Joe and Jada - Buju Banton DEBUTS “Butterflies” + talks Jamaica’s hip hop roots, dancehall history & summer tour w/ Stephen Marley

Episode Date: April 16, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by Buju Banton, the legendary Jamaican dancehall icon known as the Gargamel. Buju breaks down his early days in New York with Cool & Dre, DJ Khaled, Joe and Big Pun, chops it up about the history of dancehall from Yellowman and Shabba Ranks to Lady Saw, and discusses Jamaica's deep roots in hip hop with artists from Biggie, KRS-One, Slick Rick, and more having ancestral ties to the island nation. Buju also debuts his new single “Butterflies” dropping April 17th produced by Supa Dups, previews a summer tour with Stephen Marley, and drops countless gems on staying true to the art in a cutthroat industry. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX! Merch is here! https://joeandjadashow.com/ All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet 6:00 - Origins of the name Buju Banton 9:30 - Early days in NYC w/ Joe, Pun, Khaled 13:00 - Buju's superstar status in Jamaica 18:00 - Yellowman, Shabba Ranks, Major Worries 34:30 - Premiere of NEW SINGLE "Butterflies" 53:30 - KRS-One vs. The Juice Crew 59:00 - Lady Saw and the history of women in dancehall 1:09:30 - Show up & support your legends!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He's the goat. Lion. To say the least, the lion. Strong like lion from Zion. He's the goat. Nobody fucking with Bujabon. Yeah. Call him Gargan Matt.

Take a 10-year hiatus. Come back sound brand new. 20 years old. Only person they can. They're not allowed to be in the States and still run the States. Never be. been done before. Let's go, Jay.

He kicked them out of the United States, and he still was able to run, have it in a chokehold. That's right. Ladies and the gentlemen, make some noise. You could call him Gagermann. Gagerman. Call him Buzhouantan. The Gondas. The young.

Don. Not to him respect. Back home, Mr. Big respect to Fat Joe. Many, many years of friendship. Big respect to Jay that case is likewise. Thanks to you guys to have him.

You're stopping me on your program on the podcast. It's a pleasure. So honor, okay, honor. Fucking boojibontans. Dawn, nigga. We're doing shit, man. That shit ain't no normal shit.

We had Michael Jordan yesterday. Now we got fucking Buja Bontan. This ain't a game right yet. Step by step, brick by brick, a building. You know, everybody, I know you're humble. I know you show everybody love and respect, but ain't nobody boojubanthas.

I don't give a fuck. Nobody. Who it is? This couch, there's royalty on the couch. Nobody's budge bond turned to Don Gargamel since the 90s all the way to now the biggest. You went on tour, you went aboard an airplane.

You came back. Y, I never seen nobody like, yo, boojoo think, yo, yo, yo, boojoo left. Let me tell you something. Booj you left when the money was real good. No, no, no, no, no, no. Bujoo left when the money was real good. He came out, Joey was money, Joey.

I said, yo, Boudi, you know where you're going to get to the next thing. I know a month later, he bought his own airplane. I said, yo, Bujo, I ain't got no fucking airplane. He got right to it. He got right to it. Yo, Budjo, I love you, my brother. I love you too, brother. Yeah, Joe is right.

I came home. Touch base, I feel my friends, one of the most important questions. A couple questions. Like, how are you, who the family? Next question was, where the money at? Where is it? What's going on? What's going on in the industry?

What's going on in the world of what we know. in music business. What's going on? He's right. Yeah, Budja, you know, it was the guy in Africa, fake guy, used a budger name.

You know, I dissed him on TV. That was when I was hosting the, what was it, the Wendy Williams show? Shut him down. He changed his name. Yeah. I told him there's only one Budja Bond town

that Don Gagamelt this down. TV, it went back to Africa. The guy changed his name. Now he's X-13-12 or something. Marlbucka-old changed his shit. I don't play that shit. And then Bucro. You know, like most people get the name from their friends.

They get a name from, you know, do some stupid ship and people name them. My name came from my mom. Yeah. So it wasn't a name given to me by my friends. And I took the name Bantan due to my adoration for Burr Bantan and his music and deliver in the dance. You know, because ever so often we have to keep reminding the people that there's a distinguished difference between a DJ in Jamaica and a DJ here. I didn't usually hear the guy who plays the music, the BJ in my country's guy who hold onto the microphone and talk on the version,

his piece and the beat. So, from in those, he was Burr Bantam, you know, came to America, made a name for himself. So the bojo came from my mom and the bantam came for my adoration for his craft and how he needs to play his musical, talent in the dance. So it's not something that is given to me by a friend and so on and so forth, so. When a young man came and said the name Bojo, I knew the problem it poses because automatically

most of the algorithms is run now Western ways, and all the algorithms start getting confused. They're going to who's Bojo. So we had to regulate that to make sure that, you know what I mean? You have to find a new name. Yo, I did that shit on TV. I got a phone call, a silent phone call for somebody.

I said, you did the right thing, Joey, hung up the phone. I said, all right. Well, I probably can't go to that part of Africa no more. But he said, I swear to God, we got mutual friends. Alaparte. The everybody. Call up, Mr. Joe, you did the right thing. a fugitive.

Yeah, yeah. He used to tell me this shit back in the day. Eat fish, Joey. Joey just eat fish, Joey. Joey, don't do this and this and that. He was the first guy talking that health shit to me back in the day. I go like this. I'll tell you one story, Courtney.

