Joe and Jada - Erick Sermon talks 'Dynamic Duos' album: Tupac, Biggie, Mobb Deep, Snoop & more

Episode Date: December 4, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by legendary rapper and producer Erick Sermon, and Sermon tells Joe and Jada about his illustrious hip hop career with EPMD alongside PMD and DJ Scratch, selling over 7...0 million records working with superstars like Jay-Z, Method Man, LL Cool J, and D'Angelo, the surprising way he met Redman, and his missed opportunities to get in early to sign future legends like Nas, The Notorious B.I.G., and Wu-Tang Clan. Sermon also talks about his upcoming project 'Dynamic Duos,' which features a star-studded lineup of paired legends like Tupac Shakur and Biggie Smalls; Prodigy and Havoc of Mobb Deep; Snoop Dogg and Nate Dogg; Method Man and Redman; and Billy Danze and Lil Fame of M.O.P. 5:30 - Erick Sermon co-signs Rewind It 10 10:00 - EPMD's albums, production & sampling 14:00 - Meeting Redman & missing out on signing Biggie, Nas & Wu-Tang 35:30 - Fat Joe wonders what would've happened if he'd moved to Atlanta 38:00 - Watching Nas & Jay-Z build billion-dollar empires 48:15 - Artists that bailed on features 53:30 - Eddie Murphy documentary 1:01:00 - Fat Joe's falling out with his lawyer & accountant 1:04:00 - Erick Sermon explains how Spotify & streaming platforms rob artists 1:10:00 - 'Dynamic Duos' & Pharrell's lawsuit 1:27:00 - Erick Sermon plays 3 tracks off 'Dynamic Duos' [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] Joe and Jada now on Patreon All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:05 The Joe and Jada show, every show legendary, every show iconic, and we never let you down. Today's guest, when you think of hip-hop, when you think of style, fashion, iconic, when you think of one of the first sonically voices that drove everybody crazy. When you think of camaraderie chemistry, when you think of production, when you think of a mentor that created a motherfucker conglomerate in the dynasty way back before people was even doing that kind of things with their labels and artists,
Starting point is 00:03:45 when you think of somebody that's underrated for those that must have been under a rock or just stupid. But, you know what I mean? He don't really get mad because he gets to the back. and the bags get to him. So what? When you think of underrated and you just think of one of the people,
Starting point is 00:04:01 one of the pillars in hip-hop that never fades away, he always finds a way to get to the vault. I know money. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for Eric Sherby. First of all, he likes that inch.
Starting point is 00:04:16 That's true. That intro was, Joe, that's not, it wasn't fucking with me. It wasn't you, though. He ain't fucking with me. What? Right?
Starting point is 00:04:24 No, you ain't, Yo, that's a great intro, but... You want to pull it back, and you want to try to top that, pause. First of all, I ain't get the memo or the camel. Y'all look like y'all joined MAGA and shit like that. Yeah, yeah, but that's some other camera. My motherfucking'all. Jam, JJ, that's the count.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Yo, stand on, kiss, kiss, give him the whole shit. Yeah, give him the whole shit. He looked like the Count of Monte Cristo. That's fantastic. That's it right there. In the hat. That's the Count of Monte Cristo. In the hat. This motherfucker looked like he killed the whole commuter.
Starting point is 00:04:55 to me right now. This thing is crazy. Yo, Eric Sherman, a genius. That's the words he missed out. You're a fucking genius. He didn't say the word genius. No. No.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I'm trying to tell you something. You know, you pride. His name is Eric Sherman. Not Sherman. That's how Joe Penel. What do you want me to do? You already threw the flag? That's a legit flag.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I just had to thought. I've been calling the Maryland Sherman, my whole. A lot of people, I take that one back. Okay. I take that back. There's a lot of people that that says that. I don't correct everybody that said. You took it back.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I took it back. I took it back. You paused. You grabbed it back. Rewarded. Eric Sherman. The word I got to use is genius ahead of his time. Musically, production-wise.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Pause blows my mind to this day when I listen to EPMD. I pause. Wait, boy. A boy. First. Damn, man. What anybody know that? You motherfuckers got this camouflage.
Starting point is 00:06:01 You want to shoot the plates up. Hold up. Hold up. Let me. The motherfucker's want to shoot the plates up, huh? Let me do a sidebar real quick. This is crazy. So Just for Men is my go-to, right?
Starting point is 00:06:11 Not no more. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, let me finish. Don't do that. Let me finish. Joey, I'm going to throw two flags. Listen, I didn't give her the shot, right? So I gave it a shot because the Just for Men wasn't. in CBS.
Starting point is 00:06:27 So I see your shit, right? I said, I don't know if Joey shit is correct. We number one. Okay. You know what? Get, Eric, guys. Go to slap, man, not letting you. So I get rewind, right?
Starting point is 00:06:42 I open up the box. And I'm like, oh, shit. He got two for the price of one in the year. So now, now, now, now you got me. So now I try it. And I'm like, yo, this shit is just as ill, but it lasts long. It's the rose voice of hair coloring. Listen, I'm here not to give me the plug, because you plugged all the time.
Starting point is 00:07:09 But to tell niggas, it's the truth. Oh, get it. You know, see, I'm never going to show my gray. Girls like it. They're like, yo, you can show. Nileys. They're liars. I'm never going to show you.
Starting point is 00:07:23 They want you off the market. Eric, they want you off the market. No. Off the time. This right here is the truth. Go back to the genius. No, but thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:07:34 It's the truth. It's the Rose Royce. It's double the product. And actually, our numbers is better than their numbers. Yeah, but what do you give? You know, I was a customer and it's the monia free.
Starting point is 00:07:46 So black and brown people will be breaking out. Most of them won't ever break out without product. Some other product makes people get bumps. Scott in the hospital. Oh, there's a fact. It never happened to me.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I've been painting my shit since I'm 20-something. And you come with a fucking shit, the remover. Yeah, you're the removal. Like, yo, you went all out. Yo, see, kiss them. Yes. He'll know about this part. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Kiss, you ain't there yet. You know what I feel like right now? I feel like Eddie Murphy. Fuck you, yes. Fuck you, too. Nah, it's the shit. It's the hottest shit smoking, man. Thank you, it's not hype.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Not hype. No, it's not hype for niggins. And, yeah, yeah, CBS, Alley, you know what I'm saying? Stop for Shop. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Let's change the subject again. Okay, yes, I was involved in selling over 70 million records.
Starting point is 00:08:39 That that means that when you count all the albums up that I was involved in, that ends up at that type of number. I just want to put that flex out there for a thing that's going to talk about that. Woo! But. Why do you think they're. people don't give you your props or you're not really appreciated like you should be. I think that, again, if we would have had this type of social media back then,
Starting point is 00:09:04 it would probably be more, you know, more talked about, you know, probably. You know, but we didn't have it. So people just heard records. It wasn't about the producer, about the artists. Nobody know who made shit. You know, until Pete Rock, we mixed. You knew about that, though, but as far as that action production. Listen, when me and Paris came in, we thought that,
Starting point is 00:09:23 everybody that we heard made their songs. I didn't know what the producer was. I just made the records because we had the rhyme on it. So we made the songs. Afterwards, we were like, y'all producers. We had no clue. We thought that everybody we heard made their records. That's damn.
Starting point is 00:09:41 I believe that because, you know, in Flojo, I did Flojo all three verses and hooks without a punch. I didn't know what a punch was. So everybody knows fat joke. And then when it come, everybody, you got a flow, Joe, they end the booth with me. You got a flow, Joe. Everybody knows set.
Starting point is 00:10:00 I didn't know what a punch was. Yeah, but you came from that. Me and Paris came from side by side in the mic like this. Wow. Like this. Wow. So we didn't have no. We didn't have enough.
Starting point is 00:10:15 We didn't have enough tracks. So we had to do that. When they got time to do the mixing, you would go up and down. if I was low or higher, whatever, but this is what we did. You know, like this. There was no other, nothing. You guys made some of the greatest music ever created. I remember me hustling, me in the streets, me taking.
Starting point is 00:10:35 They had these cabs called OJs. Right? So in the Bronx, you could rent the OJ for $25 an hour, right? So when you was hustling and you made enough money, if you ain't own shit yet, I'm talking about crack era, it wasn't a heroin, it wasn't big money. you went to OJ for four hours so a guy like Jada would just smoke his weed
Starting point is 00:10:58 chilling me I'm in the back I'm just saying that's why you guys you smoke with that he likes smoking me in that eight years up he likes smoking that shit he would have been in the OJ smoking his shit they would have been driving them around you listen to hip hop I'm going to Spanish Harlem
Starting point is 00:11:14 and see my girlfriend over there in 106 and first in the OJ the Beman shit but I'm pumping EPMD it's a difference You know, when you ain't got it, but you're just getting it, when you're selling a couple of cracks, making $300 and, you know what I'm saying? You ain't really got it, but you're sitting in the back of a beam where you stick in your face. You know how the dogs stick the face out the car to get the air?
Starting point is 00:11:39 You stick in your face out there shit, listening to EPMD, kid and play. It's all 88. BISMalky is a BASA. Yeah, 88. You know what I'm saying? Those are classic times for me. I like to know that You're too young
Starting point is 00:11:54 You assembled No, no, he can know what time is My uncle, rest in peace Tom G He was like a ill One of my illest uncles And he had the white cellica The Seldic picked me up
Starting point is 00:12:06 The system was crazy Take me downtown 125th Street It's the mixtape Rock and Will All of that He I remember one of his favorite tapes
Starting point is 00:12:18 That shit has It's my thing on He He kept just playing, and I'm like, This is my day. I just told him, play it all the way back to Yankees. I remember that, and I got all the y'all, and I should be. Your music selection of samples.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Where does that come from? Your moms, your pops. Yeah, my dad had a bunch of records. One thing about me and Paris is nobody would never believe it, though, but we didn't know about digging, you know, as far as, you know, going to get records and have record stores. We long out of, we don't have that type of situation. Whatever was in front of them speakers,
Starting point is 00:12:53 because don't forget, back then, the records was against the wall unit. So whatever that was over there, we took to the studio. Whatever Paris had his crib, he took to the studio. So the records that was there was, again, Parliament, of course, you know, Earth with the Fire,
Starting point is 00:13:09 BT Express, the whole announcement. So what you hear, what's you saying, Jane Brown, you hear, do you hear, you got the whispers, you got Pad of the Bell, you got, you know, those type of records. Earth with the Firewood and Fire. you know, whatever, you got those. One record we got from the label
Starting point is 00:13:24 when we signed the Stephenback records, we got from that was sitting underneath their record player, you know? So there was no digging. Whatever that was in, at the crib is what we sampled. Man, that was the best samplings. And it's my thing, too. Of course, break piece was out too back then.
Starting point is 00:13:41 So prior to the DJ, he had those. So we had the brakes. That's where Jane came from. That's Joe Tex. It's my thing seven minutes of punk, the whole nine. But again, we made these. songs and we didn't know how to make a chorus. So our records was just going like this.
Starting point is 00:13:56 The label called Ted and Special K to come to Long Island. He says, give me that record that you sample, it's my thing from. So seven is a funk, right? Because we just got the sample going, boom, boom, boom, boom, it's going. It's my thing,
Starting point is 00:14:11 going. None of it, no antics, no nothing. They come in and they get to the part where it goes particular, particular, but then So I'm like, okay, they had the indent when the chorus is coming in. That's when I learned how to make a chorus.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Before that, I had no clue. So I owe them that. Because now when I'm making you a customer, now I'm going, get down, get down. But time keeps on slipping. So I'm knowing how to format now. How does EPMD see Redman? How does Eric Sherman meet Redman?
