Joe and Jada - BEST OF OCTOBER | Allen Iverson & Common's Fat Joe stories, Mobb Deep taking Jada & Styles P's track, 50 Cent's debut & "I miss my Uncle George"

Episode Date: November 8, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss had an ICONIC October, featuring a star-studded lineup of Allen Iverson, Raekwon and Havoc, Ciara, The Alchemist and Hit-Boy, plus many more. Tune in to hear legendary stories and hilarious moments including Joe's "Uncle George" gaff trying to remember Bone Thugs-N-Harmony lyrics, Common confirming the story of Fat Joe saving his life during his beef with Ice Cube, Jadakiss learning that The Alchemist made Mobb Deep's "Win or Lose" with him and Styles P in mind, Allen Iverson's mom telling heartfelt stories from his childhood, and more top tier moments you can only get on Joe and Jada. 2:15 - "I miss my Uncle George" 15:30 - Hitmaka confronts Joe about "cock-diesel" 20:30 - Allen Iverson on his docuseries 32:15 - A.I. fact checks Joe's stories 39:30 - Mrs. Iverson takes the microphone 44:45 - Common on Joe saving his life 51:30 - Story behind "I Used To Love H.E.R." 58:15 - Common repping hip hop on the Oscars stage 1:10:00 - Reacting to Bad Bunny headlining the Super Bowl 1:35:00 - Jesse Williams' history of Black activism 1:51:15 - Jada finds out The Alchemist made "Win or Lose" for him & Styles P 2:08:50 - Ciara & Joe dance to "Low" [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] Joe and Jada now on Patreon All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Jeez, unit. We can get the drama, pop a nigga. Bo, boom, boom. That probably might be arguing to be one of the best debut. That's like up there with Snoop. 50 should is up there with doggy style, you ask me, for the East Coast, for the World Coast. It had the same kind of effect as doggy style.

Man, that shit was everywhere when it came out. So I'm thinking shit is semi-everywhere. Both of them shit was everywhere. Everywhere you could think of white people, everywhere, every commercial, every spring break, every, you open your door, your window, you saw that shit. It Richard Dodd-try and doggy style. Imagine you got beef with them shortly after that.

And they're playing that shit. We was beating up every DJ allegedly did not play. this shit. Yeah, the beef wasn't, the beef. When the niggies had beef, we 50, he was out to get rich as I try. Yeah, but we still caught the rest. It wouldn't work bad.

No, no. It was really bad. It was still the residue. It was the other album, man, piggy bank. Yeah, it was down there. Cool Dauphillard. Not a lot on the little.

Enough to be a high. Yeah, that was a different kind of forthfield. We don't play that. We don't play that. That shit was crazy. And when you create music, 50 cent was giving you like three songs in one song. Three different hit flows and hooks.

Yeah, it's just crazy. Bro, that album could have really been three albums, four albums. The way he was doing all that shit, Juno, we don't play around. He was like, yo, it was too easy for, I don't know what kind of zone he was in, but everything was too easy for me. He had the bars.

He had the beats. You felt like my back right now Was killing shit It's a difference There's a difference between street park bars at your leisure You can have a nice pop You come down

When we see them in the videos in the street bar You can jump out Or have a coconut It's different when you're in jail Doing bars in the bars I didn't know I did that Because that's what they did to him

He was trying to, like, compete with them. And then we ain't doing like Kim. Don't do that two times. Two times a fellow. You ain't doing bars like Jay to Kiss. Get out of here, man. The nigga doing, where he's going up like this shit, doing all type of shit. You ain't doing all that.

Don't stop. Please. Just because you did jail time don't mean you know how to do the, they don't know how you pedal the bite. I'm not. Don't do that. Jay Z, reasonable doubt. Crazy.

Crazy. he's shit crazy. He taught me, right? Because I was a street dude. What he told you? Man, I was a street dude, but I didn't really so much really get into like the business darn

drug dealer shit to like my second album. The first album was I stick you up, I smack you up, you know, all that type of shit. But that reasonable doubt showed me you could talk like like I could live my real life and music. I'm listening to his shit

and I felt like it was my life. I felt like, yo, you can rap about your life and music. So in videos, I'm wearing the army fatigues, but I'm going to my man's party with the sky blue suit on with the gaiters, with the this, this.

Now we can rap about it and put it in the video and do that. I felt like reasonable doubt did that for me. And I remember driving back and forth from New York to Miami just playing that one album back to back to back to back

that's another one right after Illmatic that kind of changed my life to where it's like all right if you're going to wrap this is where you need to be you need to talk more about your life you need to talk that shit

you need to that that pushed me more towards me being the Dawn Cartagena like publicly I was already the Dawn Cartagena behind the scene but publicly it said You can do this. And I don't know what the fuck.

Onyx's first album was, but them, too. They changed Fat Joe's whole life. Slim. Because I, I just, pick him up, yeah, one shot. I was like, oh. Back the fuck up. Onyx, unsung heroes. Some of the greatest music I ever heard was Onyx.

Sticky just sent me some. I didn't say it all that. Right now. 2025 he sent me I'm not saying I'm telling Are you listening to Beets?

They just sent me a song that's crazy last week Crazy Who had to pick beats Though the beat is crazy They knew how to pick beats

They had some meat One of them Onix I think is the second The beats On the second Onix album It's probably

To be some of the best beats They might be Trying to revisit Those shit's crazy You know Huh? Frayjo. Nobody write fat Joe Rhyms.

I've seen you, my brother. I love you. I'll see you on the video. He said this? Yeah, he said, you know, Joe, God, ghost writers, this and that. Yo, you're delusional. Nobody can write my life, write my rhymes,

nothing like that. And I love you, Frayjo. Frayjo's a good guy. I've just bigged you up on another level, but I've seen you the only person in history on a video talking about, yeah, Joe, we know. Joe got, please, brother, you got me fucked up,

37 years of doing this shit. I do this in my sleep, God. Go what I'm saying? Boy, Frayjo produced all that. Let me tell you something, he's a genius. Carolina, Herrera. Them guys, them guys was different, and they changed my life. So Frayjo, when you look at my interviews about you,

they always say you changed my life. Do. Documentary the game. Crazy. Is that an album? Game is the first rapper that if you didn't tell me what he says it a million times,

but if you didn't tell me he's from Compton, I would think he's from New York. He was the first. You know, the West Coast, they got their own sound. Heard he said he was the first rap, Compton nigger, with a yonkish flow.

Out of Bronx, a yonkish flow. Look it up. Compton, nigger, the Yonkers flow. I repeat. Still New York. Yonk is there.

And we agree. No, listen. I agree with him. Get out of it. Yo, what do you want to be? Yonkers fucking locks to some of the greatest rappers ever live. I'm not disrespecting that.

Who said that? No, he said that. He got a Yonkers flow. Okay, I give me that. What I'm trying to say is Martin Luther had a dream Yeah Dream

Hayden to love it Crazy he had nuclear missiles On both of all the documentary To this day The first one The debut though Is a smoker Nobody can front

They did the numbers The numbers prove it Four or five million right I'm gonna say I didn't know why And nobody's saying ready to die I think he's just over here Playing around like ready

I was just floating all over. We're floating over. Stop floating for a minute. Ready to die. He came in and switched the old way niggies was rapping back then. Who? Biya.

Biggie Sports changed the whole entire rap game. His flow is dating. His debut albums. His flow is cadence to this day don't make sense. He died when he was like 26, 27. He only did two years. is a damage

and it's fucking phenomenal there's not a day not a day in my blessed life that God has given me that I do not hear Biggie Small song what he was able to do to take rap

underground music and commercialize it changed my life in every other rapper's life he was 24 years old when he died I'm a fucking baby 25 or 26 or 27

24. Park was 26. Oh, it was Pac. Park was young, too. 26. But. Yeah, 25 and 24 is crazy, man. Fast and peace.

There's a barely get in the club. I think that's some bullshit. But Biggie Smalls to this day, his flows, his cadence. You know I help get the song together with him and Bone Thugs in harmony. That's another album. Look up the, The first, Bone Thugs in Harmony first album sold 30 million records. He's 1999.

For the love of money, got to get that money, baby, money, baby. Gotta get that money, baby. Let me tell you some, boy, I miss my uncle, Georgia. Call them George. Miss my uncle Georgia. It's Uncle Charles. It's Uncle Charles Uncle George

I miss my Uncle George I miss my Uncle George You know Uncle George Uncle George You know You know You know how you go to the AA meeting

And be like Hi I'm Joe I'm an alcoholic He's like Hi I'm fat Joe I'm a fuck up I'm a bug out. I change all the words.

That's why we're going to have a problem, Rich. We put it back. Rich, do it back to it. I can't even memorize my own rhymes. So imagine memorizing your rhymes or somebody else's one. I fuck everybody's shit up. But I got that bone and Biggie done. Biggie hit me up.

Said, Joe, I want to rock with your men's. I know they're your men. We're on the same label. I'm hanging out with them every day. Then you had a relationship with Bob. I had to really, really convince them and I know to this day they're happy I convinced them.

Steve Lobel brought them to the studio. The rest is history with that boning, biggie, bigie, boning. And nobody in New York was thinking about Armand Dangerous. Hey, too many can't bang with us. Sing up we know angeled us, notorious, so-called beef with you know who this. Nobody was thinking about that flow

at that time. When he did it, it was like, you know, Big was somebody that is like you. I mean, damn, man, we got a big this thing. I'm right over here. I absolutely salute them, man. Biggie was like you in the very way of, you never said a whack verse. So every time Biggie could rhyme on 112. He could rhyme on fucking a girl's TLC shit, whatever.

It ain't out to commercial. It ain't anything that we would listen to him. we would listen to the new verse and be like damn Biggie did it again he was super nice he did this and this and that it was crazy

you know what I'm saying B-I-G that ready to die that shit to this day is one of my favorite you know what I mean from the slave shit's for the same like in the two vault you know Biggie

I had my homie's total busher shit every record it wasn't just total I don't know if it was a fan but as a rapper every verse similar to you every verse Biggie

ever spit we would analyze it immediately and be like yo he did a song with total you know everything you'd be like damn you body that shit again it's not easy to body every single verse

you know JD Kiss you know he's really good at that you know what I'm saying we're listening for every verse like oh shit, Jaina is going to spit that shit right now. Who else you put in that, in that category of every verse they ever spit, you would listen to it like, oh, shit, he about to spit that shit. Like that thought.

Huh? Black thought. Black thought it is superially nice. We all agree. Rest of peace, DiAngelo. Rest and peace. The man was Cardizu. I've been fed.

that my whole life. I'm keeping it a buck. No, no. I'm just saying to you, it's like, yo, I got to appreciate every day. I'm at the point where when I wake up in the morning I peek to see the sun and be like, oh, God. Yo, I'm a fan of this show.

Cock Diesel is one of them. We can't say that no more. Cock diesel. And you love to say it. Plagrant. Yo, you love that. You love it so much, Paul. You too, huh?

This show is like fucking Eddie Murphy, Beverly Hills cop. It's one of them sits with my partner shits on me every day. It's unbelievable. You know, now you got people said, Traderkiss don't even believe him. That's why he throws the face. You got a little shit going on out there. I get on.

Were you giving the suckers some content? You know what I mean? Because we got blood. Well, you could throw another one. We got blood suckers. He threw his own. They whole shit is based off what we're talking about. True.

And so that's how I know how we drive in the culture is when you got other guys like, okay, what Jada kiss says, have anything sound like kiss to sign by here. It's the same way in the podcast. I watch guys wait until a new podcast come and they fake, think they lit, and they go on right about what we say. And they got a problem with it or they agree or they whatever. And so we're giving them. We're feeding them. Content. You know what I'm saying?

So it is what it is, brother, the flags. It's okay. You know, I know what I'm doing. I'm into getting money. Oh, we know. A whole lot of money. I'm not even going to lie to you guys. And so we in this podcast.

man, motherfucker came out of jail, Fabio Foreman, and said, no, save the records hitmaker. I'm a stream. Streaming. He told you. Podcast. No, no, I'm not saying that. But he said, they asked him. He came out of jail.

I don't know if you've seen that little video clip. And they said, yo, you go in the studio. No, I'm streaming. I'm streaming. There got to be a reason. That's where the bags at. The podcast, the streaming, that's where the bags at. So you see me in it.