I do Disney work. So I'm gangster rap or whatever. I hit one out the park. What's love? Just white people love me all over now because they know what's love. Like, it's like I hit one out of the park. So I'm doing Disneyland. So I do Disneyland and I bring

Boodja with me. I'm like, yo, Buju come through, he comes through. Bood you come out there. He started ripping it down. And then he starts saying, you know, Disneyland and the Lujan. These people, he's starting to shit on the... Right.

Turn the mic off. Turn the mic off. Please, look at these people here, Joey. I'm like, yo, boy. So, you have got many tales because once I land in New York City and, you know, the hood and everyone from the community knows that I have my community, I'm broken arms. My next is Joey Prack. So you see a, you see a Mercedes Ben's stay like this coming through a hotel.

Big pun on that Ben's a fair, you know what? That's Joey. What you know? How is he? The car was leaving. What? I go one day. I go one day.

Go ahead, bud, you can't get. So, we have many good days. We know we spend most of our time in the studio. We're working with Cool and Dre, DJ Khalid. Yeah, I mean, all of his crew at the time. Big pun, the boss. You know what I mean? Those days, Jabba.

97 Jabba was around as well. Bobby Candice. We got to salute Bobby Candice and Jabba for holding out. What about David Levy? I never seen David Levy in my life. I never met David Levy. Me. We've been fucking listening to him since we was baby.

Rocking you, rocking you, rocking you, rocking you, rocking you, rocking you. No, he is. I listen to him still. And those people are quite instrumental and important to the development of music and the growth of the Caribbean music on this side of the world. Because even though they might have an hour one day or the week, It was so important that everyone tuning just for this hour.

And it has grown now somewhat. We know the advent of internet. You have internet radios everywhere. You got Spotify. You got all type of shit. But that would leave you know. Back of the day, those guys paid the news. Oh, big time.

They overpaid. Big time. These guys, they kept the true to reggae music since day one. Like, who's some of the, what you know, you introduced me. Big youth. Big youth.

The legend. Big youth. Tell these people, they don't know Big youth. Big youth the first. Yeah. Fat Joe hang out with Big U. Yes.

Tell them, Bojew. The dreadlocks down to the fucking street. You tell them, Bojoo. You fucking tell him, Boj. You fucking tell on Jamaica's. He's going white place road on me. Big Ute.

Yeah, so we sound old, you know, because the Caribbean It consists of many different nations of which Puerto Rico is apart and do they are more closer to the line to the Americas. Nevertheless, we see them as a part of the Caribbean

Union. So it's this togetherness where we don't see anyone based on invisible borders which was designed geographically. So the people have Puerto Rico, all other islands who welcome them as long as Panama. We welcome them into our culture.

That's just who we are. We'll show them love and, you know, hanging out with Joe, and he out with pun and he noted all of his friends and he an an out with my peeps holding a good vibe and going to the club

shit go down in the clubs we all stand up together that's right you know what no matter what yo we just want to let y'all 1800 is the fish you tequila of Joe and Jada

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A staple. Known for craftsmanship and consistency. You know what I mean? 1800. 1800. Boja, let me tell you something. I was scared to fly. So I knew Boudi when I was scared to fly.

I had my first show in Jamaica. By the way, everybody talks. Budja don't talk like that. But everybody talks. everybody say this, everybody say that, everybody's this, everybody that. Who's just such a superstar? Okay, you wasn't there at that dinner with Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan was explaining to me the difference of a star and a superstar.

Budja Bontan cannot eat in the Jamaican restaurant. Budja Bancan can not be in the Jamaican section. If he goes to the store by the time he comes out, There's 1,000 guys outside. There's nothing he could do. Mark Anthony cannot eat in the Puerto Rican restaurant. He cannot go into. Because these guys are super star.

So he used to escape the Jamaican community and hang out with the Puerto Ricans in the Bronx with us. Yeah, you know, if you knew them, you knew them. If not, you know, it is what it is. He's hanging out over here, nobody harassing him. He's good to go. You got Bad Bunny, right? And Bad Bunny's biggest star in the world.

And he's going, the Bronx, Washington Heights, it's a direct. I don't know, you can be in Puerto Rico and say, Yonkers, Warburton, not the next street over from Puerto Rico is the Bronx. There's just no way. It's the next street. In Jamaica, New York City, well, maybe Miami, too, but New York City, like he said, every week, they listen in the Jamaica to Davin, Levi, and Bobby. It's just so direct.

You come from Jamaica, you're going to even a far rock away, you're going to 233 white play. It's just too much of a direct. The Jamaican community is quite integrated in America. Nevertheless, New York has been good to us, ever since the early days, the early advent of dance and music, traveling out of Jamaica,

it was primarily to Canada and New York City. In those days, you used to have clubs like love people, but are you guys maybe not even old enough to remember by the fellas they might know love people. The underground with David Levy, Billmore Barroom, Jimmy's... Jimmy's... He's an act...

Act of a three. Owned by name. What? Yeah. And there was at the Tilden Barroom, you know, Albany Manor. And there are so many places where the community would gather

to express themselves and the music grows, you know? So we're all integrated and we have played a part, even though, I mean, a lot of people do not wish to acknowledge it. Our cultures with one multicultural and melting parts. It started everything. So, you know, Jamaica started the Afro beats. We know everything comes from Africa.

Panama with El General. El Henela started Reg Ate's home. Yes. You know, he cursed me out one day. Butja, come on. No, I swear to God, I got to give it. He won a big pun on a record. I told him $50,000.

