Joe and Jada - De La Soul on 'Cabin In The Sky' w/ Nas & Mass Appeal, Q-Tip & SHADY rap labels

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by Posdnuos and Maseo of the legendary De La Soul crew, and the room full of hip hop royalty chop it up about De La's upcoming album 'Cabin In The Sky' releasing this F...riday under Nas' Mass Appeal Records for their Legend Has It... series. It's their first album in nine years as well as the first project created without founding member Trugoy the Dove, who tragically passed in 2023, and it features unreleased verses from Trugoy, as well as new verses from Nas, Q-Tip of A Tribe Called Quest, Black Thought from The Roots, Common, Slick Rick, and more. They talk about the hip hop world's outpouring of support after Trugoy's passing, the origins of the Native Tongues collective with Q-Tip, their catalogue dispute with Tommy Boy Records, and the possibility of taking legendary rap groups on tour with them... including Fat Joe's Diggin' In The Crates crew. 4:15 - De La's place in hip hop history 6:00 - RIP Trugoy the Dove 8:30 - Breaking down 'Cabin In The Sky' 15:15 - Origins of Native Tongues 20:00 - Fat Joe's friendship with Q-Tip 24:45 - CRAZY features on 'Cabin In The Sky' 34:00 - Posdnuos thought Joe was Andre The Giant 38:00 - Going up against the labels 46:00 - Joe's publishing deals story gets HEAVILY flagged 51:00 - Potential 'Cabin In The Sky' tour 55:00 - De La debuts "Run It Back" feat. Nas [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] Joe and Jada now on Patreon All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:25 Today's guests, when you think a hip-hop royalty, when you think of somebody left their phone on, get them out, when you think of bars, when you think a camaraderie, when you think a loyalty, when you think a standing ten toes down as artists to fight for your rights, even when it's not looking good,
Starting point is 00:03:49 but just that you just stay down. Without further to do, ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for De La Sore. What's up? Thank you. All right. First of all, brothers, wow. Believe it or not, you know, when we from, we pay home. Okay, so I lose my section eight.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Ah! My bina. It's a case I lose my section. And they, I need something to fall back. That's a big deal. You guys out there don't know. That's a big deal. Soon you'll know.
Starting point is 00:04:31 And those are dead stock, too. You know what I mean? You ain't got to worry. And they know old ain't those came straight out the box. There you go. D.S. And they like a rim ring. Now, them shit is legendary right now.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Let's go ahead, Craig. What I was going to say is, Thank you. Believe it or not, we like to call this show, the rookies of the year, whatever. We try to play humble to everybody be forced, but God damn it, we're on fire. And names keep flying through,
Starting point is 00:05:02 and I don't know, it's not enough time, it's whatever. All I know is the second day loss was mentioned the whole room was like, yes. Hell yeah. It was not even a discussion. It was like, oh, no, we've got to happen. And that's not really happening for, everybody. You guys, I don't even know how to describe it to you. You know, you guys are probably
Starting point is 00:05:25 not really older than me, but you came in the game before me. So I look up to you guys. Like, you guys paid the way for all of us. Like, y'all beyond royalty, you're actually the first nice guys I haven't listened to. Everybody else was NWA, killer shit, fuck your bombs, this, this, that. I remember selling drugs playing potholes in my lawn. And I'm a, buddy, buddy, buddy. And so it's an honor for us to have you guys because that's what this show is all about. You know, the reason why we got involved
Starting point is 00:05:59 with the podcast, because he was like, people ain't telling the shit, right? And then you got invalid people. Trying to make valid points. No, no, like, who are you? Like, trying to critique. Anyway, I'm not going to do that. Listen, De La So, bro.
Starting point is 00:06:13 It's a fucking honor and a half to have you guys on the show, man. We truly appreciate you. Truly, we love y'all, me. I know we love you, too, but I've just got to, I got to explain it to you on a, there's different explanations. You guys are on a different level of explanation. I'm going to go somewhere, it's sad, but I'm going to go, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:34 our brother passed away. Right? So we all know, we all know that when we die, there should be an outpour of love, right? I'm talking to my wife all the time. I say, yo, a fad you die. skip break. Is anybody who ain't never big a mark,
Starting point is 00:06:53 they're finally going to be like, I'm a big him up. Like, let's say the truth about this guy, right? But your man died, and the outporn was legendary. And did it surprise you that he got so much of an outporn because even me,
Starting point is 00:07:09 my shit was like teared up. My message, like I watched people who don't big people up, big him and y'all up on another level. Was that surprising? For me, I wouldn't say it was surprising. I mean, we've been blessed from the beginning to travel all over the world. So we know, and we're humble enough to see the effect we've had gracefully enough on people.
Starting point is 00:07:34 It was just a blessing. And I feel like a lot of people, they were rooting for us. They was like, yo, man, y'all was going through your situation with the label and all that. And now y'all got your masters and da-da-da-da. and right for the finish line. We lost them. So I just think, like, it was that. Everyone was already in with us from that context.
Starting point is 00:07:54 And so it was like, damn, y'all got so close. For the underdog kind of. Yeah. It was definitely overwhelming to see everyone we came up with, everyone that just in the industry come out and it had that same effect. You know what I mean? It wasn't fake.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Yeah, one of the most outpouring of sincere love that I had seen in the industry myself. You know, you guys are respect. You know, when you're a man of respect, when you lived on this earth, traveled everywhere you were, and you guys are just men of respect, you are who you are, you trailblazers, you make whatever music you want to make. And then finally, there's a moment that, unfortunately,
Starting point is 00:08:39 it's a sad moment, but it's a time where you go, Yo, let's say what we think about these guys. Let's let them know. That's how I felt from the outside. And I know you was dealing with your brother. You know, that's blurry. You know what I'm saying? Sean C here, big up Sean C.
Starting point is 00:08:56 No, that's true. He was with me when Big Pun Pass. And that whole shit was a blur. You know, no matter who's calling you or showing you love or whatever, you're like, this is crazy. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But that was beautiful to see.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Jada, you got shit. I'm kicking it, man. Cabin in the sky. New Allen. No doubt, brother. Executive produced by Pete Rock. Coming out on Mass. Appeal, part of the Legend series, some incredible features on there.
