Joe and Jada - French Montana & Max B on 'Coke Wave 3.5: Narcos,' Max's prison stories & "All The Way Up"
Episode Date: January 13, 2026Fat Joe and Jadakiss are FINALLY joined by French Montana and the newly-freed Max B, fresh off their new project 'Coke Wave 3.5: Narcos' hitting the streets January 9th. Joe and Jada welcome Max B hom...e after his 16-year prison term, and Max talks about coping behind bars and a hilarious time he had groups of fellow inmates rapping for him. Also discussed: French's recent marriage to Sheikha Mahra, the princess of Dubai; Max walking out of prison and popping up immediately on the sideline of a New York Jets game; the making of Joe and French's smash hit "All The Way Up," as well as French's hits "Unforgettable" featuring Swae Lee and "Figure It Out" featuring Kanye West and Nas; and the stories behind each of Joe, Jada, French, and Max's rap names. All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I'm gonna come smack out with a million-dollar baby.
Then we got another wave guard, I have them dropping.
Then I'm doing another mixtape.
Don Snow.
It's a lot of store.
I never stop.
I have unlimited classic wave.
Hey, y'all, what's up?
Y'all's BX is on.
Joe Crack to Dawn.
You know who it is, your boy, Jada.
You know what it is?
It is the Joe and Jada show.
Every show legendary, every show iconic.
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Today's guess, you think of the streets.
You know what I mean?
You think of Morocco.
You think of the Bronx.
You think of Harlem.
Some of the grimy is blocked.
Shout to the 140th.
You know what I mean?
You think.
of influential collaborators
that created a wave era.
You know what I mean?
Something that reflected the hood
from fashion to lingo,
to melodies,
to drama in the street,
to plenty of litness.
You know what I mean?
The wave.
Ladies and gentlemen,
make some noise for our guests,
French Montana.
Match Baker Fad
You're
Myr
You're friends
You don't get high
no more
But you look like you smoke
A little something
Right now
I'm still high
That dude
That's extra high
He got that residue
That mean you had
Shit
He's still high
You've been clean for years
I was still a little
When I stopped
Let me tell you
Before we start
We got to start
On a sad note
Right
But it's really quick
Your dog passed away
That was my guy
I used to live vicariously
On Instagram
Watching you with the dog
And he's the lion
He's the biggest dog
Yeah it's a bad
And massive
But they don't live that long though
Oh I don't mean
So yeah that's my dog man
My dog champ man
I've been through a lot
Yeah the dog
Yeah
But he was like a lion though
This guy the biggest dog
Getting the fucking universe
Yeah it's a bad master
Yeah
I ain't seen any of your pets yet
Because you ain't go to LA
You can't fly yet
man.
You ain't see the monkey yet.
He'll be having a monkey on the G6.
He's got all type of shit.
He's Arab.
He's the only person that can really
verify the little man, right?
Yeah.
Yo!
Yo, French.
You French.
You French, I forgot about that shit.
Yeah.
Yo, French.
Oh, God.
That's my little guy.
That's his name in Morocco.
He's in Maccadash.
Yeah, he's like a purse.
He's like, I fucking told you.
The little man, yo, Max.
He's like a little burking bag.
You know, let me tell you, if you see that shit.
He ain't lying, though.
You see that fucking chain?
Yeah, he's alive.
He got a lot.
The niz could duck me how to chain.
It's a little man.
I told you he could wear suit.
Like some shit.
He's making him like the size of the rewind.
Okay.
He just holds him like a little burking bat.
Yeah, whoever his.
A burkin bag.
Yeah, whoever his guardian is, just pick him up all the dress and they go outside.
What the fucking are.
He just pick him up with the dress.
Whoever his guardian is, he probably would be waiting for him by the dressing.
He picked him up and he'll go outside.
You not listen to me.
I got to get over there.
He's like the size of that bottle.
He ain't lying, though.
But he's a full grown man.
Yo, Vak, can we go find him?
Can we go see?
Nah, we're going to find him.
He in Morocco.
He in Morocco, Maca Deso.
Maracas.
He's in Maca-Dazz, right?
Yeah, yeah.
You know, you know.
Nah, they don't believe me neither.
That's not what I'm talking about.
Is he bigger than this?
A little bit
A little bigger
Yeah
He was high behind the T S
fucking monkey man
No no
No no we're talking to you
You Matt
You're talking about a human beings
Goan ass man that little
This ain't a monkey
This ain't a monkey
He got the monkey
He got a little guy too
He didn't see the monkey
He got the princess of Dubai
Who the monkeys
Your friends
Yeah
Yeah
Your friends got the princess
To buy
Shout to the princess
Yeah
Yo, let me ask you something, right?
Because in the hip-hop game and the R&B game,
one of the biggest queens at Princesses is, of course, Janet Jackson,
Big Punts favorite.
And Jermaine DePree came in, and I'm looking at him.
And I said, how the fuck he bagged Janet Jackson?
And her prime six-packed us.
A little bit of the answer.
He, listen.
Anyway, yo, it's a question.
Yeah, yeah.
How do you bag the legitimate
Princess of Dubai
Coming from the Bronx?
No, no, no, you're not asking this.
Hold on, hold up.
Hold on, hold up.
But it might not be, though,
because you ask you,
Jermaine is like how you catch lightning in a bottle.
It's just like, you know, sometimes somebody could look at it
like it's a highlight.
Hold on, hold on, French.
How do you gag?
Your French, why don't you answer the question?
You dancing on the Senate?
No, no, I'm not.
It was one of my homeboys.
He plugged me with a lot.
in Dubai.
He said you want to meet the princess in Dubai?
I just happened to be in Dubai.
And I remember I had seen that she had put up that post
where she divorced somebody.
I'm like, I like her.
Because it takes a lot of,
a lot of guts to throw that up.
So she threw that up.
I'm like, I like her.
He was like, man, I know her.
I'm like, I.
He said he know him?
Yeah, yeah, he said he know.
Oh, no.
He said he knew a girl that knew her.
And I'm like, do what you got to do.
So I knew a guy that knew a guy.
sniper gang.
No, this is a legendary...
You heard the first head, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
This is a legendary phone.
Hip-hop when you see that.
For answer your question,
I think it would be...
I think it was easier for him
to get the princess
than it was easier
to J.D.
get Jen Jackson.
That's the fact.
Yeah, because, you know,
he must have been ready.
That was real shit.
You know,
pause.
You know, France wanted to answer months.
You know, she probably was scheming on you.
Oh, I'm pretty.
Pause.
You hit me with the...
You need like a half...
I've been waiting to do that,
Graeme, you know.
Look.
Listen, you more than anybody
because you're Muslim,
you met so many phony bolognaz.
Yeah.
So many super rich
Arabs that say they're the prince,
they're the king,
they're all full of shit.
Yeah, everybody's a shit.
Everybody's full of shit.
Right?
They're all raw.
You get you.
If you got money, you act like you.
Yo, this Prince Jafi,
Jaffa's come.
What's your name over there?
I'm Ali Qashani.
He knows I'm...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yo, yeah, your friend.
Yo, Shisham Malikishani.
My name is Ali Qashani in the Middle East.
Al-A-Nah al-A-Lahmda-Lah.
I am Ali Qishan.
You know what time is all.
I need a name over there, Lord.
Shishu-Malik.
I'm Ali Kishani.
Yo, Max.
I'm Ali Kishani.
That's hard.
But when I go like this, I say, yo, French, with the Prince of Dubois.
I said, all right, hold up.
So I had to verify and I said,
she the fucking real deal princess Dubai.
Yeah.
She's not the people, humans don't see her like that.
Max, she came to your welcome home out of jail.
Yeah, she's down to earth.
That's shit.
Yeah, she's down to her.
Right.
She was telling the wife.
Everybody was getting along.
These people, you know, I know the Royal family too.
I know her family.
Yeah.
Right?
You know, Snowcap with Joe Crack.
One day they came with me
And they hung out with me
And the brother you here
I said yeah
They came to the mall
Mm-hmm
Right
They hung out with me
Three four hours
You know
Pitching their cheeks
All like
Yo fuck out of it
You know
We family
Having the best time
In my life
I go back to the hotel
The promoter
You know
He paid me crazy money
To go out there
I thought
He was gonna be pissed
Because I was just gone
Like I left
The man said
You know
Tell me
You know the
mock tunes
I said
my family
what you're talking about
he said
we've never
seen these people
in the mall
in our life
and I'm walking around
with them
so I know
when he did that
I said
they don't even see them
the palace is down the block
nobody ever see them
in human form
it's like
Obama on 10,000
you don't see them
they're on the money
they're on the money
they're on everything
no no
They're on the money.
When you go in the hotel,
they got the three shakes.
Yeah.
That's them.
But you can see these people
in this business we end.
Oh.
Anybody can see anybody in this business.
A man like this walk in the room,
they know he's coming in the country.
They know he coming to town.
He go to the club.
He got his shit out.
Pause.
Oh, my God.
Not enough, but you know he did a lot of time.
