Joe and Jada - BEST OF Fat Joe & Jadakiss 2025: Clipse, Cardi B, 85 South, Nelly & Ashanti, Aries Spears & MORE
Episode Date: December 25, 2025YO YO YOOO! It's been a legendary first year of the Joe and Jada podcast, and this Christmas we're looking back at some of 2025's classic moments from Fat Joe and Jadakiss, along with their always leg...endary, always iconic guests including Clipse's Pusha T and Malice, Cardi B, 85 South, Aries Spears, Allen Iverson, Common, Ne-Yo, and many more! 2:30 - "I miss my Uncle Georgia" 6:00 - Ne-Yo explains his 4-girlfriend situation 12:30 - Cardi B reacts to Ne-Yo's 4-girlfriend situation 17:00 - Clipse on the making of 'Let God Sort Em Out' 32:00 - 85 South can't believe Jada is bald by choice 37:00 - Joe & Jada tell wild Big Pun & DMX stories 43:00 - Allen Iverson's mother joins the couch 48:00 - Nelly & Ashanti's 50 Cent story 1:01:00 - Common confirms Fat Joe saved his life 1:08:00 - Fat Joe's legendary jail stories 1:25:00 - Joe & Jada on being in the studio with Biggie & Jay-Z 1:37:00 - Lil Wayne bodied EVERYONE on "We Takin' Over" 1:42:00 - Aries Spears reacts to Joe's crazy OJ Simpson story 1:51:00 - Jada tells Yayo & Murda about Biggie's '97 L.A. trip 2:00:00 - Joe & Jada's top 5 hip hop songs 2:15:00 - N.O.R.E. on his tense conversation with Pusha T 2:22:00 - Jermaine Dupri on writing "Confessions" for Usher 2:28:00 - Fat Joe isn't capping about the smallest man in the world [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hong Kong's Mongolian.
He's walking through.
What's up, boss?
They're looking like we made him a steak.
We didn't recruit this thing.
He's the Hong Kong.
He was like Shadoo.
They let them go.
They let them go.
Boy, Biggie Smalls to this day, his flows, his cadence.
You know I help get the song together with him and Bone Thugs in harmony.
That's another album.
Look up the first.
Bone Thugs in Harmony first album sold 30 million records.
He's 1999.
For the love of money, got to get that money, baby, money, baby.
Gotta get that money, baby.
Let me tell you some, boy, I miss my Uncle Georgia.
Call them George.
Miss my Uncle Georgia.
It's Uncle Charles.
It's Uncle Charles.
He's called him Uncle George.
I miss my uncle George.
You know, at least, yo.
Uncle George.
You know, yo, listen.
You know how you go to the AA meeting and be like,
hi, I'm Joe.
I'm an alcoholic.
He's like, hi, I'm fat Joe.
I'm a fuck up.
I'm a bug out.
I change all the words.
That's why we go.
going to have a problem, Rich.
We put it back, Rich, do it back to it.
I can't even memorize my own rhymes.
So imagine memorizing your rhymes
or somebody else's when I fuck everybody's shit up.
But I got that bone and Biggie done.
Biggie hit me up.
Said, Joe, I want to rock with your men's.
I know they're your man's.
We're on the same label.
I'm hanging out with them every day.
Then he had a relationship with Bob.
I had to really, really convince them.
and I know to this day
they're happy I convinced them
and Steve Lobel brought them to the studio
the rest is history
with that boning biggie, bigie
and nobody in New York
was thinking about
I'm in dangerous
ain't too many can bang with us
sing up we know angel dust
notorious and so called
beef with you know who this
nobody was thinking
about that flow at that
time when he did it
it was like, you know,
big with somebody that
it's like you.
I mean, damn, man,
we got to big this thing
I'm right over here.
And we're asking
salute them, man.
Biggie was like you
in the very way of
you never said a whack verse.
So every time
Biggie could rhyme on
112,
he could rhyme on
fucking a girl's
TLC shit,
whatever.
It's a commercial.
It ain't,
anything that we would listen to him.
We would listen.
to the new verse and be like, damn,
Biggie did it again. He was super nice.
He did this and this and that.
It was crazy. You know what I'm saying?
B.I.G. That ready to die, that shit
to this day is one of my favorite
you know what I mean? From the slave
shit's for the same life
in the two vault.
Yo, Biggie, I have my homie's
total busher shit. Every
record. It wasn't just total.
I don't know if it was a fan,
but as a rapper,
every verse similar to you
every verse Biggie
ever spit
we would analyze it immediately
and be like yo he did a song with total
you know everything
you'd be like damn
you body that shit again
it's not easy to body
every single verse
you know JD kiss you know
he's really good at that
you know what I'm saying
we're listening for every verse like oh
shit,
Jane is going
spit that shit
right now.
Yo, Neal, I got to keep it real with you
right because
lately being that we're
podcasters now
is crazy because
all the artists, not you,
but all the artists seem to
come in here and don't want to talk
about what everybody want to hear them
talk about out there.
You got four wives.
Yes, indeed.
What kind of pressure
Do you buy, is it like Muslim?
Do you got to buy the same bag for the same girl?
Like, you know what?
Mine is mine.
You definitely got to have a bag to have four wives.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, yeah, well, okay, it's, there's a mindset that the woman has to have
in order to be able to share men, you know what I'm saying?
Like, it's literally got to, she literally got to think a different way.
If you got four women that want burking bags, you got the wrong four.
So they got a different mentality.
It's community, it's family.
It's like everybody doing something.
It's like a village where everybody do something.
Everybody got a job.
You know what I mean?
If you're the only person taking care of everything you're doing them,
that's not how I'm supposed to go.
Everybody's supposed to kind of pitch in together.
Like, I have seven kids on my own.
You know, one of them got a daughter,
a little got two kids.
And it's like, okay, so I don't have seven kids.
I got nine kids.
And that's fine because we all come together like,
This one's washing dishes.
This one's changing diapers if you need be.
This one's doing that.
Everybody does.
You did it's a traditional way.
Yeah.
Right.
I got to ask.
Did you have to do, how'd you, how'd you, did you have to do an interview?
How the hell did you know?
How did you do this?
What you're on tour, just like, all right, she could be part of the family.
She could be like, how did you do it?
How did you do it four times?
So, okay, so after my, after my divorce.
You know, my very public, very ugly divorce,
I realized that just through being dishonest,
I heard a lot of people.
I heard a lot of people.
And I decided at that moment,
I don't never want to be the reason
nobody felt like,
so from that moment I was like,
I'm going to just keep it a buck
with everybody about everything,
be a good, bad, ugly, whatever.
I'm going to keep it a buck.
I don't ask me if the dress make you look fat,
if you don't really want to hear the answer
because I'm going to tell you straight up, right?
So one of the ones that we've been around
a little longer than the other ones.
So I basically just sat down like, listen,
you know I rocked what you.
We've been rocking for forever.
Through this, through that, we've been rocking.
I love you.
I do.
But it ain't just you.
I'll also rock with this one and this one.
So a man could love more than one woman.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I just want him to say,
Yo, Tate, I'm throwing you out this motherfucker.
Yo, Jayne, let him ask you the fucking question.
I didn't say nothing.
You ain't got for a while.
You ain't got for a while.
You ain't asked a question.
I've never seen somebody interrupt and didn't tell you to be quiet.
Because you're like, you can love more than, you can love more than one woman.
You can not say.
Marry men won't say that.
This is this shit men won't say.
They can't.
But you got four, so that's how it goes.
What do we call that in America?
It's polygamy.
Real shit.
It's polyamory if you're not married.
It's polygamy if you're married.
And polygamy is illegal in a lot of America.
So it's polygamy.
Polygamy.
Yeah.
And so, you know, I woke up one day
And a lot of bark and a lot of pink horse power
In the cabinet over there
Listen, first of all me
Fucking rock a boon
I'm abused
I'm abused like I'm lyrically abused
Some of my friends come to the house
They fucking, they're going like candles for me
Like I'm sitting there like Al Bundy
Like I'm like
Watch the TV
It's very hard to get me upset
But for them doing that shit at the same time
But see, you don't happen like that.
It don't happen like that.
Because I'm very, very, very adamant about drawing the line in the sand.
It's like, listen, I'm going to let you say what it is you need to say.
But once we start going here, you lost me anyway.
So you might as well not.
When I was thinking about asking you his question, I'm thinking, so what you got?
Like a giant bed, like a big fucking jab and the big start.
Alaska.
Alaska.
Alaska King is like, I need that.
Y'all asking King is like to book me in the Alaskin King.
Book me.
Double kings together.
Promoters.
Double king?
Promoters.
I only think I heard of California and something else.
I heard it.
I never heard of Alaska.
I never heard of no shit like that.
Fat Joe,
Fadjo deserve an Alaskan king.
No fat Joe deserves an Alaskin king.
I can shoot you a number.
I can't get two more people in it.
Because, mind, you can't buy in Alaska King.
You got to get it made.
You got to get somebody to make it.
They got to come there and build it.
They got to build it.
They got to build it.
So it's like a giant bed.
Yes.
Yo.
What?
It's about it.
Come to my.
Yo.
Yo!
You're an inspiration, Neil.
I like it.
I like that.
We're going to live vicariously through you.
That's it.
And I hopes out.
Everything is good, man.
Everything is good.
Again, we have problems just like, just like monogamous relationship, all that shit is real.
You're going to argue over stuff.
But, again, again,
at the end of the day,
as long as you are a head of household
and everybody understands that,
then arguments don't last on.
Like, you know, again, I'm going to let you get it out,
and let you say what you got to say, I'm going to hear you.
But once it's done, it's done.
And we're not good.
We're not going to be.
You think a broke man can have four women
in the lasting, uh,
if you do it the right way.
Because again, it's not, it's not, it's not,
so listen, all women ain't going,
it's not going to work.
They're not rocking with that.
It has to be a certain kind of woman.
She got to, she got to have a certain mindset
if she going to do it.
because if she's the kind of woman again
that she needs birthdays and all this.
What's your question?
I got two questions.
Go on, go on.
How far apart?
Because you know how you said you had one
that was with you for a while?
What was the...
Like age difference or?
No, no, no.
How quick did it take to get the other three on board?
It wasn't, it didn't take a long time.
It was taking a long time.
I kind of set up a dinner.
I told the one that I want you to meet,
I want you to meet the other ones.
Initially, it was just three.
So I told her one that I wanted her to meet the other two.
I set up the day.
Where the last one come from?
Uh, one of my, one of my dances.
She's the newest, yeah.
Yeah, she's one of my dancing.
Yeah, she's one of my dancing.
Please, I don't know to thank him because whenever I did this podcast without him yesterday,
and I went crazy.
And I was like, damn, where is my man when I need him to say, chill?
Relax, because he's the calm, he, he'll get canceled, honey.
Yes, he's like, chill, relax.
Yesterday, I'm up in their years.
So what he was like, yo, you know,
they came with five.
You know, I'm like, you know, I walk out of there
my own, the crazy guy, the Fayitos.
We call him the hugged one.
They walked out with me like, yo, God.
I should have told me, I only came.
This is going to be referee feet.
What you was doing yesterday?
We did a show yesterday.
We did a show yesterday.
And Neil?
It was great.
He's living his life, honey.
He got three holes.
Four of a four.
Four?
Four.
Guess what?
There's a such thing.
I asked him,
there's an Alaskin king bad, right?
What's the shit called?
Alaskin king, man.
It's the last king.
He got a...
He's got a couple of us.
He's sleek with four.
He's talking to her.
Listen, that man got to fit five people.
Him, four chicks in the fucking bag.
That's a different kind of bag.
But what makes you go from being married?
What makes you go from being married to having, like, four girlfriends?
Well, I'm going to tell you the answer.
Says, yeah, guys.
Oh, no, no, no, we not guys.
We don't got four wives.
I get you.
I can't answer.
I'm going to tell you what the man told me.
Okay, that's a good answer.
And it was a good answer.
He said, I was tired of hurting women.
I was tired of lying to-
cheating on them and stuff like that
to where I was like, fuck it.
I'm going to let y'all know.
I need four.
You're with it?
Telling the party, he said,
I'm just going to keep everything on it.
If the dress looks horrible,
Yeah, everything is going to be clean sleep.
He said he's not lying no more.
Yeah.
And he needs four.
You know, oh, you know.
I didn't got to put it in a lot of work, boys.
He's making it out way.
I don't think it's that easy.
I don't care why he say, uh, they ain't that easy.
Four women?
Yeah, how could it?
Bro, I got a daughter and a wife and I'm dizzy, bro.
What are you talking about?
Four women?
He makes it sound like it's easy.
That is not easy.
That should be like, psh, psh, psh, psh,
Like, Fritz play a single.
My brother Fritz playing me like,
yo, I pray for you.
He said, you're going to heaven.
How many do you?
You bust in a day.
That's a quarter of.
How many did you?
Imagine if all the other one doesn't want to get fucked that day.
He got to put it.
Could you, could you, out?
Are we going back?
And so then it's like, imagine if you.
Can he technically put in that work on a four clip?
What about the album?
I'm going to feel away.
Oh, so you're going to feel away.
Oh, so you're going to feel away.
Oh, that shit.
If you're dead flat
Like these women on set
With child
No
Because he's making it sound easy
And I know it's not easy
I know it's not easy
If you got four bitches right
You could buzz like twice a day
Polywood to
If it's four
And it's a hot
I want to get fucked
But you fuck this bitch
And now you can't enough for me
Not one of the bitches
It's tight
So you ain't telling me
It's not easy
You're not telling me it's easy.
That shit is not easy.
For real.
Dead ass.
Yo, but listen.
What I'm trying.
A bitchful certain type of way.
You was fuck this bitch in the morning.
Now you can't up for me in the afternoon.
And I need dig now.
But you can't fuck me because you fuck your bitch earlier.
That shit makes you want to argue.
That will get me tight.
So you as a female saying, don't go for that.
It's got to be turbulent.
It has to be turbulent.
What's the for me to do, man?
That's fine.
Cardi B. She's saying
some real shit. We want to know what
the women think. The women
want to know what we think.
We want to know what they think. We want to know what they think.
Would have been a good one.
She got requested for.
You got this guy crying.
She's killing me. He's like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
But that's real shit.
I didn't get into that, right?
Like that.
I know they be arguing.
I want to know.
Now I want to know.
But right before you,
I was about to release the album,
something happened with DevJam,
and I got up out of it.
Yeah.
Talk to how serious it is
to be able to do what you want to do
and ownership and the bullshit
and the politics of the business
that after being in something so long,
you still have to go through the bullshit.
The politics,
The politics and the business never stops.
I think that's the rule.
I think that's the biggest takeaway from us.
You know what I'm saying?
We ain't been out in 15 years.
And it's still the same thing.
Yeah, still the same thing.
