Joe and Jada - Fat Joe & Jadakiss break bread with Mario Carbone & talk food, hip hop & Jada's Italian heritage

Episode Date: March 12, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss pull up to the world-famous Carbone in New York City for a lunch with the man himself, restaurateur Mario Carbone. From President Obama's secret visit to Jay-Z and Elon Musk fight...ing over the bill, Mario opens up about the legendary moments that have gone down inside these walls. Mario takes the guys through the rich history of the Greenwich Village spot, from its roots as Rocco's in the 1920s, to building one of the most coveted dining empires in the world, with plans to expand into hotels, residential properties, and supermarket shelves. Plus, longtime Carbone fixture Ricky "The Face" serves up a classic Joe Pesci story, a tailor measures Joe and Jada for new suits, and the question on everyone's mind is finally answered: is Jadakiss Italian? Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX! All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet 2:30 In the kitchen with Mario Carbone 12:00 Obama, Elon & Jay-Z stories 14:30 Meet Ricky "The Face" 17:00 History of the Carbone building 20:45 Mario's origin story 25:00 N.O.R.E.'s John Gotti story 31:00 Did Knicks fans over-celebrate? 42:00 Future of Carbone: Hotels, residences & beyond 47:30 Favorite hip hop songs & LL Cool J appreciation 50:30 Ricky's amazing Joe Pesci story 55:00 Fat Joe got a table before LeBron 59:30 Joe got caught with the glizzy again 1:06:00 Making every guest feel like Henry Hill (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:17 asking me, is he really Italian? Are you Italian, Jada? Yeah, he's got to ask something to test. Yeah, you got to get the 23 in me. You know, my shit, man. What are you two doing back here? Welcome. You've been here enough, you never been in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:02:48 And this guy's never been here before. How's that possible? No. Only Miami. You can't get it? You can't get it? You can't get it? That's the harder reservation.
Starting point is 00:02:58 You can't get there. You better stop, man. This guy takes care of me to the ultimate. I feel like I should teach you a couple things because being that you hear a lot. In case I'm not here, maybe you can just jump in next time. Are you crazy? I can't make toast, man. Come back here.
Starting point is 00:03:13 This is chef Pauley. Chef Pauley, what's up? Joe, Jada, Chef Pauley. How are you doing? How are you doing? He runs the kitchen around here. When I'm not around, we're going to do a couple of dishes today. We're going to do a couple of seafood dishes.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Okay. I love seafood. Maybe some things you haven't had a carbone before. Bronsino, huh? No, Doverstole. Doverstole? Dole so? I like Bronino.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Oh, Wroxon's good. Overson is good. They make it incredible, but that bronzino clean. Oh, Frizzon's good. We'll fire Bronzino after for lunch. That Brozino, huh? Best Bronzino in the game. Best Bronzino in the game.
Starting point is 00:03:48 That's a fat. I'm going to show you how to do this because you've never seen it before and then we're going to do a Linguidian Klan. You like Nguidian Klanx? I love Linguine clams. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Does that's hungry? Yes. Do a little ricotoni later too. Wrecki Tone. Spicy regatuttony. You know, every restaurant needs a Big Mac. You know, when you go to... Oh, you mean a signature.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Yeah. You go to McDonald's, you get a Big Mac. You go to Burger King, you get a Big Mac. A whopper, I don't think there's a customer that doesn't come to carbone that don't want the spicy leathertony. It's actually hard to go to an Italian restaurant now and not see a spicy reggahton. Oh, you see it now? Oh, they're shifting. Everybody got a spicy regatoni now.
Starting point is 00:04:26 I should be collecting a vig on those restaurants. Yeah, I said, I'm saying. They got it. We like spicy? Yeah, right? Yeah, let me ask, of course, the spicy regatoni. Did they used to make the regatoni spicy before you, or? Vodka sauce was always a New York thing, really.
Starting point is 00:04:44 You know, it's not an Italian thing. It's a New York thing. I played with it a little bit. How I make the noodles. I had a lot of onion to it, so it's kind of sweet, creamy, and then the spice at the end. It was a dish that no one thought a lot of. You know what I love about carbone? Although it's hard to get into, although very upscale, it's still traditional with Italian food.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Italian American. Italian American. Yeah. Meaning that you don't got fire coming. out in the place. You know, you go to restaurants now. Everybody got fire. You know, you get real food here.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I thought it was important to make dishes that you've had before, but just try to make the best one that you've had, right? Things you understand. Like, I'm not trying to be the chef to impress you with something you never had before. And be like, oh, this combination is this and that. And, like, if you don't like it, well, maybe you didn't get it. Like, the artist in me is like, oh, you didn't get it.
Starting point is 00:05:36 But, like, I can't serve you a meatball and be like, oh, he didn't get it. It's probably just not good if he didn't like it. Right? I don't have any net to fall back on. I got to make the best one. You know what a linguine Vongolet is. You know what a meatball is. I don't got anything to hide behind. I got to make it great. Yes. White wine, fresh chilings, a little bit of garlic. Simple food. It's just simple food. It's a simple Italian-American food. Yeah, but you know how to make it. I got friends. No, no, I got friends. You have the same ingredients that we'll make it and they don't taste nothing like they make it.
Starting point is 00:06:09 That stuff's the same in all forms of art, right? Like, I mean, it's not just food, right? Like, the same analogy of make a classic better than the next guy's classic. Ours is bars, but the way Jeter gets put it together is different. You can't. You can't do it, right? Like, good luck. All right, we're going to steam our clams open.
Starting point is 00:06:31 We got linguine cooking. So neither one of you guys cooks at home. No. Nothing. Nothing. You could? No. What's the last thing you made?
Starting point is 00:06:38 I can't make toast, bro. I'll burn the whole house up. You could make toast. Come on, man. Yo, listen, when I say I suck at cooking, I don't know how to make nothing. I set up a cutting board for you, but I'm a little worried that you're going to walk out of here with nine and a half fingers.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I can't cut something, but I can't cook. These are some clams that I opened earlier and then I marinate them. Fresh oregano, yeah. No, but you got to do this. It's like Regis and Kelly. No, I think of Regis and Kelly is how I do it. You know, they come out with the dish already?
Starting point is 00:07:09 Hey, this is how this is it. And then this is our pan. This is shaped this way for that fish exactly. This pan is made for that fish. Oh, that's damn. They love the dofest soul. My family loves it. And then Ricky's going to show you how to filet litter up the table.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Local clams. I love clams. You can't. Local clams? What does that mean? Local. Local. In New York clams?
Starting point is 00:07:31 Yeah, they're from Long Island. Long Island? That area up there. Because that's almost like if you cross the water, you're in Maine and all that. Yeah, also great. You want cold water for shellfish. The cold of the water, the better of your shellfish.
Starting point is 00:07:45 That's why when you go to the Caribbean, the lobster's, like, kind of questionable. Like, that lobster is not as good as New England. It's a different kind of lobster. It's not as sweet. Like, they need cold water. Hey, listen, I ain't going to lie to you go to Japan. It's the best sushi in the universe. That's the different things.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Well, many, many reasons. They have incredible fish, but that's only part of it. I mean, a lot of it is kind of the amazing training that they have. They take that training so serious, like way more serious than anybody. Like, it takes, you know, 10 years before you're allowed to even, you know, cut a piece of fish, you know. You got to be an apprentice. You got to learn. You can't, you can't just pick up a knife.
