Joe and Jada - Conway The Machine on Griselda, Benny The Butcher, Jay-Z & NEW ALBUM on the way

Episode Date: September 2, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by Griselda's Conway The Machine. Joe and Jada ask Conway about him, Benny The Butcher, and Westside Gunn making it big out of Buffalo, how Griselda managed to cut through the noise of the hip hop industry with straight bars and beats, the time Jay-Z surprised him on stage in Los Angeles, how he first linked up with rap producing legend Alchemist over Twitter DMs, and his upcoming album 'You Can't Kill God With Bullets.' 5:00 - Origins of Griselda 11:00 - Bars & beats over gimmicks 34:00 - Joe's WILD Colombia story 42:15 - Jay-Z surprising Conway on stage 58:00 - New album with Roc Nation [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.]See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You know it is your boy Jada. This is the Joe and Jada show. Every show is exclusive. Every show is iconic. Today we like to welcome our guests. My brother, one-third of Griselda, 100% of drum work. East side of Buffalo's own Conway the machine, make some north.

What up? What out? What out? What out, man? My brother was good. Man, life, man. Life is good, man. No doubt.

I appreciate that. I've seen you been over the water, crushing them crowds doing, you know what I mean, getting them bags doing what we do. How was that? He was in some places. I never even, I thought I've been everywhere. I was following you looking at some of the shows like, damn, where's he, he conquering land for us?

No, no question. Shit, man, that shit is, that shit is unbelievable, man. Like, the way that they love hip hop, man, they tapped into the culture over there is, you know what I mean? It's overwhelming, man, the love I felt out there. Like, I was out in Columbia. I was on in Argentina. I was out in fucking Georgia.

I was everywhere. Like, like you said, like, I was touching, I was touching land. I ain't never thought I would be. And I ain't think they can, they understand. Like when I'm bringing to the table with my lyrics. Yeah. So for the motherfuckers to be able to barely speak English and rapping my shit word for word, dog,

it's a different type of feeling. Right. At the time, it's feeling word. You know, you do my cloth, I'll claw for music, so I follow you. I follow you, Griselle, and a whole crew. Yeah. I can tell you like stages. You like performing.

Yeah. Yeah, that's my favorite element of it. Yeah. Yeah. Watching, like, dog, man, watching DMX, watching Buster, you know what I'm saying? Go definitely toward the top performance. Yeah, seeing, you know, I could just tell, like, they put a lot of emphasis in the stage performance part of it more than just, like, the pen. You know what I'm saying?

And I just like to go out there and just have, like, an outer body experience. Just leave it all on the stage, man. World, world. How, for the people that don't know, how did Griselda? How y'all did somebody meet in jail? Was y'all, y'all, how did y'all even link up? Yeah, no, shit, it's since the beginning, like, since since the beginning, like, niggas is his family, so it's like, you know what I mean?

It started with, like, me, Wes, Benny, and Machine on Black, rest and peace. Okay, rest in peace. You know what I'm saying? Then my man Cutter, my man Cutter locked up right now, but he, you know what I'm saying? He started rapping the shit with us, but this is well. when we was older. Like, you know what I'm saying? It was a little younger than me.

I was always like the rapping. Like, I've been battled rapping and fucking niggas up since, like, I was 12 years old, 13 years old, when the city just going crazy on whoever was that guy at the time, they had to see me. So that started with that. And, you know, them boys just seeing me watching me, you know what I'm saying? See how I get busy. You just turped into, like, yo, so I'm crazy and then, you know what I'm saying? like Benny just start becoming a monster himself

you know what I'm saying and shit just you know man we grew like that that shit grew like that we ain't really like get we ain't really take it to like the business side I really started trying to get serious until like after I got shot

you know what I'm saying once I got shot and like everybody was home like because niggas wouldn't never really be home from jail at the same time too so like she ain't going to to be locked up, Benny would be home. Benny would be locked up, West locked up.

And I knew it was, we weren't really never all on the streets at the same time until after I got shot. You know what I'm saying? And then after I got shot, it was just like, nah, bro, it's just, you gotta be the one to take us there, go crazy, just put everything in the, like,

get you sturdy, you know what I'm saying? The question I have is I've been to Buffalo. Yeah. You know, he's still got the Bronx crackheads in Buffalo. Like, if you wonder where the crackheads went, they're in Buffalo. Yeah, no, it's just crazy. The Bronx crackheads is in Buffalo, right?

And I've been there, and it's so hard to get out of Buffalo. Yeah. So to explain to everybody out there, you from upstate New York, that's like a six, seven-hour drive from the boroughs. Yeah, right? Yeah. How did you have hope? not only that

how did you really get on from Buffalo and then the whole crew got on too like how did you think you can make it from Buffalo yeah and no like nobody think they're gonna make it and nothing like football

niggas don't think they're gonna make it to the league niggas don't be you know what I'm saying like it's crack and that's it you feel me the streets

and that's it you feel me in but I always had the mind state dog just the right people hear me I'm out of here because I just always felt like I ain't, there ain't too many

niggas that could fuck with me. And that's was way back then. Like, you know what I'm saying? 96, 97, 99, 2000, you know what I'm saying? Like, and I think it ain't happen for me, for us. I think that was a blessing in disguise,

though, you know what I'm saying? Because we was blessed with the, the journey. We was able to learn. We was able to watch errors. We was able to study film, watch y'all game tape. You know what I'm saying? See how y'all are doing it.