He told me, "'Lasin, fat, motherfucker, suck my dick. Fuck your mother. I'm in hell right, this. I'm listening on the phone. I'm like, I'm dying laughing because I can't believe in hell of dollars cursing me.

I fuck you. I'm the legend of legends of Latinos the nerve of you to charge me. That fuck you this. Hung up. I said, yo, eh, ha. I was a real motherfucker, boy. That's my dinger right there.

You don't get it, y'all? Boom, boom, mommy, mommy, you don't mean. But, blah, blah, uh. So ever since then, you know, we've seen where it has ours will provide. Because it's expression, right? It's expression for those who not normally get the same medium to express their inner feelings are, their creative side. We see where various nations from the Spanish-speaking community,

start a dent ever since anything now. So we'll find yourself over here in our Puerto Rico, find yourself all over, various. I would love it. We appreciate it because you're taking our culture further. And I mean, like many people might

feel like, I mean, sometimes when I speak about this issue, they might get offended. But I was asking, simply, acknowledge it. I acknowledge from whence. You got to acknowledge it. I said, you got to acknowledge it. And that's the problem. with I think this generation

or not even this generation or generations. It's right there. Don't lie to us and don't acknowledge it. Like, you know what you're doing. You know what you did. From everybody, you understand? Because there's something very spiritual

about Jamaican music and Jamaica. There's something that transcends when I'm in Germany and I see a white boy with fucking dreadlocks and Jamaican shit, the straight white man playing the fucking reggae shit all day. This is a different, this is, for such a small island to just go globally.

They're Japanese Jamaicans. There's all type of Jamaicans. Like, everybody falls in love with Jamaica and the culture. You know, you just got to acknowledge it. Like, I'm with you with that. I'm with you with that. You know, we had a legend. Pass away, big legend.

Willie Cologne started South of Music with Hecht de Lavo, who I think is the greatest of all time. And, man, they did his funeral yesterday. He'd come out in the casket, and they go, conum-pum-pong, pong, pong, pong, with thousands of people in the street. And I'm watching it on the Instagram, and I'm like, man, they saluted him like a king.

We lived. We lived. We lived. And so, you know, there's legends. You know, Boudja, you come up. Who you come up? Shabarang, that whole beginning era. I come up in the era when the music was turning, just turning.

I come up when you have guys like Floorgan, Red Dragon, Daddy Lizard, Clement, Iri, Pampe, do. You had early block, dignitary, stylish, general, Yeah? Nicademus, Chakademus, Tullotty. I come up, Admiral Bailey, Major Worries.

In those days, Major Worris was like the teacher for all DJs. Major Worris was a teacher for all DG's. Major Worris was way ahead of his time. Major Wors was the first one who taught us to really flock to it

and maddenly improvised like computer pan hall of a really. Yeah. And after the major died, you know, Admiral breakout, Shabarang's breakout. So then they became the next set of mentors or we have to look up to. But originally,

Jamaica music, dance and music, was never ever something from uptown. It was always a road boy music, you know. The streets, uptown they called like, rich people like he saw them how they come from the streets. Yeah. It was so much so that

you could not even let your parents know that you have musical aspirations. Because, you know, the people who represent it was bad boys. You know, every one of them in those days was singing about their experience that they had in the ghettos.

Until the passage of time, things changed so much that the very music that was once despised, ridiculed, and Their children were not even to play it or go near it. They started to encourage their children to become a part of that music. Now, bear in mind, we sang from our experience, where it be hardship, gang warfare, political warfare, political tribalism, police brutality,

you know, woman, man-on-woman drama. We sing from our reality, and we make that into something that other people can identify because for some strange reason, we might share the same experience, but we never talk about them until someone sings about it, then we can open this air

because someone, someone identified the elephant in the room. So come now, full circle, everyone sings about their experience, but somehow we have lost a piece of what this really is. I only really come from. You know,

I grew up in an industry where there was always the king of dancer, which was Yellow Man. And it was the people who said him was the king, voted for him. And I didn't hear anyone say Yellow Man lose this crown. Because the man to keep the foundation. But you might not even know a Yellow Man song to date. Many people might not even aware of an arts by the name of Yellow Man who made such a great impact on the dance song community. to bring it international before the ranking.

So after Yellow Man, as our first, international, dance and superstar, we had Shabar ranks who were following him foot school to take the music further. What's my guy off? Lex. Turn to that, motherfucker. And Matt Cabra as well. Cobra ring off here.

He was killing out here. The music was, we could identify him with songs. You would find yourself just go. going through some things and you hear us standing to remind you of a time when you was in school. Big time. I remind you of something that happened on, would you have among your friends, they became time markers now.

The music began time markers. We hope and pray that will remain the same for generations to come. Yes. So that reggae music and dancer music can bring new adherence. Because when it come to a point we no longer like a song, something is used as to say, because we grew up thinking the only thing that never dies is, And that's what we try to do.

We try to preserve the culture. We try to give the kids an experience. And what's been coming on here lately, not like you, because like I explained when you came, you're like a Michael Jordan, you're a fucking goat. Nobody fucks with Boudremaudan. That's just it, period. Creaming the crow.

And so, you know, for you to sit there and say, you know, it's about expression. It's about passion. about, you know, music is therapy for us. A lot of times we go through shit, we got to go in that studio and get it off. And that's what it's really truly about it. It wasn't just about chasing the check. What's the new gimmick?

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Listen to Dos Amigos as part of the Michael Tutta Podcast Network, available on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. One thing I never understood, and maybe you could explain to me because this is educational, is the Chinese Jamaicans, right? So from here, they have the... What are I do now? I want to hear about this. I'm sure.

