Joe and Jada - Aries Spears on Ice Cube & 50 Cent beef, T.I.'s comedy, Jay-Z & DMX impressions

Episode Date: August 12, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by standup comedian and Mad TV alum Aries Spears this week. Joe and Jada ask Aries about Ice Cube and 50 Cent going after him after he criticized Cube's acting, his inc...redible impressions of Tony Soprano and NBA star Shaquille O'Neal, what he think about T.I. trying out standup comedy, and his story about running into DMX backstage at a Jay-Z show. The three New Yorkers also talk about the style-jacking going on in modern hip hop, why The Notorious B.I.G. doesn't always get the respect he deserves from Gen Z, and some of the run-ins Joe and Jada had with Mike Tyson back in the day. 6:30 - Ice Cube & 50 Cent situation 27:30 - Tony Soprano & Shaq impersonations 39:00 - Mad TV, JB Smoove & Tracy Morgan 58:30 - Joe's WILD O.J. Simpson story 1:16:15 - Story behind Jay-Z & DMX impressions 1:23:00 - Joe used Jada's line in "Make It Rain" [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.]See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jake Hofer, and this is Back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode, I'll be asking eight wide-tail hunting pros, a focused, thought-provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access? Should you, that's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand. Listen to Back40 on IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace.
Starting point is 00:00:35 You discover the depths of your mother's illness. I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the powerful stories I'll be mining on our upcoming 12th season of Family Secrets. We continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dr. Joy Hardin-Bradford, host of the Therapy for Black Girls podcast. I know how overwhelming it can feel if flying makes you anxious. In session 418 of the Therapy for Black Girls podcast, Dr. Angela Neal-Barnett and I discuss flight anxiety.
Starting point is 00:01:16 What is not a norm is to allow it to prevent you from doing the things that you want to do, the things that you were meant to do. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. If you're looking for another heavy podcast about trauma, this ain't it. This is for the ones who had to survive and still show up as brilliant, loud, soft, and whole. The Unwanted Sorority is where black women, fims, and gender expansive survivors of sexual violence, rewrite the rules on healing, support, and what happens after. And I'm your host and co-president of this organization, Dr. Leah Trettae. Listen to the Unwanted Sorority, new episodes every Thursday on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Congratulations, only 1.1 million in a short week. So I'm working on it. I'm working on it. Yo, what up, y'all? This is Joe Crack the Dawn. Your boy Jada, you know what it is? the Joe and Jay this show and we have a very special
Starting point is 00:02:33 guest. You know, we like to we bring variety of guests, but they're all golden individuals. And today, we have a very golden individual. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for our brother
Starting point is 00:02:49 with his phone ringing and all that. Erie Spears, make some noise. Yo, what up, what up, what up? What's up, my brother? You got to let me have a second to geek out for a minute. Because, you know, like my best friend over there,
Starting point is 00:03:03 you know, we came up on y'all, man, you know, in the hip hop thing. And, you know, I ain't know until I found out Joe hit me up was like, yo,
Starting point is 00:03:11 I need you to do me a solid and do the intro for my upcoming album. I was more than happy to do it. One of my favorite rappers. But I never met you until today. And I'm telling you, I'm fucked up because I'm literally sitting next to hands down
Starting point is 00:03:25 one of the greatest emcees of all time. Like you in my top five, dog. And every time I, Every time I do Vlad or any kind of show where I talk hip-hop, I go my top five, no particular order. This guy ain't shit. I always see it show me love, though.
Starting point is 00:03:38 This guy, you're Eric. I say Jada, Hoves, Knaz, Biggie, and Rock Kim. Nah, we ain't going for that. This guy ain't going to shoot me, damn. Let me tell you something. The reason I love Jada the most is because the locks, unity, they there for each of. This guy is fucking diabolical.
Starting point is 00:03:56 He's been sitting next to me in this show. I start watching old clips of the show. showing. I said, holy shit. He goes flaming me. There he goes. I didn't even know. He comes Euro step. Which was hilarious. Yeah. But listen.
Starting point is 00:04:11 No, that is. Die-all. It went viral, but it went viral, but it listened to the way I scripted it. Oh, you've told them them, listen. Can you listen? You're a legendary coach in the
Starting point is 00:04:23 Rock. Legendary coach in New York City. You won plenty of tournaments. You got A-list this out of the wazoo on your roster. Now, if you was to happen to play, I'm just saying the way you're golden, the legs that bent to the eighth wonders of the world and all of this,
Starting point is 00:04:42 if you was to hit him with the year, you know, the year old's three movements, boom, boom, boom. But if you were to hit him with the first one, when you saw that what you said, then the lay up, if you'd be unstoppable, like, it fucked me up. This guy, because for a dude that, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:57 is a rapper. And I don't be super, It was comedically on $20 million. What did you talk about? It was comedically on point. What? Because I didn't even know you had the Kenny Smiths. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:05:09 I ain't even doing it. So I saw a picture one day and I saw the knees. Yeah, and I was like, oh, I didn't know Joe was built like he was injured. You know what it is? Me, since me, he's doing business with him and being with him. He got a few different walks. Like, I don't know if it's dependent on his mood. I don't know if it's dependent.
Starting point is 00:05:29 on me he might have a good call this day nice super bags coming in right might have been you know might be one of the days I mean somebody fluctuate but some day yeah some days he got he got different walks he can you agree with me
Starting point is 00:05:45 mate you got different box in the house I got the showman Hamsley oh oh you do that I do the waddle back before no no for real though like in the house I'm walking to go eat some shit or go You see the movie, I got the Shelman Hemsley.
Starting point is 00:06:01 That's in the crib. Sheldman Hemsley. How are you going to do George Jefferson like that, man, called him? Shelman Hemp. He was calling me Ari. Yeah. I'm fried, man. I fucked up.
Starting point is 00:06:15 From the language to the legs. Listen. Listen, let me tell you some of us. Let me tell you, Arias. Let me tell you, Arias. Yes. Let me explain something to you. You're one of the funniest guys in the world.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I appreciate. all your contributions. Everything you do, I believe, it's hip-hop. Right? You always represent hip-hop culture. That's the East Coast culture. We got to fix the Ice Cube borderline violation, right? Because Ice Cube, here in this show, we, this is the love of the culture.
Starting point is 00:06:47 It's the preservation. This is like the national preservation forests of hip-hop. And whatever that means. And, you know, Ice Cube, living legend. Do you ever, is it just jokes with you or do you ever feel like? Listen, let me be clear. Did I miss something? Let me, let me, we skip the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:07:06 No, we're trying to, I'm doing the jaded kiss right now. I'm trying to fix this. Let me, let me be clear here. First and foremost, I never attacked Ice Cube the man. I never attacked this character. And first of all, my whole point was this word hate is being so overly abused and thrown around now. And unless you have an opinion that's favorable, you're a hater. No, I'm opinionated.
Starting point is 00:07:29 And sometimes in my delivery comedically, I'm going to be a little bit brutal. But at the end of the day, I'd never question his character. I'd never question him as a man. And listen, I even gave him his flowers and said, yes, he is a pioneer, a trailblazer, an icon in hip-hop, especially with the West Coast. I'm just not a fan of his artistry. And by that, I'm just simply meaning, listen, man, for me, my musical palette, my hip-hop palette, I'm an East Coast dude, man.
Starting point is 00:07:58 but I like Snoop, I like Pop, who technically is from the East. But nonetheless, just because I'm not a fear of that does not mean that I'm a hater. And if I'm being really specific, what I was really speaking to was comedically, acting wise. Because I just feel like, and listen, I know it's all about getting the bag and the money. And I just feel like with sometimes artistry, a rapper can't do comedically what a comedian can because that's a muscle. That's an instinct. That's in our blood. We eat, sleep, shit, breathe comedy.
Starting point is 00:08:31 No more than I can go in the booth and do what you can. Better than you. You know, I saw T.I. do some comedy. He was actually pretty good. Okay, don't go there. Your opinion. It's your opinion.
Starting point is 00:08:48 That's my opinion. But the comedy community will tell you otherwise. Because here's a problem. Here's a problem. If you're going to step into another, the genre, you've got to humble yourself. And T.I. approaches comedy with the same bravado he approaches
Starting point is 00:09:03 rap. That's a different aesthetic. Yeah. Humber yourself. I agree with you. I thought T.I. was funny. Right? And I'm, and I may die one day. No, no. No, no, but I may die one day of laughter. I don't know if nobody...
Starting point is 00:09:20 Well, then I'm going to be the one to kill you. Of laughing. Because I'm the guy they threw me out. The movie theater, Eddie Murphy Raw. I went over there with the whole projects. Out of the whole projects, the security came was like, you're an asshole. You're the one that got to go.
Starting point is 00:09:38 I'm the one making the most noise in the movie theater. They threw me out the movie. I am a sucker for a laugh. Like a sucker for a laugh. So I thought, see, I was funny, but there's levels to this shit. Well, I even, I'm going to admit something here, too, that I've been noticing I've been looking to
Starting point is 00:09:58 and sit, you know, you know, and hip hop is all about competition. Right. So you've got to convince yourself you're better
Starting point is 00:10:06 than every other rap or whatever the case may be. And so, there's a bit of delusion and whatever. And so we start the podcast and the first thing I do is start shooting.
Starting point is 00:10:17 You know, like I want to smoke with all the podcasts and I realize I got to humble myself a little because we just started this even though we're the rookies of the year.