Starting point is 00:09:25 What was it like just making this album, especially, you know, but Dave and I bear? You know, how did it feel? What was the mistake? I wasn't, you know, for dudes that I don't understand, making an album, show him a little bit of the process and, you know, the feelings of this project. Well, it's like some of the music we had
Starting point is 00:09:45 because originally we was supposed to do this album called Premium Solo in the Rocks with Pete and Prine. Oh, wow. So it just kind of, for whatever reason, just never really got off. This never happened. But we had stuff in the can, some from Pete, a little bit from Prine.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Peter from Massapil and Nas, they came to us. And it was like, yo, man, we want y'all to be a part of this legend series. We would love for y'all to do this, but y'all got to have this album. anybody's share. So I was like, yo, let's, you know, let's do it. So we saw what we already had kind of in the can.
Starting point is 00:10:18 The thing is that we had stuff from Dave, from other producers that we work with, Super Dave West. We have some from Jake 1, the rock cocaine flow on the grinded album, stuff like that. So we felt like, you know what? We can't just allow it to just be Pete and bring. We need to add in.
Starting point is 00:10:35 So we don't have to now take Dave's verses off and add it to some other made-up shit. We didn't want to do that. It's the hard shit. Yeah. Yeah, man, but Dave, he was with me. Like, seriously, when he was making this shit, he was right there with me. You know, and I heard him with me.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Like, Dave would always be like, your mercy, man. What you wrote is dope, but you could put more that bullshit on it. Like, he would say, like, you know, put that personality. And I kept him in my ear like that when I'm in the booth. And I was like, I can hit it harder. And Sean C would be there. And then you were like, nah, that was a good take. I'm going to, nah, nah, I could do it better because I just heard Dave telling me now,
Starting point is 00:11:10 I'll do it again and stuff like that. And I mean, like, just picking choices for different styles and for the album, like, I felt like Dave was right there while I was right. Fuck, you know what I'm saying? And, I mean, usually when he was physically here, we did a lot of that where me and Dave didn't have to be together. Like, we just so in sync.
Starting point is 00:11:31 And Dave was just such an ill nigger where, like, I would come in and be saying my rhyme and he'll just put himself under the pressure, listening to me in the booth, and he'll just bang your shit out right there. and then connect shit. So the process was just like, believe it or not,
Starting point is 00:11:45 for me, it wasn't hard. It was just like I need, I just knew that I was on one. Like, I had to prove like we can do this shit. We're going to do it for Dave, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:54 and get it right, you know, so that's how it was for me. Like, I don't know if niggas seen that, that outsider's movie back in the day where the Matt Dillon niggas like,
Starting point is 00:12:01 yo, we got to do this for Johnny. I was like that for Dave. Like, we got to do this shit for Dave. So I would just want it like that. Nah, concur, man.
Starting point is 00:12:08 For real, like, It needed to have its presence. You know, I think the record is therapeutic for everybody. It's closure for a lot of us. And you can feel them throughout the record. The whole Cabin of the Sky idea, to me,
Starting point is 00:12:24 it's like he working on the record from up there. Right. You know? Yeah. Is there a name for, like, these albums when somebody passed? How do you say, pot? A costume, right? I hate when they chop shit up.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Yeah. They get a freestyle from a fucking... Well, he said to do. Somebody... I added to the ones he had instead of this. That way, they'd be jinks all positing people. Like, I'm gonna just keep it real. I'd never heard Biggie say a whack verse in my life.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And they started playing with them. They had like Biggie Christmas Eve. They niggas was just pulling out shit from victory verses and shit. They was just pimping that shit on another level where I was just like, yo, this shit ain't. Like, Big Winner did this. You know? And it's hard because, you know, the fans
Starting point is 00:13:10 They want anything. They want to hear this shit. They want to hear what you got. Stash. I mean, somebody who did it great. Primo and Guru, their last album, they had dropped together the gangstar. That shit, I felt like Guru was here.
Starting point is 00:13:24 I don't know if it came out five years ago or something. Yeah. What I'm saying with my beat. But it is in. Mark deep album top three hours. But I'm a question. We got. Clips, we got
Starting point is 00:13:39 Cardi B, she definitely put some shit out the park. Yeah. And we got more deep. I listen more deep every day. That more deep album is really that shit. Yeah, yeah. You know, it gave me go, but that. Yeah, yeah, that's a good example of them. It's quality for us always of a quantity,
Starting point is 00:13:56 you know. But that's in your whole life. We tried our best to do it like, you know what I'm saying? We've always felt like, you know, we could marry ourselves to the right track. That's how me and Dave always approach. Right circumstance, we could do it. Like, I mean, crazy enough, we never even
Starting point is 00:14:11 got to do one with y'all, but we was always like, yo, we got to do joints. We got to do one with the locks, like. Because we would have, like, married the right shit, you know, not just to do it. And then you'd be like, yo, I got us on with the locks, but the shit is it bullshit. That ain't us.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Like, when you got a thing like that. You guys don't work with Chaka, come on. The thing I love most about Chalk and something I tried to be throughout my whole career, first of all, y'all got a lot of hits. Thank you. Don't get that.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Catalog out of this work. Catalog is out of this world. Number two is none of them sound the same. I love that. You know, I don't like to duplicate or recycle his. Somebody dead ass told me once I'm in the studio, like, I should do lean forward. Lean back. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Yo, I'm telling you. That's a flat. You guys are a flag, digger. Whoa. I'm trying to tell you, this is. what they do. They run with the same sauce. This is what they do.
Starting point is 00:15:13 They run with the same sort. They run with the same energy trying to duplicate the last hit. That's not stopping your face. No, that's stuff in your feet. No, they told me to do. Why, part two, how, when.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Yes. So, leave it alone. Yes. Yes. When I go through your catalog, nothing sound to say. I love that. As a creative, I love that
Starting point is 00:15:41 because I'm like, all right, they're not chasing the same shit, same style. I got to take it back to Native Tongue, right? Yeah. How did that come about? Elevahara. No, you ran the era. There's just no way around it.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Y'all was the most fire shit. Smoking with all of y'all. Who exactly was in Native Tongue? Who came up with, you know, we should all rock with each other. That's crucial to him. Pop. Yeah, one day...
Starting point is 00:16:09 It's missing right now, Raj. It's missing. It is missing. One day, I rolled up on, at Africa's crib. Africa was staying out in, um... What was that, Bay Ridge? Yeah. Shout to the jungle, brother.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Yeah, man. And, um... Tip was already there. I was selling a lot of crack to the Jungle Brothers, but gag, yeah, guy, guy, boy. Nah, I'm just a family show. Okay. Nah, because I remember me on the plot, listening to all that shit. You know, like, it was that time.
