Joe and Jada - Fat Joe & Jadakiss on BET canceling Hip Hop & Soul Train Awards, will.i.am's Black Thought vs. Jay-Z, Jelly Roll SummerSlam story

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

On today's episode, Fat Joe and Jadakiss react to the news that BET will be indefinitely suspending the Hip Hop and Soul Train Awards. Joe and Jada mourn the loss of two staples in rap culture, discus...s Joe and Kevin Hart's turns hosting the awards, and question the reasoning behind the surprise cancellations. After, Joe and Jada give props to Raekwon of Wu-Tang Clan, Freddie Gibbs, and Mobb Deep's Havoc on their new records, celebrate the anniversary of The Lox vs. Dipset Verzuz battle, debate will.i.am of the Black Eyed Peas saying that The Roots' Black Thought is "a trillion times better" than Jay-Z, give props to New Jersey hip hop legends like Lauryn Hill, Redman, Naughty By Nature, and more, react to WILD WNBA fans throwing "jointskis" at the Indiana Fever's Sophie Cunningham, and Joe tells a hilarious story from SummerSlam about his run-in with Jelly Roll. 2:30 - BET cancels Hip Hop & Soul Train Awards 12:15 - 4-year anniversary of The Lox vs. Dipset Verzuz 14:30 - Living through 1980s crack epidemic 21:00 - Raekwon & Freddie Gibbs records 29:30 - The 3 birthplaces of hip hop 32:30 - will.i.am says Black Thought "a trillion times better" than Jay-Z 40:00 - RIP Howie Tee 43:00 - Lauryn Hill, Redman & New Jersey hip hop 50:00 - Gilbert Arenas & the Morris twins' legal issues 58:45 - Fat Joe's Jelly Roll SummerSlam story 1:06:30 - WNBA fans are WILD 1:11:30 - "Yesterday's price is not today's price!" 1:14:15 - Answering fan questions [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.]See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:12 I tried Joe. It's right next to me. He said they definitely not going to believe you. Yo, yeah, man, you know what it is, Joe and Jaylor, man. Hip-hop shit for the culture. I was scrolling yesterday. I seen BETys cancelling the BT Hip Hop Awards and the Soul Train Awards. Now, we all know our people.
Starting point is 00:02:49 The BT, the hip-hop awards, so they started switching. I think they let you host it. Three years, three years. Kevin Hart due to the last one, so they put a little bit of fluidity back into it, but it was a time when it got like the ratchet awards and nobody was really going and this and that. Then I guess with the passing of Don Canelius, whoever was in charge of the Soul Train, I guess, I don't know, slipped. It didn't have the same fluidity as it had other years, you know, prior to before he passed.
Starting point is 00:03:25 So now they're just canceling it That's like a loss for the culture What'd you say? You want me to say you just explain what it would do you want you to say I just gave you the thing I got a different approach man And my approach is factual BT
Starting point is 00:03:44 This is a form of gentrification What's going on right now So I don't know if y'all really want to ask me About this shit right here right So BETT came up as a community station for black people, right? The urban culture. And our man, what is Bob Johnson, took the check. He sold it first black billionaire, whatever the case may be. He sold it. He sold it to Viacom and Paramount, MTV and them, VH1 in them. Little by little over the years, quietly, they've been
Starting point is 00:04:23 firing a lot of people behind the scenes in BET and everybody who has something and say they've been firing them and this and this and that. And I know, because I've been working on the BET Hip-Hop Awards for three years,
Starting point is 00:04:37 shit was like the budget, not for me, but the budget just kept getting... Just getting chopped and chopped and chopped. And last year, I debuted my single with Cali in the VMAs and Katie Perry is still flying through the air
Starting point is 00:04:51 in the VMAs. They still blowing out of the cannons, they still flying in the air, they still got all the tricks, they still got the budgets, they got the shit, you know. And so I think in the entertainment world,
Starting point is 00:05:10 I don't think I know this was like a form of gentrification. They kept underfunding them, underfunding them, underfunding them. And you ain't got no money to be creative. That's why you was watching the Ratchet Awards, and no life. They ain't had no bread.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Last year, we shot the last joint, and I am. They have bread for what they want to have bread for. I'm so honored for the opportunity, Connie Orlando and the whole crew to let me host. That was one of the biggest things I ever wanted it doing in my life. You know, I look up, if I never told you, I look up to a Steve Harvey. So Steve Harvey's my guy at media that I want to be like.
Starting point is 00:05:47 And so, you know, that made me feel like I was Steve Harvey your hip-hop and trying to keep it consistent. But I saw what they did to them. They just stopped the budgets. They started firing. I almost said arrested. They started firing a bunch of people who brought a lot to the table. And now we're left with, guess what, this ain't working.
Starting point is 00:06:09 But nothing without no money, no promotions, no staff, no, nothing works. It just don't work. You might as well have called it the Independent Awards. And so no soul trained. No BET Awards but guess what we got the VMAs
Starting point is 00:06:26 those ain't for us well you got you know I'm just I'm being honest with you I love the VMAs too I love the VMAs too but the point is that's your answer
Starting point is 00:06:38 in the nutshell that's what happened so they left us with one award sure that ain't really ours anyway yeah but they got the I think the main BET
Starting point is 00:06:50 awards that regular awards are still there. Yeah. But that's still a little topsy 30. Oh, no, that's a little, that's the second away. The writing's on the war. You see everything else falling down as a domino.
Starting point is 00:07:02 That's the next one. One little fumble by Kevin Hart. One little joke, too many. That shit over too. And so that's what it is. You know, sometimes, you know, and I got a lot of friends at VMAs and MTV, and I love you guys.
Starting point is 00:07:19 But, you know, sometimes the goal is to buy your project to suppress you. You know what I'm saying? So the goal is, yo, some big company might come and be like, yo, we want to buy Rewind a tent. Throw us the billy. And then, like, shut it down. Like, yo, this shit got to go. We got to keep this thing moving.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Who knows? That's just how I'll take on Joe and Jada. Yeah. Save hip hop. Save hip hop. Save the award. Let's go. Save your money.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Yeah, yeah, what up, y'all? It's your boy Joe Crack. It's your boy Jada. You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. Another episode of greatness, ladies and gentlemen. Brought to you by the culture, preferably the streets. And we're the realists in the game.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Yo, check this shit. I can't say that. Yo, what you've been out to, Jada? Crazy weekend. Once again, shout out the cash money. Shout out to Jovey. Jovey shouted us out. Jovey been ripping the pain off the fucking buildings.
Starting point is 00:08:33 So you know, they got locks. We're on the Cash Money tour. Yeah, we did Chicago, and then we did the Detroit show. Shout out to Detroit. They were super fucking live. The crowd was crazy. After that, I had something in Carabana and Tarragana. Drove up there
Starting point is 00:08:51 My driver In the sprint of my man Nick Over there He forget the knife He forgets a knife In the sprinting Not on that shit Now he's
Starting point is 00:09:04 He's thinking he in the Bronx Where he goes Yo my fault man I just forgot this They started saying weapons It's turned into weapons All of that They fucking sack us
Starting point is 00:09:16 They Everything out of the bags All of that Come sit down. Now it's like empty your pockets. I got over $10,000 on me. You didn't declare it. Now they take my bread track.
Starting point is 00:09:31 We sitting there. It left me with 37 cents. I had one of my men's that super squeaky clean with me. Shout out to my niggas sticks. He started calling lawyers and calling the promoters and all that. All I know they came out, gave me all the bread back, The passports, it was God. It was like Caled in the jacuzzi.
