Joe and Jada - Bill Burr ROASTS Fat Joe + talks Eddie Murphy tribute, ‘The Social Reckoning’ & Jada’s viral Drink Champs story

Episode Date: May 5, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by Bill Burr: stand-up legend, Broadway star, podcasting pioneer, and one of the most respected comedians alive. Much to the delight of Jada, Bill’s first Fat Joe... experience leads to a hilarious episode-long roast session, with Bill drawing big laughs from the crew with jokes about Joe’s affinity for interrupting other people with a “let me tell you something.” Bill also discusses his upcoming role in Aaron Sorkin's The Social Reckoning, his speech honoring Eddie Murphy as he received the 51st AFI Life Achievement Award, and how he finally got past his anger after decades of holding it in. Plus: Joe rants about his squatter nephew, Jada gets his flowers for his viral Drink Champs story about N.O.R.E. taking his dap back from a stranger, and Bill breaks down starting his Monday Morning Podcast on a flip phone in the late 2000s. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX! Merch is here! https://joeandjadashow.com/ All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet 5:00 Bill starting Monday Morning Podcast on a flip phone 9:00 Joe's squatter nephew 14:00 Bill on getting past his anger through acting 18:30 White people sports: U.S. Open, F1, hockey 30:00 Vancouver decriminalizing drugs + how the mob went legal 37:00 Jada's Drink Champs story gets its flowers 41:30 The Social Reckoning with Aaron Sorkin 49:00 Could Fat Joe do stand-up? 1:02:00 AFI Eddie Murphy tribute 1:13:00 Joe trying to start podcast beefs 1:20:00 Makkaresh, the little guy from MoroccoSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:28 You are. even trying and you just are. Listen. Insane. It's like a tick. He can't say something. He said, you grew up in a loud house. Listen.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Let me tell you something. I got, hey, Joe has something to say. Yeah, yeah, what up, y'all, freedom of speech? This is Joe Cracketton Dawn. Let's get to it, baby. You know what it is? The Joe and Jada show, every show legendary,
Starting point is 00:03:19 every show iconic. And we got the pressure on. Today's show is very iconic. When you think of today's guests, they wrote this in Kaleigh, and featured part of my squint. I like that I'm a legend, but he's got to read what I did.
Starting point is 00:03:38 No, no, no, no, it's so much. I want to end. Yo, you want to get it right. We don't want to take guys. I'm going to lie these intros. We let him go. All right. Let me tell you,
Starting point is 00:03:48 you're going to be impressed. The one thing I can say is he gives a hell of an intro this guy. Let me give you the background before I give you a flat. Let him set you up right. He's going to set you up. Tell me. We do everything one take over here. That's how I do.
Starting point is 00:04:04 We got this new deal with Netflix. It's a lot of stipulations and rules. I mean, so if I just give my bill burden, they're going to call back. We got to do some read. over's and take this out. Stipulations.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Yeah. Okay, let's see if you can read this shit. I can definitely read it. I'm not like that you can't read it. I mean, like your eyes, brother. My eyes ain't like your leg. Okay. What's wrong with this leg?
Starting point is 00:04:32 Don't listen to this guy. This shit working perfectly fine. He got a, no, I ain't got shit, my leg. That calf right there. Look at my shit. What's like it in the Guggan? My sin is in the all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Lloyd's in London. It's the best thing in the Lloyds in London. Would you blow out your Achilles? He grew out his calf and a little bit up. Not even doing sports? Doing sports or just rapping? Dodging bullets. Jumping over camels.
Starting point is 00:05:03 When you think of today's guest, you think of a man who built himself from nothing. No gimmicks, no safety net. Just raw truth. And the balls to say what everybody else's thing. A stand-up legend, Broadway star. A podcast and pioneers with millions of volume listeners worldwide. Emmy nominee.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Grammy nominee. About to be a major motion picture star. A man who went from the streets of Boston, the Hulu specials. No, I was in the suburbs. The suburbs of Boston, excuse me, to the Broadway stage and still finds time to argue about Biggie and Pock. funny as hell, brutally honest, and one of the most respected comedians alive today.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Make some noise for the one and only Bill Bair. All right, thank you. I don't know if I can follow that. I'm trying to tell you. He's going to give you the rollout. Just stay patient, you know. How do you do your podcast? You got to set up like this?
Starting point is 00:06:12 No, I just, I have a microphone that I, I, I put into my phone and I just, I do it that way. You know, white people, man, they ain't got to spend no money for their It's not true. Nothing. This motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Yeah, I see, no, what's my man? He's my man, too. Pete, Pete Davidson. Pete Davidson, that nigga in his mother's basement that some shit eating nacho cheese, number one, right? Like, you ain't got to do shit. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:06:37 It's not true. Like, everybody, this is how they all started. They started with just, you know, when it first came out, I started doing the podcast in the late 2000s. You actually called up a phone service. Wow. And recorded your phone call.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yeah, like a flip phone. You would record the podcast, and it started off for five minutes, and it became 10, and then people started writing in and that type of stuff. And then most people moved on to this, having like a studio or something. But I didn't want to have a guest
Starting point is 00:07:05 because I didn't want to deal with people, you know, artists being like, oh, was that today? Blah, blah, blah. And then I got to like, you know, you know, just do all this. extra work and stuff. And I already got enough shit in my life.
Starting point is 00:07:19 So I just wanted to keep it simple. And I also like doing it like more like underground type of thing, you know, where it's just whatever I say I say and then I don't edit it. You know, I didn't want it to be a bunch of work. So I never progressed. If I have a guest, we go into a studio. But if it's just like I did one this morning, I just did it in the hotel room. It's easy.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Got the, I like that. Get it done wherever you at. Yeah. And plus Netflix never came to me going, you know what? We want you to spend the bag. Yeah, we want you to be, yeah, I've never, I've never. We spend the bag, you know, we spend the bag, you know, motherfuckers hitting us from all over. Officially, everybody that works for us got to connect with Jordan, new balance. There's the fucking two-time of felon. They sending them new balance now from them penny loafers. Kelly come in with the new Travis shit on. Everybody got new shit on their feet out here.
Starting point is 00:08:14 This fucking, apparently they're getting seated by all the top brands in the country because they work on the Joe and Jada show. Yeah, but then with that comes stipulations, as he said, and I can't deal with that. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like any bit of Bill's time, but I want to know what happened to you at the casino this weekend because they call me the Indians. They say, your partner, man, he don't want to get off the table, man.
Starting point is 00:08:40 What was it, man? What was the atmosphere? and why they, he started, he had a hard about, my free time, I like to play Blackjack. It's not a problem. I'm not, why you, why you, I lost my shirt. Lost your shirt. And I had to stay another day and get my shirt back.
Starting point is 00:08:57 You got a bad guy. The motherfucker go. I don't gamble, right? I don't gamble for the sake of the show. Life's a game. And you get that. You know, if the most high wage you walk, He sounds like that guy that gets prostitutes
Starting point is 00:09:15 who goes like, you're paying for it anyway. You are. No, there's a difference. Technically you are. A larger amount. When you do it at home, when you pay for it at home, you're paying a large amount.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Now I got a 19-year-old daughter. I'm paying twice. What are you talking about? This shit is this bag. You should be in the clear at 19, right? Hell no. It just started 19. In the clear port.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Fuck out of here. These people, man. Are you crazy? I got one nephew now. He says he's not going to move. He's a hoarder. And my, in my, yeah, my name's on this shit. I tell him, y'all, John, John, it's time you got to get up out, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:09:53 Get a job, do something. He's talking about he knows his rights. My nephew's a fucking order. He's a squatter. He's a squatter. He's a squatter. He's not your nephew. No, he's not a hortic.
Starting point is 00:10:05 He's not my nephew no more. Today I said, man, let him show. So how are you going to? What pressure are you going to apply? I don't know what the fuck to do. I did it on the way in. Right here coming up upstairs. They asked you, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:10:16 Are you, are you? That's a hard one because that's a relative. No, I just said some guys over there to beat the shit out of him and pull him up out of the apartment. He's going to get pounded. No, you didn't. You wouldn't say that on the podcast. You just incriminated yourself.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Why would you do that? That's family business, man. You're not allowed to beat the shit out of your family. Remember, is that some loophole? That's what you really got permission to fuck up your family, right? What's next? John Jones taking the stand against me. Like, yo, this is...