Starting point is 00:08:23 You can't, they don't play around like that. How long are not possible, Polly? One minute. So you have the fresh open clams. Then I have the marinated clams. It's important to mix them. This is how we do it around here. Foley, your pants ready for your soul over here.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Man, your plans look good. I don't know if you guys have a cooking show in your future. Nah, I don't know. Maybe Jada... Nah. You know, I'm going to save it for the thing, but they think... My daughter thought Jada Kiss was really Italian. I also think Jada kiss is Italian.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I operated under that assumption. Yeah, Jada, my daughter was like, yo, dad, is Jada kiss really Italian? I said, what the... Of course you is. I said, what you're talking about? That's true. She said, yo, it's all over.
Starting point is 00:09:09 They say, Jayda. It's important here when you finish the pasta, you leave a good amount of liquid in there, and then the last minute you turn the fire all the way up and you let the noodle drink drink the sauce up. Wow. You got Mario Carbone cooking. The ones and two are here. He's usually just greeting everybody, y'all was uh counting the money in the back. They hate-haping out with somebody's space. Hate is coming. Yo Mario could cook. They hate is coming! Have they ever seen you cook?
Starting point is 00:09:39 Who they? I mean, the people. How do you think I got here? I cook. I've always seen you just socialized. I never seen you in the kitchen like that. You were questioning whether I actually wanted to do it. I never did that.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I never, I know. You're always the real thing. In this kitchen you can catch a sunsand in the back of your neck. Yeah, yeah. This joint right here. Really, cooking for one person. I got back of my head. I got three hundred people coming up.
Starting point is 00:10:08 That's 300 people coming in here to mud. That's a fish. Watch out. I'm going to put you in your linguine here. We don't want no problem. Mario Carboni, ah? Live in person. Thompson, Thompson Street.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Italian American neighborhood. Just like, just like... Not only what it feels hungry right now. Like, I'm like looking at this, like, I need that. I mean, no different. No different than my people who've been making for 100 years in this neighborhood. Say how quickly he did that. He's going to finish this fish.
Starting point is 00:10:44 We're going to go make you a Bronzino and some rigatoni and have some lunch. Oh, let's do it. Let's open a ball of wine. So we here Mario Carbone. Here we are, Table 40. Thank you for taking out the time. You know, last time I sat here, Derrick Jeter was there with his wife. Captain.
Starting point is 00:11:02 On the other side, the captain was in here hanging out. He came here. His last game as a professional. It was a day game in Boston. And they drove straight here And they had an early dinner I remember him walking in Everyone kind of got up
Starting point is 00:11:16 Give him a standing ovation Like it was really an amazing moment Except for him over there You've had some some cool moments in the end That was one of the many other epic moments We've had We had President Obama twice Once as the sitting president
Starting point is 00:11:31 So when you're the sitting president There's a whole level of security So like I knew a week in advance If he was coming But I couldn't tell anybody I didn't even want to text anybody because I assumed that they were watching my phone. So I was like, I didn't want to tell anybody.
Starting point is 00:11:45 So none of the staff knew, no one knew that the president was coming. It was like Friday night or something. And because it wasn't an announced, no one in the dining room knew he was there, knew he was walking in either. So they assumed that everybody's safe because it's not an announced stop.
Starting point is 00:11:59 And then as soon as he walks in, they set up protocols outside. So I have secret service in the kitchen. I have secret service at every spot, downstairs, everywhere. Cell phone blockers, like they shut down all the phones and to have him walk in, to see people's faces
Starting point is 00:12:12 to have the President of the United States walk in out of nowhere, you know, amazing moment to have the Secret Service back there. That was a crazy man. That was a big night. Hove and Elon ate here once. I remember that. They ate here together.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Hov and Elon Musk. Yeah. And they were fighting over the bill. Jay called me out to the kitchen. And he was like, can you explain to this man that's been taken care of? And I was like, Mr. Musk, you realize the position I'm in right now, right?
Starting point is 00:12:36 Like I... Elon Musk probably bought the building that. night, huh? You tell home I bought the building, huh? Got to make sure. But Jay, how to make sure he paid? That's right. The world famous spicy Ricotta Coney.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Lops of Rebulele. Lopso buttercream. Ricky Tinelli from Cook Avenue and Yonkers right here. Let me tell you something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is my guy right here. Yeah, this is the face. No, no, he's the face.
Starting point is 00:12:59 He's the spokesmanlies. I'm surprised we got you. I thought we was coming to Ricky. That's why I call him the face. Yeah, everyone knows him. Everybody knows him. Wherever you set up shop, this is the guy right here. This is the fish, you carbone guy.
Starting point is 00:13:13 You also got the guy with the blonde hair, right? With the brownish hair. Works here? He's been here with you for years. The little guy with the brown hair. Ricky, a little guy with the brown hair. He's your guy. He's got around the hair.
Starting point is 00:13:29 That guy's not a round of him. He didn't make it? No, you're not going to see him. Slip with the fish. Not going to see him anymore. Slip with the fish. He was here, but, you know. No, if it says something happened.
Starting point is 00:13:38 He's a nice guy. He's working a union term. He's a good job. Tuna coli-Brize style. I want to try that. You're going to do the dope for us, right? Absolutely. He sleeps with the pleasures.
Starting point is 00:13:48 He sleeps with the fishes. That is crazy. I asked you earlier off there, but is there any Italian that doesn't love Frank Sinatra? No, it's illegal. There's a police for that. They come to your house. You don't like Frank Sinatra. They check for the photo and they find you.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Yo, that Frank Sinatra, the real deal, man. What a good guy, man. He was a man of morals and principal, man. He was the more and more I looked into Frank Sinatra. He was really a great guy. Chairman of the board. Chairman of the board. So what made you...
Starting point is 00:14:22 Before we start having dinner, a little lunch here, I was a surprise for both of them. Okay. I thought to live in the Italian-American lifestyle, Sheda knows this because he's an Italian. He's an Italian. Living the lifestyle, I thought I would have a little surprise for you. I brought my tailor here.
Starting point is 00:14:42 He's going to make you guys a soup each custom made. My boy Dennis from Milan, my boy Dennis from Milan. I brought him in. He was from Milan. So that he looked apart a little bit more before you eat at the corner table. Dennis from Milan. Before you eat at the corner table, you looked apart of him. He did.
Starting point is 00:15:02 So he's going to one of the time he's going to measure you up for, nice new suit. A beautiful. Thank you so much. You got to take your appearance. You brought some nice fabrics, right? Yes. They're over there.
Starting point is 00:15:13 He's going to measure them up. It's nice. It's a nice thing. Get measured up. You want, Denny. Joe, Taney don't play. He went to get measured, huh? You know, Milan.
Starting point is 00:15:24 I love Milan. The lawn's a great. What's your favorite city in it in Italy? Robbie Rome. You love Rome. Yeah. Rome is beautiful. Eternal city.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I love Florensia. Florence is great. Yeah. Derenzi. Derenzi. You know, I'm a big olive guy, man. When I eat the olives in Florence, it feels like God has given you the olives. Tuscany is home of the greatest olive in the world.
Starting point is 00:15:48 So that is like... That's why, yeah. Florence is the capital. Tuscany. Tuscany is the home of the olive. That's why you feel that way. The home of the olives. Like, when I eat olives out there, I feel like, wow.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Like, it's just a different... It's a different... I like Castellabano. Olive. Castle Vitrano. Castle Vitrano. Castle Vitrano. Castle Vitrano.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Castle Vitrano. I love those olives. Years ago, before this restaurant was here. So before this, we were here. Yeah. So the sign that's outside is the original sign from the restaurant that was here before us, which was called Rockos. Rockos was open in the 20s. And this neighborhood was a general.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Genovese neighborhood. This block was Genovese. So Vincent de Chin, this was his block, and he would spend a good amount of time here. Where that wall is, there used to be a secret door. So this sliver of the right room was a private room, and they could come from upstairs from the apartment buildings down and get in without going on the street and being seen. But this was all Genovese family, and this was Rocco's from the 20s. You know, I've been in here before it was Carbone. No. Josepi been in here before it was Carbone.
