Joe and Jada - Common on Fat Joe SAVING HIS LIFE in Ice Cube beef, Chicago hip hop & Jennifer Hudson

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss sit down with Chicago rap legend Common. The three hip hop OGs talk about Common coming up alongside Joe, Bone Thugs-N-Harmony, and The Beatnuts on Relativity Records, the time Joe saved Common's life during his beef with Ice Cube, how his iconic song "I Used To Love H.E.R." inspired the 2002 Taye Diggs film ‘Brown Sugar,’ composing the new theme to the NBA on Prime Video, the influence of KRS-One on conscious rap, where Will Smith and Tupac Shakur rank in his list of top rappers-turned-actors, and his successful acting career leading to roles in 'John Wick: Chapter 2,' Apple TV's 'Silo,' and 'Smokin' Aces.' Joe also tells priceless stories about turning down a role in 'Shaft,' Queen Latifah chasing him around the studio, and surprising Styles P (a vegan) with coconuts at one of his parties. 5:30 - Joe saving Common's life during Ice Cube beef 12:30 - Why nice guys like Common are successful with women 15:30 - Relationship with Jennifer Hudson 22:00 - Winning awards while ALWAYS repping hip hop 25:30 - KRS-One & conscious hip hop 35:00 - Joe's story of why he left Relativity Records 38:00 - Acting roles in 'John Wick: Chapter 2" & more 41:30 - Story behind "I Used To Love H.E.R." 45:45 - Fat Joe says he turned down a role in 'Shaft' 48:15 - Being a ball boy for Bulls during Michael Jordan era 51:30 - Queen Latifah CHASED Joe in the studio 53:00 - Top 5 rappers-turned-actors 55:00 - Composing the theme to NBA on Prime Video 1:00:00 - Joe tries his hardest to sign Common for Rewind It 10See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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TrapNurts podcast and listen now. Man, you practically saved my life. Oh, get the other flag back. Take the other flag up. Yo, yeah, yeah. Yo, you, Jay, Jay. You got this. Yo, that man

really saved my life. Yeah, yeah, what up, y'all? This is Fat Joe, the gangster. It's your boy, Jada Kiss. You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary. Pow. Every show iconic.

And you get just what we tell you you're going to get. Today's guest. You think of hip hop, and you think of bars. Speak on a dog. You think of a strong black man. When you think of morals, principles, when you think of craftsmanship, when you think of transitioning to becoming a very great actor. One of the best.

On screen and a voice actor. You think of the south side of Chicago. That's right. God damn, what's good. Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for our brother, comment. Ah, ha, ha. My intros is getting better and better, my brother, better and better. Please, brother.

That intro, man, that was a, man. That spoke to my heart, bro. To be honest, man, I never heard nobody intro me like that, saying a man of integrity like that. So I want to say, give thanks, brother. My brother. Joe, I'm glad to see yourself. What you are, no.

Glad to see yourself. Do the real deal, bro. Thank you, brother. First of all, in this show, I don't know if you've been watching, but I count people's pockets. Wow. Flag off the, off the brick. Flag off the ring.

I read, you all, yeah. I see, quick. Nah. History. Nah. Ninety-three. I'm in Cabrini Green projects. Well, people don't know.

Okay. You want to throw your, for taking flag back and don't throw one because I'm gonna tell you some real shit okay? Let me tell you

all right I don't even die after the story I start at Relativity Records Me, Common and the Beat Nights and Chi Ali Yeah

The first artist sign He signed He signed 1991 That's cool He's before me But we're on the same label So you know How you were seeing

Biggie in one studio And this Me and him We started together Yeah Like literally Infancy Point Blake

You're the second person that I've known in this whole industry where the beat Ness was the first. Shout out Juja's now. Juju, Red, V-I-C. Let's make you guys for that. Like, yo, you just, yo. No, but, so you don't know how proud it makes me that there's kids that don't even know you rap,

and I just see you in movies and see you doing things, and I'll just be sitting back, like, wow. And then I tell guys like him that I started with you. He throws a flag and tells me I'm capping. And I'm like, no, I really know him. We really grew up together. The flag came from saying, I don't know if you know whether or not on this show. I pocket watch.

I watch pocket watch pockets. No, no, what I'm trying to say. That's just another flag. Yo. Hey, Joe, but this is the thing. It's two moments in my life and my career that I can cite you for. I just want to say, thank you, brus. Like, you don't know what it meant to me.

One was you put. me in the video, in your video. Hudson is the key of success. Lee, you, Naz, man, like. You know, I'm pictures come out like once a year. It's just, like, it's going to be here forever. I love that, man. We was kids in their own, but you pulled up to the Bronx.

That meant something, no, that meant something because, you know, coming from Chicago, man, one of the things we wanted was just to be heard by New York. And for you to be like, yo, come on. You know he's on the same label. If you thought I was on some weak shit, you'd been like, ah. No. You could have the flag back on that.

Thank you. Thank you, beloved. Thank you. We get the flag back. It's the beloved. I'm going to tell you some shit. What's the second one? What's the second one?

Well, the second one, we didn't talk about a lot where, man, you practically saved my life. Oh, get the other flag back. Take the other flag back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Oh, you, Jay, Jay. Yo, that man really saved my life. Like, I was out on the West Coast with my guy. One of my guys I knew through one of my close homies, but he was my guy, and he just wasn't happy with the whole situation, the whole Ice Cube, Mac 10 beef that we had, told him we had squashed it. We're doing it.

We sitting there doing a commercial. This was the most money I was getting paid ever for something at that point in time. Right. So we at peace, we like. Like, yo, things is good. My God, he's from Chicago. We just couldn't hold it. He couldn't hold it.

So he started ruffling shit. And, man, it just got a little heated. And I want to say that it's not because Fad Joe's tougher than anybody. I literally beg for your life. I literally got in the middle. It was like, please, he's my friend. He's my brother. You know, he, you know, some people take things personal.

