Joe and Jada - Eladio Carrión on new album ‘Corsa,’ Puerto Rico, Latin rap & reggaeton’s American crossover, Boots Ennis vs. Xander Zayasa

Episode Date: July 7, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by Latin Grammy winner Eladio Carrión, one of the hottest artists in the Latin trap and reggaeton world. Eladio tells Joe and Jada about how American get boxed i...nto specific genres more than Latin artists, walking in Xander Zayas while Jada walked in Boots Ennis for their headlining boxing match, coming up in the game with Bad Bunny and Rauw Alejandro, his “Mbappe” collaboration with Future, and why his professional swimming career wasn’t the best idea for his bank account. Also, they have an insightful conversation on what constitutes a hit, Joe explains why he would have never made “Lean Back” if it weren’t for Missy Elliot, and the room cracks up as Joe misremembers who he lost to at the Grammys. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX! Merch is here! https://joeandjadashow.com/ All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:06 I had like lean back. This shit was number one, 47 weeks. They had freestyle and something. What was it trying to win? You know, the Grammys, let's listen. We love the Grammys. I want to win one this year, but I finally went. You got to get Joey right.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Yeah, they got to get me right. I got like two. I should have won that flat out should have won, like all the way up. Let's get it started. Huh? Let's get it started. Well, that was it. Yeah, that would have been in.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Nah, I don't know. Hold on. Hold on. I take the flag back. Yeah, yeah. What up, y'all? This is Joe Cracked the Dawn. You know who it is.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Oh, go ahead. You got some more A.K.A.s. Go ahead. Pardon me. Joe Cracked the Dawn, aka Jose Antonio Calita, Hannah. Hey, yeah, yeah. Manteca Jada.
Starting point is 00:03:12 What's up, man? You know who it is your boy, Jada? This is the Joe and Joe and Joe. the show, every show legendary, every show iconic. And we continue to crush him. When you think of today's guests, remember, I just told you every show legendary, every show iconic.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Those are the key words. When you think of today's guests, you think of a crossover problem, somebody who took that Latin trap lane and turned it into a highway. I think Kansas City roots, Puerto Rican hushel, punchlines in two languages.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Listen to that slow. Punchlines in two languages. A catalog, heavy enough to talk back to whoever. You know what I mean? You think multi-platinum plates. Latin Grammy weight and the flow so cold
Starting point is 00:04:20 to make your favorite rapper bundle up ladies and gentlemen give it up y'all got to see me, y'all. Y'all got to see me y'all. Hey, I'm gonna need a cut down use that for an intro or something. Y'all got some.
Starting point is 00:04:39 A, beau. Appreciate you, my brother. You know, welcome to the show, my brother. You start to do that. Appreciate that. How are you guys doing? Shit, normally I just get to the case, but the shoes you got on, right?
Starting point is 00:04:49 I'm trying to figure out. You wear that on a regular, like, you cool with shoes? I got my days for me, me, to be honest, I'm a very, I'm a very, I'm a very being in my house, chancletas, you know.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Chancletta, because I see you with the, with the tacos. I'm like, yo, this nigga, you just diddy bopped down the street with the tacos on. I'm like, I wear shoes.
Starting point is 00:05:13 under arrest, nigga, like if I'm locked up or... I gotta go to like an award shit or something. Church, you know, you're just chilling. I got it's uncomfortable. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's comfortable.
Starting point is 00:05:25 It's comfortable, too. Yo, Jada, you got sneakers on. I'm just saying, I'm at... I'm just trying to ask. To be honest, if I'm not wearing all these shoes, I'm always new balance stuff. That's 100%. Like every day, every day.
Starting point is 00:05:36 All right. I saw that. I saw you get big money with new balance. No, it's just that I love, too. You know, it's just... That's comfortable. It's comfortable. Yeah, it's comfortable.
Starting point is 00:05:44 It's comfortable. It's great. You know, it's time for my sneaker to come out. I think it's time for me to call. We've been on hold. So I think now I'm going to make the call and be like, yo, we got to drop that T.S. The red joint.
Starting point is 00:05:58 You know, we have always one nice moment. I think it's time. I think stop front. Give it to the people. Give it to them. Come on. I have always been very, very impressed by your skills. by your flows, you never do the same shit twice.
Starting point is 00:06:16 I appreciate. Your collaborations. Tell us about your upbringing. How'd you get into Latin rap? Do you consider a reggaetonero or Latin rap? Same shit? If we go by the, like, you know, technically, I don't do that many of sagittons.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Because to me, you're more like a rapper. Yeah, yeah. So you're like a Latin rapper. But like, more than just... The thing in, like, you know, Latino, like, on our side, I think, like, in the thing, like, American music, you guys get boxed in. Like, if he's a rapper, he can't do a dance hard every life.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Like, it's the very... Us, we have to do everything. Like, we have to do dance hall, Afro beat. We got to do trap. We got to do rap. We got to, like, it's, like, the fans are more open to hear what you have to offer, like, another app market.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Man, I'm very impressed by your music, brother. Appreciate it. You know, you know what you're... That was a great analogy. That was a great analogy, right? Yeah. But you know what's crazy? First of all, Joe and Jada
Starting point is 00:07:20 the number one show in the game. Come on, come on. And I don't give a fuck where you are. I'm home. I took the night off, right? First of all, I ain't want my wife to feel like I'm doing too much because it's San Jose. We were saying, San Jose.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Yeah. And then I get back, and I know the fight is on. So I'm like, man, should I pull up on? the fight. Like, you know, I might be doing too much. So I didn't want to get beef in the crib. I just do it on the movie theater. It chose peace. And I seen you
Starting point is 00:07:53 walking in Xander, the body, man, he's a tough guy. And then you're walking in boots. So every time I see you at some shit like that or I'm there, I feel like Joe and Jay does represent it. I don't know if I'm delusional about that. But when I see it,
Starting point is 00:08:09 I said, Dan, they can't escape us for nothing. This motherfucker. Or you, well, you walked in Zander, he walking boots. How do you know boots? And you could tell me how you know Zanda. I don't know. They reached out to me, and you just knew he was dead. Shout out to my man Harry, yo.
Starting point is 00:08:25 I always knew. I got an artist that's from his same part of Philly, Germant. My man, love time. I'm from Germany. You seen that shit. You know Philly is, you seen the comments? Because y'all like to look at comments, right? Oh, the old Philly.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Nah, that nigger's from here. He's on the block. over here. Don't play with me. You know what I'm saying? How do you know Xander like that? Man, I've known Zanda for a while, man. I've seen him, you know, grow as a fighter. You know, that's my brother. You know, every time I get a chance to walk out with them or see him fight live,
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Starting point is 00:09:14 The dog. He swagged out. He come in there on that bullshit. But, you know, he had, you know, he didn't have to fight that fight. You know, I guess he got the experience. As a true guy has ducked a horn. I think I would have ran away from the guy. I think I wouldn't have ducked them a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:09:30 I would have been like, nah, no, nah, not, not, let me go another weight class or something. Because the guy, the guy boots, guys like boots, they can't even get fights. They're so good. And people, like, you know, people was avoiding Pernel Whiteman. man, I think the sport needed that fight, too. It was an amazing fight. It was amazing. It was a great fight.
Starting point is 00:09:49 It was a good fight. It was a good fight of a year. If it would last a little bit long, it would have been a fight of a year, you know? Yeah, they got busy. They got busy. They got busy. They got busy.
Starting point is 00:09:57 They were really great. But both you guys had all people, and I said, oh, shit, Monday. I saw Jayden when I walked in the, what's it called the backstage. I said, oh, snap, we want to go to do the show on Monday. And I said, what's what? What's up?
