Joe and Jada - Angie Martinez IRL - Tyrese On God's Vision For You, His Daughter Shayla & Playing Teddy Pendergrass

Episode Date: April 30, 2026

Actor, Model, and Music Recording Artist, Tyrese Gibson sits down with Angie Martinez to talk about his journey from starring in a Coca-Cola commercial, to becoming platinum selling recording artist, ...to being a main fixture in the Fast and Furious franchise. Plus, Tyrese explains his idea for a Teddy Pendergrass movie, and how becoming a meme over his daughter Shayla was a blessing in disguise.All lines provided by ‪Hard Rock Bet#VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:55 I'm going to get to where I'm going to get like a perr, but when when you're going to a quarter battle to prospering in a world full of amazas
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Starting point is 00:02:14 what are you going to do when she's in a relationship well that's a different my Shayla I'm going to tell him she will always be my Shayla
Starting point is 00:02:24 but you're all married And I got a shotgun. In case this gets crazy. There's some boundaries in place. Hey guys, this episode is brought to you by Boost Mobile. You know you and Busta have a similar spirit. Has anybody ever told you that?
Starting point is 00:02:53 No? Yeah, it's very, it's like you're very big on the outside, but very emotional and loving. in the inside. Vulnerable. And you just love aggressively. Because your energy is that. Wow.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Love aggressively. That sounds so grown. Has nobody ever said that to you? No. If a woman said that to me over our first lunch, I'd be like, this is it. This is it. It just happened.
Starting point is 00:03:24 So you do feel that. You feel that to read true. That was so grown. That was so grown. It felt like a pickup line. It was like that. I wasn't shooting a shot. No, no, no, not, no.
Starting point is 00:03:33 You know you're my brother. It was, it just, it just happened. I was just like, oh, shit, Angie, the possibilities are endless. You know me. You feel seen? You feel seen. Right through my soul. I've been working so hard to cover this all up, but she just broke my shit down in two
Starting point is 00:03:52 seconds. And ladies and gentlemen, that is Tyrese in real life. Tyrese is our guest today. I love that you are here. Your first time on the pod. Yes. I was just explaining to you, the pod is a little different than some of our. We've had meaningful interviews in the past.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Yes. But this is just a little more, you know, I value the experiences of our real life because I think people really can learn from them. And so they go a little deeper. And you said, oh, no, I mean, this is where, this is the place I live every day. This is where I function from. This is where I would rather be, you know. You know, I got managers and folks pulling me to the side all the time. Like, you know, just bring the energy up, you know. Everything doesn't have to be so deep and in so many details.
Starting point is 00:04:44 But, you know, the Capricorn and me, I wear my heart on my sleeve. I lead with my vulnerabilities. I trust easy. You know, I deal with people taking their access for granted. often, all while still feeling very misunderstood, you know. Really? Oh, God. Like, this, I felt like I understand me.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Well, what is the thing you think that people don't understand? I mean, no true scenario is ever the same, you know? Like, it'll be like, you know, did that really happen? Or were you just doing interviews or? Is that real? Yeah, is that real? You know, because... Well, because you're emotional.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Very. Yeah. Right? But it's not... I don't think anybody would schedule a tear. You know? Oh, at 3.30, drop them. It's not a movie.
Starting point is 00:05:48 This is real life. So you wake up and want to be married for the rest of your life and get blindsided by a divorce. And then you're pulling out your human calculator trying to process like, well, what did I say, what did I do, and what am I on the receiving end of and how am I supposed to process what's happening all while the world believes that I'm the strongest, most alpha, outspoken, big huge,
Starting point is 00:06:18 Capricorn. Capricorn energy, you know, loud, vocal, take over the energy of every room I walk into. But I'm just this teddy bear, vulnerable processing. everything. You know it's so funny because I've known you for so long now. We've had so many great conversations on air and off air. I run into you. I haven't seen you in two years. I run into you in the street in L.A. We're standing in the street for 30 minutes having a conversation. You're so engaged with whatever you're doing in the moment. And to me, that you just, like you said,
Starting point is 00:06:49 you're just like you have energy. And so if it's love, it's energy. If it's sadness, it's a lot of energy. You just that energy and you put that energy on whatever it is, whatever is happening in the moment. I get that about you. It's a movie. But when we were telling you, we were talking about you coming today, I was telling Brittany because Brittany is, well, she's younger than us. I was like, you know how Tyrese came, like how we got introduced to Tyrese. And she got quiet for a second because she probably thinks of you as Tyrese from, you know, Fast and Furious and whatever,
Starting point is 00:07:21 music or whatever. But I said, you don't remember the Coca-Cola commercial? And she hadn't seen it. So we all bust out the Coca-Cola commercial. Wow. It's first time. Yeah, that's pretty great. No, I mean, there's a whole generation of people that know you from different eras.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Yes. And there might be some of the younger generation that don't remember being introduced to you. Yes. I remember being introduced to you. And so even in your highs and your lows and your emotional things and all that I still see how I was introduced to you, which was this like this entity who got on this bus and this commercial. with this crazy smile and voice and everybody was like, who is that? Right.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Who is that kid? It was such a like a joy and a, you know what I mean? You just like you came in that way. You came in that way big. Happiness. That was joy, right? It was, it was real? It was very real.
Starting point is 00:08:23 This was interesting. I feel like I want to insert the video right there for people to see. for anybody who is not of the generation just to take you back to that moment. Or you haven't seen it in a long time. I just want to remind you how we were introduced to Tyrese. Boom. Boom.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Can you make sure I get cleared for that? Of course. Done. Done. Done. Say no more. Okay, good. But I want y'all to know that
Starting point is 00:08:49 I try my best to never get too familiar with being blessed. Like, you're blessed. But do you see? do you see that there's actually food in the fridge and that you're driving what you want to drive and that this is the house that you really wanted that you could and that you got it is furnished the way you wanted to be fun the kids have the pool is warm do you see how blessed you are or have you allowed yourself to get too familiar with being blessed you're so focused on the next thing that you've lost sight of what you already have other people.
Starting point is 00:09:31 have had, other folks have had five minutes of fame. Like this, we've been hearing this for years. Oh, he got his five minutes of fame. He had a moment. Yeah, I had 30 seconds. Five minutes of fame would have been incredible. I had 30 seconds that has turned into 30 years. So if you don't think my life feels like Christmas every day,
Starting point is 00:09:56 like every day, like I'm sitting there with Angie Martinez, but like I know you. but I'll never get too familiar with your magic, ever. No, no, no, no. She's been at it for what I've been knowing of me. No, no, no, no. That's Angie Martinez. Let's be clear.