For anybody with some type of business mind,
you can love rap.
Like, we love it, be passionate about it,
but it's something with the business side
that always discourages you
and make you just want to do other things sometimes.
Basically, we had the album, had the album, put the album together, so on and so forth.
And, you know, they got, we turned it in and we turned it in with the Kendrick verse.
And they didn't want to put it out.
They didn't want to put it out.
Basically, they didn't, what I feel like, they didn't like the optics while they were going through their lawsuit of, you know, clips, Kendrick together on a song, you know, coming out under UMG with,
the lawsuit they got going on, so on and so forth.
So, um, ended up having a, uh...
Basically, y'all got caught in the 2-11 triple
crossed that, nothing to do with it.
Basically, yeah, because it, you know,
it wasn't even on that type of time.
No, it happens all the time.
Yeah.
It still happens to me.
Let me finish, let him finish, man.
So, you know, just, you know, so, so,
and we ended up having a, uh,
by our way out of the situation.
Mm-hmm.
Um, it gets a little tricky because we had a one album deal.
The clips did.
And then, um, you know, I was signed there as well.
So you can't just, you know
The clips couldn't just leave
Without me, you know what I'm saying?
And so we had to figure it out
And here we are.
Rock Nation.
You were in the position to buy yourself.
Shout out the hole, man.
Yeah, definitely shout out the hole, man.
Rock Nation.
Rock Nation, for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah, man, you know, just whatever, man.
You know, we roll with the punches, bro.
Like, we hear.
That's what we do.
That's what we do.
That's what we do.
Yeah.
And always got the faith in the music, man.
The faith is always in the music.
Like, we always know that shit going to be right.
So that's, you know what I'm saying?
That's what we believe in.
Right.
Definitely.
You got a tour coming up, I think I've seen.
August, 3rd.
August, 3rd, man, September 10th.
25 dates of just back to back, man.
They sent me a tour bus the other day.
I'm like, whoa.
I was like, what?
When the last time you seen went up?
It's so good to live life
when you don't need the bus, right?
Like, man, yo.
Yo, we used to live on a bus.
Now it's like a bus.
The butt, they sent me the bus.
They sent there's two buses.
You got a sweet, you got a sweet.
And around with all these people.
I'm like, how do you know I wouldn't want to be around all these people?
Yeah, I turn down towards, man.
My knees ain't the same than my ankles.
Man, I'd be like, what?
Two months?
Keep that.
Like, you know, I don't think I could do it.
Like, I'm going to be fair with you.
you know, I work on the week
Right now I'm gone
Like I go every weekend
But to do the tour thing
Every day
Yeah
Bringing the noise every day
Every city
Yeah
I haven't done that in a long time
B
I don't know if I want that opportunity
I'm keeping it real
Amen
Well for us
You know
I guess with us
Just being away for so long
It's like
It's the highlight
To get back in front of the fans
You know what I'm saying
So we'll sacrifice
that.
No, no, they're waiting for you, too.
You know, now, too.
I love it.
Yeah.
I'm opposed to the way.
He's, I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
I love to get tired of it.
Listen, I go see kids every time he in awful, man.
You also do pull-ups with one finger, bro.
I ain't that.
You're not built like.
I'm just trying to live, man.
In this time and there is a lot of young dudes that look older than everybody on
his couch.
Yeah.
From the never they put in the body.
We also got to understand.
whether we all don't want to take the role model stance, but we are.
And so, you know, guys prior to us, you know, they fucked up with drugs and all type of shit like that.
And it was really hard.
We've always loved them for the integrity of the music and what they play for the game.
But these young kids, they're looking at us.
There's a young kid right now popping 25 or something who's probably looking at this shit.
Like, yo, my OGs look good.
That means I can look right, I could be right in the future, I could do right,
and that's a moral obligation that we don't accept, but we really do accept.
Yeah, right, you know, and I can see that and don't.
We do, we're pushing forward the right way so the young brothers and sisters see us
and know they can get to the promised land.
I got a five-year-old too, man, so I got to be.
Yeah, you got to be a shake to chase.
He gets to get loose from you in the park.
Yeah.
And you can't breathe.
You can get out of there on you, you love me.
Got to chase him.
Yeah, man.
How are you feeling about that album?
What's the, I see you had an event.
You had to play for the DJs, play a couple sessions.
I love it.
I did go.
I was the reception.
Like Puscher said, man, the faith is in the music.
You know what I'm saying?
It's what we believe in.
Once we deliver exactly what it is we want to do when it's,
sounds the way exactly the way we want it to sound you know we don't think about nothing else we
delivered our part and and release it and just you know see the acceptance however it comes yeah
it's gonna be the biggest part of a fan like with me um a biggest part of a fan is like yo
what the clips are thinking in 2025 like what they're talking about 2025 you know something
well i don't know if you know but something you get
criticized for
is talking
that heavy weight
yeah
2025 right
yeah I got guys to be like
your man be talking
I'd be like yo I love this shit
let me let me
let me chime in on that
the beautiful thing of
coming from where we come from
and talking the talk we talk
is the challenge is
how could he say
what he want to say now
after having success
having money
maybe, you know, getting married.
I being a family man, still active, still doing this thing.
And when you're nice, that's the only challenge.
Everybody that keeps saying, he's saying the same thing, they ain't even fucking listening, right?
And they just need something to say because they got the keyboard.
And not only that, what is everybody else saying?
Yeah.
What is everybody else saying?
I agree with you one million percent.
I just came off a vacation saying that you'll pay.
I was writing on the plane.
And it just immediately speaking.
violence. I just don't know. I'm in
the nicest place. Cobbles.
Shit is beautiful.
I jump on the plane. I got eight out.
And I'm like, when I blow the head all,
when I hit, I'm just, it's like,
I don't know what people understand. Maybe it's my
therapy. Maybe that's what I do.
What is it for you? You know what I liken it to?
I liken it to, you know, just having,
having a, you know, first of all,
rap has always come.
from a very real place
you know what I'm saying so it's like
for real rap for people that can
rap and yeah it comes from a very
real place
so um
you know with that being said
and you know being in it
you know 23 years
um I feel like
at this point I liken it
to uh
you know only like you know somebody who loves
mob movies or a person
you know what I'm saying person that that's what they choose to
like you know I don't I don't watch
I don't watch horror
I watch A&E
You know
It's scarier
I believe it
You know what I'm saying
So it's like
I liken
I liken my music to that
As well
I don't know man
Listen you can't please everybody
But listen
23 years in this
I'm not trying to please nobody
But myself
That's what I care about
Like you know
I know
That
that my taste, my ear, and what it is that I want to hear,
that resonates with a certain type of person.
That's the type of person I want to talk to.
That's the person I like.
You know what I'm saying?
I know.
The person who says that, who says like, oh, you know,
he talked that heaviness and now that I.
Like, man, I'm sure I don't even jail with you anyway.
We don't even like you.
I know.
I know I don't like you.
I'm fathered if I don't like you.
We don't like you.
But you're not even my type of doing.
You're not, man.
So I just, you know, I take it with a grain of salt.
But, you know, more importantly, I know, I know who my fan is.
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So I'm more modern, but Jadica, he liked to show off because he knows, you know, I don't, you know, I ain't got no new socks.
My shit holds.
He got to.
He gets Jada kids, though.
He said a lot of flash shit, so when he's got a lot of life.
So he got guns that the government ain't got, that Salman, he's rubbing the spot.
Walls do a 360
and the floor lip up.
He got your...
Oh, my God.
Now, this is what I was going to ask, though.
Oh, shit.
Jadikas, you was bald for the longest.
You mean to tell me
that you had a completely healthy headline
and you could have just grew your shit back
at any moment.
Yeah, it was a play.
That shit is crazy, bro.
That shit crazy.
We are out here bald with no options.
And you just said, fuck it.
I'm just going to grow my shit back.
That's respectful.
You got to wash your shit.
No, no.
And leave it.
No, you don't.
Yeah.
You disrespectful.
We thought you was bald.
You had a paper towel wrapped around your forehead for years.
Listen, if he came out, all heads was in.
You know what I'm saying?
Nah.
You guys think, we had, we had, we had, we had, we had, we had, we had, we had, we had, we had.
I'm not going over there, man.
So, why not?
Everybody in Wyoming at a boy.
I do still want to wear hair.
I do still want to look like it.
So go to fucking turkey.
What do you mean you want to wear him?
He's weird.
I'm wearing it.
I'm wearing it.
I'm not going to say that.
I'm not going to say that back.
There you go.
I'm talking about.
All right.
So what I'm saying is working.
You only need a little bit.
Go to Turkey, man.
You can make history.
I already need.
I already need a little bit.
Nah.
No.
No.
Tori, Tiger.
A lot of people did.
He only need like a half it.
He don't need whatever they got it.
And then he's got that Sherman Helmsie on a rock.
This shit is right.
He's got something like a mother-in-lawful.
You got a mother-in-law.
No, I'm not going over it.
There's a solution.
There's not a solution.
Not for me,
because I've seen what it looked like
in the days leading up.
I can't go through that process.
When the front of your head look like
is they the meat to the rag.
I see guys get it.
You got mean hats.
All you got to do is get the...
Yeah, I see you guys get it.
You need to do it.
I ain't lying to you
because you love your hair.
You got to fix that shit up.
I didn't say I love it.
I just love the fact that I could do it.
Like he did.
Like me, I've been born forever.
I can't grow no head now.
Yeah.
What happened to me was...
I used to have hair like the fucking Brady Bunch, right?
Yeah, we've seen it.
And so when I was young, all the time, you see it.
No, for real, JJ, he's telling the truth.
You know, you're saying it.
I see that pick, man.
Come on, see you, man.
Fuck with the people at home, man.
You keep fucking with him.
I see the picture.
Let me tell you, I had hair like the Brady bunch,
but I shaved it all because all the tough guys had the baldies in my hood.
My father chased me around the projects four times trying to beat me up
because he knew what that meant.
You couldn't catch you?
He couldn't catch me, but I was running.
You know, the point is, one day I made a bet with Big Pun.
And I was like, he was like, yo, man, you can't grow no ass.
I said, you fucking crazy.
My shit, like the Brady bunch.
If I want right now, I grow braids, whatever.
So I try to grow this shit.
And it was like, rest and peace to the hairline, everything.
That shit was coming up.
Like, that man, pun had some more jokes about that shit.
I lost it.
So I say my shit.
But now I got guys that they do the fake.
They got like a tattoo shit.
I can't do that.
I can't do it either.
Yeah, yeah.
But you could do the turkey.
I can't do the turkey.
Because it's your real ear, come back.
No.
No.
No.
No, no, no.
I'm not doing the turkey.
So that's for your signature.
My story is we came in.
Luch had the hot top fade.
SP had the blowout, chemical blowout back then.
Like the Jackson Fad?
No, when it was when the dope boys had it, when they came
back in, man. Like Maffirman in the room.
Oh, okay, got you. So, boom.
When we got the deal,
they still had air. I went ball first.
Then I made a thing when y'all shit fall out.
I'm going to come back. And I just kept my word and came back.
God bless you, brother. Because if I had air, my shit,
they'll call me Alejandro.
Yeah, come on, dog.
My shit would be redolfo.
My shit would be.
Gold and turkey.
You sell it.
I don't want it.
I don't want it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Don't come back with this shit.
Come back.
Come back.
I do not want it.
Yes, you do.
Because I see how you look on the front of them buses.
What my shit will be with Delpho.
Now, that's the look you make when you own that shit.
Yeah.
That was like, right?
My shit I had this.
My shit would be like this with the curl with the fucking juice and all that shit on my shit.
So led.
Disrespect.
Shout out to Yule and Jesse Terrero.
He got the shit with the curl.
Like, they would think I ain't Fat Joe.
I'd be Fat Joe's twin or some shit with some.
I would really be on some bullshit if I had a year.
This week of hip-hop history, y'all.
May 19th, man, DMX dropped in 1998, the dog.
Always love for the dog.
1998, he dropped his debut album as dark and hell is high.
The importance of that album to me is that, you know, he put us on.
He came and got us, put us, bought us with Rough Riders, told him,
this is, we starting it off like, you know, this who I want to represent with me.
And the rest was history to see where we came from,
to see where he came from, he was already there and there like Bruce Springsteen
And YO, we already looked at him as like a rock star.
Then fast forward, him being the only or one of the only rapists that ever do would stop.
That shit is crazy, you know what I mean?
That video tape fell out.
Will forever mean the world to me because, you know what I mean?
He gave me a chance to change my family's financial situation.
You know, DMX stuck a guy up right in front of me.
DMX stuck a lot of niggins up.
No, but he was already a star.
Oh, he did it after he was X?
Yes.
Oh, shit.
It's me, him and Pund in the gas station in Brooklyn.
After a show, thousands of people after the show, we in the gas station,
dude comes with some chains, and DMX was like, yo, hold up, y'all.
He went and took his chains, came back and started talking to us in the gas station.
Yo, DMX.
He can't get indicted.
He dead, so.
No, no, no, he's done.
He dead.
I'm just telling you a true story.
Like, I got so many DMS.
You might have...
We got to filter some of these stories,
Greg.
I'm telling you, you might have...
You got to have incredible DMX story.
I'm not telling you none of them,
the crazy, since we go,
I got to give a punch story.
Look, when we shot the John Blaze video.
DMX showed up.
No, listen.
This is how long ago it was,
and this is how crazy,
this was stashboxes first got invented.
He wanted to test his shit out.
There was more before.
that but yeah it was in the 80s we had stash trust it wasn't they wasn't doing what the
shits was doing as the as a technology involved you get the bling to show you the stash
he wanted to test his own shit up he drove somebody was driving he was in the passenger
let off a four I don't know what it was that da da da da da and wanted to get pulled over and got
pulled over
and I said
this thing is nuts
though
he is nuts
that was the crazy
he put it in the stash
yeah
he had enough
in front of the cops
let it off
pull a block
a dude
pull over
I don't know
he's talking about
officer
this
and they ain't
have the shit
to make it
pop out yet
so he was
I said
this thing
a pun is crazy
I just
had the bins
the way
to explain it to you
the way to explain
it to you
back
is you know
how somebody
could be a genius in something and then in just common sense he just don't know what he's like
I would go to his house right and he would have about 30 40 guns in this house if you sat in a
pillow it was a gun you put your hand on the chicken it was a gun you hit it it was just and I would
sit there because I really came from the streets I know what Rico indictsments are
indictments are I know what all this is I don't came from
I mean, like, they're going to make a jail just for you, buddy.
Nah, they don't lock rappers up like that.
They got swimming pools for rappers and all that.
Tennis courts, I'm like, yo, bro.
He's thinking about the futuristic feds.
What?
And I would tell him, like, yo, pun, you're crazy, bro.