And they finally saw him. And he was on there, saw you, and they was talking crazy. And I was like, no way, this guy. I said, this is literally my brother. And I was begging them because it was the serious ones. I was like, please, this is my brother. Joe, you know, we've been waiting to catch this guy. I said, listen, I can't.

I just couldn't do. I just, and basically I stood in the middle, like, please, guys. Like, I cannot do it, but they, they settled. It was over after that day, right? It was over after that day. But you settled that. Like, like, I'm like, man, we are on, we in California. Don't start nothing.

My homie already, because they already, like you said, they already wanted a piece on me no matter what. What? So my guy out there, he's just going off. And anyway, I knew Joe. I ain't even hit it, but I didn't know everything he did. Oh, no. He did, I knew it was him that said, yo, this can't happen.

And because he had a, you know, a relationship. Super relationship. Still my brother. Shout out to that. And yeah, shout out to the other brothers. Shout to the Inglewood. Yeah, Eaglewood. That's my family.

Eaglewood family was good. That's when Fat Joe the gangster, I was like, this thing is here is this. Because he straight up was like, he can't do that to my man. It was like one of the movies. We used to talking about Goodfellers. Like a good fellow is something about. You can't get him. And once again, I begged him.

I was in their mercy and I was just like, please, this is my brother. This is my family. I did that one time for Rich Playa, my best friend. One time they was about to do it and not saying Rich and him ain't real deal. Right. Well, he was getting into it with a seven-headed monster, a guy who just kills. He's in jail for too many bodies. Right.

And I had to jump in the middle and be like, yo, yo, yo, yo, I can't. It's like, yo, fat boy, get out the way. I was like, oh, no, I can. This is my family. I can't, I knew what it meant. They real deal, and this other guys, you know, a Jeffrey Dahmer, and I'm a monster. And I'm sitting there like, yo, listen, please, let me get it.

I said, no. Knock him dead, Ed. Knock him dead, y'all Eddie, yeah, up there. But they go, but they go, the man go, because it's the first argument I ever had with him, right? He goes the next day to Rich and they had blocked on Cyprus, and says, if Joe got in the middle, that means you're good guys.

Let's become friends. And they wind up being best friends. My man's still in jail, 37 years. But he went the next day. He took it on himself and said, if Fadjo threw himself in the middle, trying to squash it, these guys got to be good guys.

And it was all over, you know, staring at each other in the club and a couple of girls. And, you know, these guys, they kill each other over girls. These gangsters, man. A lot of gangsters in jail killing over girls. I'm telling you, I had a guy, this guy was a maniac.

He's still in jail, too, 40 years, right? He was really... Look, is he scared straight? No, no, because... No, he's talking. A lot of wars have come over women. Most of them. Yo, but listen, this guy, all I'm going to say to you is this was a mass murder.

He's still in jail, 40 years. He would come to the club, and he'd go, he's Puerto Rigg, and he'd be like, I... And I'd be like, yo, sike, I ain't. The nana, he's talking about his wife was bad as shit, too, and she was fucking dudes. Yeah. Like, she was loose. See, come on, nana.

You know, Jimbo from the barber shop? A house. Yeah, he was with the net. With everybody, if his 10 guys, no, no, no, no, no, Jimbo. He didn't, yes, with the net. Jimbo won't be around it too much. More, like, he would come all. One time I argued with the niggas, like,

I said, no, I don't want to hear that shit. You're a fucking liar. She's the most decent girl in the world. She didn't do it. Yes, the nana. And everybody knew what that was. Somebody was disappearing over the nina. No, I'm no maniacs like that, man.

But, you know, common, man. You're the beloved of all, beloved. Let's keep it peace. You know? man, I got my Palisanto. Hey, I said, you know, I said, you see what I'm saying? What's that, like Spoken Sage or something?

It was supposed to protect us for that story. It's similar to say it's Palisanto. It's Palisanto. You know, it comes from the trees down in Chile. Bring in a good energy. Bring it a good energy. Move negative energy. You know, you guys, I know, I know you in a serious relationship.

Correct. Right now? Yes, sir. But you guys, you nice guys. You always got the baddest chicks because they think you nice guys. You know, scumbags are a scumbag. You come with a smile. They thought, oh, Carmen.

He's the beloved of all belovedies. What a nice guy. The beloved of all beloveders. And you palisanto, you know, you know what this shit? He got that new shit out there on the streets, boy. Amen. You know, I got to say, you know, like at the end of the day, you know, I've definitely dated some beautiful women and amazing women. But I think, you know, it was like they respected me as a man.

They knew I was coming as a man. I had the love, but I'm a man, too. It's like I'm going to lead the way I lead and I was giving them that, you know, that realness. I'm authentic, man. I'm true, bro. I don't be trying to, like, I ain't go to act like. They act like nothing for nobody at this point, obviously. But then, even at that moment.

But you're just saying you always, you've never been like a bullshitter. You always been a straight shooter. Like, and nobody I've been with, like, none of the women that I, like, had relationships with going to be like, damn, that niggas just did me bogus. Fow.

Like, I had the integrity. I mean, I'm a man. I did, you know, some things wrong. You know, but I'm saying it ain't been bogus where it's just like, I ain't been out there. like bogus and, you know, I'm the type that, man, if it ain't working, I'm going to say it ain't working. I ain't going to keep you going like forever because you got a life.

I got a life. We want to live happy. So, yeah, man, I just, I mean, that's, I guess nice guys. How you know what it ain't working? How you know when it ain't working? Yeah, you took it to the doctor fit. What do you want me to do? Yo, Jeter, we have talking real life shit.

We're trying to help. Somebody's in the struggle right now. Somebody watching this shit. they don't know whether they want to be together or not. Maybe he can give us some knowledge and maybe it's time to move on or stay strong. Yeah, I mean. Seek the kingdom.