Starting point is 00:17:06 That's why I asked you the question to see if you got it right. Hey, I've been in here before it was Carbone. Trust me, that's why I knew the answer to that question. What's your favorite Italian restaurant that's not Carbone? Well, where do you go? To be honest with you, I love Il Milino. Yep. Right down the mind.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Miami, El Gabiano. Gabiano. Same family. Il Gabiano is really great. I don't like what they're doing with the new age Italian restaurants where they bring it fire in the stuff and a bunch of sauces in the stuff. Like, I like it simple, man.
Starting point is 00:17:44 I like it like this. When we come and we get the real taste. Spicy bread. Now, I'm okay with that one. But, you know, it's like, you know, I go to a spot in Jersey. You've probably been there. Grasini's. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Simple Italian food. It doesn't have to be fancy or nothing like that. He's getting tail it up. He's getting tail it up. Y'all. Dennis got the best fabrics. Oh, man, I'm going to have him tailing me out, too. Dennis, a little double-breasted?
Starting point is 00:18:18 I need it, maybe. Let him be double. Six by one. Oh, wise guy style. They used to wear the silk suits. They called him shark skin. How about? So the world-famous race.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Right? Yep. You've been there a million times. You know Joey Cupcake? I know, Nikki Vest. Man. Nicky Vest was a bartender. Nikki Vest was a legend over there.
Starting point is 00:18:44 So I went to Joey Cupcakes Trial in the Bronx. And they had all those jackets on him in that courier house. Who's a good shot? I'm kidding. Don Carter Gina. Was Louis actually in the Bronx? Louis from Louis from It was a Louis
Starting point is 00:19:04 It was a Louis on Trimont all the way up town And Throgynex Remember Joe Nines John Nines. You ate at Joe Nina's before? My dad My dad told me many stories about that place. I've been in Joe Nines
Starting point is 00:19:16 That's not around no more, right? No, I think he's resting in peace. That's it. But he was a good guy. And traditional was Dominic's on Arthur. Arthur. Would he serve you, whatever? You know, I used to have a guy on 116th Street.
Starting point is 00:19:34 All the Italians watching, I want you to tell me it was. It was a little spot that was almost like a diner. And it was an old Italian guy there. And we sit in the table and smoke cigarettes all day. And you go in there, it was like almost empty. He wasn't making a lot of money. But you go over there, it's like around the corner from rails. You go in there, he just stare at you.
Starting point is 00:19:58 And then he'd go in the kitchen. He come out. And he threw whatever he wanted to throw on the table. And it was always good. And this man right here, he had it. The minute he died, his family sold that whole building in one second. But he was always- He only-in-air-rails, I know it's Patsy's.
Starting point is 00:20:16 I know Patsy's is my favorite pizza joint in the whole planet Earth. But there was a spot around the corner, nothing to brag about. Yeah. It's my guy. But there was a spot on 116th with this old man. would just stare at you. He had an apron and you sit there and you're the only customer.
Starting point is 00:20:36 He's going to kitchen, come back and play and give you some food that's out of this world. I'm telling you the second that guy died, they sold that building, this family. He was the only one keeping it together.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Yeah, he loved it. You could tell he didn't have to do because he wasn't making no money there. That's the thing about a lot of these old school places is that they're not getting passed down. The next generation doesn't want to do it. And it's understandable. It's hard work.
Starting point is 00:20:59 And like, you know, the next, you know, what normally happens, you know, they don't want them anymore. So these old places after 100 years or whatever, they're closing down. That's why it was important for us when this one closed down that was 100 years old, that we took it and kind of put it back and tried to keep it, keep it going, keep this neighborhood going. This was, you know, this was a big Italian neighborhood. You know, even though it's not little Italy because of the church on the corner,
Starting point is 00:21:21 like the neighborhoods would be marked by the churches and then it would be built around it. So you have St. Anthony on the corner here. You have Our Lady of Pompeii over there. So these churches would, because they were the Roman Catholic churches, the Irish and Italians would migrate around them. So that's why you have these big pockets. So when you open this original carbone, you knew the history that was here before that. And you had to have that spot.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Well, I worked across the street when I was like 19 years old. So you seen that. So I knew this spot. So as soon as it became available and we heard about it. I was like, no, we got to get that. That's got to be it. That's carbone. When you was young, did you visualize having this spot or, you know, owning this original?
Starting point is 00:22:07 No, I couldn't have, I didn't see it when I was young. I was a really bad, I was a bad student. You know, I knew that, like, educate, like, the proper, like, university path wasn't for me. A lot of bad students became the most powerful people in the work. I don't want to say that, but it's the truth, though. But as soon as you start eliminating things, it opens up opportunities for what might be for you. You know, it's like, okay, maybe that, that's not for me, but that door closes
Starting point is 00:22:32 what opens, right? And, like, I had this, always had this passion for food. I didn't know that I would like, start a big company, but it wasn't even about that back then. It was about, like, okay, do something I really want to do, something I care about, right? Like, my grandparents and my family, it was always a big thing. So I was like, you know, I worked after school and on weekend, in Queens. I grew up in Queens. So after school and on weekends, I would work in little restaurants, make a little bit of money. I was like, I like this. You know, this is, you know, This is something. Where are Queens?
Starting point is 00:23:00 On Springfield Boulevard. Springfield Boulevard. Shout out to Coach from Cardoza. He just won the record for the most wins ever. Right behind Cardozo's, but grew up. You grew up around there where Ronnie Kiff is from. Exactly. Did you grow up together?
Starting point is 00:23:13 No, we didn't know each other. We went to different school. He went to Cardoza. I grew up right next to it, but I went to Holy Cross High School. My wife's from Queens, man. The only other, the only famous Holy Cross graduate is Steve Stout. Ah, yeah, yeah. Well, Rich Player,
Starting point is 00:23:27 graduated from Holy Cross, my manager, Rich player. Is that true? But, yes, the fact. He played football for him. But what I was going to tell you is, I used to go to this spot. What was the spot on Northern Boulevard across the street from the courthouse?
Starting point is 00:23:44 It was Italian. That's where I learned Pesto sauce for the first time. In Queens. In Queens, I used to go to Italian Messimo back in the days all the time. We had a lot of them, but like, to the conversation. But it was, it was the big, that was the first place.
Starting point is 00:23:57 ever ate pesto sauce. And I would eat pesto sauce for like three years straight. I thought like I invented some shit. Like nobody knew pestos. The two most famous places in Queens when I was growing up and still maybe today is, was Don Pepps, Don Peps and Parkside. Parkside was a Goddy hangout in Corona, right by Shea Stadium. Parkside, what about the fat guy that used to own it?
Starting point is 00:24:20 I think he passed away over there. Well, his name, Tuftony owned it. Tough Tony owned it. That's the spot you're talking about? That's Parkside, yeah. Man, they make a mean-friar Diablo strip. Great restaurant. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:31 It's a great restaurant. And across the street is the 11th. So he wasn't fat, Tony. He was tough Tony. No, it was tough Tony. So I'm being disrespectful calling him fat Tony. God rest of the soul. All right.
Starting point is 00:24:39 You flashed, no, you mess. He's name of us. I'm not said he's a media. You can't let some media. Tony. You can't call him fat Tony. Q Gardens? Queens Boulevard.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Queens Boulevard. We had an Italian restaurant there, nothing to brag about almost dinist style, but that's where I learned how to eat Pesto sauce. You know, Norrie got famous. Well, you know, I learned how to eat. You know, he can't eat toast.