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Starting point is 00:11:18 So don't just sit on the bench, download the Hard Rock Bet app today and get the party started. So, yeah, it's allowing myself to be that little kid that got on the bus. And it has, I have been on this bus for 30 years and cannot believe. And I literally say this every day. God, why do you love me so much? That's crazy. What do I say all the time? He loves me so much.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Whenever something I go, God loves me so much. I don't ask why I just make the statement. I say this. This is like the past couple of years, this has been like my thing. I say it all the time. Literally, I could be like, God, I'm in such in the mood for a refresher.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Oh. Boom. Oh, my gosh. God loves me so much. Like, anytime something happens, that is my go-to phrase. God loves me so much. The reason that I put why in front of it,
Starting point is 00:12:17 it's not questioning him. It's me understanding that God's grace, is when he gives you what you don't deserve. Right? So someone who is entitled to it will never see God's hand in it. Yeah, this is mine. Yeah, I drive that.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Yeah, I got another show. Yeah, like, it's me. But when you understand that that did not have to happen and then it happened and then it happened on such a real level with real numbers attached and you got real guests that you're securing
Starting point is 00:12:54 and all of this stuff, why does God love me so much? God loves you so much because your heart is right. And I don't really know of anybody who could ever say a bad thing about Andrew Martinez. Now, they might not like you when it's time to negotiate a deal.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Yeah. Right? Because a woman who function... Or if I say no to something. Yeah, you say no to something, I can't pull up. They have some entitlement issues. And if you say no,
Starting point is 00:13:24 then they're like, oh, you know what I thought we was, boom. Or no one wants to negotiate with Angie, right? Because when a woman functioned from a place of knowing her self-worth and her self-value, that gets very uncomfortable when somebody trying to throw you $2 like you some fucking chicken, chicken nugget in the game. Yeah, those days are past me. I used to take chicken nugget money just because I was humble and I thought I was supposed to, you know, but now, you know, I'm in my.
Starting point is 00:13:54 know my value era. Okay. And sometimes, and again, going back to that why question, right? Sometimes the humility will make you disappear in the room. Don't be too humble where you disappear in the deal terms. You know, I'm just, because you're functioning from a, yo, I'm just so grateful for the opportunity. You know what I'm saying? This could have, you could have given anybody this opportunity.
Starting point is 00:14:24 So now you are here super humble and it's genuine. But then they milk the humility and the gratitude and the appreciation that you have for the opportunity. And they say, well, nigga, you're so grateful. Take this $2. But also, it's like, it's almost like almost a little bit of an imposter syndrome. I always felt like I'm just so lucky to be in the room. But then, but no, but if you think about it in a way like, well, God put me in this room. So y'all should see me the way he sees me.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Yes. So if I'm in this room, then I'm supposed to be in this room. And I see you. Yeah. I see you, even without me physically being here. I see you even when I'm not with you, when I'm not around you. It's always good. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:15:13 God is good to Angie Martinez. You are always engaging. You are always creating safe environments, always warm and personable. and, you know, I often say this, right? I got a lot of different sayings, but one of the sayings is who you are is who you are, literally. You can go get $20 million next week, and you'd be like, yo, I just got 20 mil.
Starting point is 00:15:42 But it's not going to change who I am. I'm not going to start treating people differently. Well, I could say from experience is not about, about money, but from like making more money than I never thought I would ever see ever in my life just a regular black kid from South Central L.A. I was like, it's not the money that changes people, right? There's a book called As a Man Thinketh. So is he. And as a man think of, speaks to the specifics of who you are is already there. And whatever you end up doing,
Starting point is 00:16:29 whatever your intentions are, you're a monster waiting on an opportunity to be a monster. You know, you're a really bad person, and now that you got money, and now that we can see the extensions of your evil, you're a bigger monster. Yeah, yeah. You're a bigger monster and you are now like an evil genius.
Starting point is 00:16:54 And then there's the purity of when you put the money or the opportunities in this good person's hands, everything about your intentions will reflect that. You can't put $10 million in a bad person's hands and not expect him to do bad things. I feel like those bad people get it faster and easier for some reason. They do. Right. And then they end up in jail. And we're all sitting back going like, damn, well, you made this all look so great.
Starting point is 00:17:26 And so I often say run your race. Word. Run your race. Stop losing people, stop losing money over everybody else's gifts. What opportunities happen for them first before you. What seems to be bigger and better. What's a bigger check? Run your race.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Word. Go to sleep at night and just know that God really does love you and he's doing everything for you that he has in mind for you. God will never give you something that belongs to somebody else. So good. Take me back to that kid, though. Yes. How old is he on the bus?
Starting point is 00:18:11 I'm 47 now, but I was 16 then. He was 16 on the bus. Yes. Did you understand that then? Did you understand that you were being blessed that that moment was a blessing where you connected to God in that way? No. No, I'd be lying. The only thing I wanted was I wanted two things.
Starting point is 00:18:32 There was this girl at the end of my block. That's what you wanted. That I was flirting with. And her dad named was Steve. And he was mean as hell. And I just was trying my best to get her phone number. Now, I was too young. and she was too young for me to be calling her house.
Starting point is 00:18:54 But I just wanted her daughter's, his daughter's phone number. And I also wanted to know what it would be like to have over $100 in my pocket at one time. The only two goals I had. Did you ever get her number? I did, but it was too late at that point because I had other numbers. Because you was popping. Because when that commercial hit, everybody is. Don't care was out here in these streets, man.
Starting point is 00:19:23 He was outside, man. Yeah, so, so yeah, I got a little busy. I was unavailable for, I was like, yo, man, when I was just sitting around doing nothing, you ain't want to give me your phone number. Yeah. Now, look at all these phone numbers I got. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:41 At 16. 16, it was cracking. With a little money in your pocket. Lower money, way more than low. Did you think you had made it? Like, I've arrived. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:53 But this is what crazy. And this might make some dudes uncomfortable, but I have to put this out here. We often have this conversation about men versus women, men, overly promiscuous, sex and everything and everybody all day, every day. And women are active too, so I can't say just for men. But women will attack women for being overly permiscuous. promiscuous. Men, we get love and props from going big, partying all day, every day. So I'll never forget I had a conversation with Rev, Rev Run. And he didn't come down on me. He wasn't being condescending. He wasn't like cracking the whip. He just said, they say, Ty, let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:20:43 I said what? How many more? No, I'm just asking how many more? What's it going to take? What's it going to take? What's the goal here? You've been at it for years. And first of all, I didn't have an answer. That was the start of a problem.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Was that right away at 16 or you were older? This is years. No, this is like, you know, when I got on, 16, 17, because the place that I was functioning from, I was broke, I was ugly, I was, you know, struggling. I was in the ghetto. Now, all of a sudden, it's, full-on record deal, traveling, first class,
Starting point is 00:21:35 limousines picking me up from high school. Like literally I would get out of school and a limo was there waiting on me. Sweet Lady was on my first album. Lately was on my first album. Like everything just went crazy. And so the place that I knew, without even being aware of it,
Starting point is 00:21:54 the place that I was functioning from was you need to go big because this shit is going to be overspoken. soon. Like the Cinderella slipper. You've been broke your whole life. Food stamps, Social Security check, Wick vouches, county checks, government cheese, living in the hood, every level of dysfunction imaginable. My house, mother, alcohol, father, crackhead. If you think for one second that this is going to last for longer than 30 seconds, you better go live your best life. to the fucking fullest
Starting point is 00:22:33 because you have been broke and messed up and struggling for way longer than this lightning in the bottle situation you're experiencing right now. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people.
