 years, she's dressed icons like J-Z, Mariah Carey, Missy Elliott, and so many more. And she's now celebrating her own capsule collection with Naturalizer, what she has on today. And they're so cute. We'll get a close-up of them later. And she's just just a badass. We love her. June Ambrose is in the building today. Thank you.

Now, I'm like, I'm a very introduction. Ah. No, I feel like I don't have to say anything. That's it. You're just here. I always like, Google me. No. Hi, June. How are you? June. Oh, June. No. You and she. How is life? How is real life? Life is good. Is it? Life is good. I mean, you know, I'm an empty nester now, so life is I'm adjusting. Oh, that's tough.

It is. It is like, you feel like I have, like, new skin, like I have two adults that really don't need me like they used to. And they need me

in a different way. Yeah. But it's, I feel like I'm my second half of the game. We've had this conversation a few times on the pod because Lala came here right after Kayan went to school.

She was her only son, she was single mom. Oh, my goodness. It really hit her hard. Oh, yeah. My friends with the only one child thing, I always check on them. It's like,

are you okay? Yeah, you okay. When Summer went to college, everybody was because they know how close my daughter and I am. And they're like, but my son and I are very close too, but they were just like, are you okay. But Summer and I are very visible. Yeah, yeah. We're like, you know, we're the June and Summer Show.

Yeah. And I was like, I am okay because I've spent so much time with her. I'm actually happy for them. Like I want, I felt good. I felt accomplished. Like I had raised humans, not by myself, obviously, but like that I've raised young Adelaus that were ready. And that to me is why I'm okay. But do you miss them? Oh my goodness. Yeah. Do they talk you talk every day? It's like a thing. Like it's summer at least four or five. My son,

he's, you know, he'll go off in the wind. He's gone with the wind. But like, yeah, we're a speaking family. We have a group of family, group chat. Like, it's important that we speak constantly. And it's so much going on in the world. And Summer's out of state and she's a sheltered baby child, but very impressively independent. There is so much going on in the world. There is. That it's like, who did I see the other day post? I think it was Adrian Hohen, Adrian Bailon. She posted that she's navigating her political rage while also exercising self-care. She was on her way to the gym. It's a really good way to put it. Right? Like trying to manage that balance. How do you do that June.

Oof, you know, for, I'm a, I prefer to lean on the side of joy because I know what grief feels like, and that's way too heavy. And when I experienced it for the, like, first time, because I realized I've never been sad. And because I'm just so always like, people like, you live in another planet. That's why I come up with the universe, because I'm literally happy, happy all the time. Are you really? Is that real? It's real.

It is real? It's an endorphine realness. Yeah, it's like a, it's a little girl thing. It's a sense memory that I've tapped into that I know to constantly tap into it, right? And I think secretly the years of studying theater and drama being a theatrical major, I don't tell that to a lot of people,

has taught me how to tap into sense memories that enable me to stay mentally solid. Because even on a bad day or if I'm disappointed, I can remember the things that bought me joy. I tap into them like an actress. we would tap into something that needs her to cry. You know, that exercise, that's a muscle. You know, that's a, you know, like joy is a muscle.

You have to exercise what that feels like and know that it's okay to keep lifting that. I don't understand how you do that. Explain. No, no, teach me that because, okay, so it's a bad day. We're at war. Yeah. I think broken.

My this dad. My mother's sick. But, you know, like, whatever, whatever could be going on is going on. Yeah. And now, today I need to tap into some joy. It's like sex. You have to be present, right? Into like what is going to make you feel good and what's feeling good in that moment.

Okay, how do you do it? To get to that climactic place. So think about that experience. I know it's probably a weird thing. No, no, it's whatever works. You know, sex is so private. Yeah. But you have to be present in it or, you know, you don't get to enjoy it, right?

So it's like joy is the same way. It's like that feeling of what makes you, can't give you butterflies, what makes you giggle, what made you laugh, like, what makes you want to dance, that song that just makes you feel so good, you high. Like, I've never had a drink of smoking my life, and people always think I'm stoned at parties or when at clubs, because I'm like,

you've never had a cocktail? Never. I just said to you, because I was going to take you golf. I was like, oh, we have a cocktail, and you were like, oh, yeah, a cocktail. Yeah, of course, or you're a mocktail for me. It's a mocktail. Yeah, frocktail. And all this joy, all the time.

I was always a happy kid. So, because I didn't have, like, I was so spoiled and didn't have a lot of responsibility. But as an adult, we have so many, and that could be a real drag. Yeah. So I'm always asking my young self to please, you just remind me of what that felt like to have no responsibility. But tell me a time when you were down and then had to find the joy and then how you found it.

Oh, man. My mom passed away. When was that? Eight years ago. And it feels like yesterday. And I, um, I, um, I, um, I, I realized I never knew what sadness felt like. It was so foreign.

By the way, how blessed are you that you didn't know what sadness felt like until eight years ago? Right? Wow. That was like, because I was always sheltered from like when someone died, no June's not going to the funeral or, you know, I was always sheltered, you know, from all of that. They protected me from those kind of things. They were very sensitive. An ambulance would go by and I'd be like, so I was dying and I start crying. a kid like I was so emotional like I hate people to be sad or I hate to see people in pain I just

feel like you're an impasse I'm so empathic and so yes I and so your parents understood that yeah my mother was um yeah she understood that and she um really nurtured me with that but interesting enough when she was preparing to leave um she told me that it was okay to go had left town. So when I got the news, I was in California and I was getting ready for the on-the-run tour. And I wasn't going to go, obviously, because she was, you know, sick in the hospital. So I was like, you know, trying to figure out how to figure out maybe it could just prep it. And, you know, I never go on the road, for one. I don't travel with, if I design a tour, design the tour, and then the wardrobe supervisors and the team take it over. I'm never on the road with it. But this

time, you know, she had transitioned over and the tour was going out and had to be in Paris with, with J&B, like maybe two weeks later. And I didn't want to grieve in front of my kids. And my husband had, we had talked about it as a family and he, you know, he said if there was any two people that I think, you know, that I would feel okay with you being around during this time. It would be those two. I hate talking about it. Gets me emotional. You make me cry. And yeah, I was having grief attacks constantly.

And, yeah, you know, he got me, Jay got me through it. Yeah, he did. How? I was so. He said it was okay. He said, just let it run through you. And you know how people would be like, don't cry. Let it go.

Cry. Cry. And he said it was okay to be. you know, you feel guilty, you're at work, and you're like, looking at, like, we're, you know, looking at rehearsals, and I'm fighting, something just switched. The switch just turns off. Just, ah.

And he would look over him, and I would just be crying. I'm like, I'm so sorry. It's okay. Like, you know, it's, it's, that's kindness. It's, oh, empathy and kindness. And you, I've known him for so many, years and if he could ever as a friend if anyone could ever give me anything it was that the grace of just being there while I go through the most life-changing experience of my life and it end up being

one of the most you know creative you know for me I needed it like a new like reset creatively I even look like I'm like who is that person I just look so different but I felt like I looked like I looked like my mother so much. And I had so many life-changing experiences in Paris as I was going through. I had my team around me, which was great. That was a great tour, too. Oh, man. And I did niece.

So you know, it was like. I did the niece show. Yeah, I just remember, like, the first time I, like, smiled or laughed during that time, that grief period when you kind of, like, people say you sit shiva, where you feel like you're not supposed to do anything that you feel guilty about. feeling that joy because you're paying respect to that person that you've lost. And every city that I went to, I visited, I put a lock of my mother's initial on, I left it in every city, on a fence, on a bridge, something.

I was getting locks in every city. And I was locking her initial. I was taking her with me through that travel and all the places that she, I knew she would want me to see and go. Yeah. So she knew that's where you were going. She knew going on that tour.