Seek the kingdom. Seek the kingdom and also be added. You got to seek the king. No, man, listen. Man, Jada just said it. I'll be like, man, I try to listen to God most and foremost all. Like that's in everything I do. And especially the most important things in life.

whether it's like career, my purpose, a relationship to dealing with my family, dealing with how I'm going to go speak on something. Like if I get an opportunity to speak to people, man, I'm always going seeking the kingdom first. So I think in a relationship, it's important that, man, the reason why I feel happy and great in the relationship with Jennifer is, man, God is first.

And we just build from there. We're not perfect human beings, but we communicate and we grow up. And we, like, just trying to be the best children are the most high and still have fun, too. Like, you could be godly. I know you're ready with your intellectual questions, but let's go back to Jennifer. The reason why I love her so much, besides her being so talented, but the hard thing she's been through in life and to see her just keep her chin up and walk through the fire and still be strong and still be, you know, that's what I respect about humans the most. Yeah. is the adversity you have to overcome and the tough times and all that.

And then her, you know, she had it the toughest. Man, I mean, I don't know if it gets no tougher than what she gets there. No, I don't get no tougher than what she's serious. I don't get no tougher than what. I've never been able to tell her that because, you know, I sit next to her and all the games and all that. And, you know, we always have it fun when I see her, but, you know, she's like, you know, she's a jeek. She would appreciate that, man. And I got to say that's one of the things that I was like, man, how this person got.

still got light. Light after all, like losing dealing with what she dealt with. I'm like, for her to have light and be good to people and like just still be bright about life, man, that's a different type of worry. That's a different type of strong. Yeah, but yeah, that's what it is. I mean, I ain't the relationship expert. I want to know what was the south side of Chicago, like early 90s, 80s and 90s?

Man, Chicago, a lot of our people, or from the south. So we got something that's rooted in the south, but it's really Chicago as a city. So we got that movement of a city and the slickness and the culture. But growing up, it was like, I experienced everything from black church

to liquor stores, gangbanging cultures. Like, no matter, I don't care how smart you or whatever, you're going to be around gangbanging culture. We hoops, like. It's just nowhere around it. It's nowhere around. It's the one city. well, L.A. too

because I've seen grandmothers in all red cars with red seats with red tires principals and schools coming in red suits and blue suits. You know, they, I think of McTenning them, I'm out there

shooting a movie with them on thick of water and grandmothers is all red and principals and schools is coming and the cops is throwing this shit out. I'm like, it's like that in Chicago where every, it's pretty much. much. How did you escape? I grew up with around stone, black stones,

four corner hustlers, and vice lords. And that's who I was with. And, man, that's what it is. I mean, I don't mean I have, like, friends that was folks or whatever. But overall, I guess I escaped it because I started feeling like I had something to live for. So I wasn't going too deep into that.

But, you know, me and my guys, that's how we had to make it to a certain degree. But just like we know the stories from, I don't care if, you know, it's the BX. I don't care if it's young because if it's Atlanta, if it's, you know, L.A. When people start seeing you doing something, they support you.

Like you coming from the hood, they're like, man, especially doing something good, they kind of wrap their arms around you and be like, we ain't going to let nobody get to this cat. So, I mean, I was part of it. And then, man, blessings, man. Like, what you just talked about, I could have not been here.

Sometimes I've been around stuff, and I could have not been here, but, you know, that's about it most time. Now, back to the first flag he threw at me, the reason why I said Count in Pockets. Right. I meet you in 1990, 92, 93, and I go to Chicago with you, right? Yeah. And we're sitting down, this is when Chicago, it wasn't even the downtown. It was just the real Chicago, the good times, Chicago. And I remember sitting out there with you and you was like, yo, I'm buying all the property.

and you was telling me your grandfather had properties and he taught you how to buy properties. And why I counted your money? Because I said, this man, I'm just buying a chain, a car, hootty. And you was buying properties at that time. Yeah. But, man, really it was my mother who was really the, like, my father used to say to me, get the land, get the land.

I ain't grow up with my father, but when he was, he would say certain things. They'll be like, get the land, man. They can't take the land from. When my mother was like, as soon as I started, like, first album, I ain't really make no money. I'm trying to, you know, survive, right? None of us, right?

Oh, yeah. Maybe I'll make it. None of us. Nobody, make it. Only a fair handful out of them. They went and bought a kilo with their advance. The fucking loss. You're talking a good story.

All right. Let me just try and let you know. They had a side of us while rapping. I mean, hey, that's what it was. Oh. We weren't make it, but. But my second album, my mother saw that I was, like, getting somewhere, like just more than what, you know, like I had before.

And just, you know, she was like, man, you don't know how long this is going to last. Man, you should invest in some property. And I was like, man, that's good. I started doing it. And then she was the one that schooled me. And then I got a friend named Mo who got into real estate who started breaking it down even more. So that's when I really started getting into properties. seeing the value.

I mean, I really honestly wish early on I was up on investing in, because I got all on the health shit early, like the healthy, like, all that I was supposed to get down with us. We would have been franchises. We'd have been franchises.

I came through the opening of y'all in Brooklyn. You know what I'm a dude, I'm going to start smoking this briskado thing. What's the shit saying here? Just that you don't smoke. But you always had a time. I don't smoke, but this shit, look, I'm going to have to buy some of that stock

I'm excited, man. What's it called? Palisanto. Palisanto. Because you always are headed a curb on everything. That Falasanto going to make some money. Yeah, for sure. We got to invest.

I'm going to come out with my own... Palisanto. You know, I'd be on some wellness, man. That's what we're looking young, huh? When are you going to source? Yeah, maybe Chile. It's got to come from South America. Yeah, it's going to be the good one.

It's going to be the good. Yeah, because I got too many... Now, fast forward, how does it feel to win every goddamn award? And I feel good whenever I see you win. Thank you. Because I know what you stand for, which you represent where you come from, when they let one of us in and you just dominate the way you've been doing. It makes me feel.

Man, I love that because... It's win for us. Right, so when, like, let me tell you, When I'm up there, I feel like I'm representing us because we all, we are the tribe, man. Like, we know where we've come from. We know what we do. We've been through it together.

