Joe and Jada - Fat Joe & Jadakiss on Drake's UK rap take, "Lean Back" history, Taylor-Serrano III & TOP hip hop DJs

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss react to Drake's take that UK rappers have "the world's best lyricists," Skepta calling out US hip hop and igniting a beef with Joyner Lucas, Katie Taylor beating Amanda Serrano on Netflix to put a nail in their trilogy, and Edgar Berlanga losing to Hamzah Sheeraz via a fifth-round KO. Joe and Jada also reveal their favorite hip hop DJs of all-time, including Kid Capri, Funkmaster Flex, DJ Jazzy Jeff, and others. They round out the show with a round of fan questions, with Joe breaking down his struggle with his publishing rights before dropping "Lean Back," Jada revisiting his epic Verzuz battle with The Lox against Dipset, and both hip hop legends discussing their dream collaborations and the iconic tracks they wish they'd been able to feature on. 2:30 - Katie Taylor vs. Amanda Serrano III & Berlanga's loss 6:30 - Rucker Park flipping on Joe 11:30 - Drake's UK rap take & Skepta vs. Joyner Lucas 16:00 - Joe's hilarious run-in with Nems 18:00 - Favorite DJs of all time 25:30 - Fan Q&A 28:00 - Best beats they've ever rapped to 34:00 - Revisiting The Lox vs. Dipset Verzuz battleSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He called me and said, thank you, Joe. My bookings are going up. We the hottest moving out here right now. Yeah. Yeah. What up y'all? This is Joe crack. No, it is your boy Jada. You know what this is the Joe and Jada show.

Just like that. Ha ha! Scott. We back. I had a rough weekend. Yeah, tell me about it. We been, before you even go into it, we was doing a lot of promoting

for Katy Taylor and Amanda Serrano. We was doing a lot of promoting for Edgar Balanga and my other guy from Over the Water. Now, there'd be no fourth and fifth Serrano and Taylor. There won't be another. The trilogy's over, my brother. Yeah, it is. It's sad because I can't make sense of it

because the first and second, they went toe-to-toe, three minutes a round for 12 rounds. They kept going blow for blow fights of the year, and I felt like it was air punching. Like I could not believe and what's crazy is sometimes you got to build your audience because Serena has been such a great champion over the years. And that Ireland and the Puerto Rican, that shit, that stadium.

Madison Square Garden felt like I haven't felt like that as a Puerto Rican. It's just twin of that. It was like it was on in there. It was people fighting each other. It was crazy in there. And, you know, she didn't she didn't come to fight the way she normally does man and and I think that hurt her very much because it's so hard to get the people behind you that way it was magical I'm sitting there Lewis Guzman is there the girl Gina from Disney the movies it's Kevin Hart by

the way Kevin Hart said the podcast's feeding phenomenal. He ain't know we was funny. I said, I ain't know we was funny either. And he's like, yo, y'all big funny. Shout out to Kevin Hart, Balanga. Heard me back, cause we lost Amanda Serrano. Shout out to Katie Teller. But the next day I'm thinking redemption. You know, Puerto Rican's gonna win something.

So I go out there, you know, I'm looking fly. I got that sky blue Louis shit on, see a sucker. You know, diamonds is out. Got Remy with me, the family. And another thing, I'll go into his room before he fights. And his wife is like, Melonga's wife is like, who knew? I said like what? She was like, that you guys were so funny,

your podcasts, every, I don't know, have you been getting that experience? A lot of love, airports, diners, malls, Louis store, a lot of love. It's crazy, man. The other day a FedEx truck pulled up on me and was like, yo, I'm watching you now. I don't know, shout out to the truckers.

My man Rhino BX, the Fendi legend. They must listen. Yeah, they listen to the truckers. That's the audio check. That's how it go, James. They look at the episode of the trucker. Some people watching, some listen, yeah, crack. Some people watching, some people listening.