Like you said, like I was saying, like I'm watching Buster Rhymes, perform, watching DMX go crazy from the 50,000, you know what I'm saying? I'm able to see that shit and learn and able to take little elements from everything and sharpen my blade until it was time. You know what I'm man?

But it's definitely to answer your question, man. It's tough, you know what I mean? I don't really know how we did it, man. It's just, I think it was just time. You know what I'm saying? Like, he just got, like I said, we got our shit in the right people to the right people man

and it's just like the bus they started just talking you know what I mean but we was like we was getting so we was just on our bullshit like we ain't want to even sign no deals and none of that we didn't want to fuck with nobody we was just like anybody coming to fuck with us

fucking we're doing our own shit we ain't really signing it but we should just start getting too crazy like the hoodies and shit flying off the table the CDs we can't sell the vinyl selling for like $1,000 it's like somebody to buy the vinyl

for 50 and this shit, it's on eBay, it's something for like $1,200. We're looking at this shit like we're getting murals painting in Japan and shit Paris. It's like this shit getting too crazy. We need management now. You know what I'm saying?

At least gets management. And you know what I'm saying? That's how we met Paul and all that. But that's how we really got our introduction in the game just hustling and making our shit boutique like I you know what I mean it was like

we was getting into this stream era this was in a beginning to that we like went against that like fuck that you gotta come see me we get this

yeah you can only get it it's only 187 of these you know we have in that 187

on the back of the huddies so the huddies is getting marked up resale they like took this formula from like the sneaker game took that same

formula and shit man we're here today man you know what I'm saying five So it went from a mission impossible to get signed or something like that in Buffalo. Once y'all got popping, the whole Grizzella, they was going out there trying to sign your cousins, everybody. Yeah, no, they're out there.

They've been pulling up. They've been pulling up because, you know, I'm good friends with Bone Thug. They're from Cleveland. That's been a little further to get on than Buffalo. Right. And when they started popping, they signed every cousin in Cleveland they ever heard. they liked, didn't like. You know, this industry's the industry.

They just pull up once they know. Like Warren G, he got snatched from under... He's Dr. Dre's stepbrother. They went out there, and Leo Cohen went to Compton. You know, that's what they do. They go came to the school street, CX, to the Jets. Yeah, he wasn't scared. But you got to get it popping, though.

You got to out hustle. One thing I love about you guys, First of all, you guys get it, right? Everybody don't get it. And the one thing I loved about you guys is, you know, I come from digging into crazy. I come from the underground boom-back system, right? But what I love about yours,

y'all always invested in your fashion, in your fly. That was a big difference. Merge, too. They took merch to the, they merged to the, they merged to a rocky ship and took that shit. But my thing is the fashion. Yeah. Right?

So I'm looking at y'all, and y'all sound beats him. You know, that's where we come from That's where we started And then, but you guys Was like throwing that shit on and all that And I could go to our underground concert Today, not for nothing Then they're going to have some bullshit

Yeah, they ain't wearing the shit They're wearing whatever you gave them free Def Jam coming out now or something They don't give a fuck Right? And so, but these guys got it They were like, okay, we're going to be underground superstars We're going to throw that shit on

And who really started that? That's just what it was. I mean, I was really the kind of the nature of it in a sense, like, but I think that's why, too, like, you know, our music and shit, like, the young boys and shit kind of fuck with us and, like, tapped into our shit, too, because we're able to, they able to relate to us, you know what I'm saying? Like, we, we was outside doing that. We was the neighbors who was having, having the Avericks and shit on giving them, you know what I'm saying, little $5 to go to the store or something for me. So they looked up to us and stuff and I think it just kind of translate worldwide. Like, look at them niggas, because shit,

I ain't that young, you feel me? So the young niggas tap in and fuck with me and look after me like, yo, what a big bro type shit? What are our aunt? So, you know, we'd be having that shit on and we'd be talking that shit too. That's more relevant. But over them same type of, I mean,

I got conductor in the cut. I got Derringer in the cut, Alchemist. I need a Darren's side. Too, man. I need a couple of derringes, man. Yeah. Daringer, get that man right, man. Darynges.

Some of your influencers. You work with a lot of legends. I mean, that's your show or test it. How you get busy, you get a lot of calls from us, for me, styles, cane. Yeah. Dudes that really do music with substance. How do you feel about that? Because he doesn't want to work with some of these garbage.

