Joe and Jada - Eve on DMX & Ruff Ryders, Dr. Dre & Aftermath & her tour with Ja Rule & Nelly

Episode Date: August 5, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by Eve, the Philadelphia hip hop legend and Ruff Ryders' First Lady. She tells Joe and Jada about her early career getting dropped from Dr. Dre's Aftermath label to fin...ding herself on Ruff Ryders Entertainment alongside DMX and The Lox. They reminisce on the golden era of 1990s rap when people would rush to the store rather than listen to everything on Spotify and Apple. Joe and Jada also ask her about her current tour with Ja Rule, Nelly, and Chingy; what she thinks about the modern era of female rappers like Cardi B, Doechii, and Latto; and her acting career with her television projects 'Eve' and 'Queens.' 3:15 - Joe is convinced Eve is a billionaire 9:00 - Moving from Philly to the UK 13:30 - Tour with Ja Rule, Nelly & Chingy 21:15 - Jada's keeping Joe out the asylum 28:00 - Does Eve get enough credit? 36:15 - Jada missed out on his 'Queens' role 39:00 - Cardi, Doechii & modern streaming era 43:45 - Getting dropped from Aftermath [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] 48:30 - DMX storiesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:57 My shoulder hurt from leaning back. I'm trying to tell you the truth. Why nobody feels sorry for me? Lean back, lean back. It always hurts. Yo Eve, you see what I gotta do? Yes, oh my God. This guy's crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Wow. What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up?
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Starting point is 00:02:23 What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up y'all? This is Joe Crack the Dawn. It's your boy Jada. You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. Without no further ado, we got my sister on today's episode. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for the lovely Evie Eve. What's up?
Starting point is 00:02:42 What's up y'all? Thank y'all for having me. Yo, Eve, what's good, girl? I'm chilling. Thank y'all? Thank y'all for having me. Y'all, Eve, what's good, girl? I'm chilling. Thank y'all for having me. Thank you for showing up. Of course.
Starting point is 00:02:52 You know what I mean? We've been having a little bit of this Everyone's gonna show up. Yeah, they, I don't know if it's tardiness. I don't know if it's hate, but we've been having a little bit of, they don't realize the privilege of the blue couch. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:08 No, I'm happy to be here. We appreciate you so kindly. Well, I think we got to set up some. If you miss Joe and Jada, she's a billionaire. Right. Crack. What are you talking about? Can we do this? Can we slow down? I'll do my shit. How are we talking about? Can we do this? Can we? Can you slow down? I'll do my shit.
Starting point is 00:03:26 How are we starting that? Slow down. How are we starting? Where are you? What's happening? Don't let him get you. Don't let him down. Slow down.
Starting point is 00:03:34 We gotta invent something for when they miss our show. It gotta be six months to a year before you can even. You gotta go David Stern. This is a privilege. You know what I mean? Y'all getting that real today. He got that with got Eve. I mean, I got crack ready to go into a fight. We're not going to do that. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:04:10 How's life? Life's good. Life's good. I'm happy. How's motherhood? How's marriage? Brotherhood is great. Marriage is great. When are you going to invite us to one of the races? Then come. Please. It's in America next year. Definitely. Did you think Miami% Miami to Mexico City.
Starting point is 00:04:26 You should do it. Oh, man. And what they drive all the way to Mexico City? Yeah. Yeah. Drive all the way. He's my business. Don't talk to him about no money without me.
Starting point is 00:04:38 No, it's no money. What you talking about? Do you want to get involved? I was going to ask. If you got a check? It's no check. What is we talking about? These guys crazy. It's a nice drive.
Starting point is 00:04:52 It's a nice drive. What do they drive? Whatever you want. Whatever you want. Some people do super cars. Some people do literally whatever you want. Like some people into buses. It doesn't matter. Some people into with their drivers, like it's up to whatever experience you want is whatever.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Yeah. So being a- From the smokey and the bend, it's like that's fire. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's a good way to say it actually. Yeah. Okay, so now being that you're a billionaire. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Where, who, where did you get this information? I am not, I am not. You know, I dress rehearsed like four or five times today. It was in my closet with my stylist because I'm like, yo, she's a Billy coming up. Oh, my God. And I took it light. I got the main shit in it. I said, finally, I said, you know what? I know Eve too long. I ain't got a stunt like that, even though she a Billy and all that.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Oh, my God. You know what I'm saying? Where's Mr. Femmings? Because I was coming Billy proof, like, you know, I was going to look at that. Yes. With that other shit. You know what I'm saying? That's nuts, yo. And so is there a question behind? What's the question behind this?
Starting point is 00:05:58 We should just throw the bikes down now, right? We should just. But I wonder why you still work as hard because you on tour. Yes. Right. Yes. What's wrong with her? You sold a catalog. What's wrong with her? What's wrong? Don't believe that. First of all, we all in the same game. We're all in the same business. Don't believe everything you read, which is why I'm here.
Starting point is 00:06:21 We can't ask questions. Don't believe everything you read. First of all, I'm a work because I love to work. I've always worked. Like period, point blank. Like you can't never take that away. And I want- So you wanna see the fans or you wanna get out the house? Sometimes I gotta get out the house.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I want both. I wanna see the fans. I'ma shit like a Saint Silent when I'm up in there for two days straight. I wanna see the fans. I wanna get out the house and I wanna take my son on the road. My son is with me on the road.
Starting point is 00:06:43 That's fire. You know what I mean? So why not do the thing that I love and show my son what his mother does and who she is besides being just his mother? Wow. I mean, that was beautiful. Any questions you got so much? I got a lot after you get out of the bank. I know what the streets want to know. They want to know what the streets want to know. I'm outside.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Yeah, I'm outside. I know what they want to know. They sitting there, they say, there Eve come from Philly. Yes, all day. She paid her dues, she come all the way from the bottom. Now she in the UK across the pond. Her man, the alleged Billy.