You may laugh and I'm here to entertain. you. I tell you we provide a service, but my laughs. That glizzy talk is going to turn into so many M's, and I'm going to say thank you for loving the glizzy talk.

Thank you. Joe going to be the spokesperson for Oscar Meyer like in six months. I will take the check. Yo, Jay. Get on the subretz. Yo, but I'm true. Listen, bro.

I'm true to what I say. You say, Cap, I went to the Yankee game the other day. We're glissies. Ooh, drink. The guy next to me is eating steak, lobster, crab, clad. You know, the Yankees, they got some shit. They got like a club. You've been in there, right?

Steak, lobster, this, this, this. I'm glizzy mania. Little mustard. I don't give a fuck. Little mustard. Yo, boy. Yo. A little mustard?

We're going to the awards later. My wife trying to cook me all type of shit when we had a yes. It's mine. Just give me a couple of grisies, man. I'll be all right. Then we'll go to a ward show. Maybe we eat something over there. I don't give a fuck.

Is it nostalgic? Like, what is it with the, I don't even want to say that word? How about I'm not phobic? It is nostalgic. Hold on. That is. Yo, how about I'm not phobic? You know, I'm cool with some gay guys that's like really gay.

Okay. Okay, ATL's finest. And I'm in the Essus Fest. I don't know no better. I'm in the golf cart. I see my man, Miss Lawrence. I'm like, yo, Lawrence! These guys are like, you know, they're holding up the flag

in another level. His friends are looking like, yo, you're fat, yo, the gangster rapper jumping off the... I don't give a fuck. If you're my brother and I love you, I don't give a fuck. For sure. So I'm jumping off the car. Yo, Lawrence, what's up?

Yeah, yo, I don't give a fuck. If I say Glyssie, I know who I am as a man, I don't, I don't care about none of that shit. None of that shit bother me, man. Certain shit just don't sound right, though, though. Like, I feel you, like, I know you older. This thing is saying, I'm dealing with the Paul's game, the Paul's police and all the other shit,

where, like, that certain stuff don't sound right. Certain shit sounds crazy, huh? You see the flags, stay out. Yeah, yeah. You're out. We're here, man We're here to talk about the new docu-series Tell us about it

Man, look I said it last night At the premiere The way I describe it It's a confirmation To the world That the devil is a sucker You know what I mean

And he can't fuck with me Fucking right, bro Talk that shit He's a liar. He's a wimp. He's a shrimp. That's right. He's a peon.

You know what I mean? He's a manipulator. That's right. He pray on the weak. He pray on the people that don't believe in God. You know what I mean? He's just a sucker. And my journey proves that the ups and downs in my life, the turbulent times, the times

where, you know, you, you. fall down and then you believe in him so much. He enables you to get back up, brush yourself off, keep on going. My mom told me at eight years old I could be whatever I wanted to be in life and I actually believed her. You know what I mean? All those times of my friends in store garden, you know, used to tease me, Chuck, you know, saying he going to the NBA. You know, nigger, I don't nobody making it in the NBA from here. You know what I mean? He hit this, nigger, took this line. You know what I mean? You know, Come on, Chuck.

You know, me, you ain't making it come back in the crib and crying and all that. Monty said, I can't do it, whatever. She said, you can do whatever you want to do. From that moment at eight years old, I knew that I would be here right now today because of those words that came from her, you know what I mean? And then navigating through his life, all the things I've been through, all the turbulent shit, the ups and downs, you know what I mean? My grandma told me before I got sentenced, the day they sent me to jail,

I was 17, well, I was eight years old. They waited until I turned 18 to try me as an adult. 18 years old and that morning I said, nah-na, why are they doing this to me? If they know that I didn't do what they accused me of doing, why is this happening to me? You know, why is God letting this happen? And she said, son, don't you ever question God?

And I never have. I mean, from that point on, I never questioned God. Anything that happens going in my life, you know what I mean? I've been through. a lot in my life, you know what I mean? I've been through, you know, like you talking about Rob Boogie, you know, different friends of mine, truth.

You know what I mean? A lot of guys that I love, you know what I mean? A lot of people in my life and my family that passed away, you know, different things happening in my career, you know, even getting to a point when my money was funny, you know, the lowest part of my life

with getting divorced, you know what I mean? From a girl that I've been with my whole life. That man bless you at your lowest. You know what I mean? You know, I know everything. And it's like, I never. Right when you think it's over, you get a miracle check. What?

Bam, Bubba Chuff back like a motherfucker. Yo! Never questioning them, though. What? You know what I mean? And it's a gift. It's a gift crack. You know what I mean?

This documentary is a gift to that. And everybody, like, you know, they do it. It's so cliche when we always talk about, you know, us as entertainers, athletes, or whatever, that we're only supposed to be role models to kids. You know what I mean? We inspire everybody. all ages. You know what I mean? We, we inspire them. You know what I mean? We helped them believe. You know what I mean? They live, you know, through us and believe through us, you know what I mean?

People look at it if Chuck can make it, I know I can. And that's the message. That's the gift to show you everything that I went through, you know, throughout my life. And being an open book, you know what I mean? A lot of motherfuckers just be so embarrassed about things that they went through in their life, the ups and downs and the mistakes that they made. I ain't that. You know what I? mean my girl tell me all the time you always let motherfuckers stress you out and you know you care so much about people why do you do that and that's not a gift that i have i don't know how i try my hardest to not let it stress me out whatever i'm just like that i'm a big heart of people a person and i love who i love you know what i mean but my gift a gift that i do have is that i am an open book

i don't mind you know telling you the mistakes that i make i tell my kids all the time you know why do you have to learn the hallway? You know what I mean? And I already did. You know what I mean? Why can't you listen to what I'm telling you? I love you. I want you to do what's right.

I don't want you to go through the shit that I went through. And I made this big-ass uproar. Like last night before last one was it, Twyant, night before last we did Atlanta, the book tour. And Tip told me, he said, he moderated my joint. And he was like, yo, man, your homeboys did a number on you. You know, but he was saying it. You know, he was saying that, like, all you talk about is the pain and the hurt that you have from the dudes that you grew up with.

Like, these motherfuckers, like, I was the one that took that ass whipping were bringing your entourage and you remember. I was the first one that took everybody from my hood with me, you know what I mean, to show them the world. And ain't none of here. I say something controversial all the time, and ain't none of them here. I say you're the closest thing to Tupac because you're the only person I ever seen. play basketball and have a fucking after-party in every city we're the realest guys. These guys ain't no fucking chumps.

Got the AI, the Allen-Overson jerseys on, the whole fucking party. Every night, guys that won't give it up to somebody, guys that ain't in the business of being suckers, they was wearing the AI jerseys. And I was like, yo, I always tell everybody, I say, you know, that was the closest thing. I've seen the Tupac Shakur, the love.

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We got one you won't admit. See, that's why I say. That's why I tell you. Mama, you know we got beat up in bad news. Man, don't do that. And you know, Ross started that. Oh, so he thought something happened. Rock, you remember. All right, you were admitting there something happened.

Yeah, you say I got you beat up. He got hit him in the chest with a Heineken bottle. Yeah, what they threw about 10? And he said, I got him beat up. He got hit him in the chest. Somebody threw a hinolegan bottle and hit him in the chest. Hit him in the chest? Yeah.

I never said, I never said that didn't happen. But he said, he said, I got him beat up. He said I got him beat up. Well, first of all, Rob snuffed to do it. Ra jumped in the crowd after the dude. Right? We are his birthday party. You know, how this shit going on out there, right?

I don't understand this shit. One minute we over there, we're like, yo, we were AI, bad news. The next thing, they're throwing so many. No, man, you was rap. You was performing. You was performing. And it was a motherfucker in the stands that wanted the, he wanted the mic. And Rob was telling the dude chill.

And then after he started telling him chill, then the dude was, and fuck y'all then. and then Roger's... What I do know is we had the gun. They threw so many glasses of Jack Daniels. You got hit by a... That shit was going to spin him. You got hit by a Hinegan bottle.

See, whenever people talk about him capping on the joint, see, I know him personally. So I know, I've never known him as a liar. You know what I mean? And what people got to understand. You should take the flags back. Listen, yeah. Yeah, but listen, but listen, I'm listening.

Only thing, like the stories that, you know, where I wasn't there, you know what I mean? I can't confirm them. You know what I mean? All I can speak on, the person that's telling the story. So I know he don't lie. He never lied to me. So when he's telling my stories, that's what I go off. So he get him 99.9% right.

Yeah, here. You know what I mean? We got our ass beat, man. That didn't happen. I'm telling you the truth. Everything, everything. So if you, if he called hit by the bottle, I asked with, man, he got his ass with. We play 70 games of spade.

For sure. And we was in there for hours and we were so hyped to go to this part. I don't know what the fuck happened. I just told you what happened. Because when we pull up, everybody chasing us. Now, he got the drop tops out there. So it's like Ali Bumay, everybody, yo, yo, they, you know, because. You remember what you told to me in front of my Uncle Stevie house?

I want to know that day We was it Yeah I'm gonna throw no crag on him Look um I'm telling you Look if you think about all the shit That he's done in his life And the place he's been

And the events he's been to And like in all the shit That go on in a motherfucker like his life Man you cannot be totally accurate On everything That shit gets blurry And then we Well I know I drunk a lot

You know what I remember What else are you in front of my uncle? In front of Uncle Stevie house, I had the blue Bentley and Azul drop top joint. And we were sitting out in front of the joint. And he was like, yo, Chuck, I'm going to have one of these one day. You know what I mean? And the first, I don't know what was your first color.

Was it the silver one? Sky blue, sky blue joint. And I remember, I don't know. I know it wasn't a video because, you know, usually in the videos, you know, because I had, when I was in Atlanta, I had everybody using my car's video. But I remember seeing you in it. It was something they was doing, and you was driving the joint.

And, man, I was watching it on TV, and it fucked me up. You know what I mean? It felt so damn good because I was like, yo, like, I was a part of that. Like, he told me that he was going to get him one of them joints. And you had the joint. Amen. You got the joint. You know, I got the picture with him.

He was like fat Joe. This guy, you remember he was big. Jay to Kiss. He was a little chummy. He was never like fat. He was a little plumpy. I got the fucking picture, Jay. I got the fucking picture.

You could do pull-ups down with one finger and all that shit. But back then, you was eating that fried chicken boy. That boy, boy, fucking some shit up. I got that picture. He gets mad. I post that shit like every three months for no reason. Be like, me and Jada. Why are you posting that shit, Joe?

I love when you posted. Man, let me say. Yo, do you remember that night, though? I do. You took, no, I'm telling me, we couldn't find a hotel. You know what? Remember that? When you told that story?

Let me. Yo, that was crazy. But I told it the right way. Yes, you did. But let me tell you. I don't know about, I don't think I had the game the next day, though. Yes, you did. Because we were, we were smack.

Listen, first of all, the owner hate me. What's his name, Bob? Pat Croce. He thought I'm smoking and drinking with you and this and this and that. He told me one day we went to some Adam Sandler window, and he said, Fat Joe, ma'amam. proud of you man how you he said i used to tell him all the time i didn't want you with chuck i thought you was a bad guy i see yo i was the nicest guy there what the fuck are you talking about

so he comes up he got a game like saturday and he come to jimmy's cafe with us he got the drop top and you said i was driving i was not fucked up all right you wasn't driving so i never i never drove drunk i never did okay he never drove drunk right i used to be drunk as a motherfucker let me This ain't something. Okay. Like, we was tore down. Bubba Chuck had the game the next day. But I mean, like, not regular.

Like, smack. Like, walking sideways and shit. You said I threw up. I ain't never threw up. I never threw up drinking. Yeah. Because I remember you telling the story. I ain't never threw up drinking.

We pull up in my man's house in the bummiest area of the Bronx. It's the only place to go. Do you remember him? Do you still rock? Yes. We slept on close. Yes. We slept on clothes.

You know, when his house is so bummy that they got clothes all on the fucking. You're still cool with me? Of course, he's family. What you want me to say? I'm talking to your true story. Yeah. We spend a night. He got a game against the Knicks the next day.

I wake up, he's gone already. So I wake up and say 10 in the morning, Chuck is gone already. I don't know how he did it. So I go to the Nick game. Shooting around, Nick. Man, if I'm keeping it a buck with you, we drank so much, I had diarrhea. the next day. Like, I was fucked up. And Jimmy's two?

