Joe and Jada - Fat Joe, Jadakiss & Lola Brooke talk MASSIVE changes in last 20 years of hip hop

Episode Date: February 17, 2026

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by up-and-coming Brooklyn rapper Lola Brooke. Joe and Jada ask Lola about growing up in Biggie's neighborhood of Bed-Stuy, her smash hit "You" with Bryson Tiller, what it means for her to come from the lineage of New York female rappers, and growing up on LimeWire to download the latest Lil Wayne, Meek Mill, and 50 Cent tracks. Joe also tells the story behind the making of his hit "What's Luv?" and Jadakiss explains why he knew "Why?" would be huge. Joe and Jada is now STREAMING ON NETFLIX! All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'll be in the studio like, oh, I got to get this shit off. Because if I don't, I'm going to be going crazy. Y'all, this is Joe Crack the Dawn. Your boy, Jada. You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. What the Mondami said, Jay said to the Moire? He said every name. He said every name.

He said, Jason. That's the studio. Savio, Rolando, Torres. They named you a hundred names, you shit. Just think it's crazy. Every show legendary, every show iconic. You know what I mean? At this point,

he just crushed your shit. We just fried. But today's guests, think of hardworking. You know, I never really seen a female. Napoleon. I mean, meaning she got a she packs a big punch

paws. If you need one if not, let it go. Big energy, she brings a big presence. You can tell she loves her mom. She comes from a good she comes from some good raising of a good mother

represents Brooklyn to the fullest. Brooklyn. She's connected. You know, she's not. She knocked one out the park, maybe one or two. I got to look back at the billboards, but she works very hard. Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Lola, bro.

Oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, I like that intro. That was fire. You like that intro? You like that intro. No doubt, baby. Shut out the mom doops. You know, this is what I say.

Hold on before we even. Did you have another name? Um, Big Gator. Before you was Lola, before it was it? When you did this show, You opened up for me somewhere at one time. We had a show of Syracuse. No, it was.

You was Lola Brooke. That was the Albany. That's how long she'd been going. She'd been putting in work way back then. I like to say he was very humble. And when I seen you finally hit one out the park, you know, I was proud of you. A lot of people don't put that. You was in the trenches.

You was doing shows. You was getting your name out there early and not just waiting for Plymouth Rock to land on you. You was out there. making your, you know what I mean, making your chop. So that's a good, that salute to you, to the success. Go ahead, crack.

Now, I'm just saying, the way you're moving is the way I wish all a young guy rappers would move. You got sad, you got, you got, oh, G's doing you. Shout out to Team 80. I mean, my brother. Team, team what? Team 80.

Team 80. My thing is, well, you got the right people been around the business for a while, and they know how to get you out of trouble. You know, a lot of these young dudes, and they ain't got like no unk, no real OGs, positive people, I can see where they fuck up at.

So I say that all the time with the young guys coming up. We need an OG to just tell you, yo, don't be impulsive. Don't move like that. You're going to get yourself jammed up. Yes. Because we're getting tired of the next rapper coming home from jail, right?

This shit is out of control right now, right? One go in, one come out, one go in, one come out. You know, this shit is played. out. But I love your team and how you move. Welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. I love it here. Let me tell y'all, they was popping mad. There was popping mad shit. Before the camera... Oh, my gink, my gum came out.

Before the cameras came out, they off and on the camera, they're the same. They're the same. They're the same. Off and on the camera. Yeah. They're the same. I'm jealous of them. I'm jealous of her. What? My gum.

Maybe two. I knew I was supposed to have it. I was trying to hide it. Two B. T awards it goes or lap or whatever. When it was, we had to, we caught a rat out home together. Oh, yes. We had to, we both in first class.

You know what I mean? We got the, it wasn't the seats that turned to a bed, I don't think. But she folded her body. She was the most. comfortable as person in the dog. She, she would have thought she was on in California. I walked by, I said, damn, I want to get caught.

This is a bad right here. This leg under. This leg over. This is a bad right here. That's just like a California. I was, I'm like, damn, I want to get caught. You don't remember. He did that shit to me one time. We took a, uh. But it wasn't bad. He just, you, you're a big dog now.

It was. You were still comfortable. Whatever I had It didn't look how comfortable You was We were on a JetBlue Mint to L.A. Mm-hmm.

The man before the plane took off this guy went to sleep Like he's describing you When the shit landed He got up, I was pissed I'm looking at Jail. I was just gonna fucking sleep

like a page on this shit I can't even sleep on the fucking plane like that I said, motherfucker knocked up which way or two Before the shit move He's like You know, if I

I played that game, taking pictures of while you're sleeping. I have... Oh, you didn't do it like that. Dictionaries on Rich Play. He's the before the shit move, he's like that. That's how I'll be. I want somebody to be scared with me on the plane. You know what I'm saying?

Motherfucking don't want to be scared with me. He's like, yo, every man for himself, you figure it out. Get him, sleep before the flight take off. You can't recline and that. Your back, the old mess stuff. Yeah, they don't let you... You gotta wait till you get. You know what's crazy when you private?

You could do jumping jacks why the shit take costs. Oh, I gotta get there. Jumping jacks, backflip. Them niggins don't give a fuck. Watch, on private, they be like, do you want to put your seatbelt on or not? Like, so all that shit,

they be running, like, seat up, sir. They'll wait, you up. You're like, seat up, sir. Make sure you on air. All that shit is bullshit, by the way. No, no. No. No, no, it's a fact.

All that shit is bullshit. When you on the private... Safety measures. That's shit that's gonna have. Commercial. My man, Raoul, rest of peace, was not afraid to fly. When that shit was landing, the more turbulent, he'd be in the front with the pilots.

Like, yeah, look how he's good. I'd be like, yo, and, you know, at that time, you're supposed to be super strapped up. Like, it's bullshit. All them rules and all that shit is bullshit, man. And bullshit to you. Yeah. The rules. He never did.

Plains is safe, man. Don't play with it. Did you think that was a... Did you know that was out of the park or... You had to work it. We always got to work every single. You know what I mean? You got to do a bunch of shit you don't want to do

and everything's savering them to tell you to do and radio stations and DJs and all that. But when it got... When you know it was one of them ones, I did that feel for you. I ain't going for... Just recently, I just started realizing like I had a hit.