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Starting point is 00:11:00 you have to be like, this is a one time only. If you're getting that sense from somebody, you know, but a lot of times, you know, scumbags, they're good at hiding that. So then you've got to kind of... to like anticipate it. No, that's happened to me. I'm speaking from,
Starting point is 00:11:16 it wasn't a relative, but like, you know, I don't like talking about that shit, but yeah, you can get into that problem quickly. So what I always say to somebody is if you're struggling, all right,
Starting point is 00:11:27 if you're reaching up, I'll try to pull you out. But if you're face down, digging it deeper, I'm not, I'm not helping you out. And that's what you're doing right now. And then, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:35 people who do shit like that usually don't take accountability. So then they try, oh, you changed. And you blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like that. I grew up in a project building with a thousand families,
Starting point is 00:11:46 so I don't got hit with every, I don't pay for 200 funerals. No bullshit. The other day I came out to Nick Game and some random dude came up to me. They, yo, you pay for my uncle's funeral, man. Thank you, Joe. This, like, Survivor's guilt,
Starting point is 00:12:00 my shit is legendary. Like, I took care of hundreds of guys. And they're all pieces of shits, too. They all end up pieces of shits. No, I'm telling you the truth. they all, I wasted my time and my money with these motherfuckers. Like, it's like...
Starting point is 00:12:17 Because of what? Loyalty? Huh? Because of loyalty? Because your sense of saying, you lawyer, look at that, I got a nephew. I've been paying his bills for like, for years and years and years.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Now he's saying he's the squatter. He's not going to move. He's a piece of shit. Right? I mean, there's no other way to take it around that way to get that one back. It's a calculating piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:12:36 It's a piece of shit. Well, he's not that intelligent. Somebody fed him the system. Somebody told John John's system. Then just tell him he isn't right. Because if he didn't read it, he's not going to know it. And then, oh, you don't gamble, though. He gambles.
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Starting point is 00:13:58 That's the move. All you want is normal family, right? Does anybody have normal family? You have normal family? A percentage. I think everybody got a percent. Nobody's whole family is normal. Nobody's family's norm.
Starting point is 00:14:20 No, not every last, you can't go from the whole tree and everybody's norm. Every leaf on a tree. No. You got a crazy family too. What would you describe as your crazy family members? All of us have our own brand of it. All of us have our own.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Yeah, but what would you? compare one of your crazy family members. So what do you mean, to what? Crazy. Like a crazy uncle, crazy aunt. You go to... It's just more like trauma and however you processed it. So like with me, I was like, I used to be.
Starting point is 00:14:57 I kind of had this miracle. I got over my anger, which I didn't think was ever going to happen. Yeah, I just... It's a core heart attack or stroke at this age. Like, you got to calm that shit down. Yeah, yeah. No, it was just time. I was done with, I figured it out through an acting gig,
Starting point is 00:15:14 because I figured, I figured out why I was fucked up. I had to do some scene. I'll just tell it to you quickly. I had to do some scene and I was just reading the lines and it was making me emotional and it wasn't a sad scene and I couldn't figure out why. And I was like, oh, because this is, you know, I don't know, just how you were raised to be a man. You had to like lock away 99% of your emotions.
Starting point is 00:15:38 But when I act, these characters are feeling shit that's in the vault. So I open that up. And what comes out is other shit that's been trying to, because you think like, oh, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:48 if you're going to cry as a guy, like, I'm not crying and you think it went away. It didn't. It's still there. And then it like comes out during the holidays or some shit, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:56 but you should have just fucking cried it out. So I got on the other side of that. I figured that out like, I kind of opened the door. So now I can feel all the emotions. And so I have options rather than flipping out, laughing or saying,
Starting point is 00:16:10 I don't give a fuck. So that's kind of like, and as far as like other people in my family, I don't like talking about what, because, you know, whatever. We all went through it in our own way. So, uh, I processed it finally.
Starting point is 00:16:24 It's weird, man. I didn't think it was going to take that long, but it did. It's crazy. Better late than that. Yeah. No, now it's weird because now I'm like,
Starting point is 00:16:33 kind of happy, go lucky, and I'm not an angry dude around the house. So my wife, you know, she doesn't quite trust it yet. after 20-something years of flipping out over nothing, but now she's starting to kind of understand it. So it's been cool. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Yeah, it's cool, too. You know, I do my art in my office, and I just mind my business. It's like therapeutic, and they know he's in there. And I'm just minding my business. I think she got a good setup. Nowadays, I don't trust nobody. I don't trust shit.
Starting point is 00:17:05 I don't go nowhere. So if that's what you want, wanted your man in that house. That motherfucker's... No, I just... He's got that 600... He's got that 600-yard stare when he's talking about...
Starting point is 00:17:17 I can see all the shit you've been through. Yeah, I'm telling you the truth. I don't talk nobody no more. I don't want to go nowhere no more. I go to Atlanta. I go to Atlanta for... The game. For the game.
Starting point is 00:17:31 When I tell you the second I walk off the plane, most beautiful girl comes up to me Joey, I'm saying the second. You know, all you had there, the door opened up, and you got the girls that do the wheelchair and a beautiful girl. Joey, welcome to the A. I'm like, seek the kingdom, nigga. Seek the kingdom.
Starting point is 00:17:56 I don't know what that means. Stay in the Lord's grace. Seek the kingdom. I walk two, three steps. Joey! I'm like, nah, this ain't. It's the devil's. in the air. I gotta stay
Starting point is 00:18:10 well you know if a beautiful woman was pushing a wheelchair you know there's something wrong well it wasn't her yeah yeah it wasn't her oh all right I was gonna say that doesn't line up with me was like oh I didn't know you were on the same flight as me and just fucking you know
Starting point is 00:18:25 immediately nicely I have a lot of empathy for Nick fans you do yeah I do because one of my best friends Paul Verzzi stand-up comedian like his belief every year it's almost it hurts me as a friend to see how much he believes every October.
Starting point is 00:18:41 It's like that guy who just can't break up with that girl, you know? It's just like, she's going to break your heart. They call me Bendero records. They say him sign a Bendero record. That's like sucker records. Every year, I think the Knicks are going to win. I go through the shit. You got to do some to you, man, because they got the same.
Starting point is 00:18:57 They got the same disease. You don't have it. You sound like you're a fake fan. I'm not a fake fan. So why are you saying we got to anything? You don't need. I'm a fake. I'm a Everything, New York. Yeah, I'm definitely not a giant's a jet strand. I'm everything New York. I'm U.S. Open.
Starting point is 00:19:18 You're a tennis fan? Yes. I heard it in that yes. No, no. He was like, yes. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. You can just tell it to me, Joe.
Starting point is 00:19:29 You don't have to wind up with three intros. Let me tell you something. Today I've had a thing for the white people, but not just because you're obvious. Caucasian, but the Caucasians have kept stuff away from us that we didn't know that we should be... We never knew about
Starting point is 00:19:47 the U.S. Open. I went over there a couple of years ago. Everybody got her mess on. They feeding you lobster. Benny Hines over there. I said this shit, I can get you... There I could be a fucking squad. Not the U.S. Outs. No, the catering. No, the catering
Starting point is 00:20:03 is off the chain. U.S. Open is beautiful. I went to a hockey game two years. years ago, it was the most lit, fun shit you ever been to you ever been to a hockey game? No. The best place you'll ever
Starting point is 00:20:17 go in your life, but the white people never told us that. They never say, yo, this is actually really fun. It's on TV. It's on TV. Joe, it's on TV. It's on TV. It's not the same on TV. I know what you're saying, though, because tennis is not even for all white people.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Well, who's it for then? Certain white people. Yeah, certain. For the elite. Formula one. those are all Illuminati Balls, tennis, F1 Yeah Well that's the thing
Starting point is 00:20:45 They think I'm full of shit No they make all white people Feel like they're part of the Wimbledon club Oh shit So we do what we're supposed to do against you guys So they can take all of it That's what they do So they make it seem
Starting point is 00:20:59 I went to Wimilton last year Joe if I get a worded Yeah I fucking I did I fucking did I feel like I feel like he's on my podcast he's the guest
Starting point is 00:21:15 I went to Wimbledon earlier this year and like dude the level of white there was like it was astounding to me it was astounding to me and I was with this woman I go you want to freak any of these guys out I go just walk up to any of them and just sit down next to him
Starting point is 00:21:30 and whisper in their ear go hey I know what you did and then walk away and just watch them No, that shit is crazy. Somebody did that to me. They all have like that heart attack spray in their front breast pocket. Yeah, I'd be fucked for like a month.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Like, yo, who was that woman that just can't be set that? That would freak me to that. That's the one bugged me to fuck out. But you know what? But they were sitting next to the fucking royals. Before you came, she was here. She's white, right? I think so.