Starting point is 00:10:13 Nah, that's hot, man. And, man, you nasty. My upbringing, right? I'm about my upbringing. Oh, yeah, I want to know. How do you get into Latin rap? Who was some of your inspirations? So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Spanish and it, because you definitely got English inspirations. Yeah, 100%. Because all you do is rap in Spanish, but your flows and everything. And what you talk about is really English rap shit. Yes, I was raised in the States, man. I got to Puerto Rico. I was like 10. My dad was in the military.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Like, I moved around. My whole family from New York, my parents from my grandma lived in everywhere. My grandma was in Red Hook. I got cousins. I got like 100 cousins over here. I got 12 uncles and aunts. But I moved down as a kid. I didn't know Spanish until I was like 10.
Starting point is 00:10:58 You know, there was time here or something there, but my dad retired from the Army. So like, he didn't have to do anything in the States anymore. He wanted to go back home. So I started with Puerto Rico, learn Spanish, you know, watching Hobelize, speaking, you know. God, no, man. Over there, one thing that's a default of Puerto Rico for the most part is it's America, but they don't speak English over there like they should. Oh, but you know, but not now. They're starting?
Starting point is 00:11:26 Yeah, yeah, all the schools, you know, like, it's not like before. Before it was like, I'd be like, yo, you don't. And you got a lot of, like, American people fighting in Puerto Rico, buy houses with her. So, you're like, you know, all the restaurants, establishments, you know, they require. you'd be by lingua now too. I'm certainly like when the reggae tone shit started. They offered me the biggest bag in the world,
Starting point is 00:11:49 Atlantic Records, for me to make a reggae tone album. I was trying to tell them I don't speak Spanish like that. So my shit is going to sound whack. It's just no way around it. It wasn't like I didn't want to do it. I don't know with the right producer at the moment. If you're going with Lunguiland Tunes,
Starting point is 00:12:06 tiny something like that. I knew the Lany Tunes and all on, but still my flow, My shit wouldn't have been, it wouldn't have been, it wouldn't. I think you would have made some shit. You could have made something shake. Annette. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Yeah. You could have been like the, you'd have been like the, you rap right at the end of the day, man. Like in Shagetton, I know a lot of rappers that they would do, they would wrap on top of, like a rap beats. And then they would just switch the beat out to reggaeton after. Yeah. That's what you see. Like these days, Marianto, you know, rap. It would be half reggaeton and half rap.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Don't not explain it too much because you're giving me ideas right now, my nigga. Like, stop. I'm already thinking like, oh, shit, I'm going to pull off a reggae too. You used to a lot of, you know, those after the father bees, a lot of times it would be half rap and half reggaeton. I used to be with Hector their father. Yeah, beast.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Before he was in church and all that. The man, the man had the crew out there. Real deal. And then went into the, he became a pastor. Yeah. So now he goes to jails and everything. And shout out to her father. I haven't seen him in a year.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I used to hang out with him in a point. He does not for the community now. At the prime. Like when they're like. That's the, that's one of my favorite rappers. She's, I went to Daegos wedding. I went to Daegos wedding.
Starting point is 00:13:31 And Daegos more like, well, Dego's the black. Yeah, like, he's from the black hood out there. You know, there's a whole black hood out there. Yeah, yeah. His son is named Harlem or some shit. Yeah, well, he was the Afro-Lah.
Starting point is 00:13:46 He was the first Afro-Latino, I think, who accepted it and said, y'all, an Afro-Latino. It was crazy because, like, if you consider the age, he started popping off, like, he, it wasn't at 24, 26. He was 30, like, high, you feel me? He was older. You want to know, that's crazy. I didn't notice that.
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Starting point is 00:15:21 If you listen to them lyrics and Nas was 22, 24 years old, the shit he was spitting on it, I rule the world. Like the youth, they really had something insane. You know, that's why I love the song you got with Zane. in the video. It's encouraging the kids, letting them know if you could dream about it as possible. Tell us about that and why it was important to you
Starting point is 00:15:45 to do like a motivational song like that. All right. So me, I'm very conscious that I got, you know, I got my song, my ignorant music, that it's just, you know, I do it thinking about the shows. My shows be like there's full-blown mash pits. It's very, like, very high energy. So I strategically do these songs.
Starting point is 00:16:03 prepared like Mbapé de Guadro Roli, do it happen. It's not saying it in that song. It's just a hype song It's a turn-knit. But me as an artist, you know, I do feel the responsibility, you know, to go dig a little bit deeper, you know.
Starting point is 00:16:19 You know, I got kids listening. I got people who don't want to be jumping in hospice who really want to sit down or they're driving to work trying to be going into 9 to 5. Like, what could I report to help them, you know, getting a better move to, you know, go to work.
Starting point is 00:16:35 What could I record to make this baseball player want to put this song in as, you know, is that bad? What can I do, like, to make these athletes, you know, get in the zone? Because I was like swimming. Like, I used music to, you know, to get into that, you know, that zone. And that's what I think about how I do music a lot of time. So I got songs like gladiador Guerrero. I think that's when I started popping off my music.
Starting point is 00:16:59 When I dropped a solo mixtape, it was just straight. progress music, you know, motivational music. And, like, there was a space in the genre and that music that people really didn't open up like that. So when I started doing that, like, it created this crazy, you know, cult fan-based.
Starting point is 00:17:19 People wanted to listen to music for other reasons, you know. I still do my ignorant shit, you know. I'm talking about my ignorant shit, but, like... Who else come up with... How long you've been signed, putting out music professionally? And who else was that batch that batch that came around the time?
Starting point is 00:17:33 time you was coming, that class. My class is the class Benito, Bad, Prao Alejandro. Who? Clow, Palo Alejandro. Oh, man, he was rocking, too. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:17:46 The thing is, it's cool to see all them cats, like, going crazy because Benito, they get him a lot of shit. He does like this. He does like this. A nigga is a superhero. Let me tell you some. This guy. This guy, boom, boom, pop.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Yo, listen, this guy, bad money. Let me tell you something, because it was, and there's no disrespect. to nobody because I love everybody. But it was, at that point it was a battle of Anuel Osuna, Jay Balvin,
Starting point is 00:18:16 everybody was putting out hits. I don't know what the fuck Bad Bunny did that made him a fucking Batman or some shit. That nigga threw the sign up on top of that building and that, no, they all had hits. They all were throwing on platinum shit. Everybody was big.
Starting point is 00:18:33 And that nigga just took off like a superhero. I don't... You know what helps a lot with him? Like, he can literally be in a studio solo and come out with the album. He produces all his first shit. He produces all your show. Oh, you mean his own beats? Yeah, like the dealers are all that he did those beats.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Like, you know, like... Wow. Yeah, he's like, musically, he's nice. And that's probably the big reason. His team is amazing. It's just really, really talented. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We having a debate last night.
Starting point is 00:19:01 We're going to dinner with a couple of friends. and they debating fuck it, Jay-Z. No, no, no. Slow my partner, right? They debating Jay-Z or Drake. And, you know, my man is like, yo, Drake been doing this for 20 years straight.