Nah, yo, for me, That's, to me, that's the fucking, that's the award, you know what I mean? That's the, to get my flowers from the emcees, and I respect looking at that shit. Like, at the end of the day, I look at my soul, I'm an emce. I'm truly this hip-pop, this emceeing element of it. Everything else, like, I don't really, you know what I'm saying? I'm an emcee first for me. So it's like, for me to just, you know, get that love, get that embrace, you know what I'm saying?

from niggas like Buster from the chef, you know what I mean, from Starks and them niggas, you know what I mean, from y'all, you feel me? That's what it is. I remember we had our first show ever.

We didn't ever sell a record or nothing. We did our first show. We was on tour. We did it at all. I think Websterall, first stop was in New York City. And Westall, man. I came to the show with Prodigy.

Like, Prodigy was with us. Yeah. Hanging all day. Shit, y'all pulled up. Ray pulled up. Ray pulled up and performed like hell this down

that shit was Walt L dog it was like a real hot as hell I don't think it's gonna it was crazy I don't know

if it's been no show like that in New York City that feel was tight and intimate sense that SOB's got

I mean that on Western Hall shit I've been to a lot of shit it's just the love like it was

graffiti and shit on the wall I know it was all type of little box cutters and pocket rockers in it It was about 12 pocket rockers in there.

You know what I mean? A couple of butter knives. A lot of MCs that were the greatest in the game didn't know how to pick beats. You guys know how to pick beats. I won't say their names because they're living legends. I know you're not going to say their name. Don't do it.

I told me already, you know that he ain't going on. But there's some legendary artists. It's hard. When people ask me, you know what? such and such ain't blow. Homeboy was the nicest, this and this and that. But when you heard

their beats selection, you know, just now, we was just vibing to your shit. You play like five in the world. All them beats feel like they shooting hair on the street. You know,

the back room, the fields are going down, all of them. I don't know. The 60s. No, I feel like that shit comes from like, you know what I mean,

having access. Sometimes when you might have got no access to no fire You know what I mean You're making the best of what you what you got in front of you You know what I'm saying It's like I don't been in it in times like that Where the beast was You know what I mean

Yeah then we got Derringer You know what I'm saying He was in-house like I'm sleeping on the nigger couch You feel me and I'm getting access He's making these shits on the spot You know got out We got conductors and you know what I mean Different different niggas

Like it's just just to access. We got the resource now. You know what I'm saying? I can hit Swiss. I can hit different niggas and get, I got the resource now.

You know what I'm saying? You know what I was put it as to like, you know, what you said? Some of my legends are shit. You might not have to, you know what I mean? A reach to get no,

nothing crazy. And then you, you want to, you need the money or you're trying to put something out so bad. Like, fuck it. I'm just going,

I'm going to just pick the 10 hottest shit that I got right here. Fuck it. You know what I mean? the 12, these 12. What's your creative process, I know you need some Zah. Yeah.

Whatever. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm just smoking me warm. You feel me? And, um, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of repisado.

You know what I'm saying? Some type of, some type of sports, you know what I mean? Presentation on the screen and on mute and shit, some, the beats, crazy.

That's my stand. And why myself? like I just me and the engineer maybe like one of my men's like that shit I don't really I don't need a party Yeah I and they party And I take everybody to work with me day

I do what I see you saying I just got a sweep first Yeah Yeah Same shit like you but I got to sweep At the sweep The actual sweep What bro?

Do you, they're dirty in the job Nah It's just like a Like a fovee here I got a sweep OCD It ain't even dirty It's not even nothing on the floor

But I gotta sleep first Before you go ask the line Yeah, I gotta sweep I'm sweeping it I'm sweeping something The negativity You write You write at home

Or you write right at the studio Whatever this shit comes to? I do both Like a lot of I used that shit don't even I don't even be hitting No pad a lot of that shit Yeah

Off the top Yeah I mean I ain't really freestalling Yeah, I'm thinking of it. I'm giving it thought, smoke me one or two, and then I'm like, I'm like taking your nap, but saying, wake up,

you all right, I'm ready, load me up, and then I just go like that. So a lot of that shit on that album, I hadn't even wrote, I ain't write that down. Ew. I'm writing the lyrics down now

because, you know, like, yo, I need the lyrics, I need the lyrics. So I got to go back, listen and shit like, like, damn, what the fuck I said? You know what? Is there a difference

from being high writing lyrics or being sober? For me, nah. For me, no. You know what I'm saying? People say they got to be higher to write. Do you think it's a difference? It just puts me in the better comfortable. I mean, sometimes you don't need,

for me, it's really the beat. Yes. If the beat is super fucking incredible, I don't need nothing. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Because I used to write and then, you know,

towards my latest stage in my career, it's more like, let me go in the studio, throw that beat on. I don't even want to hear it before that. Right. Then it's just talking to a new clock. Yeah, I'm just flowing this shit.