Starting point is 00:21:59 I agree with that. I agree with that. I was talking about. It's different kind of white people. We just told you that. No, no. But I'm confirming. I went to the fucking Atlanta game.
Starting point is 00:22:10 The Knicks in the Atlanta, and they had the white, you know, the white, different kind of white people. The Atlanta? The Hawks. Knicks against the Hawks. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:18 But sitting behind them were these white people, and you know, they're like George Bush and Barbara Bush. Like, it's a different kind of white. Like, they don't get out much. They just come for the game, and they were looking like, who's this fat motherfucker from New York that they were allowing.
Starting point is 00:22:37 To act like a complete asshole. To sit in front of me. Sit in front of me and act like an asshole in the most legendary way. Like, they were trying to figure this shit out. Like, you know they went back home to ride horses and shit like that. Like, this shit was great.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Wait a minute. I know who they all. You also being obnoxious, though. So it's not all them. I'm not a good sport. I'm a bad sport. I'm terrible. You know, in Atlanta,
Starting point is 00:23:03 they built them a brand new baseball stadium. and my people would not drive into it because they didn't like the traffic. So then they just gave it to Georgia Tech, I believe, and then they built a whole new one that has just as much traffic, but everybody shows up now. That's it. You know, the strangest things happen, you know. So I seen Dolan.
Starting point is 00:23:27 You know, Dolan, the owner of the Knicks. Yeah, the musician. The musician, that's my guy. That's my guy. But when I tell you, Dolan looks for the most part, like watch him. Tomorrow's game, he looked like he don't want to stay hot. Dolan, Dolan. I know Dolan.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Because he was at game seven at the last time they was in the Eastern Conference Finals like this. He was asleep. He didn't even get him. I said, yo, he got to be the hardest owner. He was in the front snort. The man saw me at the band. The game seven, the thing is going bad, ban, ban. He liked this.
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Starting point is 00:28:38 I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line.
Starting point is 00:29:04 We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:29:27 You know, I'm into graffiti and they dropped a new video yesterday, right? I'm not guilty for it. And I'm the only asshole running to YouTube to see the guys who hit the train. It's just everybody got their own shit. He wouldn't get off the fucking tables. I got the call. Right? Me, I'm addicted to graffiti.
Starting point is 00:29:47 The tables are fake you get off. What's your addiction, man? Is it good? It was booze. It's not fentanyl. No. No. You worked in Vancouver.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I worked in Vancouver. That fucking Skid Row puts L.A. to shame. Free drugs. Yeah. Well, they decriminalized it. So they just come here and do your drugs. No, no. Sell the drugs to free.
Starting point is 00:30:13 When I went to Canada and I seen this, they let you sell drugs to freeze. This is easy. This is easy. Can't interrupt and then go ahead. Yeah, tell them. Tell them what you were saying about to. Vancouver, let me hear about this.
Starting point is 00:30:28 So this shit is they decriminalized drugs because they acknowledge that addiction is a disease. But they just stopped there. They didn't then try to get him help. As far as I can tell. So they're just out there fucking smoke. It's insane, and everybody folded in half that Fennie fold is insane. Like, dude, I'm telling you guys that before the drugs couldn't touch their toes,
Starting point is 00:30:52 and now their face is like looking at their ass. You're doing Pilates. Yeah. That's what I was joking about. Nobody on fentanyl has ever pulled a hammie. No. Never. They sit there for 20 minutes fucking head down to the ground.
Starting point is 00:31:05 They got the strongest hammies. In Pennsylvania and Philly is called a trink. It's tranquilizer. you in America you what when you go home you go on YouTube and look for Philadelphia Trink you won't believe this shit okay what is that
Starting point is 00:31:23 zombies zombies every time you think they're like it's not going to go further oh no somebody figures it out the furthest it can go other than death as it right now yeah you see them bring guys back to life they overdose and the guys mad that they woke him up like
Starting point is 00:31:38 yo that shit was the best shit why you woke me up you fucked up you fucked up my heart. Like, it's out of control. But what I was going to say to you is I used to sell drugs, right? So there's always a piece of... Dude, your segues are fucking amazing. There's always a piece of criminality.
Starting point is 00:31:57 So when I go to where you said in Vancouver, and I see it, I see shit, you can sell drugs here and not go to jail. It feels like that, right? Like that skid row with you... I didn't look at it that way. I did. I looked at it like, yo, We can make a fucking killing out here.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Like, these guys are letting you sell drugs. Like, it looked like it was legal. And you wouldn't have to hide your money then. No, no, that's what sucks about being a criminal. Is you have to hide your money. You got to drive lesser of a car. Or if you get on the corporate side, you can steal legally. Oh, you can drive down the street with like a top hat on.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Tell you something. I went to Denver. Like one of those bankers from the fucking 1800s. Let me tell you something. All the smart monsters went legal. I used to go. They did. They got to the legal side of stealing.
Starting point is 00:32:43 They went. I used to go to Denver. They figured it out. The first place to legalize marijuana. They're doing all their scams. The fucking lotteries, the numbers, extortion, they do all of that. They do everything.
Starting point is 00:32:54 They do every fucking thing the mob did. They just do it legal. They do it legally. God bless those guys. These are great guys. We got a notorious. That's why I sucked that they caught Luigi. I wanted to see him finish this list.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Yo, you, yo, yo, yo. I wanted to see. PG-13. Oh, yo, with the family shows. See, this is why. This is why I do mine fucking above my garage. You don't give a fuck. No, I do.
Starting point is 00:33:21 You do? I do because I don't want to deal with that because they always do that shit. You know what it is? You can do hunger games. You cannot do reverse hunger games. That's how it works. You can sell them a movie. Yeah, the future, five guys have money and they're running around shooting people.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Oh, wow, that's great. You do it the other way. those people you were eating fucking come back and they're going to kill you guys well I mean that's kind of a message that you know we don't want to put up that's how that works
Starting point is 00:33:48 trust me I know about it yeah that's why I do it above the garage no stipulations you know what you came no stipulations Joe you want to be stipulation free as much as you can you want to limit stipulations
Starting point is 00:34:01 there you go look at that that's your problem Joe you got too many stipulations in your life and you're wearing it on your face get them back You're wearing it on your face. That's why he's dressed in his fucking track suit. He's trying to compensate for all the stipulations in his life.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Let me tell you something, Bill. I grew up with shit. You were dressed like it's Sunday morning. Let me tell you something, Bill. It's Monday. It's the first day of the week. Look at Tony. You look like you just had some cereal.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Yeah, you think, you look like the serial killer in this movie fucking Apex. Anybody seen that movie on Netflix Apex? He looked like the motherfucking killer. He was fucking killing everybody, this guy. No wonder you on fucking Netflix. You was killing everybody. Cherise the area. That's the guy.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Yo, this motherfucker, serial killer. How you bring Luigi's man in this shit right here? Fucking Luigi, huh? How about the fact that whole crime was on camera? That didn't disturb any of you New Yorkers that you live in a police state? I mean, I understand you got to stop the guy. They had him all, until he went behind a tree, they couldn't film him. They had that whole thing.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Yeah, they got that. That's how they solving crime. It's no longer like real. It's true. You've seen Jesse Smolliette, fellow actor. Yeah. Can you just say that name? Smully yet.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Smully yet. I like that. Fellow actor? I think that's better than Smollett. Smully yet. I've seen and heard a lot of shit in my life. Jesse Smoliet took the fucking cake You hear me?