She knew that I had work. She always was like, go to work. Because like, you know, when you have your own business and the phone rings, you got to take that job. You got to take that gig because you're self-employed and you know, you're the CEO and you have to run, it doesn't work without you. So she knew that.

And she, yeah, I think that she knew she let go just in just in time. Hey guys. So today's show is Breed. to you by our presenting sponsor Hard Rock Bet, Florida's Sportsbook. March is here, and that means college basketball takes center stage. The stakes are rising.

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Especially when you're dealing with creatives. Oh, my goodness. When they got to go on stage and bring joy to millions of people, you're in the dressing room with them backstage. And you're not just wallpaper. Like we're in their space. We're energy. You know, we're energy. And you know this. Yeah. I mean, over 30 years being around creatives. And that's why I've always approached it from a collaborative space. So they recognize that I'm an artist too. and I'm serious about my shit too, you know?

So it's like the same way that you're like passionate about what you do when you're in that booth and you're, you know, and if I have to put looks to the lyrics and I'm just, I'm sensitive about my shit to it. But I don't make it about me and I give so much making sure that they're prepared and they feel safe and that they feel like they can own this, you know, a moment.

I think the best work is done when you know, you can't tell someone did it, someone else did it for them. I think that's when it's like truly authentic. Yeah. That to me is at the heart of like what a good costume designer or stylist. Or collaborator in general. A good co-writer. Yeah.

You know, with your writing team in the studio, all that. Yeah. I just think it's special when you have, when you're able to find your safe spaces to have those moments. Because especially women, right? Women in business, women who have to. We're nerds. We came up. We're not only nurturers, but we have to, it's a strength that we carry around.

And so in our most vulnerable or sad or sometimes, you know, we don't want to bring that in a room. Right. I'd never want to bring it in a room. Yeah. And sometimes you walk into a room and you have to read the room quickly and know what you need to give someone in that moment and sometimes it's just quiet. I just wonder what gave you the comfort to be okay. to share yourself in that moment. The permission, right?

It's like, yeah. I had to give myself permission to do that. Because growing up, single parent home, you do a lot of, I was a latchkey kid. You do a lot of self-reflecting. You know, your parents can only do so much, right? Like my mom was such a like, we're back to her again. I think she's at the center of everything. Yeah, she's here in the room.

She couldn't be there. She couldn't watch us 24-7. because she was providing. So it was like we had to take responsibility at a very early age for our actions and recognize that they had consequences. Everything that we did not only affected us, but it would affect her. And we didn't want to disappoint because we recognized where she was sacrificing at a very young age. Not because she, you know, I never got a spanking.

My mother wasn't a yeller. You know, it's like a punishment lasted maybe like 30 minutes because she felt bad for me pounding in the corner. It's like, you're not to that. So I was like at the, I was, I'm like the epitome of spoiled, right? Like, just a hot mask. You were coddled. So I think like, yeah, I was coddled.

So when you say like, what gave me the permission? It's like, I didn't know any other way but to get what I wanted. You know, so I was always very precocious. I was always just like, why not? Like, why not try this? Like, who's going to stop me? Like, there was no one to stop. And then as a parent, when she was supposed to like kind of protect me from like fashion decisions.

I just remember, I never forget this night day. I was like, it was. Rain is snowing outside. I always wanted to wear my church clothes to school. Like it was a thing. I always wanted to wear my Sunday dress with like sneakers or boots or just disrupt things, take it out of context. And that was who I always was from a very young age.

And she was like, you cannot wear your church shoes with your sweatpants or your jeans. Those are your church shoes. And it's slippery and you're going to fall. I'm like, I was like, it's my outfit. I'm not, I was like, it was a big fight. She was like, go. I leave out of that building. I come back five minutes later, crying.

Busted your ass. Busted my ass. Bruised up, slayed down the hill. But cute, though. Look cute. She said, I told you, like, I'm not telling you because I want to change who you are. I was just telling you because I'm trying to protect you. But the beautiful thing is she didn't overproduce me.

So I was always able to wear a cape, you know, at a very young age. Even growing up in the Bronx, they didn't understand what I was giving. They used to call me all kinds of names. And we were, you know, I'm from the West Indies. So being cool, being Caribbean back then was not cool. Before the Fugees, you were like, they would say all kind of horrible, derogatory things to people with accents. And being from the islands was not a thing. And this is like black on black crime.

Hispanics, like slurring at us. I grew up in a predominantly Hispanic neighborhood. But, Awalita, you know, you know, da me a coquito. Like, you know, it's like, I was, I was, I was from, I was Puerto Rican. Yeah, I was from the Bronx. Yeah. But the discrimination against, you know, Hispanics and blacks back then was no different. They were like, it was black and white.

It was unreal. Yeah. It's mind-blowing. Yeah. So, you know, we've all experienced it in some way. Yeah. I think I've gotten it from everywhere. I love that she gave you that type of permission.

So wait, so okay, so you're young, you have all these little cute looks going on. This is clearly this is a gift, right? Like your fashion sense, what do you attribute that to? Is it a gift? It is a gift, but is also a muscle. And, you know, creativity is absorbed in many different ways. You know, when my kids, as a parent, like I would take my kids to the museum. I would expose them to a lot of different things.

My mom did the same thing for me too as well. early, you know, when I was younger, she would take us down to CBS Studios. We'll leave the Bronx and go to Midtown and go to the city, go to Central Park very, very early. So taking us out of the environment, she sent me away to Nunday, New York to like to live on a farm for two weeks, you know, with a white family with the fresh year fund. Like these things are a life-changing and it also play into creativity because it helps you to see the world from a different, through a different lens. And, you know, You can't have tunnel vision as a creative. So for me, it was as much exposure as I could give my kids and as much exposure as I received growing up in a inner city was very, very, I think, crucial to who I became. That makes sense. Yeah, I think that was a big part of it.

And then studying, like, theater. That's interesting, and that's probably great for all parents to hear. It's like, how do you nurture? I'm Clayton Eckerd, and in 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan. He became the first bachelor to ever have his final rose rejected. The internet turned on him. If I could press a button and rewind it all, I would.

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That is exposing them to. We have so much, we have so much more information that we didn't have then. Like in school, they were just like, oh, she, you know, she can't keep focused. She's always yapping. You know, every report card said the same thing. No one said attention deficit. No one used those in ADHD. Nobody said any of that.

She's a creative. No one said that. Even though I showed creativity, even from elementary school, I put on my first fashion show in my elementary school. I organized it and produced it. Of course you did. It was insane. I was like I would make, I was a hustler too because I needed money, extra money. So I would make book covers.

Like at the time when we, you know, the books, we had to protect our books, our textbooks. Because if they came back damage, your parents would have to pay for them. So we would cover them with, you know, papers. I was making custom book covers and sell. selling them for 10 cents and five cents. I was making crepe paper and sewing pencil holders and selling those at schools. I was very enterprising.

That's amazing. I've always, like, entrepreneurship has always been like, it's always been in my, in my DNA. So creativity, it's the combination of creativity and entrepreneurship together that creates a Jew and Ambrose. But you know what else, too? It's like, I was thinking about this earlier too, and this probably pertains to a lot of people,

even outside what you do. in acts of service people who are in like service business or assistance or secretary or people who support other people or help other people sometimes can get a little bit lost in the secondary position

right but you have seemed to find a way you did find a way not seem to but you have found a way to make sure like you said like even with Jay how you this is collaborative and was it always like that? Did you have to find that? Because I can see that people in those type of positions. I always, I admire those type of positions because they do sometimes get lost. I have many friends

who support other people. And I'm always like, you need a little bit of main character energy. But some people, that's like, some people don't want it. You know, again, I had my conversation, my sister, she's like, I don't want the attention. She was like, you've always liked attention. You know, she's like, we're so different, right? I'm like, you don't want the attention. And I'm like, you don't want the attention, but yet when you get a compliment, you come on yourself. I mean, it's like, you know, it's like, it's like an orgasmic. You get it. You know, someone tells you look pretty.