Starting point is 00:16:37 So, yeah, I rule up to Ave's crib. And Tip was like, yo, Ave, tell him what we was just talking about. I was like, what up? And he was like, yo, man, we got such a vibe together. You know, when we make music, why don't we put our name on the one name, we call it native tongues? And I was like, I'm with it. Like, that sounds crazy.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Because he was like, yeah, like we talk kind of like our language is the same. We like, we have this native kinship. And I was like, I'm with it. I was like, yo, I'll go. about to tell my name is, they'll go back to, and that's what it was. Like, the tribe.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Best thing that never happened. Yeah, like, I went to him. I was like, and Dave, and they was like, yo, we with it.
Starting point is 00:17:16 So we all just connected from that standpoint on. La was already coming around. Latifah was just already coming around getting signed with the Tommy boy. She would just come hang out with us in Long Island. And, um, like she was like,
Starting point is 00:17:28 her sister and became like a mother because she was so maternal and she could throw joints. Like she was just like, so like, we was like, yo, La got to be down with this. And so that was it right. there, like, and then people that start getting
Starting point is 00:17:39 at it all. Money came. Yeah, Africa was like Money. And it was like never a question. It was like, AF knows music. If Africa's saying, like, we're going to put Money down and she's down. No, Money is dead nice. I think she should have been bigger than she did and she got.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Like, Mone was dead nice. She was killing shit. Yeah. She definitely, I don't know what happened to where she should have come out with her own hits and projects and stuff like that, because We definitely, as fans, is waiting for Only Love. No.
Starting point is 00:18:11 You know, the Jungle Brothers, man. Oh, those much. That was, they even had the, uh, Girl, La House. Yeah, man. You were in my hut, now. That's why I always say that. That's when he was doing, in New York. You was doing track dates.
Starting point is 00:18:25 You just run up to Latin quarters. You do one song. You didn't jet up to, like, somewhere in Jersey, do another song, both to the Bronx. You wasn't the only one doing that, brother. That was the Jitlin circuit. That was New York's. City, Chickland, Chitland Circuit. There you go.
Starting point is 00:18:39 I do Yonkers. I do white planes, and I do the fever in the Bronx. And I made 1,200 that day. Mawfucking boys didn't pay shit. Y'all... That's real, though. What? Flojo was number one. I was getting $500 a show.
Starting point is 00:18:54 I was going, Fed Bill, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia. One day. Yeah. Well, wanted. Even when the shit was crazy. Now, you know, we made it through the starvation hell. Right? No doubt.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Because that was, I don't give a fault. How I seen, and I don't want to quote me because I'm sure he's coming up here, but, you know, my I do L.O. KooJ., I heard him one time, I don't know if it's true. This might be, you got a fat check. Don't do that. It might be a flag.
Starting point is 00:19:24 But I heard him say he was doing, like, arenas at his prime for like 15,000. But he was the headliner of the whole, like, Madison's great. The money just wasn't there. No, I was in big like that. I mean, ticket sales was like, Ten dollars. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Shit like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right now you see the young boy NBA, he did a half a million fans. I'm bonfuckers is pay. You got to pay. Yeah, because you figure. I'm going to sneak in to Monica and Brandy.
Starting point is 00:19:51 I told him already, you, I'm sneaking in this shit. No, I'm telling you, I'm sneaking in this shit. I told my wife. Whoever's coming, I'm sneaking in. Yo, it's Fat Joe. Let me, like, do you see niggas in the back door? I'm sneaking in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:04 I'm going in. I'm like, yo, so up as three of us. Like, I'm doing that. I don't even want to play with people with the tickets and shit like that. It's must see. I got to go to Brandy, Monica. I'm sneaking in. I told my whole family, yo, look, if I will be close because I'm sneaking in.
Starting point is 00:20:20 We don't actually have tickets. We're going to sneak in. Nah, them tickets is real. I just got my wife, like, tickets to that show. And then she realized that she had double book because she got to do something with my daughter and take her someplace. And I'm like, yo, you got to figure that. that out because tickets is real
Starting point is 00:20:38 like you gotta go through that show. Don't see the ticket pricing it's red line into. It's like the red line sure. It's for certain people who can't go. That's why they make it a certain price. That's like you go to a restaurant and you'll see no black and Spanish people in there. It's just the
Starting point is 00:20:54 price. Yeah, man. You look around, you be like this. You're a fucking clam. It's $150. You're like, yo niggas ain't fucking this shit. My head. I'm going down the block. Like, they ain't fucking with this.
Starting point is 00:21:09 I'll tell you. That's always been a gimmick. I know that Maryland. Yeah, there's always Maryland. They're the only... Yeah. No, but I'm telling you, that's how I get down. They outpriced you.
Starting point is 00:21:21 So it'd be so much. It'd be so expensive that you'd be like, yo, fucking, I'm going over here. You guys, man, let me tell you something, man. I was so excited. I was like a kid on Christmas today coming over here because I got Daylai's soul here, man.
Starting point is 00:21:36 I remember looking. that video music box and seeing y'all in the classrooms and seeing y'all and I was just like these guys are super legends Q-tips, one of my best friends Q-Tip. I don't know if you know, right? Sure. I, he's not going to know. No, no, I'm
Starting point is 00:21:51 just saying because you know, everybody got best friends. That they don't know. No, everybody got best friends. You know, me and Tip, we got a serious relationship for all these years. People don't know. He might actually be my weirdest friend relationship.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Because Q-Tip don't fuck with nobody, bro. You fuck with Joe Krat. Yo, Joe, what's up? Yo, me and him, like, we really friends. Q-Tip is like, you know, you get him when you get him. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He'd come out when he want to come out.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Mm-hmm. You know, what's that relationship with Jha and Fife, rest of peace, Fife dog? What was that like, you know, coming up in the game? Because I feel like that was the same time coming up with Tribe. Yeah, we all was like-minded brothers, man, we loved each other, even up to the very day, even fight patch, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Fife was coming out on the road with us.
Starting point is 00:22:45 You know, he was our secret weapon when we was doing certain shows, like rock the bells or whatever. We got Fife or we got biz, you know what I mean? So, you know, I mean, we was raised together in this shit, man. Yeah. You know, we stuck together, you know, good and bad. That's our, bro. Music, no music.