I didn't feel it. I've been working for so long. Like, I've been raised by my mom. She's a hard-working black woman. All I know is to work hard, and I don't reward myself because it's like, it's things that you're supposed to do. Someone don't play with it pop.

I was just excited because, you know, as an artist, when you feel a neglected and you're not getting an attention that you feel like you're supposed to get, when you finally get it, it go over your head. So. You know the whack part about this business is when you get one,

they're working you so much so you can't even go to your normal spot that you will go to and look at everybody fucking with your shit. You're like, you don't even get that. You know what I'm saying? You got to lean back. Number one,

the ballfuckers like, yo, flex-plated 400 times. I'm in fucking Denver, Colorado performance somewhere like, right? You do not get to enjoy unless you one of them dudes. You don't give a fuck about a dollar.

You don't care about none. You could sit there and be like, all right, my shit, popping. But when you get a hit, it's always like, look, it ain't never going to, look, you're hard, hard working. That's one thing we got to say about you. But let me

tell you, it never changed. You know now. You've got to adapt. I've been in the game. I've been in the game 30 years. It still don't change. You got to say that enjoy your fruits of labor. That shit don't work like that. It's like, yo, what's the next, where we got to go. What we got to do? Why we got to conquer?

What we got to do? You know, this shit don't never, especially where I don't know your finances. You know, you grew up with your moms and your pops. No, just my mom's. See, at home. So, you know, you're trying to... I'm just trying to pay bills on time.

Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm generational. I never had nobody before me make money like me. You could probably look my family tree 100 years. Everybody's been on welfare for 100 years. So I'm generating. I just, I dropped my Section 8 when I popped. I'm like, oh, I can leave Section 8 now.

My mom's passed down the sectionate. I still got mine. You're a liar. I wish I could have kept mine. I was looking for somebody to hold it down. You don't hear me, you know how much I'll tell you about my section 8. You know you can't say that line.

He makes you look crazy what he said. I don't play with my son. He doesn't. He doesn't disrespect. Section 8, me. You know how hard it is to get Section 8 right now? Don't even play with my shit. I got cousins in Section 8.

They know how to play that game. That shit is not easy. I don't play about my... I feel the same way about my hard drive. You got to go to a month or something. Yeah, listen. You hear that's how my mom's... I feel the same way about my hard drives

as my Section 8, Nick. As you should. I was holding it down for a minute, but I ain't having to have anybody to pass it down to. I'm the only child, too, so... I'm the only child, too, so I was trying to pass it down. I was trying to pass it down. Fuck this Section 8.

They weren't let me. Listen to me. Yeah. Hold up. Hold up. Fuck the section. I'm trying to explain, said of you. You think if Jay-Z wanted to stay on Section 8,

he would ever be a billionaire ever own a building like this? That whole shit is a gimmick. I'm going for billionaire status with Section 8. Nika, I don't got nothing to do with you did. I'm trying to. I dig it. I'm calling you full of shit, man. I found the first slide, man.

All my Section 8 people in the comments, get them. Sad. Let me check. No. I stand strong. about sex. No. I'm sectioning.

You ain't let me finish my statement. If you need it, you're a single parent moms or whatever type of struggle you're going through, I'm not knocking you. I grew up on welfare,

section eight, free cheese, free lunch, everything you could, nobody was fucking bummier than me. I say it all the time, but what I'm trying to say you

is that that system is a trap. And it's really, no disrespect, but it's really not a flex when you go to a building and you be like, yo, the Washington's been here for 40 years and this, man, we got to get up out that shit.

That shit is meant to be temporary because they put you to a limit. If you aren't sectionated, you on that, you can't make enough money to do what you want to do. So basically what they do is they control you from competing for the jobs to own shit. They do control you. That's what my mom was.

My mom was like heavy on like, Don't, this is, this is for you to move forward to get you to be. That's it. You at C right now, but. She's smart. If you need Section 8, God bless. Once they see the income. It's everything you name.

Nobody's been on welfare more than me. When they see it income and it go up, up there. They don't want you to sell. Sorry, it's over. You know why your mom's, they have a man in the house? Because she couldn't. Because when they help you, they say they don't want you to have a man. Yeah.

All right. I'm telling you the truth. Wait. My mom. My balls ain't want no nigga in the crib. Not because of Section 8. This is not about her mom. Why you break my moms up, man?

When my mom's watch this, son? I apologize. Your mom's know what I'm talking about. They demasculate the home and the projects. They don't want the women to have a meal. man in the projects. They don't want a man and a woman in the projects. They don't want it.

Man, I'm trying to tell you the truth. It's a give it. Like, if you got a husband, they don't want you in the project. If you're doing better, they got a new... If you got a raise and salary, they don't want you in the project. So they want to keep you at a level. You shouldn't be in the

project. Think about somebody that. I'm just the one breaking... I'm breaking it. And how are you breaking through? How you got hooked up with Team 80? It was like 2016. It's this artist, he from Brownsville, his name, Lizzie, D-O-D.

He asked me to do a feature. I came through, met everybody just to do a feature, just working. And they caught a like it to me, and I caught it like it to them. I just was around watching them do music videos. I never done a music video before. Going out working records at the clubs,

get mansions to do content, stuff like that, and I felt in love with it. Like, I always was in love with music, but to be around people that I felt like was in love with the same thing, it made me want to lock in with them. You know, how you feel about coming from such a strong

lineage in New York City of female rappers who really started up, you know, I mean, we had rappers from all over, but, you know, that Kim, that Foxy, they both from Brooklyn. I'm sure you're, You get compared to them all.

I'm saying when I saw her shit was lit, Savannah and the little daughter was doing a garage. I said, oh, yeah, that shit. I love Savannah. Yeah, that was fine. Shut up to Savannah. Listen, let me tell you, I try to rig it once. I reached out for Kim Kardashian.

I asked him, this you want to say yesterday's price not today. I try to rig the Bible. I try to rig it and be like, wants some Kardashians or one of them Savannah's or one of them coming. Yeah. It's over. The next day is over. Your man, Calla, did the day.