Some people listening just laughing and shit. Like, yo, these guys are crazy, cause we all crazy. But, Belanga, man, man, he took that L, man, my little brother. You know, this ain't just, you know, I love him to death, he's family. So it touched me in a different way to see him go down. Shout out to Hamza, everybody who threw the event. They took care of us,

the Turk, you know what I mean? Turkey, Fasady Eridya, Salam Aleykum my brothers. But man, that was hard. That was hard. And you know, they put him through concussion protocol because he was getting hit hard. So he's in this room for like an hour and they check in them and then they had forced them to the hospital Like it was just it was just it was just wild for me. What I didn't like Was how the crowd turned on him. He come out he New York's on I see a million Puerto Rican flags People sing and lean back. We walking them into the ring and the next thing, you know and lean back, we walking him into the ring. And the next thing you know, what was it? The fourth or fifth round, as soon as he get dropped,

I seen the same people cheering for him, screaming and laughing and clapping. And you know, I'm old, so I've been through this before personally, but I know him, I don't know where he's at mentally to see the fans that were acting like they were cheering from him. And now the difference is they got you on social media, twisted every way, you falling down.

You know, the thing is to sell a fight. You know, even in verses. Jauru, one of my best friends, but when I was doing the verses, I'm hyping it up, throwing videos just to get the crowd in there. So he's hyping that shit up dissing Delahoyah with the wig, with the panties. You know, he's trying to hype up the fight. But you know, that happened to me one time, you know, when we used to coach at the Rucker, when I used to coach, shout out Kareem Reed, Mousie and everybody, I had one like, I think five chips in a row before Jay-Z came.

And the culture, the, the, the Ruck is a prestigious place, but the EBC at that time, it was crickets. So I'm coming there, I'm bringing AI, I'm bringing Stephon. I mean, one game I had the whole Easton Conference All-Stars out there. Like I was dumbing out so much, they brought Kobe because I was dumbing. They brought, right? I was there for Kobe. I bring the tournament back, right? To where, you know, everybody want to play. Everybody bring an NBA players is off the chain. And then Jay-Z throws the team in there. Hov. He walking in with Beyonce and nah, it's a big movie. Whoever you name is walking in with him,

but it's my park. Like I won five chips and I own this shit. You understand what I'm saying? And so I should be the favorite and everybody was up in there, uptown, they throw the X. When I walked into that game, the blackout, the whole crowd that goes X, do this up. Five years of blood, sweat and tears making this tournament what it was again.

Restoring the faith, the nostalgia in there. I walk in there. I don't know if only their fans got in. I like to think those was the same guys who used to throw the X up. We gotta get OG One in here to talk about that. I'm telling you, they all did that. Somebody here, OG One, let them know we talking some shit right now.

But when they did that, that shit was like an invisible spear in my heart. I was like, yo, you know what try type of work I put in now. I was taking summers off. What stops number one in the country? They try to pay me 150,000 to show 200,000. I'm taking the whole shit off just to coach these guys when this I'm out there. Uh, that hurt.

That was close. I'm sure the Belonga ship was on another level But that was that's how I felt that day when I was like damn I thought these people were with me and he turned on me like that and uh, I guess that's part of sports You know, I've seen some of my friends. I get really mad Rich gets really mad So when we see our friends, you know, obviously So when we see our friends, you know, obviously, your fat Joe loved that young kid Belonga. You know it though, right? No doubt.