Starting point is 00:09:53 God is the greatest. God is the greatest. God is the greatest. He brought me everything back and said, you can go. It was like, huh? One of the toughest places to get into anywhere on the earth is Canada. Canada, facts. I tell anybody's mother, Canada, they don't play on there. You know how many times we was on tour and we went in the tour bus
Starting point is 00:10:14 and guys had to stay in like... Over Buffalo, yeah, you got to get a gab, You can't go in there. Canada is serious. I went, I had a show in California, Ventura, California. Beautiful crowd. It was amazing out there. And then I flew back to come out with my African brother, Davido.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Fire. Over there, and he had that shit on tilt in Parkinson's. Right? So he was like, yo, Joe, could you come out? So I rushed back to do that with him. caught a nice body in there you know the Barclays they always let you catch a body in there
Starting point is 00:10:54 right? Especially when there's one of them kind of artists and they need you to come for some light or dirbs for them and I should turn to the main arch you rip the screws or his like they was like I needed this shit to be crazy so the crowd shout out the crowd you know every now and then you need
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Starting point is 00:11:37 You know what I'm saying? Waiting for my deal, man. You know they went crazy. Everybody a deal. Yo, Jada. You ain't offending me a dick. Yo, Jada, you already in the deal, man.
Starting point is 00:11:45 That's the problem. We can't give you everything. You got everything. I got to rewind it. I might have to rewind. Yo, rewind it. CVS, stop a shot. Whatever it's available.
Starting point is 00:11:56 What a beautiful thing, man. I keep telling these guys, I go to every show at the end of the show. I'd be like, yo, if you got gray hair, your wife, she wants to keep you off the market, YB 54,
Starting point is 00:12:10 when you could be 43, YB 42, when you could be 31. I mean, they love that shit. That talk, he's legend. Yeah, let me, tell you something. I think it's four years since the
Starting point is 00:12:21 the locks dipset three. Three or four? Five? Five, not. Hell no. No, no, no, it's four, three. If it's five I need my AARP card. It's four or three. I'm getting up there. I don't know who hate. Do you hate getting a or? It hasn't hit you yet, right? I hate getting old.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Yeah, I hate it too. I don't like it. You know who's worse than getting old? What? Not getting old. Oh, yes. Four years. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Like, I really don't like my surroundings, man.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I don't, I'm looking at everybody. You know, I can tell I'm getting old because, you know, I'm a big newshead. So I watch eyewitness news all the time or seeing that. Unless you said, you can't watch that. No, no. I watch it, right? I digest that every, for the beginning of time.
Starting point is 00:13:10 But when the announcers start looking mad old, the people I've been watching for 20 years and all that, they just start looking mad. Oh, that means we're getting old. Right? Because we was watching them when they was young and we was young. All of a sudden, they look in prehistoric.
Starting point is 00:13:27 This shit out of control. No, I'm telling you, I mean, you ever see somebody dead alive? Stuck in the face? Nah, stuck in the face different. No, no, like when you ever seen somebody, you know, oh shit. Is she dead or not?
Starting point is 00:13:44 Like, I've been in airports where, whenever when you look at them and you be like, damn it, he looked dead. But he alive. They're about to go. I guess that's how you could tell they about the goat, right? Because it's like, you know, you never seen that? He's a lot.
Starting point is 00:14:01 I mean, everybody's seen that. I've seen dead people. Alive. That's alive, yeah. Then you look at them and you're like, oh, he's about to go. Or she about to go. His color ain't right. It's a couple rappers that look dead.
Starting point is 00:14:13 That's a lot. A couple rappers? Oh, yeah. Your algorithm is off you. No, no, no. You ain't looking at that, niggas? Yo, let me tell you something. We got a lot of stuff to talk about,
Starting point is 00:14:28 but I want to ask you, because I was thinking about it the other day, cracking the 80s. That's a little kid in the 80s, really? But you've seen what it did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it disrupted households. It was everywhere. You couldn't escape.
Starting point is 00:14:44 It was in your family. It was outside your crib. It was on the way to school It was in the school It was the teachers was on Friends, family family members It was crazy
Starting point is 00:14:57 It was everywhere It was an epidemic for real That affected anybody And by the way I never seen snowfall OJ crack in the 80s What's that the time are you on? We have a certain age
Starting point is 00:15:10 That we could we could Explain to the youth for What it was like So they don't fall for the okey dope now It's opioids now, crack. It's opioids, but it's still the same effect. Listen to what I'm saying. Because crack in the 80s,
Starting point is 00:15:25 it first caught the fly guys in the room. They start smoking woolers in the club. Free base with the weed. Boom, the fly guy. Like, in other words, being you might have been smoking crack if it came out now. We didn't know. I'm just sure.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Listen. If I did you talk about, I don't care when he came out. This is why I'm trying to say. I ain't hit that man, May. You wait me. Shout out to my nigga crossy feet up. I ain't hit that man made, crack. Let me explain something to you.
Starting point is 00:15:57 The way they did it to the hood was it attacked the fly guys first. The hustlers, the stick up kids, guys robbing banks, this, that. It was fly. Crack was flying. You spent a little $50 and you thought, imagine. This is where our age difference. I don't, I miss when it was fly. This is why.
Starting point is 00:16:21 I didn't, I wasn't there for when it was right. I'm bringing it up. All right, I'm missing it. I'm a student in this. Why I bring it up? I went on vacation with Norrie. And Norrie cracked open some weed. There was $100 a joint.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Some crazy shit. To me, that's crazy. I know about that. For a guy like me, a virgin in weed, that's crazy. One joint $100. That's like the Japanese. Japanese whiskey. Yeah, they got the $1,000.
Starting point is 00:16:49 They got the $1,000 ounces. So my point is, at that time, all the guys that had money was fly. You know, they have records like bass or rock. Doom, doom, a doom, baby. The biggest rappers at the time was singing about the shit, so they thought they was fly. But they didn't know that they was getting hit
Starting point is 00:17:11 with that addiction. That's so unbelievable. right so crack actually was so addictive it was almost like AI man that we can't even believe AI when you see AI and they be on Instagram these girls ain't even girls they AI these they're selling you drugs uh pharmacy everything on Instagram and all social media AI that's how crack's addiction was they've never seen it before so you can't even really blame the first guys and girls who got hooked on crack. Now, if you're talking about your era
Starting point is 00:17:48 10 years later, you smoke crack, you know it fucked everybody up. They selling their TVs. You played yourself. That's what I saw. TVs for Sim. I ain't away. I saw that too.
Starting point is 00:17:58 I see, I seen, yo, I had a woman in my building that I promise you, if I do the knowledge, she was at least, if she wasn't a wife, she was the side chick to an NBA player.
Starting point is 00:18:12 For short, she was that bad. in my building. She had three kids. The kids were beautiful. It's a respectable woman. And she turned into a crackhead. And everybody who dreamed about smashing,
Starting point is 00:18:26 wound up smashing for a couple of... Joins. Cracks. It was that horrible. You know, and so much of an addiction, you know, I don't use drugs. Never have used drugs in any way, right? Diet Pepsi's enough.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Diet Pepsi? Yo, that's my choice. choice of drug. You know how many of my friends I see Gamble and they be like they bet that the guy scores 14. May is here. He bet 10,000 the guys score 14. They took him out the game with 12.