She loves it. Everyone, who doesn't love a compliment? No, but I understand her. There is a difference. There is a difference. You know, I'm like, I, but listen. You would think I'm not, I'm more like her. I don't enjoy.

I believe you, but when you, but I don't feel like, but I feel like you, you have received what that feels like when you walk into a building, you know what it's like. People recognize you all the time. Yeah. You're like. No, no, I appreciate a moment or I appreciate it. If I'm in something that makes me feel good and I get a compliment.

Listen. I appreciate that. I'm modest too. Don't get me wrong. I'm very modest. And I can be very shy. I know that's very confusing. You walk around Manhattan with this hat on your head.

I know. You are not trying to blend in anywhere. I know. You want to be seen. You are comfortable seeing being. You are comfortable. I am because I like making friends and I like meeting people and I feel like it's like it attracts like you know the energy that I want even if you don't get it I'll never forget I got off a plane from

LA and there was this and this was recent because I've been wearing these cowboy hats for like three years now and the the person with the wheelchairs it comes up people with the wheelchairs I come off the planet I'm like I'm a blanket I look like I just came from another planet and she starts she laughs in my face and she was like you look like a woman. which, this is what she said to me. And I was like, so it comes at a price, right? It's like, the good and the bad. Well, it could have been bad.

It didn't end good for her. But I, you know, I was like, wow, I could be a victim and actually take offense to what she was saying or realize that I can't be everything to everyone. So when you think about that, it's like, you know, I go back to artists again. You know, you can't make music, you know, for the audience. You have to make music for yourself. That you love that, you know.

That's like what, it's an expression of who you are. So I thought about it in the same way. You know, my initial reaction was how dare you? Right. I was like, how dare you speak to me that way? And I said to her, I said, that is not very nice. Because you don't understand, doesn't make it okay for you to speak to me that way. Good for you.

And it just, and it was quick because we were hustling, we're walking off the plane. But I had to say it in order to recover. So I like to unpack trauma quick. I don't like to hold on to trauma because that could change how I start to see myself or, you know, think about the young me, someone's judging you. And you immediately think, okay, this didn't work for that person. No one's going to like it. Let me conform to what society finds to be acceptable. And I was just like, I'm not, I live in the universe.

And I don't, I believe in the universe there are other planets and tons of stars. And there's this empty space that I can exist in and attract and that light and all of those things that happens in space is where I rather live. I need my own universe. I need that. Planet Earth can be cruel. I know we should all have a Juniverse. Like what is your, what is your, like what is your, like? what is your angiverse?

Yeah, like, what is my angiverse? Everybody should figure out what is the way that you operate through the world that is only yours and that you protect it so that you don't lose yourself in other people's, whatever, expectations, opinions, all those things. But think about it. It's like when artists get on stage, you know, they are immediately transformed that the energy that you get from the audience. that it's almost like it's a high.

You know, it's like when people like, you know, fame is a drug, you know, people get really intoxicated by it. I don't subscribe to like fame. I subscribe to like energy, right? It's a source. It's how it's at the end of my life, at the end of this journey, I would hope that people remember the way I made them feel. And I think fashion and style is an expression of that.

And however provocative and whatever opinion you may have drawn from what I was presenting, I still made you feel a certain way. And I could live with that, right? I could look for that. And that's how I want to live in my life, constantly reinventing myself. That's pretty great. Constantly, you know, I think that's the unlock. Yes.

But you do have to do what you do. There does have to be a certain, like how you said the difference between you and your sister. Yeah. Because I don't think everybody, like you said, some people don't want that. No, they do. I have come to terms with it. I do not wish to walk. Sometimes I walk around the city with a gray hoodie on and some, and whatever.

Like, just that's it. I like blending. Right. I just like it. And it's a trend, right? It's also like a trend, right? Well, I don't do it to be a trend. Well, quiet luxury right now, they say.

Okay, well, lucky me. So you are a timeless, quite luxury. That's not my point. I'm just acknowledging the difference in types of personalities where fashion is concerned. Yeah, I have to know. I have to acknowledge it too as well. To be honest, I have to acknowledge it. When I design a collection, when I'm putting out collaborations and co-branding,

I have to think about the customer that it's a very interesting. When you start to create consumer goods, you have to think about that person. that doesn't want that much attention. That much attention. But then you also have to create something that's going to push them a little bit out of their comfort zone, which I've done my entire career.

Yeah, yeah. My job is to forecast, is to insist that you feel something in the experience, right, of transforming, evolving. What we're doing is something very transformative. You know, when you're in charge, when you are collaborating with someone and you're in charge of their image and likeness,

and sometimes it's not collaborative, sometimes someone is like, take me, figure it out for me, me, you know, like, I can't articulate what it is that I know I want to be. So just show me and I'll let you know how it, if it, if it, if it feels right. Sometimes it's, it's like that. It's not always like someone's telling you, you know. Is that more fun for you? Yeah, honestly, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would let you do that. I would let, I would let you, I would submit. I mean, we had this experience before when MTV Awards. You were like, oh, Lord, you know,

like, Angie's was like, I don't want to wear this goal. But we got a lot of attention. We did. And she was so bad at me. I was so mad. No, here's what I was like, you made me the tin woman. I was like, here's why I was mad at you.

Was it ladies first? It was ladies night. Ladies night. It was, I think we should talk about it, right? We should talk about it. It's not always going to be, you know. Because I don't blame you though, because this is not your fault. I take responsibility, though.

Yeah, but this is not your fault. Here's what happened. I'm a young girl who gets thrown into this mix with these experience. experienced artist. I was not an artist. I had no real experience in public, and definitely not performance. Getting on stage, MTV Awards was a big deal. We just, I didn't know where I just hopped on a song and the song went crazy. It was crazy. And we got a Grammy nomination. We're at the MTV Awards. I don't have a team. I don't have a stylist. I don't have all the things that all the other girls had. You didn't develop that trust. So they did, you were not even my stylist.

No, I know. They said to you. And you definitely didn't trust me. You didn't know me. Because I didn't know you. You were like, no way. It's not that I didn't trust you. It's that they said, here, June, take care of her too. And I witnessed. Yeah, yeah.

What? What is it? I don't have any. I wouldn't. And I was customing everything then. I was literally custom designing everything at that time. And they gave you this girl. I think I had a day.

We didn't even collaborate on it. We didn't have a conversation. We didn't have time. We didn't take time and say to me, okay, what is? I didn't get to present sketches. Angie Martinez. Who is Angie Martinez? We didn't have any of that.

They threw me to you. I was like, this is the thing. When you were already in a thing, you put me in the theme, which was fine. And then the day of the awards, I had no shoes. Oh, my God. See, remember all the details. You know what? It's in my book.

It's in my book. Oh, my God. I had no shoes. And then I said, well, what am? I'm standing there. We're about to go out. And I have no shoes on my feet. You have to give you Tim's, I think.

Somebody came running down and said, Jun said, wear these. And they were. These ashes, like, I really hate you. No, I did. I didn't love you that moment. There were these big chunky black shoes, which had we had some time together, you would know these are not the shoes for her. I'm a perfectionist, too.

So I don't blame you because they threw me at you. And that was, you know what I learned in that moment is like, I have to be in control. Yeah. But I didn't know better at the time. I was fresh and young, whatever. Life experience. But I learned. Yeah.