We ain't got to see each other all the time to know. We're from, we just, we're from the tribe, bro. We love each other. So when I'm out there, man, I ain't going to front. When I was on the Oscar stage, I felt like I was representing. I was representing God, black men, brown men, black people, like hip hop. I saw Chicago.

It was a lot that, that, that, I felt like, yo, this is what I'm, this is why I'm up here. And my ancestors, I felt all of that. And I'm like, I'm so grateful that you feel that way. Because I'm like, man, when I see y'all doing, I came in and said, man, I'm proud of y'all, man. This is like, what y'all doing, man, this is like, it offers so much to people, people who, like, need it. We need it. We need the fun. We need the joy.

We need the wisdom. We need to come in, like, in an authentic way. So to see us, us, like just, man, it was 93, 92, bro. Ninety three, 92. So to see us like finding ways and real ways to actually impact life and culture and be doing great things and taking care of our loved ones and families. And, you know, y'all remember, you know, the same way. I feel like we all want.

No, I'm going to tell you crazy thing. I wrote my first ever positive song, right? Now, you don't remember this. You know, I'm gangster fat, Joe. I smack your baby at the Christian, and I'm doing, you know, I'm, but I'm talking all this crazy shit. And I made one positive song, and I went to you. I seek the kingdom, never forget. And I played it for you.

I felt like, yo, Kam is going to love this shit. There's a positive song. And I played it for you. He was like, that's dope. Joe, what the rest of the album sound like. Like, you wanted that raw shit from fast show. I came with the least black. man, this dirt, farrakhan, formed a million man.

And he was like, yo, Joe, what's up with the rest of the album? I was like, yeah, yeah, the album is hard. I came to you with the positive joint. Like, I thought the comment was going to be like, yes. No. Yeah, he didn't want that. No, he want that Joe crack, fat, gangster shit. No, no.

And it, but, no, but, you know, it was at the end of the day, you was showing the evolution. But sometimes it's like, you know, we all climb and grow our way. We grow in our own ways when it's time. I mean, for me, it's like, positivity ain't got to be like, oh, preaching, man, I don't like that. I don't like that in movies. I don't like it in music. I don't like it in church.

I don't like, I don't like the judgment. I don't like it's self-righteous. I don't like, man, we, I'm conscious now, you know, like, you was doing the goodness out there, to be honest. Even, you know, like, you know what I'm saying? Like bringing people on, that, that in itself. But I feel like, you know, I kind of remember when you played that joy, but I want to hear that joke. But you know what happens is, you know, somebody like KRS-1 who had the machine gun in the cover. Yeah.

And we think he's coming again. He's airplanes fleeing. Overseas people dying, politics and he's lying. I'm trying not to escape. That shit was like a fucking rose blooming. I remember I hopped the train. I had the Walkman and I played that shit

and then he was like Airplane is flying overseas people dying politicians is lying I'm trying and I was like it was like a rose I was like

yo what the fuck is this Yo man KLRS 1 and hip hop in itself at that time too man taught me so much about who I am as a person this stuff I ain't know

like even what he was just talking about or just certain things about Africa that I was Benzeman Bannica. Man, he wasn't that slurring, y'all. Why is that? Why is that?

He was going. He was going. Even to be able to break down the books of the Bible, when he was, Abraham was the father of Isaac. Isaac was the father of Jacob. Jacob had 12 sons. For real, the knees were the children of Israel. I'm like, man, to get us to be singing that and rapping that,

like, man, that dude just elevated us all, man. Hip-hop being at that time. He's the teacher, man, the teacher. And he made it sound, but that's what I'm talking about. Like, he made that joint sound good. Like, I had to get to that, I had, it was a point where in my, in my music and career, where I felt like I was getting stuff and I wanted to spread the word, but it was too, it was too, like self-righteous. It was too, like, you know, you got to find a balance.

Life is a balance, so it's like. You know, me growing up, he was my hero, my idol, he still is. but Carous One was God in the Bronx, right? And then Fat Joe Yes Became the new, like, you know, the dawn We're going double platinum, we're on fire I used to walk the streets with Carewrest One

And everybody teaches, teacher Look at me like, you know You know, we had attitudes And I asked them one day, I say, yo, I said, Yo, Chris, how come everybody Comes up to you smiling with the teacher? teacher and then look at you. He said, that's easy.

I rap about positivity and unity. You rap around gangstership. They're going to make you prove you a gangster every time out here. Me, they just smile. I pose no threat. I was like, wow, that shit was so deep for me at the time where it was like, yo, he's like, yo, they look at me like, this is the unified.

They look at you like, yo, you still found Joe the gangster out here. Dude, that's what we went right back to the studio feeling kilt to more people. That's a fact. More babies at than Christian than you. But that's when, for me, I knew like, okay, man, I wasn't selling a lot of records. Joe, you know, I remember walking into relativity records. And it was, I tell people this story.

It was, it was bone thugs at Harmony. Fat Joe. I don't know if the Rough House riders were performed. Like, Fat Joe has sold maybe $20,000 this week. Bone Thugs are sold $40,000 this week. I sold $5,000. So it was like,

that board let me know like the priority of the label and what was going to be put into my career. So I knew that, man, I got to go on my truth no matter what and state who I am because record sales wasn't it for me.

Like, to be honest, like, I mean, I did have some great ones at times, but some good ones. But overall, it was, It's like, man, my integrity of what you're saying, like, just putting positivity out there, putting creativity out there, putting that light out there is what, to the end of the day, some people ask me, man, why are you still doing it? That's why I'm doing it.

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I say it when I do motivation speaking. We have relativity, me, you to beat nuts, Chi Ali, and they shoot with $5,000 videos for us, right? But we think in relativity ain't look fancy or nothing. We think we're on to come up. And they run in. Alan Grumblatt runs in with a video. He says, y'all, I want to show you. I want to show you, there's a group I just signed, a group I just signed.