Starting point is 00:07:17 He's not. Well, that's the shit they be saying. They want to hear her say it. He's not. I never said it. That's perception. That's a perception. So people just making shit up.
Starting point is 00:07:27 People just making shit up, like you. Exactly. My shit factual. It's not, though. It's not, though. It's not factual. Oh, no, no, no. I don't know factually if he's a Billy.
Starting point is 00:07:39 That's what he said. They've been working with the deputy. That's factual. The facts are coming from me. It don't hurt. Let me ask you another question. Your husband, he's white, he's Caucasian. You ever had like whenever we watched these
Starting point is 00:07:54 Tyler Perry movies, what's the matter? What am I saying wrong? I don't know what you're about to say. You know the Tyler Perry movie when they have Christmas and they bring the white boyfriend and everybody looking at him like he's crazy. You know these movies. You ever been?
Starting point is 00:08:09 So all your questions so far are based off of non-factual information and Tyler Perry movies. Where am I? What's going on? Let me tell you something, Eve. I just shoot the shit. I come off the top, I'm shooting the shit. And the streets love it.
Starting point is 00:08:24 You want to start the interview this way? You want to know if it was uncomfortable? I'll be over here listening to you. It's like, guess who's coming to dinner? Yes! Was it uncomfortable? Was it uncomfortable? No, it wasn't, because when,
Starting point is 00:08:36 which made me fall in love with him even more, because when I brought him home to the hood, he was good. He was good. And he's fine. And he loves it. It was good, too. Everybody was good, because they saw how he treated me
Starting point is 00:08:46 and they saw that he wasn't trippin'. I couldn't be with somebody who would be uncomfortable around where I come from. My brother's right over there. He's good, right? He's good. Like, you know. Of course he's good.
Starting point is 00:08:56 He's a fucking Billy. He's not! We just, we just, we just. Yo, listen, let me tell you something. You coming from the trenches of Philly and moving to the UK. I think before you lived in New York, Cali, everywhere. Nah, it's different. It was definitely different.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I wasn't adjusting. Yeah, it was hard. It still kind of is. I love, I consider it home now. I've been there 11 years now. Oh, yeah. So I consider it home. My son was born there. I consider it home, but it is very different.
Starting point is 00:09:24 So when I come back to America, like New York or Philly, it does, it feels like home. It's definitely adjustment. They're different. They're different, but it's dope. It's a dope city. Eleven years. Over there, you gotta learn how to fight with a knife. There ain't guns out there like that. You gotta shut up. Cunning him. It's okay. They say it's a lot of knife crime. It't guns out there like that. You gotta, shot in him. You gotta bring out a machete to them. It's okay, they say it's a lot of knife crime.
Starting point is 00:09:47 It is, it is. They do a lot of honking. You gotta bring out a machete out there. They do a lot of honking over there. They do, that's real, that's real. But I mean, it's a good time to be, you know, the UK rap scene is biggest it ever been. Yo, you gotta stop.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Always ready. Yo! I'm ready. Yo! I'm ready. Yo! I'm ready. He's ready. ready. Yo! I'm ready. He's ready.
Starting point is 00:10:07 I gotta have this for you talking. You need to talk to him about that. Yeah, I gotta have it. I gotta hold you down. Jesus Christ. Rich, I gotta hold. Might take law for you and MacGyver the creatures. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:10:21 I gotta hit something for MacGyver. Well, the UK rap scene is big out there. Yeah, it is. It is. It's dope. I think they finally found their thing, because I think, yeah, I think years ago they tried to emulate and copy what America does as the blueprint,
Starting point is 00:10:36 and it didn't sound right. And now I feel like they created their own highway. They sound good. Yeah, it's great. It's great. Yeah. How's the tour going? The tour's good so far. We've only. Yeah, it's great. It's great. Yeah. How's the tour going? The tour's good so far.
Starting point is 00:10:46 We've only done how many shows? Three. Four? We done four shows. We done four shows. You did overseas though. I did Europe first. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:54 You know I'm thinking like why this rich girl is on this. Cause I like money. All right, okay. I like checks. So if there's, I wouldn't be doing it if it wasn't a check involved. I wouldn't be doing it if the check wasn't right. So, there's, I wouldn't be doing it if it wasn't a check involved. I wouldn't be doing it if the check wasn't right. So, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:11:09 How many, what, what? Can I ask you a question? Why do people think, that's the problem I feel like I got with the perception of my life, that I married this person. Like, first of all, nobody ever saved me. I saved myself. All the time, I can never finish. Y'all get my own money.
Starting point is 00:11:25 But I'm not saying I'm not saying that. The perception also, though, is as a woman. So what? Like, if I want to stop working, my man wouldn't care. But why would I do something I don't that I love? Like, why? Yeah. You know what I mean? Because I think it's just me. Like, no, no, I'm I'm trying to find a way for me not to work no more. I swear to God.
Starting point is 00:11:46 No, but I understand that. I understand that. I really believe that. I feel like if I ask you a question, I was going to. But also, I think ultimately. What's up? We can crack the bank. Man, we can never be able to stop working no matter what happens. You know that.
Starting point is 00:12:04 That's why Rich is over there. So I have some money right now. to stop working no matter what happens. You know that. That's why Rich is over there. So I have some money right now. We selling hair product, rum, weed, everything. So I want to chill. So I'm letting y'all know that Joe want to chill. Come see me. Bahamas eating a mango with a bikini. It's like this.