So I feel like all my friends know it. So if I'm looking at people trash talking to him on the comments and people that are family, that stand with us are laughing and liking it and my man's wives and them, I'm almost like, this is like what Trump won. I almost ain't talked to half the people I knew there was going for Trump. So it was like yo I'm over here when he loses they clowning them and

People I know who know I love him are in the comments laughing It's a y'all he had to learn this lesson this age. I mean, it's tough. It was tough for me. I'm sure it's tougher for him. Hope he's safe and healthy and get back and back to training and get back on his feet. And what you gotta understand, right, it's easy to comment about people. It's easy to have an opinion about somebody. But you know what I see as a kid from the projects

in Brooklyn in the Lower East Side who found a way to make over $20 million at a young age. If I was him, I'd go buy me 10 Wing Stops right now. You understand what I'm saying? And so when I see a kid come from nothing, this is why I big up like a Cardi B. I know how hard it is for a guy to make it out the South Bronx, or Remy Ma. You know how hard it is for a woman

to become successful coming out of this shit? And so this is why I always see that in everybody. I don't know if you know, but you know the rapper out of the UK, Skeptapta called out the whole United States. Did you see that? The man, no, no, no, let me talk. I thought he just said something about joining Lucas. No, he said the whole United States fell off.

All the rappers are trash. And Jordan Looker, the only one who stuck his chin out. He the only one who stuck his chin out. Well, he's the only one that said, yo, my man, like, are you serious? Yeah, you had it. You're wack. You're not bringing it no more. This, this, that. And Jonah Luca said that and he talked some shit about him. And Jonah Luca said, you know what? I'm just fall back.

And then they really talk shit about Jonah Luca. I like, yo, he folded. He, you know, you know, they call you to the yard. You got to come out. And so Skepta did a diss record and then Joyner just answered earlier today, which is pretty fire. But, you know, that's round one. Not the whole United. Do you think the whole United States?

I don't know about global. Global? Yeah, that's global. Yeah, but you think the United States fell off rap completely? Hell no. I'm asking a question. You know Drake went up there and co-signed a man

that said the best lyricist is from the UK. That might have threw the extra energy. Sure it did, but that's cool. This is a competitive blood sport. It always been. Just the new evolution of digital technology just makes it a little easier. I do agree that the UK started that drill rap shit.

I do agree. I don't know who started what. And they're making great music. But the whole United States, come on, Kes. Like, you know, you can't. I'm not even commenting on the whole United States. What is that? Oh.

Yo, let me tell you something, man. I came with this bar. It's sad. They sent me to the wolves man. I came with this bar. It's sad. They sent me to the wolves and I came back with a fur. It sound like something out of the Bible. The new Bible. They sent me to the wolves and I came back with a fur. And that's what it's like being from any inner city,

being from nothing. You know, I try to tell people, if you can look at your family's DNA, your ancestors, what they went through, how poor they was, how fucked up they are, and you're the first in a generation of hundreds of DNA lines to become successful. hundreds of DNA lines to become successful,

take care of your family, send your kids to college. That means you're an exceptional guy, man. And so that's how I look at all of you from everybody who overcame all the odds. Pretty much good way to look at it, you know what I mean? If you're not letting the devil occupy you at time and you're doing something useful, to bring change to your family finances is always a good thing,

because it's hard, like you said. Bad Bunny. The man started a residency in Puerto Rico. The brawn went out there, Draymond Green, he sold out I think 60 concerts in a row, stadium to Trello Seaham, and he's generating over $200 million for Puerto Rico and everybody flying,

I'm flying in, me and Norrie flying in with our families and we gonna go party with Bad Bunny and all that. How ill is that that he took power into his own hands? He refused to talk. He's not gonna talk nowhere. United States anyway. You gotta go there, book tickets, book hotels, eat at the restaurants, feed the people. That's some pretty ill shit. What you think about that? I think that's awesome.

You need more shit like that in the culture, in hip hop. You know what I mean? That was a good thing for him to do, a very honorable thing to do for PR, Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico. It's crazy because I go to the fight back to the Balanga, right? And you know, I was like this, I was a big boy,

I was 4'80, so we sit in the front row, my wife, my daughter, Remy, and we sitting next to my brother, Gorilla Mems. Bing Bomb, one of the best guys in the world. and we sitting next to my brother Gorilla Mems. Bing Bomb, one of the best guys in the world. The band sitting, damn man, they was calling him Seat in a Half, because he was taking up a seat in a half. And so-

Who called him Seat in a Half? Y'all, y'all. They was calling him Seat in a Half. I ain't gonna, you know if this was the mafia, Chris, he'd be them seat in the half. Because you take up seat in the half, right? So my daughter's sitting there. Yo my daughter's sitting next to him.