Starting point is 00:25:05 He doesn't eat pesto sauce. Guy needs a peanut butter and jelly. He needs help. Yeah, but I thought, like, you know, I really thought that, it was like big time. You know, in the Bronx, we had a... You took Pesto back to the Bronx? You were like, like, Columbus.
Starting point is 00:25:19 It was Columbus. He discovered it in Queens. No, I thought I blew up. Discovered it in Queens and took it back to the VX. Today's show is brought to you by our presenter sponsor Hard Rock Bet, Florida Sportsbook. All right. March is here, and that means college basketball takes center stage. The stakes are rising, the shots are falling,
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Starting point is 00:29:12 You guys are awesome. Watch live next Monday at 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific free at Veeps.com or the Veeps app. Hey, I'm Jay Chetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. My latest episode is with Hilary Duff, singer, actress, and multi-platinum artist. Hillary opens up about complicated family dynamics, motherhood, and releasing our first record in over 10 years. We talk about what it's taken to grow up in the entertainment industry
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Starting point is 00:30:01 and I hope it's not forever. but it's for right now. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Norrie got a famous story. He says one day he grew up in Lefrat. So one day he tried to go up in an Italian restaurant out there
Starting point is 00:30:24 that he used to go all the time, and they told him he can't come in. And when he looked in, it was a bunch of guys in there. And then he was like, yo, but I'll come here all. You know, Norrie. You could imagine a young Norrie before rap and all that. He was thugging his way in, and they was like, boom, it was John Gotti was in there.
Starting point is 00:30:40 And John Gotti was like, yo, just give him what he wants. They gave it to him outside. He paid for it and no he broke out. He said, yo, I seen the man there. Like, the man, not the myth in there. Where the original, my first restaurant is on Mulberry, across the street was his club, the Ravenite. Is you see him of that?
Starting point is 00:30:58 No, when we, he was good. He was long gone after when we started there. But that was the story that that's it. You still drive through there and you know you on that block. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even if they put a jamba juice, this, a dad, a debt. You know how you go through yonkers and you know that gas station is where the locks used to be? When you go through that block, you know that's John Gotti's block.
Starting point is 00:31:22 And they might put jambah juice and yogurt spot, whatever the case may be. I think it's a shoe store. It's a shoe store. Yeah, the Ravenite's shoe store. Still filled a mystique. Yeah, because all the movies we ever seen, every documentary, everything was was that bad. block. You can't change the block. Can't change the block? Can't change his team? Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:42 That's what we're trying to get. Can I get a plate, swap this out real quick? I want to try this tunit thing over here. Ricky. Ricky, Ricky's the man, bro. Ricky's the man. Ricky's from wild. Ricky to face. Yeah. That's what they call them. That's what I call him. Ricky the face. Yo, Mario, let me tell you something. Speaking of starting in Queens, you have built an enterprise to say the least
Starting point is 00:32:09 if I go to Texas I call you yo could you get me in if I go to Vegas I say can you get me in if I'm in Miami can you get me in if I'm in New York
Starting point is 00:32:20 can you get me in did you ever envision becoming this big can get you in? Huh? Never got me. Then you got you in. I never called him.
Starting point is 00:32:29 I never asked him no all these get in. He asked me on what he got him in I had... Nori, shout out to Nori. You got me in my head. Shanoi stopped that Nori got you in. Shout out to Nore.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I saw good. Shout out to Nore. Yeah, yeah, Nore. Yeah, I think I got Nori in. That's how this works. We're passing it through. Passing it down. No, we're passing it through.
Starting point is 00:32:49 I remember Barry O'Core once I ain't said, man, this guy, like, Norrie. He'll wear something. Like, when he got a hole of carbone, he was in there every... Like, say... Oh, he's... Rails. Yeah. You know the story behind that, right?
Starting point is 00:33:06 It's the hardest restaurant in the planet Earth to get into. It is what it is, right? I can get it. You got into Rios? Yeah, got it. You got the plug. I do, too.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Right? But, but... Shut up, Rios. I use my favorite, wiserie. I mean, you know, once a year, twice a week. You know, I don't abuse. Beckos to go every Wednesday
Starting point is 00:33:32 and abuse the juice, whatever the sauce is, this, this, that. Norrie's the same way. One day, I don't know if you remember, you called me up and you was like, yo, this guy's in here every night, yo, he spends money. Yo, Norrie ain't cheap. He's blowing the bag.
Starting point is 00:33:46 He's blowing a hundred wines. He's spending the money, but he was like, yo, he just, no other customer could take the back three tables. Nori got the three, the back three tables. I told Norrie, Norie was like, yo, what made you come up with the ZZZ's concept? So the private club. I'm in the Zizi's class.
Starting point is 00:34:03 You see, there you go. Well, you're looking. Kind of a big deal around here, can you? That's what I said. In these parts. You don't need me to get in. I'm thinking you got it. You've been in Zizi.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Yeah. In Miami. New York. In New York. Yeah, New York Zizi's. I love you. After Nick game. Kyle Lowry.
Starting point is 00:34:21 After Nick. After Nick. Byriece Maxy, Coach Tim. You see. See some nice. Zizi started in Miami because we wanted to do this, this sort of idea of this, this members club there.
Starting point is 00:34:33 We had all of our, you know, all of our, you know, our top people, VIPs. We wanted to take great care of them. We wanted to open something special for them. And it started there. We had this amazing space in the design district in Miami. We built a beautiful sports bar, a cocktail bar, restaurants. I didn't even know it was the ZZs in Miami. It was one in Miami.
Starting point is 00:34:51 I know. It started in Miami. It's crazy. And the food is incredible, phenomenal. And then we did it here in New York. We also had a great space in Hudson Yards. And it was walking distance to the garden. It's a beautiful film.
Starting point is 00:35:04 We're there after we won that, well, I'm there all the time. But I was there after the Knicks won. They had a celebration in Zizi's. So everybody, Leon Rose, the whole, the whole New York was in there. We had every jeweler in town, whoever that's it. Do you think we over-selebrated last year?
Starting point is 00:35:29 Yep. We waited 20 years. You think so, yes? I just, if, We won one game. We didn't like, we... I was happy for everybody. As a Nick fan in New York, I'm happy for it.
Starting point is 00:35:40 I just felt like... It felt like we were celebrating a little bit too hard for the... for what we were, where we were at. We ain't win since 1973. We've been out here like crackheads. We still haven't. We got how many times I went home sick? We lost 20-point leads.
Starting point is 00:35:59 We still ain't win. But last year was the first time. It was good. good with the level of celebration in relation to the victim. They almost do a damn to love that. Every night. Every night was a parade. I wasn't.
Starting point is 00:36:13 I loved it. I loved it. Don't let us win. Because we burning this bitch down. Like this shit about to go crazy out here. I loved it. I loved that Dolan was going out there, giving it the fans the game ball. And then we-
Starting point is 00:36:31 They like the lesson from that. That's why they didn't put up. up the banner from the cup. I'm glad they didn't put the banner. You did. You didn't want the car. I don't want that manner. You want the real shit.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Yeah. There's some, there's some questionable banners up there anyway. For real? You last time looked up there. I never lick up there. You got some, you know, I pray every time I sit down. Every time I sit down.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Some things are just decorations up there. I can't lie to you. Every time I sit courts out, I look up a deck because I used to go up a deck. And I pray, a big prayer. just like, thank you God for letting me sit here this and now. I used to be up there for old time sake one time. Shit, they used to put me in the coblah clutch up there, no. Macho man, Randy Savage and all that.