Starting point is 00:18:58 That's a drug. Yeah. Huh? Talk to me. That's a drug. Some people smoke crack. Some people smoke sniff coke. Some people got the thusi, thusie bee, the pink coke. They do the epioids. The distin. I drink Diet Pepsi.
Starting point is 00:19:14 That's the least. drug of choice, right? But my point is something that bugs me out, even a guy like me, who I don't see me being in any type of loop. Who knows of me
Starting point is 00:19:31 ever becoming drug addicted, right? But ain't it scary if you think about this, a normal human out there? That there's something out there. It's so addictive that it could fuck your whole world up, your whole life, up. We just got to try it.
Starting point is 00:19:48 You know, Scott Storch, 90 million. And one year he spent $90 million. He told me when he tried that for the first time, Coke, not crack. And it was like,
Starting point is 00:20:04 it's something so addictive in this world that if it hits you, you're done. That's not scared. You ever thought about that? No. I'm fucking crazy. because I'm the only motherfucker to think about some shit like this.
Starting point is 00:20:19 No, I'm scared. I'm telling you. I'm scared. When you see Fat Joe never high and all that, I might like the shit. That's why I don't do it. You guys don't do it because I know people who have tried it
Starting point is 00:20:33 one time in their life and it fucked their whole life up. Same shit with one of them guys. What's Alec Baldwin's brother? What's my man? Stephen Baldwin said Madonna gave the shit. shit to him. He was having a menage. Same thing with Scott Storch.
Starting point is 00:20:49 They was having a menage and the girl said, yeah, let's do it. And do the shit. And Stephen Baldwin set the same shit. He took one sniffing, was like, you know, the addiction ain't for everybody. It hit different people different way. Fucked this whole life up.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Some mean albums out there. Oh, you go on album mode? Okay. I talk about life. Yeah. Ray Kwan's album, fight. Quine is chef. Freddie Gibbs album with Alchemist. The shit is crack. Man, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Freddie Gibbs' Alchemist's album is really, really crazy. Ray Kwan, I love what Naz is doing, throwing out those clad. You heard that new ghost face song? Ghost face single, crazy. He dumbed out. My favorite Wu-Tang member. Who's your favorite Wu-Tang member? You don't want to answer, huh?
Starting point is 00:21:38 You got to have a favorite. All of them. You ain't got a favorite? All of them. My favorite Wu-Tang member is Ray Kwan the chef. I just love his delivery. I love everything he's staying for the shit. He was talking about.
Starting point is 00:21:54 He was like the drug dealer, Wu-Tang member. You know what I'm saying? And me, you know, I always been in that street, that paraphernalia. You know what I'm saying? So I could always relate to Ray more than everybody. And everybody else is phenom. Some people say expect a debt. Some people say you guard
Starting point is 00:22:16 Some people say All of them, my brother So we're going to say that Freddy Giz Alchemist's album is Phenon Alchemist hit me up and said thank us For bigging them up when we all picked them as one of our top beats That we ever rap to
Starting point is 00:22:33 You know? That's my brother out You know what I mean? Yeah, let me tell you, sir Yeah, yeah The new Mondeep album It's finished to shout out my hat. American history is full of wise people. What women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is gory.
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Starting point is 00:25:13 Let's find Reggie. We searched everywhere, but Reggie was gone. In February 2020, Reggie was having a diabetic episode. His mom called 911. Police cuffed him face down. He slipped into a coma and died. I'm like thanking you, but then I see, my son's not moving. No headlines, no outrage, just silence.
Starting point is 00:25:39 So we started digging and uncovered city officials bent on protecting their own. Listen to finding sexy sweat on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York state number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camp, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs
Starting point is 00:26:17 that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming, and you don't know who's next to you.
Starting point is 00:26:41 And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. nobody tells you anything listen to shock incarceration on the i heart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts you ever notice the new TVs the samsons and shit like that that they force you to watch the whack tv it ain't real tv right and it's shit always in like uh a cooking channel or some shit this shit you got to fight the tv to watch real tv now it comes on on that that bullshit on the hub. The bullshit fucking channel, man. Why?
Starting point is 00:27:18 Is that smart? Like, are they forcing people to watch Wack TV? The other day I get in the hotel. I'm like, it's the Waldorf Astoria in fucking L.A. I'm trying to watch CNN. I can't watch it because they got the bullshit channels on the Samsung bullshit.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I'm like, not the Waldorf. With this bullshit over here, like the bullshit channel. Yo, listen, the bottom line is no one should trust no one right how do you know if you you can't trust a new will you know trust a new person i don't need no new people in my life at this point of it i agree but can you trust a new like everybody around me been with me 30 years okay shit like that because if you look at regular people right just regular people they don't trust so if you ever notice you'll be on the
Starting point is 00:28:11 plane, because you're on the plane, I can land the fucking plane pretty much. I'm so scared of the fucking plane that I know everything, the short landing street. I know everything about the plane. I'm so terrified. I've studied everything. Do you notice that when the pilot comes out to use the bathroom, the airlines don't even trust the pilot to be alone in the plane? They get the fucking stewardess to put the car to go.
Starting point is 00:28:41 go in there, put the car, but go in there. Somebody goes in there. While he used the bathroom, the lady or the guy goes inside to sit with the other pilot because they scared this guy might play suicide and kill everybody. The fucking government, the plane people, they don't trust nobody. You never noticed that, right?
Starting point is 00:28:57 They don't trust that somebody going to go in there with a fucking weapon and take the plane. No, I'm talking about they don't even want the pilot alone. There was a pilot that just, there was an airplane that just crashed. India 767. That's the biggest plane in the world most safest.
Starting point is 00:29:12 The pilot, the last thing he said was, yo, why you cut off the fuel? He asked the other pilot, yo, why you cut off the fuel? That's the only way that plane's going to crash. So his man want to commit suicide with three, four hundred people, that's the point is we can't trust nobody.
Starting point is 00:29:30 So one of them jeopardies, they put, what's the address, the Cedric Avenue, 15, 15, your normal person, your normal moms, your normal school teacher or somebody like that, They wouldn't really technically know that was the birthplace of hip hop.
Starting point is 00:29:46 So that's justified, you know what I'm saying? But it's up to us to explain that, right? There's one of the biggest birthplace of hip-hop who worked through the parties there. And it became legendary. But, you know, hip-hop started in three different areas. So it started there. It started in Bronx River. Then it started in my hood, too.
Starting point is 00:30:10 So at three, at three, y'all, I'm not. Yo, kiss, what do you want me to say to you? You want me to tell you? I mean, shot rock, the first female emcee is from my block. Little Rodney C. Ruby D., the first Latino emcees from my block. Melly Mell's from my block. Lovebuck starsties from my block.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Oh, Grandmaster Flash used to play 23 Park. Like, I'm from the Mecca, the Saw You. There's no, they, so, you know, whenever anybody tries to start some hip-hop shit, They just can't. I'm from there. I'm sorry for you. Is it Sedgwick or is it your block? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:30:48 It started in three different places. Cedric is where Cool Herk is from, and we acknowledge that as a birthplace of hip-hop, but it started three different. It's bandborder, it's Flash, and it's Cool Herk. Those are the three founding fathers of hip-hop. And it started out in them three areas in the Bronx.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I happen to be from one of the areas where the biggest guys ever did it, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five. You know, one day I'm watching Melly Mel playing basketball across the street from my house, and the next day he's doing Chaka Khan, Shaka Khan at the Grammys beat. You know, I seen them when they all got, the whole Furious Five got their first,
Starting point is 00:31:30 they got their first white 190 Benzes, and they pulled up to my block back to back on them shits like this, and I'm watching it as a little kid, like, You know, I'm really from that. That's not even what you made me go there because you put the cat face. It's not cat. There's nothing I could do.