Then I go around his hood and the cops pull me over.
Like, because one of the only rappers who never moved out the hood even until he died.
He refused to move out the hood.
already in Jersey, like, yo, come
in Jersey. Birds are chirping.
You know, he, nah, I'm in the hood.
I'm the realist. This.
Pun at the crib in the hood, Tim Benz's.
Exotic, $20,000
dogs and all type of shit.
Like, he was big pun, double platinum
in the hood. He didn't care.
And so, I would
go to his hood and as a
respected elder
brother, the police
won me over. So I'm like your officer.
Why are you putting your old, Joe, man, you know,
You got to stop throwing eggs at the old ladies
in front of the supermarket.
You know, we know he's the only guy with the bends
with the water guns shooting the old ladies.
I'm like, yo, I go in this house.
I start arguing with everybody in the house.
Like, yo, punt, they're going to put you in jail.
You're shooting the water guns at the old ladies.
They know the only guy with the 500 bends
in the fucking sound view, it's you, punt.
you're going now he just didn't he he uh he would go real from genius to common sense no sense
like i had a real struggle with him and norrie because norrie's also my little brother
when they was together they was crazy them two together is nuts oh they used to see me and be like
yo jo's the fun killer he's the fun killer no i don't want you to go to jail
and not get to the back like i know what's going on out here you guys are too crazy
They gave us a sign.
I don't know who's controlling your time.
But hold up.
So he only got five minutes.
Mama, come over here.
I want you to sit on the couch.
Make this shit legendary.
You know what I'm saying?
Sit down, Mama.
You know, we love you.
How proud are you to be Bubba Chuck's moms
in this journey in life, you know,
with Bubba Chuck.
and all the success
and how you see him
come around as a man.
It's important
because you're the first
mother,
athlete's mother
that we all fell in love with.
We love you braiding his hair
in the middle of the court.
I got to stop you with that.
That's not me.
I braided his hair.
That's not her.
He's supposed to know that.
I braided his hair
from all the,
when he first wanted his hair braided.
Now, I did braid his hair,
but his hair was coming loose
in the back.
and he was worried about his, you know, he liked to be fly.
He was worried about his hair coming to loose.
So, you know, my sister called me, and she was like,
Ian, he keep on telling me and looking at me,
and I don't know how to breed here.
And I was like, brandy.
But all you got to do is just braid his hair.
You braiding just the back of it.
And so when I got there, I saw my son.
That cap is rubbing off on it.
If it is cap, it's rubbing off.
If it is cap, it's rubbing off.
Yeah, because mommy got.
Yeah, because mommy got this.
Oh, flag
Mommy got the story,
wrong.
It is what it is.
I got to be authentic.
You taught me to be that way.
You know what I mean?
It didn't go down.
It didn't go down.
And then he over there calling
now I'm Bubba Chuck
why he's talking to Mommy.
Now I go to,
at first I was AI.
Now I turn into Bubba Chuck
when he's talking to Mommy.
But it didn't,
it ain't happen like that.
Well, you, you got my version.
You got your version.
Yeah, okay.
So all of us.
You know, we, you know,
You know, your son, AI, you know, my mom's ain't here, man, so we want to hear it.
You know, how proud are you of your son, man, and all his accomplishments and how he inspired generations of people.
First of all, I was proud of him from the first day I saw him, you know, because back then, yeah, back then, back then when you have a baby, and I was so young, like he said.
so, you know, I had to have him to Scyrianberg, and I was sleep.
So when I woke up in recovery, and they brought him to me, and I was like, he's so light.
And you know what I'm saying?
But when he opened his eyes and he looked at me and I saw my eyes looking back at me,
I said, oh, yeah, that's my baby.
You know, and I checked everything on him.
I checked everything on him.
But what really blew my mind is, first of all, I got kicked off the basketball team because
I got pregnant with him.
But what blew my mind was his hands and his arms.
His arms was past his kneecap.
When I laid him out like that, they went way past his kneecap.
And I was like, I got a baller.
And I was happy.
I was happy.
And so I told my family, I told my whole family, I was like, you know, I got a baller.
So everybody was like looking at me like I was simple or whatever.
But the thing is, from that point on, he came in my life.
And he was the perfect child.
He was not hard-headed.
He would listen to everything I said, and he loved the daylights out of me.
And at that point, I needed love because of the fact that my mom had died at 29 years old, male practice.
But anyways, the Iverson said, Senator Virginia, and that's the best thing they could have done for me.
And when I had him, when I was carrying him, I was pregnant playing ball in the Hartford, Connecticut.
And I went from there to Bethel High School playing ball.
And he had a favorite cheer.
And his cheer...
Don't do that, Ma.
Okay.
We got to hear, Mama, Mama.
Yeah, tell us the chair.
Yeah, it was a favorite cheer.
And it used to be...
No, no, it used to be...
Everybody'd be on the court, and we had half time.
And then everybody has sing,
go, Bruins go.
And everybody would shut up.
And he would say, shake that thing.
So that's my story
But far as proud
I want to tell you something
that he said to me this year
I said Bubba I said
You know I am so proud of you
I said you just make me so proud
I'm proud of you
I just wanted to express that to him
So he'll know it from my
Yeah
And he said I'm not finished
He said I'm not finished making you proud
And that's what he's been doing
With that being said, this ain't that?
That ain't there.
This cracking kiss, make some noise for our guests.
Hey, I am mama love.
How does it feel to be on the Guinness book
and be one of the biggest female superstars
with the most long,
and relevancy in the game.
I mean, honestly, it's a blessing.
I'm super, super humbled.
And it's funny, when you talk about that,
remember, I didn't know what none of that meant.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm a new artist.
So maybe we're happy for you.
Yes, everybody's happy.
And I'm looking, I'm like, well, is that good?
$500,000?
Is that a good number?
You know what I'm saying?
I've genuinely had no idea.
Isn't a good number?
It's a good number.
So I was just like.
super appreciative and to be able
to be here today and still
as we both were in an arena
in London to a sold out
20,000 C to holding a mic out
allowing people to sing on records
is a blessing. You know what I'm saying?
So I'm just so happy. I'm grateful.
You know? You know, we're very competitive
in our house.
Because you know, we like that a lot.
That means the baby got all last
the dagger though that she throws
like my debut did a half.
No, no, she don't.
You did a love him.
No, he's got a diamond.
Don't wait.
You didn't have the first week.
I'm going down down.
She got me on that.
There's nothing I can say.
Oh, boy.
Okay.
She's saying.
I'm looking at the video.
Yeah.
Okay, hold on.
You 26 of 33.
Hold on, Jay.
That wasn't a week.
You're 26 or 33.
Joe, that wasn't a week.
That video come out.
That was not.
I'm going down down.
That was not bringing the numbers.
It's 10 million solely.
That wasn't the week.
He got diamond.
You were talking about the week.
Not talking about the week.
Listen, let me run down the hardware that they got in their name.
There's a lot of hardware.
Just listen, ladies and gentlemen.
Nellie, three Grammys, four American Music Awards,
Two BET Awards, nine Billboard Awards.
Nellie has sold over 21 million albums in the United States,
one of the best-selling rap artists in American history.
Country Grammar Diamond, 10 million.
Nellyville, Diamond, plus one, 11 million.
Now, Ashanti, one Grammy, two American Music Awards,
six ASCAP Awards, eight Billboard Awards,
First debut album, 500,000 of first week, triple platinum.
Chapter 2, platinum, concrete rose platinum.
36, hardwearing night.
Ashanti, 36 Christmas movies.
You're a lifetime favorite.
Right.
Could be.
Have a Christmas dream of Rosal Berry.
Just.
I've been counting our money forever.
Yo.
Yo.
I mean, it's competitive in the house, man.
And a star.
Oh, in a star.
I can't forget the star.
Can't forget the star.
Yeah, it's nice.
It gets real in there, man.
We love that, though.
You know what I'm saying?
We love that.
That's beautiful competition in the house.
I met a shanty.
To put that under one race.
Let me tell you something.
I met a shanty.
It's a blessing.
Could we, could I talk about that?
Talk about it.
I met the Shanti.
Shanti was like a studio,
just a studio body.
You could call it a studio rat.
That's what they used to say.
That's what they used.
I'm not saying that, but I'm just saying that.
Go ahead.
Studio body.
She up in there.
And the first day I met her,
she was so upset because they broke into her car
and stole her radio.
This woman was,
was ready to file charges
to the moon and Beckley.
What happened?
They just stole my radio.
Crackette broke the way.
I mean, it was like
somebody murder somebody.
I'm up in that shit.
I'm like,
y'all he stole the radio
with the Benzzy box.
Oh, you take the box.
It was like,
they stole her shit.
They stole my radio, bro.
And you know, I would see her in the studio
and then one day I asked him.
I said, yo, what does the girl do?
Right, because they was like gangster rappers, right?
So they said, ah, she sings R&B, right?
And then she did the big pun.
Big pun.
I said, you want to write a hook for the big pun thing?
And she killed it.
Smoked that joint.
She smoked that joint.
And then we did the West Love.
Yeah.
And then after that, it was the princess of, that was it.
Hip, hip, and soul.
And she, yo, no talk.
Every time I see this, he was advocating.
When we weren't together,
Nellie, what are you doing?
Every time I see her kiss,
Nellie!
My God, how you been in?
That's great.
What are you doing?
That's why you need that for ten.
You know, see, I'm saying.
At first, he thought I was bugging out.
Yeah, I used to be like, Joey.
Tom is tripping.
It's crazy, right, because I also think of one situation,
not to bring up anything negative
because we just...
But I remember the time
I got into it with 50 Cent
who, yo, 5th, what's up?
We performed in Germany in two days.
But I remember the time
when I got into it
with him at the MTV Awards.
You know, his business is really crazy,
right?
Because you think everybody,
your man, everybody, this and this and that.
Well, you was the only person
at all the rappers that I knew
that I seen Get Up.
And you, you was telling me,
y'all, I got you.
Like, I'm holding you down.
In that, when I was like, y'all, 50, said this,
and then he came back and diss me.
But you had my back?
Well, I knew five.
Me and five always had a great relationship.
That kind of distorted them.
Well, no, because, and just to tell, what was we at?
MTV Awards.
That's what I thought he was going.
We were at the MTV Awards, and they were sitting, like, a table right behind us.
Now, I didn't have too much to drink.
I'm hype.
This is right before Kid Rock and Pamela and Tommy Lee.
Slapped the shit out of Tommy Lee.
Yeah.
So there was something before Chris Rock and was sitting at the table right.
Hey, you know that.
And Kid Rock is sitting with us.
And Tommy Lee is like a table over.
And my cat, Kid Rock, that's my cat, too.
He hot.
He hot is fish grease.
He's sitting right there.
He's like, I should go.
and I'm gassing him.
He's not going to go do this.
You're gassing him?
Well, I'm not gassing him.
You know what I'm like?
She was me.
You know what I'm saying?
So he does what he does.
So what he did?
He smacked who?
Boy, he's smacked.
Tommy Lee.
You don't remember that MTV Awards out in Vegas?
Yeah.
We would stay right next to them.
We were sitting at the table.
But five was right back here, right?
So I'm hyped.
I didn't got hype.
I didn't got a bit.
I said, babe,
I'll make that.
I apologize.
You want me to go over there?
What?
You make, don't be looking.
You want me to go, mate?
She was not, no way in my heart
as I'm thinking she's going to tell me to go over there.
She's like, yeah, babe.
Yep.
Yep.
That's a new, that's gone.
Yo, that's a new,
you know.
So, kiss, I'm like, I'm going.
So I turn around.
She can't see my face.
I'm walking towards five, like,
Hey, man.
Let me highlight you.
You know, table full of G unit.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, oh, God, just, he's up.
This is going to right.
This is not going to go well.
You know what I said?
And I started laughing coming.
He cracked the spine.
I was like, he's fine, man.
Hey, man.
Do me a favor.
Do me a favor.
Will you, my old lady, man, do me a favor.
Man, apologize for a man.
Ashanti, I'm sorry.
That's exactly what he says.
In the middle of the whole crowd in the audience.
I was like,
I turned back around to her.
By the way, I had personally 20 meetings with him over her.
Oh, my God, yes.
Without her even knowing, I didn't have sat down with him 20 different times.
It was like, yo, bro, she got none that, like, you know, that's my sister, you bugger.
out this, this, this, this, 20.
Yeah.
You didn't tell me to him, Mo.
I know she got nothing to do with him, but what you want me to do is war.
Man.
I was like, I was hot.
Yeah.
You was hot over that, right?
Yeah, I didn't have nothing to do with it.
And then after he said, he said, I was like, yeah, I.
Yeah.
I was like, okay.
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There's two moments in my life, in my career,
that I can cite you for and just want to say thank you, brus.
Like, you don't know what it meant to me.
One was, you put me in the video, in your video.
Hussein is the key to success, me, you nah, Zah, Zah, man.
You know, when pictures come out like once a year,
It's going to be here forever.
I love that, man.
We was kids in the arm,
but you pulled up to the Bronx.
That meant something, no.
That meant something because,
let him get in.
You know, coming from Chicago,
man, one of the things we wanted
was just to be heard by New York.
And for you to be like, yo, come on.
Even though he's on the same label,
if you thought I was on some weak shit,
you'd have been like, ah.
No.
You just flag back on that.
Thank you, beloved.
Thank you.
It's the beloved of all beloved
I'm going to tell you some shit
What's the second one?
What's the second one?
Well, the second one, we didn't talk about a lot
where you, man, you practically saved my life.
Oh, get the other flag back.
Take the other flag up.
Yo, yeah, yeah.
Yo, Jay, Jay.
He got his flagged back.
That man really saved my life.
Like, I was out on the West Coast with my guy.
One of my guys I knew.
through one of my close homies,
but he was my guy,
and he just wasn't happy with the whole situation,
the whole Ice Cube Mac 10 beef that we had,
told him we had squashed it,
we're doing it, we sitting there doing a commercial.
This was the most money I was getting paid ever
for something at that point in time.
So we, at peace, we like, yo, things is good.
Everybody was happy.
My guy just, he's from Chicago,
we just couldn't hold it.
He couldn't hold it.
So he started ruffling shit,
and, man, it just got a little heated.
And I want to say that it's not because Fat Joe's tougher than anybody.
I literally beg for your life.
I literally got in the middle.
It was like, please, he's my friend.
He's my brother.
You know, some people take things personal, and they finally saw him.
And he was on there, saw you, and they was talking crazy.
And I was like, no way.
This guy.
I said, this literally my brother.
And I was begging them because it was the serious ones.
I was like, please, this is my brother.
Joe, you know, we've been waiting to catch this guy.
I said, listen, I can't.
I just couldn't do.
I just, and basically I stood in the middle like, please, guys.
Like, I cannot do it, but they settled.