She's in the fucking pretzel. So she's squatting this hot out there. You remember Azzy with the half a seat? Azzy had the half a seat. So she's like, somehow we finessed the seat next to Remy. She sat there and my wife turns around and tells them, which player's coming to sit here next to you? He said, oh no, which player?

He too big to sit here. He can't come up here. And I said, that's like the kettle calling the pot black or something. I said, this motherfucker. So I ain't gonna lie, my wife had some jokes. So I was like, yo, bro, you fell in love with a big boy, man. No disrespect to God. The God was over there.

Shout out to Paul, Eminem's manager. And fucking Rosenberg and fucking Rob Reif, Tullo was in the building. Yeah, seat and a half. Yo, Nems, he loves the show. Not after he called him Seaton to Half. I don't give a fuck. You got to understand the whole shit is, even if I'm making jokes about you, if I'm saying SNS with the muster shirt, he getting bookings.

He called me and said, thank you, Joe. My bookings are going up. We had this shit moving out here right now. Collab on them with the shirt with the mustard on it. No, that, no, he has the shirts. When I tell you, who's your favorite DJs of all time? No, no, I ain't doing that. I'm just saying, that'd be like around like three DJs.

I'll tell you, mine's a twist of a finger. Yeah, my shit really quick. Let me hear it. I'll let you go first. It's not even a competition. Pride comes before the fall, but let me say something, right? I'm Kid Capri.

Still, go ahead. What do you want me to do, SNS? I'm gonna say 4 Master Flex. Just on that radio space. You only doing three, right? You only doing three? Three. Nah, I gotta throw Ted Smoove somewhere in there. All right, four.

It's an honorable mention. I feel, all right, who else? No, no, you go. Only four? Three with an honorable mention? I got four. I would do. It's three with an No, no, you go. Only four? Three with an honorable mention? I would do. It's three with an honorable? Why do you always change the rules, man?

It's three with an honorable mention. So my honorable mention is Ted Smoove. That's cool, I like those, that's very beautiful. Khaled too rich to put him in the DJ. Man, you just throwing more tights. No, no, I'm just saying he too rich. Khaled too rich to put him in the DJ. He just gonna keep going up this hill. No, no, I'm just saying he too rich. Calla too rich. He's just going to keep going up this.

No, no, no. I. D nice. Recipes clock kit. I mean, I'm throwing my DJ tech in there. Then I'm coming back. DJ Jazzy Jeff. Oh, my God. I only said four. I said three in the honorable.

Yeah I did three, I only did what I did. No you went to Jazzy Joplin and four. It may get that, I ain't got no honorable. I ain't even got a lot of you. I just named you four for right there. I love all the guys you said. I love all the guys you said. And there's so many DJs that we coulda mentioned, you know what I'm saying?

Bismarck, E, Rest In Peace. Bismar what I'm saying? Biz Mark, E-Rest In Peace. Biz Mark used to rock it, right? Q-Tip, Vashti. See, I start naming shit to him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't even with them. With that hat. What's that hat?

It's Cassidy. Cassidy. A man Cassidy. A man Cassidy. Cassidy's different. He's a man Cassidy with that hat. He's an eclectic chase, you know? I mean, he's a big Cassidy with that. He's an eclectic taste, you know? I mean, he's one of the biggest ever. You know, one of the things the clip said on that album is, we create content, we not content creators.