Starting point is 00:37:16 He can go back up there. There's not enough nostalgia in the world for him going back up there. That's what a close line you and say, hey, buddy, why they lift you up in the floor after they clothes lined you. That was new chalibri. He's praying of the gods of the hard words to sit on the floor. Man, it's a beautiful. beautiful thing, you know, like coming from where you come from, you know, cooking in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:37:40 And now you own this big establishment. You got, I've been in supermarkets and sort of sourcing the supermarket. Sources everywhere. I mean, this is huge. How does your family, how does your family, not meaning your immediate wife, but, you know, your uncles, your aunts, you know. It's amazing because they're so proud. And, you know, no matter where they are, they see it in the stores or, you know, go to the restaurant. I mean, the family's here all the time.
Starting point is 00:38:08 My parents are here all the time. The time is big one family. Yeah. How important is family. It's important. That's why food is so important because that's like, that's where you get together. You know, it's like, it's like the fireplace. It's like this is where everyone gathers around and that's why it's so important.
Starting point is 00:38:24 You know, we put, not just us. I mean, plenty. You must have grown up with amazing, you know, big meals with the whole family around. You know, I'm the fakes. It's Italian you know. Every Sunday I'm eating Italian. You're real Italian to me? Go get your olives.
Starting point is 00:38:39 There's people who think you're going to get your Casabotanah. I'm not going to lie. You what a cap moment on here. Like, probably the only Spanish guy that are. Who everything? Spanish Italian. Man, I performed one time. When you call me, your, when you call me the phone rings,
Starting point is 00:38:55 Giuseppe Grossso. You know, listen, I performed. It's Staten Island one year. For a bunch of old Italian men, they still had the mask on with the air. With the pump, yeah. You know who can confirm this story? Bo Dido.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Bo Dido was there that night, too. Sounds like he's the one that arranged this guy. They are on top of the chairs. Sweet Caroline. There ain't no other Puerto Rican have been in that environment like me. You perform Sweet Caroline in Saddam Island? I'm just saying, you know, they go,
Starting point is 00:39:29 where you go, Boca Raton, you know, all that. Right? But what I'm trying to tell you is, trust me, I've been indoors. Spanish people don't get in the Italian community. You know, I feel like both you guys have been adopted by the Italian community. Yeah, we have him. He's right now. He got facts.
Starting point is 00:39:51 He got something going on out there where is Jada because of Italian to the point my daughter's asking me, is he really Italian? I said, course he was going to stuff like that. I said, of course he was. His grandfather is from Memphis, this. Like, get out of here. Why are you wasting my time with this? She's like dead ass. Like, yo, dad, they've seen he's Italian.
Starting point is 00:40:08 I said, can you, are you Italian? Yeah, he's got to ask something in town. Yeah. You got to get the 23 in me. Holy shit, man. Yo, where are your parents from? Is grandmother's about partisan? It is.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Ah, is Janet, let me see. Is Jada just Italian? I mean? This is crazy. Get the merch. Get the merch. Yeah, Jayden, you're a world or your machine. Boy, this guy making money from all over.
Starting point is 00:40:37 We got a restaurant collab working on. Me and Jada. Let me ask you a question. What does the future the flight? What do you think? Which is beautiful, man. Yeah, but what are you thinking? How are we in?
Starting point is 00:40:50 Vegas. You're all right? You're in the whole life? Yeah, we're, I mean, you know, we're going to continue to grow. I think, I think it's important. We do, we do fun projects. We continue to to not just take. things for the money.
Starting point is 00:41:02 As soon as you start making decisions for the money, it's the beginning of the end. That was the jewel of the day, right? That's the beginning of the end. You got to keep making decisions as if it was your first spot. Why did you get into it?
Starting point is 00:41:15 You know, keep first like your last. And stay on it. Don't get distracted by what's going on out there. But what people are offering you, is it something that's exciting? Will the team be excited to do it? Will your people be excited to do it?
Starting point is 00:41:28 If the answer is yes, then maybe it's right. Oh, I think. I think I want to switch, Danny. He got the, this is the one I looked at. Yeah, I mean. This that shit. Want to put it on? Let's try it on.
Starting point is 00:41:38 The fabric. I think, look, he said this one. My son said, no, go back. You got my measurements. I think this fabric. Go ahead. You should have fired. So I think what, I think we're going to go beyond restaurants.
Starting point is 00:41:52 I think we're going to open hotels. I think we're going to open, you know, residential buildings and communities. And, you know, we're going to do in the, you know, the sauce and the stores. I think we're going to keep. pushing what beyond what just the restaurants are. The lifestyle. Yeah, the lifestyle. Yeah, the lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:42:07 That's what we're doing today. The lifestyle. It's fine. And I think the future is really bright for us. You know, we're still a young company, but we've got some years in our belt. We've got some great people that can do a lot of work. Yo, Ricky, what's up? Ricky, the face, man.
Starting point is 00:42:21 You guys enjoying him? Ricky, the face. Yo, Ricky, let me see that tune over here. Absolutely. I've been like. You know, Ricky's got a beautiful voice if you ever need anybody to come. Listen, let me tell you. You need a guy.
Starting point is 00:42:32 You ever need a guy. It's Italian. I need a tune for this. The first two times I came to this spot, Carbone, you ain't charged me. They were so mad at me. Steve Stalpeckos, all of them. They had the biggest thing,
Starting point is 00:42:47 Yo, Fasjo's the only guy I ever seen, not charged in Carbone. This is that. He was blasting hip hop on here. Yo, Fat Joe, Fats Joe's in here. They was flat. Nah, it was a movie. Everybody who was a regular already,
Starting point is 00:43:00 they was dumb tight. They was like, yo, how'd you got that off? You out there in Dubai, right? Yeah. Dubai. Tell me about it.
Starting point is 00:43:09 That, last year we opened, at the end of the year, we opened London, Dubai, and we opened another Las Vegas. That's how we closed the year last year. You got two Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:43:17 We got two carbones in Las Vegas. We got a Cadell's in Las Vegas. Vegas is good to us. Cedles is yours as well. Yeah, yeah. Cedells is good to us. My resources. I didn't,
Starting point is 00:43:27 I'm under a rock. You're not using your resources. I'm not using my resource. Great. I've been telling you that. I'm trying to get you to open the book up. I got to use the book. You got to use the book.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Oh, here's our fish. Gentlemen, if I may. I like the flayed this beautiful Dover Sol. Go ahead. How many Dover So does you flay? Today's the first one, but I think other than that, maybe two, three thousand. Maybe it was for 13 years. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Oh, did they got a Bronzino going for Joe? Yes, yeah. Okay, great. Absolutely. He requested a Bronzino. So he would do a little certain. Ricky's day one, day one. 13 over 13 years?
Starting point is 00:44:04 I don't know. Day one. I never lost, you know. But I always enjoy doing it because it's a beautiful fish. Yeah, Doversol, you know, you guys made it cool, right? It's not normally
Starting point is 00:44:16 an Italian dish. It's like an old Jewish lady's fish, right? It is popular amongst that community, yes. Yeah, when you go into the diners, it's like an old Jewish lady is like the Dovassol. When they try to shoot that at me up like, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:37 when they try to shoot that at me up like, yeah, I need that blondzino, you know. They tried to cats delis. Zeezes did a pop up with cats. Yeah, Miami brought it to Miami. Hundreds of people out there. I think Katz is the best restaurant in New York. Cats is dope.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Can't beat it. Can't be it. Can't be it. 1887 or something? 1887? I was there when the owner was fat. Got spinning now. Because I'll see if this guy works.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Let me see. Oh. Wow. Wow. That's you, that's you, that's like the, that was like, Heathcliff, the face. Ladies and gentlemen, the face. I practiced on night.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Oh, that was like real life. That was like, he's a good. Let's do it with the love now. Let's see what the sauce. Oh, yeah, look at this. Foucata style. The only way to do it. Nice.