Jimmy, I was two. That shit was crazy. And I go to the game, I'm fucked up. So I go to the game, and I'm purposely, I'm not courtside. I'm like 10th row, like, hiding. And I'm looking at that shit. He dropped like 41. He was in the yales. And the Joe Button C-stop.

You got to stop. You think about it, though. Think about it. How old was that? That recovery time was nothing. They gave us a sign. I don't know who's controlling your time. But hold up. He only got five minutes. Mama, come over here.

I want you to sit on the couch. Make this shit legendary. You know what I'm saying? Sit down, Mama. You know, we love you. How proud are you to be Bubba Chuck's moms and his journey in life, you know, with Bubba Chuck and all the success

and how you see him come around as a man? It's important because you're the first mother, athletes, mother that we all fell in love with we love you braiding his hair in the middle of the court and you...

I got to stop you with that. That's not me. That's not me. I braided his hair that's not hair. He's supposed to know that. I braided his hair from all the... When he first wanted his hair,

braided. Now, I did braid his hair, but his hair was coming loose in the back. And he was worried about his hair. You know, he liked to be fly. He was worried about his hair coming to loose. So, you know, my sister called me, and she was like, Ian, he keep on telling me and looking at me, and I don't know how to breed here. And I was like, but all you got to do is just braid his hair. You braid him just the back of it. And so when I got there,

I saw my son. That cap running off on it. If it is cap, it's rubbing off. If it is cap, it's rubbing off. Yeah, because mommy got about over there. Mommy got this. Oh, flag. Mommy got the story, raw. It is what it is. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I got to be authentic. You taught me to be that way. You know what I mean? It didn't go down.

It didn't go down. And then he over there calling him, now I'm Bubba Chuck. Why are he talking to Mommy? Now I go to, at first I was AI. Now I turned into Bubba Chuck when he's talking to mommy. But it didn't, it ain't, it ain't happened like that. Well, it happened. You got my version.

You got your version. Yeah. Okay. You know, you know, you know, your son, AI. You know, my mom's ain't here, man. So we want to hear it. You know. How proud are you of your son, man, and all his accomplishments

and how he inspired generations of people? First of all, I was proud of him from the first day I saw him, you know, because back then, yeah, back then, back then when you have a baby, and I was so young, like he said. So, you know, I had to have him Ciceroon, burb, and I was sleep. so when I woke up in recovery and they brought him to me and I was like he's so light

and you know what I'm saying but when he opened his eyes and he looked at me and I saw my eyes looking back at me I said oh yeah that's my baby you know and I checked everything on him I checked everything on him but what really blew my mind

is first of all I got kicked off the basketball team because I got pregnant with him but what blew my mind was his hands and his arms his arms was past his knee When I laid them out like that, they went way past his kneecap, and I was like, I got a baller. And I was happy. I was happy.

And so I told my family, I told my whole family, I was like, you know, I got a baller. So everybody was like looking at me like I was simple or whatever. But the thing is, from that point on, he came in my life, and he was the perfect child. He was not hardheaded. He would listen to everything I said, and he loved the daylight. out of me. And at that point, I needed love because of the fact that my mom had died

at 29 years old malpractice, but anyways, the Iverson said, Senator Virginia, and that's the best thing they could have done for me. And when I had him, when I was carrying him, I was pregnant playing ball in the heart for Connecticut. And I went from there

to Bethel High School playing ball. And he had a favorite cheer. And his cheer... Don't do that, ma. Okay. How are we got to hear it. Yeah, it was the favorite cheer. And it used to be, no, no, it used to be, everybody'd be on the court. And we had half time.

And then everybody had sing, go, Bruins go. And everybody would shut up. And he would say, shake that thing. So that's my story. But far as proud, I want to tell you something that he said to me. me this year. I said, Bubba, I said, you know, I am so proud of you. I said, you just make me so proud. I'm proud of you. I just wanted to express that to him so he'll know it from my heart. Yeah. And he said, I'm not finished. He said, I'm not finished making you proud. And that's what

he's been doing. With that being said, this ain't that? That ain't there. This cracking kiss makes some noise for our guests. Hey, I am I love. There's two moments in my life in my career that I could cite you for and just want to say thank you, brus.

Like, you don't know what it meant to me. One was you put me in a video in your video. Hudson is the key to success. You gnaz, man, like... You know, when pictures come out, like, once a year. I see the pictures. It's going to be here forever. I love that, man.

We was kids in the arm, but you pulled up to the Bronx. That meant something, no. That meant something because... Let him get in a violence. Coming from Chicago, man, one of the things we wanted was just to be heard by New York. And for you to be like, yo, even though he's on the same label, if you thought I was on some weak shit, you'd been like, God.

No. Hey, the flag back on that. Thank you. Thank you, beloved. Thank you. We get the flag back. It's the beloved of all beloved, you get the black.

I'm going to tell you some shit. What's the second one? Well, the second one we didn't talk about a lot where you, man, you practically saved my life. Oh, get the other flag back. Take the other flag up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yo, you know, Jay, Jay.

He got his flag back. that man really saved my life. Like, I was out on the West Coast with my guy, one of my guys I knew through one of my close homies, but he was my guy, and he just wasn't happy with the whole situation, the whole Ice Cube Mac 10 beef that we had, told him we had squashed it.

We're doing it. We're sitting there doing a commercial. This was the most money I was getting paid ever for something at that point in time. So we, at peace, we're like, yo, things is good. My guy just, he's from Chicago. We just couldn't hold. He couldn't hold it.

So he started ruffling shit. And, man, it just got a little heated. And I want to say that it's not because Fad Joe's tougher than anybody. I literally beg for your life. I literally got in the middle. It was like, please, he's my friend. He's my brother. You know, he, you know, some people take things personal.

And they finally saw him. And he was on there, saw you. And they was talking crazy. And I was like... No way. This guy, I said, this is literally my brother. And I was begging them because it was the serious ones. I was like, please, this is my brother.

Joe, you know, we've been waiting to catch this guy. I said, listen, I can't. I just couldn't do. And basically I stood in the middle like, please, guys. Like, I cannot do it. But they'd settle. It was over after that day, right? It was a fact of that day.

But you settled that. Like, I'm like, man, we are on, we in California. Don't start nothing. My homie already, because they already, like you said, they already wanted a piece on me no matter what. What? So my guy out there, he's just going off. And anyway, I knew Joe.

I ain't even hit it, but I didn't know everything he did. Oh, no. He did. I knew it was him that said, yo, this can't happen. And because he had a, you know, a relationship. Super relationship. Still my brother. Shout out to that.

And yeah, shout out to Shout to the Inglewood. Yeah, Eaglewood. That's my family. Eaglewood family was good. That's when Fat Joe the gangster, I was like, this thing is, because he straight up was like,

he can't do that to my man. It was like one of the movies where he used to talk about Goodfellas. Good fellas. It was like good. Hey, once again, I begged him. I was in their mercy and I was just like, please, this is my brother.

This is my family. I did that one time for Rich Playham, my best friend. they was about to do it and not saying rich in them ain't real deal right where he was getting into it with a seven-headed monster guy who just kills he's in jail for too many bodies right and I had to jump in the middle and be like yo yo yo yo I can't it's like yo fat boy get out the way I was like oh no I can't this is my family I can't I knew what it meant they real deal and this other guys you know a Jeffrey Dahmer and I'm

And I'm a monster. And I'm sitting there like, yo, listen, please. Let me get it. I said, no. Knock him dead. Knock him dead. Y'all Eddie, yeah, and up there.

But they go, but they go. The man go, because it's the first argument I ever had with him, right? He goes the next day to Rich and they block on Cyprus and says, if Joe got in the middle, that means you're good guys. Let's become friends.

And they wind up being best friends. Yeah. My man's still in jail, 37 years. But he went the next day, he took it on himself and said, if Fadjo threw himself in the middle, trying to squash it, these guys got to be good guys. And it was all over, you know, staring at each other in the club and a couple of girls.

And, you know, these guys, they kill each other over girls. These gangsters, man, a lot of gangsters in jail killing over girls. I'm telling you, I had a guy. This guy was a maniacate. He's still in jail. 40 years. Right? And he was mean.

Look, and he turned this scared straight. No, no, because... No, he's talking... A lot of wars have come over women. Most of them. Yo, but listen, this guy, all I'm going to say to you

is this was a mass murder. He's still in jail, 40 years. He would come to the club and he'd go, he's Puerto Rigg, and he'd be like, aye. And I'd be like, yo, what's like, I... The nenda.

He's talking about his wife was bad as shit to us. She was fucking dudes. Yeah. Like, she was loose. See, come on, and, uh, you know, Jimbo from the barber shop? Oh, yes, he was with the net.

Everybody of his 10 guys, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Jimbo, he didn't know. Yes, with the net, net, net, Jimbo won't be around and two more dead. Like, he would come all, all. One time I argued with the nigg was like, I, like, I said, no. I don't want to hear that shit. you're a fucking liar she's the most decent girl in the world she didn't do it

yes the nana and everybody knew what that was somebody was disappearing over the nina no I'm no maniacs like that man but you know common man you're the beloved of all beloved let's keep it peace

you know I got my palisante hey I said you know I said you see what I'm saying what I'm saying what's that like spoken sage It was supposed to protect us for that story.

It's similar to say it's Palisanto. It's Palisanto. You know, it comes from the trees down in Chile. Bring in a good energy. Bring it a good energy. Move negative energy. We got to go to, I used to love her. Okay, okay.

You knew that was like a lean back. When you finished that bitch, you was like, oh, I knocked this shit out the part. Like, what was making, I used to love her, where did that come from? What was the exception? of that idea because to this day I mean we did it in so many

Bigel did the ebonics to this everybody did some version of it but that was like the epitome man whenever God dropped that idea into my spirit bro I was I was geek I just know no idea

made this dope beat he was dope he was dope he accepted of George Smith's shoutouts to no ID bro killed that yo I was sitting at home my homies had just left the crib.

And I was staying with my guy, Rosson. We had a crib together, like an apartment. And, man, I was sitting up. It was two in the morning. I just had that beat playing. I was like, man, what if I made hip hop a woman? And then I just started writing. And you used to take me, I don't know how for y'all are,

but sometimes I'd be taking a while to write it. Back in the days, it took a while. Back in the day, used to be like, back in the days, you'd be busing your brain. Like, what the brain to come up with some shit. Yo, that one started coming to me. And then I started, you know, just understanding the metaphor. Not understanding, but just getting into the metaphor of it

and taking it through the whole ride. And I was like, I ain't going to fun. I did feel like, this is it. This is something. Halfway through you was like, yo, this is some shit, right? Like that shit started going. You're like, yo. No, man.

I was like, yo. And then by the time I got to the third verse, it was like, summing it up and got to who I'm talking about. Charlie's hip hop, I was like, man, I knew that it could have something, it could hit somebody because when I was in that studio landing my guy Rossin was, he was like, I could see him through the booth. I was sitting there rapping.

And, you know, we're young, so he's like, you're going to hit. What girl are you talking about? Yeah, he's like, why are you doing this love song? He didn't want to, you know, he's like, doing a love song like this. As soon as I said, we don't talk about Charles' hip hop, that nigga grabbed his head. Like, oh, shit. You want to know what's crazy is.

When you came in here, I know how much you love Elmatic. And so we're doing some Elmatic. And similar, I used to love her to Elmatic is over the years, every time I heard, I used to love her, I picked up something new. And I learned something new. And I was just like, yo, this shit gets better. You know, like, Elmatic, you can still, like right now, we all could have rap and didn't know the word.

Yeah. The right word, right, quarter body halfway Houston. What the fuck he meant with quarter body halfway Houston? Head for Houston. Head for Houston. Yeah. Caught a body hair for Houston. Oh, caught a body head for Houston.

Yeah. Catch a body. You know, it's like, so you could keep, like, that's how the lover was for me. Like, every time I heard it, I would hear something new and something new and be like, oh, shit, that shit crazy. Yo, what hit me too was like, man, that was the first time I really started. Like, I remember, you know, back in those days, you would have, like, people give you a quote for your album. Biggie gave me a quote. And, like, I was like, damn, I'm actually getting respect from, you know, more and more people.