Starting point is 00:10:26 but I can see where people could look at it and be like yo this guy you know but this is just my heart I've always been like a warrior gladiator to come out there for the smoke but I realize the park has a different space
Starting point is 00:10:39 it's like everybody's smiling at each other nobody got smoke with each other so I'm thinking top five dead or alive who want to jump out where's the smoke who we got but that ain't what it's about it's about having an opinion and bringing something to the people
Starting point is 00:10:53 so I get what you're saying with the, well, T.I. Go ahead, kiss. I mean, you're right and wrong. It's different kind of, there's different kind of smokers. It's like, behind the scenes. It's behind the scenes hate
Starting point is 00:11:09 and smoke with this. But I don't think about you. For one, this ain't even out. You're just, we barring this bitch. Well, at least I am. I mean, if you tell me podcasting or rapping, Ladies and gentlemen
Starting point is 00:11:26 This is our last show I like it But you know what I mean The ones you could do both You know The people start thinking You're taking their jobs I don't
Starting point is 00:11:35 So you've been feeling I'm way behind the scenes You know You just being Voic I'm just watching them From the side Have you ever dealt with this
Starting point is 00:11:45 Because you're one of the most liked MCs of all time Have you ever dealt with this? I am but I ain't When it's time to go through Rearney Spartan, then I'm not that liked as I am winning. And just so you know, it wasn't just
Starting point is 00:11:59 Cube that jumped on me, 50 jumped on me too, because of that. Because the joke I made about 50, you know what I mean? See, but 50 in them, niggas, they'll beat you up, Ares. I'm just keeping it real. Maybe Ice Cube is regular. You know... What's you all with this guy? No, no, no, no, no. I'm keeping it a buck.
Starting point is 00:12:17 You run into them guys in the airport, they might do something to you. I had beef with them. Well, that's cool. So I know what I know what the beef is. Is it one thing for us to just like, certain guys you don't play with because they're going to jump up. Listen.
Starting point is 00:12:32 I love the comedians. I'm like, it's no thing with comedians. Joe, Joe, Joe, I don't ever pretend to be something. I'm not, you know, I ain't an Evans nigga. I'm a huckstable. But best believe, I keep dudes with me too. The old Jews.
Starting point is 00:12:44 They're going to have to jump up. A team of Jews. I'm telling you. A team of Jews. And I'll sue a motherfucker in a minute. Y'all, Fendi. Fendi, we got royalty in the building I ain't no Fendi snuck in there
Starting point is 00:12:58 We got us Trump back We got a studio audience, correct? We have a studio audience, correct? We have a studio audience. By Ares, I'm just trying to, I got to be honest with you because you're my guy. You're on my album, I fuck with you.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Yeah. You know, I advocate for you every time I can because I think you're hilarious but I do know where that could go wrong. Well, of course. That one. The ice cube, you know, you know what is. Hey, like, that one could go wrong.
Starting point is 00:13:20 I'm promising you. You know. You put hands and feet on. people, too. Why you just act like he don't do that? That's a super fact. But it's nothing about that. He's a comedian. Listen, let me tell you the joke.
Starting point is 00:13:32 It was almost harmless. I was talking about how, you know, anytime they make a brother playing a movie where he's a scientist or a computer tech, like 50 did in the movie with Stallone, I thought he was in some prisons and glass cubes. And I said, you know what the difference between
Starting point is 00:13:49 50, the rapper, from 50 to computer tech? I'm a computer tick I'm a computer tick glasses Clark Kent Superman if you're a great actor you don't need the glasses
Starting point is 00:14:06 just do the performance so that was the joke let me tell you something right I've been such a fan of comedy where I believe comics should never and could never be canceled so like the moment they
Starting point is 00:14:21 fake canceled Dave Chappelle I started going in his shows to perform at his show yo Dave you in town I want to come out do a couple of because I believe comedy is the one sweet spot in life where the white, black
Starting point is 00:14:37 Asian whatever yeah should be where they could talk about whatever the fuck they want to talk about you know that's how I feel about comedy and so that's how you must feel about it too, huh?
Starting point is 00:14:51 Listen, three of the greatest quotes ever, Dave Chappelle, you don't know where the line is in comedy until you cross it. George Carlin, you should know where the line is in comedy and deliberately crossing. Patrice O'Neill, God rest his soul. Great comedy leaves half the audience laughing,
Starting point is 00:15:06 the other half horrified. Wow. So that's the credo. That's what they said. I live by. Yeah, man. Are you from the cloth, man? Who would you say ushered you into the game?
Starting point is 00:15:17 Who was like a mentor? This guy came in the game at 14. That's his... I think that's the... He made history. There's nobody else who ever... Def Jam 16, showtime with Apollo 17.
Starting point is 00:15:30 So what I'm saying is who... I was the 80s baby. So in that era, you know, prior to the explosion of Def Jam, Hollywood only allowed one nigger per decade. So it was like, you know what I mean? It was like... Definitely.
Starting point is 00:15:45 A niggas. And what's my man named? Dick Gregory, really. And in the 60s. Prior in the 70s, Eddie in the 80s, and then by the 90s, death jam hit, and now black comics was everywhere.
Starting point is 00:15:58 But Eddie was my dude, was my, like, my inspiration. Because I know he started at 14. So I was like, if he did it, I'm gonna do. How does it go with comedy?
Starting point is 00:16:05 Is it like rap or whatever? Like, how do they determine who's going to get the bag, right? Because there's so many funny comedians. Like, I did Hollywood, what did I do? Squares.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Hollywood Squares. No, Hollywood Squares. What's your man? And family fuel. I want to go on family few. You should take your family, man, on there. Or the road, or on D-Blanc. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:16:30 We should set that up. So we go on there and got the fluffy. Oh, Gabriel and guys. Spanish guy. I didn't know much about them. And then they turned around and said, you know, this guy sold out Dodgers Stadium. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:45 So who determines who's going to be a big boy, who's going to be the underground, going to be, you know, in rap music, some guys choose to be underground, but they're like, yo, I don't want to hit. I just want to be the purest. And then some people, like me,
Starting point is 00:17:03 you know, commercialize. Some people might call that sellout when I have a record, like What's Love? Who determines Well, in terms if you're talking about just straight movies and TV, the gatekeepers to those is, you know, the right folks, they run that. You know what I mean? If you talk about more like
Starting point is 00:17:19 stand up in the grind, that's on you. you know and a lot of people always go man you should be bigger you should this listen my mouth is my biggest attribute but it's also my biggest detriment you know what I mean so it's like I say a lot of shit that sparks controversy I'm a hater I'm this I'm that so you know it works for you it's it's working for me but it ain't who took off that you was like you know listen I'm like who took off that you was like why are you lying in No, I'm not lining them up. I'm just, who took off?
Starting point is 00:17:55 There's some dudes where you just go, you know, I just don't understand. Like, there's no sense in this game. You know what I mean? There's no logic to none of this shit. You know, the people that are where they are deserve to be there. Kevin Hart deserves to be there. You know, Mike Epps deserves to be there.
Starting point is 00:18:13 But, you know, at the end of the day, you just got to play this bullshit game, man. You know, I feel like if I put it in boxing, in terms, you know, let me put it like this. I got Michael Jordan Dreams but Dennis Robin Habits. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:18:29 I'm saying? I should be Madison Avenue. Bob, Bob, Bob. But I like porn stars and liquor. So, you know, I got A-List talent, but my behavior and some of the things I do and say might be, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:41 like I said, my biggest detriment. Like me and you, we got to talk maybe in the next podcast about Will I am and what he said with Jay-Z and black, like, I mean... I'm staying out of that. Yeah, but you got to...
Starting point is 00:18:55 I mean... You got to stay out of that head. You get into the... No, I'm going to... I'm going to definitely got something to say about that. I don't. You ain't got nothing to say about that. But my point is, them guys became huge.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Right? They beat me for the Grammy. All black. They beat me for What's Love. What's Love was like number one in the country. They beat me for the Grammy. This is before Fergie. Right?
Starting point is 00:19:21 once they get Fergie, they start making world music and all this shit, and they take everything, right? But those are guys that went out there that surprised me when they were selling $10 million, $20 million, not saying the music ain't good, but that's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Like, you've seen somebody leak through and you was like, whoa, but to just give you some gems or some knowledge right now, because we're talking, even though this is funny, but we're talking about some serious shit, I think you figured out everything. You just answered it.
Starting point is 00:19:55 I think if you analyze this video, you can make certain changes to catapult you to the next level. Just look at the words you said and just make some adjustments. You know, I think part of what puts me or what's going to put me on this path is doing stuff like this. You know what I'm saying? Like for once upon a time ago, I was against the whole social media putting stand-up clips out. against that. But then I was like, you know what, man, I took a page out of Matt Rife
Starting point is 00:20:24 book. It was like, let me hire you a videographer and let me, you know, pay to play. And because I did that, I went from, I mean, within the course of three months, I went from 300,000 Instagram followers to 1.4. You know, my Facebook jumped from 300,000 to 1.8.
Starting point is 00:20:42 So, you know, and people is funny, like, I always say people, most people are fucking idiots. Because people will say shit online, like, Man, all he do is crowd work. Do he ever tell a joke? And I said, listen, man, you don't give the key of cocaine away for free. I'm giving you a sample of the product.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Once you like the sample, now come to the show and pay for the key. I got to tell you this. I got to cut up your food for you to eat like your mother did when you were a toddler so you don't choke. Certain things is common fucking knowledge. Why not I got to tell you this? That's crazy. Man, he's funny. All he does is impressions.
Starting point is 00:21:18 So I'm 36 years in this game. All I know how to do is dunk. Man, I sit down in the studio sometimes. Like, I heard some shit. Somebody said, you definitely don't want no part of this, what I'm about to say. He's not responsible for the next line. But somebody said, they're not like us. I forget who it was, said that it wasn't mixed right.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Somebody said, yo, that wasn't mixed right. Right? I forget who? James, look that up right now because that's important. somebody said yo it wasn't the music wasn't mixed right right and then some people agreed with the Rodney Jenkins
Starting point is 00:21:57 somebody agreed with them and said yeah you know it could have been mixed better right but all we know is that they're not like us is a smoker that shit tilted the whole
Starting point is 00:22:12 hemisphere right and so when I get in the studio with producers and they start to talk about a smash hit record they'd be like his snare wasn't right
Starting point is 00:22:21 the 808 I'm like yo bro no one gives a fuck about what it should have been or how professional
Starting point is 00:22:30 it is the fucking record it's number one it's a fucking it and I've been in there in the studio with producers
Starting point is 00:22:37 this guy didn't use the tinkerbell right he didn't yo my man who gives a fuck this shit is number one and so
Starting point is 00:22:45 who was that DJ Vlad said what? Well, listen, Vlad. No, no, but the engineers agreed with him. They said, Kendrick sent that shit in and said, I want it out in a half an hour. So the engineer was like, yo, I couldn't even mix it. It was just, it was a good, it was a smash hit.