Starting point is 00:14:49 we had a show at Cleft Sensations in New New Jersey which is like being in Brooklyn or being in some place where We know what New York Shout out to the bridge Yeah we shout up to the brick Yeah we shout up to the break Sensations though you can get robbed in that place
Starting point is 00:15:03 Big time Right So we go backstage And I see do it all from Los Underground He rhymed for me At the defense rhyme He said you're my DJ rhyme
Starting point is 00:15:16 Right It's Reggie No So Reggie said... Oh, he was their DJ. He was his DJ. So before those are underground, this was through-it-all. I said, go ahead and say something.
Starting point is 00:15:28 He says, I float like a butterfly, sting like the rock rule. He didn't say Muhammad Ali. So I stopped him. You immediately was like... Put him on stage that night. Didn't even know him. Now, the crowd's saying, yo, what's Red Man doing up there?
Starting point is 00:15:43 There's the people that knew him for knew it. But that's how my thing was. I already knew it was special because he didn't. and say Sting like Muhammad Ali. He said, float like a butterfly, sting like the rock group. When I first met Murray, it took one of them lines.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Let's squash the beef cooker, and we all can get fat. So all I saw was a hamburger, so-and-so, rising whatever in my head. Metaphores. That's why when Nas came to me, when he was doing an el-matic,
Starting point is 00:16:14 I gave him seedless beats because I didn't understand Queensbridge because my rhyme was one of that S-P-E-L-O solo Dassefix Wicked D. Wow, Wicked D. Red Man.
Starting point is 00:16:27 I got A's bitch whatever so. These are metaphor people. My only regret not to go in someplace else is me not taking nods seriously because when they left me with the Pete Rock's house.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Damn. You had a chance to be on that I want to put this out here too for those who don't know about this. Only on Joe and Jadet. Exactly. Somebody bought Biggie Small to the barbershop
Starting point is 00:16:52 in Brooklyn. And listened to him. Mm. You should get a tattoo with two strikes on y'all. Yeah, you go to here. Yeah, I know. Fuck!
Starting point is 00:17:07 I'm sorry, Eric Sherman. Okay. Again. Fuck! So this is two mistakes. Illamatic I could have been on. Biggie, I was in. paying attention to him.
Starting point is 00:17:19 I went to Staten Island because Bernard father was a pastor to Staten Island. I got a picture with me and Wutang in in 1989 with all them
Starting point is 00:17:28 on my Iroch and Paris had twin irons, right? Took a picture? Me and Ray Kwan went to go sit his name was Shala there
Starting point is 00:17:36 and we sat down on his step at his building. I was going to sign Ray Kwan. He talks about that too. I could have Wu-Tang Clan.
Starting point is 00:17:45 My mom was too young for that. I get it. So, Teflon, Rick Ross, I had Tony Taylor put him to my crib. Rick Ward slipped in my basement for months. I didn't take him seriously. He could rhyme.
Starting point is 00:18:01 This is this rapists that I had. It's the time when you're feeling like you're going to put an artist out of work with him or you could be going through other shit where you just not focused on... I already got money. I got my own groups. So again, I'm going to help you, but my focus wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:18:20 I'm living next door to Corey Rooney. He knocks on my door, and next to him is Curtis Jackson. Curtis Jackson comes in, we go in the basement, we make five records, and then we make heat waves. We don't do it like we do. So that was his first single before he got shot. So that, too, was, again, they brought that to me. But something happened. He's just the rappers that came to me first.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Ludacris knocked on my door for a month. In Atlanta, when you was already in Atlanta? But again, I looked at him as Reggie, so I didn't take it seriously neither two at the time. My boy, D. Mack, brung the game to Fox Hills Mall. I told game, Spitz of 16, he didn't know what the 16 was. Go to Vibe Magazine. You know on Cap.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Whatever. He tells the people, yeah, I was going to sign with Eric, but he wasn't ready. Let me keep going to rapists? I mean, I don't know that many people that got my story of those emcees that came to me, Uno, first, that I could have had. But you know, I could have, sorry, the crew you did assemble.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Red Man, Keith Mary, K. Solo. Das effect. Daz Effects? You signed Daz Effects? You signed Daz Effects? Yeah. They won effects. That's the Eric Sherman. be? I'm in the chorus. The live effects.
Starting point is 00:19:49 They want a neck for some live... That's me in the chorus. Let me tell you something. Their second single, they say, because you didn't know my flow, fat like Joe, like Joe. Oh, my. I used to love that shit.
Starting point is 00:20:02 When that shit, come on. Kisses throwing flags. Come on now. Take them shit back, man. Yeah, but I ain't know that. I didn't know that. I did not know the Daz effects. So when you did all the POSC...
Starting point is 00:20:12 Everybody's no hitmaker. Listen, right? Six months, I had him in the crib. Or hip maker. Six months. Oh. Talks about that story, too. I got to remember the people.
Starting point is 00:20:23 It's a lot of people. I got to flex one time because I don't talk. There's nobody like me. I don't go for who out there? When it comes to... No, no, when it comes to... Listen, because again, people talk about shit, the niggins don't talk. I'm talking now.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Folk all the hip-hop style. My R&B, InVogue, Jodd, Mary J. Blas, Chico de Barge, DeMarge. for fucking keep sweat fucking Brownstone Angie Stone I was doing
Starting point is 00:20:52 R&B as much as I was doing hip hop records but again if you don't know Black Street or booty call that was my day first single it's no everybody called me when I was doing Black Street
Starting point is 00:21:05 Farrell was in the corner I got a record on YouTube right now where I left Farrell rap with somebody it's called boot knacklingization I know it's the ill name but but again That's a, that's a, that's a poor situation in 2025.
Starting point is 00:21:20 But again, I looked at Farrell, and I was going to do that, but I took Dave Hollister from Black Street. Dave Hollister was the man. And I did the first two albums. And then, too, Afarzo Hunter, niggas, though they look over that. You know, like, this is, this is, they, they're not me, nigga. I don't get fuck, who out there? The niggas, I hear them talk.
Starting point is 00:21:39 I got to do it on y'all's show. Because, again, y'all had big names. Callet, Cardi, you know, you know, This is Sierra. This is big names on this show. We got the biggest. The biggest. Like water.
Starting point is 00:21:51 And, no, there's a big name. Shutting them down. No, but listen. That doesn't know. No, no, no. This show right here is out of control. And whenever I try to do a favor, it's like, it's a favor. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:06 So there's certain people who are legends who are whatever, but I already know the people we turn down. Right. So when they come, I'm like, how do I sneak them on this? They snuck up the two Jewish guys on me. Jada kissing these motherfuckers. Two Jewish guys came up on and they sat in here. They did that.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Oh, they went on the show. In my partners. Yo, the motherfuckers. Yo, the motherfuckers stuck up on this shit. Like, I said, what the fuck is going on here? They sat down. Jewish guys came with their own mic. Niggas sat down.
Starting point is 00:22:41 They had their own mic. Yo, this, this, that. This. I said, yo, how these motherfuckers? It's finesse that. This is a heavily secured building. Yeah. I didn't finesse it.
Starting point is 00:22:52 They came here. I didn't know somebody in the job. I knew the fix was in. But, you know, I'm cool. I'm cool with everybody getting their shine. Everybody getting their spot. No, the show is big. So, again, you know, I did pause.
Starting point is 00:23:04 But listen, you know what? Why am I doing this? I'm not even with that. No, no, no, no, no. No, you know why? Because this show, because you do it. No. Yeah, you do.
Starting point is 00:23:15 The problem with is his favorite choice of meal at the concert or about the porking? Nah. Yeah. I mean, food is good, though. I'm true to the culture. You see Big Daddy Kane posted himself eating the glitz. They're starting to send me shit. The veggie.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Yeah, yeah, it was different. Yeah, yeah, it was different. It was different. A snow and cypher gar. He got it. Hey, yo, he showed that was a Hebrew national. Who changed the on Seif? Who changed the word from the hot dog paws?
Starting point is 00:23:42 Who changed it? The new generation. Okay. Well, the new generation got everything fucked up. They are out here. You can't wear Air Force One now. Air Force One's his grandfather sneaking. I don't care what they say.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Yeah, they're bugging. They're actually like you work in the hospital. They already try to abolish the block. This is the first time. They can't do that even. Why you have a look at the youth and said, fuck you. Right. This is the first time in my life.
Starting point is 00:24:08 They could do the dumbest shit you ever seen. Paint their hell or wild shit. I don't do. Whatever they do, I'm like, God bless. The Air Force is the old man, fuck you. Did they stop be your money? Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Did they stop in your money? I don't give a fuck about stopping the money. It's just now is less. I know. Yes, too much. Over the top. Over the top. You know what Mark Wahlberg tells me.
Starting point is 00:24:33 What? Sylvester Stallone tells me. Yo. All in bread don't tells me. Joe, go ahead, Joe. You want me to flex and not. This is what this shit is. Big up yourself.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Yes. You have freedom, Joe. The podcast allows you to have a freedom. You have no boss. You need freedom. Stephen A. Smith came and sat there and was like, yo, you guys are envy you guys. Because I work for a big corporate company.
Starting point is 00:25:03 You guys up here, you could do whatever the fuck you want. You have freedom. That's what this show is about. It's having freedom. We could talk about whatever the fuck we want to talk about. serving it's a visible line, you know. And so my thing is, my thing is, right, what's going on by now, it happened in every in every level.
Starting point is 00:25:27 You know, when we're kids, unfortunately, I'm sorry everybody. When we was coming up, we young gangsters 14, 15, we had to beat up the guys that was legends that was already 21, 22 years old in order to get a name out there. That's how you make your name in the street. So I see what the young kids are doing. doing, they're like, man, fuck, these guys are trying to run shit today a hundred years old. Let's start with the Air Force.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Old man's shit, they're trying to date us. And we are here talking to my nine, we're trying to still get the bag right now. Like, you're trying to, you know, they're doing that. They're trying to, they're consciously, the youth is consciously trying to make us old niggas. Yeah. That's it. They try.
Starting point is 00:26:09 They do it. And they, they do it. They run that age a lot. Yeah, but we don't. don't care because... Even with music, too, they'd be like, you know, you rhyme and still or you... It's like this, man. I'll rap circles around mad on my... I know. They don't...
Starting point is 00:26:23 And they find out. Yeah, I know. But they do that for some reason. When it's so rich, guys. When it ain't, it ain't. I'm sick. Rich, you lost the battle. You're right.
Starting point is 00:26:34 I'm cased up. My nigga. Yeah. That's one thing that Joe Gons let you know is about that bread. No, I'm just... I don't let people know right now. Don't come from... me. Somebody tried to come
Starting point is 00:26:46 from me because I don't speak about money, right? I fucked around and went on a drink chance, made a mistake. I was trying to teach the kids about owning their publishing, right? About what you can if it come back to you, you know what I'm saying, what can happen? So when
Starting point is 00:27:02 weekend sampled the record, because I was making the money from Mario Wieners, I don't want to know anyway. I probably was making like a hundred thousand dollars something like that. Back then. But the weekend, one of the biggest stream of dollars in the world, streamed 1.9 billion streams. So my check was $250,000 every three months, right,
Starting point is 00:27:22 for 4% owners. Just for that. Right, for that. You know, I don't cap on nothing. So, no, no, but I don't talk about it. So if I don't have it, then you don't know I don't have it, you know? I've been buying houses since I was 20. This is not, this is a flex, I've been rocking a road because I was 18. This is not something that that was, since it was, knew as far as how people talk about things, about whatever. I had, I was buying houses in the land and I wasn't even living in.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Apartments, the whole not, I never even saw them. Look at certain things because you don't, it's not a lack of scientists and no, if you look at, okay, here's the deals that Eric is making in these companies. Okay, there's Murray's at Jive, Reggie's at Def Jam, Afonzo's at DreamWorks, this and that, whatever, how, Afonzo's at EMI. So if you see me on that, then I got my own group, right? So now these are all these advances. I own all the publishing, like I own my publishing now.