And so the mind of somebody being creative, you know, thinking that we thought of Joe and Jada, who thought of this combination and it'll work the way it is because it feels like yin and yang or the odd couples. You know what I'm saying? I say some crazy shit and you thinking like normal people think he's saying some crazy shit, right? But the magic of creating something, music, anything, you know, the juice. Who came up with the concept to have the juice bars? Out of us is S.P. Styles. Styles is first to even, you know, make that a thing. Shout out to my brothers, Nye and Leo. But P was the first one to get us on the health kick.

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you want. I think we have some. Let's get into this. Yo, what's good? This is BG from Virginia, man. Represent that hip hop and the Jarvis urban culture. I just want to salute you is BG from Virginia, man. Representing that hip hop in the jar, preserving the culture. I just want to salute y'all for doing just that, man. Salute to Jada and Joe for preserving the culture, man.

This hip hop thing 50 years and going. And that's it, man. That's all. Salute to y'all. Keep it going. Keep up the great work. Peace and love from VA. Hip hop in the jar, preserving the culture.

Peace. Hip hop in the jar, preserving the culture. Big. Hip Hop in the Jaw, preserving the culture, big shout out and love to V.A., you know what I mean? I'm in love, my brother, we appreciate you. And you're gonna get a lot of them kind of calls, so that was, we appreciate that. Yo, Jada, in the one-take cypher Red Bull freestyle, what's that hoodie you're wearing, that pink one?

The dude's on it, that shit's fly as fuck, I need to know where to cop that. I got that from downtown from this. Shout out to Millie's. Millie's plugged me with his man Danny. And it's a new store downtown that I get all the info. I'll get it to you, my brother. You can actually have the hoodie that I had on.

I can't wear it again, too. You can actually have the hoodie that I had on. I can't wear it again, so you can actually get that actual one I wore. Just DM me or do something, you know what I mean? Hit us up somehow on the show, and I'll give you the actual hoodie from the Red Bull. You're gonna have 5,000 guys hitting you up. I only got one of the hoodies, so it's only one. Yeah, but I mean, forget about it.

We got his name and all that. Yeah, we got his name, I got you. He gonna get that. Next question, Joe and Jada. Hey, Joe and Jada, what's good, man? This is David, originally from Queens, New York, but I live in Houston now. Been listening to you guys since I was about 13,

14 years old, so it's amazing to see you guys together. That's so entertaining. The one question I ask is, has there ever been an artist or artists that you guys ever want to collaborate with, but just never had the opportunity to? And if you're putting like, what was the reason, or is it just because they might have passed away

or whatever like that? What's the one dream collaboration you guys ever wanted to do? Andre Three Stacks and Stevie Wonder for me. I said Dr. Dre, but he took it a little different because he said people ain't here no more. If I could ever get just some Luthor, some MJ. Hee hee in the big well.

MJ Adlips. Just some ee-hee-hee. You know, that's the ultimate collab for me. Next question. Yo, Jada Joe. Good looking on the podcast. Y'all doing great. Real quick question though. Top five beats y'all ever hopped on? Or top ten beats y'all ever hopped on? Or top ten beats of all time? I'd rather hear y'all top ten. I might get exposed to some new shit. But yeah, good looking and keep it up guys. One. Good looking. Whatever that was, we gonna save that one

and talk about it on the, we gotta think about it and then we gonna use it for one of your damn things you like to do, but we're not gonna do 10, we gonna do five. Okay. That you rapped on, or that you rapp gonna do 10, we're gonna do five. Okay. That you rapped on, or that you rapped on and that I rapped on. Nail, nail, nail, nail, ah-ha, my shit, bring it on.

I think the Alchemist did that. Boom, bam, ba-nail, then my lifestyle, Buckwild, right? And Definition of a Dawn, that's the alchemist again. Primo, thank God for that white. And it's always, for me, you know, my favorite song I ever did in my life is the collaboration with Pun Deep Cover. You know what I'm saying?