Let me grab my flag.
He did a lot of time.
And I see this going to be.
be going somewhere else.
Yo, Max, you did a lot of time.
What you mean?
No, I mean, like, you know, you...
I'm not using that no more.
You got a legitimate pause.
Like, you got, like...
You know, you, you know, you've been gone for a minute.
I mean, I mean, but honestly, though, it's like...
I had a cell phone in jazz.
When you...
When you...
Talk slow to him, Max.
I had motion.
Woo!
When you come to the States, you see, like, Trump,
so you see people like being the president for four years and getting out of office.
When you go to places like that, you talk about...
people that own the place.
Ever.
You can buy the houses,
but the government
still own the place.
They still own everything.
Everything.
So it's like the own son
and they only get passed down
to your bloodline.
It's like there's a whole different
type of love out there.
But shout to her whole family.
And I'd be out with her husband.
I mean, since I knew,
I don't think she ever rocked for one piece of jewelry.
That's how gangst they keep it.
One.
Not one.
They don't rock like that.
I got them a piece one time.
Maktunes.
I got them like the Arabic,
the Muslim shit for his birthday.
He never,
I'm sure he never would.
I got him, I iced out.
They're good people, man.
Shot out of the whole much.
They're the best in the world.
And so Max B.
How many years, Max B?
Well, on this one?
18.
This one.
This one.
This one.
17 years and 10 months.
How many total?
I did eight New York, so I did 25 years.
Well, this was 17.
Them being back.
All the dudes don't have dissinity.
All the things don't know what's going on after doing that much.
Last time I've seen you,
I was in the club and you had a captain and
Teneo hat on. You had some pilot
shit. You remember when he rocked
a pilot hat? We're in the club.
Next day, you're in jail. I said,
what the fuck? I'm looking at you. You a movie.
I know your wife is here now, but I'm talking
20 years ago. This is old wife.
You had like four white girls with you
and you had a captain into Neil
shit on. I'm looking at him in the club
and then he got the pilots hat on. I said,
yo, this nigger big of that was
crazy, but. And so the
wave about to take off on a legend
It already took off, but it was about to take off on another legendary form.
You sitting in jail.
I can't imagine what's that like facing life.
You was smelling it when you was about to get the grand prize.
How horrible was that?
It was something I, it was horrible with it, but it was something I had to get over like that.
Had to get adjusted.
It was nothing I sat on.
It was like next day, it was like, all right, off to the next.
How are you going to get the fuck out?
That's it.
You walked in there and said, I'm bidding.
My second rodeo.
So I kind of, I knew the ropes.
I had shit going, I mean.
I was maneuvering the V.
I was behind the scene.
I had motherfucket.
You know, I did four months.
I was running that shit for four months.
I was trying to tell you.
I know you was good.
I said, don't let nobody lie to you.
But the night before I go to jail, I see your pistol,
what's it going to be like for me?
He said, man, you Joe the Dawn.
Man, it's going to be just like that is there,
like it is out here.
You don't know no other way to be.
He ain't fucking lied.
We went in there.
We locked that shit down in the kilometer of a second.
You know, Hong Kong Mongolian.
Hong Kong's, I had a dude in there called Hong Kongs Mongolian.
No, I'm telling you.
I'm not even going to throw the flag on that one.
No, no, Hong Kong's Montau.
Listen, that's crazy.
Unfortunately, in jail,
Blacks stick with blacks, Latinos, Latinos with white, white, Asian with Asian.
This guy was like a,
He was a big white boy and the white people ain't want him because he looked a little slow.
Y'all took him in.
Snick, him was strong, boy.
You hear me?
They ain't a close up on the basketball court.
Start filing everybody.
I was looking at him.
And I said, something special about this guy, right?
Pause.
That was crazy.
Oh.
Special about these guys.
It's sick.
So I say, yo, I put him down with the team.
And I say, you know what?
You Hong Kong's Mongolian.
He said, huh?
I can't let it go, man.
I can't let it go, crack.
I said, you Hong Kong's Mongolian.
Nah, the way you drag it, though.
You know, I gave him.
You're not listening.
Your first time meeting.
Dude, used to stand like this.
Don't hurt the leg, don't hurt the.
Hong Kong's mom.
You stay like, here.
I don't want to say the word.
He talks about poor.
on another level
but what I'm trying to tell you
is this guy could take 12 guys in a fight
like you could just
he had that boot strength
so I put him down
and he shined the table and shit like that
but one day he comes up to me
he says
he said boss boss
I just realized
that Hong Kong and Mongolia's two different places
I said man shut the fuck up to Joy you're not
man the fuck out of here
with that shit
Hong Kong go dust the table
Yeah.
Biggie Vell, was they asking you mad stupid questions?
Like, did you have to put a shutdown
and don't ask me?
All the time.
Open-minded, though.
If I fuck what the dude, if it's vibe is all right,
you know what I'm saying?
He ain't on no corn bullshit.
I might entertain a nigga conversation.
I might entertain a nigga 16.
You know what I'm saying?
It depends.
I was there short.
I wasn't want to hear nothing.
The miggas ran up.
I said, yo, stay where you at.
It's not hip.
pop, nigga.
They don't want to rap.
I broke hearts
in the first two minutes.
They ran up in that bitch.
They was like, yo, yeah, yeah.
I said, no, no, no.
No, this ain't rap.
You know, I ain't rapping.
No, I don't know J-Lo.
They have 20 of them niggas in there rapping.
Yeah, have a little fun.
Just when I'm in the mood, I'm on some shit.
I smoke a joint and get 20 of them
niggies in there.
They start battle rap, be acting crazy.
You know the saddest thing I think about when
artists go to jail.
what was the Christmas like 18, 17 Christmas?
Are you in there for Happy New Year?
They quit.
They quit.
That's it.
You just got to get old with them shit.
That's going to go for them's closer.
Can't sit up in there like, hell, I'm saying what's how I was home for Christmas.
I put the Christmas tree up this year, spent Christmas with the family, wore a sweater, drunk, drunk egg dog.
I did all that shit this year.
It happened.
We got another one, me and him going to talk about,
I'm going to talk about the dirty section.
You know, we just got...
You ain't even let me talk, go.
You didn't even let me talk.
That's a force.
You got to take the flag back in the second, listen.
What I'm saying is, that was a crazy answer.
You know, nobody, you're not listening.
Nobody came in the podcast game like Joe and Jada.
It's impossible.
Every day the biggest star.
the bigger one, the bigger one, the bigger one, the bigger one.
We 70 episodes, we like 68 superstars in,
and everybody else is online, ready to come.
Crazy.
Pause.
Super pause.
That one was a disrespect.
Now, but there's a part of YouTube that we call the Dirty Section, AM Radio.
He's a good morning, Vietnam.
I mean, talk about everybody.
violating everybody. They don't care.
It's the dirty section.
They don't make it the Netflix.
You know what I'm saying? They ain't getting to the bag like that, right?
They're doing it for, you know, 500 a month for some shit, right?
Unfortunately, is really crabs in the barrel.
You come out.
You did 20 years.
I never heard no dirt on your name.
I never heard nothing.
But here come the dirty section.
Trying to throw rumors on your name and all that.
And this is the place to address that.
And does it even bother you that it's a family member?
God got me right where he won me.
After all I've been through that time,
and to get back here and doing what I'm doing,
do it look like it bothers me?
No, not at all.
It's just sad.
I don't know of any other culture get down like that like this.
It ain't just you.
I see it with big meat.
Niggas be disgruntled when they don't get their way.
With something don't work for them, they get disgruntling.
It's always disgrunt to people.
They're not here no more.
And everybody think they're in the wave.
And then the minute you say,
you know what, this guy's not good for me.
And it's lights out.
Yeah.
It's back to the roaches when you put the lights on and shit.
Running around the crib.
You fucked up.
There's no more Dubai.
And so that's when they start trying to dirty somebody.
name or some reputation because
you know what I think they disgruntle
I think salute to you
and salute to you and salute to y'all
you came out and
the rollout was like
nobody rollout
you couldn't wait
you still rolling out
yo that bitch like a genie in a bottle
they like you unrolling dudes come home
how about this army coach
nobody
in a ever
That shit is old.
A Jimbo's...
Hold on.
You kept it...
You kept the $10,000 with your brother.
Yeah.
You right there for him.
You got a strong brother.
Which is 100 million percent.
For my whole number solid...
That's a whole different thing.
Solid planet.
Listen to me.
That's a whole different thing.
Everybody has like, hold on.
We still unrolling.
Everybody don't do 17 years.
Still rolling, Nick.
Everybody don't do 17 years
and your brother waiting for you
and he's still up and he putting this shit in play.
What kind of?
blessing is that?
This nigga, though,
out of all the motherfuckers
on the planet,
I got genuine happiness,
pure friendship for this nigga.
No money, no nothing.
I shit is based on straight,
solid, friendship,
music creation.
That's just my nigga.
Anything else happened.
So when I'm in jail
seeing this thing on TV,
I ain't a nigga on fuck.
That should have been me.
