Joe and Jada - Fat Joe & Jadakiss talk Clipse's Grammy noms, NO HIP HOP in Top 40, Michael Jackson movie & Max B

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

Fat Joe and Jadakiss are back and they're reacting to Clipse scoring five Grammy nominations, no hip hop appearing in Billboard's Top 40 for the first time in decades after "Luther" by Kendrick Lamar and SZA finally dropped out, Antoine Fuqua (director of 'Training Day' with Denzel Washington) directing a Michael Jackson biopic, and Josh Giddey of the Chicago Bulls getting his ankles broken by DeAndre Hunter of the Cleveland Cavaliers. Joe and Jada are also joined in the back half of the pod by Eric and Jeff from ItsTheReal and the '2J3BD' podcast with Jada, Styles P, and Sheek Louch. Eric and Jeff talk about Fat Joe being the interview they've always wanted, Zohran Mamdani winning the New York City mayoral election, and Max B finally being freed from jail and appearing on the field at a New York Jets game. 5:00 - No hip hop in the Billboard Top 40 for the first time in 35 years 7:45 - Michael Jackson biopic 15:15 - Joe & Jada's problems with the Grammys 26:15 - Sneakers of the year 34:00 - Josh Giddey getting his ankles broken 38:30 - Joe and Jada giving back for Thanksgiving 42:30 - Eric & Jeff of ItsTheReal crash the pod 48:15 - More of Joe's legendary jail stories 56:45 - How ItsTheReal linked with The Lox 1:03:30 - Zohran Mamdani winning mayoral election 1:14:30 - Brian Daboll fired [Timestamps may vary due to advertisements.] Joe and Jada now on Patreon All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yes, maybe so. Yo, give them the handheld mic. These motherfuckers come take over the shit. Yeah, yeah, what up, y'all? This is Joe Crack the Dawn. You know who it is, your boy Jada? You know what it is, the Joe and Jada show. Fucking right.

Every show legendary, every show iconic. Stepping on niggas next. So, you know, we got mad requests. Everybody, like, I'd never seen people get mad because we're getting the best guests in the world. every day somebody legendary just pull up to the show. They've been begging us. Like, yo, when we're going to get a Joe and Jada?

Just to, I'm like, y'all, this shit, you know, it must be horrible to be the competition beat. Because, like, niggas is pulling up on this shit so crazy. It's like, you know, every day we can't stop. I got to tell people I can't do it. I actually have to tell certain artists, they hit me up and be like, yo, we just can't do it. Jada's on a cruise, I'm over here, like we, I'm sorry.

Big people. I mean, this shit got motherfucker dizzy. You know what I'm saying? I know it. I know it. And we ain't stopped throwing that shit on. That niggas flabby and shit right now, you know what I'm saying? Hip hop is here.

Hip hop is here. The buck stops here. Nowhere else, I know I've been calling us the rookies of the year. It's starting to look like, rookie of the year, MVP's biggest show on earth. I said. I'm being honest with you. I'm as humble as I can keep it. This is the biggest show in the game. Oh, you, I think I ain't being humble.

I'm being very humble. I can be disrespectful. I think you are. Nah. I think that was very disrespectful. You know, hip-hop is competition. I could always make a meme out of you at the verses when you like, yo, I'm from me.

Like, that's how I came in the game. thinking it's competition, even though we got love for people. We got love for everybody. We want everybody to win. We want everybody get the bag. But there ain't nobody bigger than us. That's what we do, baby.

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Hard rock. They used to spread, everybody. And so, hip hop. It's been 35 years. This is the first time being the top 10 record or top 40 in the hip hop in Billboard. That's sad.

Okay, break it down. Break down, why you think it's sad? I mean, whenever something is running for so long and then it's dramatically just not there, that's sad. We've got to look at that. What I mean is we're losing control. We're losing the grip of the culture.

You're supposed to stay on there forever. They use hip-hop for everything. Every commercial, every fucking marketing tool, to sell everything. Let me tell you some, the other day, I was telling you, like when I listen to country, I listen to other forms of music,

there's always hip-hop influenced. The other day, I just realized the number one producer of K-pop is a dude from fucking Compton. Hip-hop dude from comp. It's always our source. It goes to every other genre

or whatever the case may be. Country music, same shit. They use in our pen. The flip side is is the art more important. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like we've been getting great hip-hop lately, whether it's the Mar-Dieb album or the Clips,

or just because they ain't charting, Cardi B's album was crazy. So just because they ain't charting on the top 40 billboard doesn't mean the art, you know, people ain't create music. I'm happy with hip-hop this shit. Shout out the clips, man, five Grammy nominations. I mean, that means something. So somewhere somebody, something named,

math. Yeah, it's the art. Everybody just said, fuck the billboard, fuck the heads, fuck that, let's make dope music and the people are saying

I love it. You know what I'm saying? The critics, whatever, saying, I love it. And so, you know, when they eliminated Drake off the charts,

you know, they went on that full court press. I think they eliminate him. I think he just chilled. I think he's going to come back. I think he's going to come back and massive destructive Did you takeover?

No, I agree one billion percent. But what I'm saying for right now, you know, you realize that Drake was probably keeping us in that top 40 for fucking five, 10 years. Like every record he made was going number one. So it's like any records he made was going number one. I think he battled in Michael Jackson for the most number ones. So he was on that, he was on that chart. You know they making a Michael Jackson movie? you heard about that

the guy who made training date Frucon what's his name Antoine Fuqua Antoine Fuqua You know I'm fried nigga like yeah come on your kiss

You know I don't get shit right But you know My heart's in the right place You know You know Oh shit What you think That Netflix's gonna be like

What was the casting We gotta see what's going on and the casting. Who are they going to cast? Who's going to be Mike? His nephew's going to be the star, Michael Jackson's nephew? Is he going to be a Crip or no? Or after the surgery, because I met a kid named,

he said he was Michael Jackson's son, but he looked like Michael Jackson after the surgery. Yo, yo, yo! Yo! I met a dude. There's a dude running around New York. I swear to God, he looked like Michael Jackson. They say Michael Jackson's sons in New York.

But he looked at, I'm telling you, I met the guy. He looked like Michael Jackson after the surgeries. He don't look like original Michael. You know what I'm saying? So his nephew, he looked like what? He's in the family. They got him like, you know, anything Michael Jackson, I'm pulling up to the movie theater.

I don't give a fuck. But I also think that this is going to be a lot of truth-telling in this Michael Jackson biopic. you know, we see what's going on now. So what's going on now in life, we finally caught up to it. We finally like, oh, shit, that's what they're doing. Like smear campaigns and having been, you know,

starting rumors about certain people. A. Yeah, but AIS now, what I'm saying is a lot of the shit they did to Michael with AI. A lot of this shit they did to Michael Jackson was ahead of the time and we couldn't see. Because the media was way more control. It wasn't no phones.

So they were saying whatever they want on the tabloid. Who was the leader? Whoever had that tabloid on lock was controlling the narrative. If you had beef for somebody strong enough that had the plug to the Rupert Murdoch's in them, you're fried. They could say anything they want about you in them tabloids. They have people looking at you crazy.