It was over after that day, right?
It was over after that day.
But you settled that.
Like, I'm like, man, we are.
on, we in California, don't start nothing.
My homie already, because they already, like you said,
they already wanted a piece of me no matter what.
What?
Because, so my guy out there, he's just going off it.
And anyway, I knew Joe, I ain't even hit it,
but I didn't know everything he did.
Oh, no.
He did.
I knew it was him that said, yo, this can't happen.
And because he had a, you know, a relationship.
Super relations.
Still my brother.
Shout out to that.
And yeah, shout out to Joe.
Shout to the Inglewood.
Yeah, Eaglewood.
Us is my family.
Eaglewood family was good.
That's when Fat Joe the gangster,
I was like, this thing is,
because he straight up was like,
he can't do that to my man.
It was like one of the movies
where he used to something about Goodfellas.
Good fellas is something.
Hey, once again, I begged him.
I was in their mercy and I was just like,
please, this is my brother.
This is my family.
I did that one time for Rich Playa,
my best friend.
One time they was about to do it.
And not saying Rich and them ain't real deal.
where he was getting into it
with a seven-headed monster,
a guy who just kills.
He's in jail for too many bodies.
And I had to jump in the middle
and be like, yo, yo, yo, yo, I can't.
It's like, yo, fat boy, get out the way.
I was like, oh, no, I can't.
This is my family.
I can't.
I knew what it meant.
They real deal, and this other guys,
you know, a Jeffrey Dahmo.
And I'm a monster.
And I'm sitting there like, yo, listen.
Please, let me get in.
I said, no.
Shout out to knock him dead, Ed.
Knock him dead.
Y'all Eddie, yeah, and up there.
But they go, but they go, the man go,
because it's the first argument I ever had with him, right?
He goes the next day to Rich and they block on Cyprus
and says, if Joe got in the middle,
that means you're good guys.
Let's become friends.
And they wind up being best friends.
My man's still in jail 37 years.
But he went the next day.
it on himself and said, if Fadjo threw himself in the middle trying to squash it,
these guys got to be good guys.
And it was all over, you know, staring at each other in the club and a couple of girls
and, you know, these guys, they kill each other over girls.
These gangsters, man, a lot of gangsters in jail killing over girls.
I'm telling you, I had a guy, this guy was a maniacate.
He's still in jail, too, 40 years, right?
He was mean.
Look, and he turned this scared straight.
No, no, because...
No, he's talking...
A lot of wars have come over...
Of women.
Most of them.
Yo, but listen, this guy,
all I'm going to say to you
is this was a mass murder.
He's still in jail, 40 years.
He would come to the club and he'd go,
he's Puerto Riga,
and he'd be like, aye.
And I'd be like, yo,
I...
The nend...
He's talking by his wife
was bad as shit, too,
and she was fucking dudes.
Yeah.
Like, she was loose.
So he come on,
you know Jimbo from the barber shop
Yeah he was with the net
Everybody of his 10 guys there
No no no Jimbo he didn't know
Yes with the net
Gimbo won't be around
And two more days
Like he would come all
One time I argue with the niggas like
I said no
I don't want to hear that shit
You're a fucking liar
She's the most decent girl in the world
She didn't do it
Yes, the Nenna
And everybody knew what that was
Somebody was disappearing
Over the Nena
Yeah
No, I'm no maniacs like that
Man, but you know common man
You're the beloved
The ball beloved
Let's keep it peace
You know
I got my Palisante
You know
You know, I said
You see what I'm saying
What's that like
Spoken Sage or something
It was supposed to protect us
For that story
It's similar to say it's Palisanto.
It's Palisanto.
You know it comes from the trees down in Chile.
Bring in a good energy.
Bring it a good energy.
Move negative energy.
I never really brag about jail because I only did four months.
I got friends that did 20, 30, 40 years.
But last night I get the-
I only did four days.
Huh?
I only did four days.
And that's a lot.
Looking out the window for four days.
Looking at the bus stop.
What? I know you was at county, so you had black coffee, baloney, sandwich, shit like that.
I have one. I have a couple of Kool-Aid.
Tell you something. I did time.
Two vitamins.
I got to explain this to you. I did time in the feds.
Don't like.
And there's two, you know, I'm a thinking, Mike.
Let me tell you. I'm just thinking, mate.
I grew up in the projects, right?
And there's this grass in the middle of all the project builders.
We got big project buildings.
Every building is 14th floor, 145 apartments.
I counted all the doors, right?
Everybody will fight.
14th floors, 145 apartments.
Accounting all the doors.
Accounted all the doors.
Now, and everybody got nine kids.
So this shit is like, you fuck up one guy.
You got to fight the other brother.
You got to fight Jamie, Jonathan, Craford,
till you get fucked up.
To one of them found you out.
You got to go up the line.
Then the Cock Diesel brother come out.
So good luck.
At least you stood tall, you fought them.
You got your ass whip.
That's where I come from.
Projects is like gladiator.
The point I'm trying to make is there's a big grass in my projects.
Everybody has shootouts there.
They have fights.
You know, one day I go up to the roof of my building and I look at the grass.
And I say to myself, was this like an experiment?
Because like if you go up on my roof and you should,
see the gun battles and the fights
and everything that happened in the middle of the grass
you sit up there
it's almost like the Coliseum
and so where I'm getting to is when you
go to the feds where I went
you got 2,000 dudes
Jamaicans, Aryan nations
Spanish dudes, black
dudes, these white
American dudes
and there's only four tables
I'm just trying to
there's four tables
with four chairs
that's 16 seats
and there's 2,000 guys
and it's right in front of the three TVs
you got the Spanish TV
the blackest guy
don't know English
you're looking at the mommy's in the Spanish
teeth like that's like
the world no no that shit is like
you might as well call
that shit soft porn motherfucking looking at that
they don't got to know what they're talking about
they up in there like this every day
right so you got four tables
of course
I got a table right
Ooh, I got a table.
No, no, I'm walking there in 10 minutes.
In 10 minutes, I say, yo, who sits in them tables?
Homeboy looked at me shook because a lot of guys are pussy.
They're not really real.
Just because you in jail, you act tough tits and you get in jail.
I watch people get smack, punched in the face and say,
my bag, and keep walking.
These guys cocked, these are playing basketball.
Nephew, you don't got to go in there for me to tell you.
The guys you think is tough on your block,
I watch guys get punched in their face and say,
my bag, I'm sorry, and walk away.
I never seen no shit
like you got to fucking murder me
like you just can't do it
right so I'm up in there
he does that I go down to the table
guy sitting there
I'm like you're my man get the fuck up
he don't want to get up
I say you're my man
you got to get the fuck up
he got up
and he left so I took the table
10 minutes in there
right sit down half the jail
hated me a thousand niggas hated me
because they was like oh he's not going to get
freestyle
This niggas didn't hang on this bullshit, right?
I wanted you to ride.
Everybody rhyme in jail, Jay.
Everybody want to rhyme for you.
I ain't let one dude ride for me.
So I'm sitting down in the chair.
They look, and some of them hate me, some of them don't, whatever.
Who gives a fuck, right?
I only got four months anyway, so I'm willing to be in the box for the four months.
The point is, as soon as I figured it out, like, I just needed, like, a week in there, right?
Because the first week, the feds don't give you commissary.
I don't give a fuck of you Donald Trump.
It takes you two weeks.
I got him getting it.
I walked in there, listen, you got him getting it?
I got him getting it.
No, I got him getting it.
He breaks the rules.
Let me tell you, I walked in with $5,000 cash in my pocket to put in commissary.
He still took two weeks.
The point is the first meal.
I had to wait on line.
And they were very generous.
Everybody, they kept throwing the, like,
the plate they kept on.
They threw like six of eight of them on my table, right?
When I tell you, this shit tastes like,
when, listen, even the guys that mind their business,
there's some guys in jail mind their business.
Don't bother nobody.
They're over there.
They don't talk to nobody.
You know, they're good people.
When I tell you, all of them looked over and wanted to see my first reaction.
When you had to eat his fucking food, this was dog shit, this food, right?
My dog was eating better than this.
They all looked and they was like, okay, he,
know what it is in here now, right?
So I go like this, but very quick, I got me
Italian chef. They had a chef
down in the thing, Chef Jr.
He wasn't pussy, so I don't think he was just
a tech, but he was my chef. He'd make me
homemade ice cream, mozzarella,
they were still the clams, and they
would make me Laguanian clams, so it was all type
of shit. We were dumbing out, right?
I got the guy, I got pick up
a guy, I told you about Hong Kong's
Mongolian. So in jail,
in jail.
The nigger, Hong Kong's Mongolian.
Because he was the guy nobody wanted.
And so in jail, if you white, you're with the white guys.
You're black, you with the black guy.
You're with the Spanish.
He was a white guy that the white guys ain't won.
But I saw him.
Yeah, but he was, man, he had that boot strength.
So, like, he played basketball and nobody wanted to deal him
because he'll hit you with an elbow or shit, but he was strong.
So I said, my man, come with us, man.
You eat with us.
you with us. I gave him a name
Hong Kong's
Mongolia. And one day he comes
up to me, because the guy's
partially slow.
I mean, but he's just, no, no, he's not
slow. He's just slow. He's a little bit
off. He ain't go past second grade.
But this guy
was, you know, he was...
Damn, second grade.
Nah, but you... Give him at least
six grade. No, this guy
take out 10... Give him six. Give him six.
Give him six and seven.
This guy would take out
1020 guys.
Like, it was all out war.
He's going to take out 1020.
He's Hong Kong's Mongolia.
Yo, look at that.
He used to stand there like this.
The white guys was looking like, oh, shit.
There got to be something to this.
Fat Joe's snatched up this guy, and I'm calling him.
And the old job, yo, listen, they ain't no different than this show.
Hong Kong's Mongolian, he's walking through.
What's up, boss?
They're looking like we made of us.
We didn't recruit this thing
He's the Hong Kong
He was like Shadour
They let him go
They let him go
He went past all the drafts
And I seen the sparkle in him
I said yo this is Hong Kong's money
He come up to me one day
He said boss boss
I said what's up he said
I just realized
Hong Kong and Mongolia's two different places
I said my man shit the fuck
I'd be happy I get you a day
Get the fuck out of you
Okay boss
Okay boss he goes on
but I got this story
but I thought about it last night
and I don't really brag about jail
because these guys did 10,000 years in jail
but in the feds
less now than ever
but they always said you go to the feds
and guys got money in there
so next to me in the table
don't ask me how they got the table
was for
Latinos
but they could be
I'm in Miami so they could be like Cuban
but I don't think they're Cuban
but I don't think they're Cuban
but you could tell they got money
like in the streets
if I pulled up in the cullin
they're pulling up in the collie
they're pulling up in these guys got money
they're not bothering nobody
they got money I don't really talk to them
because they really ain't my type of guys
I'm sorry if y'all watching
there wasn't my style of guy
you know what I'm saying
and so
one day
we sitting there we're watching TV
and the guy
goes at orders of pizza pie
now at least jail I was in
a pizza pie is like caviar, right?
Everybody ain't have a pizza pie.
Any normal person, they have a...
Yeah, the real pizza pie or somebody...
No, no, jail pizza pie, but it's still a big deal.
In jail, I watched niggas throwing bananas down these shit
of eye pool, like, diggas do the most derelict shit
for anything in there.
Like, I mean, grown men, yo, watching your back while you're still in a banana.
That's how bad it is in jail, bro.
It's really a third world country in America.
It's bad in there.
But anyway, pizza, they're up to like 20 pizzas for no reason.
They couldn't even eat it.
Y'all, another pizza.
Every time a pizza came, they kept looking at me.
My table was right next one.
It was like, I go on my cell.
Okay.
In the feds, at least a gel I'm at.
The eggs they give you in the morning is powdered eggs.
They had never seen a real egg in the jail, a fucking egg.
Think about where you go to store.
or buy it
does it. They had never
seen a real egg
in the jail I was in.
I go to my cell
I come out.
Microwe's right there.
The whole fucking shit
you see.
Crack of egg.
Bam, one.
That was it.
Yo,
they had never seen the egg.
Bam, one.
Bam, two.
Bam, I'm up to 40, 50 eggs.
Just,
bam.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bam.
Bam.
Like,
the whole jail's watching.
The arms.
Did through the challenge.
Yo!
Yo.
Yo, I'm trying to.
That's the job flag.
How about I keep going?
Ooh.
To like 6 to 7?
607, 6 to 7?
six seven like this
the motherfucker look at me dizzy
they learned
the pizza dudes
bro
they never seen an egg
I bust open
so many eggs
the scramble eggs
was so big
and I just kept going like this
like letting them know
like yo bro I got shit
you ain't even see
in this fucking jail
y'all trying to play with me
with some pizzas
y'all got me fucked up
I get up to the six, seven.
I give him a chef junior, let him good.
You know what's crazy is we had.
And this, this, this, this, this, no offense,
but this slight racist, what I'm about to say right now.
We had, no, no, no, I'm telling you.
We had one Asian guy in the whole jail.
One Asian.
And I would bother them every day.
Like, yo, you make Chinese rice.
You know how to cook.
You know how to cook.
You make, I'm a fat dude.
Like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,
preferred like listen to me man
I want the Chinese rice
the man telling me yo I don't cook
I keep bothering him yo he's I don't cook I don't cook
I'm like you got Chinese you know
huh they know how to make it
I got to give him it
he wouldn't let me punk him into making Chinese rice
I kept bothering them like yo you make Chinese
you got Chinese food you got Chinese you know how
he was like no I want don't know all right
so one day is my man's birthday
and I give the dude the white
towel like in Mr. Child
and I have him
I have him serve my man
for his birthday like his man
I say yo Mr. Child baby
Mr. Child
I got the with the white
with the white towel over his head
I'm like yo Mr. Child man
in the feds man
you got Mr. Child
you know we was clowns man
this thing is crazy
no no
yo listen
clowns
I said
So I go on a visit and somebody slips me some Jordans.
Now, in the feds, you're even wearing a gray sweatsuit or a beige.
I don't give a fuck who you are.
They are not.
No one has Jordans.
I got it by the fault.
You told me, yo, slip your shit off.
I slipped it off in a visit.
Then I put them on as George's.
Biggest mistake in my life.
I go up at the elevator,
the whole elevator's life.
You know, because in this building,
they got these elevators,
you can put a tractor trailer in there.
So they got 300 guys on the building.
And the whole visit is looking at my feet.
Like, I walk in the fucking tear.
Puerto Rican do a barber.
I would love to see him.
He was a barber with a little tail from Puerto Rico.
Puerto Rico.
He was a real one.
So he runs up and goes.
Like I tell you, he's real racial in there.
He runs up and goes,
Mebock, Maybaw!
He starts screaming.
If I wanted to be on the low, it's no low.