Starting point is 00:31:46 I'm sorry. I was born there, the Mecca. But 15 and 15th, Sedgwick. That's Melly Mellie Mell saying Shuckercocon. Yeah, Shucka Khan. I want to get you Shucka Khan. I want to need a succor con. That's Melly Mellie Mell.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Huh? 1520, Sedgwick Avenue? Okay, I'm five paces off. but the thing is that's across the street from River Park Towers is that's one way in one way out
Starting point is 00:32:13 they throw them fucking refrigerators at you off the roof of them River Park Towers that shit be lucky to go in and come out
Starting point is 00:32:23 that's not don't go see some girl at River Park Towers you ain't coming out that's a different type of thing but yo Jeter man Will I am
Starting point is 00:32:33 says that Blackthor is a truly This is hip-hop. We've got to discuss this, Jada. He's one trillion times better than Jay-Z. That's how he feels. Where do you want me to elaborate on how that man feels?
Starting point is 00:32:52 So that's it. You just say that's how he feels, that's that. Yeah, I came from where you mind your business. I was talking mind my business. Me personally, I let the facts be the facts, and I let the history. determine yourself. You had your shot
Starting point is 00:33:10 to make hits to be the biggest in the game. She was a model for a year and a half. I had my shot. We all had our shot at who's the best rapper or who's the biggest rap in the game.
Starting point is 00:33:27 The roots played and are still playing an integral part of hip-hop. They also crossed up. They're like J.B. Smooth. You know, they hooked up with the Jewish white guy,
Starting point is 00:33:42 and they got the lick. They're in. Like, they could do bar mitzvahs and all the white joints. All I'm going to tell you is, you're never going to hear a rapper say fucking co-plays a million times better than black IP. They put that out there, and that's the reason the hip-hop is hanging on a string
Starting point is 00:34:03 is they fucking making everybody go against each other for no reason, just for small talk and clicks and get the most traffic to your thing. If that's how he feels, fuck it, that's how he feels. But there's no way on Google, you can Google chat, GBT, whatever, whoever the fuck you want, you're not going to find Ove or Black Thought. No way of saying, The Backstreet Boys is a trillion times better than N-Sync.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Leave our fucking culture alone. that's my opinion too is you starting off some shit and then he's going to go be in a state of the heart tails so we're making cars and don't do that what's called for them if you feel like that
Starting point is 00:34:50 that's fine but we need no more nuclear bombs set off in hip-hop unless it's called for a billion this guy's a rich tech he makes cars you're going to go on the interview and just saying
Starting point is 00:35:05 I mean that's his thought's cool but we don't need. Think of it. Find me somewhere where a prolific rabbit went somewhere and said this guy's better than will I am a trillion time.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Well, if I say it, right? If you say it, you can't say it yourself anyway because even the time, L.O. Kujay's invented goat. It's one of the goats. But when he said I'm better than everybody or he said some statement like, I'm the greatest.
Starting point is 00:35:35 If somebody says, it about themselves is different than somebody, for one, that ain't, the type of music you do ain't even our type of music to just go up there and just put two people against you. He almost lined up
Starting point is 00:35:50 black thought, huh? Like, if you think about it. He lined up everything because what the fuck dude, I got to do with any. Even if that's his thoughts. Save it to your fucking soul. I'm going to move on from there because he might have stopped the bomb shell, a nuclear, whatever the case may be.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Yeah, thank you for... The more we put lighter flowing on it, the more is gold. Let that shit go down. They both great. There's a difference between fucking up and being fucked up, huh? Definitely.
Starting point is 00:36:28 You know, I sit with my sisters. I sat the other day, had dinner with... I was just to marry Jay. M.J. And all of them. And, you know, I don't think I bother them when I was just hungry. So I was like, yo, where you got at? They were like, yo, yeah, I'm pulling up.
Starting point is 00:36:44 I got to eat some shit, right? But when I had these conversations with the women, you know, beautiful conversations, but she said there's a difference between fucking up and being fucked up. You could fuck up. Yeah. That don't mean you fucked up. Which one you rather be? Man.
Starting point is 00:37:02 You'd rather fuck up or you'd rather be fucked up? It depends on what level of... I'd rather fuck up. There's a chance to fix that and you learn from your lesson. Being fucked up is no good. No way. You know, when we in the world of...
Starting point is 00:37:15 Is it just me or we in a weird time in life? Right? Like, I feel like everybody's doing bad financially. You've seen the jobs report the other day was like 14,000 jobs in a month. You know, if Biden did less than a half a million a month, they was like, it's the end of earth.
Starting point is 00:37:34 motherfucker got 7,000 a month, 14, 17. I mean, if the numbers are correct, people doing fucked up out here. I got my mom's dad a condo today. I saw that, man. That was beautiful, man. You know, that was the best thing I ever did for my mother and father.
Starting point is 00:37:53 I bought them a house, and I remember when I went through the tax thing, and I realized that my accountant wasn't paying mortgages. When I first heard it, I was more worried about my mother and father's house than I was even money. I was like, yo, they could come take my mother's house, my father's house. So it must be a beautiful feeling, purchase something for mom and dad.
Starting point is 00:38:13 It's beautiful, man. It's a blessing, you know what I mean? That we can't take for granted. It's something you, as a little kid, that's something you wish you could always do. You know, I love that. You know, Denzel Washington, I can't quote him, but he was saying, sometimes families don't understand. Your own family don't understand.
Starting point is 00:38:33 when you're trying to win and overcome a generational curse you know what I'm saying and your own family won't understand that you're trying to get to the promised land you know financially generationally
Starting point is 00:38:49 because I think that's the game we plan we're trying to lay it down so generation whoever comes behind us got a better plan for you they could afford college they can afford whatever they want They ain't got living the projects no more.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Facts. And me growing up in the projects, such a big family, like, I can't do something for everybody. I actually think I have done something for everybody in my family different times. But there's a cousin of mine that's probably a third cousin
Starting point is 00:39:23 that lives in the projects in the Lower East Side that I barely even know. I might know their moms that people are telling them, yo, you fat Joe's cousin. You're supposed to be in the big house. They do it to our friends. They'll do it to your friends.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Your friends' wives or girlfriends are telling them, yo, why you ain't got that? Some boys got it. That's your man. You know him. Stay away from them. And that's the difference of how far does that go to Survivor's guilt or the success? Rest in peace, the hit man, how we see?
Starting point is 00:40:00 Did you know? I never met Howie Tee, but I always respected his contributions to hip-hop. Howie Tito. I've always been jealous of people with their own theme song. So I'm telling you, Tommy Mottola just asked me to do his documentary, and they were asking me, yo, what about it? And I was like, yo, Tommy Mottola lives on the road.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Like, imagine they made a hit record about you That they're playing all over the world Like Howie T, when I tell you that shit was wavy When he had the Howie Tito Oh, whoa Howie Tito, do do do do you That shit was crazy Some of the groups, James, special ad
Starting point is 00:40:53 Chabra. He did salt and pepper It's probably his biggest group But color me bad, That was, like, the white... Howie was Herbie. You were Herbie. That was Herb and Salt Pepper?
Starting point is 00:41:05 Yeah. Howie T did. Sweet tea. He did sweet tea, too. He did sweet tea too, right? But Howie T, living legend, he should get all the flowers he deserves. Definitely. Rest and peace and prayers and condoluses to his family.