Starting point is 00:28:19 So all this stuff you look at, whatever, another rocket scientist. But I don't have to tell you that. But if you're going to look at it, then you look at it. But I know one thing that I determined the long time ago, these young cats that only respect got back. Right. Now, if you were broke, nice, nigger, they ain't even giving it up. they're not they not they're looking past you the only thing they respect when i see little lotto
Starting point is 00:28:49 young lotto she'd be like you get to me that when i see these youngs the ones that do respect me they be like the young ones are getting it though that's what i'm saying did they came in a time where the money's heavy for them they it wasn't like that fuss we had the hustle joe i got it was number one in the country i was getting five hundred dollars a show doing the chitlin circuit Philly, the Bronx, Yonkers. Next week, Virginia, D.C., the fucking North Carolina, like, you know, 1500, like... EPA's first record deal was $1,500. I got, I got $7.50, I got $7.50.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I went to Marshals, and I went to grocery store. That means, thanks, Cindy. That thing! They bought the key of... Why don't keep throwing me in... They bought, they caught their advance, and they bought a key of Coke, took it up the Yonkers. Baltimore. Baltimore?
Starting point is 00:29:41 Who y'all did? He did. Say the story, right. I'm telling you. Baltimore. It wasn't so feasible, right? 10,000 for three people ain't so feasible even.
Starting point is 00:29:55 I know what I'm saying. I'm not against what? Wait, wait, wait, wait, what year was that, though? 90-something nervous. 3,000? That ain't a lot of nothing. Well, my first apartment was $6.50. a month, one, one, one, one, one bedroom, one baths, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:14 I ain't had no furniture on there, nothing like that. But, you know, I was out the hood. I was in, uh, in Rosnick. Where? Droznick in the Bronx. Oh. Droznick in the Bronx is like a mansion. Today's show is brought to you by a presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet.
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Starting point is 00:32:01 That's in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, and Virginia. I'm Kristen Davis, host of the podcast. Are You a Charlotte? The most anticipated guest from season three is here. The Trey to My Charlotte. Kyle McLaughlin joins me to relive all of the magical Trey and Charlotte moments. He reveals what he thinks of Trey giving Charlotte a cardboard baby. Why would I bring her a cardboard baby?
Starting point is 00:32:30 I was literally, I was like, this doesn't track for me at all. When he found out Trey's shortcomings. I'm kind of excited at talking about, you know, I think he's a guy spends time in Central Park. You know, he's probably, you know, he'll be some surgery stuff, you know. And I was like, all this kind of stuff going on. And they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, fine. And they said, but he's impotent. And I was like, he's impotent.
Starting point is 00:32:50 And why he chose not to return to it just like that. They came and presented an idea. And I was like, I get, I see it. It's so kind of a one joke idea. You don't want to miss this. Listen to Are You a Charlotte on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What were some of the memories from your USO tours? That nobody knew who I was and they were like, why do we have to say hello to this guy?
Starting point is 00:33:14 Recently on the Good Stuff podcast, we sat down with our friend Bradley Cooper to talk about family. What is the good stuff to you? I mean, of course it's my daughter. His deep friendship with host Jacob. He was there when I found out that I was going to have a baby, which was incredible. I remember that. You showed me the picture. You're like, what's that mean?
Starting point is 00:33:32 And I was that, oh, my God. Did you ever tell the clinician story on this? Which one? Well, the handcuffed. Oh, dude. and how they've been there for each other through the hard times. You know, I've been lucky enough to have dealt with some issues early on, you know, relatively early on in my life.
Starting point is 00:33:47 And I was able to sort of walk Jacob through some stuff. Yeah, next month I'll be eight years clean and sober. You were a big time part of that. I leaned on you real heavy. I think times that you knew and times you didn't know. Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's me, Eric Andre, bombing with Eric Andre
Starting point is 00:34:10 and Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and the I Heart Radio. We are back with fresh chaos. Our latest episode features Tony Hawk, Rico Nasty, Yamanika Saunders, and Derek Beckles. Here's a fraction of what happened. This is your worst injury in your career, correct?
Starting point is 00:34:28 The most traumatic in terms of danger factor and life-threatening, yes. What were the injuries? Fracture, skull, broken, thumb fractured pelvis. Look at your thumb. Yeah, I changed my signature. I can tell if I signed stuff before or after that.
Starting point is 00:34:43 You got health insurance? I do. I'm not explicitly putting down what I'm doing on insurance forms. Listen to bombing with Eric Andre on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Bombing with Eric Andre. Hey there. Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA Health.
Starting point is 00:35:04 And I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mailroom. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer. And like a lot of guys, I haven't been to the doctor in many years. I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't. Because guys usually don't go to the doctor unless a piece of their face is hanging off or they've broken a bone. Depends which bone. Well, that's true. Every week, we're breaking down the unique world of men's health, from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility, and things that happen in the bedroom.
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Starting point is 00:35:55 So check out the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. What up y'all? It's your boy, Kevin on stage. I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Moment, where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends, people I admire who had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak? And what did they learn from him? I got judged horribly. The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got on the show. Boo. Somebody had tomatoes. I'm kidding. But if they had tomatoes, they would have thrown the tomatoes. Let's be honest. We've all had those moments we'd rather forget. We bumped our head.
Starting point is 00:36:37 We made a mistake. The deal fell through. We're embarrassed. We failed. But this podcast is about that and how we made it through. So when they sat me down, they were kind of like, we got into the small talk. And they were just like, so what do you got? What?
Starting point is 00:36:51 What ideas? And I was like, oh, no. What? Check out Not My Best Moment with me, Kevin on stage, on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast. Bad Joe, the apartment that we had in Jersey, I had one of them, too. Never spent one day in it. Never did.
Starting point is 00:37:13 No, one day. Man, I was jealous because you already, you know, I moved to Miami 20, 17 years ago, one of my biggest. Right. You know how you said you could have signed? Yeah. One of my biggest decisions, I don't regret Miami, but within myself. myself. When I land in Atlanta, I feel like I'm at home. Birds chirping. I love it. I love the people. I love the atmosphere. I love the food.
Starting point is 00:37:38 I love everything about Atlanta. And I always wondered, did I make the right move when I moved to Miami rather than Atlanta? If I would have went to Atlanta, I would have signed all of them. Right. The future to this one. Right, right, right. Everybody. Out of clean house in that bitch, they would have been calling me, you know, the king or something. Because I was signing. I signed DJ Callet. I signed Big Pun. I signed Remy Ma.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Could have signed Eminem. Could have signed Rick Ross. Could have signed Pitbull. The list is going. Smokey Rob. Right? But in Atlanta, we got to get Smokey to wear some rewind.
Starting point is 00:38:23 If Smokey could do it. Let me tell you something. You know, any good thing, they laugh at you. Right. Why are you doing them? And then when you get that bag, they come and tell you how much of a jealious you are. They say, yo, man, you always know, Joe. You always know.
Starting point is 00:38:44 When they hear this shit, the type of numbers this shit doing, they're going to be like, and I've been keeping everything. Right. No. But we are number one in CVS. We're the number one product of CVS, the number one product. I just mention it to you. No, no.
Starting point is 00:38:58 But the number one. Okay. You could buy toothbrushes. You could buy medicine. You could buy this, this, this. That shit's smoking them. Number one. The other brand you mentioned got 70s.
Starting point is 00:39:11 You said the other brand you mentioned. The other brand you mentioned, their boxes got 70s porn stars. You know what I'm saying? A motherfucker. A motherfucker outdated, flabby. Yeah. This is that new shit of double the product.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Yeah. I'm telling you. No, I just. I told you about it. I'm working. I don't give a fuck. Now, you want to talk about my era. I came in the game, Jay-Z, Naz.
Starting point is 00:39:39 No, no, no, no. Lojo was early, man. Yeah, but it was the same era. No, way before Jay-Z. This is 96 Jehovah. I'm 93. Okay, what I'm trying to tell you is I came in there. When I was already in the game, making my $500,
Starting point is 00:39:56 making my $500. These guys came into the game young. I watched them build billion-dollar empires. I watched Puff Daddy. Puff Daddy had the most visible see-through chain you ever seen in your life when I met. I met Puff Daddy when he was promoting parties. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Before Biggie Smalls, before he had anything. So he used to run up to me when I was in my beamers and beds and bed says, yo, here's my flyer. When he's promoting clubs, you mean back there? Yeah, yeah. Here's my flyer, buddy. for my party and this and I watched these guys build billion dollar
Starting point is 00:40:30 empires. And I finally had to sit back and go, yo, it's time to invest. It's time to bring out products. It's time to surrogisar rum you could love. It's time to do real business. You know, and so that's where I'm behind the eight ball when you talk about
Starting point is 00:40:47 the people I watch come in after me and fucking get to the back, to the bag, bag, bag. But nobody told us. See, if you didn't do that, Nobody was told you shit. Nobody told us those people just happened to know. My man told me to make clothes after Carl Knai.
Starting point is 00:41:05 I looked him like he was crazy. I'm breaking clothes. I'm a rapper. I make music, you know? But he had the idea, but I never looked at it like that. That was a lot to do with it, too. You felt like, you know, my brother, rest of peace, Raoul was almost two years since he passed. But he had a lot.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Raul told me, because Raul was the cameramanman. Raul told me something that I thought was the dumbest shit you ever heard in the like. He said, bro, every time you perform, I see you drinking water. Why don't we sell water? This is before anybody sold the water. Fuck hip-hop. I'm not talking about biting. Water used to get for free from the pump, from the fucking water machine.
Starting point is 00:41:47 This, then it was like, yo, we should sell water. I'm like, man, ain't nobody. Does that sound crazy? Fucking water, nigga. Like, water is free. Nah. I'm telling you, if you saw what, he had a couple of ideas prematurely ahead of time that we didn't take serious.
Starting point is 00:42:05 How we took him serious, I mean, when I go to his, to the grave all the time, I always tell him, I say, yo, Raul, man, you really have some ideas. Like, he had some ideas that could have put us in the game a long time ago, but we ain't really listened to him. You know what I'm saying? We wasn't thinking on that level. We was trying to be rappers. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Because you had the idea for a long time for you did that? My dad, he was in coffee for my whole life. Oh, okay. Food's early back in the day. He was always telling me, yo, you got to do your own? We got to do it. I was brushing them all. We thought we know.
Starting point is 00:42:42 I tell him shit, he don't listen to me. You know, my man came to get me. My man came to give me John Singleton. Came to get me to be people. I was supposed to matter. He was shot. John Singleton was in the Bronx Jimmy's Bronx Cafe
Starting point is 00:42:57 Every day begging me to be in the movie shop I was supposed to be in glory I had to do so I told Denzel go holding shit You know what's wrong with them man I'm telling you the truth I had so many opportunities
Starting point is 00:43:13 I was too busy being the Jimmy's being a rapper I was like yo acting I don't get even to this day my sister Brett me she's doing the movie right now I feel bad for her I'm like damn That's the... She's like, yeah, 18 hour days. And, like, acting is almost torture.