Starting point is 00:23:04 He did the best he could, and that shit went out there. So he actually was right. I didn't hear it like that. When I hear that shit going crazy in the club and the stadium and everything going crazy, I'm like, you're going crazy. I'm like, you're going to say, yeah. Yeah. I didn't know how we were supposed to stand.
Starting point is 00:23:20 The person, no, because why did I come up with that scenario? You know, I'm fried. I keep telling you showing me. No, no, no, no, I'm fried. American history is full of wise people. What women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea, and 1% is gory. Those founding fathers were gossipy AF, and they love to cut each other down. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history, and I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Hamilton pauses, and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar. And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on, corruption. My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said. It would have been harder to fake it than to do it. Listen to American History Hotline on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up guys? Welcome to Augusto Papa, the go-to spot for everything Musica Mexicaa. We're proud Mexican-Americans who live and breathe this music. We started this podcast to share and discuss our views on musica mexicana whether you like pezo pluma los alaires del barranco
Starting point is 00:24:49 ariel camacho or ivan cornejo when you gain your feels then this podcast is for you we deep dive into music reviews pezo plum show last year everything was a 10 out of 10 fashion and lifestyle inspired by the roots of musica mexicana the craziest controversies and chismes i don't have nothing against force i know and i don't think jope should be mad at me song and artist comparisons competition in the scene there is competition there is sides to this there's pezo plo plo Luma, Double P, and there's JOPP, street mob. I think at the end of the day, it's business, it's all competition. And, of course, our personal stories and opinions along the way.
Starting point is 00:25:24 This isn't just a podcast. It's a movement for fans who live Musica Mexicana every single day. Listen to Augusto Papa as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. We all know, right? Genius is evenly distributed. Opportunity is not. It's Black Business Month.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Black Tech Green Money is tapping in. I'm Will Lucas spotlighting Black founders, investors, and innovators, building the future one idea at a time. Let's talk legacy, tech, and generational wealth. I don't think any person of any gender, race, ethnicity should alter who they are, especially on an intellectual level or a talent level, to make someone else feel comfortable just because they are the majority in this situation and they need employment. So for me, I'm always going to be honest in saying that we need to be unapologetically ourselves.
Starting point is 00:26:15 If that makes me a vocal CEO and people consider that rocking the boat, so be it. To hear this and more on the power of black innovation and ownership, listen to Black Tech Green Money from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Adventure should never come with a pause button. Remember the movie pass era where you could watch all the movies you wanted for just $9? It made zero cents and I could not stop thinking about it. I'm Richard Todd.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Host of the tech podcast, there are no girls on the air. On this new season, I'm talking to the innovators who are left out of the tech headlines. Like the visionary behind a movie pass, black founder Stacey Spikes, who was pushed out of Movie Pass the company that he founded. His story is wild and it's currently the subject of a juicy new HBO documentary. We dive into how culture connects us. When you go to France, or you go to England, or you go to Hong Kong, those kids are wearing Jordans, they're wearing Kobe's shirt, they're.
Starting point is 00:27:15 watching Black Panther. And the challenges of being a black founder. Close your eyes and tell me what a tech founder looks like. They're not going to describe someone who looks like me and they're not going to describe someone who looks like you. I created There Are No Girls on the Internet because the future belongs to all of us. So listen to There Are No Girls on the Internet
Starting point is 00:27:31 on the IHurt Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What do people ask you to do? What's your most successful impersonation? Oh, shit. What'd you say? I know it all. They all are.
Starting point is 00:27:46 They like the Tony Soprano. They like the Tony Soprano. Oh, yeah, you'd be killing. It's fucking Mato and A.J. It's going out of the fucking Artis. Got the Madagabat, but they go fucking gravy. All my kids love it. Mello and Azee.
Starting point is 00:27:58 I'm my sister Janice and fucking Johnny Shack. You know, that shit is crazy to me. That shit is... I don't know. My voice might be like Friday. You have a Italian spot of all Italian joint and you start talking like that the whole fucking place to look at you, right?
Starting point is 00:28:12 They be like, yo, what the fuck? They love it. And when I do it at the shit. show, it's like the Italians go, fucking niggins good. You know, that one guy he does a good Denzel. Oh, just, C. King?
Starting point is 00:28:26 Yeah. Let me tell you something. Heap of all the dudes that did Denzel, me, Gawry, my man, Reggie Reg out of Chicago, C. King, and Dean Edwards. And again, this plays two people going, man, you're a hater.
Starting point is 00:28:40 You won't give it up to other people. I said, listen, C. King was, it's so cold. with it. I stopped doing it because I felt foolish. He's dead the fuck on. And every chance I get to promote him, I tell people, people still hit me up and go, yo, you Denzel. C. King, he got the crown, he got that. He got the crown. He's like that. It's like that. Sometimes, you know, you got a big, sometimes somebody does something so good. You don't want to fuck with it. Well, you know, everybody like there's, there's certain impressions that everybody own. Like you go Frank Calliando owns Madden, C. King owns Denzel.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Jay Farrell owns Will Smith. So for me, it's like Tony Soprano, Shack, you know. As long as I score at 28, 10, I'm going to dominate. If you're on school 28, you're going to dominate. I get a baller inside, inside, outside game. You got to get a big dog to ball, man. You got to put the eyes. That's a comedian.
Starting point is 00:29:40 That's a little comedic part of it. You know, why you're making it look like he in the back of the box? He killed Shaq is so rich. He sounds just like that. Yo, he sound just like. But you ain't see the eyes? Yo, you know, no, no, no, you, Shaq, he was doing the real
Starting point is 00:29:55 Jack is in the yellow bus. Shaq loves it, but he loves it. He loves it. He was on a drink. Hey, I love Jay to Kiss, but he really fucking me up with this Euro step shit. I'm like, no, no, no, no. You being a comedian, you've seen that shit. You thought somebody helped.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Did anybody do the battery in his back for him to hit me Listen. That was too good. That shit was too good. Joe, I can't keep fighting you for verbal rebound position. Listen, rappers and comedians have a little bit of... Because it's wordplay. It's jokes, it's metaphors, it's punchlines.
Starting point is 00:30:33 So that's not a surprise. Listen, I can rap, but I'm not a rapper. But I can... Some lyrics. Let me see. I don't want to embarrass myself, but... Because I tried to do a biggie impression, and it was awful. But I wrote the lyrics where I said something about the Biggie Baby Delivers,
Starting point is 00:30:51 cold like the shivers, talk slick shit, spit game is vicious, malicious. How a roll through you like a cancer, doc speak, bleak, talk about your chances, seem to work slow to chemo, flesh to the bone marrow, life went on that row, fuck sarow, fuck beef, make peace with your priested least, think about tomorrow, Papa, spotcha, Biggie B, then drop you, Chris, keep it real, keep it frank like Sinatra, something like that. so I'm not a rapper but I, you know what I, I can
Starting point is 00:31:18 And I'm better than this new generation these niggins is cottage He was using the Bia voice a little bit But I don't really have it like that How do you feel when you go in Enough people have Jack Biggie's voice That he don't have to be that accurate Like, you know
Starting point is 00:31:33 Every fat dude Came up to me With Biggie voice Yeah I personally, no disrespect guys Let me, if you want to learn something right now in hip-hop, I think I've been in it for a long time as a fan, as a rapper. Don't jack nobody.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Their style, their voice, their swag, you're wasting your time. Do you know how many guys I met that were fucking dead nice? They only had to be was dumb, and they might have been a superstar, but when they come on, and they're doing the voice, don't like nobody sounding like nobody. That's why when I get called the old head for going, yo, why don't you like this new generation?
Starting point is 00:32:23 All you niggas sound the same. The same melodies, the same cadence, the same flow. All you do, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-ba. All you niggas sound the same. But it was always like that, right? No, no, no. If you have, listen, if you, in the 90s?
Starting point is 00:32:40 Trechters was rhyming like this. Do your niggins, it's crazy. If you look at every video at that time, every rapper from anywhere was doing. Whoever's been popping, they've been jacking these people. If DMX, Tretch had that move, if DMX was, you know how many guys I've seen come in the studio with a dog thinking they hurt? And those guys didn't last. No, at all. So originality was a thing back then.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Oh, no, very, very much of thing. But now it's commonplace to be the same. It's crazy. But I do believe that this new generation is a lot different from my, and I'm not trying to hate on them or talk them down. I just say that they're looking more for the bag or the lick. It ain't so much culture. It ain't so much, oh, yo, this was the legacy.
Starting point is 00:33:33 This is a legacy. They're like, yo, for some reason, everybody. I don't know if it's like that in comedy, but everybody think they could be a rapper. think this is the easiest job in the world. Everybody. The guy at the Target, the guy who works the front desk in this building,
Starting point is 00:33:52 the guy at the deli, the dudes on the corner, everybody think that rap is just the easiest shit in the world and they could become successful. But a lot of people feel like today it is because it's garbage. The shit is just not as potent as it used to be. It's garbage.