Starting point is 00:41:21 You know, I always get surprised when somebody passes away in hip-hop that I never met. Yeah, me too. Because you meant everybody. I bet everybody. I feel weird when I ain't meet him. You know who else met everybody? Buster Rhymes. Yeah, shout out the Buster.
Starting point is 00:41:41 He got a star on the Walk of Fame, man. He deserved that. I seen the picture with M.A. L.L. That was fine. Beyond that. They won in the last two. I mean, L.L. is the first. For our era that's left and Buster.
Starting point is 00:41:56 We did something. You were a couple of them right behind them. I'm coming me on. Am I coming with the Euro or I'm coming with it? Yo, this motherfucker. You got a new. Your shit ain't the Euro though because it's the first. It's the fluidity.
Starting point is 00:42:11 I got to get a new name for your step. Yeah. No, no, I like that one. But, you know, Buster Mom's leaders in a new school. Shout out to Long Island, they claim them too. I know he says he's from Brooklyn. He grew up in Brooklyn went to school with Biggie. and um
Starting point is 00:42:29 Jay Z but Long Island claims him and Keith Mary I missed a big one Keith Mary and the Long Island's kid Keith Mary's not just an incredible rapper
Starting point is 00:42:42 he's one of my brothers so I'm sorry if I messed up and I missed out with Keith Mary people were saying them they've done a lot of people
Starting point is 00:42:53 you know it's just was amazing their contribution let's talk about Jersey now We don't get some unsung heroes. We'll salute the legends of Jersey. Y'all got to stop.
Starting point is 00:43:03 I think we got Jersey. A salute jersey, man, Red Man, Queen Latifah, Norty by Nature, Lord's of the Underground. Go one by one. Artifacts. Wycliffe. Bras.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Sugar Hill. Fetty Wop. Joe Buttons. Ransom. Chill Rob G. Rod Digger. Outsiders. Outiders.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Hurricane G. Apache Wow Redhead Kingpin Redhead Kingpin Come on man I'm leaving niggas out
Starting point is 00:43:36 man don't leave niggas out Club Zanzibar Lord's a ball Lord's of the Underground Poor righteous teachers Hey from this Shack Yes
Starting point is 00:43:49 Yeah Shack Poor righteous T let's go The whole Jersey Salute In the Nody by nature Tretch
Starting point is 00:43:56 Tretches is the Un-s sung hero. You said, Trent. Yeah, but let's try to break it down, though. You just want to run through the list like that. Let's go. I think Red Man... I follow you, Lee.
Starting point is 00:44:09 I think Red Man is the most underrated MC ever lived in a hip-hop game. Hell no. I think it's not about Red Man, would be too. Crazy. Yeah, but they don't know about Red Man the way they know about Red Man. But maybe me... Yeah, they know about the film. Yeah, I totally disagree.
Starting point is 00:44:25 So you think a random commercialized... They know about Red Man. They know about Red Man. You know about hip-hop? You fucking know about Redmond. And they don't give him his props. It's impossible. Redmond was so good.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Who is they? I'm talking about they. I don't know who they is. They don't want us to win. They don't want us. They. Hypothetically speaking. Kid him, Reggie's that negative, though.
Starting point is 00:44:50 I agree. So I'm just trying to say. The fifth stages of globally. I think it's one of the greatest emcees of all time. My point is His name should be up there When everybody's top 10 Top 5, whatever they want to do
Starting point is 00:45:06 He's that good Right Queen Latifah I'm iconic, legendary There's nothing we can do about that That's legendary Just put her up there Just put on
Starting point is 00:45:21 A lot of Rushmore's of all types of Different umbrellas of Rushmore's Nordy by nature they had the game in the frenzy Rips shit Oh, hey Vinny KG KG went on to produce
Starting point is 00:45:35 A lot of Arnhem, Jean-A Charnet He had all of the dudes rocking Next Next
Starting point is 00:45:44 Next is one of my favorite groups Right Shout out the RL RL The Ours The outsiders I put them into the equation because they're the first people
Starting point is 00:45:56 I ever seen bring Eminem out. Fatah Usain, rest in peace. Jersey. That was crazy to me, right? One day we got to interview Muta Bell on here from the outsiders and explain how did the two-bott were they cousins or something? Because he's... The outlaws.
Starting point is 00:46:17 The outlaws. Fado Usain. That was my man. What I'm saying is when they beefing the East Coast, West Coast, It's crazy that the guys who's on all the ill records with pockets from Jersey How did that happen?
Starting point is 00:46:35 Did they meet them in L.A.? How did that go down? Like, this is the East Coast, West Coast beef and these guys was from right here under the nose of New York, Jersey. And so, who else we got on that list for Jersey? He said, All right to see you was incredible.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Fettie Wap. Joe Rob Giggott. Fettie Watt. Sugar Hill gang. Wycliffe, Lauren Hill, greatest female of all time. I don't care what you say. You know, sometimes people get mad because, you know, certain artists are put in a level of it ain't even artists.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Like people say, who's your top five? you bring up Lauren, they might be like, yo, she don't even count, but she does count, right? I made a mistake. She didn't count. I wouldn't she count. She's the greatest of all time. Some people say she don't count.
Starting point is 00:47:37 They got to get out of it. She counts. But they think she's the cheat code. She's the AI. So what I'm saying is the other day, I take the top five DJs, top five DJs, And with Caled, I threw him in that category.
Starting point is 00:47:59 I was like, yo, Caller too big. They even call him a DJ. And he pissed kick and pre-off with that. Why? Because he wanted to big up Cal. I don't even know what he's pissed off about. I put him first on the list. I'm going to stop bigging niggas up.
Starting point is 00:48:13 No, it's like two or three guys that I bigged up. And they wind up dissing me. And I'm like sitting here like, yo, like, I'm bigging you up. but Callet definitely would have been on my top five DJ list you know but when I look at Callet I always look at him as his catalog is so big the man DJ Callet his catalog is so big I feel like it's so much bigger
Starting point is 00:48:42 than just DJing when you are DJ and you got a DJ shout out to DJ nasty from Orlando when Callet doesn't show he got a DJ you don't DJ He has a DJ So, Yeah, were you in a DJ with a DJ? Hello? Let's go DJ.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Let's go DJ. But there's certain people on that list. Your dog house got a dog house? Chill Rob G. That's one of the most clad. It's getting. It's getting kind of hectic. SP put me on the Chill Rob G.
Starting point is 00:49:17 In high school, Sp used to love Chill Robbjee. You put me on. He was nice. He was nice. He was dope and he had a big commercial hit. I got the power. It was two.
Starting point is 00:49:30 It was Jill Rob G. Who else? They had two versions. How did they have it? Imagine you did, why JTA wanted this and then that and somebody else got the same song, same beat. How did that happen?
Starting point is 00:49:44 It was two, I got the powers. At the same time, video music, but I played both of them. How did that happen? One chill Rob G. I think it was SNC music factor. And the chill Rob Jeezberg. Both hits at the same fucking time, same beat, same song. I got the power.
Starting point is 00:50:04 How did they pull that shit off? That must have been before clearing samples, huh? Sports talk, man, Gilbert Arena's got arrested. What the fuck is going on? Slinky right here, though. You! What the fuck is going on? with these ball players.
Starting point is 00:50:25 What's my man, Bridges? He's still in the fucking NBA, the two twins. Morris. Morris. He got locked up to him. That was a mistake. Huh?