Starting point is 00:12:24 But it would be like, wait, wait, wait, wait. Bahamas eating a mango with a with a bikini shit corn like this. What? No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. And I think you might have said, maybe you said the wrong. Yeah, yeah. I don't mean the bikini. Yeah, I don't mean the bikini. Maybe you said, yeah, we're in a wrong. Yeah, you can't say that wrong. Listen, bro. You gotta say what you.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Nah, that's how I speak to La Hoya. Oh man, Blizzy's bikinis. Yo, but listen. Come on. No, no, no, no. Blizzy's in bikinis. I met my lady in the bikini. Oh, you might need to open up a little hut.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Blizzy's in bikinis. My lady in the bikini. Lady in the bikini. Me and my little shorts, but I want y'all to come and see me eating a mango for no reason when you pull up. They be like, Facho live here. When you come,
Starting point is 00:13:05 I'm in the bank with a fucking mango. Why can't, all the years my knees hurt. My shoulder hurt from leaning back. Why can't it be an apple? Stop it. I'm trying to tell you the truth. Why nobody feel sorry for me? Lean back, lean back, it always hurts.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Oh my God. I lean back too much. Yo Eve, you see what I gotta deal with? Yes, oh my God. This guy's crazy. How long is the tour gonna be for? It always hurts. I lean back too much. Yo Eve, you see what I gotta deal with? Yes. Oh my god. This guy's crazy. How long is the tour going to be for? I'm finished in August. They go on until like mid-September.
Starting point is 00:13:34 See, that's the flex right there. She just stopped. She want to stop. Yeah, yeah. Who else is on the tour? Chingy. Chingy starts, I go then. Love G.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Chingy. Nah, he's killing it. Jah, then Nelly. I mean, it hits the whole time. Like literally, it hits the whole time. It's disrespectful. It's disrespectful. Nah, that's a fun, it's, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:53 it's a fun thing when you already know the arena sold out. The vibes is there, everybody coming, because music is so, I wanna say a fancy word, but I don't, synonymous or something. It's just with a time that, you know, girls got their first boyfriend to your music, this, that, and when you in there, you just feel like. No, yeah, we taking people back.
Starting point is 00:14:20 It's definitely nostalgic. It's definitely nostalgic. And I think obviously, because we older, we've done it. Like we're all happy to be there. You can tell we're all happy to be there. We're not here by like choice, by force. Right. Exactly. The different kind of fluidity when you go out there
Starting point is 00:14:35 from back in the day. Exactly. When you had to do it. You felt like somebody was making you do it. Yeah. Again, that's another reason why I'm working. If that was about to come up. Nah, it's fun because I just recently did a big show where it was me, Ross, Bow Wow, and
Starting point is 00:14:55 Soulja Boy. Oh, dope. And so I don't know if you know I'm afraid to fly even though I fly three, four. What? I didn't know that. It was a time I ain't fly for 15 years, but the only guy more scared than me historically was Bow Wow. We went on tour together and the man was sitting next to me. Bow Wow bugged out. Y'all think I'm bugged out? He all the way fried, right? So he come sit next to me on purpose in the plane.
Starting point is 00:15:19 So we feel a bump. He like, oh, like trying to out scare me. Not out scare. Out scare me on the plane. Like, bro, I'm fucking terrified. You can't out scare me on this plane, right? So I go like this, so we going to North Dakota. I don't know about you.
Starting point is 00:15:33 I've never been in North Dakota. Not in 30 years of rapping. So I've never been there, right? So I bow, I was DMing him. Yo son, North Dakota, what we gonna do? This, that, you got the private, you got the disc. Are we out the same night? So he was giving me like, yo, are we getting the fuck
Starting point is 00:15:51 out of here immediately after this show? I'll check in with you with the plane. Like, let's get it. It was the nicest place, the greatest fans. They treated us great. We went to a restaurant for dinner. They paid for all our steaks. These was the nicest people. Great. Great sunset.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I'm being honest. North Dakota, we love you. It was beautiful. How about you got to take? There's no way. If you don't go private, there's no way to go straight to North Dakota. So we got to fly to Minnesota. Then we got to take a little plane to North. There's nowhere around. Listen, how about I know premeditated,
Starting point is 00:16:26 he told me four days ahead and I was stressed out every day just thinking about the little plane. Cause I'm not cool with privates, I'm not cool with no little plane. How about when I pull up to the little plane, front row sitting right next to me is little Bow Wow. He got it, I said, what the fuck is this about? Like, why you got to sit there?
Starting point is 00:16:46 Joe Bow Wow was good. Yo, yo, Joe, North Dakota. This I'm going to sit next to him. I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I had to sit next to him. But I looked at him, the flight. He was texting. He was on his phone. I was listening to music. We landed soon as we landed. I said, Yo, bro, he said, Yo, you got much better at flying.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I said, You got much better. Oh, my God. But North Dakota, we landed I said yo bro he said yo you got much better at flying I said you got much better at flying. Oh my god. But North Dakota. North Dakota shout out to North Dakota. I never been so now I want to go. You got North beautiful. 1030 at night is still a sunset.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Oh. 1030 at night 1030 p.m. they still at the sun. The weather's. Cotton candy was beautiful. Everything was nice out there so he's like that's why you can't judge a book by its cover. I was like, damn, what's in North Dakota? Because we never been out there. What's up with Actives?
Starting point is 00:17:32 You gonna do anything? What you got? Not right now, not right now. And if I did go back, I kinda wanna go back from the other side of the camera, like production. I can see that. Yeah, I like that side. You had your own sitcom.
Starting point is 00:17:45 How'd I feel to have to be able to flex that many? I don't think I even, I don't think we realized what that was. That's what I was about to say. I don't, I, no, now I think about it. You was doing shit way before. You was doing big. That was crazy. I know.