I learned because what I would never do again. You were like this ain't going to happen again. I was not going to show up in an event unprepared, not knowing what I was going to wear. not knowing who was going to help me wear. Like I did all that. And you needed your person. So you just happened to be the poor person. It was the story of my life.

But I also had to be the person that nurtured that you were unhappy, that you were, that you were nervous about everything. Like I recognize all of those things in the moment. And that's why I said, do over one thing. Yeah. That's why I said I take responsibility. because even though we all of these things, of course I left. If you weren't happy, I knew that.

I felt I took responsibility for that because it was my job to make sure you were regardless. So when I say to you like, that will always sit with me. But, you know, I can't make excuses. And I think a good leader doesn't make excuses. You take responsibility, you apologize. And that's how you're. you, again, unpack the trauma, own it, and move on.

Because if I sit and give you excuses, oh, blah, blah, blah, you know, I didn't have time to throw it to me. You don't want to hear that. Only that I can look at you and say, is, you know, Angie, you are 100% right. I recognize that you are unhappy, and I apologize. And you shouldn't have to experience that. That's my job. Yeah.

That's my role. That's what I take on when I say yes. Yeah. And if I didn't want to take it on, I shouldn't have said yes. I did. So I have to own it. But you were young too, by the way. Of course.

But I'm saying, like, I felt it. Like, I owned it. Yeah. You know, I didn't, I wasn't happy that you were unhappy. Oh, June. Yeah. We're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to have a do-over. We're going to wear the June.

An anniversary. Neutral. Yeah. You need more than that. I'm up to, yeah, I'm going to do it all. I'm going to do it out. You know, it's so funny. I had this conversation.

I'm going to name a shoe after you. I'll stop. The Angie. We had this conversation. I had this conversation. a couple months ago with FERG. You know, Ferg. Yeah, of course.

Do you not love him? Oh, my God, he's amazing. I just love him. I love how he sees me, too. How does he see? He probably adores you. Yeah, he, you know, it's like this is a different. I recognize our generation is so different from this.

He's in the new somewhat. He's in the middle of the new. Yeah, yeah. He's in the middle. Yeah, he's like in high school. Yeah, but there's a new, there's a generation of young designers creative directors that all are like, you know,

inspired by you. And like, even recently, you know, ASAP with, you know, and people don't know that I was a costume designer

for belly. And they redid that scene. Yeah. For Raypan. And I, for me, I sit back and I feel so relevant.

Because you designed that first, the original scene. The movie was mine. You look at the film, costume designer, June Ambrose. Yeah.

In the opening credit. You know, so for me that was It was great Immediately said, you know, I had texting, Hype Williams and I had texting And I'm like, this is great, you know Do you need the recognition for that?

No, I mean, that was enough for me I'm just used to not getting it Are you really? I was wondering about that. Yeah, yeah. What is that, does that, I don't know, does it eat at you? Do you care?

I can't give it that, I can't give them that much power because if I, if I, if I, that's like becoming this victim, you know. Yeah. Oh, people like, oh, you need your flowers. No, no, no, I get my flowers. I am very blessed. I am like my, I am still like in it.

Yeah. And to me, that is that blessing, being able, the phone still, like that, people still wanting to collaborate with me, you know, being able to bring product to the marketplace to the larger consumer, you know, being able to have that. I spent four years at, like, you know, launching women's basketball at a time when women's basketball wasn't even a thing at Puma and in the industry and now look at women in basketball. I was ahead of it.

I said, this is something that we need to really get behind and support, like they're counting on us. The same way I felt about hip-hop culture, it crossing over into high fashion. So again, my conversations with Asaph Ferg, it's like, you know, he recognized my contribution, you know, my Buster Rhimes, my Missy Ellis, my Jay-C, all that stuff that I can't continue to like ride on because it's to me it's like two decades old. Yes, it's bad. You know, I need to be able to be relevant to something else. I'm like, I'm glad you guys are like, but for me, I'm like, okay, like, I don't want to be a has-been. So what do you do? What's your, you know, like, for me, I'm always like, what's my next?

What's next? What can I crack and break the mold on next? And, you know, when I was, you know, when I partnered with, you know, Puma to work with them and launched that division, that was like, for me, that was like the next. Like, that was an important task because you're talking about a culture that we need. needed to build and form and create. And I was responsible for that. I like responsibility. Yeah.

You own it. I like put your arms around there. The thing I wanted to go back to with FERG, we had this conversation about, I was telling him about an experience that I had. I'd never really been to a fashion show. And there was somebody, we were having this conversation. And somebody was talking about somebody else and they said, oh, she reeks of effort.

And they weren't talking about me. No, but somebody else. But. That's what I said. I felt that. I was like, yeah, she does reconvra. I don't want to ever feel like I am reeking of efforts. Like I don't.

Such a fashion snobb statement. It is a snobby statement. But also it's a real life statement because it's like, do you? Because we were also talking about flow state. And like, should you have to be trying so hard to impress people, be part of what's hot, what's part of what's popping? Like, where is the line? Because you're a soulful person too. You're not just a creative or a fact.

girl, right? So where is the line between how you present where fashion is concerned and what's inside and what matters on the inside? Like, where do you, how do you navigate that? Because I'm sure you've even been in some fashion rooms where you're like, oh, these people are full of shit. I honestly, I don't even consider myself to be like a fashion girl. Really? That, it's like, first of all, everything is so segregated. Like, you know, you go to fashion shows now, you have the editors and the Condi Nest. You know, you have the editorial stylists.

You have the, you know, the music culture athlete, you know, stylist. And then you have the influencers. So, like, everyone's in, like, these buckets. And everyone has an opinion about everyone. and it's like, it's a thing. Yeah. And I just want to be in the universe. I don't want to be part of it because I feel like it's so alienated.

That is the best way to explain it. Yeah. It's like what is true to you? Yeah. Is really the answer to the question. It's like, you know what? Especially at this age, I'm like, what do you want for me? I'm just trying to enjoy this time.

I want to wear what feet. Like, what to you? What is? What is? I don't have to ask permission. I know, but what is, like, what do you appreciate about a wealth, somebody who comes in? It, it is ownership. It is, like, looking at someone who, I really enjoy watching someone.

Even when it's quiet luxury and it's, like, super, like, effortless or it, you know, I, I enjoy people trying. So when someone says, like, it's so much effort, thank God. Because think about it. Yeah. Well, think about it. as a designer, right? If fashion is mute without style. And what is style?

It's a language, it's a conversation, is how you articulate. So if someone doesn't even at least try to tell a story, even if it's effortless or what they may seem to be like, you know, the row very quiet luxury, just a simple t-shirt. And, you know, like very healy Bieber, like very, you know, no hats, no bells and whistles.

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whatever shape I'm doing. And, you know, it's like I'm a little person. And again, I don't want to fit in. I don't want to fit in. I want to, you know, descend on the scene and explode. Yeah, I'm just, I want to arrive. I wish for everybody to find their own universe, whatever that is. Yeah, just like, and if, like, simplicity is your thing, I enjoy that too.

I just love it. I just love when people actually feel like themselves and effortless. because the swag, when people talk about they have that thing, that swag is what translates everything. That's the unlock. You know, you could put the same outfit on two different people, and the swag is so, because the translation is really, it's... What is that?

What is the definition of persona? Definition of swag. It's like the definition of swag is persona. It is confidence, it is attitude, it is, articulation at his finest. And that can't be, that's unmatched. So when people are trying to find themselves, just find the thing that really makes you feel like you're speaking, your language. What about to somebody who wants to, I'm sure we have a lot of women that watch the pod, what about if somebody's bored where they're at or where, or they're, they wear the same things

all the time, they do the same things all the time, and they do the same things all the time, and They want to switch. They want to reimagine. Yeah, what is the recommendation there? I think that you have to step outside of, like, you know, those kind of people typically like to just kind of admire and think because I hear this a lot. Oh, I couldn't do that. Oh, I can't pull that off.