So those are my favorite five beats I ever rapped to. I thought he was gonna keep going like he usually do. No. Oh, shit. See, this ain't really bad. This ain't really hard because I don't got a thing I can just say anything I want. All For The Love, which is Swizz. Wow. All For The Love is Swizz's first placement.

And before it stopped, dropped. People don't know that. Swiss's first placement in before Stop Drop. People don't know that. First Lock's album, my solo song, All For the Love, that's Swiss Beats first beat in the world. That got placed on our first place. Bam. We're going to make it Alchemist. I mean, I'm a missed it. We're going to make it. Benjamin's D dot Derrick Angeletti.

I mean, why? Shout out to my man Havoc for my dick. I mean. Havoc did why? Yeah, recognized Primo. I love you. Next question, please, MOP staff. Hey, hey, Joe and Jada, legends, legends.

My question is, my name is Joe, by the way, from Fitchburg, Massachusetts. I didn't even know they had a Fitchburg. How'd you guys develop such longevity in the game to where you guys came out in the 90s and still now everybody wants to hear what you guys have to say, everybody wants to dress how you guys dress, everybody wants to live the lifestyle of you guys, everybody still wants to hear the music you guys drop. How did you guys just have that kind of longevity in this culture that's so different right now? Like you see how the music and how everybody, you know, what they want out of life is just so

different than we had. What kind of words can you give the guys that are in their 30s and their 40s right now just to keep that level of cool with the culture right now. Good luck. Yeah, a lot. Got a lot to say, huh? I say the longevity thing is embracing the new stuff that comes out without compromising what you stand for and what you represent.

Being able to be talked to, being approachable, being able to reach the people, and all the other shit is him. Well, you just gotta believe in yourself. You know what I'm saying? At all times, as an artist, as a man, or a female, as a person. Self-confidence.

You gotta have that self-confidence and believe in yourself. You know how many times they counted me out? And you know, I got stories like, I got jerked from my publishing for like 12 to 15 years of my career. And so I was hearing about everybody getting these publishing deals.

And then for millions of dollars, Ludacris came, he was like, yo, I got this publishing deal for millions. I was hearing to all the rappers. So when I finally got my publishing back, I go around to all the Warner Brothers, everywhere that was at Warner chapel and this. And they were like looking at me like, you know, listening to me and they were like, yeah, all right.

And they was offering me shit like $200,000 deals and all that. And I went, now I remember I went in my car, and my lawyer at the time, he came to the car, I was like, yo, I thought they was giving people millions. He was like, yo, Joe, you're not hot right now. I was like, you know, I mean, I guess that's part of the narcissism or the delusion. When he said that, the next day I had drove down to Miami

to meet with Scott Storch and we made Lean Back. I came back to New York maybe a month later with Lean Back fully done and went back to the same people. They wasn't trying to leave me, let me go out to office. They was offering me M's like crazy, cause they knew it and I was showing them the dance, Lean Back. They were like, oh no, don't leave. Hold up, we got some M's like crazy because they knew it and I was showing them the dance, lean back. They were like, oh no, don't leave.

Hold up, we got some M's for you. We got some this and this and that. So at the end of the day, the only way to make you believe in us is we got to believe in ourselves. Next question, please. Yo kids, yo Joe, what's going on? Dre from Mass. Joe, I. Yo, Joe. What's going on? Dre from Mass. Joe, I had a quick question.

What was it like to see Jada on stage with Dipset versus Deluxe? When he put on that freestyle and he said, this is what I do, what was going through your brain and what did you think of Jada after that? I love the show. Y'all keep going. Massachusetts, stand up. We love y'all. Peace. And thanks for the question.

Is that before COVID or after? Did you know you caught COVID in there? No, I did catch COVID in there. In there, yeah. After for the first time. That's damn. But the craziest shit is. He sacrificed his life.