Do you know about it? No. All right, so I want to learn. I want to learn. You got Chinese Jamaica's and big DJs out there in Jamaica, right? The Chin family, I believe they are. So tell me how they become Chinese Jamaicans. Over the years, Jamaica's always been a place to them, furious people migrated.

So no doubt this is just a family vibrate. However, that's not important to me in the grand scheme of things. What they did to me is more fundamental. They were visionaries who saw that the talent had the potential to be greater than just talents in the community. Hence, they invested around this record shop and the record in studios and they invest in the talent. They invest in the culture. And so we can take away anything from them because they saw an opportunity. and seize the moment.

That's why they're still here today, even on Jamaica Avenue. I mean, a lot of people want to knock them, but do good business and you have a problem. You overstart them? So we're concerned

I have to give them progress because they were visionaries. Now, truth be told, who was from a prime minister, Edward Seag was also a major musical producer who owned even a pressing plant,

Beverly Music, and you saw operate, or something like that. And then you have PJ Patterson who were from prime minister again, we used to be the manager of the Claredonians. And we have our current minister

who's very much involved in youth sports and other kind, I think it's Grange. So we have a long history of working with the leader and the top edge of lands of the country as it concerns development and music as well. But with the level in which it changed contributed their time, effort, money for the development of a music that could be here

now and expose a lot of our young people, but that was before at the same time we had Duke, around about the same time, at Duke Creed, was another producer, Clement Sir, Clement Cawson, Dad

was another producer, Winston Riley, King Tubby's and these were producers who were just making music when Lee Scratch Perry, the gang them,

Bob Marley's them, Pieditas, Peter Tats, these guys were just making music from the hear, from the hat. Yeah. Excuse me.

So, we went through an era where the gentleman them have to distinguish what was the music business and what is the business of music. Failure to do so we'll render your poor

forever and we can take a look and turn the pages of history to see who will able to separate the two. I stop there. So you go budget. Music business and what's the business? You go away. Yes, that's a Jeter kiss line by day.

That's a Jew right. You come back. They showed picture of you in the airport just walking. It was like, budgey, we followed every second when you came out. Like, I remember I was on a flight. And they said, no, budge. He's out. Remember Joe?

Yeah, it was like, your budge. We were in vandal everywhere. Even in bandage, I think I spoke to you a couple times while I was in bandage. Yes, of course. The feeling was real, yet feeling weeping men dole for a night, but joy do do comment in the morning, right? So that joy was undeniable. It was not forced.

It was a real natural joy on a joy express. Not only by the way of the people, but by the will of the most die God, because the vice of the people is the vice of which one needs to be in God. No, I was able to catch a remix when he got it. Yes. We and Jada kiss.

We did bless. Tell them, sir, we bless. Yeah. We and Jada kiss. So right now, we are here with it. But so right now in this dispensation, the new world that's coming to the forefront of the musical arena is this new album by Bojibandang for the year 2026.

Coming to you this summer, won't give you the title of the album as yet, but my first single is called Butterflies. Now, Butterflies, it's not psychopathic, crazy. It's more something for the ladies then. Because I find that our music primarily speak to a demographics way they feel like it's all about

being a gangster and a rude boy, but there's the ladies them over there with this love and affection and they need to be reminded that they're a part of our community and a very integral part of our life. So butterflies aim to ignite

and reignite that passion. You follow me? So I don't know to still like I can play. You and boss it for them. So to the release and butterfly bust the tune. Butterflies

The tune, Bo, Bo, Bo! Select a y'avit. Put your bottom Punder that tall, you know. Pretty later. Hi, baby. Coming on this country.

Right. Well, any, you know, you make a feel butterflies I'm going to love. So this one. What? This one is called butterflies. Round you. From the blonde one.

It's out of the park. Out of the world. This is it out of here. This is a lot of butterflies, I'm going to love. This is the first thing. Out of the world.

Love on the same. This is a crush. You have my trotted clearly. It's obvious. This is the first thing, produced by Super Dopes. You know, Super Dopes. You know, Super Dopes.

Again, is another bread drink. with Chinese heritage from the Jamaican community. We invested this time because they were so on a song named Black Chinese that was very popular in Jamaica. So they merge from playing the sound system to make it beats in the studio. So this is super. They have done many famous works.

No doubt. Superdubs is very acclaimed, you know? Yeah, but you know that sounds like Budja Bant. Well, this next album... That's Budja Bant, Chan. This next album is 100% dance all, you know, sometimes. Wow. You know what I mean?

I'm on start out, you know, the dance style. through the passage of time. We have to give the people a music that, you know, grow with them because you have life and you have experience. But you have to go back to the roads at time and not only go back to the roads, but to teach a generation

because no one has any respect nowadays. And you say, you want to go out and flag everyone that's a whole like a flagging. She just who's one belt and beat everybody. Whoa! One belt, man. So you have to set that foundation. So 20 years, some,

generation will emerge and say in 2000 or in 2010, 2,020, 2020, 2025. This was reggae music and this was dancing music. This is the history of it. No. Someone has to remind because it's hard work. A lot of people realize they are lazy what it takes for us to make a proper song to come forward.

It's an easy work. Some people want a quick fix and get the glory. But true work at standard test time starts with hard work. It's hard work. It's a lot of concentration, a lot of a hard work. A lot of dedication. A lot of dedication.

While the sweat. All the time. And she's just, you know, some people they just look lucky. And what? When you want to do that, right? Because Mujavansan, I've never been whacking this life.