But have you tried? And it could be as simple as changing your lip color, cutting your hair. It doesn't have to be a full overall. Overall, it could be adding a color if you never wear color. If you're a person that only wears like khaki black and white or brown, like very neutral and you throw a neon in there or you throw, you know, like a primary color in there, you've reimagined and reinvented yourself because you've tried something that is not, or perfect example, taking something out of context. Like when I'm creating a design, I'm working on something. I'm always taking out of context. early in my career my signature in design was taking athletic silhouettes and merging them with luxurious fabrics leather, suedees, pony. I was taking the silhouettes were very traditional. A denim jacket or a track jacket silhouette.

but I was reimagining, you know, these things. And that's really what design is. You're reimagining, you know, something. It's the interpretation of, yeah. You're reimagining a silhouette. You're giving it different shape and form, how the peplum's been around forever. But are we using horse here to give it shape

and give it stiffness? Like, what is that fabric and that, you know, the exposition of that pattern that's going to disrupt? Am I doing a blue song sleeve? You want a track jacket, opposed to a traditional drop shoulder, a raglan's inset suite. But adding those little details is designed, reimagined. And, you know, I think about style in the same way. It's how you interpret and take things out of context to make it your own.

It's how you create a conversation. So there's no, like, generic tips. There's no tip across the board that works for everybody. Like, don't do this, do that. There's none of that. I mean, I wrote a book about it. It was very generic. It had all the effortless style,

how to achieve iconic style, you know, effortless style, was the name of my book. And it was very commercial 101 on how to achieve iconic style with ease. Yeah. And it had all of the generic things. We can go back to it.

The fundamentals, right? But we're beyond that now, right? We're at the point where we have to make people uncomfortable. It's okay. uncomfortable is a good feeling. When you first meet someone, you're nervous, you have butterflies, you don't know if you like this person, but you're getting to know them. You're trying it.

You're trying them on. Like when our daughter first started dating, we were like, you got to try on different shoes, different, you know, try, you know, I'm not saying God and be a slut. I'm just saying, you know, date. You know, date. It's okay to date and meet someone and see if you have chemistry. Get to know different types of personality. It's the same thing with discovering the new you, discovering your style.

I'm always going to make. metaphorically and draw interpretations from different life experiences for you to find yourself when it comes to style. Maybe that's the second book. I love that as a book. Thank you, Angie. I'm buying the book. I would buy that book right now.

Where is the line between dressing for yourself and dressing for other people? Because they say, like, when you walk in a room, how you, people will judge you immediately. And, you know, there's reasons why people want to look nice when they go to things. So it's like four other people. But what is, where is the line between being in your universe and dressing for outside approval, opinion? It's, for me, it's like, are you naked or do you have on clothes? You know what I mean? It's like, I mean, I've broken down into my brawn panties on social media.

People thought I was having a life crisis. But I was basically trying to express that self-awareness, self-confidence, being okay with who and what you are is enough. And when you start to feel like just strip down that that's enough, then starting to layer things on top of that starts to feel a little bit more tangible. And it relates back to silhouettes. like finding that silhouette that really makes you feel confident and it's flattering to your body. Both men and women. It comes from a, there's a clinical psychology to that,

how you get to that place. You know, why you may see, you know, certain people wearing things that are ill-fitting and they have no idea that is sabotaging their bodies. Because in their minds, they have come to terms with how they look physically. And they're like, I'm going to wear whatever.

There is an honesty there that even though we may have an opinion about it, that I have to admire. And that is like... You put that on and you came outside and you felt... You own it. So I'm not going to... I have to respect that. Now, I may have an opinion about it where I feel like my opinion is to like, I could offer you something that could be a lot more flattering. but will it disrupt what you have psychologically,

that journey that you've been on? I don't want to compromise. So again, it takes time and the experience of working with someone like myself, it's an evolution. And it's a psychological understanding of what people need to feel confident and to step out in something that

they didn't initially own and we didn't initially own this but we owned our skin our body our flesh we owned that why I went why I was like my body's my temple I went vegan I was like I'm gonna like to me

that is the first thing you take care of the temple the temple and then the confidence is built off of all of that you feel good you know energy is important. Yeah, for sure. But that's maintenance. So people are like, oh my God, how do you have so much energy? Like, I protect

it. I protect my energy. I protect my space. I protect who's in who's in my circle. You take care of your temple? Yes. Because you know. You eat well. I eat well. You exercise. I live well. Yeah, I exercise. Oh, not as much as I should,

but I feel like getting out of the bed and I see dancing. I do. I do get my steps in, but I would like to start to do a little bit more focus work. out. Like, strength training is definitely my focus right now. Yeah. Muscle mass. That's very important. But I wouldn't mind taking like a Pilates and a little bickram to keep my joints loose, you know. Itching is cruel. It can be cruel. Aging can be very cruel. I know. How do you deal with that? Especially in your world where everything is so visual. I mean, you look amazing. Thank you. I, I, you should feel good.

But it probably becomes a little hard. As you get older, it's harder to maintain the looking and feeling good. I mean, honestly, like, I get down a little bit. Like, you know, first of all, comparison is, will rob you of all your joy. Yeah. So I try not to, like, whenever I feel like that feeling of like, oh, my God, like, this is happening. And then you're looking around you and, like, and people are equating, like, Asia relevancy. It's like, I hate ageism.

It's, like, so horrible. that people like, you know, you get a certain age, and they're like, auntie. That's why I'm like, don't call me auntie. I hate an auntie. Like, if you're gonna mama Jew me great, but you better be in your 20s, not in your 40s. Like, it kills me.

You know, it kills me when they start. I'm not a fan of that because I know what that attracts and what that was the connotation behind it. So I'm always like, they're like, oh, just out of respect. You can just, you wanna respect me, call me Ms. Ambrose or, you know, Ms. June or whatever. You want to have respect like a,

a southerner, fine. But auntie, you know, it's a little bit very personal. Yeah, I'm not into it either. Yeah, no, I'm not into it. I'm so glad you're not into it. Very hates it too. Right? It's like, and it's like, what are you trying to say? You know what I mean? Because you know, they'd be trying, they'd be slick talking. You got to catch them quick, them little slick talkism.

They'd be trying it. Like, that's slick talk. What about, does I answer your question? Yeah, it's all like, I can evade. There's no right or wrong answers. I know. It's like, there's no places. We just know. I do. I could have dated a question really quickly. I loved the story about on the run. I wonder about like, because even to go back to that day of me being in that, you know, I was never, I always kind of struggle with weight. Like me. I was up and down, right? And so even back then, even so even in that moment that we talked about with the MTV Awards, I was probably like, you know, I couldn't really wear what Little Kim was wearing. Oh my God. Remember that?

I couldn't wear, you know, I didn't really feel that, but I remember like what you did with Missy. Yeah. Right. We got so much shit for that. I think we were like on the, here's the thing about that. We were like on the worst dress list. We were like, yeah. Wait for that.

I did the plaid hat with the matching golfer cleats and the little thing, right? And that remix the Adidas track jacket and people were like this. next that season Dior runway plaid sportswear clam diggers fabric covered plaid cleats okay listen

so sometimes you have a risk we do a golf I'm just let's do a golf outfit let's do it big let's do it huge let's do it big let's do it very collaborative so people can buy into it

not a one-off I think big now I think enterprising honey okay That's not a conversation. I love this for God. No one-offs. We're building. We're building empires.