Starting point is 00:43:27 It's like, it's fun. It's great. I think it lasts longer than music, to be honest with you. You have, like, a fucking hit movie. Like, if you have like... Hey, Joe, I'm not mad at the movie with you on the sofa with the gun in the sofa. I'm not mad at that film.
Starting point is 00:43:42 I'm not mad at you, too, in the jail, on the camera when you was talking, like, see, I fuck with you with them shit, be? But you know what happened, I had a minute and juice, I was a star did they rob me but I was a star in the bar
Starting point is 00:43:57 and turn around but my thing is I love those moments right shout out she's got to have it I love those moments the problem is I'm not the boss
Starting point is 00:44:05 right so right now we're joking and we're like y'all let's go over there it's like they was waiting
Starting point is 00:44:11 me up six in the morning and my scene was at 10 at night for fucking uh the hate school yo they were slaving me B
Starting point is 00:44:19 and then I get to the hotel like you remember how your dad used to go home I'm like, sleep with the clothes on and shit. And that's what I was doing. And then they wake me back up. 5.30, 6 o'clock, the van's coming to get you.
Starting point is 00:44:30 I do the same shit. I go over there and wait to 9 o'clock at night to shoot the scene. They had Joe Crack, the rapper. You know, I remember your man used to pick on me, Kevin Harbors, come, yo, it's ain't the studio, you ain't rapping. Wake up. I'm like, oh, shit. Like, the acting's a whole different type of what they do to you.
Starting point is 00:44:52 But I love the finish. This right here is tangible. Now, for those who don't know, I got a company called death rugs that I've been doing death rugs for eight years. Oh, yeah, I got my runs every last one of y'all. So I don't know if you got, if you got it, Joe, yeah, folks, again, right. See, I want to do the flex thing. I got to, that's too much.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Niggas, talk about what they do. The niggas is not me, nigger. They're not me. I got to deal with Levi's that come out January. You know, Nause just did, they signed two people. They did him. I did the EPMD, right? I need that.
Starting point is 00:45:25 We got to buy that, Danny. I know that shit going to be crazy. I have a Netflix, not Netflix, stars, documentary series called 88 First that's coming in February, right? Wow, I want to see that. This is the silent part of whatever, because this is how the quiet, because I'm an introvert at first.
Starting point is 00:45:46 But on this show is where I decided to say, okay, you know what? Because you bring it up of underratedness. So I'm doing it, you know? They don't hear me speaking, so I'm speaking now. And since this is what you not have to do, what people are doing,
Starting point is 00:46:04 I'm doing minds at this type of switch. You know what, this is your home. You know what's crazy? De La Sol came in and they kept laughing. It was like, yo, this is my favorite show. I can't believe I'm sitting here. No, it is. Looking at my favorite show.
Starting point is 00:46:15 No, it's people. They sitting there like, yo, I'm looking at my favorite show. What the fuck I'm doing here? Yo, this is great. This is your house. Everybody that knew on my schedule, right, and going to mention all the names, too. When this name came up, they were like, oh, word?
Starting point is 00:46:31 Yeah, this is what it is. We're the realest. We're the most authentic. We're the most realest. We're preserving the house. Fucking on us to do. This day is that. We pay homage to the true legends.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Yeah. We got true right now. We got Bill and Bellamy. We ain't fronting on the legends. This is water. This is lick. I got you. Come in here, you lay on the couch,
Starting point is 00:46:52 you do what the fuck you want. This is your house. This is the house that you built. Me and him, we just here. We just join the time. We get to sit with our legacies, guys. Navigate. Yeah, and it's different levels of legend.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Okay, I got you. So, De La So come here. You come here. I start by saying you're a genius. Right. Right. I mean, to the people who don't think I'm capped and take my word for anything,
Starting point is 00:47:17 I told him, what's a fucking genius? What he's even able to do is out of this world. Like, I'm amazed. You know, I get amazed by some of the guests that come here like you and I see it here. And every time I talk to you, I know you always quiet. You mind your business. But, you know, you put in that pain in this game.
Starting point is 00:47:40 You know, shout out my brother Opie Megatron, man. He plays EPMD every day. He puts you on his Instagram every fucking day. And so there's people who really love you, man. Opie, love you, man. Everybody, people really, really love you and your contributions to the game. Ain't for you.
Starting point is 00:47:56 We ain't got no red man. Well, some man named, he passed away. I think he was used to be with you back in the days. He was role manager. Big up. Oh, Alvin Tony. Alvin Tony. How you know Elvis?
Starting point is 00:48:09 Tony, he started, somehow we got, somehow, I don't know if it was through a promoter. Somehow he, somehow he, I did a few shit. Oh, you did, but did, but did, did you do some work with him far as rapping somebody? Yeah, I did a deal. I mean, when that happens, he said, yo-yo, I got J-D-a-Kiss on some, on a record. I'm like, no, you didn't.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Yeah. I can't get J-B-D-Kiss on a record. What? No, you can't get him on a record. Now, I'm glad you brought this up. This nigger right here, dude. You know, this, yo, yo, Joe, let's talk about it. Yo, yo, listen.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Listen, yo. Yo, that d'Jat is. Listen, Joe. Yo, he's in it. Yo, yo, he's in it, whatever. Yo, I got you. One month, two months, three months. Yo, what up?
Starting point is 00:48:57 Yo, he's in it. We're talking about Jada? Yes. Oh, no, no, he's the hardest. He's the hardest. I remember when I... No, but he's... He says okay.
Starting point is 00:49:07 I had to track this guy down into the studio. I had to call D from the Rough Riders. Like, I had to call that him in the studio. I thought it was just... Me? hottest wrecked out. My lifestyle was this shit. And I was like, yo, I need, like, it was like,
Starting point is 00:49:23 with you get Jay to kiss, y'all. You know, he wanted him back. Yeah, he just left on us, B. Yeah, yeah, he doesn't, yeah, he's like, fuck this thing with her. Kiss, will you see that? In that one. In this one, too. In this one.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Yo, yo. When you get home and rewind the table. Yo, B. Yo, man. He smashed you down. On the phone. The okay. Hey, yo, I got you.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Who's some other guys who've okayed you and never showed up? Like, T.I. T.I. is one? On the text, yo, he sent it. No response. You know, man. And listen, I was one of those guys. I make a lot of you.
Starting point is 00:50:05 You was one, too. Kanye West told me, Snoop told me one time. Isn't this and that, that didn't know. So I didn't even get mad because I was that person that one time, you know? Didn't do it on purpose. maybe something's going on at the time. So I can't get mad at him. I couldn't get mad at such a...
Starting point is 00:50:22 I thought Norie did it one time, but when it went straight to my email, I would have never known because it didn't tell him on the phone that I got an email. So I'm like, Noia, yo, damn, I hit you a month ago. What I was? Eric, I've been sent that. So, again...
Starting point is 00:50:37 On the email. Yeah, it was on the email. You know, your artists say, Remy would be DMX, and he would tell him he's going to do a song She'll come back. This is a young Remington. She'll come back.
Starting point is 00:50:49 And I'd be like, I said, yo, he ain't doing this. I'd be like, you know, it's certain artists you would meet at, that's what happened with me when I met R. Kelly. R. Kelly? You made the hit record. Yeah, but R. Kelly came to me. I seen them all-star weekend. He said, yo, Joe, I want to work with you.
Starting point is 00:51:07 I said, brother, do not lie to me. Right. I said, Kells, don't lie to me. I'm not the guy. I was still very ghetto. So I was like, yo, don't lie to me. Three fat Joe's. Three fat Joe's ago.
Starting point is 00:51:20 And fucking 24 chinchillas ago. I was chinchillet out like this. Nick, I got the chinchilla refrigerator. Hold up. What year was that, Joe? I don't know. Because I was battling with you on the radio with records. With that hit record.
Starting point is 00:51:35 I think it was 2001 or 2002. Either I was battling with you with music or either react. But for some reason, we was on the chart. Me, you, Sean Paul, and Missy. Ballin. Big boys. 2002, I think. That week?
Starting point is 00:51:49 2001. Okay, so 2001. So, Philly All-Star. He told me you're going to do a song with me. I'm like, yo, bro, don't lie to. Like, I was just way too ghetto at that time. And I went down to Orlando. We cut it.
Starting point is 00:52:03 You know what I'm saying? So I changed my life. But, you know, we're talking about guys who you meet and you swear you're going to do a song with. Then they disappear. And I used to have, like, Remi would come up to a couple of guys have come up to me and be like, oh, I met such and such.
Starting point is 00:52:18 He said he's doing the song with me be. I'm like, bro, wish upon a green clover. He said, Rememey, Ma, D.M.X said he was going to do a record with her. Premature. She was mad young. I was like, I think she could have got that. Yeah, but Joe said, hell no. That's not how going to happen, remember.
Starting point is 00:52:37 He did it to Tone Sunshine. Love Tone Sunshine. I'm like, Tony, oh, my God, you're in credit. Tony went to L.A. hung out with that dude for like a fucking week when he went to do the verse he fell asleep in the booth some shit tone was like yo send me home god
Starting point is 00:52:54 like I can't do it no more after 60 games of pool and this and that and motherfucker riding his cars and all that tone was like yo send me it is what it is you know what I'm saying sometimes listen man I was wanting them be so so I know
Starting point is 00:53:10 I owe you no no no no but but no because but you missed it I was one of them. That's why I don't even look at it. I was one of them, I promise you. Niggas will say, I was like, yo, and there'd be production most of the time sometimes. I got a shot out.
Starting point is 00:53:25 I just didn't do it. Bernard Alexander, he saved my life. I was already in the Bronx getting money. Yeah. Like, I was in the Bronx kicked up, and I refused to move. Even though I was in the nicer part of it was still Thrysnake one-in-one. And my wife was like,
Starting point is 00:53:41 yo, we've got to get out of here, all these strange cars. Keep coming around here and this and this and that. And so I hit up Bernard, Bernard was like, come to Jersey, bro. We'd be over here. It was brand new. It was changed my life.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Brand new. It was a townhouse and the water. Yeah. Inside that building, though, kiss, it was me, Joe, Dave Harster, too short ended up moving over there. So we were over there. You don't know what's crazy is I knew they was hired 50 cent.
Starting point is 00:54:08 After 50 cent got shot. I'm waiting for 50s. Oh, they drove into the pokeros. 50's coming. Right? But he don't know. I knew where he was at. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:16 You know what I'm saying? But, you know. You know what? But Beno was managing her. Yeah. Benal was managing. Yeah, it was none of my business. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:23 It was a time. I didn't really know either side or whatever. And they was like, y'all, I can't fit. He just got hit up. I'm taking the ball. I was like, all right. You know what you want me to do? They had, you know, we had a good time over there.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Let's talk about the new process. Okay, good. Okay. Okay. We had enough because we flexed. Jada went to the bathroom because he wanted him by himself and then we had
Starting point is 00:54:49 the product promoted and you flexed about what time was the new project you got the Eddie Murphy shit where you can close the roof no Eddie Murphy let me tell you that documentary
Starting point is 00:55:00 that's how I want to see my OGs now after you we have Bill Bellamy that's really what I want to I don't want to talk to you about Eddie Murphy and know like
Starting point is 00:55:11 but I watched you saw the Eddie Murphy documentary That shit was fired. And that's how I want to see my O.Gs and big... Yeah, we never saw him flex before like that. I'm tired of motherfuckers dying, broke and all this and this and that. I'm just happy. Joe, you know, nobody...