Starting point is 00:50:37 I think Gil's shit wasn't as big as they, you know, I don't think it was. He got locked up by the feds. But he also got out. And I think twin, I think twin, that was a mistake too. I think that was a mistake.
Starting point is 00:50:51 He got the money. It don't make sense to you, right? Yeah, he got them. So that was my immediate reaction of like what? Things like that happen in the casino. And then because you black, they make it big. Let me explain, Senator. I hate to burst your bubble.
Starting point is 00:51:07 I'm going to burst my bubble. I don't owe nobody, none. Yeah. I hate the burst your bubble. God willing, I'm wrong. But I've seen this play out. He's illegal gambling spots and somebody who's famous.
Starting point is 00:51:22 is involved and all that. They usually get a year and a day. They could do a year and a day. All right, but they're big NBA days. When I see them stories, I know how that shit play out. And if they came and got you, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:40 9 out of 99 out of 100 times. When them alphabet letters come to that front door, your best choice is saying, okay, let's see what's the least time we're going to get. unfortunately it's like that now if you want to be Robin Hood and think you can take them on and beat them and you're lucky enough or whatever
Starting point is 00:52:00 but these are terrible I just don't wish that for them I wish it never happened whatever it is I hope it's a mistake like you say because it's crazy not the feds you're twin and Gil said he's snitching
Starting point is 00:52:17 you said he snitching there's jokes man you'd be all right You're rich, how are you feeling about Jerry Jones don't want to pay Michael Parsons, man? What you think, Rich, Mr. Dallas Cowboy? How are you feeling about that? It's not as straight.
Starting point is 00:52:32 He's down there on the staff of Dallas. Definitely. They paid your man with the real stinky leg. What's your man? Dad Prescott. That got one of them. What? His shit is like hybrid glazing.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Like, yeah. His shit. I'll put up a picture. one time I was about to get canceled that boy got the leg
Starting point is 00:52:56 what that boy broke his leg one time his shit was like Hubbercraft and B
Starting point is 00:53:02 like out of control made me he looked like a like a perfect leg his shit
Starting point is 00:53:08 perfect leg his shit I posted it when I tell you the death threats I got like
Starting point is 00:53:14 yo you know this shit was quick like so we're part of the he's a fraud
Starting point is 00:53:19 that Prescott is a fraud a fraud. And he's only there to sell candles. Cairns? Huh? Campbell's, no, I'm saying candles and fragrances. Your man is Lollipop records.
Starting point is 00:53:33 He's not going to win no chip. I guess we ain't anybody. We're doubling and tripling down. We ain't getting to feel best. The sad part, you know, he's a handsome guy. They market him. Stoney? They don't want to win games. Nah. Not with him.
Starting point is 00:53:49 I don't see that. And then, and And Parsons, who's worth the money, they're giving them a hard time. You know, what you got to understand is this. This is almost like the government, right? There's people, this government does some things. Although we're proud Americans and we vote and we pack taxpayers and all that, we don't agree with, but we can't change it. They're the government.
Starting point is 00:54:15 It's the same thing with the owners of franchises. Jerry Jones, anybody in their right mind. who's a fucking Dallas Cowboy fan knows, pay that man, stop playing with him. Because you don't want to lose him, right? World War West since his love. Big out, big shout out the West. We love you, baby. American history is full of wise people.
Starting point is 00:54:47 What women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is gory. Those founding fathers were gossipy A.F. And they love to cut each other down. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history, and I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer. Hamilton pauses, and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar.
Starting point is 00:55:18 And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves. that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption. My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said. It would have been harder to fake it than to do it. Listen to American History Hotline on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be helped. on earth. Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term,
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Starting point is 00:56:42 The summer of 1993 was one of the best of my life. I'm journalist Jeff Perlman, and this is Rick Jervis. We were interns at the Nashville Tennessean. But the most unforgettable part are roommate, Reggie Payne, from Oakland, sports editor and aspiring rapper. And his state's name, sexy sweat. In 2020, I had a simple idea. Let's find Reggie. We searched everywhere, but Reggie was gone.
Starting point is 00:57:10 In February 2020, Reggie was having a diabetic episode. His mom called 911. Police cuffed him face down. He slipped into a coma and died. I'm like thanking you, but then I see, my son's not moving. No headlines, no outrage, just silence. So we started digging and uncovered city officials bent on protecting their own. Listen to finding sexy sweat on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:58:15 He never thought he was going to get caught. And I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha. On America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors. And you'll meet the team behind the scenes at Othrum, the Houston Lab that takes on the most hopeless cases, to finally solve the unsolvable. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:58:39 or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, I wait, I wait, I wait. Oh, yo, yo, yo, yo. I got a yo, yo, yo, for you. Yo, I went to SummerSlam. What's the guy that works for Michael Rubin? Sitting next to me, the red-haired guy, Michael. Look up his name.
Starting point is 00:59:03 He's the president of a fanatics. He's sitting next to me because I got a witness. Okay? So I go SummerSlam. I'm trying to tell you. I'm about to tell you a story that's going to ring off Cap mania. They're going to be like, it's not true. true, but it's a million
Starting point is 00:59:19 percent true. So I go to SummerSlam, right? And I went because a good friend of mine, Jelly Row, was wrestling. Right? So I know he trained four months. I know Jelly Row, but, you know, he's a big boy. You know, I stick with the big
Starting point is 00:59:35 boys. Pause. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I told you already. That ain't even part of this story. All the fat guys, I'm in their corner. right so i go huh mike herman is my whoever knows mike herman
Starting point is 00:59:55 he's the president for that he's sitting right next the point is carty b sitting there too he gets to the jelly row it's jelly roll against logan paul and uh jelly won't come out with this guy what's that rest of jelly roll have with him yo kiss
Starting point is 01:00:16 none of them us. None of us want the fair one. We don't even want the 10 on one. We don't even want to be able to have a knife to fight this guy. What? Randy, or even if he gave you weapons, you don't want to fight this guy. This guy is so big, bro. Like, he's unreal. Anybody go Google him. If you don't know wrestling, this guy's the prototype, right? He might be the first human AI guy, right? I'm looking at the dude, Logan Paul's incredible, right? But I'm looking at the
Starting point is 01:00:50 he's unreal, as a human being, it's like, this guy is a problem, right? So I go, I'm looking and I'm cheering jelly roll up. They are beating the brakes off of jelly roll. They are double suplexing them.
Starting point is 01:01:09 They doing my man so filthy. Now, I'm a fat guy. So I know every bone. I know what he. I know every. I know every. I'm a fat guy who lost weight. So I know when he falls, I say, that's two months out of the country awards.
Starting point is 01:01:29 He is not going to the country awards. Not after this shit. This was a childhood dream. I salute you, Jellywell. In fact, I've never seen a celebrity. Because you know you had Donald Trump in there. You had a bunch of celebrities. Mike Tyson.
Starting point is 01:01:43 It went up in there But didn't really do Snoop Jelly Roll was on top of the Robs getting suplex Getting hit with chairs Over the dead Like he was all in
Starting point is 01:01:55 They beat the brakes Out of this guy Yo And I'm there for Jelly Row Right So I'm filming the shit They put him on the table Right
Starting point is 01:02:07 I got it on my story I'm front row They put them on the table and Logan Paul's up on the top rope. He's outside on the table in front of the things. The man jumps and crashes
Starting point is 01:02:23 on Jelly Row. I immediately was like all right, there he goes out for four months. There's no way. But like, I mean, they suckered me in. So Jelly Rolls acting like he's hurt. So there's about I was about to say
Starting point is 01:02:39 a hundred. Let me just keep it off the cap circuit. Ten guys. ran over in girls, 10 guys and girls. Rand over, oh, my God, are you okay? I'm thinking he's hurt because I'm a fat guy. I know what just happened. I know... You know every bone.