He's screaming Maybott.
Maybac.
Basically, he's saying, yo, the Puerto Rico, the Latino guy,
the Maybop, like the cullin on his feet.
You ain't never see this shit.
He's telling everybody, yo,
them Jordans is a Maybock in here, man.
It's a fucking Maybock.
And he's screaming there, everybody starts.
looking up from all corner.
So I'll get the spaghetti feet
damn there. You know, my shit looking like
Jerry Lewis, I'm walking too.
For sure, I'm in trouble.
Right? For sure, I'm not scared
that somebody's stealing the sneaker. I'm in trouble.
Right? So,
I felt like Homeboy, what's the thing?
Huggy Bear with the fish tank pumps.
Remember when he came out to jail?
He had the fish in the shoes.
Years later, and they was playing public enemy.
It's shit that I'm going to get you sucker.
Bro.
I thought like huggy bear walking out there
and them shits
sure enough the next day
they rush myself
they got these people like internal affairs
or whatever they call SIS
they rush the cell
boom I'm working out
and pull out the Jordans
are going to thing
the assistant warden is there
now this woman
shout out to the woman
she's like
tough
real tough
so I say hey one
but I was always nice to this lady
I don't know why I was always nice
that anytime I passed that
anytime I did something
I was like hey
Gordon I had that report
so she says
none of these people are your friends Joe
we got like 40 phone calls
from the hotline talking about
you got the Jordans
so I'm like
you know I'm not my friends
she said
do you know what we got in here
I said no she said
such and such the leader of the shower pies
such as such as the leader
of the guerrilla FARC army in Colombia
such and such the kingpin of all
because it's Miami's the hub
so if you doing work out there
Jamaica, Santa Domingo
Puerto Rico the killers
are all killers they throw them over
it's Miami's the hub right
and she said
and do you know every floor I go to
whose fucking name
I hear the most
She said, fat, motherfucking Joe.
I see, yo, what you want me to do?
Like, I've been humble.
I don't get into arguments for nobody.
She's like, Jody, not your friend.
They called up, and she gave me a chance.
Thank God.
But that was, that was, you know, they all called on me.
All you guys, you know who you are.
They all called on me about the Jordans.
But, you know, Joe was different.
I don't advise nobody to go there.
To me, it's like communism.
It's a third world country.
If your family don't send you no money,
and you have no resort but to do crazy things, man.
But I was just thinking about that today,
because I don't try to think about that.
You know what I'm saying?
Sometimes it can't escape your mind.
Yeah, last night, I don't know.
It's the simple things, man.
I was just thinking about it because, you know,
my whole life, I've been chasing the stunt.
My whole life, I've been flexing.
My whole life, just I'm a kid.
I've been trying to make a movie.
And I just got, I started laughing when I thought about the eggs.
and the fucking
the pizza pie
like I really stunted on them
with the eggs
I always think about
the late great
DJ Clark Kent
Super producer
Best in peace to my brother
King
God's favorite man
God's favorite
he you know
this guy was the best in the world
he passed away
but I always think about
when he said
because you know
he did it all
like he was cool
with Biggie, Jay-Z.
Like, he put them on.
He started with Cool Herk.
He's seen his whole shit from hip-hop.
He wasn't that old, man.
He's one of Cool Herk's original DJ.
Superman Clark Kent was down with Cool, Herk.
That's how far he go back back.
I met DJ Callet and DJ Nasty at a
Clark Kent battle.
He had a battle when we came up.
That's how I meant Callet on line around Flojo time.
And so he said that Biggie
and Jay-Z, both is men
and Biggie would be like,
yo, why you say Jay-Z?
But he used to tell Biggie
that Jay-Z's better than it.
Right?
And Biggie would be like,
how do you think he's nicer than me?
He'd be like, yo, because you're a rapper.
He's an MC.
He's like a poet.
You know, this is early, Jay-Z,
before all the hits.
He's a poet, whatever the case may be.
And so, to me,
the difference of an MC and a rapper
is an emcee.
MC is, and you have huge hits too, but you more, you got your hand on the third rail,
Talib Qaulib, Jadikis, Common, these, these are KRS, MC's, rappers, what he's referring to
is the guys on Billboard, they crossed over, and we think they commercial.
What do you think about that argument right there that he was having between Big and Jay-Z,
where Big was like, yo, I'm nicer than son, but he was like,
Nah, Jay Nicer than you, he's an MC.
Of course, this is before success.
What do you think the difference between an MC and a rapper is?
I think an MC is just what it means.
You know what I mean?
You can troll in the maestro.
You can do anything.
You have diversity.
You have, you know, you can do different, you can do a beer commercial.
You can do an R&B feature.
You can do it all.
A rap is just playing.
playing with words, you know, the ability to put words to go.
The MC can control the crowd.
He can have the crowd in his hands.
He can engage with the crowd.
Yeah, but Nelly, he does stadium.
Not just, even the crowd would just.
Hey, it's all about the money.
Now you're going into being an entertainer.
You know what I mean?
Is it an entertainer?
Is it a rapper?
Is it an MC?
Or is the song writer?
Now you got, now you got people that wrote the song
that you never even see.
Yeah, Pac was everything.
That's a fucking...
A actor, dancing, rap,
Pac had all the tools of everything.
He was everything.
He can do drama.
He can make music.
Because I'm trying to find out
who's the perfect one.
Like, so you say, Popat.
That's why I so many.
Dear Mama's like a Picasso.
Yeah.
It's like, it's the best song
right in the game.
You got guys like,
Hove, who would I love the Doe
was talking about, you know,
we cop the hottest Vs,
then the end,
we play Monopoly,
with real cash and that big come on his shit, right?
Was you ever there for any of them, like, big songs?
I was there for hypnotize.
I was there when he wrote with hypnotize.
Was you there for I love the dog or anything like that?
I was there for I loved it, though.
No!
He was actually in the, we was in the middy room.
You know what I mean?
They both was there?
Yeah, it was none of, it was no fucking emails and none of that there.
You had to be there.
So you seen them both going at it right there?
It wasn't battling and none of that.
They was trying to make a hit song, which they did.
Did you see any paper?
Did you see any paper in rhymes?
No.
It was all that's the top.
No, listen.
I didn't see, listen, you didn't tell a real story or not.
Everything I tell is real.
You don't got a hood for a reason.
Listen, we was in the midi room.
We was the young locks.
And Hove kept coming in our room, like, giving us an update
of what's going.
I'm going on. Like, yo, I got to go first. I'm about to go first, this, that.
And he's like, no, he's going there and kill that shit.
You know what I mean? And he was probably going to the bathroom.
Didn't he stop in the middy kicking with us?
You know what I mean? And we actually seen Angela Wingbush.
That's not a sample. That's her singing.
I love the dough.
We've seen her laying a hook.
We've seen DMX laying pray and pray for my downfall.
That ain't a sample evil.
We've seen them record that live.
We wanted a fortunate artist to be featured on Life After Death.
There's only a couple features on there.
So we love Big Forever, you know what I mean?
We thankful to been around for the process of Life After Death
and slightly before that.
It was a beautiful thing.
But, yeah, we was in the studio the day they made.
I was in the studio for Love the Dole.
I think I was in the stew.
Even I was there for a lot of them.
When we would come for our session,
we were here what he just did.
Go on Kiss Good Night.
A lot of them shit.
Of course, we was there for the last days
because we featured on.
Yeah, but you know, when I think about,
when we talk about the perfect MC,
the perfect rapper,
perfect performer, entertainer,
came up a lot today.
I think DMX shows,
which one of them DMX songs.
You was there every song he recorded.
Oh, I was there for a lot.
Shut him down.
to open up shop.
I don't think he wanted to do that.
When Swiss first boarded to him,
he didn't want to do it.
He didn't want to do that?
I don't think,
at first I don't think he was, like,
happy to do it into it when it was done.
When I tell you...
It was a major hit.
And at this time,
I was still halfway in the Bronx.
So I'm at the car wash.
And when I tell you,
every single car,
I don't care,
it was a Spanish dude
that would be playing salsa.
They was playing.
that shit.
Like that song
had me the disiest.
You know how you go
Fordham Road?
Where are you going y'all
because when you want to see
if your record was popping
like Benjamin
you came outside where.
You go to Fordham.
You go to Fordham.
I used to do that.
If I dropped the record
everybody like your joke
up and down the hill.
I stand in and see who's playing my album
whatever.
Up and down the hill, yeah.
Man, I have never
witnessed in the history
of the Bronx.
Stop.
Shut him down.
Yo, I was
It was everywhere.
Like, that was the craziest to me of standing outside trying to hear your song.
That was that shit right there.
And he didn't even want to record that.
I think Swiss had a little problem making them get in a delay to once you find them with the final mixing master version came out.
And they knew what it was.
You know, when I went...
You shot the video.
It was out of it.
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So what would you listen to in the big game?
Like, you're going to playoff.
That wheezy, man.
I'm going to call the three dedication, too.
I'm locked in.
That card of three chains, mine.
Like, that's all through, like, middle school, high school for me.
So, you're in college, that's all I was listening to.
They're like, you're going to ever change this shit?
Hell love.
I had a black ultimatums.
That's all I was bumping.
I think if I was a ball playing, I'm about to play a big game.
I'm listening to some DMX or something.
Yeah, I used to listen to part in the air and all that.
Bring it!
We're right here.
We ain't going anywhere.
Where you ride here?
Like, I'm trying to listen to some shit like that.
I listen to like I'm me
because I'm me
you feel like you're in my zone
like I'm here
no I'm with the car to three
I'm with everything Lil Wayne
never did
in fact little Wayne
let's salute Wayne
let's salute the game
right
because when you listen to
traditional West Coast music
although game could touch it
his sound has always been universal
you can be East Coast down
whatever game got a sound
that could go everywhere
right and with little Wayne
he was the first guy to come like
really straight out the South
of course you got Goody Mob
you got Andre 3,000
but that sounds like South music
this guy was rapping to like
hardcore beats
but was throwing these flows on the shit
it never been seen I'll tell you one Little Wayne story
we do the uh
taking over with Calais I thought I had
everybody but when you see
Crack. Better duck like the Mac.
Gotta eat fast.
They didn't want to sit.
I don't give fuck.
I run it.
I thought I had everybody on the...
I heard everybody's verse.
No.
I don't think that all the time.
I'm not...
No, for sure.
I'm not.
The news you know.
No, I don't always think that.
I'm confident.
No, no.
There's sometimes.
I know...
It's going to be like that, but at a time...
I don't think I'm the best.
I make anthems.
It is what it is.
But that one record,
I thought I had him, kiss.
and then we go
and I go with Charlie
he says yo come with me
let's convince Wayne
to get on the sweat
I said no problem
we play it for Wayne
Wayne
is in the studio
he's not even in the big studio
he's upstairs in the
hip factory but upstairs
he got a room with just
the whole shit of speakers
and he's up in there
and he plays the shit
and he's staring at the speakers
he gets in the studio
in the booth
they crank it up
he goes
I am the
the beast. Feed me hip hop
or feed me beats. I ain't on
an easy street. Why
a less on easy street? I said
motherfucker why did I bring
talent over here
beg this motherfucker
to get on this record? Like I begged
I begged you to get on New York.
I don't know if you recall.
Fat Joe begged you to get
on New York and send you that beat.
Little Wayne, I begged him
to get on taking over. I'm telling you the truth.
Okay.
I got you
I don't know
I don't recall
No I'm just telling you
That's what happened
I'm telling you what happened
Same thing with Lil Wayne
I go over there yo
We really need you wheezy
Hey I am a beast
Feed me hip hopper feed me beats
I'm on reddy tree
Why I'm relaxed on easy street
I was like
I think it's crazy
I walk out of that
fucking studio
Dizzy my head
No, it was
Hello, you're thinking
Oh, yeah, Joe, you know
You got to feel like you're the best
No, I walked out of them stairs
Like, fuck
Knowing I got destroyed on that shit
I'm walking down the stairs like
Gallo's like, yo, we got it
You heard what he said?
I'm like, fuck out of here, bro.
The motherfucker that destroyed my son
Like a motherfucker on this bitch
I thought I finally had these guys
He can't, nah,
Nah.
Little Wayne.
He's different
We're taking over
Monta Ellis
He was a step ahead of everybody
I'm telling you guys
You look at him
And he's at the basket beautifully
Right
Little Wayne
He was a step ahead
And he was a little bit
Faster
He was a little
He was a little
It was something to him
Where he'd dumb out
You like that too
But he dumb out
Like he'd just be like there
and he ain't going to let go.
He's like a pit bull.
Once he got you and you're like,
oh shit, he just won't stop.
He'll just keep doubling,
tripling, quadrupling down on that shit.
Come on, man.
Man was taking beats.
He was taking what, Jay-Z?
What's the shit he did over the Jay-Z beat?
Man, when Lil Wayne did that?
We didn't even know you could rhyme to that shit.
With Jay-Z-B?
Oh, no, he did one of them.
I don't know what it was.
He did one of them.
Shits over so legendary.
Little Wayne on there.
I didn't know you could rap like that on that beat.
Like, we did, he heard that.
I thought of this crazy story, right?
It's going to lead to a question for me, right?
This is crazy.
I like this.
It's insane.
It's an insane one, right?
But it's the truth.
It's uncapable, right?
Who's untapped?
So I got a friend, right?
He passed away.
We used to call him Joe Bentley, because he owns so many Benton.
When we go to Miami
We used to have all these drop-top
Bentley, this guy had too many bentons
Like an Italian dude too much, right?
He died, you said?
He died, right?
But I'm just telling you this story
Because I thought about it on the way here
I was like, who it would be.
But anyway, so this guy
Must have been the original capper
Because you know, everything I say is true.
These people just ain't have an incredible life like you
So they can't comprehend the shit I'd be saying, right?
So this man was the bigger caper than me.
So every time he was so rich,
but every time he would tell me stories,
I'd be like, he was full of shit.
He told me he used to fuck, sit, share.
One day he picks me up in my house in Miami,
he pulls up the Star Island,
share opens the door and the boostier and this thing.
He comes the ass, walks in.
Shit, you can't believe, right?
So the man tells me that when OJ.
Simpson was in the Bronco.
He was in the airport with the private
that O.J. Simpson is his man.
Right? He was the one waiting for him.
For him and AC Green to come on a private
breakout. This guy
did. He's telling me
Green.
The out counts. But the point is
the man telling me all this shit.
The whole time, I know,
yo, Fendi, I know he's,
I know he's my man, he's filthy wits.
But the shit he was telling me,
I could not believe, right?
So one day it's his wife's birthday
and he says, yo, we're throwing
his wife is named Nicole.
Joe Bentley, his wife is named Nicole.
So he says, yo, we're throwing
her birthday party in my other house
up and like where Trump lives,
Palm Beach or some shit.