Starting point is 00:55:27 I keep telling you, we're not taught. If we was taught literacy about money and how to do certain things, Paris was the one that showed me about homes. Because he bought him first early. I'm like, you know, what are you doing? You know, with the houses and stuff. I didn't have no house at first. He did.
Starting point is 00:55:46 I had an apartment. And I didn't know. And then Bert Piddell was, everybody's accounting. So Bert Pudel was doing what he can do. But he was a crook. No, Bert would just get you what you needed. But he was switching the, he was switching your social numbers back then. So for the get, to get credit.
Starting point is 00:56:04 It's a crook. And don't be going to take a piss break yourself. Let me hear about, too. No, I want me hear about. I want to hear about that. I want to hear about Bert. What are you going to hear about. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:12 I want to hear about. Let me hear what Burke was doing. No, the bank was in the downstairs. So say if you're young and you're new, see, I didn't, my social number wasn't the social number that he had. So I got to go get a social security card with my mom's one time, and it was a different number. That's when I noticed, okay, before you heard about the scams
Starting point is 00:56:41 of getting dead people or getting whatever like that, that that's what was happening. So if I wanted the new bins or home or something like that, I didn't have credit. But here, you've got credit now because here's the new social. It wasn't said like that until you look at it.
Starting point is 00:56:57 You know what I'm saying? But that was, you know, again, something that we didn't know to later. Bird pieces was it. And then early... It was already... Yeah, but we didn't know.
Starting point is 00:57:09 We didn't know. He had every client. Every... Everybody was with everyone, actors or whatever was him. But when I went to get a new social security card and it was a whole different number. And then I found out, okay, this is how you can get things with these socials when I got, when I learned stuff. But again, being taught about money, we didn't know about money. Everybody had the same program, lawyer, accountant, business management, the whole nine.
Starting point is 00:57:43 I know the lawyer was working with the label to later on, no matter how family they speak to you, everybody is in cooots with each other. So this is how it works, but you didn't learn that. You think everybody's just cool. But the business is, it is a business, you know, and you find out later on. So that's how people get stuck and we get our arrest
Starting point is 00:58:05 and, you know, people go to prison and go to jail for such and such, and for not doing that. Uncle Sam is real. You don't pay and people don't file. file, you don't, it's like you're not ducking. But if you file, then you're in the good, but when you don't say nothing, not when they come and get you. When they came and got me.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Perfect time. Count and fuck me, man. I'm Kristen Davis, host of the podcast, Are You a Charlotte? The most anticipated guest from season three is here. the tray to my Charlotte. Kyle McLaughlin joins me to relive all of the magical Trey and Charlotte moments.
Starting point is 00:58:50 He reveals what he thinks of Trey giving Charlotte a cardboard baby. Why would I bring her a cardboard baby? I was literally, I was like, this doesn't track for me at all. When he found out Trey's shortcomings. I'm kind of excited at talking about, you know, I think he's a guy spends time
Starting point is 00:59:05 in Central Park, you know, he's probably, you know, he'll be some surgery stuff, you know, and I was like all this kind of stuff going on. And they were like, yeah, yeah. Yeah, fine. And they said, but he's impotent. And I was like, he's impotent.
Starting point is 00:59:16 And why he chose not to return to it just like that. They came and presented an idea. And I was like, I get, I see it. It's so kind of a one joke idea. You don't want to miss this. Listen to Are You a Charlotte on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What were some of the memories from your USO tours? That nobody knew who I was and they were like, why do we have to say hello to this guy?
Starting point is 00:59:39 Recently on the Good Stuff podcast, we sat down with our friend Bradley Cooper to talk about family. What is the good stuff to you? I mean, of course, it's my daughter. His deep friendship with host Jacob. He was there when I found out that I was going to have a baby, which was incredible. I remember that. You showed me the picture. You're like, what's that mean?
Starting point is 00:59:58 And I was like, oh, my God. Did you ever tell the Kleeneas story on this? Which one? Well, the handcuffed. Oh, dude. And how they've been there for each other through the hard times. You know, I've been lucky enough to have dealt with some issues early on, you know, relatively early on in my life. And I was able to sort of walk Jacob through some stuff.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Yeah, next month I'll be eight years clean and sober. You were a big time part of that. I leaned on you real heavy. I think times that you knew and times you didn't know. Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's me, Ergondra, bombing with Ericondra and Will Ferrell's Big Money, players and the I Heart Radio. We are back with fresh chaos.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Our latest episode features Tony Hawk, RICO Nasty, Yamanika Saunders, and Derek Beckles. Here's a fraction of what happened. This is your worst injury in your career, correct? It's the most traumatic in terms of danger factor and life-threatening, yes. What were the injuries? Fractured skull, broken thumb, fractured pelvis. Look at your phone. Yeah, it changed my signature.
Starting point is 01:01:07 I can tell if I signed stuff before or after that. You got help insurance? I do. I'm not explicitly putting down what I'm doing on insurance forms. Listen to bombing with Eric Andre on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Bombing, Mommy, with Eric Andre. Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA Health.
Starting point is 01:01:31 And I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mailroom. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer. And like a lot of guys, I haven't been to the doctor in many years. I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't. Because guys usually don't go to the doctor unless a piece of their face is hanging off or they've broken a bone. Depends which bone. Well, that's true. Every week, we're breaking down the unique world of men's health, from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility and things that happen in the bedroom.
Starting point is 01:02:00 You mean sleep? Yeah, something like that, Jordan. We'll talk science without the jargon and get you really. real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about. It's going to be fun, whether you're 27, 97, or somewhere in between. Men's health is about more than six packs and supplements. It's about energy, confidence, and connection. We don't just want you to live longer.
Starting point is 01:02:20 We want you to live better. So check out the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. What up, y'all? It's your boy, Kevin on stage. I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Month. where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends, people I admire who had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on?
Starting point is 01:02:45 What is their heartbreak? And what did they learn from it? I got judged horribly. The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got on the show. Boo, somebody had tomatoes. I'm kidding. But if they had tomatoes, they would have thrown the tomatoes.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Let's be honest. We've all had those moments we'd rather forget. We bumped our head. We made a mistake. The deal fell through. we're embarrassed, we failed. But this podcast is about that and how we made it through. So when they sat me down, they were kind of like,
Starting point is 01:03:14 we got into the small talk, and they were just like, so what do you got? What ideas? And I was like, oh, no. What? Check out Not My Best Moment with me, Kevin on stage, on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 01:03:31 I had an attorney that I really trusted that I really, really loved. Went to his kids, bar, missus, family, cookouts, this, this, that. My accountant that I had, his son became a quadriplegic, so he had to attend to his son
Starting point is 01:03:50 because he was in an accident. So my attorney that I trusted in love forever introduced me to an accountant. This accountant is the guy who stole my money and I eventually went to jail for. So I never fucked with this guy Again, my lawyer, I told him, yo, bro, I can't fuck with you no more.
Starting point is 01:04:09 You set me up with this guy. Now, I've seen him yesterday. I'm in Miami. I got a private show for Harbor View. All of you guys in there. You know what I'm there? Harbor View, baby, in the Scotia. So it's like, I'm up in there, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:28 Laura Piana. You know, he said big money was in the building, so I had to throw the Laura Pia. I don't even know who that is. Oh, what was that? Huh, don't buy a fucking, don't buy a handkerchief in that bitch. That shit real deal. You know what I'm talking about, Danny.
Starting point is 01:04:44 That's shit, another level. But anyway, I come out the elevator and I see him. I come out the elevator and I see him. Last time I saw him was at Chris Lighty, rest and peace. Right. Funnel, he tried to talk to me. I just came out of jail. I was like, yo, my man, don't talk to me.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Don't come around me. Don't talk to me. Because he also disappeared when I had to. case. Right. So boom, I seen him the other day, St. Regis in Miami. He was like, hey, Joe, and I said, what's up? I kept him moving after that. And I don't think I'm over him introducing me to the accountant who kind of destroyed my life. And I lost all my money, went to jail, this, this, I just, you know, I try to be, I was courteous, you know, but I still felt the way. You know what I'm saying? I went upstairs to my room. I was like,
Starting point is 01:05:34 Did he set me up? Did he not set me? There he come. Seek the kingdom. Seek the kingdom. Sometimes you got to smack the shit out of somebody. They didn't seek the king. Yeah, because you went to jail for that.
Starting point is 01:05:48 I also felt like I was somebody in my own, you know, they could say I'm delusional, but I felt like I was somebody who never really got caught. And they wanted me, whether it was little big or something these boys wanted me. And I felt like somebody got. jammed up and they said, yo, who you got?
Starting point is 01:06:08 Fat Joe. Him. Get him. How could you give me him in the platter? And the worst thing is you got somebody you trust. That's how they get you. With somebody you really, really trust. So, kids, this whole shit
Starting point is 01:06:22 is a business. Everybody works together. The same way Spotify works with the labels, got to put that out there for a break. Somebody's making some money. Listen, if the president of Spotify in 2024 he made $300 million
Starting point is 01:06:37 he don't own the company he's just a president he made $300 million what do you think Spotify is getting so they're giving us 0.4 cent now Congress just passed the law they're given us one penny right
Starting point is 01:06:49 so 1 million streams get you 14 grand right before 100,000 streams they get you $200 so all this whole system is fucked up for us but for the labels
Starting point is 01:07:02 and the people who owns Spotify, the president, not the owner, Joe. He made $300 million in 2024. That's great. And then he had a bigger... And these guys all... You know, listen, they've all been crooks since the beginning of the time.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Oh, you made $400 million, $460 million in 2025. They take poor people. They got talent. They use them up. And by the time they learn, game, they'll dust you off and make you the old school at noon and get the new young person to jerk and they just keep doing that and doing that and doing that.
Starting point is 01:07:42 And people like Spotify and all these people are all every... Who haven't made up the point that 1500 spins is one CD, so whoever made up the point that we only get less than one cent. They get their fucking head, boy. Yeah, less than one cent, though, too, is crazy. And then we get an opinion.
Starting point is 01:08:02 At least with the label signed to We got a quarter at least I said this all the time If you sell Let me ask you some Let me go right now I know I don't know
Starting point is 01:08:11 Let me explain Sennie You put your pain Your soul everything Into this Let's say it's a CD If you sold it Yourself on the corner
Starting point is 01:08:21 For 999 That somebody told you He was going to get 8 cents We're not doing that shit It doesn't work for fucking PPS You're right
Starting point is 01:08:30 Right This is the only business that glorifies you get right. I know. You get right. And the minute you learn that you've seen Prince with all that slave shit. Oh, no, he saw it first. The first one, Himalanda McMillan was the first one
Starting point is 01:08:43 that started doing it. The second he started going like this, you're out of here. I'm also looking forward to this Michael Jackson movie because I think they're finally going to start speaking truth to light to where why he got attacked like that. You see, you got to understand. We didn't
Starting point is 01:09:02 know the sophisticated ways of brainwashing the people and smearing people. They smeared Michael Jackson the greatest of all time. They had us thinking he was crazy. Right. Right now, everybody
Starting point is 01:09:17 rocking Botox. Yeah. People bleaching their skin like it's some normal shit. Yeah. People sleeping and fucking, what's my man, Forrest Whitaker sleeps the air machine. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Right. Right. The richer you get, right. You doing what Michael Jackson is doing. Right, buying art. You're thinking this guy's crazy, weird.