Starting point is 00:19:20 It's still got young kids. Love it. Hove come out with something. The older guys are going to love it. But what about the youth? It's a good debate. But it's hard to keep, you know, once you get this to a certain level
Starting point is 00:19:32 to keep on delivering. And beneath those plays, you know, what else could they do? Can I was in the Saucson joint and just went, boom, came to Puerto Rican and made that sound commercial. Like, constantly raising the bar is difficult at that level, you know. So that's very, that's hard. I wouldn't say just raising the bar. Raising the bar is something you got to do. So like him, he got this classics on.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Why? When he did that, that was to be Jada was raising the bar. I think the thing you hit on first was actually right. Right, because Rick Ross, I could have signed Rick Ross. DJ Callow was begging, yo, sign him, sign him, sign him, sign him, sign him when he had hustling, right? I honestly didn't think Rick Ross was going to have a long career because that was like, at the time, that sound was like what was going on at the time. I didn't think you think I thought Rick Ross was going to have 10 albums, one of the greatest rappers of all time. This is a hell, though.
Starting point is 00:20:33 It happens. And so you got to respect, guys. With me, with the artist, artists might come out with one hit, two hits, right? And then I'm just like, and then when they come out again and they come out with another hit,
Starting point is 00:20:46 another hit, and then they come out with another hit. You don't see that lot today. You don't see a lot. I'm like, they're trying to stay. Yeah. This ain't, this ain't. It's stop, my nigga. These motherfuckers want that long.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Who would you think has that, that juice, like nowadays and like modern rappers and, like, you know, a hip-hop right now. You asked me a funny question because I don't really know about you like that. Here in five years is still going to be. Drake is still going to be on fire.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Not, but not, apart from Drake. You don't want to him. He did his bed already, like the new, new cats. Coming up, I can't really, honestly tell you right now. Don. Who? Don't Tolliver.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I think he does really good at home. Grand Fires is fired. Like, if we're going that way. I really. I ranked artists. Is that crazy? You asked me a question and we can't even answer.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Could you answer it, kiss? Like, who's a young nigga that's gonna be on five? I base my journey on off of albums. Like, when I hear like my artist really like digging into albums and doing like good jobs.
Starting point is 00:21:47 I'm asking you a question. Why are you looking at me like I'm trying to? Listen it to it. We got to be able to say, Don's Jay Z, Y, Z, M&M. Right now we don't have that type of
Starting point is 00:21:58 selection or maybe I'm just old I don't know who the hottest young and why would you think why is the reason why can't you name other rappers they need to put quality out like you are absolutely right right now my money's on the old guys
Starting point is 00:22:11 my money's on me my money's on him my money's on French Montana my money's on TI his album is really hot and for some reason everybody step back they let the youth run with it
Starting point is 00:22:24 for like 10 years or whatever and then they're like okay these motherfuckers don't want to deliver classics then we got to come back out and deliver classes. But you think sometimes, maybe, I think sometimes, like, you know, the media puts out so much information that you think that's the only information that's out there.
Starting point is 00:22:42 And then you're like, let me back down before. I start, you know, but maybe that's not what's really happening. You feel me? Like, oh, this is the most hard, like popping hours right now, but maybe it's not happening. Maybe you're doing better. Like, you know, I feel like, you know, the media really, like, you know, you know what I do is.
Starting point is 00:23:00 You know what I do is I go off the energy. Right? So let me tell you, what's a hit? What do you think a hit is? I think a hit is something that you can see visibly in shows. That's the one thing you can't fake. You can't pay someone to go to your show. You can't even, I know people, I know people, artists that I wouldn't go to their shows even if they paid, you, feel me?
Starting point is 00:23:23 What do you think is a hit? Undeniable. When you hear it, it makes something. Something that you just know when you hear it, you feel it? I narrowed it down to a feeling. A feeling. That's what I just said. So if you, right now they play that, spend that shit, you're like, oh, shit, that's that shit.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Or if you heard Lean Back when it first came out, pan, pan, pan, and made you feel like a hit is actually a feeling. It's not just this style of music or this success, is if that record, if you feel like playing that shit over and over again, then that, that makes it a hit. Right? Yeah. But you know what's crazy too?
Starting point is 00:24:04 I think it was for y'all because like producing wise there's a lot of stuff that y'all did for the first time. So like when it's hard to now, we're just like recycling stuff that's already, it's very hard to really for producing stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:21 I don't want to do like new, new, new shit when like y'all've done so much or you, if you feel me? Yeah. Today's show is brought to you, by our friends and our presenting sponsor Hard Rock Bet, Florida Sportsbook. The world's biggest soccer tournament is here. You see the ratings?
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Starting point is 00:27:29 but to be a gymnast. There was something about gymnastics that was intoxicating to me. It's given me a belief that we all have one of those treasures inside of us. We just have to find it. Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone, it's the Jonas Brothers. If you haven't heard, our new podcast is called Hey Jonas. And this week, we're hanging out with someone we're really big fans of.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Millie Bobby Brown. That's right. A loving herself. We talk about her new movie, Anola Holmes 3, Family Life, and all the amazing things she has going on right now. This blew my mind when I saw this, Millie Bobby Brown. You have over 60 animals. First of all, how do you even keep track of everybody? And second, do you have favorites?
Starting point is 00:28:12 Who are they? And why? Yeah, I need to know about this. Okay. I don't know where the number's 60. I really got to figure that out. And I could actually have over 60. I just need to really know that number.
Starting point is 00:28:23 There have been plenty of sheep in my bed. And, yeah. It's a big bed. in the bed, literally sleeping in the bed, yeah. Plus, we find out what she really feels about Stranger Things Ending. Five seasons, almost 10 years of your life. I could have never have guessed it. I started when I was 10 years old.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Our conversation with Millie Bobby Brown is out now. Go check it out. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. My first guest is Paris Holtan, Shakira, Luke and Yerrin, Samira and Gracie. I'm so excited. On the bouncy bed. You have surprises? Many surprises.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Welcome to Sweet 305 where the group chat comes to life. What a f***. It's like a way to say like, Oh, my God, hello, my friend, Oh, my brother. What a . Look, I've ever had to be
Starting point is 00:29:13 with nobody. Except with my my kids, my son I'm a man. Oof Yeah, punch!
Starting point is 00:29:23 That's incredible, yeah, the telenovela. You're the only person I know that loves a Yellow Starburst. It's limited. There's a man who's a little that you like you say,
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Starting point is 00:29:45 or wherever you get your podcasts. You know, an artist that I really studied I would have never leaned back
Starting point is 00:29:54 if it wasn't from Missy right? Yeah. I studied them because you like, is that your bitch
Starting point is 00:29:59 when it and then, and then, is that your bitch? Is that your bitch when it and then and then what? And I was like noticing because when I was coming up, I don't know if he knew,
Starting point is 00:30:10 but when I was coming up, I was figuring it out. So, you know, my first song was called Flojo. But I didn't know I already had the hit formula, but I hit it by mistake. So it's like, you got a flow, Joe, you got a guy, you got to flow, Joe. So it's the repetitiveness. So with Lean Back, I purposely, when I was making that hook, I said, lean back. lean back, lean back because I said, all right, I'm going to say,
Starting point is 00:30:36 make it rain, make it rain, make it rain so that you can, I didn't know that coming up in the game. But I learned that for Missy, because Missy would always make hooks like that that people could sing a little kid to sing or whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:51 She always reinvented herself. We beat y'all to a lot of shit because we heard Eminem for the first time. Hi, my name is. Niggas was like, y'all. Like, what don't, fuck is that? That shit was like the aliens came down,
Starting point is 00:31:06 like Wimby and shit. Or, you know, him, Jay, you know, it was nothing like him and the Lox when they were young, you know, the Lox, you did da da da da,
Starting point is 00:31:17 that. Like, it was like, that shit was, so we got the experience a lot of things firsthand. And the music, I think people feel for music more because it was way more,
Starting point is 00:31:28 it was not accessible like now. Like, you have to literally go, get, they do a little, mixtape or go get the You have to stand online in the show I was never for tape
Starting point is 00:31:36 I'm 94 so I was in the tape era there but like the CDO JZ dropped the album on 9-11 bro and niggas went and bought the album in physical when the buildings came down like you know how hard is that for somebody say oh shit they blew the buildings up
Starting point is 00:31:53 yo let's go by the JZ album yeah that's crazy that's crazy that's crazy nuts you went and bought the album huh you bought it on 9-11 I was in the house or in the island of everything I was in Alaska man
Starting point is 00:32:06 You know two-time a fella You went aboard it You was in Alaska I remember the exact Because my dad was in the army So you know That means You know
Starting point is 00:32:15 So like I remember seeing They're saying dad They're gonna send dad They're gonna send dad But you know That's very very very horrible Man that's that
Starting point is 00:32:24 I remember the exact same moment That's You know the city came back My man Full Flex Rest of peace Up True story.