No.
I'm in that motherfucker crying with happiness.
That's right.
This nigga, yeah, look at my nigga.
Ah, fuck y'all.
That's how I was in there.
I mean a lot to him.
He mean a lot to me.
That's my nigga.
It's real shit.
That's it.
Because I felt like when you got with Max,
that's when the real French Montana was discovered.
Yeah.
That's when you've been doing it, Coke, DVDs, all that.
But I never forget.
I'm in the studio with Coolid Dre.
And Dre is like, yo, your man, French is catching the old.
Fade.
Yeah.
We listen to both of y'all.
He's a big fan of you, Dre.
Yeah, fuck with Drake.
And Dre.
And Dre was like,
yo, and this guy, Max B,
and we just listening to the show.
Yo, we're just like,
yo, this shit crazy.
And you never turned back.
Yeah.
Not for sure.
I mean, it was a wild time, man.
I think we first started when I met Max.
I think I had the whole cocaine city show, you know.
You were already killing the street with DVDs.
And he already has something going on, too.
So when we got the government.
It was just like bringing the movement together.
You know what I'm saying?
It's almost like bringing kids to styles
and the sheet together.
It was like that.
You and I'm saying?
Rest in peace, chinks, we lost chinks.
He was in the mix with us.
That's my guy.
When he first got to 75,
I was rocking out with him for the whole 75.
It wasn't even like, oh, no,
oh, I know you're going to get 18 and get it back.
I was rocking.
He didn't find out he was going to get out of 18
until probably after what, like 13 years in?
Yeah.
You brought me out the box one time, Nick.
What you was at?
Like Philly or something?
Up there.
I was in locker.
They were like, wait and get busy.
Can't see me.
They pulled me out of the box, my man on the window.
But he was living spontaneously through me.
I would be face-sighted me, you know,
calling him with like Vin Diesel,
calling him with like, whine him out.
He'd be in there, this is Vin Diesel?
Yo, what up, Max?
No, we be shade.
Yeah, yeah, he was living spontaneously through it, man, you know?
It's crazy because we was.
He's home now, but we was calling Flores the millionaire.
He was out.
at the parties. He was like, yo, I'm at the party,
nigga. What's going on here?
Mary Jay, gonna talk. Yo, what's up,
nigga? It was like, he got
he at the party. You got two or three
spectators you trust watching the
face like, yo, this shit crazy.
I mean, yo, it's on.
I mean, it's nothing like
that in French.
First of all, I'm looking at all of them diamonds
and I'm saying to myself.
You like it? You like it? No, I'm thinking
Save a little beast
You know I took the demo
For a master flex
You never save a little beast for leg
You're rich a long time
I'm throwing a flag on you
Yo French
You're French
All type of wealth
I know where you live
Not a little beast
I ain't a lot
I ain't a lot
Crack a real one
Crack a real one
Let's go French
That's say I can
That's more than diamonds
That's more than gold
that's more than anything I could give you.
It was always like that.
Nah, no, I could take a gift.
Fuck that.
Fuck that.
A little piece for later.
I could take a gift.
Let me get a little peace for later.
I look at it myself, French Montana, Princess Dubai.
I'm ready to get a job with this nigga right here.
I'm sitting there.
I said, damn, man, save a little beast for later.
And for your guys who don't know,
French was having a hard time
getting his music on the radio
on the bops.
And I went up there
and had a serious,
serious conversation with Funk Flex
because y'all was already on fire.
Yeah, he had just got,
now he had just got locked up.
You was already on fire.
Blackballed.
Yeah, I was Blackball.
I was Blackballed even more.
Listen, they blackballed me.
Yeah.
I had beef with the biggest
dudes you ever seen in your life.
Yeah.
I had beef.
And they was like,
Yo, he can't get that.
Fat Joe made it through the Chitlin circuit with number ones.
Number one in America.
They was like, no, you perform in Alabama.
You go to PA.
You can't get on this tour.
Like every tour I was trying to get on, they was like, yo, you can't.
What?
Lockage.
Super facts.
I never cried about it.
But I go up there, he was my son's favorite rap.
And I say, yo, and he played it in six months later.
That shit was pop that.
Pop that pussy, pop, pop that man.
You took off for six months.
Yeah.
It went from shot caller to pop that.
Yeah.
We never turned back.
Grind it out, though.
He grind it.
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I see the fridge at summer gym,
I think you got shot in the head. I can't
even leave. Yeah.
I said, this thing is going to
get the shit, this thing is best. You had to sit on your
head and all that?
No, I just have to sit on the grass.
He had the cause on the car. But I'm saying,
this nigga's going to get rich.
There's no way I would have went to show.
That ain't supposed to time getting shot.
That's a little bit from Morocco.
What the fuck is that mean, man?
Maraco ain't all right?
Yeah, but hold up.
Let me tell you, I go to Maccadesh.
This is the time I met the little man.
It's Marrakes, man.
Marrakech, but you know, fat, yo, French.
Yo, French, I fuck everything up.
I'm fried.
But listen, I get in the car.
They booked me to do a show.
And they drive into the desert for like two hours straight.
And they talk in Arabic.
And I said, that shit.
The Taliban.
I got set up.
I thought it was the Tally.
I thought it was the Taliban, my nigga.
Like, they just talked to this.
It wasn't.
Two hours French and Machinette into the desert.
Like, I'm really seeing fucking camels and all that.
It's nothing.
Nothing.
Not a gas station.
Nothing.
I'm driving in for two days.
And then you got to know this place.
They pull up in this shit like an oasis.
Yeah.
They got villas there.
Yeah.
And I'm like, thank God.
I walk up in that business.
Like, you got the biggest fill of fat Joe, this, this.
I was like, yo, what the fuck?
For sure I was kidnapped.
Yeah.
I'm looking out the window.
I'm like, damn, man, he didn't put me on the screen.
Fat Joe.
I'm done, nigga.
They're about to chop my shit off.
No, America's got a lot of desert.
You've been to that place when I'm talking about.
Like, it's like in the middle of nowhere.
Yeah, it's like a hotel in the middle of the desert.
A hotel in the middle of nowhere.
The Oasis.
It is an Oasis.
Yeah, I forgot the name, but I know what you're talking about.
How's your brother, man?
Oh, he's good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shout to Zach.
Shout to Zach.
Shout to Zat.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You could probably get the princess to get him a diplomatic immunity.
We're trying.
We're trying.
Yeah, we're trying every school.
Does Sean just get that all?
Man, Sean.
He's almost like you.
He's almost like you.
You came home and you got right to a shot.
You know, Sean was a set of Jew.
He did it all.
He made sure he was getting back in the United States.
That shit was impossible.
He came back.
He came back.
He was like his third time.
Oh, Sean?
Zat.
Oh, yeah.
Through my nigga out the country about three times.
I mean, exactly my dick.
But he's back.
But he good over there.
When he wanted to have big fun, he'd go to Dubai then, right?
Yeah, yeah.
He could still go to Europe, Dubai, shit like that.
Hell yeah.
You know, you're in Paris fashion week.
Morocco is better than being in jail.
So I tell them all the time.
Way better than you.
Joe, my told Max, right before you got here,
you're our first late customer.
Oh, how bad.
First ever.
I really thought you was on rap hours.
I was like, yeah, he just telling me 12
because they're not going to be two hours late.
My bad.
It's a family show, man.
I'm a fan of the show.
I know y'all my two favorite people in the world.
No, no.
I'm not doing good, man.
This thing has been up.
We're not in here.
But that's what I'm saying, right?
I tell you back.
Max come out, what they call it, it ain't court side.
What's the shit when you're on the field?
Sideline.
Sideline.
He was on that old field.
I don't know football like that.
I met Shador.
Shardor.
Shado! Shado! Shat to Shadole.
You come right out of jail when you're on the sidelines.
LV.D. Don't forget that.
The Instagram going crazy.
The point is you had a hell of two months.
The hype around him is almost like when 50 said just had the mixtapes.
And it was like, all right, let's hear his single.
Because that's what they want, Max.
I'm telling you, you're beyond talented.
You got it to put it out.
Nobody got flows like you.
Nobody rap flowed like you.
You crazy.
I'm telling you, as a hip-hop fan,
I don't heard your music, the flows, the melodies, the disd at that.
But if you come with that, go shoddy.
It's shiver.
When you come with one that does,
you'll be walking in the Louis Vuitton Paris runway.
That's how big.
You know, right now it was great.
Moms and pops, everybody taking care of you.
They're getting you to the bag,
but you got a silver surfer bag if you put it out the park.
And we come with one of them African joints?
Yeah.
We might have one.
We might have one.
We might have one up, but you know what's one.
It's a lot in store.
Yeah.
Yeah, we got a lot of musing.
My first 30 days out, I gave him a 20 plus 24 song mixtape my first day out.
That's crazy.
I didn't have no hours in the day.
And got my kids with me every day, wife every day, still went there and gave niggins a urge.
And we got another one coming out with 22 joints on it.
So slow to me.
and bro did, you're going to hear it just and just do this.