Starting point is 00:34:10 So the dude that Target can be a rapper. It's stepto. bacon soda I'm telling you if I really wanted to I could do this shit but my passion for excellence
Starting point is 00:34:22 won't allow me to sound like garbage I try to tell like guys similar I try to we're not so offensive but I try to tell
Starting point is 00:34:33 like my nephews or whoever try to rap and all I'd be like yo it's so much easier for you and we had the guard rock Kim
Starting point is 00:34:41 you know even fat Joe I discovered a big pun I went to the school of Big Pun. Meaning we double platinum and the parties outside and we're the hottest. And he'd be like,
Starting point is 00:34:52 fuck that. We write rhymes today. There's 90 degrees and everybody coming in the Benz's in the truck. Yo, we're going to Orchabees. We're like, fuck all that. Crack, we're writing. And so I went to the school of Big Pump
Starting point is 00:35:04 where he will bust your bubble. Like the way we used to rhyme when Big Pump was alive, it's not even healthy for your brain. Like, you find a way to put 50 words in one loose leaf thing. One of the most classics ever, that diddley, dittily, dittily.
Starting point is 00:35:21 This is exactly what I'm thinking of while I'm explaining it to you. Right? It's like when we did that song, it was like so much pressure to put every word together, everything together. And now you got to have some swag,
Starting point is 00:35:38 some melody, something. It's definitely easier now. Listen, man, I sent out a post one time where I said Biggie's niggas bleed should be a tutorial for anybody trying to rap because with that
Starting point is 00:35:52 that picture he painted with the melody and the pace of the song you thought you was looking at a scene in a Martin Scorsese film I mean it was vivid and I'm like that should be
Starting point is 00:36:04 if you're gonna be a rapper you have to you should have in real life I can't say much yeah in real life I can't say as much as him because they was actually
Starting point is 00:36:12 part of the team But, you know, Biggie was my man. And I seen the Scorsese pitcher in real life. You know, I was in his house hanging out with him in Brooklyn. And this, he just got lit. But I mean, like, just got lit. He was like, yo, Joe, come to my show. I think it was Rosalander to the Palladium.
Starting point is 00:36:33 I got a show tonight, this and that. And Biggie was like us. Hockey shirt, shorts, whatever, this, this. And man, when I seen the pictures of that party, where he had the salmon suit on with the gaiters. I've seen him transform into that character. Not saying he ain't the real deal, but I seen it with my own eyes.
Starting point is 00:36:53 It shocked me. I knew him and I couldn't believe it. Like, he did so much for the culture of, you know, taking, you know, if you think about Biggie, everything was underground before that. So a song like Mass Appeal that was straight hardcore beats, preamore and lyrics from guru, rest and peace. That was a hit.
Starting point is 00:37:15 And that was playing on every radio station. And it was like hardcore shit was the hit. And then Biggie turned it into like taking those samples and making it a super hit. Right. So his vision to rap on those beats and to take it to another level, everything about him, it still, uh, pause blows my mind. Every time I listen to Biggie because I just can't believe he was. that good, like, and it's
Starting point is 00:37:46 cadence and it's flow. Well, it's funny, because again, when people go, you know, what's your top five? And I say it, and I've seen this online where people go, I don't know how people put big in eight top five. He only released two albums. And I'm going, listen, how much evidence do you need to see to tell that somebody is special? So what do you think that if he, if he was alive, he would have just fell off? It was going to get better. I don't need eight albums to know what you were. You showed me to
Starting point is 00:38:13 first time. So come on, man. That's what I'm telling you, man. People are fucking stupid. Most people are fucking stupid. Like, you really don't see it. You don't understand it. And because I'll say that,
Starting point is 00:38:29 I'll just stick the head. What you want me to do? Staying true to your opinion and you voice in your opinion. I don't disagree with you. I've had young kids tell me that big he sounds like to the hip. To them right now.
Starting point is 00:38:43 With the way they rap, you know, the youth is crazy. Look, our heroes, well, my heroes, like I said, I grew up on your, Rakim, KRS 1, you know what I mean? Biggie, their heroes is Lou Oosie, satchels and purses. I can't disrespect, little Uzi on here. That's your opinion. He's my guy and I love him. What was your experience like on Mad TV?
Starting point is 00:39:09 When I saw you on there, it was like, you was fucking lit young it was like one of the first black people on mad TV for me yeah yeah were you no actually before that was Orlando Jones Phil Lamar and Debra Wilson
Starting point is 00:39:25 I came in season three he was one of the litters yeah listen man I you know again if I could have had it my way I would have loved to have taken the path of Eddie Murphy you know a couple years on SNL and then to the stratosphere but I didn't get a chance
Starting point is 00:39:41 playing the NBA. I played in CBA or the ABA. You know what I mean? Mad TV just wasn't S&L. Let me tell you something. But they always got that little white affiliation. No disrespect to my white brothers and sisters, but they always got like J.B.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Smooth. He's pretty much a black Jew. Like he with that Larry David, he must be performing at every bar miss for. J.B. Smooth is Jewish. Don't get that fucked up. You know what? They got that.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Once you get that little. Eminem Co-Sign. I'm telling you, that's my man. They love him. The Jews love him. He's down with Larry David. That's his group. Like Tracy Morgan.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Tracy Morgan, keep it all the way in pop. Big Go Chase. Like, I'd be working. No, I'd be bumping there. Tracy Morgan's one guy. I bump into the hood in a million-dollar Lamborghini any other day with the top-off.
Starting point is 00:40:36 I don't know what the fuck he's doing there. He's driving by himself, no security. he's all away hood but for some reason the white people really love Tracy Morgan I mean he had all the right notes
Starting point is 00:40:49 you know what I mean Saturday Live 30 Rock you know what I mean so he had all the right notes and listen I've worked with so there is a truth to that oh absolutely and listen Tracy man
Starting point is 00:40:57 you know I love you we comedians but always go Tracy Morgan sounds like a New York City drag wave yo yeah Tracian
Starting point is 00:41:07 how you doing That's comic banter, man He's got shit None of my eyes, huh? But that's what comics do, man. If he was here, he hit me back. Yeah, I'm Tracy. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Tracy caught that bag, too. Yeah, he's all dead. That motherfucker got too much money. Every time I see him, yo, can I invest? He don't even know what he wanted to invest in. Every time I say, do you want some money? Can I invest? Like, yo, Tracy, I don't need no money now.
Starting point is 00:41:44 That motherfucker got the super bag. You know, he told me, he said, if he dropped, could we live in the same neighborhood? His shit is bigger than mine. Don't get it fucked up. That's that 30 rock money. I think it was that Walmart money. I'm sure that made the bag heavier.
Starting point is 00:42:01 But NBC, Tina Fey, Alec, Alec Baldwin, 30 rock prime time. I'm sure he had the bag, but the bag. Yeah. You know, when you lawsuit, it's like, you don't get no taxes on that or not. You get the whole whatever you get. But he said he called the cops on his, if he sees his brother and sisters in that neighborhood because they don't belong there. He'll call the cops like, yo, they're outside.
Starting point is 00:42:24 That's hilarious. That's hilarious. Yo, how does it work when you try some material and they don't land how you expect it? Just throw it out or? No, you just go back in the lab and rework it. And, you know, I always say a joke is never done because you don't know at what point at any point at night you're on a stage
Starting point is 00:42:43 and you say one word that takes it from here to here. So a joke is never done. You know, big pun was real funny. And I grew up with some funny guys. Yeah. And I had this one friend and maybe you just, what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:43:03 If he gets you laughing, he will double. triple quadruple five times double down like he'll just keep on with the shit where you can't you know where you got cramps and shit like you just can't take it no more
Starting point is 00:43:17 he's like a real assassin you know he's like the movie killer some shit like that he really trying to kill you with the shit that's my approach on stage man like if you got him you're like oh no I'm gonna finish this guy this guy my approach is I'm Mike Tyson in the 80s
Starting point is 00:43:33 we ain't going two rounds I'm trying to tell your head off That's why I'm glad I came up When I did, man I got these t-shirts I'm a drop that says Built 80's tough Because the shit we did back then
Starting point is 00:43:45 Kids don't do now And I think it's kind of made them a little soft When you went to a show What one of the shows you went to Where you was on the lineup And there was some other people on the lineup Say like for us It's a somber jam or something like that
Starting point is 00:44:01 And you're like, yo I'm going to smoke this And you walk out of the end you know, top dog, you know, that night. What, what, who else was on the line up? It was the, uh, the, after death jam exploded, it was the first death, uh, jam tour. And it was, uh, Adele Givens, Reggie McFadden, me, Bill Bellamy, and Bernie Mac. And, uh, Bernie, whof, step your game up.
Starting point is 00:44:27 You let that bitch up. Step your game up. You know, because every time I got a concert, Fabulous wants to perform after me, I don't know Why? We got to ask Fab when he come here because I've watched him sit in the car. Like, the lineup says Fabulous and Fat Joe and Nellie or something like this.
Starting point is 00:44:48 The man find a way all the time to perform after me. Fendi here. Yo, Fendi, why does Fabulous want to perform after Fat Joe in every shot? Like, Seattle, Washington. I'm going to ask him when he comes on the couch.
Starting point is 00:45:05 But I'm just trying to tell you, is there anybody like that? Then you're just like, oh, he's trying to, like, because Fab is particular the one that he wanted to, I mean, you're up anywhere. I don't care if I got the number one song in the world. He's going to find a way to come late to perform after. But why is that, you think? Is it because, is it a-
Starting point is 00:45:24 We got to ask him because I'm confused because he's my friend. He's my buddy. I'm asking you, do you think it's a thing where it's like, he doesn't want to follow you or he wants to? I'm confused. I keep telling you, I'm confused. We didn't did everything from stadiums to little low budget. You know, every last minute, you know, it's a nice winter day.
Starting point is 00:45:45 They call you and they'll be like, yo, somebody's having this birthday party. We got a little bag, pull up, and it's me and Fab. And I watch him in the car like this waiting for me to go on, perform. The minute I'm on stage, I see Fab come in. He grabbed the mic after me. You know, I don't know what it is. I don't know if he does that to everybody. He does it to me.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Who does that to you? Nobody really, because, you know, whenever I would do, you know, theaters with four or five other comics, your placement was your placement. I want to go before rap. I want to go early anyway and rip the gizetrons off and leave you with no gizetrons drunk. I don't want to go after it.