Like, you know, they asked me one time, man, this guy was incredible. I was overseas on one of them tours. And some journalists from some fucking country out there, he said, man, what's the process of writing? And I explained to him that, once they put a fire bead on it's like remember when we was in kindergarten

and all that and they would make them books that the fucking trees popped out and all that yeah the rhymes just pop out he was looking at me like I was crazy but I realized I sounded crazy while I was explaining it to him but that's how I really worked when they throw the beat on

you know to me the beat tell me what to say whether good or bad happy sad party whatever the beat always tell me what to say that's how it is for me too I need that beat and then I need to be in a good space but that beat will wake me up on my sleep I don't care what kind of space I mean

is that beat crazy I'm gonna stop with my track like I did a song on my last shit I was leaving the studio it was like 630 in the morning I've been in the out and I already did like four shits I'm drunk I'm on my way

I'm ready to go to sleep I'm leaving so the producer came in I had never worked with this producer or nothing he just plugging his shit up while he playing in the joint that's a thing a play son and I'm like

I stop by the door like yo what's that no I had that and ended up being on my album that shit was crazy that shit was crazy

that's how it works with music like they don't they give us the least credit but they know though for it being an art form but it's art

when you hear something that measurement rises you you gotta have it you know what I'm like I tell you all the time this is how we do It's Friday night

And I'm done it fun You go to a party You throw that shit all You rocking I just told Tess Yeah last time you played that All the time Man

I just told Ted's movie You're going to DJ in my house For my birthday I said yo bro strictly Harlem I want to feel like I want to thank you I want

Do not play I need that vibe because for some reason I'm telling Chris today, right? I say how they was killing dudes in that time, right? Like when you, if you think about when they, the music I'm talking about, you know,

you know, wait your time, young man or mama used to, and you in the club and the beautiful woman they're dancing. I'm not talking about hip-hop. How do they get the clapping? Money. Their old niggas, oh, money.

Dudes was clapping over their girls, this, this. Like, if you think about that time, right, that's it. That's the fact. That's the fact. You're like, how the hell these guys shoot the place up? Like, what I heard, yeah, they hold money. Somebody fuck with somebody girl.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know, what makes you happy, brother? Me? Fucking with my dog, man. No doubt. You know what I'm saying? Fuck with my little bulldog, my little French bulldog, man.

Other than that, being left alone, You know what I mean? Yeah. No phone or phone on all. Peace of a challenge. I find my happiness doing that. Showing me playing a little 2K or something. Or in the studio.

A dope beat makes me happy. That's right. What's going on with drum work? We get into it, man. I got, you know, skis. My artist Jay Skis. And he put out. We put him out.

We started him in like 2020, 2020, 2021, but he just did another. He dropped like two, two shits this year. He tore, he did a tour this year. I got a S.K., my man, Kendricks. I got a couple of shooters, man. Yeah, nice roster. Nice roster. You know, that's beautiful.

We're doing this. We got an album, a compilation, like, I'm with all of us. You know what I'm saying? Put that shit out this year, too, probably. You know, it's beautiful. people don't understand is like when God give you the opportunity to be the first to get on and live your dream out and then you go back to say, all right, I'm going to share it with you. Yep.

You know what I'm saying? There's nothing like that putting somebody on helping them see their vision go through. And that's very commendable because you could just be thinking about yourself. You know, I could think of phenomenal artists that we love the death. they never put nobody on, meaning rap-wise, you know. So when you go out your way to do that, you know, we all get what shortcomings or we all try to help certain people that went bad, you know what I'm saying?

But for the most part, that's a beautiful thing to share your journey and your dream with some up-and-coming artists. Yeah, no, it is. That is, you know what I'm real? Especially for me, like, because I was always a type of personality. I don't mesh well with everybody. Like I don't really hang around a lot of people. I don't keep

a lot of, I keep a small circle. So, you know what I mean? For me to even, you know what I man, just open up pause like that. Like, you feel me and let people just come fuck with me. You know what I mean? Jump in the back seat, man. Let's ride up there

together. It's actually inspiring for me. You know what I mean? It's actually doing more for me than them, you know what I mean? Because I'm getting out of my old self, you know what I'm saying? How to you out of me? Yeah, being just a short-tempered, hot-headed type dude. I'm just more patient with things now.

I know how to calm myself down. I get upset and stuff. So that's why I like to be alone, like, the isolation. You know what I mean? No doubt. Which you got going on anymore touring? What's going on? You guys, you're going back out?

Yeah, I'm on the tour. I'm on the tour of the States. starting in November. I think I got to show at the end of October though, out here. I'm not sure, but yeah, I'm going back

on that role. You know, I stay on that role. No doubt. Touching them people. Yeah, I like to be on that stage and that's, you know, fucking with my fans, man. Mm-hmm.

You know, taking them pictures and signing 30 vinals. You know what I'm saying? Wait, niggas with the finals. They got Apple tags on, that's a fact. You know, where are you at them? You know,

like 30 hours so they're like nah I got a mall machine you know what I'm going back on road I'm going back overseas and shit I got some couple of shows out in Greece you know what I'm saying fire now I'm not sorry to Mongolia you ever been to Mongolia

that's when you know crack trying to get the bag where he's going to Mongolia I had a dude in jail with me a white boy you know it's real racial in jail but I put him down without coup nobody wanted him, but I seen the strength of them. I used to call him Hong Kong's Mongolia. So one day he comes up to me a month later. He says, hey, boss, I said, what's that?