But then that movie, Brown Sugar, came out. And Brown Sugar was based on I used to lover. Wow, I just knew that. Yeah, it was based on I used to love her. That writer, shout out to him, Michael Elliott. He had come to me to write something, like, write some movie stuff with him. But I was like a little bit You know, I ain't know how to do that

So we're just moving You know, I'm just So he ended up writing brown sugar Boom Then me and Erica Me and Erica Badoot did the song For Brown Sugar Which was love of my life

Based on I used to love her My love it was man So I was like It was one of those things That kept evolving in a way Like that song And it was a seed that Yeah

The seed that It keeps growing And you know what's crazy is Being that you're saying that, I'm just, you know, I was supposed to be in the movie Shaft. I was supposed to be people's. What? You know, that actor's a big, big, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

Yo, rest in peace, John Singleton. He was coming to Jimmy's Bronx Cafe every Friday trying to convince me to be in Shaft. But we was too much on that party like a rock star. And we was like, we ain't give a fuck with young, rich rap niggas, big pun, double plat, we don't give a fuck. He's, John Singleton was in the trenches. He was with me in Washington Heights

and fucking bummy apartment house. He had no business being there. Like, yo, Joe, I got this role. You could be peoples because, you know, what's my man, the famous actor? He played peoples that he's, you see how he was speaking with a Spanish slant? Yeah.

He ain't Spanish. No, no, no. He's from the States. Joe was supposed to be people. Bro, you turn that road down? Dumb motherfucker. Like a dumb motherfucker. Every time I watch that movie.

I was supposed to be in glory. All right. Now, believe you. Not all right. What's something that happened to you that you had an opportunity and you was like, fuck, dad. I'm gonna stay in D block with your aunt.

I ain't doing that shit, but now when you look back, you're like, damn, I should have did that. Have you had one of them? You got some of those. Soon at least. What? You got to give us one, man.

The last thing of power, the last episode of power, last season of Raising Canaan. Oh. I did take my wife to the Usher show. I saw you at that. I said back, I couldn't get a private. It wasn't meant to be.

It was one of them be sad or be happy. You know how big that Raisin Canaan was. Shout out the first. I got another one. I saw you at the Usher show that time. Yeah. Or you was there, too?

Yeah, I'm Vegas, yeah. You know, you go to us, man. He forced you to do the greatest hits. Yeah. Like, I'm over there trying to go out. All I want is two free tickets. Right, that's it. It turned into, it costs you more.

I do, man. My brother, fat Joe, the light come like this. D-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-in-in-in-in- You all stay sick. And you got to know the word. Then they throw another one, another one. I'm like, shit. Is this the fat-z-old? Maws is making you do a little concert.

DJ Mars My guy It's an honor Fast forward How does it feel To win every goddamn award And I feel good Whenever I see you win

Thank you Because I know what you stand for Which you represent Where you come from When they let one of us in And you just dominate The way you've been doing It makes me feel

Man I love that Because Win for us Right It's a whimp, like, let me tell you, when I'm up there, I feel like I'm representing us because we all, we are the tribe, man. Like, we know what we've come from. We know what we do.

We've been through it together. We ain't got to see each other all the time to know. We just, we're from, we just, the tribe, bro. We love each other. So when I'm out there, man, I ain't going to front. When I was on the Oscar stage, I felt like I was representing. I was representing God, black men, brown men, black people, like hip hop. Chicago, it was a lot that I felt like,

yo, this is what I'm, this is why I'm up here. And my ancestors, I felt all of that. And I'm like, I'm so grateful that you feel that way because I'm like, man, when I see y'all doing, I came in and said, man, I'm proud of y'all, man. This is like, what y'all doing, man, this is like, it offers so much to people. People who, like, need it, we need it.

We need the fun. We need the joy. We need the wisdom. We need to come in, like, in an authentic way. So to see us, us, like just, man, it was 93, 92, bro. 93, 92. So to see us, like, finding ways and real ways to actually impact life and culture

and be doing great things and taking care of our loved ones and families. And, you know, y'all remember, you know, the same way. I feel like we all want. No, I'm going to tell you crazy thing. I wrote my first ever positive. song, right? Now, you don't remember this. You know, I'm gangster fat jaw. I smack your baby at the Christian

and I'm doing, you know, I'm, but I'm talking all this crazy shit and I made one positive song and I went to you. I seek the kingdom. Never forget. And I played it for you. I felt like, yo, Kama's going to love this shit. There's a positive song. And I played

it for you. He was like, that's dope. Joe, what the rest of the album sound like? Like, you wanted that raw shit from fast show. I can't with the least black man. This third, Farrakhan, formed a million man. And he was like,

Yo, Joe, what's up with the rest of the album? I was like, yeah, yeah, the album is hard. I came to you with the positive joint. Like, I thought the comment was going to be like, yes. No. Yeah, he didn't want that. No, he wanted that joke, crack, fat, gangster shit. No, no.

And it, but, but, you know, it was, at the end of the day, you was showing the evolution. But sometimes it's like, you know, we all climb and grow our way. We grow in our own ways. When it's time, I mean, for me, it's like positivity ain't got to be like, oh, preaching, man, I don't like that. I don't like, I don't like that in movies.

I don't like it in music. I don't like it in church. I don't like, I don't like the judgment. I don't like it's self-righteous. I'm like, man, I'm conscious now. You know, like, you was doing the goodness out there, to be honest. Even, you know, like, you know what I'm saying? Like bringing people on, that.

in itself, but I feel like, you know, I kind of remember when you played that joy, but I wouldn't hear that joke. But you know what happened is, you know, somebody like KRS-1 who had the machine gun in the cover and we think he's coming again, he's airplanes, playing,

overseas people dying, politics and it's lying. I'm trying not to escape. That shit was like a fucking rose blooming. I remember I hopped the train. I had the Walkman and I played that shit

and then he was like Airplane is flying overseas people dying politicians is lying I'm trying and I was like it was like a rose I was like

yo what the fuck is this Yo man KLRS 1 and hip hop in itself at that time too man taught me so much about who I am as a person this stuff I ain't know

like even what he was just talking about or just certain things about Africa that I was Benzeman Bannica. Man, he wasn't that slurring, y'all, that's right. Why is that?

Why is that? He was going. He was going. Even to be able to break down the books of the Bible, when he was, Abraham was the father of Isaac. Isaac was the father of Jacob. Jacob had 12 sons. For real, the knees were the children of Israel.

I'm like, man, to get us to be singing that and rapping that, like, man, that dude just elevated us all, man. Hip-hop did at that time. He's the teacher, man. The teacher. And he made it sound good. But that's what I'm talking about. Like, he made that joint sound good.

Like, I had to get to that. I had, it was a point where in my music and career where I felt like I was getting stuff and I wanted to spread the word, but it was too, it was too like self-righteous. It was too like, you know, you got to find a balance. Life is a balance. So it's like, you know, me growing up, he was my hero, my idol, he still is. but Carous One was God in the Bronx, right? And then Fat Joe

Yes Became the new, like, you know, the dawn We're going double platinum, we're on fire I used to walk the streets with Carest One And everybody, teach you, teach you, Look at me like, you know, we had attitudes And I asked them one day, I say, yo, I said, Yo, Chris, how come everybody

Comes up to you smiling with the teacher, teacher and then look at you. He said, that's easy. I rap about positivity and unity. You rap around gangstership. They're going to make you prove you a gangster every time out here. Me, they just smile. I pose no threat.

I was like, wow, that shit was so deep for me at the time where it was like, yo, he's like, yo, they look at me like, this is the unified. They look at you like, yo, you still found Joe the gangster out here. So we went right back to the studio and killed some more people. That's a fact More babies than Christian But that's one

For me I knew like Okay Man I wasn't selling a lot of records Joe You know I remember walking In the relativity records

And it was I tell people This story It was It was Bone Thugs at Harmony Fat Joe I don't know

If the Roughhouse Riders were performing Like Fat Joe It sold maybe 20,000 this week But bone thugs you sold $40,000 this week.

I sold $5,000. So it was like, that board let me know, like, the priority of the label and what was going to be put into my career. So I knew that, man, I got to go on my truth no matter what. It's state who I am because record sales wasn't it for me, like, to be honest. I mean, I did have some great ones at times, but some good ones. But overall, it was like, man, my integrity of what you. You're saying, like, just putting positivity out there, putting creativity out there, putting that light out there is what, to the end of the day, some people ask me, man, why are you still doing it?

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You know what I mean? I thought it was a beautiful thing being that he's just coming off the biggest world tour bringing almost damn their billion dollars to the island of Puerto Rico. and now Ova is giving you a chance to check him out at the Super Bowl

and now he's getting now a bunch of hoopla. I don't understand it. I don't. It's damned if you do, you're damned if you don't. What's your take on that? My brother, you know bad. Let's be clear about this. He's the number one streaming star in the world.

Somebody's listening to this man. Number one streaming star in the world. You could Google that shit if you want. Felle it. Google it. Fela. He got a job, man. It's the most streamed album of all time.

He's number one in the world. He made me, the whole world, go to Puerto Rico to watch and perform. He deserves the spot. The problem with America is so racist that if we're celebrating art, we're celebrating culture, we're doing a halftime performance. Somebody got to perform, whether they're black, white, Asian, K-pop, whatever you want to name.

So at the end of the day, Kendrick Lamar did it last year. Is he big enough? Is he this? The ratings was through the roof? Was he big enough? Is he dissing the drink? Now you've got a guy who's Puerto Rican.

By the way, ICE cannot arrest Puerto Ricans. We're Americans. Duh. So I don't know what the fuck you on your truck with your Confederate flag thinking, you're going to lock up some Latinos. They're all Puerto Rican. They're American citizens.

What the fuck are you talking about? And my problem is why this race have to always, always come into everything that's going. I mean, everything. And you perform it. I didn't even see that. Right? When they picked him, I said, all right. Bad Bunny, he's the biggest.

He's going to rock, right? I'm Latino, and I don't know all the words to his song. But I know he's the shit and he's fired. so my thing is once they throw in the race shit I'm like yo what is this I hate people black

Latino white people whoever who always got to bring race into every single thing I just don't know why they've been bringing it every single thing since I've been born so they

oh no no but they but now with social media is that are all time I don't know how they break this shit down into it's every Everything, everything turns into some racial shit. Bad Bunny's coming to entertain you. If you're white and you all know Spanish, throwing your dancing shoes and have a hell of a time because all your friends are going to jump up and dance.

He's going to rock that shit like you've never seen it. He's going to translate it for you. What, the apples? Yeah. Talk about that. So Apple got this. So Apple presents the halftime. You got the iPods that translate,

it can translate it to English for you. On, right at time. Live turn. So why you know, I need that shit. They're making us buy the new phone for this shit, right? Everybody got an iPhone 15. I don't know if it's me. I'm, look, I'm played out.

You're down. Let me say, son, you. When it comes to technology, if you're under the 15. It comes to technology, I'm played out. Every time they want a new phone, it takes me a month to figure out how to take a picture or something like that. Like, stop making these shits, man, because every time they make it, it's like real like a new, you got the 17? Hell no. I'm going to be.

the last one to get it because every time they bring up something new I get it and I don't know what the fuck going on how to do Instagram how to do this

how to do that I'm confused you know my phone I just got used to it and my shit oh it's not the 15

no it's not I used to have the 15 the little bit everybody had the 15 yeah but I really don't want no more upgrades nah man that shit whack

If he's like a computer you must upgrade so bad bunny at the Super Bowl he earned it I hate when they try to make a narrative like oh they did this on purpose to fight ice that that's not true

he earned it he's the number one streamer what do you want me to do if next year they bring the K-pop guys the guys I don't know how much I would feel about that but the K-pop guys because they broke records and all that you will have to understand that you know they're the biggest in the game

the problem is that the NFL have always had like you know Don't go mess it with. Cotton I Joe, Kot'nai Joe, Kot'nai Joe. Don't go mess with Cotton Night Joe.

Nobody never said nothing all of them years. We say shit. We must have seen Pat Benatar ten times. Cotton I Joe. Cottonite Joe. That shit, you know. I used to think halftime was only for the Rolling Stone

than you two. And I thought it was there had a lifetime residency with the Super Bowl. I thought I'd never see a black guy at the Super Bowl halftime inside sweeping. Guess what? Ever since they put the black guys,

they've been winning Emmys every year. Guess what? The rating's been up. So, you know, you say what you want. You know what I'm saying? And it's become a thing. Every time somebody does Super Bowl, the next week we're talking about it,

was it good, was rated. It was, you know, shout out the whole. Shout out. Desrey Perez. Shout out the dead. The whole Rock Nation getting together pulling this one off because shout out to the rock.