Starting point is 01:09:37 He actually was ahead of his time. But even though, we never thought Michael was getting jerked, though. Pause. We didn't know that that was happening. Yeah, but what I'm trying to tell you is that Mike's... You're what I'm saying, but we never... Michael... Different kind of jerked, boss.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Yeah, but I'm saying, but he, for him to come out and say, Ty Mottola's getting, you know, whatever, like, we never thought that was happening. Tommy Mottola's my friend. No, no, no, no, no, but what I'm saying, Sony, he's saying. That's nice. Show me. My thing is...
Starting point is 01:10:03 Hold up. We're going to go back. Michael Jack, no, it's so... Pro artists, man. For the artists. No, I'm for the artist, too, but, my friend. And I also say, hold up, before you start one time, I thought you was getting ready to say,
Starting point is 01:10:16 it's better. That's what I'm talking about now. If only my 8,000 fans give me $1,000, I made $8,000. That's more than me Spotify, the whole nine. Now, if you give me... If 8,000 people give me $100,000... It's an $800,000, right?
Starting point is 01:10:33 At the end of the day, if you have a name, why would you want to go and do all that work on that album and go put it on that platform? I don't understand. Not the people that's new. The people who have names, don't forget, Joe, you can make a record right now. I don't get how big it is.
Starting point is 01:10:51 It doesn't matter. You're already, Joe, you're already famous. You're already iconic. You're not going to get no bigger. The record's not going to get no bigger. You're not going to make no bigger record. It ain't going to happen. You already you.
Starting point is 01:11:03 But if you decide to make music, why not sell it yourself? You already you. Where would you sell it at? Like w-w-w-you-do-you-do-you-on-your-own platform. When I do the product, when I'm doing whatever, whatever, you got fans. If 8,000 people give me $20, 8 times 2 is 16,
Starting point is 01:11:24 it's 160 grand. It doesn't matter. Everything you can do direct-to-consumer is back now. Every WWW is never left. That means when every time somebody goes on TV, every star, everybody with product, you got to go to a website. It's the same shit. Go back to that.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Put that Shopify and that fucking band camp on your shit and go, yo, go get my shit here. And again, let the platform that take it, that's promotion. But at least you got people. Listen, Ice Cube said that once he reached a million, he wanted to reach two million, right? sell records, but you left a million people back here that was his fans. Your court fans ain't going nowhere. If you tell them to do something, they're going to.
Starting point is 01:12:08 So all of us hear that, you went platinum. You don't need a million fans. I said 8,000 people give me $200, right? It's $1.6 million. They're going to pay for what you want to give them. That means merchandise the whole nine. I got to preach that because, again, that's what you do. If you sell them material, if you be selling that, though, too,
Starting point is 01:12:29 even though you, again, with a company, what a matter if you didn't. Your fat Joe, your kiss, it doesn't matter. You do the marketing promotion on yourself and bring them to your platform. I like to learn new shit every day. And that's what this show is about. I just give me the numbers.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Like Jay said, numbers don't lie. It don't matter. They give you 50 bucks, 8,000 people. I'm not talking about Joe, you're millions of fans. I said 8,000 and give you 50 bucks. Eight times five is four. That's $400,000 of only $8,000 people giving you $50.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Talk about money? Come on, man. You're talking about it. That's why people sit here and be like, you want to go broke, you don't want to do something. Here's how you don't go broke. Here's how you have, you know,
Starting point is 01:13:18 you have shit making money while you sleep. Them EPMD bucket is that's why I'm sleeping. That EPMD shirt is why I'm sleeping. That money comes in while you sleep. We got a new project, brother. Tell the people, man, because you've been philosophical today, so we really want you to talk that music.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Yeah, the music, well... I got one question. I got one question. So you sample Marvin Gaye. Yes. Right? How much did it cost you to sample Marvin Gay? $200,000.
Starting point is 01:13:54 It costed you $200. Right. Because it caught me that, because when Bernard took the CD and went to L.A., he went to a convention that was happening with Clear Channel. They played the record. They added the record. So now they get to stick me up.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Did it too fast. So it was 150 for Jan, God bless it, the wife. And then it was $50,000 for the lawyer. But it didn't matter because Clive gave me $4 million. So that whole thing of how it went, I went to Jay Records afterwards because Clive wanted to sign me. The reason why I bring that up, right? Because Farrell getting sued, he didn't clear it.
Starting point is 01:14:38 He didn't clear it. That's it. What they got sued for, like, $7 million or something? Seven or eight, yeah. Farrell is smart. No, no, no, no. Well, he's kind of, yeah, he didn't interpolated. He interpreted a song.
Starting point is 01:14:51 He did. Listen. He said he didn't know. That was the book, that part. That's... Yeah, he said, yeah. Yo. It's always the thing to say, man, when you get caught.
Starting point is 01:14:59 Yeah. I don't know. It's the smartest thing to say. That's thing you got. But it's the dumbest thing when you know the fucking planet Earth knew he Jack, Marvin Gate. The whole fucking world. When you hear the song, it's the same song.
Starting point is 01:15:14 Same song. Yeah. It's saying, they don't send us no Louie. Yeah. They ain't going to send a shit. No, no, no, no. No, no. Yeah, you know, hold up.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Rewin back one hour. 57 minutes, 36 seconds, take that part out. We ain't doing that. This is interesting. What I'm saying is, if I was around for a while to say, yo, settle with these people because this, it is what it is. He was inspired by them whether he'd do it. Yeah, but listen, you're missing one.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Ed Sherman's shit sound like, let's get it on, and he won. Play Ed Sharon's, Marvin Gay's. Whatever, it sounds just like let's get it on, and he won. Let me tell you some crazy shit. I didn't think he did. to the videotape. No, play the record. I did.
Starting point is 01:15:58 I swear to God, I did. I went when he won just the same way you tell me. Yes, man. I was like, Hey, Sherman and that. And I couldn't really make the same. Yo, yo, yo, yo, this is what, yo, I swear. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Hold on. Hold on. Yo, when I watch this show, is his reactions. Because that one makes it, makes y'all chemistry, I swear, because he leans back and he does this and like, yo, let me tell you something, you know what this is?
Starting point is 01:16:33 This is the honeymoon is where Ralph Grant did and Art Carney. Let's talk about the project now. Let's go. Let's go to the project. Okay, the dynamic duels. So I had it four years ago,
Starting point is 01:16:48 before COVID, I had the idea before you heard nods. I figured that my colleagues wasn't working. I was wondering why nobody was making records, right? So I kind of got upset about that in my head. Like, you know what, fuck it? I'm going to make records for them. If they have studio a problem, nobody making no beat for them, the whole not.
Starting point is 01:17:05 So COVID came, so that took two years off. Kevin came and got me, Kevin Lowell. So we did the partnership at 300. 300. Leo Cohen sells it for $450 million to Atlantic. That took a year and something. That's a nice check. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:22 But isn't that crazy? Leo got 4.50 from Atlantic, which is Mike and Julie, people that he put there. Now, that was the whole play. Keep going. If you didn't figure that one out. So, so. That was the old Olai. Yeah. That was sell to Stilespe's running. Phenomenal. Now, let me sell the Jada kiss records to Stilespeep.
Starting point is 01:17:44 He got the bag over here. He's going to throw you to smithereens. Like, yo, they all ran. And now, and now. Let me tell you something. When he sold that shit. Kevin Lowe's my next door neighbor. Right. It was the first sighting I saw Russell Simmons in like 10 years.
Starting point is 01:18:00 That it was next door. He called me and said, hello. Come next door. Everybody ran off with the back. Their whole crew. They are the best that ever did it. Kevin's Lord of that whole death. Kevin, Leo, Julie, Kaiser, all of them.
Starting point is 01:18:15 They took care of everybody. All of them. Like in the, I mean, bad mania. All of them is K. up to the movie and that. We got Randy Ackerty. But what I'm saying is,
Starting point is 01:18:28 they came in this game and said, all right, this is our crew. And we're going to eat forever. Yeah. Make sure he will eat. Simmons showed up. They were storing like the,
Starting point is 01:18:39 we sold the company for $400 million because they first said it was Kevin Louse. Now, he was saying, Leo Cohen. I'm sure it was. You know what is that Kevin? You know what they were saying, Kevin Lows. Oh.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Kevin Louse threw a party. He lives next door to me. Yeah, of course he did. No, he's, he got money. Trust me, he got... Kevin Liles lives 1A. I'm 1A, he's 1B. His house is right next door to mine.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Wow. Russell Simmons' face-times me out of nowhere. I ain't seen him in 10 years. He said, come over with celebrating Kevin selling the company. I'm letting my fat flow. I got no shirt on, no nothing. I just put a T-shirt on. I go over there, put on my shorts.
Starting point is 01:19:17 I go over there, and they celebrate and I just... The way I think, you know what I mean? The hustling me, I said, damn, this man came over here to pick up the bag. They sold, Russell Simmons came to pick up the bag. They just sold it. Check is in, wires in.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Russell came for fucking Malaysia some shit to get the bag, and he's going back. Everybody's caked up. This is what I'm trying to tell you. Every member of the crew caught something. You know, he has not a sign that deal with Lear.
Starting point is 01:19:55 I had a deal with partners in AI now, but that's another flex. But partners in AI? I went to his crib, right? I looked at a picture on the wall was a baby picture. Me and my man with the baby picture. I said, how much that picture cost in my head? I'm just saying that it might cost whatever. He said, yeah, I paid 12 grand for it, but it's worth $5 million.
Starting point is 01:20:19 It was a picture of a baby. this up, you know, whatever. I want to put this out there, yo, I'm a graffiti legend. I want to meet Vanksy. Who's that? Banksy's the illest artist in the world never shows his fake.
Starting point is 01:20:34 Yo, I don't know what's, I don't know. Okay, listen. He don't believe nothing. Okay, listen. I don't know why. Wait. Okay, listen, let's go back. So, Dynamic Duo.
Starting point is 01:20:45 Yo, listen, listen, listen, listen, let me just get that. Banksy, somebody know Banksy. Fat Joe wants to meet the real Banksy, face to face. I don't rat. I don't nothing. He's an artist. Nobody sees his face. But I'm a huge friend. We don't know where he's at because then we would have found him in the UK.
Starting point is 01:21:04 And it could be in Afghanistan, wherever, my name. Banksy just don't get seen. Okay, with Banksy fat, I don't need you. Okay, one second. Okay, so after that, the shit was three and a half years so far. So now I do the Biggie Smalls-Tupac record, right? So I get Biggie cleared, but the Tupac estate, I offered his sister $100,000. So I give you $100,000.
Starting point is 01:21:27 And you can keep the rights to the record. She didn't say, yeah, I'll say no, but she wasn't coming back fast enough with the reaction. So I'm like, so what's going on? I found that she was going through it with Universal for them using two-part music and making money off of it. In the move? No, just period. Yeah, yeah, that too. So that delayed me.
Starting point is 01:21:49 So by that way as long as I wanted to because I wanted to have that on the project, right? So anyway. I want to say, I don't know how you, I cleared Tupap and his lawyer owns the rights. Yeah, at that time, but now she's suing that. She needs to get it. Like, I did not understand when I was paying the lawyer.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Yeah. I went to every, Bernard called everyone that did the Tupac before with, with, um, the RL shit when you saw the video. Whatever, we went to those people. We went to everybody. Nothing. So that gave more time.
Starting point is 01:22:21 I thought it's mom's fact. She must have left it to the lawyer. I didn't have no clue. I didn't understand that. So how a lawyer Rob Wathomthing's own stupa. Right. So then I had Prodigy, new vocals, the whole nine, so whatever. I called my lawyer, he called, which is, you know, his friend Kevin.