Starting point is 00:35:46 He might as well go down like poor reveal Like react it They back him up He said he got beat up They backed the film up And he's rehearsing choreography With the guys Who beat him like
Starting point is 00:35:56 Yo Jesse Smolliette Dude Jesse Smolliet That's my favorite thing ever He fucking together Oh I got to smell it It's Smollett Just even I know that He's just smully yet
Starting point is 00:36:11 He's saying the wrong thing He likes No I get it That's low key I don't respect you Because you lie So I'm not gonna be respect You enough to say your name right
Starting point is 00:36:21 I like that You know can I take that And pick up the flag After further review Even if I love you I get to further review I understand why you said Smiley yet
Starting point is 00:36:29 I got a bad My bad Me too Replay the down Replay the down My side took the fucking flag back You see this shit though
Starting point is 00:36:37 Two time a felon. That comes with age. You can admit when you're wrong. This guy works on the stage. He's called two time a felon. You're doing a live talk. Can I come come check you out? Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. I want to make sure
Starting point is 00:36:51 100%. I was saying before we came on, him telling that story, the guy taking the dat back. The amount of comedians I sent that to all we talked about was how masterfully, comedically you told that story. It was fucking amazing. Fucking amazing.
Starting point is 00:37:07 You tell her too, brother. There you go. Let me tell you something I hate these guys Dude you are a character man No You are a fucking cat You are
Starting point is 00:37:19 You're not even trying And you just are Listen I Insane It's like a tick He can't say something He said
Starting point is 00:37:33 You grew up in a loud house Listen Let me tell you something I got a Hey Joe has something to say We're here for you, Joe You can just...
Starting point is 00:37:46 You never seen me DJ Callan and Norrie on a regular, not camera, just in the crib eating. Can't nobody get a word? Yo, let me fucking talk. Yo, I got something to say. Can I talk now?
Starting point is 00:38:00 Like, we, this is the whole conversation is Kim, we talk. We're just screaming at each other. Yeah, because nobody's listening. Nobody wants to fucking, you know, everybody wants to... Nobody wants to listen. But what I was going to say is I hate these guys. These guys he's talking about.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Just look. Smoliette? Or we, you've moved on this. Not Smolliette. That's been gone. I'm just trying to keep up. One of the icons that I love living legends, I wouldn't call her auntie.
Starting point is 00:38:31 I just love her so much. Stephanie Mills. And she says she goes where she's celebrated now, but she's tolerant. And there's a lot of motherfuckers that go where they tolerate. Well, you know, we really don't want you here, put you there.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Right? So that's that story that he's telling us, like he took his debt back. Like, what are you even doing? We don't even really fuck with you. You know, and with me, you know, I've been doing this 30-something years. And we went through a phase
Starting point is 00:38:59 where we were the number one guys in the world. So every groupie that you could think of was trying to latch on to us, every groupie. To come 25 years later in the young brother from the Bronx, A. Boogie, now he's the biggest. He says, Joe, I'm doing this big show. Come by.
Starting point is 00:39:17 And I go to his dressing room. And the same groupies from Fat Joe and Big Pun in 1997 are in the A. Boogies. These are grown-man groupies in A-Bugie's room like, yo, you want a piece of cake? You want to this. What the fuck is like? You know, and then they say,
Starting point is 00:39:36 They tell their family I'm in the industry. They tell their family, yeah, I'm in the industry. You know, in this industry, I'm like, what industry is these people fucking talking about? What qualifies you for being in the industry? Tell me that. Being in an industry? No.
Starting point is 00:39:54 No, no, get paid. That can make one. If you're in some type of entertainment, you're getting paid. That's a good one. You know, because these guys, they turn around and say they're in the industry. They tell their families. They broke the shit and their job is groupie. And they get the Dax taken back.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Like, you're my man, we don't fucking know you, man. Get the fuck out of here. Like, I mean, it's amazing to me. That's an end. Just for the record, I understood the story when he told. You understood the story, correct? I understood it, yeah. I didn't know where you were going with that, Joe.
Starting point is 00:40:30 I don't know where the fuck I'm going. I just, it just always lands. It always lands. It's like the fucking art of me. It does. What's that spaceship? The artem. The passengers might not be there when you land,
Starting point is 00:40:45 but you, you, you, you definitely land, land whatever you were flying. That motherfucker fucking going to make sense. And then sometimes I catch a little Alzheimer's or something. Sometimes I freeze up and they'll be like, you what the fuck I'm talking about?
Starting point is 00:40:57 And then I get it. Bam, you was talking about this, Joe. Get it there. You know what I'm saying? Very important. I want to hear about the social reckoning for a minute for you. Oh, socially reckoning.
Starting point is 00:41:11 That was the movie I was doing when I was up in Vancouver when I saw that Skid Row. So I did like a week on that movie. It's Aaron Sorkin movie. And it's not a sequel to the social network. It's a where that one showed how Facebook came about. This is more showing sort of the results, I think, overall of like social media and stuff like that. And it's an amazing script. I can tell you that.
Starting point is 00:41:40 I think it's going to be an amazing movie. I read really slow, right? So when I got the script, it was like 145 pages, and I'm like, oh, fuck, it's usually about 105, 110. So I have to literally be like, all right, I'm going to read 30 pages a day. I'll get through this shit in like four days.
Starting point is 00:41:54 I sat down, I couldn't stop reading it. I went in one sitting, read the thing, and I went there and it was one of the most fun I've had shooting things, you know, cool actors, and Aaron was great. So I think that that comes out in like, October. But it's getting some good buzz I'm already.
Starting point is 00:42:12 And you are welcome to see it, Fat Joe. This is like tennis. You're welcome. You might be the next Marty Supreme. You never fucking know. You never know. The Facebook movie might be like the ping pong movie. You know I met the algorithm.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you, Chris, Bill, because you look very intelligent. Let me ask you question. I feel like you're selling me a bad car. Hey, Bill, you're a smart guy. The hoodie comes up. He's going to do something shady. Like, what's going on? He's about the line, you, Bill.
Starting point is 00:42:49 I met the algorithm. How long is this podcast? No, no, I mean that in a good way. I mean that in a good way. You are, Joe, you're going to get you out of here. You are a fascinating individual. We're going to get you out of the next 30 minutes because my former mobster Joey Melino's here. We don't want them to tell you five. So I'm the appetizer.
Starting point is 00:43:12 We don't want Joey to pull you to the side at this show and tell you, you know, your old dudes to tax and some shit like that. You know what I'm saying? But I'm in Nathan House. My favorite Jewish deli out in L.A. And I'm going to eat my split pea soup. Girl comes over and she says, hey, do you want to meet the owner, Instagram? So I go over there.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I meet the guy. He guys to fucking, I say, oh, shit. You're the algorithm. you control Instagram you're the fucking and he said yeah well you can say it like that Joe I am the algorithm
Starting point is 00:43:45 this guy right wait you met a guy in L.A. and you said you are the algorithm and he confirmed that I met the fucking owner of Instagram he's the algorithm if I own Instagram you wouldn't admit to that and Victor
Starting point is 00:43:58 and fucking Victor meets me and I feel like hey he does photography let me light him up and give him two three million to subscribe I can I'm the algorithm let me tell you something shout out to Michael Jackson's family
Starting point is 00:44:16 the movie's number one in the country Jada he says shit and then when it's your turn to talk he then goes let me tell you something and then and then and then then he keeps going and then he keeps going and he keeps going
Starting point is 00:44:31 you got him he got him you got the easiest job in show business you just sit there you can say that again All Jada's going to do is sit up and go And then he goes, let me tell you something I said, I'm back I went and I saw a band one night
Starting point is 00:44:47 And this guy was talking so much between songs He was driving me nuts because he was great He talked for 10 minutes one time And then said first of all I swear to God I was just sitting there going on the fuck you How about in conclusion All right
Starting point is 00:45:02 You want to know what happens, Bill Is do I have a choice I mean you're going to tell me either way Sometimes you get a gig. Just tell me what happened, Joe. Sometimes you get a kid. How many times a week do you get your beard lined up? Every day.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Actually, my barber fucked up today. It was his birthday. Should have went to act. What's up? He was supposed to come to eight in the morning. I really would add that shit. Every time I see you, it's that leg. You, you, you, you,
Starting point is 00:45:29 fucking paper cut your finger. My shit, looked like 3D, my shit. Like, when I was in jail, the first thing I got was a barber. Swear to God. The first thing I said, who's the best barber in this motherfucker? Mawr-in'clock.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Mawker comes up, Poppy, with the fucking- fucking tail. You were on your own wavelength. I'm telling you to do. You were just your own fucking thing. Who says that going to jail? I got a barber. I don't get fucked in the ass.