Starting point is 00:32:33 You know, now I say, you know, I'm like the forest gun to hip hop. I've been everywhere you could think of. Forrest Gump of hip hop. I've been everywhere you could think of. I was there. What's the most craziest place you went on stage? You said, shit, how the fuck am I here? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Oh, the last thing that. He did show that. Yeah, but I got to say, I got to say Africa. Like, there's shows I did in Africa that if there was social media today, It would break a record. Like, it was like, as far as I can see, human beings, nigga, I mean, the buildings, the roofs, the floors, the windows,
Starting point is 00:33:12 the fucking soccer, what is that? The football where you kick the feet, the field go through, niggas is on that. Niggas on the light. It's just out of control, my nigga. Like, I mean, like, where you're just like, yo, this shit is unbelievable and you're ripping it down.
Starting point is 00:33:30 I would say Africa. Africa, my most legendary, it was no Instagram and none of that. So it's like, you know, for one time,
Starting point is 00:33:40 I would pretty much live in Africa for like two years, meaning over here. So what happens is... You stayed there a lot? You stayed in Africa. I've been down to go to. But what happened is
Starting point is 00:33:52 you could go to Ecuadorian, they speak nothing. Oh, I spent. You know, I got for the show day when I just started doing... To go, it's beautiful, and they all. all speak Spanish.
Starting point is 00:34:02 The whole Africa, the whole country. When you meet the girl, is Maria de Sman and Lesita in the middle of Africa. Like, that's their names. You know, Minter, and they're playing sasa and shit.
Starting point is 00:34:18 It's the craziest shit you ever see. I used to go there. You sit out over there. I used to go over there. Grouponich will be performing me, this, that, Tito Jerez, Jose Alberto Canario and Fat Joe. the rapper. That shit was lit every
Starting point is 00:34:32 New Year's. Yeah, fine. But the point is, I've been to some shit. You know what I'm saying? It was really, really, really, really. I went one time. I thought nobody was there. I went to Tanzania. That's the furthest you could go. The plane got to take a break.
Starting point is 00:34:48 The plane got to take a break, my nigga. No. The plane lanes. Like 18-out, niggit, 18 hours in that shit of laying in the smack in the middle. You could be in Sudan. You don't know where the... That shit pits black.
Starting point is 00:35:04 And they start throwing... They put the gas in that bitch. And they ain't going to another five. That's the furthest place I ever been. Right? So I go just to describe the whole shit. We get out. They got a bunch of trucks for us.
Starting point is 00:35:18 We get the gas, the airport. And they race it. They're racing like a president. It's here. Some shit, right? So some guys go in the work. It's like six in the morning. The sun's coming up.
Starting point is 00:35:30 And they almost hit him. So he backs up, fuck. And he sees me, he's like, yo, fat Joe, what's something? That's where I knew I was famous. Yeah. When I went that fucking ball away, and the first nigga at six in the morning
Starting point is 00:35:42 almost got hit with the car. It's like, yo, Joey crack, oh, shit. I say, oh, shit, I'm famous. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm all the way to fuck. I don't know me? And so that night I went to do this show. It was so quiet.
Starting point is 00:35:57 My nigga. I came out the back of the thing, and I'm going around the, stadium and he was like nobody. It was quiet and shit. And I made one turn. It might have been 300,000. Maybe like,
Starting point is 00:36:08 ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. But you couldn't see the, I was scared. I thought I had a no-show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know where I fuck? It was terrible for me was Columbia. Columbia? I went to Columbia one time and my wife's Colombian.
Starting point is 00:36:24 And, you know, I got an ill story with that one. But, yo, the promoter one, Yo, listen, let me tell you something. The shows was not full, my nigga. They rent the stadiums, and it was like 500 people, 1,000 people, and the shit was 20-seateroeners. That nigger was tight, my man.
Starting point is 00:36:44 He was like, because he paid me a lot of money, and I went out there, and it didn't work. I don't know if he ain't promoted right, or Fat Joe ain't big in Colombia. Land America is Argentina. The place where they accept, like the most America is Argentina and Chile because they got,
Starting point is 00:37:03 they do Lola Paluzas. Like, they're already, you know, educated and, you know, in Mexico, too. The other day I went to, I had a show of Mexico, I think it was like $16,000. But next to us was like a 50,000 arena.
Starting point is 00:37:18 And it was, who was seen it was a chemical romance? Two days in a row, 50,000, bah, Mexico. Mexico, fuck with hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Yeah, I see what I said. Yeah, they're very rap. Yeah, I went to Columbia. It was crazy because, you know, my family over there, they probably think of like I'm a big rap star. When they showed up to the show, the big one was just probably like,
Starting point is 00:37:43 yo, what the fuck happened? The saxophone started to. Yeah. Yeah, they was looking like, yo, this thing ain't lit. I'm like, Primo! Nah, but it's shit wasn't rock it, me. I was like, so the promoter?
Starting point is 00:37:58 I see him, he's screaming on the work and so I walk in, I'm like, you know, because he spent a lot of money. I said, yo, Papa, what's going to say, yo, yo, Papa, what's going to do you know what happened? That's what I want to put a bathe
Starting point is 00:38:14 with gancho, and ponento in his cullo. Like, this nigger was telling me he wants to put a bat up my ass with spikes and fucking whip my into my... I would have been gone right there. Monday.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Monday. You had the money. You had the money already? He paid me the bag. The hotel's top of that line, nigga, this rich carter and the whole floor. Arena. This nigga was tight.
Starting point is 00:38:42 He took a hell like millions. And that nigga was talking crazy. Like stupid crazy. Like, yo, nigga, I killed you. I took this. I said, you said, you finish. You said, yeah. I said, man, you should go to Hollywood
Starting point is 00:38:54 and write scripts. Yeah. Because if you think I just, I give a fuck about what you saying. You got me fucked up. That didn't look at me. He said, huh? I said, man, are you getting?
Starting point is 00:39:05 Are you damn give a fuck about what you're saying, nigga? It is what it is. The craziest. Let me finish the story. The next day, we go to, like, Medell Yink. My daughter. Where was it on Bogota? Yeah, Bogota.
Starting point is 00:39:20 But the next show was Meta Yink. All right. My daughter, this is like Paco. That's all I'm going to say It's like power The TV show My daughter goes to school With a girl
Starting point is 00:39:31 They're best friends Her father says Come to my house In Colombia When you're over there We in Miami This guy wears suits Every day, nice guys
Starting point is 00:39:40 I got four cops That's my security Taking me around Colombia They stop And they go What's the address I say you know 39 32
Starting point is 00:39:54 You know I have a guy's Mistake Joe. I said, no, no, no. No, no. That's my friend up there. No, no, no. There's no way you're going to the house, mate.