Starting point is 00:23:04 We're family, man. Me and this dude and Tip, like we'd be in a chat every day usually talking. Like, now, like, we would send records. We'll be having battles in the chat. Tip would set it off. I'll throw something like, ah, maybe you don't remember this one. And Mace me sitting on the sidelines all so he jump in. Like, we bug out all the time, man.
Starting point is 00:23:25 That's just, that's, that's, that's a real fucking studio in this house. Yes, yeah. We have battery studios. A million-dollar fucking battery studio. He has bad in his house. Not, no disrespect, not D block, not this. This nigger has. No, no, I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Listen, no, no, I'm not this in your studio. What I'm saying is, you know, listen, I'm not saying that. This show has been needed. This show has been needed. No, no. Niggas is the need, nigga. You know, listen to one say, nah, no, no, listen.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Listen, I'm not, I'm not going to just listen to me. Me and Luch, I love y'all. Worship y'all. Don't do that. What I'm trying to say... We ain't got an SSL, boy. So you say to, you know, then y'all, you got this shit. He got the hair factory in his fucking house is what.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Like, you might as well just sign in the schedule. Yeah, he's not... You go in that shit. You're in the hair factory. He's not in the closet. Like, he don't do... You go in his fucking refrigerator and pull out of die coat. When you go downstairs, you're in a real studio.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Indeed. I can't believe that. I never seen nobody have that in their house. Nobody. Right? Not even like a Scott Swish. He got Demi Hendricks. Swiss as Bubble Hill
Starting point is 00:24:38 at a real studio. He had the real shit. Yeah, that was the houses from, he got off Eddie Murphy where they did party all the time. That was a real story. I believe that. Anything with Swiss,
Starting point is 00:24:50 he got the Batman house. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So you tip those on that L.O. Cool J song with Ross. He was like, yo, what you got for me, Joe? I'm not. I'm trying to get you on.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I did the song. But he forced me to do it right there. Come on, Joe. Just to talk that shit, man. I'd say, yo, first you asked me to come and hear some records, now I got to be on the, you know, it's what my idol, but I mean, like, he put me on the spot. Man, shout out to.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Now, that's our brother, man. He's on the new album. He's on this drum. We got called Day and a Son. So, yeah, like. I want to talk about that. The features. Go ahead, though.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Let me hear. Who's on the feature? Nas, black thought. Mm-hmm. Killing Likes and we're thinking, kill him, Mike. What the fuck? Yeah, though. It's a crazy lineup for a long time.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Yeah, though. It's really good. Talking about bars. That came out with the, if you're pulling out. The METRA. Yeah, if y'all pull out there. The METRA. Their chilies of nice guys.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Oh. Every one of them came out. Mm-hmm. Black toy. Yep. Pommin. Common, yeah. Naz.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Naz's been spitting lately. No, no, no, no. No. No. What? What you want me to say? Yeah, I'm sorry, dog. You got to get that one.
Starting point is 00:26:07 You got to get that. No. No, guys. Let me face, send to y'all. Nobody's a bigger Noss fan than Fat Joe. Bill Maddock, my favorite album ever. I've actually credited him with most of my success from me studying him. But in this legend series, he found that flow.
Starting point is 00:26:29 where he just kill him with the shit with Big Al the shit everything he's just killing you know what I'm saying even them records that won the Grammy
Starting point is 00:26:36 or whatever it was still like a new Nause flow it wasn't that yeah he's just been like going crazy on these songs
Starting point is 00:26:45 with this legend series right here so you got all these features I mean nobody gave you a hard time everybody just came through no no you know we've never had a problem
Starting point is 00:26:54 with asking we felt we'll be right for a certain track you know I mean because we always had the mantra of like, yo, all you could do is say is no, like, say no.
Starting point is 00:27:03 All right, on to the next, you know what I'm saying? We've done that with certain people. We're like, yo, I'm right, David Byrne from talking heads. Let's ask. All I can do is say is no. And he said yes. It's like, all right, well. So that's how I was all the process.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Yeah. Would I say yes? You think wouldn't say no. Yeah. And right versa. Now, there's people for you as long as your people. Yeah, it's be those, those niggies, and they freeze. Like, you'd be like, yo, can you get an arm?
Starting point is 00:27:28 them niggas act like they turn the stone like if you can't see them and shit and they're like all right all right I ain't going to lie I ain't going to lie I chased Maxwell for about 10 albums I finally gave up he told me yeah 10 times we never showed up yeah he's the one guy
Starting point is 00:27:44 never showed up a fadjo and I love him I love Maxwell but he's one of the guys who avoided me but you know I used to have you ever have to do that like I mean like I wouldn't normally go this far all the time though. I diss people all the time.
Starting point is 00:28:00 For not coming through. Nah, it's just sometimes I don't want to do it. Like sometimes, you know, I say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then turn it around. I'm tired, man, this shit, 40 degrees. The heat ain't really working. I ain't coming out the crib. Fuck that.
Starting point is 00:28:16 No, you. Hey, yo, business, what's crazy like that business? Be like, yo, I'm right around a corner. I'm right. And then they're going to be in Maryland. Yo. Yo, biz. Yo!
Starting point is 00:28:25 Yo! Yo! Yo, let me say Bismarkey did my favorite hip-hop song ever. My favorite hip-hop song ever is The Vapers. The story of my life, you know, I was a bum, fucked up projects. They used to laugh
Starting point is 00:28:41 at me. I used to tell them. And I started coming around with the beam of the bends playing the Vaporin' I played. I'm surprised I'm not dead from being obnoxious. I played the Vapor so fucking loud. It is made. One mile per hour through my projects, like maybe 20 times a day.
Starting point is 00:29:00 I just drive around the project. We caught the baby. The baby. One mile per hour. That's my favorite song of all time. Oh, biz, man. What a beautiful love. Today's show is brought to you by a presenting sponsor Hard Rock Bet.
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Starting point is 00:35:27 Listen to the big take from Bloomberg News every weekday afternoon on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yo, Joe, you don't remember when I first met you, and we have been here in showbiz and AG, like Andre, the job. And we was at some video shoot, and I thought you was Andre the Giant. Because, you know, like, niggins didn't have video. They didn't have video. You know, niggins and no.