And y'all going to go back to the first shit I did.
and it's going to do that again.
I'm not worried about that.
There's new shit about the dog the streets.
I'm just predicting a dog out.
Straight dog in the fuck out.
Top the bottom, dog out, music, singles, videos, the rollout, boom.
As soon as I think it's over, I'm going to come smack out with a million-dollar baby.
Dog, y'all, y'all needs the fuck out there.
Then we got another waveguard album dropping.
Then I'm doing another mixtape, darn snow.
So it's a lot of store
I never stop
I have unlimited
classic wave
because you know what
Max B
he had guard in the streets
in New York
especially Harlem
shout out to my nephew Biddy
and all I see y'all playing
there in night
there's a global interest
in Max B
and so that's what I'm trying to say
is if you put one out the park
It's a different bag.
I thought I'd be telling them every day.
No, you got that hard drive with them joints.
You gotta show me how to do that.
I would tell them.
Listen, you got that.
But listen, when Flojo came out,
I was getting $500 a show.
It was number one in America.
It's crazy.
And I was going to Connecticut,
Boston, Jersey.
The next day is Yonkers.
What year was that?
In your D.C.
That was in 93.
It was no money in the rap.
game with the number one.
Damn, that's crazy.
No money.
The money's out there now, big.
In another way.
They'll paint you in silver
and you'll be on a surfboard
going through Madison Square Garden
on the fucking silver surf on that bitch.
This is a different type of,
them reggae tone niggas.
They hit one and they get in a half a million
in the show. One song.
Yeah.
You know, and I'm trying to figure out friends.
What is it?
Velvet, the pants right there?
Lisa, the boy got
His own money.
Yeah, it's like Newbuck.
I don't think Newbuck.
They're velvet.
Newbock can be too heavy.
I'll tell you about the Bronx.
Yo, the Bronx.
We don't know how to act, French.
You get a bronze purse or someone.
You see how Cardi B.
Be becoming shitting boat taker trenches to the fucking ankle
with the boots to match with the thing.
You give a Bronx dude, some money.
You know, girl, they don't know how to act.
Tell you.
Their boy French coming in here, this shit, looking like fucking.
exotic emiruses and shit.
They just killed the fur.
Fine.
We gotta get that hit, Max.
We get that hip.
Cracking the all about them hits.
I told you, I surrender.
It's funny.
You know, you told me out there I surrender.
And what's crazy is last night,
I was sleeping.
I sleep with the TV on.
Right?
And I turn, and I see literally,
you know, literally it's got to be
millions.
millions of white people
jumping up and down
singing the words
and I look on
I don't know who the fuck
these guys are
it's a rock group
so I look at the shit
I say what the fuck
he was a million people
and they all were singing
going crazy
and then the hook come
and the name of the hook
was I surrender
he's the food fighters
crazy
and it was called I surrender
he told me today
you I surrender
I said yo that might be you
Yeah, yeah.
You got to tap into that.
However that makes you feel.
I just make it one way.
I could never go in there.
What is the process?
That's probably the weakest part of my game to go in there and say, yo, listen to a beat that I don't do.
But you're going there and be some produce.
They'll be like, you do this record right here.
And it'll be a hit record.
I might not like the track, though.
If I can't die with the track, I'm not going to do this shit.
I did it.
I sold out.
I know.
This is why I'm trying to say.
This is why I say I surrender.
I made it.
I made a number one that I can't stand.
The white people love it.
It went number one.
That's the decision we got to be.
You want to sing that same record over and over or you want to?
That's how I was looking at it.
I did it.
I'm ready to sing the record.
We mechanically sold out.
I'm ready to sing a record.
And we said, all right, we need a beat that sounds like this.
We need to get the homie on this hook.
We need to rap like this
And the shit really went number one
Like we cloned the
Like we made a number one
That wasn't from the heart
Like lean back
Yeah
Was a mixtape song
Yeah
That just went number one
Yeah
You know I don't give a fuck about your fault
Some this happened
That went organic
But I made the number one
That I'm disgusted
And I know what you said
Because I just
Every time I hear it
And they want to hear it
The white
You know what you got
It shit
Went number one
I'm not independent when you may lean back?
No, I was independent, make your brain.
So you know what happened to me is a famous story.
So I'm in Atlantic Records, and I'm selling 2 million brackets.
And I'm the big, they had a poster of me, six floors.
I had the orange leather shirt.
I had the lion medallion, and I walk up in there every day, so cocky, put out an album,
and shit flop.
They took off that poster so fast.
And they threw a TI join up.
This is the new guy, TI.
I'm like, yo, this major label shit is disgusting, bro.
Right now, at that time, going independent,
they were giving you $7 a CD.
I sold a half a million.
They called me a failure.
Still a half a million people went to the store and bought that shit.
And I said, you know what?
if I get $7 for a half a million,
I make $3.5 million,
it's more than the $500,000 or the million dollars
they're giving me to do the whole album.
So I go back the next day.
I say, yo, I don't know if y'all know I started out
digging in the crates.
I'm going back to my underground.
We ain't got to worry about me.
You'll never hear from fat.
No again.
I'm never making a hit again.
I'm done.
Make it rain.
Four million records on the masses
with the fucking.
an independent.
The money was coming so much, French.
I'm kicking it safe and closed the shit.
I'd be like throwing my wife just bundles of money.
Like, go spend.
Go shop.
This shit crazy.
I'm like, yo, I can't close the safe.
It was ringtones.
When the ringtone shit first came out,
that shit went four million on them.
That was the next, I know they wanted to commit suicide.
When I left it was making, four million sold.
That's crazy.
Independent.
I've been independent ever since.
We win every time.
You know, these record labels ain't
nothing but a bank.
But they make you believe
a hit won't go without them, though.
It's a lie.
Yeah.
All the way up went.
Yeah.
We just got a new commercial ESPN
10 years later, ESPN,
ABC.
I'm all the way up.
Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.
The story about all the way up is crazy.
Oh, I want to hear the story
about all the way up.
Get that.
Let me hear it.
French is on all the way up.
Yeah, let me hear.
Nah, no, hold on, kiss.
Now, kiss coming back, I'm telling the story.
So I'm just sitting back in the crib.
Crack, him, I don't know it.
Like, yo, come by Cool and Dre's Studio.
I got this joint.
It's out of here.
This is the one.
I go to the studio.
We knock it out.
I'm not thinking none of it.
The shit come out.
Take all.
Boom.
We're doing shows.
Even Drake came in my.
I was telling you, boy, hit me.
Like, yo, I need a verse on that.
Yeah, look, I need a verse on that.
So it was one of them.
One time me and Crack doing a big ass show.
show. That's how I know he was a real one.
I'm like, yo, crack, I never really
told you, but I checked through my lawyer.
He told me I ain't get no publishing on that song.
I had zero
publishing on the song.
I said, yo, crack,
I know you're not running business like that.
He was like, French, what should want me to do?
I said, when I did the song with you,
I was like, my brother got me.
I ain't got to worry about nothing.
Crack was like, you know what?
He called his lawyer right on the spot.
And he was like, you know what, French here?
I forgot what you gave me.
10%.
But the thing is, you.
I think it was five.
It was five.
No, it was 10%.
It was five.
It was five.
That's after the fact, right?
Nah.
You fucking got 10%.
Well, you didn't, you did not.
But you did that, though.
Of course.
You did that, though.
You did that.
Happened to me, and that's after.
The paperwork.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He went back to change it.
When he's moving, this day.
He come and sit next to me.
We had a ward show.
He said next to me.
He said, but you forgot how you told me.
How told you?
You said, yo, crack.
You know what's that million dollar
voice that made that shit dope?
He said, ah!
I look at French.
I said, what?
He was like, yo, I put that million dollar
gloss on that bitch.
I said, all right, let's call a lawyer now.
It's unacceptable.
You know, with me, I don't feel good
if my people don't make money with me.
You knew JR, rest of peace.
J.R.
riders changed my whole life.
It's a billionaire.
I was with every day for five years.
Yeah.
Right?
And he taught me everything about business.
And the biggest thing he taught me is that everybody got to eat.
You go to my stores.
The managers.
The seminars you used to do?
Yes, the seminars, market America.
But J.R.'s a billionaire, a genius.
He made sure everybody made money.
And then he was good.
A record labels that.
It's the same thing.
with Remy came home, you know, it was a struggle.
Me and her.
Me and Rem were struggling, right?
So I sit down in the cross and listen, let me tell you something.
And I know I'm hallucinating guys.
Don't get mad at me in podcast world, but I told her, yo, me and you, we like Dr. Dre and Snoop.
If we hit one out the park, we're out of here.
Just before lean back?
No, there's after lean back.
If lean back was in Instagram era?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, my God, it's a different type of animal.
The old ladies would have been doing it.
Beyond, we'd have been buying Yankee Stadium.
Ooh.
Imagine all the girls on Instagram right now if she was a model for a year and a half.
And if she got it, that shit would go down to her ass.
Man.
TikTok, you're broke.
What?