Starting point is 00:40:06 The nigger was darned of all dons of Columbia. We went up there. He had million dollar horses, Basafinos, niggas. They was doing shows, horses. The niggas just making a suit so big they had ladies doing the sanchotra. Like, you know, them niggas,
Starting point is 00:40:22 the cops stood at the bottom. They were scared to go up. The police were scared to go to the house. So I'll come back. I come back to the hotel, the same nigga, get that ball out and let me down. Oh, yeah, five. You knickers in the lobby. I said, what are you?
Starting point is 00:40:41 To connoce don't host. Garillon. I'm like, family's my son. I'm sorry for what I said. I'm sorry. I don't mean it, five. I don't mean it. I said, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:40:56 What happened? No, no, no. Sardi. I'm sorry. this nigga by mistake. He just my daughter and his daughter's he happened to be that. You never know who you...
Starting point is 00:41:06 Yo, we in Miami. This guy's a bit... But anyway, he's a great guy. I'm just saying, that happened in Columbia. Let me tell you something I've seen the other day that made me cry, it made me tear,
Starting point is 00:41:20 but at the same time, I was really happy for him. But it made me sad, too. I'm going to tell you what. Dito Nyevins is one of the legends of all legends. Yeah, of course. He's like a Stevie Wonder.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Right, Paddy's a doubt. Just the way to explain it to you. And he showed up with Alex and Station in the middle of La Pella and started, you saw that last week? He started performing in the middle of a lot. He's doing a song. I know he does a show.
Starting point is 00:41:45 I didn't see it, he does a shows. And the whole hood. Like Stevie Wonder decided to pull up on Harlem, pull the fucking piano out and start. And going crazy. Happy, bird. Like, that's what happened in Puerto Rico. Tito Nieves
Starting point is 00:41:59 the Patti LaBelle, Stevie Wonder, whatever, went to the middle of the hood and ripped it down. It never been seen before. No South ever in history. So I'm looking, because he was like a mentor to me. I love Tito,
Starting point is 00:42:15 and I'm looking, it made me feel like, for one, we better appreciate Tito Nevis. For two is, man, it can no, right?
Starting point is 00:42:25 And so I'm like, it scared me at the same time I was happy. I was like, wow. Like, you know, one day we're going to get a phone call that the legends of all legends passed away. No, no, God forbid.
Starting point is 00:42:38 God forbid. No, not him. Yeah, yeah. We want to, yeah. No, we want everybody. Yeah, yeah, that's true. We're in there. It may you.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Hepti. Uh, there's a lot of old legends out, man. It's going to happen, man. It's a lot of old legends out. You know, because you think about, even in English, we think about certain legends that still here that we take for. Granted that if they passed away, you'd be like, yo. Yeah, 100%, 100%.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Now, you feel getting the Latin Grammy. Man, that was, it was a blessing, but you know, the funny thing is, like, okay, I was not only for the Grammy, right for Benito orchalana. I was how to develop. Develop, produce that? Yeah, develop, develop. Mark Anthony's nephew.
Starting point is 00:43:21 That's my little man, fath. He's a, his clothes are. Great time we've been locked in. You've seen, is that his line? I wear it. We're ready, one, two, three. Yes. He's flush.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Shout out to develop. That's my family and his sister. So we made the song. We was nominated for the Grammy, but I had twins that same week. So in my mind, I forgot about the Grammys. So I had the twins, I think,
Starting point is 00:43:45 well, we were, um, they were two months in ICU because they were born prematurely. So I was just every day going to the hospital, every day waking up going to hospital. Yeah, working out. Real life. How about that?
Starting point is 00:43:58 Real life. So I wake up. up and I just see my Instagram flooding and my phone flooded and say, you got a Grammy. I said, oh boy, I got a Grammy. Boom. And like, they had asked me if I wanted to go you know, to the Grammys. I might have, you know.
Starting point is 00:44:12 But like I said, no, I can't leave my mom and my girl with the 22, you know, I was like, it was even like a thought in my head. And in my mind's like, I've been out of many a few times. Like, that ain't going going to happen. And boom. But I didn't, I wouldn't. You wish you had that moment? No, no. No, no. Never.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Never. Never. Never. It was my Grammy. babies. Like, you know, I wouldn't have been in other. I got nominated for like six, seven Grammys, man. I never won shit, man. But I don't mean anything. And I go with that bitch like a revolving door. Yeah, you lost already.
Starting point is 00:44:42 I ain't. You like the outfit, my nigga, I'm out of here. It's hard, too. Like, you know, when you got that, you guys competing against MJ. You know, you're feeling like, it's, it's, it's.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Sometimes we got nominated, we was MJ. And you were shocked that we lost, I lost to like the black hot bees before they had the white girl. Like this shit was just unjustful. You know what? Flag.
Starting point is 00:45:14 That's a flag. What was it? What was the song? I had like lean back. This shit was number one 47 weeks. The niggas came the niggas, they had freestyles and something. They beat us. What was it? What was it? You know the Grammys. Let's listen. We love the Grammys.
Starting point is 00:45:29 I want to win one this year, but I finally win. Give me an honorary. Something, a button, nigga, like, give me an I won the Grammy button. Give me a gold button or something, because, yo, my man, my sister's number. Like, even if you're going to give me an honorary or not. You got to get him right.
Starting point is 00:45:46 You got to get Joey right. Yeah, they got to get me right. They just got to give me an honorary, a makeup call. I got like two. I should have won that flat out should have won. Like, all the way up. Let's get it started. Huh?
Starting point is 00:45:58 Let's get a star. Let's get it started. Well, that was... That would have been in. Nah, that shit is nobody. Hold on. Hold on. I take the...
Starting point is 00:46:06 I take the flag, man. Nah, that shit gets started. Disney movies still. I remember I went to see my man in jail. That shit played on the radio and everything. That shit played on 10-10 wins. I was driving up to state. Let's get it started.
Starting point is 00:46:24 I put the Spanish. They said, let's get it started. That's true. That's true. That's when you know that shit. You know what, rest of peace, I finally got to see the Michael Jackson move.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Fucking phenomenal. You're going to love it. Was it good? Was it good? Oh, man, you're going to love it. That's incredible. If you love Michael, you're going to love this. I'll be scared to watch Michael still.
Starting point is 00:46:46 So I'll be, you know, they'd be trying to try. Yeah, that's it. That's, that's it. You know, you know, Clive Davis, rest in peace. It's few news today. The minute you die, they start trying to throw shit on you. I had to tell somebody who's a real, a real dude, not just a real dude. We call him the Lovys.
Starting point is 00:47:09 The nickname is the Lovys. And super of the realist dude. And we just talk to shit. And he starts, hey, you hear what they're trying to say about Clive Davis and this and now? I said, yo, listen, love you. And this guy is the dawn. I said, Love him. If you wasn't talking like that, why he's,
Starting point is 00:47:29 He was alive. Let's not talk about him like that now. And he caught himself so fast because he's the realest of the way. He said, yo, you know what, Joe? You're right. He said, I'm, I just, I went for the hype. I said, nah, B, because, you know, we're MJ, same shit. Anybody could do.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Let me tell you something. You made it for them. And I don't want to give people ideas, but I'll tell you something. You can go with a little bag to anybody's hood. I could go right now. let's just say Nikki Jam. I can go to Boston where he was raised and pay 10 crackheads that lived up there
Starting point is 00:48:04 for them to talk shit about Nikki Jam, his mother, his father, his this, and make a documentary. That's anywhere you go, brother, you go to my projects, you throw him $2 and shit a pack of chicken wings. They'd be like, fuck fat Joe, he was gay, his mother's a lesbian.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't go about what these people say. You gotta love the person for what You love a... What happened? Honorary flags. Yeah. Jeez, man.