Starting point is 01:22:44 Then I talked to Prodigy's wife on the phone. She sounded like she was saying. Don't worry about it. I'm going to check the record out whatever I get back to you. Right? No call. I'm texting. There's nothing there. You know? So I'm like, so that's a holdup. So I get that late. That took time. I called Sean Price's wife. Then I talked to Drew Ha. Right? She says, call Drew. You know, I've got a Jew number. So, but no, you know, good guy, Jew.
Starting point is 01:23:16 She's called Jew. Drew says, cool. I still took time. Nate Dog estate. I got to call these people and say, too, do you want the money? This is something a thing. It just took time. Eventually, they didn't want nothing. So you see all these people on the album that passed away,
Starting point is 01:23:38 it takes time for the estates. Because don't forget, if they can't find kiss, then we got to wait to find kiss. The estate means everybody on the estate has to say yes if they're on the paper so you can just have one person
Starting point is 01:23:54 or you can have a sample one time it went to the point of like the man's dead we got no more family members and nothing like that we went to the burial type shit they went to the sample the people who cleared the sample
Starting point is 01:24:11 they was like yo he ain't cast a check in 13 years there's no like we was looking like you got to clear these samples because then it's on you if you let them go and they come back
Starting point is 01:24:22 and sue you for that real money. Right. So anyway, all that happened and now is coming December 5th. So again, this is volume 1, right? So volume 1 to... It ain't just everybody who's dead because I heard the record was sold.
Starting point is 01:24:41 No, no, no, no, no. I heard the record was sold. Yeah, but that was a while. That's when they sold 300. I didn't get a chance to get that. That was the first record that came and it's gone now. Oh. But Redden Meth, Snoop Dog, and Nate, Helter Skelter, MOP, Cypress Hills, EPMD, Dogpound, Conway, the Machine, Game, Lil Wayne, MobD.
Starting point is 01:25:08 This is Volume 1. In public enemy, right, volume 1. You sure, I get on values, too, then. Yeah, I got you. I'm Kristen Davis, host of the podcast. Are You a Charlotte? The most anticipated guest from season three is here, The Trey to My Charlotte. Kyle McLaughlin joins me to relive all of the magical Trey and Charlotte moments. He reveals what he thinks of Trey giving Charlotte a cardboard baby.
Starting point is 01:25:41 Why would I bring her a cardboard baby? I was literally, I was like, this doesn't track for me at all. When he found out Trey's shortcomings. I'm kind of excited at talking about, you know, I think he's a guy spends time in Central Park. You know, he's probably, you know, there'll be some surgery stuff, you know. And I was like, all this kind of stuff going on. And they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, fine. And they said, but he's impotent.
Starting point is 01:26:01 And I was like, he's impotent. And why he chose not to return to it just like that. They came and presented an idea. And I was like, I get, I see it. It's so kind of a one joke idea. Right. You don't want to miss this. Listen to Are You a Charlotte on the Iheart radio app.
Starting point is 01:26:17 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What were some of the memories from your U.S.O. tours? Nobody knew who I was, and they were like, why do we have to say hello to this guy? Recently on the Good Stuff podcast, we sat down with our friend Bradley Cooper to talk about family. What is the good stuff to you? I mean, of course it's my daughter. His deep friendship with host Jacob. He was there when I found out that I was going to have a baby, which was incredible.
Starting point is 01:26:41 I remember that. You showed me the picture. You're like, what's that mean? And I was like, oh, my God. Did you ever tell the clinician story on this? Which one? Well, they're the handcuffed. Oh, dude.
Starting point is 01:26:52 And how they've been there for each other through the hard times. You know, I've been lucky enough to have dealt with some issues early on, you know, relatively early on in my life. And I was able to sort of walk Jacob through some stuff. Yeah, next month I'll be eight years clean and sober. You were a big time part of that. I leaned on you real heavy. I think times that you knew and times you didn't know.
Starting point is 01:27:14 Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the Iheart radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's me, Eric Andre, bombing with Eric Andre and Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and the I Heart Radio. We are back with fresh chaos. Our latest episode features Tony Hawk, Rico Nasty, Yamanika Saunders, and Derek Beckles.
Starting point is 01:27:37 Here's a fraction of what happened. This is your worst injury in your career, correct? It's the most traumatic in terms of danger factor and life-threatening, yes. What were the injuries? Fracture skull, broken thumb, fractured pelvis. Look at your phone. Yeah, it changed my signature. I can tell if I signed stuff before or after that.
Starting point is 01:27:56 You got help insurance? I do. I'm not explicitly putting down what I'm doing on insurance forms. Listen to bombing with Eric Andre on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Bombing with Eric Andre. Hey there. Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA Health.
Starting point is 01:28:17 And I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mailroom. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer. And like a lot of guys, I haven't been to the doctor in many years. I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't. Because guys usually don't go to the doctor unless a piece of their face is hanging off or they've broken a bone. Depends which bone. Well, that's true. Every week, we're breaking down the unique world of men's health, from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility and things that happen in the bedroom.
Starting point is 01:28:45 You mean sleep? Yeah, something like that, Jordan. We'll talk science without the jargon and get you real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about. It's going to be fun, whether you're 27, 97, or somewhere in between. Men's Health is about more than six packs and supplements. It's about energy, confidence, and connection. We don't just want you to live longer. We want you to live better.
Starting point is 01:29:08 So check out the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. What up, y'all? It's your boy, Kevin on stage. I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Moment, where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends, people I admire who had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak? And what did they learn from it? I got judged horribly. The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got on the show. Boo. Somebody had tomatoes. I'm kidding. But if they had tomatoes, they would have thrown the tomatoes. Let's be honest. We've all had those moments we'd rather forget. We bumped our head.
Starting point is 01:29:50 We made a mistake. The deal fell through. We're embarrassed. We failed. But this podcast is about that and how we made it through. So when they sat me down, they were kind of like, we got into the small talk. And they were just like, so what do you got? What?
Starting point is 01:30:03 What ideas? And I was like, oh, no. What? Check out Not My Best Moment with me, Kevin on stage, on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast. So this is what I ended up doing through DMs. And everybody who I kind of called or DM, everybody says yes, some didn't say. But again, I was able to get stuff started at the time.
Starting point is 01:30:32 And then certain people, like I called Dougie Fresh and Rick first. That's what I really want to do because I was trying to do. I'm going to do the show in my head all over. again, my way and my version. So, but, um, and I, I, I talked to Andre 2000 way early, all for them $100,000 too. But, but, um, I did UGK, I did Abol, MJG. I did Nordy.
Starting point is 01:30:58 These are names are, I did Smith & Westin. I got this already on that too for the back. And then you got the people too that you want to do, caught the locks, way and goes black star, Sue, that's already, you know, that you, trying to get to make sure I'm covering the bases up. But before Nas did this, Joe, I was trying to bring my colleagues just to say,
Starting point is 01:31:22 you don't got to stop making records. But then time went by, and now Massapil did what they did. So now everybody's working now. But, you know, so. But he ain't always good, though. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, everybody working, everybody ain't always good.
Starting point is 01:31:39 Right. Right. The plug-in, man, we got something to play. He bought us up. M-O-P. Oh, my God. Frankie Crock of that shit, James. They got the AC on the last.
Starting point is 01:31:50 Nah, it's just M-O-P. You know the AC is on, like, jail level. Sidewalk executive. No, you go in jail. That's chick. You know, they're never going to go as sidewalk executives. Who calls them, who called himself that? ...sidewalk executive.
Starting point is 01:32:10 Yeah Round round Come on Eric Sherman Smok my moat my things It's guns up when we pull up Can we ride
Starting point is 01:32:33 Round fill and you don't want to collide This is street certified Fire off weapons in Nika you fucking with the sidewalks I didn't play my part Dunke gave my heart Through my career done made my mark Imagine where I'm from
Starting point is 01:32:47 Nobody walked faster than a nigga Going to get his imaginary After getting his ass beat up I'm M-O-Ped up from feet up I'm shit up Live from the marks How about the back seat holding my nuts
Starting point is 01:33:00 S-5 something double park I kick it with the young as every bastard on the block Hold on a black Hold on a drop You want for E-dub, bring that Gaddy back, Nick. Hey, they get told him, oh, my God. I don't think they're listening for the years. Round, round, round, round, fill.
Starting point is 01:33:26 Come on. Eric Sherman. Much, my, my, love, my things. Much final life, baby. Much final life. It's good job. Look, then we ride. Browns fill and you don't want to collide.
Starting point is 01:33:41 This is street certified. Fire off weapons in. Nigga, you fucking with the sidewalk executive. I done played my part. Dunn gave my heart through my career. Done made my mark. Imagine where I'm from. Nobody walked faster than a nigga going to get his imaginary gun.
Starting point is 01:33:58 After getting his ass beat up, I'm M-O-Ped up. From feet up, I'm cheat up. Live from the marks. How about the back seat, holding my nuts? S-5 something double-part. I kick it with the youngies. Every bastard on a blocker shooter. So you see your lawyer laughing with the prostities.
Starting point is 01:34:13 This works for Edub. Bring a guy back. Nick, knack, paddy, whack. Get you in your daddy class. It's gun's up when we pull up. Then we ride. Amo. Grand Phil and you don't want to collide.
Starting point is 01:34:23 This is street certified. Fire off represent. Nigga, you fucking with the sidewalk. Exactly. It's guns up when we pull up. Then we ride. Emot. Grand Phil and you don't want to collide.
Starting point is 01:34:33 This is street certified. Fire off purpose in. Nigger, you fucking with the sidewalks I used to be flex When I text So everybody know me Images of the 5, 5, 5, 6 is my emoji The bigger homie
Starting point is 01:34:45 He does He told me he can show me A different route to the bag And I ain't got to have a magnum on me New York hip hop For you T swag on me Resumay on display You can't put a flag on
Starting point is 01:34:54 A million dollar flow No, that's the Beepu champ I'm max capital with a deeper tan I give you cap It's like he shipped to reap a hand I still have staff meetings With killers in the band
Starting point is 01:35:05 At rap shows We the guerrillas in the stand Act up and get tackled in front of your fans You're a flusy You move loosely, boozy I'm in the eye rock Triple black bucket hat Oooooey
Starting point is 01:35:16 You know niggas gonna move me Negative Sidewalk executive Star to move It's guns up When we pull up Then we ride Grand Phil and you don't want to collide
Starting point is 01:35:25 This is street certified Fire all represent Nigger you fucking with the sidewalk Executive It's guns up When we pull up Then we ride In our field and you don't want to collide
Starting point is 01:35:35 and you don't want to collide. This is street certified. Fire off-represent. Nigger, you fucking with the sidewalk executive. Browns, Browns, Brownsville, y'all. Oh, Crownsville, y'all. Jake. That was fucking beautiful.
Starting point is 01:35:55 Billy and Fame. That shit was incredible, brother. I take Billy in Fame every time, man. I know. You have the excitement. I had a great time at this show, y'all. People that's watching this. to be on this sofa and to be with two,
Starting point is 01:36:08 again, it doesn't matter, man. Like, successfulness, Joe, you, we were to sit back and be like, yo, damn, he got another one or he got another one. Because in this, to come back and do every decade, don't forget, this is a decade from the 90s, 2000s, and then the late, so it's three decades of still being able to be relevant
Starting point is 01:36:27 and still be able to say you was dropping music and not just regular shit. This was big records being made. It was hard to do that. People said, too, how did Eric be able to come back and come back with music from EPMD, 1988 to 2001?