They don't want us to win. Justin Bieber went on that jet. That's what happened, Sam. The next day, Justin Bieber went on that jet. He said, they don't want us on a plane. They don't want us to eat caviarish shit. That shit was over. You get one of them to do that.

You wake up like, holy shit, this shit out of here. But coming back from Foxy Kim, Did they inspire you? Do you know you have a lot of weight on your shoulders, tapping into that, saw you? At first, it felt like pressure, but I'm from Brooklyn. Like, it's in me, not on me. Walking to the bodega, the motherfucking fucking pressure.

Like, coming from where I come from, it's only pressure if you allow it to be. Like, if this is something that you love to do, it shouldn't be a hard thing to get done. But I am happy that, huh? Which one of the two inspired you more? Foxy or Ken? I would say both.

I would say both because I felt like Foxy has her tone is just so, it's so powerful. And Ken presence is powerful. And they always compare me to both. So I'd be like, I guess I'm like half and half. Like I'm, I'm a lemonade iced tea. I'm a half and a hat. No doubt. I'm tasting they both love.

A Lola Palmer. They both love Joe Cratt. I remember one time I must did an interview where I might have said something that might have got Foxy Brown mad at me. I don't even know what I say. I talk so much shit, you can forget about it. She had me in the DM and said, yo, crack. I knew what yo crack bad. I was like, I know I fucked up.

I will never do it again, sis. I was on my first record, her first L.O. Kooj's. And she came up in there with the papa this. I was like, yo, we never see somebody with that type of swag. And she was with Marr deep on there. Keith Murray was the hottest at the time. By the way, very underrated Keith Mary. Keith Mary, his flows, all that shit.

He had it at one time, right? She was with us, you know, L.L. who was like the king at that time, the dawn. and she came on that shit. And we knew the minute we saw her on that set doing all that shit, we was like, oh no,

she's about to... It's a Brooklyn day. Yeah, yeah. You know, Brooklyn's too big for me. Yeah, Brooklyn too big. It's like you could drive in Brooklyn for hours. Right? You ever notice the shit don't run out?

Like, you go with... Yo, Brooklyn don't run out. I'm not disrespecting Brooklyn. it is big as fuck. If you're not from Brooklyn, you are very lost. Now, I remember I used to go with my man to buy weed out there. They had one particular spot that was popping somewhere.

I'd be like, I could never find that shit. So you got East New Yorks all the way on the other side. Joe, it's nothing bigger than traveling from Brooklyn to the Bronx. I get that. The Bronx is much smaller than Brooklyn. Like, that alone is big in Brooklyn. Yo, that Brooklyn shit, man, I don't be knowing where I'm at. You know, all the time when the plane landing in the JFK, I look out the window at Brooklyn, I'd be like, yo, I really need to know.

Because in the Bronx, Harlem, all the, I know every single block. I haven't discovered every single block. This shit just keep going. And then it turned. But talk about that dills. The next way you're in Flatbush, the next way you're in Flatbush, the next way. you're in Flatbush, the next way you're this. Then you got Jews right next to the black dudes across the street.

This shit different from the whole world. Brooklyn really is Spike Lee be calling that shit like another planet, like another world. It is. It is. You on this side of the street, the next side. The next gangbangers is the Hasetic Jews. They out there. It is.

Deep. It truly is, Joe. It is, right? That shit big as fuck, man. And so coming from. from Brooklyn, what part of Brooklyn exactly you from? Bestar. Oh, you're from Bestai. That's deep.

That's deep. No, soon as you get in Brooklyn Oh, you mean like where Biggie's from? I used to go see Biggie there. That's right there. That's right there. That's right over the Junior's Cheesecake. Yeah, it's like 10, five minutes. Yeah. They used to go see Biggie out there, man. Best Side is good, but when you go,

when you go, you go, you go, you go, you go, give me another name in there. Brownsville No, Cody Island is the end of earth Like, East New York Yo, I was at Coney Island the other day And that bar, that diner We went to JFK too early

And I was like, yo, let's go to the diner We went to that Coney Island dino over there I know Coney Island No, Colie Island is Coley Island Like they got their own Like Coley Island Like when I used to go to Coley Island I didn't even know I was still in Brooklyn

growing up Like, I thought I was someone else. Yo, Cooney Island is far, right? Shout out five mics and everybody out there. I used to go with Stefan Marbury. If you don't know who that is, he was King of New York at one time. I didn't know basketball. I don't know what she was.

He was to Lincoln, right? Yeah. You know. He was one of the greatest. She knows. I know. I go with Stefan Marbury because, you know, we are OGs. I don't know, give a fuck.

What you think? She's from all. whole different generation. Brooklyn, man. Brooklyn, no. But I study. I study it. I mean.

Yeah, but I used to go see Steph out there and he had like 10 family members and one project building. The niggas is on every floor. Let's see Miss May. Let's see this. This is like they had the whole building, bro. Sebastian Telfare.

That's why I got mad when he tried to play against us. The black guy, we fed that boy four chicken wing, French fries many a time out there in Coney Island, man. That shit. I tell people all the time, that's my... If I go dead broke, I'm good with four chicken wheat, fresh fries, fat. That's hot sauce and some cats.

You know about mumbo sauce? Lady. Huh? You know about mumbo sauce? Mamba sauce? Yeah, you don't know about that? No, what's that? You gotta come to the sky and get mummo sauce on your french fries. Hatshup and mumbo sauce.

So what is it like? It sounds like mayonnaise and ketchup. No, no, no. I don't rock with mayonnaise. Me and mayonnaise, we don't, you don't get a little. Come cow. You ever been to come cat? Don't play with me, man.

That's the sound like... It's a Chinese restaurant. That's the famous... Oh, is the famous Chinese restaurant? You eat anything. I never heard that shit before. I don't know what... I was going to tell me.

I was dining all of that. You never... I think... Hold bought over to come. Don't have a play. That's how famous did it. Yes. I need to eat it, but I've been there.