Starting point is 00:45:28 You got capers in there, tomato, a little bit of butter. are the best. Yeah. A little bit of citrus to bring it up. He's a vicious. It's a beautiful thing. He did in real life. He did the heat cliff.
Starting point is 00:45:40 He did. He clit. He's clif in real life. Make it nice. The whole thing like he has the soul while he waits for the Bronzino. Yes, sir. The Bronzino.
Starting point is 00:45:50 What you need? Of your favorite hip-hop songs. I won't corner you into your favorite artists, but hip-hop songs. The evils? Deevils. Fire. The evils.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Jesus. Yeah, Mario. No, no, no. Mario know what he's good. He'd be, you know. I mean, I remember where I was, like, kind of where I, I remember a moment where I feel like I kind of, I discovered it for the first time. I was, like, maybe 15 years old, 14, 15 years old. I'm in the back of my, my best friends, older brothers, Lincoln LSC.
Starting point is 00:46:25 A boat of a two-door car. That's that big boy. A boat. That's how I learned. It's driving a Lincoln. Baby Blue Lincoln LSC. I'm in the backseat and I hear Big get on
Starting point is 00:46:35 the radio for the first time and it just just takes you and it's like the voice took you. What is that? What is that? Like it's a moment of discovery. You're just like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:46 This is something different. Branzino. And then I do, I do, for me, I do believe that like kind of Frank gave way to Jay to me, like the chairman of the chairman. Like that was a thing. And I remember the first time Steve brings Jay in
Starting point is 00:47:02 and like, you're just like, oh my God, I had this little tiny restaurant and the guys here. Like the guy, the chairman. I definitely grew up with hip hop. I mean, that was, that was, you know, I remember every, you know, every album of the summer just coming out of every car window.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Like, you just don't feel it kind of like that anymore. Absolutely. Usually it doesn't move the same. I mean, it moves, but it moves differently. You know, like when you would hear the song of the album of the summer from, you know, in May or June coming out of the cars. For me, it was always LL.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Like, L.L. Like, L.L. L.L. is one of my favorite. whenever they would be on the radio and they'd be like brand new LL. I don't care what highway it was on. I just pulled right over. Open the windows, blast the music,
Starting point is 00:47:40 and then it'd be, you know, this is hard to say. Everybody in the wrong way. And I'd be like, yo. I never, as an LL fan, I never heard a Wax song to me. Like I always felt like even when they was like, yo, walking with the Pantho, whatever was it?
Starting point is 00:48:00 still was it to you. Something like a phenomenon. Whatever nobody liked, I loved. Like, I got it. Like, I was like... Yeah, too many. Nobody and didn't like...
Starting point is 00:48:12 No, I know. I used to love the lover boy stuff, like lounging, like, when he would go real lover boy? When you go for the ladies, yeah. See, my thing is, the way he has... He always thought about the ladies.
Starting point is 00:48:22 He had smokers, and then he'll come with an all-right album and then smoke. Once they doubt him, he'll come back with this... Five Bloss. He's blacking him. Like, he needed that to just motivate him. There's one more thing.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Your Bronzino right here. Get your Brownsino for you, sir? I need that. Give him a little veal parmesan. Ville pundum. The world famous. Thank you. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:48:45 The world famous. You got a zero win on my man, Ricky, the face is swag about you. You see how he's doing this? This is nothing old. Don't try this at home. Don't try it at home. It's very dangerous.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Absolutely. Absolutely. Would you like so? Ricky, how long have you been in the business? I've been here. I've been in the business. Yeah, maybe almost 20 years, but I've been here. 13 years, very proud of it. We've only been here 13 years. It seemed like, yeah, the shorts, thinned hit.
Starting point is 00:49:19 You ever served some guys where you got a little nervous, something, a little Wiggatoni might have fell or something? We try not to get nervous at the restaurant. You know, all these guys. Ricky and I made a lasagna for Mr. Scorsese that we'll never forget. Wow. Kind of on the fly.
Starting point is 00:49:36 He wanted a lasagna. You wanted a lasagna. What are you going to tell him, Mr. Scorsese, you know? Mr. Scorsese came in. He had a chef the slice of the table. He came over, we did the whole thing. It was very nice. It was a very proud moment.
Starting point is 00:49:54 I'm Luke Wilson. Join me each week for Film Never Lies. Since retiring from the NFL, I've had a lot of my mind, and now got my own show. So if you're tired of lazy takes, if you want honest conversations, join us each week. Film Never Lies, available on all TSN platforms in the IHeartRadio app. I'm Clayton Eckerd, and in 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan.
Starting point is 00:50:18 He became the first Bachelor to ever have his final rose rejected. The internet turned on him. If I could press a button and rewind it all I would. But what happened to Clayton after the show made even bigger headlines. It began as a one-night stand and ended in a courtroom with Clayton at the center of a very strange paternity scandal. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. Please search warrant. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. This is love trapped. This season, an epic battle of He Said She Said, and the search for accountability in a sea of lies. Listen to Love Trapped on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Next Monday, our 2026 IHeart Podcast Awards are happening live at South by Southwest.
Starting point is 00:51:21 It's the biggest night in podcasting. We'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative talent and creators in the industry. And the winner is creativity, knowledge, and passion will all be on full display. Thank you so much. Iheart radio. Thank you to all the other nominees. You guys are awesome. Watch live next Monday at 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific free at Veeps.com or the Veeps app.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. My latest episode is with Hilary Duff, singer, actress, and multi-platinum artist. Hillary opens up about complicated family dynamics, motherhood, and releasing our first record in over 10 years. We talk about what it's taken to grow up in the entertainment industry and stay grounded through every chapter. It's a raw and honest conversation about identity, evolution, and building a life that truly matters. You desire in family like this picture, and that's not reality a lot of the times for people. My sister and I don't speak. It's definitely a very painful part of my life, and I hope it's not forever, but it's for right now.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. Ricky's got some stories. Of course, yo, Ricky, we want to hear one of these stories. We got some stories. That's what I'm trying to get you to talk about, but you keep moving.
Starting point is 00:52:49 All right, all right. Tell us a story. Storytime with Ricky. We're on Netflix, Ricky. Yeah, we want to hear a legendary one. One of my favorite stories, if I may, was when I took care of Mr. Pesci at this table. This same table?
Starting point is 00:53:02 Same table. This is the table. This is the table. By the way, there was a restaurant in the Bronx called the Golden Elephant. The press he used to go to her. What are you on me to do? We're going to go in there.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Who's the name of these places? The Golden Ellies? What the hell of their service? Yeah, what was they served at the Golden Eleph? What was the signature dish? Listen, bro, that's where them guys used to go at that time. Who are guys? Goldenelope.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Near Pelham Park, but yeah. Shout to Salabatello his father used to own the joints. So what happened when Mr. Pesci? So Mr. Pesci came in and he sat down here. And he said, He was by himself. And I said, you know, I understand you have a few of your friends coming to join you. Is there anything I could bring you?
Starting point is 00:53:44 Why are you waiting for your guests? He said, you know what? How's your bartender here? I said, I think he's pretty good. So I said, why? What's up? What do you need? He goes, I want a martini.
Starting point is 00:53:54 But you had to tell him to shake it. Shake it as hard as he could. Just when he thinks he shook it enough, bring it back and shake it again. He said it just like that. Sure enough, like we brought it over, he took a sip. Ricky, do me a favor. Have the bartender shake this again for me. Two hours, please.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Never three. Two hours? Yeah, three's for Zamboca. Two is for Martinez. That's what he told me. So then, you know, we took it back to him. Shake it for two hours. And he brought it down.
Starting point is 00:54:18 And he brought it down. No, sorry, two olives. Two hours. Two hours. Yeah, two hours. Yeah, two hours. That was a big olive guy. So he shook it, right?