You go to the supermarket and you buy the magazine. That's how you know. So if MJ had beef with anybody Because he was very, very powerful They was controlling that narrative In the fucking Magazines Those inquirers and all of them shits

It's bullshit But at the time people took it serious When I'm trying to tell you At the time People took a sit Like right now I feel like social media Fucked up love Like definitely if you younger

If you ain't been with your wife A long time And she got to States out of IG. Because IG, we all addicted to the shit. Well, fucking Michael Jordan started crying. Michael Jordan is that, listen, I know Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan, the last guy you would think is on IG.

When he was at the Kobe funeral and he was crying, they said, yeah, they're going to make a meme mad of me. Don't tell me he don't know what IG is. He knew the time, quick. When he was crying at Kobe funeral, he said himself, oh, they're going to make a meme. out of this. Jerry West laughed when he said that. Like, the people we think

ain't on Instagram is on Instagram. Right? So, everybody's watching social media. Social media, how are you in love? You take one wrong pick. The pressure or force your relationship to break up off the wrong pick.

You ain't even got an opportunity to fix it. Especially these young kids, it's like social media. Fucked up love what happened to love know what I'm saying and then relationships are supposed to go up and down you're supposed to deal with it

it ain't always perfect but with all that pressure to me you be on that shade room with the shit between the line like this who with the line? Yeah with the line shit over you can't even make the choice they'll make it for you they'll be like hey

it's time to go the shit crazy so what I'm trying to tell you that right now, the phone is different. We get to see more aspects. That's why people can't sweep shit under the rug. But back in the day, in the MJ era, they could control the media.

I promise you, this movie's getting, I don't know. My prediction is it's going to deal with, you know, behind the scenes of like shit they was doing to him to make people look sideways at MJ. I'm sure if Homeboy from the Training Day does that, It's going to be a lot of exposing the clips. Let's go back to the clips in the Grammys. What do we don't?

Now, we're just talking, we're shooting this shit, huh? We're just the movie Jumpers. But let me ask you something. You want to say something to be half of that? The MJ? I hope it's a great film. I know it would be with Antoine McGuart at the helm of it. Hopefully it would be a great film,

and we get to see some stuff we never knew about. depth. Yeah. I want to see some stuff because every time I see like a fake little Michael Jackson movie, it would always be like the same shit. It don't be, you know, the guy,

you've seen the last one, they had like a real cheap one, the security did. Now they had like a low budget Michael Jackson movie on one of these shits where... Not to be. Not to be, but a little above that. Where the security was

telling the inside of story, he was saying that Michael Jackson never paid them. Like he was broke when we thought he was the richest, but he always had that shit. He ain't want to sell. So they would always come to him and be like, anytime, you know, these guy, Y, MJ was rich.

MJ was rich for so long. I think it was walking in stores buying $10 million worth of shit. Like, it was a pack of bubblegump. And one day they told him, yo, you ain't got it like that. But they kept telling them, you know, MJ, oh, you got to do everybody his family security everybody kept saying yo get rid of the catalog and you'll have a billion dollars right now so even though he was going through hard times nothing like what we think but it was hard times he always knew he had a billion dollars he always knew like at any

point he could just sell the key to a billion dollars and everybody that was everybody's conversation around M.J. was like, yo, you can just sell it for a billion dollars. They said he went to some other shit. He wanted to make like Never, Neverland Part 2. And when he went to get the money, they was like, yo, you ain't got it. And even the realtor was selling them. Yo, just sell a catalog by this shit, like nothing. Everybody knew he had that shit. They all knew

like, yeah, he fucked up, but he ain't really fucked up. Yeah, it's almost like when Kanye West went on that tantrum and he was like he a billionaire where even if they fuck all this shit up he still worth 200, 300 million that's a cool spot to be at you know so let's go back to the Grammys right

because the Grammys are full of shit but remember that year Hove had nine nominations that they didn't give them an award you don't remember that shit I was there yeah they'll fuck you man I'll fuck you I think the clips win too

It's the best album of the year as far as I know but they'll fuck you you know the Grammys they do everything you can't believe somebody could do like me

I want a shout out chance to rapper he's been taking a bad rap for me I've been killing them and all my interviews and shit because I didn't think

he deserved to be all the way up I really still don't but I'm just say to him I saw you on your little interview on the podcast and you addressed it the right way

you're correct I should have won many grand I was nominated for like six Grammys at least all the way up and lean back for sure I think I should have won lean back I lost to like I don't know who was it ever essence come on come on let's lean back man you know what I'm saying we lost the Avenisansans you know what I'm saying you see this shit the Grammys they'll do it to you they're like all right everybody think he's supposed to win

give it to the guy we don't know fuck it that's what keeps It's everybody intrigued in the Grammys. Why? Why I was supposed to win the Grammy? Yeah, you go. Who won? Oh, no, DMX beat you. You did?

Yeah. That was that? Yeah, we looked that shit up. It was DMX beat Y, right? Ew, I shouldn't won that. Still in the family. I still should have won that one. Yeah, I other shit that he should have gave.

Obviously, when there's human people, they got people got feelings, and they get all in their feelings, and they do whatever they got to do politically. That's why with this. this podcast shit I've been watching the numbers in the empirical data we're smoking everybody I don't know none of it

I do I don't know where the data is I do I don't know where to look at that's him y'all I do when you talk about the amount of gas how many people tell you how many how many you went to Atlanta

to the ludicrous thing I'm getting the love from the people I got nothing to go with analytics right many artists told you they want to heavy artists in the world. Let me tell you some analytically, with the numbers, we're smoking everybody. Now, if we don't...

I don't know that. Okay, let me explain it. I hope so. I'm just preparing you now. So when the end of the year come, and we know we're beating... Everybody, we smoking everybody's boots, and they fucking rob us

and give it to Josh and Raleigh and Arthur Willingston, nigga. Like, we know what the fuck going on here. He niggas ain't nobody. Everywhere we walk, we walk through the airport. They're like Joe and Jay. If we go anywhere, Joe and Jay to discuss this. You know what I'm saying?

Come at the end of the year. You watch what funny niggas. They're going to come and say we lost to, but that's political. That's no different than the Grammys. They got a team working in their shit. So we already know that's what's going on here. All right.

So that's why I'm sure. There's no difference than the Grammys. That's why we don't get too caught up in these awards because it is what it is. People will be having their own people. and play to make sure they win. Like, you know, I can't look at, I'm sorry, right? I can't look at a chart or podcast and never heard of these guys.

And they're going to be higher than us. You know what I'm saying? Now, I know I'll call me Daddy, the girl. I know Joe Rogan. I know Amy Schumer. I know Joe Button. I know, I mean, you know, I know those guys. when you're going to come up here and put me, you know,

Jonathan and William podcast, very, like, yo, I can't do that. Like, I, I'm sorry. Out of the whips, guys. This is a talk shit show. So I'm going to talk my shit because I'm preparing the people just because they say they're number one. That just means they got friends picking who's number one. They're not really number one.

And now, let me tell you, I judge it, right? If Joe and Jada has two-time felon as a guest, right, he's coming out with an album, we come sit in the couch, he's our guest. We put them on here, we talk, interesting conversation, see me and you, we know different that you kill O'Neill or Chuck. They know we played the game, they know we got their experience, we legends. They want to hear us talk to the clips and all. We're like this, the clips game.