Starting point is 00:18:02 I know, I didn't think about it back then. That was crazy. Now you looking at you like, yo, you said your baby, yo, you know, mommy had her own show. Yeah, he could put it on TV One and let them look at some old episodes. Yep, it is crazy. Now the dynamic with you being the first lady
Starting point is 00:18:18 of Rough Riding, what was that like when they came to you and they said, yo, we signing this girl, her name is Eve from Philly. Did you hear of her first or did they just brought her on you? No, when they bought it, they already had like. They had an OI itinerary of what they had planned for. And then she came from Dre. So any any affiliation with Dre is like a plus for you anyway.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Yeah. But I think I was- And she came right in. It was never no issues though. Yeah. She hit the- She fit just like Tetris. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:55 She connected right with us. She was just a feed man. Yeah. It was never- Ever. It was never ever anything ever. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:03 100%. So you grew up with a bunch of dudes? I was a tomboy. Like I always was a tomboy. So I always felt comfortable around dudes. And but they everybody like was great. Like I always say, I think I was the luckiest like female like in the industry being around. Definitely the luckiest female in the industry.
Starting point is 00:19:22 But you know, Remy, she got lucky, too. She did. You know what I'm saying? Like, Remy, she got lucky too. She did. You know what I'm saying? Like she's our sister still to this day. Of course. Definitely. And we family, her daughter's my goddaughter. We always treated her with nothing but respect.
Starting point is 00:19:34 But she's also a girl that grew up with a bunch of boys and was just right at home. That leg look like it's getting strong. You better stop fucking with my leg. Let me tell you something. What is it? You wanna know what's crazy? I'm at my store.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Nah, they think I got the stinky leg, but it's okay. My shit fly. What? Y'all Eve. Y'all Eve. My shit fly like a shirt. I'm not letting him. You see his leg like a shirt.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Let me tell you something. I'm just looking at the calf. It's looking nice. That is awesome. I don't know what's happening. I get this from the streets. Look at that, That is awesome. I don't know what's happening. I get this from the streets. Look at that, E.
Starting point is 00:20:07 It looks good. It's my business partner. I don't know what's going on. You might get touched in rim, right? I don't know. This is me having fun in my legs. Why? These is rich fucking legs.
Starting point is 00:20:15 They look rich. This shit just shiny all the time. This shit is rich fucking legs. This shit look like I'm in the Baltic Sea. Fucking Royal Weddings in Duvall. Like this is some real, they wish they had my legs. You could be cock diesel legs. You wish you had this type of shit.
Starting point is 00:20:34 We walk with God, the squad and T. Don't let them tell you. Not the Baltic Sea. All I did was give him a compliment. Your calf is looking like he was doing some calf race. I was trying to explain to him, I said, yo, listen, these, you wish you had these legs. Gonna be honest with you guys,
Starting point is 00:20:57 if you could have seen the shit these legs have seen, this ain't the type of, this ain't what you want, bro. They look great to me. Thank you. They look great. You know your man, your man's in the eyes, Jada. I tell Jada, I say, Jada, I'm trying to get you 100 million. He say, yo, I'm trying to keep you out that insane asylum.
Starting point is 00:21:19 You're going crazy up here, bro. What's wrong with you? That really, that touched me. When I watched the repeat. When you thought about it. I said, yo, this guy, we think about not to bring it up unless it's like somebody in our real life, of Wendy Williams, who was a powerhouse media.
Starting point is 00:21:39 They really gassed it like she's crazy and took her bread. She had about a hundred million, bro, owning productions at a TV show and all that. It's like, they done it to somebody. So you might be saving me. It's doable, I ain't gonna let them talk to you, baby. You ain't going. You might be saving me from that same asylum.
Starting point is 00:21:57 It's real. How old is your son? Three. Oh, man, I only get to see him on social media and you ain't bring him to see Uncle Kesha when he come to America. He's here though. Oh no, I gotta see him before y'all get outta here, man.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Well, yeah, he here. You know what I'm saying? He's three years old. He's three. Man, that's amazing, man. They grow up so fast. Too fast. You know, my daughter, my youngest, she's 19.
Starting point is 00:22:20 My oldest over there. Look, same something age. Hi. I was just having him in the rough ride. He think we crazy too. He think y'all crazy too? Of course. I just, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:31 He think we all the way crazy. He's like, yo, I'm going to wait till this train self-destruct. This here like, yo, Fat Joe, he's crazy. I think you, you still safe. Like, people don't think you crazy. Like, you've been out there. No, no, no, no, I'm saying if we can't. Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:22:47 If we cancel the show today, you will still walk out of here to say Jadakiss. I am the Cap King, a liar. Oh, no. A story evangelist. Yo, I done sacrificed. No. Is this what people saying about you? We got the most lit show in the game. Why you think I'm here?
Starting point is 00:23:07 I know, sis, but what you gotta understand is, you remember people, as much people would love Floyd Mayweather, half of them hated. They wanna see him get knocked out, but he had that defense that showed the world. So these guys, they wanna see Joe crack self-destruct from all these. But when I tell them I'm the God crack Kim,
Starting point is 00:23:26 I will show them a picture of me 15 years old with the Kofi on. And then if you swipe left, I got the Metra. Just so you know, you might have robbed the gym. You know, my shit come with receipts, but it sound like, yo, this guy's going crazy. Fat Joe is losing his mind. Almost wore the Royal Blue hat for the cat.
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Starting point is 00:25:19 it. He never thought he was going to get caught. And I just looked at my computer screen and I was just like, ah, gotcha. On America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors, and you'll meet the team behind the scenes at Authram, the Houston lab that takes on the most hopeless cases, to finally solve the unsolvable. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced.
Starting point is 00:26:00 He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months.
Starting point is 00:26:32 The first night was so overwhelming and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to Shock Incarceration on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dr. Joy Harden-Brandford, and in session 421 of Therapy for Black Girls, I sit down with Dr. Afiya M. Shaka to explore how our hair connects to our identity, mental health,
Starting point is 00:26:58 and the ways we heal. Because I think hair is a complex language system, right? In terms of it can tell how old you are, your marital status, where you're from, your spiritual belief. But I think with social media, there's like a hyper fixation and observation of our hair, right? That this is sometimes the first thing someone sees when we make a post or a reel, is how our hair is styled. You talk about the important role hairstylists play in our communities,
Starting point is 00:27:25 the pressure to always look put together, and how breaking up with perfection can actually free us. Plus, if you're someone who gets anxious about flying, don't miss session 418 with Dr. Angela Neal-Barnett, where we dive into managing flight anxiety. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Any more music coming?