Starting point is 00:45:56 He's like, I want my beard to look good when I'm getting sexually assaulted. You know, jail people- What true do I need to align with so I don't get fucked in the ass? This guy, you guys got a post office? He went to jail like Jimmy the jet in his own wing. The first thing I got was a barber.
Starting point is 00:46:20 The barber told me, I said, yo, how much is the most you get paid? Because I pay my barbara hundreds of dollars to cut. Like, for real, right? But you said, the guy, luckily in jail, you can work a month doing some shit and you'll get paid. The Snickers bar. The motherfucker say he wants $5. I'm going to give you $100.
Starting point is 00:46:37 a month. But when I call you... But when not what? When I call you, I don't care who you cut me. What's going on? Yo! Bobby!
Starting point is 00:46:51 You got to lead that. You got to run up here. Was that a smart move, though? Huh? Was that a smart move, though, letting people know you had a hundred bucks? A hundred bucks. I'm fed, you don't fucking...
Starting point is 00:47:03 They know I'm rich when I'm walking down. You fucking great. That's what I'm saying. would immediately attack Fat Joe the second he went in jail. I'd have been like, yo, you got the pay. You got the pay. But anyway, I give him a hundred bucks and I tell him, yo. So I come out there, you know, any given Sunday.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Bobby! Mr. Joe, he started running up the shit in front of the old. He's going to hit my shit a little. It's all a movie. It's all a, you know, it's a production. It's theater. You know what I mean? on your own story?
Starting point is 00:47:39 No, I'm talking to the truth. It's been the way it went. It's part of that shit. I remember this night. Because I got friends who did massive amount of jail time in real jails, right? So I had like a pamphlet, a preparation the night before Pistol Beasts of the Miles. I said, your pistol, how's it going to do for me? Because this is the first time I'm doing time.
Starting point is 00:48:04 He said, just like you live out here, you're going to live in there. You're the dog. He ain't never locked When they had their shit locked down Chef Italian chef Cooking for me Motsamel Fresh homemade ice cream
Starting point is 00:48:17 Motsamel Mozarella homemade Fresh ice cream All type of shit I had a guy used to wash Mysel You can eat ice cream off the fucking floor This shit was so
Starting point is 00:48:28 It's Chinese Your fucking head bill Burr In the fucking floor You get ice You threw that in Because you know I'm not buying all of this What was the
Starting point is 00:48:37 What is that You would have had to pay? Bill, let me explain something. You see how many cameras is in here? There was thousands of guys locked up with me. Ain't nobody say he's lying. Everybody.
Starting point is 00:48:49 I had thousands of guys locked up with me. Ain't nobody say I'm lying. I tell these stories all the time. You ain't got one person come out like, nah, that ain't, no, yes, it's true. Yes, it's true. That Joe had it like that.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Sorry. Sorry, not. Sorry. Bill Bird, they say I can be good at fucking stand-up comedian, but I don't know, man. It's much harder than just telling jokes with your friends. You're that once you established your vibe, because it took me like 10 minutes,
Starting point is 00:49:21 and then, oh, all right, I get this guy. You just say something, and then he answers a different question, and then you just listen. Yo, Bill, you're very sharp. You're sharp because you figure it out. Are you stuck doing this cell phone salesman shit to me? I'm not buying the plan.
Starting point is 00:49:40 No, it takes people. It takes people time to figure out that Joe. You figured me out in 10 seconds. No, 10 minutes. It was 10 minutes. I can't shut the fuck up. I have a problem. What do you think that's, do you think that's trauma-based, ego-based?
Starting point is 00:49:55 Ego-based trauma-based trauma-based. You need to take your hood off, so your head doesn't get too hot. You know what happened was when I grew up, guys like me went until they started. right so I'm from the streets there was a time bill where I used to say you know no pitchers I'm in the club with all the other drug dealers and they're going yo and I'll be like yeah no pics nah can't be in the pics
Starting point is 00:50:19 or there was no storytelling because you couldn't trust nobody to tell the story so all these stories I had I would not even tell them shit see I was the guy you'd be like he's unapproachable he's not a nice guy you would see him from far. You'd be like...
Starting point is 00:50:36 So when did that change? Soon as the podcast and everybody said you could talk and you could be cool now and Drake started making Highline bling. Shit like now.
Starting point is 00:50:44 I know when the Highline bling. That's when you allow to be yourself. Once Drake was like, you, you, you, I said, oh shit. We ain't got to live up to the shit.
Starting point is 00:50:56 We can just... I know when the highlight blink. That's it. I said, yeah, you can be yourself. Fucking be funny. Everybody likes to fucking former gangster
Starting point is 00:51:06 turned funny guy. That's true. Everybody loves that. Remember what the fuck was that movie where the guy was a guy? Was it Robert De Niro? He was a gangster and then turned
Starting point is 00:51:15 into a nice guy? Analyze this. Analyze this. That was a motherfucker of that movie, huh? Everybody likes a funny gangster. Yeah, I agree. I feel like James,
Starting point is 00:51:34 you were selling them weed in the suburbs and shit. I didn't smoke weed until later in life. Yeah? I always stayed away from it. Why? Because this guy when I was in fourth grade came to our school and he told us what it was like to have emphysema. And he goes, make a fist like this and try to breathe through it.
Starting point is 00:51:54 That's what happens if you smoke. So I was just like, all right, I'm not fucking doing that. I was the one kid like he connected with. So I wouldn't smoke anything. But I drank like a lunatic. So I just went that direction. So it wasn't until like my 30s. You know, you can't drink alcohol your whole life.
Starting point is 00:52:12 It beats the shit out of you. So at some point, you know, and I still had my demons, so I needed something to take the edge off. So I started smoking weed. But all the old people tell me that the weed nowadays is not the way it used to be. And it's like it's all like fucking chemicals.
Starting point is 00:52:27 I know guys that, they used to smoke all the time when I was younger in like the 80s. They quit. They quit because they're saying that the weed is too intense. I don't know. Well, I'm looking at it's, heads in this motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:52:38 They're like... Yeah. Did you have to smoke like... All the older guys who used to smoke is the weed the same as back in the day? No, no. They were smoking... They were smoking...
Starting point is 00:52:48 They were smoking... Eat is like TVs. They had the TVs with the big backs on them. Now they got big TVs that's... Grandma can carry his life. You know what I'm saying? That's what happened to the weed.
Starting point is 00:53:02 It evolved. The chemists, they got more resources, more shit. He's right You try to smoke weed With somebody who smoked in the 70s and 80s The weed that they'll blow their fucking socks off Yeah, that happened me at Thanksgiving
Starting point is 00:53:18 I went to give somebody a gummy And she goes, ah, it's not going to do anything for me I go, it's like 10 milligrams She goes, yeah, I need at least 100 So I was like, wow And then like an idiot, whatever she was smoking, I took two hits of And then after I was going like, I shouldn't have done that
Starting point is 00:53:32 And then like I sat down I just wasn't I wasn't at Thanksgiving for like three hours. No, my wife literally kept saying, like people kept trying to talk to me and she kept going, he's useless, he's useless. That's what it was. And you're hearing that in 3D.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Oh, yeah. No, it's like I was paralyzed. Like I was laying like, you're paralyzed. Like people didn't know I could hear them. You're useless. You know, I don't drink. I'll tell you some bullshit my wife did to me, man.