I love their band. Bad Bunny even did it. Because bad buddy said he wasn't going to tour in the United States. So I love the fact that he said, okay, I'm doing it. Man, my sister, Mary, her bag went. Oh, after she killed that halftime, she was headlining Essence Fest the next day. I watched the bag. I know what the Super Bowl could do for you.

Mary Jane is not today's price. Mary's shit went dumb after that. Tour this. That shit, her shit went crazy. Wow, you heard that? That's hip hop. Shout out the hip hop, man. Kendrick is the most viewed.

He beat out Michael Jackson. And Mike had that spot for 32 years. Shout out the Kendrick for that. Shout out to hip-hop. Shout out to Kendrick. Let me tell you what's crazy, right? You know, I always complain about the planes, even though I go across the world.

But for a long time, I was the John Madden, the hip-hop. a good, they ain't a highway. I'm telling you. He never flew. Now that switched to the train, right? He switched to the train. He had his own train. Well, I took buses.

Nobody's know who got their own train, Nick. Let me explain saying you. I never salute the man for that. I didn't know he did all right. I did the bus. I go to New York and Miami so much. I come out on the gas station or the cracker barrel. And like, hey, Joe, like I lived down the block, Fayetteville, North Carolina.

Like, I don't do it every highway in America. And somebody was asking me, and I thought about it. I said, you know, we took, we did spring break. That changed my life. Rest of peace, Earth, God, and me and Ashanti did spring break. After that show, when they seen the crack of my ass, the album went up $25,000 a week like America couldn't get a nut. That's when they discovered Joey Crack.

They'd be on Soap Talk Saturday Night Live. Yo, you believe this guy, Joey Crack, the crack of his ass shows. No, incredible. But the sales, that's how... No, it just went platinum after the American love a fat guy. I don't know why. They love a fat guy. But the point I'm trying to make is we took the bus to Mexico.

This is before we knew about chop on and up. And I was thinking about it, I drove through the whole Mexico to get to... You got to drive through the whole man. I drove to... You drove the Cancun? I drove through forests that had elephant crossing. I didn't think it's... She said elephant.

The sign ain't dear. It's elephant. Right? I drove through the whole thing, right? Well, on the tour bus. It reminded me we got stuck up seven times. Stuck up. Do you know who robbed us every time?

The police. The fucking policea. Pull us over, middle of me. Mexico City. You got to drive through the whole Chiawawa. You drive through Jimenez, Juarez, the whole Mexico. Right? So they stopped me seven times I got stuck up by the police.

The last time, I just want you to know I'm not pussy. I don't get stuck up. No, I'm just letting you know it. This is very foreign to my DNA, to my spirit be. They keep pulling us over, yo, $100. They're sticking us up. Like, you know, and you got to

sit there like you pussy. It's just be like, all right, it's the police, whatever. This last time, we in the middle of nowhere, some little Mexican dude walks out in the middle of the road. He got like the Army suit on. Boom, his gun is taller than him. The man got a girl with him. Now, this girl, she looks like a working girl.

That's the nicest way to put it. She got the cheap shoes, the shirt. She's a whore, right? She's with him in the middle of nowhere, right? Fuck it. In the middle of a jungle. She got the little guy like this, stops the bus. You know, they stopping us.

We're in the middle of the forest. The horse stopped you? No, the bus, the cop. Whatever, he stops us in the middle. He got this guns bigger than him. He's a little. He comes on the bus. While he's coming on the bus, he's telling us $100.

Right? We only got started. about cops. The girl's sitting there laughing at us in our face. Like, ah, ha, ha, ha. Because he's, like, we're pussy. Like, he's really robbing us 400. She's, oh, oh, who, who, these guys are pussy, this and this.

My man, after he got off the bus, I ran so fast, slid on my knees, slid on my knees. I grabbed that Bible so fast, started praying, God. Please, yes. And Job was the, and God's was, I couldn't take it no more. Like, getting robbed by a little dude like this with the girl laughing in my face. Yo, I couldn't take that shit. I had to, there was nowhere else to go but to the Bible, the good book of God.

I went up in there, I started reading that shit. Like, every single word trying to, God, is this the page you want me to read? Is this 234? Yo, that was some of the most craziest shit. And I'm, yo, that was a tough time. I got one for you, okay? I got, I got one. Here, take these.

No, no, you got to take these. You're going to need them. We drove the Cancun. Listen, no, we drove the Cancun. That's easy. I'm going to tell you this one, you're going to die. There's too many flags, right? So I remember I used to go to Battery Studio.

You went to Battery Studio, right? Manhattan. Had to you. 27th Street. Man, the inmates fucked your back up for real, man. You keep stretching. You say that.

That's... That d'all. Yeah. He's going to know where that. Yo, listen, I love massages. I love massages. Right? I love massages.

I get massages on the regular. Yeah. Yo, listen. Yeah. Yo, listen, what... Yo, when I did my little four months, they told me, yo, the guy in our... Sell 24.

He's a real masseuse when he's. He's hominosity of my man. What fuck you talking to you? Get the fuck out of here with that. The in jail house, but you can't, I don't give a fuck. Who you is? Bernie Madoff can't explain that one. He got a nigga massaging him in the jail.

That shit over. But let me tell you something, man. I thought about Battery Studios the other day, and that's where I met Irv Gotti. One time we both booked the same studio because he was on the other side than me. You know what I mean? They kept telling him, don't be cool. with Fat Joe, don't talk to them, but

you know, when we met each other, we realized we like brothers, right? But Battery Studio, I had that shit rent to seven days a week. If I wasn't working there, Remy was working there. She wasn't working there. Pum was working there. We just had that shit on loud, and I loved it. One day, I'm in the studio.

Right? And Tony Sunshine, don't kill me, bro. I'm in the studio, and Tony Sunshine walks in with Big Punt. Right? They walk in the studio, yo, krills, what's up, this, this, that. And Pung keeps selling Tone.

Your Tone, your tone, yo, yo, yo, show him the Apple, show him the Apple, this, this. You know, these guys were like, crazy, right? So the engineer is a little white boy, right? He's sitting there. They go and they tell him to sit straight. So I don't know what, I'm not in on this, right? So they tell him, yo, sit up. Don't worry about it.

Pung got this. You're going to be great this. So the guy's sweating bullets. He's sitting there. He's scared to death. Tone puts an apple on his head. A apple sits straight, bro. Don't move.

If you sit straight, you good. This, this, this. Pump pulls out a gun. True story. Pump pulls out the hammer, right? Yo, sit there, this, this. The kid is sweating bullets like this. I'm sweating, but I'm like, yo, fun, chill.

Like, I'm telling the dudes like, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Stop playing this, this, that. Pun shoots the gun. So pun, bah. Shoot that. No, the Apple falls there And the guy dives under the fucking thing I start screaming

Because you got to understand They call me the funkiller You don't point what the fuck Fuck you nigga This this I'm losing my mind Because of the kit It was like a prop gun

That they used for the movies But they shoot the shit Sound like he's shooting the block The Apple fall down You know they never let us In Battery Studio again I never was able to I tried two years

three years, four years later, they was like, yo, your money not good here. These guys, we're lucky if it was today, that little white boy would have sued us for a billion dollars.

You know what I'm saying? But, yo, these shit, these guys were too much, man, big problem with his bullshit. He shot the apple with a blink. Yeah, but he never shot it. It just sounded like a real gun. There's no bullet come out of that.

You know what I'm saying? Like a real... Yo, man, this poor kid dove under that dashboard, that shit. He dove under that fucking shit. I look there, I say, Hey, you know, some guys, I'd say it all the time.

Some guys, you can't. Like, you guys are lucky this guy's a leader. And he's calm, he thinks, and wants y'all to not go to jail, he does. If Tony Sunshine was the leader, we all be in jail for 30,000 years. Like, Tony, you get fool with that fucking baby facing that R&B shit.

I'm sitting in the Mandir and Oriental. one day, and the food coming, and it's cold, he smacks the cheek off the guy, the delivery man. They threw me out of the Mandarin Oriental because, yo, the food is cold, the nuggets is cold. This is something like, you're torn. Smack the server. Smack the shit out of it.

They never let me get back in there for like 10 years. I went back two years, five years. Yo, they was like, now I'm Mr. Carter, J. And I used to live in there. No, Mr. Carter, 10 years later, Miami. The low one in Miami. I love that spot I come up in there

They threw me out of there for like 10 years They kept like, nah, you can't come back Finally, they must have changed the manager They got me off the list now I could go back But yo, this thing, Tom Sunshine got me in a bunch of trouble, man And then Mark Sanchez, he caught something Mark Chishman, yeah, he caught that ketchup Legend

Mark Sanchez What did he caught? He caught that ketchup Legend You see, young boys Don't be sleeping on them old dudes It's vice versa I learned my lesson One time I fronted on these young boys

They was about 60 pounds And they pulled out of guns so big We got the running They was blamming the whole Like I mean like You should have knew You just all right This kid's 60 pound flat

He's talking mad shit Big diesel dudes here They gave him the beats he pulled out the yala and let that thing ring so legend. So he's starting with you, but it's same thing. I'm talking about legend, God forbid. Like, I'm telling you legend, right? What I'm saying is we should have known the kid of 60 pounds.

How are you going to start with a bunch of Cock Diesel guys coming in? You should have knew what he wanted to do. This old man, 69, Mark Sanchez, Cock Diesel football player. Can fuck him with the man. He fucked with the man. Did he put hands him? Yes. The man said he feared for his life.

That was deserved ketchup. So the man gave him all pepper straights first. Try to calm him down. I don't know Mark Sanchez was just drunk, high out of his mind. He wouldn't start with this old man. The old man tried to pepper spray him back him up. He kept coming. He said at that point I thought this guy was doing.

He did something. He's a man, 70 years old. He fucked that old man up. He's 70. So how he got Hulk? Now, the old man, the old man had that Joey Cupcake. He gave him that. Joey Cupcake.

Yeah, he in it. He intertubeed him right quick. He intertube the bike with the old man said, ha, ha, ha. You know how you got that thing? I think you are honorary Puerto Rican. You got that. I don't bring the catch-up out because I know I give him the catch-up. No.

Sometimes if you know you might get, it's situations we might get out. without the ketchup. If you got the ketchup on you? And I'll tell anybody. Anybody who can, look, he got that, he got Mark Sanchez to fuck up off him. 69-year-old man gave him that ketchup legend.

Like, that ketchup would save your life. It don't look like that for the picture. Ten guys beat you up. This guy's got, this guy's 70. Damn, bro. And he got arrested. No, no, Mark Sanchez got a guy. No, bro, you 30 years old, beating up a 70-year-old.

I don't know how to explain that. he walked in and rested, though. That ain't, that don't go with each other. He and there, he handcuffed to the thing. He bleeding out. I saw some strong 60-year-olds. I ain't never see a strong 70, yo. Like, 70-year-old, the man that got every right to give you catch-up.

You know, and I like Mark Sanchez. He's a good dude. He had a bad night. He probably fought with the wife. He probably went around the world. Three weeks in a row came home and still got cursed out when he said. There's no food done. He went outside and tried to fuck with the old man.

The old man gave him ketchup, legendary. Tell him, tell your story, walking. Anybody could pull that trigger. Anybody could pull that ketchup out and give you the intertube. Pull it. Men release that air quick. Well, this ain't that. That ain't this.

It's cracking kiss, baby. Don't get ketchup from a man to 76. Don't get... Yo, listen, I mean, I've been seeing... a lot of old dudes talking like this social media. I've been seeing a lot of old dudes, hood dudes talking wild

shit on their like like they don't realize they 60, 70 or something like I've been seeing them talk crazy. At one point like me, I'll tell you the truth. Fat Joe, I'll tell you all the gags of stories when I was younger. I fought everybody this is that. Right now, my crew going to dance on you

or my security, you're going to shoot your face. I'm being honest with you. It's no fair. one-on-ones. There's no one-on-ones. In their face. No, no, shoot your face. Scarface. He shoot your face. What do you think the guy

looked like born supremacy farther for? The man gonna take I'm telling y'all, I don't have a problem with it. It's legal. You want to fuck with me. You got a hammer. You got whatever you got. He's shooting your face off. My guys, they're gonna dance on you. Fat Joe, the days are one-on-one somewhere. It's

over. Okay, so I don't know what these old dudes are doing. It's a podcast niggins might want to scrap with you, though. You ain't going to come back out. Now, they're going to get pounded out every time. They're going to get pounded. Not by me. You know who taught me that one time?