I'd never heard a wax song in my life. Well, not if I'm making it. That song right there. It's out of the park. That song right there sound like we just open a CD of Budja Bantan's greatest hits

and that just came on like that record right there is out of here. Well, the whole entire album promises to be exciting, ranging from love togetherness when I mean, in our style.

You know, hardcore, rude boy dance style. So this album, look forward to it. Excuse me, because the promise is to be dynamic, exciting, fulfilling, rewarding. and above all else, musical. Wow. I love you. You're going to hit some marinas at the drag.

Well, right now we're planning on the road this summer, Butchiband and Stephen Marley hit the road. Wow. You know, two lions, you know, in an effort to bring back the love that the music industry have and should have. And we're going out there in the month of June, June 18, we should be on the road. And also to make sure that the masses them get a whiff of its new record,

By then it should be all the whole entire project should be released. It's going to fuck this summer up. They'll recognize this summer shall be late. Put it that way. Shall be outside. Outside. It's out. Shout out.

Steve and Marley, a hell of an actor. Ragamuffin. You know what I mean? Kimani. Camani. No, no, no, no. Who's, no, no, no. Shatis.

Kimani, man. Your fucking Kamani, man, he should have did a bunch of more movies after that, man. Like, he, that shit. shot is a classic. Without a doubt. So that's the next avenue of our exploration as a concern

curating the culture and film. You know? Maybe that's the next era we need to start to seriously before it is from on our feet. There's a lot of culture vulture.

Oh. So, you know, the ties are changing where you can speak up for your people from the Latino person and I can speak up from a small demographic for those who I am able for. You know, I mean, eventually the whole purpose

also come together and farm our total indolity and become investors in our own arts. It's just music, films, whatever, whatever, whatever. Because this is how other nations did it. We don't really figure out a blueprint job because we still want to be better than the next person. I think not figuring out together. We can all be better.

Yes. Talk slow, too, man. Talk slow, meaning to everybody, if you didn't catch that, is that everybody could be successful. You need to be happy for your brothers and your sisters that are successful. This ain't all a straight competition. I got to be better than you or better than that.

You know, be happy for everybody because the more of us that's winning, the stronger we actually are as a culture. And so a guy I'm a fan of from Jamaica's busy signal. Good guy. This man, would you, for a long time, they know let them in America. And they let him in. And he went on that Bobby Condus and rapped for like an hour straight.

I had to pull a car over. He fuck up the place so bad, budge. I had to listen like, yo, this guy's doing this shit. Yo, this guy's crazy. He's a big... I never met him. I'm a fan.

I heard that business signal comes from the old school, just like... Yeah, yeah, it's the old school. When last of you, being on the highway, I hear the radio lit from that angle. No.

Because first and foremost, I realize that the beats, they're not being utilized. So I'm asking myself, is it a situation where the beats are not being utilized because they cannot be utilized or because they cannot be written? I just think they're people are lazier now. So what we're doing, we're losing apart. All right, there are certain beats when it comes on. It does something to you. You automatically want to do.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This new beat is kidneys. from Jamaica. The doubler why you felt, why you feel like rhythm when I just played earlier when I just came in San.

That's me, man. You're all busted for me. Buster. Buster. Lope and talking. Great. Big up P.J. Mac. Buster one there.

What X-rated? So, we want music to make us feel and come alive no matter what we're going through. That's how we escape. And if it keeps us trapped, we're not escaping.

It's always about the music. It's always about the beat. You know, they said, Joe, why you raping so good? The beat is great. We speak still. Now, if you're doing a whack beat,

then you'll be in there like, come on, everybody, what to do that, you stuck like a motherfucking. Yeah, me speaks to you. So these are some of the songs we're coming forward with, you know,

to reignite a passion, musically and, you know, not to try to outshine, not to outdo, because whoever do be in the sun, nevertheless as hellas of always make sure that the road still paved. That's right.

And trouble free and the music flow consistent. That's right. I'm not in the fray, but I'm not totally away. But that way. Yeah, yeah. You have to leave the youth to do them thing, you know. That's elders and OG. Some entire I've chew them I'm born to, you know.

Yeah, they know when the OG step up. They know who got it. Yes. education purpose only. It's true because the youth, they say, all right, that's the bond town. You know, they're not crazy. They grew up their whole life listening to the bond town.

Trying to be the bond town. You can't be the bond town. So it's like, you know, just take the experience. Yo, Budja, let me tell you something. You know, we always want somebody come home from jail, say Max B did 18 years. We expect them the first day to sound just like the, Max B that we lost 18 years ago, right?

So Budja come out, you made great music and everything. But this project right here, you marinated enough since you've been out to where this is Budja Bontan. I want to hear music and I can't hear it, so I'm going to meet the music I want to hear. Wow. Talk float. Wow. Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. Wow. And that's like you.

Because every crime, I bump into this guy on the road. He's playing the good music. But they don't make that kind of music no more. So I hear him, he's pumping on. He's pumping this. I'm like, yo, man, what happened to that fucking good music, man? To the fucking legendary music. And they just don't make it like that no more.

So you know what? You got to make it yourself. You know, do me a favor, James left the computer, huh? We can start with Biggie. Rest of peace. Jamaican. We could do Buster Rhymes. I need somebody to Google what artists are Jamaican?

Heavy D. Heavy F-I-Bs. Oh, my God. Biggie Smalls. Yeah. Buster Rimes. Muzza. Muzon.