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Starting point is 00:23:11 To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really?
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Starting point is 00:26:57 that men function from is when you see a 50 year old in the club, he think it's going to be over for him soon. So when Rev asks me that question and I didn't have an answer to it, that was the start of my journey.
Starting point is 00:27:14 I got married. First woman I've ever been with that I didn't cheat on. And I'm in a relationship now, five years. We just celebrated. Never cheated on her. I want to believe I have more access to women than most dudes right now to this day. But God removed that appetite from the realization how many more.
Starting point is 00:27:36 So sometimes it just takes you to have those very specific conversation. And no men and no women want anybody to ever come down on them. They don't want to feel like they're being like beat down. But when somebody could just pose a question and you leave and you just like, Damn. You know, it's the shifts like you're wiring, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Yeah. Because now you can't justify it. Mm-hmm. You can't justify it. Like, I could say to a woman, how many more shoes with the matching handbag? Like, how many more? And are you doing this
Starting point is 00:28:21 because you love the shoe? shoes in the handbags, are you out here still in competition with other women? Because you already, you like I always say, a tall person don't have to play tall. You're already tall. You already great. A tree is a tree. A tree is a tree. A tree don't be trying to be a tree.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Just a tree. I mean, you out here treying. You're a tree and motherfucker. Yeah. So it's like every single day. literally, and we all have our own individual process. These thoughts are expensive, and I want to reach them all. I'm not losing sleep over nobody else's gifts,
Starting point is 00:29:11 nobody else's talent. I function from a place of I'm so happy for you. And people ain't happy for you, but I'm so, I'm like the king of cheerleading for everybody that I love. I show up, I'm not a thing. fair weather. I'm not going to run when things get crazy and heavy. I'm there at 3, 4 a.m. in the morning, I'll take six months of my life if needed to put you in your marriage and your situation in a better place if I can. But I'm actually on this mission every single day
Starting point is 00:29:50 to meet and be introduced to a better version of myself. Like, that's all I want. I just want to bend the corner and be like, yo, I never met you. everything about my life from this point on has to include you because this version of me is way better than the person that I showed up as. And it's every day. And I take conversations and I have my moments and I'm in my bag in my zone. And then if we think, Angie, for a second, of how many people we've lost. I know. Right?
Starting point is 00:30:26 So now there's a saying. it's arrogant to believe the next seconds of life belongs to you. So if you think you got next week to get to it, who's to say? Okay. Yeah. So there is a clock in my head and there's a sense of urgency on my life. Not that I think anything is going to have to me.
Starting point is 00:30:48 God forbid, I'm here. I'm for the full run. Well, the truth is something is going to happen to all of us. Yeah, at some point. There is a clock on every human being. that's literally how this podcast was formed you know this podcast before i called it in real life the original name of this podcast was called we're all going to die oh and we changed it because for a lot of reasons it was a little heavy there's some shock value on that it was tough
Starting point is 00:31:11 to no but when we think listen if we wake up every day and remind ourselves that we are on the clock it changes how you operate through the world it changes what kind of conversations you want to have it changes how you show up how you present like what really matters to you and i want to to have those conversations. So the name was we're all going to die. It's like, okay, we're all going to die. Now what? Yeah, I'm glad you changed that title.
Starting point is 00:31:38 You don't want to be reminded of that every day? No, no, it's because there's life and death and the power of the tongue. This is about, this is not God's opinion. It is his word. Yeah, but life and power of the tongue, it's a fact. It's, we are all going to die. But if you speak to death every day and it's coming off of your tongue in any capacity, it's a bad thing.
Starting point is 00:31:59 It's an energy. that you're putting in the universe. We're all going to live. I don't think that. We're all going to live. I think if you say, I'm going to die tragic, or I'm going to die, this is something else. If you say negative things,
Starting point is 00:32:08 but the fact that we are all going to die is an actual fact. It is an actual fact, but we're all going to die is energy that will contribute to a sooner expiration of date. Fair enough. No. We're all going to live.
Starting point is 00:32:22 And you see how you're responding to it? There were a lot of people that responded that way. And that is the reason I changed the name. Yes. It's not so much what I feel because I know the spirit of it. The spirit of it is so I have today. What do I want to do with it? No.
Starting point is 00:32:39 You know, so the spirit of how I release it and feel it is in a positive way. But I realize it doesn't land that way for other people. Yeah, I didn't want that for you. Yeah, so I changed it. I changed it. There's nothing about Angie Martinez and death or trauma or something dark that's going to happen. I didn't think of it as dark. Well, death is dark.
Starting point is 00:33:01 It ain't light. Maybe. Maybe. Light happens when you supposedly go to heaven. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, but dark is death and it's sad. But the whole thing is, you know, get to it, you know? Get to it.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Get to it. Like, it's arrogant to believe the next seconds of life belong to you. Get to it. What are you getting to right now? Oh, what am I not? These thoughts are expensive. I'm trying to unload all of them. Like, I got, it's too much.
Starting point is 00:33:34 My brain, the visions, the dreams, the appetite, it's crazy. Like, crazy. You want to change the world. Oh, that's, you know, yeah. It's crazy. Like, I don't ever question anybody's success because they get to money, how they get to it. But I would like, it must be a miserable life to be worth 30 billion and you have no visions and ideas.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Or joy or love. Or joy or love. You just like, that's what's in your account. What do you value most in life? Creativity. I'm addicted to creativity. I'm addicted to creativity. Oh, I get that.
Starting point is 00:34:18 I understand that. Yeah. Like I really feel like whatever this building is, if somebody did not get the idea, around this building out, we'll be sitting on the floor right now. If somebody decided that the clothes you're wearing, the clothes that I'm wearing, the glasses she's wearing, anything that they came up with, we are the consumer, unless y'all made these clothes yourself, we love this outfit, let me buy this outfit,
Starting point is 00:34:50 but if they had kept the vision and idea in their head, we'd be sitting there with no clothes. So everything is about implementing the, vision and getting it out and stop letting the shit bounce around in your head like you got next week to get to it. Because if God put that on you, he could have sent the idea to somebody else. So the pressure that I put myself under to get ideas out is crazy. I just wish I had more money.