Starting point is 00:35:58 So I was like, yo, make sense. Yo, that's Andre the Giant. I went up to you saying, you was like, nah, Paz. I'm fat. I was like, oh, yeah. Hey. AG's one of my lyrical hero. But, like, did the C.A.G.
Starting point is 00:36:15 He was so slim. I was like, you don't look like a giant. You know, I used to stop A.G. That's hilarious. I used to stop A.G. all the time. And I used to force him to say this wine. He had this rhyme. Sally, so she sells down by the seat short.
Starting point is 00:36:29 How much work? Can the woodchuck? Every time. We pull up to a show and there's 10,000 people ready to go. Say, yo, A.G. Tell me, wrong. Tell me, I was just so fascinated. I couldn't believe that he even said this shit.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Like I used to arrest. They'll shout out to A.G. Yeah, my brother. But you thought I was Andre the John. How about a fat man, Scoop to this day, thought I was somebody and I never told him I wasn't the guy. Fat Man Scoop said that he saw me battle some guys. He died digging you with somebody else.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Yes. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Scoop. I love Scoop. God. Yo. Flack is right, though. This scoop, we like.
Starting point is 00:37:10 You know why you just said you thought I was Andre the Giant? Fat Man, the Scoop had a story like that. where he come up to me, yeah, I've seen you battle 10 guys, you had a bottle of scope. And I'd be like, you're like, that shit was dope. I mean, to the day he died, he told me this story. It was not me. I think I told you that one time, Shaw, see,
Starting point is 00:37:32 he always thought I was this guy that he met battling, like, 10 guys with a bottle of, I guess his shit was like, like, Listerine, spit it out, like some shit. And he would be like, yo, man, that was the illest shit ever. I ain't know how to tell them your school. It ain't me. Like, I'm... 30 years.
Starting point is 00:37:53 For 30 years, I ain't know how to tell them it wasn't me. And that's the story you tell everyone while you standing right next to him. And you can't... You can't do nothing. Rest of peace, fat man, school. We lost a lot of good ones. Yeah, man. And that's another thing.
Starting point is 00:38:08 We come in of age. Not that we got to die. You know, he's saying, China making shit make you live 150 years. I don't want that. I do. You don't want that? You don't want to live 150? Everybody you know is going to be bent.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Not if they all get the shit. They can't give it. It's impossible for anybody you know that lived over 150. It must as if everybody you know to even go to junk. Yo. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:38:36 I'm watching my own show. I'm watching my own show. Yo. I love y'all. You know, we try to do this shit different. You know, we're crazy. We fly. This shit is dope. And then he got his jokes. It's like,
Starting point is 00:38:55 yo, you get it on your way home. Yeah. Sometimes I go home, I watch. I say, yo, this thing could dis me, man. I didn't even catch that shit. That's why he's top five dead or alive. He's wicked as fuck. Nigger be saying shit. I don't catch it on the show. I watch, I say, oh, I got to get Jada.
Starting point is 00:39:13 I got to get him. This guy. He's too witty. I can't pick up on the spot. Let's talk about this for a minute because we all been through so shit with the label. I stayed down.
Starting point is 00:39:26 For in that battle, I know I was discouraging that time you're ready and say, fuck this shit. We can't win. So y'all to just stay firm and roll it out. What was that like for the... Because people were outside,
Starting point is 00:39:40 they don't know how to scale his tip force. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yo, it's wild. I mean, it's almost like I really don't want to talk No, no, no, you got to.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Because it's a little, no, it's legal. This is a alert, no, no, not messing up. This show here. This show is reaching anything. This show is science. This show is gems for the youth behind us to pick up on what we went through. It'll be a level of, like, you young, someone gives you this opportunity. You never had anything, so you really don't know, like, what they're giving you is, like, this little piece of bacon from a table that got fucking seven,
Starting point is 00:40:16 thousand pigs you can slaughter and have for your own. So when you start learning, all right, cool, you learn and you, hopefully, you negotiate and you have people in your corner and then, but then you then realize that the nigga who was negotiating for you, he's down with that minute.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Maybe that type of stuff, you start learning and you're standing. And it's on the job training. Yeah. Like any other. Learning on the whip. Yeah. So as we've learned, you know, throughout the process I start to learn like everybody's cutting the deal, the deal is happening based on the value, not what we actually have.
Starting point is 00:40:51 So everybody wants this deal to close so they could get it, they get they cut. So you get advised to do things that if you was advised a certain way, you might say, well, maybe I don't want to take the publishing deal. I may want to keep my publishing and y'all keep that money. The way they describe it to you. Yeah, they describe it to you like, you almost got to take it or you're not going to. and say no, you're just not aware of what's that long term
Starting point is 00:41:20 you know? Yeah. So once you start to grow and learn what this whole thing is all about you have a lot more discernment and then you start to catch these things. You read the contract. You learn more things. Here it is. Tommy Boy, I mean, we was in an unprecedented situation
Starting point is 00:41:36 where if a label folded so did the bands too. The group is gone too. Yeah. We've been able to hold on and move on and do things and let alone do more partnerships. Why would I go back into an 89 deal?
Starting point is 00:41:51 Why would he even present me a deal like that? How about... It was already disrespectful to even present a deal like that. How about... I give him grace because that's what he knew,
Starting point is 00:42:04 that's what he learned. And that's what he... They tried to continue. Yeah. But you couldn't continue that with us. And I... I'm sorry. Yeah, I just want to say like,
Starting point is 00:42:13 yo, it's not even like so nefarious where it's like, someone is trying to do wrong by you. Like, they actually think they're doing right by you. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, man, like, you know, that's my nigger. You know, that's my nigger.
Starting point is 00:42:28 He'd come to my back door, but that's... I have a mentor. I have a mentor many years later. His name was rest of peace jail riding there. He was a billionaire. He was a billionaire. He passed away. But he always told me that everybody has to make money
Starting point is 00:42:45 in order for you to be successful. Everybody got to make money. Not work for you, not be beneath you, not be this. Everybody should be a business partner in the way. And since he taught me that, I've had no headaches. Everybody's happy. You pull up to my store, the nigger driving a bench truck with Rolex on. Everybody's happy.