Anybody else who interviewed them is behind us in 300,000 views, 400,000. This is all I'm saying. The same guests is coming here that's going over there. They're getting the 150,000 views. We're in a half a million views. What? With, where? What, no, no, I want to know.

What's a 50-cent spice ham sandwich or what's the shit? Tell me what the fuck. I'm not dumb. If we fucking interviewing the same person and we got them beat by 300,000 bolts, how to fuck day number one? What balance are you looking at? What is he looking at? You better be prepared.

It's all right. Jada don't care. No. Y'all better get him a strong pack of that Zaza. That day, he looked at that shit. You got to smoke something. The shit and Williams beat us. When they come in and got me.

No, I'm going to smoke that shit. Whatever you smoke, I'm smoking that day, nigger, because I'm telling him we're going to be mad. We put in a lot of work. Every day we got the illus. Look, look who's coming tomorrow. Every day, the illest dudes in the world, they find in there to be on this show.

in and out. This is the biggest show in hip hop right now. This is controlling the culture. And when I want to compare notes, my notes is, well, why did John Butler come on our show and we got 800,000 views with him, and

you got 300? I want to know how you better than us. Like, how are you better? Where's your numbers adding up like that? And so I'm looking at all this. If you got a guy, if you got a guy who put out Austin Ridge, they also not. They're also not moving like us, brother.

They're not moving like this. We're shooting three. You know what I'm saying? So we did say somebody does buy a miracle, get more views than us. By the time he drops that one episode, we already dropped three episodes with 300, 400, 200. This is a million views. We got these niggas packed up. I'm not, you can't dizzy me out.

I know what's going on. So at the end of the year, when the awards come out and fucking Jonathan and William wins that we never heard of these niggas. They're not moving nothing. No coaching, no nothing. You know the fix is in. I'm just trying to prepare you guys. For the fix? Oh, no, the fix is it. There's no

way. Me and you, we ain't political. We tell these people, excuse my language. We tell them suck our dick all the time. We're not political. We're not political. I got in trouble, man. I got a friend. I got a friend. I got a friend who's a big time jeweler, right?

And I went on Norrie's watch show and I said, yo, the man told me, yo, once again, I love you and your family, you beautiful people, I got nothing but love and respect for you. Maybe you didn't realize you told me. He told me, like, yo, I said, yo, I want the AP acrylic, this is a show you. You got to come kiss ass a little.

Like, you know, you got to come and kiss ass. I looked at him. You know, Norrie says he calls them on their birthday, the watch guy, Norrie be like, hey, John, happy birthday, buddy. How, Norrie goes there, drinks a coffee with him. He played that game. I can't play that game. I'm buying some shit for $350,000.

Yo, sell me the shit. Like, I'm not kissing your ass and spending the $350,000, beloved. It's just not happening. So he really got a problem with me. All our friends that know us today, like, yo, you broke his heart. I said, first of all, I ain't say his name, but I'm not. breaking his heart. The man looked at me and told me lyrically, with his own lips,

you have to kiss, pause. You have to kiss ass to get the watch. I cannot do that, guys. Not me, not Fat Joe. I'm not doing that, bro. I'm not playing that game. But that's the kind of game. You got to play when you want to be number one on a podcast. They want you to go up to whoever's holier than our than us and have dinner with them and start kissing their ass.

and hey, we really, me and you are not going to do that. Definitely not. Other people are doing that. I watched somebody who really, really, really, really wanted a Grammy. Yo. What you want? Everybody really wanted a Grammy. Not the same way, buddy.

It's not the same way. Okay. If you really want the Grammy, you got to kiss a million babies. You got to show up to every guitar school. There's a whole process for you to win the Grammy. You don't just win the Grammy because why it was number one? You got to go out there and shake hands and kiss people and fly to Memphis to the guitar school to this day.

So much shit you got to do to win a Grammy. They ain't just giving you the Grammy by mistake. Hey, his shit was better than it is. That's not happening. I'm trying to put you on to some shit if you don't know that by now. This whole shit is bullshit. So with that being said, do we think the clips win any of the five? I think they win.

How many of you? What's your prediction? Because you like the bet. They're going to win. All right best. Throw it up. They're nominated for five. They should walk away with at least one or two.

I believe so. And they deserve it. The album was incredible. The album wasn't like they sell a soul. They stood to the clips now. They got Ferrell with it, too. That's what's going to help them.

Farrell know how to play the game. That's my, you know, I'm happy. I don't know to me because I'm happy. I'm all fucking know what they do. I ain't get my jellyfish. I seen you with some jellyfish out of there. You're full of shit. I got them.

You bought them? Yes. I can't lie. They sent me some jellyfish. Yeah, I know. Yeah, you're mad, Jay. Shout out to my family over there. Yeah, yeah.

There's no family that show, you know what I mean? You try to show love. You know, I ain't going to lie to you to. jellyfish is comfortable. I got two pared, but they're supposed to... But they're comfy, though, right? They feel good. The jellyfish was right.

You know, sneak in the year was the brick by brick. Nigel Zabesta. So they stole the pair of no shit. They stole your shit? One pair. I got three pairs sitting there. You know what I'm saying? Now I'm going to keep it a buck with you.

I got three pairs. Nigel, let me get another thing. Yeah, yeah. I got three beds sitting there. The one thing you can't do is match. Did you match it, match it? Hard to. Now, you can't, right?

It got to be all black or something. You can't try to match. You can't just match it. Nothing matches. Damn, nothing matched the brick by brick. Like, I tried. Camel. Camel is your head.

You know who I learned that from? I learned that from years ago. Now everybody knows, years ago it was AI. AI would always show up with some camo shit and some kicks. And I'd be like, damn, it, always go. Like, Camel's like a blank plate. It's like a green screen. It's like a green screen, my nigga.

You rock that camel. You can rock whatever you want on the feet. The camel and whatever you want on the feet, it go. You know what I'm saying? Camel go with everything. I learned that from AI. AI was the first guy I used to see. He used to rock that camel and whatever.

And I was like, damn, that's how you do it. You can get it off of the camel. You're funny, man. That brick brought. Brick, what was one of your favorite kicks this year? The black fives with the white lazy. No, that was, that was mean. That didn't make the top ten, I don't believe.

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drop weekly. Shout out to Kevin Liles. You know, Kevin Lyle's my neighbor, man. Today, he blasted this music so fucking loud every brain sound like Michael Jackson. I FaceTime him. I say, you're okay, what's you playing next door? Because he was blasting that shit

for his backyard. He said, oh, it's my new artist. And he sent the shit hold on, hold on, let me tell you who his new artist is, because I feel like he wanted me to mention this shit on the show. Come on, fucker, was blowing that shit with, that shit was like a park jam. Toxic, long for you, a single

by Justin Lee Schultz. This is mean. This song right here is beyond mean. But, you know, Kevin Lisey working, you know, he didn't wake up yesterday. Let's get to this guy. I don't really like this guy. as a board player.