Y'all knew them joints was the ones.
Every one of them joints.
put out, y'all knew it was the ones?
I knew everything.
Ooh.
For real, though?
It wasn't one that you was like,
I don't know.
The one real thing,
the record label ever taught me,
Craig Kamen, he said,
yo, you're not Beyonce.
He said, you can't put out
two, three songs and kids.
He says, if it hits,
we'll get another video.
We'll get another song.
We'll put the bag behind it.
So he taught me
that I got to get a hit every time.
So I was thinking like a program director.
I used to go to South Carolina
and watch little kids running across the grass and all that
and play those songs there and say,
if these kids can hear this on a Sunday,
this shit out of here.
And that's how we'll pick a hit every single time.
And so I train myself to pick a hit.
That's what you're saying you don't do.
You just go in there naturally do her,
do songs,
it go and go.
You know, I heard a lot of artists say that.
I just treat them like I don't try to make a hit.
That's not what I'm going.
I just go with a good joke.
And if it happened, it happened.
And it would take a nigga, like,
they come in there, like, oh, he'd come in and go through the dog.
That's the one.
That's some shit.
Or here come play some shit all the time.
Like the shit we just did,
shot the video for last night.
We got death on the bitch coming out.
That's, that's,
That's some shit.
You know, shout out Boobie the Boxer.
That's how I'm that.
Yeah, shot the Boobie, yeah.
Pund's cousin.
Yeah.
You and Boobie was super tight.
Crazy.
Pund used to come and play as the albums on 183, right about a basketball court.
I'm old Pundee used to pull up with his bins.
He used to have the custom made seat.
He used to come in and they just put that capital punishment on.
And it was even before capital punishment when he came out.
With the mixtape that y'all dropped before that with the cassette tape.
It was like the six joints on it.
Well, you've been around French.
You know why I say that is because Pund would drive to Miami.
Great.
And play DJ Caled his album or his songs.
He would go all the way to Miami.
He trusted Callard's ear before all of us.
Crazy.
And I played all the way up for Callet.
And Callet sat in the speaker.
And I said, yo, this the one.
He was like, I really don't know.
I said, motherfucker, get the fuck out the studio, nigga.
I'm putting the bag up.
I'm independent.
This shit.
It's don't want.
Just before that, I was fucked up.
I did, like, four months of the Fed,
they took all my money, millions of dollars.
Imagine you looking at your bank for 10, 15 years,
and you cake the fuck up.
And one day you looked and that shit down like this.
They took all my money, penalties, this, this, this,
and I already paid the account in the fucking money.
At least you were still in the game.
Oh, no.
I came home like you in a different way.
There wasn't no people there.
There wasn't no,
football field.
No, none of that shit.
I went right to Cool and Jay's studio
and Jay told me, yo, we're going to work.
And I'm sitting up in there
and they got the little niggas with the pink hair
and the red, it was that turn.
Party like a rock star.
And little pumps and all on.
And they up in there and they're looking at me like,
what the fuck this old nigga doing in this studio?
Yeah.
It was getting one.
And I said, man, like you always do.
Get one.
I think I was talking about your leg too much.
I fucked my leg up.
We now have the Euro step.
Let me tell you something, man.
And super pause.
I'll throw it right now,
but I'm a little light on my ass.
I'm 2.30 right now.
You look good.
I'm 2.30.
Pause.
Let me get 25.
Let me get 25.
I feel magnificent.
I was just watching the interview with you.
Interviewing Big L.
I had it.
Crazy.
Yeah.
About two weeks before I came up,
They had the fullback joint show
and they played got a flojo
you had that big army on
that shit
he had the big surrey
no, my fucking ain't playing
with them like that
you know, I'm trying to stick around.
Oh, Fritz, what's so with Afcombe?
How was that?
What was that like?
I ain't never, I never do nothing that big in Morocco
since I left Morocco
when I was 13.
So it was kind of like of a moment.
You know what I'm saying?
I went there, like, two billion people.
Shit.
Two billion?
Yeah, that's like two billion?
viewers.
Oh, views.
Yeah, yeah.
And there was like 70,000.
Yeah, like 70,000.
That's a billion-wise.
You gave me.
I could move to Morocco and live forever for free.
Or for your strength.
I got on the plane to Roy, what's it called?
What's the airline?
Royal Morocco.
Pilot came out.
You switched French Montana.
I see, that's how you have.
Boy, the motherfuckers flew that bitch so smooth over there.
That shit lands so smooth over there, Morocco.
Man, and they got the man's
I'll let you finish it.
The man go like there, huh?
For hours and shit.
You eating in the restaurant,
he's spending some shit.
Right?
The guy with the, what is that called?
Nah, I never seen that one.
You never see that.
What is that called?
Dizzy.
No, yes.
Dizzy, like, there's a guy
he got the fucking string
on his head with the, like,
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That'd be playing the shit.
No, they go like this for hours.
You be like, oh, is this the dude, dizzy yet?
Yeah.
You eat.
or type of fucking bumble canoosh and all type of shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then keep going like this.
You got, he got a tough job.
Yeah, he got the string.
He keeps saying that junk.
Yeah, it's tradition, yeah.
Oh.
Yeah, about half cut, man.
Yeah, so it was the opening game, Morocco.
Red One had hit me.
He had produced all the music over there.
He was like he had DeVito.
One got that.
Yeah, yeah.
So Red One, he runs, you know, because he's Moroccan.
So the king let him run.
Who thought he was Jamaican?
Nah.
He pretty.
He produced Jamaican songs.
Yeah, he produced Jamaican.
But he's Moroccan.
He did all the Lady Gaga music.
Yeah, so the king grabbed him to do all the music for the Afghans,
for the African Cup.
And he just hit me like a week before the joint.
He'll like, y'all got the biggest single, come hop on it,
come perform.
We want you to perform.
So I went there, the king came to watch it.
It was like a moment.
I took Mom Dukes over there and he was just like, you know,
it was a big moment.
Never been a more famous Moroccan ever, right?
I mean, in a humble way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, now that I think.
I mean, that really, I mean, there is that went Europe, like, different parts of the world.
But as far as, like, the mecca of music, that somebody that came here and did not.
I got to take an old man piss.
Morocco is playing Brazilian, Brazil for the World Cup.
Yeah, that's crazy.
And Jersey.
They probably go for you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got to go.
That's big.
The Morocco was never this big in soccer until, like, the past couple years.
Soccer was never this big.
Yeah.
Like, I think soccer is.
always huge.
They call it football with it.
I think the sports market.
And now it's coming over.
In general.
Broaded.
All of it.
Every sport.
You got a female basketball.
Yeah.
All that shit.
All that shit.
Yeah.
The TV deals, the commercial deals.
I think when Morocco made it to the semifinals in the World Cup,
I think it was a moment where everybody was like, you know what?
Getting on board.
Yeah, yeah, we belong here.
Even, like, the low market teams got, like,
they stadiums be lit.
It is.
It is.
It ain't even sold out.
It ain't like it used to be.
Remember, you used to watch certain teams.
You watch like a Langer game.
You ain't seen nobody either.
That's like there.
That shit is lit.
It's the market for every.
Yeah.
You right about that.
A lot of arenas that were small markets that used to be,
they only show one pack because the people's only,
now of them shit is lit.
They sold you right.
That was like one of the shit.
I used to like see in jail.
When I be watching TV and shit,
I'm like, yo, the world is evolving.
The economy.
The money, the market, you know what I'm saying?
It's, this whole shit is like an internet.
You really could come out here and do what you want.
From the crib.
Like, for real, you really just got to put your foot in some shit and go.
That's some shit, though.
Yeah, but messy, messy coming to Miami.
Morocco and see a soccer game.
Got to.
I call this P.O. for the last game.
I was like, yo, let him come.
Like, nah.
Yeah, I'm working on that.
I'm about to get that passport.
I'll try to get you out there.
I can't wait to get you out there.
Working on some things.
Yeah, work up to summer.
You ain't got to go nowhere.
Morocco.
Morocco playing.
I would like to go to Morocco.
Yeah, you got to.
Whoever the fuck crack called or wherever that city is.
What do you say?
Bangladesh.
That's the last.
Fuck, he starts speaking languages.
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this audience.
We're killing these niggas in the podcast.
They all sick.
Hey, yo, fuck all these things.
I want to smoke with all of you.
I can't really respond to the dirty section,
the AM radio.
Good morning, Vietnam.
We need them niggas over there.
The biggest over there in that AM section.
Bair from TV.
Go dirty yourselves up.
Fuck that.
But that why you do that?
When I heard that why you do that,
I said, Jesus Christ.
This shit incredible.
Thank you.
And the name, Bigger Valley,
could you break down the name?
It may be a weird little concept.
I love it.
So when I first started doing music,
and I knew I could write,
I was like, all right, now you need a name.
I always thought the name is like very significant
when it comes to an artist.
Absolutely.