Starting point is 00:53:56 And fucking Norrie helped him. So we have these like lunch dates with his wife, my wife, and we in Miami, and we fucking Bell Harbor. and these guys start, you know, they drink for breakfast, right? So everybody's drinking and Norris starts smoking blunts in the middle of Bell Harp. Like, nah, we violated Bell Harbor like, you've never seen in your life. And, you know, they love us there.
Starting point is 00:54:20 You know, we always shot. Next thing I know is I'm getting, I'm fucking drunk like a boxer where he's about to get knocked out that the motherfuckers on his tip-me-toe. Like, I'm really like this. I'm standing up against the wall. Like, it's like two in the afternoon. I'm like, because I don't really drink. I feel my hand getting pulled, like pulled in the direction.
Starting point is 00:54:42 So I'm getting pulled as my wife. And I'm like stuck inside myself. Like I kind of know what's going on, but I'm so fucking drunk. There's nothing I can do. And she takes me to the store. You know, there's stores, you don't even want to look to the left. The diamonds are so shiny as shit. They are the stores.
Starting point is 00:55:03 We know we can't afford, like grasping shit like that. And you just don't look at that shit when you walk in the mall. And all of a sudden, they open the door. And I go in there. Now, Norrie is supposed to be the drink chair, the more professional guy. He's more drunk than me, stuck. He's stuck. He's worse to me.
Starting point is 00:55:23 They sit him in a chair. The guy comes out and brings out these white gloves. How you doing, Mr. Joe? Your wife's been looking at this neck of him. this here. This is the state of the aunt. I'm like, you
Starting point is 00:55:41 motherfucker. I'm in my head. Fuck your mother. You motherfucker. I'm saying, and she's looking at me like, and I see,
Starting point is 00:55:50 you don't want that, right? Because you know this ain't the store you're supposed to go into. I'm like, you don't want that, right?
Starting point is 00:55:57 She's like, yes. Yes. And I'm fucking, I'm like this, and Norrie looked more scared than me. He's the drink chair.
Starting point is 00:56:05 He's looking at me like, Oh shit. Man, I wind up getting her that fucking necklace. This shit cost so much fucking money. I remember Tippy torn out of that shit. I never did that shit again. They never caught me. I know how to learn my lesson.
Starting point is 00:56:21 You didn't drink near a drink. They never catch me in that fucking place drunk again in my fucking life. That was like 10 years ago. You're not doing it to me. Shame on you. What about George Bush said? You get me one time. Shame on me.
Starting point is 00:56:35 They get me the second time. Fuck, no. I know I seen the play. That's not what he said. You fool me once, shame on you. You fool me twice. Then he got confused. And then he just goes, you're not going to fool me again.
Starting point is 00:56:51 That's what he said. That's what he said. That's why I always said, I went to summer school too. So I always had a soft spot family. I've been there, George. Yeah, we all know what you were trying to stay. It's all right.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Yo, dude. Joe and Jada show.com. We got new merch. Fresh off the presses. Go get it. Bang. Out of big. Bomb.
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Starting point is 00:58:13 Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast, Superhuman, documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:58:42 A win is a win. A win is a win. Yep, that's me, Clipper Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from. from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes,
Starting point is 00:59:08 creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do a little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down,
Starting point is 01:00:05 and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so you all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed. correct. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Thank you for finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Tell us about the tribute to Eddie Mersh. Oh, man. AFI, the American.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Film Institute? I didn't know what it. I'm an idiot. I didn't know if it was AF1 or AFI. I didn't know what it was. I just said, tell us about the Eddie Murphy trip. Yeah, so it was on Netflix, your boys with the stipulations. They were doing...
Starting point is 01:01:12 We love you guys. They were doing a tribute or an honoring of his whole career. So it's on a Saturday night. So it's literally Friday. And my wife. goes, she says to me, she's like, how you feeling about this? You know, because I'm, you know, because I've been so volatile over the years.
Starting point is 01:01:31 She always has to like check my emotional temperature before we go out just to see what she was going to be involved in. So out of habit, she said, how are you feeling? I was like, oh, it's great. You know, I'm showing up to this thing. I don't have to do anything. I get to like, you know, chill out and just watch this show. And it's Eddie.
Starting point is 01:01:45 This is going to be amazing. And literally right as I said that, she got a phone call. And they were asking if I would go up and say a few things. And I immediately got super nervous because it's Eddie. So I quickly said yes before I would like, you know, chicken out or whatever. And yeah, I ended up having to go up there. I don't know how you guys were. But my thing is if I write the whole, because I had a telepromp,
Starting point is 01:02:06 if I write the whole thing out, I am like in robot mode. I am like in my head. And it's like I'm not connected to it. So I had to like, I had to like sort of have an idea what I was going to say. But what was cool was I saw Eddie on the raw tour in, in 1986 at this place what was it
Starting point is 01:02:27 called Great Woods and what was cool was I saw Rodney Dangerfield like a week before because he was coming off of that back to school and they were both huge and they were playing these giant things
Starting point is 01:02:37 and I went and I saw Rodney and he was fun and hilarious and all that but he had like an all white crowd but I didn't notice because I was from the suburbs so it just looked like everything I was going to
Starting point is 01:02:45 but when I saw Eddie he had this mixed crowd and this was before I was a comedian I don't know why that stuck in my head but I remember seeing it. I was like 18. I was going,
Starting point is 01:02:55 this guy is literally, he's making everybody laugh. I'm not shitting on Rodney, but this guy had young, old, black, white, Asian, everybody was there and he was fucking killing. He had the purple suit too.
Starting point is 01:03:05 I wanted to ask him about that. He was like, did you have more than one? Did you wear it the whole fucking tour? He probably had more than, yeah. I don't know. Some guys wear the same shit
Starting point is 01:03:13 the whole tour, like, and they're not broke. They just, that's the cops. Makes sense. Yeah, you coming. Yeah, but that's how watching him do that.
Starting point is 01:03:20 I was thinking, you know, If I ever did stand-up, I would want to be able to make everybody laugh. You know what I mean? So it was really one of the best lessons I ever got. So anyway, I got to go up and say a few words, and it went great, but it was super intimidating because it was him, all 10 of his kids, whoever they married, it was like the Kennedy family of like comedy, like just stare at you.
Starting point is 01:03:43 40 years later, it was really crazy. You know what I love about Eddie Murphy, in our line of business, music, A lot of the icons, a lot of the entertainers we looked up to, either got on drugs or fucked up, they broke. You see them, and it feels like horrible. You see some of the guys who made the biggest songs or made us laugh the most or whatever. And when I seen that documentary,
Starting point is 01:04:09 and it just opened up on Eddie Murphy in like a $90 billion house, I was like, yes. Yeah. This motherfucker ain't get high. You know my favorite thing? He said in that documentary, he said, yeah, he goes, I never got into drugs or anything. He goes, I loved myself,
Starting point is 01:04:24 which I've never heard a comedian say. You know what I mean? It was cool. So even though y'all funny and y'all use humor, a lot of y'all got like dark past and shit like that and go through some shit. Yeah. Well, that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:04:37 So you use humor, like a lot of times something fucked up happens in the news and then you have a joke about it and they think it's because you don't care. It's the opposite. It's like a way of not feeling the feeling that you make a joke so you can get past. so you can deal with it and blah, blah, blah. Some people, you know, some people go into music.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Some people go this way. Comedians, what we do is we use humor. And the thing that I think is hard about that for your personal life is like, it's denying the feelings. So you just sort of stay walled off. And that can become difficult for you and the people in your life after a while. Fact. You need that outlet.
Starting point is 01:05:18 You know, you need that outlet. To me, music is therapeutic, so I don't care how... You know, the other day I'm writing this song, and Dre tells me, y'all, they know you're not killing motherfuckers in the bodegas, Joe. They know you're not selling drugs no more. But I just don't know how to not make violent music.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Like the music, the music comes on. I just get the killing. No, that's the fucking truth. Last year, I left Santropay. We was on vacation. I got on the La Stanza First Class, this. I threw a beat on. kill your mom's nigger, yo, it's on, this stuff.