Starting point is 00:27:51 No, not right now. Not right now. No, I'm kind of getting more into it. I'm feeling it a little bit more. Especially being on the tour. Because I like to work. Don't we don't. Listen Eve, I'm not taking nothing from you. I'm just putting.
Starting point is 00:28:07 You see how she got an answer. Let me tell you how. You made it, you foster the answer. I'm just putting. But listen to what I'm saying, no. In the landscape. You foster. I wanna, I got off the vulnerable position,
Starting point is 00:28:17 like I foster the answer. Let me tell you about me. Whether I see you. Let her tell us about her. Hold up, hold up. Whether I see you every day or I don't, even if it's cat, when I hear stuff like that, I am so happy for you. I'm like somebody that comes from where we come from the cloth. Can I say none of the culture?
Starting point is 00:28:38 You don't want me to be happy for you. You don't want me to be happy for you. No, but thank you. What about, shouldn did for the culture? Thank you. What about what she did for the culture? That's why you should be happy for me. That's what you should be happy for. I'm happy for you.
Starting point is 00:28:51 But what I'm also saying is that's one of my questions right there. Do you feel like, because whenever they start this, girls in hip hop or women in hip hop, like I don't feel like you get the credit you deserve. Yeah. And you touched on that Gwen Stefani, you touched a lot of shit. Because when you know when she know what she did and what she does and how would she contribute it, she don't got to do the own on it. You know, it's amazing that you have. I that's exactly how I feel.
Starting point is 00:29:22 I said this the other day. We from the same family. I know. I know. He noticed what I got. I got it rated to. But she knows they know exactly what he said. Exactly. Who's that girl? The Jada said, yeah. Oh, oh, yeah. And she's from the trenches. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:39 She didn't come. That's why I don't think about it. I don't. I honestly don't even think about it. I really don't like you just cause you can't take away, again, you can't erase it. You can't take away what I did. I know what I've done. So I don't. I feel like I gotta tell these people all the time
Starting point is 00:29:54 because these people, I'm alive. I'm alive. Yo, look, I'm alive. And you still front on me on greatness and what we brought to the game. And every time you wanna mention. She pulling out the mantra. She pulling out, every time y'all wanna mention something,
Starting point is 00:30:11 y'all skip past the accomplishments and I'm in your face. Number one part. I feel you on that though. I feel you on that. Telling you y'all red. We live on the world track. Like what do you see Cacobotta do?
Starting point is 00:30:23 They go, we live in an area where they don't go to your funeral after you dead. They don't go to your funeral till after you dead. They ain't about that. Damn, that's real. You're not gonna get none of that which you looking for. Shout out to Ray DeJong.
Starting point is 00:30:37 I went to my man Ray DeJong for video music about his funeral. That's a piece of Ray. In Brooklyn. I seen you there. Yeah, I seen the fabricons and all them was up in the staff. I seen your shirt. Oh wow.
Starting point is 00:30:48 See? That joint? Yeah, yeah. So everybody was out there, but you know, I feel like that's something, you know, we gotta always pay respects to, you know, the people who made us happy on earth. When they pass away, you gotta show up.
Starting point is 00:31:01 So shout out to Ralph McDaniels and them. And yeah, I mean, I'm outside, E. How you been? You been outside since you been on this tour? No. She's working. No, because I got the baby. She got a son with it.
Starting point is 00:31:15 But my mom is coming in here. Are you listening? Do you see human people? Not on stage robots. No. Listen. Guys, crazy. Eve, I'm going to break that down for you. She's not on stage with robots. No. Listen. Guys, crazy.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Eve, I'm gonna break that down for you. Do you see human people? I want you to, can you? I got to the point. Yes. I got to the point and I'm allegedly not as rich as you. I'm just saying, but hold up. I'm just saying I'm allegedly, listen to what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:31:44 What is this? Why? When I get off the plane now, when I get off the plane, I'm just saying I'm a legend. Why is this? Listen to what I'm saying. What is this? Why? When I get off the plane now, when I get off the plane, I'm not lying to you, they spin me and I'm on a tarmac in the car. I don't see humans. I can't see humans. But did you see some on the plane? But yeah, but that's not the glass by.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Okay. But what I'm saying to you is why they not trying to let me see human people? I went to a Giants game, right. And I came out, I actually got happy. I walked the hallway. I seen like thousands of people coming my way out. Now I'm in a staircase going down through the way that I don't see a human being. What's happened? That's my choice. You don't want to see.
Starting point is 00:32:19 What do you mean? It's by choice. Nobody made me do that. It's me. You get what I'm saying. I'm trying to see. But is he being scratched? I'm trying to argue with a fan. I'm trying to. Your guess is what is happening.
Starting point is 00:32:32 You know what I did? They took him away from human beings now. Is this not your choice? What I did this week, which player got sick. So I came outside by myself myself Brooklyn Harlem Bronx by myself in the big body shit with the people cuz I gotta feel the humans because if it's up to them who is the people and I'm trying to tell you when I show I had a show Atlantic City shit got thousands of people. Right. They got tables where you perform afterward.
Starting point is 00:33:07 You stand on the table. The motherfuckers put me up a deck center field up a deck. Yo, yo, this is better here. Like, like, I mean, why they won't let me you want to do you want to touch the people? Yes. Feel the people. Yeah, they try their best for me. Well, that's what happens with you. Do you come outside?
Starting point is 00:33:28 If you perform in Philly, are you going to the soul food restaurant in Philly? I do. Yeah, I like to walk around. So they letting you. Who is they? Nobody can do. There's no one that can. There's no let.