It's a good Chinese spot. Like, it's a little slicing. Is it hungry? But it's like a chocolate. He's in the different part of Brooklyn. That's killer Benin' all over there on that side. Hey, he played trivia, Brooklyn Triumph. I'm lost.

He really is, though. Throw his name out there. You don't listen. I am lost. In Brooklyn, it is very big. It don't sound like to be lost. Pause. That shit deep.

That shit won't stop. Wow. If you go. The back. Burr. Listen. You go from the fucking. What you call that shit?

You go from Barclays. That's that main street. What that Lachry? You go from the Barclays? You go from the Barclays? That one street about an hour long. That's so funny. You go to Long Island on that shit, right?

You pass four white castles on that shit. Yo, four white castles on that shit. What a hell of a landmarks you know about. Oh, man. You go to the Barclays, you take that one street down? the backs did four white castles. Four white castles. That's how I know we're getting to the end.

By the time you hit the fourth white castle, I went to these projects. They had a, uh, they had a fucking, a basketball game, the championship in these projects in Brooklyn. Chris Gotti sent me in there. Thank God we had the yollets.

This shit was like, yo, it was like the Coliseum. You got to park in the middle of the project. You got to walk in the, They ain't no touching the surface, the soil you, and then leaving. Chris, you got to tell me what the projects was. And they were playing the chip. They had hookah.

They were selling hookah. What's the shit they called the fucking... Who's that Gersh? Nut Crackers. Gersh. They had the girls from Starlet selling hookas. Now, this shit out of control. They got a popcorn standing there, but it really felt like,

how are we getting out this bitch? it would just pop off. Yeah, you were in East New York. That was East New York? Yeah. So when you start from Fort Green going over there... It's deep. That's...

Yeah, that's a drop. That's what I'm trying to say. That's a drop. They jam me up. You know what I? It jam me up. I taught my wife, I never do the same shit twice. So when I go to my house every night,

I'll go to the right to the left, go a little further, come down. I never go over... No, I'm dead. How you love. I did that in the projects. I come out through the basement one day to go to school. I come out through the front.

I go out through the rent building. I switch my shit up every day. You ain't timing me like that. It don't go like that, right? So in there, a niggins gonna have to get the shooting because there ain't no normal way to get out of the Gersh projects.

I'm telling you, are you jammed up? The parking lot is in the middle of the projects. If they close that shit up, good luck. You got to do what you got to do. Dude to get the fuck out from Roger. That's a fact of Mundo. Oh, man.

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Malcolm X and Martin Luther King, Jr. had both been assassinated, and Black America was out of breaking point. Writing and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale. In Atlanta, Georgia, at Martin's Almermata, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in black history,

Martin Luther King, Sr., and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. To be in what we really thought, was a revolution. I mean, people would die. In 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should, and it will blow your mind. Listen to the A-building on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Man, I saw you in Paris.

Remember we did Paris together? The Jordan. The Jordan joint. I've seen you out there in Paris. I was proud of you. Thank you. And you know what's crazy, we don't get enough time to tell you and everybody else, whether you're young, you're the OG.

You know, in this game, this competitive game, but we're happy for everybody. Yes. And everybody's just, we got like an alma mater, rest of the piece. Fat man's school. Well, Sath, like we took a beating. You know, I hung out with him. No kiss.

What's the matter, man? Belted around this. Because there's a family tree. His brother's sitting in my face. You think I can't, that's all I can think about. It's my brother fat man scoop. I hung out with him. We ate breakfast, right?

We had a show in Europe. We ate breakfast together. That guy was so happy. He had a gun collection. right? He kept bragging to me. Yo, the AR-12 comes with us. I'm like, you... What?

Because, yo, no, legal. Legal. But he was such a positive dude my whole life. But he was talking to me about guns. Last time I was like, what? He's like, yo, I can't get back. I can't wait to get back.

I'm gonna go buy this new shit with a scope on a this. I'm like, yo, fat man, school. Like, you buying guns at a mile a minute, but he doesn't. loved it, right? You know, what a beautiful soul, bro.

Clap you, Nick. Huh? He was going to clap, son. Mm-hmm. Well, you know, that's what I say in the show. Jada wants to kill me. I say, yo, listen, if you have a son, if you have a son that love guns,

and you live in New York where it's two years no matter what, I don't give a fuck, what kind of money you got. Little Wayne sat two years for the gun. I don't care how much money you got here, Johnny Cockwin, nobody can get you out. If your son love guns, take them to Atlanta, take them to Connecticut, take them to Pennsylvania. Take them somewhere. They're fucking let them buy the guns.

They're going to kill them. You're making it. You say the solution to if your son is gundolera, take them somewhere where's the Wild Wild West. You agree with that? No. What I'm saying is kids that love guns, they get caught with three guns before they blink in New York City. And they're doing real time. I mean, this might sound crazy, right?

I had a fetish for them, but I don't know, something clicked in me that it wasn't cool. It's like, your kids gonna get it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm seeing eye with them. So I'm like,

No, I'm just talking about jail. When you raise your, no, I'm saying, though, when you raise your kids right after a while, they'll get it. They'll get it. It'll click. It'd be so random, too.

You're just, a lot of things click for me, like growing up in Brooklyn. I was around the wrong crowd, but sometimes I go home and I'd be like, yo, that shit was so whack. Like, why did I, that was, that was pointless. It was corny. Because I knew at home my mom's made it safe.

It was, I felt safe in. So it was like, why I'm going outside doing all this extra shit when I got a hardworking mom that makes sure the home for like home. So it could. Can't take that for Gwen. Hmm. In a clip.

Remember where that you? Send your son. Send your kids. To the army. To the gun state. and let them get all the guns they won is his solution. Okay, listen to America. I don't know.

Listen to America. Here my logic. My logic is I've got a lot of friends that their kids like guns. You in America in certain states have the right to bear arms. Before your kid is a three-time felon by the time of 19 because he loves guns, man, you went to jail for the ham. Before you go do that, move to a state where it's legal and let them do it the right way. Otherwise, I know what I'm talking about, guys.

I said, play if you want, and you'll be going to see your son of state in no time. That should fix me. It ain't not a serious time, New Zealand. I don't know. I think you should just pray. Just pray. Just pray. Prayer helps.