You need a name that ring
that people are going to love and respect
what type of music you're trying to put out there
so why not
I said how would I sound if I mix
these three niggas together
big jigger
and magabelli
not too pop
Magaveli
that's the late pop
there's a difference
talking about that late pop
in seven day theory pop
them the three niggas that was it
so I came up with
Max Biggervelli
Biggerbelly
It's incredible.
What a name.
Jada, how did you came up with Jada kiss?
Cracker Jackson.
Shhh.
It said Jada kiss?
Nah.
I wanted to ask you that shit.
I'm starting to believe you.
You got me the turkey.
I started to believe him.
He got me the turkey chops.
He got me the turkey chops.
He brought Johnson's fried chicken in here.
I'm starting to believe you.
That's got it.
No, no.
My old, shout out to my man, Rod Lee.
I chilled on the block with older dudes.
Yeah.
And one day, he just came outside.
Somebody must have called them or beeped them or asked him who was on the block.
And he starts saying, he started giving everybody names.
But he said, and that kid Jada kissed me.
I just kept.
Oh, he said it like that.
Yeah.
And I went out there.
Kay, Dade, this, that.
They're kissing me.
I got a nice, man.
We say if I can make it mean.
Yeah.
They do.
French, and what made you, Tony Montana?
Nah, I mean, when I first came from Morocco,
I used to speak French, and I moved to the Bronx.
And they used to have all these Africans on my block on Elzman.
And they always used to be talking to me in French.
Every time I come out, they're like, they go bonjour.
Yeah.
But this is coming bonjourgeal first.
And after that, they start calling me French.
then, you know, after I realized
I couldn't, you know, go to college
or play ball and none of that, I started hustling.
Couldn't get no scholarships and then.
So that's how I got it.
So French was from, that was me in Montana were just hustling.
You know, it was crazy because I thought you was nice and ball, right?
At one time.
Yeah, yeah, it was playing ball.
My knee bad.
This shit.
That is a fried right now.
He don't went to Chuck Takedo's too many time.
That nigga to ran in the city.
I got the Joe crack legs now.
I can't play ball.
no more.
I can't play ball no more.
Yeah, so I'm sitting in my kneecap.
I can't jump like I used to.
I'm done.
I don't know you're done, but you was dead nice
in basketball.
Me, I was always fat Joey.
Yeah, I was born.
I had a bunch of letters, some colleges and everything.
I was trying to figure out, but it was like, nah.
You had good qualities.
I had good qualities.
Yeah, but...
Yeah, it was like, yo, that's fat Joey.
I didn't even call myself Fat Joey.
The old block called me Fat Joey.
You always take the name...
Your people give you.
Yeah, yeah, you can't.
You made your shit, but it's fine.
Usually you don't get to make your nickname.
No, I don't.
And people give it to you in the stick.
Yeah.
You can make, you made you shit.
You shit is glad legend.
Because I was going for something.
I said, too, they just pop.
I had like four other names before that.
They ain't right.
They didn't work.
My first shit was Fettuccini.
Oh.
First, my shit on the hood, Charlie Rambo.
No doubt.
Charlie Rambo, I heard down.
Ali, boom, boom,
Charlie Rambo, Fetticini,
Fed Law shit, Fettigran,
Mr. Big Yard.
Oh, Mr. Big Yard.
It's great.
Mr. Big Yard,
Grand Star, getting a little nice.
So now I was listening to your shit,
I used to dive in y'all,
niggas shit, Paul.
No, no doubt.
But I couldn't,
y'all was so,
I love y'all's niggish.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was looking for mine as you beat me to it.
My back.
Yo, I was so on.
Y'all shit, right?
I didn't want it to rub off into my shit.
Oh, my God.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Oh.
He's guitar.
Nigger fry.
He fried.
I didn't want to see him.
So I had to distinguish my Sam.
So as hurtful as it was, I had to stop listening to my locks.
So down.
That's respect.
So I can get better.
Because, you know what I'm saying?
as I started getting better,
around like 2001,
2000, I came with the name Max, Max B.
But guess what?
I didn't know what the B.
I didn't have no name for the B.
When I came out of 03, 05, 04,
I caught the little violation.
I went back up for 10 months,
and I was writing like a dog,
and that's when the shit came to him.
Nobody had more than area.
Big Al.
Big Al, that's Lamar.
We went to school.
He was the same class.
Lamar, so you knew his brother.
Lee.
Yeah.
You know his brother was not legend to give it up.
He was giving it up.
Legend out there.
Listen, man.
Them 39 boys, they was all terrorizing shit.
And I'm going to keep a real.
When Elle went with rest of peace, that's bro.
When Elle first came through, we didn't appreciate it.
We took his joint.
He was flinging them off the roof.
It didn't take me to like 10 years ago to really understand the significance of Big Al shit
and how nice he was.
He was nasty.
He was super nasty.
But it took me,
it took maturity.
Flamboying.
To go into that.
Blamey.
I don't master my sound.
Now I can go back and listen to now.
I know how nothing
never sound like nobody.
But now I can listen again.
Big old would call me like,
you all got beef on the block.
And we would go over there
in the white van.
Ugly.
And we jump out.
And he'd be,
hold up,
He'd be ready to tear that shit up.
One-on-one.
I'm going to be like, who?
It'd be the biggest dude on the block.
He fight him one-on-one.
I'd be like, you know, Elle, you want to fight this guy?
Like, are you...
No, I know him.
He wasn't a dirty guy, man.
He would fight him one-on-one.
And we got the animals in the van.
Man, he used to fight my brother.
And my brother was a nut.
But Elle wasn't like, you know, he wasn't running around on the way.
No, he's fight.
You know, he never wanted to set nobody up if he knew you like that.
He'd be like, because we're coming.
Yeah.
In the van.
Really fat Joe.
Three fat Joe.
We got taco.
We got this.
He's like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, it's one-on-one.
And it always be the biggest guy in the world.
I'm not going to say he won.
But Elle Fordham, one-on-one.
I was out there when he got killed.
Cam and him was out there, too.
I seen him on the floor.
That was like the saddest shit, man.
But Elle, man, he had so much coming, man.
His future was really, really, really, really bright.
He did whatever, man.
Shout out the hall.
A lot of love now.
Shout out of Massapil.
And his flow never got outdated.
Like, the way he rap back then.
That's crazy, right?
People were just rapping like that now.
I'm trying to tell you, I went back and hanged one of his joints like a few months ago.
And it just gave me a whole different feel.
I was like, damn.
You know, Finesse discovered him.
So Finesse was the hottest rapper in New York.
And it was different from us.
We partying, you're going, Charlie, baby.
Finesse, the crowd standing there waiting for the.
Oh.
Yeah.
Crazy.
Ah!
Like, this grown man, that's all they wait.
And he's going there and freestyle.
They're like, Lord, Phinez is the man that you got to hear.
Flood.
Ooh!
The whole crowd.
Like, every punchline, no.
Every punchline was dramatic.
And when he said, yo, I found this kid from Harvard.
I ain't even know that.
No, no, yes.
That's crazy.
He said, that's how he's digging in the crates.
Yeah.
You know, and man, that man, B.L.
came out in that first song.
That first show was up there, like, Broadway
and, like, over there by Marble Hill.
Big L. spit his fucking ass off.
The whole crowd, they was there for the,
ooh, ah, ah, ah, imagine.
He'd come up in there, the baby finesse at the time.
And he tore that shit down.
He's the only artist.
I ever did a song with this,
that he's gonna rip me down on the song
and take all my fans.
We had DVD, D&D.
Primo due to the beat to the enemy,
just went gold for the first time.
So he sits me down.
He's my little brother.
He says, listen,
I'm here to take all your fans.
That's some Harlem shit, right?
I'm here to take all your fans.
I need it.
So just know, come with your very best right now
because I'm going to go crazy on you on this song.
And that's my favorite rhyme I ever said in my life
because I was on a spot.
You remember that large in the underground,
freestyle dishwrecking that you did?
Oh, yeah, you remember that for Finesse.
They're good guys now, man.
The Lord's of the Underground.
Yo, what hell are.
Yo, is well.
You is well.
Because, you know, they caught beef with Fennest.
Because it was Lord Finesse.
For some reason, the lords of the underground, they try to go at Foness.
And, you know, it's like every, I didn't mind my business.
I was a wild thing.
They were just coming in.
And, damn, man, I hope they don't resurf.
That shit don't resurface.
They're good people.
It is what it is.
Your friends, you had enough battles, huh?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That shit was like, well, right now we're really not into
nothing to the shit we used to be into.
But I think, so y'all was the first one
to really actually start drill rap.
Who?
Because drill rap is basically who's the first emcees
to start beefing, right?
Because they were telling us, that's Kumo D.
Yeah, that's Kumo D.
Kamo D started your busy beat.
Busy beat.
But they say the first gangster rapper was Ice T.
And then KRS was the second one.
We Googled that shit, right?
I don't know who we is.
We Google that shit.
Icy was the first gangster rapper, I think.
The first rapper with a diss song was Icey?
No.
The first thing in terms of all, they were dissing each other.
Every battle.
Every jam had battles.
Cold crush against the romantic.