And he puts it in. And it's bone thugs in harmony floating in the air. There's this, this is, and I see, yo, Alan, this looks like a million dollar video. He turned around and said, it is a million dollar video. We spent a million dollars on this. At that moment, I knew they didn't believe in me like they believed in bone thugs because it takes money to make money. So I turned around the toll everybody. You know, we got to go.

And I remember some rapists, just like, yo, Joe, we got chains, we got cars, apartment. I was like, yo, they don't believe in us. They just spent a million dollars. And at that moment, that's when I left relativity. It was scary because I did have a chain of car apartment in Thrasnick. And I just went. And no longer than six months later,

I signed Terror Squad Records with Atlantic. They gave me a million-something dollars, right? I've only had $2,000 in my bank account with a gold chain and a car at relativity, but I say in everybody's life, whether you're a beautician, you're a farmer, whatever it is, I feel like there's this invisible train that comes in front of you.

It's a train of opportunity, but it seems so risky, but you've got to have faith and believe in yourself and jump on that train. And I jumped on that train, maybe six months after that, I signed big pun. So we was really... on a raw, but I remember

that happened when they showed me that Bone Thugs video. And by the way, Bone Thugs, I love y'all. The theft, those are my... Listen, I miss my Uncle Charles. Yeah. Y'all, let me... You know I have my Uncle Charles, too.

God bless him. You know I'm fried. I fuck up my own lyrics. Last week. I called him my list. My uncle, Georgia. Let me tell you. I got to tell you something.

Joe Buttons. I see him at the Nick game last night. And he asked me, one-on-one on the side, he said, your joke. Say the truth. You really thought it was Uncle George? You really thought it was Uncle George and you was trolling? I was like, yo, I'm fuck. I'm fine, man.

I really said Uncle, I really thought it said Uncle George. Joe, he really said George. He was dead-ass serious, man. I get my own lyrics fucked up. I know. They put me on the spot. Like, when you do TV shows, they're like, all right, you got to go. And it's just a TV show.

I'd be like, oh, my God. of my own songs. Rehears. Rehears. But that train, I hear you on that train like that. Visible train. That visceral train.

For me, that's where acting became for me. Like, acting was like... The action. Transition. Yeah, Jay. It was like,

I hit a ceiling with music for a minute, like, where I was like, man, what am I going to do? Like, because I was like driving to do some super artsy shit. And I'm like, man,

these niggas. I released this album called Electric Circus. It was out there. In fact, Primo, I went on tour with Gangstar. He was like, man, I ain't liked this album, too. We started to I saw you perform and I understand it more. But it was like one of those things where I was just like,

man, I'm trying to blossom and do something else. And then I was trying different things. Man, I went to acting class. And then, man, that was that train for me, that invisible trainer. Like, man, I love this. It's something I can work at the craft. I can do this. Because I wanted to do it when I was younger.

I was in the play when I was younger And my mother, I was in the play And after I finished the play My mother kept talking about how good Derek My homie was in the play Oh, he was good He was amazing Derek is my brother

My God And that's day one So Jay, I was like I was like I wasn't no good Yeah I wasn't no good Like what's up So then anyway

I fast forward When I got the opportunity To go to acting class I was like man This is it for me I love acting as much as much as I love music. I mean, music hit me in a different place,

but I love acting just as much. You know what I mean? It comes across the screen, bro. This shit's great. You know, I like gangster flicks. I'm going to skip a bunch of shit. They're going to get mad at me, but John fucking Wick.

They told you the day you was in John Wick. You knew that shit was going to be ill, right? You was like, y'all, I'm going to be on John Wick. Yo. But what's crazy, though, is, you know, I was in John Wick. too. So we filmed in New York and then in Italy.

I thought it was in like... It was in like, yeah, we was in Italy for some... You passed them. Y'all bumped into each other. I said, oh, shit! Let's go! Let's fucking go! Yo, I love, man.

The people that checked out John Wick, man, that blow my mind, man. I'd be getting in cars, like you said, some people don't know I rap. I get in the Uber to do, like, yo, I know you from somewhere. I know you One thing they don't know is they're common sense

Oh no they definitely don't know that Yo my daughter looks at me like I'm a dinosaur I'd be like yo common sense She'd be like His name is common dad Like common I said no That's common sense

No no No dad You sound like a dinosaur dad You sound like a dinosaur dad You sound like a dog I'm like yo that's common sense Yeah man I don't know what I don't

I was surprised I just did this whole campaign With BMW and they was like Man we want the campaign campaign to say it's common sense. I was like, how y'all know? How y'all know about that? There's somebody in there the new.

The new, like, that's what the campaign is, it's common sense. I said, damn, I'm a dude this week. We made it fly, too, but it was like, bro, like, a lot of people don't know. I'd be in car, like, I like to ride in the car sometimes, like, just riding around. So I was in there, the car was in Boston, this driver, this dude, a young dude. He was like, I was, you know, I put in my music and start playing. And I'm rapping and stuff. He was like, comment, I ain't know you rap.

I was like, yeah. I had that argument. I've had that argument about you. That means you're a great actor, though. Man, I'm grateful for that. They see you in that space and it overpowered this space that they didn't know about it. We got to go to, I used to love her.

Okay, okay. You knew that was like a lean back. When you finished that bitch, you was like, oh, I knocked this shit out the part. Like, what was making, I used to love it. Where did that come from? What was the exception of that idea? Because to this day, I mean, we did it in so many

Bigel did the Ebonics and this. Everybody did some version of it. Yeah. But that was like the epitome. Man, whenever God dropped that idea into my spirit, bro, I was geek. I just know no idea. Made this dope beat.

He was dope. He was dope. He accepted of George Smith's shoutouts to no idea, bro. He fucking killed that. Yo, I was sitting at home. My homies had just left the crib. And I was staying with my guy Rosson. We had a crib together, like, an apartment.