I think I want to say, Jay Prince told me that one time I seen him somewhere in L.A. We was churning Beverly Hills and I was like, yeah, yo, Jay, you look young, this, this, that. And I was like, you know, me. I was telling him about city. He was like, you're not supposed to be in that no more.

What do you think you got the guys for? You're older now, Joe. You're not supposed to be. No, the guys are supposed to, like, you know what I'm saying? So if you want to invite me to a one-on-one, you're very confused. I don't have a problem with Senate. Like, I don't have a problem.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what are you supposed to do? My days is over, man. And even when I did have one-on-ones, it was actually guys I liked that I had no choice. And I was like, you know what? Privilege giving them the one-off.

Yeah, because the guys are killer. We're the infamous. So I'm like, yo, all right, we could fight one-on-one and get it over with and keep it moving if I actually liked him or he was somehow a member right but

a stranger one-on-one never in my life man we beat up this guy I told you that story about the boxer I hit him with the bottom on his head I told you that story that I'm not playing for you tell you something my brother was dead nice with his hands

my brother Money Man Angel Carter Gina for everybody in Faw's Projects dead nice every time he fought the whole project to come out He fight. One day, I heard a rumor. He was off the dust. Dude knocked him out.

So they're telling me, Yo, Joe, such a such, knocked your brother out, this and this and that. Now, my brother is my biggest idol. Month later, I see the guy they're talking about, I go wake my brother up.

That's why I don't wake nobody up out of their sleep. If you got beef, don't wake nobody up out of their sleep because they're chilling. You waking them up for a problem? They sleep and chill. in the house, they're safe already.

You make it home, you're safe. I wake up my brother, your bro. That guy, man, he outside. They say he beat you up. This is that my poor brother, man, such a decent guy. He came out of work. He was sleeping. He didn't want to let his brother down.

He throws his sneakers on, a sweatsuit. He come out there with me. Y'all. I already felt out of it. Yo, Jada. Yo, Jada, I go over there. So now, according to my brother, the guy we talking about, snuffed him.

He didn't give him the fair one. He snuffed my brother. That's how what happened. And my brother was high on Angel does. But my brother, ketchup coming out the window, duff him, boom, the dude fall on the floor. I'm a kid. I'm like 10 years old.

My brother, help him up and tell him now, let's shoot the fair one. The guy he's fighting is the Golden Gloves champion. Everybody know he dead nice. Now me, I'd have hit him with a bottle, gave him some ketchup, them out with the crew. That would have been the end of the conversation. Right? So they get the fighting one-on-one.

He knocked my brother down this. He gave my brother the beats one-on-one. But the whole time I'm walking with my brother, I'm a little kid, and I'm like, yo, why you give him the fair one? Why you ain't stomped him out while he was on the floor, June? Why you ain't hit him with a bottle? He was like, no, that's not, it's not me. That's how I get, no, I'm sorry. I'm hitting you with a rewinded, just for it. We're in you with a rewinded 10 over your head. I'm not playing with you, boy. You went to Temple?

T.U. Went to Temple University, yeah. What was that? Temple was dope. That was a good time, too, because it was, I was a temple right when, like, the roots were taken off. Erica, Jazzy Fat Nassi's Common, Black Star. Everybody was there.

Everybody was there for you. I was there for all that Soulquarians, DeAngelo. Like, there was just, like, this renaissance, free shows everywhere. Every night, jazzy, fat, natsies, five-spot. Like, you know, you would just see real music. That was the best place to be. Ill hip-hop all the time. You know, shout out to, like, you know, electric factory.

Jill Scott, fell in love with Joe Scott there. And we had our basketball team. It was nice, too. That's when we had, like, Pepe Sanchez, Quincy Wadley. We played Lamar Odom, at URI. We played them, like, we made, like, the Elite 8. Okay. Live on TV.

Coach Cheney. It's our motto is T-U, motherfuckers. So that didn't really work well for. ESPN. It was like live on ESPN. They never came back. But we had coach training. No doubt. We had coach trainers. Yeah, that was a good year.

And I taught high school in Philly for a few years. What was that like? That was dope. That was the best job I ever had. You know, I taught high school in the hood. Explain that to us. Just for the love of the kids? Yeah, for the love of the kid for how important it was. Bad-ass kids are being hauled.

Yo, there were some badass kids there too. They got the better detected in the fucking from first to sixth grade. We had that. Two, I had two kids with a loaded gun in my class. Like, I had the, like, that's a high school. High school. And I looked like I was in high school. I was in my early 20s.

They had guns. We had a daycare center. They had babies. Kids in the school had babies. Oh, yeah, we had a daycare center. Like, it was, yeah, a lot of girls were pregnant. It was real shit. It's where we came from.

So it was like, I was that badass kid. Like, it was, I've been definitely had my life turned in the right direction by great teachers before. And I was trying to do that. Like, it was. It was beautiful work. It was important. I had really great students. I taught, like, you know, I turned every class.

I was a long-term sub at first, and I would have turned everything into African history. And it was beautiful. It was just changed. But it's such a lack of that, right? Because right now I just saw, they have a museum. Right now, when they're trying to, like, erase African-American history.

Yeah, basically making it. They just got the gun that killed Emmett Till. The person who found it is also. the guy who wrote the book about Emmett Till and he says there is no mention of Emmett Till in no history book in the whole school system throughout the civil rights era

or nothing like that. So it's so important to teach African American history to the youth because we don't know. Like you know, I argue with these foundations. Like, you know, sometimes I'm in the car

and somebody says something. I don't say, do you know the traffic stop was Yeah, trapped by a person. Yeah. Do you know the plasma what's Charles Richardson? None of this shit works if they know what we created. Like the whole hustle of the society and white supremacy,

the con doesn't work if you actually understand the role of the contributions that black folks. And this shit don't start with slavery. If you learn where Greece actually studied, where Rome actually studied, where they what they learn in Africa, where institutions and mathematics and all these things came from, it's not just like to feel good. It's the actual history is a foundation.

of all this shit Empire's rise and fall You know what I mean Like we're in one That's going to fall And I hope we're not while I'm here Yeah but My kids

I don't want to Fall Being able to Every empire falls Yep Like so you know how we feel like This is America And can nobody

Come blow us up We saved this That's bullshit It happened to every empire In the past You know And what's crazy Is I just came back

On a flight From Dubai with a couple that went to Egypt. There's one place I've never been to that I always want to go to. Yeah, me too. And I was talking to them, and they were like,

yo, you know, King Tutt. Like, I find this confusing. They was like, King Tut is still in the tomb right there. You could see him. And I'm like, how could you see King Cut? Didn't he die like 10,000 years ago? Don't even, like, disintegrated and all that? But the main thing about it was they were explaining that

the pyramids were made so that if there's an earthquake, it sways with the earthquake. You can't blow them buildings. Them buildings won't fall. They've survived everything. And I've seen they had AC. You know how it is?

In fucking Egypt? The pharaohs and on that, AC, they figured out how to make AC all these years ago with the water system and all that. These guys were brilliant. I'm not lying. Uh-oh.

Google. Oh, my God. He threw a hot. flag on the plate. My house stil. By AC don't work sometimes. I don't have AC all the way. It has ventilation.

They had air. Air shafts. You know what I'm talking about? Talk to them, educator. It's keeping it shaded. How many things are at temples connected to Stark, the consternation? He explained it the right way. Yeah.

You made a scene like they got situated like we got. They just plug that shit in, Jay. It's me. The 12 phone. Two, two, twenty-more. 140 degrees outside. There's a way for you to make it cool. I got that adapter.

The point is there's been extra extraordinary intelligence with Africans, African Americans that they don't teach him. So you're a school teacher in Philly

and you're teaching the kids that. Absolutely. Every chance you get. I mean, I'm teaching. I'm showing them, you know, figure, in African history, including Kemet, black as they are, with corn roads that are the leading irrigators, astronomers, architects, city planners,

physicians, surgeons, all these things well before Europe came out of the dark ages. And you just watch your students, just like I did when my dad was teaching this to me, posture change, lifting up, like asking questions now involved. Like, it includes me. It's the only element of school that includes you, and it's telling you that you already been here. You didn't come from the mud. come from slavery at it, the beginning of nothing.

That's the end of something. And our confidence, and it's not just for us. You think, you know, if white kids and everybody else also had to learn that we invented, you can't walk through this country without touching 10 things that an African invented, that affects you. Why don't we mention something that come to mind just so for the kids just watching right now? Elevator, refrigeration, early cell phone technology. what did you say?

You said traffic light or... Lewis Ladimer and the lightball the actual work with Edison went in Litton with higher to go light all in London. They don't know that. That's right. That's right.

Charles Drew. Slaterman, Poe, shot out of A.R.S. Charles Drew did a lot for medicine. Let's listen. What I'm saying to you is and I was thinking the other day,

I said, man, you know, Tupac and Biggie were young kids. Yeah. Right? And 26 and what? Yeah, but whatever came to their mind, like Tupac was talking about real shit

that happens right now and big two. And so back in that day, right? Because I was trying to think, like, other than his family being Black Panthers and stuff like that, well, I was like trying to think of him and Biggie. They was talking about issues that was happening at the time.

And then I thought about it and said, well, you know, we was coming right off of Carus Swan, Public Enemy, Queen Latifah that whole all that conscious movement so they were more like the lyricists

but they were including consciousness in the music I see a lack of that unless I don't know with the youth today yeah like I see a lack of that

you know at least we caught that in our era you know talking about like we made a song like why but why comes from great song

you know he's of that era people in front of them And so it's very important that we teach our history. Why do you think that do you think we can get that level of musicality back, that level of songwriting where it's about just love and real shit in our community from that entire era? I would say we'll have to go the way you went about teaching your class. Like when we're amongst each other and you make it sound interesting,

interesting and they want to learn then the posture change. then the music would change. Right. So lead them by example, maybe a couple OGs need to do something just to see that it is cool, that there is something. But I also believe that's how

in our culture, that's how you start to spread. Somebody's got to lean. Yeah. What I believe is cool is I don't want to be in our interview. You can't be about money, okay, because the way hip-hop

is fucked up is it just, it went from an art form that was created by poor people in the Bronx. Don't know. Hey, I'm from the Bronx. Maybe we invented this shit. We want to have these couches in this motherfucker without the Broncos. It wasn't for the Bronx. This crap shit.

Don't do that. But he know I'm trying to plug it every time. But the truth is, it came from an art form where these people, unfortunately, our pioneers who started this, they never got their money or they just do. No.

Because they did it out of love. And if they would do it 10 times again, 100 times, again, they were going there and party for free again. And so this conscious movement of this time right now can't be currency based because now people is all thinking about, let me get

one hit and I'm going to make my money. It's a bag, is a lick. They're not preserving the culture. They're not so much about teaching the youth or whatever. So it got to be a group of people, a group of people. A collective decision. Yeah, they're saying, hey, y'all, fuck money.

And you can make money. You know what, you're making good music. Good music makes good money, but you don't. Good music and guess what? It might be our job. Yeah. To fund that. It might be our job.

Or find it and lift it up, Avalon. We're going to donate. We make a lot of money. Yeah. Let's donate some money towards those guys who's trying to give the positive message and ain't making no money. He's not even about the money. Like you said, you have to show them firsthand.

That is cool. And then in it starts. What thing? What about it? It also, we have to remember it, make it, anti-blackness has got to be uncool. It's like, how many niggas you can destroy, us just killing each other and eviscerating each other. And I think it was a young, brilliant brother, you know Vince Staples. He said in an interview, it was good to hear from a young artist's mouth. Like, the MCs used to rap about having a sling crack, right? Having to be alchemist and create something out of nothing, having a push dough. And now it's the drug users. Now it's the drug addicts, making them use them use them. about being addicted to drugs and using drugs. And that's the shift, because we're all listening.

We're absorbing it. Those high school kids are rapping it. We memorize you. You can't memorize your time, stables, or the history, but you know the songs. They had a kid out of Philly brilliant. Yeah, that kid was a lot. All he rapped about was positive.