Them niggas, they've been battling forever,
but the first big battle was Kumo D and Busy B.
Busy B was like a Max B.
Life of the Party ever for an hour.
I don't know if you remember the old school movie,
he spelt his name with the money.
He was Busy B.
Busy B was rocked to party.
Crazy.
And your man, a young Kumo D came up and there
was like that barb to the bar,
take that shit on home.
His shit was like his hit.
His lean back was to the bob to the bob,
the bang to bang.
He said something in and on.
Take that barb to the bar.
I always thought it was MC Shaman.
K.R.S. That started the first hour.
That was after. That's a little bit.
That's a little bit.
They put a picture in Instagram yesterday, KERS 1.
And they said, what comes to mind?
I immediately wrote South Bronx, South, South Bronx.
I looked at the comments and they was like, let me begin.
They were just over.
Then they come and they're like, are you a philosopher?
Yo, there is so many KRS quotes.
I don't think nobody repeated the quotes.
Every song was you must learn.
Yeah.
My main man, Rob.
Now, what the fuck am I?
You remember that love's going to get you.
Love's going to get your love's going to get you.
What he said?
GiaWi.
What he said?
J-A-Wi-Wil.
Fuck school.
Your Love's going to get you.
Gea-Wik.
It finished you right now.
A G-A-W-E-A-W?
Shot the Jamaica.
You was chakin up with a G-A-W-W-B.
Found that was somebody Jamaican who started hip-hop.
That's crazy.
Shout to Jamaica.
Oh, you didn't know that.
No.
Cool hurt.
Yeah.
But I didn't even know he was Jamaican, though.
So shot to Jamaica.
He's a big hand.
That niggies like a fucking giant.
And he's the most solid one of all the founders.
Crazy.
You know, he's a real nigga.
Cool work.
Yo, when the Bronx, when the Bronx looked like Vietnam,
where all the buildings was blown out and burned to it.
That name got the convertible with the fucking speakers in the back.
Driving through the Bronx when the shit looked like Vietnam.
The train still has spray paint on.
Big time before the spike train or something.
That was before graffiti.
That nigga was out there with the convertible shit like a dawn.
Crazy.
You know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You had the caddy, right?
He had the caddy, the big shit he was riding around.
He was driving through the shit.
This is cool, her, the founder of hip.
Yeah.
Well, just to know somebody Jamaican created a hip-hop.
And in Jamaica, they don't even do hip-hop.
It's kind of crazy.
Well, I can tell you something that's crazy, right?
I don't want nobody to kill me at the deli,
but every Sunday I go to the Italian deli
go get the olives,
the turkey, the everything.
So there's a man there that's like the rain man.
He's a customer.
He stands there and he just flogers everybody.
No, the man starts telling me
the rain man. It's a white dude. He's really, really smart.
He got like Asperger's or
autism on a high level with a smart, smart guy.
And then he asked me,
he said, yo man, what instruments you are
I played for hip hop and all that.
And I was like, you know what?
We don't really play the instruments.
We sample.
He said, what do you mean?
Sample?
They got these machines, but they take jazz.
They take rock.
They take Sousa.
They take R&B.
And I realized hip hop come from everywhere.
Yeah.
I never really thought about it until he asked me that question.
Yeah.
It actually is a fucking gumbo.
One million percent.
You sample all the shit together and that's how hip hop come out.
Yeah.
The album would be out already
Turn to the Coke Wave, man
Coke Wave, Narcos
3.5. Let me tell you how we got
a 3.5. Because we were so high
that we skipped part of three.
But you don't get high no more, they said.
That's hard. They were so high, they skipped three.
We skipped three.
So we went straight from two to four.
So he'd come home, I'm like,
yo, we got a problem.
We skipped the whole value.
You got cut back to 3.5.
I got a solution.
We're going to call it 3.5.
That's both.
He said the 3 for the one we missed
and a 0.5 for the one that comes after 4.
So we got 2 back.
You want to know what's crazy.
That's a genius.
You want to know what's crazy,
I can never get the vision out my face.
Pause.
Come on, man.
Come on.
Crack.
You can't get wet.
The vision.
Vision.
I ain't saying nothing, Paul.
On my face of this man with a captain's hat with force, white girls,
just, it looked like he was, what's my man to die the playboy dude?
You?
He was after that night in the club.
Yeah.
I'm looking at him.
I'm like, yo, this thing is.
Yeah.
Be is out of control, bro.
What a life, man.
Now you're married.
You got your wife everywhere with you.
Yeah, she's in the building.
Smart man.
Smart man.
You're out of a lot of trouble, huh?
A nice system implemented.
Can't complain.
Because you got it.
You got your shit together.
And I've watched other interviews.
Nah, you got your shit together, bro.
You ain't with that shit.
You ain't falling for nothing.
Yeah, yeah.
Doing shit.
You got your shit together.
And everybody, if everybody's, even the goons,
I know they've been waiting 17 years.
for you to come home.
Everybody's been waiting for the money to come in,
whatever the case may be.
Everybody's been on max time.
So you got to let them know,
we all got to be in harmony.
And that's one of the toughest things I had to learn since day one.
I'm coming with the animals.
And they beating up my fans.
The ugly ones.
You got a flow, Joe.
Look, they do flow, Joe.
It's number one in America.
They do a concert, my first show.
Lehman College in the Bronx.
I come up with the whole forest projects.
Not half, not two-thirds, black, Spanish.
This was FJ 560 days?
Before that.
This is 9-3.
Right?
You're funny, too.
We used in Patterson Project.
And he told me, yo, you safe from right here.
I said, nigga, I sold my first bag of dope on this fucking.
I swear to God.
This is a little bit of insurance.
I sold my first bag of dope in that park on that bench right there.
No, it was heavy that day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But he told me I'm safe.
I said, all right, friends.
I'm worried, man, you know.
You remember like an elephant.
No, I told him.
I said, yo, I don't smoke.
I don't drink.
I'm focused.
My sugar right?
I'm good.
Yeah, you stopped drinking way before everybody.
Man, listen.
I couldn't even give crack a bottle of Nuvo
while he was making it all the way up.
I'm trying him to drink Nuvo.
I'm like, oh, it was no licking.
his crack. He stopped drinking before. Everybody.
Well, you got me, you got me high.
We shot the video to cooking in the desert.
And I went in your fucking trailer. I don't know if you remember that.
You Zach and y'all was there and you had chocolate chip cookies.
Of course, my fat ass going, I start eating the truck and they all laughing.
I don't know why.
They laughing at me.
I'm tearing up the chocolate chips.
Next thing I know, I'm high.
I don't smoke nothing.
I'm like, yo, what the fuck in the desert?
We had tigers.
in the desert.
I'm so high.
I'm banging on Remy's door.
She's in the trailer next door.
Now, boom, boom, bam, bam.
We got to go.
It's turning dark.
That shit was like 12 noon, my name.
It's turning dark.
Video, as soon as the sun goes down, the video's over.
I was hot.
Then I realized I went back.
I said, she said something wrong with you, Joe.
I said, yo, Ram, stop.
She's like, you're high.
Something.
And I went back, I said, yo, they started dying laughing.
Yeah.
Spike cheek.
She changed the old treatment.
Yeah.
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So this shit,
what's the African joint where the kids
is dancing?
Unforgettable.
How many diamond is that shit now?
Probably like going on 20,
about like 84 around the world.
I wish, man, I wish I walked out the label
and did make a ring, like how you did it with that record.
you would a smith.
I wish I'd have to vote that record.
Yo, French, I think you went,
I think you was off the label, right?
You was leaving the label.
And then you hit that one,
and they came back and said, hold up.
Yeah.
Let's work this out.
Because I paid for that record.
I paid half of that record.
Day when I was in the studio,
just working on the album,
I remember Travis coming in,
we did a joint, a couple people came in.
But Jeremiah came in for like two days.
we stayed up for like two days cooking.
There was a point where Germile was just playing records.
And he played this one joint.
He was already a hook on there.
Yeah, Germile played it.
You gave him that million-dollar voice, huh?
I turned around, looked at him, he looked at me.
I said, pull that joint up.
That was a lay-up.
Yeah, he played it.
How genius was it your idea?
I know you were African,
but it was your idea to go get the kids?
Yeah.
So the kids, I was watching them kids
before I even had the record.
Them kids, I was already watching them.
Because I'm like, man, these kids,
they don't dance like nobody.
I'm like, so I started asking doing my homework.
They were like, they don't watch no TV on that.
So they had to learn all their moves, like, on some, you know,
just as, as they're going.
What part of Africa was that?
It was Uganda.
It was Uganda.
So I was- With Kamala.
So I was trying to.
Kamala, the wrestler.
So I was shy to fly men.
They was like, they can't get no visas, no-N-that.
You got to go there.
It was a 30-hour flight.
And mind you, when I got unforgettable,
the record leaked.
The business wasn't done.
So when Jeremiah gave me the record,
I remember I called up Sway.
I'm like, yo, bro, I want this record.
There was like, they already had the record going on something else.