He said, I just realized Hong Kong and Mongolia is two different places. I said, I don't give a fuck. We're lucky I gave you a nickname. Hong Kong's Mongolian. I'm going to Mongolia. That's shit. That's a trip. Who's on that?

The bag is on the show. Who are you going there with? Superior. If you hear Fat Joe, you know I hate to fly. If you be flying in. I fly in Mongolia. Is this, shh. That shit, like eight hours after China, some wild shit.

It's a mission. I got to go to Dubai from Dubai to China, then Mongolia. You're going to stop in Dubai. Hey, and go to Dubai pick up a couple of, you know, bags and then fly. You know what's up, man. You know what's going on? You know what's going on. You know what's that Mongolia, man.

That shit far as fuck. We're going to see what it is. Where you been at where the fans was the craziest about y'all? Everywhere, nigga. Oh, man. Probably. Some way you didn't expect, probably in Greece and probably South America. South America was Daisy.

It was crazy, bro. South America is, it's electricity. man. It's a whole different type of energy. Shit is insane, dog. The show's the line was around two blocks. I got to go with your promoter. Whoever your promoter was.

I need to. I need a trade. I didn't do so good. Latino. I'm going to keep it real. That's one of the only places I ain't do good. Like, I sell my shit out all the time. Boy, I went to South America.

That shit was light work. But I seen Wu-Tang go out there And that shit was pan-famonial. And I was like, damn, I must have went with a whack promoter. No, that shit was crazy. I need his promoter. Yeah, we need that guy. That shit was insanity out there, dog.

Wow. We shot the video out there in Bogota and shit. You know what I mean? We were just out there. That's what I was on. The videos in Bogota. You doing shit. Whoa.

The danger element was definitely profound. Oh, yeah, it's heavy in and out. Hurry out, you got that shock. Let's get out of here. Go, go, go. Cartels over there, abducting people and all types of shit. Bogotov, the name is name, Englique. Ingleika.

You know, in Gleke? Right. You want me to tell a story? Do you want me to tell a story I got one? I didn't hear you. So they paid me wild money to go to Columbia. wild money right and they did like stadiums and they were empty they had a little 500 000 people shit supposed to have 10 15 000 people i walk in after the second show in the hotel

and fly hotels this guy blew the bag and i see his workers just looking like man nervous and you know people who were being nice to me and all that and he was over there talking to him like this So I walked over. Said my wife upstairs, I wanted my wife. I was like, yo, what's up, puppy? He said, what's up? I would like to take a bat with nails in it and put it in your ass and turn it inside.

I said, Butter Rockets. So I'm like, take a bat with nails, turn it in your ass. I want to hang you. Upside down. And then he started talking all this. This is in Colombia? Right?

So I get it. He lost a super bag with just where he paid me. Then he had to rent stadiums. He thought Fat Joe was going to be pandemonium and shit was light work, right? So he talking crazy Tony Montana shit. But I tell him when he finished, I say, yo, you know what, man? You miss your calling. You should be in Hollywood writing them scripts.

Exactly. Because the shit you're saying, no, I'm not going to lie. Shit phenomenon. Like, you got that shit. You know, but me, I don't give a fuck. I'm not really scared of you, my man. So it is what it is. You should stop arguing with your thing.

I go upstairs. The next day, we go to Medell Yink. My daughter grew up with a little girl since they was in kindergarten. Her father comes to school in all events. I know I'm Colombian men. dressed nice nice most decent guy this this that he invited us his house and met a yin so we got four cops our security we get to the block to to the hill because it's up on a mountain and it was like big mistake you're not going to i said yeah i'm going up there he was like no way no way

i'm like senor such as such as my friend he said he's your friend i says my friend we go up there bro they made i don't know if you know what sancho is they made a pot of sancho soup this shit was like a human fit in there they was like this then they had a living room a living room where the glass opens you you was you wasn't with us ass and the horses was doing pasapinos doing the horses you see with the tricks and this and this and that it was in the living man they had a swimming pool the horses they were

swimming and shit in the living room. So imagine how we watch NFL, they got the horses topping, doing this and this and that, right? I never seen no shit like this. I've never been a part of this. I get back to the hotel. The promoter dude just told me

he wants to shove a bat in my ass, flip me up, sir. Why didn't you tell me, you know, Mr. Maldenado? I said, I didn't even know he was that dude, he's in Miami, undercover nicest guy. Seeing him at school.

He looked like ghosts. Like ghosts? He's the Colombian ghosts. When I go over there, he's like, why you don't tell me? You know, Mr. Maldonado. I said, this is my guy. It's my, sorry for everything I said the day before. I'm so sorry.

I said, nah, nah, so good. Brother, saw love. And I happen to know the guy by mistake. That's my Columbia story How's it good one? No, that was a good That was a good one That was a good one

What else you got going on Outside of music You know You like the vest I know you like the You got the label You do the merch You do shit

You got any cannabis You got some cannabis We got some We got some We got some drum work Exotics You know what I'm saying We got

I'm writing a little short film Fine I'm about the Dabble in the podcast space No doubt Why not? I got a, I got, like, some fool shit, like, full review shit to another, another little space like that. And just getting, can more artists.