Really positive, beautiful brother. Just gave him two blocks in Philly. Yeah, and that three blocks. Yeah. You know, but that right there touched me. Because this kid, he was doing that. Yeah, he was. He was.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Scott Stoarts, you know, I changed his life. What I'm saying? They was raking about it. That was the reverse rapism. They had that boy

doing all them fucking hits and they wouldn't give him credit. Yeah. And so Rob Reef, too, By the way, the only A&R that I ever got an ears from one of the greatest, changed my life, made me millionaire. This guy, Rob Reef Tulo, because the other day I shitted on A&Rs. What I don't like, he's a different breed.

He's from that era. Rob was the best maybe ever. And even back in those days, he made sure I got my bread, even if it was a little bit. Because they didn't have to do that shit. He was one of those guys. Like, I don't know. Hats off to, you know, to Reef, man. Straight up.

Let me explain. I don't even want to go there because I don't want to turn this interview into a cap interview, right? But what I can say... Go. Let me tell you so. Rob Reef Tulo changed my life.

You know what I'm saying? He heard, you know what I'm saying? I was working with Biggie on a project and he came and divide and conquer. He said, yo, you're doing this work with Biggie? I said, yeah, I only had two albums before that. I had no money, no nothing, Flo Joe, none of that shit made money,

sold records, this, this and that. He was like, y'all want to give you your own label. He took me to Atlantic, and because I was going to put out a project with Biggie, it's the only reason. I never sold, I didn't deserve my own record label. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. You had records with Biggie?

Yes, where you are under a rock? I'm trying to tell you, that's the, you got that. They never came out. That's the inception, that's the exception of Cap, Joe. Because I told people, I was doing the, man, I don't know. Where are these records? Listen, I don't have it. No, no, no, no.

I'll come in snow, I'm too real. You know I ain't going to lie. Never. Being big, he was cutting records. He wanted to be the black dawn. I'm the Spanish dawn. Some people call it cap. Whatever.

This is crazy. But Rob Tulo, as the A&R of Atlantic, heard that I was doing this project and stepped to me. It was like, yo, you're doing it. And I'm like, yeah. And he was like, yo, yo, yo, I want to give you your own record label. I didn't even deserve the record label at the time. All the

million dollars, I might have had two grand in my fucking bank account. But you had a pun already, right? No, not yet. This was T.S. This is Teres Squad Records, right? Yeah, but this is the beginning. This is before even pun. Or nothing like that. It was just me. I only had two albums. A hustling is the key to success

of Flojo. So Rob came and gave me millions my own record label. And that's why they gave me my record label, because it was like a biggie fucking with this guy. Fat Joe's on our shotcha with Ella and all of them. That was out already. Let's grab them right. Yeah, that was out. So he was like,

no, the momentum, the projection was there. It just wasn't there. You know how we all say Big El wouldn't have died. He would have been the biggest. So I was like projected to win, but I wasn't there yet. And Rob took the chance with me and did that same thing with Scott Storch when he introduced me to Scott Storch. And he was just so talented. And I was just like, yo, and I'm the first to go. Yo, Scott Storch on a hit record.

I just used that tag on the song, he just played some keys on the song. I just drive with A. Z. Chike and Baby Chon and I only spank Nitty. You heard the Yo, Scott Storch, what's up? I put that shit on. After that, he had cheese lines outside this thing. Let me tell you, he was crazy about you producers, man. Yo, Jada, it's the truth.

Scott's too good. After I shouted out, Scott Storch, I'm going to the studio. It's Method band, Redman. this one, that was cheese lines of rappers. Whoever's your number one rapper is out Jada, was you on the line? Yes,

he was. He was your shit with over. Scott is a... Y'all, what I've done? Nuff you? Y'all, let me tell you something. Give Fad Joe credit, but I said a lot of trends in this game. I've seen Scott Storke. You know, we have hit boy, and I'll get miss it.

Scott Storch's old enough. You made a story. I was going to get him. I was talking about. I'm going to get him. Scott Storce now. He told those. No, he can't, but let me tell you something. It's a lot of Scott Storch stories. Listen, so I'm going to Scott Storch?

Yo, come on. See, yo. That man is Leonardo the Caprio of the music game. When he tells his story, he got stories. Oh, my God. He lives a life. He lived a life. Did you guys know?

No, a super like, did you guys ever like make a pack? Did you guys ever, like, make a pack so you come see Jada and it's like, all right, I hear this for Jada, but you keep the other pack for Jay-Z? I used to hate these producers. They come in the studio to bring us beach. They'd be playing some shit. They'd be like, oh, this is for H-T-A-H-N-A-S-O-K-T-A. I'm over there trying to make a fucking hit. My, I got a fucking wrench around my brain trying to crack open.

or something. We went through a line of that on Bad Boy with Big. They used to play the beats and say, no, that's for Big. Why the fuck did you play it for me? You know, how did you suspect? If you were wondering. While all the mix that were coming to do do do do the shit with Mattiband.

They'd be like, oh, I can't really give you that. That's the Red Man. And yeah, we like, yo, my man. Like, what the fuck? What you giving me? I'm chopped liver. We used to come to the studio. You remember those days, like, in Battery,

when y'all would have, like, album mode. And we used to come and line up. It would be Buckwax. Rockweiler, whoever, come with the Dats and have to play beats. But y'all used to have the fucking shenanigans. Like, I remember one time it was you in pun at the studio

and I came in the studio to play beats and it was a hammer on the table, allegedly. So I was saying, all right? So I walked in and Plum was sitting all the way on the back on the couch against the wall, right? That's what he used to say. And he went and grabbed the apple.

He put the apple on his head. I was playing. I just thought of thought. He put an apple on his head. Holy shit. Put an apple on his head. Hold on. Take the fucking...

Listen, I ain't spoke to Joe in a minute. He put an apple on his head. He said, yo, Joe, Joe. Joe said, right now, right here. He said, go, go, go ahead. Joe said, no, we can't do that right. He said, go, go, go. Joe took the hammer.

Boom! And punt went like this. They made the fucking... It was an air gun. He made the apple move. I told that story recently if I did that with Tony Sonshot today. You know they never put us in battery.

studios again. Tone Sunshine put the Apple on some young this little white engineer and they punt did the same shit

shot it they never let me rant bad at a studio again in my life it was my favorite fucking studio

those sessions were crazy those fucking sessions were crazy man that one he gets the one taking back

he gets one from the cap story checks out story checks out he gets his time out and he gets another challenge

those were crazy days man but yeah I mean you know but they were the fun days

For sure. See, I thought you was a member of Marb Deep. I mean, shit, you can say that. Well, the way I looked at it. Yeah. Right? Because you got havoc, you know, niggas calling that, the number one album of all time produced.

Straight up. I see lists all the time where infamous? Yes. Infamous is. And so you come afterwards and team up with prodigies. Murder music. So you put in mean work with it. Murder music is when I got down.

How do you come in when he already has it? a Dr. Drake. So I thought you was the third member of Marble Deep. I swear to God. I mean, you, listen, I tell Halve all the time. I thank him. And that's a real testament to confidence. He's having. He made a whole sound.

So when I got to New York, I was around soaking up all that shit, figuring out how to make the drums a certain way. Like, Hav is a mastermind genius. We know this. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, the connection was through Cyprus. So it's funny how I work. I mean, you know,

Muggs was working with them all, but I came to New York. He linked me with them, and they just saw me in New York, like, just out here, Dolo, still reping solo assassins, but they were like, come fuck with us, you know? And then I just, I was out here kind of by myself. So them put me into the mix, you know how that made me feel? Like, think of that, Marble, the murder music is, they already did hell on earth, infamous. That's what I'm trying. I was a fan when I met him, you know what I'm saying?

So the fact they left, and you know how it is, it was gradual too, because it's, they're not the type to just be like, come on in you with us. It took a while until I went to Rick Kwan's wedding. And I went, you know how you go to a wedding and they give you them shuttle bus? It was sitting next to Rizzen his wife. Wiz it turns around. It was like, you know, I used to let you, you know, work with Ray. Yo, I'm like, you know, some crews, they wouldn't even let you work with each other.

They'd be like, yo, he was like, yo, you know, I'm glad we're at the wedding because, you know. about that. I mean, that's, you know, Rizzer was the boss. That's like you call my outfit

a little outfit. He's kind of like Little Idol way. I used to let you wear Pinky in the brain. That shit looking fly right there. But, you know,

your brother compliments your outfits, man. You can say something about my outfit, man. That's outfit. See, motherfucker boy,

he won't give a compliment for nothing, God, damn it. Like you're in your compliments all the time.

Yo, listen, but where we was at with with crews like even me right and i please i don't want to start no type of beef i worship you guys i love you guys to death but i'm a member of digging in the crates from the beginning and i remember when they asked me to do i shot you l ls i shot you with keep some of the members was like y'all you don't rock when no they was the underground they they was underground they didn't believe that it was some of them

It was forbidden for you to do a shingle that was about to blow. They didn't want you. Yeah, with my idol, L.O. Kooja, I was like, yo, this is my idol. This guy's four-time planning. It was like, Strictly Underground. There's seven members in digging in the crows. Let's get to it. Who was it?

No, I can't. But what I'm saying to you, what I'm saying is, yeah, Joe, yeah, Joe. These two to three members, no. I think I know who it was. Two to three members. I think I know who it was like, yo, we only not. It was a show. It wasn't show.

It was a show. It was a show. It was like, it was a show. two or three members that was like, yo, we rocked with us. And I was just like, I said, that was the one time I said, man, I don't. It wasn't, it wasn't Andre the Giant.

Leave it alone. No, it was. We can narrow it down. But that record was hard. I was born yesterday. No, it was a stepping stone. You know what I'm saying? It was almost like a pop that French Montana.

Like, it was a time. Like, our shot to put me on another level. Was that a Chris Lydie? Here's he. It was Chris Lyddy. And Chris Lydie. And Chris Lighty and trackmaster. Yeah, beat, yeah, but Chris.

They fucked with me. They fucked with me hard. So they came there with my second album. I was working at Battery. Mm-hmm. It was like, yo, you want to jump on this LL. But I know about, you know, you working with prodigy. You know, I know they must have some internal talks.

Like, yo. Ah, man, we ain't talking about that. He made it in. He made the shit. It was always love. I have always showed me love. But we kind of, you know, still sharp and, still.

No, we got a shout out. We got a shout out my man Keg, a.k.a. rock star, aka Tanya, I didn't even Roe. Because he put us together. That's right. And yo, you know what's crazy? He's doing this thing now.

Shout to Craig. My God, you probably gave him their best record ever. And you know what's crazy? Do you remember? No, no, that's a phone. No, it's definitely timeless. He has a fan. I don't know what he's like one.

He gave me still feeling, feel me? This is another connection. That's crazy. Look at this. You kidding me? Remember the beat for bringing on? Remember the beef

for bringing on? Huh? Remember the Bring it on beat, right? Bring it on. So there was a stretch arm still. It was a stretch on still.

L.A. We balled in and threw that beat in the COVID clubs, you talking about? And then Stretch came and told me y'all was asking who did the beat because I didn't know y'all yet. That's out to stretch.

We went up on stretch. We went up on stretch. That was a drink to us. We balled out. Now, what's the real story This is the last time we ever going to talk about this because shout out to my brother LastCats.

Hold on. I was going to say shout out to his son's after his dad is my man, Joe. Rastcast is a legend, no, let me say. Shout out to Deirdre Moses. Chill out, I'm tall. I got a soon as a moment for me. Like, can I have my moment?

I don't want to take my moment. No, no, I don't want to jump on. No, no. Let me get my moment. It's a cafe, a coffee you can try. No, I'm saying. So whatever happened, because all I know, you came and played me some beats.

I picked that and that. Then I got a, you know what I mean? Because it's really you. I took the heat for it here. But it was really out. He didn't tell me what was going on with it. We took the heat. This is the last time we ever going to talk about this because he's all love.

It was just a mix-up, man. It was a misunderstanding. I had love for both of y'all. I still do, you know, shout to Ratt. I just saw Rats last week. Living legend. His kids are killing it. Ghost Contra.

Shout to Coach of him. It was. was a mix-up. It was early in my career. You know what I'm saying? And it was like, it was a lot of little moving parts and shit that happened. But in the end, I, you know, I wish it didn't go that way. You know what I'm saying? But then in the end, the record we made definitely became something that lasted forever and shout to Rass too. You know what I mean? It was just a mix-up back in that time. But, you know, I wish the best for everybody. Everybody's doing great now. Well, you know what that happened to me? Yo.