Starting point is 00:46:31 I want to make it for as hard. I don't want to go after it's a super pause. But let me tell you something, I feel the same way. I got no problem. At certain places where I go, if they'll be like, Joe, you got a half an hour, that's easier for me. That's hit mania. I just keep bang, bang, bang to they dizzy.
Starting point is 00:46:52 And I'm mad at it. You made a mistake if you want to perform after me, especially if they say, yo, Joe, just a half an hour, 45. I'm just coming with straight hits. You know, you said earlier that, you know, They did something to me last week. They didn't do nothing to me. But I'm out in L.A. I got a concert
Starting point is 00:47:10 and I knew it was a mistake. So, like, they put me before somebody and I was like, oh, this is a mistake. I said, because I'm about to tear the pain off this bitch so bad that this next person will perform after me and they're legends. And I was like, this is a mistake.
Starting point is 00:47:31 But I ain't say nothing. You know, you know what talking to him, it's like, playing a double-dutch. You got to try to jump in. Because even when I started the States, you said with that, you said verbal, you said verbal, a rebound position. Either or.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Yo, me and Norrie, we go on vacation. You feel what I'm doing well, man. Man. Because I clearly was off the runway, and that niggas said, and then here's the thing. So let me, you earlier said
Starting point is 00:48:01 you'd love to laugh and you take a joke and all that. All the time. Do, does anybody ever comedians, do you like, don't fuck what,
Starting point is 00:48:08 like, you know what I'm saying? If somebody tried to fuck with you, would that bother you? Nah. Okay. That's the job.
Starting point is 00:48:15 I wouldn't. Because I wanted to say, man, you got the blackest fingers I've ever seen, you got trick daddy fingers. They're similar to the paint in the eyes.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Okay, there you go. We might be cousins. To-s-s-cha. You know, these guys are too funny. Tushie. You might be gone on fucks with
Starting point is 00:48:31 a rade. Tush. It got me stereo. Stereos. type. I can't walk the teeth to all of them. That's what a hero. He got the diabolical.
Starting point is 00:48:41 I know when it's premeditated. That was it. That was, that was, that was, that's what we do. That's only in the back of mayor. That's only in the back of me. He said, you know, whatever you want to use the euro or Joe, it's over. Like, yo, your motherfuckers, plant that one. That shit was too incredible.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Does anybody ever disagree with the euro? No. I agree with you. I, you know, that shit was crazy. My name. That was the hero. You all, I said that shit. I said, y'all that shit was dying.
Starting point is 00:49:11 You do got the hero. You all I looked at that. We might have to set up a celebrity game. Let me see if you can hit somebody with it. American history is full of wise people. What women said something like, you know, 99.99.99. of war is diarrhea and 1% is gory. Those founding fathers were gossipy A.F.
Starting point is 00:49:41 And they love to cut each other down. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history, and I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer. Hamilton pauses and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar. And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption.
Starting point is 00:50:08 My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said. It would have been harder to fake it than to do it. Listen to American History Hotline on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, guys? Welcome to Augusto Papa, the go-to spot for everything Musica Mexicana. We're proud Mexican-Americans who live and breathe. this music, we started this podcast to share and discuss our views on Musica Mexicana.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Whether you like Pesso Pluma, Los Aligres del Barranco, Ariel Camacho, or Ivan Cornero, when you gain your feels, then this podcast is for you. We deep dive into music reviews. Pesso Pluma Show last year, everything was a 10 out of 10. Fashion and lifestyle inspired by the roots of musica Mexicaa, the craziest controversies and chismes. I don't have nothing against Fuerreso, I know, and I don't think Joe P should be mad at me. Song and artist comparisons, competition in the scene, there is competition.
Starting point is 00:51:03 There is sides to this. There's Pesso Pluma, Double Pee, and there's JOP, stream, mob. I think at the end of the day, it's business, it's all competition. And, of course, our personal stories and opinions along the way. This isn't just a podcast. It's a movement for fans who live Musica Mexicana every single day. Listen to Augusto Papa as part of the MyCultura podcast network
Starting point is 00:51:23 on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. We all know, right? Genius is evenly distributed. opportunity is not. It's Black Business Month and Black Tech Green Money is tapping in. I'm Will Lucas spotlighting Black founders, investors and innovators,
Starting point is 00:51:42 building the future, one idea at a time. Let's talk legacy, tech, and generational wealth. I don't think any person of any gender, race, ethnicity should alter who they are, especially on an intellectual level or a talent level to make someone else feel comfortable just because they are the majority
Starting point is 00:51:58 in this situation and they need employment. So for me, I'm always going to going to be honest in saying that we need to be unapologetically ourselves. If that makes me a vocal CEO and people consider that rocking the boat, so be it. To hear this and more on the power of black innovation and ownership, listen to Black Tech Green Money from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Adventure should never come with a pause button.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Remember the movie pass era where you could watch all the movies you wanted for just $9? It made zero sense and I could not stop thinking about it. I'm Bridget Todd, host of the tech podcast, there are no girls on the internet. On this new season, I'm talking to the innovators who are left out of the tech headlines. Like the visionary behind a movie pass, Black founder Stacey Spikes, who was pushed out of movie pass the company that he founded. His story is wild and it's currently the subject of a juicy new HBO documentary. We dive into how culture connects us. When you go to France or you go to English,
Starting point is 00:52:58 or you go to Hong Kong. Those kids are wearing Jordans. They're wearing Kobe's shirt. They're watching Black Panther. And the challenges of being a Black founder. Close your eyes and tell me what a tech founder looks like. They're not going to describe someone who looks like me and they're not going to describe someone who looks like you.
Starting point is 00:53:17 I created There Are No Girls on the Internet because the future belongs to all of us. So listen to There Are No Girls on the Internet on the IHurt Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Harry, all I care about, besides God and family, your health is getting to the bag. So even if I got to laugh my way at myself to the bank, I laugh it. And to answer you, I went to the Beacon Theater. I'm sure you've been there before, right? And it was, I think it's Joe Torrey, but I was late. And the worst thing you could ever do is walk in a comedy show.
Starting point is 00:53:58 late, and the man caught me, and he wouldn't let go. He was like the pit bull. He was like, yo, that's one of my worst fids, though, like, they beat put the spotlight on you, like Reggie and um, right.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Notty professor. Yo, this guy choreed me up in real life. Yeah, no. You talk on Joe Torrey? He's in the back of my neck, it's got Franks. Joe Torrey is one of twas. He got a good 10 to 20 on me. And I'm still sitting down trying to play it off laughing and the whole fucking
Starting point is 00:54:30 Beekwin is laughing at me he kept going. Joe's one of the dudes him and D.L. Hewley, who I studied in terms of going, all right, telling jokes is one thing, but there's certain aspects to the game. Crowdwork. And Joe is vicious.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Joe once told a dude, he said something about his mother. And the guy goes, hey man, don't talk about my mother. She's dead. And Joe said, I'll go fuck, I'll dig the bitch up, prop up against a tree so I can talk about it some more. Oh, my God. Whoa. It was in his hometown
Starting point is 00:54:59 Yeah, I mean, in his trip You know To say some shit like that That's a little bit too much Listen, when a heckler When a motherfucker is drunk And heckling you There's no such thing
Starting point is 00:55:11 It's too much Because drunk people turn into suicide bombers They're not afraid to die So it's gonna be you and me You know what I mean? Man That's a lot of humor right there The handle, bro
Starting point is 00:55:22 But he fucked me up He said he can squeeze the donut out My forehead He was going crazy Damn. And you just stayed there for that? I had to, man. I got to be a good sport.
Starting point is 00:55:32 If I walk out, that's, that's like the guy. You know the guy, the CEO guy, who's with the sidepiece up at the cold play. If he don't run away and he stands up. They caught him like that in the cookie car. He might as going to just finish the concert off. No, no, no. He's supposed to just sit there.
Starting point is 00:55:51 It was obvious because he panicked. Exactly. He panicked. He panicked. He was there like he was having a work meeting. He went under the cell phone running away to the Dallas. He should have stayed there.
Starting point is 00:56:01 He would have been a normal white guy with a normal white girl. If he would have stayed there, it would have been better than him trying to duck in the whole shit. He fucked his old shit up. My bastard I'm trying to say, Joe Tori got me.
Starting point is 00:56:13 He killed me. Rapid fire. Rapid fire. Everybody got to say that's out of state it. You got to handle this shit, sit down. You know, yeah, you fat fuck. Fuck your mother this. Joe Tori, you got you run.
Starting point is 00:56:26 You know, Jay, If you've run out of that shit Yeah, shit is even worse, you right? You're done! What happened? They said you had an encounterment with the dog backstage in L.A., BMX. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Oh, man. Yeah, this was back when, you know, comedy albums was a thing. So I went to the Jay-Z concert at the Staples Center and everybody in the back, you know, busts rhymes and Snoop. And I was trying to get people
Starting point is 00:56:52 to hold up the album and be like, yo, support my man. Didda-da-da. So I saw it. X, and I was like, yo, hey, he said, a dog, let me hold on you. And so I go into the liver, into the locker room, and there's one entrance
Starting point is 00:57:04 in, one entrance out. About 15 niggas came in there behind him, and then the security comes in, slams the door, stands in front of the door. And I'm like, hey, I was just wondering if you could do some join in my, dog, my voice. I don't know. I heard you. What I mean? My mom's voice. I don't let me hear it. If it's good, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:20 If it's not, uh, duh. And let me tell you something, man. I've been black my whole life. I grew up, you know, I didn't grow up in the projects, but I grew up poor. And that's how I knew where my level of blackness ended. This thing was talking to me,
Starting point is 00:57:38 and at one point he pulls the razor blade out from under his tongue. And that's the first time I saw that. And I'm like, how is this nigga talking? And I'm like, yeah, my niggum ends there. Yo, my niggum. I'm black up to a point. That was it. Let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:57:56 You're man, DMX. The stories I got about DMX, he probably got more. He was down with him. But, yo, DMX, man. He was the trip. He was the real, real trip. He did Mad TV.