Starting point is 00:35:21 I just need, listen, to anybody out here watch. You're about to campaign for some cash. The Angie Martinez show. Yeah. If you're watching this show and you just so happen to be a multi, multi-billionaire. Yes. And you may have gotten to your money from tech, real estate, whatever the case may be. And you're just like, oh, man, all I'm doing is running around buying the latest Maybach, the latest Bugatti, Richard Neill, Patee-Philippe.
Starting point is 00:35:50 And I'm just, I'm just spending money on random things. Call you, boy. Your life will never be the same. What is the first matter of business if that check is written to you? Teddy Pendergrass movie. I would love to see that movie. I've always wanted to see that movie. The second that you started talking about that,
Starting point is 00:36:10 you know, certain things just, they fucking make sense. And they're supposed to be in the universe. How about this? It's like Kelly Rowland playing Donna Summer. That's supposed to happen. I don't know if it's on Broadway. I don't know if it's the show. I don't know if it's a...
Starting point is 00:36:26 That's supposed to happen, yes. Or... Teresa's supposed to play Teddy Pendergrass. Or, how about this? What? Me and Taraji doing our own version of Love Jones. Yes. The alpha male with a strong woman, funny, like a romantic comedy, but romance.
Starting point is 00:36:49 And like... And you can't get these things funded? No. No. But after this show, it's going to happen. It's going to happen. Yeah, they're going to call Mona Scott Young is her name. Monos Scott Young.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Also, if you happen to be here, I also have a few ideas. Let's talk it down since we're talking about, since we ain't got till next week to get to it. I have a few ideas. Fall in. Come and meet us at the yellow table. And you know what? You know what's so interesting about this theme? You know what's so interesting about this theme is I'm turning a corner and
Starting point is 00:37:28 my kind of understanding about money. We just had Emma agreed on, and she was giving me shit because I was saying, for a long time of my career, I didn't put money at the center because I was always taught, you know, not all money is good money
Starting point is 00:37:39 or you do what you love and the money will come. You know, I just had a lot of false ideas about money and I didn't value it in a way that I should have because I'm not moved by it. Yeah. Personally, right? I don't need it.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I don't need the bag. I don't need the shoes. I'm not even like a material girl. I like nice shit, but I'm not pressed about material things. things. But the power in it, the power to tell people's stories, the power of our gifts as creatives to be able to get them out into the world, that requires money.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Yes, it does. And I now understand that. And I now understand the importance of those gifts that we have. And so, yeah, so I'm going to ask for more money for everything that I do now for those reasons. Well, here's my saying. But it's just so funny to hear you like, I don't know, you just write a little. I'm right there.
Starting point is 00:38:28 I'm right there with you. My saying, which sounds very similar to yours, maybe it's a Capricorn thing, but I don't respect money, right? I don't respect money. I know that it takes a lot of time and energy and grind and hustling work. I know that most of what we do every day, we can't get done without money. And I also understand the value and some of the most. beautiful and precious moments in life that don't cost the thing, right?
Starting point is 00:39:03 Sitting on a bench with a loaf of bread with your girlfriend, they're feeding swans or ducks or pigeons and smiling and laughing sitting at the lake, it's the high of all highs and how much that that beautiful moment cost you, not much. But when I said on respect money, it's from the capacity of, these ideas and i mean this literally angie these ideas will stay in my brain if i don't have money that can help me to get them out this would be a very different place if i was sitting on that type of capital and i don't have no ill-will and bad intentions with any of this that i'm doing yeah and you're going to give it a thousand percent i don't know there is no other version
Starting point is 00:39:58 of me that knows how to do it. This might be a selfish thing right now. Yeah. But take me through what you as Teddy Pendergrass sounds like, feels, like, looks like. And I only say this because I am obsessed with Teddy Pendergrass. I don't feel like being lonely tonight. You see, you see, I want some companies. And you look like you're looking like you.
Starting point is 00:40:31 just my type you're the kind you're the kind of spirits are running free let's take a sip of some cold cold wine and dance to the music nice and slow and you won't feel any kind of pressure because we'll just let we'll just let the evening flow Come on and go with me. Would you like that babe? Come on over to my place. Lee Daniels has to direct. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:41:26 You know when I was saying there's certain things that are just supposed to be in the world? My God, Tyrese. I'm not going to stop. until it's done. Let's take it all the way, though. That's what it sounds like. But what is this, what is,
Starting point is 00:41:47 because I'm a fan of his and his story, what is the spirit of it? Like, what is he, what is he telling the world in this project? He gave me an assignment. I was one of the Paul Bearers, his funeral, carrying his casket. I know and love his wife, Joan Pendergast.
Starting point is 00:42:10 we spent about at least seven years prior to him passing. And he said, you know, nobody is sitting in his chair. I'm not mimicking, but I just want to show you all. This was the dynamic of our conversation. He's got a very raspy voice, kind of like shine when he talks. Like, you know, nobody can play me in this movie, but you, you know what? Because everybody's running around here trying to sound like me, sing like you're the only one who really can act,
Starting point is 00:43:05 really could sing. And you haven't been trying to mimic me in my sound. That's why you're the one. You're my son. Although I have a son, I consider you a son. That's why you're going to play me in a movie. You hear that, Joan? to his wife.
Starting point is 00:43:32 I hear you, honey. Can you give me some water? Are we all going to the movies? Yeah, but it was like, wow, just seeing his neck and just kind of how he could, it's only so much movement and just everything that I was able to study. I can't wait. You know what else is too is interesting
Starting point is 00:44:01 is that he had his own vices and demons and issues with women and how you were talking about the 16-year-old version of yourself and Rev telling you how many. How many more? He, you know, he lived his best life to the fuck. But see, that's what I'm saying. It's that appetite.
Starting point is 00:44:20 I do not, I can't speak for everybody, but I don't believe most people body count would be what it is. if they actually knew that the money or what makes them suddenly attractive or this and that, it ain't going nowhere. Like, what excuse do I have now after 30 years? They still scream from me. I'm still selling out arenas.
Starting point is 00:44:47 I'm still doing the biggest movies in the world. I still live in a 25,000 square foot mansion with Rose Royces. My kids are still having. It's still here. So functioning from a place that it's all going to go away soon had to get off of me. So now, okay, let me be more specific here because I really want people to get this.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Sometime when you unexpectedly get blessed, your life feels like a rental car. And if it's a rental car and you're in the limo for the prom or you in a rental car and it's nice. running that shit ragged. You're treating it like shit because you know it's going to go away. Or just in general, this high that I'm feeling from this really nice car
Starting point is 00:45:43 doesn't belong to me. And at some point, I got to give it back. So you're going to go maximum extreme level of whatever it is you're doing in that moment because you know at some point you're going to give the, Cinderella Slipperback. At some point, you're going to be a frog again. At some point, the swan is going to become a pigeon again and just go back to being regular. So while I have it, I'm going to go big.