What's his name? Giddy from Chicago. Josh Giddy. I thought that was Park Talk like, yo, I'm going to break your ankles. I didn't know it was literally, I'm going to break your ankles. Your man from Cleveland,

who's your man from Cleveland? Hunter that came from Atlanta. Bro, not only he crossed, took over, completed the dump, they came and picked the guy up and he literally, crossed him over so bad, he broke his ankles. Like the dude they-

He's raided his ain't. Have you ever seen that? Yeah. I never even seen that in the park. You see it in the pickup game in the park? I see people get hurt off of getting something to happen. Like what? I see the jack, yo.

You see it? What? Crazy shit of all the time. I see somebody hit with a jab step that made them back all way up to the other court down there. And the other nigger didn't even move. Did he hit it? Did he hit the shot after the move?

It was in timeout because nobody, he went all the way down there off and jazzed. Yeah, I was at the Rucker. I've seen this guy, this guy, you know, you know, when you're at the Rucker, the kids who ain't in the NBA, they get their name for playing against the NBA players. If you bust their ass on the court, now you're a legend out there because these guys in the NBA. I watched, Jamal Tinsley. Bring that shit down so fast. And he went like this.

money flew. Money was trying to be aggressive checking him. Money flew like on the bleachers. Like he had to see at the bleachers. He crossed that thing. It's so crazy. Homeboy, flew into this

bleacher seat like this. They just went up in there and laid it up. Like he just stopped. Bang. Money said, flew into the... But this guy, Giddy, Giddy goes on the world world's record right now from getting

crossed over. He's worse than anybody ever into his they get, I'm surprised they don't got them on roller skates, all type of shit, skateboarding waves, he need to be on waving, he needs to be waving like on the, like surfing

on the sub. Oh, and Kenny and then put them up. Then they throw that nigga in the wheelchair with the, with the RV and shit. Like he might, what they did that this man, I never said, and I don't like this guy, because he plays really good against the next.

Chicago got a mean team this year This giddy He don't see the Knicks He'd be killing us So when they did that to him I was so happy I was like yeah I fucking hate this motherfucker

Anyway That's the illness Right there What you're thinking about This basketball season You know we undefeated at home At home We got to play good on the road

Shout out there Ronnie He thought he When I called him About that jacket you had on Ronnie Kiff What you're in the Creme one He told me they was hitting Mike Brinkley.

They was hitting Mike Brinkley, Jr. Don't do that. No, Brink's son worked for the Knicks. So they was hitting the sun. They was hit the son thinking it was Mike Brink. Yeah, you know me apology. Ronnie Giffis the Don Carliani a fast. They hit Brink Jr., man.

Did he give you the jacket? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nah, nothing. Nah, nah, no. I got nothing. Nothing, nothing.

If I don't have you. I didn't hit Brink Jr., though. You know, he got confused on the phone. Look, Ronnie's a stand-up guy. He loves you. Ronnie's a stand-up guy. He loves you. That's my dog.

It's my guy. I believe that I, what's that say less, huh? What's that that say less, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I came in the building. Yeah. The girl, that Dominican girl had that say less. I said, they deliver.

I don't know how we don't got to afford. Sponsored by now. We should have been that. We're supposed to have. Jimmy John. I don't know what's going on. They ain't sponsored me in this. Jimmy John.

We need a hot food sponsor. Say less. They sit, right, right or wrong. Two times. That's say less, huh? No. Man, what's that? They ain't sponsoring us, though.

We need a real deal. He's got sponsored us. Say less. What's going on with Thanksgiving? You know, everybody losing their snacks. EBT, welfare, life. That's messed up, huh? No, super messed up.

Don't give out some fool. You're going to give out some turkeys. Trying to starve them into submission. Let me ask you a question. You throw it out all the time. You partner up with somebody, like you put up half, they put up half. You're partying up with PC and Y. I got to partner up with them again because the guys I normally partner up with, they're not picking up.

They're like, yo, it's bad out there. They ain't got it. They ain't got it. Yo, we got a partner. Yo, I got to call PCNY because, listen, usually what I do is if I put up 50,000, the food sponsor matches it with the 50,000, and we feed thousands of people. This year's crickets, they're not picking up the phone. Nobody who been doing it with me for 10, 12, 15 years, bro.

They're not picking up the phone. Things are doing. And I'm like, yo, but what's up? What happened? I did something wrong. They're like, yo, man. it's bad out here. They can't even give it out.

You know what I'm saying? They're going to force me to... Are you giving it out? Let's get the, you know, let's get the live forces, man. We got, we're doing it. We're doing it big. E.I.G for the people, man. You got to do it big.

I want to shoot an episode when we give it out at the store. We have a couple of our friends come by, some rappers, just talk shit, you know what I'm saying? Talk about how important Thanksgiving. is because, you know, I remember my mom used to have to, you know, borrow sometimes from my family to feed us on Thanksgiving. And right now, it's harder times than ever. It's like fucked up.

You know what I'm saying? It's really fucked up out here in the streets. I watched this girl on social media or a woman. She was like, if you got a beauty salon, if you got this, if you got that, if you got this kind of business, and you've been putting in all that work and you ain't making no money, don't think it's because of you. it just ain't no money in the shoots. This is an all-time low.

This is like a recession of depression. This is shit you read about in the book. I'm telling you, kids, we bless. There's some people really fucked up out there. Like, really, really fucked up. Caught in the fucking politics right now, 42 million people. Caught up in limbo.

No, you're trying to starve them into submission. I'm telling you. You know, we don't talk about politics here, but it's fucked up. We're going to feed the people, regardless. But I'm just saying that it's so bad that the people that donate with us, they ain't even not picking up.

It's crazy. It's gone. They're not even picking up. But one of them picked up, they were just like, yo, it's fucked up out here. Like, how are we giving out to somebody? The motherfuckers ain't buying shit, right?

There's no turkeys. Louis-Ritch. I'm telling you, I got guys. Louis Rich this year. I got guys that we've been. Slice packed to turkey. Spice. ham. We might get them to spam turkey.

You ever ate the spam turkey? You ever had a spank turkey? Spam turkey's good. You never had the spam turkey. I had it. Spam turkey. Nah, it's spam, but it's turkey. It's not the swine. No pork on my fork, no ham in my pan. No, I ain't darker.

I might be the only Puerto Rican without. I went to the Italian deli. You know Piccolos? In Jersey, I go to Piccolos. Right? Shout out the Piccolo. No, Piccolo's got the fucking... It's the real Latire.

It's like Arthur Avenue in the Bronx, but in Jersey. But in any case, I'm over there getting some Italian food, the ladies hustling me for Puerto Rican food. She's like, yo, where can I get the Benning at? I need the best Benin. Did you just like that? No, no, I told her I'm going to pick it up. I told her, I'm going to pick up some Benin for you,

and I'm going to bring it over here because she's always good to me. These are your guys right here. My brothers, everything. And Jeff, I mean, it's the real in the building. Y'all. I mean, to the Jews, three BDs. Y'all, they're in the building. And I mean?