Starting point is 00:54:27 Brut back. And then he, he's thanking nice and easy. He goes, that was perfect. Thank you so much. Then he made me take my jacket off because, you know, you guys look a little too fancy. So we did a little, yeah. So we did it out like this.
Starting point is 00:54:38 And then we did it out like this. And then. We started dancing in the dining room. It was a beautiful thing. Joe's the man. Joe's the man. I remember a night we had just opened, and I was in the kitchen right here.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Busy night, and they come into the kitchen. One of the managers from the kitchen, they said, chef, Mr. Pellegrino's at the bar. Frank Pellegrino from Rios. He said, okay, you tell me the second he sits down because I want to make sure he has a perfect experience.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Okay, no problem. A few minutes later, Frank walks from the bar over there into the kitchen. He's not sitting down. He walks right into the kitchen. He walks right up to me. He says, you, Carbone? I said, yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:55:17 I said, how are you, Mr. Billy Greenland? Thank you for coming. He was, the place looks good, kid, and walked up. I remember that, me. He didn't have anything. He walked in. He looked around. He walked into the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:55:30 He made sure he met me. He said, the place looks good. And he walked up. Yeah, I remember, he was at the bar. He was digging. Never to be seen again. He was dancing. How was it?
Starting point is 00:55:38 Never came back. I had a friend. I had a friend. He's not my friend no more. But his former father-in-law was this rich guy used to sell marble. But I mean, like, to all the buildings, he was super rich. He couldn't get in rails. And the guy, who was my friend, used to tell him all the time,
Starting point is 00:56:01 yo, let my guy in Fat Joe, the rapper, get you in rails. He went with the owner of the Nets. They didn't let him in. If you don't come, they turn down Madonna, right? They don't care. He went with some other rich guys. They turned him down. He finally eventually got in and when he sat down in the rest of him, he asked me.
Starting point is 00:56:22 He said, man, he said, you never hear this guy Fat Joe? He said, Fat Joe, as many of he comes in, we bring a table, we make the table in the middle of the thing for him. Fat Joe gets a table wherever he wants some rails, this and that. Oh boy, he called up and son-in-law like, yo, I didn't know your man. Had the power like that in here. That's that Henry Hill table. Yeah, they bring the table. I'll tell you something.
Starting point is 00:56:50 I'm going to tell you something. I went one time. There's a true story. But you want me to say the name. I can't say the name. Say it. No, I can't say the name. I mean, you can't leave
Starting point is 00:56:58 where he's a friend or friend no more. No, no, no. I can't say this. One thing I love doing, although I don't do that with you, I don't play with you, but I love arriving with no reservations. Any way I go.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Fat Joe, I want to see if we can do. doing. Right? You just want to test them? I just love not being reservations. I don't know why. I just that's my thing. So what is the percentage of that working? All the time. But let me
Starting point is 00:57:25 explain, sonny, all the time. It's 100% I'm in a 100% ratio. Don't do that because I'll be asking you, you know, whatever you're coming through. But I'm a hundred percenter. Like, what time? He's like, I'm outside. One day I'm walking the joint. And LeBron
Starting point is 00:57:41 James, it's in Miami. When he played for Miami. It's Valentine's Day. LeBron James is there with his wife in the hallway, like, waiting. Right? Not a good time. It's a ram pack. I'm with my wife. She was like, no, it's another spot in Miami. Gabiano. Gabiano. Right? It's my spot.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Shout out Gabbyano. So it's beyond sold out. So I walk up there. Obviously, this girl has no clue who fat Joe is. I go up in there. I go, you. She said, you got a reservation. I said, no, I ain't got a reservation. So she says, worldwide. So she says, oh, it's a four hour wait. Four hours. I said four hours. I'm looking at us.
Starting point is 00:58:24 I said four hours. She looks to the side at LeBron James, the king of Miami. When he was winning chips, she said, everybody's waking. So I sit back and I go like this. Because there's certain names, you might think I talk a lot. But there's certain names I don't drop no matter what. Life, death, nothing, I won't. So when I look at, I'm embarrassed, my wife says, I told you.
Starting point is 00:58:52 You said, well, you know, such and such, send me. They crack open the champagne. Why didn't you tell us? Come here. They walk me and sign the restaurant. They pour a champagne. Right here that went to table. And LeBron's still waiting?
Starting point is 00:59:07 You still wait. But the name I dropped was so legendary. It was a name of names. I said, well, you know, Mr. Such is. It says to, boom, the champagne, they pop this shit open. What are you, what are you waiting for? Please, come inside. Like, they pot, they got, they doing the shit.
Starting point is 00:59:27 I see, yo, I had to drop the name. That's like you, too, time of felon. You go to spot, they front of you. You be like, yo, fat Joe set me. They might pop the champagne for you. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, I've done a felon. I've done it too time of felon.
Starting point is 00:59:42 But, yo, Mario, great time with you. Carbone, Miami. May 1st to the 3rd. Carbone Beach. Carbone B. Oh, that's the joint you always throw out there. Yeah, yeah. What's that, F1 week?
Starting point is 00:59:54 F1 week. F1 weekend. We got to go out there. You got to go out there. You got to get you out there. You got to do. Should we do a show from the road? The new Yala is.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Oh, man. Do a show from the road? Just doing one for that. No, and J. That's a different type of chemistry. You know why I'm fast. You got to do one when I'm not fast. You got to do it made first.
Starting point is 01:00:15 I'm fast. No, right now. I think I wouldn't have been a blittery. No, you're showing off now. You fast and with all you got that type of, um, willpower with regga-tony in front of you and everything. I'm impressed. I'm not fasting.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Oh, to see. That bronzino. I see you at this game, too. No, no. Oh, you got a stunt. I heard about it too. I ran it to, I ran into, I ran into, I ran into, I ran into, I ran into, I ran into, I ran into, I ran into, I heard about it.
Starting point is 01:00:47 He's like, I mentioned this to Joe. Let me tell you, so Steve Stout, Steven Stout. Shoutouts, out. You never brought me a dollar in your life. You're the richest guy. I go one time for Saudi Arabia with Steve. The minute we land, he got 62 meetings in the lobby of the whole chat. Like, Steve Stout just gets money wherever he goes.
Starting point is 01:01:10 He got all these Saudis coming in there. I could never get a dollar with him. But one thing I can count. down on this, the second I grabbed the glizzy, he had the camera in my face like this. Yo, you eating the glizzy? I see your Steve style. Maybe you want to bring me a Saudi dollar or something, man. Maybe you want to get me a fragrance or something, man. Try to get some money. He caught me on camera with the glizzy. Steve Joe's open to a fragrance deal.
Starting point is 01:01:39 No, I'm just saying. I stand on brand. I stand there. Everybody knows I love a glizzy. I went to the game. I got me a glitchy. What's the problem with that? I don't have a problem with it. Seems in line. You don't got a problem with that. That's what he needed. He need a glizzy endorsement.
Starting point is 01:01:55 I need a glissia. Oscar Meyer. Oh, we got a flag on the blame. Too much glizzy dialogue. Can't talk glissies that far off. Nah, no, not. He brought it up. I didn't bring it up.
Starting point is 01:02:11 You said I was in... I heard about it, but I didn't bring it up. I wasn't going to say nothing. You brought it up. Steve Stoules. He was about to say Steve Stoucester. No, he was... Yo, bring me one of them all,
Starting point is 01:02:21 them jars before we get out of here. Bring me one of them carbone jars so they don't know what to get in the supermarket. You got a gift to everybody. We love it. We're in 30,000. 30,000 stores. 30,000 stores for the whole family.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Look at this. My family uses this. This is amazing. You can try. You can try. This is amazing stuff. Shout out to the love. This is it.