We pull up.
This shit got white horses.
The guy had too much money.
Right?
I go with the terrorist squad.
It's me, Wemmy, Pistow.
This is why I got witnesses with this one.
We go in there.
O.J. Simpson is in the house.
So Remy and Pistu start smoking blunts with them.
They're having the best time with OJ. Simpson.
Oh, J. was smoking?
Smoking blunts with Remy and Pistel, right?
Remy says she even got a picture of that, right?
So I go like, these murder two people.
Smoking blunts is easy.
Yeah.
You're right.
You're absolutely.
The moral to the story is,
When they came down to cut the cake,
happy birthday Nicole.
Joe Bentley puts the machete in OJ's hand.
He said, you did it, nigga, you did it.
And OJ started chasing him around the house with the fucking knife.
Somebody got, y'all got to get an animator and turn these stories.
No, I'm telling it.
No, no, shout out to Mr. Commodore.
That's what we need.
Mr. Commodore just already started.
You seen the shit he did?
He did like when I robbed the gym.
He played it over.
He's white-faced.
with blonde hair, fat belly out.
He's doing the Charlie Murphy.
But listen to what I'm saying.
OJ starts chasing him around the house with the knife.
You say, you did it, man.
You did it.
The fucking...
Who would be the O.J. Simpson of 2025?
If somebody killed their wife or something like that.
What the fuck is he talking about?
Who would stop TV?
What are you talking about?
Who would stop TV?
If they was in the white bronco chasing them,
they might allegedly kill their wife.
In 2025, who's the celebrity?
Any celebrity.
Any, no.
No, that's murder and fame.
So you think any celebrity would have the TV going crazy?
Yeah.
So you ain't got one pick.
O.J. wasn't even a big celebrity when that shit happened.
He just was O.J.
My pick is Tiger Woods.
because you got a white girl.
It got to be a white girl, right,
to make this shit go crazy.
And the white people.
Where did this come from?
I thought he had a question for you.
I do.
Here's the question.
The question is, I was setting them up.
Who's the OJ of this?
Hey, 2025 as a celebrity,
did some, allegedly did some shit like that.
Who would every channel turn on to?
Anybody that killed two people?
But when you say that element,
Now you're talking about the white girl
Does it have to be that element?
No, I'm just thinking about how crazy it can get.
Will Smith.
From Slap to Murder.
Will Smith running is crazy.
Oh, no.
And Jazzy Jeff is driving.
And he got the orgs called.
You see where I'm out?
He's DJing while he's driving.
And as he's driving, it's in West Philadelphia,
You're born and raised.
Oh.
Because I'm thinking Tiger Boys got the white wife.
He's golf.
The white people watch golfing.
Because the white people love OJ.
That's what made it so crazy.
Right?
Yeah.
But it's 2025.
Black men murdering white women don't have the same cachet.
Yeah.
Yo, the views of this ain't.
Yo, this is out of control.
Let me tell you one of the funniest stories.
I never heard.
This thing is flirting with the legend.
the Mike Tyson and Eve
at the awards
and you was like,
yo, you gotta take the bass out of the voice.
Chill, Mike, chat.
Dad shit.
I told him that story.
I don't know that story.
One day Mike was talking crazy to Eve.
Like what crazy?
Out of this world rate.
Picture out, eat your kids
and out fucking your ass thing.
Not like that.
Not like that, but...
Yeah, no, he was saying...
What happened?
Mike and Ray.
taking that crazy shit to him.
And you think you thought you're going to fuck you up.
Instead of, you know, when you see something.
You thought he was going to fuck you up?
Listen.
Listen to the story.
You know when you see something and you say something in your mind,
he was doing that, but it wasn't in his mind.
He was just, whatever he was thinking, he was saying it.
And me, Stows and Luch is like,
somebody got to, somebody got to be the crash dummy.
Then we got a hawk, my.
Somebody got to get their whole face broke and then we're going to halt them out of that.
Sean Don.
We did 21st fingers about 20 million times.
Nobody wanted to take the first hit.
Mike was telling her that crazy shit.
I want to tell you, I want to, we were saying that crazy shit to it.
And we like, you know, he did that to Remy.
But we was in his house.
That's after she shot the girl before.
That's before she alleged, that's before she alleged shot the girl.
During the time he went to his house, he opened the door, ass naked.
Grand jury, she can't do the time.
He opened the door, ass naked.
I was like, your mic.
No, no, I see your mic.
You're all right.
He's doing that.
Yo, you got to have heart to tell Mike Jason, like,
yo, my man, throw the towel on, man.
And I'm with some allegedly...
You got his house, though.
Yeah.
I'm with some alleged.
He was like, yo, Joe, you know, this is the boxes.
You know, my man, you got to stop.
Then we're going to sign.
And the type of things he was telling Remby, Ma, I felt pussy if I didn't, like, address it.
Like, I had to be like, yo, Mike.
Oh, that might have to be around the same time.
Mike saw some horny demon shit.
He was losing his fucking mind.
He was fucking out.
Yo!
Mike is crazy.
He was like, yo, Joe, you know, he showed me a brand new bends.
It was like a five hundred.
Some brand new shit never drove.
He was like, you just leave her here.
You got the best.
You know, the shit was crazy.
Like, I was like, yo, my man.
Just leave her head.
Yeah, like, some terrorist shit.
When he was looking at me,
Remy's eyes looked at me, her eyes open so big.
She was like, nigger, you better not leave me in this fucking place.
I think her brother was with us, too.
Everybody was looking like, yo, like,
we're going to have to, like, pound Mike Tyson out.
We have no pause, no choice.
We're going to have to, like, it's nothing we can do.
Like, he was like, yo, showed us the brand new band.
Shit was like 150, 200.
Nobody even had that shit right there.
We should still have the stick to it.
He was like, ah, we, she got to go with us, Mike.
She didn't know, that shit was crazy.
I was in the studio, I was big, though.
For real, I just always wanted to ask you.
It was a nigga.
He had ball.
He won't.
He never wrote it in studio.
He wrote some time.
I got it.
He wrote no papers.
I have a half of, I have like a quarter of smoking line optimos.
That verse, I got the yellow paper.
Can I buy that?
Hell, hell no.
Yo, I can't lie to you.
I never said that.
I'm just serious.
No.
My kids birthday.
Look at that.
Look at that.
Look at that.
You got some of pun?
Don't tell me you got some of pun.
He said it first.
I got it.
I was with Biggie when he did hypnotize.
Look at that.
What?
No, paper.
I was with Biggie's studio?
No, Bigger rights on this studio with Biggie Sports when he didn't epitop.
Somebody got a whole three verses of them written because even the shit I got is only a little bars than the rest.
I seen him.
I never, by the way.
Let me call.
Let me take, let me take on.
You don't want me to get it off.
That was my shit right there, too.
Yeah, that's a last day.
Listen, you go to this store.
That 1800s, just fast you looking, guys.
We did last days.
Yeah, yo, we still in them.
hood. So we in a, we in the hood selling crap. They call us, yo, I got to come to Daddy's
house to get on big out. We still got joints on us. We go to, we used to me and Daddy's house
with packs on. Yeah. But season them got fendie sweaters and all that, Chris now. We got arm and suits
with packs on. Oh, shit. Like he's, we won't be like them nigs. But anyway, we did. This day,
we, we on a block, so we bring like three, four of our niggas with us to get there big,
Cole Mafia is there.
Big got Branson,
and he got the liquid hay sometimes.
Oh, the weed Branson.
Branson,
yeah, shout out to Branson.
He got a couple of mayonnaise jars of Branson,
and he used to sometime was a rare occasion
and he'd get this liquid hash.
That you got to put it on your fingers,
smear it on the blunt first.
Oh, he was fucking with the hot she's back then, big?
It's liquid.
Pee-N-Lade.
Now, what's right he was writing them balls?
We're doing the verses.
We find out the beat is from havoc.
Biggs is hype.
We're writing this shit.
everybody lay their verse
that niggas is high
niggas is knocked
everybody in the whole studio
is fucking cloud 77
half bitch
as niggas is in a deep slumber
be I
yo let me go away and do my
nigger went and he was
on a stool but he was
his leg was still
dropped that shit
and woke everybody up like they gave
smelling salt
it's
distract superhero
shit right there bro
if you know
on life after death, it's not that much features.
Yeah, it wasn't.
Young locks, they'd be featured on there.
That was a nice accomplishment.
Man, Denny should have that nigga bulletproof, man.
I still say that.
Biggie, my favorite rap are old.
I'll be fighting over big.
That's my favorite.
That nigga shouldn't have been in Cali.
So, niggas always look at it like that.
No disrespect to no.
See, that shouldn't have been to Cali.
Just got to keep it.
No, no, no.
Save it for your show.
What?
Save it for what?
No, no.
I'm listening on 12.
No, no, it's a good thing to talk about.
That was our first time ever in L.A.
I was with him.
He was with him.
He was smiling.
He was happy to beat it.
It's not one of them.
I'm seeing all these shits on the ground.
I'm saying shit.
Puff made him go there.
He wanted to beat it.
He was happy.
He was happier than I haven't seen him.
At Daddy's house over there.
Little C's told us the same thing.
Artie.
Listen, I know you get mad.
Listen, I don't get to keep it right.
You got to let me talk.
You'll say you a hitchman story.
Let me see.
save my Piaz.
Oh, I got you, I got you.
Down to the party that you see,
the last picture with the cane,
the thing, him, Stevie J. Puff,
we in there, we was mad.
I don't know what son happened with Puff.
We was over there ice grill.
We went over to him in that picture,
you see, with the shades of the king.
Him, shake that shit off,
he told us.
It was my single release.
Whatever's going on with Ditty,
we handled it when we get back home.
Here goes so Chris style or Don Pee,
whatever was the thing.
It was like two.
Two ounces.
Say, go over there.
Shit, smile, meag.
Shake that shit, make you.
Shake that shit off me at my single.
And that was the last shit he ever said to the everybody left, went to the party.
Then that's when that shit happened next time.
What I could say to you is, well, Park passed already.
Why would you have him in L.A.?
That's all I'm saying.
Park was dead already.
You know the beef is.
Listen, let's keep.
It's a hard thing to say because I've seen him.
He was happy like Chris.
He wasn't.
He wasn't like they come.
They were going to kill.
That nigga was like
He was chilling
I understand
But I just
In my mind
When I look at hip-
Because we get to look at it
Now we get to look at being a little older
Now we're older
Near that shit
So y'all don't agree
But pot just died
No when we look at it now
Yeah you're right
He shouldn't have been over there
But what they're trying to say
What him and Little C
said on here
He wanted to be there
It ain't like we thinking
But forced the nigger to go
They said he wanted to be there.
It was negligent.
I'd be each his own bottle of 1800.
If I didn't speak to it.
I spoke to him.
I seen him.
He told us with it.
I mean, he told me, I see it.
If I didn't, even yeah, I peep with Yale, because I love that, Nick.
It crushed me.
My first time in L.A.
B.I. shot.
I still had a beep, but my mind's beeping me.
The shit is.
Fags.
That's crazy.
I ain't even know you was this.
It's all way down full nabs, but it's my mind's cool.
Because she know you with big.
Of course, of course.
That shit drug, when I go down that block, when I go to that light to this day, I fucking shake.
But I seen, I spoke, I was next to him.
He was fucking.
He was, he wasn't, he didn't seem like he was forced to be there.
He was one of the happiest I actually ever seen him in life over there.
See, one of the reason why I'm so passionate about it, because I look at it, like, rappers are not.
But they took one of our fucking hell.
Rappers are not superheroes no more.
Now street niggas are, or shooters are, skim is hard.
Rappers are.
So when we came up, niggas were super, super heroes, big Elibonics,
Vajol, jealous ones in view, y'all dropping.
And no disrespect to ditty, but no more shiny suits.
Remember when y'all niggas were from that era to that, ever that.
It was crazy.
Summer Jam, Jay Winnaz.
You know what I'm saying?
Ether.
We love the beef.
So when you look at Tupac and Big, that was like one of the most biggest beefs we knew.
Like, I'm never being by the radio and waiting for, I think Flex played it first.
When Big played, who shot you?
And me motherfuckers be like,
yo, that's not a disc record.
I'd be like, what?
In my mind, when I was a nobody,
I'm coming from Jamaica Avenue down God Brewer.
And I'm like, oh, I'm waiting.
Near the radio to hear, who shot you?
And I'm like, oh, this shit is hard.
Who shot you?
I remember when that shit dropped,
records was exclusive.
One DJ are having.
Y'all niggas are dropped.
Maybe one DJ or two DJs are having.
You know what I'm saying?
So let's not act like in the rap game
we don't like beat.
Because just, just now.
Oh, it's been from since the beginning of the time.
We love it.
K-R-S-1, the FECC shit.
Who will be in the world deep.
Biggest start dying.
It's always been peace.
That's when it gets fucked up.
That's when it gets fucked up.
The difference is, let me tell you the difference is.
So you said hip-hop police, right?
Mm-hmm.
So hip-hop police, yeah, they want to put 50 in jail.
But the bulletin board don't got 50.
They got you, your best friends.
Of course.
You got the niggas.
They be with y'all, the this, this, that.
And they're waiting for them to make the mistake to run that RICO.
Of course.
Right.
So you got to understand that it's the entourage.
You understand?
They feel like they're impressing you.
Y'all'm going to go pop this.
You know how many times I had to talk people off the cliff,
like guys crying for me like, please, he's at the club right now,
Cherry Lounge.
Let me let him go.
I'm like, yo, bro, the whole world knows we have beef with this guy.
The planet, Earth, if you lay them out, then that's for life.
We would have been here 20 years later, like, you know he did it.
Like, the top five greatest hip-hop songs ever.
I'm going to let you set it off.
I'm going to let you set it off.
I hate it.
And, yo, artists, producers, stop getting fucking mad.
We love all of y'all.
It's more than five.
If we don't fucking pick that song or whatever,
it's more than five.
Y'all keep up popping shit.
Like, yo, stop.
I love all of y'all.
Y'all all are supposed to be the greatest of all time.
You're forcing me to do this.
He's going to pick five.
I'm going to pick five.
Don't, Rob Bates, do not call me and curse me out tomorrow.
When this shit drop.
You got the right to, because it takes two.
It takes two.
I try to get it.
It could be, you know what I'm saying?
It's millions of them, though.
I don't want to.
He's victimizing me.
making me do this.
That's right.
That's right.
Top five biggest hip-hop songs of all time.
You see why this is a bad thing?
Because it goes off your age.
I can say five in this.
Somebody, a new person did.
But it's okay.
That's not fair.
It's okay.
Our demographic is people are age, real hip-hop,
and then we got some young kids
who really want to know the real.
So the top five hip hop songs of all time
How the fuck am I supposed to know?