Pray helps. You're into prayer. and God Yeah, I pray Big time. I pray last night. I always pray, though. I pray everywhere.

Let me tell you. Surprise I ain't praying here yet. I can sell my prayers on a plane because you know I'm scared to fly. I see myself while I'm praying in a white suit, talking the millions of, God, please.

The dog next to me doesn't want to die right now, God. Please give these pilots the knowledge. Oh, my God. Oh, yo. If they are, no, I'm certified pussy. If they take my prayers in my mind on the plane,

are they like, oh, this guy's pussy. He can never act tough in his life. This guy, like, I pray too hard. The record with Bryson Tiller. Okay, Seth. Did that do what you wanted it to do? Or, no, that record was a super smash. Did the record label throw the proper bag behind that?

It went flat. That's my shit. Oh, man, that's great. I mean, with gold, don't play with it with platinum. But I got a, yeah, I got a plat. After this it might go platinum. It's going to go platinum. It's going to go platinum, Sam.

See, I was. That was we bringing it back. Not only was the record of smash, but I don't know if you know, we discovered Bryson Tiller. And I happen to know the man just don't work with anybody. No, he don't.

He don't care. He don't care about your bag. He don't. care who you are. That's the fact. And when that man jumped on a track with you, to me, being a hip-hop historian,

it was just super validation because he don't fuck with nobody, no matter who you don't even post a picture on IG. So that shit is so fired. The record is fired. Young Jolla. And then he rocked with you. You know, that get the other,

you know, you might catch a toddler the creator next time. Somebody who don't really rock. with people was like, oh, she's somebody we need to take serious. Work your heart. So I'm glad you, because I got some records I did that I thought, you know, the reason why I truly went independent was I dropped the record

with young Gizi. Yeah, what was it? Ha-ha! So, that's son, you killing him. To me, that was a lean back. Like, I thought that... I did something crazy to that beat. You rocked to that?

Ha-ha. Let me tell you something. We shot the video. Harlem, we did the movie, cheesy. I was like, this shit out of here. Like the phone calls I was getting. What fake phone calls from the industry? You back. Yo,

it's a lean back. I was hype. And the record label, I know for a fact. They didn't push that shit. And that's when I said, you know what? You guys ain't doing this to me no more. I'm going independent, putting my own bag up. I'm not coming over here

begging somebody to push my shit or whatever the case may be. that song changed my life because that's one song to this day if I'm sitting in the club with you and they play it it bothers me when I hear it I'm like

this shit was supposed to be out of here this shit was a missile this shit you see the Savannah when that song came out the next day LeBron was doing the little dance to the shit too I was like oh no this

we got one and they didn't push it and they was acting like nah got you you do it you know that's that forced me to go independent. But you're correct.

No matter what you do, if you put out a hit, they want the second lean back. I put out lean back. I think the next song I put out was making rain. The shit went four flat. And they're just still like,

this saint leaned back. Yo, they was dead ass. Oh, no, you got to do it again. Then again, then again, then again, then again, then again, then again. And that's why when I look at certain artists that put it out the park consistently, that's when I'd be like, man,

because you know, one hit is a miracle. One hit is a miracle. I always say, they talk about one hit wonders. I always say, yo, motherfucker lived this dream. One hit with my man, gold over my plaques. Gold in the bomb watch. Turned that, James. Go on than our thoughts.

Man, I seen him on the red carpet. I see them take pictures with everybody here. ever loved. I see them live a life. So when somebody hit it out the part one time, it's a dream cut true, but to consistently, you know, you hit it, you know, in our era is a Nelly, it's a 50 cent, there's Jaru, these guys kept coming and coming and coming and coming with hits and hits and hits and hits. And you have to respect them when you're in the business and making hits. Because when do you know you got a hit? Do you know when you got a hit? Well, now I do. You can feel it.

People treat you different. No, but I mean in the studio, you create a song. That I don't know. Music for me is a lifestyle. I'm making music because it's making me feel good. I do music because it speaks for me. Like, I do music because it's therapeutic. I didn't start doing music for a bag,

but I caught a bag, so I'm going to continue to do it for that as well. But, nah, I don't be in the studio like, oh, I got to make a hit. I be in a studio like, oh, I got to get this shit off. Because if I don't, I'm really, don't be going to. crazy. I like that. You like that as far as right. You knew you,

what's on you knew, Jada, you out of here? Here's that. For the shit. Thank you, Lola. Thank you.

God bless if the Savior. This guy here, he's a snout. He'd be killing me every show. When I go home, I watch the replay, I'm like,

yo, this thing be sniping me. I'm on a challenge. I don't even know he's killing me like that. When? What song you had that you knew this is a hit? Before it came out, maybe in the studio you recorded.

Why? Mm. Why, it was so incredible, brother. That was a different type of hit. Man, but it was perfect. It was dead. That was God talking. Like, you know what I'm saying?

It was so different. It was necessary to this day as necessary. Anthony Hamilton, what made you think of him for the hook? shout out to my man rest in peace ice pick we just thought we you know once we got it

once we got this song shout out the havoc too for doing the beat but once we got it they know that we already knew we knew we wanted to get somebody

we were big fans we all big fans and Anthony Hamilton so it was just the beat was perfect for him and once we told him the concept

and he heard the verses I had the verses on before the host of So once he heard it, he had the hook and did that shit fast. He made the hook. Yeah. So he was like, wow.

Oh, wow. Key Swat came up here. Key Swet came up here and said, what's that shit called? Southern, there's a name for that kind of music, Southern, a whole genre I never heard. Yeah, he can't, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, made that. We might have invented it. He invented that. Right? Southern something.

It's Southern Soul. He said, it ain't R&B, it ain't this, it got his own name. Huh? Listen, when I, you know, I'm in the house. My phone ring. It's like four in the morning. I got the house phone. I'm named in the bag. Yo, Joe, come to the Air Factory.