Starting point is 00:33:40 You hear this shit, Rich? These rappers can see human beings. Right! Well, it's partly your fault, all of y'all. Telling you what's happening to me. It's cool, whatever, it's cool. I'm telling you what's happening to me. I ain't lying to you. They do swerve and curve. It tweaked out. If it was up to me, I'd be with y'all. It tweaked. Give her one of them professional questions of yours, Jada. Oh my God. Can I have something?
Starting point is 00:34:06 I want some coffee. Oh, we got Kiss Cafe. You want the pie? How you want it? I'll give you. Brown. Brown? Just for the bus.
Starting point is 00:34:15 We need coffee on the bus. We'll get you that. Asa. You're from a legendary crew, right? Yes. Um, you know, you guys are very lucky, too. Very almost Clipsy like the Clips. Their best friend is Pharrell.
Starting point is 00:34:29 We've got the free Louis Vuitton connect. Right. What is going on? Where do these things go? I go to Louis Vuitton. You're like, I'm just saying. You're on a diet. You're on a diet.
Starting point is 00:34:43 You're not disgusting. I don't know who is going on. Strong diet. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no don't feel as good. Be nice to get it for free. Right. But you, you got Swiss. Swiss live in the Tony Starks houses, all glass on a mountain with his cars looking up. That's not normal shit that your brother that you wrapped on his first fucking beat when he was Dee's nephew now live in his palace. She's doing great. How do you feel when you see when you did you watch the verses with the locks on there? We was just talking about it. I wanna talk about it.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Like, did you watch it? Yeah. And how you felt? You felt like you should've came out, like, at some point? No. What do I need to come out with? But was you excited for it? Of course.
Starting point is 00:35:40 It was great. Why? This guy's crazy. This guy's crazy. This guy's crazy. I'm proud of my people. When I see my people win, I get excited. You ever thought about doing one? The Swiss Corvette? I know you probably did.
Starting point is 00:35:53 I did it. You did one? You did it early one? I did it with Trina, but I was in London. I couldn't fly. Oh, yes. You did the one before. Because of the COVID.
Starting point is 00:36:02 You did it before? No, I found out I was pregnant, so I couldn't get on the plane. Oh, yeah, you did the one before. No, I found out I was pregnant, so I couldn't get on the plane. Oh, wow. I literally just found out. So, Swizz hooked it up so that I could do it from London. You was in Miami, my brother went. I was supposed to fly to Miami,
Starting point is 00:36:17 and we changed it at the last minute. We changed it at the last minute. And when you got pregnant, I was about to get a reoccurring part on Queens. And then it ain't my fault. Don't blame it on me. It was a beautiful day for me to lose my job. One of the best things.
Starting point is 00:36:34 That was my fault. That wasn't part of my thing. That was part of production. That was a production situation. How you like acting. You enjoyed it. Me? Yeah, you like it. Yeah, I like it. I like it a little. I mean, they almost broke me. That particular one I had to do,
Starting point is 00:36:51 I had to jump in some rain and mud and roll around, fake wrestling. I went to the lady, like, I don't think this is for me. Exactly. She was like, nah, Jada, you got it. I said, you lady, I think I'm ready to. That's a lot. That production was a lot. Had a brand new Dior hoodie on. They paid for it, but I'm like, just jump in the mud?
Starting point is 00:37:12 This is brand new. They don't worry about that. You know what people might not realize out there is like one thing I realize in the acting world is like, hip hop. Acting's hard. It's a lot of things. It's like I feel like I lose one of my lives
Starting point is 00:37:25 every time I go about. Like, you know, you got nine lives? I lose one when I play a main role that I gotta get into that zone. And you know, when I act, I lock myself in the smallest hotel room in the world for like a week and just go over my lines. I'm extra focused, so I lose one of my nine lives
Starting point is 00:37:46 when I play a serious role because it's not like, and then when you rap, when you rapping you the king of your shit. You own your own studio, you do whatever you want. When you act. You're out of your element. That ain't our element. On other people's time. Yeah, you on they time. That's crazy to me. I think that's why I don't really, I'm not excited to go back in that capacity because I don't That ain't our limit. Other people time. Yeah, you on they time. That's crazy to me. I think that's why I don't really,
Starting point is 00:38:06 I'm not excited to go back in that capacity because I don't, the hours, I don't like the hours. You wanna be behind, you wanna be in production. You're running shit, then you, yeah. And make choices. That's really, really crazy because when we shot Night School, we'd be there at six in the morning
Starting point is 00:38:22 and they won't shoot my scene until 12 at night. Like, yo, what kind of shit is this? We there all day. I must've had diabetes on 10,000 because they keep giving you candies to keep you up. You just eating them candies and shit and then 12 midnight. I'm like, yo bro, you had me at 11 in the morning,
Starting point is 00:38:41 10 in the morning, I'd have been a fresh fat Joe. Like, why do you wait? You run me down to 12 hours. That production money that you never understand. They just stiff. It was paying you all them hours. You just said, that's true. Yeah, you know.
Starting point is 00:38:56 But acting also, it's almost like they always say pay your dues. When we paid our dues in rap, you know what I'm saying? From back in the day when he was working in. What do you feel about coming out in in the era you did? Yeah. As to this era, it seems like the girls is getting crazy paper quick. Yeah. But it don't feel like and I'm not trying to disrespect no ladies, but it don't feel I got nothing to do with the next sentence ladies. How do you know?
Starting point is 00:39:28 I gotta save my ass. What, yeah, what's that, what? No, I'm not saying, it feels like, see, 20 years later, you're on the couch, prime time, we talking about. We just said it, our legacy is staying. Do you think these young girls. Has sustainability. It's sustainability. Some of them.
Starting point is 00:39:45 That's a good question. That's a good question. Yes, that's a very good question. I think some of them, I agree. I think they're awesome. Can I get a diet Pepsi, please? I think there are some. I don't think it's gonna be a lot.