We'll get to that later. But, look, Brittany, she loves it. She's like, yes. Could you imagine the talk? No,

but you know, Missy, who was not the sample size either, you found a way to make her fly. And even those Adidas suits, I was like, oh, I'm so happy that these are in style

because you were like, you were like studying them out and do and then I started wearing those and feeling to you and feeling like I was in a you know that you had some creative license right yes we took creative license and that IP we kind of we took so much creative license we were able to I was able to go to Ida us and do the first collaboration artist well not the first because they did run DMC but missy in terms of in her genre I remember at the time female artists first collaboration respect me. I was a creative director with it and her, you know, with her on it. And that was before, so you see all these collaborative like partnerships now. And it's like we, you know, I'm going to say it out

loud. We did it in 2000s. In the 2000s, we did it. And that talk your shit. Yeah. And it's not, you know, it's like we did it because we knew that we were worthy of it. But those seeds, I think, adjusted the way those big brands saw our culture and the power of our influence and the impact that it was going to have. And not just from

you taking and culture boltering it, but you had to partner. You had to partner. And we made it a thing. So the prerequisite was, if you want if you want to play this game, you have to play it with us.

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where somebody sends you, our guest, on the Ambrose, a voicemount. So let's have that. I just have to tell you that I absolutely love and adore you, everything that you stand for for black culture, for black women. And also the drops you've been having on styletics, I love and need every pair and every color. Okay, now that that's out the way,

do you not have to ask you about black designers because I'm noticing this pattern where black designers who have shaped culture and that we all love get dragged the second they make one mistake. And other major retailers do far worse with zero public consequence. And I think about how one article from the cut

essentially like took down Pierre Moss and how most recently with Hanifa, she's getting dragged left and right on the internet because of delayed orders. But I'm like, Sheen has delayed orders all the time. And I don't see any TikToks or think pieces or anything like that about that. Y'all love to go back to Sheehan.

You know what I mean? And as someone who is a legend in OG in the fashion industry, I wanted to ask you, what does responsible accountability actually look like for black brands, especially knowing that the margin of error is so thin and one bad press cycle or one bad article can be lights out for their business. Wow. Well, that's loaded and so provocative and so honest and so true and so sad and so

makes me angry, you know. It makes me angry for so many reasons because we are our worst enemy. You know, and I always tell like, you know, young designers, and I've had this conversation with Laquan Smith early in his career, I used to tell him, stop chasing retail. It's, and this was before there was a Tel-Far. I was like, what Tel-Far built without retail is what I was telling LaQuan. Focus on production, manufacturing, all of those things. You're chasing retail.

that has the ability to destroy your business. And yeah, you'll get there, but you have a community and a culture that has your back and that will show up for you. And that's the thing, right? It's like we will ride a dawn for designers, you know, in the beginning. But like the young lady said, it's like as soon as there's no grace for it. But we've always been held to higher standards where we don't, we have to work hard. harder. As black people, we don't, we're not afford the same opportunities. They, the discrimination is, and I'm speaking about the discrimination from the access perspective in terms of supply chains,

in terms of factors that you would need to fund to get the product made, you know, being able to get that factor to, you know, to give you that money so that you can produce the collections. It's always a challenge for black designers. Sometimes they have to take off seasons. Sometimes they go away. They just lose steam. They just can't. It's just so heartbreaking. They sacrifice so much when others, and it's all financing.

It's all about money. So if something's late, it's because they couldn't, you know, it's access and financing. And it's so frustrating. So it's like, but all of these companies that really want to support merging designers, that's kind of like the thing that needs to take priority is making sure that they have sustainable partners in manufacturing and production, that back end of the business is so key. You know, and for me, like, why I've done partnerships more so than put out my own product is because that financial exposure is heavy.

And I wasn't willing to take that risk for that very reason. I still have my June Ambrose glasses. I still have them in my closet and I still wear them all the time. They're still selling, too. You're so good. Like I'm a C-Pierro. Yay. Like, I don't know, like, a month ago, I bust out the, I have a brown pair.

Amazing. The square ones. And I saw Joe. I saw a fat Joe. And he was like, those glasses are fire. Oh, I love it. Classic junior. Thanks Joe, because Joe said it best.

Yes, today's price. It's not today's price. He's not today's price. He's an icon. For sure. Wow. That was a great question, by the way. It was a really great question.

I think I, did I answer? I think so. Yeah. You know what I would like to know, like to know, like, I love the story. story you tell about going to on the run and how J&B were the perfect people for you to be around in that time. Because

this is in real life and we hear the stories of how you dressed Missy in that iconic video or Buster in that iconic video. I wonder if you could share some of like your real life connection or real life moments that come to you from some of these people. Like

I don't know, we can pick. We can pick where you have something. Wait, where they're going? You're going to say. I was going to tell you artists that you've worked with. Okay, go, go, go. And it's like a real life experience. It's always real life experiences because... All right, let's say, let's say what you have.

Mariah Carey. Oh, my God, yeah. So, Mariah hates, like, wearing bags. Like, she doesn't carry a bag. Doesn't, you know, so I came in on the emancipation of Mimi. And, you know, she also hates drying on clothes. So I literally... Even after my own heart.

I literally... the way I would get her to wear something is to put it on and walk into the room. And she'd be like, take it off. That's good. You know, or like, and like the caftan, like the Tori Burj, calf tan, what people thought was a dress, was a calf tan. We made it into a dress. Like, I understood her, right? So it's like.

Because that's what it would take. It would take you. Because some people could be taken back by that. Oh, I would be like, yeah, girl. I'd be like, because, no, because. Having female experiences is so different from your experience with a male client. Some girls can handle me and some girls can just be like, I just go away, right? Just like, go away.

So, you know, but, you know, like true, like, girls that are like super, like, confident and just think I'm the funniest thing. They get it. You know, they don't, they're not bothered by me. I can name a number of those, those women. But another, like, thing with Mariah, we would always, like, you know, I would always, like, you know, I would always, roleplay with her, we would literally just do movie quotes all day. Mommy Derris or Clueless, literally that's how we would speak to each other. It was not even like a real conversation, moving quotes.

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Oh, my God. So many. Too many. Oh, my God. Okay. Okay, first of all, like, kudos to like, you think about, you're looking at Harry Styles now and you're like, oh, this cross-dressing is so, like, he does it. So, but Buster was, I had put Buster in, he was wearing halters and shit back then. The most feminine cuts ever, you know, he's so masculine.

Wrapping its head up in turbines and, and, you know, and covering timbulin boots. I was custom designing timbrelans, like literally covering them with, like, fabulous, expensive fabrics, Indian fabrics and stuff. like that and made him the rural sultan of hip hop. You know what I mean? Like, he was always, like, he was the vets. Like, he's still the vats. Like, he's just, he was down for it. He was down for it.

Like, every set that we ever did, the Buster on Jenna Jackson music video, like, you know, he was down for us putting multiple pieces of it, sitting in prosthetics. I made him a muscle suit before. I mean, like, I can name the amount of outrageousness that I've done with Buster that he literally, still to this day, I mean, he's no regrets. Oh, I love that. No regrets. I don't think that he feels like he can have, he has the license to be as, we're like a

holter now. I don't think his body's changed. But you still work with him? No, I don't. No, I don't. But we're friends and we stay in touch. She's great. And I consult him, he calls me, he needs something.

He's like, what do you think about this? I'm like, perfect. Oh, that's cute. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I'm on a speed down. Missy Elliott. Yeah. It's my sister, my heart. Yeah.

She, I mean, we just sit that tour together. So, you know, Missy, people don't realize Missy's never been on tour in her career. Her headlined her own tour. Oh, that's right. This was the first. That's crazy. This was the first. Out of this world was this first.