I'm like, who's this? How do you got my house? He was like, is Erf Gotti? Come in the ear factors. Four in the morning. I said, got something for you. I only met him one time before that. We both booked the same studio

and we talk shit to like seven in the morning. No work got done. We were just telling stories and I realized I see, yo, this thing is just like me. Like, he got the stories. Like that. Erf Gotti, he got the stories. So we're going back-to-back stories.

He must have. like three, pun dies, right? Rest and peace. Jaru comes to the funeral. I never even met Jaru before that. He came to the funeral.

I was like, it's a good man. But anyway, like a month after Pund dies, he calls me out of nowhere and you want to talk about pressure. They were like, you know, Pum was so much better than me.

They was like, oh, this nigga through. Like, Pund is the king. Joe is a bum now. Joe, it's over for him. He's like, I mean, literally, in my face, They were saying this shit, right? So when I went there, they just pressed play.

And the Hit Factory, like, I ain't going to lie to you. I don't give a fuck, what you think. I never spent money like that on the studio. Like, my studios was always underground, small studio. I never spent the $5,000 a night hit factory. Like, I wouldn't do that. That's one thing I wouldn't spend on. They had different speakers.

That shit came on through no, no, no, ninnu, ninn. And it was like, bust love. I knew immediately. I said, oh shit, this shit out of here. Like, this is shit. It's gone. And so it was crazy after Irv died, I had asked my wife

because she was dead with me. And I asked her. I said, yo, what? I never asked her. Because, you know, I'm always caring about what I think I said. What did you think that night when we drove home? She said, I knew our life had changed forever.

When she heard once love one time, she was like, she said, I always loved Irv God because of that. She was like, I knew it. Driving back to the Bronx, she was like, oh, no, this shit. This shit over.

It was about to be a new day. But, you know, when you know you got that hit. See, back then it was so different. Like, the substance was so raw. Now it's like, there's no such thing as you know what's the hit. It'd be like the random stuff being a hit now.

So it's hard. It's like we're in a way of space with music. Yeah, you are. But if you keep it consistent, nothing. Yeah. Nothing changes. just, you know, I love what you said. Without you knowing, you answered that question so beautiful where you was like,

yo, it ain't about a hit. I got to get this off. That's really, that's Aretha Franklin. That's all the greats that we could call. They just, Anthony Hamilton, he just sung from the soul, this and that, and then people related to it. Right, right. You know what I mean?

So that's really where music is that. You feel like you're talking your shit. And people could relate. That's powerful right there. That never changes. Yeah, hits come from great energy. It's a room full of energy. Is that a hit is guaranteed going to be made for sure?

You know what's so funny. I went to a show one time and it was just crowded. Who was it? I think Gumbo threw some shit in Jersey. And here I'm going up the stairs and there's a bunch of big guys and there's a girl flying in the air past me going down the stairs. That's how I knew how little you were. was it was so crowded there.

Y'all was carrying her out the motherfucker. I'm like, yo, this shit great. I'm looking up to the old shit, that little Lola Brooks. It'd be so much people. I'd be needing help. They carry you out of that shit. That's when it comes in handy. They can just lift you up and slide you

over the... Yeah. Like, take me going. What's your process like in the studio? What you need? What's essential? I so boom. I need so. from H2O. I need some water.

Facts. I need honey and tea. Fax. I ain't gonna front need the tequila. You know what I'm saying? You know, tequila? I need... Hucca.

You know what I'm saying? I need hooker. Okay. A good engineer. I don't got to keep tapping him on his shoulder. Not doing that. Get it right. And good, good vibes.

Of course, some grubs, you know. Brobs. You know what's crazy? We was just talking off the camera. Like you said, it'd be some good shit. Say it. He was selling me that Tupac one time. There's a video where he telling the engineer,

yo, my job is to record. I leave. You mix that shit. I don't know what to do with that. That's you. You get that shit. He didn't even stay there for the mix. He lay his versions and stuff.

Did he out? Make sure it's good. That was ill. Dude, that was, I got to hear it. I got to hear this shit. Man, that boy Scott Stewart sent me back, lean back. Like, I got a demo.

I'm Demo-Idis. I know a hit. I'm a little bit... And I notice, you're not the first artist. More artists come here saying they didn't know what was a hit. I always do what was a hit. So when I left Lean Back, I knew that shit was number one. He sent back the mix and had like a cowbell on that shit going to ping.

I was like, yo, my man! Who the fuck told you to throw a bell on that bitch? Take that shit crack. We could just take it out. You get into it saying, I'm like, fuck out of here. I'm like, I'm definitely. one of those, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. We hear it, the shit, you know, your man, Kendrick Lamar,

they said that what he did, they're not like Gus. They ain't even mixed that shit. He said, he was like, yo, get that shit out now, 30 minutes later. He was like, yo, I want that shit out. Like, they didn't even professionally mix. They ain't not like us. It was just like, yo, do a random little two track. It's out.

You know, and so, you know, me, I'm into mixes. I fucked up one time, and I had Jay-Z on this record we had on Family Tiles projects. Jay-Z spit the burst. And we looking for the mixture of the year, all this bullshit, Coul and Dre. Jesus, Joshua got to get back from parties. This, this, that they was playing.

And the man, they called back about three, four days later. It was like, y'all, you can't drop that verse now. Because he was, like, getting at, like, certain people. at the time, they was like, y'all can't put that out. I was like, nigger, I fucking told you to get that shit the front mask to flex

in 20 minutes. Now we're sitting on a JZ verse we can never use in our life. You know, sometimes you got to go. You got to go. You got a running gun. That's how I recorded my last project I did, I bet. Like, I have a scratch

off and I just go. So whatever I say, I'm looking at the engineer, like, keep that shit. Because you might not get that moment back. We just fucking heard that about Tupac. You used to say the same shit. You'd be like, yo, I ain't racing none. He'd go over there and rock.

Yeah, you'd be touching those types of shit. Put in the intro. That's crazy. Not us. Not even me. I probably would be like that, but they force me. These guys want perfection. These guys, he's cool and Dre.