Starting point is 01:02:54 The vertebrained. I know his shit is fucked up, B. So I'm thinking he's really hurt. I'm like, yo, come on, jelly. But I'm really concerned. I'm going to be honest with you, Joseph Antonio Cardahena. It's concerned about Jellybow. They beat the shit out this dude.
Starting point is 01:03:11 So bad. fucking seven-foot shit that they did the double you know when they did the double on them I said come on my I can't do it no amount of money no amount of money could they double suplex me
Starting point is 01:03:28 I'd be dead I'm gonna be honest to you I break my own shit I don't know what the fuck Jelly Row did to endure but anyway they got them on the floor I'm believing it okay and Cardi B's right next to me get up
Starting point is 01:03:42 get up she's all in right so i'm sitting there i'm like jelly i'm really all jokes aside word to my mother i'm thinking he's really hurt because they ran over like they didn't do this the whole time they ran over like 10 of them yo jelly jett and they talking to him i'm thinking this guy he gets up and help him up took like 10 minutes they fucking this man up over there his tag team partner they beating the break They jumping him to death over there. He's getting his ass.
Starting point is 01:04:15 The big guy, they beat the brace off this dude while Jelly Roe is like, you know. Jelly Roe gets up and turns around this. I'm sorry, Joe. I can't fight no more. I can't make it. I tried, Joe. Thank you for support me, Joe. It's a million people in this fucking arena.
Starting point is 01:04:39 This is Jelly Roe. out of anybody, I swear to God, he looked at me. I'm sorry, Joe. I can't, Joe, I let you down. Joe, Michael, what's his name? It's right next to me. He said they definitely not going to believe you. The guy from our fanatics, he said they're not going to believe this shit.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Jelly Roe was telling me, I'm sorry, Joe. I can't finish. I'm like, but Jelly, I'm patting him on his back. Yo, Jelly, he's like, I'm sorry, Joe. I know you supported me. This, this, that. And he's walking. I'm like, damn, they fuck jelly, bro.
Starting point is 01:05:17 But in true WWE fashion, he gets to the tip. He turns around. He starts looking. They're like, jelly, jelly. And all of a sudden, the motherfucker, I got the power. Came back.
Starting point is 01:05:33 He came back and started clotheslining dudes, fucking him up. I got suckered for the wrestling. I felt like a hoaxomaniat. I felt like back in the day, I'm looking at Jelly Roe with J.L.L.A. JL.A. Screaming with the crowd. Jal A. L.A.
Starting point is 01:05:49 And let me tell you something. They still lost, but I got to salute Jelly Row. Y'all, I could, I cannot. Maybe I'm too old. Maybe he's a little bit. Jelly Role might be younger than me, right? I personally know I can't take that. For sure?
Starting point is 01:06:06 For sure. I can't take it. Man, he's way young. younger than me. I get it. 40 years old, maybe 39, 40 I'd have tried it. Right about now, with these amphibious legs, that shit off.
Starting point is 01:06:21 NBA, Luca got the new muscles, the new contract. Luca came up to Dyckman. They were shooting from the seat. Just water. They was going crazy in Dykemen for the guard. WNBA, they'd been throwing joint skis on the court.
Starting point is 01:06:37 You seen that? No. They was joint throwing joint skis? They went to Dynasty Commoddy? No, not joint skis. Joint skis. They're throwing dildos on the court in the WNBA.
Starting point is 01:06:52 That's a dildoes of joints key? I mean, I didn't want. I try to keep it politically correct. Yo, well, let me tell you something, man. This shit out of control. Like, yo, America's gone. Wow. Joint skis on the court is great.
Starting point is 01:07:05 And they keep throwing lime greenwoods. They caught the last. Somebody just got arrested. Somebody tried to keep it going and knock me. I went to the NBA, the WNBA with Remy, and she pulled up in my house and she got not just the short shorts. A short short. The short.
Starting point is 01:07:24 So I'm looking at her. I'm like, yo, sis, like, you're going to wear that shit in the game? What are you talking about, bro? I say, yo, my man. Yo, every time I look at the bench, they're doing this to Remy. Hot shit, blowing kiss. As soon as the game ended, they ran over Remy. I was like, yo, you look for the shit.
Starting point is 01:07:49 You came to the flow-inity. No, I ain't lying. And we love them. I'm a big fan of the WNBA. I got no problems. But I wonder, premeditated. I said, in my house with them shits. I said, yo, listen, this is going to be an issue.
Starting point is 01:08:08 She don't want, I said, all right. Every time I look over my shoulder, they're going, sending hearts and shit at Ram. I said, yo, Ram, you came to the wrong. You came to the, the motherfuckers. They ran over at the end of the game. Hey, Ram, love you, this, this, that. But they're doing joint skis at the game. That's violation.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Yeah, that's violation. But it got to be, nah, I ain't even jamming myself up like that. Don't. Please don't. Please don't. Because. Don't do. Rich.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Flag. Don't do. Pre-flag. Yo, let me tell you something, Jay DeKis. Congratulations. You're in the algorithm. Yo, this man, it didn't take long for this man to get in the system.
Starting point is 01:08:52 The joint skis on the court. That's the funnierst shit I ever heard in my life. I thought you meant like they had Dykeman throwing joints at Luca. No, no, like joints. Like marijuana. Not pre-rolls. Not pre-roles. They're throwing joyskies on the court.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Lime green jointskees. Oh, a lot. Why they lime green? I don't know where they get the, I don't know where they got the color way from. I just know he's throwing joint skis, man. We got to stop this. Pay them ladies with you owe them.
Starting point is 01:09:27 You know what? You know what? throwing them joint skis on the court, man. Yeah, somebody lost one of the mayor bets. They needed somebody to have two more points. They took them out, joint ski. They threw the yala on them. Yeah, that's my happening.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Your mayor's over there like this. Guy got 12. Who was it? You spent 10,000 you had on that game. Right. Tell everybody. What was the guy? What was the guy?
Starting point is 01:09:49 He scored 12. Chad Ogrim, bro. They pulled him out 12. I was like, yo, for sure. It was like seven minutes left. I'm like, for sure, he scored for two. 9,000, ladies and gentlemen, may have spent $9,000. $9,000.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Yeah, that was a $9,000 back. That's a Canadian border conversation there. Let me tell you something. Nobody bigger than the program, nobody is bigger than the program. And when people start thinking they bigger than the program, that's when they disappear. You know, and even I, me, I've had the conversation
Starting point is 01:10:32 because people look at me like I'm the leader of my crew. But I've had the conversation with guys in my crew where I say, nobody's bigger than the program. Even Fat Joe is accessible. If I, for some reason I'm out of here, you know, the show goes on. I ain't just talking about rap. I'm just talking about in life. And so people get confused thinking they bigger than the program.
Starting point is 01:10:57 like yeah your contributions is incredible yeah we appreciate what you do i mean if you want to be tough we got 30 tough guys what you feel about people when they start thinking they bigger than the program karma deal with them let god sort of them kill him and then let god sort of them i love that let me get let me let me get these questions in your jada's on one today boy let me tell you so If yesterday's, the fourth anniversary of our versus locks a dip set, then today's the anniversary of yesterday's price is not. Two days, what? Hello.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Hello. We didn't even got to do no questions. That was it. No, we don't need no questions. That's all the shit. We got to end it with that, man. I got to say shout out, rest of peace to Chubby, baby. No doubt.