And, man, I was sitting up. It was two in the morning. I just had that beat playing. I was like, man, what if I made hip hop a woman? And then I just started writing. And it used to take me, I don't know how for y'all are, but sometimes I'd be taking a while to write it. Back in the days, it took a while.

Back in the days, you used to be like, back in the days, you'd be busing your bumble brain. Your brain to come up with some shit. That one started coming to me, and then I started, you know, just understanding the metaphor, not understanding, but just getting into the metaphor of it and taking it through the whole ride. And I was like, I ain't going to fun.

I did feel like, this is something. Halfway through you was like, yo, this is some shit, right? Like that shit started going. You're like, yo. No, man, I was like, yo. And then by the time I got to the third version, was like, summing it up and got to who I'm talking about

Charlotte's hip hop. I was like, man, I knew that it could have something. It could hit somebody because when I was in that studio landing, my guy Rosson was it. He was like, I could see him through the booth. I was in there rapping. And, you know, we're young, so he's like, you're going to hit.

What girl are you talking about? Yeah, he's like, why are you doing this love song? He didn't want to, you know, he's like doing a love song like this. As soon as I said, we don't talk about Charles' hip hop. And he grabbed his head, like, oh, shit. You want to know what's crazy is. When you came in here, I know how much you love Elmatic. And so we're doing some Elmatic.

And similar, I used to love her to Elmatic, is over the years, every time I heard, I used to love her, I picked up something new. And I learned something new. And I was just like, yo, this shit gets better. You know, like, Elmatic, you can still, like right now we all could have rap. and didn't know the word.

Yeah. The right word, right. Quarterbody Halfway Houston. What the fuck he meant with quarter body halfway Houston? Head for Houston. Head for Houston. Yeah. Cut a body.

Catch your body. Oh, quarter body, head for Houston. Yeah. Catch a body. You know, it's like, so you could keep, like, that's how the lover was for me. Like, every time I heard it, I would hear something new and something new and be like, oh, shit, that shit crazy.

Yo, what, what hit me too was like. Man, that was the first time I really started. Like, I remember, you know, back in those days, you would have, like, people give you a quote for your album. Biggie gave me a quote. And I was like, damn, I'm actually getting respect from, you know, more and more people. But then that movie, Brown Sugar, came out.

And Brown Sugar was based on I used to love her. Wow, I just do that. Yeah, it was based on I used to lover. That writer, shout out to him, Michael Elliott. He had come to me to write something, like write some movies, stuff with him. But I was like a little bit, you know, I ain't know how to do that. We're just moving.

You know, I'm just, so he ended up writing brown sugar, boom. Then me and Erica, me and Erica Badoot did the song for Brown Sugar, which was loving my life based on I used to love her. My love, yeah, my friend. So I was like, it was one of those things that kept evolving in a way like that song. It was a seed that. Yeah, the seed, the seed that. It keeps growing.

And you know what's crazy. years, but being that you're saying that, I'm just, you know, I was supposed to be in the movie Shaft, I was supposed to be Peoples. What? You know, that actor's a big, big, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay,

yo, rest and peace, John Singleton. He was coming to Jimmy's Bronx Cafe every Friday trying to convince me to be in Shaft, but we was too much on that party like a rock star. We was like

We ain't give a fuck with young, rich, rap niggas, big pun, double plat, we don't give a fuck. He's, John Singleton was in the trenches. He was with me in Washington Heights and fucking bummy apartment house,

but he had no business being there like, yo, Joe, I got this role. You could be peoples, because you know, what's my man the famous actor? He played peoples that he's... You see how he was speaking with a Spanish slang?

Yeah. He ain't Spanish. No, no, no. He's from... Fat Joe was supposed to be. people. Bro, you turn that road down? Dumb motherfucker. Like a dumb motherfucker. Every time

I watch that movie? I was supposed to be in glory. All right. Not believe you. All right. What's something that happened to you that you had an opportunity and you was like, fuck, Dad, I'm gonna stay a D-block with your aunt. I ain't doing that shit, but now when you

look back, you're like, damn, I should have did that. Yeah, have you had one of them? You got some of those. What? You got to give us one. The last thing of power, the last episode of power, the last season of Raising Canaan. Oh. I did take my wife to the Usher Show.

I saw you at that. I said back, I couldn't get a private. It wasn't meant to be. It was one of them be sad or be happy. You know how big that Raisin Cainan was. I got another one. I saw you at the Usher Show that time. Yeah.

Oh, you was there too? Yeah, in Vegas, yeah. You know, you go to Oz. shit, man, he forced you to do the greatest hits. Yeah. Like, I'm over there trying to go out. All I want is two free sickings. Right, that's it. It turned into it costs you more.

I do, man. My brother fat Joe, the light come like this. You all stay sick. And you got another word. Then they throw another one, another one. Another one. I'm like, shit. Is this a fat? Mars. Mars is making

you do a little concert. DJ Mars. My God. It's an honor. Your bucket, my bucket. You love basketball. Yes, sir. Played in the high school. It was a ball boy for the Chicago Bulls from 11 to 13.

That's MJ is? NBA. Yeah, he's seen NBA. He's seen Jordan debut, right? Yes, I've seen Jordan debut. First, I got a pitcher for it. You know, I might be putting him on blast, but I think Calip was a boy boy for Orlando Magic, too.

I never heard him say that before. But, you know, Jack? He caught Shaq. Yeah, Jack, Nick Anderson, all that, Dennis Scott. He played the NBA star in the movie. How did that fit? Yo, that was, bro. That was a movie.

We love basketball. Yeah, we love basketball. Joe, I know you love basketball is my life. We. Basketball was my life. I was it. Bro, that was like a dream, a dream, two dreams and one. Dream inside a dream.

Because that was my first lead role. And then I'm playing a basketball player. And then I'm like, in the movie, I'm playing against D. Wade. I'm like, damn, I'm trying to really do it. You can't do nothing with him, though. The dude is strong. And then once I was driving, you know,

the scene was like, you know, I was supposed to score over the White House song. D. Sake, I'm scoring over. And then just about a third take, he just smacked that shit. I'll show you what I'll really do to this shit. I said, damn. But, man, that was amazing. That was an amazing experience.