You know? Slick Rick the ruler Sean Paul's He's Jamaica Like he's Joey badass Who? Sautam Pepper

Bovino Super Pepper? So on Pepper Cool hurt The foundation I hear from here Bobby Smurda Bobby Smurda

Yeah Triple XX Triple extension Yeah Shut up to his moms Yeah We know them So many people

contributed to their hip-hop game. Uncle Luke is part Jamaican as well. That's CJ Alamo for brand newbies. Wow. Alamo is you with me? Bucan Kip. All of them?

That's why they was fucking with all that Jamaican music. KRS 1. Ha. KRS 1. Let me tell you something. What's his name? Cannabis.

What's his name? Cardin, Hall of Fish. Caldon, Lefishaw. Legend from Conno. My brother. For Canada. Yeah. Cardinala fish, y'all legend.

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Bomb. Going Jadishow.com. You can get these little cold for a T-shirt. Where to do it each out? It's my favorite. I need an extra large. Show of Jatisho.com. Go there.

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that will make you braver and smarter with your money. Listen to Dos Amigos as part of the Michael Tutta Podcast Network available on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. KRS 1. See, when you was talking all that shit earlier, all I could think of was KRS 1. You say, Kings lose crowns, teachers stay intelligent.

This, and everything you were saying, I heard it in my head in the KRS 1 verse back in the day. And KERS, he attacked the Jews crew. At this time, the Jews crew was like, Sizzler, Muzha, Moujabantan, everybody together. These guys are like the Avengers. Like, they just, and they had the monopoly because their DJ ran the radio, Marley Maugh.

So if it wasn't coming through them, you was not hearing it on the radio. So they had that shit like, bless and peace, Tulak, Fly Ty Williams. So Carus One gets into a beef with them. Me, who's in a Bronx fan, I'm the biggest Carus One fan. I said, there's no way he could win. Like, I'm like, there's just no way he can win. And I never forget, it's winter. And this is the first time I heard reggae music.

It's winter, and DJ Red Alert says, brand new KRS1, the response to the juice crew. And that shit came on and that shit said, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, when I tell you, he went like this, Like the whole The hip-hop game never even The way he came The bitch is over The bridge is over Pretty about bye

The bridge is over Hey Hey I start running around my projects It was like below zero Oh Yes we won I'm running around the whole projects And so

Keros 1 Introduced a lot of us Into the reggae game at that time. Like, it was like, first time we barely heard that like that. And, uh, but, you know, he was Jamaica, so he knew DJ.

That was, wow, 80-something. 85, it's irony. In 1985, 86, we in Jamaica was just starting getting to be bop. Great dance. Was a thing in Jamaica in those days where, yeah, we used to have on fits. Like, school,

used to keep events, they call them fake. And various high school used to keep them. Guys used to farm a circle. I'd go breakdance. Wow. We used to have this, there was this particular mixed tape, slick Rick, Dad, the first of the store. The Shia.

Teddy Rowley produced, six minutes, six minutes, six minutes, six minutes, six minutes, dog, you for sure. Michelle Meijer. So we broke just locking in in those days to 985, 9,000, so just start locking in.

So it's so funny you should say that. So it's proved to me that at the same time in two different locals, the same thing was happening. Same thing. Same thing. Same thing.

Same thing was happening. Because I can also recall in 1985 he was watching a music video when it was major macaroos, shabarangs. They were in Biltmore Barroom. Bill Gmolome. Those is me, Jamakritada, Don Man.

Major Macon. Mezsche. Yeah, so. It's important to know that, yeah. You know, shout out Jamalski. He was Jamaica to a MCI here. He was fucking shit up for the Jamaica's. Jamalski was a legend out here.

He was around that time of KRS 1, he was killing the fucking place. Rapping, with all the rappers, but in Jamaica, Jamalski. Light-skinned brother. But,

yeah, that time, let's talk about one person because it's very hard for us to have a legend like you. No, I don't know. We have Mad Lion fucking destroyed the game out here.

My son. Take it easy. I'm in this video. What? You gotta take it easy. What? He was now Chris, right?

Too many suckers. Not enough time. And we're fucking that shit. Mad Lion? Mad Lion? Do you know Mad Lion? I know Mad Lion. Okay.

Yeah. Mad Lion. That was a Brooklyn Postet. Yeah. What's his name? Also. But I want to say one thing. Because we never hear about this.

Right. And it's similar in Reg A tone. But I got one thing to say. Lady Saw. She ran the females forever. Tell me about ladies saw. Tell me about her contributions to the game.

I felt like there would never be another female to touch the mic in reggae music. Momasa is a legend in our own right. I've got her sister Marianne Hall number because of respect because the older would get for two people according to what they chose. So Sister Marion Hall, she played a pivotal role.

You know what I mean? Coming up in the industry, you're just a male damage in the industry. We only had like, like 10 females, Lady Jean, Lady Anne, Lady P, Sister Nancy, you know? Sister Niles.

And then you have Junior ranks, Lady Junie. Yeah? You have Shelly Tundra. Shelly Tundan. They have, Mama Liza. But Mama Liza was from a time

an era when she and Cojack used to do that Koja can mumma Liza. So from that time to the time when the ladies them become more assertive, there was a tassar between Lady G because Lady G was a top Dijish.