Starting point is 01:12:05 There was dipset that moved down to Atlanta because he threw the battery in my back. I went to my store the next day. He was, you know, he was dipset. So we start talking about this shit. I said, you know what? Let me crack this IG open, pause, and talk about my experience in this
Starting point is 01:12:23 because he was so passionate about it. that we was going back and forth so much. I said, maybe somebody went to hear about the shit. And the numbers, because I used to do the IG, the numbers was, I don't even know how many, we had hundreds of thousands of people on the live at one time. I never did that before. And while I'm talking my shit,
Starting point is 01:12:43 I'll talk about you. And I just say, yo, any produce, any promoter that was negotiating with Jada kiss's team last week and didn't book them, just know that yesterday's price is not today's price yesterday's price is not today's price
Starting point is 01:13:05 and um superviral did I cash in on it I don't know I don't think I did much of it but I didn't get merch I didn't you know I thought I could sue somebody they had a bank company with a dude was dancing yesterday's price is not saying it like me
Starting point is 01:13:22 I try you okay I sue him He was like, you don't own this shit. It was like, damn, I thought we had them. Like, I'm not going to sue somebody of our nature, but you got a bank white dude with an umbrella. Yesterday's price is not saying that, I said, oh, I got him. He was like, no, you can't sue, you know. But it was fun times.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Yeah, I don't thank you. Let's get these questions, James. Yesterday's price is not today's price. That phrase right there, changed my life. Let me tell you something. And shout out to, what's your tea, Kanye? Kanye sample that started that yesterday, crack, crack, crack, crack on Diet Coke.
Starting point is 01:14:06 If I would have told him, it would have been a Diet Pepsi, even though I looked like a human diet Coke today. You know what I'm saying? Get the questions. Let's go. Yo, this is Brad Register from Wildwood, Florida. Now resigning in Newport News, Virginia. Yeah, I like what you guys doing, man.
Starting point is 01:14:23 I love y'all show. My question is, you know, when your guys were coming up through hip hop, like, what was your favorite show out of your MTV Raps or Rap City? And also, could you guys try to get Fab Five Freddy on the show? Because I know you guys like hearing stories and stuff like that. And he's like been around hip hop for a long time. So I know he got crazy stories. You MTV Raps or Raps City.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Rap City. Yo, MTV, rap. I'm gonna disrespect the whole shit and say video music box, really. He didn't give us that option, but we liked the video music box more than both of them. Now, Thad Fy Fy Fretty. We need him on the show. From graffiti, we need Fad Fy Friady. He's real hip-hop.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Fat-Five, Freddy, I think he did the first collab, because when I was looking into, like, I can't explain it to you any other way. The Bronx was a wars of him. Like, people live in the band of buildings. The biggest gang wasn't the Bloods and Crips. It was the stray dogs. So when I think about the beginning of hip-hop, I can't believe a white girl...
Starting point is 01:15:34 Fairfile Freddy's from the Bronx? No, I'm not saying that. Thank the Lord. But it started in the Bronx. Russell Simmons came to the Bronx. They all came to the Bronx. The fever of the first nightclub playing hip-hop is in the Bronx, Sala Betelho.
Starting point is 01:15:49 What I'm trying to say is, I never understood the first major collaboration was Blondie, right? Up in the, I never understood how did this white girl had the heart to either go Sedgwick, Bronx River, or my hood, and make this song and have rappers on there. And then when I went down to like trying to figure out how it happened, Five Freddie made that happen. you know how early he had to be in the game of hip hop
Starting point is 01:16:23 to make that song possible to Blondie rapcha let's begin in the hip hop so I agree with this brother right here we need fat five Freddy on the show just to keep it I mean that's what I think we're doing preserving the culture next question please
Starting point is 01:16:41 yo Jada this is not a question Do you remember walking into TGI Fridays and Yonkers at Cross County and buying a girl A Hennessy shot after leaving the hospital You had a hospital band That's my newborn baby That was the coolest thing you've ever done I was in absolute shock
Starting point is 01:17:04 I said nothing, you said nothing Bought me a shot of Hennessy and walked out I love you, one of my favorite rappers I just have to share that memory with you In case you don't remember that No recollection I was off anesthesia He got super love for you
Starting point is 01:17:20 And shout out to Stu Lennox Man, they came out for that Sochese out of Rum Puerto Rican rum They came out by the 100th You knew it, right? You told me it was gonna be lit Stu Lenis, Yonkis
Starting point is 01:17:34 What's up y'all Yo Joe, yo Jada What's up, man It's your boy ranks a million From the Bronx and all that I just want to ask Why are DJs and like mainstream artists not discovering
Starting point is 01:17:47 or breaking new artists no more. They're leaving it all to the new artists to do it by themselves and then they want to help once the up-and-coming artists already did what they needed to help with. I think that's on the individual. I mean, some people
Starting point is 01:18:03 don't know how to ask for help. Some people don't know how to offer help and some people don't know how to do either one. Me, I gave up on helping artists. I'm all out of favors myself. I'm all out of taking every relationship I ever had and signing you
Starting point is 01:18:18 and introducing you to you to all my important people and then paying for your videos buying your clothes putting you in the studio helping you make the hands and then as soon as you pop you tell me I ain't shit
Starting point is 01:18:30 I'm not doing that no more I'm firm on it in fact I heard the artist and I'm going to shout you out I don't know what your name is but I went to this thing pretty little be doing this DJ
Starting point is 01:18:43 a turntable thing, battle thing, and everybody was in there and I went to Jersey and I went down there and some dude rapped who normally I would have signed him
Starting point is 01:18:55 in one second. This guy was so nice lyrically, fluidly. Every word he said came Crystal Claire. And after he performed he came around me and all I could do is say,
Starting point is 01:19:07 yo, bro, congratulations. Was that with you or Chris? Chris said, yo joe this guy's incredible i said yeah but he's gonna tell me suck his dick and you know he was the biggest he was the biggest in the game before he met me he's the live is he's he knows everything he's like i'm like i'm not doing that like i just can't help you no more i've been burnt too many times pause next question please hey what's up y'all man this dj nassanate
Starting point is 01:19:39 calling straight out of south florida man for four miles hey my question is man And y'all long been doing it so long. But was the one thing that you wish you would have never did? One thing I wish I never did is gave so many people my phone number. You got the same number for like 20 years and all that? Recent. I used to change my shit like socks. What was the question again, James? What's one of the things you wish you never did?
Starting point is 01:20:08 Beat so many people up. Certain ones. talked it out. Yeah, yeah. She talked it out a few times. It was certain ones that when I look back, I just say it just didn't make sense. And I'm keeping it a buck.
Starting point is 01:20:26 It didn't make sense that when I look back at it now, like, yo, you know what? Because sometimes you beat a guy up and they become martyrs. And people, you know, look at them like, you know, they wasn't even authorized to get beat up. These guys didn't even deserve it. You know, but now they're the guys that Fat Joe and the Territ Squad beat up.
Starting point is 01:20:48 And they're running around the, oh, yo, that's homie. You know, Fat Joe and them beat them up. Like too much fluidity for these guys in the hood. They didn't even deserve it. You know what I'm saying? Yo, I'm Joe Crack. Your boy Jada. It's the Joe and Jada.
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