I don't know, but what you think
When you heard or you hear it and you just like
Yo, this is the biggest shit ever
See, I'm trying to think of when
Since I ever first heard hip hop to now
Oh now that's hard
Nothing but clustered.
No, that's hard
I'm drawing white noise
Why don't you go first?
Damn, you said this is your
This is shit type.
This is all you right here.
You go first.
I'll say hip hop, hooray, naughty by nature.
I'll say still Dre.
That's where it gets tricky.
I'll say, I'm just saying biggest hip-hop shit.
You get caught up?
Hold up.
Hold up.
You get caught up thinking.
I'll say New York,
Alicia Keys and Jay-Z
you fight
bouncing around years
oh you made it easier for me
I like this
because I could easily
but that's three
what are you at
three or four what three I said
what three I said
New York
hip-hop array
New York
Alicia Keys
and I think we got
the best New York
hip-hop record
now I'm just saying
name the five already crack
Hip-hop array
one the first
Hip hop-a-ray.
Huh?
Hip-op-O-Rae won the first Grammy, the first Grammy for the rap album for a rap album in 1926.
Look at that hip-hop fucking hooray.
Okay, I got hip-hop array.
I got, what was the second one I said?
Still Dre.
Right?
Um, you know, you hit them pianos, huh?
And then we got New York.
We got Hoving, two of the great.
songs of all time.
I like that.
He on two of the greatest songs of all time.
You're only on three, though.
You got two more.
Biggie hypnotize.
Biggie hypnotize.
Right?
And fuck it.
I'll go cliche.
I'll go Tupac Dear Mama.
Wow.
I need a...
I'm not...
You did all...
There was his old fucking top test.
songs. I can't be madden.
You're talking about
of all times, right?
Yeah. Do you think I just
hit a certain age group? There's no
way to be right or wrong.
I think those songs is fucking. That's
exactly the point. There's no way to be
right or wrong. So
my people don't call me
and curse me out. Every time I do
a producer, every time I do it is,
every time I do it at, they want
to fucking kill me. Like,
yo, I love everybody, man.
but I'm just telling you hip hop parade.
Oh, hey, oh, I'm talking about hypnotize.
New York.
This niggins fucking me up.
I'm talking about the biggest shit.
He fucked me up.
I don't know, man.
Let me say nobody take nothing because I don't like doing these.
So I'm on y'all side, but y'all call him and flip on them
and everybody called crack.
This is I did.
But if I got to give you five,
I can't.
And I'm going to try.
One of them got to be something from Snoop.
What?
Gin and juice or the G thing
or one of them shit is definitely one of.
Snoop and Dre together got one of them.
I don't know which one take your pick.
That's one.
Count that as one.
Right?
Now.
Run DMC, king of rock.
Oh, I got to be one
because that's one of the first songs I've ever heard in my life.
Now, that's what's set it off.
I'm up to three.
Now, the other one was,
you got to make your own one.
I gave you Dre and Snoop is one.
One of these shits is one.
I'm cheating, but I got, he's cheating.
He's cheating.
He ain't go specific with it.
I said gin and juice or jeet thing.
Those is you take your back
One
Two
Two and to that fall
That's two
Of all times
We got to clock the timer
Yeah because this is it
Y'all Jeter man
This shit
You got I mean what else
I mean
You got a whole bunch
X got one too
I don't know which one it is
Look.
That's the stop, drop,
shed them off on them up that.
What you call them is bigger than that?
What?
It'll make me lose my mind.
Y'all going to make me those ass.
That shit rips out the...
Up in here.
That shit rips out and screws it.
Y'all going to make me go all out.
You know what's crazy with that song?
The hook is so top 40.
The verses is disres, the verses is saying about crazy and shit.
Oh, yeah, what it is.
Now, suck my dick.
When there one thing, gun thing.
Like, yo, you know, he's going crazy.
Verses is great.
You know, we had a thing.
Let me shout out Cool and Dre.
We had a thing.
We would make, we would kill him on the verse and make them dance on the hook.
We would always do that.
You got to stop giving the formulas out.
Don't tell these people that.
When I'm up to three or four, man.
You're up to three?
TMA.
Yeah.
Now I'm up to four.
Y'all going to make me lose my mind.
Oh, I'm leaving shit out.
I think one of the, see, I, don't hold me,
don't quote me, boy, because I ain't said shit.
NWA got one too, they didn't pick it.
Fuck the police.
If you're never one you want, that's one.
NWA, I'm just, they got one.
Biggest of all time, great.
NWA one, you don't question my, it's NWA.
Count is bigger than fuck the police?
That's why I just give you NWA.
They got one of them, one of them shit
they got bigger than...
I got switched demographed.
I sit alone in my four-corner.
That's it, man.
I got millions or more,
but I just had to be diverse with my picks.
I got the whole production there and singing that in the back.
Listen, man, I was hot.
I was in the street hustling, and my brother told Montana pull up in the red truck, the Wrangler truck.
He looked at me.
I swear to God, this is like a movie.
He pulled over.
I'm on the block watching the shit.
I don't want to say what block, but I'm on the block watching.
And he ran up to me and his face, it looked like a movie.
This is my best friend, rest of the piece, and he running like, he had to tell me something crazy.
So I'm like, yo, tune, what's up?
You say, yo, come here.
Come here, please, come here.
And the man pressed play.
Because he had the system.
Boom, bum, bum, bum, bum.
I sit alone in my fork on the room staring at.
We started dancing around this truck.
When they played my mind's playing tricks on me, dancing around it.
Like, yo, this shit is great.
And every drug dealer felt like paranoid.
You felt like, I took the feds everywhere I go.
That's why I'm paranoid.
Like, everybody living that life.
You know.
That was one of them ones.
Nah.
So let me get Jada's, what, did you write down, Jada's Five?
Look, it ain't, it's other songs bigger than mine than his.
One?
We're just saying, he says some big.
50, go, go is one of the biggest songs I have me.
Go, go.
What, in the club?
50 is your birthday.
It ain't nobody in the world
that don't know that song.
You could go,
niggies that can't talk,
know how to sing it.
I'm just saying,
I agree with you with that.
You know what I'm saying?
With the 50 cent,
damn, that was a good one.
That should have made some shit, right?
Yeah, that shit did.
Nah, nah, it's your birthday.
That's the cheat code.
You gotta be able to talk
and you can sing that.
That's the cheeco.
But what did we do?
What did I pick?
What Jay to pick on the top?
Bob.
So Jada just ran down.
It was either you had, let's go boy, King of Rock, I run DMC.
Pick a snooper, Dre, G-thing, or I think G-thing would be the one.
Maude's playing tricks on me, DMX, up in here, and then NWA, fuck the police, or...
Paul Compton.
What did I pick?
New York.
Yo, you got to stop.
No, you shoot it by a lady.
That's one of my favorite.
That's one of my favorite songs.
You kidding me.
Yo, your man violating my shit right here.
We both picked some main shit.
Tater be on that bullshit.
He threw the hoodie over.
He's like, dude, y'all.
He over here and picking, I stand alone in the fork on the room with up.
For when I don't got one.
Those are missiles.
Those are.
Hipokor Ray, Biggie Huttmatized, Snoop Dogg.
I said Still Dre.
I went Still Dre.
And then I went
Was Tupac
Dear Mama
That was great
Those is great
Hove give it to me
It's one of them
Shish too
They know that shit
Everywhere
Any way you could go on
With human beings
And then we're gonna both agree
Honorary
Should be in there
Is the in the club
It's mad people
In the club is definitely
In the club is like
The biggest disrespect
Ever created
You know
We start disrespect
and we go do-toom, do-to-to-to-to-d-d-d-d-d-d-.
Yeah, bus is that.
What the dilly's the-sat-a-what-dele-y-old, yo.
There's a lot of people supposed to be on me.
A baby, if you give it to me, I'll give it to you.
You know what I want.
You know I got it.
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What's up with that conversation
you had with pushing?
Brutiful.
See?
I want to hear about it.
Beautiful.
I want to know what's going on.
You know, I come from a universal
man-speaking language, right?
If I say to you, kiss,
yo, giant don't call me back.
The minute you're supposed to see Giants,
you're supposed to say, oh, giant,
why don't you call them back?
But if I say to kiss,
yo, between me and you,
or off the record
Giant don't call me back
the minute you see John
you gotta close your mouth
but I bring up that conversation
this is
from 4 o'clock in the morning
to 2 o'clock in the afternoon
I'm the sharpest you can ever speak to
I'm the sharpest
like I'm up in the morning
I'm doing push-ups I'm running
I'm trying to get my life together
like I'm sharp
he calls me since the clock of the morning
so I remember this conversation
to the teeth
to the tea
and he called me
and he was the first time
I ever seen
Puscher all these years
like kind of have emotions
like he was like
yo how our boy did that
so in case you don't know
what I'm talking about
Rale picked
he said both
on drink
quick time with slime
Drake or Pusherty
he said both
Pusher called me
and was like
yo it was the first time
I ever heard
Pusher like raise his voice
he was like
yo you think 40
from UVO
would have said the same
and I'm just sitting there
So when I bring up this conversation with Puscher,
I'm bringing this up in honor.
I'm like, yo, that was honorable that he shared that with me.
I wasn't trying to.
So what I'm trying to say is when that conversation happened,
later on in that conversation, there was things that I brought up.
And I said, it's off the record.
This is off the record.
Or this is between me and you.
Because let's just talk about what we were talking about.
Puscher, who is famous, called Norrie, who is famous,
about a producer, Farrell,
who is arguably more famous than both of us, right,
about a conversation with one of the most famous people on the planet.
Drake!
And this all happened on drink chairs.
So I assumed that this part of the conversation wasn't off the record
because we later on addressed that and said,
like I said, I'm sharp from 3 to 2 p.m.
I'm the sharpest in the world.
I remember this shit verbatim.
He never said that.
So if I blew that up,
As a man, my bad.
If I blew that up.
But I didn't think I did.
Like, at the end of the day, no matter what, you're media now.
I got to tell you that.
Joe, hold on, off the record.
Like, I just told you about the smoke champ shit.
You see how you used you on me?
No, you see that on it.
You see what the fuck.
That was a person who's shit.
Oh, man.
I knew it was something weirdly.
No, no.
That was hard.
That was hard.
He did his job.
He did his job.
That's exactly what he's supposed.
I'm trying to get this guy
to $100 million.
Yeah, yeah.
I've never seen the guy I'm trying to get
to $100 million.
No, you're doing your job.
That's how we're going to get the $100 million.
You're doing your job? I'm seeing it.
I'm smoke, drink, drink.
I'm trying to do all this before.
So hold on, let me finish.
So let me finish.
So with Pusha, like push her malice,
you know, I knew them since they called him
Territ, Terrence.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's massive terror.
This is my family.
So, you know, they laughed it off.
you know what I send him a text like
you know I'm coming back
you know what I'm saying like that type of shit
but let me let me make this clear
that's my family
they got the best album right now
I still I'm still working out to it
I was offended that he said I cloud chased
when he said everyone he said
you know it's album time
you know everyone wants to clickbait
I just want to address that part
that part I don't need clickbait
they come every month
my work is good it speaks for itself
It speaks for itself.
I don't have to clickbait.
So that part, I want to address it.
But other than that, if I in any way, shape, form of fashion,
blew up something that I wasn't supposed to blow up.
As a man, I apologize.
You're having to say, I'm a real one.
But I don't think I did.
Now, I can say to the two people that still believe I'm not cap,
by who thinks I'm real, I've had two.
I'm so cap a lot now.
You should be captain
I'm capped with
broken legs
They're fucking me up
You're not catching this shit
You are not catching
I'm catching everything
And you represent
They're fucking
They're texting
Every time you do like this
They're like yeah
Jada got our back
He no joke capping
I'm a nigga line again this
But for the two people
The 1% of America
I've had so many deep
conversations with Norie
That you can't even believe
He has never repeated
I've never repeated.
I have to say with Norley.
Thank you.
What I can say is if he knew he couldn't say that, he wouldn't do that.
You know, that's, that, I've had too many conversations.
Don't know what conversations.
I want to tell, I want to say what else.
Like, this was.
Can we say what else?
No, no, definitely.
You know, no, we ain't it.
This is most of the time.
We try to fix it.
Every time we try to fix, though.
He tried to rip it back off.
Yeah.
You know, listen, now's the time.
Yeah.
To really get this over with one shot to you.
That's what he did.
What's your say?
Yeah.
We've had conversations in 20 years and 20 years.
This is our deep conversation.
Like, sometimes you don't realize the relationship you have with a person,
how long you know what a person to a person.
Like, I was in grinding.
I was on grinding.
I was on the remix and I'm in the video.
Like you said,
lean back.
So it's like,
if it's a misunderstanding,
I get it and I get
why he didn't call me
first because what I did
was publicly.
So he had to respond publicly.
So that's why I'm responding publicly.
At, you know, I...
But it's all love.
But at the end of the day,
that's not who I'm not a person
who chases clout.
I'm a person who has integrity.
I have a person who has integrity.
I have morals.
And I'm very, very creative.
I'm too creative to bite anybody else
that's there.
I've always been my own style.
I've always stayed in my own lane
because it's never been trafficked there.
But Norrie, let me ask you.
You understand?
Are you?
Fessions, before I even get to Mariah,
how, what was you and the staff?
Shout out to B. Cox.
Shout out to everybody.
What was, what kind of zone?
What did y'all set out to do?
Because I, if y'all just say,
yo, we about to cook up some shit and go diamond
and take over the whole, every piece of the world,
y'all accomplished that to the T.
Well, I don't think that's what y'all did.
No, not.
Well, I mean, you got, so we had 8701 first before confessions, right?
Shout out there.
I think that I would definitely.
Yeah, so, so 8701, we wrote, you got it bad, real.
So you got it bad, the success of you got it bad was just like,
was the beginning of it.
Like, it was like, okay, listen, we make, after you got a bad success,
we went back in the studio for confessions.
The mentality was that we had to finish off.
what we thought you got it bad did, right?
So, Usher was talking about a song,
like he felt like his relationship was going through this situation
and he wanted it to burn out, like, just let it burn out.
I'm going to have to go through the pain,
and he was telling me this.
And I couldn't really grasp what he was saying
because I had going through that type of situation.
But I was trying to, and I was trying to figure it out.
And he told me this, and then he left.
And I sat there for a minute and I sat thinking about him,
like, let it burn, let it burn.
And I kept saying, like, oh, okay, when it's feeling, like, nobody, you know, I started trying to figure out what the words were.
And then I got it.
And I called him back.
I said, I got it.
I got the hook.
So he came back to the studio, and we did let it burn first.
Right?
We did let it burn first.
And then he started saying he was going through this thing where he couldn't really work in Atlanta.
Let's go to L.A.