Starting point is 00:46:17 But what excuse can you come up with now for still clubbing, still partying, still spending on the level that you're spending on, still seeking validation. Like, when is the last time you, hold it's a big one, here's a big one. When is the last time you were alone? And why did that make you so uncomfortable? Because you need people around you all day, every day, stroking your ego, complimenting you,
Starting point is 00:46:52 validating you. Oh, so it, so basically you got people around you to feel like if you don't give at least 10 compliments a day, you might be out of a job. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tapped Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're
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Starting point is 00:51:04 Podcast Network In the app of I Heart Radio, Apple Podcasts, or where you see your podcasts. I spend so much time alone. And at this point, it's something I prefer. Because people are distractions. These thoughts are expensive and I want to reach them all. Which is why you should call me at 1-800.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Teddy. Tyree says Teddy. 1-800-Tier-Ease as Teddy. Yeah, the romantic comedy opening up in my own. movie studio, which is on the scale of a universal studios, hotels, restaurants, retail, tourism, developing whole islands in the Caribbean island. I love that. You know, like, I'm going big.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Like, this ain't got nothing to do with me announcing that I'm releasing a hoodie. Who gives a fuck about a hoodie? We didn't seem too many of them. Okay? You have a hoodie on now, by the way, though. What happened? You have a hoodie on right now. I know, because it's just what I prefer to.
Starting point is 00:52:05 wear under this jacket, but it ain't my hoodie. But yeah, you're trying to do big things. It's super big and I'm, it's, I get frustrated with God sometimes because I'm like, God, why do you keep, because Angie, these ideas are so big and they're so detailed and they're so specific. And I'm like, God, since you're such a specific God, when are you going to specifically let me do these things that are bouncing around in my head. That you've fed me.
Starting point is 00:52:38 It's so clear. You know why? Because it's God's timing. It's not your timing. You just got to keep submitting. But you're doing the right thing. I just think God has a way of, I think God has a way. And this is my experience. I think God has a way of just wanting to make sure that you know that he did it. because if it was about your handsome, your talent, your calls, your hustle, your follow-up,
Starting point is 00:53:07 lunches and dinners and courting and nurturing the relationships and making it, you still like, well, damn, when there's something going to happen? It all feels, right? It all went right. The stars are lined and everything feels good. I like all these people. The money is there. When is it?
Starting point is 00:53:29 Faith in the unseen. Mm-hmm. I have to go back to something real quick. You're so good, Therese. We can have a four, this is going to be a four-hour episode. Because something you said, I thought was interesting. And I thought you were going one way and you went somewhere else. But when you were talking about a rental car,
Starting point is 00:53:48 because you had also talked about women and vices and all that stuff. I think that translates beyond money, beyond, like, your situation and lifestyle. When you think about men, you were referring to like men being in terms. different women trying to come. There's something that happens with men where if they're with a woman that they don't feel like they deserve, she's going to leave me at some point anyway. I feel like they go out and almost ruin their home. I've seen this with people that I know that I'm married.
Starting point is 00:54:26 And I think maybe women do it too. It's almost like an imposter syndrome, like how you were saying you feel like your life is rental, is rented. So you start ruining it. Self-sabotage. It's self-sabotage. I think when you don't value yourself in that way, or you don't think you're worthy of whatever the blessing says,
Starting point is 00:54:45 whatever the gifts are, that you just kind of fuck it up. Yeah. And I don't even think people realize they're doing it. Yeah, they don't. But it's also a habit that they've learned. They've seen their mom and dad fuck up everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Right? So it's a go-to. Yeah, for sure. It's a pattern. It's a habit. It's a learned behavior. We all have baggage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:07 But who's going to love you enough to stand you to help you unpack it? Word. Right? If you pulled up with 10 bags, physical bags, and I pulled up with 10 bags, we both got bags. But when you start unzipping them and you show me what's in each bag, your story has nothing to do with mine. But who's going to love you enough to say to go to those bags with you? Because you get over the external. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:36 You could have some of the best sexual chemistry ever, and that'll be a reason to hold on for a little while. You can love the conversation. You can get deep, you know, oh, we can talk about deep stuff. It could be a lot of different reasons that you think that this is the one. But at the end of the day, you still are in a relationship with somebody that have a lot of things that are attached to them. So can we talk about it?
Starting point is 00:56:04 Can we be transparent about it? And for those things that I can help you through, I'm going to love you through it all. And then there's some things that's way beyond my pay grade. In this case, I'm like, babe, I love you, but I got alligator arms. And I ain't going to be able to reach into these topics and reach into these issues
Starting point is 00:56:27 or reach into these areas of your life to help you to figure out, what's going on there. So now I've got to put you in front of a therapist, a real professional that could really unpack that. Because rather you're with me or not, it's still there. You can run from here to Australia.
Starting point is 00:56:45 You're taking your problems with you. You got to unpack it. And so, yeah, it's some of us, some of us could really function relationship-wise on the surface. Yeah. And do just fine. Really? I think eventually, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Some people, some people can literally function on the service. I don't feel like you can do anything on the surface. I feel like everything. I can't. I feel like everything you do from your, from relationships to your career, so these big ideas, the frustration of not being able to bring them to fruition. It's like you feel everything so intensely. It's so real.
Starting point is 00:57:22 But how do you manage that? Because that could also make you crazy. Well, I am crazy. You have to be crazy to even believe. that it's going to happen, right? So imagine this. We shouldn't say crazy. I feel like.
Starting point is 00:57:42 No, no, no. Crazy is a good thing, right? Crazy is only bad in the wrong hands. Money is a good thing. It's only bad when money ends up in the wrong hands. Money is the root of all evil. I disagree. Money ain't never been evil in my hands.
Starting point is 00:58:00 I've never used my money to harm. or hurt anybody. You put money in my hands. Everybody's life is better. Everything is better. The experience is better. I tell niggas all the time, I love your yacht,
Starting point is 00:58:15 but your yacht would be better if I was invited on it. Like this is, this must be so fucking bored. Y'all must be so bored on this fucking yacht. If you want to have fun on this big ass $180 million, whatever this is,
Starting point is 00:58:32 I'm your guy. I'm your guy. Yeah. That's it. It's almost like how we feel about Kenny Burns or just people that just naturally got good energy. You know what I'm saying? Like it's, it's like. Kenny Burns.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Yeah, love KV, right? Like, it's like there's certain people that just got that energy about them that they make every room they walk into better. So prior to Kenny Burns showing up to your boat, y'all was on this motherfucker just sweepies. Everybody's sleep. Just like, y'all just, y'all mind's just handing out Tylen all PM. This is the most boring as fucking. We already out here on the ocean, and the ocean is supposed to put us asleep,
Starting point is 00:59:12 but can we have some fun? So, yeah, I just think... You do value joy, right? I'm the life of the party. We're going to have fun. But nobody gets hurt at the end of my parties, you know? There's no ill will and no bad intentions, you know? So I just think, who else but me?