Starting point is 00:58:10 He was the real deal. DMX, man. Yeah, I played his mother. We did a skit when he came off the road, and I'm in the green outfit with the gray hair and the glasses with the chain with Tim's on. And so he's like, yo, my, these bitches.
Starting point is 00:58:24 And I mean, they don't love me for me, Earl. What I mean? And I was like, your son, relax, we're going to talk about these holes. So it's just me and him going back and forth.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Like, yeah. I thought it was crazy story, right? It's going to lead to a question for me, right? This is crazy. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:58:41 It's an insane one, right? But it's the truth. It's uncapable, right? Who's unhappable? So I got a friend, right?
Starting point is 00:58:48 He passed away. We used to call him Joe Bentley because he owns so many Benetlings. And when we go to Miami, me, we used to have all these drop-top, Bentley. This guy had too many bentons, like an Italian dude too much, right? He died, you said?
Starting point is 00:59:04 He died, right? But I'm just telling you this story because I thought about it on the way here. I was like, who would be? But anyway, so this guy must have been the original capper, because you know, everything I say is true.
Starting point is 00:59:19 These people just ain't have an incredible life like you, so they can't they can't comprehend the shit I'd be saying, right? So this man was the bigger caper than me. So every time, he was so rich, but every time he would tell me stories, I'd be like, he was full of shit.
Starting point is 00:59:36 He told me he used to fuck, sit, share. One day he picks me up in my house in Miami, he pulls up to Star Island, share opens the door and the boostier and this thing, he pulls the ass, walks in. Shit, you can't believe, right? So the man tells me that when O.J. Simpson was in the
Starting point is 00:59:54 Bronco. He was in the airport with the private that O.J. Simpson is his man. Right? He was the one waiting for him, for him and AC Green to come on a private breakout. This guy did. He's telling me. Green. The out counts. But the point is, the man telling me all this shit.
Starting point is 01:00:14 The whole time, I know, Yo, Fendi, I know he's, I know he's my man, he's filthy wits. But the shit he was telling me, I could not believe. right? So one day it's his wife's birthday and he says, yo we're throwing his wife is named Nicole
Starting point is 01:00:31 Joe Bentley, his wife is named Nicole. So he says, yo, we're throwing her birthday party in my other house up and like where Trump lives, Palm Beach or some shit. We pull up. This shit got white horses or the guy had too much money. Right? I go with the terrorist squad.
Starting point is 01:00:50 It's me, Wemmy, Pistramid. This is why I got witnesses with this one. We go in there. O.J. Simpson is in the house. So Remy and Pistu start smoking blunts with them. They're having the best time
Starting point is 01:01:05 with O.J. Simpson. O.J. was smoking? Smoking blunts with Remy and Pistow. Right? Remi says she even got a picture of that. Right? So I go like... He's murdered two people. Smoking blunts is easy. You right.
Starting point is 01:01:19 You're absolutely. The moral to the story is when they came down to cut the cut. cake. Happy birthday Nicole. Joe Bentley puts the machete in OJ's hand. He said, you did it, nigga, you did it. And OJ started chasing him around the house
Starting point is 01:01:35 with the fucking knife. Somebody got, y'all got to get an animator and turn these stories. No, I'm telling it. No, no, shout out to Mr. Commodore. That's what he need. Mr. Camador just already start. You seen the shit he did? He did like when I robbed the gym.
Starting point is 01:01:49 He played it over. He's white faced with blonde hair, fat, out. He's doing the Charlie Murphy but listen to what I'm saying. OJ starts chasing him around the house with the knife. You say, you did it, man, you did it. The fucking, who would be
Starting point is 01:02:07 the OJ Simpson of 2025? If somebody killed their wife or something like that. Who would you? Who would be the OJ?J. Who would stop TV? What are he talking about? Who would stop TV? What is he talking about? If they were in the white Bronco chasing them, they might
Starting point is 01:02:25 allegedly kill their wife. In 2025, who's the celebrity? Any celebrity. Any... No. No. That's murder and fame? So you think any celebrity would have the TV going crazy? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:42 So you ain't got one pick. O.J. wasn't even a big celebrity when that shit happened. He just was O.J. My pick is Tiger Woods. Because you got a white girl. got to be a white girl, right, to make this shit go crazy.
Starting point is 01:02:58 And the white people... Where did this come from? I thought he had a question for you. I do. Here's the question. The question is, I was setting them up. Who's the OJ of this? Who's up?
Starting point is 01:03:09 2025 as a celebrity did some... Allegedly did some shit like that. Who would every channel turn on to? Anybody that killed too... But when you say that element, now you talk about the white girl, Is it has, does it have to be that element?
Starting point is 01:03:25 No, I'm just thinking about how crazy it can get. Will Smith. From Slap to Murder. Will Smith running is crazy. Oh, you can. Oh, no, you might be tired. And Jazzy Jeff is driving. Jazzy Jeff is.
Starting point is 01:03:43 And he got the all-scored. You see where I'm at. He's DJing while he's driving. And as he's driving, it's in West Philadelphia, born and raised. Oh. because I'm thinking Tiger Boys got the white wife he's golf
Starting point is 01:03:57 the white people watch golfing because the white people love OJ that's what made it so crazy right but it's 2025 black men murdering white women don't have the same cachet yeah
Starting point is 01:04:09 yo the views of this ain't yo this is out of control let me tell you one of the funniest stories I ever heard this thing is flirting with the legend the Mike Tyson of Eve at the awards
Starting point is 01:04:23 and you was like yo you gotta take the bass out of the voice chill Mike chat that shit I told him what's that story
Starting point is 01:04:31 I don't know that story well one day Mike was talking crazy to Eve like what crazy out of this world rate like
Starting point is 01:04:41 picture out eat your kids and I'll fucking your ass not like that not like that man no he was saying that Mike and Randy
Starting point is 01:04:50 he was saying that crazy shit to him She must have looked in like a steak Instead of, you know, when you see something You thought he was going to fuck you up? Listen to the story. You know when you see something And you say something in your mind
Starting point is 01:05:03 He was doing that But it wasn't in his mind. He was just whatever he was thinking, he was saying it. And me, Stals and Luch is like, Somebody got to be the crash dummy And we got a hawk, Somebody got to get their whole face.
Starting point is 01:05:21 And then we're going to halt them out of that. Sean Don. We did 20 first fingers about 20 million times. Nobody wanted to take the first game. But Mike was telling that that crazy shit. I want to tell you, I want to, he was saying that crazy shit to it. And we like, you know, he did that to Remy. But we was in his house.
Starting point is 01:05:41 That's after she shot the girl before. That's before she allegedly shot the girl. After the time, we went to his house. He opened the door, ass naked. Grand jury. She can't. You open the door, ass naked. I was like your mic.
Starting point is 01:05:55 No, no, I see your mic. You're all right. You're doing that. Yo, you got to have heart to tell Mike Jason, like, yo, my man, throw the towel on, man. And I'm with some allegedly... You got his house, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:08 I'm with some alleged... He was like, yo, Joe, you know, this is the boxes. You know, my man, you got to stop. Then we go inside, and the type of things he was telling Remby, Ma, I felt pussy if I didn't like address it
Starting point is 01:06:26 like I had to be like yo Mike Oh that might have to be around the same time Mike saw some horny demon shit He was losing his fucking mind Just barking out Yo
Starting point is 01:06:35 I'm Mike is crazy He was like yo Joe You know He showed me a brand new bends It was like a five hundred Some brand new shit Never drove He was like
Starting point is 01:06:45 You just leave her here You got the bends You know The shit was crazy. Like, I was like, yo, my man. Who just leave her head? Yeah, like, Terry.
Starting point is 01:06:58 She was looking at me. Remy's eyes looked at me, her eyes open so big. She was like, nigga, you better not leave me in this fucking place. I think her brother was with us, too. Everybody was looking like, yo, like, we're going to have to, like,
Starting point is 01:07:15 pound Mike Tyson out. We have no pause, no choice. We're going to have to, like, it's nothing we can do like he was like yo showed us the brand new Ben shit was like 150 200
Starting point is 01:07:26 nobody even had that shit right then we should still have the sticker we was like nah she got to go with us Mike she can't no that shit was crazy oh it takes a lot of courage
Starting point is 01:07:39 it's almost like a guy at the movies with his girl and they rap it to his girl and they disrespect his girlfriend is they tend deep you know you're gonna get your ass with a lot of these guys are cowards They won't defend their wife or their girl or shit like that.
Starting point is 01:07:52 But the guy that does, he gets the beats. Well, sometimes the girls are the reason why they get in the situations. Because she get mouthy and start doing a whole bunch of extra shit. Did you beat that? Let me tell you something. My wife used to force me. This is when we used to have 100 gods. You're a real nigger.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Take me to the club tonight by yourself. You don't need the crew. this, this, that. I go to the club. I see the guys we beat up the night before 100 D. And I'm like, there you go. You got it.
Starting point is 01:08:27 This is the shit you wanted. Remember I told you about the shit happened yesterday? That's dumb. A hundred D. You want it? Your man's the realist. There you go.
Starting point is 01:08:38 You got it, Baba. No problem. This, this, that. Then we always got away from that. But, you know, she used to test me like that. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, you got to come up in there by yourself, this, this, that.