Don't tell me we all We all the world I thought the flag ahead of top What beat did he have first? We ought to work We all right Damn

Fuji Lai was made for me In my face By Salam Remy Right after Flood And I'm not telling you I wouldn't have did a better job than Fuji Lai But I was in his house

In my hand He made Fuji Lai in my face For fat Joe We used to be number one He said Lauren Hill came like two hours late and was like, oh, no, not fat, Joe, this is my shit. And they snatched up that Fuji lie.

It was made for me. If you listen to Fujila, it's the same type of drums as flow, Joe. Same pace saying everything. She came and threw that shit in the COBRA clutch. It was like, yo, I need this. Let me get that batch. Okay. I just heard recently you said win or lose was originally for me and Pete.

I never told you why. The phone. No, see, this is what happened. You know, when we were doing. Maub albums. You can we hear that? Yo, could you play Winner Lose right now? One second, man.

He just, think about, imagine. Imagine this. We were finishing the mob album and, like, when we were doing the album, we would go to the studio and work, but sometimes they would come to my crib and you record joints. So that was a joint I had in my crib in the computer. So. Album was done, and I was like, I went secretly, I hadn't told you, but I was, like, hoping they would forget, because I wanted to put S-P and Kiss on it.

And then Pee came to my crib, like, we. before they were finishing the album was like, yo, remember that one joint we had in the computer? And I was like, oh, yeah. Damn, fuck. But, you know what I'm saying? I always thought, what would that have been like, man?

Because I didn't want to say, imagine, you know what I'm saying? You know, he and Joe Jeter, we don't let nobody finish their answers? I'm glad he said. I'm glad that was one of the best things you ever said. Y'all, thank you, brother. They didn't exactly cry with you or not, man. Yeah.

I need to do a clip of like, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh. You know what happens is I just be like, the ideas come up while I'm hearing that. I'm like, oh, I've got a better. I feel it. I've got to work on that. Put it up. Cranky crocker, man. Oh, you would have went crazy, right?

Y'all can't. Suck it down. Imagine that. You would have went crazy. I had the right idea. Whoa. You feel it, baby. Yes.

Another day, another dollar. It's about getting money. Give me a holl in my nose running. I've been out in the cold. Hustle for so long. My hands numb. I bet I feel that paper hit my palm. It's like all shit.

It's on. Time to go shopping for cars, not fashion. I wish be the ball. My clothes. Be the same shit that we had on. Fuck, look at cute. Say that for the Bronx. It's the AJ, B.O.

Z dump and reload. Knock, knock, answer that I'm placking through the people. Black, he's charged to pay lawyers so we be dozed. Get locked, then I'm slutting ladies' CEOs. You'll be the only niggas you know. That fuck they POs. They push our files at the top. You still on parole.

We got money to roll. No time for paying attention. Turn that all. He was different, man. Peace. If I was sure, I wouldn't want to hear that. That's a, well, anyway, that's a legendary song, but that definitely got,

that locks written all. They would have been a phrase. We got music to play. Let's hear it. You do. Yeah, I'm gonna play low and nice and sweet. My man, I got the leg right here. Let's go. Let's go.

You and her. Show us the low challenge. And then you got to do it. We can bake one up, though, because it's you and I, we can just go low how we want to go. You got to take it easy. We can't, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, we can lean back and go low.

Joe, we can lean back and go low. Joe, we can lean back and go low. Give us a low. That would be the Matrix. Give us a lean. You know what I'm saying? It's a little different. If you do that, we are there.

We pass down. We're going to the moon. If you... Show us the law. I'm a street. When the track comes on, we're going to get up and try together. But I got to see it first. You guys, your New Yorkers are so aggressive.

You got to show us and then we got to try. Guys, you New Yorkers are so aggressive. Yo, come on, dog. Joseph. You got to stop. to me. Show us the low. New Yorkers. Yeah, show us.

Show us the low. Show us the low. We've been bamboos with a hoodwink over here. We can't agree to anything till we see. Oh, crack. He's right. Let's do a toast for your new song. Okay.

Upcoming birthday and day. And let's ace to stay. Shout out to the Scorpio. Salute. Salute. Shout out the life, man. Just living life. good people. Yes, sir.

Mm-hmm. You took a sip. Oh, oh, you can get low, man. You know, he can definitely get low. You don't take sips. Listen, one, if I drink that, it's a wrap. One more sip, you low. Let me get a no.

Let me get, let me get one more. Sleep low challenge. It's going to. You tell you something. I'm like the scarecrow. I need a little oil in my joints, you know what I'm saying? I can't get low. All right.

I'm going to play this record. So this is me and Diamond Platinum This is my song, though The video is out It's been amazing All the love, everybody's been showing It's been incredible And like I say, my boy,

Diamond's from Tanzania So I'm gonna get into this record right now It's kind of low Tanzania is the furthest place I've been on earth That's a flight I actually haven't been there yet Oh no, it's a flight

I've been there Crank that shit Put it off Get low crack Hey Yo Hey Hey

Yeah You did it again Talking Your body's calling Tell me to show you how I can make you proud I put it down the right away Yet these hips

Make up why I won't try me Slip waist Put your face, get behind me We'll change positions You'll take a hold of you. on me. I'm having visions of you getting down with me. And I know and I know you've been watching me all night. If you're moving right, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to let you take control, lo, lo, lo, low, low. White down for you, oh, low. Just don't leave me dancing on my own. I'm going to let you take control,

Lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo. And I think you're ready for more. Yeah, now let's get more now. Lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, no. No, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, no. Oh, no, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, no. No, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, see.

Oh, oh, Lord, if you're right see. When you put your boss, mix the mind, Why the brins go crazy You know what you do? You're like to put it's all over I can't Come to me zincu tuffo now You know I'm crazy

For you I'm ranking This song is fire right in A song is fire Don't me put it down Next me ask Oh, Tell me how that sound Now that's how

That's how So you get, good, so now me go so, Choo Choo Choo Choo Choo, Make your money, Whet, Wet, Wet, Oh, ye? I'm going to let you take control, lo, lo, lo, la.

Hey! Oh, let's make it. I'm going to let you take. Woo! Let's go! Let's go, boy! Ha! Yeah.

Let's get go. No, no. No. La la la la. You can go. Ah! I can get it up Woo!

Woo! I can fit it in the end. Baby, take me there. Oh, I got it. Sorry. Uh-huh. There's me.

Oh, boy, yeah. When you be holding me, Beholding me Something comes over me Take some control of me Control of me Control because La La La La La La

When you be hard To me Something comes Over me Take some control of me Control of me Control

La La La La La la la baby Take a La la la la la la la love No baby La La

La la la Yeah Yeah I can't wait to see that line. Let's go. Can't wait to see that on tour. We're through the fly.

Now we tried, though, Sisi. We tried. That was good. That was good. That's fine. That song is five. No, that song is crazy. Thank you so much.

The song is fired. That sounds like a hit to me. I don't know. And then, you know, with the Joe and Jada effect, it's going up even more. It magnifies, whatever. I need those iPhone videos. I need those iPhone videos.

I need them. No, no, we don't get that footage, man. Let it get up the footage. It's so good. That's crazy. That's too good. Let me tell you something, man. I got one more for you, by the way.

That's cool. That would be getting a double trick. So this next record. That's like a freak of nature. You went low to the point of where your neck almost hit the floor. I'm like, what the fuck? Come on, man. My fat ass is like low, low, low, low.

They're like, no, no, no, no, no. Don't do it. Stop. You did good. You did good. Okay, so this next record right here is this is me, Molly, and Oxlade. Again, Molly is from Ghana. And Oxlade is from Nigeria. So again, I'm just in my bag with my people.

So this is called Nice and Sweet. And we're going to sauce it up. November 14th is our big day. So I'm about to give it to y'all nice and sweet. Let's go. For me, I definitely feel. incredibly empowered to be doing it my way because literally the day, you know, I had one of the worst, I call it one of the worst meetings in my career, I would say, in one day and the next thing to the death.

So I was, I went in with level up, right? And so I'm trying to make this story short. But basically, I was in this, the recording system, the major system, right? I don't like saying the name. But I was in the sign to the label and then there was a rotation of CEOs coming in and out. So you all know, like I know, when you have a new system coming in, you have to resell all over again. And that's exhausting. Not only that, they come in with a new monster or how they want to run. Yeah. New monster. New everything. New favorite people. So you got to convince them all understood that. Yeah. So you got to do it all over again. Right. So that was my second round of having to do that again. I'm like, man, this is crazy. Because you already start the process.

You already know where you want to go. But I've got to sell the next person all over again. So I had the meeting with the gentleman and um with the guy and then um you know i played him the visual for level up played him the record i'm like you know i think this is going to be crazy you know i'm feeling real confident and he basically was just kind of looking at me like like oh like he didn't see the vision and what i saw and so i walked out kind of like depleted because i'm like i was so hyped up for this meeting and now i'm about to get this record out and he yeah but it's crazy because the power manifestation is real. Literally a few weeks

before this, Russ and I were sitting up late in because I was so frustrated with the system in general. I'm like, man, I can't wait to run my own label one day. Like, I can't wait to do it my way. And we start researching, like, people that own their own labels, women that have their own labels. Like, we just start going to this whole, like, rabbit hole. So then fast forward to, literally, it's crazy. Like, what you say is so

important. Like, there's life and death in the tongue. So I always say, when you speak, you have a chance to tell your life story. Say, great things. So I'm like talking like subconsciously speaking life into what I wanted to do, literally have that meeting. Worst meeting in one day, the next day, one of the best days because I started beauty marks entertainment, my own label. And my idea was that all the scars you get from the opposite you face in life or your beauty marks. So I was able to look at life's journey and be like, you know, all that I've gone through that hasn't been so beautiful and felt so ugly and so

like uncomfortable when I went through it was they're my beauty marks. Right. So me kind of just like encapsulate my journey. But anyways, you know, I asked my message back, gave them to me for free, then believe like that, like that, right?

Like that. Yeah. So. Bitch ass. Yeah. I know who to call. I didn't talk from me. I'm going to call Joe.

Joe, let him know. Let the hammer out. Get on them. No, but I asked for it. I gave it to me for free. And then, you know, I'll never look back.

And now fast forward to levels, level up is almost four times platinum to date. all your money. Yeah, it's a blessing. And it's a song, it just keeps on leveling up, right? You know, just recently it's the song for the Starbucks, you know,

commercial for the protein drink they have. And there's just been so many opportunities to start of retrending all over again on TikTok not too long ago. And then, you know, God works. Yeah, God is so, as I say, he's a boss of all bosses.

So like whatever he says is going to be, you know. The CC album, I've seen you cooking up with tigers. Yeah. I've seen some footage of all our guests I usually have a song with I just want to know why he never called Oh, listen, you say less

When I walk out of here, I'm gonna have a record There's no more No, you don't understand You don't understand You know, because I check Listen, because I flagged you down Wait, I flagged you down at the next game Next game, yeah, we gotta work

I said, babe, I got, Jayda's gonna go I gotta watch it Because you know sometimes you go back to the back but you don't understand. Like, you are, like, the best, you know? You're a tiger cooking, that shit was dope. I'm like, yeah. By the fact, I would have been perfect on this show also.

I said you got a twist. It didn't to the second part with both of y'all. It's not too late for a remix. No, no, cool. I'm here, baby, you know. Done, done, done. Then the second part, I feel is one thing I don't like being signed to the majors that all of the hard work,

everything you showed them what you can do. Yeah. Why the hell every time you want to release a project, it's like you got to keep selling it and keep doing an audition. Yeah. Do you not know who we are? Why the fuck they would turn back to Star Search? Why don't you make your own independent and hire me for free?

Hire me for free as your CEO. And I show you how to do it. Fuck them, man. I'm telling me. Yo, we show them. I know how to do it. No, that's why. I've been green.

I've been winning. That's what. Winning like I never lose. I've been fucking winning independent nonstop. That's why the power of believing in yourself is so important. Right? Because you're believing in them. Especially when you're in those moments because, you know, you got those.

Those are not flags. This is good stuff. Those are good flags for one. Okay, good flags. It's a good flag. Word about me. Yeah, I know. It's a good flag.

It's a flags of delusion. You got a gain on the flag. You got a gain on the flag. Yeah, I got a game. Okay, we got a game. Look, we're the first. All our football. You see.

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