Yeah. And she came to me. And I, you know, I don't take that lightly. because she could have very well collaborated with a big fashion house. But she entrusted that in me, you know, in me. And that to me was such a testament of her character, her understanding and respect for the collaboration early. Yeah, it's just like, you know, it just makes me emotional that after all these years

and there's so many distractions and people that she could. like I said, I've worked with that she allowed the universe to work with her on that. You did well by her. Thank you. We had a good time on that tour. We had some fun. My girl, Mary J. Blige. Oh, I love it.

Mary thinks I'm bad shit crazy. What do you mean? Every time Mary sees me, she goes, girl. When she gets me though, she'd be like, you know, you're like, you know, Mary, like, like I, like I said, I think the best interview I've seen of Mary in forever was the one where she sat and talked to you. Thank you. Because for Mary, energy and authenticity and real talk and real, like, is paramount to her. It's everything.

And she could smell when you being a fake bitch. And I love her for that. You know, she'll come in and she'll read the room quick. Mary will come in with attitude. She's seen me. She'll hate you. Like, you know, because she knows. You know what I mean?

Like, I'm only going to show up. who I am. And I love and respect her so much. And every time I've worked with Mary, we have giggled and had a good time. She thinks that she thinks she thinks I'm nuts. But you know what? It's interesting. When you say sometimes when you're in a service business and you've kind of, you know, you said I managed to kind of be able to live in those two worlds, right? Like artists like Mary respect and sees and recognizes that to where she's like, come in my video, like we could be girlfriends, and I'm like in the music video with her, starring in the video with her.

Whereas like another artist would be like, you're the help. You're not going to be in my music video as a girlfriend. We're walking down the hallway together. Like she has that like reels and day a kind of relationship with her, you know, with her stylist kind of energy. And I thought that was like, she said a lot about like who she was and her confidence. Yeah. As a woman.

I love that. She's the best, right? The best. You did, like, I know you worked with Puff for many years, a bad boy. Yeah. What about the guys? Like, yeah. What about them?

Completely like, you know, that, the dynamic between, like, male artists is, like, that safe place, that trusted, you know, place. It's like getting a prostate exam. You know, it's like, you got to. It's a good scenario. And I was like, no, but it's like, you know, it's intimidating. It can be to work with, like, I. I'm a very strong communicator when it comes to like style with men.

I present differently from the girls. You do? Yeah, yeah. It's a different character. But it's always a place of, you don't have to pretend with me. You know, we could just. And also, it's important with men that you really, they have to be in the driver's seat in a way. It's such a vulnerable place, you know, it's like, you know.

So just a different dynamic. Yeah. Different dynamic. But Jay, too, I would imagine, right? Oh, yeah, but he's great. I mean, like, you know. Like, he is the epitome of effortless, like, the sweat. Like, we're at the point, it's like 30 years later.

It's not even. What do you mean? He styles himself. He does? Yes. It's like, we just hang out. You know what I mean? He's like, yeah, he just, he's an icon.

Yeah. Yeah? The work is, he's an icon. Like, he, it doesn't matter. be a t-shirt. We have fun. It's like not, it's not work. It's not pressure. Mm-mm. Yeah. Just, you know, like, if I want to, like, what does he like or not like? Oh, my God. And he's had to grow into that, too. I would imagine he wasn't like that. I still challenge and push him certain things. You do? Yeah, it's important. Yeah. Because, you know, we're

evolving. Yeah. You know, we have to try. Have you ever pissed him off? Have you ever made him wear something? And then he did not appreciate it after. It was like that didn't work. Has that ever happened? Maybe on my end I might have noticed it It was like, but no, I don't think Yeah, pissed off now We don't even go there if it doesn't feel good You're just on to the next Yeah, it's not worth it

You know, it's like he's too seasoned Yeah You know, it's like It's different than working with a new artist Versus like, you know Is he the only one that you've been with From the beginning and yeah He's my, yeah, he's like

I think he's my only guy right now He's not really, I'm like retired in a sense. Like I focus more on design, creative direction. Yes. Not to say that I wouldn't do like, I love, I still love music video. I still love creative, like, projects, like, you know, like campaigns and all that kind of stuff. I love that stuff. Yeah.

But he'll keep him as a client still. Yeah. He's, yeah. Forever. I don't, where are we going to go? Like, it's like, I think it's, I mean, nothing's forever, but it's forever in my head. I love that. Yeah.

And why, June, have you not been invited to the-Bet Gallag. No, we had this conversation on the cut and everyone got very upset, not the cut. Why are they going to set? On complex. Why are they going to do it? My husband was like, you sound like you were complaining. He was like, it's embarrassing. All right.

Because he felt like, he don't really care. Here's the question. The truth, right? The question. Do you think you should be invited to the vent galarizer? Am I spending? What? My mother always said,

invited guests, get you did the best. I've been, I've been. I've been. I don't know if I was invited, though. But you've been? I've been years and years and years ago. Do I care? Yeah, do you care that you aren't? Oh. No, because it's a fundraiser. Right. Um, um, no, I don't actually. You're thinking about your husband's voice in the head. No, I know. I know. I, I think I'm, I think I'm so I think I'm... You're past it. I am so past it. I recognize what it is.

They raise a lot of money for the Institute. But you've got... How many people have you gotten ready for the Met Gala? Oh, not a lot. Really? That's not my thing. Yeah, not a lot. No, no.

Have you done it? Have you... I mean, I did... Oh, yeah, but, you know, if you bring that up, then we have to talk about the last time he was seen. Oh. Was that, that was the look. Uh-huh.

The Dark Vader. That was... I did puff for the... Yes, and the all black. Yeah, designed that look. Does that make you feel looking, back at that look. It was appropriate.

Yeah. It was appropriate. Wow. And you think about it, those black roses and the darkness. Wow. Yeah, and that was the picture that ran everywhere. There's so much heartbreak. It's heartbreaking in that, I know, I'm sure.

Disappointment and disappointment. I don't want to have to not talk about the great things that I worked on and did. It's really annoying. That is annoying. Because there's so many iconic moments and you ruin it for everyone that was involved. It's so funny. I was just talking about that the other day. When something happens like that, even listening with Puff, it's like the artists that, you know, I had 112 and a total, they were on tour and they came on the show.

And I couldn't talk to them about it. They spoke about it very lightly and carefully as they should. Because it's not their burden to carry. That's right. It's not your burden to carry. But part of your history. It is. It's like, so what?

You're supposed to act like you didn't do great things with that? It's like when the Cosby Show gets canceled, so we don't get to see- We love the Cosby Show because that got the one guy. I mean, if people really go back and look at my resume, my discography, I've done some, yeah, there's a lot of things that I don't talk about. Big music videos, groundbreaking and because the muse is, you know, has been exiled into life imprisonment and stuff. It's just- How do you feel about this?

It makes me, it's, culturally, it's, it doesn't do it. It's not good for the culture. It's not good for, how does it serve any of us to not and to, to celebrate what, you know, the downfall of it, to not all just be disappointed and disgusted? It's like, how do we not, how are we not sad behind that? Oh, no, I was sure. Yeah, like you're outraged by like the acts, right? But like we know we've seen this chaos before.

But to be so close to it is really heartbreaking. Because some of it you didn't see that side. You know, you didn't. And it's like the fact that you were held to different regards, then you start to feel like guilty. Yeah, because you never experienced that. Of course not. No.

There's probably been a hospitalization. I mean, no, I mean, it's just, you know, Angie, we've grown up around these guys. I mean, but we were held different. We were held, we were dealt with differently. And it's, I don't know what it is about us. Because I'm not, we're not doing that. We're not. That's not.