Starting point is 01:08:49 You know, yeah, the women could definitely talk. You went to some shit. What's so with your podcast? It's called Spears and Steinberg. Available on all streaming platforms. You got a Jewish guy with you on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Playing the games. Money, money. Check out the YouTube channel, Spearsberg, pod, hit like and subscribe. And I always tell people, look, we like 679 episodes in. But start from the beginning Because when you
Starting point is 01:09:20 It's like, you know You get a chance to hear the jokes The evolution of the characters I do You know, callbacks And it's like Mastipation and Potato Chips Once you start, you won't stop Binge
Starting point is 01:09:33 Yeah You know what I mean Just binge man You know what I hear It's making big money with this shit Is the country Wayne They said on Facebook He got a choke hole over there
Starting point is 01:09:46 Remember I called you that time? Dover's issue, she does my social media. And I called and I was like, yo, I heard that dude is clearing checks over there in Facebook. Yeah, I mean, you know, this, if you know how to finagle this shit, there's money in it. So I'm kind of just on the cusp of figuring that out, you know?
Starting point is 01:10:07 When you get it, though, that shit is a p-pun. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. And also slide into my DMs and Instagram, and I'll chop it up with you and send you the links, Spears and Steinberg. I like that. And you're on tour right now, too, right? Yeah, all year round.
Starting point is 01:10:21 I hardly ever get a break. Me too, man. What about, you work a lot, too. Like, I find myself not being able to truly enjoy my peace. Because I'm always thinking about,
Starting point is 01:10:39 all right, Thursday, we're out to Vegas. Then Saturday, we in Canada. Like, how do you do is the same way through your week or you don't care? You just go. That shit's on your mind. You got to,
Starting point is 01:10:50 it's constantly thinking about it. You can't really just chill, huh? I've read some shit today that say you're going to make time for yourself. We're going to make, got to make some time. But wherever you go, sometimes is it like,
Starting point is 01:11:01 because for me, it's like sometimes if I go, if I'm going to Miami, I'm going to Vegas, New York, that's like a vacation. But if I got to go to Mississippi, oh, straight word. Man, I just like niggas and read.
Starting point is 01:11:13 Yo, listen, man, I went to North Dakota last week. You've been to North Dakota. Yes. Pussy value go down in certain parts of the country. I don't even call Miami, Miami. I call it Me Mommy. Well, I got that on the counter. I'm going to Me Mommy, Florida, baby.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Me Mommy, Florida, baby. Them women out there dressed like they don't like their fathers. That's crazy. One thing in Miami is they're in shape. Yeah? They're in shape, and everybody works out over there, like everybody. So the minute you drive it down the street, it's like no other place. The minute you driving, you know, everybody got their workout clothes on.
Starting point is 01:12:00 The dude just cocked these who they running around. Like, you know, Miami is definitely all about their appearance and stuff like that. So, you know, my mommy. I'm a song to be my baby American history is full of wise people What women said something like 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is gory.
Starting point is 01:12:31 Those founding fathers were gossipy A.F and they love to cut each other down. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline. the show where you send us your questions about American history, and I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer. Hamilton pauses, and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar. And Jefferson writes in his diary,
Starting point is 01:12:57 this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption. My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said. It would have been harder to fake it than to do it. Listen to American History Hotline on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, guys? Welcome to Agusto Papa, the go-to spot for everything Musica Mexicana. We're proud Mexican-Americans who live and breathe this music. We started this podcast to share and discuss our views on Musica Mexicana. Whether you like Pezzo Pluma, Los Alaires del Barranco, Ariel Camacho, or Ivan Cornejo, when you gain your fields,
Starting point is 01:13:38 and this podcast is for you. We deep dive into music reviews. Pesso Bluma show last year, everything was a 10 out of 10. Fashion and lifestyle inspired by the roots of music Mexicana, the craziest controversies and chismes. I don't have nothing against Fuerza, I know, and I don't think JOP should be mad at me.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Song and artist comparisons, competition in the scene. There is competition, there is sides to this. There's Pesop Pluma, Double Pee, and there's JOPP, and there's JOPP. Street Mob. I think at the end of the day, it's business, it's all competition.
Starting point is 01:14:06 And of course, are personal stories and opinions along the way. This isn't just a podcast. It's a movement for fans who live Musica Mexicana every single day. Listen to Augusto Papa as part of the My Cultura podcast network on the IHeart Radio app,
Starting point is 01:14:19 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. We all know, right? Genius is evenly distributed. Opportunity is not. It's Black Business Month and Black Tech Green Money is tapping in. I'm Will Lucas spotlighting Black founders, investors and innovators,
Starting point is 01:14:36 building the future, one idea at a time. Let's talk legacy, tech, and generational wealth. I don't think any person of any gender, race, ethnicity should alter who they are, especially on an intellectual level or a talent level, to make someone else feel comfortable just because they are the majority in this situation and they need employment. So for me, I'm always going to be honest in saying that we need to be unapologetically ourselves. If that makes me a vocal CEO and people consider that rocking the boat, so be it. To hear this and more on the power of black innovation and ownership,
Starting point is 01:15:09 listen to Black Tech Green Money from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Adventure should never come with a pause button. Remember the movie pass era where you could watch all the movies you wanted for just $9? It made zero cents and I could not stop thinking about it. I'm Bridget Todd, host of the tech podcast, there are no girls on the internet. On this new season, I'm talking to the innovators who are left out of the tech headlines, like the visionary behind a movie pass,
Starting point is 01:15:37 Black founder Stacey Spikes, who was pushed out of movie pass the company that he founded. His story is wild that it's currently the subject of a juicy new HBO documentary. We dive into how culture connects us. When you go to France,
Starting point is 01:15:52 or you go to England, or you go to Hong Kong, those kids are wearing Jordans, they're wearing Kobe's shirt, they're watching Black Panther. And the challenges of being a black founder. close your eyes and tell me what a tech founder looks like. They're not going to describe someone who looks like me
Starting point is 01:16:09 and they're not going to describe someone who looks like you. I created There Are No Girls on the Internet because the future belongs to all of us. So listen to There Are No Girls on the Internet on the IHurt Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm going to ask you one last question. When's the one time you stepped in shit?
Starting point is 01:16:27 You just said, holy shit. Comedically? Oh, that's easy. we ended the first that deaf comedy jam tour at the Garden and at that time before the clip that I did eventually that went viral
Starting point is 01:16:42 14 million I was at a radio station in San Francisco and I did So went viral back then? No, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about later after this moment
Starting point is 01:16:51 and I did a Jay-Z, DMX, Snoop rapping and it went viral but before this at the Garden I didn't write it down I just thought I'm gonna wing it. And I'm going to just go off the head. And this is why you go, you have to have respect for what you do. I bomb so horrifically.
Starting point is 01:17:10 And as I'm walking past Kid Capri's table, two dudes are standing over there at the DJ booth. And one of them goes, I don't know if they said it on purpose so I could hear it, but just the timing. He was like, man, that man, that man, that was garbage. And I had to walk back from the garden to the hotel Sheridan on 57. I felt like Will Smith and I am legend. there was no cause
Starting point is 01:17:33 no people it was just lonely it was me by myself it was the loneliest walk it was like change gone come so that's what I went you know what dude
Starting point is 01:17:41 you gotta respect this shit so I smoked the blunt and I wrote and I just I wrote the lyrics out and cut to that's when I did it at the radio station
Starting point is 01:17:50 and it went viral I'm fine yeah you know what he just reminded me this podcast there's certain guys you can't really
Starting point is 01:17:58 big up like that right so there's some people I big up and they try to diss me. Like, Kit Capri, I call him one of my top five. It wasn't good enough. He's on his Instagram.
Starting point is 01:18:07 We got to discuss this. This, this, this. I've seen him at Ray DeJon's funeral. I say, yo, kid, I can't even big you up. Like, I can't even big you out. I call you the number one on my top five, and you still got a problem with it. You on your Instagram, like, yo, we got to talk about it.
Starting point is 01:18:24 I'm like, you don't care. I can't be. It's certain guys I'm realizing on this podcast that you can't even big them up. because somehow that turns into how are we going to turn this into some other shit? Right. I mean...
Starting point is 01:18:37 I got to act because now it just hit me, I got to ask your question. So when most people go, there's dudes that do battle rap, like loaded lucks and murder moot. For some reason, a lot of battle rappers
Starting point is 01:18:50 can't make successful albums. And then I'm going, and they also go, well, a lot of guys that are successful in making albums can't battle rap. And I go, when you think about a guy
Starting point is 01:19:00 like, one of the hardest emcees ever if you had to battle rap like you know I can't do this for real I think you could though
Starting point is 01:19:09 I could but I can't they they possess a special thing with that that's what that's they and I mean not in fact I might could and they might be able to make
Starting point is 01:19:20 classic albums it just once the people start saying yo you know the battle rap leagues can't make good albums or you know the regular thing is can't be bad I may be can't if you push me to the left.
Starting point is 01:19:32 Or the bag was out of, because they never say who win, whoever you just, the win or the loser is up to the individual's ears. Like, they never just put a thing up, airy, 50 rounds, kiss three, right?
Starting point is 01:19:49 It's just, if you was there or you watch the link, you come outside, your man might think you won, other man might think I won. So if the bag is right, There's no... What you got to do is win a good round in a half.
Starting point is 01:20:03 I think that was... You get a round and a half, you're up. You could be... How many rounds? Is it three? But is it... It's really a order that shit. They can keep starting over
Starting point is 01:20:15 and know how to come back with the... I don't... That should take a lot of practice. I would have to go to the... I would have to go in the camp. See, from the outside, looking in and just... As a fan, you just go... You know I could do it.
Starting point is 01:20:27 I probably could, but I ain't going... as you step out there and stay up. And then my question to you, Joe, is... I want to help answer that, too. Okay, but let me ask you this. I would think, like, if there's so much potential money in, what if they were to set up, like, a pay-per-view and go, we would love to see Eminem versus Jada,
Starting point is 01:20:48 fabulous verse, another MC, like, and that never happens, really, except with the versus thing that just happened because of COVID. The thing I'm trying to tell you is to be, careful with 50 cent in them. You know, is... I didn't get like the... No.