Lady G used to be with Papa's son. And she was one of the baddest at the time. So after Lady G, you come Mumma's Sa, seeing Marian. And she put, she bring it in a different level. Oof, she brings it in a total

different level. She opened the Pandora's back, and she never looked back. And, you know what I mean? her thing solid and the Niagara Blanche give our life for to the church

and to the true and living God so we can respect her and thank her for her contribution as well we got one

the EV Queen the EB Queen ran the whole reggae tone forever like Lady Saw and then finally now you got

you know the Carol G's and all those girls that's rocking now so now you got a whole new resurgence of the females there's a new resurgence

of females in Jamaica from the era of Spice them to Shensia's whole new era and this is what the music he always need new life to keep feeding it

but you have to always bring a piece of what makes it the music with you that's what you miss him yeah tell you you know shout out to Rihanna Rihanna not from Jamaica

but she had that sound I remember what this shit what was that shit she had I had to kill him. What was that record that Rihanna record? Rum, pump, bum, bum, rum, pump, pump, rum. I might have listened to that shit

10 million times when that shit came out. I'm blasting that shit in the car. But I had to kill a man down. So, pump, pump, pump, pump, rum, pump, pump, pump. So the music grows Joey. And as you and I both know, it's not been easy for music from the Caribbean, especially Jamaica dance and music.

Now, within the last four, five, six years, we must give thanks because doors has been opened that has been closed in our face perpetually. With that being said, now you hear music like from Dan Sal and 97, BLS and viewers at a section, but let's speak the truth, they were also forced to because music is everywhere now on your phone. Yeah, everyone playing on TikTok. Whatever you want. Yeah. You know, gone on the days, I've having a real gig.

My daughter's 19, she starts singing songs that came out of the next. the 80s in the 90s. I'm like, yo, what's up? She's like, yo, that's the number one on TikTok now, dad. I'm like, what? She'd be like, yeah, that's the number one. Like, that's how the kids are learning. So no one's shooting into our radio station anymore?

Here, Mr. Bob, I'll find out the Jamaican Paddy. Your phone is everything here. I need to be there one. The phone is already a station. The phone is the radio station. Y'all cares. I like that one. I like that, but you ain't lying.

Now they don't understand that. Before we used to, look, he said he had. had to wait to hear run DMC and tape it at three in the morning. Back in the day, we had no, it wasn't like now you could just pick whatever music you want on your phone. Back into the 9-7 and no cold. Everybody got to be like this standing close. Yeah, that's right.

You know, you're segment to go upstairs. Yeah. So everybody, you know, we had a shout out because he reached out to me. I got to talk to him, uh, Stretch Armstrong and Bobito. they had an underground station out here where you went there and Jay-Z was waiting online and Nas was waiting online and Biggie Smalls is waiting online.

In fact, Joe's waiting online. The big puns waiting online. The biggest guys you ever seen in your life waiting online to get up on there to bust a rhyme at 3, 4 in the morning. These kids now, the type of access they got now, they don't even realize. Like, the things you fought for has been thinking for granted.

I said, another Joe. Yes. All the things we fought for. Yes. Everything we fought for right now is like, yeah, it's a regular dagger, you know. It is what rich the barber said? Huh? Taste right beef patty in Miami.

It's the best beef patty. Where do you go? No. No. Taste right. I challenge anybody. Listen to me On the planet

Earth Anybody that showed me A better beef patty Jamaican patty Than taste right in Miami I wanna put some money on it I got money on it Don't do that budger

Brinkley and booing No you ain't got a better one You don't have a better one You don't have a better one You're making right I don't care I don't care what they say Taste right

Are you recording You know, listen. He live in my anything, any money. Listen, budget, $1. I need a number. Listen, a dollar. Listen. I need a number.

Budja, when you go back to Miami, I'm going to send you a box. But it's better while eating hot. This tastes right Jamaican beef patty. You can bring me any kind of beef patty you want. You're not eating this. I do not eat beef. but I know beef party that would be

ever out of beef party you're talking about You gotta bring a beef patty eater Ports Have you ever had to? Listen, listen Listen, listen Listen, listen

I'm not even going to tell you Listen Listen, listen Listen, listen Listen, Where's that? Where's that? Where's that?

Joey Joey, You ever heard of Tasty's beef party? Where's tasty? That's at? Jamaica. Oh, no, no.

You ever heard of? Tasty Patti. All the people who are watching now. I'm not knocking the party place you spoke about. No respect to them. No, they're not doing. But no one can test tasty party. Maybe Tasty is a original and a...

Listen, and I don't need Patti. Philly Chisic. Okay? No, no, no. So this is the number one party. And listen, I'm going to go through the Lent to make sure a box get to you in America. I believe you. you, can I have that experience?

I believe you because taste right sound like they caught the tasty reality. Right? The title, taste right sound like they might have caught the really tasty.

Reggae tone. He might be right. Listen, my brother. When you in Miami, you go to taste right, they don't even know I buy from there. I sit in the car. No respect goes out to taste right, Bochibanton and Fat Joe,

big in you up and beginning up your establishment, black progress every time. Right, that's right. They got lines, boy, the boys right there, but we go to the studio. You don't get my sugar up, you know what I mean? Get my sugar up. You know, I eat a couple of them bath patties.

My shit got up. So when last have you gone back to Jamaica? Man, I haven't been in Jamaica. How's the progress is to the hurricane? The hurricane has done a number on the island, But my people are strong, my people are resilient, and we have to face a lot of stuff through our time on that island. And we managed to bounce back.

And this shall be no different. We shall bounce back stronger, better and bigger. I see no kind of AI shit with sharks in the street. That was all AI, right? Absolutely. Sharks in the street, the motherfucker. I said, God damn, this shit going down in Jamaica. Look at this shark pun, Irene.