Starting point is 00:59:34 to become the multi-multi-billionaire that's going to get these developments and these projects and these things off the ground. I think you should go on a promoter, like a fundraising promoter. I like it. Do you see where I'm going with this? Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Because I think what you just, the gift that you just gave us of this little glimpse into Teddy's story, if you just keep lighting that spark, like wherever you go, how could anybody stop that? I'm not saying to give away everything for free. Maybe it's little pieces of things or just
Starting point is 01:00:12 just keep sharing the gift that you keep referencing in whatever way it shows up for you on that day. But intentionally, it's bound to, you don't think? Yes. Yes, yes. But being intentional about that. Yes, very. And never letting up.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Yeah. And never questioning God. Just getting mad, get irritated. We're human. God, what are we doing? What are we doing here? What did Tiana say? Tiana was on the show.
Starting point is 01:00:44 She's like, sometimes I'd be like, God, like, for real, I have to have a real one with God. Like, why do you, you know, because she, I mean, she just had this glory moment, this glory year, but there was times where she, like you, big creative ideas. Creative all the time. She wants to this. She was that. And she's like, why? didn't any of these things working on? She record deals or whatever.
Starting point is 01:01:07 So she's had those, she's like, I have to have a real one with God, and then I have to, like, pull myself down. Well, you know, what it comes down to, for me, and if Tiana sees this message, that's my sister. I love her. I was just with her at the Black Women in Hollywood event in L.A.
Starting point is 01:01:24 We had such a great, beautiful exchange and conversation. Listen, people that win Oscars, It's like the kiss of death. They disappear after they win. When you're nominated, you book way more movies than you do when you win. Wow. I don't know what the fuck. It's YouTube videos all over the internet of what happens when you win an Oscar.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Versus nominated. Versus nominated. And so if I could say to Tiana, the nomination, you're on fire. Something about what people start overthinking and overvaluing the talent when they win the Oscar. You know, there's not a project that's good enough for an Oscar award winner. It's just all this stuff that happens. Nominate it is a different level. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:20 And what she was able to do was all about her. People have never heard of her. until they heard of her. That's crazy, by the way. And all of... She's 15 years old. Yeah, she's been at it. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:02:36 You got to, we got to think, right? We all live in our own matrix. Who doesn't know Tiana Taylor? Everybody has a whole lot of people never heard of her day in their life. Ever. Nothing about anything she's ever did, said songs she's sung has ever fell on their radar until now.
Starting point is 01:02:57 And when they met her, she's now a seasoned veteran, legend, beautiful, showing up with outfits, killing every red car. And so you're like, who the fuck? God, who the fuck is this? You know what I mean? And so now... Meanwhile, we've seen it, but not everybody has, right?
Starting point is 01:03:19 All of it. They're showing up as a, she's showing up as a new person to them. Yeah. There's a wow factor that's attached to a brand new thing. that we never seen or heard of ever until now. And that is the moment. That's the magic. That is the magic of what God is about to do.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Everything else was what you were supposed to see, feel, experience, and go through prior to your moment. You thought those were moments. No, those were moments leading up to the moment. Now, if you want to make God laugh, tell them your plans. Oh, yeah. Wait, wait. I cannot wait to see all that this, that Tiana's about to do. Can't wait.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Can't wait. I'm sure you got a few projects you could probably attach her to. I mean, you know, ready. With the proper funding. Proper funding. Yeah. I want to also share so proudly that of all of the radio shows I've been approached about, podcast, reality TV shows, because my life is,
Starting point is 01:04:27 It's interesting. It's some funny shit. It's a lot of... All cameras is rolling, a lot going on. So I came up with this random idea, Angie. Mm-hmm. Random. I have Tyresepatrione.com.
Starting point is 01:04:44 And instead of me doing a podcast or doing anything that you're supposed to do, I guess, because these are these usual things, I decided I'm sitting on 30, years of videos has been on my hard drives with projects, ideas that have never gotten off the ground, ran around, pitching visions and ideas fully shot. Music videos has never been released because the edit just didn't turn out right and we went to the window. Behind the scenes of Sweet Lady lately, my song, Shane with Jennifer Hudson and Denzel Washington produced.
Starting point is 01:05:25 I got so much count terabytes and terabytes full of things that nobody has ever seen. And I think I'm uncomfortable because I've already uploaded too much shit. And this is all going to live on the Patreon. It's all on my Patreon. What is it going to cost us? Give me the cost. For you for free. No, no, I want to be a patron.
Starting point is 01:05:54 I want to be a patron. I want to be a patron. I want to be a page What is the fee? There's four different categories I'm going to watch how this goes for you, Tyrese, because I too have 30 years of I have 30 years of content
Starting point is 01:06:08 some of that's never been heard of before and I've often thought about this route that you're taking so I'm going to watch how it plays out for you and maybe I'll follow your lead. You should. You should. Okay, good.
Starting point is 01:06:22 And Tyrese, Patriots, And what we just uploaded, what's about an hour and 20 minutes long, is all of the fuckery and all the craziness that went down for this versus thing, lead with me and Tank. And I had the cameras rolling. I was like, I was like, okay, I'm not the competitive dude. He is. We both Capricorn, but he's the other version of Capricorn. I'm like, bro, Kenny, you know, can we all just get along? Kumbay, white flags.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Who you got coming out? Oh, yeah, this is who I got coming. Oh, he wanted to come out and kill me. He had 17 people come out on stage during the verses. I had one. He tried to steal my background singer. You know, he had the sound man to mess up my sound on purpose. It was shady.
Starting point is 01:07:15 So on Saturday at the UBS Arena, and because of you, I might throw a Teddy Pendergrass song in on that stage. Ooh! Wee! There's so many good ones. What's that? Which one's that? Come on, girl, with me.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Oh, yeah. Come on over to my place. Yo. I can listen to this all day. I would literally just pay to see you in concert performing Ted and Pender Pendergast songs. Wow. See? I would pay for that.
Starting point is 01:07:53 The woman that's always been. bearing gifts. That's what she just did. Did you all hear that? I'm just saying. Did you all hear that? The Teddy Pendergrass residency? I'm just saying there's many ways to get to the goal and the goal.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Yes. Keep planting seeds. Keep chipping away at it. And it's going to materialize. I believe it. I believe it for you. Tirese patreon.com. Would love for y'all to join us.
Starting point is 01:08:22 And in success, and Angie's going to join us. And she's going to do a data dump on her hard jobs. Yes. I'm going to wait. I'm going to watch out. I'm going to watch out of you. This is either going to be the best shit ever or it's going to be a fucking like, oh, oh, this shit, that shit. That didn't like land well.