You still a foodie. Yeah, yeah. Only certain shit, though. I don't really eat anything, though. You know what I need a certain way, yeah, I'm going to fuck with it. I'm going to fuck with you, you know what I'm going to. You know, I went to Thailand. We did rolling loud.

We did rolling loud. And Thailand, I was going to do that one. That's the phone of them I wanted to do that. All right, but listen, it's a little bit of a culture shock or whatever. But the point is, I stood in a hotel. I was scared. I'm going to keep real. Don't think God like them, you don't know if it was in.

I was in the fanciest hotel you could be it. Man, this shit was incredible, but I was scared to eat. Like, if it wasn't like eggs and turkey, but I was not eating this shit. Sure enough, I go on Instagram and little. Uzi is eating like a fucking fried fucking roach or some shit that shit went by I said

I am not leaving this fucking room beat I'm sitting here watching CNN until I see regular shit at the fucking listen the hotel was out of control fly you know I'm sitting

my sweet is here Cardi B's here little Uzi like everybody with somebody so the shit was too fly but I was scared with no disrespect I was scared to like trash shit

like going the street and you still got your festival yeah I still got the festival yeah I still going to try you mean

that shit that shit was yeah that shit was crazy yeah yeah yeah drumwork fest

um we did it for a couple of years and shit we're gonna reboot that I mean probably bring it back 26

you know what I'm up there two three weeks from now and um yeah saying that buffalo's guard coming through you know what I'm saying yeah yeah same lady's hip hop in all over you guys you got got my man shout out to my ball but should have went the heck you know my shit's symmetric my shit you can look at this shit through deep from every yang you see what I got to deal with no but should have went to heck his wedding is that same day and I can't make it because I got that show in buffalo

it was a time but shout out the should have went to heck and his wife to be how'd you meet Alcombs just on Twitter like he heard once I don't know you can spit he didn't reach out

that's exactly why and like he he tight I got like people was tagging me he didn't even know my Twitter handle I didn't even have

no many followers and I had just started the page and he was he seen a freestyle I saying I was on YouTube like yo

you can create you DM me the number like yo let's link the next time you come L.A. come through and we did that and the rest was history.

That's fine. Love Alchemist, bro. I'm glad everybody, you know, he always was that dude, but I'm glad they're acknowledging it now and they're seeing his greatness, you know, you know, guy like Alchemist, quiet, real hip-hop. Yeah, for sure. And now he's doing Erica Badu album.

I listen to the Freddie Gibbs album. I listen to, you know, pretty much anything he got to do with I tuned in on Alchemist what was some big moments for you like who did you meet what was the time that someone came up to you

and just said like you guys oh man probably probably whole probably whole we was doing that show out of LA and um

he pulled up yeah he just pulled up like they was at a game or some shit you feel me he crossed the street at the stables and the niggas just pull it up Watch the show

Like I'm performing on Go for a towel Look up He's standing there On the stage Just watch it I'm like yo Am I bugging?

No you was bugging Even though it happened I was bugging Like hope don't do I mean I invited him The 36 birthday Pongzee He ain't never put a lot

Yeah Yeah And they're Katie You know what I'm saying That nigga pulled up To a show It was tapped in just like knowing the music.

Easy Money Sniper, he love hip-hop. He's a hip-hop lover. We got some dope beats, too. You got KD produced. I ain't know that. Yo, Katie, Katie, one of them dudes that if I big him up and say he'll diss me on Twitter. You know, I keep telling you,

I got certain guys that when I big them up, they'll diss me for the culture. They'll be like, yo, Craig. For the catch. I don't really know about that. It's like, I got a selective list now. that I can big up. You can't even big motherfuckers up 2028.

Go big up, Katie. Man, that's my boy. Trying to tell you, I big him up. Yo, I never seen a better dude at the rocker this, this, that. You cat, crack, that day. I'm like, yo, this guy. Like, I can't. I don't know, man.

We're in the media space now. Yeah. So we ain't in the rapist space. You got the hoodie on still. You're chilling, rapper. We out here talking the dudes. Sometimes I big dudes up and they come at me. Like, fuck that.

That's not how I. I remember, and I'm, my man, I bigged you up, dog. Like, what the fuck? So, KD. I remember that Jay-Z. You know what I mean? Yeah, that went viral when all pulled up to his ones. Your man, West Side Gun, man.

I love this guy, man. He, uh, I remember going down Times Square. And he had the whole, the big billboard, but he had the Balenci. Like, that motherfucker, he wanted to dress, right? Like, I love that shit. Like, he got that fucking Balenciaga, three-quarters shit on this with the back. I'm like, I had to step out the car because, you know, that shit hit my, but that's that shit right there. You know what I'm saying?