He came to check me out. Nah, I was torn right Right. Between both of you. I thought y'all were going to win, but they've said ain't nothing to smile at. You know what I mean? So I think they could have did a lot better if they would have sequenced it. Right. Um, but I was in there and I didn't want to see you see me cheering for them. I didn't want them to see me cheering for them. I didn't want them to see me cheering for you. I was in a fucked up position, right?

So I'm sitting there like that. I'm like, what you said, Jaina? Shoulda wore a wig. Shoulda wore a wig, I shoulda. Came up in the sky. I had the little thing and then they threw on the welcome to New York City. They threw on the home of 9-11.

And I'm not gonna lie to you, that fucked me up. I forgot all about New York. I was like, oh my God, they doing this? And then when y'all dropped that, boom, boom, boom, boom. I couldn't even hide. My colors, I was like, yo, you see that video when you talking all that shit, then the camera goes to me and I'm like, oh, like I did.

At that point, if it wasn't Dipset, I definitely would've jumped up on that ring and tried to do New York with you right there at that versus. The shit was crazy because I'm not going to diss my guys too. But that's one of the most epic 20th century hip hop moments. We heard the shit back in the day like Kumo D, Busy B. We heard of Karras, One Thorn,

P.M., Dawn off the stage. We heard of these legendary times. But in our generation, that right there was uh, it was just incredible. It was like the Beatles coming to America. Some wild shit like that. Because you know you see the Beatles come to America, you see them girls at the fucking airport by the millions like they couldn't believe they was coming. That's how it felt that night. It felt like it was some shit. We had never witnessed before.

You know, Michael Buffer came out. In this corner from Harlem, New York. That shit was crazy, yo. That whole night was just perfection. It was just perfection. It was a win for hip hop. Next question, please. Hey, this is Nate.

Joe and Jada, you guys are legends in hip hop. I have individual playlists of both of you guys. And I really appreciate your contribution to hip hop. With that stated, is there a feature on an artist's song that was supremely impactful in your lives? Also, is there a feature from an artist that you wanted to get but never had the chance to get? A feature that impacted my life a lot was AZ on Nas' Illmatic.

I never heard nobody flow like that so smoothly. Changed our life. And I've always wanted, you know, he's happy with his career and everything, but I always wanted, I really thought AZ was gonna be like, but Nas and Jay-Z, you know, on that super level. But if we talking features, oh, that's the one that stands out the most to me.

If I could pick two, all right. I'm not gonna pick two. Me had to be Nas live at the barbecue. That fucked us up when we heard that. It was like it was incredibly incredible for some young, the whole song was incredible, but Nas' verse was just crazy for me. For me.

For me. At the age of 12, I went to hell for stuff with Jesus. We didn't even hear shit like that. Nobody say nothing even remotely close to him. That shit was like, hello? That shit was like somebody's coming. There you go, we got Nas in both those. It was crazy. Next question, please.

I got a two-parted question for both. Two-parted. Next four questions. So I was listening to 40 Bars of Terror where Jada rapped over the Yeah, Yeah, Yeah beat on the Lean Back, on the Terror Squad album. So I wanted to know, Jada, how you get into that mindset to hit those bars with such surgical

precision. And then the second question is, what was Joe's reaction when he heard those bars? Did you ever think about making an official remix or was that dad? Did you hear the bars? Like, nah, I'm not putting him on my record because he body my shit. So yeah, that's what I would like to know. For me that song was, anytime I do a freestyle is paying homage to the original song because you like it that much. But that 40 bars of terror, yeah the beat I couldn't wait to use that beat. I was doing the Champions Air part one.

So I was doing the whole mixtape and that was definitely after they dropped that song. I'm like, I need that. That's definitely going to be one of the instrumentals I use. So yeah, that was for me is always homage anytime you hear me doing any bars on somebody's beat is because you like the original beat. Especially when you do 40 bars or more, you really love the beat. You know what I mean?