Starting point is 01:08:41 I love that we had this conversation today. I see your passion and your vision. And I think I hope it inspires people, not for their own lives and for their, because we all have. same way you have all of that we all have i have stuff bottled up that i you know all these things always stop us but i always think there's a if you really lock insured is always a way so i hope people are inspired by that today and and we'll support you on your journey you got to be unapologetic about getting these visions and dreams out unapologetic loyalty has an expiration date when god gives you visions and ideas and you don't move on them in any capacity he's going to give it
Starting point is 01:09:19 somebody else. How many more times you want to sit at the house and go, yo, I can't, I just, I remember I was just telling you about this idea? Like, what was that? Two years ago? Yeah, you ain't do nothing with it. Yeah. So God said, this idea has to reach the world. You playing games coming up with all of these, you know, my brand and my image and the timing and all the goofy shit. Okay. Or self-doubt or whatever out in security sphere of the unknown. I've never done it before. You know, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:09:52 They said, man, here's a problem. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so you all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line.
Starting point is 01:10:33 We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people. people in American history.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, former bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice, Ms. L.S. Correct? I doctored the test ones.
Starting point is 01:11:16 It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Sunlight's the greatest disinfected. They would uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Gregalespian and Michael Maranini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young.
Starting point is 01:11:36 This is Love Trap. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at America. Carcopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until justice is served in Arizona. Listen to Love Trapped Podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. There's two golden rules that any man should live by.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck.
Starting point is 01:12:35 I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care, so they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
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Starting point is 01:14:06 if it ended tomorrow, since we're talking about death, if it ended tomorrow, what have we actually done to leave something for our children? What have we done? Will they be okay for six months?
Starting point is 01:14:20 Will they be okay for, a year. What have we done? And most of us selfishly are just thinking about what we're doing today. Oh, the kids is good. I'm good. But if anything were to happen, did you set the family up for success? Did you set them up for sustainability? Will they be able to stay afloat? And in most cases, no. So if people don't think, if you think I'm about to get on stage and just be on stage getting screamed for and that's my high, no. No, it's not. Oh, oh, oh, Deadline, Hollywood Reporter, Tyrese just got casted in another movie. You mean movie number 40?
Starting point is 01:15:09 That's a high for me. No, the new highs that I own the studio. And that we have a film slate and a budget. And we have TV series and projects and movies, writers, directors, editors, cinematographers. We have created our own ism. And what we have never existed before now. It's coming. Praise God.
Starting point is 01:15:35 I have a couple real quick speed round in real life questions. And then I have a voice now? Okay. In real life, what are you most proud of about yourself? I am proud that God has used me to represent what's possible. In real life, what are you no longer apologizing for? I'm not apologized for being late. Shit, I'm tired.
Starting point is 01:16:13 It's traffic. Some calls a delay. What me? In real life, I'm at my best when? At real life, I'm at my best when I'm alone. Really? Mm-hmm. Everything that I'm thinking of and creating in my mind when I'm alone,
Starting point is 01:16:37 these thoughts are expensive, and when I'm able to reach them all, everyone is going to be on the receiving end of this stuff that I was able to think about from spending time alone. Mm-hmm. What is something that you have forgiven yourself for? Have? Yeah. I have forgiven myself for the things that I didn't know or understand. I used to beat myself up when I would say things, do things, make a mistake, piss people off, drop the ball.
Starting point is 01:17:14 And I've just learned to forgive myself, give myself grace. Because if I was raised by, by Gladys Knight, if Anita Baker was my mother, a whole lot of decisions about what I was doing and the business would have been different. If an NBA player raises a young NBA, soon-to-be player, he's got the whole blueprint of what to do and what not to do because he was raised by a champion.
Starting point is 01:17:42 You're figuring it out. I'm an alien. I'm one of one. I'm by myself. I've been winging it out here my whole life. and when I would make mistakes because the whole world is watching me grow up from the little kid right before their eyes,
Starting point is 01:17:56 I would always beat myself up. Like, oh, why did I say that? Oh, why did I do that? I'll tell you why you said it and did it because your mama wasn't glad as night. You didn't have a Mona Scott Young in your life that can sit you down and say, this is what's around the corner before they get there.
Starting point is 01:18:13 So I had to give myself grace and stop beating myself up. The things that I've said and done, that was embarrassing or that went viral and this and that. It's like I'm, you're looking at a duck. I'm sorry, a swan and all of the stuff that I've either said and done and mistakes that I've made and embarrassing myself, it's like water rolling off a duck back.
Starting point is 01:18:41 It doesn't penetrate me no more. It just rose off. And that's, that's a place that you had to get to. Stop going to sleep with your mistakes. Hey guys, you ever sign up for a phone plan thinking, wow, what a great price? And then a few months later, it's like, surprise, your bill is higher. We hate that. With Boost Mobile, you pay $25 a month forever.
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Starting point is 01:19:31 areas. After 30 gigabytes, customers may experience lower speeds. Customers will pay $25 a month as long as they remain active on the boost unlimited plan. Okay, this is a segment we have. It is our voice note section. This is a listener or a fan of the pod who we let know that you were going to be here today. What do we have? Hi, Tyrese. Oh my gosh. This is Stephanie. Can you say in my wedding? Like, I'm kidding, but I'm...
Starting point is 01:19:57 She shot her shot. Anyway, I love your videos of you and your daughter, Shayla. And between you on the road and Shayla being a teenager, what are some ways that you really lock in with her and really take the time to really have that daddy
Starting point is 01:20:13 daughter time? Aw. That's a good question. I'm a part of the, you know what they say about girls with daughters, black fathers with ball head, but it's. I'm a part of the... Brittany is the poster child for a spoiled kind of daddy's girl. She loved her dad down. Spoiled daddy's girl with a ball hair, your daddy's ball.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Is that a real thing? I might as well answer my question with my hat off. Are you one of them? Are you one of those? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Let me answer this question with my hat off. Well, at this point, as a father,
Starting point is 01:20:54 I'm more concerned about what my daughter don't know. Men, boys, business, life, people will take advantage of what you don't know. So she's 18 now. She's turning 19, July 11th. She's decided to go to college in the, Atlanta. I've been living there now for nine years, even though I was born and raised in L.A. So now I have the fullness of my firstborn with me and the most significant black city you could ever live in, politically, business-wise, entrepreneurs, just all of it. And so I am so proud
Starting point is 01:21:42 of the level of self-discovery that my daughter, is about to experience in Atlanta. But you're just super close. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm her go-to. Ready to shoot, stab and kill. I just purchased my first ever shotgun.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Like an actual shotgun. Like, for real shotgun. So whoever you are, whatever the lip gloss is cracking and you see my daughter, oh, man, I will use the shotgun. Such a dad answer.
Starting point is 01:22:24 Yeah, man, that's My Shela. She went viral from that. My Shaila. Yeah, she's got a clothing line coming out called My Shela. Does she really? She does. That's sweet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:36 How is that? I have that and then I have one loaded question. We're going to do a ball and wrap. How does that, I don't know, how do you manage that when something real is happening to you, emotional, heartbreaking, or in the most vulnerable state, and it becomes something that people, it's a meme. Oh, it's the swan and the water rolling off the bag thing.