Starting point is 01:36:43 You know, that's a, that's, people don't do that. That's a feat to be doing that. You know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, though, you know, again, this shit right here is, is what people talked about,
Starting point is 01:36:53 what they also felt on the sofa. Like, this is a show that you guys, listen, man, you're my boys, but it's different shows. Y'all came up fast. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, we're not,
Starting point is 01:37:05 No, it was fast. People probably thought regular, those niggas be hating. That shit ain't going to work. They definitely was saying that. I know, nigga, I'm one of the, I'm telling you I was out there. I watched the bombiest guys to the richest guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:21 I know what all the motherfuckers are saying. I was watching them. Nobody was believing. They were like, arts thing ain't going to work. It ain't going to work. I knew it would. You want to know why? Because we respect the culture.
Starting point is 01:37:32 We respect. Yeah, but it was the personalities. about those two don't hang together and they don't talk the way I look at this I look at this no different than Shaquille O'Neill
Starting point is 01:37:44 I'm Charles Barkley McKinney Smith Oh okay He really played the game And we respect and salute The legends on another level You understand what I'm saying Like I used to watch these hip-hop documentaries
Starting point is 01:37:58 and they have guys on there commentating like they knew And I'm like I don't know you And I got to know everybody. Oh, love, you got the locks? Jay's like, what are you talking about? Because if I couldn't get them that way, you was going to get them.
Starting point is 01:38:17 Exactly. Vocals, they laid down somewhere. Damn, chest. You see that, man? Mawfucking making up the pasta noops. Dirty, don't. They doing you. Hey, yo, but listen, it was just my version of it, Joe,
Starting point is 01:38:32 until I get it to happen. I had to make certain things. I ain't going to lie to you. I don't want to die, but they definitely have a hundred Fat Joe versus in different studios out there that I just did one day
Starting point is 01:38:45 and kept them moving, knowing that they would benefit off of it. I've done winning regular bullshit studios, Kix 16, broke out. That's almost like, here you go. This is a retirement. So when, you know,
Starting point is 01:38:57 fat Joe's out of here and they put together the pasty shit, you know y'all got some shit y'all can make a couple of dollars off that shit you know what I'm saying you know how motherfucking put the shit together I'm gonna bring out I'm DJ Zaddy Black pull out your verse from Fat Joe
Starting point is 01:39:14 one dollar fella pull out your verse you got a couple of dollars cover your way they all looking like huh he knows we kept that shit yeah I know you Hey kiss you probably won't even remember and nobody's going to know because there's a record that again it didn't go you know so I could have
Starting point is 01:39:31 asked them and said, yo, and it still would have been like, oh shit, you heard that new, you know what I'm saying? I couldn't did that. But again,
Starting point is 01:39:39 but now, sisters, you know, whatever, it is what is. I'm going to play for shit and giggles. B. G.
Starting point is 01:39:46 Yes, that was dope. B. So you didn't hear that yet? No. Yeah. Well, I'm not talking about that.
Starting point is 01:39:54 I was talking about the only thing in the history of life I didn't appreciate was like, thing he after he, Nah, they was making... Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:03 Yeah, I know, I know. All type of shit, I was just like... Same vocals, though. I know. Oh, same shit with the two words. Yeah, different. They freestyled in the radio and changed two of them. Mind they like that.
Starting point is 01:40:14 And they do it there, that shit. You're not going to believe when you hear my shit. You're going to think them two was in it together. They're rap to the beat. Fucking legend. Yeah, this is called... It's called Where You At? Feastering the locks.
Starting point is 01:40:31 Which is a good. Which rapper want to smile on their neck, you a cop sucker. You ain't say styles. It's the best I'm disgusting. What up then? Start the discussion. It ends as a homie. That's the body in Hudson.
Starting point is 01:40:49 Lucky to be found by the riffle patrol. He a piece of shit. Flush and fuck, digging a hole. Which rapper said he the best. Tell him ghost city's the bitch. And told him to say less and give him my address. Yeah, the top 10 niggins is. officer chasbest put my blaze to their skin and stretch it like spying dex but now i'm on some
Starting point is 01:41:06 entrepreneur shit spot seats in the car can the guard full of that raw shit at least a sip violate hit him with at least a clip knocked out his eyeballs he ain't even peep the shit ghost numb like me on cocaine and ether mix simply don't give a fuck cool one to refil it on it where you at we're at we're at at aloax see block where you're at right here though don't you hear them three letters you know that they represent it I could go anywhere As long as I got the coast I do it for the east
Starting point is 01:41:35 As long as I got the coast Go out on my shield As long as I got my oath Hip can never be dead Long as I got a post Whoa man back That's the kiddie sex I want to fly on the wall
Starting point is 01:41:45 At the biggie session Soaked it all up And spit it out with aggression Felt away about it Every sense with affection You better believe That the bottles is on deck A's glue cookies
Starting point is 01:41:56 Gelado is on deck Never sober is never over Never roll out 21 deep 11 rovers head and shoulders That's where they point them things At play in the game See how many heads we could bring back
Starting point is 01:42:08 Yeah, at least it be all thinning When you hear them three letters You know that they represented L-O-X Where you're at right here, though? Yo, where you're at? L-O-X Steve Locke
Starting point is 01:42:19 Where you had to be right here, dog When you hit them three letters You know that they represent it Do you remember that verse? You don't even remember it, right? You know, sometimes I go overseas and they have an after party and they start playing Fat Joe Records.
Starting point is 01:42:43 I swear to God, I sit there like, I don't remember them shit. They'd be playing shit. I'd be like, where do that? But everybody that played heard you just now and you watch the room, niggas is like, what is that? That shit was incredible.
Starting point is 01:42:58 Again, the rhymes was fan, But again, I could have. But I didn't want to do that because, again, I know how artists be too, yo. I did that before. I said, I know that. But it's a new record to everybody who didn't hear. I want Eric Sherman to produce my album.
Starting point is 01:43:15 Take my whole shit. Are you going to play golf low? Want to cheat, though. Give him the motherfuck it. Just the last one, we're going to go. We got to go. You got to go, Eric Sherman. But this is a low vibration of what I would do.
Starting point is 01:43:29 This is Conway, the Machine. little wane in game. It's going to be kind of long because it's slow, too. But it's the vibe, that's all. It's over. Everything starts from now. We all go down unless we stay together.
Starting point is 01:43:45 Ain't one man above the crew. You know that shit. I ain't shit. I ain't never going to be shit. You remember that, motherfucker. God mode, new God flow. I'm God's son, 12 goose of my apostles. When I air a sermon is gospel.
Starting point is 01:43:59 My blow leave a pretty good. bitch with a snot nose my blow leave a nigger chest with a pie hole congo gorilla like i'm from congo i go on a raptor and velasso i sold on caloceums my name colosso my holes doritos homie that's nachos kondos on the top floors pecosos hanging up on the walls at all of my spots though yo bitch my dick smack in the tonsos my fans be moshin like they at rock shows My man had a button on a high pole My yams, the guard cook on a high stove Spread the ticket that self-witch is just the cop clothes
Starting point is 01:44:36 What's saying, nigga? Now I saw it coming like a bright voice I could see the future with my eyes close These verses like some scriptures in the Bible On the Bible I'm in Godmode Highway to heaven no pot holes I put you on that highway to heaven
Starting point is 01:44:54 Take the high road God knows I'm weathering the storm still in dry clothes Still got my foot on niggas necks, my nigger five toes. Got shahos coming out their shells like tacos. Got dotholes selling pussy wholesale like Tascos. I still come with served like Roscoe, and I got those chickens in the trunks with no waffle. That's blanco. Peanut collada.
Starting point is 01:45:13 I'm your cocaine a parrida. It's sweet as vagina. Trap house jumping like the Ramada. I like the Rwana. Get high into I fear and Urbana. In Cyprus, I vomit. These rappers are biting like dime. And time is an issue.
Starting point is 01:45:25 When I send a peck out, it's a missile. Dog fool I can turn the trap house To a kennel Brickman In Miami they're calling me Brickle If you five
Starting point is 01:45:34 I won't charge you a knickle Work Never saw it coming Like a blindfold But I could see the future With my eyes close His first is like some scriptures In the Bible
Starting point is 01:45:43 On the Bible I'm a guy mo Last gangsta rap are live I swear to God against all lives The only nigga that show up This shit What I described My presence is fit
Starting point is 01:45:53 Heart rates rise When my essence Appear No Stephen A Smith Hey, I don't wear my hat open my ears, nigger. My influence on these rap niggas like Hennessy. And if we're on the same song, till it fade out you, my enemy. Lee Harvey and Kennedy, dome shot, and I mean that shit like saucy Santana, trying to pull up my academics big, so stop playing.
Starting point is 01:46:10 Like a one hit wonder's first song, for I take you back to the old game with the ballhead and the shirt long. I'm gonna be here after the earth gone. When the ocean dry up, weighing out fish, girl, smoking herb till all the dirt gone. Fuck you new, niggas. You making a spot high. You ain't gonna last for long. It's like you shot.
Starting point is 01:46:26 Hate her to love it, the underdog still in a drop top. And no boom, French kissing some in one of the Beasel crop tops. Two Cubans around my neck like I got the work. Your last album saw 20,000 the first week, that got to hurt. That's why I listened to Brent Fias and pop a perk, but not before I call there. Some, and make sure we got the verse. Never saw it coming like a blindfold, but I could see the future when my eyes close. These verses like some scriptures in the Bible.
Starting point is 01:46:51 On the Bible, I'm in God, Mo. Listen to D.T. Vessels. Big time, big time, big time. December 5th, the album is called. Dynamic duo. Dynamic duo. Put the mob deep on. Then don't even if you're like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:11 This ain't that? That ain't this. Brack and kiss. Give it up for each, sir, man. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Hey, it's Eric Andre.
Starting point is 01:47:29 You won't believe what happened on the latest episode of bombing with Eric Andre. First time I tried to land 900, I fell forward, broke my rib, and I was late to pick up my son at preschool. Wow. Our latest episode features Tony Hawk, Rico Nasty, Yamanika Saunders, and Derek Beckles. Listen to bombing with Eric Andre on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Coming with Eric Andre. Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA,
Starting point is 01:48:01 and I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mail Room. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer. And like most guys, I haven't been to the doctor in way too long. I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't. Every week, we're breaking down the world of men's health from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility. We'll talk science without the jargon and get your real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about. So check out the Mailroom on the Eye Heart Radio app,
Starting point is 01:48:25 Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your favorite shows. What up, y'all? It's your boy, Kevin on stage. I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Moment, where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends, people I admire who had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak?
Starting point is 01:48:46 And what did they learn from it? I got judged horribly. The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got on the show. Check out, Not My Best Moment. with me kept on stage on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts. Podcasters, it's time to get the recognition you deserve.
Starting point is 01:49:04 The IHeart Podcast Awards are coming back in 2026. Got a mic? Then you've got a shot. Every year, we celebrate the most creative, compelling, and game-changing voices in podcasting. Is that you? Submit now at iHeartPodcastawards.com for a chance to be honored on the biggest stage in the industry. Deadline December 7th. This is your chance.
Starting point is 01:49:25 Let's celebrate the power of podcasting and your place in it. Enter now at iHeartPodcastawards.com. I'm Kristen Davis, host of the podcast. Are You a Charlotte? The most anticipated guest from season three is here, The Trey to My Charlotte. Kyle McLaughlin joins me to relive all of the magical Trey and Charlotte moments. He reveals what he thinks of Trey giving Charlotte a cardboard baby and why he chose not to return to end up.
Starting point is 01:49:55 like that. You listen to Are You a Charlotte on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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