So, shout out your man, West Side Gunner. Benny, you guys, you know, pretty much you guys just restored a feeling, right? A void that was really, really missing. And even guys who felt like. you, who were nice like you, they chose the other route trying to be the gimmick or the new or the this or that. Microwave shit. Microwave shit.

And y'all just said, you know what? We're going beats and rhymes. And then you caught everybody like a hove that loves real hip hop, the essence, the purity. Because it's very rare with the youth to see somebody, because that is the harder route. The beats and moms, correct? Yeah. Because the overnight success is the gimmick shit. You understand what I'm saying?

But, you know, not to say some of them ain't nice. Oh, my God. Some of them, you know, did you? Got too many. Overnight is not too many overnight. You know, but that's what we feel like. You got to go like pain. There was a huge void there.

You know what I mean? And guys who were doing it. what you were doing never really took off. Yeah. And so when y'all start taking off and y'all start creating your own shit, we're loving that. Yeah.

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Legacy, where you see yourself drumwork resilda. in the next five years. My man. Rich like y'all. Yeah, man. I'm going to see, that's something I'm rich. I count everybody, pocket. You come in with his staff.

He comes in with his staff of five. I count everybody. He got the fucking had the bucket low like, fuck it, though. He got some money this guy. How important is it to give back? You know what I mean? Showing the younger. to what they call these guys,

the Y-Ns in Buffalo that, you know, you can make it. It's some hope, some sense of encouragement. It's extremely important, man, because especially coming from Buffalo, we ain't had that. We ain't had nobody to give us no advice, no encouraging words

or even show us a blueprint and how to, you know what I'm saying, make it in that space. So it's important, you know what I mean? That's what this is all about. You know what I mean? You can't take none of this shit with you, man. But you're going to leave it here.

You can leave it a lot here. You get back. So I don't want it to end. You know what we was able to accomplish for the city of Buffalo and the whole upstate. You know what I'm saying? I don't want it to end with just us. So we got to, you know what I'm saying?

We got to pour it back in, put it back in the pot, you feel me? Yeah, like I see. said, I seen Wanda, I seen Tyrone, I seen Junebug, all the crackheads from 88 up there in that Buffalo. The motherfuckers went up, they shipped them up. I'm telling you, I was outside in Buffalo. I said, God damn, he's got the fucking Bronx crackheads up here. So let me ask you something in the streets perspective, right?

Because you said one of y'all was always in jail. I never heard that perspective. So being from Buffalo and upstate, the cops and all the jails. Yeah, but all the jails are up there, right? And so, like, when you go, you got a bigger crew? No, I wonder if they send them down. Did they send us up there?

This is the question, do you go to jail upstate? Yeah. With everybody you grew up with? So all you're, like, deeper? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there'll be a lot of Buffalo niggas in upstate pens. And even the cops, like, here, we can. can't relate to them.

Right? So if you in Rikers Island, you got some black Spanish cops, they're talking to you like black and Spanish cops. Then you go up north. And that's what you're dealing with the KK and all that. Yeah, yeah. But you're already dealing with them. Y'all living with Buffalo.

So y'all know Uncle Tom. 100%. Yeah. Scotts. No, that's a fact. 100%. Yeah, I never know. Every time I went up state to visit somebody,

I always sort of like, is there like a Buffalo crew or upstate crew that they're right there? Oh, isn't it? They're across the street. Now, I don't want to go there. Don't do that to me. I'm not good with the cold. There, isn't it? I'm a sunshine, motherfucker.

That below zero. My brother did time upstate, man, that motherfucker. I don't give a fault what clothes you sent them. That motherfucker was cold. He'd be like, yo, Joe, I ain't go outside. This shit cold, for real. A couple of artists, you ain't got to say top five, but a couple of artists that paved the way for you that, you know,

you consider living legend, you know, you really fuck what they work. There's plenty. There's plenty. You know what I mean? I'm just like recent, like, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, like, I'm going to say my nigga Morris, Rock Marcy. Yeah, shout out to Rock Marcy.

I'm going to say, um, my nigga Saul. Walker. Sorts Walker's nice to you. I fuck with Sorts Walker. Yeah. Hey, J. Why you always act like I'm just saying? That's a great...

I like him. I like him. I like him. I like, I like, I like, um, I like Herb. I like G. Herbal. Herb is my nigga. Can't lie to you just had a show in Vegas. When I walked off stage, they played the record and I had to ask like four or five.

I said, who's that? Yeah. Who's that? Who's that? And it was like, yo, that's G. Herbal. I was like that. Herbal was nice. Herb, herb nice.

That record kind of like touched the third rap. Yeah, no, Herb nice. You know, every now and then the record, you hear a song, and that shit touch the third rap. Oh, this shit, crazy. Yeah. That's your guys. Yeah, right now, that's what I'm listening to, I'm fucking right now. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Listen to our clips, you know, you know, the tip, you know, shit. that style right now. You already know the that I get your own. I'm just going to go to that show. James, you, you call me by everything else.

You ain't tell me the clips was here too. I was sitting on the couch. I was doing absolutely nothing. There's all these group texts of all these shows and then tell us that. The clips, bro, you think we wasn't fucking pulling up? You got to be out of fucking, like this shit.