Starting point is 01:21:04 I'm just trying to tell you... Where did we... Because... Are you here? This hip-hop thing, right? It's good... Well, the guys to get the most respect,
Starting point is 01:21:17 they have unscathed... Resimates. So nobody ever raw fat Joe. Nobody ever beat Fat Joe up. Nobody... All the guys I ever beefed with, they never got one. up right 50's part of that frame of thought where no one gets one up on him right so you got to
Starting point is 01:21:39 understand these guys got these type of like egos where they're not trying to take no type of hell so with the battle rap ain't no professional rapper like a perfect you might find a frajo star you might find one of them you ain't going to find a top tier rapper trying to battle for any amount of money Jada against Eminem, this, this, they're not doing that shit because nobody wants that blemish on their record. You know, and it's the same way
Starting point is 01:22:08 streetwise with rappers. Once you catch that L and you're on video, look, they, look, they were terrified at this night till they seen them get beat up one time and they had them on film. After that, they was trying to rush them
Starting point is 01:22:21 everywhere he went. Arizona, these people were so terrified at. So once they see you catch that L somewhere, whether it's battlewap or whatever the case may be, good luck walking around the same way you walk around. Now, let me go back to that original question. The truth is, there's a lot of artists out there that don't know how to make a hit record. Don't ask me why.
Starting point is 01:22:51 There's a lot of artists out there that don't know how to make a hit hook. Don't ask me why. there's a lot of artists out there that don't know how to change their flows there's a lot of artists out there that's considered the greatest lyricists of wartime that never could pick a good beat don't know why
Starting point is 01:23:09 it's like when you come to comedy they gotta be like a chamber does he rock the crowd or does he say funny shit on the spot does he have premeditated shit there's a there's a criteria for some reason everybody's not born with that chamber where every single chamber.
Starting point is 01:23:29 And I watch the, I mean, the greatest, you know, if you want me to say a name, which is not right, but there's been some of the greatest guys that we consider the greatest rappers of all time that didn't know how to pick a beat or didn't know how to really make a hit. And so some of them hid under the cloth of, I'm underground.
Starting point is 01:23:55 You know, I'm underground. I don't really want to make a hit. You know, I don't really want that kind of success. I don't, I don't this. But at the end of the day, I think rappers, like I started out underground, digging in the crates. I think it shows growth if you're able to make a song like, Who Shot You And then do a What's Love?
Starting point is 01:24:15 You know what I mean? And me, I used to tell all my crew digging in the crates, I used to tell them all, y'all, I came in here to be a superstar. I did not come in here to just be underground. Not pointing them out in any way, but just saying there's artists that just can't do everything. And there's some artists
Starting point is 01:24:32 that haven't had the luck. Like you, you're beyond talented. Everybody knows you're beyond talented. You just ain't have no Adam Sandler in your corner. You just ain't have no, like, like, you know, you ain't has somebody with that type of power to say, this is the guy. You know, so you, similar to us,
Starting point is 01:24:54 You got to fight your way to where you got your spot. We're still fighting. One of the greatest lyrics from you that I loved at that time when you said, what's everybody so mad at the South Pole? Switch up your style,
Starting point is 01:25:10 switch to Southball. I was thinking about that today. That was me. And he borrowed me. I was listening. That was my original. That's my love. Google.
Starting point is 01:25:26 Yo, Jay. Jada. Go to Charlie. We'll be right back after this commercial break. Hold on. It's my line. I'm following everybody so mad at the South Pole.
Starting point is 01:25:35 Learn how to switch your style up and go South Pole. Yo, Jay. You gave me to say it, but you open your mouth for. Better reason for me to just open your scout more. Ooh. Man, that's me. Let's not get this.
Starting point is 01:25:48 I mean, we ain't got all times. No, no, no, no. But I gave you that. I gave you that shout-up. No, yeah. On a super smash shit bracket. But it's Bridgett who came from Thuggett out. Then he threw it on, making it.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Once again, the crossover. Let me explain it to you. Right. The point I was making, right, is at that time, everybody bought. No, I didn't, I'm just making sure he got to know where it came from. Then he might have set me up with that shit. No, I swear to God, no, I swear to God, I swear to God.
Starting point is 01:26:23 You were the only person that I heard say that. Well, his shit was a little underground. Yeah, his song was it. My shit was smashed. No, but I still gave him the prize, Sheda. I was listening. I don't care. I'm like, but it being the biggest song, I just don't,
Starting point is 01:26:39 you're not going to deprive me of being a part of it. That's all. But I did big, I did. I love you. That's a big record, make your brain. But let me explain to you, right? I traveled around the whole country. I did this thing.
Starting point is 01:26:57 I think it was for Bud Light. And in every city, the star of the city basketball player would come out. Right? So if it was Memphis, it was Zach Randolph at the time. If it was Philly AI,
Starting point is 01:27:13 and we would host every one. What I noticed that the whole entire country from the east to the Midwest to the west to the south were only playing down south music in the club one time
Starting point is 01:27:30 New York created hip hop that was no longer that we was not running the game the west took it we wasn't running it south took over the game to the point of I got to be deaf dumb and blind to be sitting in the hottest club with the hottest ball playing not to notice
Starting point is 01:27:48 this shit unchanged on us you can't come with the boom back and think you're going to pop one off. It just wasn't working at that time. The DJ got to spin with fluidity the same shit that's rocking. So the DJ playing nothing
Starting point is 01:28:03 but the down south shit. So I'm in Memphis and the guy goes and says, let's throw it back. He throws on the rock buildings in the building the night. Oh, the problem with that was that was actually number one at that time. He said, the throwback.
Starting point is 01:28:20 The throwback of the day. Rock building in the building tonight is because they're so used to hearing nothing but the dirty South winning all day that even though that record was the hottest shit out, they called it the throwback. Same with New York. New York was really, really cocky.
Starting point is 01:28:38 I remember there was a time when New York, you listen to Hot 97, and they'd be like, yo, what's playing outside of the five boroughs? And they'd be like, these are my confessions. They had that shit in the church. to where they wasn't playing that. So according to the line, why are you mad at the city?
Starting point is 01:28:59 You got to switch to Southport. You know how many New York rappers was? Which thing is it? He did. No, no. Because at first, they get mad at you. You figure it out. They get upset.
Starting point is 01:29:10 You know, he's getting to the bag. The nigga made it down south here. That's what's ringing right now. So all my New York colleagues, furious. I'm reading the Sauce magazine. Oh, how could he rhyme on? something like this, this next thing I know
Starting point is 01:29:24 everybody's everybody's the 808 rocking like this but they was dumb mad at me when I first did make it rain. They were like yo how you can rap on that and then everybody is just a new norm then New York starts sounding like the dirty south to be honest with you if you're going to keep
Starting point is 01:29:40 it a buck because they were like yo we got to make one of these so in other words being that he was the originator it's like you Elvis Presley did but he was Big Mama Thornton I guess so I big the bar
Starting point is 01:29:54 You know who Big Mama threw in? No She wrote Nothing but a hounder Black woman And then Elvis took it I tell you did to it You know
Starting point is 01:30:04 But no She's the real But he spit a bar He didn't write my song Brother He cleared He spit a bar You know
Starting point is 01:30:15 And that shit went You know Baking Rain one of them Classicals Don't get it fucked up. This is crack. It is the first line
Starting point is 01:30:26 of the first verse, though. You know, you here, this is not a motherfucker. Jada kid. Jada kids. I'm going to hire a comedian behind the scenes. I might hire you. Give me some Jada kids' jokes.
Starting point is 01:30:37 This guy. Oh, shit. You tried and you lost. I thought we were bought in this. You tried. 48 hours. You tried. You was unsuccessful.
Starting point is 01:30:46 You tried. You talked about how black and shit is. No, no. You got the baseball. That was. That was a draw. That was a draw. That was one and one.
Starting point is 01:30:56 I don't know, but that was off the top. Nigel, I would never ask you for directions. I asked you to get to the Bronx. You send me to Kentucky. The way you're all over the place, man. No, he said a fraud, but let me tell you something. He hit you with that shit right back. I said too shay.
Starting point is 01:31:14 Man. He gave me my father. I thought that was a great one. Dude, sometimes when you speak in your regular voice, especially if I've been smoking a lot and drinking. I get a little raspy. I've been working on it. You know,
Starting point is 01:31:27 let's get it, baby. Congratulations, only 1.1 million in a short week. So I'm working on it. I'm working on it. Let me see if my, hold up. And I ain't animated like, say, a bust the rhyme. The real shit you get when you break down my line.
Starting point is 01:31:44 Head that to the fact I'm playing a bunch of time. Tom Zappa mindfulness on pot coach. I'm supposed to be number one on everybody. I love you, Tony Soprano. I used you on the intro to the album. The fucking course you did. You know the fucking Dale. All the guys are the fucking Italians. You know what it is? I've seen you with the fucking Eurostep. You're pretty good. Yo, this is Joe Crack.
Starting point is 01:32:14 Jaded Kiss. Another episode of the Joe and Jeter show makes some noise for our brother Airy Spears. That was beautiful. Appreciate it. I'm Jake Hofer, and this is Back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode, I'll be asking eight white-tail hunting pros, a focused, thought-provoking question about hunting and land management.
Starting point is 01:32:47 How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access? Should you, that's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand. Listen to Back 40 on IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace. You discover the depths of your mother's illness. I'm Danny Shapiro.
Starting point is 01:33:12 And these are just a few of the powerful stories I'll be mining on our upcoming 12th season of family secrets. We continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dr. Joy Hardin-Brandford, host of the Therapy for Black Girls podcast. I know how overwhelming it can feel if flying makes you anxious. In session 418 of the Therapy for Black Girls podcast, Dr. Angela Neal-Barnett and I discuss flight anxiety. What is not a norm is to allow it to prevent you from doing the things that you want to do, the things that you were meant to do. Listen to therapy for black girls on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 01:34:04 Every case that is a cold case that has DNA. Right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime. On the new podcast, America's Crime Lab, every case has a story to tell. And the DNA holds the truth. He never thought he was going to get caught. And I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha. This technology is already solving so many cases.
Starting point is 01:34:27 Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.