So imagine, like, you had lean back,
and somebody called you, say, nah, you can't have that record no more.
So I hauled that Sway and I highlight that Mike Wilson.
It was kind of back and forth.
But I think my man, Sal came in and shot to Sal.
Sal came in here was like, bro, I'm going to tell you how you're going to get this record.
Just give him $300,000 for the record.
We pay $5,000 for beats.
We pay $10,000 for beats.
I never paid for a record for $300,000.
I was looking at Sal like he was crazy.
But the record was already out.
So now the record is already out,
and somebody is telling you pay $300,000 for a record.
Nobody in the right state of mine going to be like,
I'm paying $300,000.
Because you still don't know if the record going to go or not.
But the record was already leaked out.
It was already out.
When I went to the label, it said the record is already out.
The label was like, nah, we don't want to invest in this.
So I had to go in my pocket.
And I was like, look, if y'all match me, I get it.
So I put up 150 and shot the Sylvia Rohn.
She put up 150.
But I went to Africa and I shot the video out of my own pocket too.
Crazy.
Yeah.
We shot the video and we had the song and the song was already out.
So we just had to gamble.
It was like a million dollars of gambling.
You know, I caught an L like that one time.
I did the song with, I was so honored to do a song with Kanye West.
He made me book.
Hype Williams.
I paid Hype Williams,
I think maybe $300,000.
I'm independent.
Crazy.
A man come with a flashlight was the light.
You know how they got,
they got more lights in here right now
than the end of it.
He came with a flashlight.
He's like, something new I'm working on.
I say, what?
Oh, man.
You talk about I got body,
like, Billions might have spent
10 grand on that video.
But the video came out phenomenal.
He can't be.
And then your man Kanye never charged me
but he said, yo Joe covered a wardrobe.
He ordered $10,000 tang tops from France and shit.
Like, he killed me on that budget.
Like, I'm like, Kim Kardashian comes through.
It's a movie, right?
But I flew the bag on that.
A couple of hundred thousand radio, video, this, this, that,
and the shit ain't gone.
And I came back and threw another bag on that,
Another 300,000.
I just knew it had to be hit.
Yeah, man.
And it didn't go.
It didn't go.
It was great.
It's a nostalgia piece.
I rocked with Kanye.
This shit looked beautiful.
But I caught a hell on that.
This one I caught a hell on.
Yeah.
I remember Kanye had me meet him in the middle of the desert.
Planes with a shot Khan air.
That was incredible.
Yeah.
That video was incredible.
Getting him and Nas there.
That's when I was like.
That was like us getting French Montana.
No, man.
That's not, it wasn't Moses.
It was, I forgot the name.
But it was like a hip-hop joint.
I never expected it to be a hit.
I've seen that joke.
No, it was incredible.
You're on the graveyard of the planes.
Yes, it was with it shot Khan era.
That was a vibe.
That video right there was legend.
Yeah, shot the I was a real right.
Yeah.
But you had to get them there.
Yeah.
How crazy is that?
Bar, lightning in the bottle.
You go about 300,000.
I'll tell you a story I never said before.
It was crazy when we just talking.
But I never forget we shot John Blaze.
I had the young Jaded kiss for hair.
Paul.
It's all record.
Punt.
The only one that was late was Nas.
And last minute, Steve Stout showed up and was like,
yo, we need 10 grand for him being the video.
This is when Joe Crackers, Don Carter, Gene.
I ain't paying for a peach, nigga.
I'm walking in the supermarket getting free.
I'm like, y'all, I ain't paying for shit.
I'm walking up in there, like, I'm in the supermarket
taking free peaches and shit.
Like, yo, Dawn, don't pay for shit.
Yeah, I was so in my feelings.
Even though I was rich already.
I was like, you know what?
I was like, yo, 10 grand.
He was like, yo, you know, it's not.
I said, no, that's not even a question.
He did the song for free, but I gave them that 10 grand.
That felt like the 300.
Yeah.
Because in some days, I don't think nobody was paying for nobody
to show up or nothing.
that Jade is there.
Who's there?
Rayquan is there.
Mac 10.
Pun is there acting.
No.
Mac 10.
But I learned from that, though.
I saw the weekend pay somebody as big as the weekend one.
I was bugging.
I was like, yeah, why are you paying him?
You're the weekend.
My man Cash was like, when they ask us for something,
smoke day gizzards.
Woo!
He said you're going to smoke their what?
Smoke that gizzard truss.
We got new music to play.
We got new music.
Yo, play that joint
You've been talking about
France that you think is the board
I'm gonna let Max pick one
And I pick one off the tape
Okay
He can play. Oh, Papa Half.
He'll play Papa Half
and I'll play
ever since you left me, John.
Rankie Crocky.
On deck
Don Vel-ha
She popped the half
got a telly show
A bitch bad one
Count Cash is my favorite song
That cool black
But the most of it
I bet them hoes love it
Fly by that plane
Married to tell love
Bring no luck
Might just go ghost
Fucking white bitch got no stumb
Coke boys
They ain't ass in the zone
Proudly with four or five bitches
Trying to show
Years and I be gone
Just a taste
Just a taste
Just a taste
Let's know
Play the other one
Oh no, this is the one
Yo stop it
This the one
This is the one
This the one
No, no, this the one.
I heard you on the studio when y'all played this.
I was like, this shit out of here.
This is the one.
I never even heard one word.
This is the one.
The look.
Number I told you.
This is what.
This is one.
One second.
I already know.
This is the one.
Let's go.
Let's go.
You're ready to shake your asses.
I went in depth on the bitch.
Ever since you left me, more money, more cars, more hoes, more show.
since you left me. More diamonds, more gold, more motion, more holes. I went deaf on a bib.
I went deaf on a bill. All I need is one night. That's my yes, I Fiesta. Drop top G wagons,
we don't do testlers. Don't pay for the bag. I pay semesters. I turn dream girls to my new extras.
Ha, niggas recognized game girls do too. A friend to all is a friend to none. So don't push me,
bitch, because I'll press the button. I win death on a bit. It's solid of him.
I went deaf on a bit.
All I need is one.
You're going to have to spread on it.
All I need is one night.
Dump drip.
Baby want a piece, call me scrum shish.
Baby want to be with me and called me a husband.
She was singing on my mic, Teddy where her husband.
This statue love food, boom, time.
Woo!
I went deaf on a bitch.
All I need is one night.
All I need is one night.
Food.
Trying to get in that other.
It's trying to get you the other back.
No, trying to get you another.
This is a monster.
I supredo.
This will get you to Morocco to see the monkeys.
I'm going to get that person.
You're going to get that person.
I'll get you to see the monkey right there.
He's going to get you to your home monkey.
You're going to get that pass, boy.
I'm going to get that far on him.
That's crazy.
Fuck with that.
That's a heat seat.
This is a couple pieces of taste.
That's a global nuclear monster right.
Listen.
And shout to bro.
The rollout was crazy.
Still rolled.
We still rolling.
Still roll.
We're having a roll.
Yeah.
Big Swiss roll.
From Miami.
The big Swiss roll.
We still rolling.
Yeah.
Rollout's crazy.
You put like three V's four four videos together.
That's the way.
Yeah.
That's the way.
We got kid art.
Shout to Johnny.
Shout to Johnny.
Johnny.
Johnny produced that joint.
He nice.
The Mawa was crazy.
I had that record for like a year.
I just had a talk.
I'm gonna give it.
I'm gonna give it.
Played that shit.
Two seconds.
I heard it.
I saw, no, no.
Yeah.
There's no way Max Vee come home to rap or this shit.
I said, this.
Add, because you, you got so much charisma, so much style.
And, you know, it takes me back to the little clips when you had the long head.
So I knew you was going to do what you had to do to this.
I said, oh, my God.
Now, he made, he made it a point.
I get on that record.
He's like, yo, fuck, and you doing, we got shit going.
on, but look, you got, get on this.
Like, you need this.
Yeah.
That's how he did that.
You shot the video yet?
You shot the video last?
That's the, man, you didn't bring out the pilot hat.
Nah, we was looking at the pilot.
That's the pilot hat, rest of the piece.
The pilot hat?
Yo, that's all by.
I've never, I've seen a lot of things in my life.
Yeah.
That pilot hat, boy.
Yeah, we had the velvet blazers going on.
Y'all was going crazy.
You know, I had about a million hours.
Oh, that's out of you.
That shit on last.
Nice night.
Friends, that's out of you.
Oh, thank you, bro.
Put the bag behind him.
He was not fucking around.
You got, welcome to Royal Airlines.
What's the shit taking you to Morocco?
Yeah.
What's the name of it?
Yeah.
The airline?
We try to go independent and get that bag like you.
Yeah, but what's the, what's the other era Morocco?
Royal Air Morocco.
That Royal Air Morocco.
You said I get it at Maca-Dacres.
Yeah.
You should have brought the little man in the video.
This ain't that?
That ain't this.
That ain't this.
It's cracking kiss, God-devil.
Who ya.
I was hung up.
That also was tough.
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