Yeah. And it's like, you raise your voice. I, like, my mom didn't yell at me. I didn't grow up in that kind of home. So, and I know that hurt people, hurt people. So my, the way I dealt with people that were acting out. it was in a very, because like you said, you recognize I'm empathic in that way, and I'm able to really shift energy and make people feel safe

that they don't have to perform when they're within our, in our sacred space. You don't have to perform for me. This is just, this is just us. And I see you, I see how, I see, I see, I see how vulnerable. We manage personalities. We manage all types of characters. Yeah, for sure. But they're constant, like I said, early in my life, I knew there were consequences

to actions. And to every action, there's a consequence, good or bad. Yeah. It affects you, though, too, your history and all. Yeah. So it's like that part's a drag. Yeah. But, you know, the Met Gala is going to be really exciting this year because Beyonce is.

Yeah. So how does that shift? I mean, that's affect me. I don't stop, I'm saying. I know, but like, just her being part of that, I don't know. It's exciting. She hasn't been in a while, so she always brings excitement. She's like, it's like, you know, when Rihanna started going to the mat, we were like, we will wait to see what, you know, Rihanna would come with at the end.

Like the carpet be closed and Rihanna will show up. Be too. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So, you know, she's, we're. But her cheering it, does that mean anything? I don't really know what that means. I know that recently they just. I don't know what that means.

You know what it might mean? She has to stay at the top of it. Maybe you'll get an invite this year. Oh, well, Anna still controls. Oh, yes. Okay. Let us not. Now, Anna, come on now, Anna.

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Oh, my God. It's so intimidating. No. You're in a meeting. Oh, I pick? Yeah, you pick whatever you like. If you could instantly master any skill, what would it be? It's in your hat. The thing is in your hat. The paper is in your hat. When your hat's too big. If you can instantly master any skill, what would it be? Yeah. That?

No, no, no. Yeah. No. Any skill. Sketching. I'm not a good sketch. I sketch very loose. It's a kindergarten.

But like real. So getting the idea out of your brain onto the paper is sometimes hard, I would imagine, if you're not a great schedule. I've, thank God for technology, because I can now sketch through, you know, to, digital sketching but yeah okay go for another one give me three let's do three instant reason um oh oh a prayer or affirmation you say often oh god um it's almost a serenity prayer you know i always ask for god to give me grace you know for the things that i cannot do i mean i'm a sober drunk so i don't even understand how to say it but yeah i always i literally constantly say you know what I don't get done today. I put it off to tomorrow and give myself grace constantly. It's okay.

I always affirm that it's okay. I'm enough and it's okay. Yeah. That's how you hold on to that joy. Yeah. I'm like, it's okay. I'm like, take another one. And then I have a couple here and then we're, oh, you got more. What have you always wanted to do but haven't? Oh, oh, this is loaded. There's so many things because I'm like, I feel like I want to go to India. Yes. I want to eat love and pray.

Oh my God. Your outfits in India are going to be fire. India's on my bucket list. Now I've traveled the world. India is up there. I know you're probably like, what? India. Yeah, India.

No, I would totally love to go to India also. Yeah. Oh, and I want to see the northern lights. Yeah. That's good too. Yeah. Okay, Junie, June. I am no longer available for

Come on, you got it. I am no longer available for brain picks. It's like, I want to pick your brain. Okay, but how does that serve me if he's just picking and not giving anything? I love that. Yeah, it's like, what are you giving me? Yeah, picking something. You just pick, pick, pick, pick.

pick. I'm giving. I'm giving. I'm always giving. We are giving. For sure. And it takes a lot to have a brain worth picking. It takes a lot of effort and work you have to put into yourself to have a brain worth picking. So it's like if I'm putting so much effort into doing this, what effort are you bringing by picking it? I know it sounds like, is that rude when you say like, how does it serve me? I mean, no, it's not. It should. I mean, it doesn't mean that I don't give. I'm just saying like you can't just keep picking my brain no i think it's important to give when you have something to give yeah i'm no i'm i'm no longer available for people who don't see what i see in myself and i only want to value you yeah that's right yeah heard you yeah i felt that deep in my soul

when i walk into a room i want people to feel like they want to dance so you want to dance so you want I want them to feel, yeah, I want them to feel joy. I want them to feel like it's going to be okay. Yeah. Like whatever is going on in their world. Like I can just escape with this moment with June. What do you like most about yourself, June? Oh.

I think my ability to see the best in people before I see the worst. I will always see the goodness first. I don't look for them. what could be wrong with you. I look for what is right about you from inception. That's, I think, one of my best attributes. And people always say, oh, you'll always see the good. And, yeah, people like that get taken advantage of.

But I don't think it's being taken advantage of. I think it's, you know, my mother always gave people grace. When they wronged her, when they did things that made her cry, she was always really able to forgive and give them grace and always found a reason why they did what they did and that is who I am. That's what I am to do. That's why I understand that completely. But I do understand, though, that that personality does get taken advantage of.

Oh, for sure. Yeah. So how do you protect yourself from that? You know, there is a grace of God. You know, there is some higher power, thank God. Most things, I don't feel like I have to carry a lot of what this world is put on our backs to carry. Sometimes I just give it to God. Give it to God.

Speaking of God, it's my favorite question in the bowl and we will end with that one. If God were to text you right now, what would it say? I've prepared you. So sorry. That's okay. I have picked you for everything that's coming your way and be still. June and I have real life. How do you make you so emotional?

It does. It's so good. No, that's so good. That question does it. I don't know what it is about that because it's like the realest thing ever. Yeah, because it's like... What? Sometimes you don't.

Sometimes you don't think you're being seen, but everyone's paying attention. And when I called you and I said, I need to come sit, don't keep saying. So thank you. Thank you for trust me. Thank you for coming. June Ambrose in real life every time. You can't leave crying. We ought to leave joy.

Give you some joy. What is this joy? Yes, it is. I'm so happy. Yeah. So this is joy. Yeah. Joy is when you feel safe, when you feel seen.

Seen. That is joy. And people are like, oh, you know, I was like, I want to be seen. And people are like, some people don't want to be seen. I want to be seen. It's like, if I'm not seen, well, what am I doing? Like at the end of our lives, am I not supposed to have existed? Like, I think that's what I think about the most of my mom being gone.

I constantly say her name because. Her legacy is the fact that she was here, that she created me, that she gave me this life. And if I don't continue to celebrate that, then it was as if she didn't, like she wasn't here. So you're being seen for her? Yeah, people move on. And we leave this earth. We move on. We leave.

We have to all leave. And what is your legacy? I mean, my kids, like, the way I changed. the way I made people think, the way I made people feel. That's my legacy. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's probably why you're so emotional. That's why I'm so emotional.

Because you carry the weight of honoring your mother by being seen. Yeah. It's like a little girl growing up an immigrant. I came here. I came to this country. I wasn't born in this country. I'm an immigrant. So when I see immigrants, the way they're being tortured now, when I see, I know the sacrifices that immigrants, you know, leaving their country to come to this country for a better life, and this is not a better life? And like, wait, hold on, where I came from,

as an always, every time an immigrant comes there, it's not because of they're running from something. They're running towards something. And when that is being misinterpreted, that part, I take real personal, and that part hurts, because I know what it's like to come to this country. as an immigrant and to have gotten my citizenship and to, you know, I pay my part, I do my part. Shifted culture.

I shifted culture. We've built empires, billionaires, and millionaires, and we share that. You know what I mean? The adjacentness of success is super important to me. So if I'm successful, anyone that's in the universe should be successful too. And you are your mother's legacy. I am my mother's legacy. Yeah.

I owe it to her. June Ambrose. Now I smile. You made me cry. This is June Ambrose in real life. Hey guys, thanks for watching. Make sure you subscribe, like, comments, and check out all of the other episodes we have on Angel Martinez, IRO podcast. I'm Clayton Neckard.

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