40 bars. I don't know, man. I just, you know, I love JDKiss every time he raps. I think he's one of the few, I ain't trying to gas this dude out. He don't need it right now. But you know, every time he raps, I feel like he's one of the, man,

he's one of the very, very, very, very, very few MCs that I think he killed every verse you ever did. So it's like, you know, I give that to Big too, somebody like Jay-Z, you know, I give that to Big 2, somebody like Jay Z. You know, you know, it's very rare that a rapper kill every verse I ever heard. So you got to always salute Jada for that. Appreciate that. Next question, please. Joe and Jada, what's up? This is Riverside Slim.

I can't even not speak high-pitched. Riverside Slim, we from Godfather Hall. I can't even not speak high-pitched. I can't even not speak high-pitched. I can't even not speak high-pitched. I can't even not speak high-pitched. I can't even not speak high-pitched. I can't even not speak high-pitched. I can't even not speak high-pitched.

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But how many features have you been on? Jadakiss, you ever did the numbers? They ain't gonna do the analytics on me till I'm dead. Crap. Then they're going to start finding all kind of incredible new shit that I did that they could've told me when I was alive. When he say something you wish he was on that you-

Yeah, so, shit. I go from in the club, lean back, all the way up. I actually did a remix of that, me and Fab. Any song that's a hit, you wish you was a part of. Any song that make you wanna be on it, that's how you know it's a hit. For me, it's everything that, everything. Bunch of Drake songs, bunch of Rick Ross shit, Kanye,

all of those shits that come out, you're like, damn, why the fuck they call me? You know, the one song I hear all the time that I be like, damn damn I could have been on I bought you know I should have been on that was uh was the French song pop that? Oh yeah damn you missed it. I missed it. That song right there every time I hear it I'm like man I wish I was on that fucking

song. You know it's just that energy that comes on whenever I work out in the gym, I work out. That's a good song. That, I mean, if I gotta try working out, that's a good song. Oh no, no, that's hype mania. That right there, that should've get you hyped.

Bowin', bowin'. Like in New England. New England. Like a flavor, new whiskey. Sheesh. You know, something that came across my desk, somebody was talking, it was like, you know, that young kids, you know, we have a real weird space in hip hop

because like young kids, they ain't trying to spit. You know, when we was out there starving, we was busting our bubble to come up with some shit. Nowadays these kids. Sound effects. And it's over before it starts because these guys find a way to either get killed or kill somebody before they even really,

really blow up like that. And so you see kids nowadays saying they don't even want to rap. They rather be streamers because they watching guys like cost not aiding and them dudes going to the bank. So kids now it's almost like we have a lack of talent. No offense to anybody doing they thing, but we have a lack of talent because kids want to anybody doing they thing, but we have a lack of talent because kids wanna go another way for the first time, instead of just saying, I wanna be a rapper, they say, I wanna be a streamer

and it's less dangerous. They getting up there, they joking, they making money, they having fun, they dancing and they're not dying. What do you think about that? I'm always put the music first, but you you write about that is becoming a very dangerous game in a dangerous space and they drill in and spin in and slide in and doing all of them shits and decreasing the population. So probably make some of the younger kids don't want to do it.

It's also making some of the younger kids want to do it. So you got to keep an eye on on that part of it. But, you know, streaming is dope. But I love streaming. I love I put music first because I'm an artist and I want to see more music. I want to see more artists. I want to see more rapping. So I mean, more substance.

But as long as they can stay out of trouble, make money, do whatever they do, that's always a beautiful thing. Well, it seems like all the time my friends who are my age or a little bit younger, get back in the gym and start working out crazy. They lifting up the whole gym and they tear their shoulder. They always get hurt, these guys.

Liftin' too heavy. You ever notice a guy, yo, but I mean like every guy I know that starts working out, they hurt themselves. They always, yo, how's the gym? Oh, Torr-O-Mai, yo. Did this, what the fuck are y'all doing in there? Me, I'd rather just take old Zempik and take one. And with that, but you said, ladies and gentlemen, this is the Joe and Jada show.

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