Starting point is 01:05:52 I don't know how to not do that. So do it. Yeah, why don't you talk about being court-sized at Atlanta? Well, we do that too. Yeah, you could. You know, of course, out of Atlanta, this is the one time I got security. By the way, Bill, everybody's scared of me. I don't know if you know.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Everybody's scared to be. And my security, I got security, but he pretty much, we feed him and we pay him for free. Because he's never had to have an argument with one. person in this life, right? And I told them when we went to that Atlanta Hawks game, I said, listen, this is going to be the first time in your life you're going to earn a check
Starting point is 01:06:28 because I'm ready to fight the whole stadium. I'm going down for my Knicks. Thank God everybody was gracious. Everybody showed us love, but I'm an asshole when it comes to my next. I got to go over there. Damn. Why are you blaming other
Starting point is 01:06:45 teams? Why are you blaming other teams? It's not the Atlanta Hawks fault where the Knicks have been. They're just doing what you're trying to do. Why you take it's misdirected anger? No, no, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got to go.
Starting point is 01:07:01 You didn't want to hear that. You just goes, ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you having a nervous breakdown? Like, what is happening right now? Like, what the fuck? It just got eerily silent here. You know what happens is some people, man? Some people just, you're right.
Starting point is 01:07:17 You're fucking right. Like, it's like, you know, some people got problems. I got to fucking. I'm just going to start doing what you're doing. I'm just going to do what you're doing. That's it. You see, just do this. You do this every once in a while.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Stretching out. You know what I mean? Come back. Come back. You're really, you're patient. You got that down. I'm trying to work on that. Patience.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Well, if I had another guy that was crazy like me, we had beef with the whole fucking planet Earth. Thank God he could pull me down. Joe, chill, relax. What are you really upset about? If you had your nephew? Nah, I don't get the fuck about him. I didn't really know he was a piece of shit.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Well, your nephew's affecting your life way more than the Atlanta Hawks. And it seemed like you had way more, you had way more, like, aggression towards them. If I'm upset about anything, it's that, I hate getting old. Like, I like to be forever young, and I want to live forever.
Starting point is 01:08:18 So I want the drugs to hurry up and come. I know once I die, they're going to make the shit and make you live for 200 years. No, you got the shit that make you help the peptides and all that but I want to shit.
Starting point is 01:08:29 You like the direction shit is going in? You want to see how this plays out? Nah, this is going to play out. They're coming out with cars in 2027 that have all AI surveillance. They're setting this up where one person can run the world
Starting point is 01:08:42 because their armies used to get spread out too thin, you're on two fronts and you would lose. So this is what they're doing. Like those fucking cars, man, that don't have a driver, they're going to sell those to people like,
Starting point is 01:08:54 oh, yeah, now you can fucking sleep on the way to work. And it's like, yeah, that's also your own police car. Like if they decide to make you think you're going to the gym, you said the wrong thing, they're taking you into that fucking alligator island. There's nothing you can do. Sitting in your sweatpants, Joe, sitting in your sweatpants. I've been thinking about buying me over the barber down there and you're not.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Are you going to own a robot? There's no post office. Are you going to own robots? No, I... You live long enough. Are you going to own robots? You got robots now. No, no, I'm going to own a fucking robot.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Yo, made me Kanegi Shah. See, that's the mistake is you think you're going to own it. That's the mistake. The robot's going to own me? Yeah, that's a surveillance. You're bugging your own house. Everybody, they're doing with a fucking refrigerators. Oh, no, everybody's bugged in their house.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Yeah, why? You see this guy, he killed the girl, the fucking... The singer. What's his name? Joe, don't get a robot and bring it in your house. I haven't heard of them. I'm already surveilled all fucking day. They tap my ass.
Starting point is 01:09:56 I'm tapped out. Lights went out off that. I'm fucking tapped. The lights went out. That gave from the Lord. The Lord. Yeah, the Lord turned the lights out. They tapped your ass.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Now, that's the super pause. What I'm trying to tell you is that. I was trying to tell you that the barber isn't your biggest problem when you go to jail. You don't even got it. Your ass. Fucking tags. Everywhere you go, we're tap
Starting point is 01:10:24 for some reason, good stuff, though. I drove my wife's call the other day, and I tried to get my Bluetooth in. I want to hear some Jain,
Starting point is 01:10:31 right? And it wouldn't take. And one of my friends would say, man, you have a good luck. It didn't go into your wife's shit.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Every phone call come your way is they can hear everything. You know, when you got your phone to the laptop, my man was like, yo, man,
Starting point is 01:10:48 God is looking out. He tried make sure your phone don't go up on the fucking. shit. You know? I don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:10:57 But yeah, I think we're surveilled. I don't never feel like we're not subail. So I don't never say shit that I wouldn't say if there weren't 100 people right in my face.
Starting point is 01:11:09 And even if it sounds bad, I don't give a fuck. I would say it in front of 100 people. Sometimes I'm very opinionated. Sometimes I say some shit that I just don't give a fuck. I'm going through that trauma, used to go through the...
Starting point is 01:11:24 You got it, Bill. You got it. Yeah, Bill, you got it. Yo, Bill, let me tell you something, man. Let me tell you something, man. Let me tell you about the number one ratings, Bill. We came, speaking of the robot, we came, we put up the podcast.
Starting point is 01:11:41 And let me tell you something. These other podcasts, they look like fucking dinosaurs right now. They're doing like the fucking robot man for real. Like, I try to look at all these podcasts, maybe 10 minutes. I'm like, man, these guys are trouble. Like, you even get with the program or not, our shit got fluidity.
Starting point is 01:11:58 I shit every day, we've got a different... Fluidity. We got a different... Can't you just do a podcast to not start beef with every other podcast out there? I mean... My shit is beef. It's a really...
Starting point is 01:12:11 It's a peaceful space to create. Anybody can do it. You don't have to come after all these people. Now, I want beef with everybody. But you figured it out. You think there's only one Except who you're going after first I went at every time
Starting point is 01:12:25 Is Ellen DeGeneres have one you don't like? I tried though I tried Like I'm not going to lie to you I'll try to start like the East Coast West Coast North South podcast I tried first episode I was like
Starting point is 01:12:36 Fuck everybody Whoever one Nobody responded Like Nobody responded Nobody responded Nobody waited Nobody wait for it
Starting point is 01:12:46 All right I can't I can't How much longer? Like, well, you... I just can't, like, this... None of this shit makes... You want to beef with Pete Davidson?
Starting point is 01:12:56 You don't want to beat with Pete? You start everything. You just step into insanity. There's like the logical and you just... Step into insanity. Ew. You just step into... Yeah, like, I have been trying to go talk to you.
Starting point is 01:13:11 And it's just like, I don't know where to jump in. Bill Burr... People who really know you, they'd be like, yo, that's the wrong guy that give you that fucking therapy right there. Two time. We got a coffee. NBA talks. So you're like, what's your team? Did you just order a coffee in the middle of all of that?