Starting point is 01:23:08 The water goes off, yeah. I was on psych meds when I uploaded that video. It was on the internet for six months before the psych meds were completely out of my system. So, yeah, people have fun. They never seen me like that. I'd never seen me like that. When I finally got in my regular headspace,
Starting point is 01:23:28 I looked at the video and I was like, oh, shit, wow. And then fast forward, because God loves me. Why does God love me so much? He takes the most vulnerable moment of my life about my daughter. and he flips hashtag my Shayla into something endearing. So people don't say, what's good, my name? They go, my Shayla.
Starting point is 01:23:56 And it's the way girls are hugging each other. It's the way people are greeting each other. Nobody in the world could have told me that's something that was so vulnerable, fast forward with flipping to something. So now when my daughter goes places and I be like, yeah, this is my daughter. to Shayla. Wait, wait. Are you the Shayla?
Starting point is 01:24:19 My Shela, me and my friend do it. We like, my Shaila, you're the real Shela. It's the craziest thing ever. It is literally like God has a sense of humor. To flip that one. Has anybody ever sent you that meme? Oh, yeah. I see it all online.
Starting point is 01:24:37 Yeah, all the time. I've been living with the what more do you want for me and my Shela. I've been living. Even with that now, that was what video, 10, 12 years old now. So, yeah, for it to flip into something all over TikTok and be this positive, it just goes to show you, like, God loves me so much. He does love you so much. It's like, this is now my daughter's running around as a standalone Shela.
Starting point is 01:25:02 And it's like the most beautiful thing ever. Yeah, what are you going to do when she's in a relationship or later in life she gets married? and her husband or her boyfriend calls her My Shayla Well that's a different my Shayla I'm going to tell him she will always be my Shayla But y'all married And I got a shotgun
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Starting point is 01:26:32 You pick a question, and we'll leave on that note, have this beautiful conversation. I'm really hoping you'll get the question I want YouTube, because if you don't, I'm going to give you the question. We may edit it, but you see it. I think God may give it to you. Let's see. I'm going to look for the one that I want to ask you for the clothes out of the interview, unless that's it.
Starting point is 01:26:51 What is it? When I walk in the room, I want people to feel they've met a really nice person. I want them to feel like I created who I thought he would be in my mind. And I'm just so shocked that he was kind of like, nothing that I imagined that he would be. And then I want someone who did not plan on spending $10 billion that week to say Tyrese has got a lot of visions and ideas. I'm going to give him my money. I'm going to give him my money because we was about to spend a lot of money on a whole lot of bullshit.
Starting point is 01:27:42 That didn't matter. Did not matter at all. Great answer. Thank you. I killed the bowl. You killed the ball. I don't feel the ball. There's one question out of the bowl that you must have before you go.
Starting point is 01:27:55 I would love it. Okay, this is my one for you. Okay, here we go. If God were to text me right now, what would he say? I would hope that he would say, thank you for reminding people about me everywhere you go. Every Bible verse that I post when I say to people don't ever give me credit for what I've survived and what I've been through. I give all the credit to the Lord Jesus Christ
Starting point is 01:28:53 who loves me so much because when you can't explain it, when you tried everything to do it or get through it and pull through it and you know that only God did that, he just don't ever want you to take credit for what he is there orchestrating the entire time. God is the alpha and the Omega. He is the beginning, the middle of the end. He is all of it. And I've almost prided myself on making sure that I don't do anything without bringing Jesus into the conversation. And there are people that found themselves saying, I love Tyrese, I look up to him. I respect him so much.
Starting point is 01:29:45 Man, I don't know if I would ever got through that. I got through it. And God is the reason that I got through it. Because while I was getting through it, I couldn't even believe I was getting through it myself. I thought it was over. I thought it was a rap. I thought that was a career killer. I thought it was a good run.
Starting point is 01:30:11 And God said, no, that was a setback for a setup. God is the slingshot. Stick in the hand, the rubber band at the top, and you're the pebble, Angie. And before, now, if he was. were to, if he didn't love you, he would do this. Let the rubber band go and then you would fall right on the table. When God really loves you, he's going to deplete you, stretch you, create levels of discomfort. He's going to pull you all the way back and you're the rock.
Starting point is 01:30:58 And then you're like, the rubber band is stretching all the way back. He's pulling you all the way back because the moment he let that rubber band go, he's going to thrust you into a whole other level. So far, you're not even going to, people ain't going to be able to see the rock. Where did it go? That's the type of love you want. So God, whatever your process is, whatever public shaming and bears, whatever mistakes I've made, first of all, I didn't know I was going to make it this far in my life and my career.
Starting point is 01:31:30 I had no idea. I would still matter in any capacity after a, a 30 second commercial. Who do you think you are? You think you're sitting around with some type of crystal ball or something? That ain't enough handsome. Ain't enough talent. Ain't enough singing.
Starting point is 01:31:45 Ain't enough movie roles that can get you on and keep you on this long? God loves you. And he has all of this in mind for you. So just love yourself enough to show up every day and do the best you can with all of the things that God has in mind. for you. That's what my text would say. That is a long text. Oh yeah,
Starting point is 01:32:10 my texts are normally pretty long. So God knows me. It's like you be sending them long and I'm gonna send you one too. Oh my gosh. Really? Really? Yeah, that's it. That's it. But the moral of his text is
Starting point is 01:32:26 keep saying his name. Keep everywhere you go. I need to listen, if you ain't God, God on you, you should assume that when you walk in a room, God wasn't there before you showed up. Speak on it. Talk about it. Sit there.
Starting point is 01:32:44 You know, I went through something like that before. Talk about it, talk about it. Transition into what God got you through. Talk about it. Because the word is not his opinion. It's the word of God. So if it's the word, it's not up for discussion. He got you.
Starting point is 01:33:04 He got you. He got it. He loves you. He loves you. He loves us. He loves us. Tyrese in real life. What up, y'all?
Starting point is 01:33:17 It's your man, Tyrese, in real life. Hey, guys, thanks for watching. Make sure you subscribe, like, comment, and check out all of the other episodes we have on Andrew Martinez, IRL podcast. On The Look Back at a podcast. From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84's big to me.
Starting point is 01:33:39 I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex Eagle. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. It was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.
Starting point is 01:33:58 Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd was accused of fathering twins. But the pregnancy appeared to be a hoax. You doctored this particular test twice, Ms. Owens, correct? I doctored the test once. It took an army of internet detectives to uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg Gillespie and Michael Marantini.
Starting point is 01:34:26 My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the iPhone. Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands.
Starting point is 01:34:52 I vowed, I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you. you get your podcast.
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