Starting point is 00:39:54 I don't think it's gonna be a lot, but I think there will be some. I think, you know, I think Dochi will be there. I think Cardi has made her way. I think, obviously, like, yeah, I mean, I love Glo, brother. Glo? I think Glo has made way. I think obviously like, yeah, I mean, I love GloBella. Glo? I think Glo will be here. I think Glo gonna make, Glo gonna have a nice legacy.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Yeah, I think there's some, I don't think it'll be a lot. So you think some of them is gonna make it through the cracks? Lottos though, like yeah. Love Lottos. Yeah, I think so. I definitely think so. It's a lot of crap out, but yeah, yeah. Bam.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Yeah. I. Yeah. I'm glad they start giving you the little joints. So half the shit ain't down to four. No, no, it's 48 of them down here. Oh, shit. Oh, my god. Everybody just, yo, you picking up the same can, yo. Ha.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. That's same can. Yeah. My guy. Yeah. I'm addicted to die. I tell him, I mean, that's my shit. How you feel about how the whole shit just switched like streaming from we seem to go from cassettes to CDs, the iCloud. Yeah. Yeah. Now streaming.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Are you you glad you missed? I mean, you didn't miss it because you still your music still on every platform. But we didn't have to. Would you still call that era the golden era? You think it would ever be a time? No matter what finances he keep talking about, just the feeling in the claw for the music in the 90s. No, I think we had it the best. I really do. I think there was a whole thing about really
Starting point is 00:41:31 consuming where you don't feel that with streaming. It's different. Like you can get excited about something coming out. You can listen to it over and over again. But we, I think that was the good part. Ripping the plaits is nothing like it. Yeah, I missed that. I definitely missed that. And I think actually, I don't know, you know what? What is it? Vinyl has come back. That's actually has grown a lot.
Starting point is 00:41:52 So I think people that are into vinyl get that experience, but I missed that experience. Yeah. You know, my brother Diamond D who discovered me, they be playing 45 like instrumentals, right? That joint, my favorite joint you did with us. And I went, what the hell, it's back. But they play that shit.
Starting point is 00:42:14 And then, nah, nah, I went to Diamond's, he was DJing Soul God in Miami. And there's people standing there, right? There's people standing there just absorbing the music. It ain't about pam pam pam pam. It ain't that. It's just the music. And so I watch people sitting there just like vibing it and listening to the four fives, you know, and so the appreciation of music is still there.
Starting point is 00:42:47 You know, never go. Yeah. But a lot of and we never this to you. But a lot of the youth, they felt like music was a lick. Like, yo, I'm just say a hot song and I'm just get this bag and this this. It wasn't about preserving the culture. You know, to this day, if I'm driving in Manhattan and I see Big Daddy Kane or anyone like you did. I'm pulling over. Yes. Yeah I'm saluting them to the utmost. I see Melly Melon in my pullover. Always. And be like
Starting point is 00:43:16 yo the gods, yo this this. Yeah. It ain't like that no more. No. You know what I'm saying? Because I think people were more or less, young rappers was looking for the catcher quick. You know what I mean? To get that bag rather than us, where we knew who put in the work before us. With that being said, a lot of them have that hot moment and then it's back to Grams.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Yeah, so you can't, you go for a quick lick, you get a quick lick. Yeah. That's crazy. It was ever a point in time in your career where you was just like, yo, like what's up? Like being done with it?
Starting point is 00:43:54 No, just like it wasn't- Discouraging? Discouraging, it wasn't paying like- Yeah, definitely, definitely. I mean- She went from doctor- Yeah, I got dropped from Drake. Yeah, her story's.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Rough Riders. And then when, because I was signed to like Interscope, when Rough Riders kind of went through their issues with Interscope, I kind of got caught up in that. And that kind of fucked up everything for me. Like when Tambourine came out, that basically, that's when everything kind of fell apart. And I definitely felt like deflated.
Starting point is 00:44:24 This is one of the most discouraging businesses by far you've ever been. I would think. Yeah. Elaborate, brother. Oh, it's always something. Yeah. You may get an, you get the album you think is the album or your thing is five songs can't get cleared.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Yeah. And this is not, it's always something. Nice. I mean, I think that's just what life right now with it just being so much in social media and so much everybody in your business and everybody got something to say and everybody got a common opinion. And opinion. And he's way harder now. Like, I think back in the days you could hide your life. Like, I never used to see Rakim. When Rakim was number one, I never would see him. I'd be like, yo, does he really live in a mansion
Starting point is 00:45:16 with the fish? With the, like, and so, you know, I'm like. That's real, that's real. Because this is his favorite dish. I'd be like, yo, that means he must live in a mansion with fish as his favorite dish. Like, you know, like we never seen Michael Jackson. Like I never seen Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 00:45:37 I seen him. You saw him? Yeah. Where, Summer Jam that time? Vegas. Not something. I seen Mike in Vegas. He walked right by me, he got on the Vegas. Not something. I seen Mike in Vegas. He walked right by me.
Starting point is 00:45:45 He got on the elevator. No way. Yeah. And what national securities are? I didn't get to speak to him, but he walked right by me. Never got to see Mike. No, me neither. Who's the most famous person you ever met?
Starting point is 00:45:59 When Hotel? I don't know. I mean, I think I've been like Prince for me was probably as my top. Like, I got to record with him Like I got to record with him. I got to perform with him. I got to like hang out and really bust it up with him. So that's fine.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Yeah. Yeah. Do you think he really used to play basketball in the platforms? Don't know. I never saw that, but I heard he did. No, no, Charlie Murphy. Listen, I had one time to meet Prince, and I fucked up.
Starting point is 00:46:30 What happened? It's a legendary night though. They had a, when the All-Star was in New York, Chris. Oh, he was performing. Yeah, he was performing at the Jordan party. At the Jordan shit. I was there.