Now, I love these guys, but if they beat us as number one podcast, this is the shit I'm talking about. Our shit is a whole different lane. I mean? No, I'm talking. We're doing Cisco and Eboo. We're in another lane with our podcast. That's why he's even able to exist.

because we're out of the atmosphere with this shit we do. We're reviewing movies. You got to come, you got to come let us review one of the movies you was in. Uh-huh. You want to sit down? Have a seat. They see how white people is.

They help themselves to the cap. Nobody told these niggas to sit down. They're like, yo, they're like, yo, can we sit down? Like, yes, maybe so. Yo, give them the hand-hound mic. These motherfuckers come take over the shit. Well, everybody loves these guys. They have a hell of a reputation for being great guys.

They've been putting them work. Yeah, but you guys, you've been doing it for a long time. Can you tell our audience who you are? Yeah. Like this? Yo, what up? It's Eric, a.k.a. the bag of Chandler, aka. Catch a case. Yo, what up is Jeff, a.k. Shoot a. Boy in Blue, aka Papa Smurf.

It's the real. Yo, Jada, you gave him this. Papa Smurf! And they was crazy, like, that's how I met them. When I met him, they did one of those shits. I was looking at him like, who the fucking he's got? That's the, that's the, mayor's our guy. We asked him if he was going to be here today.

He was trying to move some things around. You know, he's always here. He's always, he always comes saying out. Today, he was, like, he was killing Turkey. Yes. He told you that shit? Yeah. He's killing turkey.

No, no. And mayor's house, for some reason, every year around Thanksgiving, he just, like, 15 wild turkeys in the, the yard. He hunting? No, no. He'd be like, yo, I'm telling y'all shit

that niggas ain't got snap out here. Like, I'm ready kill a turkey. Where do you where the fuck they come from? Look, you can't kill a turkey.

Where they come from? Like, the wood. Every year they come. Mayor can do whatever he wants, right? But why they come down every year around the same time?

Holiday. They come down for the holiday, man. They want sweet potato pot. Let me, Let me tell you something. I moved to Miami and I built me one of the most beautiful homes I ever built was in plantation Florida.

And it was like horse. No, no. It was horses. They had horses. They had, it was like, it was like mansions, but it was like form like. And that night you hear animals fucking and be like, yeah, aye, aye, yay, aye, yay, yay, yay, yay, yay, yay. Baby, you from the block? You used to hearing fucking ambulance and 40 bottles.

This shit, hey, I'm scared to death, motherfucker. I said, like, who the fuck? Like, because, you know, Florida, I wouldn't put it past the motherfucker having the tiger in this backyard. It's like, they enter these animals. That was a scary animal. And then the raccoons come.

The raccoons is like three, four deep. It was like a cartoon, a movie. They come through, I start banging on the wind. They don't give a fuck. Raccoons are not scared of you. They open up the guard. They know how to. open up the garbby, go through your shit in your face, and you can't do shit.

Man, I was miserable out there. Like, every day, I would try to go to the pool at night, like tiptoe to the pool, hoping no animal was out in that bitch. That's a different type of thing. But, Mayor, he keeps the turkeys just pull up on. Joe, we had a podcast that we did from 2015 all the way to 2020 on a weekly basis, right? And then moving up to Christmas, we would do 12 episodes and 12 days. So we did a lot of content, right?

It was called a waste of time with its thrill. And we had everyone on from Stevie Wonder to Cardi B. People would come over to our crib and sit down, right? GZ and Ross and the list went on and on. Number one on our list that we never got to sit down with, Joe Crack the Don. Not for lack of trying. We hit up Angie. We hit up Mayor.

We hit up Rich the player. You know, I got your shit too viral. These motherfuckers ain't like me. I'm telling you, these motherfuckers ain't like me. And I would have went on your shit. and we'd have been on every newspaper in the world because I'd just, I'd be like,

ain't nobody watching these white guys. Let me say, crazy astronomical shit. Motherfucker would be like, oh, my God, this shit, you hear this shit, that didn't talkin over there. Like, y'all, I would have went crazy.

We live on the Upper West Side. We were told that was too far for you to go. 100%. And then one day, one day we're walking on Broadway, there's a black truck, and who pops out of the passenger seat to go to Paris Baguette?

Joe Crack the Don. And when we ran into you another time, we were like, yo, and you were on our block. I ran, I ran a, I, I bumped it to you guys a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just never had the crib. I know, just never for the interview. Never for the interview.

Nah, I got mad love for them. I love what they do. And we, you, listen, you, you guys are killing it up here. Right now, I'm being really cheap with their interviews. Like, right now I'm going to keep it real with you. That's why we had to sneak on here. Yeah, I was staying. Man, the way, but asks a question of Fat Joe

that you might want to ask. You up here. We don't give a fuck. This show ain't about nothing, but there ain't no professionality to this shit. We don't give a fuck. Joe, I just want to let you know that there, and I've told you this before,

there was a moment when you were on with Norrie. And those are some of like the most epic conversations ever. Legendary. Legendary. This type of shit. Yo, we would tell styles, we're like, yo, we just want to pull up and sit down at dinner and hear Joe talk.

Like, for real. Like, we just, you are the greatest storyteller in hip hop. This platform is amazing. But when you were on with Norrie, you told a story when you got locked up and you walked into that jail and everyone was fucking cheering for you and banging on that. I'm cheering. It was intimidating. Yo.

That shit was like a dragon with no fire. It was like the dragon for fucking old. What's the movie where the dragon kills everybody with the fire shit from HBO? Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones. You walk in your day to you don't know, man. Yeah, listen, first of all, off that. Daddy got a suite.

He went to a Fort Dix in New York jail where everybody he knows is in there. New Jersey. They said New Jersey. I was supposed to go there and on Saturday he said,

yo, you live in Miami, you go into the Miami jail. I was going to go to Fort Dix. They had fucking sarac bottles ready for me, double mattresses, floss, a millionaire

was in there, Ching Bing, all of me. The whole planet was waiting for me. The feds must have heard that they said, oh, no, this guy is even going to be too much trouble or this is going to be out of control, sending them to Miami. So when I walk in there, it's 2,000 guys, Aryan nation, Haitians, Jamaicans, Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, this.

This shit sounds like a fucking motorcycle when it's doing this shit. I'm like, yo, this I had to walk in. It's the only time in my life where I had to to check myself because it was walking me to my cell where I was like, Joe, you're willing in all these things. Don't fold. Don't fold. Because it felt like me against 2,000 guys

because I didn't know one person. I didn't look at one person. It was like, all right, I know him. I knew nobody. And they all in there. And fucking walls are made out of the metal. I went in my cell. And then whoever the rappers was

try to run in the cell. Whoever the 30 rappers was We've been waiting their whole life to get in the game. Came and I was like, yo, yo, yo, y'all. You got to get out to sell. Can't come in the shit. This ain't no rapist shit. You know, I'll tell you what's crazy is in that same jail that has two,

where I just told you I'm intimidated, they have 2,000 guys, and they got four tables. So there's TV. There's the Spanish sports English. Give a fuck them. You speak Spanish, and now everybody looking at the Spanish chicks up. on that shit. That shit got more black dudes looking at that shit, the Spanish thing. Like, da-da! Samalo!