Starting point is 01:13:27 That was just like fucking, like, what just happened? You were here, you went out of a restaurant. You just said you were in a fucking Taliban cave shooting your show. You don't give a fuck. It's connecting to the phone. You're good to go. We got this one off. I said a hotel room.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Same shit, hotel room. If you put that light to see where the Stevens had in that fucking room. You wouldn't want to sleep in that bitch. All right. I'm glad I fucking did my podcast before I talked to you. Jesus Christ. All right,
Starting point is 01:13:59 you're going to bring up what? NBA? I'm a hockey guy. I watch hockey. Oh. Yeah. I heard it. That's what I do. When somebody brings up NBA, I go. Who's left in the playoffs, right? Oh, it's the first round. So everybody's left
Starting point is 01:14:13 to the playoffs. Who's the best team in the hockey? Probably the avalanche. And I'd say in the east is probably Carolina. But the best first round matchup has been, I feel, has been Canadians versus the Tampa Bay Lighten. Like the first three games went into overtime. And then also it's good when, it's good for hockey when the Canadians are good, even though they're like. Always, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's like baseball wasn't fun when the Yankees sucked in the 80s. It's like, as a Boston fan, I want to beat them. But I don't want to beat them when they stink. You know,
Starting point is 01:14:45 you want to Boston. Once I went to Boston and I had a Yankee hat on and no fucking restaurant would let me eat dinner there because I had a Yankee hat on and I wouldn't take the shit off. I went to like eight fucking restaurant. You guys are terrible over there, boss. I hate the Yankees like that, right? We did until we won. And then
Starting point is 01:15:03 the movie ended. And then ESPN tries to keep it going, but there's... It's not the same. Yeah, so you would chant in 1918, then we won, so you can't chant that. You got 27. Nobody's going to catch up with that. So there's really nothing going on. But at this point, it's kind of about the Dodgers where there's
Starting point is 01:15:19 sort of like a hedge fund spending like a billion dollars. I don't know. I'm not into that. Like it's going to cause a strike, I think. The Dodgers? Yeah, because then other players are going to want to get paid the way they're getting paid on the Dodgers. And then the other owners, certainly the owners like the Pittsburgh Pirates who should be kicked out. Their owners should be kicked out. They're not going to want to pay anybody. So then they'll be like a lockout and that dumb shit. So the Pittsburgh Pirates don't pay? Well, because they have like that whole, you know, somehow like the
Starting point is 01:15:49 collective revenue of the TV contracts. I don't know how it is, but like they can somehow own that team and never try to be competitive and still make like millions and millions of dollars. No, it's, it's brutal because they were... So it's like a tank. Yeah, they've been tanking since Barry Bond. Since Willie Starrjew. No, no, Willie Stardle was the real deal.
Starting point is 01:16:09 But they were winning them. They won in like 61. They won one in the early 70s, and they won in 79. And didn't do so well in the 80s. And somewhere along these guys came in and bought that team. And that ended up And they were just in it for the money It's terrible
Starting point is 01:16:25 You know what's crazy is I'm a big Yankee fan But I really love that guy The Dodgers, the Asian guy Fucking incredible This guy He'll pitch a game You don't hit a home rock a game
Starting point is 01:16:39 He'll play the outfit once you This guy is fucking No he's in Babe Ruth He's second coming Better than Baybrook Yeah because he's playing against everybody he's pitching, he's playing the field,
Starting point is 01:16:52 he's fucking hitting, he's better than Babe Ruth. Babe Ruth did win his Cy Young for pitching, though. He did? Yeah, he did. I didn't know. No, I didn't know. The babe. You got any of your fucking, uh, intelligent questions over there?
Starting point is 01:17:09 I asked them things that he came here to be asked. Now, let me tell you something, man. Oh! Listen. Yo, Bill, man. Thank you for coming to the show, man. Don't forget my tickets, man. I'm coming to see you live.
Starting point is 01:17:27 It was an honor to come here. I'm a huge fan of both of you guys. And I love what you're doing here. Thank you. And, yeah, I, you know, this is that Eddie Murphy thing I learned. Go on every podcast. Everybody comes to your show. It's a better show.
Starting point is 01:17:42 So, yeah. Because they have me on the white guy email list, Live Nation does. So they just put out the blast and I couldn't figure out why. Because I would come and I would, you know, wherever I would be,
Starting point is 01:17:51 I'd run into some black guy would come up to me and be like, oh, man, I love your shit. When are you doing a show? I was like, oh, I was last night. I was right over there. How come I didn't know?
Starting point is 01:18:01 You know what I think? They have a white email. Yeah, that's what they do. Certain white people don't know they're cool in the hood like that. Like they just don't, because fucking last week, Mori Bovich came there
Starting point is 01:18:13 and I fucking thought like, the best guy in the fucking universe I didn't know how much I'm a fan of Mori I sitting here like what the fuck this is Mori COVID you all the father the whole time I swear to God I'm like this shit is fucking no but I think that's one of the best things
Starting point is 01:18:33 as a performer when someone as different as you could be comes up and says that they like your stuff you know some guy from like Kazakhstan stop me on the street and was saying oh I love you I love your stuff. I was just like, all right, that's, that's, you know, you got a comedy club over there?
Starting point is 01:18:49 I'll head over. You know, you go to Morocco, they got the little guy. You know about the little guy? He ain't got about this little. All right, his hoodie's up. So I'm in. I'm in on this one. Have you met the little guy?
Starting point is 01:19:05 There's a little guy. By the way, this did not come unnoticed that this match is this. I mean, I don't know how long it takes black guys to get dressed in the morning, but that is fucking impressed. That is impressive. That would take me six months just to find that. Just to find that. Let me tell you something.
Starting point is 01:19:23 There's a little guy. There's a little guy in Morocco. My car, that's a fucking grown man with a suit. I'm just big. And you made him be in the clubs and shit like that. How did you meet this guy? In the clubs. But, you know,
Starting point is 01:19:43 we got the proof. French Montana came east from Morocco. He said he knows the little guy. And then with seeing video and pictures, we got to meet the motherfuckers. There's a little guy in Morocco. What does he do? He's smaller than a watermelon.
Starting point is 01:19:57 They got a picture of him with a suit on a watermelon sitting like he's on the fucking Mount Rushmore. He's that little. He's got a vibe. He's the man. He's got a vibe. He's got a vibe. Because you said Kazakhstan.
Starting point is 01:20:10 The only thing I can think of a character stand is boring. Borat. Borat. Borat. Oh, my God. No, because Kazakhstan, I thought this guy up like, I want to hear about this guy.
Starting point is 01:20:22 He's a lie. Go Google this guy. That's who he's talking. He's the real guy. Everybody thought I was lying. Yes. That's bullshit. That's bullshit.
Starting point is 01:20:36 He ain't real. First of all, he's like six. No, he's a grown man. Where's the camera? Yeah. He still looks like, I'm not saying he's not a dwarf. Did somebody get how old he is? All right.
Starting point is 01:20:55 Okay. He's too young to be in the club. Whatever the fuck you are. No. I knew a Dominican guy like that too. Apparently those little guys, they like the club. I think you got a fetish, dude. I've been to a bunch of fucking countries.
Starting point is 01:21:09 I don't run into these little guys in suits. I can't fucking believe it. In that picture, Bill, he was 20. He's a grown-ass fucking man. Nelson died, the one from... He knows multiple of them. Sont of the Minka. A new guy used to hang out with us in the Bronx.
Starting point is 01:21:26 You know who used to hang out with us, Stephen Baldwin? You know, Stephen Baldwin? Yes. The handsome brother. He used to come down to the Bronx with us. What happened? The handsome brother. He used to hang out with us.
Starting point is 01:21:44 You know, I got to do a benefit tomorrow. Just let you know if you're going to wrap this. My brother. All right. All right. All right. Y'all check this out. This ain't that.
Starting point is 01:21:51 That ain't this. It's cracking kiss. Make the noise for Bill Burr, baby. All right. Hey, thank you so much for having me. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, brother.
Starting point is 01:22:03 That was a laugh. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all. Embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds.
Starting point is 01:22:26 I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your 20s can be so exciting, but they can also be really overwhelming, confusing, and honestly, just kind of lonely. May is Mental Health Awareness Month, and the psychology of your 20s is breaking down the science. behind the biggest roadblocks we face. I was six years into my career, the 80-hour weeks, and just the first one in, the last one out, and I ended up burning out. There was a large chunk of my 20s that I, like, was just so wanting to, like, be out of that phase out of my skin.
Starting point is 01:23:03 And I just, like, really regret not living in the present more. You don't need to have everything figured out right now. You just need to understand yourself a little bit better. Listen to the psychology of your 20s on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Saigon, the story of my family and of the country that shaped us. From IHeart Podcasts, Saigon. You don't think I'm serious about a free Vietnam? One city, a divided country, and the war that tore America apart.
Starting point is 01:23:33 This is for Vietnam. They're pouring patril all over here. Freedom for Vietnam! There's a fire coming to this country and it's going to burn out everything. Listen to Saigon on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Joey Dardano, and on my new podcast, Hope From a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with thoughtful solutions. Sike, I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice.
Starting point is 01:24:00 Join me and my comedian friends as we riff, rant, and recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to me. This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from a Hypocrite Wednesdays on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. podcasts.

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