And I'm like, nah, here we go.
This is the bullshit.
I thought we was...
Everybody go through a phase.
You're thinking he going to block his own blessings, right?
I'm like, here we go.
I'm thinking about me, because I'm like a...
I want to be where I can grab all the records that I need.
Any ideas, it's all in my studio, right?
For me, as far as being creative,
I don't want to go nowhere because I know I'm going to forget something.
I'm going to leave somewhere.
I can't find something.
Yeah, right?
So he's like, let's go to L.A.
And I'm like, ah, shit, cool.
I'm going, we go to Brandon's way, and we get out there.
And my man that was with me, he was talking to me about girls and side girls and relationships and this, that and third.
And I just kept saying, that's, you just, that's all bad.
Like, everything you're talking about is all bad.
And Usher came to the studio, and we started talking about some things, but then he left.
And all I kept, remember, he was like, yo, I, I, I, I,
Let's come back tomorrow.
And I was like, man, no, I can't let L.A. beat me.
I get like a writer's block.
I feel like I got a writer's block, basically.
And, you know, it's really, really bothering me
because I already felt like it was going to happen
when I got to L.A.
Not to cut you off.
That happens to me in L.A.
I can't just go there and go straight to the studio.
I got to cry.
I got to be, I got some shit got to happen.
I don't got the same fluid.
in the studio in L.A. that I got anywhere else.
And I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is.
It takes a while for me to get, I can't just go there and be kiss off the rip.
I never really successfully wrote in L.A.
Never.
Me, myself. Never hit one out the park in L.A. Yeah.
Like, you know, I wrote shit there, but it wasn't.
Blackout was recorded in L.A. on X album.
This is it right here, man.
That's probably one.
No, he was recording out there.
I'm talking about for me, man, one of X album is the best I was able to.
So, yeah, so I can, I'm going through this thing and I'm struggling.
So I'm like, I told an engineer, give me a copy of the beat.
We made the beat, me because he made the beat.
And I think, I know the beat, right?
I just don't, I ain't got the words.
I can't figure it out.
And I, and I'm thinking about saying stuff that I don't think Usher's going to want to say, right?
So I'm thinking like that, he ain't going to want to do this because this ain't what his life is, right?
He ain't going through this.
So I'm like, but that's what I want to say, but I'm thinking like, this ain't going to work.
So I take the beat and I get in the car.
And I'm getting in the car, I'm riding down Melrose.
And I'm thinking like, I swear I knew that.
I'm thinking, like, shit, I ain't got the words.
I can't.
So I started thinking about usual suspect, right?
Kaiser Sojay was in the jail
He ain't had the words for the story
He just started looking for the words on the board
And try to create the story
So I'm like, I'm gonna try this
And that's what I've started doing
I'm looking at signs on mailroads
It's all kind of shit going
Right, so I get to the light
I think on third
And the Beverly Sun is in front of me
And that's when I say
Every time I was in LA
I was with my ex-girlfriend
Every time she called me
I told him, gravy I'm working, no
I was out doing my work
I was hand in the Beverly Center
like, man, not giving the damn
who sees me. And I'm thinking like, oh,
and I'm just grabbing this. Everything I see,
I would have never said the Beverly Sun in that song
if the Beverly Center wasn't in front of me.
I'm trying to do the Kaiser Soze shit, right?
So as I get through that verse,
I'm like, I'm like, I got it.
And so everything is everything
I've been doing is all bad. I got a chick on the side
with a crib and the ride up and telling you some into lies.
Ain't nothing good. It's all bad.
I just want to confess.
And that's where confessions came from
When me saying, I just want to confess
All of this shit that I've been doing is bad
And we ain't have confessions
That if I wouldn't have said
That I want to confess to you
Everything that I've been doing is bad
So it's like my time I'm saying
This gonna be the first R&B record
Where the nigger actually tell a girl
Fuck it
Yeah
You ain't got even ass
Yeah, I'm fucking her
This is what I'm doing
I got a crib on the side
A chick on the side
With a crib on the ride up
I'm telling you so many lies
It ain't nothing good.
It's all bad.
I ain't always going.
I just felt like...
That song feels so good to this day.
Oh, bad.
So that was the beginning, right?
That was the beginning.
I had to drive all the way to Malibu
because everybody had left the studio
and I couldn't record.
I had to remember.
I had to memorize all of this.
Yeah, I had to keep going, right?
So the next day, it's like,
we got to hurry and get to the studio.
So I put it down.
So you ain't write it down.
No.
I'm driving and writing in my head.
I forget too much.
So we get back.
we do this we do all bad and then mark pitch like what happened after you know after this
situation who what what happened with the chick on the side then it hit me it's like oh damn
she got pregnant this is like my real life right the chick on the side get pregnant i know this
story like i really know this story i ain't got to write this right so that's when we're like okay
i'm like shit was this going to be part two and part two became these on my confession
And if we wouldn't have got to that, if we wouldn't have it did.
So we did a part two of a song that never even came out.
Wow.
So that was part two to the part one.
That was the response.
Yeah.
And you ain't even do the first one.
Well, we did it, but it didn't come out.
LA didn't put all bad on the first.
He didn't put it on the album.
He put it on the, you know, me on the repackage.
You know, you name it some big names, right?
So you're saying L.A. Reid.
You're saying Mark Pitts.
Who decides what comes on the album?
L.A.
I mean, you know, at that time,
Ariston, you know, that was his...
He'd be like, I want this, I want this.
You're the last shot, cool.
That's his job.
That's what he's thing.
And that was his space.
Like, L.A., you know, putting the albums together, that was his space.
I just saw, like, a old interview with R. Kelly,
and he said he would do, like, a hundred songs
and listen to all of them and pick out the 12 on the album.
Like, you know how hard that shit had to be?
Yeah.
To, like...
There's probably some gems left on the floor, right?
But that's what I'm saying.
Like, I never even understood why L.A. didn't even put both versions.
He didn't want, he ain't put it all bad.
And I'm like, you know, as crazy is that people are going to listen to this
and they're hearing the second story, they don't even know where it came from.
But I couldn't figure, I couldn't figure out how it worked.
Yeah, it was.
It was like crazy genius.
Yeah.
So that was the beginning of confessions.
I think big pun.
Right.
If you think about it, though, J.D., that's how movies.
Sometimes they make you watch the movie back.
Yeah.
That's a fact.
Yeah.
You know, in my Kadesh, they got a little man.
Have you ever seen the little men like this?
Come on, man.
We have one in Jimmy's.
Come on, dog.
Yo, I'm telling you the truth.
Oh, crack.
Has anybody here?
Has anybody...
Somebody helped me.
He said it's a man, this...
Listen, our fans in Morocco.
French Montana knows them.
French Montana's from Morocco.
I told him he knows him.
It's a man this little.
I need you out to see how small he's saying.
Let me his face, son of you.
What size organs do he got?
Yo, give me this shit.
I promise you.
This shit, the rewinded box.
Hold up.
No.
Yo, come on.
You know, come on.
Definitely the Kiss Cafe.
Let me get the Kiss Cafe.
Let me get the Kiss Cafe.
Listen, let me tell you something.
He's seen a human being.
This man will be ducking behind.
this shit in real
human life. It's a grown man.
It's not even...
Yo, listen. He's a grown man
with a suit. Ladies and gentlemen.
A suit!
No, no. No. No.
No. No. No. No. Oh, I'm capping.
Go to my cadace.
Yo, look him up.
He just... Yeah.
I promise you.
He said he got a suit on.
Yo, we had a Dominican.
Come on. We had a Dominican named Nelson
that passed away, rest and peace.
He used to come to Jimmy's Bronx Cafe.
The man was down.
this big.
Come on.
Yo, I'm telling you.
Yo, listen.
He's definitely not big than the Kiss Cap thing.
I've been to Carnivus. I've been to mad shit.
Oh, no, no, no.
There's nobody was this big, though.
Yo, there's a little man in Morocco.
He's still alive in Makadash.
Okay, we want y'all to send us pictures to the Joe and Jay to Instagram because
y'all be thinking I'm capping.
He won't be hiding behind this shit.
Nah, come on, man.
This is at least three, four.
of his body.
Yeah, come on,
dog,
please.
There's no way.
What's that sneaking?
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm not a myth.
I am not a myth.
Al-a-hambhal-a-law.
I am not a myth.
This guy's killing.
Let's see a French pick-up.
He said, he got hide.
Yo, I bet you they sent it to us.
Sorry,
but the person you called.
French ain't pick up.
Let me tell you something.
I'll tell you, we had a Dominican one named Nelson.
He passed away.
Yo.
He used to be a Jimmy's...
He jumped from the table to the chair to the disc.
You never seen it?
I'm not violating.
In no way.
Can anybody get us a picture of Nelson?
He's going to...
Nelson will be found.
You guys are going to make sure I'm not capping.
The guy who does the clips,
you're going to find pictures of Nelson.
You're going to find pictures of the man
in the Macaradet.
Because they say I'll be capping.
There's a little man.
I can't take it.
Well, I've never seen a little woman like that, right?
I've seen a little man like that.
I've never seen a woman like that.
How big is he?
He's hiding beyond this shit.
Yo, what?
Yo.
Yo, listen.
I need him.
Listen.
I need an emily.
I need, yo, do it.
He's hiding.
His face might just go like peek.
over this shit like,
Yo.
It's a little man
with a suit.
Yo.
Yo, dog.
He's killed me.
Rewind it 10,
CVS, Sally Beauty,
go get it.
A little man with a soup.
Kiss Cafe.
Go get your stuff.
Kiss Cafe.
All right, you think I'm lying.
Nah.
All right.
I'm just trying to tell you.
Let me tell you something.
All the people
say shit for clickbait,
content,
shit like that.
I say facts.
All the time.
And when we do the clip,
you're going to see the little
man. Two of them. I know a Dominican
one Nelson. He passed
away, rest in peace. Rest in peace
to Nelson, man. But the other
man... We got to get the... When we...
From Morocco is alive. And
French knows him.
French Montana knows him. You got kids?
I don't know.
Yo, come on. I'm not going to go to here with you.
I'm sure he got a girl. They think
he's cute and all that. The man's a little
scrungy. Yo, yo. Yo, what's
the toy they selling over and out now? For the
girls, everybody's getting them toys.
The boo-boo.
La-boo.
The boobo.
Yeah.
The girl, women can have her own labubo.
The man.
The man, y'all, let me tell you.
The picture surfaces of this.
No, no, it's happening.
I'm not lying to you.
Nelson?
You found Nelson.
Who you found?
From Morocco?
Let me see.
We got him.
We got him, bro.
No.
I tell you, I don't cap, man.
I'm not fucking capping,
bro.
I got to see.
No.
Yo, kiss.
I don't let you look at him.
Kiss, I am not.
Look at my man.
Oh shit.
Oh, fucking shit.
Look at my man.
Yo, look.
Look at him sitting on a watermelon.
Look at this shit.
Oh, I told you.
This is my guy.
I'm not lying to you.
This is my guy.
He's on a watermelon.
He ain't bigger than a watermelon.
Look at this shit.
I told you.
Kiss, I told you.
But he ain't...
No, no, he's puny.
Put the Kiss Cafe.
That's shit half his body, bro.
No.
He's on a watermelon like that's a building.
He's...
Do it?
Y'all, come on, Kiss.
You're trying violent.
Do you let this guy?
I know him from Makadesh.
He's up...
How big is he for real?
He'll hop.
Like, he'll hop from the table to the chair, hop down.
You help him.
You better than never say my brother's cap.
The No Cap Award.
You seen this shit?
With Maca.
The old cap award goes to crack.
Yo, dog.
That's a man.
You know, look at him.
He's sitting on a watermelon.
It's crazy, you.
I try to tell you.
He's a grown man.
He's a man.
A grown man be wearing suits and shit.
Yo, wait.
He do got a little button up on.
He got a little polo button up.
Look at the little sneakers, man.
You ain't,
You know, this thing's crazy.
I've been around the world.
I'm trying to tell you.
Ladies and gentlemen, I don't want to hit nothing.
I don't want to hit nothing.
He fouled the little guy.
Yo, but look at the pineapple.
I need Nelson.
Half his body.
If you get Nelson.
No, Nelson is Dominican.
He died.
Look up Nelson.
Nelson is out there.
Nelson used to hang with us in the Bronx.
I'm telling you.
Yo, dog.
Yo, the pineapple.
You met him in Morocco?
Yeah.
French knows him.
That's it.
French knows him by name and everything.
When I tell French,
yo, you know the little guy, he'll say his name real quick.
That's why I called him.
Like, you know.
He's a grown man.
No, he's a grown man.
He ain't the small.
He ain't, ladies and gentlemen, he ain't this size, though.
What size is he?
The pillow?
Look at this guy.
He don't know.
The fucking pineapple was to his neck.
That's crazy.
How little is he?
His body is half of the pineapple.
God tried to tell you.
That boy be hot behind, behind Kiss Cafe.
He'd be like this.
I told you.
Oh, that's hard, man.
He made him.
It's real talk.
We got to put them on the screen.
Yo, that's crazy, though.
That's the illest.
Yo, is that crazy or not?
With the suit.
What kind of suit?
What kind of suits do you have?
Oh, hold on the suit.
Oh, look at the lady on him.
No, no, look, he got the suit.
Look, kiss.
Oh, he got the suit.
Yo, look at the lady on him.
He got his suit.
No, I'm dead ass.
Yeah, look at the cell.
Yo, look, he got the suit.
He'd be rocking.
suits, the bowtile, all this shit.
I can't take it.
I'm not lying.
Yo, we got to have an EMS on the side, man.
You got Nelson?
You found Nelson?
Yeah, come on, man.
Let me see Nelson.
I give up already.
He like that.
Who's bigger?
Get yourself a boost.
Yo, give yourself a boost moment.
You see you looking at Nelson?
Did you look at my other man that was sitting on the watermelon?
Who's alive?
My Kardashian is alive.
Nelson is passed away, right?
You see Nelson
How big is Nelson?
Same type shit, right?
Wow.
Let me see it.
Oh, you can't really see it.
Look.
This is Nelson.
Oh, shit.
Yo, and Nelson's a little taller
than my cadethe guy.
Yeah, he's a little taller.
He used to rock the T.S. chain
Jimmy's Blondefe, the big...
This guy, that's...
Yeah, I swear to God.
Two foot, two inches.
Two foot, two inches?
Who, Maccahress or Nelson?
Maconess is two foot, two inches.
That's my guy.
He'd be in the suits.
I'm telling you.
Nelson was on Leibetman?
What's this?
He was on some shit.
He's the littlest guy.
He passed away, though.
Nelson had girlfriends and everything.
I used to see him in the Dominican clubs.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm telling you.
Yeah, Nelson used to be in the Dominican clubs.
Yeah.
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