Starting point is 00:48:33 God damn, man. My point is, they say bad shit, but you'll love the movie. If it sounds like in good, you know, like, you know... You're going to love the Michael Jackson movie. It was really great. His nephew really played a hell of a role.
Starting point is 00:48:48 It was really inspiration. It was really, really dope. You know, I fuck with it. You ever see Michael Jackson concert? No. No, I'd rather seen it live. I never met Michael Jackson. Like, I probably pee on myself
Starting point is 00:48:59 if I saw Michael Jackson real fucking life. I tell you something else. Huh? I'd have to be something else. Like, I got an MJ concert back in the day. Fucking concert. MJ. And anyway, you know, I sampled him.
Starting point is 00:49:13 I did a song dedicated to my mother. He said, free. He cleared the sample. Same day. They was like, yo, Michael Jackson said he's a fan. Cleared the shit. And one day, the Maria sample I used. I couldn't.
Starting point is 00:49:25 You can't fucking believe for free. That's crazy. Dr. Drey, Queen Latifah, Michael Jackson, I know they all rich. And recently, the Biggie Estate, I sampled them and they was like, yo, your money no good, fat, Joe.
Starting point is 00:49:42 I'm about the samples and still shoot. No, I'm not alone if they're going to give it to you. I'll joke. I'll joke. That's honorario. You know what I'm saying, Lalia? You might got to pay. You might have to pay.
Starting point is 00:49:51 That's fine. That's far. That's far. That's far. No, that was true. crazy, but Michael Jackson... MJ had a very much far. I was crying.
Starting point is 00:49:59 I watched this funeral. I was in Albania. I had a show in Albania. And my door must have been opened my hotel. I'm watching a funeral. I'm crying. All my friends looked at me. They thought, like, something...
Starting point is 00:50:13 Like, they never seen Joe Crack cry. So they're looking like, oh, shit. And I'm looking at MJ's feet. It was... That was like 9-11. When they said Michael Jackson died, I pulled the truck over. Right?
Starting point is 00:50:27 Almost near Yonkers. I'm up there. I was visiting my son, Ryan, up there by that. What's that shit? The sawgrass. Sawmill. So I'm up near there. They say that.
Starting point is 00:50:39 And when I pull over and I check every radio station, like, there's a radio station here. I call 10-10 wins that they only play the news. They don't play a record. They don't even play a melody. Dumb niggas have Michael Jackson on. The Italian radio. radio station, Michael, the Spanish, the theater,
Starting point is 00:50:58 that's the he's done. Every fucking radio thing. People didn't believe it at first. I didn't believe it. Then I start changing. Then I walk in a restaurant and eat dinner after, and they playing Michael Jackson in the tightest. It was like,
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Starting point is 00:51:57 I explore the mental health themes behind your favorite horror stories and what they can teach us about fear, resilience, and healing. It's self-care with a sinister twist. Listen to mental health is horrifying on the free IHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Hoda Kotby, host of the podcast, Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby. Okay, if you know me, you know this. I'm always searching for inspiration, for support, and useful tools to help maximize joy. So this podcast lets us uncover all of that together. We're going to have these meaningful, conversations with the world's most fascinating people. Like when actress Olivia Munn shared how she overcame fierce health challenges that she never saw coming. I've gone through breast cancer
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Starting point is 00:53:15 If you haven't heard, our new podcast is called Hey Jonas. And this week, we're hanging out with someone we're really big fans of. Millie Bobby Brown. That's right. Eleven herself. We talk about her new movie, Anola Holmes 3, Family Life, and all the amazing things she has going on right now. This blew my mind when I saw this, Millie Bobby Brown. Bobby Brown. You have over 60 animals. First of all, how do you even keep track of everybody?
Starting point is 00:53:37 And second, do you have favorites? Who are they? And why? Yeah, I need to know about this. Okay. I don't know where the number's 60. I really got to figure that out. And I could actually have over 60. I just need to really know that number. There have been plenty of sheep in my bed. It's a big bed. In the bed. Literally sleeping in the bed. Yeah. Plus, we find out what she really feels about Stranger Things ending. Five seasons, almost 10 years. of your life. I could have never have guessed it. I started when I was 10 years old. Our conversation with Millie Bobby Brown is out now.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Go check it out. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. My first guest is Harris Holton, Shakira, Luke and Yerrin, Samira and Gracie. I'm so excited. On the bouncy bed. You have surprises?
Starting point is 00:54:27 Many surprises. Welcome to Sweet 305, where the group chat comes to life. What a It's like a way to say like, oh, my God, oh, my friend, hello, hello, my brother.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Look, never I've ever had to with my kids, my children, I know I'm, oof,
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Starting point is 00:55:08 Podcast Network on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Talking about MJ, what did you guys like here listen to when you were? Y'all was growing up, you know, 16, 14, 15, J there. What was y'all? I was on Kane and K.R.S. R. Kim, L.O. Only, only rap?
Starting point is 00:55:33 No, no. Also, R&B. Luther. Mike Jackson Heidi LaBelle Stephanie Mills Whispers and wish the everything whatever my mom's listening to became
Starting point is 00:55:48 the first music that I ever heard so of course That's like I'm a host of Jose and then you know our prince's business I heard Spanish music
Starting point is 00:55:59 would never really enjoy Spanish music growing up unless it was like awesome No, not something, but still very, like, Oh, du Metsite, but who had he or the telephone, all that shit was ringing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:14 But I grew up in a whole black neighborhood. So it wasn't until I went to high school that I met a Spanish dude that lived in the all Puerto Rican neighbor. I didn't know they had the other side of it where I'm the one Spanish nigga running around. I met the one black dude running around the Spanish neighborhood. They're playing Sousa all over.
Starting point is 00:56:40 They got the food. I get over there. And they're like, get Popsie. Get Pasa. But a nigga black in there. Bobby, love, Pasa. I met the fat Joe of that neighborhood over there. I'm like, oh, shit, you got a black guy that talks that.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Y'all, for me and Papa, what you're talking about? And so that's where I learned Hector La Valle. Okay. And I learned all the Southside grades, the Willie Colones, all of them. That's where I learned salsa music because they was black. It was just, it was just.
Starting point is 00:57:09 And before that was, it was no Instagram, my nigger. So it was just like, I grew up in the black neighborhood and then I went to a place that I didn't even know exist where it's all Puerto Rican.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Yeah. So when I went there, they blasted salsa, my nigga, the salsa over there, it was no English over there. And when did you mean, when you mean pun?
Starting point is 00:57:29 Oh, punt, punt from my hood. That's that. As before you got to have, The Puerto Rican... No, no, I already had an album out already. I was finishing my second album.
Starting point is 00:57:39 You know what? I assembled the twins joined. I did a joint with... I think it was Apple or Spotify. Yeah. And they asked me to do a... And I try and I think... Yeah, we did something.
Starting point is 00:57:51 I think we did something with that. Did you go on Spanish with the dead in the middle of the little? Did you do that? No, I didn't do it. I didn't do it. I didn't do it. I didn't do it. I did that.
Starting point is 00:58:01 That's... You should have did that. Boy, me, hint it, me, into ploto, love good. You should have did that shit, right? 100%. Quit gaming to the biggest. My back, my back, my bad. How'd you meet Pund?