Starting point is 00:46:39 He was there, I was there. And I was so smacked, right, drunk this one night, because I never get a high drink. But that night I got drunk and Prince was performing and I was just like, yeah, I can catch him next time, whatever. I ain't pay the right attention. And then he passed away, you know, shortly after. And I was like, damn, I couldn't like really. Yeah, because you kind of took a program that actually happened with me,
Starting point is 00:47:06 with Michael Jackson, like could have met him. But then I was like, no, I'll wait. Well, because I think Swiss was working with him. So I was like, I'll definitely meet him through like at a time. And then I think it was two weeks later, a week later. I was like, I'll just wait. You know, that happened to me.
Starting point is 00:47:21 You know, my favorite singer of all time is Luther Vandross. And so when Luther was in the hospital, I pulled up. They told me what the hospital was. But I never met Luther. I never did. And I parked outside the joint. And I was just like, I was scared to go upstairs. Of course. You know what I'm saying? So I ain't go upstairs.
Starting point is 00:47:42 The hospital was Beth Israel on Second Avenue. You better stop bullshitting. Cap in your face and all that shit. He down with all them guys out there. I didn't say anything. You the leader of the Joe cap. Oh my God. Bro, you're the actual.
Starting point is 00:48:02 I didn't hold my composure. Your face didn't help. You know what happened? Women that hate his club. Can't hold it. It didn the asshole. You know what I had to do? The women that hate his club. It didn't help. Oh my God. You know like, Honeymooners, you're the leader of the lodge. He's not the leader. But the sad thing is, I was scared to go upstairs because I didn't think he would know me or
Starting point is 00:48:23 nothing like that. But that's the only opportunity. You couldn't go up there and say your last words. Yeah, man, I mean, but, and so DMX, right? That's another guy you got super. The dog. Y'all got super history. Do you got any DMX stories we might have never heard?
Starting point is 00:48:43 Oh my God, I don't know. She got millions of X-Dawn heard. Oh my God. I don't know. She got millions of X stories. Oh yeah, literally. Nah, X was like, I don't know, special, you know? What I'm asking you, the people don't, they- Nah, I mean- They say my sister's lies.
Starting point is 00:49:01 When I say my DMX stories, they say I'm lying 1 million percent. Nah, I don't even know what stories to tell. I mean, hanging out of windows, hanging out of cars, driving out of wind, like what the hell? Like what the fuck? Speed. Speed and crazy all the time, all the time. But for some reason you trusted him.
Starting point is 00:49:18 I don't even know. I've been in cars. I was in cars with him. And for some reason you fucking, he made you believe that you was gonna be okay. And you just was like, cool. We do a tribute to him. Like a small little tribute. On the show? On the show. Yeah. And people really, they love him. So yeah. He was special, man. He was special. He was special.
Starting point is 00:49:39 For ever. Yeah. You know, he was one of the greatest. You know, every time I, I think a DMX man, he just had the biggest songs ever. Like, y'all gonna make me lose my mind. I mean, like, anytime I'm listening to music in the show or club or something, one of his shits come on up and like, it immediately makes me think of that time where I'm like, yo, this shit was big. This was the biggest shit. Huge. Ever. And so we more than honored to have you in our presence.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Like I said, I got four outfits in the thing. Bottega or type of thing. I love what you picked. You look great. I'm looking good, right? You look great. You know you got it. And by the way, you see that shit? What? I'm glad you got your legs out because they look great.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Oh, I'm so sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. I don't want to have told you these shit's fucking nice. You thought it was a joke when I told you your legs was looking nice. Thank y'all for having me. You got to keep one, that one got to stay like this. I got to like, yo, get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Keep it up. Like, keep it. You want to give I gotta like, yo, get the fuck out of here. Keep it up, like keep it. You wanna give me some braces and some shit? Guys. Oh my God. Gonna work on that leg. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for the lovely evil, Joe James. Thank you, y'all. Boy, you're a T.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Thank you. Boy, you're a T. Thank you. You been to Philly, anyway, you been to Philly on the store yet? No, not yet. They don't even go to Philly. They go somewhere like Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 00:51:06 But even then, I'm not on it. It's in September. I'm not on it anyway. Oh, because I'm trying to get I've been trying to get the skinny Joe's skinny Joe Molina. He got this new cheesesteak. I've been watching this shit on Instagram. You've been brother. You still do. You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know Yo, my man. It's a cheese. You gotta stop being so. It's a cheese. This guy's crazy. I don't know what you're saying. Going down there, trust me.
Starting point is 00:51:50 I mean, but my, I haven't had what, my family loves this one place called Delasandro's. I've never been. So. Nah, ain't nothing. Listen. Jim's is mine, but. First of all, shout out to my man Steve Matarano from South Philly this out in Florida his cheesesteak's a legend and um but skinny joe's has my attention okay so one of your brothers
Starting point is 00:52:16 somebody got to try that shit out there somebody we go back gotta let me know if it's the real deal because i'm about to drive down the turnpike for a cheesesteak. Is it that? What is it? Why? Why? Now we're going to pause to death, right? It look juicy. Wait, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Whoa. No, come on, because I need to know why. Yo. What? What? It look like, it look, it look, it look. What's wrong with juicy though? It look like that like it looked like a special steak to it looks like. Oh, what's the shit they say?
Starting point is 00:52:51 They be they be like petting this. Oh, they kill them. Yeah. It looked like Wagyu. Right. That's it is the most disrespectful shit in the world. Right. You go to a restaurant and be be like, babe, didn't know you were a valet. Only heard of the awkward movie his whole life. When we killed him, his knife was so sharp, he couldn't feel a thing.
Starting point is 00:53:13 It's true. But I mean that Wagoo, it looked like Wagoo's, trust me, Skinny Joe's in Philly is where I need to get to. And I've been wanting to get there all summer, but I'm gonna have an off day and I'm going down that turnpike. With that being said, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for attending the JL Show.
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