Starting point is 00:43:05 And that's how you eliminate that. The problem is these guys, they take advantage of them. They're out there. No, what they do is, look, We can't bite the hand that feeds us. We should always salute the person who helped change our lives. Now, if they still fucking you 10 years later, 15 years later, so basically the way the game is they grab you young,
Starting point is 00:43:28 you feel, and they feel like they're doing you a favor. Yeah. If you're successful, as you're getting a little bit older, you're starting to learn the business. Right, but then don't get mad at me because I learned the business. No, but that's going to happen to everybody. Don't get mad at me because I learned my value. Because that's what's happening.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Still, what I'm trying to explain on your side, you're learning the business and they keep renegotiating after they're making tons of money for you to get back to where it originally should have been fair. So you're always behind. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:44:02 Yeah. And then these guys, they live in their extravagant lifestyles. They're fucking Malibu. They're noble on the water. They this and this and that. And they eaten off of, our pain
Starting point is 00:44:16 because our music is pain so we are here telling our story shit we went through and they're over here having the sweet life you understand
Starting point is 00:44:28 and refuse to see that yo maybe this is my number one guy maybe I should make it fair and even like I've never been like that Fat Joe has never been like that so Fat Joe if I have an artist recently I had an artist maybe two years ago last artist I dealt with right
Starting point is 00:44:44 young lady, I might have spent a million and a half out my pocket because I still think she should be a star. Right? But when she told me, yo, Joe, you know, you're too busy with podcasts and this and this and that, you know, I gave our papers in one second. I'm not the oppressor.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I never understood the guy who was like, yo, you can't go nowhere, you can't this and this and that. It's never been my style. Yeah. So it's pretty, you know, disgusting that you guys had to fight like that. You know what I'm saying? So to say, you have to throw
Starting point is 00:45:14 mountain on your back. Yeah, I mean, they at one point was trying to do what they need to do in terms of, look, I got this label back. I guess the intention all along was to have it acquired. So we were putting a wrench in it being acquired without
Starting point is 00:45:30 mess because we were arguing, but we was only trying to get what was fair. That's what we should have figured it out. No, no, not your fault. They should have figured it out. And to your thing, I just did a deal. Right? Don't want to brag about deals or whatever. And I'm going to tell you a story, right? I don't owe nobody no money.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Nobody. I don't own nobody no money. And if I owe you money, you've been paid. If not, I don't know about it. But I did this deal and they all made me sign, like Fat Joe, 2025 is a crackhead that when I do the deal, they automatically get their money. They can't even let Fat Joe write the check to them or do the wire to them personally. They want that letter. First off rip You know Play to connect But I signed that
Starting point is 00:46:19 I don't have a problem Oh you want to get paid No problem You want to get paid You want to get paid You want to get paid You guys You're deserving
Starting point is 00:46:25 You're deserving You're deserving You put in work For the deal But tell you the truth In the back You know My morals clause
Starting point is 00:46:32 Is fragile I felt a little Crackettish That you know me I ain't no bum I've been around 30 years I do business with everybody
Starting point is 00:46:40 But you want Your money off rip Like direct To consumer I was like, you know, I felt the little ways. You know what I'm saying? But it ain't nothing. But at the end of the day, they knew we want to sell this shit.
Starting point is 00:46:52 It's worth $100 million, $200 million, I give de la Solet shit and move on. Well, needless to say, Tommy Boyd sold the company to Reservoir Media, which they all bought Tommy Boyce problem. And the problem that was with us, they worked out fairly. Yeah, my bless, salute to them. I got jerked for my publishing. The man gave me $50,000. Told me, yo, you Latino like me, I'm going to take care of you, Jelly Bean, Benitez. The man never gave me a dollar on yet.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Yo, this guy. We heard this thing that ain't come up crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whenever the jerking story, I got a brother right now dealing with Jelly Bean, Benitez. God, wow. This fucking. Yeah. All right, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:47:46 I did a deal where I had to find every nickel I had under the table stuck with gum. Every, every nickel. Am I lying, Rich? We spent a year and a half brain-busting every, yo, it's LES straight? It's young lord straight? Is it like to do a deal with this guy sells his shit for 100 million this? With no accounting, no nothing.
Starting point is 00:48:10 I'm like, I'm like, how this man been jerking me? me for so long. And then he could sell the catalog, do all type of shit to just, they won't allow us to do. You understand what I'm saying? How did these people get, this is a delay.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I'm going to tell you. You gave me for so long, which is sound, it's a great. What the fuck? Holy moly, got it. He did sound effects, man. What did it do it?
Starting point is 00:48:46 He didn't give me a bed in this, bitch? He didn't give me a better. You know, you want to know what's crazy is. Oh, yeah. Yo, I'm laughing like this at my house. For real, I can't lie. I'm watching these niggins of the crib of laughing just like this. Yo, yo, what it is?
Starting point is 00:49:05 This. Oh, yo. Jada, I don't give a fuck. Jada, I don't give a fuck. great, man. I love york and grace, man. I'm trying to protect us.
Starting point is 00:49:16 This is about protection us. This is honest. This shit is real. They're already going to give a great. You give it. One time. One time I get into a lawsuit
Starting point is 00:49:28 with this guy. The people sued me had the nerve to think I'm cool with him. This guy jerked me for at least 12 to 15 million or something. He's a number one.
Starting point is 00:49:39 But he's nowhere to be. He's nowhere to be. I go online to the federal court because it's a lawsuit. And the man said, he bought this toy standing behind me. He says, hey, Joe. I look at this dude.
Starting point is 00:49:52 I said, you said hi to me. Some of these guys are spineless where they don't even care. No, they don't. They're robbing you. They don't care. They'll look at you like, yo, this shit crazy.
Starting point is 00:50:06 But the moral to the story is, you know, one day, this, this, this, Anyway, I can't even see. Finally, I got my shit back 15 years later, whatever. But, you know, one day I'm in a restaurant and they tell me, that's jelly beans kids.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Oh, not the kids. Not the kids, back. Don't hurt the kids. Don't hurt the kids. I leave it at that. The devil in me. We're sitting there eating looking like,
Starting point is 00:50:40 I'm knowing that my kids sacrificed for those kids looking like Bippy Longstocked and they're up here in some billion-dollar restaurant this, this, that. And they're like, yeah, those are kids. I'm like, I had to really find God and seek the kingdom. And that's the spot.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Seek the kingdom, big. I seek the kingdom on that one. And no, I'm not threatened nobody. I had nothing to do with that. But I'm just saying, like, you got to be very careful out here in these streets. Yeah, you do it. Head up.