Starting point is 00:58:13 Well, Pund, he met me. So I was like a mini-stock. I was on the rise. Right? So if you looked at me, you was like, because it's floated you. The way I do is like, you got to show me. So it's like, I had one hit in the hood.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Then I'm finishing my second album. And so it was. like the final day that I was finishing my album. So I go in a bodega, I come out and some niggas a rap and pun is just big guy. He said, yo, yo, yo, let me rap. So I'm like,
Starting point is 00:58:46 fuck is this thing he gonna wrap about? And my God, he started the and da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And then he stops. And so he's going like a hundred miles from I think you driving a Ferrari. Sit a banana, banana, banana.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Snacks the moon out of the sky. and blow the sun away. Me and my niggas playing a whole boy, hardcore. I said, ah! I had Alexis 400. I opened the door so fast. And I said, sit down, please.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Sit in the car, get in the car, please. So I was there behind the scenes when I saw what Puff Daddy did with Biggie. So the fact that he was dumb nights, I knew I was going to make him like a Spanish Biggie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With Versacee on him and all that. So I already knew,
Starting point is 00:59:35 That it works. It's the guy. Nigger, this gonna be the one. So he sits in the car. You know, we drive and he tells me his life story in about 20 minutes. And then he was like, yo, let me too, because, you know, we already was a crew. So Terror Squad was already had a very street presence in the Bronx and all that. So he tells me, so he was a real nigger that never really had a crew.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Yeah. So when he's with me, he's like, yo, Teres Squad, they're going to be with me. like I tell them what to do. I said, nigger, they're going to love you. He said, wow.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Because he knew what that was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he was like, he was born into an army. Yeah. Like, they do whatever. He'd tell him to do. And he's crazy.
Starting point is 01:00:27 So he was like, yo, I'm going to have all these crazy niggas up under me. I was like, yeah, you're going to, you, and then we just became brothers right on the spy. It was really weird.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Because I come up from the streets where I never really trusted people. You know what I mean? Like a lot of people let me down. There's bad people in the streets. And the drug game, it was the worst of the worst of the worst of the worst. Most deceptive niggas, the most manipulating niggas, the biggest lies you ever seen in your life, the this, this. And then I got to be the guy who tells me his life story, vulnerable.
Starting point is 01:01:03 and trusts me from the first second I meet him because the type of shit he was telling me you don't tell another. Right? So I'm looking at him. I'm like, yo, this thing is he was like, yo, we're going to be brothers. You're going to be my big brother? I said, yeah, I'm going to be your big brother. And we was just tight. Like, it was inseparable.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Me and him, you know, inseparable. That's in peace, man. How did that feel of you when you was in Puerto Rico and you heard big pun for the first time? You knew he was Borikwa. You know what's crazy? Like me, since, okay, I was a big, you know, I was in the States my whole life, 10 years old, came to Puerto Rico, didn't know Spanish.
Starting point is 01:01:42 So I had to learn Spanish first. And then so when I was in Puerto Rico, I was going on vacation, I was seeing Etritito, we seen Yandel, Tego, Don, you know. But I didn't know about, you know, baby Latin gringo, Littiparako,
Starting point is 01:01:58 I had a big pun. I had to learn Spanish first, completely learning Spanish, and then I would go back and study, okay, oh, damn, Big Pun, okay, this, boom, boom. But as a kid, like, you know, that was different because he was popping, like, I was in the States, he was popping.
Starting point is 01:02:16 As for the Latino, like, you know, for a thing with him, like, I would have to, you know, go back and listen again, but Big Pun, man, like, he always was popping because he had commercial songs, he had songs that went. Like, I wasn't, I wasn't asked when you were here, you were here, Big Pun, you're feeling like, you know.
Starting point is 01:02:33 But knowing he was Puerto Rico, I was fired because we didn't have a lot of like Puerto Rican, Puerto Rican representation that would like, that would be so, you know, put the flag on my back, you know, and about it, you know, so it was, you know, him, it was, it was dope. You know, what's crazy is the first, I never forget the first term I, because I used to be scared to fly. Yeah, I got over there to me like two years ago. I was terrified.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Yeah. And so I never used to go to Puerto Rico. why we're selling double platinum. You been to World Eagle Jada? A bunch of times? A couple. DR? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Yeah, Latin America be there allowed to you over. Like, five, five, five. You've been to Latin America? Like, like, oh, Mexico. Argentina. I don't really, I never really did Latin America like that. They did Latin America like that. I mean?
Starting point is 01:03:25 I was experienced. You liked it over there? They show me love. Fuck. I get a lot. You know, what's up? Ye'a? Manteca Ye.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Huh? Montecayye? What do they say? Manteca Ye? Yeah, that nigger crazy right here. Let me say. Jada. Yada.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Yada. Yada. Yalachis. What they say? Yada. Yalakins. Yalakins. Yo,
Starting point is 01:03:50 let me ask you. So with the bodies in Puerto Rico, they never say fad. Puppie, give me fad Joe. Me diso. Oh, yeah, for he never me
Starting point is 01:03:59 say, fah, yo. No, yo, no, never my Bida. Oh, yes, Fah. Nuka me said Fad Joe. My name is Fah.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Yeah, Fah, Fah. Nobody ever says that joke. And be out of two. They be doing that too. They be acortando the things. Demme Fah. Deemel Fah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:19 That shit crazy, but with me, you know, I've seen, you know, I don't want to repeat myself, but I've seen like the bird. I remember I went to Orchie Beach one day. So every Sunday we would go to Orchie Beach and there was a guy standing there he had all these chains on.
Starting point is 01:04:41 And they was like, yo, that's the Puerto Rican rap. He's the nigger there. I was like, really? From Puerto Rico C. It was Vico C. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So Vecocci was in Orchee Beach with a bunch of chains on and he was that niggil. He was like a Jada kiss over there.
Starting point is 01:04:57 And over here. Yeah, Vigo, Vigo, Vigo, Vigo, Vigo. came over here. I seen them before I even rap. Like, I seen him out. He really helped that, you know, make Puerto Rican rap, you know, more worldwide. Yeah, Vigo's probably one of the first ones.
Starting point is 01:05:13 The original. I wasn't swimming. He was a swimmer before. Yeah, I was a pro-s swimmer. Bro. I was too good at the wrong sport and made no money. Swimming don't make no money.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Have you ever been to a swim meet in your life? I never heard of swimming. For free. Hosting a coach. I never heard of a swimmer hosting the club. Y'all own swimmer hosting. Only swimmer making breath. Michael Phelps got that.
Starting point is 01:05:37 He got that endorsement money. But it does, you know, help you be more disciplined, you know, being good. Like, swimming is a very tough sport. It requires, you know, physical mental. You train like seven hours a day probably. You're doing an hour. Puerto Rico's we always fucked up. We always chose the wrong shit.
Starting point is 01:05:58 So in the hood. The black kids are fucking playing ball. They get money. We play handball, my nigga. We can't get no money on handball. And Puerto Rico is like no able to. Our three sports is baseball, basketball, and boxing. You can make bread.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Even if you don't make that big, there's other leagues. Baseball, boxing, yeah. You can make money. But in New York, we play hamble. And niggas, they get no money in hamble. Mawfucker Dunkin get money. They dis-dad. They got the ruck.
Starting point is 01:06:30 That's funny. My dad lives your line. Handball sports. Yeah, my dad played that. Handball? Yeah, handball. Fucking loved it. Uncle Willie was a...