Queen Latifah, I got to give her love, man, because she, you know, the producers was looking at other people. And then she was like, I think he can do it. And the producers really believed him. And I had a tough time on that movie because it was my first lead. So at one point, man, they was thinking about kicking me off because I wasn't getting the scenes right. And, man, it was crucial.

And then I did this one scene, and they ended up, being like, okay, cool. And it wasn't even, you know, it's like the story you hear about, I mean, I ain't going to put myself on that level, but the story you hear about Al Pacino and Godfather, you know how... No, I ain't hear it. You killed it.

Al Pacino from the Bronx. Al Pacino, he's from the Bronx. That's right. That man is me. I can't tell you that. Everybody's in the Bronx. Yo, that man is me. But listen, what got in here is.

So Al Pacino, while they was filming the Godfather, the studio wasn't really happy with his work. They was like, this dude ain't delivered. So as Michael As Michael So the director He decided to move that scene up Where he

You know Where he first shoot them dudes Where the gun is in the bathroom Oh yeah the cop Yeah the cop 38 in the best He moved that scene up Because you know

They were watching You know When you're filming the movie You get to watch What they call dailies You watch At what y'all shoot every day So he said

I gotta move this scene up So they can see how cold This dude is And they see they move that scene up You do that gun like They said, make sure you throw the gun. Yo, that's... Menzo and them, they told him, throw the gun.

Wipe a dad, throw the gun, he threw the gun. Yo, just him, the tension when he's sitting there, when he's sitting there with them, the tension right there, like... Oh, man, Al Pacino, man, shout out. Where they beat him up? He had the... His shit was broken jaw, and he sat down, yeah, I understand this, that went in the bathroom, killed him, but I got to tell you something about Queen Latifah. Queen Latifah is in the studio with Cool and Dre. one day, I'm hanging out with it.

She looks at me for no reason, says, well, you think you fucking tough. She pulls the knife out. The shit, you got the key. She chased me around the studio with a knife. Come here, motherfucker. You ain't that tough. She had one of those. You ain't that tough, motherfucker.

She started chasing me around the studio. I see, you're a lot of people. Please, Queen. Please she don't play that shit. No, she's chasing me. She's the truth, bro. She got a, I chase. You've had Joe out the studio story.

I'm telling you, she did it in real life. They say it's the Puerto Ricans. Everybody got a knife in New York. You got to keep the awke. Where new projects you got coming? I'm working on this TV series for Apple. It's called Silo. Oh, yeah, yeah, I've seen that.

Check that out. Silo deep, right? Yeah, it's fresh, man. It's really fresh. And my man, Tim Robbins is starring in it. Tim Robbins from Shawshank Redemption and, like, you know, Mystic River and this one of Rebecca Ferguson,

some dope-ass actors and dope actors and the story is mean. It's dope. What's your top five rappers turn actors? That's a question. That's a great question. I'm a face for you. Will Smith got a, Will Siff.

There you go. Queen Latifah. Most death. That man was mean. No, no, he was 16 blocks 16 blocks You know, he quit rap He'll quit act I don't know where

Most Debt for someone It's three Let's go even in Barcelona and chilling Shout out to Yassin Yeah, shout out to Yasser That man is He is one of the That's three, let's go

Okay, I got you I have Queen Latifah Most dead I'm gonna go Ice Q Ooh That's four And then And then

Who else? Who else is out there? Oh. There you go. Thank you. Pock was fine. I want to go put myself. To Tupac was coach.

You did, though. I'm going to be in there. You know, we don't like the, you know, our era don't put ourselves in the shit. But you in there. Smoke a nacea is my first movie, man. That's fire. That was fired. That's the first movie I did, Joe.

And then, like, man, that was my first call back. You know, I've been auditioning, auditioning. And some of the movies I was. going for, they didn't even want to see me because I was a musician. They're like, I don't want to be, we're good on that. And in fact, because they had already had Alicia Keys in the movie, the director was like, I don't know if I want to see him, but the castor director was like, check them out. So I did the tape, and then they called me back.

I was so geek, man, my first call back. And I was flying from doing a show. I landed and went into that audition. Man, I felt that I was like, you know, I'm about to light this shit up. And I did it. maybe about a couple, about three weeks later, the director called me like, yo, you got the job, you got the job.

I was crying, I called my mother. Then I had to go tell Kanye like, yo, can go on this tour, man, I got a movie. And he was like, man, do your thing, do your dream, brother. Do what you got to do. I was like, thank you, appreciate you. That was my first movie, brother. All right, I mean, everything to me.

The other bag, you just got the theme for prime for the NBA. Yeah. We saw that. I saw that. Brun, let me tell you. I saw that. Hey, as we said, I'm representing us, I feel like, man, to be able to have the theme song, like, for the NBA. What?

On Prime Out. You could have never told me, like, me, James Poison. James Poison is a producer who did a lot of Lauren stuff, did a lot of our stuff, played with the roots. Like, Erica Baudu, he does incredible producer, pianist. We have it. Let's check it out. Yeah, and Corrine Wiggins.

We did that all together. Let's check. This is the same song. It's called Victory. I'm immediate. Victory is the name. Victory is the name of it, baby. Yes.

Oh, but the other things. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. That's my part I like that. Damn-b-da-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d. Thank you. Yo, I mean, I'm going to tell y'all, like, this is one that, for me, it's one of the...

First, I got to give it up, James Poison and Corrine Wiggins. We co-produced that together. the theme song, but we, and back in March, we submitted, you know, they were taking submissions from different people. Amazon was, and, man, we got together in the studio and just started creating that, like getting our musician cast together and just, you know, putting together this theme song. And we knew we wanted it to feel like, we wanted to feel nostalgic before it, because, you know, it's like Amazon is doing something new with the NBA.