I wanted to be in attendance. I don't want VIP. I would have been right in the crowd. loving this show Real hip-hop shit James You see when I say They'd be trying to do shit to me Like I'm trying to go to the

I'm going with the family To the Bad Bunny concert And I got the call I ain't really want today Even though it's nothing but love But I got the call Yo, we don't want you to see people We're going to take you through the house

Where you get the free drinks I thought we was going to be in the crowd Like you know EIP, VIP They don't want That we're supposed to pull up They ain't letting you see humans? No, they ain't let me see humans.

You think I'd be joking about that shit. They just gave me the court. Urge you coming. No humans. We're going to, no humans. We're going to slip you in backstage, put you through the, I'm like, I thought I was going to really act up. You know what I'm saying?

But yeah, the clips. Clips album is, he's, uh... Clips album crazy. Man, I hope what they did just beats and rhymes continues to do the numbers they did. Now, everybody want to make up hoax and this and that. Them boys did numbers. You know what I'm saying?

For not commercial lies. Like, you guys, you'll ever do a song with like Selena Gomez and shit like that? I would love to him. I can't wait to him. Oh, you ready? Yeah. Ah!

Yeah. See, I found out, I hung out. I thought he was going to say, I thought I was going to do a leap or a couple times. We, I definitely threw that on the table with my man Clovis. Like, yeah, man. We got to get in that studio together. You know what I'm saying?

I see it. I see. You know, me, I'm, you know, I started underground, brother. And my dream was to be a big artist and a superstar. And the minute I got the opportunity, I did it. You know what I'm saying? Then, you know, I get it. I see what you're saying.

I'm going to fuck with that. Everybody don't fuck with that. Just everybody don't. The goal is did not, they get the fuck out of it. So you got the new album in the distro deal with Rock Nation. Tell us about that, Bagalicious. No, you can't kill God with bullets. I'm about to drop that shit, man.

It was, like I said, it was... You can't kill God with bullets. These titles. It was important for me to, you know, how this is a part of my chapter to be fucking with Rock Nation. And, you know what I'm saying? Bring my album, bring my business. over here with them, you know what I'm saying?

It's true deal. So, yeah, shit, shit lit now. Shit, shit, shit lit. You know what I mean? BTC, man, belt of culo. Oh, geez. What about giving belt, man? Belt and cool, man.

T.C. Now, I'm surprised I ain't think of that one, right? Cool, poppy. We're going to whip your ass. For real. How's your relationship with God, the most high or, you know? You know, God is the greatest, man.

God is the greatest. Say it for the guys in the back. God is the greatest, man. Say it for the back of the congregation. You know, that's how I feel, right? So if God forbid I got shot right now and I got five seconds, I'm praying to God. That's how much belief and faith I have in God. Who else are you going to pray to?

Well, some guys don't want to pray to it. What I'm trying to tell you is I've seen the God preaching in the U.K. And a man took his time to stop and argue with him. That's fake. This, you preaching fake, you this, this is, you know, it's good to see because I've never seen that before. I've never seen somebody, you know, have that energy and that perspective against God. But some guy was, they were just arguing with the guy in the UK. He was like, hey, God told me to tell you, he loves you, this, this, that.

We don't care. We about, you know, there's an opposite side of that. So, you know, to know that God is the greatest, you know, it's the greatest key to have. I mean, for me, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, God is everything to me. But, um, for real. It's hard. For the great beautiful.

Okay. This guy crazy, right? That was beautiful. Yeah, Jay, the crazy. Y'all think I'm crazy. He's witty like a mom. Now I know why you top five. Because you be shooting me every episode.

like this. Never shoot you. Hey, Joe, what about them legs? What I'm looking at this? This guy. I thought to get you a destroying me. I'll get you a leg deal.

I'll have to get you a deal. Then you go, this is what? $100 million for the calf. Nah, this guy's insane. But brother, man, we like to thank you for taking the time. I'll pull it on the show. Can't kill God with bullets.

Check it out. Look for it. with Rock Nation distro. Drum work is coming. Reselda's already here. I know what we're doing. I fucking shit up. BTC belt and cooler.

I got to tell you, we sit down and thank God a whole bunch of artists want to sit on the blue couch. And my business partner, I got to say, y'all think we're doing good

and fat Joe crazy, but this guy he's very selectful with the artist to sit on the couch he got a problem he turns down guys this big and your name came up and in one second he was like yo

100% we need to react you know me for a guy like me I look up I don't even say nothing I didn't even because I don't think that ever happened

when someone is mentioned and he's like million percent i just look up okay stay down i guess we got him in the show because he got him co-shawned who he's a hard one to get sometimes everybody come up same thing with it i should do you want to say

nobody's name you y'all kiss he ain't shit man let me tell you think he's a nice guy this guy diabolical boy I just be like you know I don't, listen, bro, we just want you to know we love you. Your contributions to the game. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise to Conway the machine, you all right?

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