Starting point is 00:51:10 It'll come back to you at some point, yeah. Yeah, it comes back soon or later, you think a motherfucker, I think I'm watching the series on Murdoch, the lawyer from him, he killed this family. You don't know about Murdoch? Murdof. Murdof and fucking, you better watch it on Hulu, yo, this guy was a scumbag, Sean.
Starting point is 00:51:30 I mean, like, you never, he was a lawyer. Oh, but listen, the man was representing a man in a wheelchair, never walk again. He witnessed shit for 800,000, never. pay him. He represented ladies that died and their family's blind now and this and all of them lawsuits.
Starting point is 00:51:47 He kept the bread. 800 millions. At the end of the day when they come to him, this guy's fried. This guy tried to kill his family for his shirt. And I do think he's walking around the prison now like
Starting point is 00:52:02 some people just as cold-blooded. They don't give a fuck. They don't. That's nuts Are we going to get a cabin in the sky tour? I mean, we would love to I mean, you know One big show or something
Starting point is 00:52:18 Oh, definitely, definitely Because we just I think we could pull it off Without question I mean, we're blessed to always have shows Like this shows usually book months And months ahead of time They had a release
Starting point is 00:52:28 The actual day of the release We got a show in Vegas Yeah, yeah, we're going to be a festival out there But yeah man That can definitely happen You know We should do a tour With groups.
Starting point is 00:52:40 You know we always do. You know, we always do. You know, sorry Joe. It's always been solo acts going out on the road. You say sorry, Joe, because you're not a, you know, I got love for everyone. Well, as you bringing out DRTC, we could do the group thing. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:52:57 I set you up for that. No, no, I'm with that. No, no, no. I'm with that. All right. Okay. I have never said no to D.R.T.C. They say we're making the album
Starting point is 00:53:09 I'm the first one in there Working and following suit You know, Lord Finesse is the captain of the shit We run behind him Whatever he says, you Joe, I need a hook here You just, just, we do what we do When it comes digging in the crates You know, it would be no fat Joe
Starting point is 00:53:24 It wasn't for them I don't give a fuck Where I'm at, how big I am How whatever Tell you the truth It's the only thing that I ever been involved with In hip hop that never been no fuck shit Well, our crew, we always loved each other.
Starting point is 00:53:37 We always supported each other. No, fuck shit. No, no doubt. You know what I'm saying? So that's like, you know what I mean? I would be down with that one million percent. That's a billion percent. Group tour.
Starting point is 00:53:49 With all groups. That'd be crazy. You've seen that. I've not seen that. I just love to seeing dudes who can, you know, regardless of the age or whatever, man, we know how to command a stage and do what they need to do. And all niggas sitting here know how to do that.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Like, I think, do we ever, like, let me ask you something, right? Because I thought about this the other day. Other than Jay-Z, shout out the Brock Nation, we in the building. Yeah. Other than Jay-Z, I even see Nas work, right? Could we ever just say, yo, we don't, we don't want to tour? Like, it's been a long time since I know what comes on at 7 o'clock on ABC, what comes on the 8 o'clock on ABC, 9 o'clock on ABC or something.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Like, is there ever a time? Smokey Bobinson in them is 85. Patti LaBelle's 81. We did a show. Torrean. Yeah. We did a show. Recently.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Yeah, it was recently. Yeah. Oh, what was that? Yo, Rich, why you get up? What's your answer? Chicago. We can never retire? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:54:50 No. Where Nellie's from? St. Louis. St. Louis. Yeah, with St. Louis. Yeah, we did a show with Patty LaBelle and St. Louis over. I'm, like, on that Free Spirit shit, George Clinton. You know, like, I can rock until it's over.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Like, Rolling Stones and Autumn. I love just going to our show age out. We got generations there. Black, don't crack. Because when we rock, when we first started, we were like 18, and it were like 30 years old, 30-year-old people into, like, our music. You know what I'm saying? And 10 years old.
Starting point is 00:55:20 You know what I'm saying? 10 years old, like now, like when we be out of our shows, there's generations there, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm going to tell you what's crazy the other day. I went to Katz Deli, and I met a brother. He was like 70 years old. He was like, you all watch you grow up. For some reason, I ain't know him, and I'm good with it, right?
Starting point is 00:55:37 And the man starts showing me pictures of my uncle, Fayo that passed away, my aunt Barbara, this. So I knew he knew the fam. So he was like, yo, I was there, you know, I'm from Washington. I'm from this, this, this. It's crazy because I'm 55 now. He was like, ain't too many going to come up to you and tell you how they watch you grow up.
Starting point is 00:55:55 I watch you grow up. And I said, all right, man, thank you this. I call my aunt immediately. You know what I'm saying? I was called Diki Barbara. I was like, yo, I met this guy that. She was like, he'll come up to me to worry about it, this, because I didn't get his name.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Yeah. But it's crazy because I'm at the age now where people even gone on or the last thing they're thinking about is Fat Joe. You know, somebody 75 or something who watch me grow up if they're here. But are you lit, mate? We're not even talking. I'm not talking about that. What I'm saying is it's hard to find somebody watching grow up.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Yeah. Right. Now, it's kind of bugged out. And the- Bugging, man. Huh? I want to hear some music. You got a chance to hear it.
Starting point is 00:56:40 I'm ready. It's Dayla Sol in this motherfucker, man. Can we plug in and hear something exclusive? You got to play it loud, James. Yo, James, I bought your favorite guys to the show. You see it? Yeah, man. Snap.
Starting point is 00:56:54 I was like, you know, that ball-fucking won his poster signed of 89. He won everything. Oh, that's good. That's good. I'm with that. I thought about getting drunk recently. Word?