I'm probably the only old school rapper that they may do it 100 times still the verse is picture perfect. Like they abused me in that studio. Nah, not like that, Joe. This to this day,

they still like coach me like, yo, Joe, like, you know, because me, you know, if I had a dream come true, I would go to Nebraska some shit and make my own album

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I'm Hans Charles. I'm in Alec Lamoma. It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. had both been assassinated. And Black America was out of breaking point. Writing and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale. In Atlanta, Georgia at Martin's,

Al-Mermata, Morehouse College. The students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in black history, Martin Luther King, Sr., and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. To be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people would die. 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone.

The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest. test. It echoes in today's world far more than it should, and it will blow your mind. Listen to the A-building on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple

podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Bowen-Yang. And I'm Matt Rogers. During this season of the Two Guys' Five Rings podcast, in the lead-up to the Milan-Cortina-2026 winner Olympic Games, we've been joined by some of our friends. Hi, Bowen,

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She's just like, y'all, I cleared this. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, and this, that. What made you use that sample and the title, Pain? When you think of Mary Jay, pain is the first word that comes to my mom. Like, I didn't see my mom get through her day listening to Mary Jay. I'm saying? I didn't see my mom stressed out. She put on Mary Jane.

She could clean a whole house. That's what she was in my household. What? I knew Mary Jay was on. I said, oh, I got to get up and clean my room. She's going to be rattling on me. So pain. With that record, I feel like she liked no more pain. And I'm like, this is the new generation, no more pain.

I learned from you, too. Like, my mom's made sure of that it's no more pain. We're standing on that. As black women, I'm standing on that. I'm not going through it. Like, I see my mom go through it. I'm straight. So I was excited that she cleared it.

Because it meant something to me. Who was rocking because there's a generational gap. And I could tell you, my mother, my aunts, they was this one song. I don't know if you know, you're way too young, but they were saying, I will survive. Oh, and I was a kid. I didn't know what they was really singing. And they would sing this shit. Wait, how it goes?

I will survive. Oh, no, no, no. Walk out the door. Who's that? Gloria Gaynor. They turn around now because you're not welcome. I be in front of the building we live in the fifth floor

and the projects. They be singing that shit and you hear it outside like, you know, that's that clean in the house. And Mary was that for you, right? Who are some artists that were very

inspirational to you in your age group? Who was rocking when you was like, yo, I think I want to be a rap? Like, who was like on fire? Little Wayne McNeill 50 Cent. It was a, time where I would have Little Wayne, I would be on

lawn wire and it would be nothing but Little Wayne on my iPad. My iPod. I just met a little young brother from New Orleans. What is name? Leasy or something? A rapper he was up here. Lurizi. The man

I was selling him that Lil Wayne taught me how to work fast. So I come from a way back generation. Where rappers would do an album. I don't give a fuck if it was number one. And they would wait four years to drop. That was it. They would wait, sit home for two years.

And they were, all right, it's four years. Let's drop the next one. We didn't have that work effort. But Little Wayne, when he moved to Miami after Katrina and I used to go visit him in the studio, every night he was cutting records. He was cutting records. So he taught me, like, yo, Joe, if you want to be relevant in this generation, you got to keep working and working and working.

So he taught me about being in the studio. every night. So Little Wayne, Big Mill, 50 cents. That's who was ringing off at that. That big mail that, that shit ain't never going to stop. That's like, that should be in the museum. What's that shit when they take your shit and they put it in like, no, they got some shit where they put it in Washington, D.C.

What is that? Library of Congress? James. You got to ask the one white guy on set. Yo, James, what is that? Like, is that the Library of Congress? that rhyme like this nothing like this

n'n like this niggins. It was the hunger. For me with meek it was the hunger. He made me feel like you shouldn't be shy to speak about your truth.

Whatever you're going through, your reality, you can put it in your music no matter if it's embarrassing or not. Like if you cried today, tell him you cry today. Wayne, I learned punch lines.

I listen to canon back to back figuring out what he was what he meant by his lyrics. And 50, just so New York. Yeah. Wayne is different, right?

So Wayne, his flow pack, because he's from the South, and the Southern rappers used different flows. But then he started rapping over New York beats, but he was hitting them flows. He was still in pocket. He was dumbing out. Like, I was just like, oh, shit.

We didn't know people could do that. I remember one record. I don't know the name. Every time I bring it up, everybody act like they don't know what I'm talking about. But it was, he rapped to a, Jay Z record. And let me tell you something.

Jay Z body that shit to begin with. And that man went up in there so much you got. And that man, Lil Wayne was doing all this. He was doing the Jemaraquai on that shit.

Remember Jemarquai video? He was going in the treadmill backwards. Like this shit, Little Wayne was doing that shit. It was like AI. We had never heard nobody flow on such.

And J.Z. bodied that. And then he went up in there. It was like, and that's when I knew. I said, oh, we got, we got a new leader of the new school. This guy, he on another level, little way. One of the best guys you're loving me, you know, on earth. So where you want to go from here, Lola, you have some success.

You got platinum gold plaques. What do you want to do? At the end of the day, when you want to look at your career, 10 years from now, 15 years from now, what's your vision of? Being on the movie screens, having my own show. That's what I want. Shout out Tiana Taylor. She hit me four times today.

Word. Shut up. Yeah, yeah. You know, T. She got a sneaker coming out so she wanted to, you know, you'll cry. You know what I'm saying? You know, I'm saying. We know, we're so proud.

Listen, Tiana, we are so fucking proud of you, man. And you want to know what's crazy. She makes New York City look so good. I'm into talk to shit about people or whatever the case may be, but I'm falling for the... Teana won the award. Don't she look different now to you, like from one day to the other? So now I'm looking out of the outfits, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, she's queen.

She's a big girl. She, I don't know, the glow up, she always been bad. She always been fly, but since she won the award... She got a glow, right? She's looking like fucking Angela Bassett. She was ready. Right? She's looking like some other shit right now.

She ain't just Deanna Taylor who sit like that on the couch of us and bug out. I don't know. I'm falling for it. I don't know. I'm feeling like, wow. She was ready for her moment. You could tell that she patiently waited for her moment. And when it came, she was ready.

A lot of people not ready for their moment. No. No. A lot of people wait. And that's the most important thing about this whole thing. You got to be ready for when it come because you don't know when it's going to come. That's a super fact. You know, good man, you could quote as a guy named Fat Joe.