Starting point is 01:06:39 Everyone's a handball master. Yeah. Uncle Will, come on. Every time I talk about him, be some scandalous here. Uncle Will, I love you to death. Uncle Will was so good at handball. He would go to, like, Brooklyn, Queens,
Starting point is 01:06:52 and lose two games for like $50 and then play the nigger for $5. Or geez, wack. Uncle Will. Who is the same? I only seen him lose one time like a real he tried to win and the motherfucker some white dude out
Starting point is 01:07:08 in Queens beat him for the bat there was a bigger scammer than him every Saturday and Sunday we'd go Queens Brooklyn the Bronx he would go wherever they and they used to bet $500 in
Starting point is 01:07:24 handboy he used to bust their ass that was actually part of his job 500 bus handbox going out there to be a nigga to I bring back home 300 you know back in them days nobody believes me but you did
Starting point is 01:07:37 Comprita I was $2. If you went $150 shit like that I was big time I remember one time they almost fucked us up because they knew the fix was in lost two on purpose hit a nigga for like 300 he beat him so bad
Starting point is 01:07:50 Nick Joey run get the money run Joe go go go go go Yeah they chase the top of fuck I fuck you up dude get the bucket No I'm telling you That shit was crazy. Uncle Will was dead nice and our handball.
Starting point is 01:08:05 For all the real ones out there, we keep in the 1800. What's in the future for you, man? What's you working on? Man, we got, we just dropped, you know, Corsa. We dropped a different album. I got the trap song, got the rap songs. We got some freestyle joint that's going crazy right now. Freestyle? Yeah, freestyle. Like Judy Torres. Yeah, freestyle.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Smart. Yeah. I said, man, the last time I heard someone do that, like, a line. I've been like a good two years trying to get the perfect because to do that it's not the same thing
Starting point is 01:08:35 like a rap you know, you gotta really lock into it. Like with me, Anita. Okay. And Calid and sample
Starting point is 01:08:43 StevieB. Okay. And so we, I tried that. It's dope. But the freestyle is going on. It's one of like the most hardest songs
Starting point is 01:08:52 in the album. We got the deluxe coming soon. Netflix. Netflix. For Corsa. Blow dig for Corsa. Yo, why I think this is... 1800.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Why don't think he's got to get that. Yeah, he's got to get nasty. Yeah, y'all. Salo, salo. Salo. Brother. 1800. Corsa.
Starting point is 01:09:15 I'm going to drop a couple of more projects this year. That's your head. Ray Mercer. Boom in the chest. Ray Mercer. That's a hit. Boy. I'm going to draw a few more joints this year.
Starting point is 01:09:25 You know, I got some more, you know, American collabs. trying to keep on building that bridge, you know. I like that. Yeah, I think it's all about doing the correct collab. You know, you got collabs that work, collabs that don't. I love to join with you in future. Was it originally your song first thing that got there to remakes?
Starting point is 01:09:43 I dropped that first. It went crazy. That shit stupid. And I said, man, we got opportunities. My team said, yo, we got an opportunity to do some of the future. What you guys are in Bapa? That's one of the songs that. And it gave me.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Mbapet? What does that mean? Mbapapé. Kiliam, the saga, Mbapapé. You know, it's my neighbor. In Miami, he lives in my building. He's killing the middle. My guy.
Starting point is 01:10:03 He's fired. He lives in my building. My man, then, he'd be with his family. His wife is a good friend. He lives in my building. The African... He has a white wife with blue eyes. He got to go.
Starting point is 01:10:20 He wears a great. Not a girlfriend, not the one I'm talking about. The one I'm talking about the whole family. Maybe I'm blowing him up. Is that messy? I'm messy. The black dude. he got a hundred million followers.
Starting point is 01:10:31 He's killing them, niggins. Rich keeps saying, yo, your man, hit another one. He lives in my building, guys.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Okay. In Miami. I think it was in Mbapi. He didn't even France, probably. He's French. He's African French, yes.
Starting point is 01:10:52 No, he's so much. Yeah. Find the soccer person. player that lives in the one I'm talking about told me the old story he got kidnapped by his own brother in Africa.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Oh, he's talking about Bogba. Who? Porkba. You know he's my name. Okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lydga.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Polba. And they're killing them right now. No, but he's a beast. That's my guy. Yeah, Pokbaughbba's a beast. That's, that's... Fuck you talking about. He told me all they kidnapped.
Starting point is 01:11:26 He hooping, he hooping. He hooping. He hooping. kidnapped in Africa. They kidnapped him. His own brother, you heard, Kis?
Starting point is 01:11:34 Kidnap him. Yes. Shout out to Paul. Shout to Paul Banquil. Him, my man. That's a, that's a hoop. That's a hoopper.
Starting point is 01:11:42 That's a hoopper. He's a hooper, right? Yeah, you go crazy. That nigger, go crazy. You know, I don't know nothing about football or soccer. And all I know is every time I see him, everybody be bugging.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Like, yo, that nigg is the nigger. He's, I'm like, but I don't know. You know what I'm saying? So what you want me to do? So what you want me to do? He's just the nicest guy in the world. Oh, his nice, the nicest lady. The kids are beautiful, beautiful family.
Starting point is 01:12:05 I hung out with him a bunch of times. On the yacht, everything. I hung out with him. Damn, I don't even know his name. What's his name? Porkeba, Porkeba, Polba. Olba. Olba's a good guy.
Starting point is 01:12:20 What team he played for? I hope he didn't call him Mbbi on the vote. He's playing for French? Oh, no, he's not playing now? Well, why Rich is telling me Oh, so that's the wrong nigga The guy I'm talking about The guy I'm talking about still killing
Starting point is 01:12:37 Oh, he ain't killing them like that no more Something steroids or something And then now that he came back He ain't got the fluidity like that Wow But Rich is lying to me Rich keep telling me, your man is killing me. Show me a nigga making a kid.
Starting point is 01:13:01 He'd be lying to me, yo, your man's World Cup, killing them niggins right there. Maybe he's confused. He thought he saw him by the World Cup. Any team in the world. They don't got to be front row. It don't got to be nothing, but I need them, though. Okay, thank you, brother.
Starting point is 01:13:17 You need to go. It's right here, right? Yeah. You need an experience at least one game, but that's the story, but I got a jersey. I don't even know who's it for. You never been to a soccer game? I want to go to
Starting point is 01:13:28 Hey, just know there's no You're never going to see in a basket Maybe I can even say Not even like the next Not even not in basketball That's like with a real Like voice fans
Starting point is 01:13:40 Before it's crazy It's crazy Let me tell you where the only place on earth I experienced that Was the UM championship game Where half the crowd was the other College Half the crowd with that
Starting point is 01:13:55 Oh, but college, yeah, college. Crazy. No, no, the football. Card football, yeah, yeah. No, I'm in there. It was like a 70,000. You was with us that night. That shit was great.
Starting point is 01:14:06 I've never been to that. Like, where half the crowd is half the crowd. They're going for every. That shit, that was exciting. But that's our soccer game. You want an Argentina-Colombia game or one of those joints that's, you know, just remember, like, there's a lot of those people that, like,
Starting point is 01:14:22 that are here in the U.S. that haven't been back home in a while. So they'd be going there. I ain't going crazy. I bought a jersey. A fly fucking soccer. I don't know what team. And I bought some sneakers to match it.
Starting point is 01:14:36 And I'm going to wear that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you rock that shirt. I got to just wear it. You got to rock that fit. For the people one time. You know what I'm saying? World Cup, man. World Cup cracks.
Starting point is 01:14:45 All right, this time. Yo, check this out. This ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking kiss. God damn to give it up. And let you. Oh, yeah, bar.
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Starting point is 01:16:13 The knockout rounds are here. The U.S. won their group, and now every match is winner-go-home. I'm Tad Ramos. And I'm Tom Boger. On our podcast, Inside American Soccer, we'll talk about the real storylines. Discuss the tactics that actually decide matches. And give you the truth about the U.S. national team from inside the program. Whether you're a lifelong fan or the game.
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