But we still wanted that earth went and fire, but, and it needed to be something. I could come to Joe and Jada, and we still like, yo, You know, so, man, we, man. You know, you want to know what's so crazy, I hear Chicago all over that beat. Like, I hear Lupe Fiasco. I hear you. I hear all your spitters.

I hear everything. I hear all the Chicago spitters just going crazy on that beat right there. Like, that's sick. Shottown, like I said, Lupe Fiasco, Kanye West. I always say there was this one guy. He was a freestyleer. Juice.

Juice. And I would go to see this guy spit. Whenever I went to Chicago, I'd be like, yo, where the guy of Juice at? And they'd be like, yo, they got some shit tonight. And you, what? You go with? Yo, Juice was like, like, it's like almost like a hoop legend that, like,

that you didn't make it to the league. But he was like. He was, I want to give him his love because that man is incredible. He was feeding on, bro. He'd be. be, like, we'll sit there and freestyle for, like, through a whole show, just freestyling. And it'd be good.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, good. Just sitting there bars to death. And you sitting up in there, like, looking at them, like, oh, my God. Yeah. And shout out to Twist up. Yeah, Twister, man, come on.

Yeah, sir. Yeah, we wanted to bring that, like, we wanted to bring that soul to that theme song because it's like. You bought it. You know, like, the stuff we grew up, you know, Point Black, there's some classic joints, the one that we hear on NBC.

That's the classic. Yeah. Right, so we like... You know what? To me, this is your version of... That? Nah, put your team made up. I think he made up.

I'm loving it. Okay. Right? Yeah, for McDonald's. Push your team made up. I'm loving it. Yeah, I did. That's what you want.

You want this shit than 20 years from now when they show footage and they show footage. And then-da-da-da-da-a- See, and you remember that shit. What? Why?

I know what that is. And man, just for us, like, as black artists to have a theme song for a major sports, and that ain't happened. No. Like a theme, like, if you couldn't have told me when I was a bober boy. For them people to let you be a part of that collectively with the other guys and the people playing the instruments is a win for us.

It's a win for us, man. It's that we represent us, all of us. They get that. It was one of the first guys I call to try to get you on this box. Because you got that legendary beer. You know, I try to get, you know, you got whiskers. You ain't got no beer, man. Why you keep looking at me like, I don't want to have a beer.

Okay. So, Carmen, got the beer. He said, y'all, go, I ain't ready for that right now. I'm like, why fight the time when you can rewind the time? I never wanted to have a beard. Why be 53 when you can be 42? Why be 42 when you can be 31? Let me see.

Mr. Rose Royce. I'm already drinking it. You know, the whole movie sat. You know what I'm saying? The best coffee on the bar. I'm so talking about. Three generations, me, my dad and my son, you know what I mean? Sorisa rum, straight from Puerto Rico.

Sorisa. So how to how this? Sorisa rum, sirisa rum straight from Puerto Rico. Right, yo, so this. Sorisa, we own this. There's everything we all shit we own. You know, listen, your comment, but I'm telling you, if you need the little, you know... I do.

That's the quicker picker upper. You know, I got great. I can't be doing that one. You know, that's the Rose Royce of hair coloring. I'm not bullshit. It's right. Okay, I'm... And you know, some black and brown people, they get allergic to it.

Our shit is sensitive. Normonea free. We thought of everything. Is it vegan? It's not vegan. That's style's peas version of that. They're pretty vegan. See what I'm saying?

You're a vegan? So you can't even use it if it ain't vegan? Yeah. You can't have no... Let me tell you something. I throw my birthday party every year. I might have 72 mountains of food just there for no reason. Everybody, you walk by, grab a grate, whatever.

It's just too much, right? Yeah. Joe, what you got for a vegetarian? That's right. For vegan. I go, hold on. He identifies as plant-based. Plant-based.

My sister... My sister, I go in the house and come out with the coconuts. You know, the one you get the spoon with and break the inside with the spoon? I bring them the coconuts and pour it. He said, wow, Joe, you got these because this shit, they're from New York. They're from somewhere, they're from chili from the, I'll bring them the fucking coconuts with the stool. I'm like, I felt so good. I was like, yo, I got you.

I got the coconuts. Yeah, Joe, you got to have something for the vegans at the party. Yes. We ain't mine, man. My party's a flagrant for the video. Palo Santo. I'm going to make sure y'all. Say, I got to get some of that.

Yeah, you always ahead of the time. Make sure y'all get that because I'm coming. I'm going to be coming with a whole, like, not grooming, but that's one of the reasons. Like, it's like, I'm going to some oils and stuff, too, and some natural things. Oh, so I got to get running, huh? No, man. My shit, number one, CBS, Sally's all over. We number one.

That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. We're selling boxes. I found my first customer. I went to CVS over there, across the street from the Beverly Center in L.A. And it was a white guy. He had a fucking box in his hand.

And I said, yo, he didn't even know I'm on the box. I was like, yo, you used to rewind it? He said all the time, if it's good enough for him, it's good enough for me. He shows me, because, you know, we got Travis Kelsey on the box. Turned over and go.

It's good enough. For him, it's good enough for me. I was like, yes. Yo, that's amazing. Yes. I got to give it up for that. I was like, yes. You got Travis Kelsey.

Travis Kelsey, Brody Jenna. Yeah. We got Gallet, Nikki Jam, reggae tone, superstar. Like, we're not playing. We got a white boy called Wonderboy. He was that UFC. Yeah.

You know, we go. UFC, you UFC, you know, Trump might not mess with you if you got one of them on the cup. You know what I'm saying? You know, that's a statement. think. That's we pushed up in the front

my UFC guys over there. Leave us the fuck alone, bro. We don't want no smoke. This ain't that. That ain't this. It's a cracking kiss. Make some noise for our brother,

Tommy, y'all. Yeah. Yes, uh. Legend. Love, stop. Appreciate you. My brother. I appreciate y'all. Love y'all. Hey, I'm Cal Penn, and on my new podcast, here we go again.

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