Starting point is 00:57:07 Thought about it? Yeah. You stop? I just don't drink, man. Yeah. Don't start. I don't drink, but I thought about
Starting point is 00:57:14 getting drunk recently. I said, yo, maybe I should get slammed. Let James open it. James looked. It's been a while since I've been high on the street. You know what I'm saying? There we go,
Starting point is 00:57:24 touch that shit. You know, and I used to get drunk and end up in people's cribs and shit like that. I don't give a fuck. When I'm drunk, you could gas me into anything. They'd be like, yo, I'm being a niggis' house parties.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Like, yo, fat, Joe. That's dangerous. Sitting up to me with a fur on, like, no, I'm telling you. It's not good for me. It's not safe to end up in the stranger's house drunk with a fair on. This is why I'm trying to tell you. Yo, that's just, on that, no, ace of spades. We're doing this for the cabin.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Great some friends. We're doing this for the cabin in the Sky Project. Right, cabin in the sky. Make sure you get in all platforms. Don't stream it. Buy it. You know what I mean? We're going to check out this joint
Starting point is 00:58:06 Run It Back. It's featuring our brother Nas. Woo! Naz did this thing on this. Produced my brother Super Dave West. Yeah, this is an ill one right here. Hey? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Man, shout out to everybody who produced on the album. Yo, yo, yo, yo. Report, report. Everyone report in. That's right. It's magic. It's magic like the three.
Starting point is 00:58:30 But, yo, don't ever get a misconstrued when you see us coming through with them date-old colors. Lyrically, we run it all day. So if you throw it to our list, we're going to a way. Two, D. Long Island. Long Island. Long Island. It's the boat for a team here to clean up the turf and the worth of the dream is the change, the regime.
Starting point is 00:58:56 The regime and the lead that we lay with the words that we spray, be the way that we teach. y'all to act. Run it back. With the palms with the dice and the songs that we slice, with the plate earned the weight and the height. And the horns with the price, where the men never mice when we're on the device of the mic. Never that.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Run it back. Put my rap on the line and the math are the signs that we make me the cake that we stack on my grind. I'm a one of a kind and the one from the vine of the grape where you heard I'm a cap. Man, it's the thing that we hang round our neck. Like a chain, it's the piece of the pain. At the least, it's the lane that my flow traveled down.
Starting point is 00:59:29 We're down in the sign with a rock cocaine to the brain on the track. Overdue with the new and you beg for the brew that we stirred and we heard that you don't have a clue how it's made. It's the boom to the bat like the fool and the pay that for a ride on the map. Hey, my nigga, run it back. We're the sons of the beat and we stay on our toes and our feet exposed to the car to the creek because our ears in the street and our minds and the stars. Man, y'all know who we all tucks the pack.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Run it back. That's what I'm talking about. What? Maybe. But we're going to take it on over to Queens to my brother's in the bridge who's about to run it back. Oh, man go Rayla. Hey, yo. They go jungle right there.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Hey, yo, everybody get back. Everybody look out. Look at the guard. Let the guard do. Let my brother do. Unsmackable. Half are you laughable. You won't be photographable.
Starting point is 01:00:20 If I have to run through half of your crew, I'm only trying to get smarter. Like five percent is in Parliament hauling, rip the bottom. Run it back. Not the bottom. Like the bottle of snake wine with a snake's still in it. We sip and see if it takes time to fill it. I'm speaking the buildings. Ghetto ten and Mr. Militants.
Starting point is 01:00:35 No suburbia privileges. Run it back. From a rap, there's no wonder that. Three's the magic number. Add me to that number, that's four. The fourth Beji, the Fork, Zizi, top member, the fourth Fuji, who meet? I fantasize musically when it's suiting you. It's wowsers, the 80s, 90s, and thousands.
Starting point is 01:00:49 How it was sick? How did it slip? Now it's just doji dot and scissor with most powerful hints. Leon Thomas Shibuzzi with the country rap. Only black artists on top of the charts. Something's wack Run it back Not only love and only black
Starting point is 01:01:00 Don't start with that The problem hatched Probably with nasty back In 99 in fact What's not surprised From getting diamond clacks He cries inside about it never He just runs it back
Starting point is 01:01:09 Yep Right Okay everyone I know your heartbeat Is running fast After running back So let's slow it down Right
Starting point is 01:01:18 Take a deep breath in Now Take a deep breath out Is that... What is that? Weed smoke, I'm smelling? Yeah, yeah. I need to be modern.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Anyway, let's prepare to take our mind to the next song. Salute. Salutory and salutations. And don't forget the vocalization. All right. That's right. That's, um... Matter of fact, that's a...
Starting point is 01:01:55 That's a... That's John Carlo Esposito on that. Like, he's, he's talking throughout the top of the album, so it's dope that we got in on the album. You know, you guys, especially, man. You got, you know, comic gave me. He was smoking some shit. What was the shit he was smoking?
Starting point is 01:02:10 Alessanto for me. Alessanto, you know, you guys got John Esposito on his shit. Come on, fuckers, me, awesome shit, right? This ain't that, man. This is the biggest shit, n'ig. game. Why would you even go to some chicken big nugget
Starting point is 01:02:29 spot? These niggas ain't fucking with us. You're wasting your time. You're going to go to the next podcast and come like, hey, what's your Zodiac sign? In 1950s, get the fuck out of here. Roof day shit.
Starting point is 01:02:45 The fuck out of you. You're wasting your time with them guys. They ain't got no moiety. No tracks. I know. It's business. Could I get my shit all, man? I know that. My brother. This is the fucking made me laugh when I watch the show. I'm talking that shit, but listen.
Starting point is 01:03:04 You love you, nigga. Yo, Sean, you know you come. Hey, yeah, uh, 93, you collab with, yo, shit the fuck. Oh, bro. Who are you? Are you valid? Are you laid? Let me go through your, if I go through De La Sol's track list,
Starting point is 01:03:23 I'm not even going to lie to you. I wouldn't have an argument with y'all. If y'all came with the De La Soul podcast, what can I say? I watched you me coming in the game. But some of these guys, we don't even know who the fuck they is. And they criticizing Tartier up. Well, I think Jay should have said this. Like, who are you?
Starting point is 01:03:41 Like, get the fuck out of here, right? But in anyway, this ain't that. Nah. That ain't this. It's cracking kiss, God damn it. Make some noise for De La Solet. Love y'all, B. Thank you for having this week.
Starting point is 01:03:59 You're happy. You're happy. You're back. Love y'all, though. Love y'all, love your brother. I love you back. It's an honor. You guys are beyond legends.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Your icon, there's legends. You guys are like, you gods, bro. You guys are unsouchable. You're on a different. You look at y'all the same way. I know, but you guys, you guys are different. You guys. You got to let us tell you what you are
Starting point is 01:04:25 You fucking legends You fucking gods You're lords We're just legends with the legs I hear you Dayla soul London leg That leg like that
Starting point is 01:04:35 In short by the Lloyds of London You got to get me back Huh You got two more times Peace y'all de la so Joe Please love See
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