He has that niggas in school there. Like, oh, my gosh, she's my favorite Rosalita. Like, they don't give a fuck, right? But they got four tables. And each table got, like, the moral to the stories, I asked this guy, I said, yo, man, who sits there? He looks at him. You know, Jay, I keep trying to tell you, a lot

of guys, pussy. Most men are pussy. I'm telling you the truth. I get up in there, and he looks at me like I'm, like, he was scared for me asking him. Like, he didn't even want to be in a conspiracy. I said, yo, sits in those tables. He's like, like, aka the toughest niggins in the world got them tables.

There's a guy sitting there. I go down. I tell a guy, I'm only there 10 minutes. I tell a guy, yo, get the fuck up. Looking at me, he's saying, you know, what you mean? Get up. This is our table. I said, like I said, get the fuck up.

You got to get busy. something because I need this table. The whole jail was watching. There's 2,000 inmates watching. The guy foiled. He'd get up, he walk away, he ain't want no smoke. He just got up. That's it. That's the end of his table. But I also lost. A thousand

of the inmates was mad at me because this ain't cuddly Fat Joe the rapper. It's like, oh, he's on bullshit. Brad Joe took the table. He's on some shit. But, you know, only had four months, and I was willing to get in the fight, get in the box for four bucks.

You know, you would have heard Fadjo got beat up by a hundred guys. It would have been a story. Like, yo, 100 guys beat him up. They dragged him, but he fought a hundred. I wouldn't have let nobody down. That's the thing with jail. When you go to jail and you somebody who, too many people who have been saying that you're a real guy for their whole life and all that,

you can't let them down when you're in there. You can't have no stories of you being played pussy. No, no compromises stories. You got to go. it's not even I'm by myself. I'm with every guy that ever said what's up to me or ever was down with me

or ever said Fat Joe's a real one. I got to go in there and protect that. That's how I had to give it up. Like anybody who saw me in there they had to be like, the other day, I'm in the party.

Money Match birthday, my man Tafia, he could tell you. You want to bring Tafia on there? He was the only guy locked up with me. He's from Miami. I've seen him in the club the other day. told everybody at table, if y'all don't believe what I say, go ask that guy.

That guy was locked up on me, Tafia. He'll tell you. You know what I'm saying? And it's just, it is what it is. Tafia. That's my brother from down in Miami. But Tafia was locked up on me. He's the one guy to be in the scene that he can tell you what it is or not.

You know, I had a mentoring. So I had my brother Opie Megatron who had 20 years in jail. I had Pistow Pete with another 20 years in jail. It was about three of them. And I'd be like, what to do, whatnot. to do, right? And they was like, yo, you can't let nobody in the cell. That's a violation.

Right? Then, in the cell, the tough guy sleeps in the bottom. The other guy sleeps on the top. That's another conversation I had. As soon as I came in the cell, but this guy was a good guy. This guy, he was a Muslim dude. And I walked in the cell and I was like, yo, you got to go to the top. He said, what? I said, you have to

sleep on the top. This isn't one minute. So, like, you know, kids, They motherfuckers They didn't even get a minute to breathe I'm like yo you gotta go up time He was like what I said brother You have to go up there

I sleep down here I've been here 18 months This is myself Just bro I don't care What you think What you heard What you think You gotta go up there

I'm sleeping here And then the guy You know once he went outside They must have told him who I was Because you came back I didn't know who is Oh my God I said,

nah, no, no, no, it's all good. But that was it, you know, they gave me a rule book shit not to do. They told me never play basketball. Because said, that's where motherfuckers file you on purpose. They're going for the ball back.

Imagine the dude do that to you once or twice. He's got to turn into a fight. So they was like, yo, don't even play basketball. I said, what you mean? I might want to play basketball. They was like, that's where the exercise is your euro.

Yeah, that's where the motherfucker. I couldn't do the euro. You know, I coached in there. I'm 40 in over and I won the chip. 40 in older and they bounced the ball like this. Yo, James, like the bad news bear. They was the most horrible niggas. Let me tell you something.

I worked in the kitchen. There was a dude. Me and him was super cool. He joined that 40 and over basketball league. They might have lost 100 to 1. These guys just bouncing the ball like the bad news bear. The next Saturday went out there. They lost 100 to 1 again.

It was embarrassing. The next Saturday, I walked out. Six in the morning. I went in the court. I said, you here. You here. You here. When this guy come here,

you move to the thing, you go like this. See how easy it is? Yeah. Just go. Y'all, listen, I swear to God, I went up in there

and I coached them and they wound up when in the shit. It turned into like the walker. Every Saturday was crazy. But now, by the second,

third week, I'm coaching him, nice niggas is like, yo, crack, let me be on the tape. I mean, the sip was thunking in the head. Like,

the nice dudes came, And it was like, yo, crack, put me on the team. That's when that shit got crazy. It got crazy lip. I'm fucking thought they was at the Rucker in Miami, but I was coaching, but I helped him God. They won the shit. Winners sleep on the bottom, right?

The winner's sleep on the bottom. Yeah. Paul. Then. Yeah. Welcome to the show. Can I tell you how we all, like, linked up in the first place? Let us know.

All right. So. You know, it's got to take over our show. Yeah. I'm out of respect. No, no, not your kids. They've got a legendary right here. Yeah.

We had this weekly podcast that we would do. Everyone would come and we would tell this story from like the beginning of your life to where we are today. Everyone sat down and did the same shit. So the guys knew us so well that when they signed to Rock Nation, they were going to put out their EP. They wanted to come promote it on our platform. So the three of them are going to come up to our apartment,

sit down, tell their story as the locks. Cool. except for the fact that before they showed up, sheik was totally sober, Stiles took an edible and, you know, he's a professional, and then kiss right to sleep on the table while we're recording. Yo, kiss, man. Occasionally.

Sometimes he come in here so high. Y'all, I can smell that shit to me. I know when they give him the good shit or they give him the maintain shit. There's a weed that's maintained. Maintang, he's high, he's chilling, he in the moment, and there's sometimes that boy come up in here. fry. I said, yo, they gave this thing in the pew on the day. This thing

got some shit. So that day Yeah, out. But he would wake up every once in a while and he would start, like, singing new edition songs. Or he would like just chime in with, like, other things that, like, didn't have anything to do with anything. With new edition songs. Yeah. So meanwhile, Luch and P. are yelling

about movies. And they're looking around and they're looking at the bookshelves and they're like, oh, you fuck with the Big Lebowski. He wakes up. He's like, you got to talk about color purple. We're like, what is going on? I said, whatever this energy is. You guys need to have your own podcast, just like we do one, except you talk about movies and styles goes, no. We're going to do one, and we're going to call it two Jews and three black dudes refusing movies. And so here we are eight years later, doing it on a weekly basis talking about home alone, talking about trading places, talking about sinners, talking about weapons.

I met him, I met a young man. Rambo. Rambo. I met a young man, he's autistic. I met him at a sneaker store. I want to say where I'm sorry, guys. I want to say where because that copped

some good things there but the kid he knew every movie what year what actor I was like Warriors

hey that's Leibbred Thompson that's that this this and that 1997 this and that yo what about the Wanderers

hey that's Jonathan Adler this this he knew every he's he's like the rain man we need them more the show

yeah yeah no it's actually no fun by the time by the fourth or fifth one you're like This guy, you know, everything. I don't know where.