Starting point is 01:02:48 My family, the lovies. If you can't get an appointment, at least you can buy something this in the supermarket. Yes, you can. Carbone at home. You know what I mean? You can do it at home. Carbone at home. Even you, Joe. Your Mario, do I get a discount for buying a property and you're building or something? Whatever you're going to build. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Yeah, I want to discount. I got a friends and family read for you. No, I need it. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. I know it's going to be amazing. I got you.
Starting point is 01:03:17 We got you on a hit number. What area is it? It should be in Miami? You're going to do it in Miami? No, it's being built right now. It's an edge water. It's on the water. It's gorgeous.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Being built right now. 20 floors are already built. Beautiful, beautiful. Forgeous condos. Edgewater. I got a friends and family number four. Name some favorite restaurants. Just name two or three that's,
Starting point is 01:03:38 I got one in mind. That's what I thought of. That's not Italian that you love going to. Anywhere? Anywhere? I mean, cats is for sure. Sure. Katz's, Peter Lugers. I mean, the old New York. I went there two days ago with Long Island, Peter Lugas.
Starting point is 01:03:53 The one is the one on Great Nuck? Yeah, them Costa Camby wasn't their conto. Man, they had that steak this one, no reservations. No reservations. Walked it. I just walked up with that beauty face. 100% sex. I was out there.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Tell him Fat Joe sent you. Fat Joe came up in there. Costa, what's up? Brother, y'all, what's going on at stake? We're losing it. losing that, man. We're losing the traditional, man. Thank God for Carbone. This beer fly is sexy on another level, but we
Starting point is 01:04:24 got that real fool, you know. These new places you know, it's just horrible. You know, it's almost like hip-hop. It's any art. But yeah, hip-a-you-can use a hip-hop as an analogy. Any art, though, you have, you know, you got to keep a certain amount of tradition going.
Starting point is 01:04:42 It's always important that somebody pops off and does something different and new and there's a new style that comes, but it's generally always rooted in the classic, you know, like it's not going to come overnight. Nothing's going to come overnight. There's no success is going to come overnight. What it should happen is you should learn and be based in the class, be a master of the classic.
Starting point is 01:05:03 How hard is you? Because the other night I went to dinner with a friend of mine, he owns Italian restaurants. We went to Carbone in Miami two, three days ago. How hard is you, as in the restaurant, owner to not criticize other restaurants in their food and stuff like that. I got the best friend. He's just chef, chef, chef Mark, he criticized. I don't give a damn if we went to White Castle.
Starting point is 01:05:27 He'd be like, yo, they don't make the bread like they used to disdust. How hard is it for you to sit down in a restaurant? It's harder for me to sit. I'm the biggest critic when I'm sitting in one of my places. If I'm in one of my places, which I think is a very important thing to do, right? I think it's more important for me to be a customer these days than to be back there with them, I think, get your perspective, the perspective of the customer.
Starting point is 01:05:50 And when I'm eating at one of my restaurants, I'm a very difficult critic. If I'm at somebody else's place, I just turn it off. Oh, you turn it on? That's good. It's easy for me to just be like, I don't like that. Well, my friends hit a chef. I'm not, it's too hard to be a critic for all of my places. I just want to relax. I just want to be in a somebody else's
Starting point is 01:06:08 great. It's great. That's great. I'm going to give you all your love and all the present. That's great. If it's not great, I'm like you a mouth. Malsh. Keep moving. Like, all good. Yeah, because I hate that. I got friends that are all chefs and their own restaurants. They go somewhere. They criticize this.
Starting point is 01:06:24 They criticize that. I'm just sitting there like, yo, bro. Like, just enjoy the moment. You know what I mean? That's important. Enjoy the people you're with, the table. It's also so much more than just the meal. It's the people you're with.
Starting point is 01:06:40 It's where you're at. You know, it's your level of comfort. Like, everything equals the meal. Like, it's all part of it. All the ingredients of it is not just the food. I have not been to a carbone where the staff has not been great. Have not greeted you with respect and love. I have not been nowhere near any of your establishments
Starting point is 01:07:02 where people ain't happy to see you. They treat your knife. If I walk in Zizi's over here, you got the Dominican girl up front. She's nice. Brings you up. The guys take care of you upstairs. In Miami, you can forget it.
Starting point is 01:07:15 They bring you out of the car in. Yeah, they walk you. No, they walk you in. You get out the car. They walk in you in. Like, yo, what's going on? Guys, this, this. You got Ricky here.
Starting point is 01:07:28 You know, that's one thing. And the most important thing in the restaurant business, the most important thing in the, it's choke, right? Listen, is feeling like the restaurant knows you. Whether you the richest, you could be Derek Jeter over there, you could be the little guy who said, yo, it's my birthday and they got a reservation, they come in here. Everybody got to feel special.
Starting point is 01:07:55 That's what I always thought about, when I thought about, when we first opened this place, and I thought about that front door, I was like, how do I give every person that comes in here the sensation of being Henry Hill walking in the back of Coppahabana? Right. So like the music's playing. He goes back door.
Starting point is 01:08:14 No, I don't wait in line. someone, how are you, Mr. Hill? Blah, blah, blah. And, like, all the way to get into the table, like, how do I treat this place as that movie and give everyone as close to that experience is when the door opens, they get hit with the music, the smell of the food?
Starting point is 01:08:31 Someone greets them, it's busy, but, like, I got you. And I give everyone that little bit of, that cinematic moment. I don't know if you trained your staff how to treat people. This is a movie. You cannot get a warmer reception than come here. And let me tell you something because, you know, I've been on a real diet. You know, fat, you're not so fat anymore. No, I know.
Starting point is 01:08:49 But them three color cookies you throw on that table at the end of the meal. Yo, Ricky, get three color cookies. They'll take my diabetes sensor all the way up. Oh, you know, the librette's things. A new endorsement. You want to turn your diabetes. You want to turn them in the Libre three? The three color cookies, man.
Starting point is 01:09:14 I can't resist that thing in the middle of resisting. I can't. We're going to get you something. Oh, the way up. Thank you so much, Mario Carbone. This ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking kiss.
Starting point is 01:09:29 We hear, legendary. This is one of your first bone doing your road games. Live from the back of Carbone. You know, we went to Callaghan's house. I think that was our first road trip. Yeah, Callage trip. L.A., but nothing like, you know, Carbone, it's legendary.
Starting point is 01:09:45 I know the history of every, every bone and literally of this place. So, pause. History of every bone is sick. Oh, man, that was ill. The cookie. And there's plenty more that came from. What's the real name for this cookie?
Starting point is 01:10:08 This has a lot of names. This has a lot of names. What's the real name is the three-color cookie, All right. That is the name. Ramos? Ramos. Ramos.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Seven layers. Tri-colors. Yeah. You got a lot of names. But that's New York right there. That's here. This is every Italian bakery, pastry shop. I love it.
Starting point is 01:10:27 They got to be served cold. Shout out to my man. Right out of the fruit. Marker from the 40-o bakery. He does it for me sugar-free out in Queens, the story of Queens. How he's making all sugar-free? He's making them sugar-free. I hope he's not lying.
Starting point is 01:10:40 You know, I've seen the ingredients. It can't taste like that. that it don't got sugar. Sugar-free. Where's your place that you want to call it? Shout out, Marco, you're a magician. Marco. You're a magician.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Michael. You're a magician. Michael's a good guy. Let's just say, let's sugar add it. If we want to keep it a bubble. Yes, I think that's the... That's the perfection.
Starting point is 01:11:00 This thing got the Libra 3 going to Libra 6. Yeah. Joe and Jay, the baby, the biggest Netflix. Carbone. Make some noise for our gosh. Mario. We appreciate it. Mario Calpone,
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