His quote is, you got to stay in the game. You never know. I'm telling, yo, listen, you got to stay in the game. You never know. And so what I mean by that is you got a guy, I don't know if it's true or is a lie, but what I hear from rumors the guy, what's the name, Klamian there, Camillion He had that big hit

But he went off and did some like Some shit in Silicon Valley You don't know You know you think Dr. Dre This is some shit I always say There's one of them stories You say Joe you repeat this shit But Dr. Dre discovered it

NWA That's Ice Cube EasyE, all of them He's done his own albums Chronic which is we consider One of the greatest if not the greatest album ever. He discovered Snoop Dog.

Then when it discovered Eminem, the discovered 50 cents, and did you think that the most money he ever made come from headphones? You never fucking know. I never forget when those headphones came out, I'm in first class,

and every white guy, white girl on that plane had them shits on. And I'm just like, that's what you know. No black people had a pit. We had it, but, you know, we're always going to support Dr. Dre. That's not what I'm saying.

What I'm saying is when somebody, listen. My first pill wasn't mine. You stole them shit. Come on, Lola. Tell me about it. Wait, hold on, because he's going to think I ain't trying to put that bag in his pocket. Oh, yeah, yeah. Lola, you stole them shit, huh?

I'll just say, yeah, I had him to him, and it wasn't mine. It wasn't yours? Yeah, and I rent them, damn. I was so grateful for this. That was the best headphones I ever heard at the time. It had the red wire. Red wire, too. It wasn't wireless.

You know what broke my heart is before your time, Lola. They had this thing called the eye part. I have maybe y'all about the eye pot. What? I just told you. I was listening to a little weight on my eye pot. I just said that, yo. I didn't know that.

I was listening to Cannon. Yo, my shit just turned on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I got one. Let me ask you. Let me ask you a question.

Did everybody get like a fucking, like a, you know what they say it's a virus? When my iPod turned off, my iPod turned off. Now I had like 5,000, 10,000 fucking songs on that shit. My shit just did we get a bug? No. My iPod don't work. Does somebody has a working iPod in 2026? Because my shit just turned off.

I wonder if my, because I still got mine. I don't want to do it. Yo, that shit broke my heart when the fucking I part turned off. I'm really in the gym going. I got the same shit. Pop that. Pop that shit, pop that shit, pop that shit, pop that shit, pop that gym playlist to keep going. That shit said, no more iPod.

You know, they do that shit with the phones. They come out with the new phone. I, 17, your shit, all of a sudden start glitching, not working you in here. No, maybe I'm losing certain. You got to go buy the phone. You need a new phone. The updated one. The new phone.

Lexxel freshman 2003. Glorilla Friday Sent you see. How you feel about that class? I mean, I was on there. I feel great about it. I ain't think I would ever be on a couple of

XXL. Well, I dreamed of it, but I'm like, eh, I ain't ever going to get that. Like, if I get a hit, if I pop, I ain't getting that. I would say that to myself. But, you know, coming from a place of doubts, did it do that to you? So when I did get it, I'm like, nah, don't ever, don't ever self-doubt.

Facts. I was proud. You ever feel like some people might have took off before you, and he was like, yo, I was right next to him. Like I had this artist, shout out Angelica Villa. She got a project coming out. And I remember she was doing, like, them showcases. And Doja Cat was nobody knew her.

She was performing with her, and Angelica had more of the power. She had fat Joe there with her. I'm pushing her, blowing the bag, this, this, that. And that doja cat went to the fucking moon. And I remember that showcase, but nobody knew both of them. You know, at least Angelica walked in with the Joe crack. We coming through, furred out. She's looking good.

And, man, that doja cat. So you ever seen that and said, damn, I got to get there, Or, you know. If I would have seen that, I don't think I would have got my hit. I wouldn't, I wouldn't have been blessed with my hit. It's like,

when you watch somebody else's blessings or somebody else pockets, then you ain't focused on yours. Talk slow, slow. Yeah, I get, I got a little man. I tell everybody, I don't give a fuck what they say. You know they're going to try

spice my shit up. But, you know, I got a little man. I came in the game. I'm selling drugs. I got beemas and benzes. Cuban chains, iced out, the other rappers looking at me like they saw

an alien and shit. That's how I came in the game. They could fucking lie if they want. And all the mrs became billionaires before Joe crack and I'm sitting here still struggling for the next paycheck. And I'm like, shit. These motherfuckers really

got to the billy before me. Like, I was like, you know, so, you know, now they inspire me. Now I'm like, I've got to keep going. I know we could do that. Because I've seen these guys before they did So I've always looked at stuff like inspiration. Right.

You know, that's how I took it. Let's listen to pain one good time. Feel the pain. Feel the pain. I went to that mall and got some sleepers, Brooklyn. Yeah, love a lesson learned. Better know your friends or else you will get burned. Gotta count on me because I can guarantee that I'll be fine.

You cry for everything You don't crash for love No more You cry for every Yeah Oh no Yeah I'm gonna

I was that bitch before him He chimed in Bing bong I'm like guess who bitch I'm like you they keep it P I'm like F you bitch Oh you thought that was your man's huh Guess who bitch I don't want him or his money

These hos be crashing for dummies They have the broker they ugly these men be dust-nie and musty What's you done with that bitch that I'm a motion and a bitch that I'm a motion and That's how money than you That's out, yeah, how hustling you Trying to know this other bitch But don't got nothing to lose So why ain't giving niggas nothing

He got something A bitch money to be fucking with you I got plenty of options There's a hundred of you That's that shit That baseline, huh? Oh! Trees in a shot glass

I'm gonna make you face your fears going outside Do you're big one on me To my doubt dad You own two shames to your interests Instead of trying to keep it pee P you should have knew your limits Like I wouldn't have you crying

In a New York That big stuff. Thank you. That shit going somewhere else with it, man. Thank you. What's the name of the project, the new joint? I bet. I bet.

He's like, I bet. Say less. No doubt. Fire up. It's that New York. Yo, this ain't that. That ain't this. It's cracking kiss.

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