It was somewhere. I don't know where. I don't want to say where it was a sneaker store. They showed me nothing but love. Damn, I don't know where. I want to say like Kansas City or something. And the man coming, he knows everything. A decade ago, I was on the trail of one of the country's most elusive serial killers.

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What you think about Mondani? Love him. We met him when we rolled with the locks to the Wutang show. I told you he came to my dressing room, yeah. Donald Trump can't need your shit, too. But yeah, we won't. No, I'm worried about it. Donald Trump was in Dittie's dressing.

Yo. Yeah, y'all. Yeah, yo, let me tell you something. You know, kiss. No, KISS, yo, yo, Yo, KISS definitely always... Nah, he was in Denny's dressing room. That's where I ever first seen him, man.

Before any elections, any of that. I used to see Donald Trump walking down the street in New York. No bullshit. See him at Nick Games, boxing matches. Walking down the street. I used to see him in New York City, Manhattan. Oh, shit, Donald Trump. He's just walking like a regular dude.

That's crazy. But Mondami, you like him. love him. We need change. We need hope. We need like to do something different. I'm tired of being in this place where everyone's getting priced out. Why are there no creatives, young creatives in New York anymore? Because they're all moving to more affordable cities. You can't stay here. You can't create here. It's a longer, you know, a bigger, deeper thing than than just, you know, what the news tells you. You know, a guy like me who make a lot of money. I should be on the other side, right? I never seen people hate a guy

who says he wants to give less rent free bus rides this day I hate them I want to pay more fuck this Bondami There's only mansions where I live There's only the rich people go to the restaurants I go to I'm sitting here

Fuck Mondami Them shit is flying from all over This guy you believe he wants lower rent He wants free buses Fuck this guy He's a commie I'm like What happened? people want to pay more.

They want to actually... This shit is crazy to me, right? I'm like, yo, I listen, I go, yo, I ain't in politics, but this is fucked out. Yo, there's a lot of people who aspire to have money like you.

A lot of people who aspire to live on the top door. I don't know, but like... My niggas got way more money than me. Totally, no, no, for sure. But there are people who aspire for that. But there's also so many people who aren't doing that.

You know, so many people are struggling to make it through and, like, why shouldn't they have a chance? Why shouldn't they, like, be allowed to, like, enjoy the city? Why do they got to be priced out and move to, like, another state and not be a part of this? Like, what is New York, if not, like, a chance for young creatives to do their thing and, like, make it here, you know? You make it here.

You're making anywhere. But it's just the same fucked up. Everything seems unfair. Yeah. It feels like the rich get richer. There's no middle class. And they just real poor people. He's really crazy.

They say he's the number one realtor for Florida. So everybody's going down to Florida Well, good luck That shit expensive You know My wife was looking at Palm Beach The crackhead house is 89 million Good luck

No Mara Lago for you Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah Dead ass I'm a realtor fuck They say my dog Because you know people like Oh

Well they did it when If everyone's moving Let us know Let us know your address And we'll I ain't gonna lie to you Yeah COVID happened

A lot of people moved down to Florida. And so I'm going to, like, say, Carbone, I'm saying my neighbors from New York. Everybody I know from New York is in the restaurant every night. That did happen. And they've been talking about that since I was a kid, but they would never do it. You know, we're going to Florida.

Fuck that. But it really happened. Where everybody from New York was in every restaurant, everything, they moved down there. So it felt like the Knicks game, every night in every upscale restaurant, in fucking Miami, right? But now, the other half

who stood in New York, they're starting to say, I'm going to Boca Raton, I'm going to Palm Beach, I'm going to Florida. Like, they literally are saying that. You know what I'm saying? Everywhere I'm going.

The other night I was in a restaurant, shout out to my people, Pietro. Do you know Pietro's on the east side? They got some sautain clams, that motherfucker's shrimp salad. God damn it. That shit. Yeah, I don't know.

What? This shit popping. The salad feel like a meal. Shrimp salad is so good. But everybody in that restaurant, you know, I'm hearing the fuck Mondami's to, I'm going to Florida. Yo, and Boca Raton, like, they got a real problem with this.

You know what else I love? He's young. Like, I'm tired of, like, older politicians. Once we're getting, like, way up there deciding what everybody else. I don't know. That's a shaky one. Why's that? You got to watch his head.

He got to watch his food. Yo. Yeah, you gotta be careful. He needs a food tester. He needs a everything test. You know, back in the day, the Kings had somebody eat the food and then be like, all right.

Even in the Indian movies back in the day, they'd be like, yo, taste the food. Like, Ma'Dami got a food tester. Yeah, you should get one. I'm here for change. I'm here for young people making some decisions, doing something different. You know, I got so discouraged with politics

that I've just been out the scene. My Dami's probably somebody I really would have knew about, really would have been into. I just, I've just been trying to, like, you know, stay focused on your shit. You know, my thing's on bottle of the way. Ege's own bottle of patrol. Just own bottle of patrol.

I ain't hear that in a minute. You've been really opinionative on this show, Yeager. That's the first time you said, he's his own bottle of patrol. You know what else? He's fucking lying. So we go up to the studio up in Yonkers. We tape every week.

We talk about these movies. We never bring up politics. We never bring up, like, you know. that's good serious worldly issues it is a chance to escape we just talk about movies we do is jada kiss italian what cheek mad about karate man with styles p we just have a lot of fun up there and so it's it's something different that gets to flood your timeline instead of like the realities of the world you know how old are you brother how old i'm asking you're looking like a fucking young guy but i'll be how old baby oh hold oh yeah yeah he might be a tweener yeah yeah this guy might be a tweeter right this thing is looking like a nerds over here. How old are you? I'm 41. He's 41 with a full set of hair. When a full set of hairs. No. Well, let me ask you this.

He's got a full... Yo, that's a big deal. Like a set of not. You know, you always want something. 41 with a full set of not! Well, let me ask you this. Would you rather have hair or be able to dunk? I'd rather have hair. You know, I'd change my own name if I got here.

My name would be... Procedo. Alejandro. I'd be coming up here. Alejander. Oh, with a fucking part with the fucking I have more fucking spray than fucking John Chabotra. Saturday night fever. My shit be glossy.

Yeah. Yo, by the way. So glow. Yo. I'll be up here like, no, I'm telling you, I'd be really obnoxious. Yo. I have hair stylists and shit right now. Like, right now, I'd be like, cut for a sec.

If I come, then, you're like, yo. Slates his shit out. Give him the finger waves. I'll come up here with the finger waves. That'll balk. you with fingerways and put it down dog I'll do it the other day I'm in traffic on the FDR

I looked at the side of this girl I had the finger wears I said man now that's real dedication I fucking dedicate that's hours under the fucking beauty salon Yeah shout out to Peckos He never misses a chance to put up a throwback picture of him with hair up on Instagram

Yo bro I had hair I looked like the Brady You know no I look like the Brady bunch back in the day when I was a kid, I had real fucking ant. Nobody believed me till I bust the bitches out. It was like, God damn, this guy was the Brady Bunch.