The motherfuckers fucking swimming in the pool. I'm like, yo, this stuff. say our shit. AI is crazy. Disneyland is an illusion. You told me 20 years ago Disneyland is an illusion. Joey,

it's not a coincidence because now the lines are blurred and you don't know if it's read or if it's fair. I don't know. So AI I've entered a conversation to create doubts. So even if it's real, there's going to be doubts.

circulating it might be AI. You understand? So what is real and what is fake? No, it's very question. Wow. Another joke. All the way up, though. That statement you just said is all the way to the top.

We don't know what the fuck going on. Like, I don't know what's real. What's fake? What's happening? What's, like, this shit is crazy. This is what I was talking about earlier. And you think I'm fucking play it. Yo, I'm looking at the phone.

I don't know what's real, what's fake. Everything is blurred lines. You're right. It's in here. It's not in here. So he's saying right now, if Jada kids top five dead or alive, you dick, you pussy, your cousins, we would be questioning that worldwide if you even said that shit at versus.

Because right now they got AI. Huh? Not like you that bought a ticket. It was there in a building. It can't be a high. You're sorry with you. But you want to hear a huge difference now. Back in the time when someone came to see Jada or see Joey,

they were there with us in the moment. And do you think our fans are in the moment with us these days? They all over the moment. They'll. Let me tell you something. This Saturday, this Sunday, this Sunday, this Sunday is new edition, boys to men and Tony Braxton. And I'm not going to lie to you.

Some people don't get, they don't respect. They, they say Fat Joe, the icon wants to pull up with his wife, give him a front row seat. They're saying they don't give seats. My people are like, you're going to buy a ticket or say a horsehound. I love these guys. I love their music. I have to be there. I have to be in the moment.

I have to support. It's no problem. Buy front row. But some people look at me, right? Because they're so into what's happening now. Like just last week, two weeks ago, I went to see Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis. I don't give a fuck. If I love you, I'm showing up.

Some people who's still trying to be in the mix is like, yo, Joe, you going to that old school shit? I'm like, yo, bro, this is the music I grew up on. This is the music I love. These are the people I look up to. I don't give a fuck. I'm front, bro. And I'm having the time of my life.

And so people need to get out there and don't take your icons and your legends from granted when they come through, buy your ticket, throw on your outfit, and go in that motherfucker. Don't let nobody convince you otherwise. I don't give a fuck. We know what's stopping. They don't make them kind of music no more, brother.

No. That train been left. Ooh. That train left already, which you're not. told Jane. The train is out of. Your James, that train lives. Yo, listen, but your bond time, man.

I love you. It another a whole. Butterflies. When is dropping? The 17th of April. Look fun with the butterflies. No. 417.

That's April 17th. You can get that butterflies. Yeah. Get it on April 16th at 12 midnight. Yes. Yeah. Well, no respect. No respect, brother.

And I'm so proud of you. I probably see about doing something great. I mean, I only hope that for the culture, the brothers in the culture, know how important this is. Not only to have a voice, but to have a voice that we control the narrative, our voice that we can really actually sit among our peers.

Instead of people trying to pry into our life that we don't know from anywhere and a hole in the wall, or the city of being so uncomfortable. Look at all the bullshit. Yeah, like in derogation. Man and man, there's a reason. We can talk about past experience and we just chill. So this is important for the culture to have legends like the eye.

Because remember, once upon a time we look at those who are ahead of us as elders. Oh, fucked up it is that no way are the elders. So we have to make sure that the accessibility stays in the community and access stays in the community for our community. Because once you used to line up to have things like this done, now I come sit amongst the undercoach with people who are in the same industry I am and we can talk, we can relate

because I'm not saying something that far-fetched and I'm saying that you can relate on your same thing I can identify because we're in the sale industry and you're not sitting there trying to hurt me and I hate being an asshole to make you look stupid but to further what we're both doing

so this a win-win situation and the fans to the Yit and the comrades and the dingo you want you to have wrong Fuck, I want to throw the whole shit, the pillow. That was real. I hope I was fucking listening to that. I hope you heard everything.

Rappers call us up. Thank you very much. I invite us up. Thank you. My brother, I appreciate you, bud. You rappers call us up with this concert. The rappers call us up. Guys that we know, we're friends.

They got beef with other rappers. You all want to sit on the couch. I want to shit on. We don't do that here. This ain't the house. This is the house of love, of culture. I've spread it. They want to come in here,

talk shit about the other rapper. This is not what we do here. There's an opportunity to create what we grew up. And he went from a BT perspective where a culture is always, young people express, sell the product, time to the fans, direct communication with the fans. We don't need to muddy the water.

Let's keep it clean. That's it. Butterflies, 417. You want to know what's crazy? Or 416 and 12 minutes. Member. Hold up. But let me tell you something.

rappers who call us for the controversy you know we know them brothers they call jadekis they call me y'all I want to sit on the couch and want to shit on this guy I want to say my story like this and we say yo we're not with that

I see them go and do their interview with the same people who gate keep the industry and been spreading all that bullshit forever and they sit down with them and I look and I said look at this shit

They found their way to these motherfuckers who were getting us to kill each other forever and they sit down right back at that couch when the guys like us say, nah, we're not doing that. We stay in positive. They go right back to the guys who started all the shit, but it's okay.

Who? It's ain't that. No, this ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking kiss. Make some noise for your bullshit. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No respect.

No respect. No respect. It dies. God. All right. Hold your bond time. What do you feel like I'm not the king? On paper, the three hosts of the Nick Dick and Poll show are geniuses.

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