Well, what was the last straw? The truth is, happy birthday, Big Pond. This Big Punt's birthday today. Big Punt. Happy birthday, my bro. The stunner. All my friends call me stun. And so with Big Pond, he had hair, right?

So I always had a Cesar since I was like 14. The thing was for me, when I was a kid, the gangsters had a boy head. When I first cut my hair bald, my father chased me around the projects four times trying to beat my ass because he knew the cut automatically meant I'm down with a gang, I'm tough, something.

It was no way around it. When I had hair like a Brady bunch and then I had the baldie, my father was outside enough to know this means he wants to be a piece of shit in life. So my father chased me around the block four times trying to fuck me up. So I always had to be.

Got it like that, and then I start telling pun, yo, you know, I got hair. Like, I still thought I did. I said, I got hair like the Brady Bunch, my nigga. Like, you think you got hair. I got, if I grow this shit, forget it. My shit would be like yours. He was like, your shit ain't growing like shit.

I said, I promise. I said, you know what? I'm going to get braids for you. I'm going to do braids. Watch we get the braids like AI, shit like that. Man, I try to grow that shit. That shit was like, Nothing.

That shit was the thinnest air in the world. I never forget. We went to a Knit game. I had like some little rubber bands on the little hair that was growing. That nigga punk killed me on that. He's like, yo, Nick, you ain't got no hair. This is this is bullshit. And that's when I realized I had no hair.

And so I said, man, take it off. There's no more Brady Bunch. You know what I'm saying for me? But I wish I had hair. I'm not going to lie. That's one of the things I wish I had. Huh? Yeah, go to Turkey.

Go to Turkey? Yeah. I don't know if Turkey. That's what she did. I've had no hair. I've had no hair for so long. I have no hair for so long. It'll feel weird to even get here, right?

If I went to Turkey. What if you got, like, a little thing in the back? Carlos Boozer. Listen, guys, I ain't the one-way shit. I ain't doing asshole or shit. I'm telling you that if I went to Turkey and my shit grew black full-flotted would be the return of a Cizio. Alejangelo.

My ship be Alejandro is in the building. Who, Alejandro Roas? You remember, Fat Joe. What's on with this? Giants coach fight, table? Well, they ain't never win a game, huh? You like that move, huh? Hell we.

It is that. All right, let me ask you a question. Right, being that you said that at the Jets game, on the field was Max B. Yeah. Welcome home. Welcome home. Big a veil.

Have you ever in your life seen a dude do 18 years in jail? Come out and go to the field of the Jets and Louis Vitton down to the fanny pack? Let's let's keep it a buck. He did shit. He came out of jail.

They was throwing ice on his neck. Louis Vitton down. Like, yo, come on, man, we can't, and the thing is, I don't know if he was in a time capsule. He gained a little weight in 18 years, but he looked like Bigger Vow.

Now, I never seen nobody looked like they preserved him. He might have been into Michael Jackson in there, the fucking machine, because he came out just, it was 18 years, 16, when you see him and you see how he's moving, he went to the after party last night. He looked like

Max B. Like the guy, the last time I saw him 16 years ago, He was in the club in Manhattan, looking the same way. And he dead nice. I don't think he fell off. I think Biggerville going to come with all them flows and all that. I'm really watching that. The Max B wave because he's the waveguard.

I'm trying to explain it to my daughter. Explained to my family. I say, yo, this guy's the wave. What do you mean? He's the wave. He's a wave guard. Like, remember then there would be on the DVDs like, I'm gorgeous. I'm fly.

Look at my head. It's Max B. Okay. So now Max B goes, he comes out of jail. French is there. He says, we're going to Morocco. Let's get to the business. He in the studio same day.

That's Max B. Like, I mean, how do you go from, all right, now my thing is, Lori, please, close your ears with this one. I can do 18 years in jail. I ain't do 18 years in jail, but what I do know, was that all my friends in jail tell them stories how the police just fucked with them, rolled them, told them they wasn't shit. They had a cop went in rem itself for seven years straight,

talking about you ain't shit, ain't nobody waiting for you. This is what they do. They try to make you feel less of whatever. Suppose that cop in Max B's life who was fucking with him. You thought he wouldn't come home than nothing. And there's a Jets thing. He tuned into the game and Max Bitt was on that court. No much of a cock smuggler.

That nigger felt like that fucking correction officer. He felt like the biggest dick you ever seen in your life. A fucking smoking asshole piece of shit. I remember Remy. They took Remy. Listen, they took Remy to the last drop. Remy was on parole. She was on TV.

They knew she was rich. All the way up was number one in the country. wasn't giving up permission to do shows. They was fucking with Remy. She ended up with an ankle bracelet. They watching on TV. Black love. This, this dad, number one in the country, this.

And they was fucking with Remy to the point. I never forget, man. She had the goal so they could cut a shit off. To take her off, Parra. I came up. I was in the, um, the drop top, Rose Royce. What's the shit?

The, um, damn, I had that bitch. You know, the drop-top Rose Royce with the black and the red I had it for that summer and I pull up and when I tell you if they had 20 parole offices

in the building or 20 of them was outside she wasn't even their client or not maybe out there we pull the fuck up cut the shit off man fuck all you niggas suck my dick

fuck all you niggas out here they all lined up I'm violating these niggas so crazy fuck y'all y'all know what y'all did this they came to the last drop ask remi when we bring remi on the show they stood in front of that building to the last drop my nigga if it was 1159 they could fuck with her

they fucked with her to 1159 she went up in there the whole precinct the whole every probation officer that had nothing to do her was outside like it was their day came out we cursed these niggas i we jumped in the drive top we pulled dog Fuck out of you. I keep it to myself,

but I got a problem with a thar and you and all that shit. You know what I'm saying? Cops want to talk to you like you ain't shit. You less of a man. You ain't never going to be this rich as me, man. Don't play yourself, man. Like, be clear about this. Just give me the ticket.

I want the ticket. I want the ticket. You ain't got to scold me and scream at me in front of my wife and front of my family and talk to me like, yo, bro, you're not on this level. And you know it, buddy. Like, you got to stop. Give me the ticket, buddy.

Give me the ticket. Yo, this kid, let me tell you something. I ended with this. I think I said this before. It's a young Puerto Rican kid. He can't be older than 23, 24. I go through the Midtown Tunnel, the Queenside, and for some reason,

a easy pass don't work. I pull over. He comes up, it's like three of them. He won't license registration. I give him my license. My license is Florida. I lived in Florida for 23 years. Oh, hell no.

It's supposed to be New York. This, I don't know what this thing was talking about, right? So he over there, about 10 minutes discussing it with them. I guess they're telling him, yo's fat, Joe, let him go. You know, and you can, ah, yeah, right?

So he'd come back. I said, my nigga, the ticket, or let me go. I ain't got no real rap for you. I'm not going back and forth with you. And you know your father had a poster of me on his wall. Violate you right now.

So, all right, Mr. Joe, let me go. I'm not playing. that shit with these niggas? You got to be fucking kidding. This ain't that? That ain't this. Cracking kiss, God damn it. Y'all kiss.

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